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Speaker 1: To some degree. I'm starting to really fall into the

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dead Internet theory thing. I'm starting to believe it more

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and more because I feel like most of the time

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I see shit and I'm not overestimating or underestimating people,

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but I am, however, starting to just overly recognize. I'm like, oh,

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that's just a robot talking on that. There's no way

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that that's like and you just click on the profile.

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You're like, yeah, that's the fakest thing I've ever seen

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in my life.

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Speaker 2: Est I know, and I know where you're going with this,

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but I think people have become so conditioned to AI

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that sometimes I see normal people, regular people answering like their.

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Speaker 1: AI that's yeah, that's all you.

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Speaker 2: Want to get a little bit more conspiratorial. I think

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that's a real issue. Like, yes, you're absolutely right, there's

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millions of bots, and I know we talked about bots,

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watching bots, botting bots, but you know, there's a problem

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when there's people now that have been so conditioned by

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the bots around them that their natural reactions are to

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have AI type responses. And I'm seeing that more and more,

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Like it's it's almost refreshing when I know we we

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we were talking about this too. But it's almost refreshing

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when somebody tries to shit talk us and call us

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a bunch of shock jocks, because I'm like, oh, wow,

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there's a term I haven't heard in a long time.

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Speaker 1: I must be a person that Yeah, it's a person

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using some data and ship.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this term from two thousand and two. All right,

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here we go.

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Speaker 1: There's no way on Elon's Internet that that even resonates.

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There's no way that's the that's got to be from

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a hue.

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Speaker 2: That's some real human anger there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's kind of like dystopian. Yeah, in

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a way where you're just like, say something accurate about me. Yeah,

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it's try to hurt my feelings.

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Speaker 2: Yes, spit in my mouth.

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Speaker 1: It's like, would you like a pumpkin pie recipe? I

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knew you were a robot. I knew it.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a robot though. But yeah, that deada

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internet theory. I kind of agree with you on that.

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I know a lot of people believe that too. I

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don't think it's as simple as that. I think that's

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an easy way to just whitewash everything, and unfortunately we

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like to do that as a society. But I think

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it's a lot more complex in the sense of I

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think there's just a lot of people that much much

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like the way that you know, a lot of the

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buzzword corporate speak is now you know, people are now

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doing that in the safety of their own lives. And

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it's not even like it doesn't work. Joe and I

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know we've talked about this probably ten fucking years ago

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at this point, but even Korea has that same thing

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with their social media and their practices and stuff that

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if you answer like a bot, if you answer like, oh,

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how's your day is fantastic? Did you know what I

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had today? I had seven Eleven's new rice cakes, and like,

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you know, it's And then you get points, and the

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government gives you points and you can trade in those

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points for things like actual vacations and stuff. But if

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you're a curmudgeon, if you're bitching about a couple of

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shock jocks on a podcast, they take your points away.

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They start limiting you. Not only no, it starts preventing

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you from going places, like if you try to leave

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your city, if you don't have enough points, they won't

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let you go. You can't leave your city, like so

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you better behave you better be a nice person or else.

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And it's like, I wonder, is that type of infrastructure

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invading the rest of the world at this point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, i'd believe it to some extent that, I mean,

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we're gonna get We're gonna get to a place where

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and maybe not our general you know, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're right. I guess the fantasy is thinking that

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the government's going to reward us with anything but.

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Speaker 1: Well one reward. No, no, no, no. What you're looking for

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is they will strictly punished, not reward. Yeah. Yeah, there'll

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be no there will be no good job, there will

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be no addible way. It'll just be like, wait, what

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did you say about getting beaten to death for no reason?

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You don't like that? Why is it because your flips

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through the buzzwords liberal? Yeah, no, that's that's not it.

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It's not getting I just don't feel like that's a

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good idea. Oh is it because you're flips to gay? Yeah,

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you nailed it. That's where we're at. That's that's wonderful.

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that in spite of all the horrors in the world

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and the potentiality that the Internet is nothing but a

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web of people talking to each other that aren't people

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at all. We did get the return of Baron Gorbin,

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which that I have seen a lot of people wanted

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us to expand on the return of Baron Corbin d

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which I don't know where we I don't even know

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what's what more to say about it. It's like, yeah,

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bad show does bad thing. Uh well, it's where do

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you go with that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's supposedly big Cast is on the radar,

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and supposedly Enzo might be on the radar, and I'd

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like to see them back. I think that yeah, they

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would actually do pretty well right now, especially in a

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company that's in dire need of personalities larger than life

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personalities too. You can't just keep shoveling shit on fucking

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Dominic and Dan Hausen and expecting magic and gold to happen, right,

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you know? But at this point, it's like Baron KORbin,

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at what point? Who who did he suck off to

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get in the good graces of TKO? Yet again, who

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does he have pictures of?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is it is absolutely okay. When you

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mentioned Enzo and Cast, there's an element of what if

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to their story?

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Speaker 2: Sure, right, oh yeah, because it was a stupid reason

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that it all fell apart. It was some phony, fake

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bitch that fucking lied about her situation with Enzo, and

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Enzo handled it poorly. And yes, you pointed it out before,

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and other people had pointed it out that he wasn't

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the nicest guy. He was kind of a problem.

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Speaker 1: He was king, He wasn't well liked anyway, so they

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were just looking for an excuse or a reason.

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Speaker 2: But the same. Yeah, but that smoking gun was stupid.

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That was fucking stupid, and everybody can admit that that

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when you have somebody fake you know, oh he touched

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me inappropriately. Never mind the fact that I sent everybody,

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you know, nudes and pictures of myself saying wow, what

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a score, you know, like it's just ah, it just

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it always bothered me that he got framed for that,

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and literally framed, and the company never pulled back. I

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mean they reported that shit to look like, well was

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it USA today? I was like, they never, they never.

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Speaker 1: Pull it was it was the time too, for sure.

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They weren't gonna fucking play around, And like I said,

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if somebody they didn't like, so they you weren't getting

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the benefit of the doubt when they don't want you

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there to begin with. Yeah, you know, if if that

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had been you know, our Lord and Savior Seth Rollins

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or Roman Reigns or any of these wonderful guys that

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they just will bow down to endlessly, there would have

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been a complete investigation.

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Speaker 2: Seth Rollins fucked a Nazi and had his dick all

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over Twitter, and they still gave him a push to

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the moon, right, Seth. Seth Rollins can't do anything wrong

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at this point. That that guy is with the company

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forever and ever and ever, and this is just just

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what we're gonna have to deal with. He is the

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Hulk Hogan, the brother brother of twenty twenty six. And

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you would think I would side with more of a

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Roman vibe, but the Samoans have always been a thing

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in wrestling, so I can't even really put that on Roman.

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If Roman happened to be a white dude from Alabama,

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nobody would give a ship give a shit.

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Speaker 1: If his name was Yeah, if he was a Ricky

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uh Batuburg, no one would care like that.

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Speaker 2: I would fag Dear Lord, that's across in the streams there, sir.

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Speaker 1: He's like, well, I really appreciate if you acknowledged me.

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Speaker 2: Uh and wrestling, you're never getting rid of him, Joe, like,

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put you ones.

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Speaker 1: In the air, do it? I mean, and I could

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go right with that rant. No, dude, it's it's it

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is fucking still hilarious to me, though. Where the Baron Corbyn?

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Speaker 2: Where are you.

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Speaker 1: Guys gonna go with that? They they look at him

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and they're treating him like they do their favorites, And

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then I'm still almost kind of surprised they even let

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him go to begin with, because clearly he's got some

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sort of in and they think to themselves, well, you know,

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we'll put him back on TV and see how he

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does and if he if he doesn't catch fire, he won't,

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he won't.

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Speaker 2: How much I mean, well, you heard about Sammy talking

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about that they wanted to give him a sixty percent

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pay cut. Yeah, and I would assume that he took

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it right, like he took this sixty percent pay cut.

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How much do you think Baron Krbin is working for?

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Even Like I wouldn't be surprised if he's working for

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like twenty or forty one thousand a year.

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Speaker 1: No, I maybe not that, but probably think.

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Speaker 2: He would be Why wouldn't Maybe you would take somebody

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that has some name value but is completely worthless. I mean,

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who's got who over a barrel? Here? Baron Corbin needs

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relevancy and he wasn't getting it on Busted Open Radio.

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People were not tuning in to listen to Bubba, Tommy

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and Mark talk with Baron KORbin, Like it's just not happening,

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Like there's nothing about this guy. He wasn't welcome or

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wanted in aw this guy has no home, Like the

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homeless Baron Corburn gimmick is no longer a fucking gimmick.

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If this guy showed up with a stained yellow T

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shirt and a meth addiction, I would not fucking doubt it.

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I'd be like, oh my god, he's shooting brother, Like

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it's just this guy can only be signed to McDonald's pay.

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Speaker 1: Is that the only well he's He's also like, it's

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funny when we were talking about Jungle Boy the other

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day where it's like, who's chasing down Jungle Boy? Only

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Tony Kahan? All right, who's chasing down Baron Corbin?

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Speaker 2: Do you think he just gave him his Lamborghini or whatever.

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It was his lambeau.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, showed him his extensive watch collection and all that shit, which,

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by the way, like I still laugh because people will

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say like, oh, he's doing that just to be a

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be a heel and try to get heat or whatever,

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and I'm like, well, I don't know if anybody put

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this together, but whether people have said it out loud

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or just kind of kept it to themselves, that doesn't

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rub people the right way.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not even that. I always thought it was

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silly when people said that because at the time he

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wasn't working at gimmick, that his money mattered at all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah he was. He was a biker guy

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at that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. This was this was before the homeless gimmick and shit,

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when he was out there telling everybody had showing off

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his lambeau and his little heavy metal shit. He had

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nothing to do with money. There was no money on

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the table. That was not a part of his gimmick.

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That wouldn't have sold anything. Like, it's one thing if

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you know he was doing that when he was homeless

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Baron Corba and somebody gave him a shit and he's like,

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look at my lambeau, you know, and be like, all right,

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well you're just being a cunt because you're blowing up

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your own fucking thing. But this wasn't then, so it

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was always stupid when people say, oh, he's just working

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a gimmick. No he's not. He's using the fact that

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he's a wrestler to cover it up. But he's just

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being a bitch.

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Speaker 1: And there's and the course, there's always some thing too,

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and it's completely created by the Internet and you know,

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influencers and that whole culture and shit, where now you're

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starting to see the actual death of that. The person

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that's just look at me on my vacation because I

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have money, because I have it, like that that's going

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away because at this point people just don't They don't

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go yeah, yeah, right, they don't go, oh, wouldn't that

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be nice. They actually look at it and they're just like, hey,

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you know what, fuck off, yeah, fuck all the way

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off with this weird bragging bullshit, you know, like buy

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this two hundred and fifty dollars lip gloss. It's like, well, dude,

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shit's bad. Why why am I am? I supposed to

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be watching this for pleasure? It's making me feel like

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complete fucking trash. But that's it is, like, what was

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his whole deal at that time other than look, I'm

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doing this piss I'm pissing off the internet. Which this

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is the thing I think that those guys and to

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some extent the girls, but more so the guys don't

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get is it's the people you don't see. It's the

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reactions you don't get. The people that you do get

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that are like fuck you, you you're a bomb, or

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you sucked baron, or you know you're no good. Yeah, sure,

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that's great, But what about the people that just see

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that and go, yeah, no, that guy sucks and I'm

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just never gonna fucking give him money, your attention ever again,

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just because it's gross.

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as far as the company goes. I think he's working

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for such a pittance that maybe maybe there's there's some

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kind of silver lining to hiring Baron KORbin. Maybe making

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Baron KORbin some kind of a whipping boy for guys

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like Dan Hausen or a whipping boy for Joe Hendry

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is good enough for them to hire them or hire

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him for like twenty grand a year. Yeah, Like I just.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably still they're probably given some of

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these people whatever one hundred grand, eighty grand, which still

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is like it's not bad money, you're obviously surviving, but

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coming off of ten years at getting paid, I.

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Speaker 2: Hope they don't. I hope they're not paying them that

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much because then they're just wasting money. At that point,

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it would be it's counterproductive to me to even pay

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Baron Kortman a hundred thousand a year when you know

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he's not going to even bring in one hundred thousand

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a year. No good, no right, And that's what I'm saying.

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But you could sit there and maybe give Sammy Zain

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five more points on his fucking paycheck for doing a

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good job, you know.

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Speaker 1: His social credit scores that what you say.

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Speaker 2: I'm just it's just it's such a silly way that

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they're conducting business. And I understand that they're trying to

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to cattle in everybody and make Roman happy and Seth

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happy and Brock happy and shit, but like, at what

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point are you really hurting your future by making sure

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that everybody else is in the is in the red.

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Speaker 1: Ye they're selling they're selling this thing off for parts. Dude,

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let's be real like that that is what is going on.

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old plane or whatever. It's like, would you be surprised

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if they're not getting a new one? If they're just like, yeah,

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we're just any anything that we perceive as an asset

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that we will not pay to use and we don't

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want anymore. Yeah, fucking peace out. You can just go

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because WWE or t k O or whatever this version

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is nobody's looking at this anymore that has like a

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real sense that thinks that this is, you know, this

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is for life, this is the long run. So now

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they're gonna they're stripping this thing for parts and they're

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gonna sell it to probably the Saudi's or whomever the

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fuck else. They'll move it on to the next fucking group.

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Speaker 2: But you know, one of the funny things too, is

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I saw this kind of response going everywhere that I

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guess a lot of people took, you know, some of

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our comments when we were talking about WWE that we

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feel like WW is failing, and I don't I think

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the remarks, or at least the responses were they were

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implying that we thought that WWE was failing financially, and

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it's I thought we were very clear that we understand

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that WWE is making more money now than ever before,

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and they've discovered new ways to make the machine work.

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And if it wasn't for Nick Kahn and the greed

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of TKO, WWE would have never seen the amount of

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fucking profits they have from such a poor, poorly rated product.

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So I found it so weird that there was a

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lot of pushback on us for that, and I'm thinking,

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I'm like, I don't think at any point did Joe

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or I even imply that WWE was running out financially

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not enjoying the storylines. Yeah, sure, that's subjective. You know

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what if you're a big seth Rollins or a Roman

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Reigns fan, I mean, this is your Christmas enjoy. But

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for the rest of.

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Speaker 1: Us, it's the Christmas that never end.

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Speaker 2: It's a groundhog day of Christmas. But I mean, for

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the rest of us, it's just tired. It's not even

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tired and true, it's just tired. And it's SAME's the

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old z you know, and it's it feels uninspired. And

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the joke is is that it's ai. But there's reasons

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that people keep saying this is there's just no passion

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behind any of these feuds. Everything feels like it's just

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thrown on paper and just given to the wolves. And

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I mean even characters and talents that I really enjoy

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feel hollow, feel empty. And don't get me wrong, I

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understand it's summer, and summer's when WWE likes to try

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new things. But Jesus Christ, they gave Sammy's a and

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a fucking Kleenex title run like, I mean, he blew

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his nose and it was over. They're not even willing

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to try and take the gamble on what they're gambling for, right,

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So WWE went out of their way, Joe, and they

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gave fucking Sammy a title, and they wouldn't even play

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with him, holding on to it for a minute, wouldn't

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even let him go to the next fucking poe And

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it's just we why not? Why not play with it?

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See what the fans do? Yeah, the fans and the

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immediately were in a different reaction, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know so well. This is also why it makes me laugh,

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because it's like, oh, Sammy's ain't got the ballots and

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then he lost it immediately and then within that same

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exact news cycle. I guess you could say it's people saying, well,

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I guess bron Breaker is really upset with the way

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that he's being treated, and bron Breaker is not, and

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it's like, bron Breaker probably needs to shut the fuck

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up because they gave him a bunch of chances and

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he kept getting hurt. Yeah, and he's not that good.

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And everybody that he got in the ring with, I'm

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sure was very tentatively honest with the brass that this

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guy wasn't ready, and you know, well, well, I guess

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I'm just not gonna get pushed immediately.

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Speaker 2: He got more than Crossted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, shit right, you know, like, yeah, he's got

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he got. He got perceived in a way and was

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presented in a way that ninety eight percent of the

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roster didn't get immediately.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean, let's be honest. The pedigree and

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the look alone is enough to make you pay attention

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to a guy like bron Breaker. He does, he has it.

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He has the look. I really think so. I think

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when you look at bron Breaker, you see a fucking wrestler.

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It's just everything else from there is pretty shallow. He

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doesn't have his uncle or his dad's fucking charisma. For

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what it's worth, he doesn't have that allure for people.

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Even his innring ability is still somewhat limited. At times,

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he makes mistakes when he probably shouldn't. He's I don't

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I don't think he's dangerous. You would be a better

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person to saying more.

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Speaker 1: Of a danger to himself.

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Speaker 2: Right, anything? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know that's honest to God. Like when you watch

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anything and he's a former football player, you know, when

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you watch anything about the pro athletes and whatever, it

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might be, a fighter, whoever, they'll stop fights, they'll pull

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guys off the field, they'll pull them off courts. Why

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because their instinct is I can do it. I'm good,

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I'm fine, I'll be good. And then they end up

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fucking themselves because they want to compete, they want to

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be out there. They will I can do it, I

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can show you. And in the case of some guy

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like bron Breaker, it's like, yeah, you're not, You're not ready.

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You're just simply not. And I remember even before the

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kid debuted, and I hate to be uh, you know,

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I told you you, but I remember seeing him and

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I'm like, this dude is not ready for this, he's

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still green, he still lives around, fucking weird.

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Speaker 2: Well, you were. You were definitely kind of hard on

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bron Breaker and not no, not in an unfair way,

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but yeah, you were a hard on brown Breaker from

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almost the beginning. You didn't even think he was ready

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for the title in an NXT when he was getting it,

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and no, And I mean I remember myself, I remember

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Kevin others that were really fucking, you know, really high

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on the kid. And I think a lot of that was,

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you know, the nostalgia of Daddy, the nostalgia of the

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uncle obviously, the Steiners and stuff, and wanting to see

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that kind of old school sentimentality return to w W, because, honestly, Joe,

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that's one thing that we don't have right now in

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WWE is somebody that represents a little bit of that eighties,

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early nineties stuff. We don't. We got so many squid

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kids out there fucking pretending to be athletes that it's

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just I don't know, I'm I'm kind of missing the

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days of big, fucking, bulky, brawny men that are jacked

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up and literally got shit shooting out of the.

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Speaker 1: Difference look different than the guys that just hang around

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at the fucking Planet Fitness motherfuckers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm tired of the noodle arm motherfuckers. It's just

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and I know I was just praising Sammy, but you know,

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if I had to pick of all the noodle arm motherfuckers,

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and Sammy's probably at the top.

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Speaker 1: He has earned his space in that fucking fobe with

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that fabo, you know what I mean. He has earned

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the noodle time, like for sure. But that's it. Man

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is like a guy like him. Yes, everybody wanted to

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see him succeed. But that's where the part of it

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comes in where it's like it's the coach mentality, it's

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the teacher mentality or whatever you want to call it, right,

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and people think it's like a foo food you know,

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fluffy kind of pussy word where you're like, what is

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equitable to this person? And it's like, okay, well, what

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is the expectation of them? What is the ceiling of them?

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If I'm picking somebody to be a low card comedy

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character on my show that sells T shirts, then yeah,

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Dan Housen doesn't gotta go fucking rip. You know, four

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hundred pound deadlifts in the gym. I don't need Dan

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Housen to be jacked.

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Speaker 2: I need looks like fucking Peter Steel nineteen ninety four,

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Right yeah.

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Speaker 1: Coming out swaying that thing. I'm so sad. It's like,

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all right, we got it putting away, we got significant

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other seeing that cool.

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Speaker 2: If he came out like Peter still, dude, I'd be

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his biggest fan. I'd be like fucking Dan House a

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dude down since day one.

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Speaker 1: I know, he just turns, takes a turn for like

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the sad yea and somehow he gets limb lengthening surgery

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and just comes.

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Speaker 3: Out, comes out in the trench coade black black, black

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number one, and then.

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Speaker 1: And then of course they just go there's just people

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and yeah, and then he strinkles in the ah.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, real deepos.

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Speaker 4: To just.

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Speaker 1: It's in him.

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Speaker 2: We just know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's that's it, right, Like it's that's the

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equitable thing is where you look at the people and

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you go, I am expecting different things from you because

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this is unfair to you, because that's never going to happen. Right,

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Like Tozawa, I can't look at Chozawa and go, come on, Jozawa,

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what the fuck I expect you to become the big yeah.

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Speaker 2: World champions Like if you're that level of fan, man,

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good on you. You know what, there has to be

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a Tazawa fan that thinks one day he's gonna win

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the world championship. There has to be won, right, just.

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Speaker 1: Just I think it's I think it's his grandma. However,

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you say grandma in Japanese? No, no, no, no, no, yeah,

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it's Wait, is that in Japanese? That's Italian?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, I think that's Italians and Japanese people don't have nonas.

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Speaker 2: It's that Mexican language.

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Speaker 1: Well that's but that's it is, Like, that's what's fair. Right,

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I'm going to grade people on a very different curve

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depending on what the trajectory is allegedly of them and

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their potentiality and where they should go. Like, what do

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you expect out of a seventh round draft pick? Hell

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of a lot different than the first guy in the draft,

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you know, like you got it. Fair is fair? You know,

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mister irrelevant and the number one draft pick. Different set

467
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:31,240
of expectations and hopes and goals for the next couple

468
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,839
of seasons.

469
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: Here's the thing too, that kind of popped up and

470
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,880
I don't know if you had a chance to see it.

471
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,319
But Gangrell was talking about it. He was talking about

472
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,200
the changes in wrestling, and I mean, I know, we

473
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,720
were just talking about I guess the sentimentality of the

474
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,640
older generation of wrestlers that we really don't have anymore.

475
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,920
But he was on CVV like everybody else's and he said,

476
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,799
there's no meaningful moves anymore. Meaningful moves made memories. Memories

477
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,480
made money, So there's no meaningful moves anymore. I believe that,

478
00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:02,720
and I lived by that. Meaningful moves make memories, and

479
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:07,039
memories make money. They're doing wrestling. They're just coming out

480
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:09,680
and doing a lot of wrestling moves, high flying, a

481
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,359
lot of cool stuff. But they're not working into those moves. Now,

482
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,720
give me a story and why you're building up to this,

483
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:19,279
Why this move is so deadly and so important because

484
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:23,440
anybody's kicking, everybody's kicking out of everybody's finishes. Now, you

485
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,599
wouldn't have gotten You wouldn't have got that forty years ago,

486
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,920
or twenty years ago, or maybe even fifteen years ago.

487
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:31,680
The finishes were a lot more protected. Even in the

488
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,839
Attitude era. It was the Wild West, and they were

489
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,599
gun slingers and they kicked out on everything, but it's

490
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:39,119
still kind of protected finishes and stuff like that, So

491
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,440
I think it's just more acrobatic smaller guys. I have

492
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,160
nothing against that because now I'm a big guy. I

493
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,359
was never a big guy when I started in eighty seven.

494
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,759
They told me you'll be lucky to be a junior

495
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,960
heavyweight at that because everybody was like three h five

496
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,160
six seven, And here I am coming in at two thirty,

497
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,799
thinking I'm going to make a difference at six two.

498
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,160
But now I feel like a giant. But I feel

499
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,079
like with wrestling everything has cycles too, so I feel

500
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,359
like they're cycling around to bigger guys and some body

501
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,680
stuff and healthy ways. I mean, that would be wonderful

502
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:14,079
if we're at the lowest point of wrestling right now,

503
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,319
because it is all noodlelarm guys and wrestling fans are

504
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,799
tuning out and the only way that they're going to

505
00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,079
tune back in is if they start seeing some beefcakes,

506
00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:24,519
some fun, some dudes.

507
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: That actually look like yeah that they're supposed to be performers.

508
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,720
They're supposed to be larger than have.

509
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: That mentality, right, Like, I think that's why guys like

510
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,119
Brock still gets so much attention. That's why guys like

511
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,480
bron Breaker gets so much attention. I think there's a

512
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,079
reason for that, right, Like, don't get me wrong, for

513
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,400
the newer kids, you know, I guess Austin theory and

514
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,160
Logan Paul are are really changing the world right now.

515
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,079
But on the other side of things, it seems like

516
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,960
when it comes to believability, who are you going to

517
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,640
believe the guy that looks like, you know, he has

518
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,200
problems opening up his lunch, or the guy that looks

519
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,960
like he's fucking tearing doors off of the hingines. You know,

520
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:04,440
it's just.

521
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: And the the funny thing is this is it always

522
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,000
goes back to your prime examples of people that don't

523
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:15,000
look like that, Oh is it a Mick Foley, or

524
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:16,480
it's this one or that one.

525
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,599
Speaker 2: Like you could scrap though we saw that mother.

526
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:23,079
Speaker 1: He was still a big gun. Well even if even.

527
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: If you didn't believe he was gonna beat everybody's ass,

528
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:27,920
watching him fall on his head for five years on

529
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:32,079
concrete fucking kind of brought up the believability factor that hey,

530
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,680
you know what, maybe you can't throw a punch, but

531
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,400
he can sure take one, you know.

532
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,839
Speaker 1: Right right he's gonna get back up and keep going.

533
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,400
He's gonna tire you out with his Yeah, but that's

534
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,759
that's one of the most exhausting things to watch with people.

535
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,200
Well this is the example of this person or that person,

536
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,480
and you go, yes, but they were so exceptional in

537
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,680
so many other ways, right, But it didn't need to

538
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:03,920
be that, Like, dude, remove remove the aesthetic from Roman Reigns,

539
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:08,839
remove the look, remove the fact that he looks like

540
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,440
fucking Aquaman. And I know that's a trope, but whatever,

541
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,559
that's who. He fucking looks like, long hair, the pretty

542
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:21,000
boy face, the scary, giant fucking toilet. But smile now,

543
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Like you take that all away, and you got yourself

544
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,720
a pretty dull, average looking guy. If he looked like

545
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:32,359
all those people that you mentioned about, well, this guy

546
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,920
didn't look great, but he got over. If he had

547
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,279
his personality with that look, none of this happens, none

548
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:40,400
of that goes down.

549
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,799
Speaker 2: If so, it's like if Roman Reigns didn't look like

550
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,640
Roman Reigns but looked like Baron Corbin, what's the difference.

551
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: No, you're not you're not wrong, You're not wrong. And

552
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,759
maybe that's it. Maybe there's just some part of people

553
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,359
backstage where it's like, if Roman Reigns gets to be

554
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,680
christ On la Cross, then why are we giving Baron

555
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:08,559
KORbin ship? Why are we so angry at him? Well,

556
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:12,519
he what because he's bald and looks fucking weird and ship,

557
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,799
Well maybe we should treat him this way.

558
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,119
Speaker 2: It's like, no, no giving somebody else more time. When

559
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,759
they wasted it, They wasted it for years, they wasted resources.

560
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,799
They fucking put people out to pasture in the middle

561
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,799
of their fucking career. Jesus Christ, they brought JVL back

562
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:30,599
from the dead and put him back in a coffin

563
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,680
by the time JBL was or by the time fucking

564
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,799
Corbin was gone.

565
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Like, it's just he retired Kurt Angle. I mean, this

566
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,319
is right, and it did, and it did nhhing nothing

567
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,480
for him, nothing for him because there's nothing there.

568
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I just wish fucking Kurt Angle would come

569
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,400
back and wrestle Gunther.

570
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,319
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's That's another thing. Like when people are

571
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:58,559
talking about the dark side of the Ring Ship and

572
00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:02,039
the Revision, you know there there's a lot of Revision's history, obviously,

573
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,680
but they're just trying to tell one guy's story. So

574
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,720
there they are. But if you took all those years

575
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:11,480
of perk angle out of it, and I know he

576
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:13,960
hates the term, but whatever, dude, you know, if you

577
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,559
take all those years out of it, maybe his body

578
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,039
isn't as fucking destroyed as it is now. I'm not

579
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:24,279
saying it's good. I'm not saying that like, oh, he

580
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:27,359
would have been right, it's rain. But you look at

581
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:29,039
it and you go, well, if you took out a

582
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:33,680
lot of those wasteful, stupid, fucking matches that he had

583
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,359
in TNA, that didn't mean anything. And I'm not talking

584
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,519
about the ones that did. I'm not talking about the

585
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:41,359
ones where he tried to do the right thing and

586
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:44,960
help guys get over you know, your ajs and Samoa

587
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,599
Joe's and you know even a guy like Abyss. You know,

588
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,880
like he tried to do that for these people.

589
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,279
Speaker 2: There's a point though, when they were talking about Kurt

590
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:56,160
Angle too, that they made it sound like he was

591
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,400
selfless to a fault, and like, understand what you're saying that, Hey,

592
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,480
you know you have to have these matches with these

593
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,119
younger guys to help him out. But I mean, what

594
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,440
was it, Jeff Jarrett, like literally saying the guy was

595
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,039
crawling to the fucking back after the match as a

596
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,799
belt would ring, he just pop right back up. I'm like, no, man,

597
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:17,039
that's when you step in there and go, dude, just

598
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,599
it's fine. Well, well you could take a fucking month

599
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,240
off or something, because at that point he was still

600
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:26,799
running underneath Vince McMahon's gauge. Vince McMahon probably loved that

601
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:29,160
about Kurt Angle. I don't think I've ever heard Vince

602
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,759
talk about Kurt Angle, but I would assume that a

603
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:37,119
guy that just fucking Pavlonian responses to wrestling ring bells,

604
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,440
you know, like that, that probably excited Vince McMahon, even

605
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,680
though it was killing Kurt Angle. I mean, by the

606
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:46,839
time he was in WWEE c W, he looked like

607
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,079
he was in trouble. Like just to the common public,

608
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,000
Kurt Angle looked like he was in trouble. He was

609
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,160
bigger than ever, he looked fucking psychotic, and he never

610
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,079
looked like he was even home. It was just it

611
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,519
was danger. You go back the two thousand and six,

612
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,519
you go back to that time too, and this wasn't

613
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:07,440
that far removed from all the horrible shit that was

614
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640
going on you know, elsewhere in the company. It's just

615
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:14,799
I don't know, man, I think TNA they didn't do

616
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,759
right by Kurt Angle. They didn't control them. And I

617
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:20,839
remember the whole letter thing when Kurt Angle went over

618
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,279
there about you know, about being fired and stuff, and

619
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,440
I don't know, man, I there was a lot of

620
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,839
revisionist history and not in the ways that I was expecting.

621
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,799
I did get a chance to watch part three, though,

622
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:31,119
did you.

623
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:36,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I watched it. I mean it's it's exactly

624
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,079
what I thought it would be. As far as it's

625
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,319
damn saying it was the they shouldn't have bothered even

626
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:45,720
mentioning it and saying this is about TNA. They should

627
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000
have gone with it's about Jeff Jarrett. And I know

628
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:51,799
in their mind they were probably thinking, Hey, should we

629
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,799
really put out into the ether. We've made a three

630
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:59,519
hour long documentary on Jeff Jarrett. I'm guessing that somebody

631
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,559
advice said, nah, we got to make this a little

632
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:05,000
bit more broad, you know, like we can't just say

633
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:10,000
it's about this one guy who was you know, just

634
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,360
just being honest, not exactly. He's not stone cold Steve Auston.

635
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:15,960
You know this isn't the rock, so we're not going

636
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,400
to give him a three part fucking series on it.

637
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,000
So let's just say it's about TNA. But realistically, that's

638
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:26,920
all it was. It was the It was the story

639
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,599
of Jeff Jarrett and how his fucking shortcomings and his

640
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,000
issues and everything that happened with TNA. And obviously Dixie

641
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,800
is the main villain in this whole thing where me

642
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,800
and you have now said this multiple times, but I.

643
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: Really think bullshit. Honestly, it's weird. It's weird that I'll

644
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,800
say that. I'm not trying to be a fucking I'm

645
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,639
not trying to be contrarian, But I don't think Dixie

646
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,719
was the main problem. I mean, in a lot of ways. Obviously,

647
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,239
like you know, Jim Cornett and other people kind of

648
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,880
alluded to that she was easily sway by the boys.

649
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,519
Supposely she was having a lot of sex with a

650
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:05,920
lot of the wrestlers, which I wouldn't doubt that either

651
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,320
the fact that she was a civilian in a world

652
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,679
full of carnies didn't help her. But I think I

653
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,280
think honestly letting Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff run TNA

654
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,239
was truly the death of TNA because even before that,

655
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,079
even before that, Dixie Carter was a part of TNA.

656
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,159
She was working with Jeff Jarrett, she was working with

657
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Dutch and Jim and Russo and everybody else, and all

658
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,880
of those different personalities had the same goal. They were

659
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,320
still using the six sided ring. They were still pushing

660
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,079
people like that. The events were fun and exciting for

661
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:41,679
better or worse. Whether you like the angles individually or not,

662
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800
you enjoyed two thousand and two more than you enjoyed

663
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,320
two thousand and six, whatever the fuck may have you.

664
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,800
The reality was is when Hulk Hogan and Bischoff stepped

665
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,840
in there and Hulk Hogan's like, fuck the six sided ring.

666
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:57,559
We're going back to real wrestling, the fore side of

667
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,400
the ring, and the fans are like, fuck that six

668
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,320
side six. I had six sides, and Hogan laughed at

669
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,360
all of them like we were all the assholes. That

670
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:08,360
was the death of it right there. And I mean, yeah,

671
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,880
of course there was good angles and good storylines and

672
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,119
good matches that have happened since then, but they did

673
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,599
they lost an identity, They lost something that made them unique.

674
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,400
And I understand that we've heard this thousand times before too,

675
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,119
that the six headed ring was a real pain the

676
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,559
ass to wrestle in. There were a lot of issues

677
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:29,639
and stuff. I don't fucking know, but but those World

678
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,519
X matches looked really good, huh. Those those cage matches

679
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:37,000
looked really good. Like that was always the thing was.

680
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,519
I think even Eric Bischoff said it, and the thing

681
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:41,679
was nobody ever had a good match and a six

682
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:45,440
sided ring. It's like, did you even watch any TNA

683
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,599
up until then?

684
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,679
Speaker 1: Like any he did it, he did it. He had

685
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,440
no interest in it. And I think that was a

686
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:55,039
huge part of it too, where they got into the

687
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,599
And you're right as far as passing Dixie is the villain,

688
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,639
I feel like it's the easy thing to do because

689
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
you're still watching something made by wrestling fans, and no

690
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:08,320
matter how badly they're gonna make wrestlers look like shit

691
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,760
throughout the course of the show, they're still not going

692
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,119
to put the blame on the specific wrestlers because someday

693
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:17,559
they might want him to sit down and do an

694
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:23,519
interview with the Well yeah, true, yeah, And they're also

695
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:25,559
afraid And by the way, some of these people are

696
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,400
also afraid to shop on ho Cogan and you know,

697
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,320
you and I have seen this on a much smaller

698
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,480
level obviously, but like we've shopped on Ho Cogan before,

699
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,480
and you get the fucking idiot chuds that are just like, well,

700
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,679
maybe that's just because you don't like co cokeer. It's like, no,

701
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,159
he was a fucking notoriously shitty person, right, just just

702
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,639
because at the end of his life he fucking became

703
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,119
your your best friend's best friend that you're like, oh, no,

704
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:56,320
he's a good No, he's actually the coolest, nicest, smartest

705
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,119
guy in the world. He's like, No, he was a rotten,

706
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:06,880
fucking cunt. People hated him for decades forreezon. Right, there's

707
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,800
to me, there's this exhausting fucking thing. I don't know

708
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,159
what the right word wouldould be. It's just if people

709
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,800
say things enough and they're not true. Yes, that happens,

710
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,239
that happens in history. This is a bad person, and

711
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,599
they look more into it and you go, okay, well

712
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,760
were they the worst? No, not really, But there's something

713
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:37,000
to a living human being in modern history where everybody's saying,

714
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,960
well not everybody, but most of everybody's saying every interaction

715
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:45,519
I had with this person was transactional, their habitual liar,

716
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,880
and they sure come off like a real complete piece

717
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,480
of dog shit on every level. And we have a

718
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,519
lot of proof of them being a piece of dog shit.

719
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,679
I get. I get that. Like the vice signaling part

720
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,440
of people is to go, well, what if they're all wrong?

721
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,239
Did you ever think of that? Hell, maybe he's actually

722
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,760
a good guy, but there's this mountain of it.

723
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,159
Speaker 2: Would be more people defending him. That's the way I

724
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,320
look at it too, you know, like, yeah, you're right,

725
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,159
maybe there's a hit piece on a guy like Hulk

726
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:21,519
Hogan and maybe a lot of the uh, maybe a

727
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:24,440
lot of the hate comes from jealousy. We've seen jealousy

728
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:28,159
ruined relationships and paint a bad light. But if that

729
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,000
was the case, if that was truly the case, wouldn't

730
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,400
there be more people defending him, wouldn't there be more

731
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,559
people calling it out?

732
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: So you got you gotta think some of these people,

733
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,039
some of the older wrestlers that shit on him, that

734
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,000
continued to live and have a life like it's it's

735
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:50,159
it's so dark to say it that way. But not

736
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,280
people that were you know, drug addicts or alcoholics or

737
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,000
had serious health issues that died in their forties because

738
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,360
we can't ask them anymore. You know, we could asked

739
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,559
him much longer, they didn't have the ability to stop

740
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:06,079
and really get later on in the years and later

741
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,960
on in life and look back and go, hey, yeah,

742
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,159
you know, it's still turned out okay. And I always

743
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:15,639
reference him because he's a guy that's far from perfect

744
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,599
and he's done and said a lot of ignorant shit,

745
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:19,440
but at the end of the day, he's an entertainer.

746
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,599
But like the Honky Tonk Man, people are like, oh,

747
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:25,320
he would shot on Hull Cooke, And I'm like, do

748
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,280
you think this guy doesn't realize he has a good

749
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,000
life when ninety eight percent of his co workers around

750
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,239
him are dead and he's living on a golf course

751
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,519
in Arizona. He knows, he knows this turned out pretty

752
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:41,559
fucking good. He's not an idiot, you know. Like that,

753
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,639
That to me is like, well, what are these people

754
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,639
saying I want to hear from like the actual adults

755
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,320
who made it out On the other end, as opposed

756
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,159
to like when people go, well maybe it was, like

757
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,960
you said, just just jealousy. It's like, yeah, well, you

758
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,280
know what if you're a forty year old alcoholic dying

759
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,440
in a fucking holiday innex Rest and Poughkeepsie. Maybe you

760
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:05,400
are angry at Helkogan because you think that that should

761
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,519
have bran you down there in Tampa with the big

762
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,480
fake did he blonde wife? Maybe that's what you think

763
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,719
it is. But I want to hear from the people

764
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,519
that experienced him as a person that made it out

765
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:18,960
on the other end and had a decent life now,

766
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:25,159
like a guy like Bischoff, who I mean, Like, I look.

767
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: At Bischoff, he's very clever. I thought it was a

768
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,760
good idea to bring him in. I think that they

769
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,719
limited I mean, I don't know how long his interview was,

770
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,519
but I felt like he was very limited in a

771
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,119
lot of assets or facets. I thought there was a

772
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,679
lot more that he could have talked about with CNA,

773
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,639
you know. And it's just he came off as very

774
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,559
I don't know, is that the right word, whimsical, Like

775
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:50,480
he just lacks a days ago.

776
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:53,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, those were the days. Yeah, we had a great time.

777
00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:59,159
Speaker 2: Right, It's like a Bischoff, it was falling apart because

778
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:01,480
of you. It was it was.

779
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,199
Speaker 1: Somebody gave you a million dollars and you just all

780
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,599
you did was show up and break everything and laught.

781
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,119
You'd be like, oh, that was a pretty good time,

782
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:08,679
I think.

783
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: And that's when you heard all the stories, Like that's

784
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,000
when they brought out Kong and Kong's like please can

785
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
you can you just give me a living wage? And

786
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,480
they're like, k needs a new boat.

787
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. More, we got to spend money on We.

788
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 2: Gotta pay for Bubba the Love Sponge to do a

789
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:28,440
to do an angle.

790
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,679
Speaker 1: Well, he goes on his radio show and shuts on

791
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,760
you and says a bunch of racist shit about you

792
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,559
after the fact. Yeah, it's it is fucking crazy to

793
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,320
watch this show and to watch the this is what

794
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,679
happened in T and A and people go, well, well,

795
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:49,079
well they were way off. They didn't get this right.

796
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,960
They didn't get that. It's because it was supposed to

797
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,960
be about just Jeff Jarrett. I really think that that's

798
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:56,800
the that's the most.

799
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: But we will highlight a lot of Jeff Jarrett's, Like,

800
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,159
they really didn't highlight much of his WWF stuff, and

801
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,920
I I mean, and did they even really highlight a

802
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,639
lot of the g What was it the I was

803
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:14,360
gonna say gc W What was his fucking global Farce Global.

804
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, yah, well yeah they talked about it.

805
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:19,599
Speaker 2: They didn't. They didn't really talk about his his stuff

806
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:21,519
that he did with Triple A or n J p W.

807
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,559
Like I just thought there were If this really is

808
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:26,880
about Jeff Jarrett, you know, he did more stuff, right,

809
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,440
like they they barely covered the fact that he was

810
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,800
there for Rick Flair's fucking retirement. Oh, I mean, isn't

811
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,440
that a big fucking deal. I would think it's a

812
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,599
pretty big deal retiring, you know, one of the most

813
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:43,639
well known wrestlers in history. Vibe.

814
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,039
Speaker 1: They're they're in a position with wrestling and the amount

815
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:52,679
of lore and everything that surrounds the fandom and the stories,

816
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,519
and like, you're never gonna get it right. You never,

817
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,360
You're never gonna hit all your bases. And I give

818
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,840
them a level of patience and grace with that. But

819
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:10,400
I still think, like I said, this wasn't about TNA.

820
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:14,400
TNA was a TNA was a background character in this

821
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,519
three hour story about Jeff Jarrett.

822
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: But you know it's weird about that too. With all

823
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,360
the amount of resources that they had for Dark Side

824
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:29,199
of the Ring. Rob Feinstein asked better questions. I'm sorry, Yeah,

825
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,880
you go back to those RF shoot days. As silly

826
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,639
and as bad as some of them were, they were

827
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,280
fucking thorough. And it's just amazing to me that you

828
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:42,599
have access to all these different people that want to

829
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:46,199
talk about one single part of time Sean Sean Oliver

830
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,800
did a better job, Like now, why are these guys

831
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,800
just incapable of giving an honest recall or an honest

832
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,320
recanting of what actually happened.

833
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it has to do with

834
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,679
like when you mentioned a guy even like like fine

835
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,360
scene which should or Sean Oliver where it's like they

836
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,719
were able to fish from a pool of a lot

837
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,000
of people that were throwing all of these questions and

838
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:18,599
ideas and thoughts like what do you feel about this?

839
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:20,760
What do you feel about that? Blah blah blah blah.

840
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,920
Like their ability to fish from that pond and then

841
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,840
just make an interview about it is going to be

842
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,840
different than them than trying to make like a succinct television.

843
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: So you literally do the exact same thing. Hey, we

844
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,400
got such and such because they released the names right

845
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:41,760
like like six months before they even go on air

846
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,440
or whatever. I remember, even me and keV like, oh shit,

847
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,239
we got six months until this fucking drops, you're telling me,

848
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,159
in that time, they couldn't just say, hey, any questions

849
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,079
that you think we should ask or we should talk

850
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:56,000
about Jesus Christ. People would fucking murder to have their

851
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:59,159
questions answered live on air to Eric Bischoff or fucking

852
00:45:59,199 --> 00:45:59,880
Jeff Jarred.

853
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: You know, well it's the problem is I also think

854
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,920
this as there's obviously when you start getting into something

855
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,360
like a bigger thing like television, obviously he goes get

856
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,280
into play. Which is the irony of this, you know,

857
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,920
wrestling and egos and everything destroys it. Mean, while you're

858
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,760
making a show about wrestling, and like you said, why

859
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,000
wouldn't you just open open up the floor to have

860
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:25,440
people present you with different.

861
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Anger control control to a point? I don't mean like

862
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,239
some gogas you know, guy asked like were are you

863
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,719
such a pussy? Jeff? Like, oh, Mike, Mike Hammond in

864
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,360
Indiana wats No, hey, Jeff, why are you such a pussy?

865
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,239
Like that? Like no, not like that bad? But I

866
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,840
mean you can use the questions that people ask on

867
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,880
social media, or you can create Reddit threads whatever the fuck,

868
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,480
and you could take from those. You can take those

869
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,400
ideas you can even give, you know, some kind of

870
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,679
credence to the to the people that ask those questions

871
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,280
at the end of the show with the credits, like

872
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,119
whatever it may be. But I just think that it's

873
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,360
very myopic, it's very one sided, it's very narrow minded.

874
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,360
For just this presentation of Jeff Jarrett and TNA, it's

875
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,119
just they didn't do a good job of highlighting all

876
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:14,800
of Jeff Jarrett's life, they didn't do a good job

877
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,480
of highlighting TNA's life. I just three episodes isn't enough.

878
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:25,880
And I mean for supposedly a channel that's starved for content,

879
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,280
it's like, well, why don't you give them twelve episodes

880
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,920
and do it right?

881
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,559
Speaker 1: Well, the toughest thing I think it is for Dark

882
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:37,400
side of the Ring in general, and the idea, like

883
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:41,800
the television format of making a forty five minute long

884
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,960
documentary with interviews. We've now gotten to the point where

885
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:50,199
there's enough money in it for people, or at least

886
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:54,599
the hope of money in it that just random individuals

887
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:58,119
and fans will put together shit like this on the

888
00:47:58,159 --> 00:47:59,639
Internet and put it on YouTube.

889
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're.

890
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: Trying to make a television show when you're like, look,

891
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,880
we're using background shots and it's a it's a silhouette

892
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,519
of Jeff Jared hitting someone with a guitar and all

893
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:13,840
this other shit. And I'm not saying like, hey, turn

894
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,800
it straight to me.

895
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, I can tell you firsthand that's all.

896
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,159
That's all fucking online. All of those shots that they have,

897
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,119
those are not special. Somebody's not filming that. That shit

898
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:32,719
has already done. Those are stock Those are stock videos,

899
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:38,800
stock images. There is nothing inherently extra special other than

900
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,760
the fact that they sit down with sad music and

901
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,719
interview all these people, and it's just that's it.

902
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: Well, that's it too, though. It's like to some extent,

903
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,880
whatever time and money and effort they put into this,

904
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:56,039
they're in their minds going, well, we got to pay

905
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:57,920
this one, we gotta have this, we gotta have this

906
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,079
level of fancy shit and meme while there's just a

907
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,639
dude and a basement and wherever fucking you know, Ohio.

908
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,880
And he's like, well, I'm going to make a secondary

909
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,719
source of income and it's just going to be me

910
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,519
making wrestling documentaries and my voice is decent enough and

911
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:18,360
if I can make a couple hundred bucks a month

912
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:23,320
off this fucking hell yeah, and that will sometimes be

913
00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:27,599
as good, if not better then some of these people.

914
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:29,719
Will you at all much money into it.

915
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: You know, you adopt the eBay, the Walmart way of

916
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,119
doing things. You buy out the competition. That's what you do. Hey,

917
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,599
these guys are these guys are competing with us. You

918
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:42,920
know what we do. We buy them out, make them

919
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,159
a part of the team, have them do the intro

920
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,960
like they could do like the Big East slot for

921
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,519
Stephanie's podcast, and then you know what, they're done. They're

922
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:52,440
done for the day. Here's your two hundred dollars. Don't

923
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,679
make any videos, stay home.

924
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:58,079
Speaker 1: You know well that that I think was attempted to

925
00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:01,960
be done in some respects Tony Kahan, I think he

926
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:04,440
tried that a good amount of times. Right, You're like,

927
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,840
who are the podcasters that will suck my balls no

928
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,800
matter what? Okay, well, let me throw them some press passes.

929
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,639
Speaker 2: I still believe that. I still really believe that. I

930
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:16,960
remember we had this conversation years ago, back when aw

931
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,960
first started and Tony Kahan was doing those rounds. I

932
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,199
remember feeling like that, and I don't know if I'm

933
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,599
the one that brought it up. You were John, but

934
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:28,000
I'm like, he's trying to control the narrative of podcasts.

935
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,719
And I remember I was getting pushed back from me

936
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,599
maybe even the chat room and stuff like that, like

937
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:34,360
that's not happening. Why there's no money in it? And

938
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,400
I'm like, there's no money in it, but there is attention,

939
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:41,519
there is power, There is this influx of goodwill, this

940
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:45,400
manufactured goodwill, And yeah, he did that for a while

941
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,519
and eventually hooked Dave on board, and here were at.

942
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: This point, it's like anybody that's even feigning arguing that

943
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,079
this is a relationship between him and Tony Khan, and

944
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:06,679
like if it's if it's not, if it's not a relationship,

945
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,199
whether it be a business or a friendship or whatever

946
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:13,159
you want to call it, then Dave Meltzer has just

947
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,239
been carrying water viciously for this guy for half a

948
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,039
decade or more.

949
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: Our running gag was I wish my girlfriend loved me

950
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,079
as much as fucking Dave loves Tony Khan.

951
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, find you find you a person that loves

952
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:29,760
you as much as Dave Meltzer loves aw. That's that's

953
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,320
really and and by the way, that still remains true,

954
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:40,119
Like this hasn't changed. The only reason that we don't

955
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:42,960
cover it as much is because there's only so many

956
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,039
times where you can say the water is wet.

957
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't stop. Dave, Dave doesn't stop. Dave is

958
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,119
a rider, die bitch for Tony Kahan.

959
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean this this thing will be, you know,

960
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:59,000
up on cinderblocks and he'll be fucking trying to blow

961
00:51:59,039 --> 00:51:59,679
air into it.

962
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: There's no If there were photos at leak one day

963
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,079
of Dave and Tony just fucking buck naked rolling around

964
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:10,639
in some grass somewhere, I would not be surprised at all.

965
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even I'd just be like, all right, that's

966
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:20,000
talks about that makes sense, you know, like just the

967
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:23,639
same way, like way after the fact, years and years

968
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:27,599
and years after the fact. Now, there was a GM

969
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:31,719
that I worked with in a kitchen and he was

970
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,039
quietly dating a married woman who was a manager in

971
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:42,480
another part of the restaurant, and we all fucking right,

972
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,800
like everybody was, you know, hey, we know that this

973
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,719
is Oh no, no, no, no, no, you guys, come on,

974
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,960
this is crazy. What what are you guys talking about? No, no, no, no,

975
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,800
like come on, come on, like we're all aware of it,

976
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,599
you know, lo and behold, years after the fact, I

977
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:03,480
go through like my Instagram recommended friends, and there they

978
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,760
are now in his profile picture. It's him with her,

979
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,880
and they're like, hey, look at this, and it's like,

980
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:12,920
oh yeah, the divorce, fucking the divorce came through, and

981
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:15,880
you know they were they were hooking up that whole time.

982
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:18,280
So it's like it's not like I saw it and

983
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,599
I fell out of my seat, right, you.

984
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: Believe that in a negative way, Like if they of them.

985
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: Too, if they're happy together, I'm kind of I'm fucking glad.

986
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,679
Speaker 2: If Dave and Tony genuinely found love for each other,

987
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,960
then fucking good for them.

988
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:37,079
Speaker 1: But yeah, just don't don't bullshit us about it. That's all. Like,

989
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:42,239
that's that to me, has always been and maybe it's

990
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,760
like a selfish component, even on my own end where

991
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,800
I look at it and I'm like, just don't don't

992
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,000
fucking be full of shit. Just be be fort right

993
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:55,840
with it, and like, no matter how fucking weird or

994
00:53:56,039 --> 00:53:58,280
even if I don't, you know, it's not my cup

995
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,400
of tea or whatever, like just your shit, yeah, own

996
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,199
it for sure. Yeah, Like he's cheating on his you

997
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,280
know she's cheating on her husband. May's the husband might

998
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,320
be a fucking dink. I don't know him. He could suck,

999
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,440
but like, don't fucking you know, do it. Don't don't

1000
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,639
mess in my face, Like, don't do that shit to me,

1001
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,039
like don't play, don't play in my fucking face or

1002
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,039
whatever they say with it. Don't don't shit in it,

1003
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:26,440
fart in it. Like I know something is up. I'm

1004
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,400
not stupid, and that's okay. And it's like, if for

1005
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,400
whatever reason, Dave Meltzer just got on and he was like, hey,

1006
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,840
you know, like, uh, Tony Khan fucking paid off my mortgage.

1007
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,039
Shouldn't tell me Khan pace for my fucking bills, and

1008
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:47,159
Tony Khan helped my kid when my kid got married,

1009
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:50,199
and Tony Khan fucking gave him a fifty grand to

1010
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:53,800
do it, I would go all right, cool, and by

1011
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,239
the way, going forward, if he still was like, well,

1012
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,559
I'm not gonna say anything bad about aw because Tony

1013
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:01,800
did all this that was good for me, I'd.

1014
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 4: Go, okay, that's also fair, you know, like, Okay, you're

1015
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,559
not a good critic of this, and you're maybe somebody

1016
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:12,760
that's compromised and why would you have an opinion on this?

1017
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,199
Speaker 1: But how can I do the same exact shit when

1018
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:19,599
I listened to a guy like Cornette, who Cornett will

1019
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:23,440
be like, oh Cid throwings, No, no, no, he's no,

1020
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:26,280
he's good, And I'm like, Jim, you know he's not good.

1021
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,039
You just like him personally because you worked with him

1022
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:29,599
a dec I.

1023
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,639
Speaker 2: Heard Jim actually pay Vincerew so a compliment or it

1024
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:35,960
was it was a weird Yeah, Now, well I had

1025
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,119
to do with Dixie because I think it was a

1026
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:42,119
point when he was talking with Brian, and I believe

1027
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:44,280
he was talking about Vince Rew, so I'd have to

1028
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,559
go back and listen. But he basically said that I've

1029
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:52,480
known the guy for years, but he wasn't tapping Dixie

1030
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:54,280
because I think Brian brought.

1031
00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: Up the compliment.

1032
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,039
Speaker 2: The compliment is definitely no, he was smart enough not

1033
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:02,679
to tap Dixie the way he put it. So yeah,

1034
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,880
it wasn't like he wasn't tapping him because he couldn't.

1035
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,840
It was more like, ah, that might not be a

1036
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,880
vince rous thing. That one might that rumor might be

1037
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,360
full of shit. It's like, all right, that's fine.

1038
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: I would love after that, Like Vince Rousso gets on

1039
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,679
his podcast and he's like, thank you Jimmy for being

1040
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,400
so kind to me. I appreciate that you did that,

1041
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:30,719
but it's like, I still want you to fucking die.

1042
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:32,960
I still want you to bleed and die and suffer.

1043
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,800
I do not think I should bleed and die and suffer.

1044
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,599
Thank you, Jimmy.

1045
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:48,559
Speaker 2: Championship Wrestling, all right, but hey, look let's get out

1046
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:50,360
of here. I know it's been an hour doing a

1047
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,440
short show because obviously we got a short time. But

1048
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,199
tomorrow we have Frank and Guss and then of course

1049
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,320
Saturday Joe, you guess Saturday Night's made event.

1050
00:56:58,119 --> 00:57:01,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, be doing predictions for that tomorrow.

1051
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll do that for tomorrow because I think that, yeah,

1052
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,679
there's gonna be some changes tonight.

1053
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, are they going to have

1054
00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:11,159
they're gonna add to manches to this thing? Because I

1055
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:12,719
feel like there's what too, there's.

1056
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:15,039
Speaker 2: Only two on on the event that I'm looking at.

1057
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:17,800
We're also doing this show early too. I don't think

1058
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,159
people understand how early the show is being done. But

1059
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,280
let's see. What do we have right now? Is just

1060
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:29,480
uh oh god, let's see bye. I can't even find

1061
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,159
the fucking page.

1062
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,599
Speaker 1: What the fuck I was gonna say, there's well, there's

1063
00:57:33,639 --> 00:57:34,599
bird Girl in Bailey.

1064
00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: Okay, No, we do have a full thing up now. Okay,

1065
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:42,599
So it's Cody and Punk against Gunther and Sammy. Oh

1066
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:45,000
Roman Reigns will appear in New York with the New

1067
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:52,000
York Knicks. Oh cool, Bailey versus Lyra and Page and

1068
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:55,920
Breed Bella versus Fallon. Henley and Lanley Laney.

1069
00:57:55,639 --> 00:58:02,159
Speaker 1: Read oh yeah, and well guys, yeah, stop the presses.

1070
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it. That's all we got right now.

1071
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,639
Speaker 1: So oh me, oh my, all right, Well we'll see

1072
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:16,199
you guys tomorrow. Then it's it's abyss. Follow wrestling on Twilt,

1073
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:20,679
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1074
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:26,480
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