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<v Speaker 1>Kaitlyn Richardson. She is with the Daily Caller News Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>and a reporter, and we're going to talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Gates as AG. I do want to throw two

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<v Speaker 1>things out for you. Republican David McCormick has won the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate seat that was being held by Senator Bob Casey.

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans take another Senate seat to pad their lead. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you missed it, Trump has announced rfk Junior for

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<v Speaker 1>Health and Human Services Secretary. So two of those things

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<v Speaker 1>happened during the show. Just want to make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>get those in. Caitlin, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for having me on. So give me your.

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<v Speaker 1>View on the Matt Gates appointment to Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, what I've been hearing in what a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people have been expressing is this was not a

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<v Speaker 2>pick that was on anybody's radar. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of surprise surrounding this nomination and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>questions about how it'll go, whether it'll whether he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be confirmed in the Senate, whether the I

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<v Speaker 2>thinks report will still come out. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>questions right now during this nomination. But I think what

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<v Speaker 2>Trump was trying to do in nominating Matt Gates again

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<v Speaker 2>is another question, but it seems to me from conversations

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<v Speaker 2>I've had that you know, Gates is an outsider, He's

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<v Speaker 2>a disruptor, and I think that's something that Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>looking for in the Department of Justice. He wants someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to implement his agenda. He's going to be loyal,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think there's some concern that there might be

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<v Speaker 2>career staffs who are working against him, and he wants

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's going to be tough and able to manage

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<v Speaker 2>that and get through what he wants done.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the second part of that is correct, that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants somebody who's going to be tough, who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be strong, who's going to you know, strip the

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<v Speaker 1>doj of its left wing politicization. But I got to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I feel like Matt Gates is the sacrificial

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<v Speaker 1>lamb in this appointment side, that he's going to suck

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<v Speaker 1>up all the negative oxygen. And the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>immediately resigned from the House just before the House Ethics

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<v Speaker 1>Committee report was supposed to come out, it just calls

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing into question. Although I also kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is one of those moves where Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is utilizing a kind of Trumpian strategicy, that he's using

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<v Speaker 1>this appointment to get some other something done, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>mass resignation at the Department of Justice before the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General takes over. I don't know, but this certainly seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it came out of left field.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. I think that's certainly a possibility

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<v Speaker 2>that I've heard as well, that nominating Matt Gates was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, potentially a way to get another nominee and

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<v Speaker 2>later on, whether that be Mark Paletta or not Lager,

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<v Speaker 2>someone else who has been one of the more expected candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>I think also this could draw attention away from his

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<v Speaker 2>other nominees. Know, all the focuses on Matt Gates and

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<v Speaker 2>the media's attention and the Senate's attention, I think some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other nominees, which we're also unexpected, might not

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<v Speaker 2>get that same criticism, And that is a possibility. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't fully know what President Trump is thinking when

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<v Speaker 2>he puts his nomination through yet, but there aren't certainly

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions that were made to be answered.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any scuttle but in DC, any rumors about

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<v Speaker 1>what's in that House Ethics report? Has anything come out

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<v Speaker 1>leaked or in otherwise that you know of, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know yet that it has leaked. Obviously, it was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to there's vote was supposed to be on Friday

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<v Speaker 2>for it to come out, and as we mentioned, his

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<v Speaker 2>red insignation is kind of through rent in that. But

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<v Speaker 2>it does seem that we're going to see it eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think that it probably will leak. Obviously a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of senators have interested in seeing that, I see

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else. So it's like we will. We'll know at

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<v Speaker 2>some point, but not now. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>CBS News right now is reporting that the Ethics Committee

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be meeting to schedule a vote on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday to decide whether or not to release its report.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll hopefully know something soon, and I'm guessing they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to act quickly if there's any there there, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, if if there's something in

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<v Speaker 1>this report, then we're going to see it right away.

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<v Speaker 1>If it just peters out, if it just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>goes away, then I would think there wouldn't be that

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<v Speaker 1>much in the report, And they're using that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know to cast doubt over Matt Gates. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that I could imagine if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>release it, it just honestly makes them look kind of

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<v Speaker 1>guilty without actually proving anything, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think this will be interesting to watch

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<v Speaker 2>play out. This is a very important appointment for President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>rest or most close to having have expressed a desire

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<v Speaker 2>to combat censorship, combat laws here that he experienced over

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<v Speaker 2>the past couple of years, to pardon January sixth defendants.

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<v Speaker 2>These are all goals that you want to accomplish through DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>So whoever end up finally in this position is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate the insight. This is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a very interesting confirmation hearing to watch. Caitlin Richardson from

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<v Speaker 1>the Daily Caller News Foundation, thanks for your time today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.
