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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of Astrology with Alice. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here with Michelle Vasil who is an LA based psychic medium, hypnotherapist,

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<v Speaker 1>and she also specializes in spirit babies. So we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to cover. We do. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's our first time meeting in person, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>been communicating a lot over the last few months, like

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<v Speaker 1>on zoom calls and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like I've known you for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love that. Before we get started, what is

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<v Speaker 1>your sun, moon and rising?

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<v Speaker 2>So overay, So my son is Libra, the rising is Sagittarius,

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<v Speaker 2>and the moon is Leo.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the moon in the ninth house. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like with all the kind of spiritual people I've been

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<v Speaker 1>having on here, a lot of people have ninth house

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<v Speaker 1>placements because it is such a like interested in astrology

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<v Speaker 1>or spirituality in general placement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what makes me feel at home, very comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>So it makes sense. Yea. Also, you have your chart

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<v Speaker 1>ruler Jupiter in your seventh house Gemini, and we both

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<v Speaker 1>have that in common. I have the ruling planet on

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<v Speaker 1>my chart of my seventh Yeah, how do you see

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<v Speaker 1>that like our seventh House themes super important.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, relationships. Well, first of all in life, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like for a lot of people it's like this,

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<v Speaker 2>but for me specifically, like connection is the most important thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The relationships in my life are the reason why I'm alive,

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<v Speaker 2>to strengthen and to just grow deeper connection. But then

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<v Speaker 2>in my work, I have a company called Victim to Victor,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm often helping people with the relationship with themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>the relationships that they have with their parents, the relationships

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<v Speaker 2>with their loved ones, their friendships. So it makes its

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<v Speaker 2>way into almost every element of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like navigating relationships becomes important in career two. Yeah absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you find way your chart ruler in the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>that you're often like kind of comparing yourself to other

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<v Speaker 1>people or you need relationships to show you more of

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<v Speaker 1>who you are. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like my friendships, my relationships, they are my

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<v Speaker 2>mirror for the things that I need to work on.

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<v Speaker 2>So when someone is coming into my life with certain

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<v Speaker 2>things and situations get brought up like we are the

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<v Speaker 2>center point. So I know they say it's not all

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<v Speaker 2>about you, but it is a lot of the time

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<v Speaker 2>about you. And the things that are happening around you

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<v Speaker 2>are showing you different aspects of yourself. So with a person,

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<v Speaker 2>you are being beautifully mirrored back your strengths, back your weaknesses,

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you need to work on. Something that

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<v Speaker 2>I think is so interesting is that the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you like in another person are often the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you like in yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Or like what you're jealous in another person. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have exactly Yes, yeah, I find that's

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<v Speaker 1>a struggle with a son in the seventh house. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like being envious of other people in some ways, but

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<v Speaker 1>then being like, wait, I could do that myself, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of showing me that.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever I notice that envy come up, because I am

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely so happy for the people around me who are

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<v Speaker 2>doing well. But when there is a ping of jealousy,

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<v Speaker 2>I take it as a blessing because I'm like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously something that they're doing is what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be doing. I want to be experiencing, and so how

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<v Speaker 2>can I implement more of that in my life? And

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<v Speaker 2>then that jealousy it goes away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. I want to start by talking about

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<v Speaker 1>your work as a psychic media. How did you get

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<v Speaker 1>into this because I feel like a lot of people think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something you have to be born with and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just naturally psychic from like the day you're born. But

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned to me on a call that like it

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<v Speaker 1>was something you picked up in your twenties. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to elaborate on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I think as a child, I was always

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Did in like magic?

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<v Speaker 2>I practice magic, and I loved like witchcraft, Harry Potter.

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<v Speaker 2>I got lost in those books because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go away and open up those gifts, but I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>seeing dead people. Yes, yeah, I do. However, now that

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned how to do these things, I do believe

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<v Speaker 2>we all have gifts. We all have our own intuitive

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<v Speaker 2>gifts that are there for us to open up. Should

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<v Speaker 2>that be something that we want to do, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think as human consciousness grows and as we further along

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<v Speaker 2>as society, people will be naturally opening up there. They're

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<v Speaker 2>called clarees, and there's a bunch of different kinds of claares,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all have like maybe one, two, three of

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<v Speaker 2>those clarees that are within ourselves to really fully invest in,

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<v Speaker 2>but really if you practiced any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they're tools. You can grow them and learn them.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't really so I initially I started songwriting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I it was right before my Saturn return.

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<v Speaker 1>I were like late twenties. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Writing music and there was a yoga studio on the

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<v Speaker 2>corner of my street, and so I would go to

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<v Speaker 2>yoga and then when I was coming home, these songs

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<v Speaker 2>would start pouring into me. And I noticed that my

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<v Speaker 2>songwriting was different before I went to yoga than it

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<v Speaker 2>was after I went to yoga. So I started going

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<v Speaker 2>to yoga before writing sessions because I was like something

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<v Speaker 2>about yoga yoga is opening me up, connecting me to

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<v Speaker 2>something higher. So that was my first experience with channeling,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's really what it is. But then it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>until I had a friend pass away and I just

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to talk to him, and I started with

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<v Speaker 2>tarot cards a lot. There was a lot of dream

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<v Speaker 2>work too, like he would visit me in dreams. And

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<v Speaker 2>then in Los Angeles, I fell into a community of

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<v Speaker 2>intuitive people who were practicing their skills, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>a reading with someone who brought in my friend and

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<v Speaker 2>like her whole face changed and like she had his mannerisms,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Teach me what you're doing. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So then I started opening up Mediumship and that's

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<v Speaker 2>really where my life changed, and I began developing mediumship.

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<v Speaker 1>What sign is your Saturn in my first Oh so

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<v Speaker 1>this is a first house Saturn return. Yes, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very arnous. It was like it was so intense. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was really like uncovering like abilities you have within

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or like seeing yourself in a different way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was also I separated from a really important relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I moved from New York to Los Angeles, my friend died,

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<v Speaker 2>I went through alcohol abuse, I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Find a job.

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<v Speaker 2>I switched to careers.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, it was so intense. The first house really covers

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<v Speaker 1>like all of the topics of life, like yeah, huge planets,

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<v Speaker 1>like like Saturn going through the first it's like everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You can expect multiple areas to shift.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did really feel that it was I often

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<v Speaker 2>so my younger sister and I actually in my before

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<v Speaker 2>my Saturn return, she would come and spend time with

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<v Speaker 2>me and we got very close. And then after my

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<v Speaker 2>we had difficulty during the process, and then afterwards she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you're like a different person. I don't relate

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<v Speaker 2>to you anymore. And we've figured it out since then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was so interesting because I got that a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was something that people asked me. They were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're so different, how did you do it? And it

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<v Speaker 2>was really I processed my trauma, like I processed the

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<v Speaker 2>things that were keeping me rigid and inauthentic. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then processed through the Saturn return. I would say until

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a lifelong journey right until about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three thirty four, I would say christ Consciousness year. The

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<v Speaker 2>thirty third year is really when I started being this other,

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<v Speaker 2>like implementing all the things from my Saturn return and

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<v Speaker 2>really being able to walk that path.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting because I'm thirty three right now, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like kind of immediately after the saddern Return, like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty one, thirty two, still a little bit uncertain

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<v Speaker 1>or like insecure, and I do feel like in thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three it's like this is who I am. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if people listening like they're not feeling that exactly

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<v Speaker 1>in the Saturn return, give it a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Well, because you learn all the lessons, but

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<v Speaker 2>usually the Saturn return is so packed with experiences that

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<v Speaker 2>you do need. It's like if you're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>a mushroom or iowasca journey, they say not to do

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<v Speaker 2>them back to back to back to back, because when

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<v Speaker 2>you have one experience with that medicine, you need time

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<v Speaker 2>to process it. I actually feel you need at least

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<v Speaker 2>a year or two to process any individual journey because

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<v Speaker 2>that's how powerful it is. And so if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Saturn return as a journey, I need a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years to process.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that happened. Yeah, and you're building up to the

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<v Speaker 1>Saturn square around thirty six yeahes which I just experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>How was that in comparison? So much easier?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh my god, it's so much easier. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the thirty sixth year for me, it was the

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<v Speaker 2>I was having a nodal return, and I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>met my partner. I'm also a writer and director, So

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<v Speaker 2>a project I was working on we went into production.

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<v Speaker 2>I shifted gears within my company, like so many foundational

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<v Speaker 2>things shifted. It was like my Saturn return in certain ways,

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<v Speaker 2>but so like there was no death, which was not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna win very nice not to experience. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>if I were to experience my Saturn return now nearly

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<v Speaker 2>a decade later, I now have the tools to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of the stuff that happened. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the capacity. I wasn't awake, I didn't I was

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<v Speaker 2>unconscious in a lot of ways. So an unconscious person

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<v Speaker 2>like flailing about trying to deal with these huge life

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<v Speaker 2>topics as opposed to someone like myself now who understands

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<v Speaker 2>grief and knows how the how to integrate those things.

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<v Speaker 2>If I were to move through those things now, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a support system of things that I could rely

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<v Speaker 2>on to make sure that I could process.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like the same transit, like you'll get another

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<v Speaker 1>side on return, for instance, but it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>hit you the same way because you've grown. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to like when you were so basically when

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<v Speaker 1>you stumbled into this new interest of like wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to channel and become more of like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, top into your psychic abilities. I guess was

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<v Speaker 1>there like an initial experience where you're like, WHOA, that

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<v Speaker 1>was so cool, Like I just did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I still have mom. It's like that where

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<v Speaker 2>I read for someone, and like even the other night,

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading for a friend and she was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's my baby's purpose? And the first thing that popped

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<v Speaker 2>in was a dentist. And I was like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>know this is really random, but I'm getting dentist. And

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, oh my god, she has to be joking.

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<v Speaker 2>My family and I were just kidding about the worst

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<v Speaker 2>jobs in the world, and we said a dentist must

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<v Speaker 2>be because we all hate going to them. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, that's so funny because it's such

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<v Speaker 2>a random thing for me to pick up on. But

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<v Speaker 2>So back in twenty twenty one, I was in tu Loom,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tuloom is this beautiful portal of energy. There's certain cities, towns,

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<v Speaker 2>So I find when I'm in one of those places,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm closer to a higher power. I'm closer

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<v Speaker 2>to the heavens. And in the morning at our resort,

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<v Speaker 2>you could go and have like a communal breakfast. You

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<v Speaker 2>go sit with other people. And I sat down next

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<v Speaker 2>to this man and with spirits, and we can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this. I have established very strong boundaries, which has

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<v Speaker 2>have told them like I don't want to see you,

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<v Speaker 2>like in waking life, like I don't want to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're there, I'll like close my eyes and then

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<v Speaker 2>you can come forward, or I'll see like pops of

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<v Speaker 2>color or brushes of light. So when we go and

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<v Speaker 2>sit down, and this was the first time I ever

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<v Speaker 2>felt it like this. It was literally like someone was knocking,

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<v Speaker 2>and I intuitively knew it was his mother because I'm clearvoyant,

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<v Speaker 2>so clear seeing I see things kind of like they're

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<v Speaker 1>It's very subtle.

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<v Speaker 2>And then clear cognisance, which is an all knowing, clear knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just know things, And so I knew it was

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and I just asked, you know, is your mom

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side, and he was like, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>passed away, And I was like, I know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>really random, but I'm a medium, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>your mom is here. Do you mind if I just

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<v Speaker 2>tap in and get the messages and give them to you?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like okay, So I give him whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I come out to him. I'm like, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, you know, this morning, I sat at the

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<v Speaker 2>beach and I was speaking to my mother and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel you around me anymore, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, I need a sign that you are

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<v Speaker 2>still here. And then literally an hour later, a medium

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<v Speaker 2>of like, this is why.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this. Yeah, like I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Connecting again, connecting relationships right, connecting people to each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just such a special, magical moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is so cool. Oh my god. So you

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<v Speaker 1>before we fully get into spear babies, because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to spend any time talking about that niche of yours.

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<v Speaker 1>You balance like mediumship and hypnotherapy with a whole other

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<v Speaker 1>career of screenwriting, like writing and directing short films well.

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<v Speaker 2>In regular yes, yeah, yeah, so I'm a writer director.

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<v Speaker 2>It started with songwriting, so I grew up in musical theater,

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<v Speaker 2>and hence why I lived in New York for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>I would audition all the time, and I moved to

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<v Speaker 2>the film industry writing music for different projects. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also an actor, so I was like in those projects.

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<v Speaker 2>And back in twenty nineteen, right before the pandemic, I

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<v Speaker 2>was performing at the Troubadour, which is this big theater, famous, famous,

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<v Speaker 2>iconic like the Eagles, Janis Joplin, Aunt John They've all

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<v Speaker 2>played this stage. It's insane. I got very very lucky

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<v Speaker 2>then I do stand up, and then I do a

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<v Speaker 2>my music manager came up to me and was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that you're writing a musical, right, Like that

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<v Speaker 2>was a musical, and so then the pandemic happened and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I guess I'm writing a musical.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wrote my first movie musical and then we

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<v Speaker 2>actually one of my clients. The two funnel into each other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting how spirit works. But my company, I

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<v Speaker 2>often meet the people that I work with in my

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<v Speaker 2>writing directing. So one of my clients was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>came to the Troubadour, saw the show and was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh sorry, I got to reperform at the Troubadour in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four and one of my clients came to

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<v Speaker 2>that show and that was where I presented the music

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<v Speaker 2>from the musical, and so she saw that and was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to invest in this. Well, this was one

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<v Speaker 2>of your medium clients. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, she was.

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<v Speaker 2>So with hypnotherapy and mediumship, I have a combined I

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<v Speaker 2>have programs that I do with people, and so she

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<v Speaker 2>was a longtime client that I'd been working with and

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<v Speaker 2>she had fallen in love with the things my creations

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<v Speaker 2>and helped me to springboard into a part of the

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<v Speaker 2>film industry that I hadn't. I didn't know how I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to get there, and God worked it out

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<v Speaker 2>for me and the universe made it all happen. We shot, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I think tomorrow, we shot my first thing ever a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago. So for twenty six, twenty five was when

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<v Speaker 2>we shot three hundred feet Tall in the Redwood Forest,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that's making its way into festivals and I

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<v Speaker 2>just got hired to work on another short film. But

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<v Speaker 2>the goal of a short film is ultimately to create

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<v Speaker 2>a full feature or a pilot. So it's more so

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<v Speaker 2>like a proof of concept of what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>you are creating. And the way that I have the

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<v Speaker 2>two kind of funneling in is my company. I work

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<v Speaker 2>one on one with people in my creations. In my writing,

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<v Speaker 2>it's meant to be more of like a mass experience

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<v Speaker 2>to help my goals to connect people into deeper parts

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<v Speaker 2>of themselves and to wake themselves up to be as

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<v Speaker 2>conscious as possible and to be as open hearted as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm able to do that one on one

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<v Speaker 2>in my company, and then with my musicals, my film,

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<v Speaker 2>my pilots, I open up people's minds on a bigger scale.

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<v Speaker 1>So the two influence each other in a really possible

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<v Speaker 1>they doo. Do you feel like you could ever choose

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<v Speaker 1>between one or the other or you need kind of

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<v Speaker 1>variety in your career in that way?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think ultimately it's hard to say. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why I'm developing mother's intuition with spirit babies

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<v Speaker 2>is because ultimately, as I move into motherhood, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I want. I've made a promise to children to spirit

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<v Speaker 2>babies that I would help them. So I'll always do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll always help the children, but my writing and directing, eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>when that is at a place where it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit bigger, I will invest more time in that and

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<v Speaker 2>then have my children and then the children of spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's kind of how and Victim to

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<v Speaker 2>Victor my first company, that was more so working with

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<v Speaker 2>people to overcome trauma and victimization. That was really present

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<v Speaker 2>because I was going through that. We do what we

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<v Speaker 2>are experiencing. So I was experiencing overcoming a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>sexual abuse. And as I did that, then this practice

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<v Speaker 2>grew and then I began working with people who were

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<v Speaker 2>overcoming that as well. Now I still operate that, but

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<v Speaker 2>as I move into motherhood over the next few years,

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<v Speaker 2>I will eventually allow that to leave and just more

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<v Speaker 2>so open up mother's intuition to work with spirit babies.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, you know, with kids, I guess it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be how much.

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<v Speaker 1>Time do I have, you know, like what do I

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<v Speaker 1>have time for?

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<v Speaker 2>But ultimately my creations, I mean, I want to put

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<v Speaker 2>them up on Netflix. I want to put the musicals

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<v Speaker 2>up on Broadway immersive experiences like I have huge, big,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful ideas, and we'll let the universe show me where

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<v Speaker 2>it's all meant to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I kind of taking it one stuff at a time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about spirit babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was like something you discovered and became a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more interested in a few years after you got

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<v Speaker 1>into psychic mediumship, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So actually it happened before. Oh okay, so when I

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<v Speaker 2>was so during the Saturn Return was when my gifts

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<v Speaker 2>were opening. But I don't think I actually got certified

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<v Speaker 2>until I was like thirty one thirty two, so at

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<v Speaker 2>about the age of thirty, So right towards the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the Saturn Return, I went to a breathwork ceremony

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<v Speaker 2>and I had never done breath work, and for anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who hasn't, it's like, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's powerful. I've done it once. I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>life changing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it it will take you to higher levels of consciousness,

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<v Speaker 2>like immediately. But I went to a breathwork ceremony and

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<v Speaker 2>you drink CBD as a tea, so it just helps

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<v Speaker 2>the like calm oxidized oxidization that's happening in your body

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<v Speaker 2>and you're breathing in and my hands were like curling

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<v Speaker 2>in because of the kind of breath work that we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing. And I got taken up above clouds. I

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<v Speaker 2>was seeing clouds and then there was this short little

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<v Speaker 2>man and he went like this in his arms, and

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<v Speaker 2>in his arms was a baby boy. And I heard

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<v Speaker 2>my voice go, is that my son? James? And I

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<v Speaker 2>got so tape. I was like what just happened to me?

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<v Speaker 2>And I popped out of it and I was like, WHOA.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know I wanted kids. I was so far

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<v Speaker 2>away from a partner and it was just like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I started feeling this child around me, so

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<v Speaker 2>that that was like it started at thirty. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it was when you actually you shared Walter M. Kitchen's

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<v Speaker 2>book Spirit Babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Love that book. Anyone else listening needs to read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think I'd done a couple of readings

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<v Speaker 2>for children before that. But when I read that book,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, something in my body just clicked,

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<v Speaker 2>like I meant to do this. I meant to help

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<v Speaker 2>these children. And so he offers like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>exercises too, So I started doing that to tap into

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<v Speaker 2>of doing things, and it became a tool and I

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<v Speaker 2>have a very unique way that I process and use

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<v Speaker 2>my mediumship. But from there, every once in a while

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<v Speaker 2>I would get clients just with Victim to Victor, who

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<v Speaker 2>were experiencing something, or their kids were earthside and were

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<v Speaker 2>anger issues. So Spirit was bringing me cases where I

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<v Speaker 2>that I have now, I was like, Okay, would I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be taking this energy into my body when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pregnant? Would I want to be working on their

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<v Speaker 2>trauma as I'm experiencing something so sacred because I am

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<v Speaker 2>during a session, I'm like taking their energy and cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>In a way.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a energetic alignment that's happening, attunement that's happening while

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working on them. And I wasn't sure if I

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<v Speaker 2>thing for me to do then? And I just heard, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you work with children. So that's when I started to

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<v Speaker 2>open more up to mother's intuition. At the same time

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<v Speaker 2>that you and I started speaking about everything, and you

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of a part of that expansion for myself.

422
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I think it was on one of my podcasts.

423
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to try to

424
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<v Speaker 1>get pregnant soon. And you heard that and you reached

425
00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 1>out to me and you're like, hey, this is so random,

426
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.599
<v Speaker 1>but do you want a session with me where we

427
00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.759
<v Speaker 1>can tap into the spirit of your future child. Yeah?

428
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:01.799
<v Speaker 1>That was so fun.

429
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>It was I just I felt I was like, ooh,

430
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>that would be a fun thing to do, and I

431
00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:11.519
<v Speaker 2>was so happy that you were game and our sessions together.

432
00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:15.160
<v Speaker 2>It just started to I was like, oh, yeah, this

433
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 2>is because I always say, like, spirit baby readings are

434
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.720
<v Speaker 2>my favorite readings, And if they're my favorite readings, why

435
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:21.680
<v Speaker 2>aren't I doing them more?

436
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

437
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.799
<v Speaker 2>So, now since I've opened this up and you and

438
00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I worked and I I launched the website and I

439
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.559
<v Speaker 2>started more promoting it to my clients, like I'm working

440
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:39.839
<v Speaker 2>with women for preconception, conception, pregnancy, postpartum, both with mediumship

441
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:42.480
<v Speaker 2>and hypnotherapy. Just clients have been coming to me, and

442
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I've been feeling the children kind of like in the ethers,

443
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>orchestrating everything so that I can be their their mouthpiece.

444
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>That's so cool. I know. My question mainly when I

445
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 1>came to you was like when will conception work? Like

446
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 1>when will it happen? Is that mainly why people come

447
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:00.759
<v Speaker 1>to you just wanting to know w happen? Or is

448
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>there are there other specific areas people ask about a lot.

449
00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, that's one of them, especially if someone

450
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:13.079
<v Speaker 2>has been trying for quite some time and they're they're

451
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 2>not having the success that they would want.

452
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I would really like.

453
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.839
<v Speaker 2>To work with people before they try IVF. That's something

454
00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 2>that eventually I will align myself with practitioners that before

455
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:28.359
<v Speaker 2>they go down that very very expensive, very very challenging

456
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>on the body process that they're tapping into the child first,

457
00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:34.160
<v Speaker 2>because sometimes it's.

458
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Something so simple.

459
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>So I will get people who come to me that

460
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.680
<v Speaker 2>are like, we've been trying, is it going to happen?

461
00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

462
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.559
<v Speaker 2>And while I am not a I always have to

463
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:47.079
<v Speaker 2>preface that I'm not a doctor, so always go and

464
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:51.279
<v Speaker 2>seek out medical advice. But oftentimes I will be able

465
00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:55.519
<v Speaker 2>to pick up on medical issues, or I mean sometimes

466
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>it's as easy as the mother is in a really

467
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>stressful job and the child with like the mother to

468
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 2>find a way to regulate their nervous system before carrying them. Interesting, Yeah,

469
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Or they need to be their body physical body isn't

470
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.920
<v Speaker 2>at the weight it needs to be in order to

471
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 2>carry the child, or they need to move into some

472
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:20.319
<v Speaker 2>other place before carrying. Like a lot of times, those

473
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 2>are things that'll come up with preconception. I will get

474
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.440
<v Speaker 2>people that aren't thinking of having a child right now,

475
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>but are interested in expanding that relationship. So like they'll

476
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 2>women are so intuitive and they'll feel something around themselves,

477
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>so I'll go in and find out that and kind

478
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 2>of like flesh out their relationship so that they can

479
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>continue growing that after the call. Yeah, and the questions

480
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 2>that I'll ask almost every spirit baby is why are

481
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 2>you choosing your parents? What is your life purpose? What

482
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:57.960
<v Speaker 2>are your life lessons? Oftentimes people want to know have

483
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I had a pass life with them before? And then

484
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>parents will have their own questions, So like preconception, I'll

485
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:11.079
<v Speaker 2>get that also people who've experienced miscarriages, asking why the

486
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 2>miscarriage happened and wanting to speak to that soul. Often

487
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 2>I feel that that soul has come in more times

488
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>than not to clean out the body. So what I've

489
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 2>learned from hypnotherapy is that we are programmed by our

490
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>main caretakers from the age of zero, when we're in

491
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 2>the womb, all the way until about the age of eight.

492
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>So when a child is in the womb, they are

493
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>being programmed by their parents. And if the mother has,

494
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 2>say she has an abandonment wound, a mother father wound,

495
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.759
<v Speaker 2>a big amount of grief or anger stuck in the body,

496
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.039
<v Speaker 2>the baby may not want to be carried while that

497
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 2>energy is there. So what it will do is it

498
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 2>will work with the mother. It'll come in, it'll miscarry,

499
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>which was the entire tension of the child the entire

500
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 2>time to clean the mother out energetically and emotionally, because

501
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 2>sometimes the mother needs an event like that in order

502
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 2>to process the grief or the anger that's been stuck there,

503
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>or to go and find the help in order to

504
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.799
<v Speaker 2>do that. So that when that's clear, then the spirit

505
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>baby goes Okay, great, now I can I can be

506
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:21.599
<v Speaker 2>with you now, and then comes back.

507
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That resonates a lot with my own experience. I mean,

508
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a miscarriage, but I came to like

509
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>we had our first session. It was after the first

510
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 1>time I had tried to conceive, and I since thought

511
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I was getting my period, and I was like really

512
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 1>upset about it, and you tapped into the spirit and

513
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 1>you were like, yeah, you are about to get your period,

514
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Like that's being confirmed, but it's because there's like a

515
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of emotion that needs to be released first. And

516
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:48.519
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what you meant at the time. And

517
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>then I went home to where my mom and my

518
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>stepdad live in Nashville for Thanksgiving and I had this

519
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 1>like huge moment with my mom where I just let

520
00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 1>out all of the emotions of like why I've been

521
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 1>upset with her my entire life. And then the baby

522
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>was conceived a week later, so powerful, and you had

523
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>predicted You're like, yeah, I think it'll be a positive

524
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>before Christmas. Yeah, so you were right about both of those.

525
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.519
<v Speaker 1>And it was like I didn't know what that emotion was.

526
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, Okay, that makes so much sense.

527
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Why that had to come first, and then I end

528
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.039
<v Speaker 1>up having a daughter because of the I don't know.

529
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 1>I felt like when I first got pregnant. I couldn't

530
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>have a daughter because I don't know what it's like

531
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 1>to have a good mother daughter relationship. You will know,

532
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I know. So I was like the whole time, the

533
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 1>first three months of pregnancy, before I found out the gender,

534
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's a boy, it's a boy. And

535
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>then I was shocked, Yeah it was a girl. Yeah,

536
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought it was what you do too.

537
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm very rarely wrong, but I have been twice.

538
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I've been wrong twice with gender. And in this case,

539
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.079
<v Speaker 2>when I tapped into her, she was like, well, I

540
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 2>wanted my mom to be surprised, which was just so sweet.

541
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 2>So she kept it a secret, little trickster.

542
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So there's some stuff they won't let you in on

543
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>because they want it the parent, just to that intimacy.

544
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's mediumship in general. Sometimes when I'm receiving information,

545
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll get like an X or like a lock like

546
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not meant to know that, or I just won't

547
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:20.759
<v Speaker 2>receive any information. And when I was younger and a

548
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>little bit more inexperienced, I took that as a slight.

549
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh no, I'm not talented enough to

550
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>get that information. And as I've grown, and it's happened

551
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>multiple times. I mean, it doesn't happen frequently, but there

552
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 2>are some areas we're not meant to know everything. Yeah,

553
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, like my intention is to give loving guidance

554
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and advice to align you with your greatest possibility for

555
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.559
<v Speaker 2>this lifetime. So I'm going to give you that information.

556
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>But if something you're asking for is going to hinder that,

557
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:52.759
<v Speaker 2>then we're not going to get that information.

558
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Like I tried to ask you. I get so

559
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>fixated all my career and I was like, what's my

560
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 1>next book going to be about? And you were like,

561
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 1>they literally tell me, like figure it out? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,

562
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.519
<v Speaker 1>how's that going. It's not going yet. I feel like

563
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the baby's the first mission here and then other stuff

564
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>will happen. Yeah. I wanted to ask you more questions

565
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 1>about spirit babies. I'm trying to think of a good one.

566
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I know you can't get into like

567
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 1>exact specifics around clients because that information is super private.

568
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>But have there been like cool instances in readings? I

569
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

570
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, there have been very magical moments. Uh,

571
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>So let's see, let's give general because I don't want to. Yeah,

572
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>every client is so personal. I was working with someone

573
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 2>their child is earth bound and a toddler and was

574
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>having some difficulty at school, and so I just went

575
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>in and we felt into their future timelines because this

576
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.920
<v Speaker 2>mother was just worried how life was going to go

577
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>for their baby and was worried that there was a

578
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>harder path set out for them and wanted to know

579
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 2>loving guidance and advice in order to help these behavioral

580
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>issues that could have potentially helped the child back. And

581
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I was able to give a lot of reassurance to

582
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.559
<v Speaker 2>the mother. And then also I saw this child flourishing,

583
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>so that was beautiful, and the mother contacted me, and

584
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 2>the child has made like a one to eighty turn

585
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>and is flourishing, and those behavioral issues have shifted and

586
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.319
<v Speaker 2>transitioned with time. I had seen that there was the

587
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>possibility of within a couple months time that there was

588
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>going to be a big realization that they were going

589
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>to have that was going to help shift. The child

590
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>was having a hard time talking, and so something big

591
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>shifted for them at the time that I had said,

592
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and then everything kind of fell into place.

593
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so cool. Yeah, when you tap into like

594
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:02.079
<v Speaker 1>a sphere of baby that hasn't been conceived yet. How

595
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:05.759
<v Speaker 1>is like a spear baby's consciousness felt differently than if

596
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you were to tap into like a baby that's already

597
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>been born.

598
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's such an interesting question. So we live in

599
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.119
<v Speaker 2>a multi dimensional world, right, So if I were to

600
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>tap into you, I could tap into your human. I

601
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 2>could tap into your higher self. I could tap into

602
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>your human as an adult. I could tap into them

603
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>as a grandmother, I could tap into them as a child.

604
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 2>And so we have the ability to do that with anyone.

605
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>So when I'm speaking to people on the other side,

606
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'm talking to their very human.

607
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Like my.

608
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 2>A very cool experience that happened was sometimes I'll have

609
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 2>mediumship dreams and they're just different than other kinds of dreams.

610
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And it was right before I woke up, and I

611
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>was in a white room and my mother came in

612
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>looking exactly as she looks, and there was like this

613
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>really young man beside her, very looking young man, and

614
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 2>he was just kind of like standing there, and my

615
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>mother gestured to him, rolled her eyes and went, this.

616
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Is your papa.

617
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 2>And then I woke up and my mom looked so

618
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>annoyed because my grandfather had decided to show up as

619
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>a twenty year old good looking man, and he actually

620
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>then was around me in order he kept nudging me.

621
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 2>He told me a family secret that I won't share here,

622
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.880
<v Speaker 2>but like very scandalous, okay. And I went to my

623
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 2>mother and I was like, do you think that this

624
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 2>is true? And she was like, I've always thought that

625
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:38.039
<v Speaker 2>that might be true. And then I spoke with him

626
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, we need to help your mother

627
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>process her anger. And so I worked with my mom

628
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 2>to process her anger. And then my papa went away,

629
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.159
<v Speaker 2>so his spirit was able to come to me as

630
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 2>a twenty year old. I could speak to him his

631
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>higher self or an expanded like my friend that passed

632
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>away that got me into mediumship. When I feel into

633
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>his energy, he feels non physical and very big, like

634
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 2>this big floating energy. Now with children I have spoken

635
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 2>to like my son, I've spoken to him as he's

636
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>come to me as like a thirty year old. I'll

637
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 2>get messages from him as a four year old. And

638
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 2>when you're receiving messages. I find this with animals. If

639
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.559
<v Speaker 2>you ask a dog questions, they're going to give you

640
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 2>dog answers. So when you're asking a child questions, they're

641
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>going to give you child like answers. But I can

642
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 2>also go, Okay, thank you so much. I'm going to

643
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 2>tap into your higher self, right, the over soul to

644
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 2>get the information that I actually need. So really anything

645
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>is possible, and I can talk to whoever. And when

646
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>speaking even to animals, I'll speak to the dog or

647
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 2>the cat, and then I'll speak to their higher self,

648
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>or even speak to your higher self, because the animal

649
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:50.719
<v Speaker 2>is an extension of you.

650
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you did my cat, which he was super sick.

651
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Cool and it helps. How How is he's a lot

652
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>better now? He's completely normal? Well, okay, there was one

653
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>thing I want to Oh yeah, so I'm in the

654
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 1>second trauma. So right now, is there like a moment

655
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 1>when you feel like the soul or like the spirit

656
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of a baby like in our Oh yes, yeah, for birth? Yes.

657
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>So it's been my understanding that the child is in

658
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 2>and out of the mother's womb of the physical body

659
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 2>up until about the age five months in utero to

660
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 2>seven months in utero. At about that time, I even

661
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 2>noticed a shift in consciousness. When I'm speaking to them,

662
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>they'll be much more expanded and almost like like they're

663
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 2>aware of what their life's going to look like and

664
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>their past lives and just that more expanded POV. And

665
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 2>then at about five to seven months, I'll feel in

666
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's like very much an infant and they have decided, Okay,

667
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to settle in here and be present and

668
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>this is my life now, and this is what I'm

669
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>committing to. And so there is that shift at about

670
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 2>five to seven months where the child will go all right,

671
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm the infant, peace out.

672
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 1>I think you said I hadn't gotten there quite yet,

673
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.679
<v Speaker 1>but it was like coming soon, like by June or something. Yeah,

674
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 1>coming soon. We'll have to reconnect and see how like, yeah,

675
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the message you're getting is completely different at that point.

676
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the whole process with working with children is so wonderful.

677
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:26.280
<v Speaker 2>And oh you had asked people coming to me when

678
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>they're in pregnancy. I've gotten people who are asking questions

679
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>about the actual birth itself, like will I be able

680
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to have a vaginal birth, will it need to be

681
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>a C section?

682
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Will I be induced?

683
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I often get what sign are they going to be?

684
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>And then with human design, I'll also get like what

685
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>human design are they? Then if there's anything health wise

686
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 2>going on with the mother during pregnancy, I can discuss that,

687
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 2>and then once their earth side, if there's any allergies.

688
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Often get asked about allergies, behavioral issues.

689
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Collic.

690
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I also play the Alchemy Crystal singing bulls and

691
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I sing with them. So with collic, it's usually something energetic.

692
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 2>They're just very sensitive to their experience. So I will

693
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 2>go in and speak to the child and help them

694
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 2>to turn down their sensitivity and teach them how to

695
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 2>turn it back up. I use my bulls to help

696
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the child there.

697
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>That's so cool.

698
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just helping them energetically to because if we're going

699
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 2>to turn down their sensitivity while they grow, I want

700
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.280
<v Speaker 2>them to be able to gradually turn it back up.

701
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 2>But I know my sister, her baby, my first niece,

702
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 2>was colic, and I tapped into her and I worked

703
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 2>with her and told her how to showed her how

704
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>to turn down that sensitivity. A week later, the collic stopped.

705
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.360
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so there's a process too. When you work

706
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 2>on something energetically, it usually takes a beat before shows

707
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.119
<v Speaker 2>up physically in the physical realm.

708
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you find that you mentioned this brievially the

709
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>topic of past lives and children having past lives with

710
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>their parents. Do you feel like that's often the case? Yes, yeah,

711
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 1>like always the case or often.

712
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it can be like a newbie, but more often

713
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>than not, we travel in the same soul groups. Ye,

714
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:25.079
<v Speaker 2>so our parents are a child will choose their parents

715
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 2>based off of what the actual connection is in past lives,

716
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 2>but then also what the parent can offer, like what

717
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 2>lessons the parent will implement for the child. So that

718
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 2>relationship is just so important and informative because the parents

719
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>are who are sculpting the child's subconscious mind and the

720
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 2>subconscious mind those belief systems that are implemented from zero

721
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.159
<v Speaker 2>to eight are what we live the rest of our

722
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 2>life by. So that role is so important because it

723
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 2>creates the belief systems we live we live by. So yes,

724
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.559
<v Speaker 2>oftentimes they're in the same soul group, so they've played

725
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 2>different roles.

726
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like for instance, like in a past life, maybe

727
00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the baby coming to you in this life used to

728
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>be your parents or like your siblings. Yes, very much

729
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>so crazy.

730
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we haven't asked your little one about that, we know.

731
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 1>I get some point as I was asking these questions,

732
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.079
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't, Yeah, I know the answer.

733
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>You should do that. The next session will do it. Yeah.

734
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to also touch upon your work as a hypnotherapist,

735
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>because we did a little bit of that too, and

736
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>that was so helpful, Like you helped me. I never

737
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>had this happen before. Like we went back in my

738
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.559
<v Speaker 1>life and I could see I was like in my

739
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.159
<v Speaker 1>body at thirty days old, and I could like, since

740
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:44.760
<v Speaker 1>my mother's and my parents' energy, yes, what like how

741
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>do you implement that into your work to use that

742
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 1>as a helpful like supplement to spirit babies, mediumship or

743
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>is that something stuff up?

744
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>It's separate but all included. I'm so grateful that I

745
00:40:55.360 --> 00:41:01.719
<v Speaker 2>found hypnotherapy because man, I did years of therapy, and

746
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 2>within six months of hypnotherapy, things had just turned around. Because,

747
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 2>like I said, from zero to eight, we're creating our

748
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 2>belief system, and in talk therapy we become conscious of

749
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the patterns, We become conscious of the things that we're doing.

750
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.840
<v Speaker 2>But then each time we come up to that decision,

751
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 2>we have to consciously make a different decision, make a

752
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 2>different decision, make a different decision, and eventually, if you've

753
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>made that decision enough times consciously, a new neural pathway forms.

754
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 2>With hypnotherapy, the neural pathway automatically forms. You just make

755
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the new decision. You don't even realize, you don't come

756
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>up to it, you just make it because the pathway

757
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:43.360
<v Speaker 2>has been formed. So with hypnotherapy, I've also learned neural

758
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 2>linguistic programming. And what you were talking about where you

759
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 2>went back to thirty days old is mental and emotional

760
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:53.639
<v Speaker 2>release therapy. So our bodies are these advanced technologies, and

761
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>when we are younger, we don't know how to process

762
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>big emotions. So if we're experiencing some kind of grief, sadness, anger, guilt, disappointment,

763
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 2>our body goes, this is too big for you. I'll

764
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>hold on to it until you're older. And so it

765
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.119
<v Speaker 2>holds on to it and it shows up for you

766
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>again and again, which is oftentimes it's like, oh, why

767
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 2>does this keep happening to me? It's because the body's like,

768
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>because you need to release me. So what I do

769
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>is I take people back to the moment, whether in

770
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 2>a past life in the womb or in early childhood

771
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:28.559
<v Speaker 2>where this big emotion was rooted. We learn about it

772
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and we process it and then it no longer needs

773
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>to show up anymore in your life.

774
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Like, we also went back to when I was

775
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>two years old, and it was just so interesting to

776
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.599
<v Speaker 1>see a memory from like now, my consciousness is like

777
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a thirty three year old yeah, and I could just

778
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it was almost like rewriting a narrative that was established

779
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.199
<v Speaker 1>at that time, like, oh, it's really not about me. Yeah,

780
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Like that hurt that I felt at two years old

781
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with me. So then I after

782
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>hypnosis in my adult body, now I don't know, it

783
00:42:57.880 --> 00:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like linger or like as much.

784
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Like for example, with myself, my father he was

785
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>building a company when I was younger, and so he

786
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:11.559
<v Speaker 2>would often leave in the morning before I got up,

787
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 2>and he would come home after I'd gone to bed,

788
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and on Sundays sometimes he'd have to go to work.

789
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And so I had this sadness in this abandonment that

790
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>was showing up. My dad was never abandoning me, but

791
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 2>that's how I processed it as a baby. So when

792
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I went back, I was like, oh, no, he was

793
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>providing for the family. He was showing up by going

794
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 2>to work. And so once I learned that I met

795
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.360
<v Speaker 2>my partner, like two weeks later because it was preventing

796
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:42.880
<v Speaker 2>me from me I was like avoidance, narcissists, abusive relationships,

797
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 2>and I was able to pinpoint it back to when

798
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I was before the age of one, when my dad

799
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>was building this company, and this wound grew and grew

800
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and grew, and as soon as I processed and was like, oh,

801
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 2>this had nothing to do with me and my dad

802
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 2>always loved me, Yeah, it just it went away. And

803
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 2>then my amazing partner came in.

804
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>With people you do hypnotherapy with, do you also get

805
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the same response, like this problem I've been having my

806
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.320
<v Speaker 1>whole life just went away. Yeah.

807
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the reason why I even went into ypnotherapy

808
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 2>is because with Mediumship, I was starting to see people's trauma,

809
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I was seeing patterns that they were experiencing over

810
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and over again, and then I would energetically lift it

811
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>off of them with a sound bath, but the issue

812
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.239
<v Speaker 2>would return like three or four months later. And so

813
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I spoke to a mentor of mine and I was like,

814
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:33.639
<v Speaker 2>why is this happening? Why isn't it permanently going away?

815
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.199
<v Speaker 2>And she said, it's because you're not creating a new

816
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:41.000
<v Speaker 2>neural pathway. You're just releasing the energy, but then because

817
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:44.719
<v Speaker 2>they're still implementing that behavior, it comes back. So then

818
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I went to school for hypnotherapy, a year long program

819
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:52.079
<v Speaker 2>at Hypnosis Motivation Institute, and I learned all of these

820
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 2>things that I am certified in to help people to

821
00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 2>process long term, it's just finished and done with.

822
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>This also goes back to just your Moon in the

823
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Ninth House's love of learning, but also like when I'm

824
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 1>sad too, love teaching. But also just like with the

825
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Moon in the Ninth House, it's like you're dealing with

826
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.119
<v Speaker 1>emotional stuff that you're learning and teaching about.

827
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, very much. I work with people who have

828
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 2>experienced really painful trauma, and I'm so grateful that they're

829
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 2>able to trust me. I also I used to say,

830
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm so lucky to have been through so many terrible

831
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.199
<v Speaker 2>things because it gave me the ability to release any

832
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of judgment. Like when someone comes to I'm like,

833
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I've dipped my toe in that, I totally got you.

834
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you need those experiences to have wisdom on those Yes. Yeah,

835
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 1>for anyone that's like wanting to tap into their psychic

836
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>abilities more in their free time, or just like have

837
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 1>an easier time navigating their life, Like how what advice

838
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:57.599
<v Speaker 1>would you give? Yeah?

839
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.679
<v Speaker 2>So, well, first I'll just I do. I teach a

840
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<v Speaker 2>twelve week program called the Attunement where I work with

841
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.239
<v Speaker 2>people one on one to help them experience their gifts,

842
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 2>and then they get certified in mediumship, channeling, and animal communication.

843
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm opening it up also to spirit baby, so we

844
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.400
<v Speaker 2>learn spirit baby communication. So that is like a full

845
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.599
<v Speaker 2>if you're like ready to go there, you'll learn so

846
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:25.519
<v Speaker 2>much information in that three month span.

847
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<v Speaker 1>Quick question, what like with animal communication, how would you

848
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.119
<v Speaker 1>like practice that I with animals?

849
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I would even with learning mediumship. Towards the

850
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.559
<v Speaker 2>last month, I bring people on, so people animals you

851
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 2>would be reading for other people. At the beginning, we

852
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 2>start with if you have any animals past or present,

853
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.960
<v Speaker 2>We'll read my animals, and then I'll start to bring

854
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 2>on people who have animals that they'd like to be

855
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 2>read for.

856
00:46:57.079 --> 00:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>So, like, is that it's kind of just like you're

857
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>reading animal's mind though? Yeah, so yes.

858
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>The way I like to do it, I can do

859
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 2>it without seeing a picture of them. All I need

860
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.039
<v Speaker 2>really is their name, because a name is so specific.

861
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Oftentimes children choose their names before they come in, but

862
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 2>pets do as well, and I'll just feel into the

863
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>energy of their name and bring in descriptions of them adjectives,

864
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:30.039
<v Speaker 2>and then messages start coming through. Oftentimes people will use photos,

865
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>so you can also use a photo where you can

866
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.679
<v Speaker 2>see the eyes of the animal. That helps connect you

867
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 2>to their soul and their presence, their essence. The same

868
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.000
<v Speaker 2>thing works for mediumship. Again, I only need a name,

869
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of people you can use objects because

870
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>past loved ones imprint their energy onto objects. So like

871
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 2>say your grandmother had a favorite piece of jewelry. If

872
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 2>you were to pick up that piece of jewelry, it

873
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.719
<v Speaker 2>would carry a lot of your grandmother's energy, which would

874
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>make it easier to tap into. I don't necessarily need that,

875
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 2>but there are some mediums who do use that, Okay.

876
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 1>And then outside of this course, like if someone were

877
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 1>to do a practice on their everyday life, would you

878
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>also recommend like that object, like holding an object.

879
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 2>What I would start doing is meditation. So meditation is

880
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.679
<v Speaker 2>a lowered brainwave state which helps you to regulate the

881
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.639
<v Speaker 2>nervous system. And in that state, it's actually the same

882
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 2>state as hypnosis. That's all hypnosis is is a lowered

883
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.960
<v Speaker 2>brainwave state. We get you into a meditative state, and

884
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:36.800
<v Speaker 2>we feed you positive suggestions based off of your vocabulary,

885
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:41.119
<v Speaker 2>because your subconscious mind understands your vocabulary, not mine. So

886
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm always writing down the words that you're saying during

887
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 2>a session. But I would ask them to meditate and

888
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 2>then start by asking what you can ask how can

889
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I be of service today? Or what are the steps

890
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 2>of God today? I believe when we go to sleep

891
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 2>every night, we go in front of our council, and

892
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 2>our council preps us on the next twenty four hours

893
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and gives us tools and kind of talking points for

894
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:12.320
<v Speaker 2>what's going to be happening for the next day. So

895
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.800
<v Speaker 2>when you wake up in the morning, especially as you're

896
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 2>coming out of sleep, because it's such as you come

897
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 2>out of sleep and as you go into sleep, it's

898
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.920
<v Speaker 2>an altered state. I've had so many weird things happen

899
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>as I go slip into state and come out of state,

900
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 2>like especially beginning to learn mediumship, like I definitely had

901
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:33.079
<v Speaker 2>like entities and like darker energies. It doesn't happen anymore,

902
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 2>but it used to.

903
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Is there a way to control your dreams and be

904
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>like because I don't know. I just feel like I've

905
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:39.559
<v Speaker 1>really random.

906
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, you can start to create lucid dreams, which is

907
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 2>where you start to realize you're in a dream while

908
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.840
<v Speaker 2>you're in the dream, which then begins helping you to

909
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:53.519
<v Speaker 2>gain control over the dream world and then also in

910
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:57.840
<v Speaker 2>waking life in turn, because this is actually just another dream. Yeah,

911
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're going from one dream waking up into another.

912
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:08.079
<v Speaker 2>And what is it. I've read Journey of Souls and

913
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.199
<v Speaker 2>is so good and one of them talked about, Oh,

914
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:16.840
<v Speaker 2>we're all just playing roles and that's really all this is.

915
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.719
<v Speaker 2>But where was I going?

916
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 1>So many thoughts I had asked you, Like, I guess

917
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>it all comes back to like what exercises? Yeah, could

918
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<v Speaker 1>people do? Practically?

919
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I would ask what are the what steps am I

920
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 2>meant to take today? And then if you're interested in mediumship,

921
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 2>start developing a relationship with different guides, different angels. So

922
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<v Speaker 2>for myself, my angel I'm Michelle. Archangel Michael would be

923
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 2>my namesake, and so I feel his energy around me

924
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 2>all the time. I would sit and just at the

925
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.679
<v Speaker 2>beginning start to feel Archangel Michael's energy, which is very

926
00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:01.639
<v Speaker 2>protective and expansive and big and bold, you could start

927
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 2>feeling energies first, whereas if you bring in, say an

928
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 2>ascended master Lakshmi, which is very known for like money.

929
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Me see, if I feel into Lakshmi's energy, it's like

930
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 2>a golden prosperous like a star, like there's like hope there,

931
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:23.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of hope. I would feel into the Oh,

932
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.039
<v Speaker 2>there's like a rebirth and almost like a phoenix kind

933
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:30.960
<v Speaker 2>of energy rising from the ashes. Very opportunity, like there's

934
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 2>opportunities at my fingertips. Feeling into that energy, I would

935
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 2>just start to like embrace her. And then once I

936
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>was embracing that energy of whoever I was calling in,

937
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I would ask what messages do you have? And trusting

938
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.159
<v Speaker 2>the subtle impressions that you're receiving. Like my clairvoyance is

939
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:50.320
<v Speaker 2>so subtle, like if I I have my eyes closed,

940
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 2>but if I blinked, I'd miss it, you know, Like

941
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like this little mini Like like the

942
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>other day when I saw a dentist, I was like,

943
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I just saw the dentist. What if

944
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't paying attention, I would miss the messages because

945
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:07.360
<v Speaker 2>they're so subtle. So oftentimes we are receiving messages. You

946
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:11.119
<v Speaker 2>might hear it, you might sense it, you might feel it,

947
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 2>you might know it, you might see it. Some people

948
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:18.920
<v Speaker 2>taste it, smell it. Some people can use their hands

949
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:23.159
<v Speaker 2>and receive all of the information by shaking someone else's hand. Interesting,

950
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.920
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I would practice by calling in an energy,

951
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:31.199
<v Speaker 2>getting to know that energy, and creating a relationship with it,

952
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and then starting to ask it questions. You can also

953
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 2>do like telepathy games. I'm so bad at these, though,

954
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 2>so I don't think it's a good hard They're so hard.

955
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:41.400
<v Speaker 2>My partner and I'll do it where I'll sit with

956
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:45.159
<v Speaker 2>him and will ask what number are you thinking of?

957
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>And he always gets it and I never do, so

958
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily think that that has to be you know,

959
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 2>different games will work for different people, But I really

960
00:52:56.239 --> 00:53:00.800
<v Speaker 2>feel that feeling into something someone's energy, even if your animal.

961
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Oftentimes it's easier to read for other people's animals because

962
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.599
<v Speaker 2>your animal is your essence, so it's sometimes hard to

963
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.800
<v Speaker 2>separate them from you. But if you were to feel

964
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.639
<v Speaker 2>into someone else's animal, you feel into their animal, their characteristics,

965
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and then just ask do you have any messages? And

966
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 2>wait to see what you're sensing. Beginning to trust. Trusting

967
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.039
<v Speaker 2>yourself is one of the most important keys to intuition.

968
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:27.960
<v Speaker 1>What I've found off on exercise is to like ask

969
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.760
<v Speaker 1>my dad or someone like if they know someone that's died.

970
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Then I have no idea who this person is, and

971
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I just write down. I like, ask that person that

972
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 1>has died, like, do you have a message for my

973
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:41.280
<v Speaker 1>dad or whoever's whoever the connection is, And I just

974
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:44.159
<v Speaker 1>write down what comes to mind because I don't know

975
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.679
<v Speaker 1>this person at all, and they have validate it through

976
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 1>the person that actually knew them.

977
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a great way to go. Yeah, I did

978
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that at the beginning. Before I would have sessions for Taro.

979
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I would just get mediumship stuff like what are the

980
00:53:57.519 --> 00:53:59.480
<v Speaker 2>messages that they need to receive? And this was out

981
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:03.000
<v Speaker 2>without trying. I mean I'd had like intuition, but I

982
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 2>wasn't certified. But I would write down like a bunch

983
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:08.159
<v Speaker 2>of notes and then I'd pop on it and I'd

984
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 2>read them the notes and they were accurate for the

985
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>person I was reading. So then you begin to trust yourself.

986
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:18.639
<v Speaker 2>And if you can start out with trusting yourself, that

987
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 2>would be ideal.

988
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like even for an astrology reading, I'll be like,

989
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:23.880
<v Speaker 1>what does this person need to know? And then sometimes

990
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:25.639
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make sense. But after the reading, I go

991
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:27.920
<v Speaker 1>back and I'm like, wow, we actually talked about.

992
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 2>That, Yes, and that's something that I learned. It's not

993
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 2>your responsibility to judge the information that's coming forward. Now

994
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't share bad information.

995
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Usually.

996
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, this was really cool. At the very beginning, I

997
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 2>was giving someone a reading and I was told he

998
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 2>needed to go to the doctor, and so I didn't

999
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.000
<v Speaker 2>want to scare him. I didn't want to create any

1000
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:50.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of fear base, but I was just like, so,

1001
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 2>when's the last time you went to the doctor. And

1002
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I just said, well, I think that maybe getting an

1003
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:59.400
<v Speaker 2>annual checkup would be great. And I got a message

1004
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.400
<v Speaker 2>back from him and he said he had cancer and

1005
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:05.360
<v Speaker 2>they caught it early enough that he was free and clear.

1006
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

1007
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I've gotten that for the dentist before one

1008
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:11.800
<v Speaker 2>of my clients. I was like, you know, you need

1009
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:12.599
<v Speaker 2>to go the dentist.

1010
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>And she went and the.

1011
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Dentist was like, oh, you have the beginning of a cavity.

1012
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.480
<v Speaker 2>How did you even know to come in? And she's like,

1013
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 2>my psychicked on me.

1014
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 1>You're wacky exactly.

1015
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think one day, I mean, this will be

1016
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 2>a very accepted modality.

1017
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:34.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, the beginning of it. Yeah, I

1018
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 1>really hope. So, well, this is amazing talking to you.

1019
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I could hear of all these stories like for so long. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can people find you? Michelle?

1021
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:46.079
<v Speaker 2>So I have my my two companies, Victim to Victor,

1022
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:50.440
<v Speaker 2>which you can find Michelle Vasil dot com or Mother's

1023
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Intuition dot co. If you're on Instagram, you can either

1024
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:57.800
<v Speaker 2>find me on Michelle Vasil or Mother's Intuition underscore co.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure thing will be tagged.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll put everything in the show notes because it's

1027
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of words.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, if you just look up Michelle Vasil v easy

1029
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I LJ, you'll be able to find me and I will.

1030
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Show you where to go.

1031
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.840
<v Speaker 2>But anyone who lets me know that they came from

1032
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.440
<v Speaker 2>this podcast, I'll give a gifted rate.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, of course, Well, thank you, thank you, Alice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad we were able to do this. Me too.