WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:08.400 This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:18.399 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book five, The Butcher's Masquerade, chapters 3 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:24.760 twenty five through twenty nine. In these chapters, Carl and 4 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:30.280 Donut participate in a raid on Fort Freedom. I believe 5 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:34.200 that's what it's called. I expected this to be more 6 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:41.439 of an obstacle, and it's just not at all. That's 7 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:44.479 there's a lot of ancillary stuff, but like that was 8 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:46.399 the thing that I think stuck with me the most 9 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.200 was I thought this would be harder. That's what she said. 10 00:00:50.479 --> 00:01:12.200 Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. I 11 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:16.599 am Natasha. Thank you very much to Jackie for commissioning 12 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:21.439 this episode. So I'm just going to start at the 13 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:27.959 beginning here because I need some direction there. This is 14 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:35.439 like this section, it's a bit muddy in every sense 15 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:40.400 of the word. So let's just start first of all 16 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:54.159 with Samantha and her proposition for signet. You guys, my 17 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:58.400 favorite thing about this is the fact that Carl doesn't 18 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:02.599 even say anything. He just starts laughing because like it's 19 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:08.919 so patently absurd, and Samantha just seems utterly confident that 20 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.800 this is gonna go the way that she wants. The 21 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:19.280 plan is I take your body over, which will of 22 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:23.960 course kill you, but you'll have the satisfaction of knowing 23 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:29.280 that I'm alive and doing my thing on your behalf 24 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:38.360 in your body. Remarkable, Frankly, I mean when I was 25 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:42.400 thinking about, like, oh, she can help me, I don't 26 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:46.879 even know that I gave it enough thought what that meant. 27 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:48.879 And I'm not sure if any of you out there 28 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:54.520 listening had your own theories already or not, but I 29 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.960 like it was. I think she had. Samantha had specifically 30 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:02.000 said something about like she can help me get my 31 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.240 body back, or she can help give me a body 32 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:09.280 or something like that, but I honestly I don't remember. 33 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:11.360 I just feel like I remember her saying she can 34 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:14.759 help me, and uh, sorry about that. That's my that's 35 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:19.039 my dog's caller being very loud. But I just fully 36 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:23.639 expected it to be something where she can like put 37 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.479 me in touch with a person who knows the kind 38 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.520 of magic that can do a thing, or she can 39 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.759 like grant me a favor with her magic that does 40 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:35.680 you know the idea of it just being like I'm 41 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:39.280 gonna fully take your body over and you'll be fine 42 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:42.120 with that, right, of course, this is what it is. 43 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:44.680 And of course Samantha just doesn't see what the big 44 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:48.599 deal is or why. And it makes me so sad because, like, 45 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:51.400 as Donut says later, Carl is sort of like, I 46 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:55.800 wonder what she's even the goddess of, And Donuts says, 47 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:59.560 she's the goddess of unrequited love? And Carl, how do 48 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.960 you know that? And she says, because I asked Carl, 49 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.919 Which it's just another great illustration of like, in a 50 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:12.479 lot of ways, how self absorbed Carl is. It's he's 51 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:19.040 just so constantly zeroed in on what matters to him 52 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:23.279 and his own plan, and he has a real blind 53 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:29.959 spot when it comes to seeing other people as like 54 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:37.000 fully capable, trustworthy, or competent or able to come up 55 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.680 with their own ideas. You know, Like he's just run 56 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.240 into this with donat a number of times now where 57 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.160 he hasn't included her in the plan and then is 58 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.480 like genuinely surprised Pikachu face when she doesn't go well, 59 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:52.000 and it's like you're not even treating her like she's 60 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.720 part of this. So the fact that he hasn't even 61 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:59.519 thought to ask Samantha, what she is goddess of or 62 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:04.040 really anything about herself. It's sort of reminding me of 63 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:09.000 the way things were initially with Katchya as well. Donut 64 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:15.079 engages with other people, and it's part of what works 65 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:21.399 for her charisma. It's the act of asking questions, being 66 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:30.000 genuinely interested in the answers, and responding with more questions 67 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.240 because you are indicating to a person that what they 68 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:37.279 are saying matters to you, you know, And it's just 69 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:42.399 a really like there is something about this that really 70 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:47.240 rings true for me in terms of my evolution as 71 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.160 a person, because I used to be very much like Carl, 72 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:55.240 where I just didn't really engage with people and I 73 00:05:55.319 --> 00:06:01.319 found it difficult to give a shit sometimes, And you know, 74 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:04.160 I mean, like, if I'm being real, it's like a 75 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:07.839 weird thing. Especially as a person who has a lot 76 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.519 of empathy, you wouldn't think that this would be such 77 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:15.959 a stumbling block. But empathy and really caring about the 78 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:20.399 details of other people's lives are not really the same thing. 79 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:24.319 Like I can want you to not suffer, I can 80 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.560 want you to get everything that you need as a person, 81 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:32.439 but also not really want to hear about your vacation 82 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:37.279 or go to your birthday party or whatever. And I 83 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:41.199 really lived in this place where other people in large 84 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:46.079 par often I just wasn't very interested. And I've kind 85 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.199 of turned a corner at some point in my life 86 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.600 where I've become much better at being interested in other 87 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:55.199 people and engaging with them. And so my husband, who 88 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.279 is still very much in a lot of ways in 89 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:59.720 the headspace that I used to be in, and the 90 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:03.120 way that he kind of just refuses to engage or 91 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:08.759 is very difficult to engage, it stands out a lot 92 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.199 more to me than it used to. And I start 93 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:15.360 to realize just like I was like this, you know, 94 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:19.560 And I don't really know when the change in me 95 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:25.319 began to occur, But no amount of telling me that 96 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.319 you should care about what's going on in their lives 97 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.680 would have done anything. It was something that I had 98 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:35.519 to eventually just begin to give a shit on my own. 99 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:39.480 I just don't think that anyone pointing it out that 100 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:44.279 it would have helped or made any difference whatsoever in 101 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.720 my attitude. I think it's just something that happens, like 102 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:52.879 as you get older, you just start to hopefully if 103 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:57.079 you're like learning lessons. I think you begin to grow 104 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.360 less self absorbed because you are simply experienced and seeing 105 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.240 more of life and beginning to understand the variety of 106 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:08.720 experiences that are out there. So anyway, it's you know, 107 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.399 you see this all the time in different like scenes 108 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:14.360 with Dona where she's just like, so, what's going on 109 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:17.319 with your hair? You know, and like, yeah, it can 110 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:20.759 be a joke, it can be treated as just a punchline, 111 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:26.199 but she's actually like still talking with them and asking them, 112 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:31.600 And that's kind of part of what's like, even if 113 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.039 it is a joke, you're noticing someone and seeing them, 114 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.919 and even if they can sense that you're doing it 115 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.480 in a joky way, as long as you're not being 116 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.720 like demeaning about it, I don't think a lot of 117 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.519 folks are really going to react badly to that, you know. 118 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:55.360 So anyway, I just think it's nice how well characterized 119 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:59.919 they both are. That we can see very specific moments 120 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.600 that I like that I feel are so in character 121 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:10.120 in so many different instances and settings and moments in conversation, 122 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:18.679 and it's just consistent every time. So anyway Holger is talking, 123 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:24.000 they start talking about like this this guy who got 124 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:30.120 zapped by a spell that he cast too close to 125 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.360 the tree. He says, the fools used a lightning attack 126 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:38.960 near the all tree, which I was glad that immediately 127 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.600 ava targets brought up, because if I'm not mistaken, it's 128 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:47.840 called the all tree in that too, right, they're not 129 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:50.799 wrong about that, Feel free to correct me, guys. But 130 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:59.159 I really could swear. And evidently, if you cast a 131 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:04.240 spell against a person who has like the forest in 132 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:11.799 their blood, and they are standing within like a few 133 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.039 hundred yards, I think it's like fairly far out. I'm 134 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:17.879 trying to let's see a few hundred meters, so like, yeah, 135 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:23.559 pretty much, if you cast a spell against them, the 136 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:28.919 trees will absorb the attack and then send it back 137 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:35.960 out at you, and it evidently kills the outcropping of trees, 138 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:40.399 but they come back. It takes a few months. So 139 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:47.039 I appreciated that as like a sort of ceiling to 140 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:51.559 how the because it would be one thing if it's 141 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:55.600 like it affords unending protection and nobody can cast a 142 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:58.639 spell near you at all if you're buy one of 143 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:02.759 these trees, that would be a little bit too overpowered. 144 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.519 But the fact that it can only they defend you 145 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.159 the once and then it's got a very long kind 146 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:16.320 of cool down period. I like a lot. And Carl 147 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.200 notes that, like, this has to be a new addition, 148 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:25.399 because the hunters wouldn't be so stupid as to do 149 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:29.519 this right near this tree if they had run into 150 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:33.080 these trees before. So this has got to just be 151 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:36.399 something that they have come up with this season in particular. 152 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:45.840 And I am like anytime that there is something that 153 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:55.000 feels different than previous years, I am my antenna are 154 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.720 starting to go up a little bit. And like, I 155 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:02.600 recognize that every time this happens, it's not necessarily going 156 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.919 to be significant at all. There are just we're going 157 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:07.759 to change things up to keep it interesting. We're going 158 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.879 to change things up because like you need to keep 159 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.759 your viewers engaged and keep them guessing, you know. So 160 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:19.080 I'm not trying to attribute too much meaning. I am 161 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:23.240 just noting it and sort of filing it away mentally 162 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.679 so that if something else turns up a little later 163 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:31.519 that makes me go, hmm, I'll remember, yeah, and then 164 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:34.279 there was this too, Because there is a part of 165 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:39.879 me that is sort of suspecting is too strong a word, 166 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:45.759 but is sort of wondering, is there anything about the 167 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:50.720 changes that feel like they're leaning toward attempting to help 168 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.759 crawlers in a specific way or fuck with them in 169 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:59.720 a specific way. There's just a lot that I feel 170 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.639 and be clues to things later, and I am trying 171 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:09.519 to keep track of it all. So there's the mention 172 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:13.120 also like donut asks if it also protects the high 173 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.360 elbs even though they're the bad guys, and Clint is 174 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.759 like bad or good doesn't matter. The trees aren't smart. 175 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.799 They just sense that if you have forest blood or not, 176 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:27.159 and they respond the way they respond. So it has 177 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:29.679 nothing to do with taking sides. It's just about you 178 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:35.320 being kind of part of them, which makes total sense 179 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.679 to me. So there were three of these guys that 180 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:41.919 came in, and two of them got zapped by that 181 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:49.159 repeat spell, and the other is still alive and being 182 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:54.000 saved by Signet for the sacrifice for her own spell 183 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:59.120 to work. So the first corpse they come across is 184 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:06.080 Hunter the talent. I am asking a lot of questions 185 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:10.039 as I'm reading this about how their names work, because 186 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:15.200 there's a whole conversation later that Dona is having with 187 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:20.639 Carl about the naming conventions for these people and the 188 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:24.039 fact that like it. You know, if you're naming her 189 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:29.200 future Hunter or future Huntress or whatever, that you know 190 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:32.039 you're setting her up for a life that goes in 191 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:36.240 a certain direction. And I really it wasn't until they 192 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:40.039 started talking about it in this way that it even 193 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:43.240 occurred to me that these were their real names. I 194 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.720 was fully treating all of this like they were their 195 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:53.440 user names and not their actual given names. I thought 196 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:58.399 given names were for the crawlers, you know, like it. 197 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:02.240 Just like I said, it just never entered my mind, 198 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:05.840 not even for a moment. So I'm very curious about 199 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:08.120 y'all and if you thought the same thing. And I 200 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.240 don't know if it's just because of the fact that, 201 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.799 like I'm so used to things being sort of video gamy, 202 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:17.879 but the idea that this guy is actually named the 203 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:26.480 Talent is wild to me. So Carl goes to loot 204 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:32.840 the talent, and he's got seventy five thousand pieces of 205 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:37.240 gold on him, which is way more than anybody else 206 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:39.960 they have ever come across. And then when they love 207 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:45.840 the next corpse, that person has no money. So I 208 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:51.519 don't I feel like this has to mean something. Maybe 209 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:53.720 this guy was supposed to be sort of in charge 210 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.480 of their party and the leader, you know. He mentions 211 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:02.720 later about how like these guys are the leaders, are 212 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:08.120 given the best gear out of everything. But I kind 213 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.320 of feel like there's got to be more to it 214 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:13.759 than that. I just don't know what it is. I mean, 215 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.039 the idea of like, oh, maybe they were specifically paid 216 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:23.480 to come after these two, well, like, of course we 217 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:27.320 already know that that people are being paid to come 218 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:31.120 in and take on taking these two down. We've already 219 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.799 run into that with that other hunter, So that's not 220 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.279 even really a revelation of any kind. And I don't 221 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:38.759 think that would be what's going on here because that's 222 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:44.080 not like a surprise. So I don't know what this means, 223 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:49.879 but I feel like it means something. Dona also says 224 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:53.120 that this guy has some kind of credit shit and 225 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:54.960 we need to go buy something with it before they 226 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.799 cancel it. And I am very curious how much attention 227 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:02.919 they're paying and whether or not they see when this 228 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.960 thing goes into their possession, and or if this is 229 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:11.839 some kind of trap, because like, the thing about the 230 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.480 setup here, as we find out when we talk to Future, 231 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.880 is that these guys were given first crack on purpose. 232 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:23.480 Like Carl asserts, they knew you'd fail, that's why you 233 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.319 were allowed to do this, And it's sort of like 234 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:29.559 a pitiful moment because she just doesn't even argue and 235 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.279 instantly begins to sort of deflate and knows that he 236 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.200 is right. And there's a strong sense of I knew that, 237 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:42.039 I just hoped you wouldn't figure it out. But I 238 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:48.319 just like was wondering if these guys are being set 239 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.880 up to go first because everybody knows that you'll fail. 240 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.319 Is it possible that you're being loaded down with stuff 241 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:59.640 to fuck our friends up on purpose? That doesn't look harmful. 242 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:04.359 Carl is doing this very careful looting method in order 243 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.640 to avoid booby traps and stuff like what he did 244 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:14.920 to Maggie May. But if they know Carl did that himself, 245 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:18.160 then they might be wise to the fact that he 246 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:20.920 is going to be looking for that, and so they'll 247 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.480 find a new and exciting way to booby trap him 248 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:30.559 and something like this might work. I don't know, I genuinely, 249 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:35.160 it's like because of the way that they are able 250 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:38.480 to cheat, it's hard to know. We had that whole 251 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.839 other like catapult thing in the last chapters that had 252 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:47.000 bits of like, you know, they were clearly techn there 253 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:51.039 was clearly technology attached to it that did more than 254 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:54.359 anything this dungeon is supposed to have in it. And 255 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:59.960 I don't ah the a card like this, it could 256 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:04.880 very well be booby trapped in some way and technically 257 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:07.240 be a cheat, and not even something that I would 258 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:09.400 have been able to predict because of the fact that 259 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:13.160 they are going outside of the parameters on purpose. So 260 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:16.240 I guess what I'm saying is we'll just have to 261 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:25.599 wait and see and let's see. Oh right, this has 262 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:30.440 When Samantha I guys the way that she approaches her, 263 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:36.000 I gotta say, I love the bear breasts. It's good 264 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:42.119 a bold statement. There's something about the it's good. It 265 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:44.119 was just such a funny way to say it. And 266 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:47.000 this whole thing again, the narrator with this voice, he 267 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:51.319 does such a great job, and she's like, you know, 268 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:53.599 I experimented with women for a little bit, and I 269 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:57.240 gotta saying you fine, And then of course has to 270 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:01.920 like circle it back with the guy that I'm into 271 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:08.160 really likespresss like yours. King Blaine loves some perky like 272 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.640 that not too big, just perfect. He's sure to stop 273 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:16.279 banging my mother once he sees my new body. Can 274 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:23.279 you imagine? Can you imagine? There is a book that 275 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:32.200 is often posted under There's a fantastic Facebook page, and 276 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:36.839 I think she also does Instagram called Uppity Negress, and 277 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:39.960 she is a black woman who does a lot of 278 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:44.319 social commentary stuff and in her comments she will always 279 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:47.799 post a link to a book she wrote. I think 280 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:53.680 it's called Decentering Men, and it's just basically the assertion 281 00:20:54.200 --> 00:21:00.880 correct assertion, in my opinion, that women are social to 282 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:05.559 center men in everything, and that learning to detect that 283 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:11.920 in yourself is a major reprogramming of your brain and 284 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:15.519 low key like a life skill that needs to be learned. 285 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:20.000 This is a book that I think Samantha could really 286 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:25.000 use because evidently pretty much everything she does is about 287 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.039 trying to find her way back to King Blaine. And 288 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:28.880 this man is not worth it, and no man is 289 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:30.759 worth it, and if he's fucking your mother, you just 290 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.559 better turn around and walk away or I just can 291 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:39.519 never respect you again. And obviously like sing that, there's 292 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:42.000 no question of course she's not doing this, and she 293 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:46.559 tries to tell Samantha, I'll find a way to give 294 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:50.000 you back your body once we're done with our thing, 295 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:55.920 And as Carl puts it, it's painfully obvious that she 296 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:01.160 has no intention whatsoever of helping Samantha. And Samantha's not 297 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:05.759 a fucking idiot, and she knows this, But she doesn't 298 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:09.640 really have other options, so she's going with it and 299 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:15.160 agreeing to assist them on simply the off chance that 300 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:21.759 maybe there is something that Signet can do. And that's 301 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:25.759 just a very sad position to be in it. It's 302 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:30.160 like the idea that I literally have no better options 303 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:32.920 than even though I can see right through you and 304 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:38.599 tell almost immediately that you are less than uninterested in 305 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:43.200 helping me. What am I supposed to do? Like? Go where? 306 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:47.160 Do what? Talk to who? Of course you're like the 307 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:50.519 only option I have. What a shitty spot to be in. 308 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:54.839 I really like, as absurd as Samantha is being here, 309 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:56.799 there was a part of me that still felt like 310 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:01.960 bad for her, you know what I'm saying. And but 311 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:09.240 she's like participating in all of this with a good attitude, 312 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:11.880 I will say later on, because as much as she's 313 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:17.440 grumbling about it, for the most part, she's pretty like 314 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:25.519 still fully going all in. And I sort of wondered 315 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:30.680 if knowing that maybe Signet is like not being honest 316 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:34.359 would cause her to get very half hearted about it all, 317 00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:40.200 and that's not really what happens. So I'm sorry. I 318 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.279 just saw the chat. Eduardo and Sarah im are here. 319 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:51.839 Hello to you both. Yay. So the trap skill that 320 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:55.400 Carl has, he uses that to detect traps around them, 321 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:02.440 and there's a moment where it loves up and the 322 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:06.599 whole place lights up like crazy, and he sees that 323 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:14.559 there are even more than he had realized, and let's see. Oh, 324 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.440 there's a conversation between him and Signet where she says, 325 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.759 if they just waited, they would have gained control anyway, 326 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:22.960 and they wouldn't have had to kill my mother because 327 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.839 I think actually she was considering stepping down based on 328 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:30.960 some things that my mother said before she died. And 329 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:39.160 the curse that she's got regarding whether like water can 330 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:43.440 touch her at all or anything is getting Carl's attention 331 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.839 in this scene because she's crying, but the tears aren't 332 00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:50.720 actually touching her skin, and then when she turns her 333 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:56.079 head they fly off like there's like really strong centrifugal 334 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:02.200 force or something. The Naiad Kingdom wasn't very big the 335 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:06.559 Naiad people had fallen to anarchy. The Usurpers occupied the castle, 336 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:09.599 no longer maintaining it or the kingdom. They were so 337 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.240 obsessed with the idea of being free that they lost 338 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:14.799 sight of what it meant to actually run a government. 339 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:17.400 Like with most of these stories and quests, this is 340 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:20.119 probably some bullshit political cartoon and they were making a 341 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:26.240 statement about something I didn't care and yeah, definitely, definitely 342 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:34.200 about something. So they make this plan and Signet is 343 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:39.960 going to use Samantha as a distraction. Carl is going 344 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:45.119 to be strapping one of those sound alarm thingies that 345 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:49.000 plays a song to Samantha's head and chucking it to 346 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:53.440 distract them. And once we get into this later, it 347 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:56.200 becomes pretty clear they probably didn't even need to put 348 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.440 as much thought into this as they did, because everything 349 00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:03.799 is so organized and in such poor repair that they 350 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.039 were on the verge of just losing the castle by 351 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.559 fucking default anyway. But first we have to deal with 352 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.920 future huntress of the Skull Empire, who tries to say 353 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.279 that they can't kill her because then the Skull Empire 354 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.640 will hunt them down, and Donat is like, sweetie, do 355 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:24.759 you think that if we don't kill you. They'll leave 356 00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:32.240 us alone. Is that what you're trying to say? And they, 357 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:35.720 you know. She tries to then be like, but if 358 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:40.079 you keep me alive, then the uh what do you 359 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:44.519 call thems? The mantises they aren't going to have the 360 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.079 right to come in here yet, so keeping me alive 361 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:55.400 keeps you from being attacked by them. And then as 362 00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:57.319 Carl is like, all right, I want you to heal 363 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:03.160 her so that I can do my thing, he says, please, 364 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.880 you can't do this. I'm a real person, not a 365 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:16.319 crawler or an NPC. I'm a real person. And it 366 00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:21.200 gets interrupted this moment with the announcement that one of 367 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:27.079 the top ten crawlers has fallen. But if it hadn't, 368 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:33.039 I wonder what Carl would have said in that moment, 369 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:43.319 because the idea that you would try to appeal to 370 00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:50.000 a crawler by saying I'm not like you, I'm a 371 00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:56.480 real person is so fucking badshit. And the thing about 372 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:02.960 it is that this is not un unbelievable, you know 373 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:07.000 what I'm saying. There are plenty of people out there 374 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:13.160 who would absolutely say some shit like this and be 375 00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:18.599 genuinely like, I don't understand why you're offended. They wouldn't 376 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:23.160 see it, they wouldn't get it. It wouldn't like so 377 00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:29.279 I like, what I am thinking in this scene is 378 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.920 my instinct is were I going to write the scene, 379 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:39.039 I would write it as something like I'm a real person, 380 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.480 I'm not a crawler. And then she catches herself and 381 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:47.799 she stops and realizes what she said. But the thing is, 382 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:56.119 I would write this as a person who assumes other 383 00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.400 people at least have some kind of basic self awareness 384 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.559 that they just have to trigger somehow. And the way 385 00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.920 that Matt Dennman is writing this is people don't have that. 386 00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.119 Even like it's not even about like we need to 387 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.799 access this awareness. There's no way to access it if 388 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:22.400 they don't have it. And they don't And it really 389 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.880 took me off guard for a moment. I was like, 390 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.359 there was a split second of me going, this doesn't 391 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:34.599 feel real, and then a second later I was like, no, 392 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.359 this is. You see this every day? You see this 393 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.279 every day? What do you mean? There are so many 394 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.160 people out there who even are part of a particular group, 395 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:49.079 but they choose to like hold themselves as outside of 396 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.240 it for whatever reason and behave is if they're not 397 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.359 part of that group, and you see the results of 398 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.880 that all over the place, especially in the United States 399 00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:02.400 with this latest election and how there are folks who 400 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.160 voted for Trump, but they were themselves on social services 401 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.559