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<v Speaker 1>In this league.

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<v Speaker 2>Presents the NFL Draft Prospect podcast Bug Chug It Football.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your host, Scott Bogmin. Welcome back to the war room.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody and your host Scott Bogman. Follow me on the

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter app bog and Swords. I'm joined as always by

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<v Speaker 2>my friend oh c K at c op I E

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<v Speaker 2>p s on the Twitter machine. And today we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about the linebacker prospects for this class. Linebackers today,

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<v Speaker 2>DB's tomorrow and then Draft on Thursday. Everything is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be ready for you. We do have a discussion that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We recorded our episode of Defensive Lineman on Saturday, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe fifteen minutes after we had shut off the mics

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew I was gonna post that show on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>Dexter Lawrence got traded to Cincinnati. So let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the impact of that trade before we dive in on

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<v Speaker 2>the linebackers. Here c K since he gets up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the best interior defender in the league, which I hate obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>but good move for them. I didn't like the one

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<v Speaker 2>year extension of twenty million. If you're going to trade

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<v Speaker 2>a top ten pick to the Giants, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>trade to get out of this class. Like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>this was a very good move by the Bengals overall.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was weird that they limped at the extension.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully they get a better one than that down the

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<v Speaker 2>road here. But now the Giants have two top ten picks,

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<v Speaker 2>So if Jeremiah Love gets to them, he's definitely going

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<v Speaker 2>with that first pick.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, yeah, I think he goes to the

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<v Speaker 3>in the first pick. I also think don't be surprised

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<v Speaker 3>if Kanen McDonald goes in the top ten. We talked

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<v Speaker 3>about Kaden McDonald a lot like that they had to

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<v Speaker 3>replace Dexter Laurence. I mean we said it, we speculated

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<v Speaker 3>on Dexter Lauren's trade. I think you said, I said Vegas,

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<v Speaker 3>You said Vegas. One of us said the charger or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. And then he went to Cincinnati here

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<v Speaker 3>for just pick ten. But it was already a bad

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<v Speaker 3>room in the interior before that, and now they have

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<v Speaker 3>it's just Roy Robertson Harris and friends in there, so

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to get something in the interior. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Aiden McDonald makes a lot of sense there. I also

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<v Speaker 3>completely agree that one year, twenty eight million dollar extension

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<v Speaker 3>is odd. I guess it appeases Dexter Lawrence for now

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<v Speaker 3>and has him show up to all of the offseason work.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is like the if you're building a fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>team like Scrubs and Studs approach, we are spending so

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<v Speaker 3>much of our cap on Joe Burrow, T Higgins, Jamar Chase,

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<v Speaker 3>and Dexter Lawrence. If you're a Bengals fan, like that

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<v Speaker 3>is a ton of cap space devoted to just four

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<v Speaker 3>awesome players.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>But filling out the rest of your roster, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to nail some of these draft picks, and you just

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<v Speaker 3>gave up one of them, because that's that's tough when

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<v Speaker 3>you're playing so much to just four players.

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<v Speaker 1>But I get why the Bengals did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I would have been the one who

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to necessarily pull a PI trade for a top

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<v Speaker 3>pick for Dexter Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>But improves their defense for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have picks five, ten, and thirty seven, but

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<v Speaker 2>no third round pick, so their picks drop from thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven to one oh five. So maybe they could get

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<v Speaker 2>a defensive tackle at thirty seven, but there's very few

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<v Speaker 2>in this class, as we mentioned in the last episode, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the first rounders that we had according to Monk Draft

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<v Speaker 2>data base were just Peter Woods and Kate McDonald and

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<v Speaker 2>they were in twenty eight and thirty right, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>very low. The second round had also only three guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Caleb Banks. Maybe he slips down there, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be That would be killer, dude if they got

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<v Speaker 2>If they got like VPA BPA, which I'm assuming is

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<v Speaker 2>love and then a defensive player or a wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they were able to get Caleb Banks at

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven would be awesome. Christian Miller might be down

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<v Speaker 2>there to Lee Hunter, and then you know after that

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<v Speaker 2>it's Big Citrus, Grayson Halton, Daryl Jackson. Too high for

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven. So yeah, I mean maybe Kateen McDonald. That

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<v Speaker 2>they should do is they should trade back again with

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<v Speaker 2>that ten overall pick. If somebody wants to come up there,

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<v Speaker 2>but not a great class, so who wants to come

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<v Speaker 2>up to ten. Maybe Caleb Downs is selling the board,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe something like that, someone would want to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he's selling the board, they should take him.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, now that would help him with a lot too,

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<v Speaker 3>So good for the Giants going to control the draft here,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about some linebackers, and you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a shorter show on the linebackers. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not nearly as many. Let's go over who needs linebackers first,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have these split up into a couple I

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<v Speaker 2>think four categories. Guy could upgrade both starters. Every starter

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<v Speaker 2>need an upgrade at at least one spot, then need depth,

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<v Speaker 2>and then teams that are all good at linebacker, Actually

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<v Speaker 2>have your boys all good at linebacker. You've got say,

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<v Speaker 2>you're Franklin, Edrean Cooper, Isaiah McDuffie, Tyron Hooper, Nicknamon, and

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Welsh like and it's only McDuffie as a free

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<v Speaker 2>agent of the guys that are even rotational there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Packers are actually all good at linebacker, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been a while, and it's been a while

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<v Speaker 3>they they worked at that one. Theedrick Cooper one was

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<v Speaker 3>a big hit. So that was a good starting point there.

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<v Speaker 2>The other teams that I have that are all good

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<v Speaker 2>at linebacker, Chicago's got Devin Bush, TJ Edwards, Marco Jackson, Nosool,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Sanborn, and I don't know why I put so

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<v Speaker 2>Nephew Sool. I just got the name doubled up here Denver,

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Singleton, Justine Strand, Drew Sanders, Jordan Turner, Karen Reid.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're okay. Maybe they need a little depth there. Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>They signed Walker in Nacobe Dean, they saw Tommy Eikenberg

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<v Speaker 2>and Cody Lindenberg. So I think they're okay. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think Philly is all right with even though they did

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<v Speaker 2>let Nacobe Dean go. But Zack Bond, Jahad Campbell, Smile London,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jeremiah Charter Junior. I think they're doing okay at

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<v Speaker 2>linebacker any disagreements on those.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting to see Vegas on here because going in

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<v Speaker 3>that would have been maybe their biggest need. But green Bay, Vegas,

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<v Speaker 3>and Philadelphia all tied together here to Kobe Dean going

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<v Speaker 3>to Vegas and way Walker going to Vegas from Green

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<v Speaker 3>Bay and Philadelphia. But we still like the plans, the

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<v Speaker 3>replacements they had in place with g Hid Campbell and

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<v Speaker 3>then the Packers making them move for Zyar Franklin.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I don't think I can disagree with any

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Chicago if Devin Bush like gets hurt again or

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<v Speaker 2>just like reverts back to the meme, maybe them, But

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're okay. The teams that I have the

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<v Speaker 2>need depth, not a ton here. I have Cleveland because

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<v Speaker 2>Ulo Shioh the guy from Buffalo, a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 2>think it's doing okay with Bolton and Tranquill, but Trent

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<v Speaker 2>Quill's a free agent, so it's Jeffrey Bossa, Chack Cochrane,

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<v Speaker 2>Cole Christiansen after him, and I have New England here

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<v Speaker 2>after Splain it's everyone's a free agent. Next year it's

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<v Speaker 2>Christianella's Chad mouvemak kJ Britt and then New Orleans. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know New Orleans I have it, just need depth.

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<v Speaker 2>They could also replace both starters, I guess if you wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>But Pete Warner and Kate and nellis grated pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>They spent a pick on Stutsman last year, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think their top three are pretty good. They have Stallburn

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<v Speaker 2>and four there as well. Disagree with any of those

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<v Speaker 2>in need depth.

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<v Speaker 3>I would maybe just move I would maybe move New

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<v Speaker 3>England up because Christianallis doesn't necessarily always he plays like

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<v Speaker 3>this hybrid linebacker edge role anyway, so he's not always

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<v Speaker 3>just playing linebacker. So it's really just Big Bob's Blayne

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<v Speaker 3>and Chad Muma and Splain's awesome. Christian Ellis if he's

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<v Speaker 3>just playing a traditional linebacker, I guess it's fine that

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<v Speaker 3>New Orleans. I'm just not a Pete Werner guy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not my dude, But yeah, he's he is fine for

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<v Speaker 3>what he is, and it is a perfectly average player.

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<v Speaker 1>And they can say that about a lot of their guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I mean, I think Cleveland for sure nailed

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<v Speaker 3>the Carson s question for pick. Congratulations to them, but

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<v Speaker 3>you got to have a replacement just in case something

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<v Speaker 3>happens to Carson Spushner and Quincy Williams and it is

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<v Speaker 3>not Nathaniel Watson. I like Nathaniel Watson, but he's he's

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<v Speaker 3>more special teams than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want him on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>End defense agreed. Then there's I have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>teams that need and upgrade at at least one spot,

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll go to them in chunks here. Let's start

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<v Speaker 2>with Baltimore, Carolina, Detroit and Jacksonville as your top four

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<v Speaker 2>rokwand but next to him it's either Teddy Buchanan or

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<v Speaker 2>Trenton Simpson. Carolina did sign Devin Lloyd, but behind him

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<v Speaker 2>it's Trevon Wallace Claude and Cherless Van Martin Scott. It's ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit has Jack Campbell, Malcolm Rodriguez and Damon Clark, the

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<v Speaker 2>only three on the roster. All are free agents next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Kaiser. The Chargers have Henley and Pairman played well

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<v Speaker 2>last year and they still have Junior Colson, but Henley

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<v Speaker 2>Impairman are both UFA's next year. Troy Die also a

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<v Speaker 2>those teams. I think I added the Chargers in there,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was five. But so what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on these teams and who is the most desperate for

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's got to be Baltimore Roquan's the man,

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<v Speaker 3>but Trenton Simpson just has not developed anything close to

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<v Speaker 3>what we thought was possible with him. And Teddy Buchanan

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<v Speaker 3>was a fine pick as far as a upside shot,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess towards the end of the draft last year.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't want to start him on a starting

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<v Speaker 3>NFL defense at this point. So I would say Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 3>which I'm sure is music to your ears.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville coming up with a lot of needs sneaking.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of like that, Carol Carolina. I might Treva

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<v Speaker 3>Walsh just can't cover. He's a great tackle player who

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<v Speaker 3>just cannot cover a lick at all at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>The Chargers Kyle Lewis, Yeah, exactly, the Chargers Junior Colson.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought we would see him. He just never

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<v Speaker 3>Hardball selected him, and it's just never developed.

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<v Speaker 2>His own guy who led the defense at Michigan when

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<v Speaker 2>they won the Natty, and he can't get on the fields.

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy get on the field, So until we see it,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't trust that he's any good at it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I like Diane Henley, but Denzil Paraman again is just

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<v Speaker 3>They have one skill. They can either really good tackler

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<v Speaker 3>or they can cover or whatever. They're just not well

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think let's.

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<v Speaker 2>See a couple more teams here. I think we have

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<v Speaker 2>like nine more teams. But Miami is Jordan Brooks, Tyrol Dotson,

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<v Speaker 2>have the Giants here as well. They did sign Tremaine Edmonds,

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<v Speaker 2>but Michael McFadden wasn't good. Say your bonds is behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both free agents after this season. The Jets, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Sherwood who's been really solid. I know they like

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<v Speaker 2>the Morio Davis is like my age, so that's not

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<v Speaker 2>very good. And then my Steelers, Patrick Queen's a freegent,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say of those it's probably the Jets. Jamien

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<v Speaker 3>five as far as linebacker is concerned. But behind Jamian Sherwood, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Tomorow Davis is fine, but he fits. There's absolutely no

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<v Speaker 3>and probably not even the next season after that, and

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<v Speaker 3>by then Tomorrio Davis is Maybe he's still good at

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<v Speaker 3>that point, but I'd be pretty shocked if he's not

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<v Speaker 3>out of the NFL in two years. Miami, they just

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<v Speaker 3>find themselves on this list all the time. Jordan Brooks

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<v Speaker 3>is an okay defender. But beyond that, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>he's also for agent after this year. Got to start

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<v Speaker 3>a plan on there. Ivan Pace is really regressed after

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<v Speaker 3>that initial season to the point where he looks more

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<v Speaker 3>like a special teams player for Minnesota and Blake Cashman,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, getting along in the tooth and you're guys

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<v Speaker 3>like you're you're a Steelers fan. You tell me, are

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<v Speaker 3>you happy with what you got out of Patrick Queen?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. No. He was playing better to start the

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<v Speaker 2>year and then went right back to playing like garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've had enough of Patrick Queen. I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked if they released him before the season started. And

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<v Speaker 2>but a tell to that would be, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>they take c J. Allen, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they take a linebacker with that first pick

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<v Speaker 2>or a second pick, I think Queen is gone. Our boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Erickson just he told me today he put a

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen to one ticket on the Steelers to draft a

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<v Speaker 2>linebacker in the first round, So not bad. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be if. I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a guard, So we'll see. But yeah, they definitely need something.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love Peyton Wilson, but the dude has had

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<v Speaker 2>issue staying on the field. Seattle, Ernest Jones, Drake Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>Tyrese Knight. I would say they're all fine, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>just no impact there really. San Francisco, it's Fred Warner

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody. I mean, it's de Winters and Dray Greenlaw

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<v Speaker 2>the corpse of dra green Law, and they're both for

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<v Speaker 2>agents after this season. Tatum Bethune after him, Luke Gifford.

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<v Speaker 2>They tried all these guys last year when Warner went down.

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<v Speaker 2>None of them work, so they need extra. They need

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<v Speaker 2>at least one linebacker in this class. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>defensive needs for the Niners. My god, they have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>next to Bosa the interior. The defensive line is terrible

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<v Speaker 2>and they have one linebacker. So the secondary might be

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<v Speaker 2>the best part of this team. And this is the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I know, our boy the Welsh bitched about

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<v Speaker 2>so much was the secondary going into last year, and

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like that might be the best part of

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<v Speaker 2>the team. Tampa Bay they have Alex Angelone and they

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<v Speaker 2>sign They did also sign Christian rose Boom. It was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a you don't want him the start, But

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the same about Savassi A Dennis. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want him to start anymore, so they definitely need one.

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<v Speaker 2>And in Tennessee, Ceder Gray was great, Cody Barton was not.

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<v Speaker 2>Cody Barton seems to have like just maybe lost to

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<v Speaker 2>step He wasn't the linebacker for a long time. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's just getting a little bit older here. And then

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<v Speaker 2>behind them it's Deabdi and James Williams and Dorian malse

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just not no, not very good. So Seattle,

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco, Tampa Bay, Tennessee, who's most desperate?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you healed it with San Francisco, they are very

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<v Speaker 3>desperate on anything to stop the run.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we've been saying in a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>Stop the run, and it's the line combined with the

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<v Speaker 3>linebackers behind the Fred Warner is still the man, but

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<v Speaker 3>he can't do it all by himself. And when he

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<v Speaker 3>does try to do it all by himself is when

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<v Speaker 3>he gets nicked up and then he misses games. And

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<v Speaker 3>Tampa Bay adding Alex Anzelo and helped because we've been

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Tampa Bay's linebacker room for a while as

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<v Speaker 3>far as being bad, and maybe we hear if Levante

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<v Speaker 3>David just said he's he's retired.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, he's done.

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<v Speaker 3>How a press conference the whole thing, he's done otherwise,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, he could always sign light and come back.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he's done, he's done. And we've never seen.

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<v Speaker 3>The hope has always been that Servasi Dennis would be

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<v Speaker 3>a step up and done it, and we've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>So alex An's alone not good enough to just step

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<v Speaker 3>in and replace Levante David. I kind of hope Tednessy

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<v Speaker 3>just takes advantage of the fact that they got Cedric Gray,

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<v Speaker 3>and they get him like a CJ. Allen if he's

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<v Speaker 3>there in early in the second round, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>how we build this team, Like let's get to lockdown

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<v Speaker 3>linebackers and and we've got a couple of pass rushers.

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<v Speaker 3>We get one early there with David Bailey.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's go in with the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>And but you know, I'm not in charge of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but CedarA Gray looked awesome, and I kind of hope

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<v Speaker 3>they build in give him some help.

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<v Speaker 1>Next to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if they took

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<v Speaker 2>Sonny Styles, to be honest with Yeah, Yeah, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprising at all. And then these aren't even the

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<v Speaker 2>teams that need a linebacker the most, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of teams that have real big

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<v Speaker 2>gans a linebacker Arizona could replace Cody Simon and Mack Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>So behind them is Jack Gibbons. So they have guys

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<v Speaker 2>with the experience that have played before. But it's ugly

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta as Christian Harris, to Vine Diablo, Troy Anderson, j

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<v Speaker 2>t bertrand Channing tendall all below average, not the starting

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<v Speaker 2>guys that you want. Buffalo Treil Bernard was awful last

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<v Speaker 2>year and behind him it's Dring Williams and Joe Andresen

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<v Speaker 2>for Cincy Dimitrice Night, Barrett Carter are young. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they addressed this position, you know, quickly. We know

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<v Speaker 2>they don't do it a number because they traded it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think they do this quickly. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's probably gonna be Night in Barack Carter again.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully they just improve because they're young players. Indy really

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<v Speaker 2>bad here, probably the worst in the league, honestly, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a king. Davis Skather, Austin Ashiake, Jalen Carlais, John bullet.

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<v Speaker 2>It is disgusting, one of their biggest needs, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a first round pick. Nicoles have to get

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<v Speaker 2>a linebacker. Dallas. I love de Demarvian Overshown, but he

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<v Speaker 2>came off a huge injury. He was fine. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he will get better and be acceptable, but he's a

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<v Speaker 2>free agent after this year. So it's just Shamar James

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<v Speaker 2>and Justin Barron on the roster right now, and he

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<v Speaker 2>just bodies. I don't particularly like either the Rams guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They graded well. Spates was good, but he's a free

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<v Speaker 2>agent after this year. Nate Landman, I maybe he graded fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I just watched it the wrong time. Every time

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<v Speaker 2>I watched Nate Landman, he's missing a tackle and getting

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<v Speaker 2>torched the passing game, So I don't know how he

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<v Speaker 2>graded so high. I watched a lot of Rams football

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<v Speaker 2>down the stretch and he was terrible, so maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>was hurting the playoffs. Maybe that was it, but he

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<v Speaker 2>played bad. And then Houston Henry Toyota's He's all share

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<v Speaker 2>still good linebackers, so is hej Speed. But everybody's a

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<v Speaker 2>free agent on this roster except for J Kummell, a

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<v Speaker 2>special teamer in EJ. Speed, so obviously Houston can address

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<v Speaker 2>that position as well. So any disagree with and who

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<v Speaker 2>needs a linebacker the most here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who needs win the most? I mean I think you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's I maybe would move Dallas ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>Indianapolis just because until over shown is proves that he

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<v Speaker 3>is fully healthy like has so thin man. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>Samar James steppin last year and he got a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of tackles, but he was he couldn't stop the tight

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<v Speaker 3>end to save his life, like he was just constantly

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<v Speaker 3>getting roasted across the middle of the field, it felt like.

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<v Speaker 3>And because of that, I think Dallas might be ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of Indianapolis. Indianapolis is really bad though too. Cincinnati's young players.

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<v Speaker 1>Did not work.

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<v Speaker 3>But you just said they don't really have a replacement

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<v Speaker 3>or Burks was not good last year either. I Houston,

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume they're going to try to do everything

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<v Speaker 3>they can to bring back because he's all shy here

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<v Speaker 3>in henry to too, but if one of them left,

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<v Speaker 3>they can fill that in. They're taking advantage of the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they have such an amazing defensive line in

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<v Speaker 3>front of them that their guys just flow free to

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<v Speaker 3>the ball so easily. Arizona. They should never have to

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<v Speaker 3>start Cody Simon. That should not be happening already. Mack

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<v Speaker 3>Wilson was out of position last year. Mac Wilson two

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<v Speaker 3>years ago looked really good and then they moved him

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<v Speaker 3>last year and it did not work at all. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope they kind of go back on that. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think Trel Bernard. I liked Trel Bernard about a year

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<v Speaker 3>and a half ago, and then it was a pectoral

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<v Speaker 3>injury followed by a shoulder injury, and he just does

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<v Speaker 3>not look anything like the same player that he used

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<v Speaker 3>to be. So I'm Buffalo's defense cannot stop the run.

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<v Speaker 3>That is how you beat Buffalo as you run the

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<v Speaker 3>ball on the gut on them and their linebackers can't

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<v Speaker 3>tackle you. So you get six yards consistently and you

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<v Speaker 3>just keep picking up six yards and Josh Allen doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>get the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And looking at tackle grades, by the way, is the

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<v Speaker 2>Cardinals were dead last tackle Simon Conny Simon Buffalo since Vegas,

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders, the Jets, the Saints, Cowboys, Dolphins, Eagles right

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<v Speaker 3>Here Eagles are surprising that one is surprising, is you

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<v Speaker 3>know one pretty good. Some of the worst teams in

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<v Speaker 3>the league for a reason, like you can't get the

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<v Speaker 3>guy in the ground, it's hard to get off the

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, the Cowboys sitting down here, I think in

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season, I think the Cowboys might have been

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<v Speaker 2>dead last let me just double because that's with not.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember how sad they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember it was like the first six or seven weeks

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<v Speaker 3>they were on pace to be the Carolina Panthers from

416
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<v Speaker 3>the year before, historically bad defense, when they were giving

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<v Speaker 3>up yards and chunks.

418
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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, nothing can beat just giving up the most

419
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<v Speaker 2>rushing yards in NFL history like the Panthers did. So sad.

420
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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, look I'm sorry that I think I

421
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<v Speaker 2>cut you off. Did you finish your point? My bad?

422
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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, we're good, We're good.

423
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, So that is who needs a linebacker?

424
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<v Speaker 2>And I gotta say this, man, this is going to

425
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<v Speaker 2>be a better linebacker class this year than next year.

426
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<v Speaker 2>I think because next year I was looking at the

427
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<v Speaker 2>prospect of Sanmy Brown at number twenty four and then

428
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<v Speaker 2>at number fifty seven, it's wit weeks. Number sixty four

429
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<v Speaker 2>is Arian Carter from Tennessee. We have Perkins from all

430
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<v Speaker 2>miss who's more of an edge like I, it's not good.

431
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<v Speaker 3>This is the best group of linebackers though, that I

432
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<v Speaker 3>think since we started doing the show together, which is

433
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know three four, if we've been doing this now,

434
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<v Speaker 3>I think this is the best group of linebakers that

435
00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:39.640
<v Speaker 3>we've had. And it's just definitely with there's going to

436
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<v Speaker 3>be much more top end talent in it, and I

437
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<v Speaker 3>actually think it is kind of deep too. So yeah,

438
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<v Speaker 3>this is a really good linebacker class and it will

439
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<v Speaker 3>be better than next year.

440
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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure. Well, let's start.

441
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<v Speaker 2>We only have one in the first round, but he

442
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<v Speaker 2>is a top ten player. Number six is Sunny Styles

443
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<v Speaker 2>for Sunday Styles, I've got He's a freaks list. Before

444
00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:57.480
<v Speaker 2>he even crushed the combine, he breaks down the play,

445
00:20:57.559 --> 00:20:59.319
<v Speaker 2>gets everyone in the right spot. He should wear the

446
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<v Speaker 2>green Doc Quick two point two percent mistackled percentage is

447
00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:06.920
<v Speaker 2>the lowest of any linebacker in this class. He missed

448
00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:10.799
<v Speaker 2>two tackles in twenty twenty five. That is it. The

449
00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:13.720
<v Speaker 2>only weakness is allowing an eighty five percent completion rate

450
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:17.440
<v Speaker 2>when targeted in twenty twenty five. He may, you know,

451
00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of weird to see him around the ball

452
00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:24.200
<v Speaker 2>and not forcing as many turnovers as maybe he should,

453
00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:27.759
<v Speaker 2>so that those would be the downsides. But instinctual linebacker

454
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<v Speaker 2>are going to be the leader of your defense. I

455
00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.279
<v Speaker 2>am super excited to see where he lands. Love to

456
00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.359
<v Speaker 2>see him go to Tennessee. He's going to stack tackles

457
00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:36.079
<v Speaker 2>like crazy there.

458
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's actually my top player. He's been my top

459
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<v Speaker 3>player for a while now. As far as I'm the

460
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<v Speaker 3>regular big board, he is number one. He is going

461
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<v Speaker 3>to be a twenty one year old rookie who has

462
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<v Speaker 3>two thousand college snaps at Ohio State, which is crazy

463
00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:48.880
<v Speaker 3>to think that that he is going to be that young.

464
00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:50.960
<v Speaker 3>He's already play two thousand snaps. He was a safety,

465
00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:54.519
<v Speaker 3>they transitioned him to linebacker. He is attacking downhill and

466
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<v Speaker 3>he is looking to like. Yes, he is a very

467
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<v Speaker 3>good wrap up tackler who does not miss tackles, but

468
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<v Speaker 3>it is not just he's just getting to the ground.

469
00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:02.920
<v Speaker 3>He will hit you like you feel him coming. But

470
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<v Speaker 3>for me, it is just an amazing feel for coverage.

471
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<v Speaker 3>On top of being a great tackler like there is,

472
00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:10.920
<v Speaker 3>he is so good at passing players off into when

473
00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:13.359
<v Speaker 3>they're sitting in zone. He can run with tight ends

474
00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:15.960
<v Speaker 3>they will ask him to spy. Tom On Williams is

475
00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.240
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback for Washington who is a very quick quarterback

476
00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.119
<v Speaker 3>like there is times where he had the edge and

477
00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.039
<v Speaker 3>Sonny Styles chases him down because he is an athletically

478
00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:23.759
<v Speaker 3>gifted freak.

479
00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>He proved it again at the combine.

480
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<v Speaker 3>I think he is the safest linebacker prospect that we've

481
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<v Speaker 3>had in at least five years. I don't see how

482
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<v Speaker 3>Sonny Styles isn't dropping into the NFL anywhere in any

483
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<v Speaker 3>scheme and be a.

484
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<v Speaker 1>All pro level player.

485
00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:40.200
<v Speaker 3>I expect he will be that from day one and

486
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<v Speaker 3>should be a one of the best linebackers in the

487
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<v Speaker 3>league for a long time to come.

488
00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Agreed, Just so good. Now, it's a pretty big drop

489
00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:51.319
<v Speaker 2>off between Sunny Styles and the next group of linebackers,

490
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<v Speaker 2>the second rounders. But we have a lot in the

491
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<v Speaker 2>second round. Let's start with cjll from Georgia. Fast and

492
00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Rangy doesn't bite on fakes, really finds and sticks the

493
00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.200
<v Speaker 2>running back and run dye and keeps his eyes on

494
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the runner as he sheds blocks. Team captain personality and

495
00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:12.119
<v Speaker 2>coaches pet zero penalties and sixteen hundred and ten snaps

496
00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.440
<v Speaker 2>is crazy. To think of weaknesses. Coverage, he's in the

497
00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.160
<v Speaker 2>wrong spot more often than you like. Blitzing effort is there,

498
00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:21.279
<v Speaker 2>but he needs to work at shedding those offensive linemen

499
00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:22.680
<v Speaker 2>a little bit better. And he did have a knee

500
00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:24.640
<v Speaker 2>clean up in November, but he only missed one game.

501
00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:28.279
<v Speaker 2>So CJ. Allen also a very, very good linebacker. They're

502
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:30.640
<v Speaker 2>just going to drop in and play for one of

503
00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.640
<v Speaker 2>these linebacker spots that we were talking about before for

504
00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.440
<v Speaker 2>a long time. I mean, you put him in Arizona,

505
00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:36.799
<v Speaker 2>he's the best linebacker today.

506
00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that'd be a great fit for him because

507
00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:40.599
<v Speaker 1>they need someone. What CJ.

508
00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Allen is is not He's not the gifted athlete that's

509
00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:45.400
<v Speaker 3>any styles is. He's fine, He's not that good of

510
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.119
<v Speaker 3>an athlete. But he is just incredibly smart. He is

511
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.640
<v Speaker 3>calling off the defenses on Georgia. He is the one

512
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.240
<v Speaker 3>who is lining up everybody. He is a step ahead

513
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:55.599
<v Speaker 3>of everyone else on the field, gets all over the field.

514
00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:58.559
<v Speaker 3>He can play sideline to sideline power to take down anybody.

515
00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.400
<v Speaker 3>They will drop him in his own coverage. They don't

516
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:02.880
<v Speaker 3>really use him in man. I think that's a little

517
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:04.200
<v Speaker 3>bit of a difference too. And you know, I said

518
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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to compare in to Sunny Styles because

519
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:07.559
<v Speaker 3>it's really not I have c J. Allen in his

520
00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.599
<v Speaker 3>own tier, which is like orderline Round one, early round two,

521
00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.079
<v Speaker 3>but it's not the same player Sonny Styles, not even close.

522
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.079
<v Speaker 3>But I do think CJ. Allen is kind of what

523
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.759
<v Speaker 3>kway Walker would be if he wasn't a head case.

524
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.279
<v Speaker 3>Just someone who gets all over the field and can

525
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.319
<v Speaker 3>make a lot of tackles without any of the off

526
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.640
<v Speaker 3>field concerns. So because of that, you know, I would

527
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<v Speaker 3>be your team you mentioned. I think could take a

528
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:31.720
<v Speaker 3>linebacker man possibly like at that level and back of

529
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.519
<v Speaker 3>the after pick twenty somewhere's between twenty and thirty five

530
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:35.880
<v Speaker 3>is where I would be comfortable with c J.

531
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Allen. Yeah, and if they do take CJ. Allen, Patrick

532
00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Quinn's gonna be somewhere else because there's plenty of linebacker needs.

533
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.559
<v Speaker 2>So we will see at number forty four Jacob Rodriguez

534
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:49.480
<v Speaker 2>from Texas Tech. Average size with incredible production. Jay rod

535
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:52.960
<v Speaker 2>has incredible instincts and he's always run the ball and

536
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.799
<v Speaker 2>gets it with the force fumble in interceptions. Team captain attitude.

537
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Downside is he doesn't have recovery speed if he misses,

538
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.200
<v Speaker 2>and he does miss forty two missed tackles in the

539
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>last two seasons. He can fail to pick up a

540
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:07.839
<v Speaker 2>blocker on occasion when he's keeping his eyes on the

541
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:10.039
<v Speaker 2>ball carrier and get wiped out of a play. So

542
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, production is incredible, Instincts are incredible. Size and

543
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:17.599
<v Speaker 2>speed are the questions with him and the angles he takes.

544
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>He needs to get a little bit better fundies in

545
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>those tackles.

546
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:25.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's relentless, understand spatially where to be at all times.

547
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 3>His coverage drops, I thought got better as the season

548
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:28.240
<v Speaker 3>went on. I thought early in the year he was

549
00:25:28.279 --> 00:25:30.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of a limitation as far as the coverage player,

550
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:31.559
<v Speaker 3>But I thought he got better at that as the

551
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.319
<v Speaker 3>year went on. The punching ability, the ability to get

552
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 3>to the football is and it's special. We haven't seen

553
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:39.759
<v Speaker 3>players that can do that in a long time. And

554
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:41.799
<v Speaker 3>towards the end of the year, I think he was

555
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 3>maybe focusing on a little bit too much on that.

556
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.279
<v Speaker 3>And you see him just you mentioned the tackling. He

557
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.640
<v Speaker 3>dives a lot. He's diving at people's feet and that's

558
00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:51.640
<v Speaker 3>a that's an athleticism and size thing, right, He's diving

559
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:53.759
<v Speaker 3>at feet you see him in like L. J. Martin,

560
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 3>he's doing that at Adam Randall. But he's just got

561
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 3>a sixth sense where to be. He almost never bites

562
00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:01.720
<v Speaker 3>on play action fail. He knows where to be. He

563
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:03.920
<v Speaker 3>is not number three for me. I have him at

564
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.640
<v Speaker 3>number four, but that's a again, that's like right around

565
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 3>pick forty to sixty. That's a guy where I have

566
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Jacob Bradriguez going. And I think you'd be happy, like

567
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 3>I think anybody should be happy with if you your

568
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 3>team draft Jacob Bradriguez, I think you should be happy

569
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 3>with it. He's a very good player with some limitations

570
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.119
<v Speaker 3>as far as athleticism is concerned. But in the second round,

571
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.039
<v Speaker 3>third round, somewhere in there, Yeah, he's gonna be a

572
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:25.119
<v Speaker 3>really good player.

573
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:26.839
<v Speaker 2>I think. Yeah. I think he'll be like a team

574
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:27.799
<v Speaker 2>captain pretty quick.

575
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:28.559
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

576
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>He's either it's gonna be one of two things. Either

577
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna be he's a team captain, a perennial pro bowler,

578
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>or he's gonna be out of league like real quick.

579
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I think there's not a lot of middle ground on Rodriguez.

580
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:42.119
<v Speaker 2>My boy Anthony Hill Junior, number forty eight here. I

581
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>know he's your number three. Covers so much ground because

582
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.319
<v Speaker 2>he's fast and twitchy, blitz as well, and it's big

583
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.480
<v Speaker 2>enough to run over blockers if he builds up steam.

584
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>He did have an issue tackling, but he did cut

585
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>it down the senior season as well. Eighteen miss tackles

586
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.119
<v Speaker 2>at twenty four, only three, and he will go after

587
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.599
<v Speaker 2>the ball when the ballcarrier is loose with it. The

588
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>downside is that he is sometimes in the wrong place,

589
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 2>which pushes him completely out of the play. I have

590
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 2>many afternoons been screaming in this room, where the hell

591
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 2>are you Anthony? On that one? And he takes some

592
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 2>bad angles. Like I said, senior year much better, but

593
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 2>that junior year, good lord, he took some bad angles.

594
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 2>He really worked On't though a lot of upside, but

595
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 2>just a blitzing linebacker if his instincts don't get better.

596
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Kind of a Frankie Luvu type of a guy. So

597
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts on Anthony Hill? And he's your

598
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 2>number three, above Jacob Rodriguez, he.

599
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 3>Is number five. Actually we'll have another one that's still

600
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 3>ahead him. He is number five. And it's a lot

601
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 3>of stuff you're talking about I just have this is

602
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 3>he's not getting enough depth on his zone drops, which

603
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 3>allows people to hit some easy throws in the middle

604
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.200
<v Speaker 3>of the field, takes a few false steps with play action.

605
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:52.960
<v Speaker 3>He plays better in this one, but there are a

606
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 3>lot of reps where he's just not in the right place.

607
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:56.039
<v Speaker 3>Those are some of the notes I have against like

608
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Georgia and Oklahoma. And it's yes, I can see all

609
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 3>of the upside, Like, if you want to talk about upside,

610
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:04.200
<v Speaker 3>he has way more upside than Jacob Rodriguez. He might

611
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 3>probably have more physical upside than ce Jyllen, but cee

612
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Jal's right where he's supposed to be. Jaobradriguez is right

613
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 3>where they're sposed to be right now. Anthony Hill is

614
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 3>a disruptive player who is maybe a little too manic,

615
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 3>and because of that, he's not always in the right place.

616
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Now he knows like that when they started their NFL.

617
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Career, Sure, yes, and he's turned into a great player,

618
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, shout out the hopefully he's great. Yeah, he

619
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 3>was great, And I'm not saying you can get that

620
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 3>with Anthony Hill again. I just because he's five, I'd

621
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.319
<v Speaker 3>be perfectly happy to take him any pick after pick forty.

622
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 3>But I do think that there is some Whereas the

623
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 3>floor is safer with Jacob Radriguez, I think there's way

624
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 3>more upside with Anthony Hill. You just got to understand

625
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 3>that right now, he is not a coverage player.

626
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<v Speaker 2>He is.

627
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.119
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned he can blitz, i'd be I have g

628
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<v Speaker 1>Hot Hamble.

629
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<v Speaker 3>Down as someone who went early, but they also used

630
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 3>him kind of like a hybrid edge linebacker player at

631
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<v Speaker 3>this point, and that's probably the best fit that I

632
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<v Speaker 3>see right now for Anthony Hill.

633
00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>But he's still very young.

634
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.480
<v Speaker 3>He can get and I think he will, but I

635
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 3>have someone that I would be well comfortable taking ahead

636
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:06.039
<v Speaker 3>of him yet.

637
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>And number fifty four we have Jake Golday from Cincinnati,

638
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>moved from edge iNTS on linebacker because of his lean frame,

639
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>but has the speed to make all the plays at linebacker.

640
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 2>He sheds blocks well from his edge play and wraps

641
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>and drives when he tackles. His instincts are still work

642
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 2>in progress, especially in coverage, and or might not be.

643
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>He might have maxed out his frame at two forty ish,

644
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 2>which we'll probably get lighter as the season goes on

645
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 2>as well. So you know, Jake Golday a very good athlete,

646
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of learning the position still, but lots of upside

647
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>here for a guy like this.

648
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 3>So they used him out of position too, right, Like

649
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.559
<v Speaker 3>if you watch Jake Goldie, they're playing him as like

650
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:46.880
<v Speaker 3>slot cornerback half the time, and it's like this is

651
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>not this is not his best fit at all. And

652
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>because of that, I think Jake Golda is going to

653
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 3>be a better NFL player than he looks on tape.

654
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Now.

655
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:57.119
<v Speaker 3>He bites on play action, but he's incredibly faster player

656
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.200
<v Speaker 3>of his size. He will run players down like his

657
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 3>I talk about how we don't see a lot of

658
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.880
<v Speaker 3>man cover drops. They're telling him a lot of times

659
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 3>cover a cold wid wide receiver, cover a running back,

660
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.599
<v Speaker 3>and he does it. They used him off the edges

661
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 3>of Blitzer a lot, and he has the bend to

662
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:14.359
<v Speaker 3>play out there they play My dude is essentially just

663
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 3>great at shedding blocks and there's a lot of times

664
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:18.440
<v Speaker 3>like you see guards running at him and he just

665
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.119
<v Speaker 3>throws him out of the way because he's really good

666
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 3>at that. But he's also manipulated by quarterback eyes. At

667
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>this point, I like Golda. He is number six for me,

668
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 3>but that is still with a clear day two grade.

669
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Number sixty four. I think this is I know you've

670
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>talked of Josiah Trotter. Sury is my guest best run

671
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 2>stopper among this linebacker class, with incredible instincts to fire

672
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.359
<v Speaker 2>and shed and move through blocks, and he works well

673
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 2>blitzing because of the same instincts there. His speed is great.

674
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 2>The downside is a lack of instincts on passing place

675
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>at all. Allowed an eighty eight point five percent completion

676
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>rate in college. Fifty three of sixty targets were caught

677
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>against him, zero pass block, pass breakups, and one interception.

678
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 2>And I was trying to find it last night to

679
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>look it up. I couldn't find where his pick was

680
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>when I was looking through some of his stats. It

681
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 2>was in twenty twenty four. I know that, but I

682
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>couldn't find it on YouTube or whatever. But Trotter is

683
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna come like this. This is who the Niners need.

684
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 2>They need this guy so bad to come in and

685
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>help stop the run because he will immediately make an

686
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 2>impact there.

687
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Joseh Trotter's number three for me, and I might

688
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 3>be being kind of a hypocrite because a lot of

689
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that you just said is perfectly accurate. It's

690
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>the same things I was just saying about Anthony Hill.

691
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 3>But I just think there is a much more refined

692
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>tackler in Josiah Trotter at this point. And yes, his

693
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.480
<v Speaker 3>coverage is not good either, but he is so good

694
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.920
<v Speaker 3>at getting players to the ground. The only player that

695
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 3>I would say is better at slipping blocks in this

696
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>class is r bel Reese as far as here are

697
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 3>times where people are squaring him up and he is

698
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 3>just awesome at slipping blockers and then shucking blockers and

699
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.200
<v Speaker 3>knocking black blockers and then he's showing flexibilit But he

700
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 3>did duck under interior offensive lineman and still make the

701
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 3>tackle on the ballcarrier only a chord sophomore. I was

702
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 3>really surprised he came out, but he I get it,

703
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I think he'll go day too. I think he

704
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 3>could have been in the top fifteen if he had

705
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 3>come out next season. There's just a lot of space struggles,

706
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 3>and that's what it is. He's just struggling in space

707
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>right now. But I think he just had a birthday

708
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 3>last week, just during turn twenty one. Like I can

709
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>live with that, right, I can live with that. He

710
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 3>is a what we all wanted Jeremiah Trotter junior to be.

711
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of hype on Jeremiah Trotter junior.

712
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 3>Josiah Trotter so much better than that. Jeremi Trotter felt

713
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 3>around three. This is the one who apparently watched his

714
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 3>dad play linebacker because he looks like a linebacker. He's

715
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.759
<v Speaker 3>calling all coverages. He is the one that I want,

716
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:42.680
<v Speaker 3>and he is my number three. But I said, I'm

717
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 3>kind of a hypocrite because I agree with yourself on

718
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 3>the coverage. It's not good right now, but I think

719
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 3>he can get better.

720
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.519
<v Speaker 2>I have I'd have him ahead of gold Day, but

721
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I would have him behind Anthony. I'll just Anthony Hill's

722
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 2>a little bit bigger. I think his speed is a

723
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 2>little bit better too. So we'll see number seventy three.

724
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Kyle lewis from Pittsburgh in the third round and the

725
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.359
<v Speaker 2>only third round linebacker. Kind of surprising that I think

726
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 2>we'll see more go by the way, but because of

727
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 2>the needs that we just listed, I think they're gonna

728
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>get pushed up a little bit. But Kyle lewis great

729
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>rangy linebacker that is undersized and has undersized guy problems.

730
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Can cover sideline the sideline now Doozy said, no one

731
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 2>watches more tape than Lewis. He's a strong blitzer, a

732
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Jim Ratt. All of his problems are size related, it seems,

733
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>gets washed away by blockers, he misses tackles, he can

734
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>get boxed out in coverage, and he might not last

735
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 2>forever because of that size. But I mean, if you

736
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>want a dog for the next four or five seasons,

737
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Lewis is gonna be that dude. He's gonna be

738
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's gonna be a killer in special teams.

739
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be killer when he's on the field. He's

740
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 2>just a little light. So really like this guy. I

741
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>think he's gonna be a starter for you know, at

742
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:51.759
<v Speaker 2>least a decent amount.

743
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 3>The coverage ability is incredible, but it's also because he's

744
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.640
<v Speaker 3>the size of safety who's playing linebacker. And that's that's

745
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 3>really what you're getting here is the whatever you want

746
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 3>to call it now, star defender, overhang defender. He is

747
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 3>not a tradition. Every place that we talked about to

748
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 3>this point is a traditional linebacker. They are Rokwan Smith,

749
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, they're Edred Cooper.

750
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Whatever. Kyle Lewis is not. That's just not what he's

751
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 1>going to play in there.

752
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 3>He will drop down into the box like James Williams

753
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>did or some of those bigger safety smaller linebacker players.

754
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 3>He can cover tight ends, he can cover running backs,

755
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Manda Man gets sideline a sideline with like elite athleticism,

756
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 3>but he takes some angles that don't really work. There's

757
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 3>gonna be questions as to what how does he actually

758
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 3>fit in the NFL.

759
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 1>There's going to be teams that.

760
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:36.239
<v Speaker 3>I probably don't even consider taking Kyle Lewis unless they're

761
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 3>going to take him at a safety.

762
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 1>But you watch him, you're like, man, this guy's really good.

763
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>He's really good.

764
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:44.239
<v Speaker 3>But there's just some questions as to what his role is.

765
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 3>And because of that, I have him right here, actually

766
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.480
<v Speaker 3>brought those famous out. We have him at seven overall

767
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 3>among linebackers, and for him, it's it's firmly round three.

768
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 3>It's day two, but it's round three. I would not

769
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:58.840
<v Speaker 3>take Kyle Lewis in the top sixty picks just unless

770
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 3>your team has a per perfect plan in place for him.

771
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 3>That's just not the role that he fix in.

772
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 2>He waged two twenty at the combine, and that's when

773
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 2>you drink a gallon of water and eat a bunch

774
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 2>of pizza or whatever the night before, you know what

775
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean. So he's probably playing at two ten, maybe

776
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.679
<v Speaker 2>even less than that, So I'm with you. Like the

777
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>size limitations definitely cap his upside, but he is a

778
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 2>perfect prospect outside of that. So the fourth round has

779
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.639
<v Speaker 2>three guys here into the one hundred lost in from Alabama.

780
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Very high floor player and limited upside. Knowing where to

781
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>be is his superpower in my opinion. He's always around

782
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the ball. He has above average speed and change the direction,

783
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.119
<v Speaker 2>but plays faster. Usually a solid tackler, but a bit

784
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>undersize and can be shrugged off if he goes high.

785
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Lack of recovery speed if he does allow, if he

786
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 2>does miss or allow a catch might lead to some

787
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 2>big plays at the next levels. What I have for

788
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 2>loss and what are your thoughts on Deontey lost him

789
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 2>for Bama?

790
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 3>So he's not this high for me. I actually have

791
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 3>another Alabama linebacker even ahead of him.

792
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>He is number what is he like fifteen? For me

793
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 1>here it's just such a boring profile. Man. This is

794
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>like timy Eikenberg. And if you're happy with Tommy Eikenberg.

795
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Go for it.

796
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.000
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty, But I don't want to spend a third

797
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 3>round pick on a player who's perfectly okay and can

798
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 3>fill in.

799
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>But I just thought he didn't look nearly as good

800
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>this year.

801
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 3>He came off of and he towards ACL at the

802
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 3>end of twenty twenty four, and I thought he just

803
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 3>looked real slow at times this season.

804
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>But when he gets you, when he hits you, you

805
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>go down.

806
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 3>I will say that. But he's not a big time athlete.

807
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 3>He's an okay as a cover player, but he's just

808
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 3>physically limited, and I'm not sure that he's ever Maybe,

809
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe another year and moved from the ACL,

810
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 3>he can look a little bit more athletic like you

811
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 3>did in twenty twenty four. Because I have some note

812
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 3>time against my Leonora Seller's in twenty twenty four where

813
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 3>I thought, oh, he looked pretty good. He's holding his

814
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 3>own against him. But this year he did not look

815
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.159
<v Speaker 3>like the same player to me. So I have him

816
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 3>quite a bit lower than this.

817
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have him for this group. I would have

818
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>him at the bottom of it as well. Like I

819
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>do think that he could go into some of these

820
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 2>scenarios like next to Rokwan. Fine, you know you don't

821
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 2>have to have all the instincts. Just do your job,

822
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Put him extra Jack Amble,

823
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be okay, you know what I mean, Just

824
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:03.840
<v Speaker 2>do your job. Put him next to a star. I

825
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>think he'll be all right. But I would rather have

826
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Kayshawn Elliott from Arizona State rocked up and is great

827
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.639
<v Speaker 2>at chasing down the ball carrier, a green doc guy,

828
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 2>coaches rave about his personality and work ethic. He's another

829
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.239
<v Speaker 2>underweight linebacker, but doesn't quite have the speed of Lewis

830
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 2>and isn't always in the right spot like Lewis is.

831
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.320
<v Speaker 2>So I would put him in that group of undersized

832
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 2>linebackers with very good skill. It's just maybe a tick

833
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.119
<v Speaker 2>below guy like Kyle Lewis. What are your thoughts on

834
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Kishawn Elliott?

835
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 3>So he's the highest, he's higher than me than Deontay Lawson,

836
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 3>but I have him a little bit lower to he

837
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 3>is number okay. So Jayshn Barham we talked about on

838
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the edge, he's actually held her linebacker.

839
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 1>He'd be right behind Kyle Lewis.

840
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 3>But then I have like Keyshawn Elliott at twelve, So

841
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 3>there'd be a few and other names we talk about

842
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>in here. But I love a player that commands the defense.

843
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 3>You can see it right. Another one he's calling off

844
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 3>the defense is Arizona State. He is lining up players

845
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.239
<v Speaker 3>and he's a tackling machine, like he's getting all over

846
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>the field. He's playing downhill. He plays through contact, taking

847
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.960
<v Speaker 3>down blockers all game and not really wearing down. I

848
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 3>love the way he blitz his He looks like he

849
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 3>locks onto the quarterback and he is just forcing his

850
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>way into the backfield. Not a good cover player, especially

851
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 3>in man. He can hold his own in zone coverage,

852
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.280
<v Speaker 3>but man coverage is real rough on him because he's

853
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.400
<v Speaker 3>just like he's not big enough to hang with the

854
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>tight end and he's not quite fast enough to do

855
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 3>with its like a running back type of thing. So

856
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 3>gets a little bit out of control some reading reactions.

857
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.719
<v Speaker 3>He really needs ten to fifteen pounds of muscle, that's

858
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.880
<v Speaker 3>what he really needs to to truly hang with these

859
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.519
<v Speaker 3>tight ends. And he and then you know, if you

860
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 3>add that on their white house, can can you do

861
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 3>you lose the other bitter.

862
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Speed exactly can't lose anymore.

863
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just it's kind of a tough profile. I

864
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 3>would be happy I have him right in round four

865
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:40.199
<v Speaker 3>as a player who should go in the fourth round,

866
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 3>and I think, you know one twenty five, that's basically

867
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 3>where we have him here.

868
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>But I have a couple other players ahead of him yet.

869
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Harold Perkins is not Harold Perk.

870
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Dude.

871
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.679
<v Speaker 2>This guy was a top five projected pick after his

872
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.639
<v Speaker 2>freshman season. He has fallen into the tweener tag after

873
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.639
<v Speaker 2>his production is flattened. He can rush the B nineteen

874
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.320
<v Speaker 2>career sacks created a lot of turnovers, eight fors, fumbles,

875
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 2>five picks, but he misses a lot of tackles and

876
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.880
<v Speaker 2>he has to win the edge with speed. He cannot

877
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.719
<v Speaker 2>deal with muscle, so torn A c Allen twenty twenty

878
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 2>four definitely hurts. He's been behind in development because he's

879
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 2>played two spots as well. So Harold Perkins terribly miscast

880
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.639
<v Speaker 2>by Brian Kelly at Els what a shock. Should have

881
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.639
<v Speaker 2>a better NFL career, But I don't know, man. It

882
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>seeming his stock has fallen so much it's hard to

883
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 2>be excited.

884
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you nailed it. There he is.

885
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I have him at seventeen, which is like five six

886
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 3>round range. It comes down to what are you doing

887
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>for me at your size?

888
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Right?

889
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Like you are six one two twenty three And he

890
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't do any of the testing at the combine, which

891
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 3>is a massive red flag. Why are you not running?

892
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 3>Like are you not fast? Because if anything, you should

893
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 3>go out and prove I can play safety. Right, I'm

894
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 3>going to run a four four four something like that,

895
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 3>and he didn't do it because you mentioned the freshman year, right,

896
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 3>that's when he was playing edge rusher. Well, we talked

897
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 3>about James Pierce last year. Is sumthing small and that's

898
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty pounds later than James Pierce, So I don't think

899
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 3>you can rush at that size in the NFL. He's

900
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 3>an okay cover player. He's not as good as Kyle Lewis.

901
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 3>He's not that good now. The closing speed is unteachable.

902
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Some of the things that he can do with just

903
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 3>pure raw athleticism are awesome. But he's a liability in

904
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 3>the run game because any offensive lineman that hits him,

905
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 3>he is not getting off of them. He is just

906
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 3>going to get They cannot slip blocks. He is an

907
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 3>elite athlete who doesn't really have a fit in the NFL.

908
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess the best you could hope for was what

909
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Jeremiah Usokomamora was before he got injured, right, Like, kind

910
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 3>of this hybrid safety linebacker who sometimes drops down and

911
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:50.559
<v Speaker 3>that's a good player, but he also hasn't shown.

912
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 1>That he can do that yet.

913
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 3>And I, to me, that is a special team's dynamo

914
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 3>who I can bring in to do some weird things

915
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 3>as a situational defender. And I don't want to take

916
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.360
<v Speaker 3>that in the top one hundred and eighty picks.

917
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, four four five pro day forty do anything for

918
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>you would if I trusted that, Yeah, Yeah, that's kind

919
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 2>of my thing.

920
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:11.519
<v Speaker 3>If I trusted that it wasn't a four to five,

921
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 3>it would it would bump him into like the one

922
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 3>fifty range.

923
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>But I don't trust that that's a true necessarily.

924
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's one thirty on the mock draft data base board.

925
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.039
<v Speaker 2>He's two hundred on Dame Brugler's Beast.

926
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 1>So that's about That's closer to where I would have him.

927
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Lots of guys in the fifth round, uh, and then

928
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 2>there's some late flyers. I'm wondering if you're interested in

929
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>any of these guys. Betteker from Oregon. I got him

930
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>as a special team's ace with a captain attitude, consistently

931
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 2>in the right spot. Undersized, high floor, low ceiling type

932
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 2>of player. Caleb el elurms Or from TCU great speed

933
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 2>but needs work on recognition is my note on him.

934
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Touring in York from A and M. Smart player but

935
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.280
<v Speaker 2>is in the right spot but limited because of his

936
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>size and speed. Jimmy Roler from Michigan plays like a

937
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.760
<v Speaker 2>psycho all out special teams guy, good enough athlete that

938
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>has had injuries. In Fisher from Indiana, great but undersized athlete,

939
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:10.400
<v Speaker 2>energetic motorstrong production. Jack Kelly from BYU another special team's ace.

940
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 2>The speed stands out, hits hard. He will still get

941
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>washed out by olnemen and space and missus tackles with

942
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 2>bad angles. So who do you like between these guys

943
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>in the fifth round? Kind of down to one seventy five.

944
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Here, so I have Caleb ellams Or and Tory and

945
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 3>York quite a bit higher than this. Those guys actually

946
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 3>have like borderline top one hundred grades for me. Caleb

947
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 3>ellams Or just another awesome athletically gifted player who shows

948
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 3>up in different bunch of ways, never leaves the field

949
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 3>because he's so versatile, and they play him in his

950
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 3>gap well and then when he gets there, he wraps up.

951
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 3>I like the field that he has in zone coverage.

952
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:48.400
<v Speaker 3>It's with all these players that we talk about, it's

953
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.440
<v Speaker 3>a little bit undersized, but from his case, when I

954
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 3>look at his frame, I think he can add the

955
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.119
<v Speaker 3>fifteen pounds and I don't think he loses anything because

956
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 3>he has some real long arms. He's kind of lanky

957
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.800
<v Speaker 3>right now. The scheme at TCU was designed to free

958
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:02.719
<v Speaker 3>him up, so there's a lot of there's not a

959
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:04.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of examples of him having to like shed and

960
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>disengage blocks.

961
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.760
<v Speaker 1>But eight day two, early day three, I have a.

962
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Top of Alex Singleton to him, who's a really good linebacker, Like, yeah,

963
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 3>that's the one I have for Caleb ballums Or and

964
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.079
<v Speaker 3>then Tory and York is the other one.

965
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>That I have higher. And I get why he's lower

966
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 1>on this list. I don't know.

967
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.159
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm just I can fall for to certain places.

968
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm really worried about the size linebackers, just it is

969
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:26.280
<v Speaker 3>to some exa to tackle.

970
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't really care about your size if you can tackle.

971
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.960
<v Speaker 3>And in his case, he's awesome at it like if

972
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 3>he was two inches taller, just kind of like Cash

973
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>is Hollow in the same defense. If he was two

974
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 3>inches taller, I think we'd be talking about Tory and

975
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Newark in the top fifty picks. He is all over

976
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 3>the field. They play him in a bunch of different locations.

977
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 3>He is the one calling out the place. This is

978
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>the Texas A and M defense that has over the

979
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 3>last two years, but three four first round picks going

980
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 3>off of it. He's the one that's really moving. Everybody

981
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 3>always pursues to the ball. He fills gaps and is

982
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Speaker 3>a really strong tackler. He can cover running backs underneath.

983
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 3>He'll take some hooks zones away. Now, if you ask

984
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.880
<v Speaker 3>him to carry a tight end up the seam, they're

985
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 3>just gonna throw it over him, and that's going to

986
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 3>be a concern. And that's what we're seeing with these leagues.

987
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 3>But I think if he was a little bit bigger,

988
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:11.719
<v Speaker 3>we would talk about Tory and York in the same

989
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 3>range as what we talk about, you know, Jacob Rodriguez,

990
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Hill that whatever, however you want to rearrange that

991
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 3>group there, And to me, I'm just not gonna worry

992
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.519
<v Speaker 3>about it. Because he's had success tackling at the collegiate level.

993
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I think he can tackle pretty good, and so I do.

994
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.519
<v Speaker 3>I think he'll actually go Day two. No, but I

995
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>would rather have him in the top one hundred and

996
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 3>fifty picks, Like I could see his vision better than

997
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I could see a player like Harold Perkins or any

998
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:37.159
<v Speaker 3>of that stuff, because he actually has shown some linebacker ability.

999
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Dude, if Harold Perkins goes it's gonna be to like

1000
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland or Vegas or.

1001
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Saw a team shooting for all the upside, a team.

1002
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 2>That you constantly see at the bottom of the standings,

1003
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 2>right Like that is who is going to draft Harold

1004
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Perkins high? If he goes low, then great. You know,

1005
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 2>if he goes past, I'd say, let's just say pick

1006
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>one seventy five beyond the fifth round. I think that's

1007
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 2>worthy of a of a pick. But yeah, you're right

1008
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.280
<v Speaker 2>about that. What about the rest of the linebackers? Here

1009
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 2>in the sixth we have Justin Jefferson from Bama, Red

1010
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Murdoch from Buffalo, Seventh is Lander Barton from Utah, Eric

1011
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Tenttry from USC, Xavian Soory Junior from Arkansas, and then

1012
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:22.559
<v Speaker 2>a couple of udfas Carsha Shahar from Iowa, Shad Banks

1013
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>from UTSA, and jayde and Dugger from Ull. Anyone stand

1014
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:27.840
<v Speaker 2>out here? I just first I want to throw out

1015
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Red Murdoch. How much Red Murdock? Have you watched?

1016
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Man?

1017
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 3>About two games and he had I think two force

1018
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 3>fumbles in each of them.

1019
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 2>It felt like he is an e fing psychopath. He

1020
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.880
<v Speaker 2>hits like a ton of He's gonna have like a

1021
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 2>three year NFL career because he hits everybody with everything

1022
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 2>he has on every play. I hadn't watched a whole

1023
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:51.039
<v Speaker 2>lot about him and I saw I think just a

1024
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>clip on YouTube or something of him, and I went,

1025
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this guy plays like a nut job.

1026
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 2>And then I went and watched a couple of his

1027
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 2>game City. He plays like a psychopath. He is fun

1028
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 2>to watch me.

1029
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 1>So I have his games.

1030
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I have Minnesota and Bowling Green, and I said, I

1031
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 3>wanted to do two games against him, you know, getting

1032
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:10.480
<v Speaker 3>his best competition, including Minnesota.

1033
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>And Sean do Looc.

1034
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Sean Dolac came out of Buffalo last year as an

1035
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.519
<v Speaker 3>undrafted for agent and stuck around with I believe it

1036
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 3>was the Rams, but Red Murdock's a much better player,

1037
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:21.199
<v Speaker 3>the career leader in force fumbles. I mean, you can

1038
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>see why my dude is attacking the ball any chance

1039
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 3>he gets. He is not just saying get down. We

1040
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 3>talk about Jacob brad Rigus, like Red Murdoch, he isall

1041
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 3>like it's his like his life savings, and he has

1042
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 3>to rip it out of your hands to get paid.

1043
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 3>That's the approach he's taken to it. He will bite

1044
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 3>on pump fakes and you mentioned it. He is so

1045
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 3>aggressive that he is just running himself out. He's undersizes

1046
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 3>to expect from a mac linebacker. But like, look at

1047
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.280
<v Speaker 3>the way Logan Wilson plays and like, why can't Red

1048
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:49.719
<v Speaker 3>Murdock do that? And I, you know, I have Justin

1049
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 3>Jefferson a little bit ahead of I actually have him

1050
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.000
<v Speaker 3>ahead of Deonte Lawson. I think there's a little bit

1051
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 3>more projectable upside there, just because I like his body

1052
00:46:56.280 --> 00:47:00.559
<v Speaker 3>type more. Eric Gentry so talk about you don't talk

1053
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.840
<v Speaker 3>about a weird shaped body six six two twenty five.

1054
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:05.800
<v Speaker 2>And I put him in safety.

1055
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just such an odd body type. Now in

1056
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.960
<v Speaker 3>a class where all these guys are small, his underweight

1057
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.679
<v Speaker 3>shows up on wrap up drills. That's where you notice it,

1058
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:18.440
<v Speaker 3>like he's trying to get Dean Connors down to the

1059
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:20.320
<v Speaker 3>ground in the Shrine Bowl, and Dean Connors is just

1060
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 3>running through him because even though he's got him, he

1061
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.159
<v Speaker 3>just does not. He needs so much more strength. If

1062
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.239
<v Speaker 3>a team played a traditional strong side linebacker every down,

1063
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 3>which not many of them do anymore, I think he'd

1064
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 3>be much more valuable. But in the way the modern

1065
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 3>league has moved on, it would be if Isaiah Simmons

1066
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 3>had ever worked out like Eric Gentry would be all

1067
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 3>be much more popular. But Isaiah Simmons has been such

1068
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 3>a I don't know how many teams have taken a

1069
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:45.599
<v Speaker 3>shot on and my team took a shot on him,

1070
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:47.320
<v Speaker 3>how many teams have tried, and it's just has never

1071
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.440
<v Speaker 3>worked out. So Eric Gentry probably will fall. The one

1072
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 3>that I guess I would probably say I like the

1073
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 3>most in this group, and he is number twelve for me.

1074
00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Is Xavian, Sorry, Junior. I had what scouting report he

1075
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.119
<v Speaker 3>was at Georgia first off, which of course they have

1076
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.719
<v Speaker 3>another good linebacker, but went to Arkansas prototypical NFL size,

1077
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>what good speed. I like the way that he can

1078
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 3>handle zones. It's not great and man doesn't always trust

1079
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 3>his eyes, which causes Costom a step when he's attacking downhill.

1080
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 3>But he'll throw his body around like you'll see him

1081
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.039
<v Speaker 3>level players and blow up plays in the backfield. He's

1082
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 3>not big, but I kind of like his ability to

1083
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.000
<v Speaker 3>knock down passes. Did you do jayde and Dugger at all?

1084
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:25.519
<v Speaker 2>No?

1085
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't, Oh dude, So you see.

1086
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 3>If you can find some Jade Dugger and you text me,

1087
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 3>because this is another one weird body type. But the

1088
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 3>G four level he is this massive frame, but he

1089
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.159
<v Speaker 3>moves really well. Latterly, I think the size in the

1090
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 3>length means he could play any linebacker spot. And if

1091
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:42.360
<v Speaker 3>you want to see whether you're Red Murdoch or Jane

1092
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Dugger who's playing at these lower levels, Jane Druger at

1093
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.599
<v Speaker 3>Louisiana just a tackling machine. He's all over the field,

1094
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.960
<v Speaker 3>gets over excited, runs past plays. He got to the

1095
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 3>Shine Bowl kind of did exactly what I expected to

1096
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 3>do there. Range was excellent. Got a bit surprised when

1097
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 3>he had struggled to get off blocks in that game.

1098
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 3>But there's a wide range of outcomes. But Laighton vand

1099
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 3>rushes in there, someone who's a really good tackler who

1100
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.440
<v Speaker 3>just kind of shows up. And so if somebody wants

1101
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 3>to take a shot on someone like Jane Duggart around

1102
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 3>six something like that, I wouldn't blame a team for

1103
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 3>doing that.

1104
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>The Lakers and I love it.

1105
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I try. Did you have onhen Heineke in your

1106
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:19.079
<v Speaker 1>rankings at all?

1107
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I did?

1108
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 3>I did, but he I have to delete him out here.

1109
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I was just looking at my rankings. I'm like, oh, man,

1110
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:26.280
<v Speaker 3>who do we not talk about? I'm like, oh, yeah,

1111
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:26.719
<v Speaker 3>that's why.

1112
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>He's not on here.

1113
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:29.920
<v Speaker 2>By the way, did you see Red Murdoch's career numbers

1114
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.119
<v Speaker 2>twelve force fumbles.

1115
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the career something.

1116
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, six seventeen four right, sixteen, Yeah.

1117
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Career leader in force fumbles. I said.

1118
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.559
<v Speaker 3>He attacks the ball like it's his Like, if that,

1119
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, doesn't force his fumble, he's gonna lose money

1120
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.719
<v Speaker 3>or something. It is crazy how hard he attacks the

1121
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 3>ball at some plays.

1122
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Man, Yeah, a pick two and eleven sacks, Like, dude

1123
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>just makes plays. You'll be somebody willing to give up

1124
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the body obviously, So he's going to get picked.

1125
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I have him at pick twenty, which is like after

1126
00:49:57.480 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 3>pick two hundred. But you know, you tell me that

1127
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Red Murdock kicks around the league, is one of the

1128
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:03.639
<v Speaker 3>best special teams linebackers who could step in if somebody

1129
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 3>gets hurt for a while.

1130
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why not?

1131
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely good linebackers. There are some decent linebackers in

1132
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 2>here we're gonna have and the need is big for them.

1133
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna have a decent amount of starters I

1134
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 2>think from this group. So interesting, interesting class for sure.

1135
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.679
<v Speaker 2>How so Sonny styles, where does he go? Make a prediction?

1136
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Where does he go? He should go?

1137
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 3>I think the floor is five, right, the first the

1138
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 3>first Giants pick. The floor is five. It's not going

1139
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 3>to the Raiders. The Jets should not. They have other needs.

1140
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.199
<v Speaker 3>I would not take him there. I mean, if I

1141
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.639
<v Speaker 3>was Arizona, that's probably where I would go. It sounds

1142
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 3>like they are leaning towards if they want to trade

1143
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:47.800
<v Speaker 3>back from all indications, and if they can't do it,

1144
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:49.239
<v Speaker 3>they were going to stay put and take care.

1145
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Of my love, which you know, I think that's all nonsense. Yes,

1146
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I think they're trying to get a trade done. So

1147
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 2>they're saying we're gonna take everybody's favorite player right here.

1148
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.440
<v Speaker 2>So even if it's the Titans with Giants trading up,

1149
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 2>like the Giants trading up to get over the Titans,

1150
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 2>or the Titans so that the Giants don't trade up,

1151
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Like I think that's the goal, is to just add

1152
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 2>an extra pick and still get a player you like.

1153
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:18.679
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, I think you know,

1154
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>you just I think the defense is getting better. You

1155
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:27.199
<v Speaker 2>obviously have you know, a much improved edge rusher now

1156
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and Jermaine Johnson. So let's get a linebacker and here

1157
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 2>to lead this whole defense. This is the guy that'll

1158
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 2>do it for a decade.

1159
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 3>Sonny Styles and Cedric Grands I'm talking about, like just

1160
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 3>build it right there, right, like, yes, Sonny Styles though

1161
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.880
<v Speaker 3>in Arizona is instantly so much better than Cody Banks

1162
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 3>or Cody Simon. Excuse me, Like that's so much better

1163
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 3>than them in your in your idea, there were Sonny

1164
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Stales falls to Tennessee. To sent in Arizona takes David

1165
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Bailey probably, yeah, Bailey, Yeah, I think you know. If

1166
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I was doing it, I would take any sales ahead

1167
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 3>of David Bailey. But I'm not going to knock anybody.

1168
00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Edges are still more valuable at this point than than line.

1169
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.800
<v Speaker 3>But I feel very confident in saying that Fernando Mendoz R,

1170
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:06.639
<v Speaker 3>l Resny Styles and David Bailey will be the first

1171
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.039
<v Speaker 3>four picks off the border. It should be the first

1172
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 3>four picks off the board, unless something weird happens with

1173
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Jeremiahleven there's a trade back.

1174
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, So one more episode to cover every position,

1175
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 2>A man class tomorrow defensive backs, which will be a

1176
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.920
<v Speaker 2>much longer episode. So we will have that for you tomorrow,

1177
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 2>but we will see you then. Remember to follow us

1178
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 2>on the Twitter apt Bogland Sports at co p I

1179
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 2>e p S for c K and we'll give you

1180
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 2>all the lowdown on what we're doing tomorrow so we

1181
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:36.400
<v Speaker 2>don't even have to do it today. Take it easy, everybody,

1182
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:37.119
<v Speaker 2>see you tomorrow.