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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody to another edition of The Cajun Knight Live.

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<v Speaker 2>I am the Cajun Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Mook, your humble host, and thank you everybody for

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<v Speaker 1>joining in this evening. So, got a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the world today, a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>topics we could dive into.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was about to say Tony, but we currently

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<v Speaker 1>have three Tonys in this group right now, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know that one of the Tony's actually had some topics

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to discuss with the class. The other Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, is always ready to just be there with

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<v Speaker 1>the facts and the knowledge Anthony aka.

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<v Speaker 2>Other Tony, but he prefers Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's got a lot of fun things to

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<v Speaker 1>throw into the mix as well. Royce, our resident Jewish correspondent,

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<v Speaker 1>He is absolutely here.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably where you are you at work right now? Royce?

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<v Speaker 2>A no answer, I'll tell that as a hard yes,

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<v Speaker 2>hard g for g Maatria.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, so uh all right, gents, was there anything

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<v Speaker 1>in particular y'all wanting to get into and discuss right

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<v Speaker 1>off the rip?

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<v Speaker 3>No, by the sorry, by the way, I know I

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<v Speaker 3>am not at work. I am actually just holding home.

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<v Speaker 3>He believe or not. Believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm glad to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they work you like well, jokes right themselves

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy. So I'm glad to see you're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>night off to be able to decompress and relax a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So good things, man, Oh yeah, that's indeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Tony, you said that you had some things you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to share, you wanted to be able to come

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<v Speaker 1>on and bring them on the live last night. But

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<v Speaker 1>you said that you all said some things you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up tonight. What you got, bro?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so let's see. Do I just like clicking drag

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<v Speaker 4>from my desktop to the chat?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you could copy and paste the link or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, honestly for the pictures you mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, a while ago, when you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>whole New Jersey drone thing was like a big thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It still happens constantly that they're always flying around. But uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I decided to go to like the beachfront

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<v Speaker 4>area with my brother because he lives kind of close,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to like the you know, the coast pretty much,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, we were just on the beach. It

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<v Speaker 4>was like probably twenty five degrees at the time. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we we were you know, we can look

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<v Speaker 4>across and see Atlantic City and they were just flying everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>We must have counted at least i'd say maybe sixty

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<v Speaker 4>seventy within like twenty five minutes and really flying around.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the time, you know, I kind of got,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, sick of being cold. So I was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's our head and back. And then when we were

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<v Speaker 4>driving down the road, we saw like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>headlights coming towards us. And let's see if this sends.

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<v Speaker 2>How long would you say you were out there at

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<v Speaker 2>the beach observing.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably at least thirty minutes. But there was also other

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<v Speaker 4>people with like binoculars and telescopes and shit, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just watching them all. And you know they were saying

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<v Speaker 4>that from what this video that I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if you guys can see it, Yeah, but uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I see the pictures anywhere. These pictures are videos.

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<v Speaker 4>So these are the pictures of when I was out there.

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<v Speaker 4>We actually found the tracking of this drone and it

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<v Speaker 4>was it comes up as a C seventeen. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's what a transport.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, that's that's a lie.

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<v Speaker 4>But the video, you know, obviously show is different. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, while we're track and like where this thing

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<v Speaker 4>flew around. It went down to about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five feet from the second picture, and it flew

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and twenty five feet were wherever. But you

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<v Speaker 4>know those you know, the sea's seventeen. They're allowed, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, So yeah, I got a couple of questions. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>just right off the rip here you said you saw

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere between sixty and seventy of these flying objects in

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<v Speaker 1>the course about thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was like at the like the peak of

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<v Speaker 4>like that whole thing. But you know, if I just

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<v Speaker 4>let my dog outside and I just stare up in

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<v Speaker 4>the you know sky, I probably could see about like

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen to twenty and like a good like twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>they're just they're everywhere, And.

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<v Speaker 1>So could you hear them? As you said it dropped

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<v Speaker 1>down to like one hundred and twenty feet.

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<v Speaker 4>So that that one in particularly that I saw a

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<v Speaker 4>video of, you know, you could hear it because it

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<v Speaker 4>was just so quiet, you know, but it wasn't as

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<v Speaker 4>loud as like a normal combustion engine would be. You

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<v Speaker 4>know it was you would hear that like the propeller.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I don't. I don't even know what kind

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<v Speaker 4>of motora has or anything like that, but uh yeah

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<v Speaker 4>you kind of hear it. But uh, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just like in my backyard, you don't hear them

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<v Speaker 4>at all, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And all right, let me let me go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>share the screen. I want to see if I can

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<v Speaker 1>play this for everybody. This is this is pretty wild, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Check this out, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was flying above me like a thousand feet

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<v Speaker 4>in the air.

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<v Speaker 5>Look how fucking low this is, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can hear something, but that's not that

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<v Speaker 2>you're hearing. Oh yeah it is. Hold on now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, then.

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<v Speaker 1>To say that that's like a C seventeen or something,

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<v Speaker 1>that's more believable than to call that a drone.

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<v Speaker 3>That looks like a C seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you think so? That that thing was probably maybe

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<v Speaker 4>two car lenx maybe two and a half wide. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know how why to C seventeen is.

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<v Speaker 3>A they're I mean, they're they're pretty wide, you know how.

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<v Speaker 3>There's actually winglets on the end of it. Each one

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<v Speaker 3>of those believe or not, it's about nine feet tall,

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<v Speaker 3>so everything is it looks small since we're on the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>but honestly, since I came from aviation maintenance, that looks

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<v Speaker 3>like a C seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>That looks like one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, we're just with how the the lights were flashing.

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<v Speaker 3>Also with the tail, it just looked like that, just

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<v Speaker 3>with how the aileron was actually on the top of

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<v Speaker 3>the vertical stabilizer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I'll say this, though, I don't know how loud

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<v Speaker 1>the usual C seventeen typically is.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying that was that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm looking at the video here, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was dark, but I mean it's not like there

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy depth perception.

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<v Speaker 2>Being used there.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see the grounds of the horizon, you could

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<v Speaker 1>see about how far up in the air it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how loud they're supposed to be, but

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<v Speaker 2>that that's kind of yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's weird because if you know, if you look

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<v Speaker 4>at the pictures, the first one, you know that that's

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<v Speaker 4>when it flew across over my head. But would that

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<v Speaker 4>be normal for that to be flying at one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and twenty five feet off the air, off the grounds?

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<v Speaker 1>That was my next point, right, So, like I could

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<v Speaker 1>understand that they were doing some sort of like a

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<v Speaker 1>training maneuver or something like that, but it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>weird time for them to be doing that low of

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<v Speaker 1>a maneuver as everyone is already looking up in the

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<v Speaker 1>sky to see drones and shit, right, I mean, help

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<v Speaker 1>me out here, Royce. I mean, how often do they

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<v Speaker 1>do low flying maneuvers like that for training or for otherwise?

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately I am not an expert on C seventeens, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do know that they have a system where they

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<v Speaker 3>like whenever they try to drop in for something, what

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<v Speaker 3>they'll do is they will drop rather low. They'll open

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<v Speaker 3>up the car department and they'll basically release things and

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<v Speaker 3>they won't be very high off the ground for that reason. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a load out right, like there's in the C one thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>They call it LAPES, the load Altitude Parachute Extraction system,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's very similar to that. So like they'll throw

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<v Speaker 3>the shit out the back, it'll parachute down. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>my main guess as far as that why they be

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<v Speaker 3>doing it now, I don't know why. I mean in

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<v Speaker 3>Jersey and then they sense because they have McGuire Air

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<v Speaker 3>Force Base or joint McGuire Dick's Lakehurst. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 3>the C seventeens you come out of there.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, Okay, I do see a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that would make sense. Is everything you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing look like that?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know who's the question to don Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the things you're seeing in the sky at night,

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<v Speaker 1>do they look like that? Or are they different?

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<v Speaker 4>Now there there's a bunch of different kinds.

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<v Speaker 2>How close do you do the air Force base there?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe five minutes I live all of them. Yeah, well yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like not even twenty minutes away. But that was

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<v Speaker 4>that was nowhere near that. That was that was further

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<v Speaker 4>south than h Tucker in a little like Harbor Towns.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's just strange because like you know, I I

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<v Speaker 4>see and I constantly hear, you know, these these kind

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<v Speaker 4>of airplanes. And I'm not, you know, completely disagreeing with you,

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<v Speaker 4>but when when you look up you know pictures of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, these you know C seventeen they're huge. Dude,

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<v Speaker 4>that thing did not look that big. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I could be wrong, you know, I used to betray

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<v Speaker 4>you sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But it could also be a different type of aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>that they are trying to they're not necessarily experiment with,

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<v Speaker 1>but testing some sort of new new jet or new plane,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're putting it on radar as a C seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's kind of not because they're not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to alert people as to the new hardware. I could

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<v Speaker 1>even believe that, but there's so many and I know

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan goes on this whole kick about the orbs and

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<v Speaker 1>how that's more believable.

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<v Speaker 2>In the drones.

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<v Speaker 4>They're crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying there's no orbs. You know, there

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<v Speaker 2>may be, but especially.

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<v Speaker 1>Around New Jersey and around the Air Force base, it

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<v Speaker 1>would make more sense to me that they are man

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<v Speaker 1>made objects, drones of some type or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest issue I had with it was that it

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<v Speaker 1>was bipartisan lies. Right, if it was just aircraft, or

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<v Speaker 1>if it was just new drone technology or whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>case was, they could have just told us that. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they ran with the story of yeah, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what they are, but they're not ours and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>from another country, but don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a threat. And both sides, Republican and Democrat,

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<v Speaker 2>were running that story.

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<v Speaker 4>And the whole thing is just weird.

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<v Speaker 2>What you got?

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<v Speaker 3>Go for it?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh May, I was wondering if was there ever an

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly couldn't tell you because the quote unquote official

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<v Speaker 1>story has changed so many times. I've heard everything from

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<v Speaker 1>drones from a Chinese mothership to American drones, some like

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<v Speaker 1>skunk work type technology that they're testing out to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people just kind of losing their shit over nothing. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's not nothing, right. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been seen by way too many people. A plane here

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<v Speaker 1>and there. I understand a new a drone even I

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, what are you doing out here?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like flying my drone because I'm legally allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. And it was a whole thing that they tried.

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<v Speaker 1>They tried pinning it on these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Like these are the masterminds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, bro, this was a kid and his dad

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<v Speaker 1>who were flying a couple of drones as a hobby

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<v Speaker 1>level thing, like you can't put it on that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>No one ever actually gave a real official story, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least not that I know of.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I thought i'd heard something recently, but I'm looking

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<v Speaker 5>at the Wikipedia article right now and it doesn't even

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<v Speaker 5>have anything. The shift gears a little bit. We could

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<v Speaker 5>come back to this, But my grandfather worked in aircraft

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<v Speaker 5>maintenance for like fifty years and he never believed in

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<v Speaker 5>any conspiracy theories to my knowledge, except one, which was

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<v Speaker 5>that he thought that TWA Flight eight hundred was taken

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<v Speaker 5>of a fuel air explosion, which was the official story.

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<v Speaker 5>And that checks out to me because I used to

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<v Speaker 5>on fire. Yeah, So there's only been one fuel air

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<v Speaker 5>explosion in an aircraft fuel tank to my knowledge and

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<v Speaker 5>all history, and it was a very hot day in

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<v Speaker 5>me is you know, hard to believe, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, how hot does it happen to me

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<v Speaker 1>to make the vapor point go to that level?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And what was the fuel to air oxygen mixture that

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<v Speaker 5>Right, And in order to light on fire, the concentration

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<v Speaker 5>of the volatile organics has to be higher than the

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<v Speaker 5>lower explosive limit. And that's why if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>tune an engine, if it's running too lean, it won't start.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's running too rich, it also won't start, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, my grandfather maintained that there's no way that

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<v Speaker 5>seventy seven forty seven blew up just from a fuel

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<v Speaker 5>air explosion on board. And he said that he worked

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<v Speaker 5>for United Airlines and they had all Boeing aircraft at

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<v Speaker 5>the time, and he said that, you know, when he

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<v Speaker 5>was getting ready to retire, he's like, they finally retrofitted

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<v Speaker 5>the seven thirty sevens, the seven to fifty seven sixty sevens,

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<v Speaker 5>and the last one they did was the seven forty seven,

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<v Speaker 5>which was supposedly that was the one that had the problem, right,

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<v Speaker 5>but that was the last one that got around to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that also kind of checks out a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those issues that are blatantly in their face somehow just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get pushed to the bottom of the list.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's not just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you would actually know in the military, you would

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<v Speaker 1>expect that the things that really need to happen, we

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<v Speaker 1>could push it off for another six months or so.

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<v Speaker 1>In the private sector, where there's actual money being pushed around,

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<v Speaker 1>you would expect that to get fixed first.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, he believes that it was accidentally shot down by

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<v Speaker 5>a missile during a military training exercise, and it was

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<v Speaker 5>just way easier to hush it up at that time.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it happened in nineteen ninety six, so I

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<v Speaker 5>would have been eight. I mean, look, we would have

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<v Speaker 1>This does happen, This does happen. Didn't We just have

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<v Speaker 1>one happen though? Was it the Black Sea or the

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<v Speaker 1>Caspian Sea? We had one of our jets get shot

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<v Speaker 1>down by our NA vessel and they almost shot down

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<v Speaker 1>another one.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I think that was in the Red sea.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that was a big old and boy you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about they were about ready to fucking

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<v Speaker 1>level the Hoothy's backyard because they thought it was them.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that naval vessel was like, uh, sorry, guys, that

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, bro, what Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Training accidents quote unquote they do, in fact happen, not often,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can't happen in the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that specific story.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, it was back when, way back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day before my time, if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>What heard you say that was.

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<v Speaker 5>Well twa was nineteen ninety six, and this other fuel

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<v Speaker 5>air explosion it wasn't military related. It was just a

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<v Speaker 5>civilian seven thirty seven I think in the Philippines. But

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<v Speaker 5>it happened on the ground. I don't think anyone even

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<v Speaker 5>died in that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's also pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh yeah, well yeah. And also people don't realize when

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<v Speaker 5>plays go up it's like minus forty degrees up at altitude,

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<v Speaker 5>even on the hottest day of the summer, because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a surface level of the Earth gets a lot of heat,

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<v Speaker 5>but I mean most of the solar radiation passes through

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<v Speaker 5>the lower or like medium high up atmosphere without interacting

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<v Speaker 5>with it. So it's damn cold up there. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>why you know, fighters and you know, and bombers in

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<v Speaker 5>World War Two everyone was stuffing their pants and their

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<v Speaker 5>shirts with lots of the extra newspaper to keep warm

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<v Speaker 5>because it was just damn cold up there, like minus

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<v Speaker 5>twenty no matter what you do on accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, that's kind of surprising, Tony. Yeah, why what

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<v Speaker 2>is it? Why I was surprising about it?

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<v Speaker 4>I just I just I figure closer to the Sun,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm probably a little bit hotter, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The air there, Yeah, so it's less less molecules to

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<v Speaker 1>be warmed. Plus the surface is kind of what absorbs

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<v Speaker 1>the heat of the Earth. I know that there's flat

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<v Speaker 1>earthers out there that will disagree with these things, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will tell you that the closer you get to

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<v Speaker 1>the firmam the warmer it should get. But science and

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<v Speaker 1>physics and aviation would tell us otherwise. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on which book we're reading out of.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, yeah, well, way up in the ozone and like

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<v Speaker 5>the ionosphere, it does get really hot because there's lots

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<v Speaker 5>of wavelengths of solar radiation that bombard it, that get

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<v Speaker 5>absorbed and create a lot of heat. But then whatever

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<v Speaker 5>gets absorbed up there isn't available to come down to

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<v Speaker 5>the Earth, And we're pretty fortunate we have that layer

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<v Speaker 5>to shelter us that way. But anything from like twenty

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<v Speaker 5>really cold, like minus forty and there's even you know,

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<v Speaker 5>some gas helium up there, but there's no helium down

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<v Speaker 5>at surface level, because the velocity of helium atoms is

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<v Speaker 5>so fast that they actually reach the escape velocity for

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<v Speaker 5>getting away from gravity when they're down here. But when

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<v Speaker 5>they're up there, they're cold enough they can actually hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it also you got to also account

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<v Speaker 1>for the fact that the plane is moving what is

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<v Speaker 1>like four hundred six hundred miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 5>Something, Yeah, sixty roughly.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's gonna be that little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a windshill.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that on a motorcycle you can account for

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<v Speaker 1>at least twenty degree drop off of ambient temperature just

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<v Speaker 1>going at about seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine what the planes are experiencing. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, all right, so walls of aviation aside these drones,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still seeing them. That's the thing ever since Trump

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<v Speaker 1>took off, is we haven't heard anything about the drones

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're still They're still going strong. Wow. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>crazy because you know, I just you know, I just

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<v Speaker 4>had six inches of snow, so like they're still flying,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you would think they might like take a

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just hoping when it gets a little bit warmer

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<v Speaker 4>out and they still fly around, you know, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 4>get a good camera or some shit and try to

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<v Speaker 4>get better pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's New Jersey's gun laws? Like, shit, can you

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<v Speaker 2>have a shotgun?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like some decent skeet shooting could be

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<v Speaker 1>fun at these drones.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah we can. You know, you can have whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, yeah, I was considering it, you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like I was telling you, uh, yesterday, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I got an M four, so I was actually hot.

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<v Speaker 4>I was highly considering about just shooting it. But they're

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<v Speaker 4>they're not that well, you know, like when they're flying

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<v Speaker 4>around like I guess in residential areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if they if they are, you know, believe me,

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<v Speaker 4>I will, absolutely you should.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 5>I found a story from two weeks ago where Carolyn Levitt,

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<v Speaker 5>Press secretary said, after research and study, the drones that

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<v Speaker 5>were flying over New Jersey and large numbers were authorized

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<v Speaker 5>to be flown by the FAA for research and various

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<v Speaker 5>other reasons. No more detail than that. Many of the

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<v Speaker 5>drones were also hobbyists, recreational and private individuals that enjoy

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<v Speaker 5>flying drones. But as far as the research and various

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<v Speaker 5>other reasons, we don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>That is very vague. Again, they're saying that like it's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to worry about.

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<v Speaker 5>They had authorization, Yeah, stucular, like they were looking for

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<v Speaker 5>trace chemicals that might indicate a special kind of bomb,

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<v Speaker 5>a dirty bomb, a nuclear bomb, certain isotopes. People were

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<v Speaker 5>speculating that they were government drones sniffing around for something

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<v Speaker 5>which that they wouldn't want to alert the public.

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<v Speaker 1>To, because nothing alerts the public like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>or unexplainable flying objects every night for six months. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to raise the public attention whatsoever. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing about that. They were saying it was

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<v Speaker 1>a there was some uranium that we couldn't account for,

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<v Speaker 1>and they think it's here and they're gonna they're flying

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<v Speaker 1>these owns to read for it and all this. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, pause, where do we hear that there's

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<v Speaker 1>unaccounted for uranium? When did that story happen?

430
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<v Speaker 2>Then I heard the same thing.

431
00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.039
<v Speaker 1>It was chemicals, right, They were looking for like parts

432
00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:14.599
<v Speaker 1>per billion or parts per trillion, as far as these

433
00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:17.319
<v Speaker 1>chemical agents could be for a dirty bomb or something

434
00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like that. And it's like, dude, as a former instrument sech,

435
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I used to calibrate things, not at the place I

436
00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:25.079
<v Speaker 1>used to work, the place before the place I used

437
00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.079
<v Speaker 1>to work, We used to have to calibrate these little

438
00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:31.200
<v Speaker 1>sensors and monitors to pick up on that finite amount. Dude,

439
00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:33.880
<v Speaker 1>even with a sniffer, like and you're in the area

440
00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:36.079
<v Speaker 1>where you are looking for chlorine gas or whatever the

441
00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:39.799
<v Speaker 1>case is, the amount to actually set that thing off,

442
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<v Speaker 1>there's no way a drone is going to pick that

443
00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.559
<v Speaker 1>up in flight. If a drone's able to pick that

444
00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.640
<v Speaker 1>up while flying, we have way bigger problems than a

445
00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:50.640
<v Speaker 1>part per billion being released, like the bomb's probably already

446
00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.559
<v Speaker 1>gone off or something like. I just I don't know,

447
00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:58.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe the government instrumentation is a lot more sophisticated

448
00:22:58.200 --> 00:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>than the stuff I used to work on and calibrate,

449
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.640
<v Speaker 1>very possible, you know, all the things. I just have

450
00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.400
<v Speaker 1>a hard time believing it now. I also heard rumors

451
00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that they were actually listening in on some Patriot Act

452
00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>level things, and they were flying low enough to be

453
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.079
<v Speaker 1>able to pick up and ping cell phones that were

454
00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:21.640
<v Speaker 1>on certain apps or were connected to certain you know, systems,

455
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.160
<v Speaker 1>routers or whatever the case was, and they were actually

456
00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:27.319
<v Speaker 1>just kind of doing low level flyovers strictly to pick

457
00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:31.559
<v Speaker 1>up on which companies had you know, just throwing out

458
00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:33.559
<v Speaker 1>of hypothetical here, this is not what I heard, but

459
00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:34.680
<v Speaker 1>just to make it make sense.

460
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<v Speaker 2>If I had a drone.

461
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<v Speaker 1>And was flying over my neighborhood a thousand houses here, right,

462
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and this drone was paid for by Verizon, and for

463
00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:47.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, Verizon had lost their records and they wanted

464
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<v Speaker 1>or they wanted to know who was using the Verizon

465
00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Internet provider and cell phones linked to it and all

466
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of that for this neighborhood, the drone would like fly

467
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>over and pick up on how many things would register

468
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<v Speaker 1>per the Verizon.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Code or whatever the case. Okay, it's a possibility.

470
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<v Speaker 1>I see that, But also, you wouldn't need constant drones

471
00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>flying over on a nightly basis for months and months

472
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and months to figure that kind of thing out. So

473
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Patriot Act level things or Patriot Act too, I heard

474
00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:20.920
<v Speaker 1>rumors of these things as well, But again all that's

475
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>just unsubstantiated claims and conspiracy theorists myself included, just coming

476
00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>up with their own things to make it make sense.

477
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:31.279
<v Speaker 1>But again, the fact that it was a bipartisan lie

478
00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and they still have it going, that's enough to raise

479
00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>every single conceivable red flag for me.

480
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the fact that they knew people would notice means

481
00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:46.480
<v Speaker 5>that whatever they were trying to find they calculated was

482
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:49.480
<v Speaker 5>worth a bunch of people noticing the drones and not

483
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:50.960
<v Speaker 5>having a good story for it.

484
00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:51.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's the other thing.

485
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<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't you just have drones with no lights on

486
00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>them if you're doing some secret, top level thing and

487
00:24:57.920 --> 00:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't want the public to know about it, and

488
00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:02.039
<v Speaker 1>allegedly the drones are flying so high that people can't

489
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:06.559
<v Speaker 1>hear them, why would you put lights on them? Unless

490
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.279
<v Speaker 1>they did their risk analysis on this and realized that

491
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:12.519
<v Speaker 1>if they had that many flying it's very possible that

492
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>a helicopter or.

493
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Some shit would hit them. I could see that as well,

494
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and that would have been a lot harder to explain

495
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>random helicopters hitting drones that aren't supposed to be there

496
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and crashing or something like that. I don't know.

497
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Tony, you're living there pretty much in ground

498
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:28.519
<v Speaker 1>zero of the drone activity.

499
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>What do you think on this one?

500
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<v Speaker 4>So I've heard a couple theories, you know, obviously I

501
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:38.799
<v Speaker 4>heard the ones that you were going over. I was

502
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:43.400
<v Speaker 4>actually digging back with you know, from a conversation with

503
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.799
<v Speaker 4>my brother because he was, you know, send me a

504
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:50.039
<v Speaker 4>couple of things. When I saw him the one day,

505
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:54.720
<v Speaker 4>this was probably in January, he was saying that there

506
00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:01.000
<v Speaker 4>was a word of something from can they were testing

507
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 4>out AI with you know drone. You know, I guess

508
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 4>they had AI controlling it. And then I also have

509
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 4>another thing that he sent me, and uh, it was

510
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 4>about us and China were testing out anti gravity drones.

511
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Now that would be interesting, but uh.

512
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:27.880
<v Speaker 4>You know the ones they were coming from the East

513
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 4>coast come you know, going through New Jersey and just

514
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 4>flying all around. But you know, when when we were

515
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 4>by the ocean, they all were coming from over there,

516
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 4>like you would just see like one by one, like

517
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 4>they would come flying bye, and by the time it

518
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:50.640
<v Speaker 4>was like maybe like maybe I don't know how to say,

519
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:56.480
<v Speaker 4>maybe four four or five minutes of it coming towards you,

520
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.599
<v Speaker 4>you would see another like coming and then it would

521
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 4>just like constantly like be a thing, and it would

522
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 4>start at like five six pm and it it would

523
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 4>always stop by two three o'clock in the morning. So

524
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 4>they have like a time schedule too, which is weird.

525
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Now the anti gravity drones or anti gravity technology in general,

526
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.759
<v Speaker 1>that kind of leads credence to the Tesla bomber, if

527
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, the cyber truck bomber EXEA. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

528
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 1>That's what he was saying, is that China and America

529
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.519
<v Speaker 1>the only ones that have this type of anti gravity technology,

530
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:36.599
<v Speaker 1>although I highly highly doubt China's got that type of

531
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 1>tech at this time.

532
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that to be a.

533
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 4>Fact, you know what, To be honest with you, With

534
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.480
<v Speaker 4>China Joe in there, you know it all makes sense.

535
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very possible that Joe gave him our urschematics

536
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to help them catch up on some things. And I

537
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.160
<v Speaker 1>mean we already know they steal everything. I mean how

538
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.079
<v Speaker 1>every year it's shot show the big, the Big Gun convention.

539
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Every year you'll have Chinese nationals, like clearly Chinese nationals

540
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>who go there just to take pictures of everything so

541
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that they can go back to China and try to

542
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, make it up and retrofit it and reverse

543
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 1>engineer its. So, I mean we know that they use

544
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>deep seek to steal everything from chat GPT.

545
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Now Deep seek ist seen is.

546
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>The latest and greatest of AI, and it's like, y'all

547
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>realize they just stole from like five different other types

548
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 1>of AI. Well, how do we know they left their

549
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.759
<v Speaker 1>servers open and we can tell that it was a

550
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>CCP owned server that stole everything from deep seeks or

551
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>from chat GPT and everything else.

552
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.480
<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, they're just trying to make our stock

553
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 4>market collapse, That's what I personally think.

554
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 2>They're giving it their damnedest.

555
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

556
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, they they haven't been able to run the

557
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 1>world on a military standpoint in quite some time. They've

558
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>been trying to play the long con to tighten the economic.

559
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 2>News around the world.

560
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that AI would be their best bet to

561
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 1>do that. That's why that's the big the big race

562
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>for data, the big Ai race.

563
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm even hearing some people say it's the new

564
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Cold War. I don't know.

565
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 1>It's very possible, although not necessarily Cold War. We have

566
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 1>wild things going on around the world right now that

567
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>China does have representation in but so does Russia, Sodas

568
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Iran oddly enough, and Tony you being a big Russia supporter,

569
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 1>what is your thoughts on the as are speaking about

570
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 1>aircraft and things, what is your thoughts on the bidding

571
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 1>war that just took place in India for a bunch

572
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>of American former jets that we don't need anymore, and

573
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the new s or SUIT thirty five's or whatever the

574
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Russia's new jet is.

575
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.079
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't aware of a bidding war on anything, but

576
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.759
<v Speaker 5>I did hear a story that India was making their

577
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 5>own F thirty five, Like I guess they bought the

578
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.599
<v Speaker 5>rights to make it or something, and so did so

579
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 5>did Japan. Yeah, and both of them have like one

580
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 5>or two of them now F thirty five. To me,

581
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:03.799
<v Speaker 5>it seems, based on most of what I've read, that

582
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:06.480
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people don't like it. It's been too

583
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 5>expensive and it's taken too long to develop. You know,

584
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 5>the P fifty one Mustang from World War Two was

585
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.400
<v Speaker 5>it went from drawing board to production in one hundred days,

586
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 5>and F sixteen was a great fighter, but F twenty

587
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 5>two was, you know, not as good and super expensive.

588
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.119
<v Speaker 5>It took forever and F thirty five is just exponentially

589
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 5>more expensive and longer to make. That's my overall impression.

590
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 5>As far as India though, I just saw that. I

591
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 5>thought they got the rights to build one, and historically

592
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 5>they've been very close to Russia though for the Cold War,

593
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 5>so America was closer to Pakistan for much of the

594
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.880
<v Speaker 5>Cold War. And now I sense there's a realignment that

595
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 5>Pakistan's more with the Muslim world on everything, and India

596
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 5>of course really hates Pakistan and vice versa. So and

597
00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.440
<v Speaker 5>India is also pretty pro Israel in their government, so

598
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.640
<v Speaker 5>there's a a general alignment where they're with the US

599
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 5>on that front too.

600
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 1>India's kind of the wildcard as far as where their

601
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>alliances are per the year, per the decade, I should say,

602
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the year, but definitely per decade. So long

603
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 1>story short on this, India got the rights to build

604
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>their own, but the schematics that we gave them was basically.

605
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>A NERF down version of ours.

606
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>We took away all of the really cool tech that

607
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 1>is like integral to all of our stuff that's like proprietary,

608
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and we need to keep our tech in house. But

609
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>as far as the capabilities of the fighter goes and

610
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the weapon systems and things like that, cool cool, cool.

611
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 1>But they also kind of went into a I don't

612
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>want to say a bidding war, but they basically decided

613
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.079
<v Speaker 1>to host an in house air show where they were

614
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 1>going to put up the Russian new fighter, the SU

615
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 1>thirty five or whatever the case. I don't know those

616
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>schematics and numbers on that one, but I know it's

617
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the Sioux something and it's Russia's latest and greatest. They

618
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>keep calling it a six gen fighter. I don't know

619
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>why and how they're calling it that, but neither or there.

620
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And then they were trying to put it up against

621
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 1>the F thirty five, and the day or the week

622
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that it was supposed to happen, they were going to

623
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 1>try to just do a war games style mock dogfight

624
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>between the two. America decided to pull back and take

625
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 1>their fighter back, and India has now I think I'm

626
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>not mistaken. They're getting ready to buy some Russian jets,

627
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and I think I might know why a lot of

628
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 1>people are around the world are looking at America like,

629
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>oh see, you know that your jet's not as capable

630
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>as this one.

631
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 2>That's why you pull back. You don't want to get embarrassed,

632
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 2>and all these things.

633
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>India and America signed a special military alliance a couple

634
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of years back. If I'm not mistaken, we are now

635
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 1>as locked in with India as we are with Israel,

636
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 1>like on some blood oath type shit. And if they're

637
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 1>buying the Russian jets, that means that we will be

638
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 1>able to have all the schematics and all the blueprints

639
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and all the funny little secrets about that jet that

640
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:58.039
<v Speaker 1>we will be able to now.

641
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Use for our advantage. I think this was kind of

642
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<v Speaker 2>a six D chess move being played. What is everybody's

643
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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on this?

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<v Speaker 5>I guess as possible. I think we do have things

645
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:16.200
<v Speaker 5>to learn from Russian technology. And by the way, the

646
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 5>sue Koy aircraft is the Sue fifty seven. That's de

647
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:23.880
<v Speaker 5>lining about it right now Algeria. But you know something,

648
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 5>there's a sou fifty seven and Algeria right now. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that would be smart, if if, if we could learn

650
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.480
<v Speaker 5>the secrets of that machine. Uh. The other the main

651
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.599
<v Speaker 5>weapon that I think that the US needs to learn

652
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 5>more about and catch up on is hypersonic missiles. There's

653
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 5>these missiles. There's a couple different designs, but basically it's

654
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 5>like a cruise missile but at the last, you know,

655
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 5>a few miles before it hits the target, it turns

656
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.640
<v Speaker 5>on a rocket that accelerates it up to like MACK

657
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 5>five so that anti missile defense systems can't shoot it down.

658
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 5>So the US doesn't really have that yet. Russia's got

659
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.519
<v Speaker 5>it in Iran, and I think China have it.

660
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 3>But.

661
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 1>America doesn't have that that we're talking about.

662
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 5>Or maybe maybe we kept it a secret better.

663
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, even still, Russia keeps going on and

664
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>on about their hypersonic capabilities and yet none of it's

665
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>been tested, none of it's been successful. They gave one

666
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>to Iran and it was a dud. Now it's possible

667
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 1>that it was that one in particular might have been

668
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 1>a dud, or the people that fired it didn't know

669
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>what they were doing because it's Iran.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very possible ivaically, remember that Iran did launch some

671
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 5>missiles at Israel. They launched a bunch of bad ones

672
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 5>that were kind of like decoys meant to get shot down,

673
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 5>and they launched I thought a couple hypersonics too, and

674
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 5>I think Russia's also used a couple in Ukraine and

675
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 5>specifically on Hei Mar's Ukrainian well US missile defense in Ukraine,

676
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 5>they used the hypersonic to hit the hi Mars system.

677
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 5>But what read about I think it was. But this

678
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 5>is like a year or two ago. My memory is

679
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 5>a little rusty on this.

680
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fair.

681
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I've only heard anything about the Russian beating their chest

682
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>about the hypersonics here in the last like six months

683
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.639
<v Speaker 1>or so. And I don't know if that's just because

684
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>if what they're claiming is true, they've had them developed

685
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>for quite some time, but I don't know if they

686
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>were able to I don't want to say mass produce them,

687
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's they're not exactly producing like thousands and thousands

688
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>by any means. But I just for whatever reason, if

689
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, they couldn't produce the number of them

690
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>to like put them on the front lines by any means.

691
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it was more of the It was still

692
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>in the prototype phase and they're trying to now get

693
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 1>it ready to do the mass production, or maybe they

694
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>have in the past few months.

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00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know. I I would love to

696
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 2>see what happens with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, what I read also is they were reticent to

698
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.400
<v Speaker 5>use them because they know that if they start using them,

699
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 5>then the US and NATO are going to see these

700
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.400
<v Speaker 5>missiles getting used, and then our people will be able

701
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 5>to come up with defense strategies against them. So that's

702
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 5>another reason why they don't really want to use them

703
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 5>unless they feel the need to.

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00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like a bluff, though, Well, I.

705
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 5>Mean maybe I wonder if the you well, it's kind

706
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 5>of like how the US doesn't just give Ukraine every

707
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, offensive and defensive system all at once. You know,

708
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 5>we know that the Russians can learn our secrets too,

709
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 5>just from the use of these weapons. And also there's

710
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 5>we want to maintain escalation dominance. We want to maintain

711
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.239
<v Speaker 5>the ability to say, well we escalate a little bit now,

712
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 5>and then a little bit more a week from now,

713
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 5>and then a little bit more a month from now,

714
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.760
<v Speaker 5>and we don't want to escalate all the way all

715
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 5>at once.

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00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, that's why we get into high mars,

717
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>which have been, by our defense levels, very antiquated technology.

718
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 1>But I mean for most of the world, high mars

719
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>are like cutting edge shit. So I'm with you on

720
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that one for sure. It's very possible that Russia is

721
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>holding this one close to their chest for their own

722
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>personal defense in case it's needed.

723
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a possibility. Yeah, well, all right, what.

724
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Else we got to talk about tonight, y'all? Have we

725
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>have gone down to the drone conversation? We're talking about

726
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Russia versus US things. The India almost dogfight war game

727
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 1>that almost took place.

728
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that was a fascinating one anyway.

729
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Which still that's kind of that only happened within the

730
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>last seven days, So I'm very interested to see if

731
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 1>India actually does make.

732
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 2>A move on that.

733
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, although the fact that they have that's

734
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 1>height of an alliance with US. The fact that they're

735
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.519
<v Speaker 1>looking to Russia to buy equipment is strange to me.

736
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's not just because I'm anti Russia. I'm saying, like,

737
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 1>if that was the case, you would think they would

738
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>only want to buy from US.

739
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Japan in the same regard. But yeah, that's

740
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.639
<v Speaker 2>another one. Japan's beefing up their military, which is something

741
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't supposed to be allowed for quite some time

742
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>after World War Two, but you know, Japanese military is

743
00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>back on the menu. Boys, I guess we'll see.

744
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:07.920
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, where do you think this uh doze investigations

745
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.880
<v Speaker 4>are going to lead off to? What do you think

746
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 4>is the next target?

747
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.199
<v Speaker 1>I hope it's the Department of Education and they gut it,

748
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like absolutely gut it and take it out of the

749
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 1>federal level. That's that's ridiculous to me. I just I'm

750
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>happy to see the government fluff getting taken out. There's

751
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that are saying that, like, it

752
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter even if that does happen. It's not like

753
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the money's gonna go to better uses. They're just gonna

754
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>find some other useless organization to stick it into. And

755
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I get that, and I mean, to some level that's true.

756
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm also very hopeful. And it's not like this

757
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 1>is gonna doze is not going to lower our taxes.

758
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't personally believe.

759
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>That it may, but I am happy to see that

760
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the wasteful government spending is being brought to light, and

761
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>that the guilty parties, I'm not even saying get brought

762
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to justice. Just fire them, just them and get them

763
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 1>out of the positions they're in. I'm happy as hell

764
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>about that.

765
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how far they're gonna go with it.

766
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>They keep saying like all the way, didn't Elon and

767
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Trump just make a big statement about that as well? Uh,

768
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Elon had his kid in the Oval office with them.

769
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:19.199
<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually watch what was said. Do you remember

770
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 1>what they were talking about in there?

771
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 4>They were just going over a bunch of stuff what

772
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.000
<v Speaker 4>they found, and you know, like one hundred and fifty

773
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.519
<v Speaker 4>year olds on Social Security collecting for like the last

774
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 4>however long they had government contracts that were for like

775
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.719
<v Speaker 4>three months, six months a year, but they're still paying

776
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 4>the person over twenty years. You know, Just just a

777
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 4>bunch of stuff like that, and then you know they're

778
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of poking at uh. You know, there's some politicians

779
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 4>that make what two hundred and eighty five thousand, but

780
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 4>now they're magically millionaires, you know, so they're they're they're

781
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 4>they're looking into invest gating, like you know, Nancy Pelosi

782
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:04.280
<v Speaker 4>and all them.

783
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:12.320
<v Speaker 1>That makes you very happy, Oh Pelosi yourself. Yeah, she

784
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>she absolutely needs to be investigated, and her husband and

785
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Mitch McConnell a, pretty much anybody over sixty five that's

786
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>in DC. I think we just need to we're right

787
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>off the rip, launch an investigation on them. Just guilty

788
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>by association at this point. But yeah, that's excellent.

789
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm I honestly didn't know that DOGE

790
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:37.599
<v Speaker 2>was going to be this effective this quickly. I had

791
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot of high hopes, but there hasn't been a

792
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of precedence to leave me to believe that this

793
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 2>was going to be as successful as it already has been.

794
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 1>So now that it has shown to be this successful

795
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 1>this fast, I honestly don't know the how far this

796
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.800
<v Speaker 1>will go, Like on some very real levels, that they

797
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>were to stop right now, just to day they decide

798
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to do away with DOGE. They've already shown this much

799
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>fraud and this much corruption, and you can't unshow that. So,

800
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean they as far as bringing certain things to light,

801
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>they did their job. As far as saving the United

802
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>States people money, I mean, sky's the limit here.

803
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>We have an annual budget.

804
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>As far as our tax dollars go of was like

805
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>four hundred trillion billion, something ridiculous like that, some ungodly

806
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>number that most people can't even fathom. To find the

807
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.199
<v Speaker 1>cracks where all that money has been leaking out for

808
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 1>the past few decades, this last century. I couldn't be happier.

809
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 1>We shall see what happens with it, though.

810
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 5>Many up in front of me, the US federal spending

811
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 5>is seven trillion dollars a year, tax revenue is five trillion,

812
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:53.039
<v Speaker 5>and the budget deficit is two trillion dollars per year,

813
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 5>and the national debt is thirty six trillion dollars right now.

814
00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, I thought about that too the

815
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>other day.

816
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 1>As we have the debt clock that every second is

817
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 1>just racking up more and more debt per this per

818
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>second as those is doing their shit, I'm wondering if

819
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that will ever just stop. I don't know if that's

820
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.599
<v Speaker 1>going to start going down at any point. I hope,

821
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I hope, But I'm also just curious if, like out

822
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, that debt clock is going to just stop

823
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 1>for even a minute, that would be just inconceivable.

824
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Gains as far as our tax dollars are concerned.

825
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 5>I think last time there was a budget surplus was

826
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:34.599
<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety five or so, when the Republicans to control

827
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 5>of Congress and the demographics are more in the favor

828
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 5>of it. But yeah, it's like trillions of dollars a

829
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 5>year now. Social Security and mandatory spending are the main contributors.

830
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, we're kind of screwed. And the Federal Reserve

831
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 5>does have some incentive to keep printing money for it.

832
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 5>But you know, I used to be the super libertarian

833
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.480
<v Speaker 5>and super anti fed. I still kind of am. But

834
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:02.119
<v Speaker 5>you think Own powells better than Jane at Yellen, and

835
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 5>the Federal Reserve right now is better than the well,

836
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 5>the Treasury Department. I think the Treasury has more of

837
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 5>an incentive to inflate money, and Jerome Powell's trying to

838
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 5>actually give us better money and higher interest rates, which

839
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 5>are less conducive to quick growth but more you know,

840
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 5>long term, stable higher interest rates.

841
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that. I was.

842
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I was a libertarian for a very long time, and

843
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess for social issues, I guess I would call

844
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 1>myself more libertarian. But as far as the system of

845
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>government goes, the problem is that depending on which libertarian

846
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about They either want everybody to be homesteaders

847
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>or they want actual anarchy, and that neither of which

848
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.800
<v Speaker 1>would be successful for the largest and most powerful country

849
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>on earth to try to have as a as a

850
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>MO It's it's just it's not a sustainable system.

851
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:58.800
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a great idea.

852
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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't I don't trust people enough to

853
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 1>have responsibility enough to take care of themselves.

854
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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

855
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 1>That's that to have a true libertarian society like they're

856
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about, would mean that every human being has to

857
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>take responsibility for theirselves their well being. No more insurance

858
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 1>companies you're not well. What happens if I get sick?

859
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>You either go to the doctor and you afford it

860
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>or you die. Like and that's just the way that is,

861
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:27.159
<v Speaker 1>And that's not sustainable. There's too many people that either

862
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a can't take care of themselves and point the finger

863
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>at a number of reasons why that may be, or

864
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, pointed out the medical system for being too expensive,

865
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:37.679
<v Speaker 1>and I like, you see what I'm saying. It's like

866
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the system is already so ingrained that it's I wouldn't

867
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 1>say impossible, but it would never work to swap over

868
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to that system, but yeah, it's.

869
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.519
<v Speaker 5>Probably not possible on a very large scale because people

870
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:51.920
<v Speaker 5>have a sinful nature, and kind of the same way,

871
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:57.119
<v Speaker 5>communism presupposes that, well, what if we could just teach everybody,

872
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 5>educate everybody not to be greedy, wouldn't that be an Yeah,

873
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 5>maybe that would be nice. But libertarianism kind of presupposes

874
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.559
<v Speaker 5>what if we could educate everybody not to initiate force

875
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 5>into abide by the non aggression principle. Yeah, that'd be great,

876
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 5>that'd be fantastic, But that people have a simple nature

877
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:20.320
<v Speaker 5>and there's always gonna be somebody who's willing to commit

878
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.639
<v Speaker 5>violence in order to take power. And power just exists,

879
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 5>so somebody is gonna have it. And even if you

880
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 5>have a free market economy that's very powerful, that's just

881
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 5>going to increase the motivation for somebody to take over it.

882
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 5>So whoever takes over it, I just hope that they're

883
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:35.920
<v Speaker 5>my friend.

884
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that seems to be the going trend, right, Like

885
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>we just we hope whoever's taking charge of next is

886
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna fuck us less than the alternative, you know, I mean, Trump.

887
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Being the guy that he is.

888
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of been my thought process on this I

889
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:52.639
<v Speaker 1>got into with my mom this past weekend.

890
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.599
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, almost have got into it.

891
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 1>But we have a difference of opinions because I am

892
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of the belief that Trump is like not a good guy.

893
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:04.760
<v Speaker 1>He's a great candidate, and he's gonna do well in

894
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the position and in the job that he's in. But like,

895
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.159
<v Speaker 1>it's not like he's some sort of like morals, morally

896
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:17.079
<v Speaker 1>upright gentleman and he's like just a stand abastion of ethics,

897
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 1>like no, no, he's a businessman like that. Morals and

898
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>ethics very rarely come into play in business. So I

899
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>just I don't see that as being a thing that

900
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 1>we need to look forward to on that front. However,

901
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I do think that America's bottom dollar is gonna be

902
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a little fatter during his term, you know what I mean.

903
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>It's it's the lesser of two evils kind of thing.

904
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, all right, let's see here, Raven Lee,

905
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining us this evening, and she has

906
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.400
<v Speaker 1>dropped a couple of bombs over here into the comments section.

907
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's see from Future Tech worse than an atomic bomb.

908
00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Panic grows over japan labs handling deadliest virus viruses excuse me. Ohkay, sure,

909
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>that's something that we needed to have on our bingo card. Actually,

910
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I think it is on the culture conspiracy bingo card.

911
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's see here. A plans laboratory at Nagasaki University to

912
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:18.360
<v Speaker 1>study deadly viruses like ebola and.

913
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Marburg. Okay, I've never heard of that.

914
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 1>One has sparked fears of another pandemic in Japan, despite

915
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 1>official assurances residents and residents and nedicins, I didn't know

916
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that was a word. Nedicin's excuse me, worry about potential leaks,

917
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>comparing the risk to an atomic bomb. The concern stems

918
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>from past speculation about the Wuhan Labs role in the

919
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen pandemic plan demic in Japan's lack of domestic

920
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.320
<v Speaker 1>research facilities during that crisis. The New Bio the New

921
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Bio Safety Level four BSL four facility, delayed for fifteen years,

922
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>is currently in trial mode without active virus research. Officials

923
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>claim such safety measures prevent leaks, but public skepticism Jesus Christ,

924
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 1>this is such small writing in my eyes have gone

925
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 1>worse and worse as the years gone by.

926
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Forgive me, good.

927
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>People, but public skepticism remains high, especially given Japan's experience

928
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:32.719
<v Speaker 1>with the Fukushima disaster. Citizens, including manga artists Mayoma Karate Sure,

929
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:36.800
<v Speaker 1>have urged the government to address public concerns. The manga

930
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 1>artist has spoken in on the subject. Ladies and gentlemen,

931
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not trying to dismiss that. Mangas or manga

932
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>how you pronounce it. It's it's art for some people.

933
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>While some have sarcastically suggested place in the lab near

934
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 1>political leaders homes if it is truly safe, Yo, Now

935
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that's a thought. I like that a lot. As a

936
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, do these bile they're so safe? Put

937
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 1>it next to the royal palace.

938
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 2>They don't have a royal palace in Japan anymore. I

939
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 2>understand that.

940
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>But you see what I'm saying, Like, yeah, put it

941
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.039
<v Speaker 1>next to the President's house, the Prime Minister's of state.

942
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I like that a lot.

943
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 1>And if I'm not mistaken, Tony, look this one up

944
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and correct me on this Fukushima. They never actually stopped

945
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the leak, Like it's still leaking radioactive isotopes into the

946
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Sea of Japan right now, isn't.

947
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:24.519
<v Speaker 3>It every day?

948
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Every daking?

949
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 6>It's still leaking. They never actually fixed it. They minimized it,

950
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 6>but it's still leaking. And they did a whole thing

951
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.960
<v Speaker 6>on it about two years ago, Like there's actually a

952
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 6>theme that you can go and watch and it shows

953
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 6>how much that's actually been leaked every single day, and

954
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.559
<v Speaker 6>it shows how far it's spread. But they pretty much

955
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 6>try to minimize the conversation about it. But no, it's

956
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 6>still actively leaking.

957
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

958
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they have the audacity to tell America that

959
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>we need to fix our own pollution problems and stuff,

960
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.039
<v Speaker 1>which yes, I agree that he needs to. We need

961
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to do better with recycling. We need to take care

962
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:08.039
<v Speaker 1>of the earth. I agree. China and India and apparently

963
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Japan they are not doing that. They're still leaking radiation

964
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>into the ocean as we speak, and you know, that's

965
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:18.559
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting in and of itself. So, yeah, these guys

966
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>are trying to build a new biolab that's going to

967
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>be dealing with some of the world's most deadly AT viruses.

968
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I see another plandemic on the horizon, y'all.

969
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.440
<v Speaker 5>But I can't really correct you much on the Fukushima thing.

970
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:35.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure it's still leaking something. But the question is

971
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.960
<v Speaker 5>whether whether it's enough to be worth worrying about. But

972
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.840
<v Speaker 5>I can correct you on Japan still having an imperial

973
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.920
<v Speaker 5>palace because they still have an emperor. He just doesn't

974
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 5>really do anything. Yeah, still they still have one. His

975
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 5>name is Fumi Hito apparently, and it's kind of like

976
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 5>the European royal families. He's just a celebrity. He doesn't

977
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<v Speaker 5>have any political power.

978
00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea why.

979
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's like the figurehead of the of the

980
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 1>English monarchy and stuff.

981
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I think Herohita lived until like nineteen eighty

982
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 5>nine or something. You lived a long time.

983
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>They're known for their longevity the Japanese. Well that or

984
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.199
<v Speaker 1>they're known for killing themselves honorably and all of that.

985
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Or jumping from buildings, which is why all of their

986
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>high rise buildings have to have safety nets every few

987
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.039
<v Speaker 1>stories because people be jumping from them so often.

988
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:28.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they have the highest suicide rate in the world.

989
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 5>Something about the culture.

990
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing.

991
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not even like they it's not a depression thing.

992
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 1>It's like an honor thing. It's a very it's a

993
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>fascinating culture to dig into. And I mean, yes, on

994
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the Samurai side of it's sure, but even just the self,

995
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, taking yourself out, that's a whole thing. Hit

996
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the suicide forest there, if I'm not mistaken. That's where

997
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Jake Paul started being the Internet's most prolific hater. Yeah,

998
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:59.280
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Tyler, I see your hand raised. You're mute,

999
00:51:59.320 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 1>at dog.

1000
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 2>I look like that old man. Here we go, all right?

1001
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Can you hear me?

1002
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 7>Can you hear me?

1003
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Hey man, Jacob. Finally, dude, I've.

1004
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:17.400
<v Speaker 7>Been trying to jump on the Colts Live and Someone's

1005
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.719
<v Speaker 7>Live at some point, just just just to say what's up.

1006
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:22.440
<v Speaker 3>And I've been working so much overtime.

1007
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 7>Holy hell, I'm on break right now, but I just

1008
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 7>wanted to just finally jump in and just say what's up, dude,

1009
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 7>and Dudets and all the dudes over here at the

1010
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:35.880
<v Speaker 7>Occasion night and everybody else in the Colt fam.

1011
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 3>I just what's up. I'm so glad to be here

1012
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 3>and be a part of this stuff now.

1013
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Glad to have you here with us, big Dog. I

1014
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.599
<v Speaker 1>mean glad you're able to jump in and break at work.

1015
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.119
<v Speaker 1>I've learned that too. There are so many of our

1016
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>people that are working night shifts that jump in whenever

1017
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>they can. I mean, hell, I was one of them

1018
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>for a good while here. Hell, I was shooting. I

1019
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 1>was shooting episodes on my night shifts when the time

1020
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.119
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't allow for anything else. So I feel that one

1021
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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, hell yeah, dude, But hopefully it shouldn't last long.

1023
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.320
<v Speaker 7>I was able at the very first Cult Live. I

1024
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 7>get home and you guys have like an hour and

1025
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.039
<v Speaker 7>a half or so left, and I didn't.

1026
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't.

1027
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 7>I didn't have my headphones, so I just had to

1028
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.719
<v Speaker 7>sit and spectate. But dude, I, oh my gosh, I'm

1029
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 7>gonna be bugging the fuck out next week.

1030
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:24.639
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait.

1031
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed, bro, can't wait to see you there. And again,

1032
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining in tonight.

1033
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1034
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, I'm gonna still hang out, but I probably won't

1035
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.639
<v Speaker 7>be able to talk as much, but but I'll chime

1036
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:39.840
<v Speaker 7>in as much as I can.

1037
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.440
<v Speaker 3>How am I going breaks you guys are still.

1038
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 7>Alive, I'll holler but anyways, my bad let me. I'll

1039
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.719
<v Speaker 7>get back to it and I'll keep But I just

1040
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:50.599
<v Speaker 7>wanted to say what stuff? And I love y'all. And

1041
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.559
<v Speaker 7>I listened to every episode from day one, and I

1042
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:58.440
<v Speaker 7>have I have some fans got so just I love it.

1043
00:53:59.519 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

1044
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.400
<v Speaker 2>We love you and we should appreciate the support.

1045
00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:07.599
<v Speaker 3>So hell yeah, absolutely absolutely, Tony.

1046
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 2>What you looking up over there, brother.

1047
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking up how many beckels and paida beckels and

1048
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.159
<v Speaker 5>millis siverts of radiation came out of Fukushima and it

1049
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:18.280
<v Speaker 5>depends how far away you live from it, And it

1050
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:22.079
<v Speaker 5>just I don't know how to make all this data

1051
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 5>makes sense because I don't know these units super well.

1052
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 5>I should. Actually, I have a radiation meter that I

1053
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 5>used for my job, and I have to make sure

1054
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:35.719
<v Speaker 5>that X ray machines emit less than zero point five

1055
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:38.320
<v Speaker 5>mm per hour because that's the legal limit here.

1056
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1057
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 5>I forget how that converts to seaverts and what's safe

1058
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 5>and what's unsafe. So if you give me time, I

1059
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 5>can get back to you on that later.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, fair enough? Fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>My only experience is with radiation itself, as far as

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00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>an industry goes, would be in either a X ray

1063
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 1>machines or B I was working at Dow Chemical for

1064
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit there, and we were doing a turnaround

1065
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 1>on a unit that should not have had anything radioactive

1066
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:06.800
<v Speaker 1>within it at all. And uh for reasons unbeknownst to

1067
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>me because at the time I was not I was

1068
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:12.440
<v Speaker 1>in school, I think for process tech. I hadn't gone

1069
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:16.039
<v Speaker 1>in for my instrumentation degree yet. And I remember they

1070
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>shut down the turnaround. This was it was turning a

1071
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 1>two point four million dollar a day unit into a four.

1072
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Point eight million dollar a day unit.

1073
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 1>And so every day that this thing was down was

1074
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 1>costing big money, right, So they shut it down for

1075
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:35.159
<v Speaker 1>like three consecutive days in the middle of a shutdown,

1076
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:37.800
<v Speaker 1>which was like when I say shut down on a shutdown,

1077
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 1>they shut the unit down to do a bunch of

1078
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 1>big maintenance to it in big upgrades and all this stuff.

1079
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And for three days they told everybody to not clock

1080
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>in and we couldn't figure out why. They had apparently

1081
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>found some pipe that was emitting radiation. And that's not

1082
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.519
<v Speaker 1>good because this is it was an LHC two unit

1083
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.199
<v Speaker 1>or LAC three light hydrocarbon two.

1084
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:03.039
<v Speaker 2>So I mean we're talking about the the lighter.

1085
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Components of when you distill, you know, hydrocarbons from crude oil.

1086
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Talking about your methanes and ethanes and and oh, what's

1087
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.119
<v Speaker 1>the three one?

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00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:16.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1089
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 5>Quatrain yet heane heptane.

1090
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:24.599
<v Speaker 2>It's been a while since I did organics.

1091
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:27.119
<v Speaker 1>That used to be my shit. I misorganic chemistry. I

1092
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.880
<v Speaker 1>actually enjoyed that class. But anyway, so it was like

1093
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the lighter components of these and a couple of these

1094
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>pipes had radiation emitting from them, and they shut everything

1095
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.280
<v Speaker 1>down to bring out people with the meters and all this,

1096
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.760
<v Speaker 1>And I learned what NORMS is naturally occurring radioactive material.

1097
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.679
<v Speaker 1>And while that is a thing that does happen in

1098
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:51.679
<v Speaker 1>very rare situations, they still never were able to give

1099
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.760
<v Speaker 1>us a clear description as to why stainless steel and

1100
00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 1>carbon steel pipes with LHC running through it was somehow

1101
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:02.719
<v Speaker 1>able to start producing.

1102
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Its own radioactive isotopes.

1103
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>They never really gave us a good description on that.

1104
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:10.800
<v Speaker 1>But three days later they said, oh, it's all good,

1105
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:13.039
<v Speaker 1>go back to work. What about the radiation. It's not

1106
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.079
<v Speaker 1>enough to hurt you. Get back to work. It's like, yeah, yeah,

1107
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that sounds about right. That's industry for you.

1108
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, we can measure amounts of radiation that are

1109
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.960
<v Speaker 5>way smaller than anything that can hurt you. And I'm

1110
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 5>just looking this up through AI, Google's AI. The Annual

1111
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 5>Radiation dose limit for workers. It's zero point zero five seaverts,

1112
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.960
<v Speaker 5>which would be fifty millisieverts or fifty thousand micro seaverts.

1113
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.880
<v Speaker 5>And what came out of Fukushima at a distance of

1114
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:42.480
<v Speaker 5>thirty kilometers was three two, one hundred and seventy micro seaverts.

1115
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 5>So it sounds pretty small to me, but definitely measurable.

1116
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:51.679
<v Speaker 5>As for radioactive stuff in petroleum, it's probably just coming

1117
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.079
<v Speaker 5>from way under the Earth's surface because there's a lot

1118
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:57.119
<v Speaker 5>of radioactive stuff down there. That's in fact why the

1119
00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 5>Earth can stay as warm as it does, because the

1120
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:02.760
<v Speaker 5>Earth it's more heat energy into space than it absorbs

1121
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:06.400
<v Speaker 5>from the Sun because we've got lots of unburnt or

1122
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:10.800
<v Speaker 5>un you know, fizsile, uranium and stuff way down in

1123
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 5>the core that keeps the center of the Earth so high.

1124
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:18.639
<v Speaker 5>And if we didn't have that, our core would have

1125
00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 5>frozen a long time ago. We wouldn't have the magnetic field,

1126
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 5>and we wouldn't be able to live on Earth because

1127
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 5>we'd be getting a lot more solarate radiation through the

1128
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:30.400
<v Speaker 5>atmosphere and because it wouldn't be redirected away from the

1129
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 5>Earth by the magnetic field. So that's all good, and

1130
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, I've I've read somewhere that there's these old

1131
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:41.079
<v Speaker 5>baths in Japan and an ancient rome where they have

1132
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 5>a lot of rad on so it's enough not to

1133
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.199
<v Speaker 5>kill you, but to be noticeable and higher than the background.

1134
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:49.960
<v Speaker 5>So some people speculate a little bit of this radiation

1135
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.960
<v Speaker 5>might actually be good for you. And I work on

1136
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:55.639
<v Speaker 5>X rays, I mentioned, but X rays.

1137
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:57.920
<v Speaker 2>A little bit of radiation be good for you, Doug.

1138
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:02.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, a little bit of alpha beta particles. Actually,

1139
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:04.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know a hell of a lot about it,

1140
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:08.360
<v Speaker 5>but yeah, X ray is an example of ionizing radiation,

1141
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.719
<v Speaker 5>and I do work with that. But one great thing

1142
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.960
<v Speaker 5>about X ray analyzers is if you turn off the electricity,

1143
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.199
<v Speaker 5>there's no radiation coming out of it, unlike some instruments

1144
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:22.400
<v Speaker 5>that use radioactive elopments like amrisium. Yeah, okay, I feel bad.

1145
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:24.840
<v Speaker 5>I kind of interrupted a little bit. Zombie head or

1146
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:25.320
<v Speaker 5>hand up.

1147
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:27.360
<v Speaker 2>No, No, you're good. I was gonna say, actually, to

1148
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>your point, that makes more sense that it would come

1149
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 2>from crude oil.

1150
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Who is witch is bouncing around with other natural radioactive

1151
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.760
<v Speaker 1>sources under the earth. I was talking to later on

1152
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 1>after I left that job site and everything. One of

1153
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 1>my professors at the college actually retired from DAL from

1154
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.599
<v Speaker 1>that unit, And as soon as I brought up the norms,

1155
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:48.599
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, yeah, that happens about every ten years

1156
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:50.199
<v Speaker 1>or so. You got to take everything down and put

1157
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>new stuff up. And I'm like, wait why, He's like,

1158
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.599
<v Speaker 1>because that unit, it just the pipe after a while

1159
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 1>goes slightly radioactive, and just to make sure everything's on

1160
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the up and up, they'll revamp everything. And he couldn't

1161
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>explain to me why that was. But apparently that was

1162
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:07.280
<v Speaker 1>a very normal thing for now. So okay, that kind

1163
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of makes sense, but uh, go ahead, they're raven.

1164
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Your hand was raised.

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01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:18.360
<v Speaker 6>I was reading about. So in twenty twenty three, they

1166
01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:23.039
<v Speaker 6>released an article talking about the disasters of like the

1167
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:26.599
<v Speaker 6>biggest concern is the tanks that are still there, so

1168
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 6>they have like in twenty eleven was when they contaminated

1169
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:36.440
<v Speaker 6>water started to like slow over and they still haven't

1170
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:39.800
<v Speaker 6>handled it. As of two twenty three, the tanks are

1171
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:42.440
<v Speaker 6>like ninety six percent full, which is like one point

1172
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:47.719
<v Speaker 6>three one point thirty seven million tons of just one

1173
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:51.280
<v Speaker 6>in one and pretty much the pipes connect to the

1174
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 6>coastal water pools that they have and the problem is

1175
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:57.639
<v Speaker 6>is that they're leaking over because they don't They actually

1176
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:01.000
<v Speaker 6>haven't done anything with the water. And pretty much what

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01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:03.679
<v Speaker 6>it says is that the community is around them. If

1178
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:06.239
<v Speaker 6>the tanks, the massive tanks, are the most disturbing thing.

1179
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:10.039
<v Speaker 6>Next time the water leaks out anymore by accident, the

1180
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:12.360
<v Speaker 6>fishing will be completely done. And pretty much it talks

1181
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.719
<v Speaker 6>about how the fishing in the area has already been destroyed.

1182
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:18.679
<v Speaker 6>The radioactive like they found it in like all of

1183
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 6>the sea life around there for miles and miles. It'll

1184
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:25.320
<v Speaker 6>take forty years to decommission the process, but they haven't

1185
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.199
<v Speaker 6>even begun it. It's a whole it's a whole thing.

1186
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:31.519
<v Speaker 6>So like pretty much is just sitting there stagnant and

1187
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:36.159
<v Speaker 6>then collecting more radioactive waste that is spewing over and

1188
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.280
<v Speaker 6>they don't really know what to do with it.

1189
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:43.159
<v Speaker 1>So wow, Okay, Now, like you were saying, Tony, a

1190
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit leaking into the ocean, which is like negligible

1191
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 1>after a couple of miles, that's one thing. And I

1192
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:51.480
<v Speaker 1>get that as far as like an accident goes, the slow,

1193
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 1>steady leak over time, coupled with what she just brought up,

1194
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I could see that being a bit more of an issue.

1195
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 1>But and this thing, I don't know if Japan's not

1196
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:02.840
<v Speaker 1>fixing it because they don't care or because they actually

1197
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:05.519
<v Speaker 1>don't have a viable solution for this problem.

1198
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I honestly couldn't tell you.

1199
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:11.239
<v Speaker 6>They don't have a solution, Like they don't have enough

1200
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:13.719
<v Speaker 6>places to put the waste, at least what I'm reading

1201
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:15.960
<v Speaker 6>from it. They have another article that came out a

1202
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.239
<v Speaker 6>year later that's different, but it doesn't make much sense

1203
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:21.679
<v Speaker 6>because it's still like they're not they don't have a

1204
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:26.079
<v Speaker 6>place to put the radioactive waste from it from the tanks,

1205
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:30.119
<v Speaker 6>and they haven't really started any decommissioning of the of

1206
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.519
<v Speaker 6>the plant itself, and those pools are that's where it

1207
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 6>ended up having the tsunami come over, and that's how

1208
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:38.559
<v Speaker 6>like all of it kind of came in because it

1209
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:42.639
<v Speaker 6>was underneath and like the the tanks underneath of the

1210
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:47.159
<v Speaker 6>radioactive of the nuclear things where that's where like all

1211
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:51.039
<v Speaker 6>of it accumulated, I guess. And so yeah, they don't

1212
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:54.320
<v Speaker 6>really have a place to do anything with all damn.

1213
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I forgot about the tsunami that they experienced.

1214
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 1>That would make more sense for sure, as far as

1215
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:05.000
<v Speaker 1>why the water got so contaminated and how it became even.

1216
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:06.320
<v Speaker 2>More of a problem than it already was.

1217
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's fascinating and that sucks because I'm a big

1218
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.400
<v Speaker 1>proponent of nuclear power. I think that is absolutely the

1219
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 1>way of the future. I mean, I get it. And

1220
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:18.400
<v Speaker 1>in America we don't really have many examples of a

1221
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:22.239
<v Speaker 1>disaster like that happening, but other countries have different safety

1222
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 1>protocols that they deem to be acceptable.

1223
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:26.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know this is not.

1224
01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Fair comparing this to Chernobyl, because that's a whole separate

1225
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:33.039
<v Speaker 1>situation and that's something that they also didn't really have

1226
01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a solution for, so they just kind of buried it

1227
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:38.039
<v Speaker 1>all in a cement tomb and they're just waiting on

1228
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the nuclear fire to go out before they can do

1229
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:43.000
<v Speaker 1>anything else. But even to that point, there are people

1230
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that will go to Chernobyl right now with their meters

1231
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:48.679
<v Speaker 1>and they'll show areas that are higher in radioactive material

1232
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and activity and other areas that.

1233
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Are not so much. And yeah, wild things, wild things.

1234
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:58.480
<v Speaker 1>This is all part of the reason why people are

1235
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:02.239
<v Speaker 1>scared of nuclear power, and I think that that's it's

1236
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:04.719
<v Speaker 1>understandable why people would be scared of it. But I

1237
01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:06.880
<v Speaker 1>still think it's the cleanest and the best thing having

1238
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:11.719
<v Speaker 1>happening moving forward as far as energy creation is concerned.

1239
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:17.119
<v Speaker 1>But damn Okay, so the Fukushima situation is still underway.

1240
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 2>One hundred tony, you find anything on your end?

1241
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:25.679
<v Speaker 5>Uh No, I've found a lot of data, but it's overwhelming.

1242
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:28.079
<v Speaker 5>So I'll just demure.

1243
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:29.679
<v Speaker 1>About to say, if you're if you're able to break

1244
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.039
<v Speaker 1>it down to Layman's terms, go for it. But I

1245
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like most people don't even understand the units of

1246
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:38.000
<v Speaker 1>measure that you're even speaking on, so it's it's hard

1247
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:38.519
<v Speaker 1>to compare.

1248
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:45.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's beckerels, there's uh the seaverts, there's rem Rentkin

1249
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:50.360
<v Speaker 5>equivalent in Man. That's just units, and people argue about

1250
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:53.840
<v Speaker 5>what is really a safe level in a like a

1251
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.440
<v Speaker 5>day or a week or a year. I don't know,

1252
01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:59.679
<v Speaker 5>so I'll have to get back to you later.

1253
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.199
<v Speaker 1>That's fair, And again I think it also depends on

1254
01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:05.519
<v Speaker 1>what country you're in. Like certain countries we have in

1255
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 1>this country, X ray texts have to leave the room

1256
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:09.679
<v Speaker 1>before they hit the button because if they do that

1257
01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>all day, every day, it's very possible they'll get some

1258
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.280
<v Speaker 1>side effects from it. Other countries may not have certain

1259
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:18.000
<v Speaker 1>safety protocols even for their medical staffers, let alone the

1260
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.239
<v Speaker 1>people working in their nuclear sites. So I mean, it

1261
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:23.880
<v Speaker 1>really depends on the source of where that article was written,

1262
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:28.039
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So yeah, interesting stuff, and

1263
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:31.199
<v Speaker 1>we definitely need to keep an eye on the Fukushima situation.

1264
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Let's see. Raven also sent another article in here. It

1265
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:40.000
<v Speaker 1>says world's first three D printed neural tissue grows.

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<v Speaker 2>And functions like a human brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, for the love of God, Okay, researchers have created

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<v Speaker 1>the first functional three D printed brain tissue that can

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<v Speaker 1>develop and form connections in the same way as.

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<v Speaker 2>Real human brain tissue. That's pretty scary.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I keep reading here, Anthony, go ahead, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>your hand is raised.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, I just was double checking something, looking at something.

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<v Speaker 8>We're talking about politics and every and everything. Uh So

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<v Speaker 8>I found a clip. It's on Instagram. I don't know

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<v Speaker 8>how to freaking share shit on my freaking phone that

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<v Speaker 8>this fucking thing is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>See if you can copy and paste it into the

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<v Speaker 1>chat and I'll play it if.

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<v Speaker 3>I should be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 8>Hold on, because yeah, this thing, this thing is crazy,

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<v Speaker 8>because this this chick is out of pocket like.

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<v Speaker 2>A good way or a bad way, no bad way

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<v Speaker 2>on a side.

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<v Speaker 8>Note, on the side, So I'm gonna post this in

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<v Speaker 8>the chat right now.

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<v Speaker 3>On a side note.

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<v Speaker 8>I also just watched the news clip that a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of guys went missing and then we're found dead searching

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<v Speaker 8>for Bigfoot literally right up the road.

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<v Speaker 2>We heard about that, right outside of Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, And you tell me, is it more likely

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<v Speaker 1>that some homeless vagrants killed them and robbed them or

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<v Speaker 1>that the sam Squanche actually tore these dudes limb from limb.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Okay, so me.

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<v Speaker 8>And in the Pacific Northwest, the two main floor unquote

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<v Speaker 8>hotspots for bigfoot is I'm gonna slaughter the name Gifford

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<v Speaker 8>Pinchent National Park and Mount Hood National Forest. These guys

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<v Speaker 8>went missing in Gifford Pinchet National National Park, which is

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<v Speaker 8>actually the same national.

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<v Speaker 2>Forest area where I forget the guy's.

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<v Speaker 8>Name, but he's the one that started Sasquatch chronicles. That's

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<v Speaker 8>where he had his Bigfoot sightings, his alleged bigfoot sighting.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's it's it's a whole, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 8>Far enough out that the likelihood of it being some

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<v Speaker 8>vagrants is slim. I wouldn't say him. I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 8>it's impossible, but it's a greater than zero percent chance,

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<v Speaker 8>but I would say less than five.

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<v Speaker 6>WOWI fit's so real.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's not real. I'm just but do

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<v Speaker 2>we believe that that's what killed the hikers?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, look, I'm born and raised in the Portland area.

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<v Speaker 8>I've been almost everywhere within about one hundred and one

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<v Speaker 8>hundred and fifty miles of his damn place. Uh and

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<v Speaker 8>I have seen a lot of weird shit in my time.

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<v Speaker 8>H Like, I'm gonna be honest, when Bill Gates talks

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<v Speaker 8>about getting rid of half of the population depending on

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<v Speaker 8>the day, I am open to having the conversation. But

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<v Speaker 8>uh no, I mean there's like people always hear, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>Portland keep it weird, and they're thinking, like all the

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<v Speaker 8>LGBT shit, Like, No, there's a lot of darker, weird

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<v Speaker 8>shit that happens in and around this area.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm all about keeping things weird, but also Portland

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01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.039
<v Speaker 1>keeps it too weird. I think we as regular saying

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<v Speaker 1>human beings can all acknowledge that, right, Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not letting me open up the Instagram it's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make me log in, and then it's trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>me oh, here we go. Finally, Jesus, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>That took way too long. All right, so let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and do that. I'm gonna share the screen at

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<v Speaker 1>this time, and let's let's explore this, uh, this crazy

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<v Speaker 1>person from that area.

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Ayana Presley openly admits she's willing to work with anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to censor Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's dive in, shall we.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm rich here, I'll speak on behalf of my colleagues.

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<v Speaker 9>Something I can say. We are all willing to work

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<v Speaker 9>with anyone who's serious about doing the work of censoring

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<v Speaker 9>the American people and advancing progress.

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<v Speaker 3>But they are not sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's one negates the other on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna censor America and have forward progress? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you you can't do that. That's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>counterproductive to week.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that depends on your definition of progress. What what

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<v Speaker 8>are you progressing towards.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very good point, okay, And that's a is

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<v Speaker 1>that like an elected person in that area?

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<v Speaker 8>No, So I look, man, I've just been on one

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<v Speaker 8>of the last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>And my Instagram feed has been.

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<v Speaker 3>Varied.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, like, look, if I'm wrong and y'all Christians are right,

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<v Speaker 8>I fucking hope my Instagram reveals are not held against me.

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<v Speaker 8>I've got I'm gonna have enough problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is a representative Ayanna Presley. Yeah she

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<v Speaker 1>is a congresswoman.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's actual adults with the right to vote and

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<v Speaker 1>all that that voted that woman into power. That's scary,

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<v Speaker 1>but all right, that would be that's Portland for you.

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<v Speaker 8>That's oh come on, Jacob, We're in a democracy. Everybody

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<v Speaker 8>has an equal right to vote, regardless of how intelligent

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<v Speaker 8>they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Its bro. That bothers me so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all about barriers to entry, you know me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan of them so so much.

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<v Speaker 8>I understand why in most states felons are not allowed

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<v Speaker 8>to vote. Yeah, Like, like, I mean, I'm doing good now,

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<v Speaker 8>but like, up until about five years ago, I was

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<v Speaker 8>not doing anything to contribute to society.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I be?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, But I also feel like there's a difference between

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<v Speaker 1>a fellon for a violent crime and a non violent crime,

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<v Speaker 1>or like a victimless crime. These types of things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's new ones.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't, I don't fall under Yeah no, I yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I fucked up, like I can't know guns. I yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>like I I fucked I fucked all the way up.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, props to you for being able to acknowledge your

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<v Speaker 1>faults and put your past, indeed in your past, and

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a better human being as a result of these things.

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<v Speaker 8>So well, look, I tell everybody my dreams failed when

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<v Speaker 8>they caught out Choppa the second time, because I knew

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<v Speaker 8>I could never do it at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but he escaped on a motorcycle on underground tunnels,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And they got him again.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, once they got the second time. Like I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>there's no like my last name is it raw Child

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<v Speaker 8>or Rockefeller? Like I got like, I got, I got

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<v Speaker 8>nothing coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard that? Heard that?

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<v Speaker 1>But I wow, that's amazing. And yes to your point

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<v Speaker 1>about people being able to vote that have no business voting,

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<v Speaker 1>Ah yeah that h h. I've spoken on that so

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<v Speaker 1>many times. At this point, I feel like I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>beating a dead horse to the point of like might

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<v Speaker 1>even beat that shit alive again. It's a yeah, I'm

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01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:28.479
<v Speaker 1>not a fan of our current political system. I don't

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01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.039
<v Speaker 1>like it, but it's the one that we were born into.

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<v Speaker 2>So here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, that woman there, so she's talking about

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01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:40.039
<v Speaker 1>censoring the American people even heavier than we already are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't support that personally. Wow, Okay, going back here,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, So let's let's pick up where we left

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<v Speaker 2>off about the first three D printed brain tissue. That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty fucking insane, uh breaking the news?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh excuse me, I mean sorry, Raven Lee, you actually

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<v Speaker 1>sent something else after that? Real quick, Let's stay on

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<v Speaker 1>the three D printed brain tissue. So are we talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like full on cyborgs, like able to have animatronic

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<v Speaker 1>feelings and brain processes, and we could mix that with

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<v Speaker 1>AI to create actual terminator things.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what's happening here? Because I'm not okay with that, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>However, if they are able to three D print brain tissue,

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01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:32.119
<v Speaker 1>that could maybe be a replacement for people that are

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<v Speaker 1>suffering from dementia or something like that, or Alzheimer's, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're able to splice in some functioning brain matter in there,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be dope.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it really depends.

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<v Speaker 6>Still, the link that I sent is the one the

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<v Speaker 6>neuroscience when it kind of explains more about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Got you?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go ahead and pull that up at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh all right, go ahead and share the screen on

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01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that one as well. Why is it pulling that up?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what I just clicked? Okay, do here we

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<v Speaker 1>are revolutionary three D printed brain tissue mimics human function.

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<v Speaker 2>Summary of it anyway. Researchers developed the world's first three

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<v Speaker 2>D printed brain tissue that grows and behaves similarly to

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<v Speaker 2>natural brain tissue, marking a significant leap forward for neurological

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<v Speaker 2>and neurodevelopmental disorder research. Hey, okay, we're on the right

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<v Speaker 2>track here.

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<v Speaker 1>This novel three D printing technique uses a horizontal layering

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<v Speaker 1>approach and a softer bio inc allowing neurons to interconnect

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<v Speaker 1>and form networks akin to human brain structures. The ability

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<v Speaker 1>to precisely control cell types and arrangements provided or provides

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<v Speaker 1>unparalleled opportunities to study brain functions and disorders in a

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<v Speaker 1>controlled environment, offering new avenues for drug testing and understanding

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<v Speaker 1>brain development and diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm I'm on board with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, as long as they will put it into robots

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we'll be okay. But as far as

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand the human mind more and map out

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01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:05.880
<v Speaker 1>human brain functions and stuff, I see that as a

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<v Speaker 1>very positive thing, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Key facts.

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<v Speaker 1>The three D printed brain tissue can form networks and

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<v Speaker 1>communicate through neurotransmitters similar to human brain interactions. This new

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<v Speaker 1>printing method allows for precise control over cell types and

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01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:21.640
<v Speaker 1>arrangements are passing capabilities of traditional.

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<v Speaker 2>Brain organoids organoids all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The technique is accessible to many labs not requiring special

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<v Speaker 1>equipment or cultural methods, and can significantly impact the study

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<v Speaker 1>of various neurological conditions and treatments.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I'm fine with our tax dollars going and funding that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do that, not you know, bearded circus ladies on

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01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:52.920
<v Speaker 1>ice singing about global warming. Let's a couple million towards

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<v Speaker 1>this group. This research group is doing seams off surface

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<v Speaker 1>anyway to be doing some very good things.

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<v Speaker 2>This article is from Februs Worry first of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, hell, if they're doing that much progress

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<v Speaker 1>in this direction and it's only been getting better from there.

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<v Speaker 2>I support that one hundred percent absolutely, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Next, the next article that Raven Lee has shared breaking news,

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<v Speaker 1>the mysterious fog is back and and private lab conducted

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<v Speaker 1>tests on the particles in the fog and discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>the fall contains large amounts of bacteria Seratia Markuskins mars

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<v Speaker 1>Eskan's sure known to cause extreme respiratory issues and hospitalizations. Alarmingly,

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01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:46.359
<v Speaker 1>it has been discovered that this same bacteria was sprayed

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01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.520
<v Speaker 1>by the US Navy in the nineteen fifties from a

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01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:52.680
<v Speaker 1>ship just off the coast of San Francisco. But it

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01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:57.720
<v Speaker 1>want it wafted inland and made the residents. The residents

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01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:02.760
<v Speaker 1>quite sick. The US Navy sprayed a bunch of particles

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01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:04.079
<v Speaker 1>in the air to make people sick.

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01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Or was that their intention?

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01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:10.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they were testing out you know, that

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01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:16.039
<v Speaker 4>chemical or what of the bacteria.

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01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in the nineteen fifties they did that, and then

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01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:24.000
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixties, San Francisco became the hippie mecca,

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01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:27.239
<v Speaker 1>and then in the nineteen seventies it became the gay Mecca.

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01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Coincidence, I think.

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01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:35.840
<v Speaker 5>Not a French town. They got cocaine or something a

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01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:42.279
<v Speaker 5>psychedelic in it's bred in the mid fifties, introduced by CIA,

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01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.880
<v Speaker 5>I think just as an experiment. Yeah, they threw a

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01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 5>bunch of some hallucinogen in the flower supply. So the

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01:18:50.920 --> 01:18:53.439
<v Speaker 5>baker made a bunch of loves of bread and everybody

1493
01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:55.680
<v Speaker 5>ate these baguettes and they all got high off of

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01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:59.880
<v Speaker 5>it unintentionally, and there were people jumping out of windows

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01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:02.680
<v Speaker 5>and they could fly. This happened somewhere in France. I

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01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:05.359
<v Speaker 5>wish I could remember the details. It's been a few years.

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01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the CIA was doing a lot of weird

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01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:16.039
<v Speaker 1>experiments with LSD and hallucinogenics during that time, and for

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01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:18.279
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of that, I could understand the research

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01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:20.720
<v Speaker 1>being done. And you wanted to test how certain things

1501
01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:24.520
<v Speaker 1>would affect random people. Okay, I don't support that obviously,

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01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:29.000
<v Speaker 1>but I understand at least why that experiment would want

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01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to get done.

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01:19:31.159 --> 01:19:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Bro, what would be the purpose, Like, what would be

1505
01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:35.239
<v Speaker 2>the goal?

1506
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:38.279
<v Speaker 1>What was the fucking hypothesis on that scientific method?

1507
01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:39.279
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Like, I, okay, let's get a bunch of people who

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01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:43.119
<v Speaker 1>loosen to genics.

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01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Just to see what happens. Sure, go ahead, Raven.

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01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:50.760
<v Speaker 6>That article. I just dropped. And there is from the

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01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:56.039
<v Speaker 6>Smiths Smithsonian's talking about that experiment from the nineteen fifties

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01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:58.520
<v Speaker 6>and spraying the bioweapons.

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01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh, here we go. All right, I'm gonna go ahead

1515
01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:04.079
<v Speaker 1>and share the screen on this one as well. We

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01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:07.319
<v Speaker 1>are just we are rolling through some great things on

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01:20:07.359 --> 01:20:08.520
<v Speaker 1>this evening, Ladies and gentlemen.

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01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:15.199
<v Speaker 1>This is from the Smithsonian magazine. In nineteen fifty, the

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01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:18.159
<v Speaker 1>US released a bioweapon in San Francisco. It was one

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01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of hundreds of bioweapons simulations carried out in the nineteen

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01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:22.920
<v Speaker 1>fifties and sixties.

1523
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:24.960
<v Speaker 2>As as a picture here.

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01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:30.800
<v Speaker 1>As part of a bioweapon experiment, Ceratia Marqus Skins sure

1525
01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:34.239
<v Speaker 1>pictured above on an alga plate.

1526
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Look at that.

1527
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Was released in San Francisco back in nineteen fifty. I'm

1528
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:42.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna just ruin that and just call it. The bacterium

1529
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:45.479
<v Speaker 1>lives in soil and water and is best known for

1530
01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:49.319
<v Speaker 1>its ability to produce bright red pigment. This flashy trait

1531
01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:52.640
<v Speaker 1>makes this particular microbe useful in experiments because it's so

1532
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:56.119
<v Speaker 1>bright it's easily it's easy to see where it is.

1533
01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen fifty, the US military harnessed that power

1534
01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in a large scale biowarfare test on This was written

1535
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>by Rebecca Creston and her blog Body Horrors for Scientific America.

1536
01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Beginning on September twenty sixth, nineteen fifty, the crew of

1537
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the US Navy Minesweepership spent six days spraying the bacterium

1538
01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:22.840
<v Speaker 1>into the air about two miles off the northern California coast.

1539
01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:26.840
<v Speaker 1>The project was called Operation Sea Spray, and its aim

1540
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:29.760
<v Speaker 1>was to determine the susceptibility of a big city like

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01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:36.720
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco to a bioweapon attack by terrorists WOW. In

1542
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the following days, the military took samples at forty three

1543
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:41.920
<v Speaker 1>sites attract the bacteria spread and found that it had

1544
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>quickly infested not only the city but the surrounding suburbs

1545
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.680
<v Speaker 1>as well. During the test, residents of these areas would

1546
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:52.840
<v Speaker 1>have inhaled millions of bacterial spores. Clearly, the test showed

1547
01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:55.680
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco and the cities with small similar sizes and

1548
01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:59.880
<v Speaker 1>topography could face germ ware warfare threats. In this regard,

1549
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the experiment was a success, writes Creston, but there was

1550
01:22:03.479 --> 01:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a catch. At the time, the US military thought that

1551
01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the bacterium couldn't harm humans. The bug was mostly known

1552
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:12.279
<v Speaker 1>for the red spots it produced on infested foods and

1553
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>had not widely been linked to clinical conditions. That changed

1554
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:18.920
<v Speaker 1>when one week after the test, eleven local residents checked

1555
01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>into Stanford University Hospital complaining of UTIs. Upon testing their

1556
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:28.319
<v Speaker 1>p doctors noticed the pathogen had a red hue. Infection

1557
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:31.800
<v Speaker 1>with the bacterium was so rare that the outbreak was

1558
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:36.159
<v Speaker 1>extensively investigated by the university to identify the origins of

1559
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the scarlet letter bug.

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01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Really, that's interesting.

1561
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:44.399
<v Speaker 1>After scientists identified the microbe, the case collectively became the

1562
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:47.920
<v Speaker 1>first recorded outbreak of this bacterium. One patient, a man

1563
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:52.039
<v Speaker 1>named Edward Nevin, who was recovering from prostate surgery, died,

1564
01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and some have suggested that the release forever change the air.

1565
01:22:55.920 --> 01:22:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, of course these ads.

1566
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Where was I'm Some have suggested that the release forever

1567
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>changed the area's micro biological ecology, as Bernadette Tanzy pointed

1568
01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:11.880
<v Speaker 1>out from the San Francisco Chronicle in two thousand and four.

1569
01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>The military performed similar tests in other cities across the

1570
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:19.039
<v Speaker 1>country over the next two decades, until Richard Nixon halted

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01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:23.279
<v Speaker 1>all germ warfare research in nineteen sixty nine San Francisco.

1572
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>The San Francisco experiment did not become public knowledge until

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01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:34.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six. Wow, that's scary for a whole plethora

1574
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:39.039
<v Speaker 1>of reasons. So they're saying that this fog might be

1575
01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:49.039
<v Speaker 1>a newer version of this. Okay, how can we tell

1576
01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>if it's the sick fog versus regular fog?

1577
01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:52.000
<v Speaker 4>Is it?

1578
01:23:52.039 --> 01:23:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Pink? I?

1579
01:23:57.359 --> 01:23:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Sorry?

1580
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.880
<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, Tony, Hey, can you actually tell Taylor Tyler

1581
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.399
<v Speaker 6>to meet himself? Because his noise is picking up?

1582
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>All you yourself? All good, brother, all good? All right? Cool? Uh, Tony,

1583
01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:18.880
<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

1584
01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:24.840
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like the fog like uh, that was very

1585
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.359
<v Speaker 4>recent right, like within like maybe like the last month

1586
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:27.760
<v Speaker 4>or two.

1587
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I remember hearing about it last year.

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01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:34.199
<v Speaker 4>Didn't like where where exactly did it go? Or like

1589
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:38.439
<v Speaker 4>what was it like the pattern of the movement in America?

1590
01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:42.079
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying, was it wasn't it everywhere? Or

1591
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:44.640
<v Speaker 4>am I thinking it about something different?

1592
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:45.439
<v Speaker 8>No?

1593
01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Because depending on the article you were read right now,

1594
01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about doing an episode on it on

1595
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the Cult of Conspiracy. But the problem was, depending on

1596
01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the source you were reading from, would tell you five

1597
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>different stories as to where it came from, what it's doing,

1598
01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and what the side effects. Me All we knew was

1599
01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that certain areas that typically didn't get that dense a fog,

1600
01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>we're getting it and people were getting sick as a result. Now,

1601
01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote official narrative would say, yes, more humidity in

1602
01:25:12.479 --> 01:25:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the air, or the hum didity as Theovonne would say.

1603
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Would uh would make you a little sicker.

1604
01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, you get the sniffle as you start coughing

1605
01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>up phlegm, and like, yeah, you'll get sick whenever you're

1606
01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in a higher fog density area.

1607
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:29.640
<v Speaker 2>But this would be different. And that's I have no idea.

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01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, we might actually have to do an episode

1609
01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>on this, because Operation Sea Spray is an interesting conspiracy

1610
01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>conspiratorial conversation I have in the first place, and how

1611
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:43.199
<v Speaker 1>that links to the current fog and things like yo one,

1612
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I could.

1613
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>See us doing a whole episode on that one.

1614
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Wow, uh okay, because I normally work outside and I

1615
01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:57.359
<v Speaker 4>remember working in like, you know, like a foggy kind

1616
01:25:57.399 --> 01:26:01.840
<v Speaker 4>of day, and if I'm not mistake, and you know,

1617
01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:04.600
<v Speaker 4>I did get the flow and I had like crazy

1618
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:10.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, uh, you know, I guess moisture inside my

1619
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:11.600
<v Speaker 4>lungs and all that, and I had to get like

1620
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:14.880
<v Speaker 4>an inhaler and all that, and they gave me like

1621
01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:19.239
<v Speaker 4>the tammy flu like capsules and all that. But uh,

1622
01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:22.720
<v Speaker 4>it was terrible. I must I was like probably I

1623
01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:26.119
<v Speaker 4>was probably sick for about like two and a half weeks,

1624
01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:28.279
<v Speaker 4>Like it just would not go away.

1625
01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Was it confirmed the flu that you had or was

1626
01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:32.239
<v Speaker 2>it just what thereating it?

1627
01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:32.479
<v Speaker 3>Like?

1628
01:26:33.399 --> 01:26:33.439
<v Speaker 5>No?

1629
01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I I went to like urgent Care and uh, you know,

1630
01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:40.439
<v Speaker 4>I got tested and it was it was a flow.

1631
01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:43.119
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like COVID, but it was like a like

1632
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:44.920
<v Speaker 4>a variant of a flu.

1633
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1634
01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:48.800
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know if I don't know, I don't

1635
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:50.520
<v Speaker 4>know if it was from the FuG or you know,

1636
01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:53.560
<v Speaker 4>because I just worked outside all the time. I'm always

1637
01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:56.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, New Jersey's been bouncing back and forth with

1638
01:26:56.439 --> 01:27:00.399
<v Speaker 4>the temperatures. One day it's like eighteen degrees, the next

1639
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.319
<v Speaker 4>night it's like fifty degrees, and it goes back then snow's.

1640
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:07.039
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm just exposed to that kind of stuff

1641
01:27:07.079 --> 01:27:07.640
<v Speaker 4>all the time.

1642
01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt, Okay, Yeah, we're gonna have to absolutely

1643
01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>do a deeper dive on that one.

1644
01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:16.600
<v Speaker 2>For the cold. Good got them money. Okay, let's go

1645
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>into the chat here a little bit.

1646
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we've all been kind of talking amongst yourselves in there,

1647
01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>so I'm trying to figure out which which ones are

1648
01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:24.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna go into next here.

1649
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

1650
01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh that was for the brain tissue. Let's see this

1651
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>one here was for that one. Super cool to be

1652
01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>able to study neuro issue.

1653
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I agree with that. Anthony had to bounce out early.

1654
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Love you Anthony, if you're listening to this on Thursday,

1655
01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>love you to death, and glad you could join in

1656
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>with this one here.

1657
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Let's see Tony you said.

1658
01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and nine, there was a book written,

1659
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>The Terrible Mistake, and author and investigative journalist Hank p.

1660
01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Abrelli Junior writes that the Special Operation Division of the

1661
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>CIA tested the LSD on the population in Paint Points.

1662
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Saw a spree in that part. Wow, so that's what

1663
01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the place was at.

1664
01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:09.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was in southern France. I heard a whole

1665
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:13.039
<v Speaker 5>podcast on this a few years ago. The initial explanation

1666
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:16.239
<v Speaker 5>up until about two thousand and nine, since nineteen fifty

1667
01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:19.399
<v Speaker 5>one was that it was ergot poisoning, and there were

1668
01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:23.000
<v Speaker 5>other accusations that, oh they mixed the grain and that

1669
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:27.239
<v Speaker 5>led to the ergot and it wasn't regulated enough, and

1670
01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:29.760
<v Speaker 5>this was still kind of post World War two and

1671
01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:32.520
<v Speaker 5>people were still in kind of a chaotic and impoverished

1672
01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:35.760
<v Speaker 5>state at the time. So it was initially blamed on

1673
01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:39.000
<v Speaker 5>ergot poisoning. And there's even been some back and forth

1674
01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:42.119
<v Speaker 5>ever since two thousand and nine with people saying, well,

1675
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 5>it couldn't have been an LSD because the effects were

1676
01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:48.199
<v Speaker 5>too delayed, But you know, maybe they just ate the

1677
01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:51.279
<v Speaker 5>loaf of bread later in the day. So I don't know,

1678
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.119
<v Speaker 5>I'm thinking there's a good chance that it was a

1679
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.960
<v Speaker 5>CIA experiment personally, yeah.

1680
01:28:57.039 --> 01:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

1681
01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:02.039
<v Speaker 1>And also, like, okay, tell me that they gave infected flower.

1682
01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I could believe this.

1683
01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you understand how lace that flower had to be

1684
01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to where basically, if you just made you a sandwich,

1685
01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>like two slices of bread was enough to get you

1686
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>fucked up like that?

1687
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:17.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's A year later, in twenty ten, the BBC

1688
01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:20.159
<v Speaker 5>had an article out about it, supporting the idea of

1689
01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:23.439
<v Speaker 5>CIA did it based on some other new document that

1690
01:29:23.560 --> 01:29:26.600
<v Speaker 5>just came out back then, And this just kind of

1691
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:29.000
<v Speaker 5>got logged away in history as oh, well, this might

1692
01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:31.239
<v Speaker 5>this might have happened, and I think, yeah, there's a

1693
01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:33.479
<v Speaker 5>pretty good chance they were doing all kinds of stuff

1694
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:37.439
<v Speaker 5>with the LSD. If you've ever you've heard a program

1695
01:29:37.439 --> 01:29:43.840
<v Speaker 5>to kill with cosmic peach, Yeah, they've tried to use

1696
01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:49.039
<v Speaker 5>mine altering drugs to make people I don't know follow

1697
01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:54.000
<v Speaker 5>allegedly assassination attempts. Israel tried to use this too, but

1698
01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:59.079
<v Speaker 5>it didn't work. But there's allegations Sirhan Sirhan had, you know,

1699
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:02.279
<v Speaker 5>mind control stuff going on. If you give people drugs,

1700
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:04.479
<v Speaker 5>you can make them very suggestible, you can make them

1701
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:09.680
<v Speaker 5>tell the truth, like with sodium pentathol. So yeah, I

1702
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:12.399
<v Speaker 5>believe this is totally something to CIA would do, especially

1703
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:13.640
<v Speaker 5>in the time period.

1704
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:15.079
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

1705
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>But why France of all places, Like I figured they

1706
01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>would go to some third world country where if everybody

1707
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>lost their minds and killed each other, it wouldn't make

1708
01:30:23.560 --> 01:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the world stage. France is the first world country that's

1709
01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>bold to try it out there. But I mean, maybe

1710
01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:33.039
<v Speaker 1>they just had it in with the food supply there,

1711
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:35.239
<v Speaker 1>so they knew that it would get to the affected target.

1712
01:30:35.600 --> 01:30:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1713
01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:40.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, maybe I'm speculating, But there's a whole book on it,

1714
01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:42.800
<v Speaker 5>which I'm probably not going to read, but there is

1715
01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:44.000
<v Speaker 5>information out there.

1716
01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:45.159
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

1717
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:47.199
<v Speaker 5>Does any listeners want to dive in further?

1718
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>All a part of m K Naomi?

1719
01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, I'm we're going to profit to an episode

1720
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>on that one now too.

1721
01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Wow, it wasn't.

1722
01:30:59.479 --> 01:31:02.319
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing with this study was that they wanted

1723
01:31:02.359 --> 01:31:04.319
<v Speaker 1>to effect at least eighty percent of the people to

1724
01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:05.039
<v Speaker 1>get them sick.

1725
01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Yo. Oh, you're talking about for the fog.

1726
01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>You're coming up for the for the ergot slash LSD

1727
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:13.439
<v Speaker 1>slash mushroom bread.

1728
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:17.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about the San Francisco fog from ye back

1729
01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:20.800
<v Speaker 4>in nineteen whatever. Fifty pow.

1730
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>That is wild good god.

1731
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, hold on, what did Zombie share as far as

1732
01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the Oh? Hold on, she just shared another Instagram video

1733
01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:35.439
<v Speaker 1>that I actually wanted to play for everybody here.

1734
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh this is the fog? All right? Hold on, hold on,

1735
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:43.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean Morning Mercy might have to pull it up

1736
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>this way. I'm gonna figure.

1737
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Out how to do this whole uh, this whole sharing

1738
01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:53.319
<v Speaker 1>screen and getting things lined out. I'm gonna get that better, y'all.

1739
01:31:53.319 --> 01:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I promise, stop it all right, hold on, let me

1740
01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:05.399
<v Speaker 1>share this. Here we go bam bam, Thank you, ma'am.

1741
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Here we go. Does this look normal to you?

1742
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:16.039
<v Speaker 1>The fog in Florida was tested and contained a bacterian

1743
01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>pathogen known as Ceratia mascarie.

1744
01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's the one. What are your thoughts?

1745
01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:22.159
<v Speaker 3>Wow?

1746
01:32:22.279 --> 01:32:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so yes, Indeed, the fog was tested in Naples, Florida,

1747
01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:29.159
<v Speaker 1>and was found to contain this pathogenic bacteria slash parasite.

1748
01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:32.319
<v Speaker 1>This particular strain has been used in the military experiments

1749
01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>as a form of biological warfare. Look it up. It

1750
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>can also cause pneumonia. Okay, here we are. I have

1751
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>now seen this fog three times where I live. I

1752
01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>chose not to live in fear and de worm regularly,

1753
01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:48.439
<v Speaker 1>as parasites can migrate anywhere in the body. Also planned

1754
01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:53.239
<v Speaker 1>to buy a nebulizer in flesh my lungs. All right, excellent, Wow,

1755
01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's pretty crazy. Thick fog too. That doesn't

1756
01:32:56.920 --> 01:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>look like just a regular Yeah. I mean I understand

1757
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:04.039
<v Speaker 1>what fog technically looks regular or normal. I get there's

1758
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:07.359
<v Speaker 1>variance to that. But if that fog was tested and

1759
01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>contained that bacterium that they were using in Operation Ocean Spray,

1760
01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:15.359
<v Speaker 1>that's that's scary.

1761
01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:24.720
<v Speaker 4>And from other videos. It uh the one that usually

1762
01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:27.479
<v Speaker 4>pops up from me when it comes and talks about

1763
01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:31.319
<v Speaker 4>the fog. It looks like little snowflakes. It's not even

1764
01:33:31.359 --> 01:33:34.560
<v Speaker 4>like a fog. They're like little particles everywhere, you know.

1765
01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:37.279
<v Speaker 4>But it's just like, I guess, it's just superdense and

1766
01:33:37.279 --> 01:33:40.760
<v Speaker 4>there's so much of it, so I don't know, it's

1767
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:42.439
<v Speaker 4>it's a little it's a little strange.

1768
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean to say that the government quote unquote, the

1769
01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>let's just call it they, right, the all encompassing they

1770
01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:52.479
<v Speaker 1>would be doing this to make the population sick.

1771
01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't see what the purpose of that would be.

1772
01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>If you're trying to kill them off, all right, if

1773
01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to test to see how uh sickness spreads.

1774
01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we already have a pretty decent understanding

1775
01:34:04.119 --> 01:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>of virology and pathology and all these things. But the

1776
01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>fact that they're still doing it and confirm that fog

1777
01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:14.720
<v Speaker 1>had that particulate within it, that's that's that's next level

1778
01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>scary for so many reasons.

1779
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:20.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that also didn't look like normal fog.

1780
01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Like if I was to walk outside and see that

1781
01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:25.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of dense fault well in my area, that wouldn't

1782
01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>be that crazy. Louisiana has super dense fog from time

1783
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:29.760
<v Speaker 1>to time, and that's you know, that's just kind of

1784
01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a part of it. But we have that much groundwater

1785
01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>in every places where it's normal. I don't know how

1786
01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the fog in Naples, Florida technically or typically looks. I

1787
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know how the fog in San Francisco typically looks.

1788
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>And like you said, in your area of New Jersey,

1789
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea if thick fog like that happens

1790
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:50.039
<v Speaker 1>semi regularly or if it's never like that. But yeah,

1791
01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:58.039
<v Speaker 1>that would be a red flag one hundred percent. Okay, Well,

1792
01:34:59.359 --> 01:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>as we're going and talking about all these other things,

1793
01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>do y'all have anything else y'all would like to bring

1794
01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>up and share with the class at this time?

1795
01:35:05.319 --> 01:35:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Good God, we have bounced around so many topics thus far.

1796
01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:13.640
<v Speaker 5>I got something. It's too bad that Anthony to Be

1797
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.279
<v Speaker 5>isn't here anymore. But what do you think about the

1798
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:20.399
<v Speaker 5>idea that Jesus could be described as a cult leader.

1799
01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:25.159
<v Speaker 2>I've heard people call him that before.

1800
01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>The only reason why I would say that he wasn't

1801
01:35:29.039 --> 01:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>would be that he wasn't trying to fuck everybody's wives,

1802
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:34.159
<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't trying to take people's money, which seems

1803
01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:37.119
<v Speaker 1>to be a whole thing with cult leaders.

1804
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:40.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, So I guess it comes down to the

1805
01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:43.600
<v Speaker 5>definition of what is a cult, and people do argue

1806
01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:46.920
<v Speaker 5>about that a lot. And within the Catholic Church there's

1807
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:49.199
<v Speaker 5>a lot of different cults of different saints, and they

1808
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.079
<v Speaker 5>don't mean it in a bad way. It's just that

1809
01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:53.079
<v Speaker 5>they came up with that word before it had a

1810
01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:56.399
<v Speaker 5>bad connotation. And I think even in pagan religions you

1811
01:35:56.399 --> 01:35:59.359
<v Speaker 5>would have a cult of different gods and it was

1812
01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:03.439
<v Speaker 5>just considered to be synonymous with religion. But I guess

1813
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:06.560
<v Speaker 5>it relates to the cult of your normal show culture conspiracy.

1814
01:36:07.319 --> 01:36:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1815
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.399
<v Speaker 5>The way I describe it though, is that the way

1816
01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:14.399
<v Speaker 5>you manage a large religion is way different from the

1817
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:17.960
<v Speaker 5>way you'd bandage a really small vanguard group of people,

1818
01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:21.880
<v Speaker 5>and the small vanguard group of people is more like

1819
01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:26.840
<v Speaker 5>a cult. And that's kind of the impression that comes

1820
01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:29.760
<v Speaker 5>through in the New Testament, and I realized, you know,

1821
01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:33.119
<v Speaker 5>there's a negative connotation to it. But I would say

1822
01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:36.840
<v Speaker 5>that if Jesus were around today, he would probably be

1823
01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:41.439
<v Speaker 5>considered a cult leader for a couple of reasons. One is,

1824
01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:44.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, the small, kind of narrow group of people

1825
01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:48.239
<v Speaker 5>with very unpopular beliefs who are held together by those beliefs.

1826
01:36:48.279 --> 01:36:50.680
<v Speaker 5>And I think the other main thing that stands out

1827
01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:55.800
<v Speaker 5>is separating people from their families, because there's a couple

1828
01:36:55.840 --> 01:37:00.640
<v Speaker 5>instances of that, and they don't look great to modern

1829
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:04.239
<v Speaker 5>listener or readers of the New Testament. For example, where

1830
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:07.800
<v Speaker 5>some people, some of his new disciples, say, we want

1831
01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:11.840
<v Speaker 5>to follow you, but we have a funeral to attend

1832
01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:15.560
<v Speaker 5>to first, and Jesus says, let the dead bury their own.

1833
01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:18.600
<v Speaker 5>You have to follow me right away, or and he

1834
01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:22.680
<v Speaker 5>who looks back from the plow is not worthy to something.

1835
01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:24.399
<v Speaker 5>I'm probably butchering it a little.

1836
01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Bit, but that wasn't what he was telling every single

1837
01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:28.119
<v Speaker 2>follower of his.

1838
01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>That's what he was telling to his disciples who were

1839
01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:34.479
<v Speaker 1>specifically chosen for certain purposes. So I mean, but I

1840
01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:37.159
<v Speaker 1>see also what you're saying. There will be those that

1841
01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>will throw shade on the Bible and on Jesus that

1842
01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:45.359
<v Speaker 1>will say that that's clearly cult leader type activities. I

1843
01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>see the comparisons for sure.

1844
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:49.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's definitely because the way you'd lead a mass

1845
01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:52.439
<v Speaker 5>movement is different from the way you would lead a

1846
01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:56.800
<v Speaker 5>very small number of very committed vanguard or remnant, whatever

1847
01:37:56.840 --> 01:38:00.880
<v Speaker 5>you want to call him, disciples, And you know, Mormonism,

1848
01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:03.039
<v Speaker 5>I would say, started the same way. It started out

1849
01:38:03.119 --> 01:38:08.600
<v Speaker 5>very anti institutionalist and you know, focused on making everybody

1850
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:11.560
<v Speaker 5>very committed. And now it's more along the lines of

1851
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:14.920
<v Speaker 5>a mass movement going everywhere, not just North America anymore.

1852
01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:16.199
<v Speaker 5>They want to be everywhere.

1853
01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they changed their racist ideology a couple of decades ago,

1854
01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:21.359
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken.

1855
01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:22.199
<v Speaker 5>In the seventies.

1856
01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, up until then, they didn't think black people could

1857
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>go to heaven, and then out of nowhere, it's like, well, yeah,

1858
01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:29.720
<v Speaker 1>they can go too, and it's like, yeah, yeah, y'all

1859
01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:31.039
<v Speaker 1>had to change with the times, didn't you.

1860
01:38:31.640 --> 01:38:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1861
01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.960
<v Speaker 5>My perception was it was more against the Native Americans

1862
01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:38.640
<v Speaker 5>because they were the neat fights and the Malanites or something.

1863
01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Which is crazy because apparently Jesus came to talk to

1864
01:38:42.039 --> 01:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the Natives, which is where the Golden Tablets came from allegedly,

1865
01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:50.439
<v Speaker 1>but the Native Americans also were seen as demonic spawn

1866
01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>by Brigham Young for sure. I don't know if Joseph

1867
01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Smith had that kind of endemic racism within him.

1868
01:38:57.880 --> 01:38:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I know Brigham did good.

1869
01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>God if y'all that show American Primeval, No, it's worth

1870
01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>a watch. It's only it's not even like a mini

1871
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>sees well. I guess you could call it a mini series.

1872
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:11.079
<v Speaker 1>There's only one series out, it's on Netflix right now,

1873
01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:16.119
<v Speaker 1>and it is very historically accurate, so much so that

1874
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the Mormon Church had to come out and try to

1875
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>sue Netflix over it, even though they couldn't because they

1876
01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:25.439
<v Speaker 1>weren't making accusations. They were giving a historical account of

1877
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the militia, the Mormon militia that was out there dressing

1878
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:33.720
<v Speaker 1>as natives and like praying upon the settlers that were

1879
01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>moving out west as a way to they were basically

1880
01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to have a Mormon nation in what we would

1881
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>now call the state of Utah. It was it was

1882
01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:48.039
<v Speaker 1>a genocide by any other stretch of the imagination. And uh, yeah,

1883
01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:51.119
<v Speaker 1>that you're you're one hundred percent right on that. Uh

1884
01:39:51.159 --> 01:39:53.079
<v Speaker 1>to the point that you made earlier. I wouldn't call

1885
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Jesus a cult leader for a number of reasons. He

1886
01:39:56.520 --> 01:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't trying to tell every single person to lead their families,

1887
01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>sell their possessions and follow him. He said that to

1888
01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>a very select specific few people. Also, he wasn't coming

1889
01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:12.079
<v Speaker 1>with some sort of new age philosophy or I only

1890
01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>use the term new age, excuse me, but new philosophy.

1891
01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:17.439
<v Speaker 2>If anything. He was trying to show.

1892
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<v Speaker 1>Them what the old ways and the old laws were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be, and that's why they hated him. He

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to call out the Pharisees and the Sadducees

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01:40:25.079 --> 01:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>who were basically missing the forest for the trees, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of that, their hearts have been poisoned

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01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:35.439
<v Speaker 1>and corrupted by the greed of man. And so I

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01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I see it for what it was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But also, yes, if you look at anything

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01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:43.039
<v Speaker 1>hard enough with squinted eyes, you'll make anything out of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand why people would look at him to

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<v Speaker 1>be some sort of a cult leader. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>even the Jews don't see him as a cult leader.

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01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:52.399
<v Speaker 1>They see him as a good dude, a traveling rabbi

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01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that was, you know, killed for things, and he was

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01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>going against the old ways. Ah, yes, go ahead, Royce.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured that would make you probably up on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry. I mean, look, if I know something, I'll speak

1909
01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:10.319
<v Speaker 3>of otherwise I keep my mouth shut. So the whole

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus thing, Jews don't looking at it like he's like

1911
01:41:14.680 --> 01:41:18.720
<v Speaker 3>a good dude, because in our perspective, he took a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of Jews and he's leading them away from from

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01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:28.319
<v Speaker 3>the Torah. Right, So I understand conceptually since I came

1914
01:41:28.319 --> 01:41:34.520
<v Speaker 3>from Christian where that stems from. However, like whenever you're

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<v Speaker 3>having someone that says, all right, well, you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to follow the Sabbath, but when we have God that

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<v Speaker 3>says do the things this way, that's a contradiction that

1918
01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:50.800
<v Speaker 3>most Jews, specifically Orthodox, can't jibe with. Right, So when

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01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:53.399
<v Speaker 3>it comes to anything with the laws of the Sabbath

1920
01:41:54.319 --> 01:42:00.840
<v Speaker 3>or laws of Castros, same thing to where like whenever

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01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:05.279
<v Speaker 3>we have Moses and God that says, all right, well,

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01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:09.520
<v Speaker 3>you need to have a very specific diet and then

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01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:12.359
<v Speaker 3>all of the traditions that go with it, and then

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01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>you have someone that says, well, you really don't need

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01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:16.600
<v Speaker 3>to do that anymore. It's kind of an old thing

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01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:18.880
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't jive.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jesus himself told the Jews to keep being Jewish,

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01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:26.920
<v Speaker 2>like he didn't want to take away the law of Moses.

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01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:29.840
<v Speaker 2>He was coming for the world, not just the Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear, So, then why do Christians try to convert Jews?

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01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I personally on behalf of Christians am not trying to

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01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:42.800
<v Speaker 1>convert Jews.

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01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:47.640
<v Speaker 3>So I guess I mean, in my experience, there have

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01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:53.920
<v Speaker 3>been plenty of Christians who tried specifically to aim for

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01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Jews to become Christians. That's why there there was a

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01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:59.960
<v Speaker 3>whole Massianic and or Jews for Jesus move.

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<v Speaker 2>But correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Even within the Messianic Jewish faith, they still keep the Sabbath,

1939
01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:07.039
<v Speaker 1>they still adhere to the laws.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 10>No, Basically, there is not really much of a difference

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01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:17.520
<v Speaker 10>between a theologically between someone who is Messianic and someone

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01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:18.560
<v Speaker 10>who is Protestant.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, because I don't think I've ever.

1945
01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:29.479
<v Speaker 11>Seen a Messianic who actually doesn't drive on Chabas or

1946
01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:34.039
<v Speaker 11>who doesn't cook or use electronics, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of them will like they'll that would probably go

1948
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:42.239
<v Speaker 3>fall under the spirit of the law of Okay, well,

1949
01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>we're just not going to go to work as opposed

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01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:53.279
<v Speaker 3>to someone who actually follows the biblical thirty nine categories

1951
01:43:53.279 --> 01:43:55.039
<v Speaker 3>of work that we're not supposed to do on.

1952
01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:00.079
<v Speaker 1>Shabis wouldn't the Seventh Day Adventis be a Christian denomination

1953
01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>that does that though.

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<v Speaker 5>I just can bring that up. They even keep kosher,

1955
01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:05.800
<v Speaker 5>don't they to a degree?

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01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>It's more like vegan.

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01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:09.760
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, I think it was just no pork.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as somedings Venice, I don't know. I understand

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<v Speaker 3>that they observe quote unquote the Sabbath on Saturday instead

1961
01:44:24.319 --> 01:44:27.399
<v Speaker 3>of Sunday, but A I don't know if they start

1962
01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>from before the sundown on Friday on Friday to after

1963
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:34.439
<v Speaker 3>sundown on Saturday. And as I don't know if they

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01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:39.319
<v Speaker 3>abstain from using electronics, from not using their phone, from

1965
01:44:39.479 --> 01:44:46.920
<v Speaker 3>not driving, to cooking to sharing like that. There's so

1966
01:44:47.039 --> 01:44:52.000
<v Speaker 3>there are thirty nine different categories of stuff of malacos

1967
01:44:52.319 --> 01:44:55.920
<v Speaker 3>that we are not supposed to do on the Sabbath,

1968
01:44:56.039 --> 01:45:01.119
<v Speaker 3>and like Worthodox users are very very particular about it.

1969
01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:05.439
<v Speaker 3>That's why, you know, unless it's a dire circumstance, and

1970
01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:09.399
<v Speaker 3>like their doctors whatever, most Jewsual or most Ortholox Jews

1971
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:12.800
<v Speaker 3>will turn off their phones completely, you know, for that

1972
01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:15.640
<v Speaker 3>twenty five plus hour period of time.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, well, I just looked at up the seventh day

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01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:21.600
<v Speaker 5>of Venice do consider Friday evening to be part of

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01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:24.439
<v Speaker 5>the Sabbath after sundown. I have no idea what they

1976
01:45:24.439 --> 01:45:28.079
<v Speaker 5>believe about electronics. I can google it.

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01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, I'm very like Jacob brought that up because that

1979
01:45:32.399 --> 01:45:34.720
<v Speaker 5>was on my mind too. They seem to be closest

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01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:39.039
<v Speaker 5>to taking the Sabbath as seriously as the Jewish rule.

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01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Sure, and by the way, I'm not saying that they

1982
01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:46.880
<v Speaker 3>don't take it seriously. And even from a Jewish perspective,

1983
01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:49.439
<v Speaker 3>someone who is not Jewish is not supposed to observe

1984
01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:53.079
<v Speaker 3>the Sabbath like we do. That's something that's something that's

1985
01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:59.399
<v Speaker 3>specific to the Jewish people, right, Like, even someone who

1986
01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:03.439
<v Speaker 3>is trying to actively convert to Judaism, they're told up

1987
01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:08.479
<v Speaker 3>until they become Jewish that they're not supposed to keep

1988
01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:10.359
<v Speaker 3>the Sabbath all the way like right. So, I actually

1989
01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:14.880
<v Speaker 3>had an ex wife that converted, and she was told

1990
01:46:14.920 --> 01:46:17.359
<v Speaker 3>that she needs to flip a light switch or do

1991
01:46:17.560 --> 01:46:20.159
<v Speaker 3>something because someone who's not Jewish is not supposed to

1992
01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:24.159
<v Speaker 3>follow it like to the tea until she makes that

1993
01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:29.520
<v Speaker 3>or until they whomever make that, dunk into the the

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01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:33.880
<v Speaker 3>mikvah and actually become a Jewish themselves.

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01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:35.079
<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>But even still, Jesus himself never said to not keep

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01:46:39.119 --> 01:46:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the Sabbath. And if I'm not mistaken, at the final

1998
01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the Last Supper, it was actually at a passover meals.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean he was a Jew. He observed the

2000
01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Jewish traditions and holidays, and he told people that are

2001
01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Jewish to please continue living per the Jewish tradition because

2002
01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that is the law that God set down for them

2003
01:46:56.920 --> 01:46:59.199
<v Speaker 1>once upon a time. He was only saying that he

2004
01:46:59.239 --> 01:47:00.800
<v Speaker 1>was here to fulfill the law.

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01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Which he didn't do.

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01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:06.279
<v Speaker 2>In what way?

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01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:09.760
<v Speaker 3>He's not of the line of David.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and you have had that talk before and we

2009
01:47:12.359 --> 01:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>have no, no, for real, per the Jewish law, if

2010
01:47:17.039 --> 01:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>he was to be born of a dude that would

2011
01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:22.640
<v Speaker 2>have been from David's line, which would have made him

2012
01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:23.680
<v Speaker 2>of the line of David.

2013
01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:27.079
<v Speaker 1>How could he be the son of God if he

2014
01:47:27.439 --> 01:47:32.399
<v Speaker 1>came from an earthly father? Correct, So he kind of

2015
01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>had to take that from the only human source that

2016
01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:37.199
<v Speaker 1>would have mattered, which would have been his.

2017
01:47:37.199 --> 01:47:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Mother, which doesn't matter according to Judaism.

2018
01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:45.279
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying that the Messiah is gonna be.

2019
01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:50.159
<v Speaker 3>So the so the Messiah by necessity needs to have

2020
01:47:50.199 --> 01:47:53.159
<v Speaker 3>a Jewish mother and a father who is from the

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01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:53.840
<v Speaker 3>line of David.

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01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>But if he's of God, then how can he be

2023
01:47:57.520 --> 01:47:58.119
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

2024
01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:01.640
<v Speaker 3>That makes no sense because there's no such there's no

2025
01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:05.119
<v Speaker 3>concept of virgin birth in Judaism.

2026
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I believe that very died a virgin, which I

2027
01:48:08.279 --> 01:48:10.399
<v Speaker 1>piss off a lot of Catholics whenever I bring that up.

2028
01:48:10.479 --> 01:48:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Jesus had four brothers and like at least two sisters

2029
01:48:13.479 --> 01:48:15.760
<v Speaker 1>that we know of, But I get into it with

2030
01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Catholics a lot, because no.

2031
01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Mary died of virgin.

2032
01:48:17.880 --> 01:48:21.399
<v Speaker 1>It's like, there's multiple accounts in two different books of

2033
01:48:21.439 --> 01:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the New Testament that say that that's not true.

2034
01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:27.800
<v Speaker 2>But all right, you know whatever.

2035
01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:32.159
<v Speaker 5>They could have been cousins. I don't know the word

2036
01:48:32.159 --> 01:48:32.720
<v Speaker 5>that was used.

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01:48:32.760 --> 01:48:36.560
<v Speaker 1>The only argument I've heard is to say that the

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01:48:36.640 --> 01:48:40.119
<v Speaker 1>word for brother, like actual blood brother, and the word

2039
01:48:40.159 --> 01:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>for like super close friend that you see as a

2040
01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:44.199
<v Speaker 1>brother is like the same word.

2041
01:48:44.239 --> 01:48:45.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's what the intention was.

2042
01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's like when they talk about that in the

2043
01:48:48.640 --> 01:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>New Testament, they're talking about isn't this the son of

2044
01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Joseph and Mary, the brother of Joseph or Joseph, which

2045
01:48:56.359 --> 01:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>is like a short and abbreviated name for like Joseph

2046
01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>junior kind of thing. And they like mentioned his four

2047
01:49:01.279 --> 01:49:04.159
<v Speaker 1>brothers and sisters, which I mean, because they're women, they

2048
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:07.680
<v Speaker 1>weren't worth actually naming. Apparently I wasn't alive during that time,

2049
01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:11.720
<v Speaker 1>but whatever, but like it's it doesn't make sense to that.

2050
01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:13.720
<v Speaker 1>And then at the at the final hour for him,

2051
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:15.800
<v Speaker 1>he basically looked to his brothers he said to take

2052
01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>care of his mother, and they're like they met his

2053
01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:21.000
<v Speaker 1>close friends, and it's like, m that would be weird.

2054
01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Why would he.

2055
01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:24.840
<v Speaker 5>Told he told the apostle John to take care of

2056
01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:29.319
<v Speaker 5>his mother, and John I don't think was related to

2057
01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:30.640
<v Speaker 5>Jesus the apostle.

2058
01:49:31.920 --> 01:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me double check on that, because I'm

2059
01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to remember his brother's names.

2060
01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Jesus is brothers.

2061
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:42.720
<v Speaker 5>Okay, while you're doing that. Yeah, I think it's certainly.

2062
01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:46.840
<v Speaker 5>In Catholic tradition, it is taught that Jesus is well,

2063
01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:51.439
<v Speaker 5>Mary and Joseph were both descended from David if you

2064
01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:53.640
<v Speaker 5>go back far enough, and that David is of the

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01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:57.159
<v Speaker 5>tribe of Judah. Now me speaking as a bit of

2066
01:49:57.159 --> 01:50:00.439
<v Speaker 5>a heretic here I'm not one hundred percent any of

2067
01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:04.039
<v Speaker 5>that's true, because these people all lived way north of

2068
01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:08.000
<v Speaker 5>the land of Judah. But there would have been an incentive,

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01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:12.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, because the twelve tribes of Israel, they were

2070
01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:14.880
<v Speaker 5>in different places when you go back to about seven

2071
01:50:14.920 --> 01:50:20.039
<v Speaker 5>hundred BC, but being disunited they were conquered by the Assyrians,

2072
01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:23.039
<v Speaker 5>and after that they would have had a motivation to

2073
01:50:23.119 --> 01:50:28.039
<v Speaker 5>come together and try to form form a background story

2074
01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.199
<v Speaker 5>that united all of them. And one of the ways

2075
01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:32.439
<v Speaker 5>to do that is to say David is from Judah.

2076
01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:35.279
<v Speaker 5>I'm nine hundred percent sure I believe that. I wonder

2077
01:50:35.319 --> 01:50:37.760
<v Speaker 5>what you and Royce think of that.

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01:50:38.399 --> 01:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that during the time of the turn of

2079
01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the millennia, I feel like most of the Jews were

2080
01:50:43.520 --> 01:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>not living in what was once their tribal lands, like

2081
01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:48.760
<v Speaker 1>this tribe had this section, this tribe of this section.

2082
01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:51.199
<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of went by the wayside when

2083
01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the Assyrians took them over, and by the time the

2084
01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Romans were conquering over them, I don't feel like that

2085
01:50:57.119 --> 01:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>was even at play here. I mean I could be wrong,

2086
01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Royce chime in here.

2087
01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:04.159
<v Speaker 3>No, I believe it, so for sure they weren't in

2088
01:51:04.199 --> 01:51:10.239
<v Speaker 3>there are tribal sections. I guess you would say so.

2089
01:51:10.279 --> 01:51:11.920
<v Speaker 3>For sure, I think they were. They were, they were

2090
01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:14.439
<v Speaker 3>scattered all over.

2091
01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, says Jesus brother's names were James, Joseph,

2092
01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:21.159
<v Speaker 1>which was like Joseph Jr.

2093
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Simon, and Jude.

2094
01:51:22.880 --> 01:51:27.840
<v Speaker 1>And accordingly he had at least multiple sisters, but they're

2095
01:51:27.880 --> 01:51:29.199
<v Speaker 1>not named, so we don't know if that was two

2096
01:51:29.319 --> 01:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>or if that was five. So Joseph and Mary like

2097
01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:35.119
<v Speaker 1>according to the New Testament. But and that was his

2098
01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:38.439
<v Speaker 1>childhood from his hometown of Nazareth, like these were the

2099
01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>kids he was brought up with and things like that.

2100
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<v Speaker 3>So, but we were talking about the first we were

2101
01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:46.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about the very first one. Were talking about.

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<v Speaker 12>Jesus himself, right, because so he would he would have

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<v Speaker 12>he would have needed to be Joseph would have needed

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<v Speaker 12>to be from the try of David.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't believe that was the case as far

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<v Speaker 3>as the theology of that. Plus I don't remember which

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<v Speaker 3>the which lineage is, whether it's Matthew or Luke, right, genealogies, right, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>So in one of them actually it lists someone who

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<v Speaker 3>God says this person will will never be king. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't remember exactly which person it is,

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<v Speaker 3>but in one of the lineages it did list someone

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<v Speaker 3>that God did say previously that they were not ever

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<v Speaker 3>going to be king, so that would also be another

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<v Speaker 3>way to negate it. But the main part is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no conception of virgin birth because of I know

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<v Speaker 3>it in Isaiah whenever they're talking about like the a

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<v Speaker 3>virgin will give birth, how it is translated in a

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01:53:03.039 --> 01:53:08.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of Christian Bibles. The word for young woman in

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<v Speaker 3>that case is alma, not btula. Bitula is the actual

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<v Speaker 3>word for virgin. Alma is not. And the one way

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01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:24.840
<v Speaker 3>we know that Alma does not mean virgin is that

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01:53:26.479 --> 01:53:30.000
<v Speaker 3>when Dina got raped, she was called an alma. So

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01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:33.079
<v Speaker 3>obviously of somebody who has been raped, they have known

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01:53:33.199 --> 01:53:36.920
<v Speaker 3>carnal knowledge, they that's no longer they are no longer

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<v Speaker 3>a virgin. So since one word was used before and

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01:53:41.239 --> 01:53:45.560
<v Speaker 3>they use that same word later, that person that the

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01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:51.479
<v Speaker 3>woman that the prophecy was spoken about was specific to

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<v Speaker 3>the I think was king, I forget.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also it makes sense to me that Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing as how she was not married to Joseph when

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<v Speaker 1>she per our beliefs immaculately, was you know, conceived Jesus,

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01:54:10.520 --> 01:54:13.479
<v Speaker 1>that she wouldn't have been called a betula at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>When she was engaged to Joseph, she became pregnant with Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore she would have been listed as an alma. This

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01:54:20.159 --> 01:54:23.760
<v Speaker 1>makes perfect sense to me, per the Uh, per the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 3>But then using that same logic, we're saying that she

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<v Speaker 3>had sex before she got married.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying she was pregnant before she was married, not

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<v Speaker 2>that she had sex.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the New Testament account says that the angel Gabriel

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<v Speaker 5>came to Mary and said, you will conceive a son,

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01:54:42.880 --> 01:54:45.359
<v Speaker 5>and she said, let it be done to me according

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<v Speaker 5>to thy will. So it's pretty explicit that Jesus was

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01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:54.279
<v Speaker 5>conceived miraculously as a virgin. And then after that the

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01:54:54.319 --> 01:54:58.760
<v Speaker 5>New Testament is silent accepted, says he has brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 5>and the Catholic Church said is that, no, those are

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<v Speaker 5>just cousins. And I don't know. I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>But they also make mention of John the Baptist being

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<v Speaker 1>his actual cousin, so like they use the words the

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01:55:08.359 --> 01:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>right way, but I forgot that too.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't it's not even sure he really was.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, Mary's sister was pregnant with John the Baptist

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01:55:16.920 --> 01:55:18.760
<v Speaker 1>at the time they were pregnant, and that's what it says,

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01:55:19.520 --> 01:55:22.720
<v Speaker 1>right right, right, But like it doesn't negate and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to throw shade at the Catholics by any

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01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:28.359
<v Speaker 1>means on this, but it doesn't take away from Mary's

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01:55:29.119 --> 01:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>importance as the arc of the New Covenant, her actual

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01:55:32.680 --> 01:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>womb being that. It doesn't take away to say that

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<v Speaker 1>once she gave birth to Jesus that her and her

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01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:42.079
<v Speaker 1>then husband had more children, like that they were married,

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01:55:42.199 --> 01:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't they have more children That that doesn't I

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01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:47.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know why that's such like a sticking point to

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<v Speaker 1>that faith.

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<v Speaker 5>Personally, I see your point, and to be honest, it's

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01:55:52.359 --> 01:55:54.880
<v Speaker 5>not the biggest deal to me either, kind of like

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01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:57.079
<v Speaker 5>how the Trinity is supposed to be a big deal,

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<v Speaker 5>and to me it's not really that big of a deal.

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01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:02.800
<v Speaker 5>I think I believe in it, but.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people try to describe it in so many

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01:56:05.279 --> 01:56:06.159
<v Speaker 2>nuanced ways.

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01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:10.159
<v Speaker 1>It's like, look, there's God, he created the stuff. Jesus

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01:56:10.199 --> 01:56:12.640
<v Speaker 1>came down to save everybody. Because we got so wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up in our own shit that even following the laws,

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01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:17.920
<v Speaker 1>we were still full of sin like okay, and fine,

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01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:19.439
<v Speaker 1>you want to say that there was a holy spirit

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01:56:19.479 --> 01:56:21.279
<v Speaker 1>that was like the golden thread connecting them, or you

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01:56:21.279 --> 01:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>want to say some other fine, fine, Uh it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>negate from the fucking point here.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm with you, man, Yeah, on the Trinity?

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<v Speaker 5>So is Yahweh the Father? And if he is, then

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<v Speaker 5>what's Elohim? Is he also the father? Or is he

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01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:40.079
<v Speaker 5>the Holy Spirit? And why are there these multiple names?

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<v Speaker 5>What I've read is Judah referred to him as Yahweh

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<v Speaker 5>and the other like I don't know, nine tribes up

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01:56:46.399 --> 01:56:48.960
<v Speaker 5>north referred to God is Alohim. There was an a

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01:56:49.039 --> 01:56:53.279
<v Speaker 5>Lohist author and a Yahwist author, and eventually I think

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<v Speaker 5>these names started getting omitted from the Old Testament, where

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<v Speaker 5>they just wouldn't write it and they would leave a

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01:56:58.199 --> 01:57:01.279
<v Speaker 5>blank space. To me, seems like maybe they were letting

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<v Speaker 5>the reader filled the in the blank with whatever they wanted,

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01:57:04.479 --> 01:57:07.439
<v Speaker 5>Yahweh or below name per preference.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know that roo for the for I am correct,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the name that he told us.

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<v Speaker 3>I am, so I am is a specific name of

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<v Speaker 3>God along with the the Tetra grammaton, the four letter

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01:57:26.520 --> 01:57:32.399
<v Speaker 3>name of God, which I will not pronounce, would you say,

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<v Speaker 3>the the witnesses? Right? We believe that the different names

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01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:46.600
<v Speaker 3>of God are different aspects of him. Doesn't really have

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01:57:46.680 --> 01:57:50.119
<v Speaker 3>anything to do with We're not naming different deities, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So like el Keem for example, is one of the

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01:57:53.439 --> 01:57:58.520
<v Speaker 3>names of God, but it can also mean the angels

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01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:02.000
<v Speaker 3>are also can be called like that. And then like

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01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:06.279
<v Speaker 3>great men can also be called eloquen.

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01:58:06.840 --> 01:58:09.199
<v Speaker 2>When you say great men, do you mean them men

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01:58:09.239 --> 01:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>of renown that were the Nephilim?

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01:58:12.399 --> 01:58:13.159
<v Speaker 3>Something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 3>Something like that? And that's that's a whole fun subjects

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01:58:20.079 --> 01:58:22.000
<v Speaker 3>in and out of itself. But as far as the

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01:58:22.039 --> 01:58:24.479
<v Speaker 3>name we got like, so, each one of those names

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01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:28.039
<v Speaker 3>means a certain things. So when it comes to elokeein

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01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:32.640
<v Speaker 3>for example, right, so that's whenever we deal with laws

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01:58:32.680 --> 01:58:38.239
<v Speaker 3>of nature, that is one of the aspects that we

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01:58:38.720 --> 01:58:41.640
<v Speaker 3>attribute or that's the name that we attribute it to

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01:58:42.199 --> 01:58:49.039
<v Speaker 3>as which is the more of the line of I

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01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:53.720
<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's judgment as opposed to mercy. So

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01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:59.399
<v Speaker 3>each name notes very specific things at different times, and

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01:58:59.640 --> 01:59:01.960
<v Speaker 3>to mind knowledge, there's never been any kind of blank

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01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:05.760
<v Speaker 3>spot as far as fill in your name of God here,

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01:59:06.479 --> 01:59:09.279
<v Speaker 3>I've read the Torah. I've seen it. I've seen it

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01:59:09.279 --> 01:59:13.039
<v Speaker 3>a number of times. There's never a blank space for

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01:59:13.199 --> 01:59:18.520
<v Speaker 3>a name of God. It's very very specific. Yeah, so

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01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:22.920
<v Speaker 3>like I am I am that, I am right that

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01:59:22.920 --> 01:59:26.199
<v Speaker 3>that name that is a name of God. The the

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01:59:26.199 --> 01:59:29.159
<v Speaker 3>the uk bob k that's a name of God. Elo

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01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Kein that is a name of God. So each one

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01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:37.760
<v Speaker 3>was just context, as you say, is important. Right. So

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01:59:37.960 --> 01:59:40.359
<v Speaker 3>when it says in the beginning, God created the heaven

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01:59:40.399 --> 01:59:43.800
<v Speaker 3>and the worlds, like we know that he wanted to

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01:59:43.880 --> 01:59:48.159
<v Speaker 3>originally create the world with judgment, but he realized that

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01:59:48.239 --> 01:59:51.039
<v Speaker 3>the world couldn't stand so therefore he needed to create

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01:59:51.039 --> 01:59:57.439
<v Speaker 3>the world with with mercy. So basically, it just depends

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01:59:57.479 --> 02:00:01.159
<v Speaker 3>on what's going on at that time contextually.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, real quick, you said that you read the Torah.

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02:00:07.560 --> 02:00:10.159
<v Speaker 1>That's the first five books of the Bible, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this, but refreshment memory here the Book of Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that called as far as the Jewish literature

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned, is that a part of the kibbutz.

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02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:28.560
<v Speaker 13>No, so, a kibbutz is basically like a commune. No

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02:00:28.840 --> 02:00:31.920
<v Speaker 13>Tanah is actually the word you're looking for okay, So

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02:00:32.039 --> 02:00:36.520
<v Speaker 13>to Tanah is a wonderful Hebrew acronym of Torah, which

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02:00:36.560 --> 02:00:37.039
<v Speaker 13>is the tour.

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<v Speaker 3>You have the Navene which are prophets, and the and

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02:00:39.600 --> 02:00:44.439
<v Speaker 3>the Katuvium, which are the writings. So like we have

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02:00:44.640 --> 02:00:50.239
<v Speaker 3>our books arranged slightly differently than a normal Christian Bible

2248
02:00:50.359 --> 02:00:53.359
<v Speaker 3>just because it's so we have the tour of the

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02:00:53.359 --> 02:00:57.560
<v Speaker 3>prophets and the writings. So Isaiah would be a book

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<v Speaker 3>of the prophets, gotcha, and probably a major profit as

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02:01:01.760 --> 02:01:03.159
<v Speaker 3>opposed to some of the miner ones.

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02:01:03.920 --> 02:01:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that makes sense for sure.

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02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So as far as the name of God is

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02:01:10.159 --> 02:01:15.039
<v Speaker 1>concerned with eloheme versus yahweh, again, it just depends on

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02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the context and what they're speaking on and about at

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02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:18.439
<v Speaker 1>that time.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, And I mean, and there's plenty of stages that

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02:01:23.680 --> 02:01:28.119
<v Speaker 3>parse out meanings. You know, why why does God use

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02:01:28.640 --> 02:01:33.960
<v Speaker 3>or why do one word here as opposed to another?

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<v Speaker 3>That's this is you know, Gamachi comes into play into

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02:01:38.520 --> 02:01:40.680
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things well, which is kind of like

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02:01:40.720 --> 02:01:43.479
<v Speaker 3>the cream on the top is not really the meat

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02:01:43.479 --> 02:01:45.600
<v Speaker 3>and potatoes. But you know, there are plenty of people

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02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:50.880
<v Speaker 3>that you know, they'll there are plenty of Homiletic interpretations

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02:01:51.640 --> 02:01:54.760
<v Speaker 3>of of why we use Guy's name here in this way,

2266
02:01:54.840 --> 02:01:58.279
<v Speaker 3>why do we use guy's name here in another situation?

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02:02:00.239 --> 02:02:02.439
<v Speaker 3>Various permutations therein.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent. Okay, one hundred percent, hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now real quick here As far as keeping the Sabbath

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<v Speaker 1>holy and Saturday being that day, I've been meaning to

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02:02:16.560 --> 02:02:19.840
<v Speaker 1>ask you about this. Per Hebrew law, Saturday is the.

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<v Speaker 2>End of the week.

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02:02:22.279 --> 02:02:24.760
<v Speaker 3>That would be the seventh day, correct, So.

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02:02:25.520 --> 02:02:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Sunday was the first day of the it was the

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02:02:28.319 --> 02:02:30.479
<v Speaker 1>last day of the week per a lot of calendars

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02:02:30.800 --> 02:02:32.800
<v Speaker 1>up until three twenty one a d.

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02:02:33.520 --> 02:02:35.439
<v Speaker 2>When Sunday became the first day of the week.

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02:02:35.960 --> 02:02:38.159
<v Speaker 1>But the Hebrews have acknowledged Saturday to be the last

2279
02:02:38.199 --> 02:02:39.760
<v Speaker 1>day of the week, or yeah, the last day of

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02:02:39.760 --> 02:02:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the week since the beginning.

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02:02:42.119 --> 02:02:45.600
<v Speaker 3>At least ever since we received the Tora thirty three

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02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:46.279
<v Speaker 3>hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, fascinating.

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02:02:51.159 --> 02:02:53.399
<v Speaker 3>And then like Quord, like you uh talking was speaking

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02:02:53.399 --> 02:02:57.720
<v Speaker 3>about the town one right that there are are questions

2286
02:02:57.800 --> 02:03:00.960
<v Speaker 3>like let's just say you're in a desert island and

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02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:03.840
<v Speaker 3>you don't know what day it is, how what do

2288
02:03:03.880 --> 02:03:05.840
<v Speaker 3>you how do you how do you observe the Sabbath?

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02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:09.039
<v Speaker 2>That's an example that's actually in the Talma. Didn't it?

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02:03:09.800 --> 02:03:12.399
<v Speaker 3>No, for sure? So I mean so like, so the

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02:03:12.399 --> 02:03:15.159
<v Speaker 3>whole thing is like do you do you count seven days?

2292
02:03:15.199 --> 02:03:19.079
<v Speaker 3>Like you know? And these these are questions obviously a

2293
02:03:19.079 --> 02:03:23.479
<v Speaker 3>lot of them are are philosophical, but it's funny. I apparently,

2294
02:03:23.560 --> 02:03:27.159
<v Speaker 3>like because of the International dateline. Hawaii is one of

2295
02:03:27.199 --> 02:03:32.039
<v Speaker 3>those questions to where they don't make their like might

2296
02:03:32.159 --> 02:03:36.920
<v Speaker 3>be an area that is it follows on this day

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02:03:37.039 --> 02:03:39.279
<v Speaker 3>or that day, so it depends on where you are.

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02:03:39.279 --> 02:03:41.520
<v Speaker 3>And then like you go way far north where there's

2299
02:03:42.039 --> 02:03:44.359
<v Speaker 3>actually no sunset, like how do the people up in

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02:03:44.399 --> 02:03:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Alaska observe the Sabbath whenever? Like it doesn't really get dark.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of really crazy, crazy cool but

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02:03:56.079 --> 02:03:58.399
<v Speaker 3>very random things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, I an't think about that.

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02:04:00.560 --> 02:04:02.960
<v Speaker 1>The Muslims do rama dah, and then that a big

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02:04:03.000 --> 02:04:05.399
<v Speaker 1>thing for like only eating after the sun goes.

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02:04:05.239 --> 02:04:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Down direct or like forty days.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, dude, there's no way they live in

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02:04:10.960 --> 02:04:13.800
<v Speaker 1>areas where they have twenty four hours sun that the

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02:04:13.920 --> 02:04:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Islamic faith would fucking crumble there.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I feel bad for the ones in Michigan because

2312
02:04:19.920 --> 02:04:24.199
<v Speaker 5>sometimes Ramadan's in the summertime. But yeah, they observe it.

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02:04:24.720 --> 02:04:27.520
<v Speaker 5>They start eating when the sun goes down. You might

2314
02:04:27.560 --> 02:04:30.119
<v Speaker 5>have heard of this tall building called the Burj Khalifa

2315
02:04:30.239 --> 02:04:34.840
<v Speaker 5>in Dubai. Yeah, and up at the top of the floors,

2316
02:04:34.920 --> 02:04:37.680
<v Speaker 5>the sun actually goes down later than it does when

2317
02:04:37.720 --> 02:04:41.600
<v Speaker 5>you're at the bottom, so it's a three minute difference

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02:04:41.800 --> 02:04:43.560
<v Speaker 5>and they have to take that into account.

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<v Speaker 2>Explain that flat earthers, I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Another thing is that they have to they they start

2321
02:04:53.760 --> 02:04:57.800
<v Speaker 5>their months when there's a new moon, and I predict

2322
02:04:57.880 --> 02:05:00.640
<v Speaker 5>when the new moon's gonna be, but instead Saudi Arabia

2323
02:05:00.680 --> 02:05:02.600
<v Speaker 5>they don't do it that way. They have to observe

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02:05:02.680 --> 02:05:05.560
<v Speaker 5>the new moon. So the start of a new month

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02:05:05.640 --> 02:05:08.000
<v Speaker 5>can be delayed by a day or two, and then

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02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:10.680
<v Speaker 5>it'll throw Ramadan off by like a day or two

2327
02:05:10.720 --> 02:05:13.520
<v Speaker 5>and the Hodje off by a day or two. It

2328
02:05:13.560 --> 02:05:16.279
<v Speaker 5>can be pretty hard on people trying to plan their

2329
02:05:16.279 --> 02:05:21.239
<v Speaker 5>schedules for their true up to Mecca. And yeah, it's

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02:05:21.279 --> 02:05:23.279
<v Speaker 5>in my opinion, it's a bad calendar. It's only three

2331
02:05:23.359 --> 02:05:26.159
<v Speaker 5>hundred and fifty four days a year because the lunar

2332
02:05:26.199 --> 02:05:28.039
<v Speaker 5>cycles just don't line up well with.

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02:05:29.960 --> 02:05:34.119
<v Speaker 3>The year. So here's here the cool kind of calendar

2334
02:05:34.920 --> 02:05:38.079
<v Speaker 3>esque thing. So, first of all, the Jewish calendar is

2335
02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:40.680
<v Speaker 3>very similar to that because I think that's where Muslims

2336
02:05:40.720 --> 02:05:44.520
<v Speaker 3>got it. Forum is probably use people. Yeah, and so

2337
02:05:44.680 --> 02:05:48.680
<v Speaker 3>our jewe our year, we do follow the mood. However,

2338
02:05:48.760 --> 02:05:52.840
<v Speaker 3>we have a set calendar where every couple of years

2339
02:05:52.880 --> 02:05:55.920
<v Speaker 3>we have a leap year. But our leap year we

2340
02:05:56.000 --> 02:05:59.479
<v Speaker 3>add an entire month, we add thirty days. So like

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02:05:59.560 --> 02:06:04.640
<v Speaker 3>every right, so as Tony said, like because the lunar

2342
02:06:04.720 --> 02:06:08.520
<v Speaker 3>calendar has less day, has fewer days than the solar calendar,

2343
02:06:08.760 --> 02:06:11.800
<v Speaker 3>we go backwards, right, which is the reason why Muslim

2344
02:06:11.800 --> 02:06:14.520
<v Speaker 3>holidays that should be in the summer going to the winter,

2345
02:06:15.319 --> 02:06:17.640
<v Speaker 3>because they just keep going backwards and just kind of

2346
02:06:17.880 --> 02:06:21.199
<v Speaker 3>kind of goes in that kind of cycle as opposed

2347
02:06:21.239 --> 02:06:23.359
<v Speaker 3>to Jews. Like the Taurus says you need to have

2348
02:06:23.760 --> 02:06:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Passover needs to be in spring, right, you have Soukus

2349
02:06:27.319 --> 02:06:29.359
<v Speaker 3>that needs to be in fall. So the way that

2350
02:06:29.359 --> 02:06:31.199
<v Speaker 3>they were able to do that is that you had

2351
02:06:31.319 --> 02:06:35.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I don't remember which stages came up with it,

2352
02:06:36.680 --> 02:06:39.640
<v Speaker 3>but basically we have a fixed like I think it's

2353
02:06:39.640 --> 02:06:43.479
<v Speaker 3>a nineteen year calendar. Like whereas like every couple of

2354
02:06:43.560 --> 02:06:46.800
<v Speaker 3>years that there's a lead month. But so that's why

2355
02:06:46.920 --> 02:06:53.039
<v Speaker 3>like Hanuga for example, or any or even Easter or Passover,

2356
02:06:53.479 --> 02:06:56.600
<v Speaker 3>it's there's a range. So there's a thirty day range.

2357
02:06:56.720 --> 02:06:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Like I think, so this year Kanaka or last year,

2358
02:06:59.800 --> 02:07:05.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess kind of go started right right when on

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02:07:06.199 --> 02:07:09.399
<v Speaker 3>December twenty fifth on Christmas. However, so I think this

2360
02:07:09.560 --> 02:07:13.000
<v Speaker 3>is like the latest that it is. So next year

2361
02:07:13.720 --> 02:07:17.159
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a week the other direction. So

2362
02:07:17.159 --> 02:07:21.079
<v Speaker 3>that's why there's a month, because we need to make

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02:07:21.199 --> 02:07:25.640
<v Speaker 3>up those days from the lunar calendar to the solar calendar.

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02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:30.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the Chinese lunar calendar also has these leap months,

2365
02:07:31.319 --> 02:07:34.039
<v Speaker 5>and you'd really need them otherwise the seasons get thrown

2366
02:07:34.079 --> 02:07:36.840
<v Speaker 5>off because twelve lunar months is only three hundred and

2367
02:07:36.880 --> 02:07:40.239
<v Speaker 5>fifty four days. And Islam, according to their tradition, used

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02:07:40.279 --> 02:07:42.640
<v Speaker 5>to have elite month and Muhammed got rid of it.

2369
02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:45.319
<v Speaker 5>It was called Nasi and he got rid of it,

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02:07:45.840 --> 02:07:48.720
<v Speaker 5>assuming you can trust any of the sources from way

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02:07:48.720 --> 02:07:52.600
<v Speaker 5>back in the first millennium obviously, but that's why they

2372
02:07:52.680 --> 02:07:55.560
<v Speaker 5>lose a year every thirty three years, because they're losing

2373
02:07:55.560 --> 02:08:00.680
<v Speaker 5>eleven days per year in their calendar, so there holidays

2374
02:08:00.680 --> 02:08:07.159
<v Speaker 5>can be anytime, spring, summer, winter, You can't predict anyway.

2375
02:08:07.279 --> 02:08:09.479
<v Speaker 5>Back to Jesus for a second, I just wanted to

2376
02:08:09.520 --> 02:08:12.840
<v Speaker 5>throw out I think that from Judaism, I've seen a

2377
02:08:12.920 --> 02:08:17.039
<v Speaker 5>variety of perspectives on Jesus, ranging from relatively positive to

2378
02:08:17.359 --> 02:08:21.600
<v Speaker 5>very negative. And this is just a thing about all religions.

2379
02:08:21.600 --> 02:08:24.680
<v Speaker 5>They do have a spectrum of opinion on a lot

2380
02:08:24.720 --> 02:08:27.800
<v Speaker 5>of different subjects. And as to the question of whether

2381
02:08:27.920 --> 02:08:36.319
<v Speaker 5>Jesus defeated and repudiated Judaism or whether he fulfilled it,

2382
02:08:36.319 --> 02:08:38.680
<v Speaker 5>it depends who you talk to. And I think most

2383
02:08:38.720 --> 02:08:42.800
<v Speaker 5>Christian groups want to be pretty they except for the

2384
02:08:42.840 --> 02:08:46.680
<v Speaker 5>anti Jewish ones, they want to focus on, you know,

2385
02:08:46.760 --> 02:08:51.640
<v Speaker 5>friendship and saying, oh, he fulfilled it now. But it

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02:08:51.680 --> 02:08:54.640
<v Speaker 5>depends on what part of the Old Testament you're looking at,

2387
02:08:54.720 --> 02:08:57.079
<v Speaker 5>I think, because there are some parts of the Old

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02:08:57.119 --> 02:09:00.640
<v Speaker 5>Testament that are very ethnocentric and then others that are

2389
02:09:00.680 --> 02:09:07.680
<v Speaker 5>more universalists. And the Catholic Church really prefers the universalists

2390
02:09:07.720 --> 02:09:11.359
<v Speaker 5>stuff more and to the ethnocentric stuff they say, oh,

2391
02:09:11.439 --> 02:09:14.359
<v Speaker 5>well that actually applies to the Catholic Church now. So

2392
02:09:15.760 --> 02:09:18.399
<v Speaker 5>I don't know everyone. Everyone just loves to pick and choose.

2393
02:09:18.399 --> 02:09:20.479
<v Speaker 5>That's all I'm saying. And I don't think I'm any

2394
02:09:20.560 --> 02:09:23.399
<v Speaker 5>less guilty than anyone else. But I like the more

2395
02:09:23.520 --> 02:09:28.239
<v Speaker 5>universalist interpretation of God being for everybody and not just

2396
02:09:28.520 --> 02:09:32.119
<v Speaker 5>anyone narrow group of people, whether it's ethnicity or even

2397
02:09:32.159 --> 02:09:34.560
<v Speaker 5>a religion. And I think one of the problems with

2398
02:09:34.600 --> 02:09:37.840
<v Speaker 5>all the three major Abrahamic religions is that on the

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02:09:37.880 --> 02:09:40.880
<v Speaker 5>surface level you do have universalism, but then when you

2400
02:09:40.920 --> 02:09:44.840
<v Speaker 5>go deeper, you realize for all three of them that

2401
02:09:46.119 --> 02:09:48.800
<v Speaker 5>promoting their own religion is more important than doing right

2402
02:09:48.840 --> 02:09:52.399
<v Speaker 5>by other people. And Christianity is just as guilty as

2403
02:09:52.479 --> 02:09:54.960
<v Speaker 5>the other two. So that's all. That's all I have

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02:09:55.079 --> 02:09:55.399
<v Speaker 5>to say.

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02:09:55.880 --> 02:09:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I hear it, so the only the only thing so

2406
02:09:57.800 --> 02:10:00.439
<v Speaker 3>by that I don't necessarily disagree. I think the only

2407
02:10:00.439 --> 02:10:02.359
<v Speaker 3>thing that I have to say, as far as any

2408
02:10:02.439 --> 02:10:06.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of rebuttal ish is that Jews don't try to

2409
02:10:06.640 --> 02:10:09.760
<v Speaker 3>convert people. Right, So if you look at Christianity, Christians

2410
02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:12.439
<v Speaker 3>try to convert people. You look at Muslims, Muslims try

2411
02:10:12.479 --> 02:10:15.760
<v Speaker 3>to convert people. Why don't Jews? Because we believe that

2412
02:10:16.159 --> 02:10:19.600
<v Speaker 3>there can be and there are righteous gentiles. Right, So

2413
02:10:19.760 --> 02:10:24.720
<v Speaker 3>God created this entire world. He created jew gentile, you know,

2414
02:10:25.119 --> 02:10:29.199
<v Speaker 3>et cetera. So just because he made me Jewish or worse,

2415
02:10:29.560 --> 02:10:34.079
<v Speaker 3>somebody not Jewish, like that doesn't make anybody less than

2416
02:10:34.159 --> 02:10:39.319
<v Speaker 3>a child of God. Yeah, so I think so we're

2417
02:10:39.319 --> 02:10:43.800
<v Speaker 3>definitely universalists in that way, Like we each have have

2418
02:10:43.840 --> 02:10:47.520
<v Speaker 3>a role. Like let's just say even a traditional family, right,

2419
02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:49.960
<v Speaker 3>so you'll have a man and a woman. So you know,

2420
02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:53.199
<v Speaker 3>in the nuclear family, you know, you have the band

2421
02:10:53.199 --> 02:10:55.720
<v Speaker 3>that goes to work, the woman goes home or you know,

2422
02:10:55.800 --> 02:10:59.840
<v Speaker 3>stays home. Both people are equal, you know, they each

2423
02:11:00.119 --> 02:11:04.800
<v Speaker 3>have separate rules to fulfill. So God did have specific

2424
02:11:05.039 --> 02:11:08.079
<v Speaker 3>a specific role according to the Torah for the Jewish people,

2425
02:11:08.760 --> 02:11:12.720
<v Speaker 3>but for anybody else who's not Jewish, doesn't mean that

2426
02:11:12.760 --> 02:11:14.560
<v Speaker 3>they need to go to Hell.

2427
02:11:14.439 --> 02:11:18.439
<v Speaker 1>And die, right, And I mean as far as Jesus

2428
02:11:18.479 --> 02:11:21.279
<v Speaker 1>is concerned. That's why the Four Gospels were written in

2429
02:11:21.319 --> 02:11:23.479
<v Speaker 1>the way that they were. One of those gospels were

2430
02:11:23.479 --> 02:11:26.680
<v Speaker 1>written specifically for the Jews, one of those gospels were

2431
02:11:26.720 --> 02:11:29.439
<v Speaker 1>written specifically for the Romans, one of those gospels are

2432
02:11:29.439 --> 02:11:32.279
<v Speaker 1>written specifically for the Gentiles, one of the and that's

2433
02:11:32.319 --> 02:11:35.760
<v Speaker 1>why there's certain differences between them. I've heard people say

2434
02:11:35.760 --> 02:11:39.119
<v Speaker 1>that there's a not dichotomies between them. What's the word

2435
02:11:39.119 --> 02:11:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for when something disagrees with itself help me

2436
02:11:44.159 --> 02:11:44.560
<v Speaker 1>out here.

2437
02:11:45.680 --> 02:11:47.479
<v Speaker 5>Inconsistency, thank you, thank you?

2438
02:11:47.600 --> 02:11:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Inconsistence contradiction right, like, for instance, uh, the color of

2439
02:11:53.199 --> 02:11:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the garment that Jesus was wearing when he entered the

2440
02:11:56.000 --> 02:11:59.399
<v Speaker 1>city and one writing it's red, in one writing it's green.

2441
02:11:59.600 --> 02:12:02.319
<v Speaker 1>And it's like like, ah see, these are contradictory points,

2442
02:12:02.319 --> 02:12:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, yeah, who.

2443
02:12:03.479 --> 02:12:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Was that book being written to?

2444
02:12:05.439 --> 02:12:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Because one of these groups sees green as a very

2445
02:12:08.319 --> 02:12:11.119
<v Speaker 1>important color, one of these groups sees purple as a

2446
02:12:11.279 --> 02:12:14.600
<v Speaker 1>very important color. It doesn't change the fact that he

2447
02:12:14.720 --> 02:12:16.640
<v Speaker 1>came and did the thing that he came to do.

2448
02:12:17.560 --> 02:12:20.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like a it's like a dog whistle for certain groups,

2449
02:12:20.560 --> 02:12:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they were written in this way.

2450
02:12:22.880 --> 02:12:26.399
<v Speaker 2>But again, at that point, we're just nitpicking, you know, And.

2451
02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hell, I have a very unpopular opinion as

2452
02:12:29.039 --> 02:12:31.600
<v Speaker 1>far as the Ten Commandments goes, like for instance, the

2453
02:12:31.640 --> 02:12:34.840
<v Speaker 1>fact that it's not for humans to follow. That was

2454
02:12:34.880 --> 02:12:37.039
<v Speaker 1>the whole reason it was written because when the Jews

2455
02:12:37.039 --> 02:12:39.199
<v Speaker 1>were in the desert. Helped me out here, Royce, if

2456
02:12:39.239 --> 02:12:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm off base here, Moses was trying to lead them,

2457
02:12:42.439 --> 02:12:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and they said, please, we need laws to follow. And

2458
02:12:44.640 --> 02:12:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Moses went and prayed to God, and God said, you

2459
02:12:46.640 --> 02:12:49.319
<v Speaker 1>cannot follow my laws. You're humans, you're imperfect. It is

2460
02:12:49.359 --> 02:12:51.560
<v Speaker 1>impossible for you to live a perfect life.

2461
02:12:51.680 --> 02:12:52.520
<v Speaker 2>He came down and.

2462
02:12:52.399 --> 02:12:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Told them this, and they're like, no, please, we need laws.

2463
02:12:54.920 --> 02:12:56.600
<v Speaker 1>And then he went and said, God, please, we need

2464
02:12:56.640 --> 02:12:58.920
<v Speaker 1>these laws. He's like, here's how impossible it is for

2465
02:12:58.960 --> 02:13:01.039
<v Speaker 1>you to follow my Mike glouree standard. I'll just give

2466
02:13:01.039 --> 02:13:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you the big ten real quick, and you'll see how

2467
02:13:03.319 --> 02:13:04.720
<v Speaker 1>impossible this is for you.

2468
02:13:04.960 --> 02:13:06.159
<v Speaker 2>By y'allm he created them.

2469
02:13:06.159 --> 02:13:08.279
<v Speaker 1>He came down and then half of them were worshiping

2470
02:13:08.279 --> 02:13:10.479
<v Speaker 1>a golden calf, and it was like, if you read

2471
02:13:10.520 --> 02:13:13.079
<v Speaker 1>the laws, it's impossible for you to live as a

2472
02:13:13.119 --> 02:13:16.520
<v Speaker 1>human and live according to these from birth to death.

2473
02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:17.600
<v Speaker 2>It's impossible.

2474
02:13:18.479 --> 02:13:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I think most Orthodoxys would disagree with you.

2475
02:13:21.039 --> 02:13:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I think we should thrive to follow them. But it's

2476
02:13:23.680 --> 02:13:24.439
<v Speaker 2>also important.

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02:13:24.640 --> 02:13:29.640
<v Speaker 14>So so, first of all, in the tour itself, especially

2478
02:13:30.479 --> 02:13:34.359
<v Speaker 14>right when Moses was about to die there he actually says,

2479
02:13:34.640 --> 02:13:36.399
<v Speaker 14>when you talked about the toy, he said, this thing

2480
02:13:37.159 --> 02:13:38.680
<v Speaker 14>is very close to you.

2481
02:13:39.479 --> 02:13:42.399
<v Speaker 3>It is not very far away, so for you to

2482
02:13:42.520 --> 02:13:46.960
<v Speaker 3>do it. So Moses in the Torah actually contradicts what

2483
02:13:47.039 --> 02:13:52.720
<v Speaker 3>you said. Are we perfect? No? Did God create us perfect? No?

2484
02:13:53.319 --> 02:13:56.479
<v Speaker 3>God creates to be humans. So like the whole thing

2485
02:13:56.680 --> 02:14:01.279
<v Speaker 3>is about the journey. It's not about that end goal.

2486
02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:05.039
<v Speaker 3>But there are plenty of people that can be You

2487
02:14:05.079 --> 02:14:08.640
<v Speaker 3>can be righteous, like it's it's possible to be right,

2488
02:14:08.880 --> 02:14:14.560
<v Speaker 3>and it's also possible to fulfill the things that God

2489
02:14:14.680 --> 02:14:19.239
<v Speaker 3>wanted us to do. Also, homiletically, one of the explanations

2490
02:14:19.279 --> 02:14:23.479
<v Speaker 3>for the one of the reasons why the sin of

2491
02:14:23.520 --> 02:14:27.760
<v Speaker 3>the Golden Cap happened. This is obviously a homiletic approach,

2492
02:14:28.279 --> 02:14:31.079
<v Speaker 3>but is the fact that as high as the Jews were,

2493
02:14:31.479 --> 02:14:33.680
<v Speaker 3>we went from the from the top of the heavens

2494
02:14:33.680 --> 02:14:36.039
<v Speaker 3>basically to the depths of hell. But at the end

2495
02:14:36.079 --> 02:14:39.479
<v Speaker 3>of the day, God still forgave us yea God. So

2496
02:14:39.560 --> 02:14:43.960
<v Speaker 3>like it was it was a lesson of repentance that

2497
02:14:44.039 --> 02:14:49.159
<v Speaker 3>God is merciful because when he came, even when when

2498
02:14:49.199 --> 02:14:52.439
<v Speaker 3>Moses went up and God said or gave the the

2499
02:14:52.640 --> 02:15:04.199
<v Speaker 3>thirteen not levels of mercy, but like when he said

2500
02:15:05.520 --> 02:15:09.439
<v Speaker 3>that he forgot that he forgave the Jewish people. So

2501
02:15:09.479 --> 02:15:13.600
<v Speaker 3>that's that was showing God's mercy so that regardless of

2502
02:15:13.680 --> 02:15:17.920
<v Speaker 3>whatever we do, right, so we can literally worship idols

2503
02:15:18.000 --> 02:15:24.560
<v Speaker 3>right after being given the Torah and God still forgives us. Sure,

2504
02:15:25.319 --> 02:15:27.439
<v Speaker 3>so that it kind of had it kind of had

2505
02:15:27.439 --> 02:15:34.119
<v Speaker 3>to happen lattically. That's that's one of the explanations is

2506
02:15:34.159 --> 02:15:39.920
<v Speaker 3>that it was orchestrated so that we could learn a

2507
02:15:40.000 --> 02:15:42.039
<v Speaker 3>lesson of repentance and forgiveness.

2508
02:15:43.600 --> 02:15:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Okay, And like I said, huh, what's that word?

2509
02:15:51.119 --> 02:15:58.520
<v Speaker 15>I don't know, like homilie, uh, like find of just

2510
02:15:58.720 --> 02:16:01.439
<v Speaker 15>to bring some Yeah, I guess to bring something out

2511
02:16:01.439 --> 02:16:04.560
<v Speaker 15>from it, so what we can learn from it?

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02:16:05.600 --> 02:16:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Got you, didn't half of the people die at that point?

2513
02:16:10.840 --> 02:16:13.800
<v Speaker 3>It was It wasn't half. There was. There was definitely

2514
02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:16.760
<v Speaker 3>a portion of them that died, but definitely not half.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I knew it was at least a giant chunk,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a third. I forget, it's been quite a while

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<v Speaker 1>since I read that section.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and I mean, even Jesus said to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the commandments. I'm not saying that we shouldn't try to

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<v Speaker 1>follow them to the best of our abilities. But also

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<v Speaker 1>I am of the belief that there is. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that it's impossible for human beings to do enough on

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02:16:39.799 --> 02:16:44.799
<v Speaker 1>our own to meet the standard because we're imperfect.

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're gonna fall short on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>All of us, even the most righteous and holy among us,

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02:16:51.159 --> 02:16:54.200
<v Speaker 1>are going to fall short of God's standard on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's sure.

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<v Speaker 3>We also don't believe in a permanent hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Well of course, no, well, oh that's true, y'all don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in a hell so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all believe in a like a temporary type situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, So call it a a yeah. Yeah, so call

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02:17:10.760 --> 02:17:14.959
<v Speaker 3>it a purgatory in the actual term of like purging

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02:17:15.680 --> 02:17:18.840
<v Speaker 3>of your sins. And if you didn't do good, you

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02:17:18.840 --> 02:17:22.719
<v Speaker 3>can there is reincarnation, or you can go to heaven.

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02:17:23.639 --> 02:17:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Did you believe in reincarnation?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Sorry, we do. We do, really and believe it

2540
02:17:30.719 --> 02:17:33.120
<v Speaker 3>or not. The New Testament actually backs it up because

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02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:36.639
<v Speaker 3>they even asked Jesus if he was a reincarnation of Elijah.

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02:17:36.639 --> 02:17:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, and he said he wasn't. But they

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02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:44.920
<v Speaker 1>asked him, meaning that they already had a precedence for this, correct.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, So a second coming is kind of like reincarnation.

2545
02:17:49.319 --> 02:17:52.520
<v Speaker 5>I haven't thought of it that way. But that makes sense,

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02:17:53.120 --> 02:17:53.399
<v Speaker 5>but not.

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02:17:53.399 --> 02:17:56.120
<v Speaker 1>In the reincarnation sense that we take it to mean, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm living this life, but this soul has already well

2549
02:17:59.000 --> 02:18:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is it is where your where your soul

2551
02:18:06.280 --> 02:18:12.000
<v Speaker 3>trans migrates. So you, you, Jacob, might not have this

2552
02:18:12.159 --> 02:18:15.360
<v Speaker 3>might not have been your first time with the rodeo.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard the Jews believed in reincarnation. This is

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<v Speaker 1>next level. Okay, another quick question, super off topic, but

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02:18:26.600 --> 02:18:29.479
<v Speaker 1>super on topic as well. I'm here in rumors that

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<v Speaker 1>the Gypsies might actually be the lost tribe of Dan.

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02:18:32.600 --> 02:18:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts on this, Royce.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There's no there's no genetic testing for it.

2559
02:18:39.719 --> 02:18:40.200
<v Speaker 2>No, there's not.

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02:18:40.559 --> 02:18:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there's really only I was starting to cute

2561
02:18:45.280 --> 02:18:48.040
<v Speaker 3>about this before a little bit. There's really only three

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02:18:49.000 --> 02:18:53.639
<v Speaker 3>current categories of Jews, right, I Mean, we all follo

2563
02:18:53.680 --> 02:18:56.680
<v Speaker 3>under Jews, but like three different three main tribes. You

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02:18:56.680 --> 02:19:00.120
<v Speaker 3>have the Cohens, the priests, you have the Ladies, which

2565
02:19:00.200 --> 02:19:04.559
<v Speaker 3>are like the Efficiants, and then you have the other

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02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:09.799
<v Speaker 3>ten tribes that are now just colloquially called is Jews.

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02:19:09.799 --> 02:19:12.360
<v Speaker 3>So one of the things that the Messiah is supposed

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02:19:12.360 --> 02:19:16.879
<v Speaker 3>to do besides rebuild the temple, institute, reinstitute sacrifices, et cetera,

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02:19:17.680 --> 02:19:23.200
<v Speaker 3>is to get people to be where to know where

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02:19:23.200 --> 02:19:25.840
<v Speaker 3>they're from, what lineage, and what line.

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02:19:27.120 --> 02:19:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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02:19:29.520 --> 02:19:30.879
<v Speaker 5>And isn't everyone kind of mixed up?

2573
02:19:30.920 --> 02:19:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Now? Though? Right? Oh? We are, We're we're extremely mixed up.

2574
02:19:34.040 --> 02:19:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Like wouldn't we like I don't we don't know who's

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02:19:38.159 --> 02:19:42.360
<v Speaker 3>from what tribe of Dan of Tali? You know that

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02:19:42.440 --> 02:19:47.879
<v Speaker 3>the only people that really kept a great documentation from

2577
02:19:48.120 --> 02:19:50.719
<v Speaker 3>and from father to son to father the son would

2578
02:19:50.719 --> 02:19:54.520
<v Speaker 3>be the the Collins and the ladies. Everybody else kind

2579
02:19:54.520 --> 02:19:58.479
<v Speaker 3>of really got interspersed amongst the land and assimilated.

2580
02:19:58.719 --> 02:20:01.239
<v Speaker 5>When are tribe of Judah.

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02:20:03.319 --> 02:20:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Hold on two different people talking?

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02:20:05.559 --> 02:20:09.319
<v Speaker 5>What go ahead, Tony, I was gonna say that the

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02:20:09.360 --> 02:20:13.399
<v Speaker 5>tribe of Judah's where most modern Jews think they descend from,

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02:20:13.440 --> 02:20:16.719
<v Speaker 5>and that most of the tribes that were up north,

2585
02:20:17.200 --> 02:20:23.079
<v Speaker 5>like uh Zebulun and all those didn't they just blend

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02:20:23.159 --> 02:20:28.120
<v Speaker 5>with the Assyrians and the Babylonians and become Palestinian or something.

2587
02:20:29.719 --> 02:20:32.600
<v Speaker 5>The Samaritans Amaricans. Yeah, there we go.

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02:20:36.200 --> 02:20:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I definitely know that that there was

2589
02:20:38.079 --> 02:20:43.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot of assimilation, and the the tribes that mainly

2590
02:20:43.719 --> 02:20:47.959
<v Speaker 3>stayed true to themselves were I think the southern tribes

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02:20:48.120 --> 02:20:53.559
<v Speaker 3>of the As, the Cohens, and the Levites.

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02:20:54.200 --> 02:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask you said leaves earlier, is do

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02:20:56.760 --> 02:20:59.399
<v Speaker 1>would we in our English speaking call that Levites?

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02:21:00.479 --> 02:21:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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02:21:01.239 --> 02:21:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, So that's the tribe that you're saying they

2596
02:21:03.959 --> 02:21:06.479
<v Speaker 1>kept their followed a son to follow the son. They've

2597
02:21:06.479 --> 02:21:08.799
<v Speaker 1>got a pretty good journology for it, okay.

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02:21:08.639 --> 02:21:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Because right, and so some of them say that they

2599
02:21:12.200 --> 02:21:14.520
<v Speaker 3>can actually trace it all the way back up. You're

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02:21:14.520 --> 02:21:15.840
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be able to trace it all the bit,

2601
02:21:15.920 --> 02:21:18.440
<v Speaker 3>all the way back up to Moses and Aaron. That's

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02:21:18.440 --> 02:21:23.559
<v Speaker 3>how that's how legit it's supposed to be. So like

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02:21:23.600 --> 02:21:28.559
<v Speaker 3>whenever you hear someone who's in Cats, that's or Cohen. Obviously,

2604
02:21:28.559 --> 02:21:35.399
<v Speaker 3>these are very Jewish names and specifically of that tribe.

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02:21:35.959 --> 02:21:39.399
<v Speaker 3>And one of the reasons why they had they kept

2606
02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:43.799
<v Speaker 3>so good records is because even in the synagogue, there's

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02:21:43.879 --> 02:21:49.120
<v Speaker 3>like special honors that are that are given to to

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02:21:49.280 --> 02:21:53.000
<v Speaker 3>serve not necessarily tithes anymore, but when it comes to

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02:21:53.399 --> 02:21:55.639
<v Speaker 3>whenever somebody is called up for the Torah, you know,

2610
02:21:55.680 --> 02:21:58.760
<v Speaker 3>the first person that's called up is from the tribe

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02:21:58.799 --> 02:22:01.639
<v Speaker 3>of or from the co on In line, the second

2612
02:22:01.840 --> 02:22:08.079
<v Speaker 3>from the Leavete line, and then the other five are

2613
02:22:08.559 --> 02:22:09.760
<v Speaker 3>just random people.

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<v Speaker 2>Got you last question? Don't the Jews have a rule

2615
02:22:16.719 --> 02:22:17.600
<v Speaker 2>against tattoos?

2616
02:22:19.280 --> 02:22:20.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you're talking about?

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02:22:21.000 --> 02:22:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough, No, no, no, just.

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02:22:24.239 --> 02:22:27.079
<v Speaker 3>No, just kidding for sure. I got I got my

2619
02:22:27.159 --> 02:22:31.280
<v Speaker 3>tattoos when I was a lot less religious got you.

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02:22:31.520 --> 02:22:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I have no judgment, I have ink myself. I'm just

2621
02:22:33.920 --> 02:22:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking because I've heard we're not supposed to yeah,

2622
02:22:39.520 --> 02:22:41.040
<v Speaker 1>with your family or something with that.

2623
02:22:41.760 --> 02:22:44.799
<v Speaker 3>There there was a rumor saying that if you get tattoos,

2624
02:22:45.040 --> 02:22:47.520
<v Speaker 3>they're they're not going to be buried in a Jewish cemetery.

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02:22:47.680 --> 02:22:51.000
<v Speaker 3>That's incorrect, and you will, you will be born, you

2626
02:22:51.000 --> 02:22:54.680
<v Speaker 3>will be very you'll have your final rights given, which

2627
02:22:54.719 --> 02:22:57.120
<v Speaker 3>is kind of a cool process, and then you'll be buried.

2628
02:22:57.879 --> 02:22:59.879
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's not not cremated.

2629
02:23:00.079 --> 02:23:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Cremation is not not a Jewish thing at all, right.

2630
02:23:03.799 --> 02:23:05.959
<v Speaker 2>Right, for sure? Okay.

2631
02:23:06.120 --> 02:23:08.879
<v Speaker 5>Catholicism used to be like that. Then they kind of

2632
02:23:08.959 --> 02:23:10.360
<v Speaker 5>changed for some reason.

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02:23:10.520 --> 02:23:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Because they kept running out of funeral places. Man, I

2634
02:23:13.239 --> 02:23:16.079
<v Speaker 1>mean looking in Louisiana, I know for sure, speaking on

2635
02:23:16.120 --> 02:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>behalf of the Catholic upbringing and stuff, there's only so

2636
02:23:19.559 --> 02:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>many places we can bury them where they're not going

2637
02:23:21.360 --> 02:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to float away with groundwater.

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02:23:23.200 --> 02:23:24.079
<v Speaker 2>It became more.

2639
02:23:25.399 --> 02:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a lack of space issue at some point.

2640
02:23:28.280 --> 02:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess I could see it.

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02:23:30.239 --> 02:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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02:23:31.120 --> 02:23:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm still excited to have my ashes putting fireworks. That's

2643
02:23:34.239 --> 02:23:36.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a blast.

2644
02:23:39.639 --> 02:23:39.959
<v Speaker 4>All right.

2645
02:23:40.920 --> 02:23:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I think it's about time we wrapped this one up.

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02:23:43.319 --> 02:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I thoroughly enjoyed this brain expanding conversation from all parties tonight.

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02:23:49.079 --> 02:23:51.280
<v Speaker 2>We kind of covered a wide range of things tonight.

2648
02:23:52.280 --> 02:23:55.680
<v Speaker 1>We covered drones, We covered new technologies in the medical field.

2649
02:23:55.719 --> 02:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>We covered.

2650
02:23:58.079 --> 02:24:00.719
<v Speaker 1>The fog and how that all goes back to a

2651
02:24:00.760 --> 02:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy from the CIA. We talked about hallucinogenics in that

2652
02:24:06.360 --> 02:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of experiment going down in France that I knew

2653
02:24:08.479 --> 02:24:09.719
<v Speaker 1>nothing about up until tonight.

2654
02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:12.479
<v Speaker 2>We talked about Abraham Cklaw. We talked about.

2655
02:24:12.319 --> 02:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Christian versus Jewish conversations.

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02:24:14.959 --> 02:24:18.440
<v Speaker 2>This was awesome. I had a blast night. So thank

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02:24:18.520 --> 02:24:19.200
<v Speaker 2>y'all for coming.

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02:24:19.760 --> 02:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And if anybody listening to this the following day Thursday

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02:24:23.040 --> 02:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>would like to join in next week for this conversation,

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02:24:25.280 --> 02:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>then come check out Cajun Night on Patreon and be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of this conversation next week. Y'all, take care.
