Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the or over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Happen? What
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Or was it was?
Speaker 1: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus,
Speaker 1: quice you better New York. Hello, get somebody out here.
Speaker 3: What quen on out there?
Speaker 1: I thought of a bit of about sixty forty nine.
Speaker 1: I don't know easy out there? Yeah, I'm wuking right head.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, Grittings is read Alaska text. You're joining me today.
Speaker 3: What I want to share with you comes from Paul
Speaker 3: and his son. Paul is approaching eighty. His son is
Speaker 3: a little older than me. Actually, I believe his son
Speaker 3: is fifty two. Now. Paul is an atta natives from
Speaker 3: the Copper River area. He has relatives in Saltia. This
Speaker 3: particular instance happened near the Salta River. Family used to
Speaker 3: have a cabin up that way off of a little
Speaker 3: small tributary, couldn't really call it a river, but a
Speaker 3: tributary to the Saltia which is a glorified creek. This
Speaker 3: particular instance happened back when his son, who's fifty two now,
Speaker 3: is approximately ten years old. It was a family cabin
Speaker 3: before the elder owner of it got rid of it.
Speaker 3: What ended up happening is Paul goes up with the sun.
Speaker 3: They were doing some fishing and potentially get a moose.
Speaker 3: For Paul, it was more spending time with the sun
Speaker 3: than anything. He wasn't really concerned with necessarily tagging a moose,
Speaker 3: even though that would have been great. It wasn't the
Speaker 3: overall driving force. It's more get time of the sun outdoors.
Speaker 3: They plan on being up there two weeks. They were
Speaker 3: a little over week into the trip. Things were getting
Speaker 3: ready to wind down in the next few days, so
Speaker 3: the emphasis on hunting really stepped up right out behind
Speaker 3: the cabin. Further up this glorified creek was a meadow
Speaker 3: where they had some beaver ponds and muskeg that fed
Speaker 3: this particular creek. He knew moose hung out there and stuff,
Speaker 3: so that was always in his back pocket. It was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I got my trump cart over here, I'll take the
Speaker 3: boy out there once things get moving along or whatever.
Speaker 3: And he spent some quality time with them, teaching them
Speaker 3: how to split wood and start a fire, just basic stuff.
Speaker 3: The morning they were going out there, his son was
Speaker 3: carrying his grandpa's thirty out six, which the stock had
Speaker 3: been cut down a little bit because his grandpa was
Speaker 3: a little dude, so it was good kit sized by
Speaker 3: very powerful. He wanted his son to have a little
Speaker 3: something to knock the moose down with. Paul had a
Speaker 3: thirty out six as well. So they go back and
Speaker 3: they follow this creek all the way back. It was
Speaker 3: a couple of miles to where you get to this
Speaker 3: muske in this open meadow with the beaver pond and
Speaker 3: some other stuff. He said. Once they got up there
Speaker 3: and they cleared the tree line, it opened up more
Speaker 3: into the tundra type stuff. You could see the mounds
Speaker 3: off in the background. There was the beginnings the foothills
Speaker 3: of the mounds directly in front of them, on the
Speaker 3: far end of this Muskeg swamp, this marsh area. So
Speaker 3: his plan was to circle around to the right and
Speaker 3: get back past the beaver pond because this particular stretch
Speaker 3: of tundra in marsh, back around the corner a little ways,
Speaker 3: it was a little firmer ground and that's usually where
Speaker 3: you find the moose. So he takes his boy, let's
Speaker 3: call his boy Aleck. Okay, So Paul and Alick they
Speaker 3: get across. There's a couple kind of mushy spots, just
Speaker 3: kind of like walking on a waterbed. But he gets
Speaker 3: Aleck across their safely and everything, and they get back
Speaker 3: and they're following along just inside the tree line where
Speaker 3: the tree line meets up with the tundra and then
Speaker 3: it goes off into the marsh off to the left.
Speaker 3: They get back to where hooks around. As they're getting there, Paul,
Speaker 3: here's a weird sound. Now this is in the wee
Speaker 3: hours of the morning. It's in the fall, towards the
Speaker 3: end of August. He hears what he thought was a
Speaker 3: wolf pal which I mean shit. In the big scheme
Speaker 3: of things, he really wasn't concerned if it was a
Speaker 3: wolf or not, because they'd get a wolf if it
Speaker 3: wasn't a mossie. No big deal as far as he
Speaker 3: was concerned. So he was like, just be aware. Alec
Speaker 3: was a little intimidated by the wolf. Pal unslung the
Speaker 3: rifle and was holding it, and he was like, calm down,
Speaker 3: sluing that rifle. I'll let you know when you need
Speaker 3: to get your gun ready. So as there just inside
Speaker 3: the tree line, just a few paces, just to stay
Speaker 3: out of the open you. Every once in a while
Speaker 3: he would have Alex stan still and he would go
Speaker 3: to the tree line and look and see if there's
Speaker 3: any moose nearby or movement going on or whatever. And
Speaker 3: as they work around the curses right a little bit,
Speaker 3: it's like a sock shape. Let's say you're going up
Speaker 3: half of the sock, and then the back end would
Speaker 3: be like the foot of the sock, and it hooked
Speaker 3: off to the right a little bit. But that's the
Speaker 3: shape of this marshy area. And so as they're going along,
Speaker 3: he was just about at the apex when he came
Speaker 3: out to look one last time and straight across what
Speaker 3: it would be the toe area of the sock shaped
Speaker 3: kind of meadow, he noticed something big and brown over there,
Speaker 3: and instantly that's that moose. He thought, Wow, I wonder
Speaker 3: if wolf Hack is after it, that'd be cool for
Speaker 3: us to watch. So he saw that tuck back in
Speaker 3: let Alec know his moose is up there. So they
Speaker 3: continue on and they're cutting through the brush quietly so
Speaker 3: they could come out of the tree line and be
Speaker 3: not visible but have a good open view of this thing,
Speaker 3: and so his son could have a perfect shot right
Speaker 3: hopefully broadside, and just a nice could kill shop. So
Speaker 3: when they get up to the area where they can
Speaker 3: more clearly see into the open as they're still behind
Speaker 3: it in the tree line in a little ways, he's
Speaker 3: looking to where he saw that brown spot, and he
Speaker 3: notices this brown spot hadn't moved into the brush a
Speaker 3: little more. It was a little more shaded, so it
Speaker 3: was darker looking, but he could see it moving, but
Speaker 3: the movement was different than he was accustomed to see
Speaker 3: him from a moose. It was a lot more faster
Speaker 3: movements back and forth, and a lot more kind of
Speaker 3: a bobbing type of motion. But again it was obscured
Speaker 3: because of the shadowing and stuff. He couldn't fully make
Speaker 3: it out. So they get a little closer, and they
Speaker 3: moved down a little ways because of the way the
Speaker 3: wind was blowing. He didn't want a scent picked up
Speaker 3: and blowing around this area and potentially getting back to
Speaker 3: the moose and startling it or whatever, so they moved
Speaker 3: a little further down. When they repositioned and he got
Speaker 3: Alex ready. Alex sat there and he was holding the rifle,
Speaker 3: just waiting. Paul started making his moose call. The first
Speaker 3: couple of calls he made, which they weren't just back
Speaker 3: to back, you get time in between. That way, it
Speaker 3: sounds natural. So he makes the first one, no attention
Speaker 3: from this thing across the way, which he assumed it
Speaker 3: was a bull moose. No attention given. Second call, this
Speaker 3: thing moves inside the opposite tree line, which is about
Speaker 3: seventy yards distance inside the tree line, moving and he figured, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: the moose is moving around to try to look for
Speaker 3: this cow. Call. So he waits a little while longer
Speaker 3: and calls again. Meanwhile, in between the call, she repositioned
Speaker 3: back to his left, staying in the tree line, but
Speaker 3: give him more distance that he didn't want the bullmos
Speaker 3: to come right out on him when if his son
Speaker 3: missed the shot, potentially they get charged or whatever. So
Speaker 3: he was trying to keep a safe distance for son
Speaker 3: to get this shot. He said, when he made about
Speaker 3: the fourth call, this thing came out of the trees
Speaker 3: slowly and was looking back and forth, and it wasn't
Speaker 3: a moose. Immediately he knew it was a bushman. Harry mate.
Speaker 3: His son was just about to talk, and he covers
Speaker 3: his mouth says, that's a bushman. We're going to get
Speaker 3: out of here. We don't want nothing to do with.
Speaker 3: As he had heard all the stories, he had seen
Speaker 3: one a couple times in the past, but it was
Speaker 3: never that close, and he just told us, stay quiet,
Speaker 3: stay quiet, We're okay. And as he's talking to his son,
Speaker 3: it comes out. Nick starts skirting the tree line back
Speaker 3: in the direction he originally saw it, and the way
Speaker 3: it was moving was bobbing down, standing up, moving back
Speaker 3: and forth, smelling the air, just looking around and basically
Speaker 3: doing what Paul had been doing before that, looking around
Speaker 3: trying to find this move. So this thing was doing
Speaker 3: the opposite, looking back in their direction, and finally it
Speaker 3: got to a spot and it squatted down right in
Speaker 3: front of some willows. This thing squatted down is looking
Speaker 3: straight at Paul and his son. He locked onto him.
Speaker 3: Paul said, he sensed it, knew they were over there.
Speaker 3: It was just trying to figure out where and pinpointed me.
Speaker 3: He said, it felt like he had us pinpointed, but
Speaker 3: he didn't have a visual line of sight until he
Speaker 3: got to that point, which again, at this point was
Speaker 3: maybe eighty yards at the mom which in the big
Speaker 3: scheme of things ain't that far. So when a squatted
Speaker 3: down has got a lock on him, Paul stands up.
Speaker 3: He's holding his rifle in his hands and he waves
Speaker 3: them and goes, hey, we'll hunt somewhere else. We'll go
Speaker 3: hunt somewhere else. This thing immediately turns and runs off
Speaker 3: into the brush behind it. Here's crashing and thrashing as
Speaker 3: it's moving off to their left on that opposite tree line,
Speaker 3: back up in the trees going up this initial foothill
Speaker 3: of the mountains behind there. Figures, great, it's getting away
Speaker 3: from us. So he immediately gets Alec in front of
Speaker 3: him as they're going back. Now on their way back,
Speaker 3: they're coming up onto the beaver pond. Periodically, Paul would
Speaker 3: hear noises he was trying out to be paranoid, but
Speaker 3: it sounded like movement behind him with branches breaking periodically,
Speaker 3: so he would stop, try not to scare Alex, because
Speaker 3: Alec was already freaked out when he was a kid
Speaker 3: seeing this stuff, and he was not feeling it. So
Speaker 3: Paul was checking every once in a while. He said,
Speaker 3: it was the last time. He couldn't just pass it off. Oh,
Speaker 3: it was just a coincidental noise because of how loud
Speaker 3: it was. It was cracked, something obviously big was broken.
Speaker 3: And he happened to look back and there was some
Speaker 3: black spruce and stuff intermingled within this tree line, so
Speaker 3: it was mainly black spruce, some willows, and then there
Speaker 3: was aspen here and there not very many in some alders.
Speaker 3: It was more black spruce than anything, so you'd have
Speaker 3: willow obscuring the lower ground and then the black spruce intermix.
Speaker 3: And he said, when he looked back to figure out
Speaker 3: what the noise was because it was so loud, he
Speaker 3: saw basically a hand letting go of a black spruce
Speaker 3: that had been broken in half. Just as he looked
Speaker 3: back because of the loud noise, because he turned around
Speaker 3: real fast, he saw a hand, this thing's hand. Obviously
Speaker 3: it broke it, but everything was so obscured. He only
Speaker 3: saw part of the hand and part of the forearm
Speaker 3: as this thing was moving off to the right, which
Speaker 3: was only maybe forty five fifty feet behind them, which
Speaker 3: again freaked him out. Alec was really freaked. He had
Speaker 3: to rifle shouldered. Paul was like, calm down, I will
Speaker 3: tell you when you need to worry about shooting, and
Speaker 3: Alec was just like, let's go, Dad, I just want
Speaker 3: to go. Paul wanted nothing to do with that shit.
Speaker 3: As they continued on have Alec move forward as he
Speaker 3: kept watching him with quickly catch up to him, constantly surveying,
Speaker 3: and they were coming into the area where the trees
Speaker 3: weren't so densely packed it. It opened up a little
Speaker 3: more as it was moving out onto the tundra right,
Speaker 3: so they get clear of the trees and now they
Speaker 3: just have a short bit of firm tundra. Before I
Speaker 3: got Marshie that real marshy spot where they had to
Speaker 3: cross was like walking on a waterbed. When they came
Speaker 3: out into the opening the beaver ponds off to their left,
Speaker 3: there's an active beaver at the time, a pretty good
Speaker 3: sized lodge that was not that far away from the
Speaker 3: edge the line of the marsh where it looked solid,
Speaker 3: which probably wasn't very solid at all, but there wasn't
Speaker 3: much distance between what appeared to be solid ground in
Speaker 3: this lodge. So he gets aleck across the direction they came.
Speaker 3: When they got across there and they were on more
Speaker 3: firm ground, Paul turned around and looked This thing was
Speaker 3: just outside of the tree line, squatted down. It was
Speaker 3: sniffing the ground, which really creeped Paul out. He told
Speaker 3: Alec not to look that way, to look the other way,
Speaker 3: because he didn't want a son seeing it, for one,
Speaker 3: and he didn't want this thing to take his son
Speaker 3: looking as some kind of challenge. Being weirded out by
Speaker 3: this thing squatted down sniffing, Paul again waves his arm
Speaker 3: with his rifle. Hey, we're going to hunt elsewhere. Let
Speaker 3: us be. We leave you be, no harm, leave us
Speaker 3: alone kind of thing. This thing just ignored what he
Speaker 3: was saying and kept smelling the ground and moving around
Speaker 3: down on all fours. He said, imagine if a man
Speaker 3: just leaned down, put his hands out and was moving
Speaker 3: around on his tippy toes in his hands that's what
Speaker 3: it looked like from his perspective, how it was moving
Speaker 3: around and stuff. He said, the movements were real, sporadic.
Speaker 3: They would lower down, sniffing, and then it would arch up,
Speaker 3: blow up, and then do the same thing over, move
Speaker 3: around at one point spinning in a little bit of
Speaker 3: a circle. This is all happening. Wait faster. Its movements
Speaker 3: were real, sporadic and fast away. It was sniffing and
Speaker 3: stub like it was getting worked up or excited, which
Speaker 3: again threaked him out. So he telled Alex, you keep
Speaker 3: walking forward, but you stop. Once you get fully off
Speaker 3: of the marshy spot, you stop. So Alex is doing
Speaker 3: that while Paul is watching, and he has the rifle
Speaker 3: at a little ready at this point. He doesn't want
Speaker 3: to have to shoot at to say so. After this
Speaker 3: thing stops, braddick spinning around and sniffing and stuff, and
Speaker 3: it moved back off into the trees. So that's when
Speaker 3: Paul turned and caught up with the sun. In the
Speaker 3: brief distance, I'm not even thirty feet to catch up
Speaker 3: to where his sun was, he was trotting. He was
Speaker 3: as quickly as he could in boots on the tundrus
Speaker 3: as soon as he catches up to the son, he
Speaker 3: hears the water smacking sound and looks back and this
Speaker 3: thing is bee lining straight towards them and is basically
Speaker 3: almost where Paul was when and he turned just a
Speaker 3: second ago to come and ketch up with his son.
Speaker 3: It was moving fast, so Paul raises his rifle and
Speaker 3: lets to round go bay Am. He said, this thing
Speaker 3: hit the dirt hard, tumbled over, not fully stood up,
Speaker 3: heading away from him, and he took back off into
Speaker 3: the trees. Scared the shit out of Paul because he
Speaker 3: thought it was going to continue coming. He said. He
Speaker 3: thought he had a good shot on it, but it
Speaker 3: was past adrenaline pumping and stuff. So once this thing
Speaker 3: runs off, he again turns his attention to get the
Speaker 3: hell out of there. He just shot this thing, and
Speaker 3: he wanted no part of the potential after math of that.
Speaker 3: They only had about maybe fifty ish feet before the
Speaker 3: other tree line started where they followed the creek back
Speaker 3: down to the cabin. Once he got to that tree line,
Speaker 3: he was constantly looking over his shoulder. How he missed
Speaker 3: this thing, how quickly it moved, he doesn't know. But
Speaker 3: by time they got over there, he was here and cracking.
Speaker 3: As he looks back and turns around and looks, this
Speaker 3: thing is tearing apart that beaver lodge. It ran into
Speaker 3: the trees. He turned around. They're trying to get back
Speaker 3: to their back trail to get back to the cabin.
Speaker 3: In that brief fifty feet if that whatever it was
Speaker 3: with him looking back, he never heard it or nose
Speaker 3: hit until the cracking and thrashing that it was making.
Speaker 3: So when it turned around and looked and it's tearing
Speaker 3: apart this beaver lodge, and stay tuned for more sasquatch
Speaker 3: out to see. We'll be right back after the east messages.
Speaker 3: He said, shit was flying. He said it was throwing
Speaker 3: an everlove and fit, just like one handful after another,
Speaker 3: just ripping this thing apart. He said he could see
Speaker 3: the marsh ripple in from this thing's body weight. He
Speaker 3: was like stuffed for a second. Alex started crying. That
Speaker 3: snapped him out of it here in the sun cry
Speaker 3: because he was watching this display of awesome power just
Speaker 3: tearing this thing apart. So boom, he refocuses and they
Speaker 3: get down going down the trail. Now, this particular trail
Speaker 3: is a game trail, but it was also used by
Speaker 3: him and other family members over the year, so it
Speaker 3: was pretty well beaten pass. Depending time of the year,
Speaker 3: the brush was closer in or further back. As they
Speaker 3: were going back down, he said that they got maybe
Speaker 3: one hundred yards down when he started hearing breaking and noises.
Speaker 3: At the head of the trail. It meets up with
Speaker 3: that marshary, So he turns around and he's got his
Speaker 3: gun up. He's trying to figure out if it's coming
Speaker 3: after him or if it's just an echoing or something
Speaker 3: else going on in other than what he was fearing
Speaker 3: that it was following them. He heard some noises and
Speaker 3: it went quiet, so he decided to come on, let's go.
Speaker 3: Turned around. Alec kept going. He kept going. He said,
Speaker 3: every about twenty five thirty yards he would have to
Speaker 3: stop because there was a new noise, and it always
Speaker 3: stayed a certain distance behind him. As they were moving along,
Speaker 3: he got the feeling that he was being watched. As
Speaker 3: he's looking up the trail, he got the feeling is
Speaker 3: being watched from behind him, which Alec was standing right
Speaker 3: behind him like on his hip. So when he turned
Speaker 3: around to look further down the trail, it was hard
Speaker 3: to see it was obscured, but he saw a dark
Speaker 3: figure move out of view right. He said, the hair
Speaker 3: stood up real hard, like wirely bristols all over his body,
Speaker 3: and he told Alec to grab onto his belt. So
Speaker 3: Alec grabbed a hold of his belt. He said, do
Speaker 3: you hold onto my belt tight? He said, you're gonna
Speaker 3: trot and run beside Dad, you just hold on. So
Speaker 3: Paul is basically half running. Alec is holding his belt
Speaker 3: hanging on as Paul's pulling him along, and he's going
Speaker 3: straight forwards where this thing induct and his reasoning was
Speaker 3: is he was going to basically bluff charge this thing
Speaker 3: and hopefully moving so they could get past it, because
Speaker 3: he didn't want anything blocking him from potentially getting to
Speaker 3: the cabin for safety and having some barriers up. He said,
Speaker 3: he was going along and as he was approaching that area,
Speaker 3: he saw this thing moving off to his lap, just
Speaker 3: straight away from the trail perpendicular to Joe, just straight away,
Speaker 3: not circling around like flank or anything. So that kind
Speaker 3: of gave him a calm feelings. They got past that
Speaker 3: spot and then he stopped and turned back and was
Speaker 3: holding the rifle, trying to assess and listen for sound
Speaker 3: and everything, and the one that was between him and
Speaker 3: the cabin that really startled him had run straight away
Speaker 3: from the trail where he had stopped to turn and look.
Speaker 3: He had a little bit of an alley way between
Speaker 3: the trees where he could see the direction this thing
Speaker 3: had gone. Sure enough, this thing was standing there, but
Speaker 3: it was at a distance, and it was just obscured
Speaker 3: by some black spruce and of course the willows. It
Speaker 3: was there, but it was further away. So turned again,
Speaker 3: pulled out a cold on, and he kept doing that.
Speaker 3: He heard noises a couple more times, but it faded
Speaker 3: off and stopped the closer they got to the cabin,
Speaker 3: which was again a couple of miles distant. So because
Speaker 3: there was enough distance between the last sighting and the
Speaker 3: last noises, he felt a little more comfortable. So what
Speaker 3: he did was he didn't want them basically following them
Speaker 3: back to the cabin. He didn't know what to do
Speaker 3: though to prevent that, because it's just one game. Trail
Speaker 3: was like, duh, it doesn't take a rocket scientist followed
Speaker 3: the trail. I'm sure if they're in the area, they've
Speaker 3: seen this cabin before. You know what, I mean, he
Speaker 3: figured okay. He got Alec inside, looked around and there
Speaker 3: was two windows, one on each side, and they were
Speaker 3: about three foot square something like that. On either side.
Speaker 3: It had an old oil drip stove and also a
Speaker 3: woodburning stove. It had been decked out over the years
Speaker 3: some amenities and some creature comforts as far as what
Speaker 3: was available. Especially getting it up river is as his nightmare.
Speaker 3: He gets Alex situated, tells him, hey, if anything other
Speaker 3: than me comes through the door, you shoot it. I'm
Speaker 3: going to be right back, and he grabs some of
Speaker 3: this clorox and he goes basically about fifty yards up
Speaker 3: to trail and is just whipping this clorox back and
Speaker 3: forth all over the place, trying to mask their scent. Basically,
Speaker 3: it was the only thing he could think of at
Speaker 3: the time, and he said, looking back on it, it
Speaker 3: was pointless because it didn't work, but he was trying.
Speaker 3: So he does all that. He empties it out basically
Speaker 3: by time he gets back to cabin, drops it on
Speaker 3: the ground and runs back inside. Didn't hear anything. It
Speaker 3: was dead quiet. Now. All this started at the wee
Speaker 3: hours of the morning, and they were back home start
Speaker 3: to finish within four hours five hours, because it took
Speaker 3: time with a little one dope hike up and get
Speaker 3: across all this terrain, move slowly, quietly all that. So
Speaker 3: it was roughly around noonish when they got back safely
Speaker 3: in the cabin. Now Paul would regularly check the windows.
Speaker 3: They would play card games and some other stuff keep
Speaker 3: Alec his mind off of it. He's not a dumb kid.
Speaker 3: He'd ask, what's going on, Dad? Is it out there?
Speaker 3: Anytime he was looking, and Alec kept saying, it's scary
Speaker 3: looking that bushman scary. Finally he asked, Paul, is it
Speaker 3: going to heat us? Paul was like, not if I
Speaker 3: have anything to do with that. It had been a
Speaker 3: while since any family members had been up there. But
Speaker 3: there was curtin. Someone had taken an old military duffel
Speaker 3: bag type of thing and they cut it open and
Speaker 3: made a pretty good non sea through curtain right land
Speaker 3: of the midnight sun type stuff. The way it was
Speaker 3: nailed up into the window casing it blocked out all
Speaker 3: the light. You just push it back in there and
Speaker 3: it blocked it out. So as the day went on,
Speaker 3: Paul decided, all right, now is a good time to
Speaker 3: push these into place so nothing can watch us. He
Speaker 3: does the one side so if he's inside the cabin
Speaker 3: looking at the front door. He did the one off
Speaker 3: to the right first, which was the one that was
Speaker 3: closest to this little glorified feet or creek. So he
Speaker 3: goes over he does that one, and this was just
Speaker 3: before dusk that he was doing this. As he's doing
Speaker 3: that one, the light behind him from the other window
Speaker 3: because they mirrored each other even on the wall their placement.
Speaker 3: Because he was getting that one set, he saw a
Speaker 3: shadow move in the light from the opposite window. So
Speaker 3: immediately he turns and he sees this thing slowly peeking
Speaker 3: around looking in and his heart stopped. He's like, holy crap.
Speaker 3: Before he could even say anything, Alex is standing up
Speaker 3: and he had to tell him stop stop. Alex had
Speaker 3: that rifle and was about to shoot this thing as
Speaker 3: soon as he started yelling at Alek. Wassen moved out
Speaker 3: of the view and Paul goes over and fixes the
Speaker 3: makeshift curtain into place. As they're sitting there, Paul was
Speaker 3: sitting there thinking, man, the dead bolt on that door,
Speaker 3: I mean much, so he was trying to think of
Speaker 3: what other detorts does he have, and so what he
Speaker 3: decided to do was take some nails. It was a
Speaker 3: hardwood door, so with the door shut, he nailed through
Speaker 3: the edge of it at a kind of like a
Speaker 3: forty five degree angle kind of toe, nailing in three
Speaker 3: separate spots above the dead bolt and then below the
Speaker 3: dead bolt, just a little added measure of holding force,
Speaker 3: which again it was spitballing. Obviously, these things are powerful
Speaker 3: enough they would have been irrelevant. He fired up the
Speaker 3: lanterns they had in there. Again, the place had been
Speaker 3: heavily used over the years, so there was a lot
Speaker 3: of little amenities. He lit the lanterns and start did
Speaker 3: the drip stove to heat up dinner. Mom had sent
Speaker 3: them with pre made meals ready to go make it
Speaker 3: easier for him dealing with the younger boy or whatever it.
Speaker 3: Put whatever it was onto the pot to slowly warm up.
Speaker 3: He had that going warming up. He was just talking
Speaker 3: regular stuff with the sun, trying to keep him calm
Speaker 3: because he could tell it was really freaking him out.
Speaker 3: As the dinner was just getting done, one of the
Speaker 3: lamps with the wick was acting funny, so he had
Speaker 3: blown it out and was adjusting it and showing Alec
Speaker 3: how to do it, just teach him some little distractions,
Speaker 3: and as he's doing so, there's a huge hard thud. Damn.
Speaker 3: It shakes the whole place. Aleck drops to the floor,
Speaker 3: was covering his ears and starts crying, breaking out, which understandable.
Speaker 3: It shook the whole place. From what Paul said, it
Speaker 3: startled him, gave that reflex feeling in his feet. So
Speaker 3: he set that lanner down before he dropped it because
Speaker 3: he almost spilled the kerosene, and set it down real
Speaker 3: quick to lit it. Moved it over and there was
Speaker 3: a hook for it that was in the corner if
Speaker 3: you're facing the door, would be the left hand corner
Speaker 3: up about three feet out from either wall. He hugging
Speaker 3: up on the hook just to illuminate that area. Had
Speaker 3: the one in the kitchen, had Alec get back over
Speaker 3: behind him, and he had that smaller the buttstock, the
Speaker 3: one that was shortened for his grandpa next to him
Speaker 3: on the counter, and he had his and he was
Speaker 3: standing there with Alec behind him by this cupboard because
Speaker 3: again this bang shook the whole place. As he's sitting there,
Speaker 3: it goes dead quiet, and it's quiet for a long time.
Speaker 3: Alec has calmed down at this point because it's been
Speaker 3: quiet for well over forty five minutes, probably over an hour.
Speaker 3: Alec said, Dad, I'm hungry, so that changes his focus.
Speaker 3: He sets the rifle down, dishes up his son, and
Speaker 3: dishes himself up. And what he did was he drug
Speaker 3: two of the chairs back into the kitchen, back into
Speaker 3: that little corner so they could sit right in front
Speaker 3: of each other. Alec could feel safe, and they were
Speaker 3: away from the door in the windows right. So it
Speaker 3: goes on for quite a while. So what he does
Speaker 3: is the sleeping gear. There's a cot by that kitchen
Speaker 3: table between that window and where that lamp is hanging
Speaker 3: to the left hand side of the door. There's a
Speaker 3: cot there, and there's another one opposite of it. But
Speaker 3: there's a woodstove in that corner, and then the cot
Speaker 3: and then the drip stove and then the kitchen. He
Speaker 3: wasn't going to be in any one of those cots
Speaker 3: because they're right near the windows. The head of it
Speaker 3: ends at the windows. So he drags the stuff into
Speaker 3: the floor in that kitchen area in the back of
Speaker 3: the cabin to where they felt more safe. There was
Speaker 3: more distance between the door and the windows. He got
Speaker 3: all that set up, got Alec to sleep after eating
Speaker 3: and stuff, because again get quiet. He had killed the
Speaker 3: lamp over in the corner near the door, basically had
Speaker 3: the one dimmed down up on the counter behind him,
Speaker 3: and he was sitting up still with his back against
Speaker 3: the cupboards. Oh, looking watching, he said. He dozed off
Speaker 3: at some point and he woke up to another boom,
Speaker 3: shook the whole place, made Alex scream and start crying.
Speaker 3: Paul me it was like hush, I should have quiet.
Speaker 3: And then another one boom, and it was going around
Speaker 3: the cabin. Boom just went all the way around, banged
Speaker 3: on the door once as well, made a full complete circle.
Speaker 3: Right when it came around to the right hand side,
Speaker 3: he thought for sure it was going to break the window,
Speaker 3: because it hit real hard right underneath that window, and
Speaker 3: it sounded like a pressure fracture in the window. He
Speaker 3: didn't know if it was coming through or not, so
Speaker 3: he had the rifle pointed there and it just continued
Speaker 3: working around back up to behind them and then stopped.
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, his son sobbing, he said, not
Speaker 3: that much time they passed it did it again, but
Speaker 3: the opposite way, ma'am. And when it hit near that
Speaker 3: window again, it sounded again like that window was fracturing.
Speaker 3: He was concerned about that. He didn't want no openings
Speaker 3: out there, even though it was a window and it
Speaker 3: could easily come through regardless. So after it did that
Speaker 3: a couple of different times over the course of a
Speaker 3: few hours, he's not sure exactly because he wasn't watching
Speaker 3: her clock, and he was worried about what am I
Speaker 3: going to do to keep my son safe? But it
Speaker 3: was like every time his son was just calming down
Speaker 3: from the time before, or do it again, and it
Speaker 3: was always opposite. It'd go one direction one time, then
Speaker 3: the other direction the next to it. So finally Paul
Speaker 3: got sick and tired of being sick and tired of
Speaker 3: being scared. It sounded like the double pain, which was
Speaker 3: all handset back then. It wasn't like they bought the
Speaker 3: window that way. The panes of glass were brought up
Speaker 3: and then glazed in by one of his elders and
Speaker 3: glazed him in itself. A family member did, and it
Speaker 3: was double pain, but it wasn't all that. It wasn't
Speaker 3: like modern type shit. He decides he's going to check
Speaker 3: that window when the sun is calm, so he relights
Speaker 3: the lantern up in the corner up in the left
Speaker 3: by the door, gets that going, gets the other one
Speaker 3: nice and bright in the kitchen counter, so he has
Speaker 3: plenty of light. He has Alex sitting up back against
Speaker 3: the cabinets and just being quiet, and so he goes
Speaker 3: over and he's holding the rifle with one arm and
Speaker 3: he pulls the covering to look out, and of course
Speaker 3: everything's mirrored right because it's dark out at this point.
Speaker 3: He pulls it back and he doesn't see any cracking
Speaker 3: in the glass itself, so he assumed the noises he
Speaker 3: was hearing is the separation of the glazing or however
Speaker 3: was made. So it's okay, the glass is still in
Speaker 3: tact kind of thing. There's nothing I can do about
Speaker 3: it now. He just lets go of this particular curtain.
Speaker 3: He doesn't push it back into the casing to fully
Speaker 3: seal off anything. So as he gets back over and
Speaker 3: he sits down, there's a little bit of a draft
Speaker 3: coming from the side where Alec was on, and that
Speaker 3: was due to the sink. They had a drain hole
Speaker 3: that happened to be right behind where Alex's sleeping bags were,
Speaker 3: so he was catching a little bit of a draft
Speaker 3: from the covered door would and shut all the way
Speaker 3: and a little bit of a draft was coming out.
Speaker 3: So Paul switched spots with him right just so happened
Speaker 3: when he shifted over. He looks over at that window.
Speaker 3: The way the curtains fell, there was a gap. There
Speaker 3: was a gap between the casing and the curtain. With
Speaker 3: the light. There was no mirroring effect with the lantern
Speaker 3: where he moved it behind him over his head. The
Speaker 3: lantern was casting light and he saw eye shine, just
Speaker 3: a single eye. It startled him and he raised the
Speaker 3: rifle and then all of a sudden, eyeshine was gone.
Speaker 3: Freaked him out. It was red eyeshine. It was real big.
Speaker 3: So he jumps up, goes and pushes it back into place,
Speaker 3: and as he pushes it back into where it needed
Speaker 3: to be to fully seal out anything looking in, bam,
Speaker 3: it hit right outside the wall, right next to the windows.
Speaker 3: Scared the everleven shit out of him. Of course, when
Speaker 3: that happened, he just out of reflex jumped back right.
Speaker 3: There is this drip stove as well. He just shoots
Speaker 3: through the wall right there and it all happened real fast.
Speaker 3: It was just reflex. Bam shoots through the wall. Alex
Speaker 3: screams because gunshot in the middle of this cabin that
Speaker 3: ain't all that big, and startled the hell of him
Speaker 3: because he wasn't expecting yet. The bang already had him
Speaker 3: tense up. But then his dad's shooting you really set
Speaker 3: it off. And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these messages. So once his
Speaker 3: son screams and he runs back over to him, says,
Speaker 3: calm down, they hear a scream from outside. The scream
Speaker 3: outside was exactly Alex creed exactly, just much louder, and
Speaker 3: it continued. It was like Nat got Alec to be
Speaker 3: quiet and listen because this thing is imitating the scream
Speaker 3: he just let out. Moving around the cabin, screamed over
Speaker 3: here like it was doing, but not pounding this time,
Speaker 3: but doing his scream, which was way more scarier than pounding,
Speaker 3: because it sounded just like him, just louder. Freaked him out.
Speaker 3: Got quiet after a while. From what Paul said, it
Speaker 3: stayed quiet for a good long time to where Alec
Speaker 3: fell asleep and he dozed off again, leaning against the cupboard.
Speaker 3: He was jolted away by Alex saying, Dad, real loud
Speaker 3: right because he was sleeping hard. It was wiped out
Speaker 3: his sun basical clean his ear yelling it startled him.
Speaker 3: He jumped up. Whoa Alex says, I think it's morning.
Speaker 3: I don't hear him. He goes, you don't hear them.
Speaker 3: We couldn't hear him before except when they're banging. He goes, No,
Speaker 3: they wanted me to come out and play, they said.
Speaker 3: When he said all night they kept asking me come
Speaker 3: out and play. That streaked Paul out. He said, look, son,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? He goes, they would ask
Speaker 3: me to come out and play. He didn't drill him
Speaker 3: too hard about it. Said how are they telling you that?
Speaker 3: And he goes, I would hear it in my head.
Speaker 3: They were telling me come out and play. I thought
Speaker 3: you heard him Dad. You didn't say nothing, so I
Speaker 3: didn't say nothing. Paul was taken back by that. He
Speaker 3: got up. He looks around, pulls a curtain. It's daylight
Speaker 3: enough to where he could look out and see there
Speaker 3: was nothing out there. Once he waited a while, fall
Speaker 3: obvious movement out or whatever, he teld the son stay
Speaker 3: right here, don't shoot dad. I'm gonna cry the nails
Speaker 3: out of the way and go outside and see if
Speaker 3: you know they're gone. So he prised the nails and everything.
Speaker 3: He said. It took a lot of courage to unlock
Speaker 3: that dead bolt and go out because there was no
Speaker 3: window on that side. For all he knew, it could
Speaker 3: have been standing right out the door. He unlocks, opens
Speaker 3: the door with the rifle ready. Nothing looks around, goes
Speaker 3: out the one side, looks down towards the back. Nothing
Speaker 3: same thing. The air, he said, was a lot different.
Speaker 3: There was no heaviness in the air. So he came
Speaker 3: back in, shut and locked the dead Bowlt started making
Speaker 3: breakfast stuff, pulled his son to keep an eye out,
Speaker 3: let him know if they say anything else, because he
Speaker 3: didn't know how to address it with a sign about
Speaker 3: this mind speaking, but didn't want to freak him out,
Speaker 3: just kept it without no pressure on it, so to speak.
Speaker 3: So they did their thing. They get did the breakfast
Speaker 3: stuff because Alec was hungry. As soon as it was
Speaker 3: full on daylight, not twilight of the morning. Paul made
Speaker 3: sure that the drip stove valve was shut off. All
Speaker 3: the kerosene landers were off. Everything safety wise that could
Speaker 3: cause a fire was shut off. Did one more couple
Speaker 3: rounds around the cabin, making sure there was obvious signs
Speaker 3: of these things, and he got Alec and they got
Speaker 3: out of there, hike back down to where the skiff was,
Speaker 3: they got out of there. He heard of one other
Speaker 3: instance at that cabin after that, with one of his
Speaker 3: younger female cousins, which was like ten years younger. She
Speaker 3: was an adult, but her daughter had a situation of
Speaker 3: them asking them to come out and play because he
Speaker 3: told his family, Hey, the bushman was banging and all
Speaker 3: this kind of stuff, so everyone was aware. He asked
Speaker 3: about anything prior that may have happened, but there's so
Speaker 3: much heavy superstition about even speaking about it. He was
Speaker 3: told to shut up, don't even bring it up. So
Speaker 3: he took that as yeah, there was, but no one's
Speaker 3: going to say anything, right. I want to thank Paul
Speaker 3: for sharing Alec. When I spoke to him, there wasn't
Speaker 3: a whole lot he could add because of the time.
Speaker 3: He remembers clearly the times that it was banging real hard.
Speaker 3: He at his age a little older than me, it
Speaker 3: still choked him up. Seeing the fear in his dad's
Speaker 3: eye because he saw his dad as he man, what
Speaker 3: kid doesn't he said, What scared him the most is
Speaker 3: seeing his dad scared. Seeing his dad scared made him
Speaker 3: more scared than seeing it peeking in the window or
Speaker 3: initially seeing it outside. I wanted to share with you
Speaker 3: today comes from We'll name him Samuel. Now Samuel. Back
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty nine, he got a job at Red
Speaker 3: Double Mind. Now that's on the cusco Quinn River, just
Speaker 3: up around the bend from sleep Mute. Samuel young guy
Speaker 3: at the time. He was hired on as basically a
Speaker 3: type of rust about. He would run a skiff back
Speaker 3: and forth from the mine over to sleep Mute, picking
Speaker 3: up supplies or whatever. He enjoyed it. He enjoyed the job.
Speaker 3: This one morning he was driving the skiff. He was
Speaker 3: heading down to sleep Mute when he off to his
Speaker 3: right hand side, just before the bind of the river.
Speaker 3: He could have swore he saw a Saint Bernard. The
Speaker 3: coloring of it, he was like someone lost their dog.
Speaker 3: So he cuts into the bank to see if the
Speaker 3: dog was accompanied by anybody. As he gets in there,
Speaker 3: he breaks through the brush and there's a little bit
Speaker 3: of an opening it's about seventy five feet. He sees
Speaker 3: movement the same coloring, and he's calling out for this
Speaker 3: dog hair, Doggy, here, doggie. It stops in the brush,
Speaker 3: but it's not coming to him. So he goes, ah,
Speaker 3: I got jerky in the boat. I'm gonna go grab it.
Speaker 3: So he runs over grabs a jerky. When he comes back,
Speaker 3: he doesn't see it. So he goes closer to the
Speaker 3: brush and he's right up in the alders and stuff.
Speaker 3: He's got this jerky here, puppy here. No, it's gonna
Speaker 3: hurt you. No, it's gonna hurt you. Leaning in, he
Speaker 3: could see the hair in the movement because it was
Speaker 3: such a mangle of the alders. It's like spaghetti, he said.
Speaker 3: As he was sitting there, he's holding this piece of
Speaker 3: jerky out. He's looking around, looking through, and he's come on,
Speaker 3: here you go, doggie, here you go. As he's looking through,
Speaker 3: he notices eyes looking at him, and they weren't dog's eyes,
Speaker 3: ashen gray face like that Saint Bernard Red as he
Speaker 3: called it, blatnose looked relatively young looking in the face,
Speaker 3: had a few wrinkles but not a lot. Eyes were
Speaker 3: pitch black, according to what he said, very beady looking.
Speaker 3: He's been shocked, trying to recognize what the hell he's seeing, right,
Speaker 3: because the inside, what the hell is this? And this
Speaker 3: is all happening really fast. It's taking me far longer
Speaker 3: to explain it to you. So as he's holding out
Speaker 3: this piece of jerky, just as he was recognizing it
Speaker 3: wasn't a dog, a hand snatches that jerky out of
Speaker 3: his hand. He stands up, drops the bag, he falls backwards,
Speaker 3: dropped his rifle. This thing stands up in the brush.
Speaker 3: Now he guest made it at that time. It was
Speaker 3: early season. The alders they're about eight foot, and this
Speaker 3: thing was at least head and shoulders above that looking
Speaker 3: down at him. Pushed the brush, reached down, grabbed the
Speaker 3: rest of the bag of the jerky, and he's just
Speaker 3: on the ground looking up at this thing. He's trying
Speaker 3: to figure out exactly what he's looking at, because up
Speaker 3: until that point he saw a blip of the Patty
Speaker 3: footage from the Patterson Gimlin stuff at the beginning of
Speaker 3: some movie. It was a short news real blip or something.
Speaker 3: He just didn't really pay attention to it. He thought
Speaker 3: it was an upcoming movie. Being a shocked, he jumps up.
Speaker 3: He grabs his rifle as this thing's just standing there
Speaker 3: looking at him, and he takes off, running back to
Speaker 3: the skiff. He hops in rips back to sleep moot.
Speaker 3: When he gets there, he was there to meet up
Speaker 3: with a foreman he was picking up that was there
Speaker 3: waiting on him with some supplies and stuff. So he
Speaker 3: gets over there. The foreman gets on, he's helping all
Speaker 3: this stuff up and the forms of a year pale
Speaker 3: as hell. Are you okay? What's going on? He didn't
Speaker 3: know what to say. Samuel said he was at a
Speaker 3: loss for words. He couldn't articulate what he was dealing with.
Speaker 3: Said he was hyper emotional. He just started sobbing a
Speaker 3: little bit. The guy left him alone about it. He said, hey,
Speaker 3: if you want to let me know, he can let
Speaker 3: me know. So on the way back, he tried to
Speaker 3: go to the farthest side of the river to avoid
Speaker 3: being near that section, but he knew it was on
Speaker 3: the same side of the river as camp, and it
Speaker 3: was nervous about that, he said. When they got back
Speaker 3: to camp, the fore men talked to some other guys,
Speaker 3: and one of the guys he talked to happened to
Speaker 3: be one of Samuel's buddies, another roster about, and he
Speaker 3: comes over. I was trying to engage him here you
Speaker 3: are right before, mean was saying you weren't looking too
Speaker 3: good and you're pale. Man, what's going on? So he
Speaker 3: pulls the guy's side, breaks down what happened? Right? The
Speaker 3: guy he'd pulled aside that he thought was a friend
Speaker 3: of his, started rasing him pretty hard. Oh, geez, man,
Speaker 3: you need to sleep more. You better hope they don't
Speaker 3: do drug testing stuff like this, which really it was
Speaker 3: a bad thing to do. So a little while goes on,
Speaker 3: Samuel leaves that job. He leaves it right on good terms.
Speaker 3: But he had to leave. So skip forward. This mine
Speaker 3: was only open from sixty nine to seventy one. He
Speaker 3: came back towards the latter part to do some I
Speaker 3: believe they were closing something down. There was a process
Speaker 3: going on, and so he was back. Now when he
Speaker 3: came back, he immediately thought that encounter he had at
Speaker 3: the time, everyone was real quiet, far different than when
Speaker 3: he was initially there. One of the guys he recognized
Speaker 3: from his time there before. I called him on and
Speaker 3: we said, hey, why the solemn is because everyone's losing
Speaker 3: their job, and he was like, no, there was just
Speaker 3: some strange stuff. A couple of those guys over there.
Speaker 3: It dealt with down around the bend here. They went
Speaker 3: for a hike a little while back, and they won't
Speaker 3: talk about it or whatever, right, So Samuel says, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: goes over and talks to them. So he talks to
Speaker 3: these two guys and they're like, hey, we saw stuff too.
Speaker 3: We'll go with you. Let's go look around. So they
Speaker 3: take the boat on their off time and they go
Speaker 3: back over to this They go up in there. As
Speaker 3: they get to that clearing, it's different now because it
Speaker 3: changes little bits every year. Samuel and these two guys
Speaker 3: they get back up in there, and one of the
Speaker 3: guys felt like they were wasting their time. They had
Speaker 3: cut across. He had showed them what happened to him.
Speaker 3: The guys said, hey, we saw him over here and
Speaker 3: somewhere between where they saw him very near the encounter
Speaker 3: location for Samuel. They stopped somewhere in the middle, and
Speaker 3: one of the guys that was like, I can't be
Speaker 3: sure exactly what I saw. So he starts reeling and
Speaker 3: backtracking on what he saw, he took off his backpack
Speaker 3: and leaned it up against by the brush. As he
Speaker 3: was sitting down, Samuel and the other guy were over
Speaker 3: in the clearing more in front of him, and he
Speaker 3: stands up and walks towards them to get in the conversation,
Speaker 3: and they're all three talking or whatever, and Samuel said
Speaker 3: they heard some weird chirping and so it drew their
Speaker 3: attention further up the mountain in front of them, off
Speaker 3: to their right, so they're all looking over this way.
Speaker 3: The guy who had set his backpack down right near
Speaker 3: the brush walked over to him, turned around and said, hey,
Speaker 3: where'd you put my backpack? And they're all like, we've
Speaker 3: been right here in front of you, what are you
Speaker 3: talking about. Meanwhile, that whistling is still going on. So
Speaker 3: Samueline is the guy next to him. They're making sure
Speaker 3: they got rounds in their rifles right, And the guy
Speaker 3: was like, this ain't funny. What'd you guys do with
Speaker 3: my backpack? And the guy it wasn't registering that no
Speaker 3: one took his pack, at least not Samuel or the
Speaker 3: other guy. So he goes back over and he's looking
Speaker 3: in the brush to see if maybe he pushed a
Speaker 3: little further than when he stood up, maybe the brush
Speaker 3: closed over it or something. He was trying to figure
Speaker 3: it out. He was struggling to figure it out. He
Speaker 3: gets back over the brush. Nothing, he ain't seeing nothing
Speaker 3: or anything like that. All of a sudden he hears
Speaker 3: one of those strange whistles back behind the brush where
Speaker 3: he can't see, so he backs away. As he's backing away,
Speaker 3: he gets to a point, and at this point Samuel
Speaker 3: and the other guy they see what he can't, and
Speaker 3: they their rifles. Samuel said it appeared to be a
Speaker 3: much larger one standing there looking rocking his head back
Speaker 3: and forth. The way the light was it was silhouetted,
Speaker 3: so they couldn't make out any facial features, but they
Speaker 3: could tell it was big. The guy backing away from
Speaker 3: the brush gets a peek and gets startled holy crap,
Speaker 3: and turns around starts running back towards his two buddies
Speaker 3: where you know, Samuel and the other guy. As he does,
Speaker 3: his backpack comes flying and lands past them into the
Speaker 3: opening of his clearing right. He turns around and he
Speaker 3: looks again, and the loud whistles and screams and whoops
Speaker 3: started from a couple different directions, freaked them all out.
Speaker 3: No one shot. They just retreated back to the skiff.
Speaker 3: One of the guys that tied off the skiff because
Speaker 3: Samuel was running the motor. When he pulled up to
Speaker 3: the bank, one of the guys tied an impossible knot.
Speaker 3: He just wasn't well versed. It was a good knot,
Speaker 3: but not for what they needed. When they were sitting
Speaker 3: there trying to figure out what to do and try
Speaker 3: not to either not, they heard the whistles getting closer,
Speaker 3: and they heard movement and brush and Samuel just cut
Speaker 3: that line. They just cut it. They dropped it in there,
Speaker 3: He fired up to outboard. They took off and went
Speaker 3: to sleep mute. Now when they were in sleep, newt
Speaker 3: they were, holy crap, who do we tell about this?
Speaker 3: We got to report this? And Samuel said, all I
Speaker 3: got was ridicule last time I tried. So they went
Speaker 3: and tried to find one of the guys. There was
Speaker 3: a native guy that worked around the camp or whatever
Speaker 3: to ask his advice. They couldn't find him anywhere right,
Speaker 3: So they ended up handling what they had to handle
Speaker 3: and took off back to camp again. They skirted way around,
Speaker 3: so when they got back to camp, they went and
Speaker 3: talked to whoever was in charge at that time, and
Speaker 3: was asking the guy, Hey, what do we do about
Speaker 3: reporting some crazy stuff right down the way here less
Speaker 3: than a mile maybe a mile away, And the guy
Speaker 3: told him, you don't report to no one. We're in
Speaker 3: the process of closing down. It is what it is.
Speaker 3: What I don't even want to hear about it. You
Speaker 3: guys will get reprimanded and drug tested or something if
Speaker 3: you guys continue on. It was real weird for Samuel.
Speaker 3: He was like, where's our safety at in this? He
Speaker 3: was riled, thrown off by the whole ordeal. The rest
Speaker 3: of the time he was there, there wasn't much. They
Speaker 3: heard a couple of whoops. That was the extent of it.
Speaker 3: I want to thank Samuel one for being patient. It
Speaker 3: gets busy and it gets hard to get back to everybody.
Speaker 3: I'll catch up with y'all on the next one.
Speaker 4: They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be open.
Speaker 4: Joy this chard, that chart, everything calling r ring back
Speaker 4: joy for me, Joy staying right, you come it right away.
Speaker 2: Still still sat stas state passes states, things used these
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