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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the or over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Happen? What

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>quice you better New York. Hello, get somebody out here.

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<v Speaker 3>What quen on out there?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of a bit of about sixty forty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know easy out there? Yeah, I'm wuking right head.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hey, Grittings is read Alaska text. You're joining me today.

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<v Speaker 3>What I want to share with you comes from Paul

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<v Speaker 3>and his son. Paul is approaching eighty. His son is

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<v Speaker 3>a little older than me. Actually, I believe his son

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<v Speaker 3>is fifty two. Now. Paul is an atta natives from

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<v Speaker 3>the Copper River area. He has relatives in Saltia. This

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<v Speaker 3>particular instance happened near the Salta River. Family used to

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<v Speaker 3>have a cabin up that way off of a little

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<v Speaker 3>small tributary, couldn't really call it a river, but a

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<v Speaker 3>tributary to the Saltia which is a glorified creek. This

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<v Speaker 3>particular instance happened back when his son, who's fifty two now,

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<v Speaker 3>is approximately ten years old. It was a family cabin

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<v Speaker 3>before the elder owner of it got rid of it.

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<v Speaker 3>What ended up happening is Paul goes up with the sun.

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<v Speaker 3>They were doing some fishing and potentially get a moose.

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<v Speaker 3>For Paul, it was more spending time with the sun

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<v Speaker 3>than anything. He wasn't really concerned with necessarily tagging a moose,

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<v Speaker 3>even though that would have been great. It wasn't the

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<v Speaker 3>overall driving force. It's more get time of the sun outdoors.

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<v Speaker 3>They plan on being up there two weeks. They were

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<v Speaker 3>a little over week into the trip. Things were getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready to wind down in the next few days, so

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<v Speaker 3>the emphasis on hunting really stepped up right out behind

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<v Speaker 3>the cabin. Further up this glorified creek was a meadow

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<v Speaker 3>where they had some beaver ponds and muskeg that fed

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<v Speaker 3>this particular creek. He knew moose hung out there and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>so that was always in his back pocket. It was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I got my trump cart over here, I'll take the

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<v Speaker 3>boy out there once things get moving along or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And he spent some quality time with them, teaching them

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<v Speaker 3>how to split wood and start a fire, just basic stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>The morning they were going out there, his son was

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<v Speaker 3>carrying his grandpa's thirty out six, which the stock had

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<v Speaker 3>been cut down a little bit because his grandpa was

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<v Speaker 3>a little dude, so it was good kit sized by

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<v Speaker 3>very powerful. He wanted his son to have a little

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<v Speaker 3>something to knock the moose down with. Paul had a

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<v Speaker 3>thirty out six as well. So they go back and

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<v Speaker 3>they follow this creek all the way back. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of miles to where you get to this

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<v Speaker 3>muske in this open meadow with the beaver pond and

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<v Speaker 3>some other stuff. He said. Once they got up there

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<v Speaker 3>and they cleared the tree line, it opened up more

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<v Speaker 3>into the tundra type stuff. You could see the mounds

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<v Speaker 3>off in the background. There was the beginnings the foothills

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<v Speaker 3>of the mounds directly in front of them, on the

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<v Speaker 3>far end of this Muskeg swamp, this marsh area. So

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<v Speaker 3>his plan was to circle around to the right and

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<v Speaker 3>get back past the beaver pond because this particular stretch

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<v Speaker 3>of tundra in marsh, back around the corner a little ways,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a little firmer ground and that's usually where

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<v Speaker 3>you find the moose. So he takes his boy, let's

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<v Speaker 3>call his boy Aleck. Okay, So Paul and Alick they

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<v Speaker 3>get across. There's a couple kind of mushy spots, just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like walking on a waterbed. But he gets

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<v Speaker 3>Aleck across their safely and everything, and they get back

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<v Speaker 3>and they're following along just inside the tree line where

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<v Speaker 3>the tree line meets up with the tundra and then

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<v Speaker 3>it goes off into the marsh off to the left.

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<v Speaker 3>They get back to where hooks around. As they're getting there, Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>here's a weird sound. Now this is in the wee

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<v Speaker 3>hours of the morning. It's in the fall, towards the

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<v Speaker 3>end of August. He hears what he thought was a

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<v Speaker 3>wolf pal which I mean shit. In the big scheme

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<v Speaker 3>of things, he really wasn't concerned if it was a

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<v Speaker 3>wolf or not, because they'd get a wolf if it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't a mossie. No big deal as far as he

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<v Speaker 3>was concerned. So he was like, just be aware. Alec

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<v Speaker 3>was a little intimidated by the wolf. Pal unslung the

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<v Speaker 3>rifle and was holding it, and he was like, calm down,

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<v Speaker 3>sluing that rifle. I'll let you know when you need

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<v Speaker 3>to get your gun ready. So as there just inside

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<v Speaker 3>the tree line, just a few paces, just to stay

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<v Speaker 3>out of the open you. Every once in a while

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<v Speaker 3>he would have Alex stan still and he would go

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<v Speaker 3>to the tree line and look and see if there's

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<v Speaker 3>any moose nearby or movement going on or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 3>as they work around the curses right a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a sock shape. Let's say you're going up

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<v Speaker 3>half of the sock, and then the back end would

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<v Speaker 3>be like the foot of the sock, and it hooked

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<v Speaker 3>off to the right a little bit. But that's the

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<v Speaker 3>shape of this marshy area. And so as they're going along,

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<v Speaker 3>he was just about at the apex when he came

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<v Speaker 3>out to look one last time and straight across what

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<v Speaker 3>it would be the toe area of the sock shaped

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<v Speaker 3>kind of meadow, he noticed something big and brown over there,

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<v Speaker 3>and instantly that's that moose. He thought, Wow, I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>if wolf Hack is after it, that'd be cool for

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<v Speaker 3>us to watch. So he saw that tuck back in

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<v Speaker 3>let Alec know his moose is up there. So they

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<v Speaker 3>continue on and they're cutting through the brush quietly so

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<v Speaker 3>they could come out of the tree line and be

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<v Speaker 3>not visible but have a good open view of this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and so his son could have a perfect shot right

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully broadside, and just a nice could kill shop. So

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<v Speaker 3>when they get up to the area where they can

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<v Speaker 3>more clearly see into the open as they're still behind

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<v Speaker 3>it in the tree line in a little ways, he's

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<v Speaker 3>looking to where he saw that brown spot, and he

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<v Speaker 3>notices this brown spot hadn't moved into the brush a

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<v Speaker 3>little more. It was a little more shaded, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was darker looking, but he could see it moving, but

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<v Speaker 3>the movement was different than he was accustomed to see

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<v Speaker 3>him from a moose. It was a lot more faster

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<v Speaker 3>movements back and forth, and a lot more kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a bobbing type of motion. But again it was obscured

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<v Speaker 3>because of the shadowing and stuff. He couldn't fully make

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<v Speaker 3>it out. So they get a little closer, and they

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<v Speaker 3>moved down a little ways because of the way the

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<v Speaker 3>wind was blowing. He didn't want a scent picked up

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<v Speaker 3>and blowing around this area and potentially getting back to

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<v Speaker 3>the moose and startling it or whatever, so they moved

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<v Speaker 3>a little further down. When they repositioned and he got

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<v Speaker 3>Alex ready. Alex sat there and he was holding the rifle,

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<v Speaker 3>just waiting. Paul started making his moose call. The first

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<v Speaker 3>couple of calls he made, which they weren't just back

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<v Speaker 3>to back, you get time in between. That way, it

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<v Speaker 3>sounds natural. So he makes the first one, no attention

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<v Speaker 3>from this thing across the way, which he assumed it

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<v Speaker 3>was a bull moose. No attention given. Second call, this

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<v Speaker 3>thing moves inside the opposite tree line, which is about

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<v Speaker 3>seventy yards distance inside the tree line, moving and he figured, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the moose is moving around to try to look for

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<v Speaker 3>this cow. Call. So he waits a little while longer

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<v Speaker 3>and calls again. Meanwhile, in between the call, she repositioned

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<v Speaker 3>back to his left, staying in the tree line, but

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<v Speaker 3>give him more distance that he didn't want the bullmos

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<v Speaker 3>to come right out on him when if his son

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<v Speaker 3>missed the shot, potentially they get charged or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 3>he was trying to keep a safe distance for son

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<v Speaker 3>to get this shot. He said, when he made about

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth call, this thing came out of the trees

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<v Speaker 3>slowly and was looking back and forth, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a moose. Immediately he knew it was a bushman. Harry mate.

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<v Speaker 3>His son was just about to talk, and he covers

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<v Speaker 3>his mouth says, that's a bushman. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of here. We don't want nothing to do with.

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<v Speaker 3>As he had heard all the stories, he had seen

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<v Speaker 3>one a couple times in the past, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>never that close, and he just told us, stay quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>stay quiet, We're okay. And as he's talking to his son,

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<v Speaker 3>it comes out. Nick starts skirting the tree line back

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<v Speaker 3>in the direction he originally saw it, and the way

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<v Speaker 3>it was moving was bobbing down, standing up, moving back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth, smelling the air, just looking around and basically

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<v Speaker 3>doing what Paul had been doing before that, looking around

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<v Speaker 3>trying to find this move. So this thing was doing

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<v Speaker 3>the opposite, looking back in their direction, and finally it

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<v Speaker 3>got to a spot and it squatted down right in

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<v Speaker 3>front of some willows. This thing squatted down is looking

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<v Speaker 3>straight at Paul and his son. He locked onto him.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul said, he sensed it, knew they were over there.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just trying to figure out where and pinpointed me.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, it felt like he had us pinpointed, but

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't have a visual line of sight until he

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<v Speaker 3>got to that point, which again, at this point was

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<v Speaker 3>maybe eighty yards at the mom which in the big

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<v Speaker 3>scheme of things ain't that far. So when a squatted

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<v Speaker 3>down has got a lock on him, Paul stands up.

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<v Speaker 3>He's holding his rifle in his hands and he waves

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<v Speaker 3>them and goes, hey, we'll hunt somewhere else. We'll go

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<v Speaker 3>hunt somewhere else. This thing immediately turns and runs off

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<v Speaker 3>into the brush behind it. Here's crashing and thrashing as

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<v Speaker 3>it's moving off to their left on that opposite tree line,

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<v Speaker 3>back up in the trees going up this initial foothill

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<v Speaker 3>of the mountains behind there. Figures, great, it's getting away

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<v Speaker 3>from us. So he immediately gets Alec in front of

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<v Speaker 3>him as they're going back. Now on their way back,

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<v Speaker 3>they're coming up onto the beaver pond. Periodically, Paul would

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<v Speaker 3>hear noises he was trying out to be paranoid, but

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<v Speaker 3>it sounded like movement behind him with branches breaking periodically,

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<v Speaker 3>so he would stop, try not to scare Alex, because

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<v Speaker 3>Alec was already freaked out when he was a kid

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<v Speaker 3>seeing this stuff, and he was not feeling it. So

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<v Speaker 3>Paul was checking every once in a while. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the last time. He couldn't just pass it off. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just a coincidental noise because of how loud

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<v Speaker 3>it was. It was cracked, something obviously big was broken.

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<v Speaker 3>And he happened to look back and there was some

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<v Speaker 3>black spruce and stuff intermingled within this tree line, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was mainly black spruce, some willows, and then there

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<v Speaker 3>was aspen here and there not very many in some alders.

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<v Speaker 3>It was more black spruce than anything, so you'd have

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<v Speaker 3>willow obscuring the lower ground and then the black spruce intermix.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, when he looked back to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what the noise was because it was so loud, he

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<v Speaker 3>saw basically a hand letting go of a black spruce

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<v Speaker 3>that had been broken in half. Just as he looked

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<v Speaker 3>back because of the loud noise, because he turned around

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<v Speaker 3>real fast, he saw a hand, this thing's hand. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>which probably wasn't very solid at all, but there wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>When they got across there and they were on more

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<v Speaker 3>this thing squatted down sniffing, Paul again waves his arm

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<v Speaker 3>with his rifle. Hey, we're going to hunt elsewhere. Let

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<v Speaker 3>us be. We leave you be, no harm, leave us

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<v Speaker 3>alone kind of thing. This thing just ignored what he

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<v Speaker 3>down on all fours. He said, imagine if a man

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<v Speaker 3>around on his tippy toes in his hands that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it looked like from his perspective, how it was moving

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<v Speaker 3>around and stuff. He said, the movements were real, sporadic.

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<v Speaker 3>They would lower down, sniffing, and then it would arch up,

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<v Speaker 3>a circle. This is all happening. Wait faster. Its movements

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<v Speaker 3>were real, sporadic and fast away. It was sniffing and

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<v Speaker 3>again threaked him out. So he telled Alex, you keep

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<v Speaker 3>walking forward, but you stop. Once you get fully off

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<v Speaker 3>of the marshy spot, you stop. So Alex is doing

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<v Speaker 3>that while Paul is watching, and he has the rifle

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<v Speaker 3>at a little ready at this point. He doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to have to shoot at to say so. After this

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<v Speaker 3>thing stops, braddick spinning around and sniffing and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>it moved back off into the trees. So that's when

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<v Speaker 3>Paul turned and caught up with the sun. In the

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<v Speaker 3>brief distance, I'm not even thirty feet to catch up

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<v Speaker 3>to where his sun was, he was trotting. He was

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<v Speaker 3>as quickly as he could in boots on the tundrus

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as he catches up to the son, he

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<v Speaker 3>hears the water smacking sound and looks back and this

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<v Speaker 3>thing is bee lining straight towards them and is basically

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<v Speaker 3>almost where Paul was when and he turned just a

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<v Speaker 3>It was moving fast, so Paul raises his rifle and

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<v Speaker 3>lets to round go bay Am. He said, this thing

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<v Speaker 3>hit the dirt hard, tumbled over, not fully stood up,

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<v Speaker 3>heading away from him, and he took back off into

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was going to continue coming. He said. He

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<v Speaker 3>was past adrenaline pumping and stuff. So once this thing

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<v Speaker 3>runs off, he again turns his attention to get the

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<v Speaker 3>hell out of there. He just shot this thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted no part of the potential after math of that.

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<v Speaker 3>They only had about maybe fifty ish feet before the

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<v Speaker 3>other tree line started where they followed the creek back

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<v Speaker 3>down to the cabin. Once he got to that tree line,

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<v Speaker 3>he was constantly looking over his shoulder. How he missed

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<v Speaker 3>this thing, how quickly it moved, he doesn't know. But

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<v Speaker 3>by time they got over there, he was here and cracking.

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<v Speaker 3>As he looks back and turns around and looks, this

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<v Speaker 3>thing is tearing apart that beaver lodge. It ran into

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<v Speaker 3>the trees. He turned around. They're trying to get back

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<v Speaker 3>to their back trail to get back to the cabin.

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<v Speaker 3>In that brief fifty feet if that whatever it was

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<v Speaker 3>with him looking back, he never heard it or nose

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<v Speaker 3>hit until the cracking and thrashing that it was making.

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<v Speaker 3>So when it turned around and looked and it's tearing

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<v Speaker 3>apart this beaver lodge, and stay tuned for more sasquatch

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<v Speaker 3>out to see. We'll be right back after the east messages.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, shit was flying. He said it was throwing

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<v Speaker 3>an everlove and fit, just like one handful after another,

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<v Speaker 3>just ripping this thing apart. He said he could see

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<v Speaker 3>the marsh ripple in from this thing's body weight. He

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<v Speaker 3>was like stuffed for a second. Alex started crying. That

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<v Speaker 3>snapped him out of it here in the sun cry

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<v Speaker 3>because he was watching this display of awesome power just

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<v Speaker 3>tearing this thing apart. So boom, he refocuses and they

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<v Speaker 3>get down going down the trail. Now, this particular trail

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<v Speaker 3>is a game trail, but it was also used by

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<v Speaker 3>him and other family members over the year, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty well beaten pass. Depending time of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>the brush was closer in or further back. As they

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<v Speaker 3>were going back down, he said that they got maybe

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred yards down when he started hearing breaking and noises.

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<v Speaker 3>At the head of the trail. It meets up with

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<v Speaker 3>that marshary, So he turns around and he's got his

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<v Speaker 3>gun up. He's trying to figure out if it's coming

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<v Speaker 3>after him or if it's just an echoing or something

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<v Speaker 3>else going on in other than what he was fearing

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<v Speaker 3>that it was following them. He heard some noises and

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<v Speaker 3>it went quiet, so he decided to come on, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Turned around. Alec kept going. He kept going. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>every about twenty five thirty yards he would have to

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<v Speaker 3>stop because there was a new noise, and it always

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<v Speaker 3>stayed a certain distance behind him. As they were moving along,

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<v Speaker 3>he got the feeling that he was being watched. As

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<v Speaker 3>he's looking up the trail, he got the feeling is

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<v Speaker 3>being watched from behind him, which Alec was standing right

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<v Speaker 3>behind him like on his hip. So when he turned

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<v Speaker 3>around to look further down the trail, it was hard

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<v Speaker 3>to see it was obscured, but he saw a dark

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<v Speaker 3>figure move out of view right. He said, the hair

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<v Speaker 3>stood up real hard, like wirely bristols all over his body,

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<v Speaker 3>and he told Alec to grab onto his belt. So

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<v Speaker 3>Alec grabbed a hold of his belt. He said, do

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<v Speaker 3>you hold onto my belt tight? He said, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>trot and run beside Dad, you just hold on. So

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<v Speaker 3>Paul is basically half running. Alec is holding his belt

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<v Speaker 3>hanging on as Paul's pulling him along, and he's going

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<v Speaker 3>straight forwards where this thing induct and his reasoning was

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<v Speaker 3>is he was going to basically bluff charge this thing

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully moving so they could get past it, because

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't want anything blocking him from potentially getting to

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<v Speaker 3>the cabin for safety and having some barriers up. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>he was going along and as he was approaching that area,

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<v Speaker 3>he saw this thing moving off to his lap, just

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<v Speaker 3>straight away from the trail perpendicular to Joe, just straight away,

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<v Speaker 3>not circling around like flank or anything. So that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of gave him a calm feelings. They got past that

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<v Speaker 3>spot and then he stopped and turned back and was

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<v Speaker 3>holding the rifle, trying to assess and listen for sound

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<v Speaker 3>and everything, and the one that was between him and

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<v Speaker 3>the cabin that really startled him had run straight away

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<v Speaker 3>from the trail where he had stopped to turn and look.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a little bit of an alley way between

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<v Speaker 3>the trees where he could see the direction this thing

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<v Speaker 3>had gone. Sure enough, this thing was standing there, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was at a distance, and it was just obscured

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<v Speaker 3>by some black spruce and of course the willows. It

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<v Speaker 3>was there, but it was further away. So turned again,

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<v Speaker 3>pulled out a cold on, and he kept doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>He heard noises a couple more times, but it faded

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<v Speaker 3>off and stopped the closer they got to the cabin,

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<v Speaker 3>which was again a couple of miles distant. So because

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<v Speaker 3>there was enough distance between the last sighting and the

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<v Speaker 3>last noises, he felt a little more comfortable. So what

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<v Speaker 3>he did was he didn't want them basically following them

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<v Speaker 3>back to the cabin. He didn't know what to do

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<v Speaker 3>though to prevent that, because it's just one game. Trail

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<v Speaker 3>was like, duh, it doesn't take a rocket scientist followed

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<v Speaker 3>the trail. I'm sure if they're in the area, they've

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<v Speaker 3>seen this cabin before. You know what, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>figured okay. He got Alec inside, looked around and there

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<v Speaker 3>was two windows, one on each side, and they were

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<v Speaker 3>about three foot square something like that. On either side.

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<v Speaker 3>It had an old oil drip stove and also a

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<v Speaker 3>woodburning stove. It had been decked out over the years

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<v Speaker 3>some amenities and some creature comforts as far as what

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<v Speaker 3>was available. Especially getting it up river is as his nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets Alex situated, tells him, hey, if anything other

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<v Speaker 3>than me comes through the door, you shoot it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to be right back, and he grabs some of

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<v Speaker 3>this clorox and he goes basically about fifty yards up

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<v Speaker 3>to trail and is just whipping this clorox back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth all over the place, trying to mask their scent. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the only thing he could think of at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and he said, looking back on it, it

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<v Speaker 3>was pointless because it didn't work, but he was trying.

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<v Speaker 3>So he does all that. He empties it out basically

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<v Speaker 3>by time he gets back to cabin, drops it on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground and runs back inside. Didn't hear anything. It

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<v Speaker 3>was dead quiet. Now. All this started at the wee

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<v Speaker 3>hours of the morning, and they were back home start

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<v Speaker 3>to finish within four hours five hours, because it took

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<v Speaker 3>time with a little one dope hike up and get

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<v Speaker 3>across all this terrain, move slowly, quietly all that. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was roughly around noonish when they got back safely

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<v Speaker 3>in the cabin. Now Paul would regularly check the windows.

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<v Speaker 3>They would play card games and some other stuff keep

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<v Speaker 3>Alec his mind off of it. He's not a dumb kid.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd ask, what's going on, Dad? Is it out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime he was looking, and Alec kept saying, it's scary

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<v Speaker 3>looking that bushman scary. Finally he asked, Paul, is it

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<v Speaker 3>going to heat us? Paul was like, not if I

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<v Speaker 3>have anything to do with that. It had been a

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<v Speaker 3>while since any family members had been up there. But

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<v Speaker 3>there was curtin. Someone had taken an old military duffel

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<v Speaker 3>bag type of thing and they cut it open and

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<v Speaker 3>made a pretty good non sea through curtain right land

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<v Speaker 3>of the midnight sun type stuff. The way it was

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<v Speaker 3>nailed up into the window casing it blocked out all

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<v Speaker 3>the light. You just push it back in there and

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<v Speaker 3>it blocked it out. So as the day went on,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul decided, all right, now is a good time to

417
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<v Speaker 3>push these into place so nothing can watch us. He

418
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<v Speaker 3>does the one side so if he's inside the cabin

419
00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:25.599
<v Speaker 3>looking at the front door. He did the one off

420
00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:28.599
<v Speaker 3>to the right first, which was the one that was

421
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<v Speaker 3>closest to this little glorified feet or creek. So he

422
00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.519
<v Speaker 3>goes over he does that one, and this was just

423
00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:37.359
<v Speaker 3>before dusk that he was doing this. As he's doing

424
00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:41.400
<v Speaker 3>that one, the light behind him from the other window

425
00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:44.680
<v Speaker 3>because they mirrored each other even on the wall their placement.

426
00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Because he was getting that one set, he saw a

427
00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.720
<v Speaker 3>shadow move in the light from the opposite window. So

428
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.799
<v Speaker 3>immediately he turns and he sees this thing slowly peeking

429
00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.599
<v Speaker 3>around looking in and his heart stopped. He's like, holy crap.

430
00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Before he could even say anything, Alex is standing up

431
00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:07.200
<v Speaker 3>and he had to tell him stop stop. Alex had

432
00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:10.240
<v Speaker 3>that rifle and was about to shoot this thing as

433
00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:12.559
<v Speaker 3>soon as he started yelling at Alek. Wassen moved out

434
00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:15.279
<v Speaker 3>of the view and Paul goes over and fixes the

435
00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:19.559
<v Speaker 3>makeshift curtain into place. As they're sitting there, Paul was

436
00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:22.240
<v Speaker 3>sitting there thinking, man, the dead bolt on that door,

437
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:24.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean much, so he was trying to think of

438
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:28.200
<v Speaker 3>what other detorts does he have, and so what he

439
00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 3>decided to do was take some nails. It was a

440
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:34.200
<v Speaker 3>hardwood door, so with the door shut, he nailed through

441
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.000
<v Speaker 3>the edge of it at a kind of like a

442
00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.079
<v Speaker 3>forty five degree angle kind of toe, nailing in three

443
00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:43.319
<v Speaker 3>separate spots above the dead bolt and then below the

444
00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:47.119
<v Speaker 3>dead bolt, just a little added measure of holding force,

445
00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:50.839
<v Speaker 3>which again it was spitballing. Obviously, these things are powerful

446
00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:53.400
<v Speaker 3>enough they would have been irrelevant. He fired up the

447
00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:55.960
<v Speaker 3>lanterns they had in there. Again, the place had been

448
00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:57.680
<v Speaker 3>heavily used over the years, so there was a lot

449
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<v Speaker 3>of little amenities. He lit the lanterns and start did

450
00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the drip stove to heat up dinner. Mom had sent

451
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.160
<v Speaker 3>them with pre made meals ready to go make it

452
00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:09.799
<v Speaker 3>easier for him dealing with the younger boy or whatever it.

453
00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Put whatever it was onto the pot to slowly warm up.

454
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:16.279
<v Speaker 3>He had that going warming up. He was just talking

455
00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:19.000
<v Speaker 3>regular stuff with the sun, trying to keep him calm

456
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.240
<v Speaker 3>because he could tell it was really freaking him out.

457
00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:25.119
<v Speaker 3>As the dinner was just getting done, one of the

458
00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 3>lamps with the wick was acting funny, so he had

459
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:31.319
<v Speaker 3>blown it out and was adjusting it and showing Alec

460
00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.640
<v Speaker 3>how to do it, just teach him some little distractions,

461
00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:39.440
<v Speaker 3>and as he's doing so, there's a huge hard thud. Damn.

462
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 3>It shakes the whole place. Aleck drops to the floor,

463
00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:46.839
<v Speaker 3>was covering his ears and starts crying, breaking out, which understandable.

464
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:49.920
<v Speaker 3>It shook the whole place. From what Paul said, it

465
00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:52.759
<v Speaker 3>startled him, gave that reflex feeling in his feet. So

466
00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:55.240
<v Speaker 3>he set that lanner down before he dropped it because

467
00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:57.759
<v Speaker 3>he almost spilled the kerosene, and set it down real

468
00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.599
<v Speaker 3>quick to lit it. Moved it over and there was

469
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.440
<v Speaker 3>a hook for it that was in the corner if

470
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:05.440
<v Speaker 3>you're facing the door, would be the left hand corner

471
00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:08.839
<v Speaker 3>up about three feet out from either wall. He hugging

472
00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:11.799
<v Speaker 3>up on the hook just to illuminate that area. Had

473
00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.759
<v Speaker 3>the one in the kitchen, had Alec get back over

474
00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:19.279
<v Speaker 3>behind him, and he had that smaller the buttstock, the

475
00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:21.559
<v Speaker 3>one that was shortened for his grandpa next to him

476
00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.640
<v Speaker 3>on the counter, and he had his and he was

477
00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.440
<v Speaker 3>standing there with Alec behind him by this cupboard because

478
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.720
<v Speaker 3>again this bang shook the whole place. As he's sitting there,

479
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.920
<v Speaker 3>it goes dead quiet, and it's quiet for a long time.

480
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Alec has calmed down at this point because it's been

481
00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:39.640
<v Speaker 3>quiet for well over forty five minutes, probably over an hour.

482
00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:44.599
<v Speaker 3>Alec said, Dad, I'm hungry, so that changes his focus.

483
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.240
<v Speaker 3>He sets the rifle down, dishes up his son, and

484
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:50.359
<v Speaker 3>dishes himself up. And what he did was he drug

485
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.400
<v Speaker 3>two of the chairs back into the kitchen, back into

486
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.240
<v Speaker 3>that little corner so they could sit right in front

487
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.359
<v Speaker 3>of each other. Alec could feel safe, and they were

488
00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:59.400
<v Speaker 3>away from the door in the windows right. So it

489
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.160
<v Speaker 3>goes on for quite a while. So what he does

490
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 3>is the sleeping gear. There's a cot by that kitchen

491
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.960
<v Speaker 3>table between that window and where that lamp is hanging

492
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 3>to the left hand side of the door. There's a

493
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.759
<v Speaker 3>cot there, and there's another one opposite of it. But

494
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:19.960
<v Speaker 3>there's a woodstove in that corner, and then the cot

495
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 3>and then the drip stove and then the kitchen. He

496
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:23.960
<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to be in any one of those cots

497
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 3>because they're right near the windows. The head of it

498
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.480
<v Speaker 3>ends at the windows. So he drags the stuff into

499
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.039
<v Speaker 3>the floor in that kitchen area in the back of

500
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.720
<v Speaker 3>the cabin to where they felt more safe. There was

501
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.720
<v Speaker 3>more distance between the door and the windows. He got

502
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.039
<v Speaker 3>all that set up, got Alec to sleep after eating

503
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.319
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, because again get quiet. He had killed the

504
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 3>lamp over in the corner near the door, basically had

505
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 3>the one dimmed down up on the counter behind him,

506
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 3>and he was sitting up still with his back against

507
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.319
<v Speaker 3>the cupboards. Oh, looking watching, he said. He dozed off

508
00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:01.680
<v Speaker 3>at some point and he woke up to another boom,

509
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.720
<v Speaker 3>shook the whole place, made Alex scream and start crying.

510
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Paul me it was like hush, I should have quiet.

511
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 3>And then another one boom, and it was going around

512
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:13.960
<v Speaker 3>the cabin. Boom just went all the way around, banged

513
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.960
<v Speaker 3>on the door once as well, made a full complete circle.

514
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 3>Right when it came around to the right hand side,

515
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 3>he thought for sure it was going to break the window,

516
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 3>because it hit real hard right underneath that window, and

517
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.839
<v Speaker 3>it sounded like a pressure fracture in the window. He

518
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:28.279
<v Speaker 3>didn't know if it was coming through or not, so

519
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.400
<v Speaker 3>he had the rifle pointed there and it just continued

520
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:34.160
<v Speaker 3>working around back up to behind them and then stopped.

521
00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Of course, you know, his son sobbing, he said, not

522
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 3>that much time they passed it did it again, but

523
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.039
<v Speaker 3>the opposite way, ma'am. And when it hit near that

524
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.599
<v Speaker 3>window again, it sounded again like that window was fracturing.

525
00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 3>He was concerned about that. He didn't want no openings

526
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:52.160
<v Speaker 3>out there, even though it was a window and it

527
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 3>could easily come through regardless. So after it did that

528
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.440
<v Speaker 3>a couple of different times over the course of a

529
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.240
<v Speaker 3>few hours, he's not sure exactly because he wasn't watching

530
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 3>her clock, and he was worried about what am I

531
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.039
<v Speaker 3>going to do to keep my son safe? But it

532
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 3>was like every time his son was just calming down

533
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 3>from the time before, or do it again, and it

534
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 3>was always opposite. It'd go one direction one time, then

535
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 3>the other direction the next to it. So finally Paul

536
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 3>got sick and tired of being sick and tired of

537
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:21.160
<v Speaker 3>being scared. It sounded like the double pain, which was

538
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:24.079
<v Speaker 3>all handset back then. It wasn't like they bought the

539
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.240
<v Speaker 3>window that way. The panes of glass were brought up

540
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.880
<v Speaker 3>and then glazed in by one of his elders and

541
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.839
<v Speaker 3>glazed him in itself. A family member did, and it

542
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.799
<v Speaker 3>was double pain, but it wasn't all that. It wasn't

543
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 3>like modern type shit. He decides he's going to check

544
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 3>that window when the sun is calm, so he relights

545
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Speaker 3>the lantern up in the corner up in the left

546
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.759
<v Speaker 3>by the door, gets that going, gets the other one

547
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 3>nice and bright in the kitchen counter, so he has

548
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.519
<v Speaker 3>plenty of light. He has Alex sitting up back against

549
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 3>the cabinets and just being quiet, and so he goes

550
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:56.960
<v Speaker 3>over and he's holding the rifle with one arm and

551
00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 3>he pulls the covering to look out, and of course

552
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 3>everything's mirrored right because it's dark out at this point.

553
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.240
<v Speaker 3>He pulls it back and he doesn't see any cracking

554
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 3>in the glass itself, so he assumed the noises he

555
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 3>was hearing is the separation of the glazing or however

556
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 3>was made. So it's okay, the glass is still in

557
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:17.920
<v Speaker 3>tact kind of thing. There's nothing I can do about

558
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 3>it now. He just lets go of this particular curtain.

559
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't push it back into the casing to fully

560
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.640
<v Speaker 3>seal off anything. So as he gets back over and

561
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 3>he sits down, there's a little bit of a draft

562
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.759
<v Speaker 3>coming from the side where Alec was on, and that

563
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 3>was due to the sink. They had a drain hole

564
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.319
<v Speaker 3>that happened to be right behind where Alex's sleeping bags were,

565
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 3>so he was catching a little bit of a draft

566
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 3>from the covered door would and shut all the way

567
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 3>and a little bit of a draft was coming out.

568
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 3>So Paul switched spots with him right just so happened

569
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.319
<v Speaker 3>when he shifted over. He looks over at that window.

570
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 3>The way the curtains fell, there was a gap. There

571
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 3>was a gap between the casing and the curtain. With

572
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 3>the light. There was no mirroring effect with the lantern

573
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 3>where he moved it behind him over his head. The

574
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 3>lantern was casting light and he saw eye shine, just

575
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 3>a single eye. It startled him and he raised the

576
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>rifle and then all of a sudden, eyeshine was gone.

577
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Freaked him out. It was red eyeshine. It was real big.

578
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 3>So he jumps up, goes and pushes it back into place,

579
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.240
<v Speaker 3>and as he pushes it back into where it needed

580
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 3>to be to fully seal out anything looking in, bam,

581
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.759
<v Speaker 3>it hit right outside the wall, right next to the windows.

582
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.519
<v Speaker 3>Scared the everleven shit out of him. Of course, when

583
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.279
<v Speaker 3>that happened, he just out of reflex jumped back right.

584
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 3>There is this drip stove as well. He just shoots

585
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.400
<v Speaker 3>through the wall right there and it all happened real fast.

586
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 3>It was just reflex. Bam shoots through the wall. Alex

587
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 3>screams because gunshot in the middle of this cabin that

588
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 3>ain't all that big, and startled the hell of him

589
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.000
<v Speaker 3>because he wasn't expecting yet. The bang already had him

590
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.440
<v Speaker 3>tense up. But then his dad's shooting you really set

591
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 3>it off. And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

592
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:12.240
<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back after these messages. So once his

593
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 3>son screams and he runs back over to him, says,

594
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 3>calm down, they hear a scream from outside. The scream

595
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 3>outside was exactly Alex creed exactly, just much louder, and

596
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 3>it continued. It was like Nat got Alec to be

597
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 3>quiet and listen because this thing is imitating the scream

598
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 3>he just let out. Moving around the cabin, screamed over

599
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 3>here like it was doing, but not pounding this time,

600
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 3>but doing his scream, which was way more scarier than pounding,

601
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 3>because it sounded just like him, just louder. Freaked him out.

602
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 3>Got quiet after a while. From what Paul said, it

603
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 3>stayed quiet for a good long time to where Alec

604
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 3>fell asleep and he dozed off again, leaning against the cupboard.

605
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:03.519
<v Speaker 3>He was jolted away by Alex saying, Dad, real loud

606
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 3>right because he was sleeping hard. It was wiped out

607
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 3>his sun basical clean his ear yelling it startled him.

608
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 3>He jumped up. Whoa Alex says, I think it's morning.

609
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't hear him. He goes, you don't hear them.

610
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 3>We couldn't hear him before except when they're banging. He goes, No,

611
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.079
<v Speaker 3>they wanted me to come out and play, they said.

612
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>When he said all night they kept asking me come

613
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 3>out and play. That streaked Paul out. He said, look, son,

614
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.079
<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about? He goes, they would ask

615
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 3>me to come out and play. He didn't drill him

616
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 3>too hard about it. Said how are they telling you that?

617
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, I would hear it in my head.

618
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 3>They were telling me come out and play. I thought

619
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.240
<v Speaker 3>you heard him Dad. You didn't say nothing, so I

620
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.759
<v Speaker 3>didn't say nothing. Paul was taken back by that. He

621
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 3>got up. He looks around, pulls a curtain. It's daylight

622
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 3>enough to where he could look out and see there

623
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 3>was nothing out there. Once he waited a while, fall

624
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.319
<v Speaker 3>obvious movement out or whatever, he teld the son stay

625
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:01.400
<v Speaker 3>right here, don't shoot dad. I'm gonna cry the nails

626
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 3>out of the way and go outside and see if

627
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.759
<v Speaker 3>you know they're gone. So he prised the nails and everything.

628
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 3>He said. It took a lot of courage to unlock

629
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.079
<v Speaker 3>that dead bolt and go out because there was no

630
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.079
<v Speaker 3>window on that side. For all he knew, it could

631
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>have been standing right out the door. He unlocks, opens

632
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:19.359
<v Speaker 3>the door with the rifle ready. Nothing looks around, goes

633
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>out the one side, looks down towards the back. Nothing

634
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>same thing. The air, he said, was a lot different.

635
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 3>There was no heaviness in the air. So he came

636
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 3>back in, shut and locked the dead Bowlt started making

637
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 3>breakfast stuff, pulled his son to keep an eye out,

638
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.799
<v Speaker 3>let him know if they say anything else, because he

639
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 3>didn't know how to address it with a sign about

640
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 3>this mind speaking, but didn't want to freak him out,

641
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>just kept it without no pressure on it, so to speak.

642
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Speaker 3>So they did their thing. They get did the breakfast

643
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 3>stuff because Alec was hungry. As soon as it was

644
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.960
<v Speaker 3>full on daylight, not twilight of the morning. Paul made

645
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.039
<v Speaker 3>sure that the drip stove valve was shut off. All

646
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.680
<v Speaker 3>the kerosene landers were off. Everything safety wise that could

647
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.359
<v Speaker 3>cause a fire was shut off. Did one more couple

648
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 3>rounds around the cabin, making sure there was obvious signs

649
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.759
<v Speaker 3>of these things, and he got Alec and they got

650
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 3>out of there, hike back down to where the skiff was,

651
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 3>they got out of there. He heard of one other

652
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 3>instance at that cabin after that, with one of his

653
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 3>younger female cousins, which was like ten years younger. She

654
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>was an adult, but her daughter had a situation of

655
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 3>them asking them to come out and play because he

656
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 3>told his family, Hey, the bushman was banging and all

657
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 3>this kind of stuff, so everyone was aware. He asked

658
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 3>about anything prior that may have happened, but there's so

659
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 3>much heavy superstition about even speaking about it. He was

660
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 3>told to shut up, don't even bring it up. So

661
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 3>he took that as yeah, there was, but no one's

662
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 3>going to say anything, right. I want to thank Paul

663
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 3>for sharing Alec. When I spoke to him, there wasn't

664
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot he could add because of the time.

665
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 3>He remembers clearly the times that it was banging real hard.

666
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 3>He at his age a little older than me, it

667
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 3>still choked him up. Seeing the fear in his dad's

668
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 3>eye because he saw his dad as he man, what

669
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 3>kid doesn't he said, What scared him the most is

670
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 3>seeing his dad scared. Seeing his dad scared made him

671
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.559
<v Speaker 3>more scared than seeing it peeking in the window or

672
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 3>initially seeing it outside. I wanted to share with you

673
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.400
<v Speaker 3>today comes from We'll name him Samuel. Now Samuel. Back

674
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen sixty nine, he got a job at Red

675
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Double Mind. Now that's on the cusco Quinn River, just

676
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.320
<v Speaker 3>up around the bend from sleep Mute. Samuel young guy

677
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 3>at the time. He was hired on as basically a

678
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.039
<v Speaker 3>type of rust about. He would run a skiff back

679
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 3>and forth from the mine over to sleep Mute, picking

680
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 3>up supplies or whatever. He enjoyed it. He enjoyed the job.

681
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.079
<v Speaker 3>This one morning he was driving the skiff. He was

682
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 3>heading down to sleep Mute when he off to his

683
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.280
<v Speaker 3>right hand side, just before the bind of the river.

684
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>He could have swore he saw a Saint Bernard. The

685
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 3>coloring of it, he was like someone lost their dog.

686
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 3>So he cuts into the bank to see if the

687
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:18.480
<v Speaker 3>dog was accompanied by anybody. As he gets in there,

688
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 3>he breaks through the brush and there's a little bit

689
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 3>of an opening it's about seventy five feet. He sees

690
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 3>movement the same coloring, and he's calling out for this

691
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 3>dog hair, Doggy, here, doggie. It stops in the brush,

692
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 3>but it's not coming to him. So he goes, ah,

693
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 3>I got jerky in the boat. I'm gonna go grab it.

694
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.199
<v Speaker 3>So he runs over grabs a jerky. When he comes back,

695
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't see it. So he goes closer to the

696
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 3>brush and he's right up in the alders and stuff.

697
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 3>He's got this jerky here, puppy here. No, it's gonna

698
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.000
<v Speaker 3>hurt you. No, it's gonna hurt you. Leaning in, he

699
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 3>could see the hair in the movement because it was

700
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:57.079
<v Speaker 3>such a mangle of the alders. It's like spaghetti, he said.

701
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 3>As he was sitting there, he's holding this piece of

702
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 3>jerky out. He's looking around, looking through, and he's come on,

703
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.440
<v Speaker 3>here you go, doggie, here you go. As he's looking through,

704
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 3>he notices eyes looking at him, and they weren't dog's eyes,

705
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 3>ashen gray face like that Saint Bernard Red as he

706
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 3>called it, blatnose looked relatively young looking in the face,

707
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 3>had a few wrinkles but not a lot. Eyes were

708
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 3>pitch black, according to what he said, very beady looking.

709
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 3>He's been shocked, trying to recognize what the hell he's seeing, right,

710
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 3>because the inside, what the hell is this? And this

711
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 3>is all happening really fast. It's taking me far longer

712
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to explain it to you. So as he's holding out

713
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 3>this piece of jerky, just as he was recognizing it

714
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a dog, a hand snatches that jerky out of

715
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 3>his hand. He stands up, drops the bag, he falls backwards,

716
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.679
<v Speaker 3>dropped his rifle. This thing stands up in the brush.

717
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Now he guest made it at that time. It was

718
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 3>early season. The alders they're about eight foot, and this

719
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 3>thing was at least head and shoulders above that looking

720
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:06.400
<v Speaker 3>down at him. Pushed the brush, reached down, grabbed the

721
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 3>rest of the bag of the jerky, and he's just

722
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 3>on the ground looking up at this thing. He's trying

723
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 3>to figure out exactly what he's looking at, because up

724
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 3>until that point he saw a blip of the Patty

725
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:21.519
<v Speaker 3>footage from the Patterson Gimlin stuff at the beginning of

726
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 3>some movie. It was a short news real blip or something.

727
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>He just didn't really pay attention to it. He thought

728
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 3>it was an upcoming movie. Being a shocked, he jumps up.

729
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.800
<v Speaker 3>He grabs his rifle as this thing's just standing there

730
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 3>looking at him, and he takes off, running back to

731
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 3>the skiff. He hops in rips back to sleep moot.

732
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.599
<v Speaker 3>When he gets there, he was there to meet up

733
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.199
<v Speaker 3>with a foreman he was picking up that was there

734
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 3>waiting on him with some supplies and stuff. So he

735
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>gets over there. The foreman gets on, he's helping all

736
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 3>this stuff up and the forms of a year pale

737
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 3>as hell. Are you okay? What's going on? He didn't

738
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 3>know what to say. Samuel said he was at a

739
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 3>loss for words. He couldn't articulate what he was dealing with.

740
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Said he was hyper emotional. He just started sobbing a

741
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 3>little bit. The guy left him alone about it. He said, hey,

742
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 3>if you want to let me know, he can let

743
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 3>me know. So on the way back, he tried to

744
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 3>go to the farthest side of the river to avoid

745
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.679
<v Speaker 3>being near that section, but he knew it was on

746
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 3>the same side of the river as camp, and it

747
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 3>was nervous about that, he said. When they got back

748
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 3>to camp, the fore men talked to some other guys,

749
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 3>and one of the guys he talked to happened to

750
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 3>be one of Samuel's buddies, another roster about, and he

751
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 3>comes over. I was trying to engage him here you

752
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 3>are right before, mean was saying you weren't looking too

753
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 3>good and you're pale. Man, what's going on? So he

754
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 3>pulls the guy's side, breaks down what happened? Right? The

755
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 3>guy he'd pulled aside that he thought was a friend

756
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 3>of his, started rasing him pretty hard. Oh, geez, man,

757
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 3>you need to sleep more. You better hope they don't

758
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 3>do drug testing stuff like this, which really it was

759
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 3>a bad thing to do. So a little while goes on,

760
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:59.519
<v Speaker 3>Samuel leaves that job. He leaves it right on good terms.

761
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 3>But he had to leave. So skip forward. This mine

762
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 3>was only open from sixty nine to seventy one. He

763
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.559
<v Speaker 3>came back towards the latter part to do some I

764
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 3>believe they were closing something down. There was a process

765
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:18.239
<v Speaker 3>going on, and so he was back. Now when he

766
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:23.239
<v Speaker 3>came back, he immediately thought that encounter he had at

767
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 3>the time, everyone was real quiet, far different than when

768
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:30.079
<v Speaker 3>he was initially there. One of the guys he recognized

769
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:31.679
<v Speaker 3>from his time there before. I called him on and

770
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.039
<v Speaker 3>we said, hey, why the solemn is because everyone's losing

771
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 3>their job, and he was like, no, there was just

772
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.280
<v Speaker 3>some strange stuff. A couple of those guys over there.

773
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.239
<v Speaker 3>It dealt with down around the bend here. They went

774
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 3>for a hike a little while back, and they won't

775
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:48.159
<v Speaker 3>talk about it or whatever, right, So Samuel says, oh, okay,

776
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 3>goes over and talks to them. So he talks to

777
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 3>these two guys and they're like, hey, we saw stuff too.

778
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.159
<v Speaker 3>We'll go with you. Let's go look around. So they

779
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 3>take the boat on their off time and they go

780
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.760
<v Speaker 3>back over to this They go up in there. As

781
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 3>they get to that clearing, it's different now because it

782
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 3>changes little bits every year. Samuel and these two guys

783
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 3>they get back up in there, and one of the

784
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:13.079
<v Speaker 3>guys felt like they were wasting their time. They had

785
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 3>cut across. He had showed them what happened to him.

786
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 3>The guys said, hey, we saw him over here and

787
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 3>somewhere between where they saw him very near the encounter

788
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 3>location for Samuel. They stopped somewhere in the middle, and

789
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 3>one of the guys that was like, I can't be

790
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.280
<v Speaker 3>sure exactly what I saw. So he starts reeling and

791
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:35.039
<v Speaker 3>backtracking on what he saw, he took off his backpack

792
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 3>and leaned it up against by the brush. As he

793
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 3>was sitting down, Samuel and the other guy were over

794
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.840
<v Speaker 3>in the clearing more in front of him, and he

795
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 3>stands up and walks towards them to get in the conversation,

796
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:51.519
<v Speaker 3>and they're all three talking or whatever, and Samuel said

797
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 3>they heard some weird chirping and so it drew their

798
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 3>attention further up the mountain in front of them, off

799
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:58.639
<v Speaker 3>to their right, so they're all looking over this way.

800
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 3>The guy who had set his backpack down right near

801
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 3>the brush walked over to him, turned around and said, hey,

802
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.719
<v Speaker 3>where'd you put my backpack? And they're all like, we've

803
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 3>been right here in front of you, what are you

804
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 3>talking about. Meanwhile, that whistling is still going on. So

805
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 3>Samueline is the guy next to him. They're making sure

806
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 3>they got rounds in their rifles right, And the guy

807
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 3>was like, this ain't funny. What'd you guys do with

808
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 3>my backpack? And the guy it wasn't registering that no

809
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 3>one took his pack, at least not Samuel or the

810
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:31.800
<v Speaker 3>other guy. So he goes back over and he's looking

811
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:33.840
<v Speaker 3>in the brush to see if maybe he pushed a

812
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:35.960
<v Speaker 3>little further than when he stood up, maybe the brush

813
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 3>closed over it or something. He was trying to figure

814
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 3>it out. He was struggling to figure it out. He

815
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 3>gets back over the brush. Nothing, he ain't seeing nothing

816
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.000
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. All of a sudden he hears

817
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 3>one of those strange whistles back behind the brush where

818
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 3>he can't see, so he backs away. As he's backing away,

819
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 3>he gets to a point, and at this point Samuel

820
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:59.559
<v Speaker 3>and the other guy they see what he can't, and

821
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 3>they their rifles. Samuel said it appeared to be a

822
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 3>much larger one standing there looking rocking his head back

823
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.400
<v Speaker 3>and forth. The way the light was it was silhouetted,

824
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 3>so they couldn't make out any facial features, but they

825
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 3>could tell it was big. The guy backing away from

826
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 3>the brush gets a peek and gets startled holy crap,

827
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.119
<v Speaker 3>and turns around starts running back towards his two buddies

828
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 3>where you know, Samuel and the other guy. As he does,

829
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.840
<v Speaker 3>his backpack comes flying and lands past them into the

830
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.519
<v Speaker 3>opening of his clearing right. He turns around and he

831
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 3>looks again, and the loud whistles and screams and whoops

832
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 3>started from a couple different directions, freaked them all out.

833
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<v Speaker 3>No one shot. They just retreated back to the skiff.

834
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 3>One of the guys that tied off the skiff because

835
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Samuel was running the motor. When he pulled up to

836
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<v Speaker 3>the bank, one of the guys tied an impossible knot.

837
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<v Speaker 3>He just wasn't well versed. It was a good knot,

838
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:56.000
<v Speaker 3>but not for what they needed. When they were sitting

839
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<v Speaker 3>there trying to figure out what to do and try

840
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 3>not to either not, they heard the whistles getting closer,

841
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 3>and they heard movement and brush and Samuel just cut

842
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 3>that line. They just cut it. They dropped it in there,

843
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 3>He fired up to outboard. They took off and went

844
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 3>to sleep mute. Now when they were in sleep, newt

845
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:17.840
<v Speaker 3>they were, holy crap, who do we tell about this?

846
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 3>We got to report this? And Samuel said, all I

847
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.079
<v Speaker 3>got was ridicule last time I tried. So they went

848
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:25.880
<v Speaker 3>and tried to find one of the guys. There was

849
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<v Speaker 3>a native guy that worked around the camp or whatever

850
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.280
<v Speaker 3>to ask his advice. They couldn't find him anywhere right,

851
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 3>So they ended up handling what they had to handle

852
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 3>and took off back to camp again. They skirted way around,

853
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 3>so when they got back to camp, they went and

854
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.880
<v Speaker 3>talked to whoever was in charge at that time, and

855
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:48.679
<v Speaker 3>was asking the guy, Hey, what do we do about

856
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 3>reporting some crazy stuff right down the way here less

857
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.679
<v Speaker 3>than a mile maybe a mile away, And the guy

858
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 3>told him, you don't report to no one. We're in

859
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.679
<v Speaker 3>the process of closing down. It is what it is.

860
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.800
<v Speaker 3>What I don't even want to hear about it. You

861
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.880
<v Speaker 3>guys will get reprimanded and drug tested or something if

862
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 3>you guys continue on. It was real weird for Samuel.

863
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 3>He was like, where's our safety at in this? He

864
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.840
<v Speaker 3>was riled, thrown off by the whole ordeal. The rest

865
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 3>of the time he was there, there wasn't much. They

866
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 3>heard a couple of whoops. That was the extent of it.

867
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<v Speaker 3>I want to thank Samuel one for being patient. It

868
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:23.880
<v Speaker 3>gets busy and it gets hard to get back to everybody.

869
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<v Speaker 3>I'll catch up with y'all on the next one.

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<v Speaker 4>They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

871
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be open.

872
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<v Speaker 4>Joy this chard, that chart, everything calling r ring back

873
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<v Speaker 4>joy for me, Joy staying right, you come it right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Still still sat stas state passes states, things used these

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<v Speaker 2>pass
