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<v Speaker 2>Hi everyone, Welcome to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rose and als

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<v Speaker 2>the first official Hot Stove Show of the offseason. As

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<v Speaker 2>with Anthony Castrobins from MLB dot Com as he was

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<v Speaker 2>covering the World Series for that website, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>his thoughts on the series as well as what lies

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<v Speaker 2>ahead for the Guardians in twenty twenty five after a

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<v Speaker 2>nice run into the American League Championship Series this past season.

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<v Speaker 2>He will also visit with pitching coach Carl Willis an

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<v Speaker 2>outstanding interview on his career in baseball, and it is lengthy.

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<v Speaker 2>It started as a player back in the early nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighties and continued through this as the pitching coach for

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<v Speaker 2>the Guardians, and he certainly has made an impact on

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<v Speaker 2>this organization and continues to do so as the Guardian's

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<v Speaker 2>pitching continues to be the backbone of everything they do.

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<v Speaker 2>So stay with us while we can back well here

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<v Speaker 2>from Anthony cashter Vin's talk World series and what lies

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Guardians Weekly, and we are joined by

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<v Speaker 2>a good friend of the program, longtime writer and a

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<v Speaker 2>columnist for MLB dot com. Used to be the Indians

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<v Speaker 2>dot com reporter back in the day, but now covering

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<v Speaker 2>on the national beat for MLB dot com, Anthony Caster Vince,

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<v Speaker 2>who is hot off a world series that went five games,

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Los Angeles Dodgers, and Anthony, let's start

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<v Speaker 2>right there, so much build up for this world series

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<v Speaker 2>once the teams advanced and it was Yankees Dodgers, and

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<v Speaker 2>you almost felt the only way it could live up

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<v Speaker 2>to the hype would have been a seven game series

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<v Speaker 2>that might might have gone extra innings for game seven,

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<v Speaker 2>but for a five game series, very entertaining and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of twists and turns, And what was your takeaway

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<v Speaker 2>when it was all said and done and you had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to look back on it, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Compare it to the Alcs in that it was only

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<v Speaker 4>five games, but you know, five very compelling games just

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<v Speaker 4>the way it played out, and very easily could have

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<v Speaker 4>been a seven game series, very easily could have been three.

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<v Speaker 5>Two Yankees.

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<v Speaker 4>Going back to l Ah that was that was very

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<v Speaker 4>much in the cards. That they not, you know, coughed

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<v Speaker 4>it up in Game one and had a couple other

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<v Speaker 4>things go against them, you know, later in the series.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think what you saw ultimately was, yeah, these

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<v Speaker 4>were two like blockbuster ball clubs, you know, big payrolls,

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<v Speaker 4>lots of stars, et cetera. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, the Dodgers were the better baseball team, like

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<v Speaker 4>pure baseball team. They caught the ball better, they run

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<v Speaker 4>the bases better, they had a deeper line up, they

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<v Speaker 4>had more bench options.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's that's what it came down to, is the

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<v Speaker 5>Yankees were just kind of thin. They had there.

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<v Speaker 4>Their their stars are stars, but you know, Aaron Judge

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<v Speaker 4>had a rough series until the last game and then

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<v Speaker 4>made a big error in the last game, and that

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<v Speaker 4>was just kind of who the Yankees were. They just

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<v Speaker 4>don't catch the ball particularly well, and it really came

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<v Speaker 4>back to bite them.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you look at it through that lens and

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<v Speaker 2>a guardian's lens, so to speak, I think we saw

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<v Speaker 2>some of that in the Alcs. So so was it

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<v Speaker 2>much of a surprise maybe among the folks that you

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<v Speaker 2>were around in New York who followed that team on

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<v Speaker 2>a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I know there was some internal frustration with their

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<v Speaker 4>defensive play this season, and yeah, we definitely saw in

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<v Speaker 4>that Guardian series, right, I mean they you know, they

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<v Speaker 4>went up to two oh on the Guards and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, nearly cought it up in that series with

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<v Speaker 4>some of their foibles in the field. And that's what

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<v Speaker 4>made it so frustrating that, you know, the Guardians didn't

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<v Speaker 4>play their best brand of baseball in the Bronx because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's another series that very easily could have

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<v Speaker 4>been flipped on its head had they you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of defensive plays that went away.

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<v Speaker 5>For them that was very characteristic for Cleveland. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>just the postseason.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, every moment matters, and it's fascinating when you're dig

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<v Speaker 4>into these games and the wild swings that can happen

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<v Speaker 4>from one play.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you can rewrite your entire trajectory, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with one play. So but I did. I thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was a really fun, interesting world series. I know, like

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<v Speaker 5>in a market like Cleveland, you know, there's frustration to

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<v Speaker 5>see these big payroll clubs and that tends to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>But it had been a long time since, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>two of the top three payrolls actually made it to

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<v Speaker 4>the series at the same time, and it's become very

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<v Speaker 4>rare for the two number one seeds to advance the

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<v Speaker 4>World Series the way the Dodgers and Yankees did. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when you get right down to it, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there's so much talent on that field.

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<v Speaker 5>It was really cool to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>You got Juan Soto, Aaron Judge, you know, John Carlos

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<v Speaker 4>Stanton with the run that he was on this October,

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<v Speaker 4>and then on the other side, of course, Shoho Toadi

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<v Speaker 4>and Mookie Bets and then Freddie Freeman just had a

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<v Speaker 4>World series for the Ages and.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned some of those stars. Otani obviously compromised by

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<v Speaker 2>by an injury but didn't impact the series much Aaron Judge,

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. And from that again that Guardians Lens I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Jose Ramirez a he didn't have the impact that

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<v Speaker 2>that you may be t would have. And what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think some of the challenges are for superstars to

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<v Speaker 2>perform on that stage and what allows someone like a

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<v Speaker 2>Freddie Freeman to do just that if you can narrow

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<v Speaker 2>it down a little bit, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why you got to really appreciate when a star

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<v Speaker 4>performs up to his capabilities in October.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I'm always wowed.

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<v Speaker 4>By Derek Jeter's career postseason line is pretty much right

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<v Speaker 4>in line with his career numbers, and that's really hard

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<v Speaker 4>to do. I mean, it shows that he played the

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<v Speaker 4>equivalent of a full season in October and his numbers

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<v Speaker 4>were basically like a normal career year for Derek Jeter.

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<v Speaker 4>That's tough to do because of the heightened focus in October,

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<v Speaker 4>and that works both ways.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the hitters are more focused and the pictures

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<v Speaker 5>are more focused.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think the pictures have an advantage, you know

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to scouting reports and really keying in

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<v Speaker 4>on those key players.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's what happens is you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>get through that.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard John Smoltz talk about this where this guy

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<v Speaker 4>who's pitching the postseason many times and had a Hall

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<v Speaker 4>of Fame career, but he said that you know you're

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<v Speaker 4>going you're just grinding through the regular season. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's a long year. It's physically taxing, it's mentally draining,

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<v Speaker 4>et cetera. You get to October and yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 4>the weight of all you've gone through all year physically

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<v Speaker 4>and mentally, but it's what you play for and there's

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<v Speaker 4>just there is just a heightened ability to really hone

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<v Speaker 4>in on every pitch. It's another Nick Cassianos is another

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<v Speaker 4>great example, you know, outfielder for the Phillies. He's made

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of great defensive plays in October in the

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<v Speaker 4>last few years. He's not a good defense in the

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<v Speaker 4>regular season. He said, I just just focus is better

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<v Speaker 4>in the postseason. So for whatever reason, you know that

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<v Speaker 4>that's what happens, and you know, I do think it

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<v Speaker 4>makes it difficult for a player like Jose Ramirez, where you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, he had better support in the lineup this year,

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<v Speaker 5>but not a great deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Of support, certainly not as much as uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Freddy Freeman and that Dodgers lineup that's so deep, so

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<v Speaker 4>they can really key it on him and make it

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<v Speaker 4>make his life miserable. And he still was able to

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<v Speaker 4>come through with some big knocks, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 4>Guardian's run. But yeah, ultimately wasn't able to have that

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<v Speaker 4>transcendent series.

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<v Speaker 2>MLB dot COM's Anthony Castervince joining us talking world series

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to some Guardians in a moment. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers, they're the World champs. They spent a billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars last offseason. Look, payroll was not an issue. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm not speaking for fans out there, but for

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, it seemed like they were a likable

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<v Speaker 2>bunch that wins the World Series. And you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>people say, O, well, underdog because of the injuries. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not buying that. They're not an underdogs. But for a

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<v Speaker 2>team that spent a lot of money, there are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of teams like that that you're just like, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, well, the big deal they won the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think for the Dodgers it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>different and did it to you at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>It did.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you got Freddy Freeman's a great story of

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<v Speaker 4>That's a guy that is very well respected to baseball,

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<v Speaker 4>has been for a long time, and went through a

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<v Speaker 4>lot this year with his son, you know, having a

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<v Speaker 4>rare autoimmune disorder, and you know, he missed time from

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<v Speaker 4>the team while dealing with that, and the son's doing

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<v Speaker 4>better now, but you know, hanging over his head, and

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<v Speaker 4>then the injury.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Severely sprained his ankle just before the end of the

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<v Speaker 4>regular season, and so he's very little expected of him offensively,

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<v Speaker 4>given what we'd seen in the first couple of rounds.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he goes out and you know, hits the

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<v Speaker 4>first walk off Grand Slam in World Series history and

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<v Speaker 4>drives in twelve runs, ties a record for the World Series.

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<v Speaker 5>He does it in only five games. So it was crazy,

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<v Speaker 5>crazy performance.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know that, I think Mookie Betts is super

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<v Speaker 4>likable Otani personality wise, you know, we don't know much

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<v Speaker 4>about him, but he is obviously just an eye catching talent.

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<v Speaker 5>He's an incredible talent, so you know, you just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of mesmerized by what he can do.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, they did have a nice just a general

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<v Speaker 4>blend of you know, they had a good ballplayer team

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<v Speaker 4>mentality where they pick each other up and like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>been a great postseason performer for a long time and

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<v Speaker 4>the postseason stage and you know, starts Game three and

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<v Speaker 5>Of his career. So that probably helped his free agent value.

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<v Speaker 2>in general, and he had a nice piece on yesterday's

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<v Speaker 2>website about this. The two series of Guardians were involved

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<v Speaker 2>in highly entertaining and maybe maybe I cast a bias

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<v Speaker 2>lens on it, but it seemed like the postseason in

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<v Speaker 2>general was filled with memorable moments this year, more so

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<v Speaker 4>I think so, And I tried to look at it

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<v Speaker 4>ten moments based on win probability added. So that's a

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<v Speaker 4>single play. How did that play impact the team's chances

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<v Speaker 4>of winning that particular game? And you know, like Freddie

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<v Speaker 4>Freeman's Grand Slam was seventy something percent, It changed the

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<v Speaker 4>Dodgers odds of winning that game from like twenty seven

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<v Speaker 5>And we had a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 4>know David Fry's big home run. You have to pick

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<v Speaker 4>one because it's the one in Detroit was actually the

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<v Speaker 4>higher win probability added than the walk off because you

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<v Speaker 4>know the walk off the game was tied against the Yankees,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know his his home run that that changed

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<v Speaker 4>that game in Detroit and kept the Guardian season alive

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<v Speaker 5>That was a huge one.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the other one that rated very high on

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<v Speaker 4>Well, with that game tying home run off play homes

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<v Speaker 4>in Game three of the ALCS, that increased the Guardian's

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<v Speaker 4>We were all thinking the same thing, like, Okay, he's

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<v Speaker 5>Let's see if he can do it. And he did

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<v Speaker 5>it immediately, just that rocket out to left. I can

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<v Speaker 4>So that was I got Teyer Rosie, Like I've been

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<v Speaker 4>covering baseball for twenty years, and I mean three of

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<v Speaker 4>person were this past month. You know that that game

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<v Speaker 4>I just referenced to, you know, ALCS game three, I

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<v Speaker 4>think ALDS Game five here in Cleveland, where you know,

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<v Speaker 4>where the Guardians scratched together against Terry Scoble and Lane

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<v Speaker 4>Thomas broke it open with the grand slam. And then

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<v Speaker 4>that Game one of the World Series, you know, with

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<v Speaker 4>the Freddie Freeman walk off grand slamming. That's just like

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<v Speaker 4>an iconic moment. Instantly you know you're you're you're witnessing

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely a memory. Postseason, it is now complete, so I

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony look back at the Guardian season. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>went further than so many people would have predicted back

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<v Speaker 2>in spring training. Where do they go from here and

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<v Speaker 2>what were some of the things that you saw this

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<v Speaker 2>year that they can build on with the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>there are some things that they need to add as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you just build on the strides that the

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you can build on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you have to build around that, because that

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<v Speaker 4>was the key to the year, was the bullpen coming

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<v Speaker 4>together the way it did.

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<v Speaker 5>But the danger of that, especially when you go on

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<v Speaker 5>a deep run like.

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<v Speaker 4>They did, is is you know, the long term effects

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<v Speaker 4>and so next year they'll probably take a step back,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's just what history tells us. So hopefully, though,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I know it's weird to say they should

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<v Speaker 4>all met their greatest strength, but you know, sometimes that's

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<v Speaker 4>what you have to do just to you know, steal

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<v Speaker 5>You know, some of those guys might get hurt or

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<v Speaker 5>just regress, and then obviously they haven't even the starting

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<v Speaker 5>pitching department. I think that's very clear.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, hopefully, going on the run that they

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<v Speaker 4>did in October, you know the revenues that come with that,

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully it's parlayed into a nice offseason.

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<v Speaker 5>I know there's other stuff in.

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<v Speaker 4>The air with the TV contract and whatnot, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean their time is now clearly have a core,

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<v Speaker 4>a championship caliber corp. Because we saw the first signs

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<v Speaker 4>of it in twenty twenty two. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you go through some learning learning period and growth pains

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<v Speaker 4>what have you last year, and then you take another

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<v Speaker 4>huge step forward this year. So it's hard to maintain

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<v Speaker 4>those steps forward. And again they're going to probably run

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<v Speaker 4>in some trouble with the bullpen. Not that it'll be

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<v Speaker 4>a bad bullpen. I'm just saying they're probably going to

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<v Speaker 4>have to prepare for that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Fans of the show know that we always

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Bruce Springsteen on this show. You are as

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<v Speaker 2>heavy a fan as there is. Hopefully it's not his

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<v Speaker 2>it could be. What have you seen review wise from

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<v Speaker 2>what you've seen on this tour that just continues to

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<v Speaker 2>make him one of the most entertaining shows that you

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've seen enough shows this year to do my

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three was you know, the return from COVID

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<v Speaker 4>and and the band was playing great, but the shows

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<v Speaker 4>were very static. You know, all twenty twenty three was

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<v Speaker 4>essentially the same set list and you wondered, well, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Not the Bruce Springsteen we know. Then you come to

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<v Speaker 5>find that that he was dealing with some physical stuff

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<v Speaker 5>peptic ulcer syndrome. So he's playing through pain, Rosie, much

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<v Speaker 5>like Freddie Freeman.

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<v Speaker 2>So so he can't make the club in the tub.

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<v Speaker 5>Postponemus. They went away for a few months.

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<v Speaker 4>They came back this year in twenty twenty four, and

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<v Speaker 4>my goodness, it's been incredible. You still have the core setlist,

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<v Speaker 4>but a lot of changes, you know, near the top

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<v Speaker 4>of the set there, and a lot of good changes

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<v Speaker 4>and night to night looseness that wasn't there last year.

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<v Speaker 5>They're just playing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I went to the show in Asbury Park,

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<v Speaker 4>New Jersey, on the beach on the shore, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was my sixtieth show Rosie.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was the best one I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>So that goes to show you where he and the

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<v Speaker 4>band are at at this stage, this late stage of

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<v Speaker 5>They can still get it done at a really epic,

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<v Speaker 5>entertaining level. So that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Bands don't have home games, but that's a home game

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<v Speaker 2>for the boss, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a home game, no doubt, no doubt. Forty

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's better that or the World Series

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<v Speaker 2>for you, but either one is I imagined pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>A memorable year as well, but Anthony has always thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much for coming by. Enjoyed the off season what

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<v Speaker 2>there is of it for you as you follow some

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<v Speaker 2>of the moves and activity in Major League Baseball, and

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<v Speaker 2>we always appreciate you coming by.

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<v Speaker 5>Always fun coming on, Rosie, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Anthony Kastervinz from MLB dot Com. Stay with us

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back. We'll hear from Guardians pitching coach

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Willis. That's next on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse along with you

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<v Speaker 2>from the home studio as we join you offsite. Not

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<v Speaker 2>at progressive feel this offseason, as year two of the

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<v Speaker 2>renovations are well underway and the crews there working hard

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<v Speaker 2>to try and complete that project as close to opening

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<v Speaker 2>day as possible. Coming up shortly, we will be joined

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<v Speaker 2>by pitching coach Carl Willis, who just completed his seventh

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<v Speaker 2>season this go round on the Cleveland staff, fourteenth season

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<v Speaker 2>overall as a Guardian's pitching coach, and the twenty first

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<v Speaker 2>at the major league level, and we caught up with

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<v Speaker 2>Carl just as the postseason run was beginning for Cleveland

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to him not only about this year's team,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some pretty good indicators of what makes him tick

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<v Speaker 2>and what has made him one of the best pitching

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<v Speaker 2>coaches in the game for a long, long time. Five

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<v Speaker 2>cy Young Award winners under Willis's watch, starting with c. C.

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<v Speaker 2>Sabathia with the Indians back in two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>then Cliff Lee in two thousand and eight. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>Hernandez his cy Young season in twenty ten. He was

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston when Rick Parcello won the cy Young in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, and of course was Cleveland's pitching coach when

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<v Speaker 2>Shane Bieber won the award in twenty fi This year,

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<v Speaker 2>the Guardians did it a little bit differently from what

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<v Speaker 2>we've been accustomed to. As the starting rotation, they had

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<v Speaker 2>to piece that together at various points in times due

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<v Speaker 2>to injuries and some ineffectiveness for others, and the bullpen

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<v Speaker 2>came to the forefront and man, was that a key

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<v Speaker 2>for this ball club throughout the regular season. And when

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<v Speaker 6>I think we've dealt with something here this year that

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<v Speaker 6>You could go back maybe to twenty nineteen when we

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<v Speaker 6>had some injuries and you know, we had Zach Pleazak

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<v Speaker 6>and Aaron Savali and you know, some guys step in

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<v Speaker 6>This year, losing Shane Bieber was obviously, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 6>of the struggles, if you will, with Tristan and Logan,

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<v Speaker 6>thirteen wins, I mean, he saved us and he did,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the job he did. You can't put a

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<v Speaker 6>because of how important he was. But we have had

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<v Speaker 6>the most part. Maybe those strong bullpens were bullpens that

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<v Speaker 6>a number of guys we have out there who have

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<v Speaker 6>the stuff and have performed, you know, really the entirety

426
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<v Speaker 6>of however long any of them have been here, some

427
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<v Speaker 6>from day one. Some sure it's a short look, but

428
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<v Speaker 6>in the past month, six weeks. It allows us to

429
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<v Speaker 6>go to the bullpen a little sooner and and not

430
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<v Speaker 6>not lose anything. I mean, you know, sometimes when you

431
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<v Speaker 6>know a great deal of clubs, when you have to

432
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<v Speaker 6>go to the bullpen too early, and maybe you're not

433
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<v Speaker 6>going to a guy that's you know, a lockdown guy.

434
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<v Speaker 6>I feel like, you know, our guys, you know, we

435
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<v Speaker 6>can bring guys in in the fourth or fifth inning

436
00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:30.400
<v Speaker 6>that we could easily pitch into eighth inning. So yeah,

437
00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.440
<v Speaker 6>they've carried our pitching staff, you know, Brad Goldberg and

438
00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:38.440
<v Speaker 6>the bullpen has done a tremendous job and preparing those

439
00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:43.640
<v Speaker 6>guys and keeping those guys together, and and they themselves,

440
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<v Speaker 6>they're the true heroes. I mean, they have done it,

441
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<v Speaker 6>and you know we're we've ridden them and we will

442
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<v Speaker 6>continue to do so, I believe.

443
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<v Speaker 2>And when you look at at your job compared to

444
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<v Speaker 2>when you first started here back in the early two

445
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<v Speaker 2>thousands at the major league level, Joe Torre is your

446
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<v Speaker 2>assistant pitching, you're both pend coach Brad Goldberg, it seems

447
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:07.079
<v Speaker 2>like it it's a great benefit for you to have them.

448
00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>And what is that dynamic, like, how has that taken

449
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<v Speaker 2>this pitching staff to another level in terms of what

450
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<v Speaker 2>you can do for them?

451
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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think, first of all, there's no words that

452
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<v Speaker 6>I can use to describe how good those two guys

453
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<v Speaker 6>are and how hard they work and how much they care.

454
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<v Speaker 6>And I think people can lose sight of the fact

455
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<v Speaker 6>of how much they care because they're in this for

456
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<v Speaker 6>the right reasons. You know, this game is about the

457
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<v Speaker 6>players and the three of us and I think our

458
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:46.119
<v Speaker 6>entire staff for that matter. But we work to help

459
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<v Speaker 6>the players be the best it can be. And then

460
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<v Speaker 6>voting and myself with the pitching, you know, we work

461
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<v Speaker 6>hard to put each guy in situations where they can succeed,

462
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<v Speaker 6>because if they succeed, the teams succeeds. And with Brad

463
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<v Speaker 6>and Joe, you know, they loved this organization. They love

464
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<v Speaker 6>our players and and they're here to win, and they're

465
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<v Speaker 6>here to help these guys and and for me, uh,

466
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<v Speaker 6>there's so much information now as you mentioned that back

467
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<v Speaker 6>in two thousand and three, did just it did not exist.

468
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<v Speaker 6>If it did, it existed in a lab somewhere that

469
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<v Speaker 6>it wasn't being shared with us yet. And you know,

470
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<v Speaker 6>some of this stuff I have, I have worked to

471
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<v Speaker 6>learn and to get up to speed with. But these

472
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<v Speaker 6>guys having been exposed to it maybe a little earlier

473
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<v Speaker 6>than I was, because some of these things, in Brad's

474
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<v Speaker 6>case working at Ohio State as an assistant pitching coach,

475
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<v Speaker 6>you know some of these some of these things came

476
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<v Speaker 6>through the collegiate level. Uh, and you know these facilities

477
00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:01.079
<v Speaker 6>prior to it's almost like it was being and you know,

478
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<v Speaker 6>does it work? So he and Joe because in the

479
00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.880
<v Speaker 6>minor leagues as well, some things or you know, let's

480
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<v Speaker 6>utilize this and see how it works and see what

481
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<v Speaker 6>place it has. And you do it in the minor

482
00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:16.160
<v Speaker 6>leagues and then you know, things at work come to

483
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:18.440
<v Speaker 6>the major league level. Things that don't maybe they get

484
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:22.400
<v Speaker 6>set aside. And so these guys really fill a void

485
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:28.880
<v Speaker 6>for me because they're you know more, in tune with it,

486
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.920
<v Speaker 6>understand it a little better, and when I need help

487
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:34.079
<v Speaker 6>with it, they can put it in my language. And

488
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<v Speaker 6>that that's really really important. But you can't put a

489
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<v Speaker 6>value on what those two guys do and how much Listen,

490
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<v Speaker 6>I'll say how much they help me, but how much

491
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<v Speaker 6>they help the pictures and how they go about it

492
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:54.319
<v Speaker 6>and they're caring and what they're in it for separates them.

493
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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that minor League. Part of the equation is

494
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<v Speaker 2>that why so many young pictures at the in particular

495
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.640
<v Speaker 2>rookies who have come up and not missed a beat

496
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<v Speaker 2>up here. Is there a certain familiarity when they get

497
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<v Speaker 2>here that they already know what's going on from that

498
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<v Speaker 2>technology standpoint that they've been exposed to already.

499
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think so, because that doesn't change the technology.

500
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.839
<v Speaker 6>You know, when we look at track Man, when we

501
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<v Speaker 6>look at raps out, when we look at the different

502
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:26.759
<v Speaker 6>applications where we can look at pitch profiles and ballflight

503
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 6>and what's happening, those things don't change when you come here.

504
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 6>What changes is basically the hitters in the box are better,

505
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<v Speaker 6>and so basically then here it's a matter of putting

506
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<v Speaker 6>all the pieces together and learning. Okay, here's my stuff,

507
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 6>here's what I have. It's major league caliber. How do

508
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<v Speaker 6>I use it? How do I sequence it to get

509
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<v Speaker 6>major league hitters out? But the other aspects, in terms

510
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<v Speaker 6>of how we prepare and how we get them to

511
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 6>the best version of themselves, they're already familiar with.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Carl Willis joining us one, I have a little fun

513
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<v Speaker 2>with you. More than forty years in the game now,

514
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three, I believe Bristol, Tennessee was the first

515
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<v Speaker 2>professional clubhouse you walked into.

516
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<v Speaker 7>Do you remember much.

517
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>About the early days there of your pro career as

518
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<v Speaker 2>a pitcher?

519
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I remember, you know, I was drafted and I

520
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 6>was able to drive to Bristol. It was four hours

521
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:33.119
<v Speaker 6>from where I grew up, so I drove there, and

522
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<v Speaker 6>Bristol was a little town that you know, depending upon

523
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.880
<v Speaker 6>what side of the main street you were on, you

524
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 6>could be in Tennessee or you could be in Virginia.

525
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<v Speaker 6>But I think for me, the one thing I remember

526
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<v Speaker 6>more than anything else, and I've never forgotten this. I

527
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:54.240
<v Speaker 6>came from a small school UNC Wilmington, a mid major

528
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<v Speaker 6>that is one of the best mid majors in the

529
00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:01.559
<v Speaker 6>country today. But there were plays there from Texas and

530
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:06.319
<v Speaker 6>Arizona State and Michigan and you know, bigger schools, and

531
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<v Speaker 6>obviously we guys drafted higher than I was. And I

532
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<v Speaker 6>think the one thing I learned there, and you know,

533
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 6>I watched guys throw and throw their bullpens, and i'm

534
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 6>you know, I can do that. Maybe I didn't do

535
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 6>it on as big as stage as they did, but

536
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 6>I can do that, and I feel like it it

537
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 6>instilled in me. Everyone matters. It can be a high

538
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.240
<v Speaker 6>round pick. You can be a guy that's bounced around,

539
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 6>you can be a guy that's had you know, a

540
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 6>couple of surgeries. But if you have the uniform on,

541
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 6>then you deserve the attention from the coaching staff to

542
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 6>help you become the best you can be, not just

543
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 6>the guy who was the first pick of the draft

544
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 6>or the first round pick. And so that's that's something

545
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:01.160
<v Speaker 6>I feel like I learned as a player. I had

546
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 6>no idea was that were going to get into coaching

547
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 6>at that time. I just was trying to work to

548
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 6>stay in the game, you know, in the in the

549
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 6>minor leagues. But I remember the bus rides. I remember,

550
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 6>you know, the ballparks and the clubhouses, and certainly everywhere

551
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 6>did a great job. But it's nothing like being in

552
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:23.599
<v Speaker 6>the major leagues, not even like being in Buffalo. But

553
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's a journey and and everyone matters.

554
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I found a roster. Do you know you were the

555
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>only pitcher on that roster that year that made it

556
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>to the major leagues.

557
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 6>I did not know that.

558
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I know.

559
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 6>I remember we had a shortstop, Jim well Wander, who

560
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 6>played the major leagues. We had to catcher Ray Pelasio's

561
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 6>whose nephew Richie actually played with us. But but Ray

562
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 6>made it the major leagues. I believe with Kansas.

563
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 2>City, you three were the only ones, the only three.

564
00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 6>Okay, well, I'm good because I was afraid I was

565
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 6>gonna forget something. You got them, so yeah that you know,

566
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 6>that's something.

567
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.279
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, you know, it shows the odds though,

568
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>how hard it is.

569
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<v Speaker 6>Well it does, I mean, it truthfully does. And it

570
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.240
<v Speaker 6>shows how difficult it is.

571
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:14.799
<v Speaker 5>And and.

572
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 6>Again I'm thankful to the coaches that I had along

573
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 6>the way, who again was a twenty third round draft

574
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 6>pick who got one thousand dollars to play professional baseball.

575
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 6>You know, if I didn't make it, no one was

576
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 6>going to get in trouble. But yet those guys took

577
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 6>the time to work with each and every you know,

578
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 6>person on the roster, and I'm thankful for that.

579
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 2>And transitioning post playing career, How did you get the

580
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>coaching bug and who gave you that first opportunity?

581
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know that that story is a tad bit lengthy.

582
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:55.079
<v Speaker 6>I you know, in nineteen ninety I was fitting Triple

583
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<v Speaker 6>A actually with the Cleveland Indians in Colorado Springs, and

584
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<v Speaker 6>I felt like my career was basically at the end.

585
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 6>I wanted to stay in the game, and I started

586
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 6>asking questions and asking, you know, coaches if they thought

587
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 6>I could be a pitching coach or you know, stay

588
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 6>in the game in some aspect, and they were like, sure, yeah,

589
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.960
<v Speaker 6>but you know you're still playing whatever. You know, As

590
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 6>fate would have it, it was God's plan, I believe,

591
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 6>you know. The following year, I signed with the Twins,

592
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 6>and I can't explain to you everything or exactly what happened,

593
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 6>but I ended up, you know, pitching in a World

594
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.079
<v Speaker 6>Series and playing there for a little over four years.

595
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 6>And when my career did come to an end, because

596
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 6>I was absolutely horrible, I wanted to stay in the game.

597
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 6>But I also knew that I had asked an awful

598
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 6>lot of my wife. We had started our family, and

599
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, getting back into this game means, you know,

600
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 6>if you send out resumes, yeah, you may get a job.

601
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 6>I live in North Carolina. I may be asked to

602
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 6>go to Eugene, Oregon, or Vancouver, British Columbia, somewhere as

603
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 6>far away home, and I wasn't sure I really wanted

604
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 6>to do that. The only club that I really talked

605
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 6>to about potentially doing anything was the Twins because that

606
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 6>was the organization I had played the bulk of my

607
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.200
<v Speaker 6>career with and had some success and ended my career there.

608
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 6>But on the plane rides in Minnesota with the Twins,

609
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:35.720
<v Speaker 6>I sat with the radio announcer John Gordon. We played

610
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 6>Jim Rummy not for money, because I didn't want to

611
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 6>lose money in poker games. And a year after I'd

612
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 6>been out of baseball, Greg Booker was the pitching coach

613
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:53.279
<v Speaker 6>in Burlington and he left to become the bullpen coach

614
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 6>in San Diego in the Major Leagues. So Cleveland was

615
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:04.240
<v Speaker 6>looking for a league pitching coach and John Gordon's son,

616
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:10.359
<v Speaker 6>Gordy Goatowski was Mark Shapiro's administrative assistant. Here. He was

617
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 6>talking to his dad and John told Gordy, hey, you

618
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 6>should call Carl Willis. He lives thirty minutes from Burlington,

619
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.519
<v Speaker 6>you know, see if he would be interested. So he

620
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.000
<v Speaker 6>passed that along to Mark Shapiro. Mark made a couple

621
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 6>of calls to some folks he knew with the twins

622
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Speaker 6>who knew me, and one thing led to another. He

623
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:37.440
<v Speaker 6>called me and he wanted me to fly up and

624
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 6>talk about a minor league pitching coach job. And I

625
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 6>told him I needed to speak more with my wife,

626
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 6>and she said, listen, if they offer you a job,

627
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 6>you need to take it because you're miserable without baseball.

628
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.960
<v Speaker 6>So I flew up. It was not the greatest tis

629
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 6>my father was going through lung cancer at the time.

630
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Speaker 6>I flew up and sat down with Mark and Mike Brown,

631
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 6>who was the pitching coordinator at the time. We had

632
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 6>a really good conversation and I ended up being hired.

633
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 6>Mark told me I couldn't go to Burlington because he

634
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 6>had promised another pitching coach, Dave Miller, that position for

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<v Speaker 6>the following year. I would need to go to Watertown,

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<v Speaker 6>New York. The first year, and then he could have

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<v Speaker 6>me in Burlington the following year, and I just thought,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I really respected the fact that he would

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<v Speaker 6>hold true to his word to Dave Miller, and it

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<v Speaker 6>kind of gave me an insight of how this organization

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<v Speaker 6>works and how honest they are, and they don't go

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<v Speaker 6>back on their word, and they treat people, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the way people should be treated. So that was the beginning,

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<v Speaker 6>and I couldn't have asked for a better place to grow,

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<v Speaker 6>not only as a coach, but as a person because

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<v Speaker 6>I've learned continually continuing to learn each and every day

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<v Speaker 6>here from Chris Antonetti, from Mike Turnoff, from Paul Dolan,

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<v Speaker 6>the people that are here now and the people that

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<v Speaker 6>were here in the past. You know, I can talk

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<v Speaker 6>about again Mark Shapiro, and you know, I could certainly

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<v Speaker 6>talk about, you know, guys that I work with along

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<v Speaker 6>the way, Eric Wedge, And again I mentioned Dave Miller.

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<v Speaker 6>He was tremendous in helping me grow. They just help

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<v Speaker 6>you grow as a person as well. And I think

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<v Speaker 6>you can't lose the personal side of the relationships when

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<v Speaker 6>you're trying to help these guys and coach these guys

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm so appreciative of this organization forgiving me that

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity and helping me.

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<v Speaker 2>No one tells a better story than pitching coach Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Willis of the Cleveland Guardians. Stay with us. We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>some final thoughts after this on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Guardian's Weekly Jim Rosenhouse back with you

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<v Speaker 2>for our final segment of this week's show. Just a reminder,

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<v Speaker 2>from now until the weekend before Thanksgiving, which would be

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<v Speaker 2>November the twenty third, that's when our last show before

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<v Speaker 2>our break will be. Our show airs on WTAM in

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland at seven am on Saturday mornings. Check your local list.

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<v Speaker 2>If your local Guardians Radio Network affiliate carries our show,

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<v Speaker 2>you can hear it each weekend on the radio and

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<v Speaker 2>also in podcast form shortly after it airs live on

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<v Speaker 2>our flagship station in downtown Cleveland. So that's how you

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<v Speaker 2>can pick up our show each week. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>news and notes from the week gone by. Congratulations to

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians manager Steven Vote named the Sporting News Manager of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year in the American League. So congratulations to Steven Vote.

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<v Speaker 2>What a rookie season of managing it was for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Fielding Bible Awards are out. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different fielding awards, including the Gold Gloves. Those will come

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<v Speaker 2>later on during the off season, but the Fielding Bible

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<v Speaker 2>Awards are out, and as you would probably figure and expect,

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<v Speaker 2>second baseman Andre Cimenez the Fielding Bible Award winner for

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<v Speaker 2>all of baseball at second base, and pitcher Tanner Biby

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<v Speaker 2>won a Fielding Bible Award as well for his work

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<v Speaker 2>on the mound defensively. So congratulations to them. Will keep

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<v Speaker 2>you hosted on all the different award winners as the

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<v Speaker 2>off season rolls on. That's going to do it for

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<v Speaker 2>our show this week. Thanks as always to Brian Motsee

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<v Speaker 2>for helping to put together our show each and every

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<v Speaker 2>week until next week. This is Jim Rosenhouse reminding you

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<v Speaker 2>that you've been listening to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland

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