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Speaker 1: I hear you were in any dog house. There's no

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Speaker 1: Visitors are welcome? Exactly, it's an open house here at

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the Lord's house. No, I mean it's it is the

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lord's house, and it's it's the football lord's house. If

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you will, Sean, what did you make of k Why's

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comments earlier today? B YU gets to win on the road.

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It's a quad two win. They dropped two spots in

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the Ape pole. Ky doesn't know how poles work? Can

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kevin Young's admitted to it a couple of times.

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college basketball that still make him kind of scratch his head,

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if you will, in somebody, if he's still learning college basketball.

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the G League. One of those things I think is poles.

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last week. Yes, that included in eighty nine eighty four

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win over arts rival and Utah. Yes that was a loss.

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According to Vegas By, you were thirteen and a half

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fourteen and a half point favorites, depending on which sports

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book you looked at, So there's a lot kind of

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in there, and that one byuh fifteen and one. They're

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the country in Yukon, which is also sixteen to one.

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one lost team in the AP Top twenty five. I

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think this is all true right there. The issue is

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caught up against right now because it's really hard to

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keep them behind. For example, undefeated Nebraska. This is a

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team that was place of Sish, I think, fourteenth at

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the Big Ten this year and they're still on being

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of BYU. They're currently undefeated in the SEC. The SEC,

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which current which currently boasts as many ranked teams on

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wild and rockets environment. I think that was the most

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court advantage, or at least when it comes to home

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court advantage for the youth in Salt Lake City. I

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research on this, but I think Utah hasn't won in

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provo since like two thousand and two or somewhere something

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and a better win than some of the numbers. Say yes,

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great win on their resume, just because of the state

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be shocked as it turns into like a great win

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environment and the road aspect of it. I wouldn't be

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shocked if it maybe stays in that quad two round

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was trying to inspire the basketball team to win at

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a high level versus a very talented role coach BYU

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basketball team. The Let's Go Cougar's chance drowned him out

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a little bit. But it does seem that the BYU

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Speaker 2: What's I think it's been moving that direction for a

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couple of years now. I think Kilanie Sataki was a

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Kyle Whittingham, the dearly beloved now departed Kyle Winningham, may

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friends with Kilanie right in the first place. So I

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up on the Hill really helped sort of saw a

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lot of really hard emotions. So did taking a two

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kind of help. It helped both fan bases realizes what

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realized what they had in this rivalry game. So now

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twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six. Morgan Stally is

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the Kyle Whitningham junior. In a lot of ways, he

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former defensive coordinator in Klaudate Pataki. So these are two

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guys that know each other really well. They're very close

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friends off the field. They're going to want to beat

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Speaker 1: Sean walkerkasail dot com here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network,

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one of three nine ninety eight point three ESPN the Fan. Sean,

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any gems that you took away today from Ky? And

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Speaker 2: Just another I mean more, he was impressed with it

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think was incredibly impressive. I spent probably two thirds of

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offensive rebounding and then fourteen rebounds by Ricky Saunders, Like

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same number somewhere in there. They were right around the same,

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just on the offensive rebound side, like by just com

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getting a second chance after second chance after second chance,

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where Uh several Boa players did shoot particularly well. Uh

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giving up five or six to Uh to Rob Wright

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mediocre performances into very good performances because of that attention

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 1: BYU has eleven guys entering the portal leaving BYU and

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three additions thus far, Zach Yamouji offensive lineman, Kyler Casper

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in the portal right now? What else do they need?

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And give me some of your thoughts on these three

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players that they have acquired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think BAU has been very targeted in their

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portal acquisitions. The number one priority, It's very clear from

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the first couple of days, week or so of this

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portal season for BYU was on retention. It wasn't necessarily

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on acquisition. It was it was on keeping the guys

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that you had, the guys that won twelve games for

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the first time in twenty four years, the guys that

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are people's national champions shout out to the Pop Tarts Bowl.

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It was keeping them in tech I think that was

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their first priority, and I think they did a great

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job of it. There wasn't a starter against Georgia Tech

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that had eligibility remaining that is leaving BYU to this point, Like,

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think about that for a second. There wasn't a single

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starter that has eligibility remaining that started against Texas Tech

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that is leaving BYU. And that, by the way, doesn't

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include l J. Martin because he was hurt or coming

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off surgery for that Bowl game. Right, Like, yes, there

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are big holes on this roster that need to be filled.

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Somebody to replace Jack Kelly, whether it's internally or externally,

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that's going to be a massive hole to field. Their

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holes on the offense is line that I think they're

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starting to address a little bit right. You mentioned zach A.

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Maluci out of Stanford, the return missionary from Las Vegas

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Bishop Gorman. I think product out there. I think YU

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starting to attend to some of those needs. But it's

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very clear that their first priority was keeping the guys

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intact so that they could build off of this year

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and grow and progress and develop. As at the fact

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that this team didn't lose a defensive starter with eligibility

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of remaining the year that they lost their defensive coordinator

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and their defensive passing game coordinator and quarterbacks coach to Michigan.

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I think is pretty astounding, and it speaks a little

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bit to the culture and the level that Kawani Sutaki

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is building in Provo and and maybe helps explain why

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it was so important the BYU kept them, kept them

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away from Penn State's hands about a month or so

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ago to continue building this project at is alma mater. Right,

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I think that's the first part of your question, right,

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What's what's the second part? You mentioned the additions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you have three acquisitions, and you know, and Zach

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and then Kyler as well as Walker h then you know,

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and then the positions that they could be targeting going forward.

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It seems like Pockey Few is a target. Obviously, they're

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trying to go get Smith Snowden. You wonder Kate Uluave

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is another guy that's taking a visit, and I think

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most recent reports, maybe on three has reported that Kate

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could be a b yu Lean. I think it was

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Michigan or BYU that was fighting for him. I know

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U c l A is trying their best. Big Sodo

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coach them. Mccali could be U c l A bound

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as well.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, absolutely, I mean I think I think the

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targeted part of these new acquisitions is guys that replaced

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starters or big time minutes eaters that Uyu couldn't resigned,

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aka the seniors, the outgoing seniors, and one that have

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any eligibility remaining. So you look at you look at

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the guys that are committed that are in right now.

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Kyler Casper out of the former four star receiver out

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of Oregon. I think Yu kind of sees him as

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the type of guy that could replace the production or

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have the type of production that Chase Roberts did this year.

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They're both very similar receivers. Long, big bodied, Kyler's about

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six five six six two ten pounds. He's been hurt

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at Oregon and then so he's obviously going to have

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to learn to get healthy. He's going to have to

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get healthy and then learn to stay healthy. I think

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that may be his biggest issue when he makes the

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move over to BYU, and I think BYU sees a

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little bit of Chase robertson him. I think Walker Byans

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is a great replacement for what you're losing in Carts

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and Ryan Cars and Ryan who may have been I

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think we sung a lot of praises to him, and

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yet he was probably still a little bit unders for

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what he was able to do this year as a

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one year starting tight end at BYU, both as a

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pass catcher, touchdown score and also in the blocking game.

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I think Yu sees a lot of those things. Wal

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he's in same attributes in Walker Lions, the guy that

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they tried to get. They struck out on him twice

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if you remember, both out of high school and then

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when he came back from his church mission to Oslo, Norway.

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There's a little bit of scuttle that, like maybe the

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way you can make a run at him here now

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he winds up going to USC for two years. You know,

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played decently. I think last year I don't think maybe

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he wasn't quite as good as he's been or as

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some expected, and maybe that explains a little bit of

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why he's in the portal. But I think he's still

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a very good player six or four thirty four pounds,

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the kind of guy that you need both from a

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playing perspective and culturally. And then I think Zach Yamauchi,

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who twenty four seven Sports reported it has committed. He

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hasn't signed anything with BYU yet, but he has committed

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to BYU out of Stanford. I think YU sees him

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as a replacement for like rowl On, who awesomely a

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loose and type that interior offensive lineman again, big body,

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six fours, three undred twenty five that you really need

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up front after they showed up some of their tackles

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face by resigning guys like Andrew Gentry, so getting very

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targeted acquisitions, and I think that's kind of the direction

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to look for BYU and the portal is who did

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they lose, particularly to a lack of eligibility, who do

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they lose to the NFL draft for the most part,

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and who can they go to get him as a replacement.

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So I think the next big replacement, the next big

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domino that could fall from there is somebody to replace

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Jack Kelly. That's a lot of tackles, that's a lot

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of pass rush, that's a lot of tackles for lost

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in facts to replace. And I think that's probably the

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next big target that BYU fan should probably keep an

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eye on over the next couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Love that breakdown, Sean, what can you tease us with

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what are you gonna be writing about at KSL dot com,

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Any pieces we should be looking out for on the

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on the docket.

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Speaker 2: Well By, he's got a pretty big basketball game this

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weekend again, number fourteen Texas Tank. You guys may remember.

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I think a lot of guys are going to be

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on that matchup, both locally and nationally. But very sneakily,

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this basketball team hosts TCU on Wednesday and night have

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been a game that I think might be justice paus

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in some ways. This is a TCU game that they're

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on a two game side right now because they played

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you know, they're coming off of a loss to the

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number one ring team in the country in Arizona. But

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this was a team that was They were right there

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with teams like Michigan. They were right there teams like

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you Got. They were one of the early surprises in

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non conference play out of the Big twelve. And I

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think this could be a really really good game on Wednesdays.

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So there will be stuff leading up to that. As always,

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the transfer tracker is well go. You can find that

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over on sports dot CASL dot com. I've got links

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to that all over social media and definitely on the

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on the web. We'll be following that for a long time.

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And then can I do something non vy you for you?

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Speaker 1: Of course you can't.

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Speaker 2: It's we're do do you know you really? Then we're

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I think we're exactly thirty days from the Milan Courtina,

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Italy Winter Olympics. Thirty days out. Let's go jo Our

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Olympic covers is about to skyrocket in the Foo forts.

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We've got a bunch of Utahs that are going to

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be representing Temiosa in other countries. And actually just spend

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most of this morning sitting down with a few of

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those that we'll be scattering out over the next week

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or two over at KSL dot com. Some profiles on

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some local Olympians that I really think your audience may

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enjoy checking out.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Sean Walker. Nobody does it better than Sean

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Shard covers it all. We love hearing from him on

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the BYU front, but he's always dabbling in Utah preps,

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Olympic sports and obviously BYU athletics as well. Nobody does

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it better Sean Walker. Legs and gentlemen, thanks so much, brother.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys. Have a good one. And like I said,

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I'm just glad to be out of the doghouse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you were never in the dieas You're never in

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the doghouse, Sean is ridiculous, ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you were avoiding me. Then, I feel

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like you were avoiding me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean I'm not taking the trips

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to like basketball games, so I mean Ronald's Ronald's my

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main guy. Okay, Ronald's taking the baton. So you're hanging

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out with Ronald more than you're hanging out with me

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football season when we hang out, I'm trying to let

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Ronald be the hoops guy. For the love of all

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that's holy, I never in the doghouse. Much love, Sean Walker,

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about that Kida Uluave maybe a BYU Cougar. Who's in

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