Speaker 1: It's the worst bit we have on the show, but
Speaker 1: I guess it's part of the DNA of the show
Speaker 1: at this point. Our guys, Zach Harper NBA Daily Assist
Speaker 1: time on a Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Zach, Happy Wednesday, So how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm excellent? I heard the pit Bull music? How could
Speaker 3: you not be great? No?
Speaker 1: I just pictured so, like, are we talking? Is the
Speaker 1: head bobbing? Is it a full body dance? When you
Speaker 1: hear the bob.
Speaker 3: Full body, you gotta get up. I was sitting down.
Speaker 3: I got up. I started, you know, do a little
Speaker 3: move here, a little two step you.
Speaker 1: Have to Okay, Well, I'm glad it makes you happy, Zach.
Speaker 1: That's all that matters. That's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1: How's your Wednesday, man? What's going on in your world?
Speaker 3: You know, it's gloomy here. It's a little gloomy here.
Speaker 3: It's a little chilly hum and everything else is great.
Speaker 3: You know, it was hot earlier this week, so you know,
Speaker 3: just trying to go with the ups and downs of
Speaker 3: the weather here. But I hear it's nice in Salt
Speaker 3: Lake City, So I'm happy for you, guys.
Speaker 1: I was going to say this might be the only
Speaker 1: day all year long. I can actually tell you that
Speaker 1: it is seventy five and it is sunny, so in
Speaker 1: your face.
Speaker 3: Ach, yeah, it was ninety here on Monday, ninety.
Speaker 2: Goodness gracious, yeah, that's gracious. You fell out. You fell
Speaker 2: out of bracket?
Speaker 1: Are you you fell out a bracket for this INCA tournament?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And great question? Who did I have? I think
Speaker 3: I Houston over let's say, Michigan State. I think I'm
Speaker 3: Houston over Michigan State in the final.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right?
Speaker 3: Are you put a lot of thought into it?
Speaker 2: Did you have to for the athletic No, no.
Speaker 3: No, no, this was just for a friend group thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like I I I, you know, I follow
Speaker 3: college basketball mostly through maybe the top ten prospects throughout
Speaker 3: the season, and then I'll try to dive into the
Speaker 3: conference tournament if I'm not too busy, and then once
Speaker 3: once it's March madn It's like, once it's the tournament,
Speaker 3: I dive in as much as I can. Like I was,
Speaker 3: I was watching all day Thursday, all day Friday, I
Speaker 3: watched most of Saturday and most of Sunday. I'll be
Speaker 3: locked in the rest of the way and start scouting
Speaker 3: for you know, for all the draft prospects start that
Speaker 3: are there making pretty snap decisions, Like I made my
Speaker 3: entire decision on Reed Shepherd based on his horrible game
Speaker 3: against Oakland last year, and I still feel pretty confident
Speaker 3: about that. So I yeah, Like, I don't put a
Speaker 3: whole lot of thought into March badness. I just now enjoyed.
Speaker 3: I used to put a lot of thought into it.
Speaker 1: Well, when you're young and dumb, you think you have
Speaker 1: a chance to actually predict the outcome. And then after
Speaker 1: a few years, you just tell me if you get
Speaker 1: what I get this time of year, which is the
Speaker 1: text and the emails from the ants and the cousins,
Speaker 1: like hey, I've got to fill out a bracket, will
Speaker 1: you do it for me?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Even before like when I when I had first
Speaker 3: started getting into this in terms of like trying to
Speaker 3: become a basketball writer, I was working for an appellate
Speaker 3: court in Sacramento, and so I started a website and everything,
Speaker 3: and I was let into the judge's bracket pool with
Speaker 3: like some of the appell attorneys and some of the
Speaker 3: justices because they knew I was a basketball guy. So
Speaker 3: I would get like asked. They would ask me all
Speaker 3: the time, like, so, who do you like here? And
Speaker 3: what do you think here? As I was like in
Speaker 3: this pool and then since then, it's just I get
Speaker 3: it constantly.
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know that I've ever asked
Speaker 1: you this because I think I became familiar with your
Speaker 1: work via Twitter, like years ago. By years ago, I
Speaker 1: mean maybe sixteen fifteen, sixteen years ago, That's how I
Speaker 1: became familiar with you. And then I started reading your
Speaker 1: stuff and listening to your work. How did you break
Speaker 1: into this business? It's not easy to do it.
Speaker 3: No, it's not easy to do and I think a
Speaker 3: lot of it. I mean it was you know, hard
Speaker 3: work and I didn't give up. But it was also
Speaker 3: like just really good timing. I started. I was working
Speaker 3: for an a peblic court, Like I said, I started
Speaker 3: a website in July of or of June of two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven, was you know, kind of just got
Speaker 3: into Twitter a little bit in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine, started getting a little bit of
Speaker 3: notice through that. I got a little bit of notice
Speaker 3: through Jay Skeeths of the Basketball Jones at the time,
Speaker 3: now with no dunks and he was running like the
Speaker 3: Yahoo blog at the time, and so I got some
Speaker 3: notes from that. And then ESPN started the True Houp
Speaker 3: Network and they needed a Kings blogger, and the great
Speaker 3: Tom Ziller said no, and so then they came to
Speaker 3: meet because I was a second choice, and I started
Speaker 3: a website called Cowbell Kingdom for ESPN and it didn't
Speaker 3: pay anything, but it got you credentialed and you were
Speaker 3: affiliated with ESPN. And they started a nightly chat called
Speaker 3: the Daily Dime Live, and they would invite the bloggers
Speaker 3: of the teams that night who were playing to come
Speaker 3: chat on ESPN dot com. And I just started showing
Speaker 3: up even when the Kings weren't weren't playing, and I
Speaker 3: realized quickly, oh, the editors of ESPN dot com don't
Speaker 3: want to run this chat, and so I just kept
Speaker 3: showing up. I started running the chat kind of by default,
Speaker 3: and then I did it through the playoffs of the
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine twenty ten season, and then they
Speaker 3: offered me a job to run the tch chat full time,
Speaker 3: and that was my foot in the door.
Speaker 2: Wait are you tell me you didn't manifest this.
Speaker 3: Uh, well, obviously I had like manifestation boards and vision boards.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, y did you start your blog when
Speaker 1: it was the summer solstice?
Speaker 3: Of course? Okay, well, I mean yeah, which is which
Speaker 3: everyone obviously knows, is you know, June whatever.
Speaker 1: Dude, your mercury and retrograde out outro as the kids
Speaker 1: would say it sent me last week.
Speaker 2: There was perfect timing. It was well done, kids sent you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, of course, yeah, that's that's what I
Speaker 3: say too, because I'm young.
Speaker 1: No, I know, I know you and I both while
Speaker 1: we're in the space of collegiate prospects and we are
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City where the Jazz are an unserious
Speaker 1: basketball team, tell our listeners what you believe Cooper Flag
Speaker 1: will be in the NBA if everything goes to plan,
Speaker 1: stays healthy, and he becomes fully developed.
Speaker 2: What does that look like, Zach Oh, that's a really.
Speaker 3: Good question, because I think right now, I look at
Speaker 3: him as like a white Shawn Marrin with a better
Speaker 3: jump shot, right which I think is an excellent player.
Speaker 3: I don't think he has a very good handle, and
Speaker 3: I think that kind of affects how he gets into
Speaker 3: his his pull up jumpers and some of his attack
Speaker 3: off the dribble. I think it creates some some turnover
Speaker 3: problems and then the games. But also like he's super young,
Speaker 3: so he has plenty of time to work on the
Speaker 3: handle and and and fix that stuff. I think the
Speaker 3: rest of his game is really good. I think his
Speaker 3: instincts are great. He's a great defender, great defensive instincts,
Speaker 3: great motor, all that stuff. So I like if he
Speaker 3: if he develops the handle, if he develops all that,
Speaker 3: I don't know, like he kind of reminds me of
Speaker 3: at that point, like maybe a little bit taller Paul
Speaker 3: George like that, like maybe that. I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's a great comp but I think that type of player.
Speaker 3: Like I don't think he's going to be this ultimate
Speaker 3: franchise changer, right. I don't think he's like a Zion
Speaker 3: if Zion was healthy. I don't think he's a Wemby.
Speaker 3: But I think he's an awesome player. Like I think
Speaker 3: he's a like a second best player on a great team.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, interesting, that's an interesting take on it. Do
Speaker 1: you do hear and you tell me if you hear this.
Speaker 1: I feel like I hear that this is maybe not
Speaker 1: Lebron Webbin Yamba, but maybe just right there, you know,
Speaker 1: not on that level, but maybe half a level below,
Speaker 1: because it feels like the Jazz are one of I
Speaker 1: don't know, eight nine, ten teams and we're going to
Speaker 1: get there in a moment that clearly have sacrificed the
Speaker 1: intent of winning with the possibility of landing him. Are
Speaker 1: you hearing from other people that they're a little bit
Speaker 1: higher on him than you seem to be?
Speaker 2: Is that fair?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I think there are plenty of people
Speaker 3: that think he's like a franchise changer. I just think
Speaker 3: that's asking a lot out of any prospects, right And
Speaker 3: I I mean, he's on a loaded duke team, right,
Speaker 3: Like if he was doing this on a team that
Speaker 3: isn't nearly as talented as what he's playing. And I'm
Speaker 3: not saying like he's like any of his play isn't dominant,
Speaker 3: isn't work, like he's the awesome. He's been as good
Speaker 3: as advertised, if not better. I just think it's tough
Speaker 3: to judge in that way, like he's he's his team
Speaker 3: is so good and he's been so good. I don't
Speaker 3: know where you say that's him versus that's just the
Speaker 3: program in general and the team in general, and so like,
Speaker 3: I don't know how he's going to create a shot
Speaker 3: at the NBA level consistently. And if he isn't like
Speaker 3: an easy natural score at the NBA level, then then
Speaker 3: can you be that guy that's like the number one guy?
Speaker 3: I just I don't know if that's possible. And so
Speaker 3: I I think he's going to be great. I think
Speaker 3: he's going to be like if he's Paul George without
Speaker 3: the corniness and without the podcast, that's a great player,
Speaker 3: like and without the the fear of Joe Ingles and
Speaker 3: in the game situation, like, that's a great player. Like
Speaker 3: maybe he's what Paul George should have ended up being.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a great player.
Speaker 1: Now that and that's actually a good pull because once
Speaker 1: upon a time, man, I don't know, maybe for the
Speaker 1: final two years he was healthy in Indiana, we talked
Speaker 1: about Paul George as if he was one of the
Speaker 1: top two or three players in the league.
Speaker 3: We did, yeah, yeah, absolutely, like he was, like he
Speaker 3: was he was one of those guys. He got the
Speaker 3: kind of the confirmation from Lebron in those series with
Speaker 3: Indian and Miami. I mean, he was, he was one
Speaker 3: of those guys. And and he's and again he still
Speaker 3: had a great career. He's a Hall of Famer like
Speaker 3: all that stuff, right, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 3: pretend he's not great, but you don't look at him
Speaker 3: as like the guy on a number one team, right,
Speaker 3: And I just I just think it's asking a lot,
Speaker 3: like you want to know. Here's if I were, if
Speaker 3: I were not a coward, I would start saying, maluwatch
Speaker 3: is the guy I think is gonna be the best
Speaker 3: mess in the class. Really, I I don't know what
Speaker 3: it is about him. I think like that's like my
Speaker 3: hottest take with knowing that Cooper flag is most likely
Speaker 3: going to be it. But if I hadn't the number
Speaker 3: two pick, I would risk it on him. You're not awesome.
Speaker 1: You're not doing like the hipster media thing like when
Speaker 1: Women Yama was coming out where people back here kind
Speaker 1: like scoot you like, don't do that.
Speaker 2: No okay, no no.
Speaker 3: No no no no no no. Try. If I had
Speaker 3: the number one pick, I would take Cooper right like
Speaker 3: like outright. But if I had the number two pick,
Speaker 3: as good as Dylan Harper looks, you know, Ace Bailey's
Speaker 3: kind of everyone's cooled off on him, I think is
Speaker 3: like he's barely played any basketball. He has incredible defensive instincts,
Speaker 3: he has a great touch offensively, he knows what he's like.
Speaker 3: He just knows what he's doing even though he hasn't
Speaker 3: hasn't played, and he's a great defensive presence. Like I
Speaker 3: just there there. I don't I'm not saying he's gonna
Speaker 3: be this, but like there are some real like in
Speaker 3: beat Joel Embiid vibes with the with just the similar
Speaker 3: story and and he's ahead of what any big man
Speaker 3: should be just in terms of coordination within the game
Speaker 3: and and knowing how to play with how little experience
Speaker 3: he has. But I just I would risk it on
Speaker 3: him with number two.
Speaker 2: Very interesting, all right.
Speaker 1: I know it's been a number of years since you
Speaker 1: covered the Kings and have been in Sacramento period, So
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know Wes Wilcox, but I
Speaker 1: will kick the tires with you on a story that
Speaker 1: has a local flavor, with Wes Wilcox coming to the
Speaker 1: University of Utah as their new general manager via the
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings, which was his most recent job as the
Speaker 1: assistant GM there. He was the GM of the Hawks
Speaker 1: for three years and then prior to that was the
Speaker 1: assistant general manager. He hired Alex Jensen when Wes was
Speaker 1: in Cleveland running the G League team to coach the
Speaker 1: Canton Charge and that's where Alex was G League Coach
Speaker 1: of the Year and they won the G League championship.
Speaker 1: So that's the origin story of their relationship. But he
Speaker 1: now becomes the highest ranking city in NBA front office
Speaker 1: person to take a college job. Zach, what do you
Speaker 1: make of this?
Speaker 3: Well, also, don't forget he and I have done some
Speaker 3: radio shows together back when he was on Serious Sex
Speaker 3: on NBA radio.
Speaker 2: That's that was I should have led with that. That's
Speaker 2: on me.
Speaker 3: That's obviously the big part of the resume. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: Wes is great, Like I don't I don't really know Wes.
Speaker 3: I've done a couple of couple of things with him
Speaker 3: work wise, but he's a I mean, he's a super
Speaker 3: smart dude. Like he he knows the game. It doesn't
Speaker 3: surprise me. It doesn't surprise me that he's he's leaving
Speaker 3: Sacramento because this is gonna shock you there there might
Speaker 3: not be a whole lot of stability within that organization. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like there might like there just might not be It
Speaker 3: might not be the most well run organization lately after
Speaker 3: like a year of where it looked promising. So you know,
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't fully know what happened
Speaker 3: there with him enough to to feel comfortable saying that
Speaker 3: like nothing bad, Like I just think you know, that
Speaker 3: just influences change constantly within that organization when they shouldn't.
Speaker 3: And and so I think it's smart for him to
Speaker 3: to be to be out of there. It's an interesting
Speaker 3: position to go from there to to now this in
Speaker 3: vogue role of general manager of a of a college program.
Speaker 3: You know, we we obviously saw WoT do we? So
Speaker 3: Steph Curry kind of is doing it with Davidson. I
Speaker 3: think now Wes is doing it. I think it's going
Speaker 3: to be more of a trend in the next like
Speaker 3: year or two than than people realize. Like, I think
Speaker 3: this is going to be a very with all the
Speaker 3: money being thrown around in college sports like above board. Now,
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a very lucrative, sought
Speaker 3: after position. And I think it's smart of him to
Speaker 3: get in early.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, since you do have some experience
Speaker 1: with him, is he analytic driven?
Speaker 2: Is he does he have a back?
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, yeah, analytic driven like and just very
Speaker 3: just very on it, like just like knows the game,
Speaker 3: knows the analytics like yeah, but like very analytics driven.
Speaker 3: So nerd not well, I mean nerd ish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm not that that is a term of endearment,
Speaker 1: you know, like nerds are running pro basketball, like I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not knocking on him. I wish I was more
Speaker 1: of a nerd. I just can't shake how cool I am, Zach.
Speaker 2: It's a problem.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's our that's our cross to bear round.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you and I cut from the same cloth,
Speaker 2: the coolest.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, So how can I talk to you about the
Speaker 1: new narrative that's going on in the market about hey,
Speaker 1: this is not a rebuild because it's been a three
Speaker 1: year tear teardown.
Speaker 3: Yeah you told me that last week and that's still
Speaker 3: that's still Wow. What a what an interesting what an
Speaker 3: interesting an interesting way it's been that I.
Speaker 1: Really don't know if I'm more like embarrassed for the
Speaker 1: messenger or the people that are like, oh totally, this
Speaker 1: has been a tear down.
Speaker 2: Like there are people that are buying it, like eating up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that I mean you want to you want
Speaker 3: to think the like you want to think the best
Speaker 3: in terms of hope. Right, Like I understand wanting to
Speaker 3: buy it because you if this is technically year three
Speaker 3: of the rebuild, Oh oh, that's not great, right, that's
Speaker 3: not that's not amazing when you get doubled up in
Speaker 3: the second half last night, And I mean I tuned
Speaker 3: into like maybe four minutes of that third quarter and thought,
Speaker 3: I can't do this. I got better things to do.
Speaker 3: This is not how I'm spending the rest of my night.
Speaker 3: I will watch literally anything else. And and then seeing
Speaker 3: Will Hardy's comments after the game, I thought, oh maybe
Speaker 3: I should have watched that. Now it seems even better
Speaker 3: than what I thought. Yeah, Like I understand wanting to
Speaker 3: believe it. I just don't know how you can honestly
Speaker 3: believe it. Like at a certain point, the reality has
Speaker 3: to set it in of like no, like you like
Speaker 3: the second you trade Gobert and Mitchell, that's the rebuild,
Speaker 3: no matter how like, Okay, you won thirty games and
Speaker 3: like in those couple of years, like okay, great, that
Speaker 3: doesn't mean it wasn't a rebuild.
Speaker 2: Now, it's just like some of the stuff. You know,
Speaker 2: who do you think you're talking to? Like I can remember.
Speaker 1: I think it was the second year after they traded
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Gobert and year two I had somebody down
Speaker 1: there say, hey, we were trying to tank, but Will
Speaker 1: Will's too good.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, who coaches the Spurs?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Like what what are you talking about? Like your coach
Speaker 1: is too good for you to tank? Who coaches san Antonio?
Speaker 1: Give me a break?
Speaker 3: Oh that bum Greg Popovitch doesn't know how to coach?
Speaker 1: Geez, I will say, like, Will has had a couple
Speaker 1: of post games where you do get a glimpse into.
Speaker 2: How frustrated he might be. And I don't blame him.
Speaker 1: Man, Like last night when he decided to take his
Speaker 1: team to task, I was like, good for you, because
Speaker 1: if I'm Will Hardy, I'm over this. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: Yeah you got. I mean, look, you know what the
Speaker 3: deal is, right, you know? The goal is to lose games,
Speaker 3: to put yourself in a position to get the number
Speaker 3: one pick and to end up with Cooper Flag and
Speaker 3: and have like your guy moving forward. That is the
Speaker 3: point of the rebuild, is to get the guy. And
Speaker 3: if you believe Cooper Flag is the guy, then mission accomplished. Right,
Speaker 3: So he like he's not unaware, but like, you gotta
Speaker 3: do it better than this, right, You got to do
Speaker 3: it more competitively than this. Even the Wizards are playing
Speaker 3: competitive basketball right now. Yeah, the Wizards. The Wizards are
Speaker 3: making this look better. That can't but you can't make it.
Speaker 3: You can't look worse than the Wizards in this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, that should not be the area you find yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pose the question that I asked. I've asked
Speaker 1: your buddy Tom Haberstrow to McMahon stop by, and Tom
Speaker 1: brought up because we're talking about the tanking and how
Speaker 1: there's like a third of the league that's not even
Speaker 1: trying and it makes watching pro basketball, NBA basketball just unbearable.
Speaker 1: And Tom brought up the potential, like in the NFL,
Speaker 1: we've got John l Wave, got Eli Manning, and then
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders is kind of floating out of the idea
Speaker 1: that if he doesn't like Worship Doors draft that he
Speaker 1: might get involved. And Tom's like, that might happen in
Speaker 1: the NBA at some point where a prospect is high
Speaker 1: speed head to a dead end situation. If you're Cooper
Speaker 1: Flag's dad, if you're his agent, if you're his reps,
Speaker 1: and I say, okay, your options are Utah, New Orleans, Washington, Charlotte.
Speaker 2: I'll give you those four. Where would you want your
Speaker 2: kid to land? And why?
Speaker 3: Man, that's because if you look at like I look
Speaker 3: at Charlotte, and I would just I mean, I think
Speaker 3: you have to look at Charlotte a little bit and
Speaker 3: be like, all right, they did just get new ownership
Speaker 3: and new like new everything, right, new coach, new management,
Speaker 3: new ownership. Maybe that'll be better. You look at Washington,
Speaker 3: I look at like ted leonsis and running that. I'd
Speaker 3: be like, man, not my circus, not my problem. I
Speaker 3: don't want a part of that, right, Like I'm good.
Speaker 3: You look at you look at Utah or New Orleans,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, all right, I like a lot of
Speaker 3: things there, but man, everybody gets hurt. Like everybody gets hurt.
Speaker 3: And I don't believe in like all that cosmic stuff
Speaker 3: obviously outside of like crystals and mercury and retrograde that's
Speaker 3: deeply personal to us. But but like I wouldn't want
Speaker 3: to play with my career there, just in case, just
Speaker 3: in case that stuff's real. And then Utah like yeah,
Speaker 3: like you know, no offense to the market, Like it's
Speaker 3: not an attractive market. But at least historically out of
Speaker 3: all four of those teams, that's the most well run organization.
Speaker 3: You see justin Vannik, you see Danny Ames like there's
Speaker 3: competency on the horizon, Like I think I would have
Speaker 3: to go to have to pick Utah and just do
Speaker 3: like that that's where I need to be just to
Speaker 3: have a chance at like playing the basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, well, can coach I really do.
Speaker 1: I want to see him with a good roster at
Speaker 1: his disposal, all right before I say you lose the
Speaker 1: theme on the show. Tommy wrote about it for Yahoo,
Speaker 1: and Tim Bontemps and Pelton wrote about it for ESPN.
Speaker 1: Literally a third of the league is unserious about winning.
Speaker 1: Literally ten teams are just like, we don't give a
Speaker 1: rip about what happens tonight.
Speaker 2: I don't care what the league says.
Speaker 1: And yes I know it's the number seventy two billion
Speaker 1: for the new TV deal.
Speaker 2: This sucks.
Speaker 1: And watching the NCAA Tournament has been such a great
Speaker 1: reminder of watching basketball when people really care about it.
Speaker 1: Is there a solution that you've heard that you think
Speaker 1: actually makes sense to kurtail this or is this just
Speaker 1: the deal in perpetuity.
Speaker 3: No, there's not a there's not an idea I've I've
Speaker 3: heard that that curves this. I think I think it
Speaker 3: just has to be a perfect storm of like there
Speaker 3: are fewer injuries, maybe there's a bad draft class, you know,
Speaker 3: like maybe that's like that helps more teams are in
Speaker 3: the hunt for a playing tournament and you don't have
Speaker 3: dominant teams at the top of the conferences like in
Speaker 3: the way that we see Like I don't know, I
Speaker 3: really don't know, but it's it's not it's not. I
Speaker 3: think the criticism of the product for most of this
Speaker 3: season within like just the public conversation has been bs.
Speaker 3: Like I just think it's been a lazy, unfounded conversation. Lately,
Speaker 3: it's rough. Man, it's like it's it's a bad product.
Speaker 3: The last couple of weeks and you know, Eric Kreen
Speaker 3: wrote about it for The Athletic maybe a couple of
Speaker 3: days ago. He covers the Raptors and does a great
Speaker 3: job and he's like, hey, this is this is gross,
Speaker 3: Like this is not good and I'm with them. I'm
Speaker 3: with Tom like I'm uh, it's it's something I don't
Speaker 3: know how you fix. But can you really get by?
Speaker 3: Like are they hoping that march madness is just a
Speaker 3: distraction during this time? They still get in the revenue
Speaker 3: And and all right, we'll get to the plane tournament
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks. Like that can't be the plan.
Speaker 2: It's rough, it is, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, I'll set you loose, and I wish
Speaker 1: you could enjoy sunshine, but uh, I guess we're spoiled
Speaker 1: here in Salt Lake.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll put on my vision board.
Speaker 2: Thanks, buddy, have a good one.
Speaker 1: Zach Harper from the Athletic I always appreciate his time.
Speaker 2: Vision board. Here's it. I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Fill it up with some positive thought.
Speaker 1: No, you're supposed to hang pictures of it and manifest
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to exist with the feeling as if
Speaker 1: it's already happened. Right because Porter what is for you
Speaker 1: will always flow to you.
Speaker 2: Write that down.
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Speaker 2: The Salt Lake Bees have a new hive.
Speaker 1: Join us for opening week April the eighth through the thirteenth,
Speaker 1: as we kick off our inaugural season at the ballpark
Speaker 1: at America First Square in South Jordan.
Speaker 2: Every game will feature exciting giveaways.
Speaker 1: Don't miss out experience the thrill of America's favorite pastime
Speaker 1: and join us this season for professional baseball, family friendly
Speaker 1: entertainment and unforgettable moments. Giveaways include Pennet's t shirts, beanies
Speaker 1: and more on every night of the first home stand.
Speaker 1: Single game tickets are on sale now. Visit sobs dot
Speaker 1: com for more information. This season, the Bees will feature
Speaker 1: fireworks and Drummond Nights throughout the season, Brunch every Sunday
Speaker 1: home game, Bark in the Park for nine games, which
Speaker 1: means you can bring your dog to the game. Don't
Speaker 1: get weird, they got a Superman night, Cowboy theme night.
Speaker 1: The ballpark in America First Square is designed for year
Speaker 1: long use. Coming soon, a brand new Bees team store
Speaker 1: will be open all year. The site will also have
Speaker 1: a megaplex theater that includes movies, bowling, arcade and dining restaurants,
Speaker 1: and a concert stage and Salt Lake Bees are dedicated
Speaker 1: to providing a premium experience with wallet friendly ticket pricingly
Speaker 1: financed stadium has a capacity of eight thousand fans and
Speaker 1: offers open lawn, premium club, and field level seating options.