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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It is time for total basis.

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It is Thursday, Tokyo. Brandon's back. We've got two games

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to talk about. We only had one game to talk

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about yesterday, but we kind of were both in agreement

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on the over and that game soared over. I think

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we had seventeen runs in total. I ended up shutting

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it off. I mean I didn't have any action anyway

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with Brian Leonard. I know you were were on the

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over in some capacity in that game.

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Speaker 2: So welcome in. Talk talk about your day yesterday for

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a minute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been a really nice around sixteen and four

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now four and oh yesterday, the only thing I had

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to sweat was a small play on the Mariners team

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total over. You had two in the first I thought

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they're going to get more, and then I had to

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wait all the way to the I think believe the

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eighth to get the other two. But yeah, we had

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the over, We had the football game, the blow out

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in the football game, we had winner and underdog winner

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in hockey on the Detroit Red Wings. So yeah, as

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they say in the card, very well, right now, how.

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Speaker 2: Was your dinner TV?

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Speaker 4: It was good. I had a good dinner Unfortunately, I'm

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not going to be on the show tomorrow either because

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I have another dinner party that I have to go to.

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But you know all these dinner parties. Sorry, anyways, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Here to popular I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it sucks eating nice food at nice restaurants

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in Tokyo. But I won my five percent play yesterday.

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I was on the Blue Jays and so I was

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pretty happy about that result. That was a rocking chair win,

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as they say, as you guys were talking about before

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the game, you guys had the over. So it looks

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like we all did all right in MLB yesterday. So yeah,

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let's talk about today.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say, you know, for people that don't know,

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I'm sure most of the guests know at this point,

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but like Tokyo, Brandon is actually in Tokyo.

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Speaker 2: He's doing the show at night.

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Speaker 1: I applaud you for being able to do this all

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year at night no issues, because I know, like there's

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no way I would be able to do a show

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five days a week at the time that you do

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it without having.

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Speaker 2: Like constant conflicts. You know of things to do, so

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not a problem.

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Speaker 4: Would you appreciate I don't have much of a social life, so.

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Speaker 1: I don't really either, but like, it's just so much

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harder to do things that at night. Like I've tried

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to do nighttime like shows before, you know, with with

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Gabe sports grad like stuff like that, and it's just

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like much much more difficult.

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Speaker 2: So props to you for being able to do this

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all year.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give our show a little retweet here

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as folks file in, and uh, it's it's awesome that

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we still have people. It's October sixteenth and we still

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got people showing up to hear us talk Baseball. We're

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gonna ride this out right through the World Series and

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two games today, So let's start in the National League.

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Speaker 2: We'll go to Brian Leonard Brewers Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: This is the this this was the series where we

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kind of talked yesterday and we said, well, if there

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was a team that's probably going to get back into

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it might be.

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Speaker 2: The Blue Jays.

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Speaker 1: That seems to be the team that the series that

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maybe has a little bit more juice from a you know,

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kind of being able to provide us with some drama

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type series that being set.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that you even with.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the Brewers are an underdog today, Brian,

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Are you writing this team off or are they getting swept?

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Speaker 2: Do they have any chance here? In your opinion?

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Speaker 3: I think this is the game that they can grab.

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If they lose here, they may be written off. Right now.

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be the starter or if they're going to bring somebody

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else into open and then he comes in. But all

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hands on deck since they had yesterday off the current

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line and they're going against Alaska Glass Now for the Dodgers,

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current line looks to be around the one ninety range,

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total seven and a half, slightly to the over. The

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reason why I'm somewhat interested in Milwaukee here is I'd

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like the veteran pitcher going today. I don't know how

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long Quentana's gonna go, but keep in mind he hasn't

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pitched in a while, and that's my only concern here.

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But I do like the Milwaukee bullpen. They've gone with

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bullpen games before and they've had a lot of success. Really,

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per Alton and Priests are really the only two that

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they've used in the playoffs for the most part. But

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the reason why I think they've got a chance here

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is glass Now is either really good or he struggles.

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starters in this game, and that is a concern when

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you take a look at glass Now on the season

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expected one point people looked really good last time out,

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but his chase rate remains in the first percentile, walk

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rate in the percent So he's going to put some

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batters on and that's been the problem with Milwaukee in

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this series so far. They have not had many batters on.

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or something like that the first two games of the series.

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against glass Now, and he's not a guy that goes

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very long. He's had eighteen starts ninety innings, so we're

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probably looking at four to five innings of glass Now,

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no more than that, probably, which exposes the Dodgers' bullpen.

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It's better than it was earlier this year, but it's

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still the weakness of the team. So the way I'm

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looking at it as of right now, and I literally

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just rolled out of bed right before the game, so

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I haven't read anything overnight since I've gone to bed.

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So right now I'm looking for a way to play

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on the Brewers. I don't know if it'll be a

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team total or what it'll be, but I think there's

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value there, and it's a lot of these underdogs haven't

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had a lot of value. I think might be something

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on the Browers here.

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Speaker 4: It seems like Dave Roberts learned his lesson from game one,

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leaving Yoummoto in the entire game in game two, so

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he must have caught a lot of flak for that,

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and he learned his lesson, it seems, so hopefully he

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can not make any more stupid decisions and almost lose

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the game for his uber talented team. If you look,

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I don't, Brian. I'm not sure why you think glass

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now will get pulled early. He went six innings in

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his last start against Philly. But you're right, he's either

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really good or really bad. So if he starts to

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show signs of a weakness there, yeah, they might give

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him a quick cook. But if he's handling, handling him

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pretty well, I think given how Dave Roberts handled Game two.

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I think he'll leave him in for six innings here.

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I mean there's a chance if he pitches well. Now,

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Glass Now against the Brewers has a one forty one

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hour average against in a five to ten OPS, which

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is really good numbers. And at home he's got a

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two seven to seven ERA compared to a four oh

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eight e RA in the Roads. So I think last

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night will be pretty solid here. And Kintana, he's got

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decent numbers against the Dodgers, but I'm just not sure

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how many of those numbers came in the latter part

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of his career, or when he was a met or

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or before that. So his last game he went only

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three innings. The game before that he went only four innings.

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you like the Brewers bullpen against LA, then yeah, they

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would be a good a good side to back here.

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I think last now, I think the Brewers team total

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under in the first five might be a decent play.

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I haven't done it yet because under one and a

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half is so hard to play in MLB. I'm looping

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a blast boom, your bet is dead. So I don't

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know if I'll play it or not, but uh, that

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would be the way I would go if I were to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So a couple couple thoughts here in terms of, like,

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you know, I was on the Brewers in game two,

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and part of my handicap. The frustrating thing for me

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was that part of my handicap I never had it.

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Yamamodo went the distance. So kind of going back to

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a tokyo, Brandon was saying, he, yeah, I don't even think.

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I don't think Roberts really had had a tough choice

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to make it that game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was just in cruise control. He had

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Speaker 1: There, there was like a his pitch count was down there,

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there was virtually Yeah. But here's the here's the let

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me explain to you the difference between those two Snell

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was at one hundred and three pitches going into the

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ninth inning in a one nothing game that became a

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two nothing game. So if you're Roberts, you're looking at

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the ninth and saying, Okay, it's getting close. If he doesn't,

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if he let's say he puts.

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Speaker 2: The first guy on this guy on.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna have to bring probably his his his.

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I think his mindset was, well, I want to bring

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Sasaki in this game anyway. This is a young, younger

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guy that's had a tough time with his confidence. He's

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he's gotten down on himself at some point, you know,

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situation inherited runners, like I want to give him the

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clean inning. And I think the second run in Game

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one sort of gave Roberts the like cushion to be like,

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all right, now I have a two run lead. I'm

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comfortable bringing him into the game with a two run lead,

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in the first in Game one, I didn't mind that.

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I don't think either decision is the wrong decision there.

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Game two is it was a no brainer, ya, i'mamotos cruising.

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to one lead, there's absolutely no reason to take him out.

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don't think last now is gonna like he's certainly not

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throwing the whole game, and I don't mind that. Like,

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dart TV.

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Speaker 2: What'd you say? It went six innings. I'm just trying

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to get it up here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was six.

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Speaker 3: Run less than two in the one before that though.

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Speaker 2: In the playoff. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm kind of with Brian in the respect that

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like Glass now still shows signs of you know, he

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he's still He's still a guy that I think has

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some some cracks at this point. So this is another

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guy We've talked about a couple yesterday and Bieber and

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George Kirby. This is another guy that had to work

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around a mid season injury. Right, he was hurt, he

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got he went down early in the season, had to

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go and basically shut it down rehab an injury in

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the middle of this of the season.

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Speaker 2: And and very like George Kirby.

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Speaker 1: Esque, he's had you know, he's not getting like he's

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had trouble in departments where when Tyler Glasnew is on,

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you're never seeing those.

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Speaker 2: Issues for him.

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Speaker 1: So so you know you talk about like bottom seven

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percent of major League baseball and walk right like, when

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Tyler Glasnew is normal, is not injured, is his usual self,

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in the bottom one percent in chase rate, right, Like,

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he's gonna get far more swing and miss when he's on.

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which i've i've here here, they go like, yeah, you know,

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they were pretty good, three point one ninety one point one,

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zero whip. But I'll say the same thing I said

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about Shane Bieber yesterday, his saying, you know, his inning

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sample size was only ninety innings, right, ninety point one innings,

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Speaker 2: Oh my my gut is saying.

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Speaker 1: With with some of the categories he's struggling in, maybe

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not right, Like, I don't think you can.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can just put.

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Speaker 1: Guys on base like that or like if you're not

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strikeout rate is still very good, but he's not getting

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a ton of swing and miss, which means he's pretty

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effective in the zone.

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Speaker 2: So that's I guess a good That would be a

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check mark in the in the good column for Glass

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now for sure.

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Speaker 1: But like I'll go back to the kind of our

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conversation the last couple of days, Brian, where like the

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Brewers are scrappy team.

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Speaker 2: I think if, like, if you've got to work in the.

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Speaker 1: Zone, which is really what Glass now is going to

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probably have to do here, you gotta think that they

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can generate a little more offense than they could have

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off of Snell and Yamamoto, who were just so good

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that they didn't even have a chance, right, Like, how

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many like I know you sort of said it, what

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how many base runners have the Brewers had the last

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in the first two games of this series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe they had just one without a walk

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and game game one in three and one walk maybe

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the other game. So it's been, uh, it's been uh

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tough to get the base runners on and uh and

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do what they do best. I think they'll have a

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little bit more success there against the last. Now, No,

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he's an excellent pitcher, no doubt about it, but he's

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not pitching as well as the other two guys, and

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so it's a little bit of a break there. And

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obviously Milwaukee doesn't have their starters going up per Altus

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as I expected. He's struggled a little bit in the playoffs.

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But if Malwaukee's got shot in any game, this would

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be the one. And right now, with the Doctors up to.

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Speaker 5: To nothing, everybody's writing off Milwaukee, and even our friend

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Tokyo Brandon knows you don't write off the Brewers. So yeah,

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if you're looking to play one underdog in this series,

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this may be the time to do it.

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Speaker 1: I'll just yeah, I do want to finish up one

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thing in retard in regards to the handicap, because I

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I'd be remiss if I didn't at least point out,

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like listen, Quintana's not a better pitcher than Glass now,

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I'm looking at it from this standpoint.

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Speaker 2: I would want the run and a half.

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Speaker 1: So I would want the plus one and a half

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cushion with the road team here right now, it's like

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minus one thirty. I think if the Dodgers took some

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more money throughout the day and maybe knock that down

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ten cents.

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Speaker 2: I'd be even more willing to get involved with that.

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Speaker 1: And the way I would look at it is, I'm

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gonna trade getting the run and a half for being

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at a pitching disadvantage. But I'm gonna have to decide

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how much I trust Pat Murphy to push the right

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buttons here? How long is he gonna leave Quintana in?

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Who is he using out of the bullpen? Is he

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willing to bring in Misroski or no? Because he's gonna

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have to be the game four guy. But like, if

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you don't win game three, then the game four is

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are almost irrelevant. So it's like there is a lot

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of different ways that this game can go for Milwaukee.

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And I think it comes down to, like, do you

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think Pat Murphy has a good game plan? Do you

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think he can push the right buttons to keep the

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Brewers in this game? If the answer is yes, I

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think you consider the plus one and a half here

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with the Brewers. If the answer if you think the

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answers no, it might be tough to get to window.

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Speaker 2: Get to the window with the Brewers. Sorry, TV were

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you gonna add something there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one thing to mention, although Glass now has really

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good stats against these Milwaukee batters in his career, his

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postseason era in his career is four eight nine, so

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he does tend to be a choker in the playoffs.

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So that that does go towards what Brian was saying.

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So which is which? Which trump's which? You know, the

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head to head stats or the career playoffs stats. We'll

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see tonight. I will say though, that the Dodgers are

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probably the only lineup, the most deadly six through nine

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lineup in all of Major League Baseball. So that's something

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to consider as well.

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Speaker 1: Victoria El says Kent State graduate here love the hoodie. Yeah,

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I was just talking to Brian off Air. I just

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kind of, you know, I was I was doing some

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MAC basketball preview or prep, just reading some previews and

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trying to get through all the different conferences. And that

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was cold this morning. It's it's finally getting cold here

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in central New York. Went over to the closet, I said,

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you know, and I'm in a MAC mood today, so

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I'll throw Kent State's hoodie on. Brian of course went

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to Akron, so he was not thrilled to see this

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when I logged in, But yeah, Kent State had a

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great time at the Mac Center, very like unique, kind

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of cool venue.

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Speaker 2: I went there with Brian Power.

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Speaker 1: We put down a few Golden Flashes loggers at the game, so.

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Speaker 2: They have their they have their you know what, that's it.

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That's a big thing. Brian.

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Speaker 1: I look for that, like, listen, you gotta have you

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gotta have a team beer or a team drink like

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that to me is a no brainer. If you are like,

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there's always a local brewery, do a partnership, make yourself

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a beer with the logo on it.

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Speaker 2: I was, I really like, looked for those last year

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and you lost. You lose points in my book if

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you don't have a beer with your logo on it,

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that's partnering with a local brewery. So I believe the

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Kent State version is the Golden Flashes lagger, and yeah,

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Brian Power and I had a few of those. We

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had a great time and a very cool venue.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, and I've said this numerous times,

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Kent State achron basketball game was one of the best

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sports atmospheres I have ever been to any sporting event

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that game I went to was at Akron. They definitely

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just let anyone and everyone in probably put probably you know,

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good thing the fire Marshal didn't show up. They probably

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oversold the building by five hundred people. People standing on

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the track up like they have a track around the top.

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Speaker 2: And it was just total may him so shout out

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to Kent State.

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Speaker 1: Akron an elite rivalry that I don't think a lot

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of people know about. All right, let's uh, let's move

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it along. The Zips that's right, TV, the Zips and

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the Flashes. Also two great men, I mean, two great

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mascots right there, Like you know, we don't need any

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more wildcats.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we don't need any more bulldogs.

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Speaker 4: Give me and Akron and Ken State are both the

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same colors too, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, Brian helped me out there. I think there. I

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think Akron's got a slightly different goal.

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Speaker 3: The acrons blue and white and kind of is blue

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and yellow.

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Speaker 2: There's Zippy, the.

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Speaker 3: Akron mascot, one mascot of the year two years maybe

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a decade ago. Uh so, nobody knows about him, but

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he they have a contest for some reason, and he

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has one or I think it's a she actually she

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has won two years, some acro on the soccer championship

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one year, and Zippy has won a couple of years.

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That's basically your acron history there for sports.

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Speaker 4: The accolades of the Akron Zips.

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Speaker 1: Tim Tim says, Adam, are you doing your college basketball

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previews this year? A couple of people people have asked

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me that, and so the answer is no. But the

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only reason for that is we are. We We are

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gonna do a college basketball show very similar to this

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one in the same times actually in a slightly different

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time slot. We're gonna go ten am Eastern Monday through Friday.

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It's gonna be myself, Rob Vino and Brian Power, and

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so we are putting the effort, the pre that that

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would normally be put into doing previews, into making sure

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that that show is ready to rock come day one.

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So the first episode of that show, the first episode

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of that show, as Jersey tugging Sports and Games in

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the chat says you know that. He says, what date

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does the new show start? That'll be November three, Monday,

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November three, that is when college basketball tips off, and

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we will be hitting the ground running with five Monday

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through Friday. So it's basically the same I and again,

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don't quote me on that. I got to ask the producers,

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but I'm fairly certain that we are in the ten

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to eleven time slot, I think, But don't quote me

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on that because.

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Speaker 2: That's not my that's not my call.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's gonna be ten am as

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opposed to nine am, and the goal will be the

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same format. So we're gonna we are taking the total

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basis format and trying to apply it to college basketball,

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which could go completely off the rails. There's three hundred

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and sixty four Division one college basketball schools.

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Speaker 2: But we're still gonna, I said, I pushed back.

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Speaker 1: I said, the people the chat wants to talk about

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what they want to talk about. If the chat rolls

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up and asks about Saint Bonaventure, we're answered, that's what

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we're talking about. If the chat wants to talk about Villanova,

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we'll talk about Villanova.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be a really good show.

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Speaker 1: Rob Vino has more info in his brain than like

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everyone at this company combined. So we're good. We're it's

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not going to be a problem. And uh, you know,

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I follow the small conferences up here in the Northeast.

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I usually have something to add when you ask about, uh,

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you know, just some some random Jesuit school in New York,

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like with two thousand kids.

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Speaker 2: I'm usually covering that one. Take Sanna Bryant, Yeah, Arizona rules.

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Make sure your boy, your boy will be at that game.

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That that's the first game I'm going to this year.

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The alma mater has invited me back to go down

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to that game. So, uh, I've got some nice press passes.

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I will be at Sianna Bryant on Opening night, and

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uh yeah, I hope, I hope.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna run Brian out of the building. That's that's

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I truly hope that's that's the case. Sianna's got a

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great team this year. I will get back to baseball though,

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I'm sorry I could. You guys got me all excited

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talking about college hoop. But we still have another baseball

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game to talk about. And so, Brian Leonard, I'm heading

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back to you. We had Mariners Blue Jays. You crushed

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this game last night, team total over full game over

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Blue Jay Tokyo. Brandon with the Blue Jays bats, so

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you got you You both sort of just printed in

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this game, and the Blue Jays are now back in

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the mix in this series. Two games to one, going

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to you, Brian Leonard, Do the Mariners regain control of

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the series?

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Speaker 2: Tonight?

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Speaker 3: Shares are in Castill going shares Are hasn't pitched in

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a while, and Castill's been better, but I don't know

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how long they're gonna leave him out there for this

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one we're looking at. See, I don't only about a

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one twenty one, twenty five favorite in that range seven

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and a half to the under. Yesterday's total was seven

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with Bieber and Kirby. This one's seven and a half

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with a rusty Scherzer and a Castillo who's not as

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good as Kirby is. And so the first thing I'm

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gonna look at is back at the over again. As

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she said, that was a no doubter all the way through,

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and and I know this is a good pitcher's park,

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but they're not taken into account. These are two of

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the top five hitting baseball teams on the season, and

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you heat it up a couple of guys yesterday that

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have been struggling. So that's my first look. Scherzer comes

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in with a five point one to nine four point

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seven to nine expected one point twenty nine whip. His

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four seamer, in which he's dominated on in the past,

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is down to ninety three point six miles an hour,

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so he doesn't have the big fastball that he had

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in the in the past. His barrel rate is in

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the second percentinle ground ball rate second percentile me's a

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lot of fly balls, and home runs come for fly balls.

476
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:55,960
I don't know if anybody knows that, but unless you

477
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,960
were watching the last time the Brewers played, where they

478
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,200
had a fly ball that ended up as a play groundout,

479
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,079
which was the funniest play I've ever seen in my life.

480
00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:06,720
But getting back to today's game, yeah, I don't know

481
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,640
if I trust Sers. I don't know how long he's

482
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,160
going to go. But while he's in there, he's not

483
00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:14,480
the same picture as he was. He's a bulldog. I mean,

484
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,079
he's a great guy to have on the team. And

485
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,880
but you know, you look at Lewis Castillo, Luis Castile

486
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,839
three point five four ERA four point one zero expected

487
00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:27,240
one point one eight whip, and he's very much the same.

488
00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:29,359
The only thing he's better than the league averaging is

489
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,920
basically his fastball veloss. He's sixtieth percentile. He doesn't walk

490
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,279
anybody eighty second percentile, but he's got first percentile extension

491
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,799
and he's which means that the batter has more time

492
00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:44,359
to see the pitch. Our hit rate eighth percentile, barrel

493
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,839
rate seventeenth percentile, average eggs velocity twenty second percentile. There

494
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,759
is nothing on these two pitchers to make me think

495
00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:54,160
this is going to be a low scoring game. The

496
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,480
only way it would be is if the Seattle bullpen

497
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,440
gets involved early and they get some of the better

498
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,880
pitchers out there. I don't think it's going to happen.

499
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,839
I think this game goes over the total very much

500
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,400
like yesterday. This one will probably be on my card

501
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,839
once again. I like you over here at seven and

502
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,480
a half in year, and you can get it at

503
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,200
you know, very cheap numbers at a lot of places

504
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,960
out there. I'm seeing a few places at like a

505
00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:22,559
minus one eighteen minus one twenty on the under. So yeah,

506
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:24,839
it's it's a no brainer for me. I'm gonna play

507
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,839
the over again in this one.

508
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sures is one of those guys. He's definitely past

509
00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:35,680
his prime, but you know he still has the ability

510
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:38,400
to step up in big games, in my opinion, But

511
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:42,759
for how long he's breaking down, you can see it

512
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,359
in his stat When was the last time Max Scherzer

513
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,039
had a five plus ERA? Doesn't happen that often, and

514
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,839
you can tell he's breaking down. But I think I

515
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,720
think he's got a little gas in the tank to

516
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:58,400
at least give him three good innings here. They'll probably

517
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,599
he'll probably have a short hook. In his last game,

518
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,559
he went five innings, but that was in the regular

519
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:10,359
season against Boston. He went five innings before that against

520
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,000
the Orioles, got shelled against Kansas City before that. But

521
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:15,839
you know, in the playoffs you can kind of throw

522
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,559
stats out the window a little bit. I think I

523
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:22,960
think he's good for three innings. We might see like

524
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:27,079
one earned in three innings with three strikeouts, pretty much

525
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,880
what I would expect from Schurzer. On the other hand,

526
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,799
Castillo another guy who's on the downward trajectory of his career,

527
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:36,599
but not quite as far as Shuser. I think Castillo

528
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,359
still has a little more gas left in his tank.

529
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,480
But I like the Toronto Bats now that they finally

530
00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:49,079
woken up. I think I think a Toronto team total

531
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,559
over might be decent or I agree with Brian, we

532
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,599
might see a game total over here. I think both

533
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,240
pitchers can be had and can be gotten to. And

534
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:01,440
like Brian said, these are two of the best lineups

535
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,000
in MLB. I mean, you don't think of Seattle as

536
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:08,519
a big hitting team, but I mean, man, just on

537
00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:12,599
and on and on. You know Naylor, you know they're

538
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,400
six through nine, pretty solid, Naylor and Suarez back there.

539
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,319
Those are two guys who can hit a home run

540
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,440
any at that and the Blue Jays also six through

541
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,799
nine pretty solid. Looks like an over to me as well.

542
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,759
Speaker 1: I leaned toward the Mariners yesterday thankfully didn't didn't do

543
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:33,480
anything with the game.

544
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: I passed on the game they got destroyed.

545
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: But I I'm even more I'm probably gonna come back

546
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,279
and play the Mariners here. So you know, both of

547
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:44,920
these I think the starting pitchers, you could probably make

548
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,279
an argument for a similar argument for both.

549
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,079
Speaker 2: It's they've obviously both had very nice careers.

550
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,279
Speaker 1: Sure's are Hall of Fame career, I mean, no one's

551
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:57,640
No one's knocking like the caliber of pitcher that these

552
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,839
guys were or have been throughout their careers. Clearly they're

553
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,759
not the same guy that they were in their prime.

554
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,319
That being set, and I think and listen, Max Scherzer

555
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:14,160
long term better than Luis Castillo right now, Like I

556
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,720
think I prefer Castillo the way he's throwing the ball

557
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,039
to Max Scherzer.

558
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: Now. The other thing I want to point out here,

559
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:21,920
and this is like.

560
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:24,599
Speaker 1: Something like, listen, I don't know if you're Luis Castile,

561
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,880
like you've been on You've been in the league for

562
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,720
a long time. You've been on some bad teams. You know,

563
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,720
you really haven't sniffed this level of team success at

564
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,640
any point in your career. I just feel like he

565
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:39,720
I feel like he's leaving it all out there.

566
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:40,759
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at what.

567
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:44,039
Speaker 1: This guy has done since since early September, he has

568
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:47,799
been awesome. September seventh against the Braves six innings of

569
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:50,880
one run ball. He has not given up more than

570
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,799
a run in any appearance since then, and obviously the last,

571
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,319
the most recent appearance was a relief appearance, and he

572
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,079
comes in in a high leverage in an extra inning

573
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,039
game five and one in a third scoreless against the Tigers.

574
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,960
Prior to that, four and two thirds of shutout ball. Yeah,

575
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,400
he had the four walks. Could the Tigers have taken advantage. Probably.

576
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,480
I'm not saying that he is like some elite pitcher

577
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,680
at this point, but he's a veteran. I think he

578
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:21,759
knows that this is his chance. He might not get

579
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:26,880
another chance at this type of role for a team

580
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,799
that could win in his career.

581
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:31,759
Speaker 2: And I just think he's pitching his tailoff right now.

582
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: Seven and a third against the Rockies, ten strikeouts, six

583
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:37,440
shutout innings against the Royals.

584
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: I mean, this is going going on for over a.

585
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:43,519
Speaker 1: Month now, and you talk about like some nice rest

586
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:44,480
between starts.

587
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: He had the start against the Tigers.

588
00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: He came in in relief, so it's been it's been

589
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,880
eleven days since that start. I believe since his most

590
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,880
recent start against the Tigers. He should be well rested.

591
00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:00,799
I'm not saying Surezer doesn't care. That's not what I'm saying.

592
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,319
I'm not saying that he's or that he wouldn't be

593
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:05,960
as up for the moment. But I think when you've

594
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,599
kind of looked at cherser this season, like to me,

595
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,599
he's clearly not like he's clearly not the same guy.

596
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,799
Forty one years old, has dealt with some injuries, like

597
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,519
whereas Louis Castillo, I think is just more on his

598
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,000
gradual sort of decline as he gets up there in age.

599
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:28,680
But I still think Luis Castillo might have like more

600
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:30,720
left in the tank at this point. So when I

601
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,240
look at these two next to each other, I see

602
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,359
issues with both. But I see how Luis Castillo has

603
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,759
been pitching lately. I see how he's sort of been

604
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,079
in the big spots in that series with the Tigers

605
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:45,920
and this. I just feel like this is like the

606
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,559
biggest start of his career. Like when he looks back,

607
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:52,000
it's like he's had a great career. He's finally in

608
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:55,480
the ALCS. He wins here, he could possibly go to

609
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:58,519
a World Series. I don't know, it's gonna be hard

610
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,799
to pass that up. With the home team, I still

611
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:04,799
think the Mariners. Mariners have been better in this series. Yes,

612
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:06,400
it went off the rails when they've kind of got

613
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,240
blown off last night, blown out last night. So I

614
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:12,039
think I'm going to be back on the Mariners here.

615
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:13,880
That's where that's the way I'm looking go ahead.

616
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: Brian TV mentioned how long it's been since Surezer's pitch.

617
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,519
He hasn't pitched since with the twenty fourth the last month,

618
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,839
so he's gone over three weeks without pitching, and if

619
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,119
you go back his last starts before that, he's pitched

620
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:31,400
a total of twenty five innings. It's given up a

621
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,480
total of twenty five earned runs. Granted, the rest may

622
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,680
help him in that regard, but still, this is a guy.

623
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:45,359
He's forty one years old. He's going to give up

624
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,200
some runs in this game. It would not surprise me

625
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:52,480
if if the host gets six runs or whatever in

626
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,000
this game again and we see another over.

627
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:01,359
Speaker 1: I also think, like, let's say, I think right now,

628
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,839
as I watched these games, if there was going to

629
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,400
be a manager that hit the panic button and made

630
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,960
a bad decision or a decision that was gonna put

631
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,039
his team in a tough position, it's probably Schneider.

632
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:14,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it's Dan Wilson.

633
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: I feel like Dan Wilson's just kind of like I

634
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,039
feel like he trusts his team more, especially the pitching.

635
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:23,119
I think he's gonna he'll he'll have Castillo out here.

636
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,319
It's almost like, hey, it's your start. Yeah, obviously we'll

637
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:28,680
go to the bullpen if we're in trouble. Whereas like

638
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,400
and I'll throw it back to YouTube, Like I don't know, like,

639
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,799
do you think like, cause Schneider did did this, did that?

640
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,000
You know, made that crazy move where he went to

641
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,559
the bullpen super early in the Yankees series, took Bieber

642
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,759
out and suddenly he was in a he was in

643
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:44,160
a world of trouble.

644
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: It was the game that Aaron Judge hit the home run.

645
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,799
The Yankees came back and won.

646
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:51,559
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that that could possibly be

647
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:55,200
an issue again this Blue Jay's bullpen. If you go

648
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:58,039
back to the day Yimi Garcia got hurt on July second,

649
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,960
third era is close to five, like that they they

650
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,960
have a couple of nice arms, but I don't know

651
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,079
that I like trust them to go get six innings

652
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:10,000
worth of outs on the road. So like again, like

653
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,880
that's that's to me, that's putting me on the Mariners

654
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,480
a little bit here.

655
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,319
Speaker 2: Going back to what you guys are saying, it could be.

656
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:18,759
Speaker 1: A shorter outing for Sureser or Schneider sitting there to

657
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,559
one and saying, hey, like we have to win this game.

658
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,680
You know, Shure's a is not gonna want to come

659
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,359
out Like there's that's there could be like a I

660
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:27,960
don't know that.

661
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: That's that's just kind of how I'm seeing that one.

662
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:32,759
Speaker 3: I can't agree on.

663
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:39,119
Speaker 2: You're you're you're muted, TV Brian. Do you do you

664
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,799
think oh your back go ahead? Okay.

665
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: I think as a rule of thumb, uh, these managers

666
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,920
should leave their pitchers in until they get in trouble.

667
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:50,880
This pulling guy is after giving one hit in five

668
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,519
innings is just ridiculous in the playoffs.

669
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, TV H Max Schurzer hasn't

670
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,519
pitched in three weeks.

671
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: He was left off the A L. D roster.

672
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,359
Speaker 1: Now he's here, now he's in trouble in the second inning.

673
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,960
What like does that Is that a good scenario for

674
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
the Blue Jays because you're either going to have Schneider

675
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,719
sitting there say shit, I owe this, this is a

676
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,559
Hall of Famer. Can I go get him? Or do

677
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,960
I go get him? And then everyone gets pissed off,

678
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,599
including maybe Shures or even though we just saw a

679
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,400
shres or blow up in the first inning not too

680
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,039
long ago, so it's like, I don't know, it just

681
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,440
doesn't seem like.

682
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: The best scenario for the Blue Jays. Brian, What were

683
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,440
you going to say?

684
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, I disagree with with TV on that I

685
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,760
would prefer at this point of the season, you have

686
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,119
one of your long relievers. If it is Toronto, you've

687
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,760
got either Lower or Basket. They haven't pitched since Monday

688
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,719
and they only threw basically twenty pitches each in a

689
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,159
full pay game. I have one of those guys get

690
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,639
up at the first sign of trouble and just have

691
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,400
him warm up, because if he can get out of it,

692
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,679
they're probably not going to pitch anymore in the rest

693
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,440
of the game anyway, because you've got other pitch They

694
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,280
are more talented at the back of that bullpen. So

695
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,079
I want to have somebody ready if the pers sign

696
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:09,039
if he's not doing well, you know, sure's there's a veterant.

697
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,840
He understands. He blame himself. I don't think he can

698
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,840
get mad at the manager for pulling him out. That's

699
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,639
just my opinion on the game. Again, too important to

700
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:21,840
not have somebody warmed up. And we've seen that in

701
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,679
these playoffs where all of a sudden, the guy gets

702
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:27,119
something happens to the guy, and all of a sudden,

703
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,800
the manager comes out, and then the catcher comes out,

704
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,880
and there's it's clearly just killing time in order for

705
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,079
that reliever to get ready, and then he's got to

706
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,119
come in faster than they normally would. I would have

707
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,559
either Lower or Basset warming up in the bullpen, probably

708
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:42,559
the second or third in it.

709
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think Sures is going to go long.

710
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,880
I said earlier, I think three innings max for him,

711
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,960
But I think he can give a good three innings.

712
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,280
What I'm talking about about these managers is pulling Snell

713
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,880
or you know, pulling someone like Glass now if they have,

714
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,119
like if they've only given up two hits in one

715
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:04,639
walk in five innings, you don't pull that picture. You

716
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,280
wait until they get in trouble to pull them. In

717
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,559
my opinion, I mean, you did that in the regular

718
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:12,719
season and you won ninety games. Why would you change

719
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,039
that that theory?

720
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: Now it's different. Now you lose, you're out. So yeah,

721
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:20,719
these are much more important than regular season games.

722
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,119
Speaker 4: But I'd much rather I'd much rather have a Glass

723
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:29,119
now pitching out of trouble than putting Trina in and

724
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:31,320
trying to get him to get out of trouble. So,

725
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,679
you know, Dave Roberts is and more on. I think

726
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,440
I think I think Schneider is in a little over

727
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,079
his head. He seems to be panicking a little bit

728
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,360
in the games that I've seen. Yesterday was just a snoozer,

729
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,039
so he didn't have to make a decision.

730
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: TV.

731
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you from the standpoint where

732
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:56,599
it's like, if a guy's clearly cruising, I think I'm

733
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,039
starting to lean toward like put him back out there.

734
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,920
And you gotta like, at this point, it's like, why

735
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,199
do these why why do these managers not trust to

736
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,840
highlight a leverage arm to come in and get him

737
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,480
out with a guy on base, Because it's like, if

738
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:14,000
a guy is just cruising, Like why would you not

739
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:15,159
put him back out there?

740
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,159
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like what what? What? What is?

741
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: Why would you not put him back out there? If

742
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,599
he's if he's if he's on a roll. Now, I

743
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:24,840
guess it's like we don't know the conversations going on

744
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,360
in there, but I highly doubt like to use your

745
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:30,960
Just to use a Snell point, I've watched Blake Snell

746
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,880
long enough, there's no way he was like, yeah, man,

747
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,199
I'm done, I'm cooked.

748
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:36,079
Speaker 2: Like I thought.

749
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:41,599
Speaker 1: She's just like yeah, but I'm just well, like what

750
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:42,960
I'm saying, like, damn it.

751
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: I've seen him argue with managers when they tried to

752
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,719
take him out.

753
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,639
Speaker 1: Because sometimes it is like it like giving the team

754
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:53,880
a different look, you're doing them a favor. If they

755
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,840
haven't hit Blake Snell for eight innings, you could put

756
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,800
you could bring in friggin Dennis Eckersley in his prime.

757
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: You know's go back in time and get them.

758
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,039
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, thank God, because we've just we've

759
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,239
just went eight innings against this guy and we can't

760
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,280
do anything. So so give me Mariano Rivera from ninety

761
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,039
eight right now, just anything other than Blake Snell throwing

762
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,519
us like eighty nine mile an hour curve balls and

763
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:20,079
change ups because we can't hit it. So that's so

764
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:23,280
to your point, I do think sometimes even though like

765
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,400
I understand their sentiment, it's like, don't don't give this

766
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,960
team another look that they might do better against unless

767
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,800
you absolutely have to write, like like let you absolutely

768
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,840
have to it. Hey, I don't envy these guys tough,

769
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,800
because you're gonna get criticized no matter what. So it's

770
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,000
like it's it's always gonna be damned if you do

771
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:42,400
damned if you don't. I if Snell goes out there

772
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,400
in the ninth gives up a hit puts two guys on.

773
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:48,480
Someone over here, some reporter over here is like, why

774
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:50,719
didn't they bring in Sasaki to close the gate? You know,

775
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,800
it's just you're screwed either way. But I want to

776
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,800
go to Rick Reynolds comment, He's right, Seattle bullpen arms,

777
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,559
they're way better get sign me up for Bizarro spire

778
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:03,960
brash munyos. After maybe four or five decent innings from Castillo,

779
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,880
I think the Mariners are in a much better spot

780
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,320
than the Jays in Game four.

781
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: Another thing about pulling pictures is how do you define

782
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,960
the word trouble right? Sometimes managers can look and see

783
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,119
that their pictures in trouble. For example, if there's a

784
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,239
spot where you where you got a guy on first

785
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,039
base with with none or one out, you absolutely cannot

786
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:28,519
put the next guy on base. And if you throw

787
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:31,360
four straight balls in a row, you have to take

788
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,440
that picture out because he obviously doesn't have his command

789
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,239
and he's not trying to throw balls. So in that

790
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,400
in that case, yeah, I would take a picture out. So,

791
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,320
I mean it is case by case. But Blake Snell

792
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,159
was not in that situation in Game one. He was cruising.

793
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,360
So but but sure's are today now, sure's are. I

794
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,880
think he, like I said, he's argued with managers who

795
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,480
tried to take him out before, and he's got a temper.

796
00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:01,239
He's a hot heead he's very opinionated, and I actually

797
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,639
met him when he was when he was when he

798
00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:09,440
played for the Diamondbacks. But he's he's fiery, and but

799
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:12,119
I think he realizes right now that he's on the

800
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,760
down side of his career and he has very little

801
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,280
gas left in the tank. And I think the Jays

802
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,000
know that too, and they're just going to try and

803
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,320
get what they can out of it. I don't think

804
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,079
they're expecting five innings out of him. I think he'll

805
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:26,840
have a very short hook and I think three innings

806
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,199
max is what we can expect from him.

807
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: He wants, he wants to be a good teammate. He's

808
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,480
not going to argue. He shouldn't argue. Yes, when he

809
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:39,480
was with Detroit and he was, my opinion, is a

810
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,519
Hall of Famer. But I agree when he was with

811
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:44,639
Detroit and he was great, that was when he was

812
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:49,079
really feisty anymore. He's a smart guy. He understands the game.

813
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,840
The game is too important. If he's not if he

814
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,639
doesn't have it. I don't think he's going to be

815
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:53,760
any problems.

816
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, And I think three innings max

817
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,400
for him today, And honestly, I think I think he

818
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,880
can give three solid innings. I think I think one

819
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,199
earned run in three innings is what we see from him.

820
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,719
In my opinion. I could be wrong, could be wrong.

821
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,360
I think the rest is actually beneficial for him. He's

822
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,679
not one of those guys who's like on a time

823
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,599
schedule and freaks out if if he's one short, if

824
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,880
he's pitching on four days rest or four weeks dress.

825
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:23,480
I think he's pretty mentally uh in it as far

826
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,280
as pitching is concerned. Maybe his personality is a little wacky.

827
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,239
But and yeah, he's got two different colored eyes. It's

828
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,599
really weird looking at his eyes when you talk to him.

829
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:42,760
It's very hard to look at him.

830
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: So dominating or whatever, you know, like help Ebrowski for

831
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,320
the Cardinals, when you just sort of looked in at

832
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,320
the relief pitcher and the bear and all bit. Uh, yeah,

833
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,840
this kind of throws you off a little bit.

834
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, it does.

835
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: People have that. And uh, it's interesting.

836
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: One point in the comments, I don't mean to dominate

837
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:04,199
to talk here, but uh, the comments are saying, yes,

838
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,719
Seattle's bullpen is better. Toronto didn't have to use their

839
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,760
good arms just so, and Seattle didn't either. It was

840
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,440
a very low leverage game yesterday because it was pretty

841
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:17,079
much over right away. So I think big advantage for

842
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,199
Toronto here, or I'm sorry, big advantage for Seattle here

843
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:27,039
if the game is tight after five innings, Toronto?

844
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:30,519
Speaker 2: Who are Toronto? Who are Toronto's good bullpen arms? At

845
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:30,960
this point?

846
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: I know, I know who's pitching good right now, but like,

847
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,400
is there anyone in that bullpen where you're just like

848
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:41,280
in a tight game on the road, You're like, Yeah,

849
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,320
that's that's who I want to roll with right now?

850
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 4: To me, there's not so Dodgy is better than Toronto's

851
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,280
right now.

852
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Tokyo Brandon, Yeah, the one of the great MLB debuts

853
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,440
for a pitcher. Max Sure's are getting called into the

854
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,280
game and relief. I don't even know if that was planned.

855
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,559
He comes in and and gets thirteen guys out in

856
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:05,159
a row. Was totally dominant. I remember watching that game.

857
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,639
I was in my dorm room my senior year of college.

858
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:11,280
I was watching it on my laptop. I don't know

859
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,079
why I can remember that, but it was. It was

860
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,280
two thousand and eight, and I remember Max Suers are

861
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,320
just sitting at my desk in college being like, who who.

862
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: The hell is this?

863
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Like this was I mean, that was awesome and the

864
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,679
rest is kind of history because I mean he was

865
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,840
pretty much dominant from that point forward.

866
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,079
Speaker 2: So still can't believe they traded. Would they trade? I

867
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,840
that's a I feel like they got the d backs

868
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,800
have gotten abused in trades over the years.

869
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: If I if I like later, like the last like

870
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,920
fifteen twenty years, I feel like they've made some trades

871
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,840
or some I don't know. They always seem to be

872
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,280
on the wrong end of like you know, moving a

873
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,760
guy ends up being like really good somewhere.

874
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 4: Iates too speaking the glass Now, he pitched for the pirates.

875
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,440
Think of all the really good pitchers who pitched for

876
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,000
the Pirates and they got nothing in return for them,

877
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,840
snow Ian Snell, there's many more that I'm probably blanking

878
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,239
that Snell was one of them. Nothing.

879
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Do you guys have anything to promote for today before

880
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,239
we get off the show?

881
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,199
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, I'm going to be on the Hockey Show. Today.

882
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,639
Won our hockey play yesterday on Detroit is a nice

883
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,360
underdog against Florida. Like I said, for sixteen and four

884
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,719
overall run four oh yesterday, it's very likely that I'm

885
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,920
going to have a five percent play. It may came

886
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,039
up a little bit later because I still need to

887
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:40,480
study for the hockey show, but once that's over, I'll

888
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:43,719
have my plays up. And been on a really nice run.

889
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,400
I think we'll leave them second in baseball over the

890
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,000
last month, second overall in that profit. So it's been

891
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,239
a nice run. Just keep an eye on check my

892
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,960
page back later and we're all. If you follow me

893
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:58,800
on Twitter, I'll tweet something out if I do have

894
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,079
the five but I'll at least have a for going today,

895
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:04,400
and it looks to be maybe a multiple play days.

896
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,880
So looking forward to today's card in all sports, and

897
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,199
you have Monday night foot or excuse me, Thursday night

898
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,000
football and Thursday night college football as well, So full

899
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:16,679
slate of sports for everybody today, and I'll make sure

900
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,519
to put up a free play.

901
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:23,199
Speaker 4: Also have an MLB play out right now. And our

902
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,039
MLB plays under five percent, we're allowed to sell them

903
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,480
for nine dollars, So go to wagertalk dot com and

904
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:32,679
see what we have. I might have a big play

905
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,159
in the KBO tonight. I like the match up on

906
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,400
when Samsung, so I might put a play a big

907
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,519
play out in that. But the lines aren't out yet

908
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,559
Son as well non MLB plays Adam and I. We

909
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:49,280
are allowed to put those out for half price, so

910
00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:51,559
look and see what we got later on.

911
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:53,079
Speaker 3: Guys.

912
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't put anything.

913
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,599
Speaker 1: Oh well, I actually I have a five percent NFL playout,

914
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:00,920
so I have put a play out in baseball yet.

915
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,400
But I have hit four four NFL in a row.

916
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:07,639
I had two five percent NFL last.

917
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,079
Speaker 2: Week, both of them won. I hit one on Sunday

918
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:13,639
and I felt good enough about how things were going.

919
00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:16,480
I up the Monday night game a five percent with

920
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:20,599
the Falcons and watched that game at a casino in

921
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,679
a Bills watch party, and I bet the Falcons, and

922
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:27,559
I'm standing there. Everyone's pissed off because it's Central New York.

923
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,159
Speaker 1: They're all both Bills fans, and I'm sitting there with

924
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,320
my Falcons ticket, like, let's go. So great week of NFL,

925
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,800
and I put a five percenter up for Sunday. That's

926
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,360
up on my page. And yeah, the uh, the trade

927
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,079
basically what the Diamondbacks got back for Sureser and like

928
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:48,559
four other players was Ian Kennedy and Edward Jackson.

929
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:51,119
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna listen to Ian Kennedy slander.

930
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: He had a good run when he there was a

931
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960
couple of years where he was very good. Uh, but

932
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:58,000
I feel like they lost that trade. I think they

933
00:46:58,039 --> 00:46:58,800
might have lost that.

934
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: At any rate, we'll we'll be back in the morning.

935
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:08,599
Speaker 1: We have at least one Yeah, yeah, yeah, we should

936
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:12,039
have Wait, we'll have Will we be guaranteed two games tomorrow?

937
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,800
We will, right, we got two games tomorrow, no matter what.

938
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: I think.

939
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: I haven't liked to the schedule yet.

940
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, no matter what, we will have a

941
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,199
game five if you will. Yep, we have two games

942
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:27,800
to talk about tomorrow, Game five Jays Mariners, Game four

943
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,760
Brewers Dodgers. So we we'll a respectable show to close

944
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,440
out the week for total bases and so if there's baseball,

945
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we'll be here on Monday, Tuesday, or whatever days next week.

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It's gonna be all about if the Brewers and the

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and the Blue Jays can can keep these series going,

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otherwise we might not see you for a couple of days,

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but we will definitely see you tomorrow at nine am Eastern.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you guys tuning in.

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Speaker 1: Rob I just like Russell Dex comming out of the

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corner of my eyes, like you're lucky they didn't beat

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the hell out of you at that watch party.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's why I was silent. I was just

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over there.

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Speaker 1: I had my I had wager talk gear on because

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I was there doing some stuff, so I was I

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was not outward you know, I didn't want to get

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thrown through a table.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't outwardly cheering. I was just like, very quietly.

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Speaker 3: Yet I will say tonight, the Steelers are playing the Bengals,

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and my buddy, my good buddy, Marco D'Angelo invited me

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to a Steelers bar. He told me if I wore

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my Browns Chubb jersey, you would buy my dinner. He goes,

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it's worth seeing you to get your ass kicks. So

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that's that's my friend, Marco D'Angelo.

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Speaker 2: People can't comprehend North.

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Speaker 1: Listen, it's kind of miserable living in the Northeast for

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like some of the year, most of the year, so

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it's like all we've got, like you don't get this

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in you don't get this type of like anger about

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sports in like let's say San Diego or you know,

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La or Arizona or Miami, Like there's other stuff to

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do there. We end up sitting here half the time.

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There's four feet of snow. It's miserable and cold. So

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like the Northeast, that's all we got. So we like

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so yeah, you might get you know, someone in Buffalo

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absolutely miserable.

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Speaker 2: The place to be a lot of the year, someone's

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gonna be up. Yeah, you come in talking about the bills,

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They're gonna get pissed off.

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Speaker 1: That's how it works in the Northeast, and certainly in Cleveland.

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Cleveland is very much in that, uh, the whole.

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Speaker 3: Rust belt area of Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh. Yeah, when you're

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when you're running an opposed in Jersey, you better keep

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your mouth shut. That's all I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: All right, I got it, all right, let's uh, let's

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wrap it up here. We will see you guys tomorrow

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nine em Eastern. Check out the website as always like

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and subscribe if you if you catch the replay, and

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we'll see you guys in the morning