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Also, Tom Tillis has 11 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:45,479 tanked Trump's pick for the top federal prosecutor in Washington, DC. 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,840 The pressure campaign that was launched against Tillis to try 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,159 to get him to reverse course did not work. And 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,960 so this came down a little bit ago that President 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,879 Trump says he will pull ed Martin's nomination, saying we 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,799 have somebody else that we'll be announcing over the next 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,120 two days. All right, So what is all of this about? 18 00:01:14,439 --> 00:01:17,799 Republican Senator Tom Tillis from North Carolina, who is up 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:24,560 for reelection next year twenty twenty six, He said, I 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,000 guess this would have been two days ago that he 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,120 told the White House that he would not be supporting 22 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:37,000 Ed Martin, who was the pick to be the dc 23 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:45,280 US attorney, which stalled his nomination. Martin's nomination because in 24 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,120 the Senate, nominations go through the Judiciary Committee, then they 25 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:51,760 go on to the full Senate for confirmation. That's sort 26 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,519 of the process. And if you don't get a majority 27 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,560 on the Senate Judiciary Committee, you don't get out of 28 00:01:58,599 --> 00:02:01,599 the committee, and normally that means you're not going to 29 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:08,159 you're not going to win appointment. Tillis told reporters Tuesday 30 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:12,039 that he had met with Ed Martin the previous day. 31 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,960 So Monday evening, he and Martin have a meeting, and 32 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,919 Tillis says then the next day on Tuesday, that he 33 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:26,000 is opposing Martin's nomination because of his defense of rioters 34 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:32,080 who breached the Capitol. On January sixth, twenty twenty one, Martin, 35 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,759 a leading figure in Trump's campaign to overturn the twenty 36 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,080 twenty election, spoke at a rally the day before January sixth, 37 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,280 and I do have the audio here is here is 38 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:51,719 Tom Tillis with that gaggle of reporters in the hallway. 39 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: He is I don't believe he's been in advanced to 40 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:56,439 the markup and I'm met. 41 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,439 Speaker 3: With mister Martin, who seems. 42 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: Like a good man. Most of my concerns related to 43 00:03:02,199 --> 00:03:06,719 January sixth, and he built a compelling case on some 44 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,800 of the fifteen twelve prosecutions that. 45 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: Were probably hey to the moment, bad decisions. 46 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:16,439 Speaker 2: But where we probably have a difference is I think 47 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:19,000 anybody that reached the perimeter should have been in prison 48 00:03:19,039 --> 00:03:19,840 for some period of time. 49 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:22,039 Speaker 3: Whether it's thirty days or three years is debatable. 50 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:25,759 Speaker 2: But I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the 51 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:28,080 building on January the sixth, and that's probably where most 52 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:28,960 of the friction was fit. 53 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:32,759 Speaker 1: He has no tolerance for anybody that entered the building 54 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:38,759 on j six none. And Tillis says that, okay, maybe 55 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,960 there were some over prosecutions, would he say fifteen to twelve? 56 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:47,960 So like a dozen out of the what fifteen hundred 57 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,479 prosecutions that maybe twelve of them were a little bit much. 58 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,000 There were people that entered that building that were waves 59 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:05,360 in by Capitol Police. They're on video, they were waved in. 60 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,080 There were people that were following the crowd. They arrived 61 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,240 after the breach of the building after people had gotten in, 62 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,879 and so then you have this crowd that's just kind 63 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:20,279 of filing through, and there are people that just like 64 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,240 saw everybody walking through, so they just walked up through too. 65 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:27,480 You're telling me they deserve prison time for that when 66 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:31,480 they did not know that they were breaching the Capitol 67 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,439 as part of a riot, because the breachers were way 68 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,560 ahead of them into the interior of the building. Well, 69 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,399 they should have known they can't do that. They should 70 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:44,600 have known that they shouldn't follow a Capitol police officer 71 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:50,319 waving them in. The US Attorney's Office in Washington is 72 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,000 the country's largest and prosecuted more than fifteen hundred riot 73 00:04:55,079 --> 00:05:00,839 defenders defendants rather after the j six attack, Rump pardoned 74 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,199 most of the rioters the day he was inaugurated, and 75 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,279 he later appointed Ed Martin to temporarily lead the DC office. 76 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,079 That appointment expires in less than two weeks because it 77 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,759 was a temporary appointment and Trump had urged Republican senators 78 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,279 to confirm Martin to the job full time. So that 79 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:25,199 was why we are waiting. So the job has been filled. 80 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,079 Martin's been doing it, but it was for it's like 81 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:30,040 one hundred and eighty days or something like that. It's 82 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,000 a temporary post until he can get the confirmation. And 83 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:38,319 Tillis has this meeting, they have this discussion, and I 84 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:42,639 kind of feel like maybe Tillis isn't fully informed on 85 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:47,279 all of the cases. If he's saying that if you 86 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,959 entered the building, you should have been thrown in prison, 87 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,319 and he dismisses that there was Okay, maybe there was 88 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,279 some over prosecuting in about half a dozen cases, like 89 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:02,120 there have been movies made about the overper prosecuting these 90 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,480 They went after these people for four years, and some 91 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:13,319 of these folks have served lengthy prison time and did 92 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,079 nothing more than walk through the Capitol following a line 93 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:20,639 of people, not knowing there was some sort of breach 94 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,920 or a riot. They some of them didn't even enter 95 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,920 the building itself. So and look, I've done no deep 96 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,439 diving into every case of the J six people. I 97 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,920 do follow some of the attorneys that represent some of 98 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:38,079 those J six defendants, and the cases that I have 99 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,639 seen spelled out's more than a dozen. One guy, forget 100 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,839 his name, he's a lawyer. Shipwrecked crew is his Twitter handle, 101 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:48,759 and he's for four years he's been talking about his 102 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:54,439 cases and the over zealous prosecution of people that don't 103 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,000 deserve the charges that the prosecutors were throwing at them, 104 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:06,120 and the way their lives were completely destroyed in the 105 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,920 investigatory process. There were abuses, and that's why this guy 106 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,199 had Martin came an He demoted or fired a whole 107 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,519 bunch of people out of that office. 108 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: So he disagreed with you on them. 109 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: Well, now I have to say that mister Martin did 110 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,279 a good job of explaining how there were people that 111 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:25,439 probably got caught up in it, but they made the 112 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:28,399 stupid decision to come through a building that had been 113 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:31,199 breached and that the police officers and others were saying 114 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,920 stay away. So the difference wasn't that they should be 115 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:37,120 charged in my estimation, it's by how much. 116 00:07:37,399 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: That's an argument I'm willing to have. 117 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,399 Speaker 2: But we have to be very very clear that what 118 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:46,519 happened on January the sixth was wrong. It wasn't It 119 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,360 was not prompted or created by other people to put 120 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:53,399 those people in trouble. They made a stupid decision and 121 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,040 they disgraced the United States, but by absolutely destroying the Capitol. 122 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: And I can't have any patients. It sounds like your 123 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,240 concerns were not. 124 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,279 Speaker 2: But let me be very clear, though, mister Martin did 125 00:08:04,279 --> 00:08:07,040 a good job of explaining the one area that I 126 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:09,639 think he's probably right that there were some people that 127 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,439 were over prosecuted, but there were some two or three 128 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:21,040 hundred of them that should have never gotten a. 129 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: Pardon, and he agreed with that. But the disagreement there 130 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:23,360 had more to do if. 131 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:25,839 Speaker 1: Mister wait a minute, so there were two to three 132 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,360 hundred people that never should have gotten a pardon. Martin 133 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:30,720 agreed that they should have gotten a part in, but 134 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:35,080 Trump did the pardons. Trump did that, not Martin. Martin 135 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,240 doesn't have that power. And Martin, you just said Martin 136 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,159 agrees with you. So what exactly is the disagreement over 137 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:43,240 I'm now unclear. 138 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: Martin were being put forth as a US attorney for 139 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,000 any district except the district where January sixth happened, the 140 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,960 protest happened, I'd probably support them. 141 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: But wait, wait a minute. Now, I'm even more confused 142 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,120 that if he was appointed to the bench in Charlotte 143 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,039 or something, you would have no problem with him being 144 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,000 a US attorney or not the bench, but the bar, 145 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,759 the US Attorney's office in Charlotte than no problem. But 146 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,840 because it's DC, big problem. What is it about the 147 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:17,600 d C U S Attorney and that office that makes 148 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:20,080 it different? Is it just that that was the jurisdiction 149 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,039 where J six happened as he, as Tillis is saying, 150 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:29,240 I'm not I'm not following that logic now. Now granted 151 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:32,080 I'm no US senator, but I'm not really following that. 152 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,600 I don't understand. If the guy's unqualified to be the 153 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,240 US attorney in DC, then he's unqualified to be the 154 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,759 US attorney anywhere. Why would the venue matter is because 155 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:48,919 that's a more powerful venue you do you deal more 156 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:57,399 with government related lawsuits and criminal investigations and such. Is 157 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:57,759 that it? 158 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,279 Speaker 3: But not in this district? Learning advanced to the markup? 159 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: Was he operating under that understanding that he's not being 160 00:10:04,039 --> 00:10:06,639 advanced through to it? Well, I think, mister Martin, I'm 161 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:07,679 sure they're looking through it. 162 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: I mean, be clearer. 163 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: Some of the deadline has to do with the length 164 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,639 of time he can operate as acting and the administration 165 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:17,440 can work through that if they want to have more 166 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,840 time and potentially work them through. But at this point 167 00:10:19,879 --> 00:10:22,879 I've indicated to the White House, I wouldn't support his nomination. 168 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:29,879 Speaker 1: So that apparently did it. Trump announced that they're going 169 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:33,679 to be pulling at Martin's nomination. They're going to announce 170 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:37,960 somebody else. By the way, I would point out, Tillis 171 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,080 did vote to confirm Merrick Garland as US Attorney General, 172 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:44,200 said he had an outstanding record serving our country and 173 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,080 has a deep understanding of the law. His experience reflects 174 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,399 his extensive legal knowledge and unbiased application of the law, 175 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,840 and his long standing reputation of bipartisanship has earned the 176 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:58,399 respect from both Democrats and Republicans. I have no doubt 177 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,600 he will serve our country well. I have a feeling 178 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,600 that maybe Senator tell Us might not be great at 179 00:11:08,639 --> 00:11:13,720 reading people. 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One 200 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:24,919 of the risks with Tom Tillis's blockage of Ed Martin 201 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,279 for the US Attorney position in Washington, DC was that 202 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,480 if he were to be blocked and nobody were to 203 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:42,679 be nominated and put in his place, then the appointment 204 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:48,399 would actually go to a judge in the DC circuit, 205 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,080 which I was not aware of this process, which is 206 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:57,559 completely insane. Why would why why would a judge think 207 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,120 about it? The US Attorney would be arguing sometimes in 208 00:13:00,159 --> 00:13:02,519 front of this judge and the US attorney would have 209 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:11,879 the job because that judge. It's ridiculous because you know 210 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:16,480 who would get to be the appointee or the appointer Sorry, 211 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,759 here is Ed Morrisey Hodier dot com. Thanks to the 212 00:13:20,879 --> 00:13:25,360 decision to have Martin serve only as an interim US attorney, 213 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,559 if the position is not filled within one hundred and 214 00:13:27,639 --> 00:13:30,480 twenty days by a Senate confirmed appointment, then the chief 215 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:35,159 Judge of the Circuit can appoint an interim US attorney 216 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,720 to serve until the confirmation takes place. And guess who 217 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:44,759 is the current chief judge of the DC Circuit. Do 218 00:13:44,799 --> 00:13:57,480 you want to take a guess? Boas Berg Judge James Bowseburg, 219 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,759 the Obama appointed judge at the center of the legal 220 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:09,279 efforts targeting Trump's deportation efforts, is the current chief judge 221 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,000 of the U S District Court for the District of Columbia. 222 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:17,279 Morrisy goes on to say, we have a truly absurd situation. 223 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Forget how we arrived at it. This is a constitutional conflict. 224 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:25,799 How can an Article three official, So the Article three 225 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,600 is the judiciary appoint an Article two official, which is 226 00:14:29,639 --> 00:14:34,519 the executive who will almost certainly appear before him in 227 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,600 that courtroom. That's not just a constitutional conflict, it is 228 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:43,480 a conflict of interest. Boasberg will essentially appoint his own 229 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:48,679 prosecutor for cases that directly involve inherent Article two powers 230 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,960 and authority. He says, absurd doesn't even do the situation justice. 231 00:14:53,039 --> 00:14:56,600 Imagine this in the context of a criminal prosecution. If 232 00:14:56,639 --> 00:15:00,840 the prosecutor owes his job to the judge and the 233 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,600 judge chose him to prosecute, how can that possibly be 234 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:08,559 seen as impartial for the defendant. In the long term, 235 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:11,480 this process has to be changed to keep Article two 236 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:15,440 officials accountable to the Article to authority, keep it inside 237 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,320 the executive branch, the president or his designees like the 238 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,159 Attorney general or something. Having judges appoint prosecutors who appear 239 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,759 before them is bizarre, and in this case, it would 240 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:31,600 have given Boseburg the chance to short circuit Trump administration 241 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:36,639 policy by perverting the constitutional order, rather than addressing legal 242 00:15:36,759 --> 00:15:40,440 challenges through the impartial application of the law and the Constitution. 243 00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:44,480 And so what Morrissey was saying, in the short term, 244 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,960 the only way to address the absurdity is to confirm Martin. 245 00:15:47,559 --> 00:15:49,759 But if they can't get his nomination to the floor. 246 00:15:50,879 --> 00:15:54,919 Senate Majority Leader John Thune could still call a floor vote, 247 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,840 but failing to get the committee approval makes that more problematic. 248 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:02,240 The White House better have a plan be ready to 249 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:07,360 go if this fails, and apparently it did, they'll be 250 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,639 announcing somebody within the next two days. 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Really bad 278 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,319 things were done that day, But if you can't easily 279 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,279 differentiate at least three groups of offenders, then you've only 280 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,319 seen the mainstream media reporting or the Trump is Savior accounts. 281 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,599 There were people in black block within, provised weapons, rowdy 282 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,119 pro Trump folks, and patriotic tourists, as well as other categories. 283 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,359 I have seen in Shipwrecked Crew, the lawyer for many 284 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,559 of the JA sixers and others reporting stories of people 285 00:18:15,599 --> 00:18:20,119 being denied medication, being denied access to attorneys, being left 286 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:25,039 in their underwear in dark, cold solitary confinement. Yeah, there 287 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:30,680 were there were a ton of allegations and not easily debunked. 288 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,960 I might add allegations of abuses of the J sixers 289 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,720 when they were arrested and incarcerated. You know, pressure was 290 00:18:39,759 --> 00:18:42,240 brought to bear that if they don't take the deals, 291 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:45,480 then you know, the full weight of the federal government 292 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:47,519 was going to come crashing down on them and their 293 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:49,640 families would be destroyed. And so a lot of them 294 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,039 took deals because their lawyers advised them to. And by 295 00:18:54,079 --> 00:18:58,240 the way, I've seen reports and comments from lawyers that 296 00:18:58,279 --> 00:19:04,319 were public defenders that were anti Trump and were celebrating 297 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,599 the fact that they got their clients to agree to sentences. 298 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,359 So they learned their lessons like that's not being an 299 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:21,000 advocate for your client. Goodwa who says, like Richard Burr 300 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:24,039 before him, Tom Tillis gets elected to Congress and then 301 00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:27,359 begins to take votes that make zero sense. Critical votes 302 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,640 where he votes with the Democrats and against the wishes 303 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,319 of his constituents. And the question is why, Well, look 304 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:36,319 at what happened with Richard Burr. That might be a 305 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,920 clue for any real journalists looking to do some real 306 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:44,799 investigative journalism. You'll recall Richard Burr was involved in the 307 00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:50,000 insider trading scandal right ahead of the pandemic. And I 308 00:19:50,039 --> 00:19:53,000 remember talking to an individual that shall remain nameless, but 309 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:55,319 they they were up in DC. 310 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,279 Speaker 3: And. 311 00:19:57,799 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: They said, what was he thinking? Why would you do 312 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,720 that for especially somebody in his position for as long 313 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:08,519 as he held it like he knew better? Why would 314 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,440 why would he do that? Well, then it raises the 315 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,640 you know, the question of well, was that just the 316 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:20,680 first time he got caught? There is a Twitter account 317 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,960 she goes by the handle of insurrectionist Barbie, so you 318 00:20:24,079 --> 00:20:28,519 know it's believable. But well, let me let me start 319 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:32,000 off by saying this. When Tillis came out and announced 320 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,519 that he was blocking Ed Martin, that he was not 321 00:20:34,519 --> 00:20:37,079 going to be allowing him to get through the Judiciary Committee, 322 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,359 which then put on the table the possibility that Judge 323 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,920 Boseburg would be the one to appoint a replacement for 324 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:51,519 that post, thus derailing the Trump agenda. Tom Tillis became 325 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:57,839 the target of a nationwide campaign. You know, a lot 326 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,160 of people are now aware of Tom Tillis in a 327 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,440 way they were not before. And you know, with the 328 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,720 retirement of Mitch McConnell, there are a number of these 329 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:14,960 Republican senators that are are now getting examined for not 330 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:20,200 being sufficiently MAGA or conservative right or on the team. 331 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:25,640 I think John Cornyn he's won. Tom Tillis is one 332 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:32,400 now two, and so the massive emailing and phone calling 333 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,319 campaign that was launched to try to get him to 334 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:40,279 flip his vote did not work. But now people are 335 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:46,160 aware of him, and now I am wondering if this 336 00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:54,079 generates more campaign donations from out of state that flow 337 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,400 into the GOP primary. As I understand it, Don Brown 338 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,200 is running for the seat. He's already announced said he's 339 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,279 going to run for it, I should say, and Don 340 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:07,440 Brown ran for the congressional seat that Mark Harris won 341 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:16,079 in the last congressional election. Don Brown local author, veteran, 342 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,559 and so he's going up against Tillis. I don't know 343 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:25,319 if there's anybody else. People are asking like, why would 344 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:30,240 he do this, I don't understand it from a political 345 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:35,039 strategy standpoint. Tillis's biggest challenge is going to be getting 346 00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:38,640 through the primary, because he does pretty well in the general. 347 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,640 And his positions on J six, I would submit, are 348 00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:47,359 part of the reason why that if he were to 349 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,880 if he were to switch his positions on J six, 350 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,240 then I think he gets more flack from the left 351 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:01,599 who can use that against him, right. I think that's 352 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,400 the political calculation on just that question. I'm not accusing 353 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,599 him of making this decision to block ed Martin based 354 00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:13,559 purely on that one issue and that political calculation. But 355 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,279 you cannot deny that a political calculation is involved to 356 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:24,200 some degree, so this account says. In February twenty nineteen, 357 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,759 Tillius wrote a Washington Post op ed opposing Trump's declaration 358 00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:31,319 of a national emergency to fund the border wall, arguing 359 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,200 that it violated the Constitution's separation of powers. He eventually 360 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,160 caved after pressure from his North Carolina voters. He also 361 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,599 co sponsored a bipartisan bill in twenty eighteen to protect 362 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,319 Special Council Robert Muller's investigation into Russian interference in the 363 00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:51,559 twenty sixteen election, which by the way, I was supportive 364 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:55,359 of that too, because Muller's investigation gave us more information. 365 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,720 I want more, I want more information. I want more investigations. Yes, 366 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,440 get people on the record, get people under oath. The 367 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,960 more you do that, the more you can find the 368 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:11,039 inconsistencies and you can find new information and you get 369 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:15,000 to the bottom of the situation. And what did Muller's 370 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,880 report end up finding? Nothing? And now you can use 371 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:25,640 that as proof in your arguments. Right next, Tayl has 372 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,359 tried to tank the heg Seth nomination. When he worked 373 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,359 behind the scenes to oppose the nomination, he encouraged heg 374 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,880 Seth's ex sister in law to provide a sworn statement 375 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,640 alleging alcohol abuse and spousal mistreatment, hoping to sway other 376 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,920 GOP senators. So there is another read on that. By 377 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,880 the way, there's another explanation for that, which is he 378 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:51,799 is told by heg Seth's former sister in law about 379 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:55,680 these accusations, and his response to her is simply, all right, well, 380 00:24:55,799 --> 00:25:00,799 if this is what you're alleging, do an affidavitous Warren's statement, 381 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,799 go under oath, do a statement and make your allegations 382 00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:09,119 that way, because if you're not going to go under 383 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,680 oath and make the allegations, then these are basically worthless, 384 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,319 which she did not do. If I recall correctly, she 385 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,920 did not end up doing that, so it could be 386 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,920 seen as a way to basically smoke her out. I 387 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,920 don't know if I don't know one way or the other, 388 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,880 but there is another read on that situation. Tillis delivered 389 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,000 a fiery Senate speech condemning Vladimir Putin as a liar 390 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,839 and murderer and the greatest threat to democracy, implicitly rebuking 391 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,519 Trump's take on the conflict, and stated that he would 392 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:45,839 not support trump national security nominees who did not back Ukraine. 393 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,880 And during the first impeachment in twenty twenty, Tillis voted 394 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,279 or I guess that would be the last one. In 395 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:55,079 twenty twenty, Tillis voted to a quit, arguing the House 396 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,759 case was weak, but he ran campaign ads emphasizing his 397 00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:03,559 opposition to remove distancing himself from Trump's legal peril. He 398 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:07,799 also supported the Bipartisans Safer Communities Act, which had the 399 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,680 funding for the Red Flag laws. And now he stands 400 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,119 in the way of confirming Ed Martin, so he has 401 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,279 now gotten a lot of attention from outside of the 402 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:22,599 state of North Carolina. Will it matter? Don't know? All right? 403 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,000 So spring is here a time of renewal and celebrations. 404 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,799 You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries, and the special days for 405 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,240 mom and dad. 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You have to list every single 426 00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:52,559 address you've ever lived at. Think about that. That's crazy, 427 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,319 especially for a renewal, because you already went through all 428 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,799 of this and took the class, you did the range time, 429 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,519 you went through the background check, you did the mental 430 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,359 health background check, you did all of this stuff. You 431 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,079 got your permit, you haven't violated any laws, you haven't 432 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,079 had it revoked or anything. And five years later, now 433 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,799 you have to go and get another renewal and you 434 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:24,079 have to fill out all the paperwork again, and you 435 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,519 got to go through the background screenings again. You got 436 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:31,359 to pay the money for the renewal again, even though 437 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:36,000 your status hasn't changed. So the North Carolina State Legislature, 438 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:41,279 well in the House, I should say, they passed yesterday. 439 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,400 They had a flurry of activity. I'm going to go 440 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,519 into in depth on more of this tomorrow on a 441 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:50,640 bunch of the different pieces of legislation that moved, so 442 00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:54,960 concealed carry handgun permit holders could soon have to apply 443 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:59,720 only once if a bill in the state legislature becomes law. 444 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,720 This is from the Charlotte Observer. The current law requires 445 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:05,640 concealed carry permit holders to renew their permits every five years. 446 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:08,680 Under House Bill six seventy four, which passed the House 447 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:13,599 yesterday evening, there would be a new lifetime concealed carry 448 00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:17,160 permit too. Holders of that permit would be able to 449 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,000 keep it for life, never again having to take another 450 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,720 firearms safety and training course. Hey guys, you don't have 451 00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,759 to do that right now. See, this is what happens 452 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,720 when people who don't know anything about firearms or concealed 453 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,440 handgun permit process or anything, when they write stories. It's 454 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,759 obvious that they don't know what they're talking about. Because 455 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,400 when I go for a renewal of my permit, I 456 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,680 don't have to retake the firearm training safety class. I 457 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,480 don't have to do any of that again. I just 458 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:50,400 have to submit all the paperwork again, they run the 459 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,279 background checks again, they run the mental health background checks again, 460 00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:59,279 and that's it. I don't have to take these the 461 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,640 firearms safe and training courses. You don't need to do 462 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,359 that now. The bill passed seventy to forty two, with 463 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,640 mostly Republican votes and with some Democrats objecting to ending 464 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,559 the renewal process. Representative Shelley Willingham, a Rocky Mount Democrat 465 00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:17,240 and retired law enforcement officer, voted in favor of the bill. 466 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,960 So it's bipartisan, you would call that, but they don't. 467 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,319 But it is. Republicans argue that the process is burdensome, 468 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:28,839 it is to permit holders, and that some states require 469 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,000 no permits at all, something that has also been proposed 470 00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:35,119 for North Carolina what they call constitutional carry. That's a 471 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,119 separate bill. Democrat Representative Marsha Morey of Durham, a former 472 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,880 judge who you would think might know the law. She says, 473 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,960 you know, it's a lifetime like there could be a 474 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400 lot of changes over the course of your life. Like 475 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:55,200 this five year renewal is just a check to make 476 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,119 sure the good guys with guns stay a good guy 477 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,119 who's content an end, who's save and knows how to 478 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,559 operate the gun and does not have any affliction that 479 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:07,519 would be a danger to one's self or the public. 480 00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:10,799 So what this tells me is that she doesn't know 481 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:18,799 the renewal process, nor does she know about the revocation process. 482 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:23,880 People who get concealed handgun permits want to keep those permits. 483 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,640 They very much adhere to the laws so as to 484 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,279 not lose their ability to have that permit. And if 485 00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:37,279 you beat up your spouse and get charged with such, 486 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,200 you lose your permit. Like you get these things taken 487 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,359 away for violating the law. So as long as you 488 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:48,359 don't get it taken away, why should you have to 489 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,720 keep renewing it. Representative Jay Adams at Kataba County Republican 490 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:55,480 encountered that somebody can go off the deep end two 491 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:57,960 days after getting any permit or license, and the permit 492 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,720 doesn't prevent bad behavior. Exactly right. I go out and 493 00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:03,759 get a concealed handgun permit, go through the whole process, 494 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,480 get the permit. Now I have it, and then I 495 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,839 have a mental breakdown, and I'll have to say that 496 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,440 is that it is that politically incorrect. But anyway, I 497 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,200 have an episode and the permit doesn't stop me from 498 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,240 doing something bad. In March, the Senate passed a bill 499 00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:20,599 along party lines that would allow somebody to carry a 500 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,920 concealed handgun without a permit. House Speaker Destin Hull said 501 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,359 Republicans do plan to take up the constitutional carry the 502 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,079 full repeal this session, but he said, whether we have 503 00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:33,839 a requirement for a permit in this state or not, 504 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,000 they're still useful for folks because they get a permit 505 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:40,319 here that they can use in other states. That's exactly right. 506 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,000 So even in a constitutional carry state, I would still 507 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,119 get that handgun, the concealed handgun permit, because I would 508 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,519 want the ability to go to another state and still 509 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:56,079 have a permit with reciprocity that they recognize in that 510 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,839 state as well. So me personally, I would not utilize 511 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,519 constitutional carry. I would still keep a permit, So a 512 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:08,319 lifetime permit would be very very awesome. All right, that'll 513 00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:11,000 do it for this episode. 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