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Speaker 3: ninety As you could expect, a lot of reaction to
Speaker 3: the NFL Draft, will continue to do that. A lot
Speaker 3: of talk about Tyler Shuck in New Orleans. Hated to
Speaker 3: see how much the New Orleans fans, New New Orleans
Speaker 3: Saints fans seem to not like what their their their
Speaker 3: team decided to do as far as their their second
Speaker 3: round pick. I mean again, if you if you're taking
Speaker 3: in the second round early as a quarterback, I mean
Speaker 3: I have a hard time thinking there's ever a scenario
Speaker 3: where that franchise the draft shoe, they're not hiring you
Speaker 3: to eventually be their franchise quarterback. It doesn't always work
Speaker 3: out that way. But with Derek Carr's injury being I
Speaker 3: guess even a little more serious than folks realized, I
Speaker 3: think that was one of the things that was somewhat
Speaker 3: of a of a of a news item leading up
Speaker 3: to the draft is that his shoulder injury.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not it doesn't look good.
Speaker 3: So that could give Shuck an opportunity and where he
Speaker 3: has maybe not the ceiling as a as some other
Speaker 3: quarterbacks like a Cam Warder, maybe even a Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd say the floor is really high for him,
Speaker 3: and you know, watching him and I know, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just one year. I mean, he can make all
Speaker 3: the throws. He's not perfect, but what's really been, you know,
Speaker 3: funny And I've not been in any way like triggered
Speaker 3: by it because to me, it's funny. It's not I
Speaker 3: mean the past that he had in one he had
Speaker 3: an interception against Boston College in the first half that
Speaker 3: it might be honestly one of the as good as
Speaker 3: he was this year, and who knows, maybe he has
Speaker 3: a great NFL career. It might have been one of
Speaker 3: the worst interceptions I've ever seen. I think he was
Speaker 3: a lot more he just kind of like chucks it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he was trying to throw it out of bounds,
Speaker 3: but he did a poor attempt at that and it
Speaker 3: was like he just underhand lobbed it to somebody to,
Speaker 3: you know, to take it the other way. And then
Speaker 3: there was there was the pass at the combine that
Speaker 3: of course went viral, and obviously those weren't good looks,
Speaker 3: but I mean, he ninety nine percent of the time
Speaker 3: looked really good.
Speaker 2: And those were clearly outliers. So the tape speaks for itself.
Speaker 3: And I don't say that as somebody to try to
Speaker 3: act like I can break down film like I'm some
Speaker 3: big football guy, but I mean he's good. And that's
Speaker 3: why it was a weird year for Louisville fans, because
Speaker 3: you had those losses early that made it pretty clear
Speaker 3: you were going to have a really, really tough time
Speaker 3: competing for the ACC championship and even of course the
Speaker 3: playoff too, and it just kind of felt like, man,
Speaker 3: we're we have a really good quarterback who's showing that
Speaker 3: he's special, and yet we are losing. And typically Louisville
Speaker 3: is able to I mean, some of our biggest season's
Speaker 3: biggest moments. I don't want to act like it was
Speaker 3: all quarterback play, but I mean we've been really really
Speaker 3: spoiled at quarterback. We had that conversation a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago, just as far as guys that are, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, some of our worst quarterbacks really weren't that bad.
Speaker 3: And when you think of some of the big moments
Speaker 3: that Louisville football has had, quarterback play was usually a
Speaker 3: big part of it. And this year was again like
Speaker 3: it just felt like, man, are we going to end
Speaker 3: up having a season that ends up being you know,
Speaker 3: mid And it wasn't that. I think it was a
Speaker 3: fine season, a good season. Honestly, it wasn't bad. I
Speaker 3: just think we know it could have been a little
Speaker 3: bit better. But it really felt like that at times
Speaker 3: because we're thinking, Okay, we only get this guy one year.
Speaker 3: He's twenty five years old. Let's really try to maximize
Speaker 3: what we can do with this guy because he's special,
Speaker 3: and you know, I think he's going to have an
Speaker 3: early opportunity because I mean, I don't know enough about
Speaker 3: the hierarchy of the Saints organization meeting do they let
Speaker 3: a coach have influence on who they want to pick?
Speaker 3: But if you hire Kellen Moore as your new head
Speaker 3: coach and this is his first season, I mean I
Speaker 3: have a hard time thinking that he wasn't somebody advocating
Speaker 3: for them to go ahead and take Tyler Schuck. He
Speaker 3: wants a quarterback to work with and he probably no
Speaker 3: offense to Derek Carr. But even if Derek Carr is healthy,
Speaker 3: he's not at this I don't think Carr at this
Speaker 3: point in his career as a guy that you know,
Speaker 3: if there's a new head coach coming in, like Kellen Moore,
Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna want his own guy, because if
Speaker 3: Derek Carr's poor play his struggles if of course, you
Speaker 3: know that was to play out.
Speaker 2: Like, it's just the same thing.
Speaker 3: If it's like if you're an athletic director at a school,
Speaker 3: if you take over as an AD and you've already
Speaker 3: got a coach or you've already got a football coach
Speaker 3: that's really not succeeding, you're gonna want to get your
Speaker 3: own guys so you can then you know, at least
Speaker 3: have some say so. Because again, if you're viewed based
Speaker 3: off of somebody you didn't hire, I mean.
Speaker 2: That's that's rough. So if cars out there.
Speaker 3: Playing injured or just you know, not being very good
Speaker 3: like he's been in recent years, meaning you know he
Speaker 3: hasn't been good in recent years, I mean I feel
Speaker 3: like Kellen Moore is gonna think, Look, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: My livelihood's at stake here too. I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna go down with this guy. I want to
Speaker 3: go down my own guy. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: But yeah, kind of a bummer to.
Speaker 2: See Schuck.
Speaker 3: Be not very not a very popular decision, according you know,
Speaker 3: according to most of the Saints fans that were expressing
Speaker 3: their opinion on Friday evening. We didn't talk a whole
Speaker 3: lot about the others. But Ashton Jalotti also taken on
Speaker 3: Friday night. Good situation for him. I mean, he's going
Speaker 3: to a really, really good organization that of course has
Speaker 3: been insanely successful. I mean, I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: stretch to say they've absolutely been a dynasty. They felt
Speaker 3: short in the Super Bowl this year to the Eagles,
Speaker 3: but clearly this this Chiefs team, I don't see it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd be highly shocked if they're not really
Speaker 3: really good for years to come. And you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know about the depth chart in Kansas City, but
Speaker 3: I know Ashton's a talented guy that you know, wouldn't
Speaker 3: be shocked if he gets some early reps and makes
Speaker 3: an impact, and then also Quincy Riley reunited with with
Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 2: In New Orleans.
Speaker 3: He was taken on Saturday, early afternoon. So those were
Speaker 3: the three level players that were taken. I don't think
Speaker 3: there was a fourth.
Speaker 2: Was there.
Speaker 3: A lot of guys ended up signing free agent deals,
Speaker 3: but one guy that has yet to sign with an
Speaker 3: NFL team unless he has done so since the show started.
Speaker 3: And I don't really mean to me, there's got to
Speaker 3: be something to this, but maybe maybe not. But the
Speaker 3: fact that ja Cory Brooks didn't get drafted and then
Speaker 3: didn't sign an undrafted free agent deal and then didn't
Speaker 3: even get a rookie mini camp invite again, what do
Speaker 3: I know. I'm not somebody that's qualified to evaluate NFL
Speaker 3: talent for NFL teams, but I don't. I don't get that.
Speaker 3: I really don't. I mean, maybe he doesn't have like
Speaker 3: the upside to be an elite receiver at the NFL.
Speaker 3: Clearly the NFL didn't see it that way, But you've
Speaker 3: got guys that you know, I mean.
Speaker 2: Let's just put it in perspective here.
Speaker 3: Mark Redman, the tight end who was a reserve last
Speaker 3: year for Louisville, did not have a huge role.
Speaker 2: On the offense.
Speaker 3: I mean, he has signed with the with the Rams,
Speaker 3: full back Dwayne Martin. He got a rookie mini camp
Speaker 3: invite from the Seahawks. There's some other guys too that
Speaker 3: have signed. Quarterback Corey Thornton's signed with the Panthers. So again,
Speaker 3: je Cory Brooks, I just I mean, he did not
Speaker 3: end up having a whole lot of buzz. In fact,
Speaker 3: anything you read about him leading up to the draft,
Speaker 3: you know you'd see people highlight the fact that in
Speaker 3: the NFL he's going to be a pretty easy guy
Speaker 3: to guard, just based off some things that he lacks
Speaker 3: that are really needed to be an exceptional receiver. But
Speaker 3: he's not even getting like an opportunity. And I mean
Speaker 3: he got an did he get an invite to the combine?
Speaker 3: I feel like he did, And I don't remember hearing
Speaker 3: that like he had a bad showing, But you know,
Speaker 3: I have no insight at all. But for him, again cold,
Speaker 3: there's guys who rarely record any stats in college that
Speaker 3: at least get a sniff, not even based off of
Speaker 3: like potential, because if you had a lot of potential,
Speaker 3: then you probably would have been drafted.
Speaker 2: But like his production. This guy.
Speaker 3: He led Alabama in receiving touchdowns when Bryce Young was
Speaker 3: a senior r at Louisville. Although it's a step back
Speaker 3: that from Alabama. He was sensational this last year. So
Speaker 3: part of me says that there's something we don't know
Speaker 3: that it's keeping NFL teams from giving this guy an opportunity.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's not fair for me to say, but he
Speaker 3: was too good in college, playing at a really high
Speaker 3: level for the majority of his career, and I thought
Speaker 3: the Louisville season here was kind of a confirmation that, yeah,
Speaker 3: he got hurt, lost his spot at Alabama, because you
Speaker 3: know that happens when you're at Alabama, you get hurt.
Speaker 3: There's guys waiting in line that picked Alabama over every
Speaker 3: school in the country that if they get some reps
Speaker 3: and they get in rhythm, they're not coming out until
Speaker 3: they get hurt, you know what I mean. Like, that's
Speaker 3: just how it works at Bama. I thought him coming
Speaker 3: to Louisville and really performing at a high level would
Speaker 3: make it to where he had a chance to get drafted.
Speaker 3: But he didn't get drafted and as of right now,
Speaker 3: has yet to sign with a team. In any way,
Speaker 3: could be his agent maybe realizing, hey, we're better than this.
Speaker 3: We're not taking a rookie camp invite. We're gonna we
Speaker 3: want an undrafted free agent deal, and we know our worth.
Speaker 3: But at this point, I would say, as we sit
Speaker 3: here on Monday afternoon, Slash, you know, I guess it's
Speaker 3: not evening yet, but like I feel like if you
Speaker 3: don't take an opportunity to, you know, take anything that
Speaker 3: comes your way, I don't know what other opportunity is
Speaker 3: going to get there. Or we'll talk a little more
Speaker 3: about the NFL Draft coming up here actually before too long,
Speaker 3: because I do want to let you guys hear from
Speaker 3: different folks that cover the NFL some voices you'll recognize
Speaker 3: that after Saturday, I'm sorry, after Friday night, you could
Speaker 3: tell they started to get information that they didn't have
Speaker 3: directly from their source before the first two days of
Speaker 3: the draft about shad Or Sanders. And to me, hearing
Speaker 3: the way should Or and his father handled the entire
Speaker 3: pre draft prep didn't surprise.
Speaker 2: Me in any way. And hearing how the NFL.
Speaker 3: Decided to collectively respond to it and handle it that
Speaker 3: also didn't surprise me in any way. And again it
Speaker 3: really stood out to me that I didn't really hear
Speaker 3: a whole lot of other people acknowledging. And maybe it's
Speaker 3: because it's a rather obvious thing that doesn't need to
Speaker 3: be said out loud. But imagine thinking the NFL needs you.
Speaker 3: I mean, even if you are a once in a
Speaker 3: lifetime talent, which Shudor Sanders is not, the NFL doesn't
Speaker 3: need you. You don't control anything. You're an employee.
Speaker 2: They own me.
Speaker 3: Like he quite literally handled it in a way that
Speaker 3: even if you've got the third pick or whatever it is,
Speaker 3: you got to sell me because I'm not coming to
Speaker 3: you if you pick me, because I just need to
Speaker 3: hear what your plan is for me and why why
Speaker 3: I should take the job, And like that's not what
Speaker 3: the NFL is, and it's pretty obvious. But again, like
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not calling Deon Sanders a bad dad
Speaker 3: because that would be unfair, but I don't think the
Speaker 3: way that his dad handled the hype stuff helped his
Speaker 3: son in any way.
Speaker 2: Because what I feel like would.
Speaker 3: Be a no brainer if you're Dion, would be like,
Speaker 3: make sure that your kid feels.
Speaker 2: Confident in his ability and he's you know, and.
Speaker 3: I don't think you'd ever have to worry about that,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, But like, wouldn't it be
Speaker 3: a rather obvious thing? And you know, a good piece
Speaker 3: of advice for Deon Sanders to like let his kids
Speaker 3: know that Dad meaning prime, like he went out there
Speaker 3: and became this larger than life figure that could talk
Speaker 3: the talk and carry himself the way he carried himself because.
Speaker 4: He was a bad man.
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders is one of the most talented athletic athletes
Speaker 3: of all time. I mean, he wasn't just a phenomenal
Speaker 3: football player. He also played professional baseball and oh by
Speaker 3: the way, he didn't just make the roster, he was
Speaker 3: good at that too.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 3: Dion would want to make his kids know that, like,
Speaker 3: I didn't just start yapping and become an all time great.
Speaker 2: I went out there and I earned it. I proved it.
Speaker 3: His kids haven't done that, and yet they carry themselves
Speaker 3: like they have their dad's resume, and like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the Sanders family fault. And if
Speaker 3: it's truly based off like upside potential, yes, it sounds
Speaker 3: like he does have that. There's a lot to work
Speaker 3: with there, because you know, he's pretty gifted with his jeens, right,
Speaker 3: he's Deon Sanders' son. But it doesn't appear that the
Speaker 3: NFL felt like it was worth getting into that in
Speaker 3: any way because in order for him to you know,
Speaker 3: truly develop and really be a franchise quarterback that handles
Speaker 3: things the right way, that that can command the locker
Speaker 3: room and be the face of a franchise, there were
Speaker 3: seemingly endless red flags that that basically said, you know,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough for him to ever be the
Speaker 3: guy we need him to be because of all the
Speaker 3: baggage essentially. So again, we'll get into that coming up
Speaker 3: a little bit later on because I want you guys
Speaker 3: to hear some of the some of the sound from that.
Speaker 3: But let's talk about the the prank phone calls on
Speaker 3: on I guess both Friday and Saturday. It wasn't just
Speaker 3: should or Sanders they got a prank call, but there's
Speaker 3: also I think it was the Colts tight end they
Speaker 3: drafted in the first round, Tyler Warren, Bill's offensive tackle
Speaker 3: they selected Chase Lunt, they also received prank phone calls.
Speaker 3: And you know, as much as I've made it pretty clear.
Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, real sympathetic for Shad Or Sanders
Speaker 3: fall into the fifth round.
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 3: I guess it's when you prank call somebody. I mean,
Speaker 3: technically by definition, I guess you know that's a prank.
Speaker 3: But that's like, that's such a cruel thing to do.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I'm just trying to envision the lead
Speaker 3: up to this because we now know who did it, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, this is kind of low key in
Speaker 3: all time NFL story I think, I mean, just say
Speaker 3: it out loud. The young college son of an NFL
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator happened to obtain the list of numbers the
Speaker 3: NFL is given before the draft so they can call
Speaker 3: and let a player know that they're drafting them. And
Speaker 3: they decided to call shit Or Sanders, the most highly
Speaker 3: talked about publicized player in the draft, and prank him
Speaker 3: as if he was about to be drafted. Like that's
Speaker 3: something from a movie. But that's that's literally what happened.
Speaker 5: I feel like you also said last week we haven't
Speaker 5: had like a Laromie Tunsil moment.
Speaker 2: Well this is it.
Speaker 3: Yes, it didn't play out on television. It was strictly
Speaker 3: an internet thing that really just took off. But I'm
Speaker 3: not surprised he took off like that because again, like
Speaker 3: these are things that you know, I mean, I to me,
Speaker 3: I hope I'm using the word correct, Like this is cruel,
Speaker 3: this is like this is I mean, I think mean
Speaker 3: is an obvious word to use, but it's it's further
Speaker 3: than mean.
Speaker 5: Well I did I didn't know until you said it
Speaker 5: that they found out it was you said, a defensive
Speaker 5: coordinator son of an NFL You.
Speaker 2: Didn't know that.
Speaker 4: No, No, I haven't missed that man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Jack's Olbrooke.
Speaker 3: Uh he is the son what twenty one year old
Speaker 3: son of Falcons defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrooke. And it's muddy
Speaker 3: somebody was able to again, like with the internet now
Speaker 3: and social media, I mean, you're gonna you're you're going.
Speaker 4: To you're gonna get tracked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what happened because the kids video and
Speaker 3: themselves doing it. By the way, I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: think it was surely the kid in the video wasn't
Speaker 3: the son. So the the kid who got the number,
Speaker 3: he's not dumb enough to go on video and.
Speaker 2: Do it, because like his dad would choke.
Speaker 3: Him to death before he could hang up the phone,
Speaker 3: because like I mean, people even in people in the
Speaker 3: NFL would know, Hey, that's that's probably you know, So
Speaker 3: he probably got the number gave it to buddies. I
Speaker 3: think that's how they tracked it, is that the kids
Speaker 3: that did it, they were able to you know, they
Speaker 3: could they I guess, were able to track down who
Speaker 3: they were and they realized there was a connection to
Speaker 3: Jack's Olbrook, who again is the son of the Falcons
Speaker 3: of the Falcons.
Speaker 4: Divins video around it.
Speaker 3: I would assume not because he can't be that dumb, right, Like,
Speaker 3: he can't be that dumb.
Speaker 4: So I thought it was a guy that was calling
Speaker 4: him and acting like.
Speaker 3: So again like I could be wrong here because I don't.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't know him if he
Speaker 3: walked in here. But I feel like it wouldn't have
Speaker 3: taken that long for us to determine. And I say
Speaker 3: us like I did it. But it came out Sunday
Speaker 3: that that that it was that it was the Falcon's
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator's son that leaked the number. It can't be
Speaker 3: him in the video because you can't be that dumb
Speaker 3: like you could you should get this. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you are this guy's dad, meaning Jeff Ulbrick, like, I don't,
Speaker 3: I mean, I would be so disappointed and embarrassed. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's some real shameful stuff that there's clearly
Speaker 3: no excuse for. And a lot of times people do
Speaker 3: dumb stuff that brings embarrassment that you know, they realized
Speaker 3: there was a really stupid mistake and they shouldn't have
Speaker 3: done it, and even though it's wrong, you can at
Speaker 3: least understand that they Okay, they thought they'd get a
Speaker 3: good laugh. They thought this would I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, I'm sure you'll find people on
Speaker 3: the internet that will really hype this up as, oh,
Speaker 3: this was a great joke. But I feel like most people,
Speaker 3: even people that you know aren't necessarily good people who
Speaker 3: care about others, would acknowledge that's just that's just kind
Speaker 3: of crossing the line as far as being like cruel,
Speaker 3: like that's it's it's mean beyond being mean, And there's
Speaker 3: been some type of like I think it was Ian
Speaker 3: Rappaport who put it out that the NFL and the
Speaker 3: Falcons are not seeking any kind of like punishment or
Speaker 3: whatever for for the DC with the falcons, which you
Speaker 3: know he didn't do it, but like he also somehow
Speaker 3: let that information get compromised, and I don't think him
Speaker 3: being fired would have been a big surprise. Now, again,
Speaker 3: he didn't do it, and I'm sure he's I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't imagine there's a scenario where he doesn't. He's
Speaker 3: probably more upset than anybody about it because it's just,
Speaker 3: you know, it's connected to him. Like, there's nothing worse
Speaker 3: than disappointing your parents. I think the fear of letting
Speaker 3: your parents down is a comfortable thing that you should
Speaker 3: like always have. At least that's the way I see it,
Speaker 3: because you know, I want to make my parents proud
Speaker 3: as a as a man, as a father, that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff, and that's one of the things that like
Speaker 3: keeps me, you know, trying to be you know, be
Speaker 3: a good dude, be a good dad, that kind of stuff. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what kind of pun I mean,
Speaker 3: he's an adult. I don't know how you punish him.
Speaker 3: But what I love is that it's turned into like
Speaker 3: people throwing out like there's really no like I think
Speaker 3: I might have been stephen A Smith that said if
Speaker 3: if he was stephen A who said that, if you know,
Speaker 3: despite him being twenty years old, I think.
Speaker 2: He is like his dad should whip his ass.
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, well, you know, I guess technically he
Speaker 3: could do that, and like, you know, like he's a
Speaker 3: grown up. I'm sure he would probably try to fight
Speaker 3: back and not.
Speaker 2: Get beat up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was just that was just embarrassing. It
Speaker 3: made me realize that whenever we were kids and we
Speaker 3: would occasionally prank call people, like, we never did anything
Speaker 3: like to this level. We were just you know, having fun, like, hey,
Speaker 3: is your refrigerator running?
Speaker 2: Better go get it? Like I'm sure we didn't.
Speaker 3: Say that, but you know, actually I can tell you
Speaker 3: a good story about a prank call we did whenever
Speaker 3: I was in high school. We were freshmen at the time,
Speaker 3: and we called we called one of my and my
Speaker 3: buddy was We called my buddy's dad and he was
Speaker 3: there with us and he was like yeah, like he
Speaker 3: was cool with it. We thought that it would be
Speaker 3: he'd be a good candidate, that would give us a
Speaker 3: good laugh. Him not realizing it's a prank call, kind
Speaker 3: of getting his reaction. So we called him at This
Speaker 3: is at the time when like you didn't have Netflix,
Speaker 3: you didn't have anything like that. You didn't even have
Speaker 3: red Box. You had to go rent movies right at
Speaker 3: like Blockbuster. And there was a local video store in
Speaker 3: our area. I think it was called Video Vault, and
Speaker 3: this place had the curtain Austin. You may be too
Speaker 3: young to know about the curtain. Oh I know the
Speaker 3: the curtain. So I just wanted to go back there.
Speaker 3: So one are my buddies called uh called one of
Speaker 3: our buddies dad and told him that he had like
Speaker 3: a big late fee.
Speaker 2: And that like he you know, they need their money.
Speaker 3: And he mentioned, like he made up a bunch of
Speaker 3: you know, very inappropriate titles for adult rated movies, and
Speaker 3: you know, he mentioned that those were both like two
Speaker 3: weeks late and the and instead of like disputing it,
Speaker 3: like you got the wrong number or you know, who
Speaker 3: the hell is this? You know this is you know,
Speaker 3: could we call them at like midnight too, by the way,
Speaker 3: on his house phone, but instead of any dial he says, nope, nope,
Speaker 3: I took those back last week. And we just like
Speaker 3: we we couldn't stop from laughing, so we just hung
Speaker 3: up and that was it. But the best part of
Speaker 3: it was that for years, all throughout high school, we
Speaker 3: just assumed, like, damn, he really does like rent a
Speaker 3: lot of dirty movies, and he thought like they thought
Speaker 3: that he must have just thought that they didn't scan
Speaker 3: him as returned yet wow. Like, so we go on
Speaker 3: thinking like, this guy really loves to go behind the
Speaker 3: curtain at our local video store. And when we graduate.
Speaker 3: When we graduated, we all took pictures together outside of
Speaker 3: our high school, you know, the cap and gown pictures,
Speaker 3: and he came over, you know, around all of our
Speaker 3: other parents, and he came up to the three of us,
Speaker 3: and I don't remember what it was he said exactly.
Speaker 3: He might have said one of the titles, and we
Speaker 3: didn't even remember what we said. That what my buddy
Speaker 3: said the title was like he just made up names
Speaker 3: that he thought would be an adult porn movie, and
Speaker 3: he remembered one of them and mentioned it to us
Speaker 3: and then he laughed, and we were the whole time
Speaker 3: he knew it was us.
Speaker 2: They never said anything, isn't that good?
Speaker 4: That's good?
Speaker 2: Like we just you know, he was comfortable just.
Speaker 3: Having us think that he's you know, out here, you know,
Speaker 3: I guess there's something wrong with that, but like, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I just thought that that So that that's
Speaker 3: the level of prank phone call that we did.
Speaker 4: That's a good one.
Speaker 3: Whereas you know what what happened on the NFL Draft night,
Speaker 3: Like that's a again.
Speaker 2: I I'm I'm romantic about the draft.
Speaker 3: I talked about it a lot on Thursday, Like, I
Speaker 3: think it'd be one of the coolest moments ever to
Speaker 3: find out that you're everything you worked for is coming
Speaker 3: true and then for it to just be a gag
Speaker 3: like that's it's beyond lame. All right, quick break, We're
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Speaker 3: the statement that came in from Jack's Ouelbrook, who is
Speaker 3: the son of the Falcons dementsive coordinator. And again I tried,
Speaker 3: I guess not hard enough, but I tried to get
Speaker 3: to the bottom of it during the break to see
Speaker 3: if he was the actual caller that is on video,
Speaker 3: and I really don't. I don't know, but either way,
Speaker 3: the Falcons, I mean, they've confirmed that it was in
Speaker 3: fact the son of their DC who had the number
Speaker 3: and either he called or got it to somebody because
Speaker 3: he thought it would be funny. But this is the
Speaker 3: statement from the young man here on Friday night. I
Speaker 3: made a tremendous mistake sit or what I did was
Speaker 3: completely an excusable, embarrassing, and shameful. I'm so sorry I
Speaker 3: took away from your moment. It was selfish and childish.
Speaker 3: I could never imagine getting ready to celebrate one of
Speaker 3: the greatest moments of your life, and I made a
Speaker 3: terrible mistake and messed with that moment. Thank you for
Speaker 3: accepting my call earlier today. I hope you can find
Speaker 3: it in your hearts to forgive me. So somebody took
Speaker 3: that statement and did a little check for AI content
Speaker 3: and it was an entirely AI generated message. So I'm
Speaker 3: not going to defend this kid, who you know is
Speaker 3: the worst, but he could have. And again, I don't
Speaker 3: know about how you check for AI content as far
Speaker 3: as like scanning something to see if because I'm sure
Speaker 3: now like if you have to write like papers for class,
Speaker 3: I mean, you could use AI and it would probably
Speaker 3: be maybe better than your own work.
Speaker 2: But there's got to be a way for people.
Speaker 3: And I knew there was a I've known of a
Speaker 3: way to where people can kind of check to see
Speaker 3: if something came from an AI generated platform. But like
Speaker 3: maybe he wrote it and then did it did an
Speaker 3: AI like spell check or AI rewrite just to make
Speaker 3: sure it's it's you know, sending the right message, right.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe AI helped him, you know, you know, more
Speaker 3: carefully craft just how apologetic he was. But I also
Speaker 3: think that just any use of AI at all is
Speaker 3: going to make your apology not seem really sincere in
Speaker 3: any way. But yeah, that was an ald timer, and
Speaker 3: you're right, Austin, I said, there really hadn't been like
Speaker 3: a crazy you can't make this sub story surrounding the
Speaker 3: NFL draft, And you know, we got one, but it
Speaker 3: probably won't be remembered like the grass Mask was with
Speaker 3: the Laramie Tunsel, because no, probably not. This draft is
Speaker 3: all about shit or Sanders, and you know, we knew
Speaker 3: that going in, and the way it played out led
Speaker 3: to it. Like had he been taken early in the
Speaker 3: first round or maybe at some point anywhere in the
Speaker 3: first round, He's not talked about really at all the
Speaker 3: rest of the way, right, other than just acknowledging guys
Speaker 3: that were taken. But because he didn't get taken Friday
Speaker 3: and he had to wait until the fifth round on Saturday,
Speaker 3: I mean, it just became the dominant conversation. And I
Speaker 3: just I kept getting so annoyed by everybody acting.
Speaker 2: As if he's been wronged.
Speaker 3: And I think most folks that I you know, and
Speaker 3: I'm talking about and I'm not talking about mel Kuiper,
Speaker 3: because I mean, he was a clown, but and he
Speaker 3: kind of always has been.
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's never been.
Speaker 3: Good at predicting exactly where teams will go and predicting
Speaker 3: who's gonna end up being good or not. Like what
Speaker 3: folks have to realize is the people who help cover
Speaker 3: the draft for ESPN, NFL Network, whoever, I mean, they're entertainers.
Speaker 3: They're not they're not judged off being right or wrong.
Speaker 3: And Kuiper is one of those guys that has often
Speaker 3: been really wrong and then set out landish things that
Speaker 3: like clearly tells you that he knows that he's there
Speaker 3: to entertain, Like, didn't he he'd retire if somebody wasn't
Speaker 3: like an all time great quarterback?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jimmy Clawson, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, like Kuiper's been outspoken and really really strong about
Speaker 3: certain players saying certain things because technically that's what ESPN
Speaker 3: wants him to do. They don't pay him to be
Speaker 3: right about who's going to be great, and they never have.
Speaker 3: It's never been really what that is, it's entertainment. And again,
Speaker 3: if you just think about the lead up to the
Speaker 3: draft and all the talk that's out there, ask yourself,
Speaker 3: why would any NFL team ever share any information about
Speaker 3: what they intend to do with anybody. There's no scenario
Speaker 3: they could ever help them. In fact, them sharing information,
Speaker 3: the only way it could benefit them is to share
Speaker 3: fake information knowing that it's going to be spread out
Speaker 3: there and hopes that maybe they can throw somebody off
Speaker 3: about what they're gonna do, or maybe they could have
Speaker 3: another franchise have second thoughts about what they're going to do,
Speaker 3: so then they can swoop in and get a goa.
Speaker 3: I mean, look that, I'm sure that's happened a lot
Speaker 3: guys on the inside with these NFL teams talking to
Speaker 3: the you know, the talking heads that let us know
Speaker 3: about what's gonna happen, what they're hearing when it comes
Speaker 3: to the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they've dogged players.
Speaker 3: They really like in hopes of it getting out there
Speaker 3: that they stink, and then they can swoop in and
Speaker 3: take advantage of it. Because if we didn't do that,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have fallen to, you know, pick number thirteen
Speaker 3: to us, Like to me, sometimes you just got to
Speaker 3: consider what makes sense and what doesn't. So there were
Speaker 3: guys like Lou Riddick was one of them.
Speaker 2: Burga McFarland.
Speaker 3: I think even I think even rich Eisen to an extent,
Speaker 3: maybe even Rapaport, that were making it out as if
Speaker 3: the NFL had wronged Shad or Sanders. And to go
Speaker 3: back to what I said on Friday, once we got
Speaker 3: to Day two and he wasn't taken in the first round,
Speaker 3: nobody's entitled to be drafted like, the draft is not
Speaker 3: a competition. There's not a scoreboard, there's not stats. The
Speaker 3: draft is a decision and it's a job. They hire
Speaker 3: who they want to hire, and they can pick whoever
Speaker 3: they want. And what kept getting ignored despite it being
Speaker 3: a really obvious thing is that he wasn't the top
Speaker 3: quarterback in a really bad quarterback crop apparent according to
Speaker 3: everybody else, Like and again it played out that way
Speaker 3: right when you don't when when you get past the
Speaker 3: second round, maybe even past the third round, if you're
Speaker 3: drafting a quarterback, he might end up being your starter,
Speaker 3: but you're drafting him to be your backup. I think
Speaker 3: Chael Sanders, even on Saturday afternoon, if if grilled about it,
Speaker 3: like in an interview, I don't think he'd be able
Speaker 3: to control himself. If if he was asked about being
Speaker 3: a backup. I think he probably would just without even thinking,
Speaker 3: respond the way you would expect him, respond as if
Speaker 3: he's too good for that.
Speaker 2: No way he's going to be the starter.
Speaker 3: Now, if he says that with the real real message
Speaker 3: of he's gonna outwork everybody and he's going to prove
Speaker 3: people wrong, that's different. But that's not really what any
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really not what they've ever done. But
Speaker 3: I thought this this this was from Saturday afternoon, and
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Saturday morning, right before the third right before
Speaker 3: the rest of the draft took place, fourth through the
Speaker 3: seventh rounds. And to me, this this made so much sense.
Speaker 3: It was so predictable, and it was what I was in.
Speaker 2: Trust me.
Speaker 3: This isn't a Hey, I knew everything that was going on,
Speaker 3: and you all didn't trust me. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to figure out what makes sense here.
Speaker 3: And to hear this report from the NFL network, this
Speaker 3: made too much sense for it to not be why
Speaker 3: he ended up slotting. And if you just you know,
Speaker 3: hearing what you're about to hear from Tom Pelisari of
Speaker 3: the NFL Network, Pelisara, I should say, hearing everything you
Speaker 3: heard about Shadhor and Dion and then hearing how the
Speaker 3: NFL decided to respond to it, none of this should
Speaker 3: suppor you in any way. And if it does, here's
Speaker 3: what happened to you. You got a little too caught
Speaker 3: up in the TMZ type Sanders circus. That sounds like
Speaker 3: a real thing, doesn't it. The TMZ Sanders circus I'm
Speaker 3: sure that's not I mean just came up with that
Speaker 3: the top of my head, but like that's what this is.
Speaker 6: Mike was not a shock within the NFL and team
Speaker 6: buildings when Shador Sanders did not go in the first round.
Speaker 6: I would fairly tell you it is a surprise that
Speaker 6: he is still on the board at the start of
Speaker 6: day three. Philosophically, some teams feel like you're drafted at
Speaker 6: the quarterback position. Specifically, if you think you got a starter,
Speaker 6: you take him in round one. If you're drafting somebody
Speaker 6: to be your backup, you don't want to do that
Speaker 6: until day three. I spoke last night with one general
Speaker 6: manager who is considering taking Shador Sanders today. He pointed
Speaker 6: back all the way to March twenty twenty four and
Speaker 6: something that Chador's father, Dion Sanders said on a podcast
Speaker 6: talking about Bulls chadur and Travis Hunter, saying that if
Speaker 6: they are drafted by team that they don't want to
Speaker 6: go to, He's gonna step in and pull an ELI,
Speaker 6: meaning force those players to not actually go to that
Speaker 6: team and try to get them traded. Throughout the pre
Speaker 6: draft process, Shador Sanders very much proceeded as if he
Speaker 6: was dictating to clubs where he was going to go
Speaker 6: rather than how the draft works, which is the other
Speaker 6: way around. And there were a bunch of opportunities missed
Speaker 6: at the various checkpoints through that pre draft process, go
Speaker 6: all the way back to All Star season. Instead of
Speaker 6: going to the Senior Bowl, he went to the East
Speaker 6: West Shrine Bowl in his backyard in Dallas. Despite an
Speaker 6: NFL memo saying if you go to these All Star games,
Speaker 6: you have to practice, Shadur chose not to. At the combine,
Speaker 6: it has now well documented some of his formal interviews
Speaker 6: did not go well. One assistant coach told me, in
Speaker 6: all his years, it was the worst formal interview he'd
Speaker 6: ever been through. People said that Shador was trying to
Speaker 6: dictate how he wanted things to go and made them
Speaker 6: feel small. Even at the Pro Day, the entire Big
Speaker 6: Twelve have an event in Dallas. Chadur was there but
Speaker 6: did not work out. He had a showcase instead in Colorado.
Speaker 6: All of which is to say for a player who
Speaker 6: had a variety of questions both about the talent level,
Speaker 6: how we would fit into an NFL system, how he
Speaker 6: would adjust from his play style in college, but also
Speaker 6: about the potential culture shock for the first time playing
Speaker 6: for someone who is not his father. There were opportunities
Speaker 6: that Shaduur sators could have taken. There he seemed to
Speaker 6: feel as if he was in an elite category where
Speaker 6: he could choose the few teams he wanted to go to. Now,
Speaker 6: some of those very same teams that might be considering
Speaker 6: taking Shaduur today didn't get those opportunities. To answer their
Speaker 6: question what teams want on these visits?
Speaker 3: And we so, I mean again, does any of that
Speaker 3: surprise you at all?
Speaker 2: It shouldn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, he handled everything as if he was going
Speaker 3: to be able to decide wherever he wanted to go
Speaker 3: because everybody wanted him, and that's just not reality. Say
Speaker 3: what you will about his ability, that's just not reality
Speaker 3: of how any of this works. And for no one
Speaker 3: to be able to, you know, let him know that
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to go wherever you get taken, because
Speaker 3: you should be lucky that somebody wants to take you.
Speaker 3: And it's not because it would be like a gift,
Speaker 3: like I think if somebody took him it would early.
Speaker 3: It would be because they did believe that he had the
Speaker 3: upside and potential to be really really good.
Speaker 2: But he's not.
Speaker 3: He's never shown at any point that he's got some
Speaker 3: ability that like you just will never see again. And
Speaker 3: I just to me, I'm thinking, if you if there
Speaker 3: are teams that didn't even get the chance to really
Speaker 3: vet the situation with you, to see if they wanted
Speaker 3: to pick you because you felt like you were too
Speaker 3: good and you didn't want to talk to them because
Speaker 3: they didn't have an early enough pick. You have nothing.
Speaker 3: You have nobody to blame but yourself as to why
Speaker 3: you're still sitting there on day three. This is pretty simple,
Speaker 3: Like this is their own fault. He probably would have
Speaker 3: been taken earlier had he, you know, understood that. Like
Speaker 3: he's not gonna decide these teams decide, and I mean
Speaker 3: Dion again, Like I'm pretty sure he thinks he's just
Speaker 3: doing his best to support his son. And this I'm
Speaker 3: not saying he's a bad dad, but like, how I mean,
Speaker 3: can Dion be surprised whenever he finds out that saying
Speaker 3: this led to teams not wanting to take his son.
Speaker 7: Teams that I won't allow him to play for Woo.
Speaker 7: This is my profession. I know what's behind the curtain.
Speaker 7: We ain't got to get back there for me to
Speaker 7: understand what's not prominent for my son. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 7: He doesn't listen to you. Who, No, you must mean owners,
Speaker 7: not my son. Have you told him privately who you
Speaker 7: would like for him to play for. It's not like
Speaker 7: who I would like for him to play for. It's
Speaker 7: a couple of teams that I won't allow him to
Speaker 7: play for.
Speaker 2: So again they're delusional. They think that again.
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders is one of the best athletes probably ever
Speaker 3: when you consider how talented he was and how good
Speaker 3: he was at both football, and he was also good
Speaker 3: at baseball. Not just a guy who played both, he
Speaker 3: was good at both. But that has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with his son. I mean they carry themselves as if
Speaker 3: the whole family has accomplished what Dion has accomplished. And
Speaker 3: Dion is an acquired taste I think because of his
Speaker 3: confidence in himself. Some would say his arrogance, but you
Speaker 3: know what, He's actually done, some real things that give
Speaker 3: you a good, good indication as to why he feels
Speaker 3: the way he feels about himself and what he's done.
Speaker 3: I just think it would be a little wise of
Speaker 3: him to have let his kids know that he had
Speaker 3: to go earn that he had actually do something to
Speaker 3: get there, whereas she'd or it's not a bad quarterback
Speaker 3: by any means, But like the notion that like you're
Speaker 3: going to be able to dictate at all because you're
Speaker 3: that good, that's not living with the rest of the
Speaker 3: world in reality.
Speaker 2: That's called delusion.
Speaker 3: And there's more that we can play from, you know,
Speaker 3: just others sharing what their experience was like when they decide,
Speaker 3: you know, when they consider potentially taking him in the draft.
Speaker 3: So again, like I guess he can prove a lot
Speaker 3: of these guys wrong, but like, I just don't see
Speaker 3: how anybody can be surprised that this played out the
Speaker 3: way that it did because again, imagine the NFL needing
Speaker 3: any specific player to be successful. They don't quick break
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Speaker 3: Wrapping up the four o'clock hour here on a Monday afternoon,
Speaker 3: we still got another hour to go, so stick around.
Speaker 3: We'll talk a little more derby, not necessarily the race itself,
Speaker 3: but the updated prices for a lot of things that
Speaker 3: you'll be looking to purchase, although I guess if you are,
Speaker 3: I mean, is everything still all inclusive? I feel like
Speaker 3: that's the way they've been doing it the last few years,
Speaker 3: which when you buy a ticket, yeah, yeah, which means
Speaker 3: which makes sense as to why it's so expensive to
Speaker 3: get a ticket. I mean that that really does that
Speaker 3: really does make it, you know, kind of pay for itself.
Speaker 3: But then again, so if you're there, I guess this,
Speaker 3: I would imagine all inclusive is probably just for just
Speaker 3: for the Ohlks and Derby No, because you know, like
Speaker 3: there'd be no prices if everybody who gets in with
Speaker 3: the ticket had had to pay right like you know,
Speaker 3: So anyways, we'll get into that because that you could expect,
Speaker 3: like a lot of things, it's it's not cheap, but
Speaker 3: I'm of the belief that they could charge whatever for
Speaker 3: tickets whatever, and people would pay.
Speaker 2: Get you that down, thank you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I maybe I'm wrong, Like clearly you will
Speaker 3: price out certain people at a certain at a certain
Speaker 3: you know cap But I don't know, Austin, You've been
Speaker 3: there on Derby Day and with our credentials we get
Speaker 3: access to you know, a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can kind of go wherever we want
Speaker 2: for the most.
Speaker 3: Part, Yes, And I just feel like, yeah, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm just maybe I'm just judging based off of
Speaker 3: like appearance, but like I kind of feel like this
Speaker 3: could be triple the price and these people would all
Speaker 3: still be here, you know what I.
Speaker 4: Mean, like and they would have missed a beat. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So and I you know, I I'm not going to
Speaker 3: knock Churchill downs because who am I to try to
Speaker 3: tell them how to run their business?
Speaker 2: But I think they know that too. By the way,
Speaker 2: Like for those that have that have had.
Speaker 3: The complaints, and I think they're they're they're legitimate complaints
Speaker 3: that Churchill doesn't really appeal to the average Kentucky and
Speaker 3: a native that that you know that used to go
Speaker 3: because of the price and everything. Well, you know, it's
Speaker 3: their business and they can do whatever they want. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, i'd say that, uh, there's no end in
Speaker 3: sight for their success, right, I mean, they're gonna be,
Speaker 3: They're gonna be. I mean, this is something that you know,
Speaker 3: I have much more awareness of it now that I
Speaker 3: get to you know, I'm in the industry that I'm in,
Speaker 3: but it is one of the biggest sporting events on
Speaker 3: the planet. So you know, with that, there's really you know,
Speaker 3: there's enough people across the planet that enjoy this enough
Speaker 3: to where if if you know, they made they made
Speaker 3: it even more expensive.
Speaker 2: People would still be there because it's the thing to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, the.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of boben Field where the private
Speaker 3: jets come in. Have you ever seen pictures of that Austin.
Speaker 5: Yes, I've been over there before when it for Derby
Speaker 5: though like whenever, no, no, no, I have it.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: So a lot of the private jets that come in
Speaker 3: for Derby, like you know Tom Brady when he brings
Speaker 3: the Patriots and all that, those kind of people they
Speaker 3: fly they're private jets over there, and there's pictures from
Speaker 3: over the years, and just to see how many of
Speaker 3: those jets there are it really because again, like I
Speaker 3: feel like if you have a private jet or access
Speaker 3: to one of your riding on one, like little old me,
Speaker 3: I just think like, man, you must be a big deal,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, like to see the
Speaker 3: amount of people who travel here that way makes it
Speaker 3: you know, it's one of the many things that kind
Speaker 3: of puts it in perspective for me as to just
Speaker 3: how big of a deal the Derby is, which again
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of people listening know that, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's you know what I used to think of Churchill Downs.
Speaker 3: I used to just think about when I would go,
Speaker 3: like as a kid, not for Derby, some some oaks,
Speaker 3: but just like the visual of the paddock and whatnot,
Speaker 3: it just doesn't look like that anymore, and that doesn't
Speaker 3: you know, in a way it kind of makes me
Speaker 3: sad for like nostalgic reasons, but also like if you've
Speaker 3: been over there recently, it looks freaking beautiful, Like the
Speaker 3: place is nice as can be. So yeah, I'm getting
Speaker 3: the Derby.
Speaker 2: I'm getting in the Derby spirit.
Speaker 4: You'll feel it, You'll feel a Friday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's it's a big even
Speaker 3: if you're like, again, I've made it clear, I'm not
Speaker 3: really big into horse racing, just because it's not something
Speaker 3: I know a whole lot about and wasn't really exposed
Speaker 3: to it a whole lot growing up around here. But
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you could be even more anti
Speaker 3: horse and I'm not anti.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, I don't think you have.
Speaker 3: To be in any way knowledgeable or give a damn
Speaker 3: about horse racing the sport to to just feel the
Speaker 3: vibe around this city whenever we get here to this week,
Speaker 3: and it's it's a special thing.
Speaker 2: So good good stuff.
Speaker 3: All right, we got another hour coming your way, and
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that it's some good stuff. We'll get back
Speaker 3: into the draft recap because I do think there's more
Speaker 3: worth here when it comes to just to me, I
Speaker 3: think it's an explanation that really makes total sense, and
Speaker 3: maybe we didn't even need the explanation because it was
Speaker 3: probably pretty obvious to a lot of people like myself
Speaker 3: as to why shid or Sanders slip the way he did. Also,
Speaker 3: a college basketball thing, I want to get into the
Speaker 3: acc they're doing something when it comes to basketball to
Speaker 3: kind of prove what we all know. I guess what
Speaker 3: they're doing is going to prove it. They're not trying
Speaker 3: to prove it, but they're going to make a scheduling change,
Speaker 3: which again confirms that they realize now that their league
Speaker 3: is not very good in hoops and they need to.
Speaker 2: Do something about it.
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