Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of
geek First podcast Weekly Geek. I am one of your hosts,
the young Blood Taylor Field, and I'm joined by I'm
the Starfighter Dyl Muss Starfighter. Yes, we are here because
we got some pretty awesome news to talk about. I mean,
this is just the blessings from the gods tonight. Oh
my goodness, we got preda trailer pret Badland, specifically Star.
Speaker 2: Wars Taylor centric episode. I would say in terms of
the topics, which is great, happy for.
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Speaker 2: How was that as good as season one so far?
Speaker 1: I think it's it's keeping that that bar up high.
It's nice, it's it's amazing how it doesn't rely on
the crutch of Star Wars like oh, here's a Jedi,
here's a Scyth. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's just damn good
storytelling and you can easily forget that it's in Star Wars,
but you get subtle reminders like, oh this is this
is Star Wars, and in a very good way. So
highly recommend it, highly recommend it. What else is cook in?
Right now? We have Last of Us? How can I
forget Last of Us? Season two. Those are on the Sundays.
Those are popping off and in the books right now.
I believe we're going to be lending a you final
season review as well. Were you joining that for that, Dylan,
I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I was surprised to how you said in the books.
I was like, Oh, are we doing like book reviews now?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Like? Is there a weekly book episode?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: We had side quests for video games? Are we adding
like you know, the book verse like a weekly novel?
But I am far behind on you. I think I've okay,
seen season two, maybe three, but yeah, I'm I'm way behind.
So that book is for you and the.
Speaker 1: Boys, Okay, Yeah, so you can expect that coming soon.
Speaker 2: It started in a bookstore, so that's actually.
Speaker 1: A good It did start a bookstore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going back back to the same bookstore for.
Speaker 1: The that's right. Uh yeah. Lots of stuff popping off
on the main feeds. What's what's going on in your world?
There was side quest Dylan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right after this, we're going to be recording this week,
so it's a little late this week, but we're gonna
talk about Oblivi in. We're talking about named Mario kard
direct from last week to talked about your some switch
to thoughts because you haven't been on side Quest since
the switch to Goten like truly shown off and all that.
So it should be a nice, nice juicy episode there
and then we're back to regular Tuesday releases. The last
few weeks have been a bit hectic, but we'll be
back on the straight and narrow pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Here beautiful, Oh okay, and yeah, I think that that
does it. So we can just crack on into our
main show stopping topic right here. And this is the uh,
the legendary trailer for pred Er bad Lands has arrived,
so uh, we'll break this down and then we'll kind
of segue off because there's there's a few things that
kind of spread out from this trailer. But give me
your give me your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this, I mean, this is a teaser is
what they call on it, right, So it's a little
I guess there is a decent amount of footage in here,
but like there for me, I don't know, I was
looking for a little more sauce to it. It just
seemed a little generic. I'm not gonna lie, which is
gonna be maybe a bit of a theme for a
lot of these trailers coming out tonight.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm missing something also because not to
you know, jump ahead here, but like there's people are
walking on like this being like alien like aliens in
here and setting out a VP, and like I didn't
see a single alien thing in here. So maybe I
have a very small brain, very possible, But I feel
like I need you to walk me through. I shake
my hand and leave your hand on a married chase
because I don't know, I feel like I'm missing some
of the fun details where this seemed like, you know,
totally solid. I really like to pray this is the
same director, right, So I'm like, I'm sure it'll be great.
She'll be just as good.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I was I couldn't find
the sauce on my own. So I need you to
lead me to that bountiful nectar.
Speaker 1: I guess I will take you there. I will baptize
you in that nectar and take you back. Okay, Yeah,
this trailer was my goodness, I was not expecting it.
What was going on? It was Yeah, it was a
couple days ago when it dropped and I was on
my lunch break and I was looking up random things
about and Or and just like talking, and Travis's casually like, oh,
what do you think of that Predator trailer? I'm like what,
I'm well, here googling and Or facts and there's a
Predator trailer.
Speaker 2: So just like season one facts, not even like new stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so check the trailer out, and holy smokes, this
is this is such a new and fresh take for Predator.
We've never had anything like this in the future outside
of the video games, so to get it in a
cinematic state like this, this is this is just crazy, crazy,
crazy crazy. They are going way off the deep end
into Predator lore and the like their culture, everything like that,
and probably just one of my favorite things about Predators
in general, it's just all of these films are all
anthology movies. There's i'd say, Predator two is obviously a
direct sequel to the first Predator, but everything else, it
all just is like mentions to that first Predator movie.
And then they have East Raggs of course sprinkled throughout,
and this is just another one of those scenarios. It's
it's its own anthology film, whether or not. And we'll
talk more about how this connects to maybe an a
VP after, but I just think that this is this
is an awesome potential setup for what is to come,
and the idea as well of just this young blood
predator who's exiled from his clan and he has to
go and regain his honor by killing an alien creature
that is supposedly unkillable to be welcome back into his clan. Hell, yes,
sign me up. That's just that's so simple. I'm there
and just have the Predator as the main protagonist. Really
like that. The cons now surrounding the look of the Predator.
I understand a lot of people have a problem with
this thing because it's People are saying, oh, it's kind
of got human attributes and facial qualities to it. I
can understand that, and it does resemble certain things along
those lines. But at the end of the day, I
prefer this over the Predator from Prey, the Predator in Pray.
I really have never been a fan of that look.
I've always been a fan of just like the original
and the Predator from Alien Versus pread Requiem, Like the
movies have constantly always changed the look from the original No.
Two Predators have ever been the same in terms of design,
So they dip their toes.
Speaker 2: Is that a thing that we like have a lower
implication of why that? Like, I guess it's just like
the variety on this planet where they come from, right,
They just different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's exactly. It come from different places, different
continents on on their planet, different planets, whatever, different tribes.
But it's not the only It's not the first time
we've seen a different predator and the movie Predators, we've
seen Okay, there's a different species that that is there,
So there's we know there's different types, and I think
people are forgetting that with this. And I'm not crapping
on the community, but there's just a sense of miscommunication
here because while the movie was maybe code named No
Man's Land at one point before it was bad Lands,
I'm seeing lots of people come out saying I thought
this was going to be a World War One movie
with the trenches and with the predator fighting soldiers like that.
No no, no, no, no, no, So there there's.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't remember that rumor.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: That's not something that I was expecting going into this.
It's funny, like I feel like, you know, he kind
of looks like the run to the litter a bit,
but like he looks just as ugly as any other predator,
which is like a good thing. It's an attribute you
want for a predator, right, So yes, I was a
little surprised I heard. I heard the chatter all day
and then I finally watched a trailer later I was like,
this guy fits right in. I don't know, I couldn't
pick him out of a line in terms of how
different or weird or uglier looks on the other ones.
Speaker 1: And that's that's perfect. I mean, it fits with the
with Schwarzenegger, like, you know, one ugly mother fuck. He's
a bad accent, but that's that's what he says. So
it fits with the cards. And I think they're not
supposed to I'm not supposed to look like great. I
think people have a problem with the ponytail look as well.
There's definitely a Viking kind of tone to him. But
this is something where they wanted to do a practical effect.
They wanted to do like well, animatronic pincers and everything
like that, but they couldn't do it in the sense
that he's the main character and they have to have
a lot of emotion come from his face and a
lot of expression, the expression more than emotion, and that's
something they had to Cegi. So you're gonna see, Okay,
his face is really more cgi than practical, like we've
seen in all the past predator movies. So there is
that and that might cause because for why he looks
a little bit off and people have a problem with him.
But I think the big thing is that people are
upset with like his hairline being an issue and whatnot,
just how he looks. But oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
a young predator. I mean predators, to my knowledge, I'm
pretty sure they can live for hundreds of years. They
can get really really old, and so this one is
very very young. So he's I see it as he's
a young predator. He's got growing to do where his
forehead probably becomes more elongated and then his tendril like
whatever hair kind of grows up. So there's lots going
on there. But I think people need to just relax.
I've seen a lot of people say that this movie
looks terrible and horrible and whatnot, But like, to each
his own. If you don't want to spend the money
to go see it. Don't go and see it. But
my two cents are, we're getting a movie that takes
place like one hundred to two hundred years in the future.
We're gonna see predators that are more advanced than what
we've seen now because their technology is gonna have quadrupled
and advanced, and we're gonna see predators hunting predators. We're
gonna see just so much more backstory and character and
the fact that we got a predator teaming up with
a air quotes human. I think this is gonna be
a lot of fun with Ellie Fanning's character. Yeah, so
you say you didn't see any alien, not any rate.
Speaker 2: And I went on YouTube and I saw our thumbnail
for the for our episode here, and I feel like
the trailer I watch had the same shot. There's just
not an alien on the trailer I watched. So maybe
I watched the trailer. I don't know which happens. Sometimes
we all know Kirklands got caught up in that with
Last of Us, so maybe I'm maybe I'm a fool. Well,
is there a xenomorph in this trailer, like a straight
up xenomorph?
Speaker 1: There is no xenomorph in.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's going over with our thumbnail?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: Like this is just this is a chat gyptique. What's
going on here?
Speaker 1: I can get why Travis put that in there just
to kind of get it kind of Okay, yeah, we're
click baiting. Uh so yeah, let let's just let's break
this down. Let's get this juice going. So uh the
you know Fannings character right here thumbnail? So do you
recognize what it's on her eyes? It's it's a bit
blurry of a photo. No, I don't, do you remember
I I can't remember the name of the android from
Alien Romulus when he went into that like shutdown mode
and his eyes we kicked back.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what's going on here.
Speaker 1: Let's go on here and you can actually when you
zoom in. Of course you can't see it here. It's
the back quality photo. But her eyes have the wyor
whalen Utanni Corporation on her eyes.
Speaker 2: Full power. Okay.
Speaker 1: She's also wearing a jacket with the whale U tiny
logo on it. And to top that off, here's another
shot from the trailer. Look at the logo on that
vehicle on the right hand side next to the predator.
Speaker 2: Ah yes, bottom right of the vehicle.
Speaker 1: There there we go whalen Utanis that's the big like cahoonez?
Is that? Okay, We've got this is this is the
set up here. Now we're basically in that timeline of
where Alien Romulus takes place, and now we have a
predator adventure happening here and the company is involved too.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so sorry, catch me up. Like with where
this is set. You said there's two hundred years in
the future, right.
Speaker 1: I'm loosely gauging that is around that time.
Speaker 2: So in relation to the Alien series, is it closest
to Romulus in the timeline? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1: My my best guess, and someone could probably fine, and.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't think. I don't know if we
have like precise numbers for.
Speaker 1: Some of this. I could not give you precise numbers,
but I'd say, give or take within like fifty years
before or after the events of like Alien Romulus and
or the first Alien movie. I feel like that's where
this is going to be taking place. That's my my guesstimation.
Speaker 2: However, Okay, I mean a lot can happen in fifty years,
but that at least puts us in that ballpark where
there's a few different possibilities of what could be going
on there.
Speaker 1: M hm hm. So that's that's the that's the big,
the big thing where we're just kind of like leading
up to it, and there's been lots of talk. I mean,
we put a pizza bet down right for a VP three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let me ask you this on the pizza
bet front. If a XENOMORPHO is in this movie, let's say,
even post credit scene, do I get my pizza? Does
that count as this or does it have to be
a movie that has alien Versus Predator in their title?
I don't think we I don't think we ever like
talked about that necessarily, but I maybe I should have
specified in that pizza bet, like does the movie have
to be called Alien vers Predator? Could it just be
that they're in a movie together Alien, you're a predator.
Speaker 1: Gotta be in a movie together? Because that was even
some of the things that Dan how do you say
track and Trackenberg Tracktenburg, That was some of the things
he was alluding to where it would be so awesome
if you're watching an alien movie. I think it was
Dan that was saying this. It might have been maybe
it was Fede Alvarez. It's one of the two legendary directors,
and they were saying how it'd be so cool if
you're watching an alien movie. The alien's like fighting and
da da da, and all of a sudden, it's like,
holy shit, there's a predator in the background, and it's
like you're thinking you're in for an alien movie, but
then it's an alien versus predator movie. And you know what,
if you get your alien in this movie, I one
hundred percent think that qualifies for the pizza.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Do you think this is gonna be something that's gonna
be like for us at this point, it wouldn't really
be as much of a surprise, I suppose, But I
feel like a lot of the casual viewers probably won't.
Maybe they'll see the trailer, but they might miss those
little detail. They might not think about it, and maybe
they'll maybe they'll be surprised, maybe the GA will get
that big pop. But the hardcore, I mean, I guess
if they don't actually show this xenomorph, it would still
be a big surprise even for the US and me
is of the world that I've seen that I've kind
of broken this down a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know if I mean, you get
the comics. There's lots of comics that have predators versus
aliens and whatnot, But I don't think most of the
GA is really aware of how interconnected these two franchises
are with aliens and predators. I think you have, oh,
the Alien movies that are one thing, and the Predators
that our own thing. And the last time we got
a crossover was the Predator, but it was extremely subtle
because then in the Trophy case in this secret human lab,
you see the alien staff that the girl was using
in Alien Versus Predator under the antarctics. So there's little
easter eggs that are crossovers. And then again Predator two
has an alien skull in the trophy case, and then
you get Alien versus Pright or one Alien vers preador two.
But no one's really remembering those movies anymore. So if
they throw an alien in this movie or in an
Avy they do an AVP three, another one, like, people
are gonna be like wow, And I think it'll have
a lot of speed and momentum with it. A lot
of people will be excited if this movie is successful.
Speaker 2: So is the big creature that we see like loosely
in this Like, do you think that could be a
evolution of a xenomorph potentially because we don't really see
like a clean shot of it, but it's like, it
looks big. It looks all bigger than this aye. It
looks like both the size of a queen, but it's
obviously a lot more agile than a queen typically.
Speaker 1: Is mm hmm. I I mean, I'm open to that,
but I don't necessarily think they'll go that route. I
think it'll just be something something different. I think this
it feels like this movie is really set on world
building and before where we've just had on Earth, here's
a predator, YadA, YadA. This just feels like, no, we
are diving down the deep end. I was reading an
interview where they're actually looking at the predator language, not
the predator language was not really it didn't have any meeting,
It's just symbols. It didn't have any kind of proper
structure to it. So they actually broke down the predator
language and created an actual language of Yaucha for for
for what they're doing here with the culture and the backstory,
so really really excited for the amount of depth that
they're giving these these beings, which you really haven't gotten
to learn a lot. So what do you?
Speaker 2: So do you do you? I just feel like it'd
be weird if like this movie is set up as
like I gotta take out to this this ultimate enemy,
this unkillable thing, and like that's not a xenomore for them,
there's like a xenomore that just like shows up and
he just like randomly kills a xenomore for they just
duke it out for a bit. Or do you think
it's just like post credit like setting up like a
full on AVP next time around.
Speaker 1: I think the odds of an alien being in this
movie would be limited to the post credit scene for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe even just like an egg, like a pulsing egg, or.
Speaker 1: It could be it could be exactly that, or you
could get some other Easter egg in the background of
Whale and Utani. Maybe he it looks like he's gonna
he's gonna be involved with some of the stuff going
on with way than Newtani. He's gonna be crossing paths
with them. Obviously in this in this movie. So maybe
he goes through a lab and in the lab you
see like a face hugger in the background or something
like that. We know that Tani was playing with the
black Goo and was doing some cloning of of the
zenos and the face huggers, So I think that there's
a high chance that you can see something small. But
that end credits scene, I think you get something along
the lines of maybe, as you know, if there's a
night credit scene, I just I would put my stock
in it. Or I don't know, I think something with
Alien Earth, like they're really going hard on like the
alien the prey or stuff. Right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about the Alien Earth thing because we
do we get it. We didn't get a teaser for that.
We just got like more.
Speaker 1: They're just like multiple teasers out right now, like very small,
small teasers.
Speaker 2: Right okay, yeah, yeah, gotcha, got okay.
Speaker 1: But so one mother cool thing that was noticed with
the trailer here was and I love a good trophy case.
Speaker 2: This is this is a sweet that's a nice looking
trophy case.
Speaker 1: Now if you look at the right, we got a
Tyronosaurus rex skull, which is just sick. I love that
we got to the left, we've got a human skull.
People are saying the skull above the human skull is
a space jockey, the engineer's skull.
Speaker 2: Oh that is Yeah, that fits in terms of the
scale of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the in the very center there to the left,
it looks like people are saying that could be like
a gorilla skull. I don't know if that's accurate or not.
It's hard to tell. But that very middle middle skull,
you see how it's got an interesting like triangle look
to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the kicker with that, and I'm sure you've seen
Independence Day, is that it's one of these aliens from
Independence Day. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: I have not seen Independence Day, but this thing is wild.
This is quite the design on this bad boy.
Speaker 1: These Yeah, these things are the harvesters and basically they
harvest planet.
Speaker 2: That's someone's hand, that's a well he's.
Speaker 1: Holding he's holding the skull. He's holding the skull. But yeah,
this is it with the skin on. Basically, they don't talk,
they're very telepathic, and they got really cool technology. And
the fun fact about this is that these things are
this ip Independence Day. It was a fox property and
I was a Disney property and now I'll boom, all
of a sudden, you see you see one of their
skulls pop up in the trophy case here right right.
Speaker 2: That could happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they would ever do across over
like that. That's that's a whole other can of worms.
But that is very cool, very cool. Some people are
saying maybe it's a War of the World's alien skull,
but I think it's it's the Independent.
Speaker 2: I got to watch that again. It's been a long
time since I've seen War of the worlds.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hm cool. Yeah. I have another little
thing here and this this is this is literally just dropped.
I was just scrolling through and saw, oh my god,
like my Alien versus Predit group that I follow, and
they're these guys like they're die hards. They're just in
the trenches, no man's land, looking for all like the
the details. They're boots in the ground. At the conventions,
they're interviewing people that work on the movies and whatnot,
like they're they're there. And so they shared this rumor.
I was like, oh man, they can probably speak, Oh
they can. They created it. So but they say in
this article to take this rumor with a grain of salt.
It's just a rumor, but it comes from someone who
has a recent track record of being pretty spot on.
So and this has also taken a little bit more
fruition after the fact that the Aliens connections are tied
into the Preditor Badlands trailer. The word on the street
is that there is a Predator in the script for
Feede Alvarez's follow up to Alien Romulus.
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm trying to remember, did we have we
ever got a confirmation that doing another one?
Speaker 1: Let me do?
Speaker 2: Like, I feel like I'm not. I feel like that's
the first time I'm hearing of that that movie did
pretty well relative to like, you know, movies of its
type or other alien movies. But it wasn't you know,
it wasn't like a billion dollar movie.
Speaker 1: Bind you means, I keep seeing a bunch of articles
that he's working on us.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe he said in a tweet that he's writing
a script or something like that, But okay, so I
didn't actually know that. I didn't know he was working
another one.
Speaker 1: Here's one from IG and Alien Romalis two in the works.
The sequel would continue the story of the first movie
with Fede and talks to direct that was from twenty
twenty four, so it seems like they're Yes, they are,
they're working on it. So again that works hand in
hand here with the potential of this the script. Now,
if they're I got word on the street is that
there is a predator. And what I was alluding to
earlier is that if this Badlines movie takes place in
the same time span of Alien Romulus, which I suspect
it does, every Predator movie, its predator has died. That's
just the standard. MO. I think this one's gonna break
that streak. This Predator is gonna live. He's a young predator,
and I think that they're gonna maybe Travis refer to
him as this like the Predator, and I think if
they keep this one alive, then you're probably gonna see
him as if this rumor is true, the Predator in
Faye Alvarez, this follow up.
Speaker 2: He'll have the full on luscious locks, he'll have his
forehead fully grown in, and he'll be ready to tussle
with a with a zeno. Okay, mm hmmm hm, that'd
be cool. It seems like, yeah, these worlds are on
the collision course here mm hmm, just like the Remulus
ship and the Saturn's rings or whatever was going on.
Speaker 1: And that's right. They got the quote here too. This
is perfect. Okay. The best alien versus predator will be
the one that you don't know is a VP until
the other guy shows up. You think you're watching a
predator movie and then they land in some place and
there are creatures and fucking hell, it's a xeno morph
that would get me. Fuck yeah, you go crazy, or
vice versa. You're in an alien movie and suddenly a
miss two his creature is there and you can hear
that sound, you see the cloak, and you go, is
that a fucking predator? And it turns out it is.
That'd be the way to do it, don't you think
Once you put it in the title, it's like spoiler
alert and.
Speaker 2: So yeah, true, But I aren't they kind of spoiling
it by like kind of talking about all this stuff
or I mean, I guess this one thing was a rumor,
a grain of salt rumor, but mm hmmm. Yeah, but yeah,
once again, the GA probably doesn't know all this stuff,
and so they'll be popping off in their seats, are
more likely uh, in their homes when they watch it
on Disney Plus later on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, absolutely, yeah, that's uh. I think all the
details I have on aliens and printers and all that jazz,
was there anything else you wanted to sneak in there?
Speaker 2: I guess we just got that one question from s Bubs,
so we can bring that in here from patroon. You
can go on Patron and get you know, ask us
questions when everyone for possible AVP three, who would you
rather have direct would be one of these two? Fede Alvarez,
director of Romilis or Dan Trachtenberg, director of Prey and
bad Lands. Also, what would you be your thoughts on
them co directing it, which is something they've mentioned wanting
to do. I mean, if they've mentioned wanting to do it,
and I would want them to do it because I
feel like that would be their finest work. If both
of them want that, then like, yeah, give them them,
give them the keys. Like Pray was a great movie,
Ramas was really really great. You know, bad Lands, I'm
sure it'll be another good one as well. And so
I feel like, yeah, and if Feddi's making another alien,
even if that's not the one that has a predator
in it, but he's just making another thing. I think
it'd be really cool if they each directed two movies
and then it like culminates in like a fifth like
an a VP. Whether or not it's actually called AVP
once again, if they want the surprise factor of it.
Who knows, but I think it'd be really cool to
have both of their respective visions in there. If I
had to pick between the two, though, maybe it'd go
with Fede.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just uh, maybe I'm a bigger fan of his
stuff generally speaking, but like Prai is also great, So
I don't know. I feel like i'd take either of them,
like if one the other or both. Either way you're
getting like a great movie, I think right there.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the other one.
Speaker 2: Would be like a producer on it at the very least,
even if they're not like a co director or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it depends what the focus would be, what you'd
want it to be, I guess, because I feel like
fe he did a great job flushing out these human
characters in the dynamic of dealing with the zenos. And
you got Dan, who's we'll see here with badlines. But uh,
and he's also got his like Hunter or Killer of Killers,
like the other Predator Hulu movie series that's coming out
or whatever it is. So he those are his three
Predator projects. So he has someone who's really good at
emphasizing the predators and that kind of story. So I mean,
together they would just be such a dangerous combo. Oh
my goodness. And I think that they like to have
someone who's been working hard and learning how to really
bring to life the one side of things, and then
you have some and else who worked really hard to
bring out this side of the of it, the coin,
and then you can put them together. I think you
just get something really really good. And I never I
you know, go back when Predators came out and it's like,
oh yeah, we're doing the Predator and I thought, oh
my gosh, we're getting like the Predator. I can't believe it,
and thinking, man, that's it. That was that was their
last hurrah twenty eighteen, and there we go, Disney bought
Fox and we're probably not gonna get it. And now
Disney's just going like full steam ahead. They're putting all
the Easter eggs in. We're leading up to maybe getting
Alien versus Predator three, and yeah, like, put put these
two directors together, I would absolutely if I had to
pick one, I'm biased, I'd say Dan because I like
the Predators. I feel like, yeah, there's not much to
really flush out Zeno.
Speaker 2: You want them, it would be biased in favor of
the Predators. You want them to have an advantage.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly I would agree with you almost, even
from like a totally different side of it. Like I'm
kind of like Fete, you know, I love ramin this.
I'm I'm gonna go see whatever is next Day movies.
At the same time, I kind of just want to
see what he'll do next, whether that is another original
thing because he has like great original ideas, or if
it's like what you do with Evil Dead or you know,
something just like his take on another franchise. He just
has such a great vision and like ability to execute.
So at the same time, I'm like, you know, if
he moved away from these things in general and just
move on to something else, I'm just kind of down
for whatever he does. So yeah, I'll agree with your
your tract and Berg theory there.
Speaker 1: Doctor Berg perfect in the chat as well. Just now
tuning in the stream as I just finished watching AVP
for the first time. All this AVP three talk has
recently got me in the mood to watch the Originals
s Pubs mission for you. Now you watch the first AVP,
I'm glad you did watch Alien Versus Alien Versus Predator requiem.
That one is one of my favorites. I think it's
got one of the most badass predators of the entire
guitar retros. Jen Yes, check out the retro we did
all Aliens, Predators and Alien Versus Predator movies.
Speaker 2: Definitely worth an Alien Isolation even goes Alien.
Speaker 1: Isolation All Alien Yeah, Oh, I remember one more thing,
one more thing, one more thing. The there's I don't
have a photo of it. There's the one predator who's
got like antlers on his helmet and the people are
saying that, oh, he's the Klan leader. He's got like
the white dreadlocks on his helmet and whatnot. And I
was looking at it and I's like, wow, this is
actually a Neca action figure that's been around for a bit,
very expensive one. I found one listed at almost five
hundred bucks. But this figure is he seems really, really cool.
He's got like orange skin and he's got alien tails
that pull out of his gauntlets and they're used as
like whips, so he uses them as like weapons. Okay,
which would be apparently this is supposed to be like
it looks very much like him with the armor and
the helmet and everything like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the sorry, where does that character originate from?
Speaker 1: I don't know his original figure of him.
Speaker 2: He must have been in something already.
Speaker 1: The uh here, I gotta I gotta photo the thing
with with Neca toys, Like there's there's a lot of
Predator comics, but here's here's a photo of him. So
you can kind of see like he's got the whips
coming out and then here he is, he's got his
his helmet with the antlers on. There.
Speaker 2: Intense energy on this guy, for sure.
Speaker 1: So here's another example. This is an alpha predator.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're small on my screen, but amusing.
Speaker 1: Oh oh sorry, sorry, let's let's uh, let's go big,
let's go big.
Speaker 2: Okay, alpha predator.
Speaker 1: So this is supposed to be one of the first
and the story goes one of the first predators. So
what's cool about this is his helmet. Now, when they
were first designing the predator look in the original Arnt
Scharznegro movie. That helmet that was actually the look of
what the original alien was supposed to be. Very insectoid, like.
Speaker 2: A little bug yeah, a little more buggy exactly.
Speaker 1: So they scrapped that whole look and then they gave
us the classic predator face and design and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But very blue or is that just the camera's glare.
Speaker 1: He's it's probably the camera glare. He's a bit more white,
like i'l bino ish. Yeah. But the fun fact about this,
and again this is I feel like neck a toy
is just creating backstories. They have a plethora of different figures,
like this clown leader he just saw. And so this
guy in particular with the Alpha, he was one of
the first predators where slaves by these aliens and so
this preador rose up, he killed one of the aliens,
made a helmet whatever out of it.
Speaker 2: And like, I'm sorry, not like xenomorph aliens, but.
Speaker 1: No different aliens. They were enslaved and so then they
took their technology and they killed them and then became
like a superpower race and whatnot, the Hunters. So there's
again so much different lore when it comes to predators
and whatnot. But uh, yeah, cool. So I don't know
where the clown leader came from. It's which for clan
leader or yaucha or is that what?
Speaker 2: Wasn't engage? Stand down?
Speaker 1: Oh? I know the word you're talking about. I think. Okay,
moving on, moving on, We're gonna take our first ad
break and get into some trailers. We'll be right back
and we are back. So which trailer, Dylan, do you
want to start with?
Speaker 2: Oh? Boy, you know, I'll start with the trailer here
for Toxic Toxic Avenger. This is a movie I've been
very much looking forward to because I love the last
movie from this director. Uh this is, you know, a
classic kind of one minute long trailer here, So I
feel like it doesn't have all the all the sauce
to it. It's got Peter Dinklage in there, and is
it Kevin Bacon is the guy in there? I always
mix him up, Yeah, Gary, Him and Gary always look
the same anyway. They Yeah. So I think this looks
really fun. It looks very insane and over the top
and wacky, which is exactly the same traits I loved
about the director's previous work and I forget his name,
it's some sorts of an m but anyway, he made
he made a movie that I really enjoy. So yeah,
I've been looking forward to this. It feels like it
keeps getting delayed or kicked out or maybe it's at
festivals and it's not, and I've heard not good things
about it from like maybe people who have seen it.
But either way, I am. I'm very excited for this one.
I don't even really know why. I love the design
of the kind of transformed version of him and I
don't I think this is just gonna be a weird,
insane movie and I am, I am down for it.
So that's that's probably the top of the pile for me.
Maybe not the most quality trailer of the bunch, but
in terms of like, that's just a movie I've been
most looking forward to, and finally seeing it in motion
is an exciting thing. So I should look up if
that has a release date on it at this juncture.
But yeah, what did you What did you think of
that one? Because I feel like I haven't heard many
other people talking about this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's uh, very weird. I never saw
I never saw anything about this franch franchise, about this
this movie before until I yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: A movie from I don't know, back in the day,
and this is like a remake, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'd never seen anything about the original August okay,
but I remember seeing maybe I think it was one
of the earlier trailers or teasers or something like that,
and some photos very very interesting and gory, and it
just reminds me of like Hubbo with a shotgun, that
Wrecker Rudger Howard movie, where it's just it feels like
it's got a very low budget kind of camera quality
to it, and then it's just got so much excessive,
over the top gore. That's just that's super super crazy.
And I think it's it's gonna be a very fun
role to see all these characters casted in this in
this movie, and I think Peter Dinkler is going to
really do a good job playing as this toxic avenger.
I'm assuming he's like a superhero or is it an antihero?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think a villain, even potentially anti
hero villain. You know, this this this medication, uh not
what he expected from it. I thought it was an
ad plane. At first this trailer I was watching on
YouTube and I got an AD right before it, and
then I thought this was like another ad but then
it was actually just the trailer of the movie, so
you know, the tone of that was was nailed as well.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm, yeah, it looks like it's a lot of fun.
M hm.
Speaker 2: What was your what was your top dog here? Not
to spoiled your ranking, but like, I guess what was
the most exciting trailer for you out of this? There's
a bag of treats here.
Speaker 1: Oh, probably twenty eight years later. Yeah, and I saw
this trailer actually when I was watching Sinners on the
Imax screen. They played this trailer and I yelped that first, like,
but the soldiers are going through the dark tunnel. I
thought I knew it was coming, but then the the
dead height's just like ah, I freaked. But yeah, this
this trailer was awesome. And they're again they're using that
same music like five seven eleven six.
Speaker 2: The music was fantastic.
Speaker 1: It. Yeah, they even though it was the same kind
of like narrated like numbered song from the first trailer,
using it again in this trailer. It felt even more
intense and freaky and just getting to see a little
bit more of the concept. They're on this island, the
tide comes in and out and isolates the island, and
they're going to the mainland, and this just looks like
it's gonna be a freaking good movie and so freaky.
Like when they're just you're it just feels so claustrophobic
when they're out there and you just you look out
and you just see when they're just the way they're running,
the things, like the zombie things are charging at them,
and just.
Speaker 2: Ah, it's unsettling.
Speaker 1: Reef, it is very unsettling, and so I really look
forward to seeing what's happening here. But it's all like
I think the rest of the world is fine, I think,
and I think that this is still just Britain issue.
Speaker 2: If I'm correctly, I think I still have not seen
any of the ogs, so I don't know any lore.
Speaker 1: I think we might be doing. I think we might
be doing a retro.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is the plan, and I'm excited to watch
them finally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, then I won't say anything. I won't say
anything about the rage virus and stuff, because yeah, you'll
I'm excited to do the retro with you guys. I
think there's there's a lot of good quality in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe. I don't know if it was
really surprised or whatnot. But just because I know so
little about this this series that I kind of expected
something to be like a little more character focus, like
smaller scale scary, but this seems like bombastic and huge
and like budget coming out of every corner, So I
don't know. I think it's gonna be a pretty grand adventure,
which I guess makes sense for the third in a series, right,
So yeah, but it's been a long time since the
original ones, of course, so I'm excited for this. I
think it's gonna be a good time and I like
zombie stuff, so I think I'm gonna be in for
a treat with this one.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh one, Okay, Eddington here. This is the next
movie from ari Astor. Of course, did Hereditary into Midsommer
into Bo's Afraid. I kind of want to go into
like an alternate dimension where like after Midsummer, like ari
Astor just decided to do a different direction than the
way he's gone, Like this does not look particularly appetizing
to me. I'm not into this. I mean, this was
a very very much like a teaser thing. I don't
even really know what the movie is gonna be, but
just just walking scrolling on his phone and seeing all
these people having like these different takes politically on stuff
and he's just you know, in his bed in a
dark room scrolling. So like who knows what the actual
full on movie is gonna be like, And I like
Bo's Afraid is enough, but like in terms of is
it like anywhere close to Hereditary and Midsommar, like definitely not.
So I don't know, I'm gonna get there's a chance
for sure, And like Walking was used to his fullest
and Bo is afraid and so to have that pairing
again is great. And then you have like, you know, uh,
Pedro's in here and we got em a stone. I mean,
I don't know how much they're gonna be in the
movie or if they're just like on one Instagram reel situation,
and probably they're in it a little bit more than that.
So I don't know. I'm definitely still gonna see this.
Like it's not like I'm totally out on ari ast movies.
I'm just not really excited for this one in the
way that I even was for Bo's Afraid, Like that
was very strange and confusing, and I was still excited
to go see it, and I did go see it
when it released, and I will do that here. But yeah,
I don't know. Ori Aster's on a bit of a journey,
so we'll see what happens here. Especially like Bo's Afraid
came out, probably had a big budget, didn't do very well,
this seems like it could be a simple, smaller scale
thing with like a lower budget, Like I don't want
it to feel cheap, but I hope whatever his weird
creative vision is, I hope he can. Like he's still
has been given the money from the studio to like
make the movie he wants to make. So I don't know.
I'm feeling on the edge above this one, But do
you have any thoughts on that one?
Speaker 1: I still have not seen boas Afraid, so I don't
have much I can add really on the ari Aster front.
I mean, Midsomar, Hereditary, I've seen those ones, but this
one did not have a lot of it didn't put
a lot of orange juice into my cup. So I'm
still thirsty I'm still thirsty, so.
Speaker 2: Well, what and did any of the other trailers quench
that thirst?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still thirsty, but it was at least
it was a palatable sip from watching I Know What
You Did last summer. Okay, this seems like it'll be
a good time going a little bit of a legacy
kind of sequel here. But I can't even remember how
many they did before. I want to say there was
three in total, but I just mostly remember just the
original one, and yeah, that original one. That's definitely a
classic for sure, and as it was a it's been
so many so it's been memed on so many times,
feel like with Family Guy and with other like Simpsons
and whatnot, other different iterations and comedies, they've memed on
it lots and lots of times. So I feel like, Okay,
we're definitely gonna well it makes sense to kind of
like touch back on this universe because I don't know
if everyone is really familiar with it. I don't know
if everyone is actually really I'm counteracting my point. It's
a lesser, a lesser franchise in comparison to all of
the Horror other icons out there. But I feel like
at its core, there is a cult following, and there
is a a like a cult meme following that would
clue and be like, oh, yeah, I recognize that because
that's been portrayed in different comedies and represented in that light.
If that makes sense, That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I I've never seen any of these movies.
In fact, I didn't even know there's more than one.
So this is something I'm completely uh not knowledgeable on
and I don't know. To me, it seemed like, Okay,
it's a slasher. It's a pretty basic by the number slasher.
Speaker 1: Is there? Like?
Speaker 2: What is there like a secret sauce to this? Like
what makes this special from other slashers? You know, like
some of them are kind of more fourth wall, some
more like parody, uh, someone are like really gory, Like
I don't know what is the what what is the
special sauce with this one? Is there any or is it?
Kind of just like that's just a slasher.
Speaker 1: It really just comes down to, you know, these these
people do something and they try to hide it, and
someone finds out and so they starts taking them down.
That's that's really all the special sauce I mean, you
don't really get a lot from.
Speaker 2: That's not very special. That's just like a little dash
of Mayo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's not like Juice. It's I think that
this I'm hoping this one has a little bit more sauces,
a little bit more than Mayo uh in it. But
I'm hoping it doesn't rely on the crutch that is
just the legacy sequel by bringing back a familiar face
and just trying to replicate what happened before. But yes,
there were three previous ones. I think there was a
show too, but I could be wrong. There was I
know what you did last summer. I still know what
you did last summer, and then I'll I'll always know
what you did last summer. That was the third one.
Speaker 2: Okay. Do you think like the twist of like what
is the thing that they did last summer? Like, is
that a thing that's revealed or is it always just
like a pulp fiction like Golden Box?
Speaker 1: Like you Okay, I don't think it's gonna be the.
Speaker 2: Same thing in this movie that like the other ones.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, yeah, they it's it's not it's not anything new,
but they're just they're all in a car all these
kids are partying whatnot, and then they hit someone on
the road, And.
Speaker 2: Are you spoiling the twist right now? Sorry?
Speaker 1: No, I mean that's that's that's the original, and that's
that's I'm pretty sure it's gonna happen in this one too.
They hit someone, and then.
Speaker 2: You potentially spoil this movie for people who I haven't
seen the originals. Now I know, But is it even
a twist or do they just reveal it early on?
Speaker 1: It's in the very beginning of the movie. Okay, okay, yeah,
there's there is a There are twists, but that's that's
later on. Basically, they just they they they partake in
like accidentally hitting someone with their car, and then it's like, oh,
they try to like pretend like, oh we never it
never happened, never happened. They hide and they forget about it,
and a year later, this person someone or whatever is like,
I know what you did last summer and he's trying
to kill them. So that's basically the the general GISTs,
but there's twists in there.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna be skipping this one. I
don't know, I don't I don't I don't see I
don't see it. It seems a little cash grabby to
bring this back. I'm not gonna lie mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It's got its cult following, but that's that's it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's see what else is there. I mean weapons.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The trailer itself was not particularly juicy, but I mean
that you know it's got This is the director of
Barbarian Rights his next project.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It seems like the tones really good. I like the concept.
The cast is good as well, and I know a
lot of people are very excited for this one, so
I'm definitely. I'm definitely on board. Like Barbarian is such
a fun movie, so I'm excited for this, But I
don't know if the trailer really amplified that excitement at all.
Speaker 1: This this movie scared the shit out of me. This trailer,
just seeing the dialogue with what they're saying. And yeah,
there wasn't any forced nstry. They left willingly. It's just
unless you're seeing something, I'm not what's going on. And
you just see all this footage of just like the
kids running and it was the fact that their arms
were out like they were gliding, which is kind of weird.
It's just part of me felt like this could be
like a UFO related type deal or something like that.
I feel like that fits some something going on there,
but we'll see. Just there's one shot where the camera
was gliding to the right and it's gliding as this boy,
this kid is running down the street in the dark,
and it was a amazing cinematic shot, but just eerie
and freaky. I will say, shut up to one comment
I saw on the YouTube where this person was like, yeah,
look at these kids playing with no phones, no iPads. Great,
that's different, different scenario. But yeah, I'm there day one.
I'm a big Barbarian fan. That was my number one
the year released, and so I'm sold. I'll be there
day one to support this.
Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice. What else from this batch here?
Speaker 1: You know what? We got Heads of State, which I
feels like it's a movie we don't need, but we're
getting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like every there's like a comedy, I guess,
but every joke in here was like add best A
two out of ten would be my ratings. Yeah, you
think I was generous? Okay, I thought, yeah, I thought
I was being a little generous. In fact, so I'm
glad that you confirmed that for me. Uh you know,
you got good cast here, but yeah, this looks not
good at all. I couldn't tell if this is like
A because there's like another there's a I think it's
Chris Rock maybe, uh who there was a movie called
Head of State back in the day, and so I
couldn't tell this is like A. I couldn't find an
info about it being a legacy sequel or not even
a like a remake or something with new actors or something.
I don't know what's going on with that, but anyway,
I there you go. It's a movie that exists. Probably
forget about it.
Speaker 1: It's got a few, uh a few big names to it.
I mean, Iris Alba and John Cena. I can't remember
what the lady's name. I think something Jonas, I want
to say. And you got Jack James something.
Speaker 2: Quaite, the guy who's in everything, Yep, the.
Speaker 1: Guy who's and everything. Yeah, so he's popping off in
there too. But at its core, it just it seems
very beadiocre and I wish I'm trying to think off
the top of my head a movie that Amazon has
done that was like actually blowing out of the water.
But I feel like lately these they just they have
John Cena at their disposal and they're just throwing them
in these silly roles for these movies, and I wish
they would kind of like maybe tap in to do
something a little bit better with him as a character.
I feel like he's got the potential to do something
and to deliver, but just he's just playing. Maybe it's
supposed to make like a mockery of the United States,
of course, with everything that's going on and so that
he's playing like a silly, goofy president. Right, So but
I digress. At first, I legit thought that I just
saw but was when they said, like, oh, Prime Minister
is like is this like an America Canada team up
kind of like scenario, Like, no, it's just the British
Prime Minister. Yeah, I'm not going to be in a
rush to see this.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not another one. We got this movie called Him,
which you know, Jordan Peele produced, are here. I think
this one looks really interesting. I can't I don't know
what the heck is going on, but like in a
good way. It's kind of like a football a football
player who perhaps has like a split personality or like schizophrenia.
But then like also uh is having hallucinations and things
like this, or it's like all in his head, Like
I don't know, there's definitely this movie's gonna be filled
with twists and turns. I think it looks very visceral. Uh,
it seems like this one seems really interesting. Is it
a hop of the theater to find out? Maybe not,
but I'm definitely I'm curious to see what the uh
the the temperature is on this one and when it
when it comes out and people in the discord when
they're watching it, because this one seems like it has
some some juice to it. Potentially this might be one
that could fill that that couple of years of orange juice.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, it could. It looked like to me like
there's some cult stuff going on, very demonic, Okay, yeah,
things trying to like make him into this kind of celebrity,
this hot shot, big shot kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Big shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of a lot of mysteries. So I
am I am interested, I really really am.
Speaker 2: M does at least one's life of Chuck Life of Chuck,
which I don't get it? Taylor, once again, I don't
get it. People seem to be blowing their casket gasket.
What does this say about this movie? They seem to
think it looks like the best movie ever. I don't
get it.
Speaker 1: Is that what everyone's freaking out on the discord about.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't get it. I don't
see I don't see the hype for this one. I
guess it's based on a Stephen King book, right, Maybe
it's an amazing book, and maybe that's why the hype
is from the trailers, Like, I don't know, this looks
like really like I don't I don't get it. I
don't see anything special about this.
Speaker 1: So a life affirming masterpiece, that's what it says, uh.
Speaker 2: Which that means nothing to me.
Speaker 1: A stunning celebration of the moment moments that make life
worth living. That's also weight.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. What does it mean?
Speaker 1: What about an emotional epic? It's a wonderful life for today.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a wonderful life back in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's it's got
Mark Hamill in it. That's pretty cool. U. Karen Gillan's
in there, ye Loki Loki. Yeah, that's right. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's kids.
Speaker 1: Seems it's gonna be a feel good movie of some sorts.
I'm not rushing to necessarily go see it myself.
Speaker 2: But is there like a twist tut or is it
just like a a guy discovers gravity and teaches the
world about love.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of twist do you want?
You want to be like a horror like he's a
serial killer maybe or a scientist.
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if that's what this movie is about,
just based on the vibes, but I feel like there
needs to be something that's interesting to about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not really a hook from the trailer, at
least for me, but people that have read the book,
they're obviously really really big fans. As you said, there
is a huge just obsession with this. It's gonna be amazing,
So I'm happy for the community that seems to be excited.
I guess the chuckheads the chuckheads. Yeah, that's right. Cool. Well,
in classic fashion, how would you rate these rank? Yes?
Speaker 2: Sorry, Maddy Saggs, thank you for the question, which anyone
can go on to our Patreon sign up there ask
a question that we'll discuss in great details, such as
rank and these trailers. Number one for me, I'm gonna
go from the top to bottom. Here, we're gonna go
top twenty eight years later. Number two are gonna go
toxic Avenger. Number number three we're gonna go with weapons,
and then it's just a pile of slop. I'm not
gonna lie to you. Taylor. Number four, I guess I'll put.
I'll put Eddington, not even for the trailer, but just
for the ari Astor factor. That's a nice ari ast factor.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Number five. Oh sorry, I forgot about him. Him can
go up to number four. Where does that leave? That leaves?
My god? Eddington at five? I know you did last
summer at six, and I guess i'll put. I guess
I'll put what am I at seven? Life of Chuck seven,
maybe Heads of State eight. There's a lot of trailers.
It's hard to do this off the cuff, but I
think that's my that's my ranking there. So you know,
half good half half slop for me this week.
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good. It's pretty good half slop. I
think okay, I'll go in least to most anticipated Eddington
in the last spot. Wow, I know, didn't didn't pull
me in Life of Chuck. Uh, heads of State him,
Toxic Avenger, I know what you did last summer weapons
and then twenty eight years later that's my number one.
Speaker 2: So it's just takes the takes the gold Crown twice
in the school Crown. That's pretty good in a row? Yeah,
pretty good?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Cool? Anything else you want to add to the trailers?
Speaker 2: No, let's let's fly off to a galaxy far far away.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna fly through this murky ad break
and be right back. And we are back. We made
it through the ad field. Uh, so what what do
we got to dive into? Here? There was Star Wars
celebrations this past weekend, lots of cool stuff, including a
new movie. Got some details are gonna break down. Did
you see the little teasers they did for Starfighter Dylan?
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that existed. I'm sorry, I'll go
YouTube that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, don't don't worry about it. It was literally just
the logo saying Star Wars. Then Starfighter appeared and.
Speaker 2: Okay, I did not see that.
Speaker 1: I guess more like a revealed well, very very minor
an unveiling and unveiling. Yesh, So what have you heard
about about this movie?
Speaker 2: I've heard about what's written here in our notes for
the episode as far as I'm going with this, So
I don't know, is there any anything anything? What do
I need to know? What do I and the viewers
need to know about?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Star Wars Starfighter?
Speaker 1: I feel off off the top of my head before
I read what's written out in front of me. I
just think that this is going to be a spiritual
successor of sorts to Star Wars Rogue Squadrons. Yeah, Disney
just wants to get that spaceship Star Wars movie in
to theaters, and this rogue squadron is technically shelve. Now
we get Starfighters. I just think it's funny that they
just want to get that ship movie out there. But okay, yes,
so the details here because they announced Gosling is officially
on board. He came out on stage at Star Wars celebration.
He's in this movie, and so it looks like it's
reportedly going to feature a boy who is fifteen years
of age on a mission with his uncle, who is
supposedly Ryan Gosling. As they're being pursued by a duo
of villains. Now Gosling and the fifteen year old his
nephew are rumored to be Jedi discuss.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you know to flip it right back
on you here, So this is Sean. I was fraid
of Levi or Levy, but that's the director of this one, right, hmm. Correct,
and remind me his previ My god, my computer's bugging
bullet Train?
Speaker 1: I know, Wait, did he do Bulletrain? He did Free Guy, Deadpool, he.
Speaker 2: Did Dead Pull, Wolverine, Free Guy, Adam Project, and Night
at the Museum apparently, Wow, the music panther.
Speaker 1: Like David leeched it bullet Rain.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, I always mix those two up. I
feel like they have very similar careers to me, because
I was thinking that him and Gossling of work together before,
because I was mixing him up with with the Leechman.
But I guess they haven't worked together before. I guess
fresh a fresh pairing. What do you think about? What
do you think about like this director kind of known
for doing more comedic goofy or things like, what do
you think about pairing him with with a Star Wars movie?
Not just like here, we'll give an episode of like
Mandalorian or something like giving him a full on movie
like that. That feels like a bold choice in my
In my.
Speaker 1: Mind, Oh, I'm worried. Okay, Star Wars isn't a place
where we don't need a lot of excessive comedy. And
I defer to and Or. And Or is a very serious,
serious story, and it's it's tense. It's granted it's not
for young kids, but I don't feel like there's a
place in Star Wars where we need to have a
lot of oversaturated comedy. And again, I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: Show.
Speaker 1: It had some small little comedic beats to it that
were very innocent and it wasn't forced on you really,
but it had great serious moments. It was like a
Gooonyes mixed with stranger things what with Star Wars. It
was really really nice and a pleasant surprise, a refresh.
But I'm not saying that this is going to be
a comedy centric movie, but I'm hoping not, even though
Gosling has been taking on a little bit more of
those comedic roles as of late. When you look at
Sean's previous projects Real Steal, which actually caught me off
Guard that he did that has some very small, innocent,
humorous moments, but dang, with Hugh Jackman and that kid actor,
with the two of them combined, there's a lot of
really heartfelt, serious moments and it's just it's a very
triumphant storyline. I really like it and it's awesome, And
so that tells me, okay that this director can do
a very serious story when he's back into that corner.
Speaker 2: Plus, see, he did direct some episodes of Stranger Things
as well, so pulling the vibe that you just mentioned.
So yeah, I mean, like, you know, it's it's never
good to like just put a guy in a box
when he has a career as big as this guy.
Obviously he's done a lot of different things, but it
was surprising when I when I read that just in
terms of looking at like his most recent project specifically.
So yeah, it seemed like, I don't know, an odd choice,
but obviously Deadpool Wolverine like in the Disney family, and
I guess you know, Disney as a whole seemed to
like working with him, and they feel like right now
they're struggling to get a movie off the ground and
into the air, like a Starfighter, and I feel like
this seems like a great guy to like just get
the job done at this point, put something together quick
and dirty, you know, but like still quality enough for
people to enjoy it. So I guess, like what is
the runway here? The runway would be that we have
Mando movie next year, yes, right, and then this would
be the one after that, or is that another movie
I'm forgetting about.
Speaker 1: In that No, You've You've got to Ride. Mando's coming
out in twenty twenty six, and then this one is
releasing May twenty eight, twenty seven, So they're dropping the
December release and we haven't had that happen since Solo.
Did that?
Speaker 2: Solo was May as well, wasn't it?
Speaker 1: I think it was May? Yeah, it was like spring
early summer release. Yeah, the rest of all been December.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I'm trying to think, like, does Disney or
does Marvel rather not have like a big thing dropping
in May of twenty twenty seven. I feel like they
always have something in like that May Pocket Avengers is
that kicked more down to them?
Speaker 1: REALM Secret Wars? So Google selling me Secret Wars is
May seventh, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's that's like pretty much a month away
then at least, so it's not yeah stepping on toes.
Speaker 1: Yes, twenty one days, So that's interesting. That'll be a
good month.
Speaker 2: It'll be it'll be spicy for sure. Yeah, I don't know.
I this seems like if you're struggling to get a
movie off the ground, like go with a simpler concept
like character focus. Focusing on like a duo of characters
with a duo of villains trying to chase him down
seems solid enough, Like, I don't know how much I
guess if like Gossling is not a Jedi, but the
kid is maybe a Jedi. Like it's not like he
would be training him, I guess, but maybe the kid
will accidentally do some like force powers at some point.
It could be just like a minor little flavor edition
rather than like setting up like, oh, this guy's gonna
be the next ray or something, right, like, maybe it's
just more kind of a fun little background detail or something.
Speaker 1: Well, the the interesting thing here, and I know it
says in the notes, you're like Gossling and the fifteen
year old rumored to be Jedi. I think that some
people are speculating Okay, Gosling is going to be a
Jedi in this movie.
Speaker 2: But oh, okay, I thought it was just a kid
was a Jedi. But okay, they're both Jedis.
Speaker 1: I think again the rumor is, okay, they're both it's
Ryan Gosling or it's the kid. Like again, we need
confirmation on that, but I think the main rumors that
they're both Jedi. The thing though about this is this
movie takes place five to six years after Rise of Skywalker. Now,
during Rise of Skywalker, the only Jedi we know of
is Ray. She's the only one. And obviously Finn is
feeling up some of his Jedi powers now too, he's
access to the Force. So I'm wondering, Okay, at what
point in time does this fifteen year old and where
does Gosling. If Gosling is a Jedi, when did he
start his training? Did Ray just bump into his man
in his like forties, like, oh, you've got the Force,
I'll train you to become a Jedi and he becomes
a Jedi Knight that got quick six years after Rise
of Skywalker. That doesn't seem right to me.
Speaker 2: And then I'll say Gosling is not a Jedi. I
think he's I think he is the uh he's trying
to keep help this kid. He you know, can't help
him with the Force powers and stuff, but he can
kind of be his guide or help him along, be
the kind of father figure, guardian type figure. I feel
like that would be more more of the situation here,
because I feel like it'd be risky, Like it'd be
weird to even just get causing in there for like
a one off movie. But like make him a Jedi,
because if you make him a Jedi and he doesn't
like die in this like presumably they want to. They
want to milk him like one of you know, uh
Luke's uttered uttered, I butchered that joke, you know what
he's going for. I know they would they dodn't want
to use him over and over again, but like you know,
like put him in like an episode. Don't put him
in this random movie that's potentially one off.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think it makes more sense to have
the young kid. You know, if he's this is six
years after Rise of Skywalker, he's fifteen years old. That
means he would have started the training in around like
nine or ten, which fits because I feel like that's
around the time when Anakin was going through his training.
He was around like nine or ten at that.
Speaker 2: But is the infrastructure there to like train Jedis though.
Speaker 1: I think she absolutely has the infrastructure. I mean, because
she had the just the Jedi text she spent like
a long period of time looking in building our lightsaber,
looking into the Force and learning all these things, training under.
Speaker 2: That, she have the infrastructure to like locate potential Jedis.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, I think that she with those
sacred Jedi texts, she probably had the setup and the
details on how to pursue such things. Reach out to
the force is.
Speaker 2: Like wanted where they have like this random looms like
typing in names and stuff like that exactly.
Speaker 1: So for me, I hope that that's the case. And again,
I don't think many people are going to care, but
I'm just a stickler for those kinds of things, and
I think that it would just make sense to have,
you know, a younger Jedi Padawan and have Ray like,
because I think that that movie was supposed to be
Ray because we're getting a Ray movie, and I think
that's kind of like meshed into this a little bit.
But Ray was supposed to come back and she was
going to have I think her own Jedi Council or
Jedi Padawan's whatnot years in the future after a rise
of Skywalker. So again that's we'll just have to see
how they time everything up. But that's releasing, as we
said twenty twenty seven for the fiftieth anniversary revenue hope.
There are several major actors who have turned down roles
in this movie, which is very interesting. Not sure why,
if it's a lack of interest, if it's a fear
or a busy schedule, whatnot. But most of them are
appearing to be would have been the villains Jody kor Comer,
Jesse Plemons, Mikey Madison, and then we have Greta Lee
be A suppose a cantina owner, Sarah Snook, who is
the main character's mother. What do you think about all these.
Speaker 2: I like every single one of these actors. I think
they're all fantastic. Okay, I love Plemons. Do I want
him in Star Wars? Though I feel like he could
fit in Star Wars, I don't think I want it.
I think I want him to do like other things
that I'm more juice than for but like I think
he would be, so I think that's a miss, especially
like he's obviously really good at villainist stuff. I mean
even in Black Mirror it's like Star Trek, you know,
USS Colisters like Star Trek theme, and he's like a
villain in that. So it's like, Okay, that's kind of fitting.
Maybe played a villain in the Star Trek knockoff thing.
He could definitely play a villain in Star Wars, even
if there are different vibes there, So he would be
a good fit. But he turned it down apparently, So
I don't know. That's interesting to me in terms of
like casting, Like if they're looking for that kind of guy, Like,
I don't know, would you get like a could you
get like a Defoe type as well? Like is that
the vibe we're going for here? Like that could be
that could be interesting. And then with Comer and Mikey Madison,
like maybe that's the idea, is that there's like an older,
older man with like a young I mean, Jesse Plemmon
is like pretty We had that debate at some point
on the cast. I think when we were doing like
Civil War, he's like thirty or something, or like the
early thirties or I don't know, I don't have to
get back into that, but maybe that would be the dynamic.
Here's like older, older man, younger woman kind of combo
Mikey Madison, I think hot off an Arara, like, yeah,
don't go do this random star Wars, then go do
some other cooler, more interesting things. I'm glad she turned
it down with that's the case. Jodi Kormor is a
weird more for like a villain. I just maybe maybe
I haven't seen her in a ton of stuff, to
be fair, but to me, she's like does not give
villain energy. So I don't know that would be a
strange choice for me. But you know, maybe it's gray
area maybe not like just full evil Darth City as vibes.
You know, maybe it's just a little bit different. And
then the other two Gretily is I mean, anyone can
be a canteen owner, so like, you know whatever. Sarah
Snook is the main character's mother, so I'm guessing like
the kid's mother. I'm guessing the vibe is that she's
like she's died and more maybe like flashbacks or something
like that. Do you think that would be the energy here?
Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I'd be down to see her. I think I think
it'd be cool. I mean I would. I could almost
see her more in a villain as role. Just I
think the only thing I've seen her in is Succession,
and she's fantastic in that show, and I've been excited
to see her in other things. I think she'd be
a pretty good fit here, So I hope. I don't
know if any one of these worked out, I think
I would maybe pick that one, to be honest, That
or Plendins of course. But yeah, kind honestly, a weird
mix of people for this movie. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is. It is. It is weird Mikey Madison.
That kind of surprised me. But I think that their
goal was to make the one of the main villains
to be a female of sorts, whatever that is. I
don't know. This is This is a conversation. This is
a little bit of a sideline tangent I was having
with my cousin who were talking about Star Wars because
the Darth Maul show was announced. The animated series picks
up right after the Clone Wars by a year, and
it's supposed to have the origin of Darth Talon in there,
and we were talking about, okay, with Darth Talent, she
is a legend Sith that appeared with Darth Create two
generations after Luke Skywalker, when Kaid Skywalker, the grandson of Luke,
was kicking around and they have period and they were
really causing a ruckus as the new Sith order and whatnot.
But so for her being pushed again, she didn't have
any established aforementioned placement in the canon. She's only in legends.
But here we have Darth Talent supposedly her origins in
this show, and I'm wondering what the context is because
i feel like, would they do something like, Okay, Darth
Maul has maybe a foreshadow or a vision or see
something regarding the future, because he seemed to be pretty
adept at seeing things in the future, at least with
what we get to know of him throughout the Clone Wars.
It's a long story short. We were just conversing about
how maybe they allude to Darth Talent and see her
origins in here, and then she becomes a main character
later on, maybe in Star Wars Starfighter or something like that,
and Darth Talent appears as an older, more evil villain
that can take on against the battle against her heroes.
I don't know, but I just thought if they introduced
her in the Dark Times, I feel like she would
get caught. There's already so many inquisitors, and she's not
gonna be able to call herself Darth because Vader would
come in and kick her ass. I don't know. There's
just a lot of convoluted in this, but that was
just a food for thought. So Okay, yeah, love it. Yeah,
I think that's in.
Speaker 2: Unless you've got anything else you want to gotta say, Taylor,
I feel like you don't seem very excited for this.
That's the vibe I'm getting from you here. I'm not
over really, I know.
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a fair read. I'm not
super super stoked on it, to be honest. What really
has my excitement is Amando and Grogu. I have a
lot more hype for that, and I have even more
excitement for a Soca season due just because of the
things Dave Filoni was saying. He's saying, you're going to
be getting an all out Star Wars war. You're gonna
have the New Republic facing off basically against the Imperial Remnant,
with Thrawn leading the charge in a much more larger scale.
So you're gonna get two factions clashing. Admiral l Acbar
is supposed to be coming back into this battle too.
It's supposed to be huge hug and I think that's
just that's gonna be juicy. That's gonna be so much juice,
just everywhere, all over the floor, out of the container,
out of the picture. So I love that. As far
as the movies go, I don't know, Like I said,
Mendo and Grogu way up there, do I want another
movie post Rise of Skywalker? Absolutely, because I think that
that timeline and those characters need a lot more love
and care because I think that they got really hard
shaft afterwards when people were just kind of flacken them
and like Rise of Skywalker and whatnot. So I don't
think they got Delta very fair hand. A lot of
those writers and stuff.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, based on what you just told me
about ah Soca and what I feel like this movie is,
like I feel like they should switch, Like Ahsoka should
get promoted to movie status, dump budget all over that
bad boy let's get a huge war and then like
this seems like a nice like six episode Disney plus Nario.
Other than Gossling, that's like you know that, you know,
you wouldn't put him in like a TV show. I
feel like he's a movie star kind of guy. But
other than that, this feels like more of a I mean,
it feels a little I guess similar to Skeleton Crew
from my very outside perspective, so that's fair. Yeah, but
anyway they're doing they're doing this, so that's what we're getting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's what we're getting. I'm honestly I have
more excitement for maybe Donna the Jedi that takes place
like twenty five thousand years before, and like just there's
just other storylines and I feel like I would I
would prefer like something I want more high republic. I
want something more Sith oriented. But we're getting We're reading
this and I'm sure I'm going to love it. I
just need to see a little bit more context about
what's going on here. And I worry so heavily about
the fact that Sean is gonna make this movie a
bit too overly comedic, and with Ryan Gosling being in
more comedic roles lately. That worries me that he's gonna
be spearheading just the comedic aspect of this and that
just I don't want to see like that cranky, immediately
over the top excessive uncle and then like the young
fifteen year old Jedi padawan trying to keep things together,
and just I don't know, I am getting weird vibes
like Spy Kids where the kids are with their uncle trail,
uncle Machete that was his name or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this that kind of humor definitely does not
mesh well with Star Wars, so hopefully that's not what
they do here. I'm sure it won't be. I'm sure
we're over getting over hyped about that. We're over excited
about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool, cool, Well, I think that does it for
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