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Let's welcome in my guy, Ben 44 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:54,000 Bywater to the show. What's up Ben Ben? 45 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: What's up? Man? How are you? 46 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm living the dream baby, feeling good? Uh and uh yeah, man, 47 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,599 all is well in my life. Feel grateful and happy. 48 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,519 We're in spring right and we're getting more sun, getting 49 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,519 the vitamin D. I know you're an outdoors man. I 50 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:09,479 know you like to get out and about and do 51 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,280 crazy things, whether it's on the motorcycle or just maybe 52 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,680 hiking a mountain or hunting, doing crazy stuff. 53 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: So I'm sure you're grateful right now. 54 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:20,319 Speaker 4: Man, I've got my tarp off. 55 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 5: I'm just catching some rays right now on the work 56 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,000 from home schedule. 57 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: So it couldn't have fit better. 58 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,479 Speaker 3: Love it, man, Well, give us a little update. 59 00:02:28,479 --> 00:02:30,759 Speaker 1: Where you working, what are you doing, Give us a 60 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,520 update on work, and then we'll talk family. 61 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely so doing a few different things. 62 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 5: But I am working for the Miller Group, So Larry H. 63 00:02:39,439 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: Miller Company. 64 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,319 Speaker 5: You guys probably obviously if you're listening to this, you 65 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:46,719 probably know them as the group that had the automotive dealerships. 66 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,080 They divested all of those back in twenty twenty one. Obviously, 67 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,639 they own the Jazz and then sold that to Ryan 68 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,360 Smiths Crew. But now it's a family office. They're doing 69 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,520 a bunch of cool things that I am on the 70 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,520 sports and entertainment side, so we're trying to bring MLB 71 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,840 team to Utah, so that's kind of like all hands 72 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:06,879 on deck there. But they obviously own the Salt Lake Bees. 73 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,639 They just bought into RSL Real Salt Lake and then 74 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,159 the Megaplex theater chain. 75 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,199 Speaker 4: So it's fun. 76 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,039 Speaker 5: I mean, we've got my hands in a bunch of 77 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,960 different pots, and I'm doing FP and A form so 78 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,400 it's financial ops. 79 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,879 Speaker 4: So it's been it's been great. I'm doing that and 80 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,599 then what I also help. 81 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:26,719 Speaker 5: Out with the family office called Watersome Capital, where it's 82 00:03:26,719 --> 00:03:31,240 real estate private credit, so it's all you know, collateralized loans, 83 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,520 short term bridge financing, lending on all different sorts of projects. 84 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:38,840 But that's been awesome as well. So it's picking up 85 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:41,919 right now this time of year. So doing that and 86 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,080 I'm enjoying both of them. 87 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: I'm happy. I'm healthy and training for a marathon. 88 00:03:46,199 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: So that's been a grind a lot of eighteen miles 89 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:53,240 this morning, sous man, I mean, did these marathons. These 90 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,919 marathoners are no joke. I got such respect for these people. 91 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,520 So I'm trying to move my two hundred and twenty 92 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,599 pound body around. 93 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:01,439 Speaker 4: It's not easy, but we are getting it done. 94 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't don't you know that like fast twitch athletes 95 00:04:05,199 --> 00:04:08,840 should not do slow twitch sports like you you're Yeah, 96 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:10,639 I mean, look, I love it that you're doing it. 97 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,000 Your challenge is up. But like I'm I'm dangerous over 98 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:14,879 short distances, not long distances. 99 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 5: I mean, I know I've heard that, and I just 100 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,160 don't know if I'm a quick twitch athlete anymore. Sadly, 101 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,319 so I'm morphed into the the software. So it's been good. 102 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,319 But uh yeah it's just for the mind too, So 103 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,839 it's been great. But yeah, life is life is awesome. 104 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:34,399 Speaker 1: How's the body feeling. I know you had the shoulder injury. 105 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,279 Is that coming back? Do you feel like you're getting 106 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:38,680 back up to the one hundred percent yet with the shoulder. 107 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: It's interesting because my obviously I had nerve damage and 108 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,680 the motor control in my deltoid is fine, like I 109 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,920 can move my arm, but my frontal delt it's still 110 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:54,560 it looks I mean, it's just skin and bone. It's 111 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,879 like it's like a did it. It's real fun. It 112 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,800 looks weird, but I can still golf. I can do everything. 113 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,360 Uh yeah, I mean it hasn't come back full health, 114 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,040 but I can. All my day to day functions are fine. 115 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:09,560 But you know, sadly, like playing football was. It was 116 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,279 over for me when that happened, unfortunately. But I'm feeling 117 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:13,759 I'm feeling good. Thanks for asking. 118 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, well, did did the doctor little did that 119 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,839 nerve will ever regenerate? Can the milin sheet effort's been 120 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,240 stretched out for that one kind of like that muscular 121 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,720 you know, nerve ina innervation does that. 122 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,199 Speaker 4: Yeah. 123 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,399 Speaker 5: So actually I'll tell you a quick story. When I 124 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:35,000 was coming back. So twenty twenty three was my senior year. 125 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,079 I got hurt Game four versus Kansas, and then I 126 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,720 was trying to make it back for twenty twenty four 127 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:44,399 and I thought it was just a routine shoulder tear. 128 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,959 Uh it was my labrum, and so I went out 129 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,879 had doctor elatrosh in LA's the RAMS team doctor. You know. 130 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,800 He patched me up, he put the anchors in, got 131 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,319 my labor and put together. But after a week, like 132 00:05:57,399 --> 00:05:59,360 we went and did some checkup calls and he's like, hey, 133 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:00,879 something's not right with your shoulder. 134 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:03,439 Speaker 4: Like you should go see my buddy at the USC 135 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,680 catch School of Medicine. 136 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:07,519 Speaker 5: So I went over there and it's this guy from Slovenia, 137 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,319 I mean, really smart, really good guy. If nerve damage 138 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:15,120 is like people don't have doctors, don't have nerve damage 139 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,399 doctors just like in their phone, Like it was hard 140 00:06:17,439 --> 00:06:19,560 to get a hold of somebody. But he went in, 141 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,439 sliced me up and pulled out the nerve and then 142 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:24,920 tried like jumping it, you know, like the ready clear, 143 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,240 you know, and the wake that nerve back up. And 144 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,439 I woke up from surgery, and I'll always remember, in 145 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,720 like broken English, she's just like, hey, if this doesn't 146 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:34,279 wake up by. 147 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: July, it probably never will. 148 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:38,439 Speaker 5: And I was like, geez, I mean this was this 149 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,319 was obviously I kept the hush because I was trying 150 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:42,240 to make it back. And we did everything we could. 151 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:44,839 We did everything we could to get it back rock 152 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:46,879 and rolling, and it was all hands on deck. But 153 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:50,240 and it's come back a lot more so, yes, it well, 154 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:54,319 if it did wake up, but the nerve wraps from 155 00:06:54,399 --> 00:06:57,199 your back to your like around your shoulder to the 156 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,360 front kind of where your peck is at right, So 157 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,399 my dell is almost one hundred percent and then my 158 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,959 lateral DELL is about seventy. But my frontal dell isn't 159 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,920 getting that reinnervation like you're saying, but the other two 160 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:15,160 parts of my deltoid have, So I think just with time. 161 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's very you know. 162 00:07:17,399 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 5: I went, I was back and forth in the Mayo 163 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:22,480 Clinic in Minnesota, and they were really happy with my progress. 164 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:26,720 So I think it's probably plateauing, but I'm I'm still 165 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,160 working it. 166 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:28,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. 167 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: I was actually having a conversation about like milind sheath 168 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:34,759 and like nerve health with with one of my employees 169 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:37,480 actually earlier this week, and I was like, well, we 170 00:07:37,519 --> 00:07:39,839 were asking we were talking about the composition of like 171 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:42,519 the milin sheath like from like a if you were 172 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,079 to kind of like dissect it into what its structure is, 173 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,800 and it's like fatty lipids and proteins and stuff. That 174 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,360 I was like, I wonder how much nutrition can nutrition 175 00:07:52,439 --> 00:07:56,399 play a role in, you know, nerve regeneration, Like how 176 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,759 much does it? Because like what else can It's not 177 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:00,600 it it's like you know what I mean, it's like 178 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:01,560 a power chord. 179 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:03,879 Speaker 3: It's not like there's blood supply to it. 180 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: So anyway, I we'll have to get off air as 181 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:09,360 we're talking nerdy here, like if it's fall asleep as 182 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:18,439 we're talking about. 183 00:08:14,759 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: So where's that like? Trying to figure out anterior around 184 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,600 the back right here? 185 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,519 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, man. 186 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: I got to schedule in some more delt work. 187 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: Ronald's well no, I'm like, all right, but you have 188 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,600 to touch what it is because I was like I 189 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:29,480 was a drap damage. 190 00:08:30,959 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 191 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: You got married recently, Ben, How's how's married life? 192 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: Very life is awesome. 193 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 5: My wife is a rock star, so she makes my 194 00:08:39,639 --> 00:08:42,559 life easy and it's been great. Married life is It's 195 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,720 definitely different right from wheeling and dealing to college, but 196 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:46,919 it's so much better. 197 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:48,399 Speaker 4: Like I I've loved it. 198 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: We're living in Salt Lake and so yeah, it's just 199 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,879 it's good having your person. She's, you know, in my corner, 200 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,960 supports me. So I'm blasted. Man, it's been awesome. Awesome man. Well, congratulations, 201 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,919 happy for you. 202 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,399 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you. 203 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: Springball. 204 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,799 Speaker 1: What do you miss about springball? And what don't you 205 00:09:03,799 --> 00:09:04,720 miss about springball? 206 00:09:04,759 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 4: Then? I miss nothing about springball? I miss zero, I 207 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,840 miss I miss springball. 208 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 5: Ending it's a man springball is a grind, and fortunately 209 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,960 for me, I was dealing with so many shoulder bugs 210 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:21,039 in the off season. 211 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,159 Speaker 4: I only had to do like one or two real, 212 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,600 real spring. 213 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,759 Speaker 5: Balls, but I mean that was enough. I still got. 214 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,120 I still wake up in cold sweats thinking about those days. 215 00:09:29,159 --> 00:09:31,080 Just I mean, I shout out. 216 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,159 Speaker 4: To these guys. They work their tails off. It's hard. 217 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,879 It's hard. I mean, if. 218 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,399 Speaker 5: You've never been through a spring ball, it's like fall camp, 219 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,279 but more physical. I mean it's there's no game, so 220 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,240 it's they're trying. I don't know how it is now, 221 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,320 but when I was there, it was full pads three 222 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,440 times a week and you're just you're just hating Yeah, 223 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,279 full contact. 224 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,279 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that was more like Klanni led, 225 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,720 like Ed Lamb led. I don't know if you got 226 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,960 to experience a springball with Jay Hill when he was 227 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,200 associate head coach, but you were, I think you were 228 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:03,399 kind of around, But like where did you feel that 229 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,480 like it was a guy of being pushed from you 230 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:06,919 can do you get a feel for it a vibe 231 00:10:06,919 --> 00:10:09,240 for Yeah, I was. 232 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:09,919 Speaker 4: There for both. 233 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,039 Speaker 5: With Kilannie, what happened was a lot of the older 234 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:17,320 classmen were injured, so I was the one that was 235 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,960 just taking on all the reps and it was real 236 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,799 physical in my opinion, because I was obviously competing and we. 237 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:26,799 Speaker 4: Had some new transfers coming in and everyone was trying 238 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:29,799 to prove themselves. So it came from Kilani. 239 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:31,639 Speaker 5: I would say he was set in the tone and 240 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,960 this was twenty twenty two, right, But then when Jay 241 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,120 came in, I was hurt. But I mean we know 242 00:10:36,159 --> 00:10:38,320 how Jay ran practices. It was yeah, I mean it 243 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,440 was no joke. I mean Jay did a great job too. 244 00:10:40,519 --> 00:10:42,759 So two different cultures but both are awesome. 245 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Uh, look, who are you 246 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,679 excited about this year? What do you know about this 247 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,480 This BAU football team in twenty twenty six, they're coming 248 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:54,360 off of They're coming off of two consecutive double digit 249 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:55,000 win seasons. 250 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: They go eleven and two, twelve and two. 251 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: Pretty pretty awesome, you know, to have that the power 252 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,039 for conference expectations were high, like sixty nine percent of 253 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,600 the returning production you know, comes back, which is awesome. 254 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,200 High expectations. What do you know about this team? 255 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:12,159 Speaker 4: Yeah? 256 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,399 Speaker 5: I mean if you would have asked me, I thought 257 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,360 we were going to be terrible last year. Having you 258 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,600 know Jake Leaving and Bear, and I knew nothing about Bear, 259 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,840 so who knows that my opinion might not be worth much. 260 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,559 But I if you would have told me we'd have won, 261 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:27,639 you know, ten eleven twelve games last year, I would 262 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,799 have I would have laughed. 263 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: But what I know about this. 264 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,639 Speaker 5: Year is from just what I've seen on socials and 265 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,679 kind of like just putting my ear to the ground 266 00:11:34,759 --> 00:11:38,320 is our transfer portal. We crushed it, Like Kadu Luaive 267 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,440 looks great. I know Jake Clifton's you know doing as 268 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,200 far as backers, those guys you like, Studds obviously led 269 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,879 by Isaiah Glasker, who is an All American type player 270 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,440 in my opinion, will be the first one through three 271 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:52,360 rounder next year. 272 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,399 Speaker 4: And then I feel like on offense we got some 273 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:57,639 nice tight ends. I think with LJ. 274 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:00,399 Speaker 5: Will probably run a bunch of twelve personnel, and Bear, 275 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:02,919 I'm sure, with a year of experience under his belt, 276 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,720 will loosen it up and throw it downfield. But that 277 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:08,879 Kyler Jasper kid looks like an athlete. I'm like, yeah, 278 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,519 I would have loved to play with him. 279 00:12:10,879 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 4: He looks good. He looks really good. 280 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:17,799 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I think the personnel wise, I 281 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,159 think we're there, We got all the pieces. I think 282 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,080 our offensive line has not taken a step. I mean 283 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,279 they've obviously matured and done well. They did enough last 284 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,000 year for us to crush it. So I'm excited for them. 285 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,480 And K Pop's going to do a great job. So 286 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,440 I'm a big fan of K pop. I'm I'm sure 287 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,759 a bunch of people listening have reservations. Don't know if 288 00:12:36,759 --> 00:12:39,759 he's going to be j Hill, but K Pop's got 289 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:42,240 all the intensity that Jay had, and he's come from 290 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,480 some a unique coaching tree and he's learned a bunch 291 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,600 from Jay, learned a bunch from Bronco obviously Kilane, but yeah, 292 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,799 he's a he'll do a great job. So that's my 293 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:53,679 that's my take on the twenty twenty six Cougars. 294 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:55,759 Speaker 3: Yeah like that, you know, going off of K Pop. 295 00:12:55,759 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: Obviously I played with him, so I have my my 296 00:12:57,799 --> 00:13:01,799 internal you know, friendship bias. But when I was asked this, 297 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:04,519 I said, look like, if you're looking for like as 298 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,600 close to Jay Hill as you because everyone loves Jay, right, 299 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,039 it's like a JJJJ this Jay, and he deserves a 300 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,639 ton of credit for what the body defense was but 301 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,600 there you know, there's a great supporting cast around him, 302 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,120 coaching staff wise and also personnel wise. But I said, 303 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,000 if you want to get as close to Jay as possible, 304 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:22,399 it's K Pop. I don't know anybody else out there 305 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,480 in the market that is a player's coach, that is, 306 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,480 you know, high intensity on the accountability side of things 307 00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:36,440 as well. But like he coaches you up well with 308 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:40,120 that intensity and accountability, but you still like him after 309 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,519 it all, Like you see where it comes from. And 310 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,320 he's got great schinatic background too. 311 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: Him. 312 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:46,919 Speaker 1: He's been doing this, you know, seventeen eighteen years between 313 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,879 Bronco Kalani J. Gary's there still I was like, I 314 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:52,519 thought that was the best hire. Would you kind of 315 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,840 agree with that assessment of personality. 316 00:13:55,039 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 5: I would yes, when when he he was always my 317 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,759 dark horse in the race when they were looking for 318 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:03,799 you see, I think, uh, K Pop has a great 319 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:06,879 emotional intelligence. Like you said, he's gonna hold people accountable, 320 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,519 but he's you like him, like you like playing for him. 321 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,480 He's a good dude, and I don't think he lets 322 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,120 you know, his friendship get the way of coaching. He'll 323 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,240 hold guys accountable, but it comes from a place of love. 324 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,840 Like you said, so he's a guy that I thought 325 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,799 it was a home run higher and there was no question. 326 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:23,080 I thought, you know, the defense has been crushed in 327 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,360 the past few years. Let's don't don't change it too much, 328 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:28,399 like let's not go external and change the whole whoop 329 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,960 do whoop. So I thought, uh, K Pop was a 330 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:33,399 was a great hire, and I'm excited to see what 331 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,080 he did. He I mean he turned around. People don't 332 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,919 understand he turned around the whole special teams unit. Yeah, 333 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:40,360 we hadn't had like a kickoff return for a touchdown 334 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:43,120 since twenty fourteen, and that's why they was there at 335 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:47,240 BYU exactly. And he came back and obviously Keelan and 336 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:50,559 Parker that I mean, we had amazing special teams going 337 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,200 in these past two years and so so important. 338 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,279 Speaker 4: So yeah, I got no, I got no doubts about 339 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:56,799 K pop. 340 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 6: You have a ten year drought. It was the last 341 00:15:06,519 --> 00:15:11,279 doctor he's he's he loves Yeah, he's a doctor. He's 342 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,240 a doctor of dental science or I can't yeah, something 343 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:14,559 like that. 344 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 345 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 6: Big question for you. You didn't play this year and it 346 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,919 was your red shirt year, so I don't count that. 347 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,000 So in my book, you know, you're undefeated against Utah. 348 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,360 How does it feel to be undefeated against uh those guys? 349 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: Oh? 350 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: I mean being a Salt Laker. There's nothing better. It's 351 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:34,559 it's amazing. It's like I can walk around head held high. 352 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: You know. 353 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,879 Speaker 5: It's they like to they like to chirp up here. 354 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,320 It's it's being and I'm living up here in Salt Lake. 355 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,799 They like to chirp. They like to talk about the 356 00:15:41,799 --> 00:15:44,919 private equity money. But it doesn't erase the fact that 357 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,879 you know what the scoreboard has been the past few years. 358 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:49,639 So man, it's hard to complain when you're two and 359 00:15:49,679 --> 00:15:50,639 over to Utah. 360 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, indeed undefeated. Hay, the Bends are undefeated against Utah. 361 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,679 Because I'm also a defeated I'm to baby. Well, so 362 00:15:59,679 --> 00:16:04,360 we're four together, baby, but what that means they're six 363 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,279 and oh oh yeah, because you. 364 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:10,039 Speaker 7: Made sure of it. Those only games I played, well, 365 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,440 I played trash the game. But I'll take it in 366 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,840 my bad. It's doctor of dental surgery. That's what I shouldn't. 367 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:19,039 I should have known that Adam he and a doctor 368 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:21,320 of dental surgery. Shout out to Adam hene One of 369 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,679 the better, uh kick returners. You gotta get on history, Yes, 370 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:27,759 oh yeah, we gotta get Adam on, no doubt about it. 371 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,679 Ben Always, I always appreciate our time, man. I can't 372 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,879 wait to see what this Billie, you Cougar football team 373 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:35,600 can do. Love that you said, like, I don't. 374 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: Miss anything about springball. 375 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: You wonder It does seem though, like with depth, like 376 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,360 when they have depth, there may not be as much 377 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:50,399 of a need to maybe go as ferociously live, Like 378 00:16:50,519 --> 00:16:53,320 I don't know if they've had any like true live segments. 379 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,559 I think they've gone everything the thud, which just pros 380 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,720 and cons right to me, as long as you're doing 381 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:03,600 per suit to thud and you're in good position coming 382 00:17:03,639 --> 00:17:06,720 inside out. What I didn't like in the in the 383 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,920 ed Lamb era was like I felt like the tag 384 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,119 off like a lot of these guys were never in 385 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,680 position to even make the tackle. They just kind of 386 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,200 run by the I'm like, you missed that tackle, bro. Like, So, 387 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:19,599 I think there has to be accountability if you're if 388 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,559 you're gonna go to thud and you're not gonna go live, 389 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:25,640 then your pursuits better be on point with your angles 390 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,200 and you better be in a position to make the 391 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,079 tackle in a true tag off thud situation. 392 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 5: Does that make sense? No, that makes sense. No, it's 393 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,440 one hundred percent practice. How you play, you gotta be 394 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,160 in a position to actually make a tackle. 395 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 4: The tag off is it can be wishy washy. So 396 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,720 I'm I'm I'm with you there. 397 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: Not only that, the offensive guys when you do the 398 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,000 tag off, they always like, oh, you didn't touch me. 399 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: The house. Everything to the house. Everything's to the house. Like, dude, 400 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,119 I tagged off. 401 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,079 Speaker 6: Like what you're talking about the house? Smile Tommy, I 402 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,119 tagged you. Yes you did, so you didn't touch me. 403 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,799 It's just like, oh, then go and look. It prepares 404 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,160 for the game. It prepares for the game. Guys don't 405 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,680 actually get to the house, you know when they get 406 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,119 to the house. 407 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,519 Speaker 4: But don't even get me started on that. It's yeah. 408 00:18:13,519 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: Now you mentioned Kyler Casper. He's nice, like he's finally healthy. Right, 409 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,440 you have a couple of organ transfer and Roger Sally 410 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:24,400 Apaga number two at the tight ends spot, and then 411 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:28,079 Kyler Casper. Both those guys are going to be heavily involved. 412 00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:30,720 I think in the receiving game. Roger reminds me of 413 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:34,720 like a bigger uh Neil. Honestly from that that slot 414 00:18:35,079 --> 00:18:39,039 flex wye Yeah, just Neil Neil was I mean he 415 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:44,920 was awesome. Yeah yeah, but yeah Rogers. 416 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:47,799 Speaker 3: Really he can separate. That's the thing. 417 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: Like he can separate through speed, end, quickness, and physicality 418 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:51,359 all three. 419 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm excited about him. Yeah, my little brother who's 420 00:18:55,559 --> 00:18:59,559 committed to you. He's hot on Roger. I think he 421 00:18:59,799 --> 00:19:01,480 I mean his high school tape because I knew he 422 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,079 tore up his knee a little bit of that organ. 423 00:19:04,319 --> 00:19:06,680 But he's my little brother, says Rogers. High school tape 424 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,759 is pretty pretty crazy. 425 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,039 Speaker 1: Is there a possibility that Adam is better than Ben here? 426 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,559 Speaker 4: I know it's coming, dude, don't mind. 427 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I'm I'm high. I'm so hyphed for him. 428 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,039 He crushed it this year. If you haven't watched Adams huddle, 429 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,920 go watch it. He had an amazing year. So I'm 430 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,039 really excited for him. I mean, it's hard right being 431 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,799 my little brother. It's like there's definitely a lot right 432 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,240 on his shoulders. You're going to live up to it, 433 00:19:36,279 --> 00:19:38,480 and he has. And he's a big boy. 434 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:39,799 Speaker 4: I mean, he's he reminds me a. 435 00:19:39,759 --> 00:19:42,279 Speaker 5: Little bit of a lander Barton type build. He's six 436 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,480 y four, he's every bit of six four. I give 437 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:47,559 him a little a little bit over six four. Anybody's 438 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:50,240 two twenty now, and he's smooth. And I think with 439 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,720 the strength conditioning program that b what you have, which 440 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:57,240 is top notch s here, I think Adam could be 441 00:19:57,599 --> 00:19:59,640 the Skuy's the lemma for that kid. Just all about 442 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,880 saying healthy, right, it's time, luck and opportunities so he 443 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,759 can do those things. 444 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:04,559 Speaker 4: He's a smart kid. 445 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 5: He's a yes or noteser, get it done, take accountability, 446 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,759 and work his tail off. So I don't see any 447 00:20:09,759 --> 00:20:12,039 reason why he won't be better than me. And he's 448 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,880 learned from my mistakes. You guys know, it took me 449 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,440 a little bit to figure it out, but once it did, 450 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,119 it clicked. So I think I'm really excited for him. 451 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,920 He's going to Chile on his mission, so yeah, he'll 452 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,759 be back. I'm sure he'll be back a little early, 453 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:28,359 probably spring ball of twenty eight around there, and we'll 454 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,519 be rolling. So I'm really happy for him. So yeah, 455 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:32,079 if you're a BAU fan, you got a lot to 456 00:20:32,079 --> 00:20:34,160 look forward to an Adam because he's a sub that's 457 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,079 pretty quick goes to Chile. 458 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: You went to Guatemala? Where did Where did Dad go? 459 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,079 Where did Papa. 460 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 4: Pops went to Dallas, Texas? 461 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 3: Was it Spanish speaking or was it English speaking? 462 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 5: It was a Cambodian speaking believe or not. That's crazy, Yeah, 463 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,000 lots of I think there was a bunch of refugees 464 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,400 that he taught. Wow, so he only had there was 465 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,559 only like six elders that he would rotate companions. So 466 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,799 for the full two years, right, he just rotated between 467 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:03,279 six elders that spoke Cambodi. So it's funny that honestly. 468 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends totally. I had great companions. I got lucky. Yeah. 469 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: Well, I'm happy for Adam. 470 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 4: He's good. 471 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,319 Speaker 1: When does he uh, when does he go into the 472 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:15,599 EMPTC or when does he leave? 473 00:21:16,759 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, he leaves early June and then it's at home 474 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,039 EMPTC a little bit and then he'll be off to Chile. 475 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,079 Speaker 4: I think early July. Son. 476 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,759 Speaker 1: He just got hooked up with Odeon too. He got 477 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:28,240 hooked up with Odeon suit. 478 00:21:28,039 --> 00:21:31,799 Speaker 4: Actually he did. He was he looked, he was suited 479 00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:32,599 and booted. I was. 480 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,279 Speaker 5: I was happy for him. He looked good. So I 481 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:37,000 love Odion. They hooked me up a bunch of buy 482 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,000 or when I was at BUYU. They do a great job. 483 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,799 I always wear their suits, so shout out Odion. I 484 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:42,839 know they're a sponsor of the show. 485 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,079 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed we love Odeon Men's where you can always 486 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,839 utilize the Crudal fifteen coupon code to get fifteen percent off. 487 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,160 Ben Bywater Ladies and gentlemen, always a pleasure, always a 488 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,839 blessing talking ball with you. Thanks for hopping off, for 489 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,519 keeping up with the cougar segment, uh Ben. And anyway 490 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,079 we can suport you. Let us know for our listeners, 491 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,440 anyway they can support you out there and your nation. 492 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,799 Speaker 4: Man, I'm just I'm in the alumni. 493 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 5: Game next week, so just take it easy on me 494 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,559 if I get my ankles broken. 495 00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 4: It's been a minute. I so just have a little 496 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:17,559 patient with me. Are you going to play. 497 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: The first few years? 498 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: You know? And I was, and hey I we won 499 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:20,079 a lot of games, and you know I was d C. 500 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,480 You know, d C, and up we're slowing things down. 501 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:25,839 My biggest my biggest mistake like this is this is 502 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,799 where like my empathy and my love for my my 503 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,759 fellow men kind of gets in the way of my 504 00:22:31,839 --> 00:22:36,480 coaching and my strategy final drive right, I'm DC. And 505 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,680 there were some guys that it was their turn to go, right, 506 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,400 it was their turn to go and I didn't put 507 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,480 out my best, my best seven. I didn't put out 508 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,000 my best at it. I said, okay, I'll let you 509 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:47,839 do it. I guess who got beat? The guys some 510 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,640 of the back end guys that I shouldn't have had 511 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,400 in the game. I should have had certain guys that 512 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,039 I knew were going to go make plays and execute 513 00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:57,599 the scheme. And I tell you what, first play of 514 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,000 that game, it was that same guy that messed up 515 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,400 and I and I just I was I'm too kind 516 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:06,519 in my old age to christ Like in my old age, 517 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:08,799 I've learned too much and I don't have that competitive fire. 518 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:10,680 I don't have that dog in me anymore. And that's 519 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,200 why I lost. That's why I lost the Bishop. Yep, 520 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,160 that's why I lost. 521 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 4: Man. 522 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:17,839 Speaker 3: So so I'm for the time being. 523 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,559 Speaker 4: Oh no, it's a I will say it's a young cast. 524 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: Right now. I was looking at the roster. I'm like, 525 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:26,000 there's some young boy. 526 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Yes, I love it. I love it. 527 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,039 Speaker 5: Heapo still house burners, So geez, goodness playing it. 528 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: The next thing, Yeah. 529 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,559 Speaker 5: I got I gotta go hit the field a little bit. 530 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,240 It's get my back pedals rolling. So ye guys, Yeah, 531 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,519 that's just the goal is no injuries. That's h I 532 00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:45,240 got a nine to five. 533 00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 6: I need a new Mexico though, I need a new 534 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:48,920 Mexico ball all over it. 535 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: That was that was the we were in the box, 536 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,519 I might need to We. 537 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,279 Speaker 6: Saw that play developer like, this is going to be 538 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:57,519 a screen pass, like the one. 539 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 4: Media play that we can actually like develop. 540 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: Out of the fire five hundred that you guys had. 541 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,640 I think I was high stepping with you. 542 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 4: Was so excited. 543 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:08,039 Speaker 3: Was exciting, well, like that's gonna be a screenplay. 544 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 7: And then you came through and I mean I remember 545 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,799 asking you about in the post game and it just man, 546 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,640 the way it just developed. And then you ran and 547 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,279 then I was like, oh man, he's fast, and I thought, 548 00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:17,039 I was like, what's that for. 549 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:21,799 Speaker 5: I had a little get up, I was, I had 550 00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:23,359 a little I had a little a little horse. 551 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: To me, I was a little get up. So I 552 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,680 was that's I mean, that's my greatest play of all time. 553 00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 5: I love I'll go back and watch that when i've 554 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,319 had a bad day, just you know, cansole me a 555 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,920 little bit. That was awesome. So I appreciate you guys 556 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,960 gouts me up there. You might have to whip that. 557 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,480 I might have to whip that one out next Rida. 558 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get juiced. 559 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because you know, pro day just 560 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,440 happeneding you didn't get to showcase your athleticism. I thought 561 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,920 you could have actually done really well in your pro day. 562 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:51,519 I was actually looking at NFL draft scout. They had 563 00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:55,839 projected from like your film that you were between a 564 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,240 four five three and a four six two is where they. 565 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: Projected you on the forty black A four to five 566 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,359 on the pick six. I think, I think that's spot on. 567 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 5: I really think depending on the training and how well 568 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,039 it went my health, I think I could have run 569 00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:11,240 anywhere from the four five to low four to six. 570 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, yes, indeed, I guess we'll never know. 571 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: It's all right. 572 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:19,799 Speaker 1: Hey, maybe once that that that that reinnervation occurs, right, 573 00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:21,720 and then we can get it all dialed in, we 574 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,240 can get all the new all here. You can just 575 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,319 come back for the proday. Killani, let me do my 576 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,680 pro da. I still got this. You know you may 577 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,359 make because how old are you right now? How old 578 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:29,960 are you? Twenty five? 579 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: Twenty six? 580 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,559 Speaker 1: I just turned twenty seven, all right, come back an 581 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:34,880 you're twenty eight. 582 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,559 Speaker 3: Hey, well I'm just coming back just for I think 583 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:40,319 actually now they right, yeah. 584 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Just to say, hey, I ran a four five four 585 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,720 six low for you know what I mean? It would 586 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,880 be it'd be fantastic. All right, Ben, We'll let you go, man. 587 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Much love to you and your family. Thanks for hopping 588 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,359 on brother. 589 00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:53,759 Speaker 4: Much love you guys. Appreciate you for having me on. 590 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,160 And we'll see you soon. All right. 591 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: I talk to you soon man. 592 00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: That segment was brought to you by odeon Men's where 593 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,559 odeon minsword dot com