Speaker 1: I made a decision, Sunny Sun yet on ahead vision.
Speaker 2: Nice Hello everybody, and welcome to for crying out loud.
You may have noticed, as you do once in a
great while, that Lynette is not here on the mic.
I'm on the wheelness Steale. Lynette's on the mic. I'm
on the wheels of steel. If we were run DMC,
which one would I be?
Speaker 1: You? Well, sadly, you'd be Jmaster Jay, who's no longer
with us, right shot to death in his studio.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, well that just made me sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you took us in a sad place to start
the show in his studio. Yes, he was killed in
his studio. You have Darryl McDaniel DMC, and you've got
Reverend Run. Both are wandering the mortal coil. I've interviewed Ron,
but really yeah for hip hop justice.
Speaker 2: In case you're wondering, in case you're brand new to life,
this is.
Speaker 1: Smoking at the super Bowl and her voice got a
little messed.
Speaker 2: Up, So okay, I don't know if this is private
or not, And she'll tell you all about it when
she comes back. But I was literally driving over here,
phone rings in the car. It's Lynnette. I was on
the phone with John because we're super codependent. So I
had to call him about something on Facebook that was
making me mad. When I left the house and I
was talking to him all riled up, and then I
was like, I got to go. Lynette's calling me, which
is odd because normally she would text me and say hey,
I'm running five minutes late, or here's my eta or whatever,
but it wouldn't involve a phone call. So immediately I
got panic because I'm like, uh, oh, Lynette's calling me.
And then she was like, Hi, Well, she fell at
her Super Bowl party and she'll tell you the story,
and she hit her head and she's okay, but she
thinks she might have like a concussion, mildly concussed. Well,
she has a big bump on her head and she
was putting. But when she went to go get up
and get ready and like, you know, come in, she
started feeling nauseous and kind of dizzy. So I was like, bitch,
pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get in here.
And she was like, oh, really, do you think okay,
I'll try. No, that's not what happened. I was like, okay,
let me be the bigger person. Here go, you rest
and I'll figure it out. And here we are.
Speaker 1: Do you think we should call her an interrogat her
and see if she sticks to her story or see
if a whole different story emerges. I think we should
see if there's.
Speaker 3: A talk restory behind this week that we can shake out.
Speaker 2: I should call her, put her on speaker, and just
be like, you know, what do you have to say
for yourself. I'm not going to do that because I
have a feeling she's sleeping right now, which I guess
you're not.
Speaker 3: That's counterintuitive if you've got a concussion.
Speaker 2: She told me like four times. She was like, I
wasn't that drunk. I only have like eight beers. I
really don't think that's what it caused it. And I
was like, Lynette, you're an alcoholic and you need help
and that's why you're now you're missing time from work
due to your alcohol problem. That's that's a joke, people.
It's okay, that's gonna what she don't she knows she's fine.
Some rippon. Okay. Uh, the elephant in the room today
is Monday.
Speaker 3: You're saying I'm fat.
Speaker 2: I'm saying you have a dad bod.
Speaker 3: Okay, oow oh, hurtful shots fired.
Speaker 2: You know what, have we ever like really discussed that
whole dad bod gate.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I just want to say
I was one hundred and sixty two at my physical
and five eleven one sixty two.
Speaker 3: I'm not fed.
Speaker 2: But when I said that, when I was saying dad bod,
I'm just going to reiterate this because everybody was on
my side about this. The whole thing about dad bod
was that women love a dad bod. And it doesn't
mean like Bert kreishert hot belly, like make fun of
your body. It means you're not like ripped in the
gym every day, like only focus on your body. It
means you're like I.
Speaker 1: Felt sabotaged because if we go way back when we
first met, I was going to the gym like four
or five days a week and I hated.
Speaker 3: That, and you were like, no, that's not good. You're two.
I was like one hundred and fifty something.
Speaker 2: When you wouldn't eat carbs, I.
Speaker 3: Was, you know, I was. I was a vain single guy,
for God's sake, like every I was. You know, you
were too thin though I was, you know, I was.
Speaker 1: Trying to stay in shape for the ladies back in
the in the nineties.
Speaker 2: And then I got you, like you started to get
a little bit happier and you were like getting laid regularly,
and then you started eating rice. If you don't think
there's a connection.
Speaker 1: This is hurtful. So then cut to twenty years later. Hey,
look you've got a dad bod. Wow, no hitting me
on both sides. Hey you're too in shape. Oh, now
you got it. Now you got a dad bud. That
means say, hey, SpongeBob, you've.
Speaker 2: Never been in your life. But that's how you took it.
You basically were like, are you saying, I'm Patrick from SpongeBob.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's said, we're a little SpongeBob overfocused because our
child is in a SpongeBob musical.
Speaker 2: Yes he is. Okay, hold on, excuse me. Okay, So
yesterday was the super Bowl. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it because mostly this morning. The reason
that you're calling me from the car initially was the
world is up in arms one side or the other
on the bad bunny time, which is amusing and telling
people who are pearl clutching over the bad Bunny halftime.
I mean obviously from distant uh you know social media,
you see the mag is going nuts. And but the
thing that's sort of caught us is some of our
friends in associates have been doing a little sub parl
clutching going, oh my god, you're going to lose us
the election, bad Bunny, which is just we think ridiculous.
Speaker 2: We know it's ridiculous. So the problem is that in
our in our minds, the problem is, I mean, should
we should we just widen the lens and say the
major problem that we're having right now is yes, we're polarized,
but the problem is that people are people are very
angry with the Trump administration right now. Overall for when
they're pigs.
Speaker 3: We don't even need to go over but all the out.
Speaker 2: Big one being the economy being that when you go
to the grocery store, I spend one hundred and thirty
three dollars at Trader Joe's. Here you not even buying
that much. I was like before this, before Trump's second term,
and the economy sank in terms of trying to get groceries.
I don't think I ever ever broke one hundred dollars
at Trader Joe's.
Speaker 3: No, I know, I never really I think I have
once but one.
Speaker 2: Hundred and thirty three dollars. I was like, I didn't
even get that much groceries. I just got things we needed, Okay,
So that's one. Obviously, what's going on with Ice is
not popular with anybody besides Diehard Magas, which is not
not even normal Republicans, not even people that still want to.
Speaker 1: It's about a seventy five twenty five against issue right,
which is rare in American politics. There's a real, you know,
a real majority against it. That's kind of bipartisan right,
so our issue.
Speaker 2: So but that leads to the idea that although people
are unhappy with Republicans Republicanism, trump Ism, they're also unhappy
with Democrats right now, which leads to this whole issue,
which is that Democrats are also not being progressive and
not standing up for people enough or loudly enough or
strongly enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, first off, we haven't even said what
we thought about the halftime show.
Speaker 3: I thought it was I thought it was awesome.
Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1: My high school Spanish does not endure enough for me
to have followed it. But I thought the show was awesome.
I thought it was you know, unexpected, and I'm not
a big fan of most halftime shows regardless. I think
they're kind of cheesy. And you know, I thought the
Weekends was derivative, and I thought, you know, most of
them are you know, here are our greatest tits. I
thought this was new and different, and you know, the
having the couple. I thought there were just a lot
of things that were way out of the ordinary that
I thought were fun and unexpected, and I enjoyed it,
and I think, you know, I think a lot of
people who were not viewing it through a political lens
probably did too, But I can't speak for that well.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a halftime show that wasn't trying
to even be political. I don't think do you think that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was left to right political. I mean,
I think it was making a statement. I think it
was you know, trying to you know, I think the
word empower is a little lover reuse, but it was
trying to lift up you know, Hispanic voices. I mean,
there was I again my but there was clearly a
point about rebuilding Puerto Rico in there, which I thought
was you know, that's not inherently political, but in the
current world, that kind of thing gets coded politically instantly.
Speaker 2: So well, I mean the let me push back on
that though, because Trump did give Puerto Rican people a
lot of paper towels.
Speaker 3: I know he threw the bum.
Speaker 2: But I think they he did. I mean, if you
want to say, like, oh, he did nothing and you're
overlooking the paper.
Speaker 1: Towel, there were three bounty rules that were given to
the people of Puerto Rico. I was actually if I was,
I wasn't sitting next to you during the halftime, but
I leaned to the guy next to me, I said,
I just need him to throw some paper towels back from.
Speaker 3: The top of that telephone pole.
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 3: My wish did not come true.
Speaker 2: So I think, well, okay, should we read the post?
Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, I mean again, just jumping ahead to this morning.
Speaker 1: We've both been in you know, we've been kind of
discussing amongst ourselves all of the you know, the articles
and the YouTube videos and I mean everybody and their
brother is weighing in on the Super Bowl halftime because
I guess it's now mandatory. But we sort of got
drawn into a bunch of that, but the only things
that really caught us were people that were ostensibly liberal, going,
oh my god, I don't think it's a good idea.
You're going to lose us the election by having Bad
Bunny your halftime show, which is it just seems it's
the epitome of tepid, you know, democratic. It's like Chuck
Schumer waiting for a focused group report to come in
to decide whether he likes deportation of legal immigrants to
El Salvador or not. It's like that's I mean, the
reason they're mad at you is you won't stand up
for anything, and it's just you're going, we should stand
up for less. It's like, be happy about that halftime show,
regardless the election isn't for nine months, God forbid we
I mean, it's going to be political mayhem. They're going
to be fifteen thousand outrages and stories between now and
the election. If you think that bad Bunny singing in
Spanish is going to be a salient issue by November,
I think you need some meds. But just even just
the instinct is troubling enough. It's like, let's be less.
The Republicans have gotten to where they are by being
more extreme and more Hey, you didn't think we'd say this,
but now we are. Hey, let's denationalize people. Let's take
Americans and to port Americans, let's go with it. I mean,
the Republicans have gotten more and more and they've gotten
a lot of power from just going you didn't think
we'd do that, we will. And meanwhile the Democrats, and
the reason that it clearly is the Democrats are polling low,
very low, in parallel with the Republicans because it's they
do less and less. They're like, we can't do that,
we can't say that. We need to be more moderate,
we need to be more centrist, we need to be
more tepid. And that's why you're polling low, is you
won't stand up to what you nominally are supposed to
stand for and believe in. And people and there are
there is a big cohort of people. Sorry for we're
using the word cohort, that's cheesy, but there's a big
cohort of people who on the Democratic side who've internalized
thirty years of that sort of centrist tepidness, going, oh
my god, we have to be smaller. The Republicans are
getting more outrageous. So we have to be even smaller
and more reasonable and stand for less, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: And I feel like to prove that that's crazy. And I
know what some people are going to say to this already.
But Zoran, mom, Donnie ran his campaign standing with trans people,
not caring about what the Republican people who run for office.
Speaker 3: With LGBT, immigrant people of color.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whereas this point of like, oh my god, LGBT,
I mean, uh, you know, trans people are coming to
like be your daughters in sports, and you know they're
coming to steal the Olympics and all that. People are like,
well you don't people that we know that we get
upset about like to say like, oh, I mean you
know you can't. You can't stand with trans people because
you know it's going to make you lose elections. It's like, well, mom,
Donnie did and he won by a huge margin, you know.
And people could say, oh, well that's New York, but
that's but New York is a very mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah you do.
Speaker 1: If you look I mean, I get I can easily
become too much of a political gig, but please do
well if you look at I mean, the thing to
do when people say, oh, but New York is not
a bellweather of the country, which is true.
Speaker 3: New York is a liberal city.
Speaker 1: But you can also sit and look at the electoral
map of New York and you know there are parts
of New York that are very telling for the rest
of the country. The outer boroughs of Brooklyn are conservative,
a lot of the Bronx, not all the Bronx, but
part of the Bronx is conservative. Staten Island is maga.
I mean it's like and Zoron took half of the
precincts on Staten Island, not all, he took almost all
of outer Brooklyn. I mean the places that are traditionally
resistant to liberalism in New York embraced Mamdani. So I mean,
if you want to really get in the weeds, yeah,
he did take the places in New York that you know,
you're Ouasio's and others have not been able to Eric Adams.
Speaker 2: And he did that by saying I stand with the people,
I stand against corporations, I stand against greed, I stand
for housing, I stand for fairness. And if you have
to include I'm not saying you don't have to, but
the fact that he included trans people and made a
point of that you have to is should show the
country that that's what you need to do. And I
think that's what we're saying, is like we need more
of this, and bad Bunny did not do anything disrespectful.
Speaker 3: He said God bless America in the middle of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said God bless other places, God bless Venezuela,
God bless Cuba. You know, so he was being inclusive.
But if we've gotten to a point where just being
inclusive and just saying.
Speaker 3: Oh, we have gotten to that point, yeah.
Speaker 2: Then that's that's really sad and against.
Speaker 3: On the other side of the political aisle is DEI right.
So now, I mean it's again there's a there's a
long rabbit hole to go down. But I mean the plate.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can be angry at Trump alone for
how we've gotten here, but it's sure isn't his fault alone.
I mean the fact that the Democrats started in the
early nineties. I mean, and you know, it's Bill Clinton
and Rama Manuel was his chief of staff who spent
a lot of time in Rama Manuel, you know, who
zigzags between Wall Street jobs and being sort of a
kind of a concern troll for the Democrats. He was
both Obama's chief of staff for a period and Clintons,
and the real damage that he did, that both of
them did was, I mean, they decided that they needed
to dump labor, organized labor and tack the Democratic Party
and the DNC to the right or the right center
to try to fund out fundraise the Republicans. So they
did what was called triangulating. That was a big word
back in nineteen ninety three nineteen ninety four, was they
ran the Democratic Party to the right. They got a
lot of very centrist republic centrist Democrats elected. Well again,
we're very moderate, and we're like, we don't want to
say anything that's too in opposition to what the Republicans want,
because we just want to be the Republicans light. And
we've spent I mean, if you really get into it,
that's pretty much the core of what's known as neoliberalism.
And you know, we went have spent thirty years with
the Republicans proposing I mean, and this isn't cultural stuff,
this is just sheer economic stuff. The Republicans proposed some
really damaging economic policies, particularly NAFTA and deregulating Wall Street
with the Securities and Modernization Act of two thousand. We
gave corporations every dream that they ever wanted, and the
Republicans teed it up, but the moderate Democrats cheered along
with it like seals, and it passed. And then the
wreckage came in. Naf TO gutted the middle class, naf
TO gutted manufacturing, and the Securities and Modernization Act somewhat
enabled the housing Crash of two thousand and eight, and
all of these things ended up empowering somehow the Republicans,
and it was, you know, it was the Republicans who
were the you know, the lead drivers on it. But
the Democrats didn't do a goddamn thing to oppose it
or protect the country. So, you know, we can be
mad at Trump all we want, and we should, but
you have to look at you know, this real tepid,
pro corporate moderate moderate sort of moderate approach by the
Democrats paved the road for him to come in.
Speaker 2: And they answer though, because Okay, a lot of people
feel a lot of beautiful people don't want uh you know,
I mean people have been told by Fox New whatever.
It's a problem with illegal people is that they're just
committing all these murders, okay, and they're trafficking all these drugs,
but we know that that's not really what Trump is about,
because he's also parding hardening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pardoning massive drug traffickers as long as they're
rich and have political favors to offer it.
Speaker 2: And we know that he doesn't give a fuck about
you know, child trafficking, sex trafficking, because he's probably gonna
give Gi just Lean Jizzy, Maxwell Clemency.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he will. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much I mean, even he might
be well, I'm curious. I could see him wanting to
do it just because he doesn't have any prefrontal cortex
left anymore to But I would say that people who
actually can work through things and assessed consequences will be
in his office going, don't do that. The blowback will
be beyond measure. So we find out who wins that battle.
Speaker 2: But well, okay, I have a question for you that
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Speaker 3: Let's get into some dogs. Don't need to be all right,
let's talk dogs. Let's get people a break. Okay, don't
need me ring there.
Speaker 2: So glad that you're in studio live right now, because
I have been telling our audience a bit about the
journey to get another.
Speaker 1: Journey here we on the Bachelor. That'd be a good
I would love a dog adoption reality show.
Speaker 2: I know. Remember we had, Yeah, we had.
Speaker 3: We wanted to do a couple of back when.
Speaker 1: Digital video was new, and we're trying to put together
maybe a series for YouTube or Vimeo or something like
that where we had all sorts of canine specific where
you'd have like dog romances and then you'd have people
meeting dogs and many different derivations.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so we lost Peopo. Turns out I found
out the exact date. This is like a this is
a this is like a small complaint okay that I
have to get out.
Speaker 3: Really, are we on a healing journey here we are?
Speaker 2: This is just this is an annoyance that I had
this morning. Okay, So our kids school, which will not
be named. But our kids' school is very, very obsessed
with attendants.
Speaker 1: We can say they go to Vampire High.
Speaker 2: So they love talking about attendance. They send out they
do like awards. Every They're always like, they send out
a thing about perfect attendance. So every week or so,
or maybe once every week they talk about which grade
got the best attendance, but once a month they send
a thing that they report to you what your kid's
attendance record is. So for the last few months, they've
been saying that both Sadie and Xander have an unexcused absence,
and I'm like, no, they don't, because anytime the kids
are absent, I always I'm very good about emailing and
saying like, okay, So if say Sadie doesn't feel like
going to school, then you just write, You just write
in and you go, hey, Sadie's not feeling great today,
I'll probably be back tomorrow. Boom excused. Well, on November
twenty first, I went and looked because I was like,
why do they have an.
Speaker 3: Unexcused I see how this is coming together?
Speaker 2: Did I write? I wrote to them on that day
and told them that they weren't coming to school. I
know I do it every time. So I went back
in my email and I was like, oh, sent mail
to attendance. Uh November twenty first, and that was the
day that we lost Peopo, and I said, we had
to put our dog to sleep this morning, and the
kids are grieving.
Speaker 1: It was you know, they wanted to be I mean
specifically they wanted to be there for since we were
doing it at home.
Speaker 2: But I didn't explain all that. I just said, we
lost our dog this morning. Our dog died this morning,
and the kids are not coming into school today. It's
a death. I said, it's basically a death in the family.
We've had this dog whatever. And then but I keep
getting these things. So I wrote to them today and
I was like, hey, you know, I just think it's
I just want to say, I think it's weird that
somehow that just you keep sending me a thing that
there's an unexcused absence. When I wrote to you that
morning and I told you that the dog died, I mean,
I don't understand how that doesn't isn't a valid excuse,
but like somebody's saying they have a headache or you know,
is an excused absence I've yet to hear back be
interested unless they wrote me back.
Speaker 1: So all of which is to say, we now know
that peeps left us on November twenty first, yeah, which
was a very sad day. And ever since then, I mean,
have you given the wide context where there was a
sort of there was part of the house that wanted
to take a pause. No, that was a pau s e.
I wasn't trying to be plenty there, but we wanted
to take a beat before getting another dog. And then
there was another fact that was like missing people immediately
and wanting to fill the void, and that was that
sort of.
Speaker 3: Sort of we've sort of worked through.
Speaker 1: That, but so now we're slowly or at least looking
at dogs, which I know you've been keeping people up
to date with.
Speaker 2: So Okay, I told everybody about how so I was
definitely the person who was looking at dogs and then
showing them to you, and you can jump in at
any point. I don't mind being interrupted, so I would
show them to you and you would have very little reaction.
Now that was before you basically told me I'm just
not ready yet. Okay, then we sort of I had
a little meltdown and cried and said, I really really
want a new dog, and you said, okay, I'm not
saying like no, but can we just wait until at
least after the new year? Fair? Because I think this
was like within weeks.
Speaker 3: I think that that was probably November twenty third.
Speaker 2: No, that's not fair, But you were like, can we
wait till the new year? So come the new year,
I was starting to hit you up. Oh. I had
shown you Clyde before the new year, and then after
the new year, I showed you a different dog, and
you said, what about Clyde? Is that dog still available?
And I was like, well, yeah, I think so. And
then I went and looked it up. And then I
saw on social media a thing about Clyde. And then
you said, okay, let's all go and meet Clyde. And
we drove the hacienda hype.
Speaker 3: Clyde lived basically in a Phoenix suburb.
Speaker 2: But it's okay, okay, so I just let's just go back.
We have time. What was your feeling. What was your
feeling about Clyde?
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, I thought Clyde was a beautiful dog,
noble looking. Yeah, I just again, you raised all the
concerns I would have had about Clyde, so I didn't
really have to say much. Clyde was. You know, we
had no idea how damaged Clyde was. Clyde was territorial
when we walked in, growled at us, which you know
I get, but again, you can't be sure that Clyde
won't get territory. I was never worried that Clyde would
be aggressive with our family, but Clyde would be a
dog that might be aggressive to all strangers. And as
you said, I mean our house is sort of like
a Seinfeld set where the kid's friends are like Kramers.
Some of them don't even knock at the door coming in,
They just bust in the front door.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: And Peopo would you know, trot up to them in wave.
Clyde might have taken a leg off like that. That
would have been I mean, there were a lot of
sort of aggression issues that we couldn't be sure of with.
Speaker 3: Clyde, so we had to pass. It was too bad.
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful dog, But you don't know what
Clyde's damage is. Clyde was left, you know, outside and
so and I don't know if you mentioned when we
went to the house and the Phoenix suburbs after driving
nine hours to visit Clyde.
Speaker 3: We had two people there. We had the foster.
Speaker 1: Owner and we had the UH, we had the rescue
and it was the stories diverged a little bit as
we talked about it. I mean, the foster owner seemed
to be trying to diplomatically be cantid, going, you know,
there's some issues with this dog, and there's some things
that I keeping a weather eye on.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things you said was, yeah, I
have to keep my dogs, my personal dogs, separated from
Clyde at all times because Clyde's gone after.
Speaker 3: The Clyde might eat him.
Speaker 1: But the woman who was the rescue owner, who was
very nice, and you understand what her you know, her
incentive is, she was like, no, no, that he was
just trying to say, I love you bite by you know,
biting an ear off means I want your ear with
me always. It's just, you know, she was trying to upsell,
which that's her job. I totally sympathize, but yeah, we
could see that there were some real red flags there
that we couldn't, you know, in good conscience, bring Clyde
into our house.
Speaker 3: When we still have.
Speaker 1: You know, fifteen teenage kids busting through our door on
any weekend day.
Speaker 2: So next, so the next thing that I had thought
was what should be kind of top of the list
is a dog that's super friendly. I want a dog
that's like, isn't wary of strangers, that's like, we'll just
come right up to you. And you know, not looking
for a guard dog, right, just looking for a dog
that's like, oh my god, whoever's new to the house,
pet me, Okay. So I had that in my mind
when I was looking. Now, we love a pit mix.
We love because we didn't even know that Peopo was
a pit mix when we got her, but it turned
out she is half pit. For sure.
Speaker 3: I knew she was a pit mix, but I don't.
Speaker 2: Think we did. We knew she was a terrier mutt.
In fact, in Annie from the rescue was like, we
don't know what she is. She's of any new, any new,
but well whatever. The point is the point is that
when I started looking at dogs that looked like pit mixes,
you said no that, you said, our insurance we can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just I mean, we just shifted house insurance
because our old insurance didn't have an issue, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: Sure sure they did.
Speaker 1: They didn't because I looked it up long ago when
we first got PEPO. Now I have not looked at
our new insurance, but I know that most home house
homeowners insurance policies do have a rider for particular breeds,
including pitt and Rottweiler's and king Corsos and things like that.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So then I started being like, Okay, let
me look at other Let me look at other breeds
or dogs that plausible deniability that are like have have
pit in them but look like a different break.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got a fake ida. Yes, yes, wow, I'm
just a long hair bordered terrier. I'm not a pit.
I did not eat that seven eleven clerk. I'm not
a pit.
Speaker 2: So so okay, So then I didn't want I was
showing you a bunch of dogs, and you were not
into you. You were not really having a reaction. And
then I showed you this one dog, this big book.
Speaker 1: I'm not having a reaction because there's no room for
a reaction because when you show me a dog, you
either bring the phone or your laptop, and you're practically
spooning the laptop.
Speaker 3: Because the dog's on it.
Speaker 1: You mean, you're just you're like, I love this dog.
I want to give a kidney to this dog. I mean,
you're just there's no.
Speaker 3: Room for me.
Speaker 1: I don't have to react because you're already You've never
brought me a dog that you're indifferent to or just
kind of lukewarmon.
Speaker 2: You're always you know what, I'm going to be totally honest.
The dog that we might meet this coming Saturday, I
did not have that reaction to, but I thought you might.
That's the dog that the rescue. I'll get to that
in one second. So then there was another dog that
we both we all the whole family was like, oh shit,
that dog is so cute. That was that dog, Scarecrow,
that gray probably Irish wolfhound dog.
Speaker 3: He was a mutt, but he had definitely had that
kind of.
Speaker 2: He was so cute. So I fill.
Speaker 1: That night you looked like a homeless wizard who would
not love that dog so cute?
Speaker 2: So I filled that an application to that, and I said,
we love this dog, and then they said hey. Then
they wrote me back. I don't know if we ever
had to do a call with them yet, but they
wrote me back and said, Hey, that dog is getting
adopted by its foster, but we think your family would
be a good match with this other dog named Kangaroo.
So I showed you that dog and you were like, huh,
you didn't really have a big reaction. But that dog
looks like is a little bit bigger, a little bit
like yeah, probably a little more pit mixed, but but
kind of identifies as a German shepherd. I think more shepherdy. Anyway,
the point is, in the meantime, I spotted this other
dog named Sissy that we're all everybody is here with us,
knows this story. So I fall in love with Sissy.
She's so cute and she looks like a a Rhodesian
ridgeback face vishla face, She's got hound face, and I
just wanted to eat her up. And she looked very
sweet and very happy. Okay, so I have to go
through a lot of hoops. I got to fill out
an application, then this one.
Speaker 1: Videotape the front yard, videotaped the backyard, DNA the house.
Speaker 3: Yes, I had to get a life scan.
Speaker 2: Then we had to have a call with them, and
you were on the call with me.
Speaker 3: I was on the car.
Speaker 1: We had to sell herself if I was in the
Epstein files. I lied, I said no.
Speaker 2: So we had to do a whole song and dance
and talk about like why we'd make good dog parents,
why we're interested in a you know, you got to
do a whole thing. Okay, so we do all that,
and then they then this woman because I just want
to set it up properly with what happened. Ok So,
this woman says to us, and you were on the
phone with me, so you can you can attest to this.
She says, why don't you guys come by and you
can meet her? And I'm like, great, how soon I
will admit I was the one totally driving this forward,
leaving you no room. I say, okay. She says, okay,
you can come like early this week, but plan to
come once and then come again and possibly take her
for a walk. Remember that she was not all about
She was like, you can come and stay for a
little while, and then you can then the next time
you can take her for a walk. And also maybe
you should consider fostering her because she's never been in
a home before. We don't know how she is in
a house, so you should consider fostering her before you
commit to adopting her. So I was like, okay, so
I take you and we go in and visit her,
and now you take it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So we went to Van Eyes, and not the glamorous
part of Van Eyes that most people associate. It was
kind of a tougher part of Van Eyes. And we
were wandering around and finally a gated storefront opens as
we're walking up and down and finally so we go
in and there's this little rescue behind the gates and
they bring Sissy in and we It's interesting because it
was sort of like an interview with the rescue dog
because they sat us in an office and then they
brought in Sissy. Now, Steph had been so excited for
this meetup that she had had her hair blown out
and gone and gotten some dog treats, so she went
with dog treats in her pocket, so it would seem
like dogs just flocked to her like the pied Piper.
And so they sat us down and Sissy came in.
And Sissy's a sweet dog. I mean, she's sweet. Seemed
a little puppyish, bordering on mannic, but that's normal for
that age. We think she's a year, even though it's
a little troubling that she's had at least two litters
of puppies in a year that's under a under a
year of age. That's but why do you think because
they talked about how she had had she came in
with one of her older puppies.
Speaker 2: Oh right, and then she was pregnant, yes, and.
Speaker 1: She was pregnant, yeah, which is it seems a little
grim But in any case, she was hyper and sweet.
Speaker 3: And you know, she was running.
Speaker 1: She was running in circles with uh some people like
to call the zuomies. I think those are the same
people that call her dogs for babies. But I you
know it, it was a very very sweet dog. I
mean almost I mean I love almost any dog. I
you know, pit bulls, you know, I want a mastiff.
But it you know, she was very, very active and
seemed very scattered and which you know is your sympathetic here,
like this is a scared, lovable, needy dog in the
way she's processing what was probably dramatic and scary. And
her upbringing is you know, she's very docile, and you
know some dogs are like Clyde and they're like, I'm
going to fuck you up if you take one step
towards me, and some are like sissy and they're like,
I just want to please, And I mean that melts
your heart because you know where it's coming from.
Speaker 3: But you know, I.
Speaker 1: Feel like in our particular current dog hunting, you know
set up, I feel like you are very, very very
motivated to get a dog. So I'm sort of I
think that I'm kind of being more of the pragmatist,
going Okay, what could if we rush into this without
looking at all the possibilities.
Speaker 3: I'm being that, I'm being a kill joy.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely being a green chair and I see that,
and that's not my you know, I worked in the
kennel when I was nineteen. I love dogs, but it's
just there's part of me that was like, Okay, this
is a great dog who has never lived in a house,
who was a particular breed that I remember in college,
a friend of mine adopted a dog like that, and
it just tore up the house and was eating everything
get in its body. It passed chicken bones that needed
surgery to get stuff out of its intestine. It it
was so neurotic and had so much damage that it
just this guy was beside himself trying to take care
of it.
Speaker 3: So I just there was part of me.
Speaker 1: And again, maybe I'm projecting that experience on Sissy, but
I'm just like, she's never lived in a house. She's very, very,
very high energy, which is again it's it's it's endearing
high energy. It's not mean high energy.
Speaker 2: But I didn't think she had that high. I didn't
think her energy was that high. We took her for
a walk and she was like totally calm.
Speaker 3: She was, I mean she was like running around or no,
she was. I mean no, she wasn't.
Speaker 1: She wasn't trying to fight to get to cats and dogs,
but I mean she was. She was very I mean no, again,
I can't say a bad word. She was very sweet
and she was but I was just concerned that she's
never lived in a house. She's again, she was just
very It felt like she had a lot of nervous,
sweet nervous energy, and I worried that with the way
we are, we could end up we don't know, And
again I was saying, could we foster her? And now
the part of the story that we haven't gotten to
yet is the woman that we met at the dog
rescue was a different woman than you spoke to, and
you know, we sort of floated, Hey can we foster,
and she's like, no, you should just adopt her straight out.
Forget that fostering shit, and you know.
Speaker 2: And in fact, she had none of the reservations.
Speaker 3: She's like, you want to.
Speaker 1: You want to take her for a walk, you want
to take her, now, get her and coming back.
Speaker 2: You're gonna bring your kids by. And then I was
like yeah, and then what would happen? She's like, yeah,
I don't. I see no reason why you.
Speaker 1: Should leave with her that day, which again part of
me is like, this poor dog needs a home. But again,
if we if she's never lived in a house, and
you know, you.
Speaker 3: Podcast, you teach, we've got a lot.
Speaker 1: We both work from home, and if we've got a
dog that's just chewing up the furniture, nervous, barking, whining,
the stress level is going to go through the roof.
And I feel like I kind of have to play
that kill joy role, going here's the downside, here's what
could happen that could be a problem, and that with
this breed and my experience, I'm like, we can't rule
that that might be our life for the next two
or three years, which you know, I'm great enough.
Speaker 2: And they had told me that there was a lot
of interest in her, and I kind of believe it
because there had been a social media post that I
had responded to that had like three thousand likes, and
they said, yeah, we have a lot of interest in her,
and some of the interest is from people who are
preapproved adopters. So it put it the fear of God
into my head, like, oh, there's competition for this dog.
So then I texted the woman and I was like, hey, listen,
I absolutely love her. She's the sweetest dog, and you know,
but my husband has these concerns. And I said, if
somebody doesn't snatch her up an adopt would you consider
letting us foster her or I didn't even say it
like that. I just said like, hey, I'm sure someone's
going to snatch her up. I know she has a
lot of interest, but if that doesn't happen and you
want us to foster her, we would be interested. And
then they never wrote me back, Oh yeah, hey, we
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they always make it seem like there's a lot of
competition for these dogs, and you know.
Speaker 3: It's like buying a car.
Speaker 2: Would you consider at all, and this is I'm just
throwing this out there too, would you consider going to
like a shelter.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like they have these big shelters they have Palmdale, Lancaster,
but we'd have to sess out the dog ourselves because
it wouldn't have been in a foster.
Speaker 3: No, it's fine.
Speaker 1: I mean the one thing that you know, obviously, I
don't know if you've mentioned, we're going to go to
an adoption event in Culver City next week on Saturday. Yeah,
that's already on the document.
Speaker 2: I'm all for that, I mean, but going to a shelter.
Speaker 3: I know it's different.
Speaker 2: I had been to a shelter, but that's much less
expensive and we would actually we could actually save a
dog from like euthanasia.
Speaker 1: No, I totally get that. What here's I mean? I'm
for going to a shelter. You know, I love dogs.
Speaker 3: I you know, I was.
Speaker 1: Very excited when I got a job working at a kennel.
Turns out that when you're the nineteen year old, it
gets high to work at the kennel. You are always
where the dogs aren't. You're always where the old dog
poop is.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Oh yeah, and I was.
Speaker 1: I was with the dogs about two hours a day,
and I was with dog poop, cleaning it up. If
they were inside, I was cleaning the poop out of
the runs outside and if they're outside, I was cleaning
it up inside.
Speaker 2: When you say a kennel, do you mean like a.
Speaker 3: Boarding kenard shelter.
Speaker 1: No. I worked for a back in I mean that
was let's see, when I was nineteen. Was in the
late nineteen thirties, so back in those days, they didn't have.
Speaker 3: A lot of rescues.
Speaker 1: There were rescues and there were shelters, but it wasn't
as formalized in the public. Access to rescue dogs was
not as you know developed as it is now. Back then,
I worked at a something called Candlewick Kendles, and I
don't think they're there anymore, but I was very It
was a vet that also ran a boarding kennel, and
I was really excited because I was like, oh, I'm
going to get to work with dogs for the summer.
Speaker 3: And I was working with dog poop for the summer.
Speaker 1: And I even got to the point where you have
to take gloves on and off so often. I looked
at the other guys who were working there and they
had long since thrown away the gloves, and you just
learned to grab it with your hands. And at the
end of the day, you just take lava soap for
ten minutes until you take two layers of skin off
and then you go home. But that was that was
the job. But I get to spend two hours a
day with the dogs, and I just I used to
have a good way with kind of aggressive dogs, and yeah,
it was weird, but I could, you know. And in
those days, there weren't that many pits. The scary dogs
of that era were do Dobermans and Dobermans and Rottwiler's,
and I could usually get a Dobman or a Rottweiler
that was kind of territorial in their cage.
Speaker 3: To mellow out.
Speaker 1: They'd let me come in with them and kind of
but there were no I can't remember any pits, not
that they didn't exist, but they weren't nearly as popular
a breed. But anyway, that was I love dogs. I
am all you know, I want to get a dog.
I just you know, I kind of it just it
worked out for us and it was more luck than
anything else. But when we were looking for Penelope, I
said to you, I said, just because we've gotten too
sort of a mode where you're like, look at this one,
look at this one, look at this one. And I
was like, we'll know our dog when, We'll know our
dog when we see it. And you know I do.
The second I saw a Penelope, I was like, that's
our dog. And and you again, you have accused me
of maybe seeing that time in somewhat rose colored glasses,
which I agree, because Penelope was a little bit of
a handful for you to walk, and because you know,
I had clearly put on my dad bod weight because
I was she couldn't pull me over, I mean, and
so I didn't have the stress walking or she could
pull you.
Speaker 3: And we didn't even try the kids with it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that she could pull me. It was that
she was getting out of the harness. She was getting
very prey driven, and she was kind of losing her mind.
When she would see a squirrel, she would her eyes
would almost roll in the back of her head and
she would just start going crazy and niting.
Speaker 3: At the least i'd pick her up too, Yeah, I'd
pick her up, right.
Speaker 2: You'd be like, well, I would have to actually pick
her up and walk her away from sure the cat
or the squirrel, And I couldn't pick her up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean not that I thought you not
being able to pick her up. It was funny.
Speaker 1: I was just, you know, when she was losing her mind.
He could get a little you know, annoying sometimes, but
it was kind of funny. The one I had one
really bad day with Penelope, which I remember and cop to,
was when she we Xander was saying goodbye to a playdate.
And this was in second grade and his mom was
at the front door to pick her son up, and
there had been we have skunks running around our neighborhood,
like it's you know, skunk Central, and Penelope just suddenly
caught a caught some sort of a sight or ascent,
and she blew passed you passed the mom picking up
her son, and she literally Penelope launched herself through a
dense hedge. She just blew through the hedge as if
it wasn't there, got to a squirrel a skunk on
the other side and killed it. And it was the
only animal that Penelope ever got to in our entire life.
With her, she had a braid ride, but she wasn't
very good at it. But and then so I had
to go get her because you were just like, oh
my god. So I had to go get her and
take the skunk out of her mouth, and she had
skunk and blood and she was and she growled and
sneered at me, and for some reason, I was just like, oh,
hell no, And so I picked her up and I
was just like really severe with her. I think that
was the only time I kind of spanked her on
the Buttom, like, you do not, but you know, it's
she's doing what was natural.
Speaker 3: But it just was that to me, was are you sure?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Did I take away?
Speaker 2: It got really upset and I was like I had
to like kind of get you to calm down and back.
You were taking it real personal. Oh.
Speaker 1: I had blood on my mouth because I had I
had to fight with her for the skunk because I
wanted a piece of that too. It's like ten percent
goes to the big guy. But yeah, I was just
that was It was because I hadn't had to deal
with my dog growing up, Saint Bernard or Saint Bernard mix.
Speaker 3: My sister would be but.
Speaker 1: Had no prey drive, and so I had never had
to and it was in the kennel dogs couldn't get
so I'd never really had to deal with my dog
killing anything and being in kill mode, and so it
was just, you know, I think it was just I
got a lot of adrenaline up.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, you don't.
Speaker 1: And it was like an anthropomorphized piepot into a human
that had just killed somebody and we were fighting over
over the crime scene.
Speaker 3: It was grim, but that was That was the one
bad day.
Speaker 1: But otherwise, when she had things and we were walking her,
I was walking, he was kind of funny. I'd just
pick her up, I'd put her on my shoulder and
she'd be fit to be tied that I was taking
her away from her prize.
Speaker 2: My point is that we had to have a trainer. Yeah,
that We had Laura London come a couple times, and
then I had her on the show and people got
real mad and were like, how dare her tell us
what to do with our dog? They didn't, They didn't,
got some blowback for that. I loved her. I thought
she was she had a way with dogs.
Speaker 1: She got so funny because I have a special surprise
guest just waiting outside.
Speaker 2: But the point is, yes, I think that you are
a little bit rose colored glasses with like our dog was.
People was perfect.
Speaker 3: No, Pepa wasn't.
Speaker 2: And we also didn't even we met her one time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we met.
Speaker 2: We you liked her just from her look on Facebook
and then we were like, okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just got a sense about her. I mean I also
read Annie's right up of her and then we met her.
And you know, I think that I do think though
that for her foibles and you know, no dog's perfect,
and we know that going into this she did. You know,
she had very fairly manageable issues and she did mesh
really well. She was a big old couch potato. When
she didn't see a squirrel or a cat or a skunk.
She was very you know, very loving, and I mean
she followed you from room to room. She was codependent
with you, like crazy.
Speaker 2: Part of that though, which we've talked about is that
we thought she was one and we were concerned, like, oh,
that could be a lot of puppy energy a one
year old dog. And Annie said, no, no, no, she's
super mellow. She's like a total couch potato. So we
were like, okay, And then it turns out she was
probably five.
Speaker 3: So yeah, four or five, right, we could tell.
Speaker 1: I mean she had a couple of tattoos by the
time we got her, too, so she'd seen some stuff.
Speaker 2: She's been around, she'd done time. Oh yeah, So I
guess in conclusion, you're saying, we'll know our doll all
your role will.
Speaker 3: Know the dog will know our I'm all for a dog.
Speaker 1: Let's just be deliberate and make sure that we find
the right dog for us.
Speaker 2: We might need to drive to there's Lancaster Shelter and
Palmdale where I've seen a lot of dogs that seem sweet.
That we might have to just go meet some dogs.
Speaker 3: About dogs or you back on math.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we'll see what we we'll see what
we see there.
Speaker 1: Palmdale and Lancaster is the only place we can get
a dog that reads a little suspicious. In my book,
I feel like we're in breaking bad not adopt a dog.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you wanted to say before we
say hello to our friends.
Speaker 1: Well, we did put out an appeal for questions. We've
got a bunch of questions. We should probably feel those
in Friday Friday Show. Yeah, so just letting people know
that we saw them and we will be answering them.
Speaker 2: Yes, but before we wrap, let's say, how do our
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