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Speaker 1: I made a decision, Sunny Sun yet on ahead vision.

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Speaker 2: Nice Hello everybody, and welcome to for crying out loud.

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You may have noticed, as you do once in a

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great while, that Lynette is not here on the mic.

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I'm on the wheelness Steale. Lynette's on the mic. I'm

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on the wheels of steel. If we were run DMC,

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which one would I be?

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Speaker 1: You? Well, sadly, you'd be Jmaster Jay, who's no longer

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with us, right shot to death in his studio.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, well that just made me sad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you took us in a sad place to start

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the show in his studio. Yes, he was killed in

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his studio. You have Darryl McDaniel DMC, and you've got

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Reverend Run. Both are wandering the mortal coil. I've interviewed Ron,

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but really yeah for hip hop justice.

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Speaker 2: In case you're wondering, in case you're brand new to life,

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this is.

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Speaker 1: Smoking at the super Bowl and her voice got a

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little messed.

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Speaker 2: Up, So okay, I don't know if this is private

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or not, And she'll tell you all about it when

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she comes back. But I was literally driving over here,

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phone rings in the car. It's Lynnette. I was on

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the phone with John because we're super codependent. So I

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had to call him about something on Facebook that was

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making me mad. When I left the house and I

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was talking to him all riled up, and then I

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was like, I got to go. Lynette's calling me, which

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is odd because normally she would text me and say hey,

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I'm running five minutes late, or here's my eta or whatever,

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but it wouldn't involve a phone call. So immediately I

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got panic because I'm like, uh, oh, Lynette's calling me.

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And then she was like, Hi, Well, she fell at

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her Super Bowl party and she'll tell you the story,

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and she hit her head and she's okay, but she

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thinks she might have like a concussion, mildly concussed. Well,

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she has a big bump on her head and she

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was putting. But when she went to go get up

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and get ready and like, you know, come in, she

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started feeling nauseous and kind of dizzy. So I was like, bitch,

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pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get in here.

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And she was like, oh, really, do you think okay,

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I'll try. No, that's not what happened. I was like, okay,

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let me be the bigger person. Here go, you rest

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and I'll figure it out. And here we are.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we should call her an interrogat her

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and see if she sticks to her story or see

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if a whole different story emerges. I think we should

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see if there's.

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Speaker 3: A talk restory behind this week that we can shake out.

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Speaker 2: I should call her, put her on speaker, and just

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be like, you know, what do you have to say

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for yourself. I'm not going to do that because I

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have a feeling she's sleeping right now, which I guess

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you're not.

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Speaker 3: That's counterintuitive if you've got a concussion.

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Speaker 2: She told me like four times. She was like, I

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wasn't that drunk. I only have like eight beers. I

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really don't think that's what it caused it. And I

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was like, Lynette, you're an alcoholic and you need help

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and that's why you're now you're missing time from work

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due to your alcohol problem. That's that's a joke, people.

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It's okay, that's gonna what she don't she knows she's fine.

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Some rippon. Okay. Uh, the elephant in the room today

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is Monday.

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Speaker 3: You're saying I'm fat.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying you have a dad bod.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oow oh, hurtful shots fired.

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Speaker 2: You know what, have we ever like really discussed that

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whole dad bod gate.

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I just want to say

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I was one hundred and sixty two at my physical

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and five eleven one sixty two.

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Speaker 3: I'm not fed.

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Speaker 2: But when I said that, when I was saying dad bod,

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I'm just going to reiterate this because everybody was on

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my side about this. The whole thing about dad bod

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was that women love a dad bod. And it doesn't

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mean like Bert kreishert hot belly, like make fun of

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your body. It means you're not like ripped in the

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gym every day, like only focus on your body. It

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means you're like I.

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Speaker 1: Felt sabotaged because if we go way back when we

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first met, I was going to the gym like four

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or five days a week and I hated.

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Speaker 3: That, and you were like, no, that's not good. You're two.

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I was like one hundred and fifty something.

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Speaker 2: When you wouldn't eat carbs, I.

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Speaker 3: Was, you know, I was. I was a vain single guy,

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for God's sake, like every I was. You know, you

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were too thin though I was, you know, I was.

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Speaker 1: Trying to stay in shape for the ladies back in

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the in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: And then I got you, like you started to get

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a little bit happier and you were like getting laid regularly,

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and then you started eating rice. If you don't think

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there's a connection.

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Speaker 1: This is hurtful. So then cut to twenty years later. Hey,

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look you've got a dad bod. Wow, no hitting me

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on both sides. Hey you're too in shape. Oh, now

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you got it. Now you got a dad bud. That

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means say, hey, SpongeBob, you've.

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Speaker 2: Never been in your life. But that's how you took it.

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You basically were like, are you saying, I'm Patrick from SpongeBob.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's said, we're a little SpongeBob overfocused because our

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child is in a SpongeBob musical.

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Speaker 2: Yes he is. Okay, hold on, excuse me. Okay, So

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yesterday was the super Bowl. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it because mostly this morning. The reason

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that you're calling me from the car initially was the

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world is up in arms one side or the other

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on the bad bunny time, which is amusing and telling

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people who are pearl clutching over the bad Bunny halftime.

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I mean obviously from distant uh you know social media,

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you see the mag is going nuts. And but the

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thing that's sort of caught us is some of our

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friends in associates have been doing a little sub parl

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clutching going, oh my god, you're going to lose us

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the election, bad Bunny, which is just we think ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: We know it's ridiculous. So the problem is that in

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our in our minds, the problem is, I mean, should

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we should we just widen the lens and say the

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major problem that we're having right now is yes, we're polarized,

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but the problem is that people are people are very

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angry with the Trump administration right now. Overall for when

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they're pigs.

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Speaker 3: We don't even need to go over but all the out.

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Speaker 2: Big one being the economy being that when you go

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to the grocery store, I spend one hundred and thirty

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three dollars at Trader Joe's. Here you not even buying

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that much. I was like before this, before Trump's second term,

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and the economy sank in terms of trying to get groceries.

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I don't think I ever ever broke one hundred dollars

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at Trader Joe's.

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Speaker 3: No, I know, I never really I think I have

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once but one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and thirty three dollars. I was like, I didn't

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even get that much groceries. I just got things we needed, Okay,

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So that's one. Obviously, what's going on with Ice is

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not popular with anybody besides Diehard Magas, which is not

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not even normal Republicans, not even people that still want to.

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Speaker 1: It's about a seventy five twenty five against issue right,

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which is rare in American politics. There's a real, you know,

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a real majority against it. That's kind of bipartisan right,

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so our issue.

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Speaker 2: So but that leads to the idea that although people

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are unhappy with Republicans Republicanism, trump Ism, they're also unhappy

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with Democrats right now, which leads to this whole issue,

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which is that Democrats are also not being progressive and

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not standing up for people enough or loudly enough or

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strongly enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, first off, we haven't even said what

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we thought about the halftime show.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was I thought it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing.

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Speaker 1: My high school Spanish does not endure enough for me

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to have followed it. But I thought the show was awesome.

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I thought it was you know, unexpected, and I'm not

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a big fan of most halftime shows regardless. I think

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they're kind of cheesy. And you know, I thought the

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them are you know, here are our greatest tits. I

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thought this was new and different, and you know, the

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having the couple. I thought there were just a lot

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of things that were way out of the ordinary that

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I thought were fun and unexpected, and I enjoyed it,

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and I think, you know, I think a lot of

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people who were not viewing it through a political lens

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probably did too, But I can't speak for that well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a halftime show that wasn't trying

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to even be political. I don't think do you think that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was left to right political. I mean,

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I think it was making a statement. I think it

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was you know, trying to you know, I think the

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word empower is a little lover reuse, but it was

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trying to lift up you know, Hispanic voices. I mean,

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there was I again my but there was clearly a

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point about rebuilding Puerto Rico in there, which I thought

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was you know, that's not inherently political, but in the

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current world, that kind of thing gets coded politically instantly.

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Speaker 2: So well, I mean the let me push back on

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that though, because Trump did give Puerto Rican people a

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lot of paper towels.

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Speaker 3: I know he threw the bum.

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Speaker 2: But I think they he did. I mean, if you

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want to say, like, oh, he did nothing and you're

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overlooking the paper.

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Speaker 1: Towel, there were three bounty rules that were given to

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the people of Puerto Rico. I was actually if I was,

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I wasn't sitting next to you during the halftime, but

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I leaned to the guy next to me, I said,

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I just need him to throw some paper towels back from.

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Speaker 3: The top of that telephone pole.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 3: My wish did not come true.

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Speaker 2: So I think, well, okay, should we read the post?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, I mean again, just jumping ahead to this morning.

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Speaker 1: We've both been in you know, we've been kind of

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discussing amongst ourselves all of the you know, the articles

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and the YouTube videos and I mean everybody and their

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brother is weighing in on the Super Bowl halftime because

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I guess it's now mandatory. But we sort of got

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drawn into a bunch of that, but the only things

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that really caught us were people that were ostensibly liberal, going,

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oh my god, I don't think it's a good idea.

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You're going to lose us the election by having Bad

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Bunny your halftime show, which is it just seems it's

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the epitome of tepid, you know, democratic. It's like Chuck

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Schumer waiting for a focused group report to come in

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to decide whether he likes deportation of legal immigrants to

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El Salvador or not. It's like that's I mean, the

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reason they're mad at you is you won't stand up

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for anything, and it's just you're going, we should stand

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up for less. It's like, be happy about that halftime show,

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regardless the election isn't for nine months, God forbid we

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I mean, it's going to be political mayhem. They're going

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to be fifteen thousand outrages and stories between now and

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the election. If you think that bad Bunny singing in

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Spanish is going to be a salient issue by November,

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I think you need some meds. But just even just

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the instinct is troubling enough. It's like, let's be less.

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The Republicans have gotten to where they are by being

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more extreme and more Hey, you didn't think we'd say this,

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but now we are. Hey, let's denationalize people. Let's take

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Americans and to port Americans, let's go with it. I mean,

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the Republicans have gotten more and more and they've gotten

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a lot of power from just going you didn't think

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we'd do that, we will. And meanwhile the Democrats, and

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the reason that it clearly is the Democrats are polling low,

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very low, in parallel with the Republicans because it's they

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do less and less. They're like, we can't do that,

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we can't say that. We need to be more moderate,

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we need to be more centrist, we need to be

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more tepid. And that's why you're polling low, is you

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won't stand up to what you nominally are supposed to

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stand for and believe in. And people and there are

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using the word cohort, that's cheesy, but there's a big

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cohort of people who on the Democratic side who've internalized

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thirty years of that sort of centrist tepidness, going, oh

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my god, we have to be smaller. The Republicans are

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getting more outrageous. So we have to be even smaller

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and more reasonable and stand for less, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like to prove that that's crazy. And I

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know what some people are going to say to this already.

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But Zoran, mom, Donnie ran his campaign standing with trans people,

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not caring about what the Republican people who run for office.

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Speaker 3: With LGBT, immigrant people of color.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whereas this point of like, oh my god, LGBT,

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like be your daughters in sports, and you know they're

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coming to steal the Olympics and all that. People are like,

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well you don't people that we know that we get

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you know it's going to make you lose elections. It's like, well, mom,

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Donnie did and he won by a huge margin, you know.

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that's but New York is a very mix.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you do.

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Speaker 1: If you look I mean, I get I can easily

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become too much of a political gig, but please do

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a bellweather of the country, which is true.

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Speaker 3: New York is a liberal city.

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Speaker 1: But you can also sit and look at the electoral

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map of New York and you know there are parts

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of New York that are very telling for the rest

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of the country. The outer boroughs of Brooklyn are conservative,

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a lot of the Bronx, not all the Bronx, but

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part of the Bronx is conservative. Staten Island is maga.

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precincts on Staten Island, not all, he took almost all

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of outer Brooklyn. I mean the places that are traditionally

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resistant to liberalism in New York embraced Mamdani. So I mean,

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he did take the places in New York that you know,

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you're Ouasio's and others have not been able to Eric Adams.

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Speaker 2: And he did that by saying I stand with the people,

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I stand against corporations, I stand against greed, I stand

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for housing, I stand for fairness. And if you have

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the fact that he included trans people and made a

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point of that you have to is should show the

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country that that's what you need to do. And I

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think that's what we're saying, is like we need more

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of this, and bad Bunny did not do anything disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: He said God bless America in the middle of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said God bless other places, God bless Venezuela,

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God bless Cuba. You know, so he was being inclusive.

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But if we've gotten to a point where just being

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inclusive and just saying.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we have gotten to that point, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then that's that's really sad and against.

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Speaker 3: On the other side of the political aisle is DEI right.

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So now, I mean it's again there's a there's a

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long rabbit hole to go down. But I mean the plate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can be angry at Trump alone for

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how we've gotten here, but it's sure isn't his fault alone.

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I mean the fact that the Democrats started in the

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early nineties. I mean, and you know, it's Bill Clinton

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and Rama Manuel was his chief of staff who spent

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a lot of time in Rama Manuel, you know, who

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zigzags between Wall Street jobs and being sort of a

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kind of a concern troll for the Democrats. He was

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both Obama's chief of staff for a period and Clintons,

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and the real damage that he did, that both of

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them did was, I mean, they decided that they needed

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to dump labor, organized labor and tack the Democratic Party

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and the DNC to the right or the right center

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to try to fund out fundraise the Republicans. So they

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did what was called triangulating. That was a big word

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back in nineteen ninety three nineteen ninety four, was they

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ran the Democratic Party to the right. They got a

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lot of very centrist republic centrist Democrats elected. Well again,

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we're very moderate, and we're like, we don't want to

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say anything that's too in opposition to what the Republicans want,

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because we just want to be the Republicans light. And

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we've spent I mean, if you really get into it,

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that's pretty much the core of what's known as neoliberalism.

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the Republicans proposing I mean, and this isn't cultural stuff,

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this is just sheer economic stuff. The Republicans proposed some

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really damaging economic policies, particularly NAFTA and deregulating Wall Street

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with the Securities and Modernization Act of two thousand. We

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gave corporations every dream that they ever wanted, and the

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Republicans teed it up, but the moderate Democrats cheered along

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with it like seals, and it passed. And then the

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wreckage came in. Naf TO gutted the middle class, naf

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TO gutted manufacturing, and the Securities and Modernization Act somewhat

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enabled the housing Crash of two thousand and eight, and

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all of these things ended up empowering somehow the Republicans,

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and it was, you know, it was the Republicans who

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were the you know, the lead drivers on it. But

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the Democrats didn't do a goddamn thing to oppose it

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or protect the country. So, you know, we can be

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mad at Trump all we want, and we should, but

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you have to look at you know, this real tepid,

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pro corporate moderate moderate sort of moderate approach by the

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Democrats paved the road for him to come in.

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Speaker 2: And they answer though, because Okay, a lot of people

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feel a lot of beautiful people don't want uh you know,

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I mean people have been told by Fox New whatever.

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It's a problem with illegal people is that they're just

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committing all these murders, okay, and they're trafficking all these drugs,

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but we know that that's not really what Trump is about,

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because he's also parding hardening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pardoning massive drug traffickers as long as they're

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rich and have political favors to offer it.

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Speaker 2: And we know that he doesn't give a fuck about

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you know, child trafficking, sex trafficking, because he's probably gonna

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give Gi just Lean Jizzy, Maxwell Clemency.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that he will. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much I mean, even he might

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be well, I'm curious. I could see him wanting to

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do it just because he doesn't have any prefrontal cortex

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left anymore to But I would say that people who

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actually can work through things and assessed consequences will be

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in his office going, don't do that. The blowback will

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be beyond measure. So we find out who wins that battle.

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Speaker 2: But well, okay, I have a question for you that

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I will, even though I'm getting old, I will remember

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Speaker 2: So glad that you're in studio live right now, because

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I have been telling our audience a bit about the

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Speaker 1: Journey here we on the Bachelor. That'd be a good

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I would love a dog adoption reality show.

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Speaker 2: I know. Remember we had, Yeah, we had.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do a couple of back when.

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Speaker 1: Digital video was new, and we're trying to put together

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maybe a series for YouTube or Vimeo or something like

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meeting dogs and many different derivations.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so we lost Peopo. Turns out I found

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out the exact date. This is like a this is

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a this is like a small complaint okay that I

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have to get out.

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Speaker 3: Really, are we on a healing journey here we are?

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Speaker 2: This is just this is an annoyance that I had

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this morning. Okay, So our kids school, which will not

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be named. But our kids' school is very, very obsessed

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with attendants.

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Speaker 1: We can say they go to Vampire High.

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Speaker 2: So they love talking about attendance. They send out they

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do like awards. Every They're always like, they send out

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a thing about perfect attendance. So every week or so,

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or maybe once every week they talk about which grade

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got the best attendance, but once a month they send

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a thing that they report to you what your kid's

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attendance record is. So for the last few months, they've

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and I'm like, no, they don't, because anytime the kids

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saying like, okay, So if say Sadie doesn't feel like

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going to school, then you just write, You just write

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I'll probably be back tomorrow. Boom excused. Well, on November

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twenty first, I went and looked because I was like,

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why do they have an.

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Speaker 3: Unexcused I see how this is coming together?

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Speaker 2: Did I write? I wrote to them on that day

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and told them that they weren't coming to school. I

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know I do it every time. So I went back

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in my email and I was like, oh, sent mail

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to attendance. Uh November twenty first, and that was the

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to put our dog to sleep this morning, and the

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kids are grieving.

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specifically they wanted to be there for since we were

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Speaker 2: But I didn't explain all that. I just said, we

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lost our dog this morning. Our dog died this morning,

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and the kids are not coming into school today. It's

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a death. I said, it's basically a death in the family.

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I was like, hey, you know, I just think it's

470
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,599
I just want to say, I think it's weird that

471
00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:06,160
somehow that just you keep sending me a thing that

472
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,680
there's an unexcused absence. When I wrote to you that

473
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:11,319
morning and I told you that the dog died, I mean,

474
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:15,039
I don't understand how that doesn't isn't a valid excuse,

475
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,599
but like somebody's saying they have a headache or you know,

476
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,680
is an excused absence I've yet to hear back be

477
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,359
interested unless they wrote me back.

478
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,319
Speaker 1: So all of which is to say, we now know

479
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,599
that peeps left us on November twenty first, yeah, which

480
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:38,279
was a very sad day. And ever since then, I mean,

481
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,640
have you given the wide context where there was a

482
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,279
sort of there was part of the house that wanted

483
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:50,680
to take a pause. No, that was a pau s e.

484
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:55,160
I wasn't trying to be plenty there, but we wanted

485
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,519
to take a beat before getting another dog. And then

486
00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:02,720
there was another fact that was like missing people immediately

487
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,200
and wanting to fill the void, and that was that

488
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:06,720
sort of.

489
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:10,039
Speaker 3: Sort of we've sort of worked through.

490
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: That, but so now we're slowly or at least looking

491
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,359
at dogs, which I know you've been keeping people up

492
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:16,880
to date with.

493
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,799
Speaker 2: So Okay, I told everybody about how so I was

494
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:27,279
definitely the person who was looking at dogs and then

495
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:30,720
showing them to you, and you can jump in at

496
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,319
any point. I don't mind being interrupted, so I would

497
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,519
show them to you and you would have very little reaction.

498
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,319
Now that was before you basically told me I'm just

499
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:45,440
not ready yet. Okay, then we sort of I had

500
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,880
a little meltdown and cried and said, I really really

501
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,559
want a new dog, and you said, okay, I'm not

502
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,559
saying like no, but can we just wait until at

503
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,400
least after the new year? Fair? Because I think this

504
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,000
was like within weeks.

505
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: I think that that was probably November twenty third.

506
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: No, that's not fair, But you were like, can we

507
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,799
wait till the new year? So come the new year,

508
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,400
I was starting to hit you up. Oh. I had

509
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,160
shown you Clyde before the new year, and then after

510
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,839
the new year, I showed you a different dog, and

511
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,599
you said, what about Clyde? Is that dog still available?

512
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,720
And I was like, well, yeah, I think so. And

513
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:31,039
then I went and looked it up. And then I

514
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:34,160
saw on social media a thing about Clyde. And then

515
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,240
you said, okay, let's all go and meet Clyde. And

516
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:39,640
we drove the hacienda hype.

517
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: Clyde lived basically in a Phoenix suburb.

518
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: But it's okay, okay, so I just let's just go back.

519
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,960
We have time. What was your feeling. What was your

520
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,480
feeling about Clyde?

521
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:56,039
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, I thought Clyde was a beautiful dog,

522
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:04,160
noble looking. Yeah, I just again, you raised all the

523
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,039
concerns I would have had about Clyde, so I didn't

524
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,559
really have to say much. Clyde was. You know, we

525
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,960
had no idea how damaged Clyde was. Clyde was territorial

526
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:14,960
when we walked in, growled at us, which you know

527
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:19,319
I get, but again, you can't be sure that Clyde

528
00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:22,279
won't get territory. I was never worried that Clyde would

529
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:25,599
be aggressive with our family, but Clyde would be a

530
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640
dog that might be aggressive to all strangers. And as

531
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,359
you said, I mean our house is sort of like

532
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,079
a Seinfeld set where the kid's friends are like Kramers.

533
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:37,519
Some of them don't even knock at the door coming in,

534
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,079
They just bust in the front door.

535
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: It's true.

536
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: And Peopo would you know, trot up to them in wave.

537
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,119
Clyde might have taken a leg off like that. That

538
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,599
would have been I mean, there were a lot of

539
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,079
sort of aggression issues that we couldn't be sure of with.

540
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,359
Speaker 3: Clyde, so we had to pass. It was too bad.

541
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,039
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful dog, But you don't know what

542
00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:01,480
Clyde's damage is. Clyde was left, you know, outside and

543
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:03,960
so and I don't know if you mentioned when we

544
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,839
went to the house and the Phoenix suburbs after driving

545
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,039
nine hours to visit Clyde.

546
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,799
Speaker 3: We had two people there. We had the foster.

547
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: Owner and we had the UH, we had the rescue

548
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:21,759
and it was the stories diverged a little bit as

549
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:25,359
we talked about it. I mean, the foster owner seemed

550
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:28,440
to be trying to diplomatically be cantid, going, you know,

551
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,519
there's some issues with this dog, and there's some things

552
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,200
that I keeping a weather eye on.

553
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:34,559
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things you said was, yeah, I

554
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:38,440
have to keep my dogs, my personal dogs, separated from

555
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,279
Clyde at all times because Clyde's gone after.

556
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,359
Speaker 3: The Clyde might eat him.

557
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: But the woman who was the rescue owner, who was

558
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:49,240
very nice, and you understand what her you know, her

559
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,960
incentive is, she was like, no, no, that he was

560
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,079
just trying to say, I love you bite by you know,

561
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,359
biting an ear off means I want your ear with

562
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,200
me always. It's just, you know, she was trying to upsell,

563
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,480
which that's her job. I totally sympathize, but yeah, we

564
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,440
could see that there were some real red flags there

565
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,359
that we couldn't, you know, in good conscience, bring Clyde

566
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,119
into our house.

567
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,119
Speaker 3: When we still have.

568
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: You know, fifteen teenage kids busting through our door on

569
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,359
any weekend day.

570
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: So next, so the next thing that I had thought

571
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,319
was what should be kind of top of the list

572
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:28,880
is a dog that's super friendly. I want a dog

573
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,759
that's like, isn't wary of strangers, that's like, we'll just

574
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:36,000
come right up to you. And you know, not looking

575
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,039
for a guard dog, right, just looking for a dog

576
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,519
that's like, oh my god, whoever's new to the house,

577
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:43,039
pet me, Okay. So I had that in my mind

578
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,839
when I was looking. Now, we love a pit mix.

579
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,559
We love because we didn't even know that Peopo was

580
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:52,240
a pit mix when we got her, but it turned

581
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:54,319
out she is half pit. For sure.

582
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: I knew she was a pit mix, but I don't.

583
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: Think we did. We knew she was a terrier mutt.

584
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,559
In fact, in Annie from the rescue was like, we

585
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:04,680
don't know what she is. She's of any new, any new,

586
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:09,319
but well whatever. The point is the point is that

587
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,680
when I started looking at dogs that looked like pit mixes,

588
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,960
you said no that, you said, our insurance we can't.

589
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just I mean, we just shifted house insurance

590
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,200
because our old insurance didn't have an issue, but I'm not.

591
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: Sure sure they did.

592
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:29,359
Speaker 1: They didn't because I looked it up long ago when

593
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:32,319
we first got PEPO. Now I have not looked at

594
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:37,680
our new insurance, but I know that most home house

595
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,279
homeowners insurance policies do have a rider for particular breeds,

596
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:48,240
including pitt and Rottweiler's and king Corsos and things like that.

597
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So then I started being like, Okay, let

598
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,599
me look at other Let me look at other breeds

599
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,240
or dogs that plausible deniability that are like have have

600
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400
pit in them but look like a different break.

601
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got a fake ida. Yes, yes, wow, I'm

602
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:09,039
just a long hair bordered terrier. I'm not a pit.

603
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,240
I did not eat that seven eleven clerk. I'm not

604
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:13,599
a pit.

605
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:18,839
Speaker 2: So so okay, So then I didn't want I was

606
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,519
showing you a bunch of dogs, and you were not

607
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,440
into you. You were not really having a reaction. And

608
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,680
then I showed you this one dog, this big book.

609
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm not having a reaction because there's no room for

610
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,400
a reaction because when you show me a dog, you

611
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,920
either bring the phone or your laptop, and you're practically

612
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,599
spooning the laptop.

613
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,279
Speaker 3: Because the dog's on it.

614
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: You mean, you're just you're like, I love this dog.

615
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,039
I want to give a kidney to this dog. I mean,

616
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:43,359
you're just there's no.

617
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: Room for me.

618
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't have to react because you're already You've never

619
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,160
brought me a dog that you're indifferent to or just

620
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:53,519
kind of lukewarmon.

621
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: You're always you know what, I'm going to be totally honest.

622
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,279
The dog that we might meet this coming Saturday, I

623
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:05,920
did not have that reaction to, but I thought you might.

624
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,679
That's the dog that the rescue. I'll get to that

625
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,039
in one second. So then there was another dog that

626
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:16,079
we both we all the whole family was like, oh shit,

627
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,159
that dog is so cute. That was that dog, Scarecrow,

628
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,559
that gray probably Irish wolfhound dog.

629
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 3: He was a mutt, but he had definitely had that

630
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:25,719
kind of.

631
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: He was so cute. So I fill.

632
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,159
Speaker 1: That night you looked like a homeless wizard who would

633
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,360
not love that dog so cute?

634
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,159
Speaker 2: So I filled that an application to that, and I said,

635
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:44,000
we love this dog, and then they said hey. Then

636
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:46,280
they wrote me back. I don't know if we ever

637
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,760
had to do a call with them yet, but they

638
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,599
wrote me back and said, Hey, that dog is getting

639
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,840
adopted by its foster, but we think your family would

640
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,360
be a good match with this other dog named Kangaroo.

641
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,239
So I showed you that dog and you were like, huh,

642
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,360
you didn't really have a big reaction. But that dog

643
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,360
looks like is a little bit bigger, a little bit

644
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:15,159
like yeah, probably a little more pit mixed, but but

645
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,400
kind of identifies as a German shepherd. I think more shepherdy. Anyway,

646
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,599
the point is, in the meantime, I spotted this other

647
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:29,400
dog named Sissy that we're all everybody is here with us,

648
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,880
knows this story. So I fall in love with Sissy.

649
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,679
She's so cute and she looks like a a Rhodesian

650
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,480
ridgeback face vishla face, She's got hound face, and I

651
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,880
just wanted to eat her up. And she looked very

652
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,239
sweet and very happy. Okay, so I have to go

653
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,960
through a lot of hoops. I got to fill out

654
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,119
an application, then this one.

655
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: Videotape the front yard, videotaped the backyard, DNA the house.

656
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: Yes, I had to get a life scan.

657
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: Then we had to have a call with them, and

658
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,800
you were on the call with me.

659
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,519
Speaker 3: I was on the car.

660
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,079
Speaker 1: We had to sell herself if I was in the

661
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,480
Epstein files. I lied, I said no.

662
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:12,639
Speaker 2: So we had to do a whole song and dance

663
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,159
and talk about like why we'd make good dog parents,

664
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:18,400
why we're interested in a you know, you got to

665
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,880
do a whole thing. Okay, so we do all that,

666
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,199
and then they then this woman because I just want

667
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:28,079
to set it up properly with what happened. Ok So,

668
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:30,079
this woman says to us, and you were on the

669
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,480
phone with me, so you can you can attest to this.

670
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,079
She says, why don't you guys come by and you

671
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,840
can meet her? And I'm like, great, how soon I

672
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,400
will admit I was the one totally driving this forward,

673
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,199
leaving you no room. I say, okay. She says, okay,

674
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,159
you can come like early this week, but plan to

675
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:55,280
come once and then come again and possibly take her

676
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,760
for a walk. Remember that she was not all about

677
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,199
She was like, you can come and stay for a

678
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,280
little while, and then you can then the next time

679
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:05,719
you can take her for a walk. And also maybe

680
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,400
you should consider fostering her because she's never been in

681
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,719
a home before. We don't know how she is in

682
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,800
a house, so you should consider fostering her before you

683
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,079
commit to adopting her. So I was like, okay, so

684
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,840
I take you and we go in and visit her,

685
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,519
and now you take it.

686
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

687
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: So we went to Van Eyes, and not the glamorous

688
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,639
part of Van Eyes that most people associate. It was

689
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,880
kind of a tougher part of Van Eyes. And we

690
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,960
were wandering around and finally a gated storefront opens as

691
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,880
we're walking up and down and finally so we go

692
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,079
in and there's this little rescue behind the gates and

693
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:48,639
they bring Sissy in and we It's interesting because it

694
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,199
was sort of like an interview with the rescue dog

695
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,639
because they sat us in an office and then they

696
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,519
brought in Sissy. Now, Steph had been so excited for

697
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:01,239
this meetup that she had had her hair blown out

698
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,119
and gone and gotten some dog treats, so she went

699
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:06,960
with dog treats in her pocket, so it would seem

700
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:11,440
like dogs just flocked to her like the pied Piper.

701
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,920
And so they sat us down and Sissy came in.

702
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:19,000
And Sissy's a sweet dog. I mean, she's sweet. Seemed

703
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,400
a little puppyish, bordering on mannic, but that's normal for

704
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,199
that age. We think she's a year, even though it's

705
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:29,800
a little troubling that she's had at least two litters

706
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,800
of puppies in a year that's under a under a

707
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,360
year of age. That's but why do you think because

708
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,639
they talked about how she had had she came in

709
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,119
with one of her older puppies.

710
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: Oh right, and then she was pregnant, yes, and.

711
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,679
Speaker 1: She was pregnant, yeah, which is it seems a little

712
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,920
grim But in any case, she was hyper and sweet.

713
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:54,519
Speaker 3: And you know, she was running.

714
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:58,559
Speaker 1: She was running in circles with uh some people like

715
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:00,800
to call the zuomies. I think those are the same

716
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,960
people that call her dogs for babies. But I you

717
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,679
know it, it was a very very sweet dog. I

718
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,840
mean almost I mean I love almost any dog. I

719
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,280
you know, pit bulls, you know, I want a mastiff.

720
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,760
But it you know, she was very, very active and

721
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,079
seemed very scattered and which you know is your sympathetic here,

722
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:29,599
like this is a scared, lovable, needy dog in the

723
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:33,320
way she's processing what was probably dramatic and scary. And

724
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,400
her upbringing is you know, she's very docile, and you

725
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,239
know some dogs are like Clyde and they're like, I'm

726
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,239
going to fuck you up if you take one step

727
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,840
towards me, and some are like sissy and they're like,

728
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:46,000
I just want to please, And I mean that melts

729
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:47,719
your heart because you know where it's coming from.

730
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: But you know, I.

731
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: Feel like in our particular current dog hunting, you know

732
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,320
set up, I feel like you are very, very very

733
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,760
motivated to get a dog. So I'm sort of I

734
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,159
think that I'm kind of being more of the pragmatist,

735
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,840
going Okay, what could if we rush into this without

736
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,599
looking at all the possibilities.

737
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: I'm being that, I'm being a kill joy.

738
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,039
Speaker 1: I'm definitely being a green chair and I see that,

739
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,360
and that's not my you know, I worked in the

740
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,039
kennel when I was nineteen. I love dogs, but it's

741
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:25,079
just there's part of me that was like, Okay, this

742
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,400
is a great dog who has never lived in a house,

743
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,079
who was a particular breed that I remember in college,

744
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:34,440
a friend of mine adopted a dog like that, and

745
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:38,719
it just tore up the house and was eating everything

746
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,840
get in its body. It passed chicken bones that needed

747
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,920
surgery to get stuff out of its intestine. It it

748
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:50,039
was so neurotic and had so much damage that it

749
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,039
just this guy was beside himself trying to take care

750
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:54,400
of it.

751
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:57,119
Speaker 3: So I just there was part of me.

752
00:40:57,159 --> 00:41:00,159
Speaker 1: And again, maybe I'm projecting that experience on Sissy, but

753
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:04,760
I'm just like, she's never lived in a house. She's very, very,

754
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,000
very high energy, which is again it's it's it's endearing

755
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:09,800
high energy. It's not mean high energy.

756
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: But I didn't think she had that high. I didn't

757
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,480
think her energy was that high. We took her for

758
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:18,119
a walk and she was like totally calm.

759
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,119
Speaker 3: She was, I mean she was like running around or no,

760
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,000
she was. I mean no, she wasn't.

761
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:26,559
Speaker 1: She wasn't trying to fight to get to cats and dogs,

762
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:30,280
but I mean she was. She was very I mean no, again,

763
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,440
I can't say a bad word. She was very sweet

764
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,360
and she was but I was just concerned that she's

765
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,000
never lived in a house. She's again, she was just

766
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,679
very It felt like she had a lot of nervous,

767
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,880
sweet nervous energy, and I worried that with the way

768
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,719
we are, we could end up we don't know, And

769
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,239
again I was saying, could we foster her? And now

770
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,440
the part of the story that we haven't gotten to

771
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:57,599
yet is the woman that we met at the dog

772
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,880
rescue was a different woman than you spoke to, and

773
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,880
you know, we sort of floated, Hey can we foster,

774
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:06,280
and she's like, no, you should just adopt her straight out.

775
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Forget that fostering shit, and you know.

776
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:12,039
Speaker 2: And in fact, she had none of the reservations.

777
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 3: She's like, you want to.

778
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: You want to take her for a walk, you want

779
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,199
to take her, now, get her and coming back.

780
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna bring your kids by. And then I was

781
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,840
like yeah, and then what would happen? She's like, yeah,

782
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,239
I don't. I see no reason why you.

783
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: Should leave with her that day, which again part of

784
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,480
me is like, this poor dog needs a home. But again,

785
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,320
if we if she's never lived in a house, and

786
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:33,519
you know, you.

787
00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:35,679
Speaker 3: Podcast, you teach, we've got a lot.

788
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: We both work from home, and if we've got a

789
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,159
dog that's just chewing up the furniture, nervous, barking, whining,

790
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,159
the stress level is going to go through the roof.

791
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,239
And I feel like I kind of have to play

792
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,840
that kill joy role, going here's the downside, here's what

793
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,559
could happen that could be a problem, and that with

794
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,880
this breed and my experience, I'm like, we can't rule

795
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,199
that that might be our life for the next two

796
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,559
or three years, which you know, I'm great enough.

797
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,639
Speaker 2: And they had told me that there was a lot

798
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,400
of interest in her, and I kind of believe it

799
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,719
because there had been a social media post that I

800
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,480
had responded to that had like three thousand likes, and

801
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:19,639
they said, yeah, we have a lot of interest in her,

802
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,800
and some of the interest is from people who are

803
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,079
preapproved adopters. So it put it the fear of God

804
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,880
into my head, like, oh, there's competition for this dog.

805
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:32,320
So then I texted the woman and I was like, hey, listen,

806
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:36,599
I absolutely love her. She's the sweetest dog, and you know,

807
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,840
but my husband has these concerns. And I said, if

808
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,760
somebody doesn't snatch her up an adopt would you consider

809
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,719
letting us foster her or I didn't even say it

810
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,800
like that. I just said like, hey, I'm sure someone's

811
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,239
going to snatch her up. I know she has a

812
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,280
lot of interest, but if that doesn't happen and you

813
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,079
want us to foster her, we would be interested. And

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858
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I guess the lesson here is for me to not

859
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,519
get so excited about each dog. But it's hard because

860
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:02,119
they always make it seem like there's a lot of

861
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:04,400
competition for these dogs, and you know.

862
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863
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: Would you consider at all, and this is I'm just

864
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,719
throwing this out there too, would you consider going to

865
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,800
like a shelter.

866
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:16,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

867
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like they have these big shelters they have Palmdale, Lancaster,

868
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,599
but we'd have to sess out the dog ourselves because

869
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:24,960
it wouldn't have been in a foster.

870
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: No, it's fine.

871
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:29,119
Speaker 1: I mean the one thing that you know, obviously, I

872
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:30,760
don't know if you've mentioned, we're going to go to

873
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,079
an adoption event in Culver City next week on Saturday. Yeah,

874
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:36,159
that's already on the document.

875
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm all for that, I mean, but going to a shelter.

876
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: I know it's different.

877
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:43,119
Speaker 2: I had been to a shelter, but that's much less

878
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,840
expensive and we would actually we could actually save a

879
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,119
dog from like euthanasia.

880
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: No, I totally get that. What here's I mean? I'm

881
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,000
for going to a shelter. You know, I love dogs.

882
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:55,039
Speaker 3: I you know, I was.

883
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:57,679
Speaker 1: Very excited when I got a job working at a kennel.

884
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,639
Turns out that when you're the nineteen year old, it

885
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,119
gets high to work at the kennel. You are always

886
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:04,480
where the dogs aren't. You're always where the old dog

887
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:05,119
poop is.

888
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Oh yeah, and I was.

889
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: I was with the dogs about two hours a day,

890
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,639
and I was with dog poop, cleaning it up. If

891
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:14,280
they were inside, I was cleaning the poop out of

892
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,599
the runs outside and if they're outside, I was cleaning

893
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:17,360
it up inside.

894
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: When you say a kennel, do you mean like a.

895
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: Boarding kenard shelter.

896
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:24,559
Speaker 1: No. I worked for a back in I mean that

897
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,360
was let's see, when I was nineteen. Was in the

898
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,920
late nineteen thirties, so back in those days, they didn't have.

899
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:32,199
Speaker 3: A lot of rescues.

900
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: There were rescues and there were shelters, but it wasn't

901
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,960
as formalized in the public. Access to rescue dogs was

902
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:42,559
not as you know developed as it is now. Back then,

903
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:46,599
I worked at a something called Candlewick Kendles, and I

904
00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:50,079
don't think they're there anymore, but I was very It

905
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:53,440
was a vet that also ran a boarding kennel, and

906
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,199
I was really excited because I was like, oh, I'm

907
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:57,239
going to get to work with dogs for the summer.

908
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: And I was working with dog poop for the summer.

909
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: And I even got to the point where you have

910
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:04,679
to take gloves on and off so often. I looked

911
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,079
at the other guys who were working there and they

912
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,320
had long since thrown away the gloves, and you just

913
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,840
learned to grab it with your hands. And at the

914
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,800
end of the day, you just take lava soap for

915
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,880
ten minutes until you take two layers of skin off

916
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,000
and then you go home. But that was that was

917
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:20,519
the job. But I get to spend two hours a

918
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,519
day with the dogs, and I just I used to

919
00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:28,800
have a good way with kind of aggressive dogs, and yeah,

920
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,719
it was weird, but I could, you know. And in

921
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,840
those days, there weren't that many pits. The scary dogs

922
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,199
of that era were do Dobermans and Dobermans and Rottwiler's,

923
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,880
and I could usually get a Dobman or a Rottweiler

924
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,039
that was kind of territorial in their cage.

925
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 3: To mellow out.

926
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,519
Speaker 1: They'd let me come in with them and kind of

927
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:53,400
but there were no I can't remember any pits, not

928
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:55,960
that they didn't exist, but they weren't nearly as popular

929
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:01,360
a breed. But anyway, that was I love dogs. I

930
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,480
am all you know, I want to get a dog.

931
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:05,880
I just you know, I kind of it just it

932
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,559
worked out for us and it was more luck than

933
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:10,519
anything else. But when we were looking for Penelope, I

934
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:14,039
said to you, I said, just because we've gotten too

935
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:15,480
sort of a mode where you're like, look at this one,

936
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,400
look at this one, look at this one. And I

937
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,320
was like, we'll know our dog when, We'll know our

938
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,719
dog when we see it. And you know I do.

939
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,480
The second I saw a Penelope, I was like, that's

940
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:31,239
our dog. And and you again, you have accused me

941
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,719
of maybe seeing that time in somewhat rose colored glasses,

942
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,800
which I agree, because Penelope was a little bit of

943
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,760
a handful for you to walk, and because you know,

944
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,679
I had clearly put on my dad bod weight because

945
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,599
I was she couldn't pull me over, I mean, and

946
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:51,920
so I didn't have the stress walking or she could

947
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,360
pull you.

948
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,079
Speaker 3: And we didn't even try the kids with it.

949
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,119
Speaker 2: It wasn't that she could pull me. It was that

950
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,480
she was getting out of the harness. She was getting

951
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:04,599
very prey driven, and she was kind of losing her mind.

952
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,239
When she would see a squirrel, she would her eyes

953
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,880
would almost roll in the back of her head and

954
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,679
she would just start going crazy and niting.

955
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,559
Speaker 3: At the least i'd pick her up too, Yeah, I'd

956
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:13,440
pick her up, right.

957
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: You'd be like, well, I would have to actually pick

958
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:18,079
her up and walk her away from sure the cat

959
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,960
or the squirrel, And I couldn't pick her up.

960
00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:22,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean not that I thought you not

961
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:23,760
being able to pick her up. It was funny.

962
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,039
Speaker 1: I was just, you know, when she was losing her mind.

963
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,559
He could get a little you know, annoying sometimes, but

964
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:31,840
it was kind of funny. The one I had one

965
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,119
really bad day with Penelope, which I remember and cop to,

966
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,079
was when she we Xander was saying goodbye to a playdate.

967
00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:43,320
And this was in second grade and his mom was

968
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,360
at the front door to pick her son up, and

969
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,199
there had been we have skunks running around our neighborhood,

970
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,119
like it's you know, skunk Central, and Penelope just suddenly

971
00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:58,039
caught a caught some sort of a sight or ascent,

972
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:04,440
and she blew passed you passed the mom picking up

973
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,239
her son, and she literally Penelope launched herself through a

974
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,440
dense hedge. She just blew through the hedge as if

975
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,800
it wasn't there, got to a squirrel a skunk on

976
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,679
the other side and killed it. And it was the

977
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,360
only animal that Penelope ever got to in our entire life.

978
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,199
With her, she had a braid ride, but she wasn't

979
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,559
very good at it. But and then so I had

980
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:29,239
to go get her because you were just like, oh

981
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,960
my god. So I had to go get her and

982
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,280
take the skunk out of her mouth, and she had

983
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,079
skunk and blood and she was and she growled and

984
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:40,199
sneered at me, and for some reason, I was just like, oh,

985
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,559
hell no, And so I picked her up and I

986
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:46,239
was just like really severe with her. I think that

987
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,559
was the only time I kind of spanked her on

988
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:51,920
the Buttom, like, you do not, but you know, it's

989
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:53,559
she's doing what was natural.

990
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,639
Speaker 3: But it just was that to me, was are you sure?

991
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,199
Speaker 2: Yes?

992
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,199
Speaker 3: Did I take away?

993
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 2: It got really upset and I was like I had

994
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,400
to like kind of get you to calm down and back.

995
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:06,239
You were taking it real personal. Oh.

996
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: I had blood on my mouth because I had I

997
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,679
had to fight with her for the skunk because I

998
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:12,880
wanted a piece of that too. It's like ten percent

999
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,079
goes to the big guy. But yeah, I was just

1000
00:53:17,199 --> 00:53:19,440
that was It was because I hadn't had to deal

1001
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,800
with my dog growing up, Saint Bernard or Saint Bernard mix.

1002
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,039
Speaker 3: My sister would be but.

1003
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,519
Speaker 1: Had no prey drive, and so I had never had

1004
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:32,920
to and it was in the kennel dogs couldn't get

1005
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,400
so I'd never really had to deal with my dog

1006
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:38,679
killing anything and being in kill mode, and so it

1007
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,840
was just, you know, I think it was just I

1008
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,039
got a lot of adrenaline up.

1009
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, you don't.

1010
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,679
Speaker 1: And it was like an anthropomorphized piepot into a human

1011
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,599
that had just killed somebody and we were fighting over

1012
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,159
over the crime scene.

1013
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,559
Speaker 3: It was grim, but that was That was the one

1014
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,280
bad day.

1015
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,599
Speaker 1: But otherwise, when she had things and we were walking her,

1016
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:01,559
I was walking, he was kind of funny. I'd just

1017
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:03,320
pick her up, I'd put her on my shoulder and

1018
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:06,039
she'd be fit to be tied that I was taking

1019
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:07,880
her away from her prize.

1020
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: My point is that we had to have a trainer. Yeah,

1021
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,639
that We had Laura London come a couple times, and

1022
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:17,800
then I had her on the show and people got

1023
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,119
real mad and were like, how dare her tell us

1024
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:24,679
what to do with our dog? They didn't, They didn't,

1025
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,800
got some blowback for that. I loved her. I thought

1026
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,360
she was she had a way with dogs.

1027
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: She got so funny because I have a special surprise

1028
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,639
guest just waiting outside.

1029
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,679
Speaker 2: But the point is, yes, I think that you are

1030
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,880
a little bit rose colored glasses with like our dog was.

1031
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:41,920
People was perfect.

1032
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,679
Speaker 3: No, Pepa wasn't.

1033
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: And we also didn't even we met her one time.

1034
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, we met.

1035
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: We you liked her just from her look on Facebook

1036
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,480
and then we were like, okay, yeah, I.

1037
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,199
Speaker 1: Just got a sense about her. I mean I also

1038
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,159
read Annie's right up of her and then we met her.

1039
00:54:57,199 --> 00:54:59,800
And you know, I think that I do think though

1040
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,000
that for her foibles and you know, no dog's perfect,

1041
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:06,039
and we know that going into this she did. You know,

1042
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,480
she had very fairly manageable issues and she did mesh

1043
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,639
really well. She was a big old couch potato. When

1044
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:15,880
she didn't see a squirrel or a cat or a skunk.

1045
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,960
She was very you know, very loving, and I mean

1046
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,440
she followed you from room to room. She was codependent

1047
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,559
with you, like crazy.

1048
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: Part of that though, which we've talked about is that

1049
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:32,639
we thought she was one and we were concerned, like, oh,

1050
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,719
that could be a lot of puppy energy a one

1051
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,280
year old dog. And Annie said, no, no, no, she's

1052
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,280
super mellow. She's like a total couch potato. So we

1053
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,360
were like, okay, And then it turns out she was

1054
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:42,960
probably five.

1055
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, four or five, right, we could tell.

1056
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,519
Speaker 1: I mean she had a couple of tattoos by the

1057
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:50,079
time we got her, too, so she'd seen some stuff.

1058
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:53,519
Speaker 2: She's been around, she'd done time. Oh yeah, So I

1059
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:57,840
guess in conclusion, you're saying, we'll know our doll all

1060
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,960
your role will.

1061
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,199
Speaker 3: Know the dog will know our I'm all for a dog.

1062
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Let's just be deliberate and make sure that we find

1063
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,440
the right dog for us.

1064
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: We might need to drive to there's Lancaster Shelter and

1065
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,320
Palmdale where I've seen a lot of dogs that seem sweet.

1066
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,400
That we might have to just go meet some dogs.

1067
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: About dogs or you back on math.

1068
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we'll see what we we'll see what

1069
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,440
we see there.

1070
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: Palmdale and Lancaster is the only place we can get

1071
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,280
a dog that reads a little suspicious. In my book,

1072
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,760
I feel like we're in breaking bad not adopt a dog.

1073
00:56:33,159 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you wanted to say before we

1074
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,920
say hello to our friends.

1075
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: Well, we did put out an appeal for questions. We've

1076
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,119
got a bunch of questions. We should probably feel those

1077
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:47,599
in Friday Friday Show. Yeah, so just letting people know

1078
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:49,800
that we saw them and we will be answering them.

1079
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: Yes, but before we wrap, let's say, how do our

1080
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:58,119
friends like Kelsey Fern Kelsey between two ferns. I call

1081
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:01,760
her christ to get the strap. Stephanie is a stinker wrinker, Sandra,

1082
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,280
it's not easy being green. Aaron's a dirty Sanchez, Leslie,

1083
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:08,280
stop coughing. I've been coughing a little bit today and

1084
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,400
I was almost said anxiety. But it's not anxiety, it's allergies.

1085
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:18,119
That's the word I'm looking for. Alicia Escalante from the

1086
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:22,679
city of Almonte probably has a shelter out there. Kelly

1087
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Brandt's she's not your aunt officially, but she could take

1088
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you to hip hop class. Don't worry about it. John

1089
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,880
Rebecca when he's so cute ishan vage Pey. He's got

1090
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,800
a baby, maybe another one on the way. Gabby and

1091
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Missy are they're still they're in this they're at the

1092
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super Bowl. They got tickets, well, they got tickets to

1093
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