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Speaker 3: Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in you of

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a Wildcat inshider. We got Jason Sheer on the lie. Jason,

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how are you living?

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Speaker 2: Man? Thanks for joining.

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Speaker 4: Us, Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure. Man.

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Speaker 3: We got a big game around the corner BYU versus

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U of A, my brother, the U of A fan

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who is flying in from New Mexico to watch. This

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game should be a big one. How give us a

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little update on U of A right now? How are

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they playing? What are they looking like? Obviously the top

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team in the country, But.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think things in Big twelve play

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of n cover as of late. I mean Cincinnati was

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the last game, and they played Arizona close for a

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half before Arizona blew them out. At UCF was close

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for a half until that game kind of spread and

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then you know, they have West Virginia tomorrow, which could

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be a kind of a sneaky game with the short

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turnaround between then and b YU and all that. But

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they continue to roll I mean, they're just they're they're

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playing really good basketball. They're beating teams and in different ways,

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and they haven't really had that that really scary game.

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I mean, I guess U c l A Was probably

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the closest thing early in the year to that that

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scary game that comes down to the last minute or

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two minutes. But most games that they've played have kind

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of been decided by then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the identity of the issue of a team?

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Would you say?

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, it's unique because they don't shoot a

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lot of threes at all. They're the in terms of

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three point attempts, they're the lowest of any Power four team.

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They beat you up physically, they rebound, they defend, and

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and they score inside and and you know, it's just

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they they kind of it comes in waves with with

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Crebus at center. They have two starting quality power forwards.

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The guards are solid. They just kind of beat you

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up and and wear you down. And that's kind of

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what we saw, for instance, the Cincinnati game. That game

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was close and then all of a sudden, Cincinnati just

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didn't have the horses and Arizona scored them thirty seven

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to thirteen in the second half. And a lot of

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teams have done that. You know, Arizona has done that

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to a lot of teams. So they kind of just

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wear them down with the size and the defense and

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the rebounding and kind of pull away in the second half.

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Speaker 3: What's the scouting report right now on the Cougars. Have

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you been able to sit down with the coaches and

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find out what they're seeing from byu uh?

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Speaker 4: Not yet? You know, the focus on is on West Virginia,

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But you know, for b YU is good. I think

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everyone realizes they're they're really good. That you know, that

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core three guys that they have will put that against

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anybody in the nation. And going on the road, I

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think they know, you know, Arizona has been in at

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Connecticut and they played a couple of boutral court games

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and like Burbingham whatever, but nothing's going to come close

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to probably what they see on Monday. They know that's

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going to be an insane environment and probably they're one

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of their hardest games to date this season.

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Speaker 3: The the b y u U of a rivalry I

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think is gonna be a fun one to in the future.

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Obviously BA football and you of A football. They've had

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some good head to heads historically, not only in the

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former conference.

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Speaker 2: Now with the cur current conference, that was a nail bider. Uh.

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Speaker 3: This last year in Tucson, a wild and wet one.

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Uh that the storm they came through. But I feel

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like basketball is going to be maybe even better.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, you know, it's interesting someone on I

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was talking to someone the other day and no, Arizona's

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rival in the PAC twelve was was was U c

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l A?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: And and now it's UCLA is one game a season

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and maybe that goes away in the next few years

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or whatever, and then a SU isn't good at basketball?

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think b YU is probably the ends that makes the

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most sense, you know, close in terms of location, relatively close,

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and they're not one anywhere, you know, with with that

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coaching staff and the NI and all that, that YU

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basketball team is gonna you know, they're They're not kind

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of a flash in the paan at least I don't

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think they are. And it's fun, you know, it's it's

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super talented teams. When you look at the conference in

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terms of pure talent, you can make the case that

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the UYU is up there with anyone even in the nation,

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and so it's gonna be a fun one. They've already

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had close games. I expect another exciting game on Monday.

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So I think it's kind of, you know, natural, that

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that these two teams kind of become a rivalry, similar

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to what you said with with football, generally speaking, these

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games are close and they tend to be fun football games,

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and I think it's it's going to be the same

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for basketball.

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Speaker 3: Jason Sheer on the line, Wildcat Authority uh part of

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the two four seven Sports Network here on your Utah

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ESPN Radio network, getting into the phone a little bit,

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getting prep, getting ready.

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Speaker 2: What what weaknesses does.

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Speaker 3: You you of A have, right, if you're going to

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kind of poke holes into what you of A doesn't

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do too well, what are the weaknesses you know?

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Speaker 4: I guess it would be outside shooting. It's it's interesting because, well,

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you know, I mentioned that, like they don't shoot threes.

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It's just that a team so far hasn't been able

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to force Arizona to only shoot threes and eventually we're

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gonna come across the opponent that says, let's put everyone

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in the paint and Arizona to shoot threes and see

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what happens, And that would probably be the weakness to me. Also,

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you know their bench right now. Toby walk is fantastic,

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but Anthony Delorso, who's kind of supposed to be their

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offensive spark off the bench, has really struggled in being

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twelve play He's not been good at all. So I

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think that's probably a weakness right now. It's just their

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overall wing depths, guard depths coming off the bench, and

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then their ability to shoot threes. I don't know if

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it's a weakness as much as it is a question

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because we haven't seen a team that has been able

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to force Arizona into shooting threes, and so when that happens.

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would be something that would be a concern down the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, there's not much weakness in this U

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of a podcast team. How did they compose this team?

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You know, what was the transfer portal like this offseason?

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What was the attrition and the additions.

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Speaker 2: On the roster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, their biggest priority was retaining their point guard, Jaden Browley,

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and and he's been absolutely fantastic. He's been one of

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the best point guards in the country. That was their

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number one priority. They were not gonna let him go.

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They made that very clear that they wanted to keep him.

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And then and then they they from there. You know,

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the Brandon Burriez was a top ranked freshman, they got him.

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CoA Pete was a top ranked freshman, they got him.

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They went overseas to get Ivon Kharchenhov, who's has probably

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been the biggest surprise. He started at the small forward position.

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And then it was all about retaining guests. You know,

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they retained Toby o Waka, they retained Mo Krebis at

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the be the starting center. You know, they retained Anthony Door. So,

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like I said, and so you know, it's always going

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to be a mixture of development and kind of adding

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the pieces in the portal. Next year they'll probably have

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to add a little bit more in the portal because

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guys are leaving. But they were able to kind of

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mix and match, and you know, a lot of the

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discussion around Arizona is how young they are. They have

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freshman's at three of the you know, five starting positions.

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and so they rely on youth. But at the same

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time they got guys like Bradley and Crevis and Awaka

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who have been there, and so it's a good mixture

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of talent. And I think that in terms of roster construction,

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this is probably by far, in my opinion, at least

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Tommy Lloyd's best job of putting the roster together and

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making sure the piece is fit.

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Speaker 3: The Big Twelve is the g league with university logos.

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Speaker 2: It's a very talented, deep gauntlet league.

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Speaker 3: I've made the statement that the SEC thinks that in

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football they have a gauntlet. That is a farce, that

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is fictitious, that is a lie. The true gauntlet resides

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in the Big Twelve basketball gauntlet. This conference is ridiculous.

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The strength of schedule for all these teams is robust.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, It's insane, it really is. And like I mean,

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I would say, it goes off to a hot start,

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it looks like one of the best teams in the country,

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and they lose two games and you look at it

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and you're like, Okay, You're like, like, that's gonna happen

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to a lot of teams in the Big twelve. And

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you know, you look at you know, Houston and BYU

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and in Arizona, and you know, even I was State,

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I would say the beat the heck out of Purdue, right,

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and you look at these teams kids, is when they're

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healthy is awesome. I mean, the top of the conference

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is so good. And even then, you know we focus

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on the top, but like UCF is having a really

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nice season, TCU is still you know in hard out there.

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They're a hard team to play. And so you know,

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to me, yeah, the SEC has some good teams at

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the top, but I don't think the conference as a

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whole is a strong Allen's the Big Twelve is there's

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not an easy game in the Big Twelve. You might

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see some bailouts because there's some really good teams, but

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there's no games where you go, man, that's that's going

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to be super easy. It's just it doesn't exist in

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the Big Twelve, especially when you have to go on

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the road and you know, Arizona schedule from here on out,

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like starting out with the BYU game, and there's gonna

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be some difficult games. I mean the stretch. They have

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not faced that stretch yet where they've played, you know,

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Iowa States and Houston's and Texas Texas and all that.

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Like it is.

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Speaker 2: It is a very.

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Speaker 4: Difficult conference, and I think that's part of what makes

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it so fun.

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Speaker 3: It makes it, uh, it's a blash. Do you feel

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like you've ays been overall the athletic department been happy

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with the move from the PAC twelve to the Big twelve. Well,

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what's been the assessment after being in the league now

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't heard any complaints at all. And I know,

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and I think the one of the biggest reasons is

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there's I feel like the competitive balance in the Big

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twelve is better than it was. You know, it's just

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it's it's easier financially, you know. I think there's more

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ten or PAC twelve and and and so I think

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that's one of the reasons. And you know, at first

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maybe there's some concern with travel and things like that.

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That the Big twelve has been really good with the

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way they schedule things, you know, TV wise, I think

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the ability to get out there nationally has been significantly better.

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And I can honestly legitimately say I haven't heard one

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coach since it's all started complaining about being in the

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Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go.

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Speaker 3: I mean from an administrative standpoint, like the administration everything

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all Rainbow, Sunshine and everything else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think what they're finding out is

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is and with the new the newer ad DEESI a

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read frand squat Arizona. You know, football, I think it's

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getting more focused, not necessarily in basketball. Arizona's always going

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to be a basketball school, but I think also with

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the Big Twelve, you know, you're able to kind of

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you know, well, while football is a big focus, there's basketball.

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It's just as important and and and so you know, financially,

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football will always be kidding. But I think it's a

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breath of fresh air when you look at the Big

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Twelve and to realize that that basketball's you know, every

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team seems to be involved in basketball, where as opposed

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in the past, maybe there are teams like in Oregon

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State or Washington State or whatever who maybe weren't all

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in in basketball or weren't. You know, basketball wasn't as

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important to them. When you look at the Big twelve.

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Pretty much across the board, basketball is a sink, and

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I think that's important for school like Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I know we're talking hoop here, but give me an eve.

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Speaker 3: Ou great on the twenty twenty five you of a

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football season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to me, it was just a or d.

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You know, like I surprised me. I thought Arizona would

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fight to make a bowl before the season, when I

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saw them in spring and all that, and you know,

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I think the biggest surprise was just the defense. The

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defense was really really good dandigan Zalez did an excellent job.

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They lost in the Holiday Bowl. Had they won, it

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would have been a ten win season, which doesn't happen

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with Arizona football, but a really fun season. Won the

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won the Territorial Cup against a if you competed really

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for pretty much every game this season. They weren't blown out.

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Iowa State was the closest thing to a blowout, but

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they competed in every game and just a fun watch

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and Bret Brennan got some momentum after. You know, Arizona

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wasn't good in the first year, and we'll see how

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it carries on to his third year.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: How many double did you win seasons as you have

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a football had, I don't know in the modern era.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, not many. I think you probably counted on

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one hand. It doesn't It does not happen, absolutely, I

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think I'm trying to think off the top of my head,

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but I think this would have been that like the eighth.

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Speaker 2: Ever eighth ever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean it's it's it would have been

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a very big deal had they got them head to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just pulled it up right here. So ninety

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three ten wins, ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Twelve wins, twenty fourteen to ten wins, twenty twenty three

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ten wins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it would have been It would have been

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a very very big deal.

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Speaker 2: Huh crazy.

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Speaker 3: And what's interesting is like nine wins doesn't even come

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about all that often, you know, typically like the best

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you get his eight and five in the last thirty years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it just it just doesn't happen. But

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there's other football in that. And I think the biggest

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thing also is consistency. Like even when you look at

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those teams at one, you know, the eight, nine, ten, games.

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A few years later, they're back down to four or five,

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and that'll be Bret Brettan's challenge too, and it'll be

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interesting to see if he could keep it up because

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a lot of times you look like coaches left or

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they were, you know, they kind of ran their course.

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Like rich Rod did well at Arizona, got them to

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that point and then he fell off the same with Scoops,

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and so it'll be interesting. It's about which coach, you know,

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Brent hopefully can make this a consistent successful program. That's

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been the challenge in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: How was you of a football done in the transfer portal?

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Since you know he's opened and closed, what have they acquired?

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Speaker 2: What have they lost?

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Speaker 4: So they're you know, Brett Bredman is very big on

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retaining the roster. So it's similar to Jaden Bradley with basketball.

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I said their number one priority was retaining No F

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F quarterback and they were able to do that and

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then from there, you know, it was retaining the younger guys.

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They have younger guys that they really like on those

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sides of the ball. They were able to do that.

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The biggest priority was getting better on the offensive line,

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and then Arizona lost all their safeties Genesis Smith Dalton

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Johnson and traded Stukes, and so they had to replace that,

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and so they went to the portal and they basically

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rebuilt the whole secondary and there's gonna be competition there.

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And they went with some guys from smaller schools and

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some guys from bigger schools that maybe didn't pan out there.

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And so that would be the biggest question heading into

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spring ball is how those guys do in the secondary

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and what kind of drop off there will be, if any,

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and there's if the drop offs not big. They you know,

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they nailed the transfer portal again, but it was mostly

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about retaining and then filling needs. They took twenty guys.

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A lot of teops take more than that, but they

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took twenty and a lot of them are on the

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defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Which acquisition are you most excited about? And which attrition

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were Where was you the U of a Wildcat Nation,

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the Wildcat Authority Nation most sad about?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the one I'm most excited about. You know,

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Traden Steeks was really good last year. They lost him.

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I hope he gets drafted. If not, you know, he

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had a great Arizona career, but they were placed on

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Miss Nebraska Trands or Malcolm Hertzog who was injured this

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past season. But really good player, I mean really good player.

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He should be able to step in and play well

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right away. They didn't really lose any one in the

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portal that was on the too deep. The biggest issue

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was just graduations, Like all these guys kind of graduated,

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they they went, you know, they hit the transfer portal hard,

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really hard last year and to some of their better players,

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you know, that whole secondary. Those guys graduated. To Sean

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McKnight on the defensive line, he graduated. So I think

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in terms of low in the portal, there really weren't any.

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It was just kind of matter of these guys college

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careers ending and then having to replay him.

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Speaker 3: What's the buzz around Jake Griffin? I know he's Arizona product.

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I think he can't remember if he came out of

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Mountain View or Mesa Red Mountain. He ended up at

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by US a rotational tackle, saw some pt for byu

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what's the buzz around Jake Griffin coming down to UVA.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, his brother Jackson is also alignment on the team.

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It'll be interesting guy. I think he's probably more of

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a death guy right now. But they're gonna have an

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open competition at one of the tackle spots. They were

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able to get a six year for Tristan Bounds, who

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was the starting tackle last year, so that's locked up.

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But the other tackle position, it's gonna be wide open,

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and so Griffin will be able to compete up that

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and it'll be interesting to see. There's gonna be a

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few positions on the O line that are kind of

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up for grabs.

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Speaker 3: I know we're trying not to look ahead, but how

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do you think how do you say the or how

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do you think the by u U of.

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Speaker 2: A basketball game is gonna play out at the Merrit Center.

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Speaker 4: You know, I would love for Arizona to go undefeated.

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I am a firm believer, and I don't get like

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college basketball is so different than college football. College basketball

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there's so many more games college football. You lose one

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game and your whole season can change. Arizona is not

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going undefeated, I could say, at least I don't think

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they are. I think b YU is a really tough game.

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I just think going in that environment, you know, Arizona

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is playing Saturday at twelve, and then they're flying at

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Buyu and they were at UCF last week. Short turned

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around like eventually, it still kind of catches up to you.

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And I think b Yu is super talented. I actually

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for a while have had Monday Petsula that Arizona's first lost.

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I just think it's a tougher environment. B Uyu is

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really good. They match up pretty well with Arizona. But

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I think it's going to be a heck of a

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game either way.

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Speaker 2: Jason's your best way to support you.

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Speaker 3: What you do, how you do it. Over at Wildcat Authority.

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