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<v Speaker 1>For election.

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<v Speaker 2>How can we know our vot's even gonnaccount is giving

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<v Speaker 1>We get the insight scoop.

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<v Speaker 3>of insight and logic and reason, and you get to

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<v Speaker 3>read what aw R. Hawkins writes about the Second Women.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a Second Amomen expert. Welcome back to the Morning show,

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<v Speaker 3>A W. R. Hawkins. It's always great speaking with you, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Brian, great being with you, buddy. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>I know the quick answer to the question, what's the

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<v Speaker 3>Harris Waltz administration position on the Second Amendment? They would

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<v Speaker 3>like to eradicate it. I think boiled down if they

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<v Speaker 3>were given their wishes and their hopes and their dreams

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<v Speaker 3>and actually said it out loud, they just take it

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<v Speaker 3>away from us.

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<v Speaker 1>Your take, well, yeah, I can't argue with your take.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to be as anti gun as Biden has been.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically we had Biden Harris anti gun, and now

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<v Speaker 2>they want to do Harris Waltz anti gun two point

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<v Speaker 2>zero and there's no difference. All the same gun controls

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<v Speaker 2>and all the same ignorance of how gun loss work well.

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<v Speaker 3>And thankfully we do have the Heward decision and the

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<v Speaker 3>Brewin decision, a lot of other decisions that conclude as

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<v Speaker 3>you and I both have under always understood it to be,

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<v Speaker 3>the second moment is an individual right. You and I,

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<v Speaker 3>in the state of nature have a right to defend

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves with whatever means is necessary. The founding fathers knew this,

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<v Speaker 3>and they put in an Act of the Second Amendment.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that. Right after number one comes the right

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<v Speaker 3>to keeping bear arms. Obviously, that right to keeping bear

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<v Speaker 3>arms was what allowed us to liberate ourselves from British oppression.

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<v Speaker 3>They knew it, and they wanted to make sure the

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<v Speaker 3>government couldn't take them away like the British were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>The American column right, No, you're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>You're exactly right, And an important point made with somebody yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, not only did they protect the right for

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<v Speaker 2>them to own arms. But the arms they owned were

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<v Speaker 2>very much like the arms at the military owned. When

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<v Speaker 2>the Redcoats and they did and they had their muskets,

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<v Speaker 2>they were met with muskets very much like their own.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course the left doesn't want included in elementary school,

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<v Speaker 2>high school, and college curriculum.

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<v Speaker 1>But there wasn't a large gap.

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<v Speaker 2>Between the average citizen and the standing army as far

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<v Speaker 2>as equipment went. And so I think that's important too.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only did our framers hedge in gun rights, but

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<v Speaker 2>they hedged in gun rights with the intention. You can

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<v Speaker 2>read Fairless forty six and know it. They hedged in

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<v Speaker 2>gun rights with the intention that even the standing army

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't overrun the people because the people would be armed

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<v Speaker 2>and they would be equipped well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know she was in her capacity as the

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<v Speaker 3>district attorney at San Francisco, she endorsed it. Amikas Carey

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<v Speaker 3>Breathe in that Heller case, which established the right the

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<v Speaker 3>individual right to keep them bear arms, she claimed that

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<v Speaker 3>it only provides a militia related right to bear arms.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that fails to appreciate history. Aw are because

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<v Speaker 3>local militias that'd be just like folks in your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd get together and form little units that would defend

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<v Speaker 3>and protect themselves. We didn't have standing armies, we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have organized sheriff's departments. And these are the early era

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<v Speaker 3>of our country. It was up to an individual to

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<v Speaker 3>defend himself. And sometimes you got together with the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the folks in the neighborhood and next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>those militias are actually fighting the British right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're right and beyond that, but you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you're wrong. Here, I'm saying you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's something else that's right. Not only did that happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you look at James Madison, he clearly anticipated

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<v Speaker 2>that the people would come together in militia to spend

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<v Speaker 2>off the federal government at some point. He anticipated that

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<v Speaker 2>they could do that, that if they came together, even

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<v Speaker 2>a standing army could not defeat them, because they would

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<v Speaker 1>Again. Federalists forty six or you one hundred sent right.

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<v Speaker 2>This militia is part of American history, and it's also

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<v Speaker 2>part of what our founders anticipated would be occurring in

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<v Speaker 2>the future as America progressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, isn't it an interesting observation, elwr when you hear

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<v Speaker 3>someone like Joe Biden say there's no way, you know

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<v Speaker 3>you can you can shoot down in F sixteen with

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<v Speaker 3>your with your AK forty seven or AR fifteen. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it wasn't the afghanistanis that pretty much held us

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<v Speaker 3>at bay for twenty years until we finally pulled out,

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<v Speaker 3>And all they were armed with was a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>AK forty sevens and whatever they could scrounge up by

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<v Speaker 3>way of donations from foreign countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, you're not wrong. I'll tell you this though.

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<v Speaker 2>But this makes the point though that we were making earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>When we begin to speak there is the left wants

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<v Speaker 2>to take away my AR fifteens because they're weapons of war.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't leave weapons of war. Well, they're not weapons

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<v Speaker 2>of war. There's some automatic twenty two rifles. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you start thinking about F fifteens and other things, then

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<v Speaker 2>you really appreciate the gap between the military and the people.

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<v Speaker 1>As I say, at our.

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<v Speaker 2>Founding, there was no gap the there was no gap

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<v Speaker 2>between the equipment the military used and the equipment the

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<v Speaker 2>people used. Now there is such a gap that Biden

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<v Speaker 2>can make those threats, and I don't think our founders

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<v Speaker 2>would have ever tolerated this gap developing. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>People ask me all the time, should you be able

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<v Speaker 2>to own a nuclear weapon?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's practical because I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>you would store the components. But as far as I've

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<v Speaker 2>said all the time, you know you give me right

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<v Speaker 2>now where I sit, literally within arms reach, there is

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<v Speaker 2>say three hundred blackout on an AR fifteen frames suppressed.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be no more dangerous if that were fully

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<v Speaker 2>automatic in hint and had a flamethrower on it, I

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<v Speaker 2>would be no more dangerous Because I'm a law bided citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't really think of what weapons I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be able to own, because no matter what I owned,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be a danger to my fellow citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>except for those who decide to break into my home

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<v Speaker 2>or try to do harm to myself or my family

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<v Speaker 2>during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a danger to those people.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in which case you are obviously entitled to defend yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you have a castle doctor where

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<v Speaker 3>you live, but we certainly have it here in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>You are presumed that that person who has entered your

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<v Speaker 3>home unlawfully and without permission is there to do you

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<v Speaker 3>grievous bodily harm, and you can use deadly force for

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<v Speaker 3>anybody that breaks in your home. That's a warning to

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<v Speaker 3>all would be criminals. Yes, we out here in the

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<v Speaker 3>general public own five hundred million firearms, and the vast

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<v Speaker 3>majority of us are law abiding, because if we weren't,

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<v Speaker 3>there would be a literal day to day bloodmath in

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm just I'm just telling you, Brian, you you

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<v Speaker 1>almost broke.

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<v Speaker 2>My heart there. You said five hundred million, And I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're right. I'm not arguing with you, but can't

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<v Speaker 2>we do better than that? I mean really, I was

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<v Speaker 2>so excited for this interview and then you said that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went, wow, what a dawn? Five million? Can't

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<v Speaker 1>we do better than that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a three hundred and forty or so million live

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<v Speaker 3>human beings, Some of them are not eligible to on

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<v Speaker 3>a fire because of their age, you know, kids, but adults.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, everybody should have one. It's the ultimate equalizer.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, there was I'm sure you've heard the stories

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<v Speaker 3>about Springfield, Ohio, overrun with twenty thousand Haitian immigrants over

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<v Speaker 3>the past four years. There was a woman who was

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<v Speaker 3>testifying before one of their hearings on it, and she

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out, she goes, I'm afraid they have threatened me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a ninety six pound woman. How could I possibly

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<v Speaker 3>defend myself? My response is, get yourself a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's it, you know, that's what you do. You

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<v Speaker 2>get a nine millimeter and if she's that small, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she wants a three eighty, but get get either one.

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<v Speaker 2>Get acquainted with it and understand. You know, our founders

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<v Speaker 2>understood our greatest property, no matter how much you saved

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<v Speaker 2>in your four oh one k or in your IRA

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, your greatest property remains your life. And our

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<v Speaker 2>founders understood that law should law should center on our

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<v Speaker 2>ability to defend that life. And people have to under

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<v Speaker 2>we have to get back to that understanding. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why you carry a gun. You don't carry a gun

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<v Speaker 2>because you love guns, although you may, You carry a

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<v Speaker 2>gun because you have to defend that chief property and

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<v Speaker 2>that's your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the life of my wife and children as well.

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<v Speaker 3>That's important to me as well. And you know the

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<v Speaker 3>other component of this, and I'll look at the heller

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<v Speaker 3>K's and the Brewined decision. Those are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the targets of the left now, much in the same

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<v Speaker 3>way Roe v. Wade was a target of the right

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<v Speaker 3>for decades. They're going to do everything they can to

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<v Speaker 3>overturn that and to remove our right, are our individual

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<v Speaker 3>constitutional right to keep them bare arms. And Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 3>has set it out loud on a bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 3>She does embrace the idea to packing the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 3>so they can get what they want by appointing a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of liberal justices to undo what we already have

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<v Speaker 3>a right.

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<v Speaker 2>And anybody who doubts what you just said has not

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<v Speaker 2>been paying attention because heller Who's decided in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight, from the moment it was decided, even until

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, if you read leftist commentators, they will

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<v Speaker 2>say the Supreme Court created, yeah, an individual right in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight, and that does exactly what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That sets up a liberal court to flip that decision,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that decision went too far, that decision created or right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all they're doing is they're laying seed for harvest

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<v Speaker 2>down the road. And so anyone who anyone who's listening

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<v Speaker 2>to what you're saying, doesn't believe it, they're crazy to

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<v Speaker 2>the left. They can't wait to get control and get

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<v Speaker 2>that court back under their control. And to me, that's

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<v Speaker 2>another reason why Trump has to win. We need more

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<v Speaker 2>jurists who are pro constitution not less.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen to that, aw R. Hawkins. She also.

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<v Speaker 3>Advocated for at least when the five seconds she was

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<v Speaker 3>a single Democrat who was going to vote for and

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<v Speaker 3>then dropped out. But it was twenty nineteen. She endorsed

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of a buyback program for basically all semi

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<v Speaker 3>automatic weapons. So that's another sort of solution that she

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<v Speaker 3>believes is going to actually work. Seriously, AWR, wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 3>the law currently law binding firearms owners into a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of felons because folks like you and I probably wouldn't comply.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But I would also get money for nice dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I would sell them a rusted out a gun

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<v Speaker 2>for three hundred bucks. But yeah, I like like I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I tweeted last week dear Democrats, I didn't buy my

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<v Speaker 2>guns from you, so you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back, and that's it. I'm done. That's the end

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<v Speaker 1>of my argument. I'm done, you know. And it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a farce to believe these Stebens would give you

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<v Speaker 2>the value.

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<v Speaker 1>Of your gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus, it's such a farce to believe that, having taken

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<v Speaker 2>your guns, they would actually protect you. Plus it's such

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<v Speaker 2>a break from our founders to believe that I would

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<v Speaker 2>actually rely on an agent of the state to keep

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<v Speaker 2>me safe. Part of that Jeffersonian dream is that individual life,

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<v Speaker 2>that life full of individuality, where we protect ourselves and

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<v Speaker 2>our own That was Jefferson's dream for the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>I will not lean on government for protection. I bore

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<v Speaker 2>that idea. I keep a gun on my hip, I

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<v Speaker 2>keep a rifle on my truck, and I can take

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<v Speaker 2>care of myself. So that's how we'll do that. Heymen,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a w R and I actually had to

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<v Speaker 3>pull my own handgun out in self defense. I had

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that tried to kill me on the expressway

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<v Speaker 3>by ramming me and trying to run me off the road,

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<v Speaker 3>and I really was in fear for my life. And

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<v Speaker 3>when I got out of my car because it became disabled,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the first thing I had in my hands was

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<v Speaker 3>my gun. I got the car out and just looked

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<v Speaker 3>very carefully at where I was and where he was

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<v Speaker 3>relative to me, and that's when I saw him walking

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<v Speaker 3>across the street, and I thank god I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to use it, but at least I would. I was

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<v Speaker 3>able to defend myself if I had to. And that

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<v Speaker 3>was a situation where it was extremely unequal. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>was like six ' four, about two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>plus pounds. Hey man, I'm five ten and way ended

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<v Speaker 3>about one hundred and eighty five hundred and ninety, so

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<v Speaker 3>I had a sizeable disadvantage of that guy. No problem

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<v Speaker 3>with the great equalizer, but just quick point.

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<v Speaker 2>I know of our times getting sore, But what you

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<v Speaker 2>said is important because everybody goes well, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>maybe if we all gave up our guns, it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>more peaceful. No, once you get in that situation where

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<v Speaker 2>you take away that leveling tool, then you get a

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<v Speaker 2>situation where it might makes right. In the strongs who

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<v Speaker 2>have criminal or evil intent will dominate in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where it might makes right. And that's what the gun

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<v Speaker 2>is so important for because it let's that ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>pound woman you talked about in Springfield, Ohio. It lets

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<v Speaker 2>her make them afraid of her. That's how it should work.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be afraid of them attacking me.

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<v Speaker 2>I want them to be afraid of the repercussions of

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<v Speaker 2>coming after me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I want. And so that's what that woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want that woman to fear them.

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<v Speaker 2>I want them to fear the repercussions of attacking her.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how our founders looked at it. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>they looked at it. And Nood explains it better than you. A. W. R.

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<v Speaker 3>Hawkins brightbart dot com book market read what he has

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<v Speaker 3>to write regularly. I owns enjoy our conversations. Man, keep

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<v Speaker 3>up the great work. I'll look forward to having you

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<v Speaker 3>back on the show real soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Great being with you, buddy, Have a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight nineteen fifty five care CD Talk Station Daniel Davis

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