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<v Speaker 1>Hey, what is going on? My prom Meethian Nights. We

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<v Speaker 1>are going to continue our journey through the dig Bible

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<v Speaker 1>podcast season one, and here we're going over our first

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<v Speaker 1>conference that we ever went to, and this was from

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<v Speaker 1>Here the Watchman, and Man, this was such a great

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<v Speaker 1>conference that the first time I got to meet Derek

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<v Speaker 1>and Sharon Gilbert in person, Vicy, Joe Anderson, and so

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<v Speaker 1>many more. But I got a treat for you, guys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Kerr, the CEO of Here the Watchman, I'm good

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<v Speaker 1>friends with him and I recently just recorded an episode

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<v Speaker 1>for his podcast and he extended a discount code for

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<v Speaker 1>their upcoming conference. Now, they have a conference coming up

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<v Speaker 1>August to twenty second through the twenty fourth, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>called Remnant Rising and it's in Springfield, Missouri. And man,

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<v Speaker 1>they got a banger of the lineup, guys. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>sky Watch TV team is going to be there, Derek, Sharon, Nita, Donna, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>and then on top of that, they got Jamie Walden Andy. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>check this. Nathan Reynolds is going to be there along

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<v Speaker 1>with Vickie, Joy, Anderson and so many more. Here's your

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<v Speaker 1>chance to meet these people. Shake their hand, get an autograph,

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<v Speaker 1>ask your questions. I'm telling you, guys, these conferences are phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>So go to hear the watchmen. Dot com men m

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<v Speaker 1>e N sign up, get your tickets and check out.

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<v Speaker 1>Put in Justin ten for a ten percent off code.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, that's enough to sit back, relax and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this journey.

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<v Speaker 2>We should read our bibles. A's men digging for buried

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<v Speaker 2>treasure in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Most high game of the nations. Their inheritance. When the

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<v Speaker 1>divided mankind, he fixed the borders of people's according to

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<v Speaker 1>the number of the sons of God.

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<v Speaker 2>In those days and for some time after, giant Nephilites

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<v Speaker 2>lived down to the earth. For whenever the sons of

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<v Speaker 2>God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children

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<v Speaker 2>who became the heroes and famous warriors.

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<v Speaker 1>Of ancient tides.

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<v Speaker 2>Take no part in the fruitless deeds of darkness.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet expose that though a.

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<v Speaker 3>Thousand and fall at your side, though ten thousand are

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<v Speaker 3>dying around you.

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<v Speaker 1>These ears will not touching lives of garden man. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta dig it. Hell, old fellow treasure hunters, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the excavation side. I'must in alongside and when we got Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen and Chad will be your guides on this excursion.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you brought your shovel in your compass because we

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<v Speaker 1>got the map.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? All my local guys and gals and

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<v Speaker 1>long distance piles. We're back, crug over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't. I can't not laugh at that

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<v Speaker 2>every time. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I just look at him.

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<v Speaker 3>Makes it worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a while, it's been a while. I missed

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. Well, I missed being you missed me, Me

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<v Speaker 1>and Steven got to hang out a little. Yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what, I'm sad. You will not want

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<v Speaker 2>to miss another one of those that was.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hooked.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'll go next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Change your change your outlook on a bunch of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned more this weekend, and I've learned in a

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<v Speaker 2>long time as far as uh you know, other than

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<v Speaker 2>my own studies, like just unbelievable, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell him where we went.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we went to a spiritual warfare conference up in Jeffersonville, Indiana,

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<v Speaker 2>which was hosted by here the Watchman, Here the Watchmen,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh some phenomenal speakers. We we kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>a well personally, I should say for me personally, I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't heard of a lot of the people prior to

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<v Speaker 2>this besides Derek Gilbert and Elie Marzouli was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be there and then La had something come up where

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't make it, so they had to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>move and reposition some people around. But we were still

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<v Speaker 2>really excited because we had just done that episode with Derek,

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<v Speaker 2>so we definitely wanted to go have a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>meet him in person and maybe have him sign a

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<v Speaker 2>book or two, which which he did, and got to

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<v Speaker 2>find a whole bunch of new people in this space

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<v Speaker 2>that had so much knowledge and in different areas of

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<v Speaker 2>just the kind of things that we don't hear in church,

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<v Speaker 2>but the kind of things that are in that that

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<v Speaker 2>Divine World Council point of view, and it really it

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<v Speaker 2>just helps solidify everything that we've been looking into.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I thought was just so awesome was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Derek said in his episode with us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>deep inside that sixty year old body is that six

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<v Speaker 1>year old kid. You know, Hey, mom, guess what, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>gay mom, guess what when you find something out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how we are looking through scripture and finding

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<v Speaker 1>these things. And it was for me, it was great

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<v Speaker 1>just being in a crowd of people of hey, guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. You get the feed off each other, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to talk and share my nuggets, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with with people in the world, and they're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool. So it was really nice to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be and a group of people who were interested.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you share your nuggets and their eyes lied up

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh my god, really, well, guess here

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I found.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was awesome to have that around because people

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<v Speaker 2>and on type of that. We have, you know, our

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<v Speaker 2>dig shirts on and and and dig he's got his

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<v Speaker 2>dig a hat on, and we go in there and

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<v Speaker 2>people oh, oh what's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, notail about when we first walked in. When

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<v Speaker 1>we first walked in with Kenny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we walk in and and and Kenny a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that had joined our group, and apparently what he'd said, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You rock Kenny C.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the rock with Kenny C. Yeah, the rock

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<v Speaker 2>with so he says, uh, he says, walks over and

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<v Speaker 2>says to us.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, hey, uh, well, first May we walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and I leaned over to you and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy over there, he looks just like this guy

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<v Speaker 1>that signed up on our community page. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the rock or can he see the Rockers?

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, I said, God, he looks just like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, but I'm not sure, right, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go over there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean what would be the odds?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Well, yeah, because he just joined a few days prior.

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<v Speaker 2>He walks over to Justin here and goes, hey, are

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<v Speaker 2>you are you guys like fans of the dig? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you get your dig you're hunt. Justin's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're the we're the ones that record it. It's like, whoa, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's awesome. And it was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, like somebody knew who right.

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<v Speaker 2>But he he was just super, super nice guy right away.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next day when you walked in, you

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<v Speaker 2>had that other one on that kissing cousins don't make

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<v Speaker 2>thirty footers and on the back of his and Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>you had to come and get a picture of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind him, He's like, man, I saw that. I start

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<v Speaker 2>busting up right away.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't care how much it costs. I won't one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that was pretty funny. Yeah, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the whole weekend though, I mean we sat. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody you walked up to would look at your shirt

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<v Speaker 2>or would look at one of the and his cards

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<v Speaker 2>are stickers that just already shoved into their hand.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh yeah, I'm a pitbull on crack.

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<v Speaker 2>But they said, you know, and they come up and say, man,

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<v Speaker 2>what you know? What are you guys into? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about? All this kind of stuff? All that

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<v Speaker 2>be awesome? And honestly, just since that, I've seen so

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<v Speaker 2>many familiar names of the people that we talked to,

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<v Speaker 2>of the people that were there, that the speakers.

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<v Speaker 1>We got forty or fifty new members on our Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>page just from them that conference alone. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So and man, some of the people that like David

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<v Speaker 2>Paxton was awesome. Love that guy. He's funny as could be,

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<v Speaker 2>but as passionate as can be about about the Word

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<v Speaker 2>of God and everything that he brought to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was crazy about that was, uh it was

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<v Speaker 1>they had a lunch in and Steven and Liz had

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<v Speaker 1>got tickets and then Le's uh decided to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with Becca and go walk around there, and Liz is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just you go with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, cool, I had to have

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<v Speaker 2>my date. Definitely took a turn sideways when I had

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<v Speaker 2>to take this ugly guy with me instead of her.

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<v Speaker 1>I hurt. But anyway, we walk in. They got all

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<v Speaker 1>these tables set up right, and they told us that

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<v Speaker 1>a speaker would be at every table, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't know, you know, who was going where. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just we got in there kind of late. But

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<v Speaker 1>by the time we sit down, there's only two chairs left, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we sit down at this table and there's this

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<v Speaker 1>guy at the end of the table. He's sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>on his computer and stuff. And I'd seen him, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't he hadn't spoke yet or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I didn't know if he was part of

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<v Speaker 1>the recording crew or what. Honestly, just some guy on

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we sit down and all the speakers come

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<v Speaker 1>out and sit down at the tables and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I look over and Derek and Sharon is at

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<v Speaker 1>I love Derek and I was like, ah, man, that stinks.

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<v Speaker 1>And we was just sitting there, you know, and Steven

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<v Speaker 1>ended up striking up a conversation with this older lady

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and he gave her a business card and sticker.

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, this guy at the end of the table,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still just messing on his computer. And then finally

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<v Speaker 1>he looks up and he's like, hey, guys, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know, I'm David Paxton kind of talks

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<v Speaker 1>to us, and we just stricked up this conversation and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a god thing. I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually called them bill packs in the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He isn't he dead?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, but he had some good movies, my Tombstone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>But it worked out great, man. We had a really

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<v Speaker 1>great conversation and we exchanged emails and contact information and

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<v Speaker 1>told him about the show, and he told us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about a book that he had coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>and just great conversation about some of the conversations and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I missed some of it because I smoke. So

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<v Speaker 1>after I ate, I went outside to smoke, and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually got to hang out with Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it was it Mike, Mike, Mike, Yeah, Mike, Ye

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<v Speaker 2>forgive me Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>But went outside he smoked, so that me and himshack

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<v Speaker 1>up a conversation while Stephen and David got to know

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<v Speaker 1>That at first. I had no idea, but we started.

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<v Speaker 1>And even the law, even the law. Yes, I was

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<v Speaker 2>Would have been great. But it's but he just showed

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<v Speaker 2>through the legalistic view why we have certain contracts in

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<v Speaker 2>because the devil kind of has, you know, counterclaimed us

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<v Speaker 2>And he was talking about and I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>be like God's right right and we're not and we're

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<v Speaker 2>is we know the difference between right and wrong, but

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<v Speaker 2>we we were not like God. So we entered in

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<v Speaker 2>False pretense, on the on the on that contract. So

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<v Speaker 2>really that contract is null and void. But we always

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<v Speaker 1>So he said the contracts too. I like how he

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<v Speaker 1>said has to be Locke cons Oh, he said, a

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it can't be an angel in a human.

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<v Speaker 1>as Jesus Christ to make the new contract contract. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>This dude's this dude is good.

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<v Speaker 1>It really will shift your paradigm.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really good. I really liked listening to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He was really on point and and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>he like Justin said it, it totally makes you think

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<v Speaker 2>of things in a different light. And but it it

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<v Speaker 2>all makes sense, It all makes sense. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>was that was That was a really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm really excited to have David on. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he would come on and talk to us more in

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<v Speaker 1>depth about about his book and stuff. So, oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>great and we can and he's funny. He's a funny guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a New Yorker.

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<v Speaker 2>His website was the Hidden Day dot com, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can learn a little more about David Paxton and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>his book will be coming out and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>exactly when he said it was. November was originally the

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<v Speaker 2>release date, but he says he just keeps having things

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<v Speaker 2>pop up, so hopefully soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can pre order.

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<v Speaker 2>You can pre order that support the Hidden Day dot

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<v Speaker 2>com and just in the comments put that it's for

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<v Speaker 2>the book. I think the book he said was twenty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>But that'll help him get things rolling and get things

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<v Speaker 2>done a little sooner. And I haven't done it yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but I plan on doing it this week. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just a little shout out for him, because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>that information, that stuff is, it's it is truly paradigm

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<v Speaker 2>altering when you really look at it and look at

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<v Speaker 2>it from that point of view. I think that's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to support those people that are in our

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<v Speaker 2>in our space, that are really doing something to change

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and then of course, you know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>can he kind of come up to us and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us, and you know, and then of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we made a bee line straight to Derek and Sharan's table,

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<v Speaker 1>and I brought my copy of my favorite book, He

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<v Speaker 1>Is the Last Class the Titans, had him sign it

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and then I also brought Giants, Gods and

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<v Speaker 1>Dragons because him and his wife co authored that one,

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<v Speaker 1>had both of them signed that one. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was really cool man. It's uh if anybody could have oh,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but I selling it and holding it forever forever.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, he was so cool. I mean, honestly, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like meeting up with an old friend. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we walked up and somebody was talking to him when

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<v Speaker 1>we first walked up, and they had through the black

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<v Speaker 1>David Dunn's or sorry, Tom Dunn's table over there, which

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<v Speaker 1>Tom wasn't over there, but some of his you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just looking around the shirts and stickers and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and Derek looked over and saw us. He grinned from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a I see, and and after that

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<v Speaker 1>guy left, he was like, hey, Justin, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Just walked over. We got to talk and we talked forever,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally, you know, we started seeing some people's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pile up behind us, and Stephen had to yake

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<v Speaker 1>me back to reality. Come on, let go, Justin.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're old friends, but no, it's it was

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<v Speaker 2>really cool. It's just I think those conferences, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about some of these people that we really

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<v Speaker 2>look up, you know, and we've talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 2>We've had we have some original ideas, we have some

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<v Speaker 2>different viewpoints and things that we all bring to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, you know, it's important to understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't read Hebrew. I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>read Greek, and and and I mean he'll Derek, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you he can't either. And he stands on people

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<v Speaker 2>like Michael Heiser. But we stand on the shoulders of

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<v Speaker 2>these people. And all we're doing is trying to spread

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<v Speaker 2>the next level. If we can take our research and

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<v Speaker 2>things that we do and add it to what's already

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<v Speaker 2>there that you know, we can just help further that

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<v Speaker 2>for for everybody, and I think it's important that we

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<v Speaker 2>always it's just so cool to see those people that

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<v Speaker 2>you're sitting there, like I've referenced that guy fifty times,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's really cool, and you know, it gives it's surreal.

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<v Speaker 3>You talk about them like on the podcast and we

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<v Speaker 3>interviewed him, then you got to meet them face to face.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, man, I just you know, over the internet,

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<v Speaker 3>talked to you and he was wherever he was, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember where, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in Missouri. I think, right, isn't it Missouri? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just yeah, yeah, I mean it's just wild, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got to talk to all the speakers, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, David Heavener was there, you know, David David

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<v Speaker 1>Heavener TV. You know Tom Dunn from Through the Black,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek and Charon Gilbert, uh, doctor Mike Spaulding. Uh. He spoke,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was virtual, uh because Joey Anderson, she was

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<v Speaker 1>also with Through the Black, she's the co host, Tracy Tennant.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, yes, and then David Paxt and those were all

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<v Speaker 1>the speakers. But yeah, there was two virtuals so we

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<v Speaker 1>got to meet everybody, but those two. We talked briefly

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<v Speaker 1>to Tom. Tom was really busy when we first got there.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sitting at a table with his computer and

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<v Speaker 1>had all kinds of people around him. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>assume it was like parts of his crew, and they

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<v Speaker 2>That and the rest of the time he was there,

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty intense. And that guy Tom, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what can you say about time Tom. If you look at.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom, it looks like a heavy metal rocket does.

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<v Speaker 2>One and ten percent Wow, And he gets up there

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy's on fire. I mean, the guy is

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<v Speaker 2>full on fire. And it's funny. And some of the

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<v Speaker 2>of these deliverance type things or truly exercise different things

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<v Speaker 2>that he said that as soon as you know how

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, that God puts people in your path

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to help. And he goes, do I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be there when someone's demon possessed? He's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather not. But because I know how to help,

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<v Speaker 2>God puts you puts them in your path. And I

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<v Speaker 2>that we learn and the more that we pull from

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<v Speaker 2>As we go along. God's going to put people there

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<v Speaker 2>looking for that so when God presents us an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>have have like five pages of notes from just watching

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<v Speaker 2>time done. But like from that that right there was

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<v Speaker 3>To do most of the time of day what you

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<v Speaker 1>And I love how he talked about you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>Like they said, Jesus was casting out demons. He you know,

425
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<v Speaker 1>give the authority and power to ut. Yeah, and they

426
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<v Speaker 1>were doing it. He said. You know, we are called

427
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<v Speaker 1>to do this, he said, but nowadays, you know, the

428
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<v Speaker 1>church just washes their hands of it and they've lost

429
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<v Speaker 1>their supernatural worldview. He said, No, we're supposed to be

430
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<v Speaker 1>doing this. This is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's exactly what Jesus told them. Yeah, now

432
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<v Speaker 3>it's your turn, you know. And and like you said,

433
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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's just one person, and go out and

434
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<v Speaker 3>spread it to everybody.

435
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<v Speaker 1>But it was very informative because me, I mean, that's

436
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<v Speaker 1>kind of ignorant of it. You know, I just thought,

437
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<v Speaker 1>you know, old demon possession is you know, like the

438
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<v Speaker 1>extorcism Emily Rose, when they're you know, crying all the whiles,

439
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<v Speaker 1>talking in strange tongues and you know, all this crazy

440
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<v Speaker 1>horror film type stuff. But there's so much more to it. Yes,

441
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<v Speaker 1>he was talking, you know, and I'm just kind of

442
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<v Speaker 1>going off the top of the dome here, but he

443
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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, he said a lot of He

444
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<v Speaker 1>said A question I always get is can I born

445
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<v Speaker 1>again Christian be possessed? And he says no, he said,

446
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<v Speaker 1>because you're possessed by the Holy Spirit, so therefore nothing

447
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<v Speaker 1>evil can preside. You know, we're holdingess as he says.

448
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<v Speaker 1>But you can be opressed. You can have strongholds, strongholds,

449
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<v Speaker 1>you can be piggybacked, you can have items attachments. Yeah,

450
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<v Speaker 1>like items that are possessed in your possession. And these

451
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<v Speaker 1>things they might not you know, possess you, but they

452
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<v Speaker 1>can torment and attack you.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're going to be attacked. I mean, the whole

454
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<v Speaker 2>point of this is you're going to be attacked. And

455
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<v Speaker 2>the more in the closer we get, Satan's not worried

456
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<v Speaker 2>about the people who are are already that are already

457
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<v Speaker 2>walking his direction. He's worried about the people that are

458
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<v Speaker 2>getting closer to God. He doesn't want you to help

459
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<v Speaker 2>anybody else be saved. So we're the ones and those

460
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<v Speaker 2>people and Christians in general. And then the people, as

461
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<v Speaker 2>they get more and more on fire, are going to

462
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<v Speaker 2>be attacked all the time.

463
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<v Speaker 1>I can attest firsthand been spiritually attacked since starting this podcast,

464
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<v Speaker 1>personal relationships with friends, you know, of my home life,

465
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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

466
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<v Speaker 2>It's what we all are getting attacked. And Satan knows

467
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<v Speaker 2>are weaknesses. And that's one of the other things. I

468
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<v Speaker 2>think he's one of the ones that said that that

469
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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, I'm not sure if it was

470
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<v Speaker 2>him or if it was Vicky Tenant. We'll talk about

471
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<v Speaker 2>hearing the bars englisher, No, the one where you said,

472
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<v Speaker 2>you know, you think you think you're smart, you think

473
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<v Speaker 2>you see things coming. But Scene's been around for thousands

474
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<v Speaker 2>of years. He's had some practice. They're they're way smarter

475
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<v Speaker 2>than us.

476
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure.

477
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<v Speaker 2>You know, demons, Satan, fallen angels, all that, that whole realm.

478
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<v Speaker 2>They're smarter than us. So we have to hold true

479
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<v Speaker 2>to God for us to be able to to be

480
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<v Speaker 2>able to overcome those things. You can't overcome those things

481
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<v Speaker 2>on your own. You just can't.

482
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<v Speaker 1>And one thing he talked about too that I'd never

483
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<v Speaker 1>really thought of, like in a spiritual warfare type lens.

484
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<v Speaker 1>He talked about how is it worded? It was blood

485
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<v Speaker 1>bloodline curses, you know, of course, you know, you know,

486
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<v Speaker 1>and I always spoke this curse. You know, basically I

487
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<v Speaker 1>was speaking a curse over myself, and my family did too,

488
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<v Speaker 1>you know. You know, my daddy died when I was

489
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<v Speaker 1>eight months old. You know. He was heavy into drugs

490
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<v Speaker 1>and alcohol, you know, and he spoke a curse over

491
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<v Speaker 1>him himself. I mean, I remember my mom telling me

492
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<v Speaker 1>all the time. He used to always, you know, just

493
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<v Speaker 1>just drink like a fish and do all these drugs

494
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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and everybody tell him, you know, hey, you

495
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<v Speaker 1>very slow down, you very slow down. And he'd always

496
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<v Speaker 1>tell him I ain't going to live past thirty anyway,

497
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<v Speaker 1>and he kept saying that he didn't. He spoke it

498
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<v Speaker 1>over himself.

499
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<v Speaker 2>You know.

500
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<v Speaker 1>It says, yeah, life and death is in the power

501
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<v Speaker 1>of the tongue, right, you know, And so like growing up,

502
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<v Speaker 1>you know, like anytime i'd get in trouble or you know,

503
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<v Speaker 1>do something bad, you know, my grandfather or me, we'd

504
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<v Speaker 1>always kind of joke and you know, like, why, well,

505
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<v Speaker 1>he's from bad seed. You know. It's kind of like

506
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<v Speaker 1>a generational curse type thing. He was talking about that

507
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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly what I was talking about it, Yeah,

508
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<v Speaker 1>and he said so. And the thing is too, is

509
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<v Speaker 1>you don't know your great great grandfather might have been,

510
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<v Speaker 1>you know, a freemason practicing these you know, demonic stuff

511
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<v Speaker 1>or Jack the Ripper, you know, or you know, my

512
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, your great great great aunt might have been

513
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<v Speaker 1>a witch. That stuff follows you. And and he went

514
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<v Speaker 1>through the Bible talking about it. You know how uh

515
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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's in scripture. It says that it follows

516
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<v Speaker 1>to like the fourth generation, the sins of the father

517
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:17.279
<v Speaker 1>wash over the child, and also the blessings do Also

518
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<v Speaker 1>because he mentioned Solomon, you know, he said, David was

519
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<v Speaker 1>you know, a righteous man after God's own heart, you know,

520
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Solomon turned wicked, built all these temples to these other

521
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<v Speaker 1>gods and stuff. And and it even said through a prophet,

522
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<v Speaker 1>God told, you know, Solomon, through a prophet, you know that, yeah,

523
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<v Speaker 1>you're wicked. That basically, you know, I should destroy you

524
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<v Speaker 1>and wipe you out, but for the sake of your father,

525
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<v Speaker 1>I'll spare you.

526
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And that I mean, that's that says a lot

527
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<v Speaker 2>about how we should behave for our kids and how

528
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<v Speaker 2>we should act for our kids. I fall under genetics

529
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<v Speaker 2>even well, think about this, and this is something that

530
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<v Speaker 2>we talked about a bunch of times, and and I've

531
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<v Speaker 2>we've done maybe not so much on this, but you know,

532
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<v Speaker 2>you hear a lot of people talking about power in

533
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<v Speaker 2>the name and power in the name, and I have

534
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>to refute that so much because the power doesn't come

535
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<v Speaker 2>from that. Power comes from the blood, right, the blood

536
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>of Jesus is what saved us. When we talk about

537
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<v Speaker 2>these generational curses and things like that. What did the

538
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<v Speaker 2>fallen angels tried to destroy in Genesis six? They tried

539
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>to corrupt the bloodline. What they did, they created abominations.

540
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<v Speaker 2>It's always been about the blood. So when you think

541
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<v Speaker 2>about those things, the blood of your forefathers runs through

542
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>your veins.

543
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<v Speaker 1>It just does that whole power in the name thing,

544
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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's I hate to compare

545
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<v Speaker 1>to this, but it's the only thing that I can.

546
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like witchcraft, because it's like in witchcraft,

547
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.519
<v Speaker 1>you have to say a certain incantent nation, you have

548
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to say the spell just right, pronunciate the words, just write,

549
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>or it won't work. So it's like, you know, everybody

550
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Speaker 1>keeps you know, not everybody, but some people I see,

551
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, online and stuff talking about you know, the

552
00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 1>power in the name. Oh, there's only one name that's

553
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>above names, you know, and all this stuff, and it's

554
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:07.279
<v Speaker 1>like you're putting the creator of the universe in a

555
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>very small, little genie lamp.

556
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

557
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<v Speaker 1>And if I don't say it just right, he can't

558
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.160
<v Speaker 1>hear me or something. Yeah, you know what I mean.

559
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>If you go back to even the ancient Israelite you know, culture,

560
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>the whole reason. Why was it Jacob that wrestled with

561
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<v Speaker 1>God and then he asked him his name? You know,

562
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like back then, if you had

563
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the name of the deity, it's like you had power

564
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 1>control over it, you know. And those people they like

565
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to throw up all these verses, you know, the name,

566
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<v Speaker 1>the name, the name. And in Revelation it says I

567
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>can't remember the chapter and verse, but it plainly says that,

568
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, in front of the Great Throne, you know,

569
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 1>these people will say, didn't I prophesy in your name?

570
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Didn't I cast out demons in your name? Did I

571
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>not do great works and deeds in your name? And

572
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>then the Father looks at him and says, depart from me,

573
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>workers of iniquity. I never knew you. The name didn't

574
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<v Speaker 1>save them, so therefore there's no power in the name.

575
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how you pronounce it.

576
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<v Speaker 2>So the way another way you could look at it

577
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 2>too is just say, like, I know, we talk about

578
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 2>the lower case g gods or whatever, but that's more

579
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>because they portrayed themselves as God's they were angels. So

580
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 2>when you say God, there is only one God, so

581
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.480
<v Speaker 2>God knows you're talking about God. And also think about

582
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>was it I'm trying to well anyway, when when and

583
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what was it Moses that said when

584
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I say who sent me? Who should I say? And

585
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.359
<v Speaker 2>he said, I am sent you? Just I am me.

586
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's it God? Is it? When you talk

587
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 2>to God, you talk to I am you talk to

588
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>what it God? God knows your heart. He knows who

589
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>you're speaking to, the same way that we talk about

590
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 2>when we're saved and we look in the Book of Life.

591
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<v Speaker 2>God knows that you're saved because you believe in something,

592
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>not because you knew his name, or not because you

593
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>said a little little incantation or said what.

594
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<v Speaker 3>The preacher told you to say, or like Doug at

595
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 3>church was saying, you know, you know some of these

596
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:28.839
<v Speaker 3>Christian songs. You know, Lord please come save me. Well

597
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:31.319
<v Speaker 3>he said the song, and in the song it said

598
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 3>it twenty times. So I got Uncle Bobby saved because

599
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 3>I seen him singing it. That's not how it works.

600
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<v Speaker 1>No heart, That's why I had to write the New

601
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<v Speaker 1>Covenant on their hearts.

602
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, That's right. God knows your heart in the end.

603
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>He will always know your heart. And that's where ultimately

604
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.039
<v Speaker 2>you're saved is because of your belief, not because of

605
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>anything else, right.

606
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<v Speaker 3>Not because you said of you know, like we said

607
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<v Speaker 3>a verse or you know what the preacher told you.

608
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<v Speaker 1>You know, Tom Done, you know his presentation. It was

609
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>really enlightening for me, you know, and give me a

610
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<v Speaker 1>whole new look into that. Like I said, you know,

611
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about all these different you know paths.

612
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say, but that was the first day.

613
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 1>He was the last speaker of the first way, but

614
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<v Speaker 1>then the first one, the first one, really stood out.

615
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<v Speaker 2>So you gotta say Tom Tom Done website if you

616
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<v Speaker 2>want to look into this a little more through the

617
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<v Speaker 2>black dot com and and it's what did what did

618
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<v Speaker 2>he say? And I love the way he said it

619
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<v Speaker 2>it is a safe way to look at the dark

620
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>side of things, Yes, because you don't you don't want

621
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 2>to expose yourself to those things on your own. But

622
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 2>he said, it's a safe way to look at and

623
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 2>understand what we're fighting against. Know your enemy, know your enemy.

624
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<v Speaker 2>And he also said remember this too. It is another

625
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<v Speaker 2>one of the quotes he had that I loved was

626
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<v Speaker 2>remember that sin opens the door for that, but prayer

627
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 2>closes that door. So every time you know, we sin,

628
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>or we we do something we transgress, however you want

629
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<v Speaker 2>to say it, a window or a door is open

630
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 2>into our our our heart, our mind, and then that

631
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.079
<v Speaker 2>gives Satan or or one of these other demons a

632
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<v Speaker 2>foothold to get in there. So it's prayer is so

633
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<v Speaker 2>important because that's how we close that that's how we

634
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<v Speaker 2>keep our temple as pure as possible, as righteous as possible.

635
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>And that's so important.

636
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 3>And that is that is perfectly true because I found

637
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 3>it in my own life, you know, doing certain things,

638
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>looking at certain things. But if I start reading the

639
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Bible more and being more.

640
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Focused on how you're acting, behaving your living, a.

641
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:46.119
<v Speaker 3>God almost vanit them thoughts or you know, temptations almost

642
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.200
<v Speaker 3>go away and let until you go, well I've been

643
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 3>good or whatever, and sun you right back at where

644
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 3>you started when you let it, let.

645
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>It back in. So but I spoke. I spoke to

646
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Tom briefly once or twice. And I also, I don't

647
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.279
<v Speaker 1>know if I even told you, but I went back

648
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.079
<v Speaker 1>to the table when I bought that shirt. I got

649
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a shirt. It's pretty cool, said anti woke, and I

650
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>had the Romans quote, you know, being out of this world.

651
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 1>But I spoke to the woman about, you know, if

652
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Speaker 1>he'd done you know, uh, guest appearances and stuff like that,

653
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and she give me a business card with the email

654
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So I'll be reaching out to Tom pretty soon.

655
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we can have him on the show and tell

656
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 1>us about some of his experiences and the stories.

657
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yeah, yeah.

658
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 1>He looked like he was like a bass player for

659
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>five Finger Death Punch. It was awesome.

660
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 2>He is a good dude. He had and he had.

661
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<v Speaker 2>I liked his insights on a lot of this stuff

662
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>because it's it's once again, we don't view sin in

663
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>that way we've view sent Oh we did something wrong.

664
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 2>We we don't look at it as given a foothold

665
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>to the devil given a foothold to letting other bad

666
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>things in, other other evil thoughts, either evil things like

667
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 2>this where we have to close that door. And that

668
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>just made a lot of sense to me.

669
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 1>And that God's Oh, I was just gonna go because

670
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to miss the her skip over. The

671
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>first speaker of that day was a Tracy Tenant and

672
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you can find her stuff at Tracy Tenant dot com.

673
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.159
<v Speaker 2>And what else she at. She's at the Freedom Fighters

674
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>HQ dot org.

675
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, was the organization that she works for. And she

676
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>was a former Mormon, right, yeah, yeah, she escaped Mormonism

677
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and her ten kids with her ten kids yeah or

678
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>was it eight or ten? Yeah, it was ten. And

679
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 1>she was really cool and she was talking about kind

680
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of like on a almost like on a psychological level,

681
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and was talking about how you don't even realize but

682
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like traumatic events that happened in your life you suppress

683
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 1>them and how they come back later and those two

684
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 1>are also strongholds for you know, demons and the devil

685
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.639
<v Speaker 1>to torment you with. And she was very open and vulnerable.

686
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 1>I really applaud her for telling the story that she's

687
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 1>told what she was talking about, for instance, you know,

688
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 1>she said, we got all these kids, you know, she said,

689
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>we had a big go mini van. She said. When

690
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 1>we go everywhere, you know, it was like the you know,

691
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 1>the Brady bunch. You got them in there roll call.

692
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Everybody had this, you know, she call out the names

693
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and the kids here present, you know, to make sure anytime.

694
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 3>They left anywhere, forget somebody.

695
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And she said one day they went to toys

696
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 1>r Us and said, of course, you know, ten kids

697
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>running around towards are us, you know. Yeah, so she

698
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>said she went and told them all, you know, it's

699
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 1>time to go, and her husband pulled the van around.

700
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>She said, now all piled in, you know, she said.

701
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Once we got in there, she said, we did the

702
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.599
<v Speaker 1>roll call, started calling everybody's name. She said, after each

703
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>you know name, we heard here, here, here, she said,

704
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:58.320
<v Speaker 1>So we had ten hears, she said, So we took

705
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 1>off down the road. She said, about a half hour drive.

706
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>We made it to our next destination.

707
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 2>The BYU campus. Because they had like a little.

708
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Sounds like a home alone story, it is like that.

709
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.239
<v Speaker 2>But they were going to some place there for like

710
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 2>some activity center or something that she said.

711
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>And she said and they got out of the car,

712
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and as they's getting out, she was doing the headcout again.

713
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 1>And she got through there and there was nine, she said,

714
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know. Maybe one was laying down the

715
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 1>seat or the floorboard. You never know, she said. So

716
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I was looking in there, she said, and I can't

717
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 1>remember the young boy's name, she said, but such and

718
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>such was missing. She said. I was like, oh my god,

719
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe I miscounted. She turned around, counted again. There was nine.

720
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>She said, oh my god, he's missing. And she's like,

721
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>but he said here, he said here, and then one

722
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>of the little brothers said, oh, I said here for him.

723
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, immediately you know it probably was home alone.

724
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

725
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:56.960
<v Speaker 3>How about some butt woopans?

726
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>So she said. They turned around and hauled back, you know,

727
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.159
<v Speaker 1>down the road. Man was half an hour, so it

728
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>was our total. And they get there and she said

729
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it was the most pitiful thing ever. She said. That

730
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 1>kid was like five six years old, she said. And

731
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I pulled up, she said, and there he is, she said,

732
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>just sitting outside the building, leaning against the the while.

733
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:21.519
<v Speaker 1>She said, just scared to death. And she said, she said,

734
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I pulled up. She said, he saw us and he

735
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>just come running tears of joy, and.

736
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 3>That could have went bad, like he could have wandered, went.

737
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Looking for kidna after anything. But she said, you know,

738
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 1>after it's over with, you know, years down the road,

739
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 1>that we'd tell that story and laugh. And it was

740
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 1>a big joke, she said. And some things happened with

741
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>her her son, and he ended up happening to go

742
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to therapy and I think she said through like hypnosis

743
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>or something, she said, but he ended up coming out

744
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>in therapy that that was a major fear of his

745
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>was of being alone, being forgotten and left alone.

746
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 2>That would but there was to that point though, what

747
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 2>he say is that we have there's there's things that

748
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.519
<v Speaker 2>people have that that you know, they could have had

749
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 2>a traumatic experience in their life, and it could have

750
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 2>been something way worse than getting left at the grocery store.

751
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 2>So it could have been some kind of abuse, could

752
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 2>have been some kind of you know, all sorts of

753
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>awful things that happened to either kids or even young adults,

754
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 2>things that happened that they suppress. And she says that

755
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>you get like the dissociative and amnesia that occurs with

756
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:29.079
<v Speaker 2>that trauma, where where you literally you're it's like a

757
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 2>defense mechanism where you block out that that actually happened.

758
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>But the problem is it's still there, and that still

759
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 2>is it torments you, whether or not you remember that,

760
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 2>that's exactly what happens. So when she went in and

761
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 2>she did a whole exercise that she does with people

762
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 2>with us, and it was it was really interesting and.

763
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna lie, you know. At first, I was like, man,

764
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.519
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of out there, but I was, you know,

765
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 1>but something in me just was like, you know, what

766
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>if what you know, what if that's a demon you know,

767
00:38:57.599 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>or something, you know, trying to put the spirit of

768
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>doubt in you. I was like, yeah, I want to

769
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.840
<v Speaker 1>do this with an open mind. And it was kind

770
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:10.840
<v Speaker 1>of like you know, yoga, meditation, esc but it was

771
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>all in the name of Jesus, and it was pretty cool.

772
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Me and Steven both had some some little visions and feelings.

773
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was it was unique.

774
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>It was weird, and I got to tell him about it.

775
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, what she went through. She called it a conception exercise.

776
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>So but she starts and she said some of these

777
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>things and I this, this kind of blew me away,

778
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 2>and I have to do more research into this because

779
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>it's something.

780
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>And that was the purpose of it was to find that.

781
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Find whatever traumatic event you had in your life.

782
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if i'd want to do that.

783
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.679
<v Speaker 1>It well, you find it to heal it, you know.

784
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.960
<v Speaker 3>But the way that she said a lot of stuff

785
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 3>in the military, I don't remember.

786
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Someone she said that the one the one she had

787
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:53.800
<v Speaker 2>a U And this is no joke. She said she

788
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 2>had a a guy that was coming to her that

789
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.119
<v Speaker 2>wanted that thought he thought he wanted to be He

790
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 2>thought he wanted to be a female. Oh okay, he

791
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>thought he wanted to be a female. And he just

792
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 2>kept saying that. I just I really want to be

793
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 2>a girl. I've had that my whole life. All these

794
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>different things, and she went through this conception exercise and

795
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 2>it's really interesting because she goes through it not only

796
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>and this is like I said, this to me is

797
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.719
<v Speaker 2>something that I take it or leave it. You have

798
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to literally it is. It is a very unique exercise.

799
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I have to look into this more and research this more.

800
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.440
<v Speaker 2>But she started literally while you're in the womb, she

801
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.119
<v Speaker 2>talked about the first month, second month, third month.

802
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>And it was pretty cool because she said, you know, first,

803
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.280
<v Speaker 1>she prayed, you know, in the name of Jesus, you know,

804
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to have Jesus reveal these things to you, you know.

805
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 1>And she told you, you know, to close your eyes, she said,

806
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and imagine Jesus standing in front of you with your

807
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>with these poems open, you know, like welcoming you. And

808
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>she said, and you know, if you can't see it,

809
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.320
<v Speaker 1>she said, just you know, imagine, you know, and it's

810
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:06.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a you know, meditation type exercise. And honestly, man,

811
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it was weird for me. I closed my eyes and

812
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:12.679
<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to, you know, conceptualize it in

813
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 1>my mind. And it was like I seen a lot

814
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 1>of almost like a cross, but it was, you know,

815
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.639
<v Speaker 1>a body with its hands out. And the only way

816
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I can describe it is like, you know, if you

817
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.559
<v Speaker 1>start a light for a long time and then you

818
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>close your eyes, you can still kind of see it

819
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 1>when you close your eyes. That's what it kind of

820
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 1>looked like. And I was like, WHOA. And I was

821
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>sitting there looking at it, and honestly, I told Rebecca

822
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and Stephen both I said, you know, like when you

823
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 1>see people go under hypnosis or maybe even a seizure

824
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>or something like that how the eyes like flutter or

825
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>like when their eyes are closed, how you can see

826
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 1>them kind of rapidly moving so ide decided or moving

827
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>in there. That's kind of like what it was when

828
00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I had my eyes closed, and when I saw that,

829
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like my eyelids kept twitching up and down, up

830
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 1>and down, like it was just like a picture take,

831
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a camera taking a million pictures that

832
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>want to very weird. And but then she went through

833
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.519
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, you know, I bless you in

834
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>your first month, the conception, you know, you've you're you know.

835
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>She goes through your development the whole time. But when

836
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 2>she got to the she said she was talking to

837
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>that guy and got to his third month, and he goes, wow,

838
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and he broke down and said that he can hear

839
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>his parents or no, it was all the ladies at

840
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>her that because she was a pastor's wife and she

841
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 2>had had five boys or something, and she really wanted

842
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:44.239
<v Speaker 2>a girl. So the he said he could hear all

843
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 2>of the all of them know that all the women

844
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 2>were praying around here, praying for a girl. And he

845
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.360
<v Speaker 2>heard that is what he's saying that his third month

846
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:57.039
<v Speaker 2>heard that, and it went back and later confirmed that

847
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 2>that was true with his parents. So something that happened

848
00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 2>to the third month of conception and the third month

849
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 2>of conception was able to to be able to go

850
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 2>back to that point in time and say that this

851
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 2>is when that moment happened, that even at that point

852
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 2>in conception, the confusion started and whether or not you

853
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>were he wanted to be a boy or a girl,

854
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 2>a girl to please his parents, right.

855
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 3>And I do I it was like imprinted on them.

856
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>It was imprinted on because.

857
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>It said the third month that your ears are developed

858
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and you can actually hear because it talks about you know,

859
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.679
<v Speaker 1>parents listening to soothing music and all these things. And

860
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the babies react, yeah, because they can hear, and and

861
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.599
<v Speaker 1>you can say, y'all they made it up or whatever,

862
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, how did he know that? You know?

863
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 3>How did he know that? Then went and talked to.

864
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 1>His mom and they confirmed it because she only had

865
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>boys at that time, so they really wanted a girl

866
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.199
<v Speaker 1>and they were the congregation was praying over her that

867
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>she would get the girl.

868
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Man, that's wild.

869
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know when I went through the whole thing,

870
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 2>like I said, take it or leave it. If if

871
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 2>it's it's interesting, exercise it it does it work? I

872
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>don't that's I mean, that's pretty. I mean it's pretty

873
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 2>interesting evidence that that that guy was able to confirm

874
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 2>with his parents that they had actually that's what he

875
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 2>found that out with his mom right, that they actually

876
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 2>had in her third month, had prayed for him to

877
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>be a girl, and he found that prior to her

878
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 2>telling him through this exercise. I don't know. I mean,

879
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.519
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty, that's pretty, it's interesting. I don't, like I said,

880
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I have a it's things beyond my well, did you see?

881
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>So?

882
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>It was weird, I'll be honest when I first started hearing,

883
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 2>because she's praying for for Jesus to be with you

884
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:51.039
<v Speaker 2>and to clear everything else, to uh kind of let

885
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 2>him see those bonds or let you see those bonds

886
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 2>on you and those things that potentially could be those

887
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>moments of trauma or whatnot. When my eyes were closed,

888
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it was weird because when she started praying those things,

889
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.119
<v Speaker 2>I kept seeing black shadows come over my eyes and

890
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>once again, could a cloud have passed over, Probably not

891
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.880
<v Speaker 2>that fast, but it would go over and would go

892
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>back and forth over my eyes like a black shadow.

893
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden it turned to a

894
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.239
<v Speaker 2>try And it's, like I said, I struggle with this.

895
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't it's things beyond my comprehension if this is

896
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:34.079
<v Speaker 2>really really truly happening. But I saw like a triangle

897
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that was it was pulsing blue, and it was it

898
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:41.679
<v Speaker 2>would slowly get and I could watch it pulse, and

899
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 2>it would slowly get brighter, and slowly get brighter, and

900
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.480
<v Speaker 2>slowly get brighter, and all of a sudden, at the

901
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>very end, it just went. It's like it exploded, and

902
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>it was all just as bright white as I couldn't

903
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 2>even barely look at it was so bright white. And

904
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.119
<v Speaker 2>that's about when we opened our eyes at the end

905
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.800
<v Speaker 2>of everything. But I don't know what that means. I

906
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>asked her about the colors and things like that, and

907
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 2>she didn't really know what exactly what to tell me.

908
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 2>But but I mean a lot of times, but a

909
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 2>lot of I mean maybe, but a lot of times.

910
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I know colors can be associated with certain things and

911
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.400
<v Speaker 2>different things, But I really don't know. But I think

912
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that it was a very interesting exercise of anything. It

913
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 2>made you kind of focus on maybe different aspects of

914
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.480
<v Speaker 2>your life and and really think you know, where is

915
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the trauma? Where where are those demons that are attacking you?

916
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Where are you letting them have that stronghold? Where is

917
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:39.639
<v Speaker 2>that connection? Because we all have something, we all have

918
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 2>scars and and God has forgiven those, but Satan, let's

919
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>us keeps reminding us of them, right?

920
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:50.239
<v Speaker 1>And mine was pretty pretty weird also, Like I told you, you know,

921
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:55.519
<v Speaker 1>the whole eye floaters thing and stuff, but I didn't

922
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:59.760
<v Speaker 1>really feel anything at all until I can't remember if

923
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:03.679
<v Speaker 1>it was a third or fourth month, but she would,

924
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, say, you know, I bless you on this month,

925
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, and all this stuff, and then she'd have

926
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.599
<v Speaker 1>like a pause, you know, and then after like a

927
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.679
<v Speaker 1>minute or so, then she'd you know, give you know,

928
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.599
<v Speaker 1>she'd tell you, like, you know, this month, your your

929
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.639
<v Speaker 1>ears are fully developed, this that or the other. And

930
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 1>I remember whatever month that was, it was third, fourth

931
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 1>month or whatever, I was blank, but like out of nowhere,

932
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I got like this sensation of just joy and happiness

933
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 1>and excitement, and I mean I could even feel my

934
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>heart rate increasing, and I was like, you know, this

935
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 1>is strange. You know, Did I have a heart attack

936
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:49.760
<v Speaker 1>in the womb, you know, or something like that? Or

937
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and and then she said this and this month, your

938
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 1>your sex organs have developed, and now through ultrasound they

939
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>can tell what sex you are and all this stuff.

940
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 1>And then it hit me because you know, my dad,

941
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>he died when I was eight months old, and I

942
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 1>got two older sisters, and all my mom always told

943
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>me all he ever wanted was a boy, and he

944
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:22.159
<v Speaker 1>said he wasn't going to stop, you know, pro creating

945
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.880
<v Speaker 1>until he got one. But like I told you, you know,

946
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>he was he was wild. He was a construction worker

947
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 1>and partied all the time. And Mom said that he'd

948
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 1>be out of town working when he'd come home Friday

949
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 1>with his paycheck, he wouldn't even come home. He'd go

950
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>out bar hopping and partying with all his friends and

951
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 1>he'd come home Sunday night hung over and hard up,

952
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>no money left. Right. And once, uh, she got pregnant

953
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and they found out it was a boy, Mom said

954
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>he was just so excited and he was like, you know,

955
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I want to straighten up. You know, I want to

956
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>see this boy live. And this is what I've always

957
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 1>prayed for and wanted. I'm going to straighten up. And

958
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>so it's like almost like I felt his excitement, but inevitably,

959
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's hard for a tiger to change

960
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:11.320
<v Speaker 1>its stripes. You know, he went right back to it

961
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 1>and he died. But I didn't realize this tool like

962
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:17.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe after we done got home, when I got to

963
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, and maybe my scar was was resentment

964
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 1>and like anger toward my old man and almost like

965
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:36.119
<v Speaker 1>a like a rejection, like like I wouldn't good enough. Uh,

966
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I always asked myself. I was like, you always wanted

967
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 1>a boy, you finally got it, but you chose your

968
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:53.639
<v Speaker 1>drugs and alcohol over me. And it was I don't know,

969
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just like a like a light bulb moment, like

970
00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.519
<v Speaker 1>it was like now you were enough. Know he was

971
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just he was sick and he had his own demons, right,

972
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of like a almost like a

973
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.360
<v Speaker 1>a reassurance from God, you know, like you know, it

974
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't your fault. It wouldn't that you weren't enough. It

975
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 1>was just it was him. So I mean that that

976
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:20.599
<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool. But I didn't figure that out till

977
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:21.639
<v Speaker 1>after I got home.

978
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Right, it didn't click.

979
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that I mean listen, like I just said

980
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:30.800
<v Speaker 2>anything that that, if anything that that exercise did is

981
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.320
<v Speaker 2>to give you some peace in certain in certain ways,

982
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:38.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, where you find that maybe that scar's there,

983
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe that wound, that trauma is there, and that's something

984
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.119
<v Speaker 2>that we all need to face at some point. We

985
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 2>all have those things.

986
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm just am trauma. I'm just a giant trauma.

987
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>But yes, Tracy was really cool. Talked to her afterward,

988
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.119
<v Speaker 1>gave her a business card and I asked her if

989
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>she'd be want to come on show. She was actually

990
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>really excited. She's like, oh, yes, I'd love to, and

991
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 1>she's already emailed me since we got back, so that'll

992
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>be in the works.

993
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 3>That would be curious to see what popped up in

994
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 3>my head.

995
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>It'll be your turn.

996
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 2>It will be your turn. A little scary, it was,

997
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 2>like I said, it's just one of those things that's

998
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.679
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know. It was. It was unique, it

999
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>was a little bit out there, but it's.

1000
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>But it you know, and think about it, like that's

1001
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.639
<v Speaker 1>just like our once again us laying back on our filters,

1002
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>our preconceived notions. I mean, so think about it. If

1003
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 1>we're willing to accept divine counsel Nephelom giants, but not

1004
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>praying for Jesus for God to show us these things,

1005
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 1>no I hear. I mean, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1006
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:53.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm just for other.

1007
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 3>People at it kind of like, uh, you kind of

1008
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 3>dabbing in a little. But but if you do it

1009
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:02.320
<v Speaker 3>in the proper.

1010
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Way, well, in the name of Jesus. I mean, that's

1011
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.280
<v Speaker 1>what she keeps saying. You know, there's no stones, no

1012
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:07.679
<v Speaker 1>incontent nations.

1013
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:11.519
<v Speaker 2>She's just praying, yeah, and she's praying for you to

1014
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 2>be able to find that scar. And it's interesting, you know,

1015
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you think about it, and it's one of those things

1016
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.280
<v Speaker 2>if you go back like we and it's time done.

1017
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:22.880
<v Speaker 2>What said a lot too was in the if you

1018
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.760
<v Speaker 2>look at acts, you know, and them casting out demons

1019
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:27.639
<v Speaker 2>and you casting out those things, and people look at

1020
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:31.320
<v Speaker 2>that now and it's either a horror movie, you know

1021
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:33.480
<v Speaker 2>if you talk about that, or it's something that is

1022
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:37.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, extremely frowned upon where that doesn't either that

1023
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.760
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really happen, or somebody's just acting.

1024
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Out right there.

1025
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.039
<v Speaker 2>They just can change their voice really well to sound

1026
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>really gargley and sound like they're from the pits of Hell.

1027
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's crazy. Even with Hollywood too, what you

1028
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>still see them being called out in the name of Jesus.

1029
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:03.039
<v Speaker 1>You still see them being affected by a scripture and

1030
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the crials, you know, so I mean even Hollywood, you know,

1031
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 1>in their horror films, whether they like it or not,

1032
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a biblical foundation.

1033
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 2>And all and all in all though, she was extremely interesting.

1034
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I think she has an amazing story to tell, especially

1035
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.519
<v Speaker 2>about escaping Mormonism and then how she got into this

1036
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 2>it's all together.

1037
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 1>It is just a definitely worth digging into.

1038
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes it is, it is is unintended, but it was

1039
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 2>really good. I did. I really did like listen to

1040
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.280
<v Speaker 2>her and she was exceptionally nice to talk to. Just

1041
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 2>it was it was really it was really good.

1042
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.039
<v Speaker 1>And that was the end of the first night. Then

1043
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 1>we went back to that Airbnb that that Li has found. Man,

1044
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>that thing was cool. Tell them about that.

1045
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.920
<v Speaker 2>That was. It was like a like an older townhouse

1046
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:56.199
<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of cool how it's set up.

1047
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:58.559
<v Speaker 1>We were It was like eighteen hundred style, I mean

1048
00:53:58.559 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was really cool.

1049
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 2>By the way, set out with candles and we were

1050
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.320
<v Speaker 2>out there with those hand cranked generators to get some

1051
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:10.960
<v Speaker 2>electricity so we had enough light.

1052
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 1>To read has get back up, run faster.

1053
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 3>It was.

1054
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:18.960
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of cool. It's kind of a just

1055
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.559
<v Speaker 2>it was a little two bedroom thing with a bathroom,

1056
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:23.599
<v Speaker 2>but it was a cool set up the little living

1057
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.039
<v Speaker 2>room where we kind of sat down and talked about

1058
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:28.599
<v Speaker 2>everything for that had happened that day and kind of

1059
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 2>went back and forth with it because you know, both

1060
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:34.519
<v Speaker 2>of our wives are there with us during the conference

1061
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 2>for everything except for the launch that we went to.

1062
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 2>We ended up uh not being able to make a

1063
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 2>couple of things, but as a whole, like I said,

1064
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 2>it was, it was. It was nice to be able

1065
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 2>to go back. Everybody kind of relaxed, you know, get

1066
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.079
<v Speaker 2>your sweatpants on and sit down and just kind of

1067
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:57.880
<v Speaker 2>delve over all the information. I do wear sweatpants, They're comfortable.

1068
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I had my anim one basketball shorts and it was

1069
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 1>too cold, old T shirt.

1070
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:08.000
<v Speaker 3>It was too cold. Too cold man from Michigan.

1071
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Anyway, the next morning we jumped around a little bit,

1072
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.960
<v Speaker 2>because we jumped around just a little bit.

1073
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:22.280
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the next day that was Sandra Allison, Vicky,

1074
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Joey Anderson, and Mike Spaulding.

1075
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Right well, Derek Gilbert was the first one.

1076
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 1>At nine yeah, nine am.

1077
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So we started with Derek. We got there, we

1078
00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 2>walk around again. You can talk to everybody in the morning,

1079
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.519
<v Speaker 2>they all have their stuff out, kind of like in

1080
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.880
<v Speaker 2>the vendor area. You can everybody is super nice. Like

1081
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:42.519
<v Speaker 2>I said, it was just you could sit down and

1082
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 2>talk to anybody, as well as any of the people

1083
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that were there at the conference. They were all just

1084
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:48.719
<v Speaker 2>wanted to talk a lot of people either see the

1085
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 2>shirt or something that you have, Oh what is your

1086
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.039
<v Speaker 2>what is your podcast about? And because a lot of

1087
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 2>people there had them, so they'd be like, oh, it'd

1088
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 2>be great. It was just it was really cool. But

1089
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.840
<v Speaker 2>really the as far as as far as we were concerned,

1090
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.760
<v Speaker 2>no offense to anybody else because we didn't really know

1091
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:08.760
<v Speaker 2>who they were. But but Dereck Gilbert, you know, was

1092
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:11.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the main people we went to talk to.

1093
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Derek. Lawn and La backed out on us.

1094
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:17.159
<v Speaker 2>And eventually we'll we'll get to talk to La at

1095
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:20.760
<v Speaker 2>some point. Oh yeah, we'll make it. We'll keep pushing. Eventually,

1096
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:25.920
<v Speaker 2>eventually we'll get him on here. But with Dereck Gilbert,

1097
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and it was really cool because we got to it

1098
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.880
<v Speaker 2>was it was kind of funny because Justin said the

1099
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:35.679
<v Speaker 2>same thing to me afterwards and because I'm sitting there

1100
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.800
<v Speaker 2>next to Liz and I keep going, this is building

1101
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 2>up to this, this is building up to this, And

1102
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I'd say what the next thing was? And and then

1103
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you said, Becka said the same thing to you. It

1104
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 2>is like She's like, you do we even have to

1105
00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:49.679
<v Speaker 2>be here? It's like he was just on the show.

1106
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 2>He went over a lot of the same stuff.

1107
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:57.039
<v Speaker 1>The that wonder honestly, I mean, were we warm up Yeah,

1108
00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 1>if we warmed him up for it, or if if

1109
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.639
<v Speaker 1>he had spoken on that before. Maybe you had his

1110
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff together for this conference and just kind of bled

1111
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>through on our show. But the whole Hey, mom, guess

1112
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 1>what he used that? And he used the I was

1113
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>so hoping he would reference our our show because he

1114
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:19.519
<v Speaker 1>went into there's nuggets of gold in scripture, you know,

1115
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>and we just have to dig and find them.

1116
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, that would have been cool if.

1117
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.440
<v Speaker 2>He I mean, his stuff was great. So you know,

1118
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing was a spiritual warfare conference. So the

1119
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 2>focus was, you know, how to fight these demons, how

1120
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 2>to rid yourself, how to how to protect yourself against them.

1121
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:46.239
<v Speaker 1>And Derek really dove into who the principalities are and

1122
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:48.960
<v Speaker 1>where demons come from.

1123
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:50.880
<v Speaker 3>And I really wish I how to win.

1124
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.320
<v Speaker 2>It was really really good, and he went, I mean, and.

1125
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 1>He done the whole through the Valley of the Shadow

1126
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>of Death Mount Hermond, but Shan and stuff.

1127
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:05.760
<v Speaker 2>The beth saida as far as Bashine. When when Jesus

1128
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 2>was getting baptized, like looking across the Jordan. In the Bible,

1129
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 2>what does it say, It says Bethany, Yeah, Bethany, But

1130
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:18.800
<v Speaker 2>that was missing. It was most likely misinterpreted as what

1131
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:20.639
<v Speaker 2>beth Sayida from beth Sayida.

1132
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.679
<v Speaker 1>But even the geography because it said east of the Jordan,

1133
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and the place where everybody thinks John was baptizing was

1134
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:33.039
<v Speaker 1>west of the Jordans. So even the geography core scripture

1135
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:34.199
<v Speaker 1>is not right.

1136
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.599
<v Speaker 2>And it's right into the plains of Bashan.

1137
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Which is where all those Doman fields are. And that's

1138
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>why even it says you know, it said you know

1139
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>in that psalm it said, you know, yay, though I

1140
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:47.599
<v Speaker 1>walked through the Valley of Shadow of Death, I will

1141
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 1>fear no evil. And David wrote that, and it showed

1142
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the main road that cut through from Egypt all the

1143
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:56.320
<v Speaker 1>way through Israel, the main road, the trade route that

1144
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, David and his armies marched several times, goes

1145
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.559
<v Speaker 1>right through Sean. So he said, you know, this is

1146
00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>what he was talking about. And he says, and you

1147
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.679
<v Speaker 1>prepare a table for me in the presence of nine enemies.

1148
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.119
<v Speaker 1>And he showed pictures of those domens. Those domens, they

1149
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:11.159
<v Speaker 1>got huge tables.

1150
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.000
<v Speaker 2>R V Marus that was the name of that road,

1151
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:17.400
<v Speaker 2>the Roman road that went through there. The V Mars.

1152
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be creepy walking, you know, walking down

1153
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:22.880
<v Speaker 3>through there.

1154
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because all the necromancing rituals and stuff they did

1155
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 1>with the refiem and stuff. I mean it was synonymous

1156
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.000
<v Speaker 1>at the people at that time that that was, you know,

1157
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>synonymous with the underworld, the you know, death. But yeah,

1158
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Derek was awesome. He nailed it down the park. And

1159
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 1>then who was after him was that Sandra?

1160
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I think we had Sandra Allison after.

1161
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Him and she was virtual.

1162
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh and Derek, I know, we had all his information.

1163
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 2>You can find him in a million different spots. Look to

1164
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.079
<v Speaker 2>our last episode.

1165
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:58.320
<v Speaker 1>At Gilbert Housefellowship dot com, SKYWATCHTV dot com.

1166
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:01.840
<v Speaker 2>He's got apps that were for the view to the

1167
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Bunker is one of them. And then it's the Gilbert

1168
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:09.840
<v Speaker 2>House Fellowship. Fellowship I think the app is called I

1169
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 2>think it's the app is is gh TV is Gilbert

1170
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.480
<v Speaker 2>House Television, So look look that up as well. But

1171
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:20.679
<v Speaker 2>he's got so many resources, so many interesting things. I

1172
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.440
<v Speaker 2>know we went extensively into all those different resources on

1173
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 2>the show we had with h but look back into

1174
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.679
<v Speaker 2>it because it's really good.

1175
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 1>And Sandra Allison, she was kind of on the same

1176
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:39.679
<v Speaker 1>page with Tracy tennantt it was the whole spiritual warfare

1177
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and uh meditation and hers was more like on a

1178
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.440
<v Speaker 1>PhD psychology level. Because even Rebecca, you know, she went

1179
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to school and got her major in psychology, and she

1180
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:54.920
<v Speaker 1>was talking about you know, you could you could totally

1181
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:59.280
<v Speaker 1>tell that she had her degree in psychology. Psychology, Yeah,

1182
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>all the monology. And she was talking about, you know,

1183
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:05.199
<v Speaker 1>rape victims, you know, when they're raped at a young age,

1184
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:09.199
<v Speaker 1>or even if they're raped several times at different ages,

1185
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:15.199
<v Speaker 1>they revert back to the youngest the first time. Yeah,

1186
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and they and that persona or whatever holds onto that

1187
01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:23.480
<v Speaker 1>memory and that way the person living doesn't remember it anymore.

1188
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.840
<v Speaker 1>So she'll do stuff with them to to bring out

1189
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that inner child and release that trauma and free that person.

1190
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Stuff like that. But it's all it's it's basically psychology

1191
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:38.119
<v Speaker 1>and Christianity kind of combined.

1192
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was called a splanka. There was this splank

1193
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:46.280
<v Speaker 2>of therapy where and it's as you have to look

1194
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:49.360
<v Speaker 2>it up. It's s P l A and k N

1195
01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:53.840
<v Speaker 2>A and it's something I'd never heard of before. Very

1196
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:58.880
<v Speaker 2>very unique, very interesting. But go ahead look into that

1197
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 2>deals a lot with like meridian system systems and the

1198
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of some of the energy fields and stuff. It

1199
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 2>sounds and she even prefaced this sounds a lot like

1200
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:15.599
<v Speaker 2>New age stuff. She preferenced, prefaced that, she said that,

1201
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.599
<v Speaker 2>but we're looking you know, it's it's you have to

1202
01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:21.280
<v Speaker 2>make sure if you do any of these types of

1203
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:24.360
<v Speaker 2>things that you research, make sure it's a Christian person

1204
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.679
<v Speaker 2>that's helping you through this type of therapy and things

1205
01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:29.360
<v Speaker 2>of that nature, because otherwise, you know, if you it's

1206
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:31.679
<v Speaker 2>the same with anything if you go and you go

1207
01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:34.760
<v Speaker 2>to a bad church with a pastor that has ill intent,

1208
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:37.079
<v Speaker 2>and you can get fed the wrong way as well.

1209
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:40.039
<v Speaker 2>So you have to know what you're what you're in

1210
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.119
<v Speaker 2>for is of God.

1211
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>So and then after she spoke, Uh, we had dinner

1212
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:49.840
<v Speaker 1>break or I guess I think it was lunch Well yeah,

1213
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.039
<v Speaker 1>well no because oh yeah, because that's when we had

1214
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.119
<v Speaker 1>to lunch in and that's when we met you know,

1215
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:58.039
<v Speaker 1>David Pash and we done talked about that. Then when

1216
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:02.480
<v Speaker 1>we came back, it was another verse with doctor Mike Spaulding.

1217
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:09.559
<v Speaker 1>But I'm sorry, mister Spaulding, but our ut vols, yeah,

1218
01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:14.119
<v Speaker 1>go be guards and if you don't know, we beat Alabama, okay,

1219
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.440
<v Speaker 1>but uh so we went to uh this little uh

1220
01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:21.360
<v Speaker 1>bar and grill and had about to eat and uh

1221
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>watched the game. Uh well, we watched the first you know,

1222
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:27.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe quarter of it, and then it was time for

1223
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Vicky Joy and we didn't want to miss that because

1224
01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, we've had my wife on another

1225
01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:37.719
<v Speaker 1>episode and she's talked about her night terrors and sleep

1226
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 1>proolyss you know issues and stuff like that. And that

1227
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:45.639
<v Speaker 1>was the Vicky Joy's uh uh whole uh expertise. I

1228
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.760
<v Speaker 1>guess would say. She wrote a book uh called day

1229
01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Only Come Out at Night and it was all about

1230
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 1>sleep paralyssies and how demons and stuff like that, you know,

1231
01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:57.280
<v Speaker 1>attack you in your sleep and how and it was

1232
01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:01.480
<v Speaker 1>all you know, surrounded uh that subject. And she wrote

1233
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that book so you know, we were definitely interested in that,

1234
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:07.199
<v Speaker 1>and you know, my wife, she wanted to try to

1235
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:10.559
<v Speaker 1>get some tools to maybe help with her stuff she's

1236
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:13.960
<v Speaker 1>dealing with. And actually, Rebecca, you know, when we was

1237
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.400
<v Speaker 1>having those exhibitors and stuff and going down and having

1238
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the meet and greets, while me and him was talking

1239
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to Kenny and Derek and stuff, she kind of took

1240
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:24.599
<v Speaker 1>off to the corner with Vicki and talked to her

1241
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the whole time. She got a lot of cool information

1242
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:28.400
<v Speaker 1>from her. So we came back for that.

1243
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was she was. She was awesome. I mean,

1244
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:37.079
<v Speaker 2>she she blew me away, like the information and stuff

1245
01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:40.599
<v Speaker 2>that I mean, I guess partly if you've never dealt

1246
01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:43.199
<v Speaker 2>with like something like sleep paralysis or some of those

1247
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:47.079
<v Speaker 2>other you know, people talk about and this is I

1248
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.440
<v Speaker 2>know to some people it sounds like ghost stories. But

1249
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.599
<v Speaker 2>and I know somebody listened to this has had this

1250
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:54.760
<v Speaker 2>happen to them, because I've known too many people that

1251
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:57.719
<v Speaker 2>have told me the same story. But they'll be laying

1252
01:04:57.760 --> 01:04:59.400
<v Speaker 2>at home in bed at night, and all of a sudden,

1253
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:02.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a shadow in their room and they see this shadow,

1254
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and the shadow moves to them or holds them down

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<v Speaker 2>and they can't scream and move. It's they strangle them

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01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:10.719
<v Speaker 2>or they just feel like they just can't. They can't speak,

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01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:13.280
<v Speaker 2>they can't do anything. And this stuff happens to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, a lot more people than are willing

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<v Speaker 2>to say. Even one of the other ladies I was

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01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:20.679
<v Speaker 2>at the conference were sitting. I was talking to her

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<v Speaker 2>and she started.

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<v Speaker 1>Had no idea, she had no idea that Joy was

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<v Speaker 1>and he started telling her about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and she goes, oh my gosh, I've been looking

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<v Speaker 2>for someone to talk to about that because that happens

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, and she even said, she said, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never told anybody, she said, but I feel comfortable here,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, And since you brought it up, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm not crazy, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's true. I mean this this is stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>that I mean, it's it ain't to the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>about me in bed.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I told you all before over in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's creepy. Oh yeah, I mean I didn't

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01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.679
<v Speaker 3>like see nothing. It's just sometimes darker.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people always see something sometimes, I think

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01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:03.039
<v Speaker 2>they just feel the oppression.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like a feeling of being older, Yeah, restrained

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01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:10.280
<v Speaker 3>restrained would probably be a better word.

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<v Speaker 2>Another type of demonic attack.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, which I say, you brought your notepad with

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01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you to talk about some of her you know, her

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01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:20.000
<v Speaker 1>nuggets in there. She had some really good ones. So one,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the last Supper Leonardo da Vinci painting, there's

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<v Speaker 1>something in there that I would I would probably if

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<v Speaker 1>I was a betting man, I'd probably bet fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to your penny that you never noticed this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet you that too. But I'm gonna jump into

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things. You jump in when you feel

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01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:47.719
<v Speaker 2>that you got your your nuggets, show me your nuggets.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the first things that she's talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>if we go back, and I found this kind of interesting,

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01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:57.159
<v Speaker 2>but she was talking about Esclepias and that was the

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01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:02.039
<v Speaker 2>serpent god of healing. And I think this is really

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01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:04.639
<v Speaker 2>funny because it's things that we don't even really notice.

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01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:08.280
<v Speaker 2>But it look at the side of an ambulance, right

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01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you see that kind of asterix looking star, and you

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<v Speaker 2>see that that staff with the snake wrapped around it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where that's where it comes from. And it's called

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<v Speaker 2>the staff of Asclepias, and that we still hold to

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01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:25.239
<v Speaker 2>that today. And one of the really interesting things and

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<v Speaker 2>this is this one is the one that I think

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01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:32.599
<v Speaker 2>probably did you. That's exactly what.

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01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. I was going through my images. I

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01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:36.280
<v Speaker 1>got it somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually took I actually looked it back up today

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<v Speaker 2>because okay, here, so the original Hippocratic oath.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, these are what these doctors are reciting. Well, this

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01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:50.639
<v Speaker 1>protect you.

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<v Speaker 2>They've modified it now, but originally this is what it

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01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:57.360
<v Speaker 2>comes from. This is the Hippocratic oath. A lot of

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01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:01.320
<v Speaker 2>people attribute it to Hippocrates, but most scholars don't believe

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01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:05.320
<v Speaker 2>that he actually wrote it. But it says, I swear

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01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:11.440
<v Speaker 2>by Apollo the Physician, and Asclepias and Helgia and Panacea

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01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and all the gods and goddesses as my witness, that

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01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 2>according to my ability and my judgment, I will keep

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01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:20.760
<v Speaker 2>this oath in this contract, to hold him who taught

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01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:23.760
<v Speaker 2>me this art equally dear to me as my parents,

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01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:26.720
<v Speaker 2>to be a partner in life with him, and fulfill

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01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.000
<v Speaker 2>his needs when required. So we go through it. There's

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01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:32.680
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of different things that say, but it talks.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the parts that I thought was the most

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01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:39.520
<v Speaker 2>interesting is it says I will reverence my master who

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01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:40.520
<v Speaker 2>taught me the art.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's kind of creepy.

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01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:50.359
<v Speaker 2>It is extremely creepy. Gods, ye, gods and goddesses, and

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01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:51.960
<v Speaker 2>then they named four of them right.

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01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.720
<v Speaker 3>There right to go back contract contract.

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01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I always guests, see contract.

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01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:02.279
<v Speaker 2>So proud of you right now.

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01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:07.520
<v Speaker 3>He didn't even study, didn't even study.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought that was that just that was like

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01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I had never heard of that, like the original that

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01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:16.560
<v Speaker 2>had been modified. But when you look at that, I

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01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.760
<v Speaker 2>find that just that's kind of that's really and that's

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01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:21.840
<v Speaker 2>it was originally written in Greek. I mean, that's what

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01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:26.880
<v Speaker 2>it comes from Greek, and then it has been changed

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01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:28.279
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, which.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some screenshots of what she led up with,

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01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:34.199
<v Speaker 1>like the little definitions and stuff. So like one of

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01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:37.640
<v Speaker 1>her first slides it says what is sleep paralysis? And

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<v Speaker 1>it says in parentheses the experts what the experts have

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01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 1>to say? It says Medical News Today, a terrifying sleep

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01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:50.960
<v Speaker 1>disorder experienced since the dawn of humankind. Very healthylife dot

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01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.560
<v Speaker 1>com says it's sleep paralysis is one of the most

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01:09:54.600 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 1>common sleeping conditions out there. It can be temp. What

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01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:07.119
<v Speaker 1>is that word temp? I never saw that word tem

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01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 1>fy and g temping either way, and it can sometimes

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01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.920
<v Speaker 1>make people imagine that they are being trapped in their

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01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:20.439
<v Speaker 1>beds by some invisible force, when all it is in

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01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 1>reality is the body going through its natural process and

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01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:28.439
<v Speaker 1>firing neurons off at random in order to relieve tension

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01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:32.960
<v Speaker 1>before the body falls asleep. And then also, sleepfoundation dot

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<v Speaker 1>Org says sleep paralysis is a temporary inability to move

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01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:43.039
<v Speaker 1>that occurs not after falling asleep or waking up. Individuals

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01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:48.439
<v Speaker 1>remain aware during episodes, which frequently involve troubling hallucinations and

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01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:54.520
<v Speaker 1>sensations of suffocation. The new Agers say that sleep paralysis

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<v Speaker 1>is the perfect time to try astrail projection. While your

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01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:03.159
<v Speaker 1>body is anchored and unmoving, It's relatively easy to separate

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01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:06.960
<v Speaker 1>your astral body from the physical body. In fact, it's

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01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:13.039
<v Speaker 1>ideal situation during astral projection. You want your spirit or

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01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:16.079
<v Speaker 1>soul to get up out of bed while your physical

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01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:21.000
<v Speaker 1>body stays put. This isn't easy, but sleep paralysis affords

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<v Speaker 1>you the perfect opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about this, that movie that's Doctor Strange. They glorify this,

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01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:33.399
<v Speaker 2>that where he pulls himself out of that.

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01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Kid, that kid the movie What is it now? That's

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01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:39.239
<v Speaker 1>they made three or four of them. But that's what

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01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the whole movie was about. That he would insidious. Remember,

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01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:47.399
<v Speaker 1>he would sleep and his soul would leave his body

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01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and go to this upside down dimension or world and

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01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 1>he would roam free and do all this stuff. Then

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01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.479
<v Speaker 1>his spirit or soul would come back to his body,

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01:11:57.079 --> 01:11:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and in the movie, he gets stuck in that up

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01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.920
<v Speaker 1>side down and then this medium has to go and

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01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:06.319
<v Speaker 1>retrieve him and bringing back home. I mean, that's what

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01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole movies of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what I'm thinking of a different move I can't

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01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:18.000
<v Speaker 3>think of the word, but I mean you even think

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01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.640
<v Speaker 3>about okay, now, if your spirit's out of your body,

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01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:26.000
<v Speaker 3>looking yeah, yeah, that's that's where I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Well, if you look at look back and you

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01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:31.680
<v Speaker 2>talk about the we talked a lot before about like

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01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Babbel and or some of these other gigantic temples that

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01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:38.119
<v Speaker 2>they built so they could mingle with the gods. You know,

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01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:41.039
<v Speaker 2>they would have a sacrifice or something, and then if

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01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:43.319
<v Speaker 2>that person's soul leaves their body, they're trying to have

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01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:46.279
<v Speaker 2>one of the gods, you know, use that body as

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01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:51.039
<v Speaker 2>a vessel. So there's a lot of things with that.

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01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:54.279
<v Speaker 2>But the astral projection stuff was is really deep and

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01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:58.119
<v Speaker 2>actually what's really disturbing. And I remember hearing about this

1393
01:12:58.159 --> 01:12:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even know what it was, but I

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01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:01.439
<v Speaker 2>remember hearing about this. I think it was last year

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01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:06.039
<v Speaker 2>with Aaron Rodgers Green Bay Packers talk about the having

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01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 2>banned substances and what they're not allowed to have or

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01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:13.840
<v Speaker 2>allowed to have as athletes, and he was allowed as

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01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:19.239
<v Speaker 2>an NFL player to smoke ayahuasca. And ayahuasca is a

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01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:23.680
<v Speaker 2>substance and it's pretty trippy, and she Vicky Joey Anderson

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01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:26.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of brought that in start talking about how people

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01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 2>use that as a way to separate themselves basically, you know,

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01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 2>in a way that we use not we I'm saying,

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01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 2>people use different types of drugs. You know, you go

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01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:43.439
<v Speaker 2>on these hallucinogenetic trips, so you know, find your spirit

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01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:46.119
<v Speaker 2>animal or your spirit guide and all these crazy things.

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01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 2>But it gets people high as a kite. And then

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01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:51.840
<v Speaker 2>most of the time, and most of the time it's

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01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:55.199
<v Speaker 2>not like it's she said, especially in the beginning when

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01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:58.680
<v Speaker 2>they do it, it's not a pleasant experience. It's usually

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01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:02.159
<v Speaker 2>something very dark, very evil. And she says, as you

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01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:07.720
<v Speaker 2>as you get can control it more. It gets slowly

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01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.119
<v Speaker 2>better and better, to the point where you're going to

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01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 2>these other levels.

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01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:14.079
<v Speaker 1>It's it's intense, it's scary, reaching enlightenment.

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01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:18.439
<v Speaker 2>But this stuff, this stuff is a lot of celebrities

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01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 2>are doing this. This is this is a big deal

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01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:23.000
<v Speaker 2>right now. This ayahuasca stuff is a big deal right now.

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01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:26.079
<v Speaker 2>This is I mean, I remember that being on ESPN.

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01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:28.840
<v Speaker 2>They kept talking debating whether or not that was Aaron Rodgers,

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01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:32.199
<v Speaker 2>should he have use it or not? And if and

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01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:34.520
<v Speaker 2>that's just something that's one guy, and you know how

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01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:37.319
<v Speaker 2>many more are probably doing those things?

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01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Said what scientology? Yeah, it's just you know, now, I just.

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01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:48.640
<v Speaker 2>It's just to me, it just blows me away. And

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01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:52.039
<v Speaker 2>then she even went into the differences between you know,

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01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:55.800
<v Speaker 2>when people say they're abducted by UFOs versus sleep paralysis,

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01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and bringing in the the kind of the common denome

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01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:03.520
<v Speaker 2>or u arcteristics, Yeah, the characteristics of each and how

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01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:07.079
<v Speaker 2>how they both are demonic in some form or another.

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01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:10.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, different costumes, yes, exactly, they.

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01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Think they're being abducted, but it's really well, just the

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01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:17.680
<v Speaker 3>demon's presenting themselves as something.

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<v Speaker 2>Different and it usually usually you're being it's there's some

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01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:26.319
<v Speaker 2>differences in the two obviously, but the you know, you're

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01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:28.680
<v Speaker 2>always they're always coming to take you, always coming to

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01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:31.199
<v Speaker 2>grab you or drag you away, or do something to you,

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01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:33.600
<v Speaker 2>do some kind of experiment to you, or something like this,

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01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:37.439
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's it's if the devil can put these

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01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.840
<v Speaker 2>ideas in your head that there are aliens that are

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01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:44.560
<v Speaker 2>going to attack you or or or abduct you, or

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01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.359
<v Speaker 2>you put these things in your head that, oh, if

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01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:49.279
<v Speaker 2>I can. And actually it's one of the other things

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01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 2>is that a lot of these people that smoke this

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01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:54.600
<v Speaker 2>ayahuasca says that when they get to a certain point,

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01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:57.600
<v Speaker 2>it says that they feel like gods. When they're high

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01:15:57.640 --> 01:15:59.359
<v Speaker 2>on this stuff, they get to a plane where they

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01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 2>say they feel like they're the gods, and so they

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01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:05.119
<v Speaker 2>always crave this. It's just like the guard of eating

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01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:08.079
<v Speaker 2>all over again. Right right, eat that apple or whatever

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01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:10.960
<v Speaker 2>fruit that was from that tree, and you will be

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01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:14.319
<v Speaker 2>like God. And that's what people have always been striving for,

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01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:16.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's why they try to always conjure up these

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01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:21.279
<v Speaker 2>things like but you're trying to find that. But people

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01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:23.840
<v Speaker 2>have been trying to find that throughout history, and that's

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01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:27.000
<v Speaker 2>why it's so easy for Satan, those demons to reach

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01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:30.119
<v Speaker 2>out and grab you is because people always want power,

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01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:33.840
<v Speaker 2>People always want that forbidden knowledge the next step, and

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01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:38.359
<v Speaker 2>it's something that that there's certain things that first of all,

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01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:40.279
<v Speaker 2>when we talk about some things that you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about Enoch before, there's certain knowledge people were

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01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:46.600
<v Speaker 2>not meant to have, and some of those angels came

1462
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:51.960
<v Speaker 2>down and they gave knowledge in exchange for those for

1463
01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:54.359
<v Speaker 2>human women that they that they lost it after. I mean,

1464
01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:58.039
<v Speaker 2>there's warship and there's things that well, and for their yeah,

1465
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:00.680
<v Speaker 2>but there's certain things that we were not meant to have.

1466
01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:03.720
<v Speaker 1>And I like how she said too. She said, you know,

1467
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it says in Enoch, you know that they thought they

1468
01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:10.159
<v Speaker 1>knew all these great and wise things, but little did

1469
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.680
<v Speaker 1>they know that God said they only had the worthless ones.

1470
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:15.000
<v Speaker 1>And she said, so look at it this way, She said,

1471
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 1>would you go to counseling and for wisdom to a

1472
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:24.760
<v Speaker 1>high school dropout? She said, that's what these filing angels are.

1473
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:27.359
<v Speaker 1>She said, they're high school dropouts. She said they quit

1474
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:30.720
<v Speaker 1>before they even got all their education done. She said,

1475
01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:33.880
<v Speaker 1>so you think they got all the wisdom? She said. Furthermore,

1476
01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:37.520
<v Speaker 1>she said, they want the power. So whatever they are

1477
01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:40.159
<v Speaker 1>giving you that you don't have, you're only getting a

1478
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:42.680
<v Speaker 1>taste of what they even know, which ain't that much

1479
01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:45.319
<v Speaker 1>to begin with. She said, don't get your wisdom from

1480
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:46.640
<v Speaker 1>high school dropouts.

1481
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Oh man, she blew. There's so many different

1482
01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:53.920
<v Speaker 2>little sections in here, all these note I took so

1483
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:57.199
<v Speaker 2>many notes of her on this stuff. It just was

1484
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.319
<v Speaker 2>amazing to me. But when she started talking about the

1485
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:03.960
<v Speaker 2>different covenants, and this is what you had alluded to

1486
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:08.800
<v Speaker 2>earlier with the Last Supper, but prior to that, she

1487
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:12.159
<v Speaker 2>started talking about the threshold covenants, right, And you always

1488
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:13.399
<v Speaker 2>heard those old stories, you know.

1489
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 1>What, you've carrying your wife over the threshold.

1490
01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Threshold or even look back to like old lore like

1491
01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:24.239
<v Speaker 2>the the Dracula or whatever. The vampire couldn't come into

1492
01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:26.760
<v Speaker 2>your house unless you invited him across the threshold, you know,

1493
01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:30.079
<v Speaker 2>of your house. However, back in history, the way that

1494
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:31.800
<v Speaker 2>in the way that she described it, it made a lot

1495
01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:38.199
<v Speaker 2>of sense, is the threshold was these large It started

1496
01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:40.439
<v Speaker 2>out as like a large earthen where they'd have their

1497
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:43.640
<v Speaker 2>their stove, their oven, their fire, and that was your threshold.

1498
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:47.279
<v Speaker 1>What do they call it a hearth stone or hearthstone.

1499
01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:52.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's where this that that hearth is where you

1500
01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:55.479
<v Speaker 2>would have that's where you you know, you went to

1501
01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:57.760
<v Speaker 2>get warm. That's where you got your food. That's where

1502
01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you worshiped. That was that was considered your altar to

1503
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:05.399
<v Speaker 2>some degree. That's where everybody got around to worship God,

1504
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:09.199
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was, all the different things. That was your hearth.

1505
01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:11.800
<v Speaker 2>So when you let somebody to your hearth, that was

1506
01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:14.920
<v Speaker 2>that was the center of your house, right, that was

1507
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.279
<v Speaker 2>that was the And over time and this she showed

1508
01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:22.359
<v Speaker 2>great slides of this, but overslides, it went smaller, right,

1509
01:19:22.399 --> 01:19:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, Okay, now we have a

1510
01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:28.159
<v Speaker 2>big fireplace. Okay, it's still there. You know, maybe we're

1511
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:30.600
<v Speaker 2>not cooking on it because now we have a stove.

1512
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.199
<v Speaker 2>And then it goes to this little fireplace and then

1513
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:34.720
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you look and it's one of

1514
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:36.760
<v Speaker 2>these fake ones with a and.

1515
01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:41.199
<v Speaker 1>A TV thing. The God now the altar.

1516
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:43.680
<v Speaker 2>And that's it, and that's our alter. Now we've changed

1517
01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that to the point where this is where we commune

1518
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:47.840
<v Speaker 2>with God. So now we're sitting on the couch watching

1519
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:51.560
<v Speaker 2>little house on the prairie. Who knows, but we're it.

1520
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:54.680
<v Speaker 2>We've totally changed our focus. We used to come together

1521
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:57.680
<v Speaker 2>at the threshold at the altar to that's where we

1522
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.159
<v Speaker 2>met to worship God with our family, with our with

1523
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:02.600
<v Speaker 2>our friends. And it's gotten to the point now where

1524
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:05.359
<v Speaker 2>we've let that go in our houses and we're so

1525
01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:07.680
<v Speaker 2>easy to go. Well, I went to church on Sunday.

1526
01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:11.239
<v Speaker 2>I did my part where really we should be in

1527
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:14.119
<v Speaker 2>God's word every day, which is what they would have

1528
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:16.640
<v Speaker 2>done in the past, you know, but it would have

1529
01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:19.960
<v Speaker 2>been at the threshold in the house. And you know,

1530
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and to the point now where the threshold now has

1531
01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.279
<v Speaker 2>even come out to the door. There's just she had

1532
01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:25.800
<v Speaker 2>some great.

1533
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>And the threshold covenant too, you know. She talked about

1534
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you know how you know, vampires got to be invited in,

1535
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, to let these demons and stuff in,

1536
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:36.319
<v Speaker 1>You've got to open a door. You got to invite

1537
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:38.199
<v Speaker 1>them in. You know. It went on and it said

1538
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that even Jesus, you know, is a you know, yet

1539
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:46.239
<v Speaker 1>say thank God he's spiritual, right, yeah, And she used

1540
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:49.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, Revelation three twenty and it showed that painting

1541
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:51.600
<v Speaker 1>of him standing in front of the door knock and

1542
01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:53.640
<v Speaker 1>it says, behold, I stand at the door and knock.

1543
01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:56.159
<v Speaker 1>If any man hear my voice and open the door,

1544
01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:59.039
<v Speaker 1>I will come in to him and I will sup

1545
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:02.039
<v Speaker 1>with him and he with me. So she's saying, it's

1546
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:06.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like rules of engagement for spiritual beings with

1547
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:12.079
<v Speaker 1>earthly fleshy beings, that we have to invite them in.

1548
01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:18.039
<v Speaker 2>You think about our our our our altar. Now really

1549
01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:20.640
<v Speaker 2>is the Holy Spirit lives in us. It's in our spirit.

1550
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:22.520
<v Speaker 2>It's the same way God's knocking on our heart and

1551
01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:25.720
<v Speaker 2>wants to come in. And our soul really our hearth,

1552
01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:29.399
<v Speaker 2>our hearth exactly our inner, our most entered and that's

1553
01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:33.159
<v Speaker 2>exactly I mean, that's what it turns into. So then

1554
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:36.239
<v Speaker 2>we learned about salt salt, the salt and bread covenants.

1555
01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you ever heard the old saying, you know,

1556
01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll take this with a grain of salt, or he's

1557
01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:45.319
<v Speaker 1>not worth his weight in salt. That's where that all

1558
01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:50.079
<v Speaker 1>come from. But they would make agreements, contracts, covenants with salt,

1559
01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:55.159
<v Speaker 1>and uh, what I thought was just like mind blowing.

1560
01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:56.880
<v Speaker 1>She was talking about that, and she was like, you know,

1561
01:21:56.920 --> 01:21:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard that phrase or this or that? And

1562
01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's like, that's because it all originated from

1563
01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:07.039
<v Speaker 1>these covenants and agreements, you know, with salt. And she said,

1564
01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:08.439
<v Speaker 1>now I want to show you something, she said, probably

1565
01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:11.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna blow your mind. And she pulled up the last Supper.

1566
01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:14.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think that was Leonardo da Vinci, and

1567
01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it sounds right. It was zoomed in. Yeah. And if

1568
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you've ever noticed, but Judas at the table has his

1569
01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:28.159
<v Speaker 1>elbow on the table and he's leaning over like he's

1570
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:30.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to, you know, listen in to whatever Jesus trying

1571
01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to say. He put a little easter egg in that painting. Uh,

1572
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>he's knocked over a salt container and the salt spill. Wow,

1573
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:47.199
<v Speaker 1>he broke the salt covenant. And it said that when

1574
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Jesus you know, took the bread and you know it

1575
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:53.159
<v Speaker 1>was dipping it, you know, and giving it stuff like that,

1576
01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that it was real common back then. She caught it

1577
01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like a fish sauce or something like this, some kind

1578
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>of officialty. But it was real salty, real salty, you know,

1579
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>something they would dip bread in for for flavor and taste.

1580
01:23:07.079 --> 01:23:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And she said, you know, it's a probably a good

1581
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>possibility that you know, that was there, and that was

1582
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>like a salt covenant, you know, being performed but.

1583
01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:19.760
<v Speaker 2>She called salt and bread covenants because you break bread

1584
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:22.319
<v Speaker 2>with someone. It was also like, that's it's kind of

1585
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:24.680
<v Speaker 2>like the old blood blood blood Brothers thing. You know,

1586
01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you're you're spit in your hand, and you know it's

1587
01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:30.479
<v Speaker 2>you make a vow a covenant with those people. And

1588
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:33.439
<v Speaker 2>and it's the same thing right there, you broke bread

1589
01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:36.640
<v Speaker 2>with them, that that's that covenant you're making with them.

1590
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:38.840
<v Speaker 2>And then you know what, and then and then Judas

1591
01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:42.039
<v Speaker 2>spills the salt as a as a as a little

1592
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:44.159
<v Speaker 2>easter egg in there, as you said, to show that

1593
01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:47.479
<v Speaker 2>he's breaking his end of it. And that really that

1594
01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:51.159
<v Speaker 2>was whoa hold out a sec That's pretty intense.

1595
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:53.239
<v Speaker 1>And what's really cool is I didn't really you know,

1596
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm not real artsy guy, but uh I seen a

1597
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>video one time. You have, you know, you see those

1598
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:02.640
<v Speaker 1>inspirational video you know, were preachers and stuff talking and

1599
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember who this was, but I remember I

1600
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>seen it on Facebook and it was something similar to this,

1601
01:24:07.479 --> 01:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>showing like an easter egg and a painting and this

1602
01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:12.640
<v Speaker 1>preacher or evangelist speaker or whatever it was telling this

1603
01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:16.039
<v Speaker 1>story and he said there was a world champion chess

1604
01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>player and went to this art museum and was in

1605
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the group and they were walking around showing all these paintings. Well,

1606
01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>they made this one painting and it was the devil

1607
01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>playing chess with an angel, and the devils sitting across

1608
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:36.239
<v Speaker 1>just smiling, looking all confident, you know, and the angels

1609
01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:38.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of sitting there, leaning over with his hand on

1610
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:40.720
<v Speaker 1>his head like he's stressed out, you know, he's defeated.

1611
01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And the person that was doing the tours like, and

1612
01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>this painting is by such and such and it's called checkmate.

1613
01:24:50.359 --> 01:24:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Here the angel has lost with the devil, and you

1614
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>know it was painted you know, such and such time.

1615
01:24:56.920 --> 01:24:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Now whatever, she said, moving along, and she went to

1616
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>go walking, and of course the chess player just stopped,

1617
01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:04.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, was just staring at the painting, and he

1618
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:07.199
<v Speaker 1>stood there for you know, ten minutes or so, and

1619
01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>then they realized, you know, hey, we lost one. So

1620
01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they went back and he was standing in front of

1621
01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>that painting and she said, sir, yeah, keep moving along,

1622
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we need to keep moving. And he was like,

1623
01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to change this painting or change the

1624
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>name of it. And she's like, well, what do you mean.

1625
01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>He says, well, I'm a I'm a world champion chess player.

1626
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>This is not a checkmate. And she's like, what do

1627
01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:39.199
<v Speaker 1>you mean and he says, look closely, he said, the

1628
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>king still has one more move, right, God, the king

1629
01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:49.399
<v Speaker 1>has one more move So it's like these artists, you know,

1630
01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:54.199
<v Speaker 1>put these little easter eggs in there for somebody with who.

1631
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Has the wisdom to look at it and figure.

1632
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:57.640
<v Speaker 1>And see it. So the same thing with that last

1633
01:25:57.640 --> 01:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>supper in the Salt Covenant.

1634
01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>She was awesome, like I really enjoyed that, and.

1635
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>You can think it was about that with that book

1636
01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>already really.

1637
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, you can find her stuff at at Vicky joy

1638
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Anderson dot com. I have the book. I bought it.

1639
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I have not read it yet, I'll be honest. But

1640
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:20.479
<v Speaker 2>then again, it's only been a few days. So I

1641
01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:23.359
<v Speaker 2>got like five other books I'm reading at the same time.

1642
01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:27.359
<v Speaker 2>And it's on top of that one day, well, on

1643
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:29.039
<v Speaker 2>top of that one God wrote, you know, he got

1644
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:32.159
<v Speaker 2>to find time for that one too, So you know,

1645
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:36.800
<v Speaker 2>it's there's so much good information. I love. We were

1646
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:39.800
<v Speaker 2>at that thing. It took things, you know, it was

1647
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>a spiritual warfare conference.

1648
01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:43.159
<v Speaker 1>It was very.

1649
01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Intense. I mean, it was very things that were you know,

1650
01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:51.640
<v Speaker 2>it's not things they talk about in church. This is

1651
01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:55.199
<v Speaker 2>something that you know, I firmly believe. And some of

1652
01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:57.520
<v Speaker 2>those people there I think had been spurned by the

1653
01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:01.760
<v Speaker 2>church a few times because because of their viewpoints and

1654
01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:04.159
<v Speaker 2>things of that nature. And I think that's sad because

1655
01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I really believe that the church itself as a whole

1656
01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:15.239
<v Speaker 2>has one main mission. That's to make disciples right. Number

1657
01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:19.199
<v Speaker 2>one thing is they should be bringing and saving people.

1658
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>You know that that's the whole point, is teaching them

1659
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Jesus salvation. However, after that, it's up to us, right,

1660
01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:29.319
<v Speaker 2>It's not a one and done thing. The whole point

1661
01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>is that about this spiritual war that's going on, is

1662
01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:34.720
<v Speaker 2>that we put on that armor of God, as was

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<v Speaker 2>said about fifty times this weekend, and we get out

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<v Speaker 2>there on the front lines and we fight. We are

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that are on the on the front lines

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<v Speaker 2>of this. As we keep pushing forward and keep preaching

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01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:49.479
<v Speaker 2>the good word and keep trying to keep people's eyes

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01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>on Jesus, keep people's eyes on God's word and push forward.

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01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's so important. I think we get we

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01:27:57.039 --> 01:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>get trapped sometimes in and once again I have to

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01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:05.479
<v Speaker 2>preface it and say our church is amazing. I don't

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01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>believe our church is that way at all, But there

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot of churches, and I've been in a

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01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:12.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of churches that are that way, where you know,

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01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it's Jesus loves me every day, every sermon, and

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01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>he does. But after that, what's next? Like, what is

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<v Speaker 2>the next step?

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<v Speaker 3>No guidance?

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<v Speaker 1>You have to love how Derek Gilbert said. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jesus is not how did he word that,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus is not your feel good I don't remember what

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01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:44.159
<v Speaker 1>he said. Jesus is not your feel good daily sermon,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talking about you know, just you know, the prosperity,

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01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:50.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, preaching and stuff like that, he said. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my firm belief. He said, if our you

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<v Speaker 1>know forefathers you know, and ancient you know church fathers

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01:28:56.279 --> 01:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and people of Jesus' time, he said, seeing how you

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01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>know work lazy and complacent that we are and taking

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01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>all the supernatural stuff out of the Bible, he said,

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01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>they would grab us up by the collar. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>they would slap us ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>And I one hundred percent and after I'm the guidance

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01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:18.359
<v Speaker 2>of Tom done and that was one thing that he

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01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:21.119
<v Speaker 2>had said. He goes, you don't think this is this stuff,

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01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:23.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't think this stuff should happen, or

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01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:25.199
<v Speaker 2>you don't think the church would be involved in this.

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01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Read Acts, and that's what I've read this week, is

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<v Speaker 2>I've been going through Acts, and I've been taking a

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01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:34.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of notes because my gosh, those guys and there's

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01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>some really interesting things in there that I've never quite

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01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:39.319
<v Speaker 2>known that well, I shouldn't say knowing, but it really

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01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>haven't really seen. But it it talks about I always

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01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>thought that the Holy Spirit is someone who would just

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01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, lead you you know, not really,

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01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>but it blatantly says an Axe multiple times the Holy

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01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Spirit told him this. The Holy Spirit talk to people.

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01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:57.039
<v Speaker 2>And on top of that, there was a there was

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01:29:57.600 --> 01:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>a wizard or sorcerer they said, named Simon right in

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01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Acts that actually ended up being converted even though he

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01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:07.760
<v Speaker 2>was able to do all this, you know, some of

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01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.479
<v Speaker 2>the supernatural things, probably calling on obviously some of these

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01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>fallen angels. But it says that this this wizard saw

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01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>that they were full of the Holy Spirit. Now he

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01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>saw they were full of it. He didn't just say like, oh, Yo,

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01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>they you know, they're no, you can when someone's full

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01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:32.239
<v Speaker 2>of the Holy Spirit, it's a visible thing. There's something there,

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01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and man, I want that. Man, I think we all

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01:30:35.680 --> 01:30:38.439
<v Speaker 2>should want that. And it shows it right there in

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01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>acts they're full of the Holy Spirit. They could see it.

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01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>The Holy Spirit spoke to them. And it's just something

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01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:46.119
<v Speaker 2>that we just need to keep pushing into and just

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01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:51.359
<v Speaker 2>keep learning because man, and actually even that Simon guy

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01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:56.119
<v Speaker 2>he got I think it was Peter Peter uh kind

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01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:58.119
<v Speaker 2>of came at him after because that Simon said, whatever

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01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:01.439
<v Speaker 2>it costs, I will buy that power to be that power.

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01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:05.920
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I mean he spurned him and said, no,

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01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that's not how this works. But man, I just it

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01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>blows me away the way that you can visibly see

1729
01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:16.399
<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit. And I like to think, you know,

1730
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I you know, you never know how somebody else sees you,

1731
01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>but I'd like to think that when somebody sees me,

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01:31:23.039 --> 01:31:29.760
<v Speaker 2>they see somebody who who follows God, somebody who you know,

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01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>has a desire to follow what God's telling him to do.

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01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I hope that people see that in me, and and

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01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:40.239
<v Speaker 2>if not, I have a whole lot of work to do.

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01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:42.479
<v Speaker 2>And if they do, I still have a whole lot

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01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:44.119
<v Speaker 2>of work to do, but the whole point is we

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01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:45.439
<v Speaker 2>keep pushing forward.

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01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Which my only regret, and it's kind of like a

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01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:53.479
<v Speaker 1>PTPD thing. Our last speaker of the night was David Hevner.

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01:31:55.039 --> 01:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>We skipped out on that one and guilty is charged. Uh.

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01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>We took our dinner break and went to a place

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01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to eat, you know again. And the Tennessee game was

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01:32:07.960 --> 01:32:11.199
<v Speaker 1>like in the final quarter and if anybody you know

1745
01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:13.479
<v Speaker 1>watched that game new with a nail biter, that was

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01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:17.119
<v Speaker 1>so it's like, I We're gonna stay and see this

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<v Speaker 1>to the.

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<v Speaker 3>End, especially as close as it was.

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01:32:20.039 --> 01:32:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean I looked over at Kesha and I was like,

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01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Alabama just lost, you know, mister field goal. I said,

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01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:33.640
<v Speaker 3>what's the chances of us missing ours? Too? I was like,

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01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:35.800
<v Speaker 3>And then when it kind of did that little.

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01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Wobble that knuckleball, Yeah, I was like, what's crazy. It's like,

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01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact, you know, when they finally

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01:32:49.399 --> 01:32:52.159
<v Speaker 1>got you know, in range and there was two seconds left,

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01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, my hands folded. I was like, oh god, please,

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01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, Davie, And that's what I'm getting. That was like,

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01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, tenn Seeson, you know in the Bible, bell

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01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And I sitting there, I

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01:33:05.800 --> 01:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, please, God, give give David one, Goliath, you know,

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01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:13.439
<v Speaker 1>give the little guy one. Come on, God, please, you know,

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01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and UH ended up winning you on. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I wasn't the only one. I mean, I

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01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>say every Tennessee fan that was what was praying at

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01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the same time. And I swear I think divine intervention happened.

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01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Now hear me out, hear me out. You shake it, smile.

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01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't think God cares who wins the fun, No.

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01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:40.119
<v Speaker 1>He don't. But the prayers of a righteous man avail

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01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:43.279
<v Speaker 1>us much. And we're two or more gathered in my name,

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01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I will be there. That's what scripture tells us. Okay,

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01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>here's what I'm getting at the next day, it was

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01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>in the news. The earth shook. Look it up. There

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01:33:56.039 --> 01:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was seismic activity at the exact time when Alabama missed

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01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>their field goal and when we made the field goal.

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01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:06.239
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Coincidence. Maybe I think.

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01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>That it's because it's such a big stadium. Everybody's jumping

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01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:13.520
<v Speaker 2>up and down. I think that's probably what.

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01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't you do supernaturalize?

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01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm gonna d do you supernaturalize the

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01:34:21.600 --> 01:34:22.319
<v Speaker 2>football game?

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01:34:22.399 --> 01:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we'll pray for Ben. We'll pray for him.

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01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll always pray for God.

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01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>God intervened for the little guy.

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01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:33.000
<v Speaker 3>It was that sound, you know, moving stuff with sounds.

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01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and the word was God.

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01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Boom ye go big orange all day every day. You

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01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:48.119
<v Speaker 1>guys keep digging and go big orange.

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01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for listening to the Dig Bible Podcast. Questions, comments,

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01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>or future episode ideas and we'd love to hear from you.

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01:34:56.640 --> 01:34:59.600
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1793
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01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:09.479
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