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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Ben and I'm Nicole and you're listening to Wicked.

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<v Speaker 1>And Grim, a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Warning.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast contains content and material intended for a

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<v Speaker 1>mature audience listener discretion.

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<v Speaker 2>You ready for this?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for what?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to crack open a drink?

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<v Speaker 1>Crack it?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to see if we can hear it on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast? Ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep? That was very anti climax.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually really bad at opening cans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you are why.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's like hard?

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<v Speaker 1>What about it is hard? Like what's difficult?

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting my finger under the underneath the tab? Is that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>The tab? I'm like, what is that even called?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tab?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I need it. I need a drink. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a day. It's been a day kind of day.

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<v Speaker 2>Like busy af like being an adult, shit kind of day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then, yeah, a drink is good. I'm drinking water,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're being responsible. Well, it's not that I'm being responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>Is if I have a whiskey or beer sitting here,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't drink it whenever I'm presenting a case because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always talking, I know, and when I'm like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to drink and talk the same. It's just disaster. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've got water that I can sip on whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>get caught in milk and hit my mic with it.

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<v Speaker 2>No winning here, no winning at.

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<v Speaker 1>All, no note at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I hope everyone else has grabbed their drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, sit back, chill this, have a drink,

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<v Speaker 1>have a good time, listen to some some horror stories

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<v Speaker 1>of gruesome death.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is people, some shit. Listen to some shit

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<v Speaker 2>in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite the vibe. Drinks and shitty situations and murder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah people. Actually, we get messages often though, where people

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<v Speaker 2>are like say that listening to us is just like

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<v Speaker 2>chilling with friends and having a bruski or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. It's a good vibe. I really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so so come have a drink with us. Friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, I know, we're like mister dress Up or

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<v Speaker 1>like mister Rogers, but the alcoholic versions with murder and.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit more exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're pretty exciting. What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Mister dress Up had his tickle trunk. That's exciting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a while, mister Tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't remember stuff like no as well as

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<v Speaker 2>you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Get Chester. The crow Chester was a cool dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I remember liking mister dress Up though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, anyway, good times, good times.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, move on, let's move.

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<v Speaker 1>On, let's put to what the move on? Should we

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<v Speaker 1>get right into the case or are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about anything else?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have absolutely no idea anything about

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah you don't, because I didn't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You a shit. You told me Jack All.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, everyone else is gonna know if they checked out Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>because as soon as we drop an episode, we always

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<v Speaker 1>dropped the little info thing on Instagram with a photo

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. This is being recorded before that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing you know is the image I dropped the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, which was like what yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I know what everyone else now? So thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, because right now they're listening, and they know more.

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<v Speaker 1>You're actually listening. Prior to them listening, you know less.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got a whole whatever amount of hours before pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Much because we're recording this like the day before we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, okay, yeah, we we tend to be okay sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>but like life's just a little busy right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are recording this. It's supposed to be posted

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<v Speaker 1>in what three hours?

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<v Speaker 2>Three hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Three hours before its supposed to be posted. You know

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<v Speaker 1>nothing of the case. You're starting like literally knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>a girl wants to go back to land and that's

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<v Speaker 1>all you've got.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was just gonna say, we're still getting it done.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting it done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're not holding this off. We're we go pushing

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<v Speaker 1>it off a day, although there might come a time

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<v Speaker 1>because we're pushing it off later later.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I said that earlier. I was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>cauld it get much later.

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<v Speaker 1>Than this, But we're getting it done.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week I was actually real good. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like ready ahead of time for like the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I've pushed this like really later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you made the record now, so we'll see if

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<v Speaker 2>either one of us can.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna break the record next episode. I'm talking like

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<v Speaker 1>uploading at midnight, not scheduling that upload, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Just hitting upload. Yeah, okay, let's not do that. No

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think so anyway, I'm ready. I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 2>sit my drink.

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<v Speaker 1>And be entertained here, so you're going to be entertained.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk a story that's entertaining to us, but

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not entertaining to Terry Joe dup Alt.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is are?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say star, but she's definitely who

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about and her point of view? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for this?

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<v Speaker 2>I am ready.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was nineteen sixty one and a gentleman by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of This is a Greek name, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and say it properly, but I'm gonna butcher.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's Nicholas spatcha Dacus. I think is how you

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<v Speaker 1>say his last name, Nicholas Spockadacas, Nicholas. It was Nicholas.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen sixty one, Nicholas was a second officer

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<v Speaker 1>of the Greek freighter Captain theo He had been scanning

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<v Speaker 1>the waters of the Northwest Province Channel, a strait of

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<v Speaker 1>water through the islands of the Bahamas, when something caught

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<v Speaker 1>his eye. Between thousands of tiny flashes of white caps

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<v Speaker 1>out in the ocean, there was one speck that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>flashing like the rest. Now white cap just so everyone

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you a recap on a white cap,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna drop some bars at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>because I rhyme every time. I'm a polletent. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know it. Okay, I'm going to stop that now. So

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<v Speaker 1>a white cap is the tip of a wave. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the turbulent water that turns white as it crashes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it settles quickly back into the water as it

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<v Speaker 1>flows into a continual wave and goes again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Very calming effect, very much so, except that white cap

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<v Speaker 1>is the non calming effect. It's the turbulent part of

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<v Speaker 1>the calm.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this white speck wasn't doing that. It was steady,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not settling back into the ocean. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just there. Okay, So what is it among hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>other boats in this channel? Nicholas focused in on this

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<v Speaker 1>single dot and realized it was too large to be

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of debris and too small to be another boat.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it a body?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're gonna find out, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were going to just tell me right away.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he alerted the CA and they decided they put

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<v Speaker 1>the freighter on a course towards the speck. As they

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<v Speaker 1>grew closer, they were shocked to discover a little blonde

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<v Speaker 1>hair girl floating by herself in a small, inflatable life boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, yeah, I actually like alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't expect that, okay. In the little boat.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the crew members took a picture of her sitting, so, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she's alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I might have had it a little farther

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<v Speaker 1>down those building suspense, But no, she's alive. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the crew members took a picture of her sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the life raft. And life raft was

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<v Speaker 1>about two and a half feet by five feet long,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's pretty small, and she's looking up the vessel,

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<v Speaker 1>up to the vessel that just saved her life. This

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<v Speaker 1>image is like, is a major iconic image now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>made headlines worldwide when this first occurred, including a front

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<v Speaker 1>page on Life magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to share the image?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, that's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sweet, okay, I can't wait to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the captain quickly called out orders to stop the engines,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and put a small raft board to rescue

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<v Speaker 1>the little girl. And the men quickly lashed together some

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<v Speaker 1>empty oil drums together as a raft because their lifeboats

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<v Speaker 1>were too large, right, Like, if they were to get overboard,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just gonna be too clumsy, you take too long,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that sort of thing. So quickly lash some

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<v Speaker 1>oil bills barrels together. There we go. Okay, So I

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<v Speaker 1>got to her quickly. And it's not known exactly why

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find any facts on this, but the captain

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<v Speaker 1>shouted for them to hurry at one point, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>believed because he saw sharks in the water. Ah believed

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find facts.

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<v Speaker 2>That's terrifying. Yeah, that's why I'm like, actually a little

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<v Speaker 2>sketch showed by the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>But keep going, Well, there's there's some crazy shit.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like if it was sharks, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>could be attracted by the commotion her legs in the

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<v Speaker 1>water maybe, And she was in pretty rough shape, like

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<v Speaker 1>her skin was obviously raw from the sunburn and the

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<v Speaker 1>salt water, and there's a real possibility of her blood

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<v Speaker 1>being in the water and attracting sharks. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like this is like, oh my god, sharks, it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a potential of a real possibility, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So a crew member quickly made the oil barrel raft

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<v Speaker 1>over to her and lifted the girl aboard. She fell

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<v Speaker 1>limp onto the deck of the vessel immediately. Her lips

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<v Speaker 1>were puffy, skin was sunburnt and raw. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>she was severely dehydrated, had sunken in cheeks, and bleached

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<v Speaker 1>hair almost white by the tropical sun. Wow, she was

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<v Speaker 1>in shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see how old she is?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I did yet. She's about eleven years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my poor thing. Yeah, that's terrifying. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're getting into it, so just just settle down

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. We got this. We just go with the flow. Drink,

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<v Speaker 1>drink exactly. So crew member tried to help her stand,

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<v Speaker 1>but her legs buckled. The captain tried to get her

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<v Speaker 1>to talk, but she was unresponsive, and kept coaxing her,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get information from her, and eventually he did

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<v Speaker 1>she was quickly evacuated by air to hospital. And even

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<v Speaker 1>though all we know is that she's a girl lost

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<v Speaker 1>days earlier who was at sea, a forty four year

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<v Speaker 2>What that deck is going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>What the.

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<v Speaker 1>He told investigators that a small sudden storm brought down

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<v Speaker 1>the Bluebell's masts and the Blue Bell the boat was

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<v Speaker 1>about a sixty foot two masked sailboat. So he said

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<v Speaker 1>that it brought down the masts and it ruptured the

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<v Speaker 1>hull and the gas tanks began to leak and started

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<v Speaker 1>a fire. Most of the crew on board, being Terry's family,

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<v Speaker 1>were trapped inside the cabin underneath the masts colloused, so

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<v Speaker 1>he said, the boat went down and sank. Everyone on

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<v Speaker 1>made his escape. As he was making his escape, he

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<v Speaker 1>found Renee floating in the water and tried to revive her,

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<v Speaker 1>but was unsuccessful, and an autopsy later showed that Renee

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<v Speaker 1>did in fact die of drowning. Okay, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not too sure how to say this without telling

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<v Speaker 1>coastguards and everything like that, and literally like right at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this, like it's very like cinematic, like

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<v Speaker 1>that dramatic moment where like the loose ends are all

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping up sort of thing, and someone bursts in the door,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like at a wedding, like does anyone object to this?

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<v Speaker 1>Then someone comes in I object like that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like right at the end of him like talking with

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<v Speaker 1>these these people, someone bursts into the conference room that

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<v Speaker 1>they're in and was like, we found another survivor. Terry's alive.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so he didn't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Know he didn't far as he knew, he was the only.

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<v Speaker 2>Survivor, and then Terry's sister, but she had died.

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<v Speaker 1>She had drowned, so he'd stammered like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>When he heard the news, he exclaimed like that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>one wonderfult, like this is wonderful news. This little girl

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<v Speaker 1>just survived, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>However, the next day, Julian Harvey was found in his

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room dead. He had committed suicide by cutting his thighs, ankles,

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<v Speaker 1>and throat with the razor.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh gross. That gave me instant shivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, over the course of the next eleven days, Terry

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<v Speaker 1>Joe made a full recovery in hospital. Huh, so, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think is going down? I'm going to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stop there and see if you've got any speculations

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because I never catch on though, Like there'sn't even

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<v Speaker 2>like big hints you've given and I'm just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Not at a Oh so you've caught on that they're

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<v Speaker 2>Well not until after the real thing comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I thought you were saying you already heard big

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<v Speaker 2>No, I feel like I have absolutely no idea. What's

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<v Speaker 2>going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what exactly happened on board the Bluebell, like, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't exactly know, but through Harry's accounts and the work

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<v Speaker 1>of investigators, we do have a story put together on

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<v Speaker 1>what is believed to have happened. And it's it's, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as we can say, pretty accurate because Terry was there,

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<v Speaker 1>but she didn't waitness everything, right, So okay, so Terry's

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<v Speaker 1>this goes back a little bit here. Terry's father, Arthur Dupraldt,

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<v Speaker 1>always dreamed of taking his family out on the open

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<v Speaker 1>sea for an adventure. He was an optometrist and spent

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<v Speaker 1>several years saving up his hard earned income to take

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<v Speaker 1>his family out on sea to explore exotic islands. By

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one, he saved up enough to take his

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<v Speaker 1>family out on the vacation they deserved. Nice, right, we

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<v Speaker 1>all dream of that, Yeah, get away from the nine

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<v Speaker 1>to five.

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<v Speaker 2>The hawsome bustle.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So the family was originally from Green Bay, Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 1>which which certainly isn't like a warm, exotic place by

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that seventies show they're out in Wisconsin. Oh, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're always like bundled up and stuff, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>like how flannels wearing flannels lots. I like how that's

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<v Speaker 1>my reference for that geography, that genotical area.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So like literally, like like every other family out there,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, we want to go travel somewhere exotic,

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<v Speaker 1>get away, somewhere warm, relax, have an adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that sounds awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do that. Can we do that?

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<v Speaker 2>I would do anything to do that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So the rest of the fen well, I mean, COVID

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<v Speaker 1>is going to hold us back for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>But exactly, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So the rest of the family was made up of

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<v Speaker 1>Terry's mother, Jean Duperoult, her brother Brian, who was fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and her sister Renee, who was seven years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Their destination was the Bahamas. They wanted to reach. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just like brain farted in that sentence. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to reach the islands of the Bahamas in

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<v Speaker 1>a nice ship. So they want to sail that whole way. Awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, right, It's got like just like Pirates

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<v Speaker 1>of the Caribbean, just like an epic adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So they made their way from Green Bay, Wisconsin to

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Lauderdale, Florida, where they met up with Julian Harvey,

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<v Speaker 1>who was an old friend of Arthur, and his wife Denay,

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<v Speaker 1>who joined them for the cruise. She was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like the cook and everything, and Julian Harvey was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the skipper of the vessel skippers an

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<v Speaker 1>informal term for captain. Okay, I didn't know that. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to google that.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea either. You're not alone, so.

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<v Speaker 1>We know now. So he was going to skipper the

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<v Speaker 1>vessel on that vessel that they rented was the Blue Belt, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So he would sail the ship, and he had many

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<v Speaker 1>years of experienced sailing. Julian was a World War Two

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<v Speaker 1>veteran who seemed trustworthy in his history and everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was very well versed at sea. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>some like the perfect person to turn to. So on

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<v Speaker 1>November eighth, nineteen sixty one, they set sail for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bahamas from Fort Lauderdale.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question, sorry, hit me up. Is this

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<v Speaker 2>is the Friends of the Father? Sorry? I think I

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<v Speaker 2>might have missed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's not like they know each other really well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, hey, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy, and he had needs for a cook and

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<v Speaker 2>a captain and worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, He's like, we need someone to be to take

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<v Speaker 1>us there in a ship. We don't know how to sail.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh, great, I can do that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And my wife, you know, she can cook. So you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can have your little adventure and great holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Boom.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's probably not what they should have done,

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<v Speaker 2>but there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we're about to find out because during the voyage

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<v Speaker 1>on the evening of November twelfth, Denay Julian's wife was

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<v Speaker 1>preparing dinner chicken catchatory in fact, which was the last

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<v Speaker 1>meal ever served on the Blue Belt.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Around nine pm, Terry Joe headed below deck to her

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping quarters, which was a small little cabin located at

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the boat, and ordinarily her sister, Renee

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<v Speaker 1>would sleep there with her in the bunk, but that night,

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<v Speaker 1>her younger sister remained with her parents and brother on

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<v Speaker 1>deck in the cockpit. Okay, I couldn't find out why,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the middle of the night, Terry Joe was

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<v Speaker 1>startled awake by her brother yelling help, daddy help.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, yeah, this is where shiit, this is where

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<v Speaker 2>it goes. Oh no, you don't want to hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>Eh See, that's terrifying. You don't want to being stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the ocean and needing help.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nowhere to run. Yeah, it's you can't run. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>See, so many people have vacation on like cruise ships,

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<v Speaker 2>like and I'm talking like pre COVID and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actually think that even interests me remotely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not so much for me. But then again, where

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<v Speaker 1>like we go out camping in the middle of like

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<v Speaker 1>northern well not northern Canadian but like central northern Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>forests where there's bears roaming around.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would choose that any day.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you if something goes wrong, just say, for

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<v Speaker 1>the same sake, say there's some that's true mass incident

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<v Speaker 1>that happens or occurs of stuff too. Yeah, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? Run into the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, into your trailer or your vehicle. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not much different than staying aboard the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, So she heard those screams and She also briefly

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<v Speaker 1>heard running in stamping noises and then silence.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit.

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<v Speaker 1>She laid in her bed terrified, and after about five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes she quietly made her way out of the cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for her to get up and go check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just so you guys know, because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>do this every episode, but whenever I can, I try

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<v Speaker 1>and name a bad ass of the day. Terry Joe

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<v Speaker 1>is she's bad ass of the day here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, being that little and actually getting out of bed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's impressible alone.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes through a lot. So when she exited her cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>she saw her mother and brother lying in a pool

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<v Speaker 1>of blood in the main cabin next to hers, and

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<v Speaker 1>instantly she knew they were dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>She kept going though slowly. Terry Joe climbed the stairs

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<v Speaker 1>and peeked out of the hatch. She saw more blood,

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<v Speaker 1>and as she climbed her way out of the stairs

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<v Speaker 1>onto the deck, she was met with Captain Julian Harvey,

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<v Speaker 1>who shoved her back down the stairs and shouted, get

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<v Speaker 1>back down there.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, freg So, I think you can kind of see

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<v Speaker 4>where this is going a little bit, but trust me,

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<v Speaker 4>you still don't know what actually happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like hell on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>He let's see. Oh, oh, maybe we should name that

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<v Speaker 1>episode this hell. Let see hell, let's see. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't that might get flagged. I don't know, we'll see.

431
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<v Speaker 1>I still, I don't even know if I've thought about

432
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<v Speaker 1>a title for this episode yet. We'll figure that out.

433
00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:58.440
<v Speaker 1>We let's keep going with the story now, okay. Not

434
00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:02.279
<v Speaker 1>knowing what else to do, tearry Joe avoided looking at

435
00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:05.359
<v Speaker 1>her mum and brother as she walked past and crawled

436
00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:08.319
<v Speaker 1>back into her bunk in her cabin alone. Good lord,

437
00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:12.839
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't there long before she heard the sound of

438
00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:17.039
<v Speaker 1>water sloshing around, and her cabin slowly began to fill

439
00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>up with said water.

440
00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:21.000
<v Speaker 2>The frig again.

441
00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Realized the ship was sinking, but she was too afraid.

442
00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:25.519
<v Speaker 1>She didn't move.

443
00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:31.279
<v Speaker 3>Because this asshole told her, oh, I'll just wait, because

444
00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:36.240
<v Speaker 3>the next thing she saw, Julian the captain was standing

445
00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:39.200
<v Speaker 3>in her doorway, and he had something in his hand.

446
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.279
<v Speaker 2>To kill her, to finish her off, probably.

447
00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.000
<v Speaker 1>But just as quickly as he appeared, he turned around

448
00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and disappeared up the stairs again. So once again she's

449
00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:52.640
<v Speaker 1>left sitting there in her bed.

450
00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:54.599
<v Speaker 2>This guy's a weirdo.

451
00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:58.839
<v Speaker 1>But again, by now the water's starting to flow up

452
00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and she's got water coming over the top of her bed.

453
00:22:01.799 --> 00:22:02.480
<v Speaker 1>She has to move.

454
00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:06.599
<v Speaker 2>She can't stay the freaking tear that she must have, so.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Wading through the water waist deep through her room, she

456
00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:13.200
<v Speaker 1>climbed the stairs back to the top deck again, and

457
00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:15.440
<v Speaker 1>when she reached the top deck, she shouted, is the

458
00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:23.359
<v Speaker 1>ship sinking? Julian, from right behind her, responded yes. He

459
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>shoved a rope into her hands and said, hold this,

460
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:29.799
<v Speaker 1>but through the fear and the coldness, with all the

461
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:33.599
<v Speaker 1>water and the night. I mean, yeah, you're in tropic areas,

462
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>but you're in the middle of the ocean. It's cold.

463
00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:39.160
<v Speaker 1>She lost her grip and dropped the rope. She realized

464
00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.799
<v Speaker 1>quickly that the rope was connected to the to a

465
00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>raft at the other end, and now that she dropped

466
00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the rope, that raft was drifting away. Julian quickly dove

467
00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>in the water and swam after the raft into the darkness,

468
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:59.599
<v Speaker 1>leaving her on the ship sinking alone. Imagine being eleven

469
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>years old seeing your family butchered on a sinking ship

470
00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:07.519
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the ocean, the.

471
00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Middle of nowhere. That is just like the worst thing ever.

472
00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Thankfully, Terry is a quick thinker. She remembered her dad

473
00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>showing her another life raft that was lashed to the

474
00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:20.720
<v Speaker 1>side of the ship.

475
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:23.079
<v Speaker 2>She's smart, hey, it is.

476
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<v Speaker 1>She immediately ran over and thankfully it wasn't underwater yet.

477
00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:31.000
<v Speaker 1>She immediately ran over and began untying it, and she

478
00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>managed to get it and tied just in time because

479
00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:36.119
<v Speaker 1>her feet were no longer supporting her underneath her, the

480
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.039
<v Speaker 1>ship was because she got it untied.

481
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Go, Terry, go.

482
00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:45.119
<v Speaker 1>So she climbed onto this little floaty dingy raft thing

483
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:47.079
<v Speaker 1>that is, like I said, it's like two and a

484
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:52.279
<v Speaker 1>half feet by five feet long. Yeah, And the ship

485
00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>was sinking underneath her.

486
00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:56.480
<v Speaker 2>It was gone, Bragg and her family's all on there.

487
00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>But as it was sinking beneath her, a line on

488
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:04.079
<v Speaker 1>the raft caught the boat, and she and the raft

489
00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:09.079
<v Speaker 1>were pulled under for a moment, and by some fucking miracle,

490
00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it just let go and her and the raft pop

491
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>back up to the surface.

492
00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Thank god. Okay, I was like, how could this get

493
00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>any worse? But it did.

494
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I just does. Literally, everything just keeps fucking happening.

495
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Holy frick. That's actually a miracle.

496
00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So now she's left there alone, no boat, no family, no.

497
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Nothing, and I'm assuming her dad's just like dead on

498
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:37.559
<v Speaker 2>the boat because she didn't see him, right, Yes, Okay.

499
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.759
<v Speaker 1>So she immediately like huddled low in this little raft,

500
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.559
<v Speaker 1>like afraid that the captain might be coming back for

501
00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.079
<v Speaker 1>her or something. Yeah, and she's just left there in

502
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the dark. She has no water, no food in the

503
00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:51.880
<v Speaker 1>middle of the ocean.

504
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.880
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that it's nighttime, i'de like makes it

505
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 2>just like even more nightmarish.

506
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's actually a little bit worse than you

507
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>even think because the raft she was on it wasn't

508
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:06.279
<v Speaker 1>meant for like prolonged use, So it was like it

509
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>was like this, like the best way to describe it

510
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>is it's like this ring of flotation, right, and then

511
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 1>in the middle it's just like a net. So she's

512
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 1>literally sitting in.

513
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.400
<v Speaker 2>The water seriously.

514
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Ah, And it wasn't meant for prolonged use. It

515
00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:28.039
<v Speaker 1>was just meant to get to safety real quick, yeah,

516
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>which means it was also deteriorating very fast. So over

517
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:35.799
<v Speaker 1>the next eighty four hours that she spent alone in

518
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the ocean, this raft was slowly falling apart.

519
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that is just too much.

520
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>It was at four days.

521
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say, yeap three and a half

522
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:46.599
<v Speaker 2>days or whatever.

523
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>So through the night, through the beating hot sun, which

524
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>was approximately around that time eighty five degrees fahrenheit, which

525
00:25:54.200 --> 00:26:00.160
<v Speaker 1>is about thirty degrees celsius, she just sat there drifting.

526
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Holy crap. Well, she's fearing that this raft is just

527
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna like be done.

528
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So throughout her waiting and drifting, the sun's beaten

529
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 1>on her. She's getting sun burnt, I mean salt water,

530
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:20.640
<v Speaker 1>she's just getting rubbed. Raw. Parrotfish would actually frequently come

531
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>up and biteed her as well, giving her scratches and

532
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.559
<v Speaker 1>bite marks and everything, making it all the worse.

533
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that is.

534
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:32.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like a tropical fish. It's like, I don't know,

535
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>they're bout the size of a cat or small dog. Yeah.

536
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 2>See that sounds horrible.

537
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>And I looked them up and they've almost got like

538
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:42.799
<v Speaker 1>this like beak like teeth, so I'm pretty sure like

539
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 1>it would hurt, it would pinch pretty good.

540
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh.

541
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. On day two, a small red plane actually circled

542
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:53.279
<v Speaker 1>overhead and she watched it and wave for it, and

543
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the plane eventually actually passed directly over her, but the

544
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>pilots never saw her.

545
00:26:58.079 --> 00:26:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Really.

546
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Apparently, it was actually close enough that she could read

547
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.039
<v Speaker 1>the labels on the side of the plane, but the

548
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:09.759
<v Speaker 1>angle that it was at, pilots couldn't see her. Dang,

549
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>she was like right underneath it and they just couldn't

550
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 1>see her.

551
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>So you watch movies and stuffhere people almost get saved,

552
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like they're probably just so hopeful and

553
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.759
<v Speaker 2>then it just passes by.

554
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And like I said at the very beginning, she's this

555
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>white speck in the ocean, right just mixed in with

556
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>thousands of other white.

557
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Specks, just like very hard to really tell her.

558
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the only reason that she was spotted originally was

559
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>because that speck didn't flash.

560
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Like the rest, which is amazing actually of those people,

561
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, because lots of people would pride, is like whatever.

562
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So through the glare the sun causing her eyes

563
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:47.319
<v Speaker 1>severe pain, like the glare off the water. She got

564
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>severe pain in her eyes, her muscles ached, her skin

565
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 1>burnt through her blouse and her pants, she was burning,

566
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Her lips were rough, swollen, her tongue was swollen. Through

567
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>all this though, she said, she was never thirsty or hungry, really,

568
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how, just adrenaline or something, just powering through.

569
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

570
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>And since the bottom of this thing was just this

571
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>mesh that was falling apart, for the most time, she

572
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>actually balanced on the edge of the raft as much

573
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>as she could. She even began to actually hallucinate multiple times.

574
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>And at one point she saw a deserted island and

575
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>she tried to paddle towards it, but it just disappeared.

576
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, oh no.

577
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 1>There was however, I think it was on day three

578
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>she saw large dark shadows in the water beneath her.

579
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm kind of done with this story. This is

580
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>just too much. I'm already afraid of the ocean. But okay.

581
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.039
<v Speaker 1>And it turned out to be orca whales.

582
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. I thought it was gonna be like.

583
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Which Orcas are very dangerous. First of all, right.

584
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>They are too, aren't they?

585
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.319
<v Speaker 1>But I guess, she said, she felt very calmed by them,

586
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 1>and they just kind of hung around her for hours.

587
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of kept her company almost so she

588
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 1>almost felt like that was like, I don't know, a

589
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:05.279
<v Speaker 1>good thing good.

590
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 2>They almost could have been like protecting her from something.

591
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they could have been who knows.

592
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

593
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>So eventually though, she did fall unconscious and the next

594
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>time she would wake up, she'd be confronted by a huge,

595
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>shadowy wall, and as she looked up to the top

596
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 1>she would see people. She could faintly hear voices and shouting,

597
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and she was finally saved after eighty four hours in

598
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the ocean.

599
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh good for her. I don't know if I would

600
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:36.839
<v Speaker 2>have been able to last that long. That's impressive.

601
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I.

602
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Know I would be done.

603
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is amazing.

604
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 1>So, like I said, she did make a full recovery,

605
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and she has wrote written a book which I'll put

606
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 1>a link down in the description down below. It did

607
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 1>take her a while to be able to come out

608
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>with us because, like back then, a lot of it

609
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, just suppress whatever you're feeling, don't talk

610
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>about shit. So she did eventually start talking about things,

611
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and she has come up with this book, like I said,

612
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>linked down below. I haven't read it yet. I want

613
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 1>to read it. I wish I left myself enough time

614
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to read it before doing this episode. But so that's

615
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>her point of view. Now, what the investigators discovered is

616
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a little not different. But it's a lot more on

617
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>why this happened and what had happened while she was

618
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>not watching, sort of thing.

619
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Between the adults or whatever.

620
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So investigators were already suspicious of Julian before he

621
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>ended his life. Like I said, he was in that

622
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 1>conference room when he learned of Terry Joe being alive. Right, Okay,

623
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>They were interrogating him. They were asking him questions. The

624
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 1>way the ship sunk didn't make sense because he said

625
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 1>it was this sudden storm that blew over the masts.

626
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>A sudden small storm wasn't recorded as far as they knew,

627
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 1>the mass wouldn't have taken out the ship the way

628
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 1>it was. Just a lot of things weren't making sense,

629
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 1>especially from someone in an experienced position like Qubos.

630
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, not only that.

631
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 1>In his life raft he had flares, but he never

632
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 1>used them. And he was asked why I never used

633
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the flares, and he's like, oh, I was in the

634
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the safety kit. I just never thought of it.

635
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>An experienced World War two veteran experience to see, like really.

636
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, and you got some time on your hands, I

637
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.279
<v Speaker 2>think you'd be looking through that boat.

638
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And when they searched the wreckage area. They never

639
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>found the boat or anything like that. As far as

640
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 1>I can tell, I don't think the Bluebells ever being

641
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>found to this day. I literally like googled hours on

642
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that I could not find an ounce of it being found.

643
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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. So see, that's another thing that freaks me out

644
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 2>is there's all these like shipwrecks and stuff, and they

645
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<v Speaker 2>try to find it in some Yeah.

646
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that they've probably by now got like radar.

647
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 1>We're pretty sure that's it down there, you know, Yeah,

648
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 1>you'd think so. Anyways, they were extremely suspicious of them,

649
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>especially when they were like getting into a little bit

650
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>more of his history and some of his history that

651
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about right now. He's been a

652
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>part of a few other questionable boating accidents really, yes,

653
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 1>where he'd actually made away with quite quite a bit

654
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>of insurance money.

655
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh this asshole.

656
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Oh it's getting worse here, hold on, as

657
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>well as a car accident where a past wife and

658
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>mother in law had actually died and he made way

659
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>with quite the lump sum of insurance money. Again. In fact,

660
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Denay his wife was Julian's sixth wife.

661
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, Hey, that's quite a. That's a quite high up

662
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 2>their number.

663
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I believe they were only married for about

664
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>four or five months. I couldn't find an exact number.

665
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 1>It was varying a bit, but they were only together

666
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like a short amount of time. And shortly before taking

667
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>this voyage, Julian took a life insurance policy with denay

668
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.559
<v Speaker 1>worth twenty thousand dollars, which is approximately two hundred thousand

669
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 1>dollars by today's value. Of course he did, yeah, right,

670
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>So what investigators believed happen is they believed Julian planned

671
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to kill his wife out on the open ocean in

672
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:16.359
<v Speaker 1>the evening of the cruise and then in the morning

673
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>claim that there was an incident where she fell overboard

674
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't able to save her, and you know,

675
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>so on so forth. The family's none the wiser, He

676
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 1>collects insurance money, they move on, everyone's happy. However, didn't

677
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:35.039
<v Speaker 1>go that way. What did happen, they believe, is that

678
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the Duperyl family overheard him trying to commit the act

679
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 1>and now.

680
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Caught and tried to savor her.

681
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now caught red handed, decided every witness must go,

682
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and he's going to sink the evidence good lord. Yep,

683
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>what why he let Terry Joe live is still a

684
00:33:58.440 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 1>bit of a question.

685
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Yea interesting actually, But I mean I think he might

686
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 2>have just thought she would have died.

687
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what Terry says. She believes that he just

688
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>thought she was going to go down with the ship

689
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 1>and die, right and clearly by his reaction, because like

690
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>in that interrogation when he learnt of it, it was

691
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 1>not like a he was happy. It was an obvious

692
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:22.199
<v Speaker 1>like taken aback. So clearly he did think she was dead.

693
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 1>But why wouldn't he have just killed her? Because he

694
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>stood in her doorway with something in her in his hand.

695
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 1>M he had an intent at that moment. I guarantee

696
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:32.679
<v Speaker 1>that's what he was standing there for.

697
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this little girl just had something watching

698
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>over her, something something as.

699
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>She went through Helen high Water.

700
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 3>Well.

701
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fact that she lived all of this is

702
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:50.079
<v Speaker 2>just like a miracle. Yeah, it's incredible, really is huh?

703
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's the story of the Bluebell and Terry Joe Duperole.

704
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Wow, he would an asshole that guy too, because like

705
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 2>one oh one, like, don't pull out an insurance money

706
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 2>or policy before you're about to murder someone right, like,

707
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:07.719
<v Speaker 2>are you dumb?

708
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Do it at least a year in advance?

709
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, like you got to plan this shitt a

710
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>bit better time, Like what a dumb ass?

711
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Right?

712
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I feel like anyone would know that shit. But anyway, okay,

713
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 2>so is this is she still alive?

714
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>She is? Yeah?

715
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Wow?

716
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 2>How old would she be? Now? You probably don't know.

717
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't look up her current age. Well, in nineteen

718
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>sixty one, she was eleven the so what is that

719
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>by now?

720
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 2>We already know we're bad at math? Here seventy something?

721
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I think she's yeah, seventy four. Yeah, or's no, seventy two.

722
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, somewhere in your seventies early seventies. I

723
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want a math while I'm talking and drinking water.

724
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>That's too much to do.

725
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>It's too hard.

726
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

727
00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Wow. I really want to know more about her. I

728
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like I need to read this book or something.

729
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 1>I want to read the BOOKI.

730
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 2>There should be like a movie or something out about

731
00:35:58.599 --> 00:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>her about I think.

732
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 1>There's a few movies based on the story, but I

733
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think that it's like exactly on the story. It's

734
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 1>like loosely based on where they like take the idea

735
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of a murder at seeing a sinking boat and being lost,

736
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's about as connected as it gets. I think.

737
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I honestly that would make like an incredible movie though.

738
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely like super awesome.

739
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd freakin go and see that.

740
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, someone get on it, Go make a movie.

741
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Do it.

742
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Nicole wants to see it.

743
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I do.

744
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 1>By the time COVID's over, you might be able to

745
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>go to theaters.

746
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess you can't even go to movie theaters.

747
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I actually don't even know. I wasn't really a huge well,

748
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>our movie theaters kind of gross.

749
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Our movie theaters sucks. Yeah, if the owner of our

750
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>movie theater is listening right now, get your fucking shit together.

751
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, because I thought there would have been Reynolds or

752
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 2>something during COVID, but I don't know.

753
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>If there is no I I.

754
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Need they need he sheet, they need competition.

755
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we only have one movie theater in this small town,

756
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's they're just like, Okay, we're the only ones,

757
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>so we're not gonna do anything for upkeep for thirty years.

758
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, it's nasty. Yeah, there's probably like I don't know,

759
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the next pandemic is going to be starting in that

760
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>movie theater.

761
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 1>At that girls, I'm pretty sure that anyone who's attended

762
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 1>that movie theater is actually like immune to COVID. And

763
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure the first time I went there, I

764
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>put a piece of gum on the underside of one chair.

765
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it's still there.

766
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>It's probably still there. Oh my word. Okay, Well, on

767
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.119
<v Speaker 1>That note, makesure you guys stay wicked, Stay wicked.