Speaker 1: That's welcomeing out if we hear songbird right there. Hey,
Speaker 1: Kenny g there man, I'm here, Hey, thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on the show, and I want to talk about that
Speaker 1: song first, Songbird. The story that I get is you're
Speaker 1: getting ready to go out on Carson and you decided
Speaker 1: the last second, you know what, I'm going to switch
Speaker 1: from whatever song you had planned to Songbird. Do you
Speaker 1: think that maybe helped cantapault your career even further.
Speaker 2: I think that was a pivotal moment for sure, because
Speaker 2: of the Tonight Show. Back in the day, for you
Speaker 2: younger people, this was the only nationwide show that you
Speaker 2: could be on at nighttime. There wasn't a Letterman, there
Speaker 2: wasn't a Letto, there wasn't anything. There wasn't a Stephen Colbert,
Speaker 2: there wasn't nothing. So if you were on that show,
Speaker 2: that meant that you could reach the whole country. And
Speaker 2: they did not want me to play an instrumental. We
Speaker 2: had a song that had a singer and I was
Speaker 2: playing the solo with it, and that's what they wanted,
Speaker 2: and I switched him right at the very last minute
Speaker 2: because the show was live.
Speaker 1: That's what A did. So the Carson did he call
Speaker 1: you over to the couch, because there's two types of guess.
Speaker 1: If he really likes you, he'll call you over to
Speaker 1: the couch, and sometimes not so much. Did you get
Speaker 1: caught over to the couch.
Speaker 3: On that first performance? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I got the okay sign from Johnny okay. He probably
Speaker 2: had no idea about anything. But then when I went backstage,
Speaker 2: the guy that hired me just came in just screamed
Speaker 2: at me, like, how dare I come on the show
Speaker 2: and pull a fastood on him? And then I'm never
Speaker 2: ever going to be on his show or anyone show again.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: What he was livid, He was so and anyway, but
Speaker 2: I knew I did a good performance.
Speaker 3: So what happened was.
Speaker 2: That that the Johnny Carson guy he forgot that. The
Speaker 2: people in the world saw that, they reacted positively, and
Speaker 2: then six months later they called me to come back.
Speaker 3: On the show, and that time I got couch.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Kenny g our guest. By the way, Cat's
Speaker 1: Kenny g at the Louisville Palace Theater, talk about a
Speaker 1: good show. May fourteenth, right around the corner and before
Speaker 1: we get back in the interview, Kenny G. Just personally,
Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for one of the coolest,
Speaker 1: smoothest moments I've ever had. Oh boy, here it goes,
Speaker 1: try so try to get Kenny G on the on
Speaker 1: the show with as you Know. And so we started
Speaker 1: we started texting, going back and forth, and then the
Speaker 1: other night I said, honey, let's get in the hot tub.
Speaker 1: We'll have a couple of kilists listen to Kenny G.
Speaker 1: We're doing that, my phone goes off, which I never
Speaker 1: respond to when we're in the hot time. No, it's
Speaker 1: always just me and my wife and music, and she goes,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I said, hang on a second, honey,
Speaker 1: I got to return Kenny G's text one of the
Speaker 1: smoothest moves I've ever had. But it seems to me
Speaker 1: like you're incredibly ground at Kenny G. What was more
Speaker 1: important to you growing up was a family or kind
Speaker 1: of seeking fame?
Speaker 3: Oh no, No, I never thought about team at all.
Speaker 3: It was only family.
Speaker 2: And for me, it was just a dedication to it's
Speaker 2: getting good at something.
Speaker 3: I'm just that kind of guy.
Speaker 2: If I'm interested in something, I want to know why
Speaker 2: and how.
Speaker 3: It works, and then I want to know can.
Speaker 2: I well, of course I can get better at it
Speaker 2: because it just requires me to practice. And that was
Speaker 2: really all I thought about it, didn't think about anything.
Speaker 2: And as far as the fame and fortune comes, that's
Speaker 2: just a very very, you know, wonderful side effect of
Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, it just turns out that
Speaker 2: whatever instincts I have with music seem to connect with
Speaker 2: people around the world.
Speaker 3: And I'm just really lucky that what.
Speaker 2: I like also connects with people, because it could have
Speaker 2: just been the other way around. My music's different and
Speaker 2: people could have went, well, you know, it's different, we.
Speaker 3: Don't like it. But that wasn't the case, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1: Now, every time we have a rock star musician, whoever
Speaker 1: it might be on, mostly ten times out of ten
Speaker 1: if I say where did it all start, they always say,
Speaker 1: you know what, here's where it started. Ed Sullivan, the
Speaker 1: Beatles you started? Because are you were inspired? Unless I'm wrong?
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, you were inspired by the
Speaker 1: Ed Sullivan Show. But it wasn't the Beatles, right.
Speaker 3: That's correct. Yeah, it was literally was their generic or
Speaker 3: what I thought was just it was just a big band.
Speaker 3: So I don't know who was the guest there. Could
Speaker 3: have been somebody that was well known, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: But it was just a big band. They were playing
Speaker 2: their things, and then this one guy stood up from
Speaker 2: the big band and played a saxophone solo. And I
Speaker 2: looked at that, and I was actually watching it with
Speaker 2: my mom and I was ten, and I looked at
Speaker 2: my mom and say, hey, I want to play that instrument.
Speaker 3: And then that's where it's started.
Speaker 4: Kenny g is our guest. Now a time in did
Speaker 4: you I'm sure where you were growing up going, you
Speaker 4: know what, I'm going to be a sex symbol when
Speaker 4: I've become a musician. We put this on Facebook, and
Speaker 4: again women reacted to our post of that you were
Speaker 4: going to be on the show. But you did get
Speaker 4: a reaction from a demo. Was that the LUs you
Speaker 4: wanted people to enjoy your music, but boy, it seemed
Speaker 4: like the women were going crazy for you.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean.
Speaker 2: What you're saying really is what happened was that once
Speaker 2: I did that Johnny Carson's performance, then people started to
Speaker 2: hear by music. So so now radio stations back in
Speaker 2: the old days days, if there was a radio programmer
Speaker 2: and he or she decided what was being played, no
Speaker 2: one would play my music on the radio on the
Speaker 2: radio programs, and there was no instrumental music stations. So
Speaker 2: we just went around to the pop stations and literally
Speaker 2: knocked on their door. I walked into the you know,
Speaker 2: the guy's office and say, hey.
Speaker 3: Listen, would you play my little song? And they would.
Speaker 2: This was the normal thing. My wife and I really
Speaker 2: like your music, but we can't play it on our
Speaker 2: radio shows.
Speaker 3: Does it work?
Speaker 2: But one guy took a chance, and that's when their
Speaker 2: phone lines lit up, and it really was a demographic
Speaker 2: of like, you know, thirty plus years old female right,
Speaker 2: And then everybody started going, hey, wait a minute, if
Speaker 2: we played the song, we'll get those ladies to call
Speaker 2: in on our show.
Speaker 3: And so then and then the word spread and that
Speaker 3: so it became it became that.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure that. I'm not sure that the
Speaker 2: women's reaction was. It wasn't for me as a as
Speaker 2: a sax symbol.
Speaker 3: It was just the music. I can't so that's how
Speaker 3: that was.
Speaker 1: I can't remember which musician was. It might have been
Speaker 1: Warn Hayes, some Woy was on the It was a
Speaker 1: guitarist was on the show, and he was talking about
Speaker 1: that he had the first guitar that he ever played
Speaker 1: and he still plays. He still uses it in concerts.
Speaker 1: You started ten years old. Do you still have your
Speaker 1: original sacks and if so, do you still play it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I don't have the original at ten, but the one
Speaker 2: that I bought in uh, when I was seventeen, that's
Speaker 2: my original soprano saxon. Okay, that's the one I still play,
Speaker 2: So I still that's my saxophone.
Speaker 3: So all the.
Speaker 2: Songs that I've ever played on anything that you've ever
Speaker 2: heard is thatphone.
Speaker 3: And that's the tax phone that.
Speaker 2: I have, And that's the sex phone that'll be at
Speaker 2: the concert you seriously on the fourteenth.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's impressive. Kenny G's our guest. Don't miss this
Speaker 1: show Louisville Palace Theater, May fourteenth. You always did it
Speaker 1: your weight. You know, you were talking about how you
Speaker 1: know you wanted to the Tonight Show with Carson wanted
Speaker 1: you to do a number that had lyrics to it.
Speaker 1: You called the Autumn what the Last Second? And I
Speaker 1: find that this was a this was a hardcore move man.
Speaker 1: It's in the eighties. Uh, you've taken off you got
Speaker 1: the career you are. Kenny g and then Clive Davis
Speaker 1: and the record label. They say, hey, well, will you
Speaker 1: to do an American songbook cover album? But it's other
Speaker 1: people's songs and you didn't do it. It was a hard
Speaker 1: telling Clive Davis. No, and I mean because it's Clive Davis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very hard.
Speaker 2: Clive Davis for those that don't know, he's like the
Speaker 2: ultimate record company executive. He's the one that that signed
Speaker 2: Santana and he signed you know, I think Jimmy Hendrix
Speaker 2: and Janis Joplin and Joni Mitchell and like, so he's
Speaker 2: and you know, very and you know Barry Manilow and
Speaker 2: Rod Stewart and all the people. So he comes from
Speaker 2: the perspective that whatever he says, you've better listen to
Speaker 2: because he's.
Speaker 3: The star maker, right.
Speaker 2: So he would tell me to do this and I
Speaker 2: didn't want to do it. So yeah, it was hard
Speaker 2: to say though, because he would say this is but
Speaker 2: this is to his credit, he said, Kenny, is your career.
Speaker 2: You do what you want, but I'm just looking. You know,
Speaker 2: this will be the biggest career move in the wrong
Speaker 2: direction that you'll ever make if you don't listen to. Oh,
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, I'll take that chance.
Speaker 3: Clive, Wow, the.
Speaker 1: Guts on you. I want to go back to when
Speaker 1: you're seventeen years old. I want to find out this
Speaker 1: story is true or not. You get to back Barry
Speaker 1: White somehow on saxophone, and then years and years later
Speaker 1: you become Kenny g who we know today. You get
Speaker 1: an award at the Sotree Awards and then you run
Speaker 1: into him at the restroom. Is there true to that
Speaker 1: that you? You say, Hey, Berry White, I played with
Speaker 1: you on X Y Z and then he asked you
Speaker 1: just to hand you a tack? Is there truth today?
Speaker 3: It's all true? Said through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was you know again, like the young listeners,
Speaker 2: Berry White was the ultimate R and B singer. So
Speaker 2: anybody that any male black singer that you know in
Speaker 2: the world. And let's say there's ten real popular ones.
Speaker 2: If you combine them and multiplied by a hundred, that's
Speaker 2: how popular Erry was.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: And so I at seventeen, I through different contacts.
Speaker 3: I was still in high school. I left the gig
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 2: Played the gig and I did really well, and it
Speaker 2: was really like the kind of the start of me
Speaker 2: being a professional musician. And so the Soul Train Music
Speaker 2: Awards does not give many awards to white guys.
Speaker 3: But I got I got one.
Speaker 2: In fact that I have two, but that was my
Speaker 2: first one that I got from Soul Trained Music Awards.
Speaker 2: And again I'm feeling on a high because you know,
Speaker 2: Whitney Houston's getting one that night and Gladys Knight's getting.
Speaker 3: One and I'm getting one. I'm thinking, man, this is
Speaker 3: all this is super cool.
Speaker 2: So in the bathroom, very white walks in and I
Speaker 2: blabb her the whole story about starting with him and literally.
Speaker 3: Looks at me and he doesn't doesn't could.
Speaker 2: Care less what he said, goes, hey, baby, hand me
Speaker 2: a paper towel. Then he walked out, and then I,
Speaker 2: you know what, then I cleaned. I cleaned the bathroom
Speaker 2: after him.
Speaker 3: You know, I was like, I guess that was my job.
Speaker 1: Well you got it, Kenny g. You know, so you
Speaker 1: mentioned Whitney Houston. I've always heard that you were with
Speaker 1: Clive Davis when he discovered Whitney Houston. Is there truth
Speaker 1: to that or not?
Speaker 2: Well, it's true that I was with him on the
Speaker 2: day that he went to watch her her performance to.
Speaker 3: To then sign her.
Speaker 2: Okay, think he had already already decided to sign her,
Speaker 2: but he they.
Speaker 3: Were going up to watch her.
Speaker 2: Uh whatever you want to call that was like a
Speaker 2: not like an audish, but she was doing this special
Speaker 2: performance and everybody from the record company went.
Speaker 3: Up to watch her.
Speaker 2: And I was there with Clive and it was I
Speaker 2: did you know, look, I leaned over to Clive, said
Speaker 2: Clive Seiner, and then he did, so, you know, I
Speaker 2: take total credit for it, but of course he probably
Speaker 2: already do all that before I said a word.
Speaker 1: The great Liberaci that they said Liberachi would practice six
Speaker 1: to eight hours a day even when he's Liberaci's in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Do you still practice every single day or do you
Speaker 1: get to some point where you say, you know what
Speaker 1: the muscle memories there, I'm Kenny G I don't need
Speaker 1: to practice.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I practice every day, really practice every
Speaker 2: day for yeah, for three three hours.
Speaker 3: Is my number? Okay, every day?
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely absolutely. I'll do it today, I did yesterday,
Speaker 2: I did the day before, I'll do it tomorrow. I've
Speaker 2: done it every day for the last you know, fifty years,
Speaker 2: and it'll just be It's just part of my life
Speaker 2: and it's always well when I when I'm in control
Speaker 2: of my time at home.
Speaker 3: It's in the morning. On the road, it's in the afternoon.
Speaker 3: And that's the.
Speaker 1: Way coasts dedication. Well, well, listen, Kenny G. When Tony
Speaker 1: mentioned that we put up the posts senor doing the
Speaker 1: show women coming out of the woodwork, have him call
Speaker 1: me on my personal cell phone. You name it whatever.
Speaker 1: But we got to talk about the hair man pretty sexy,
Speaker 1: the Kenny G hair. I've heard that you only shampoo
Speaker 1: it like one one time a week or something to
Speaker 1: keep it fresh. How do you keep the hair? Is
Speaker 1: there any kind of routine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I do is every night I'll pick an
Speaker 2: audience member to come up and wash my hair.
Speaker 3: For me to the kid it totally and that worked out.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, I just got lucky that my grandmother had
Speaker 3: curls and she passed them down to me. And uh
Speaker 3: so that's it. You know, there's no big story.
Speaker 2: I don't do anything special other than than just I
Speaker 2: don't shampoo it too much. That's all just and people
Speaker 2: that know about you know, having healthy hair.
Speaker 3: No, it's not good to shampoo every day. That's no
Speaker 3: big secret.
Speaker 1: Kenny is our guest. Just one more question, Kenny G.
Speaker 1: So you're you're in Seattle, you're in your formative years,
Speaker 1: you're doing it all right, and you're in the stock
Speaker 1: game somehow, and you invest in a small, little coffee company.
Speaker 1: Talk about that for a second, because I think that's
Speaker 1: quite brilliant and lucky if you ask.
Speaker 2: Me, well, definitely lucky, definitely lucky, you know, just being
Speaker 2: in the right place at the right time. My uncle
Speaker 2: was a you know, prominent businessman in Seattle, and he
Speaker 2: called me one day and said, Hey, you know, I
Speaker 2: know you've sold some records, so I bet you've got
Speaker 2: some at least some money.
Speaker 3: You should put some money behind this company called Starbucks
Speaker 3: there look at to raise money and expand. And so
Speaker 3: I took his advice.
Speaker 4: I give you the Forrest Gump of sa.
Speaker 1: Kenny g one last question. So I gotta ask you this.
Speaker 1: When you come out and the popularity of your music,
Speaker 1: I think it's its own carey, but you might be
Speaker 1: able to say, smooth jazz when you come out, does
Speaker 1: the jazz community come after you negatively? And if so,
Speaker 1: do you even care or do you just press forward?
Speaker 3: Oh? I don't care. Okay, I don't care about anything
Speaker 3: like that. But you know, I think the jazz is.
Speaker 2: The traditional jazz community did come after me at one point,
Speaker 2: but I think they're tired of it because they see
Speaker 2: that it goes nowhere.
Speaker 3: It It doesn't matter what they say, you know, we're
Speaker 3: all entitled to play our music the way we.
Speaker 2: Want to, and so yeah, I couldn't care less what
Speaker 2: they say about anything.
Speaker 1: He's Kenny G. Over seventy five million, over seventy five
Speaker 1: million albums sold. Catch him don't miss this concert live
Speaker 1: at the Louisville Palace Theater, May fourteenth. Kenny G. I
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough of mego for coming.
Speaker 3: On, my friend, my pleasure. Thank you guys, and have
Speaker 3: a great rest of the day.
Speaker 1: Well see on the fourteenth. There you go, Kenny G.
Speaker 1: Good guys.
Speaker 4: Good still Starbucks? Huh yeah, ground floor Starbucks.
Speaker 3: Darn it.
Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 1: Kenny, Kenny, we're back on the phone. Listen. I'll go
Speaker 1: over that song with you later.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I love you too. Sorry, dude, I didn't
Speaker 1: know we were on the air. This is embarrassing.
Speaker 4: I'm proud of you. You kept your emotions in check. How
Speaker 4: about that man when you were interviewing Kenny.
Speaker 1: G Baby making music? I wanted to tell him, you know,
Speaker 1: my wife, is it true? You gotta be in science
Speaker 1: when you were in fourth grade.
Speaker 4: That's so cool, Kenny, that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Hey, Kenny g h. The wife and I would like
Speaker 1: to make sweet sweet love to your music. The other people.
Speaker 4: Uh, no word on the pope yet, but I think
Speaker 4: we could possibly have one before our show was over.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to text the Vatican and see where.
Speaker 4: I don't don't do not even I can the phone down.
Speaker 1: Down unless they're going to textile baby.
Speaker 4: So once we have our producer John Alden, he's got
Speaker 4: his eyeballs and one TV screen is specifically on the chimney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's yeah, but look what he did. The
Speaker 1: guy dresses up like the Pope. He's got any bitty
Speaker 1: chimney right there with a smoke bomb just waiting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have to go. Look, we appreciate the extra effort, dude,
Speaker 1: but it's radio. Nobody could see you. That's true. What
Speaker 1: a waste of time. Yeah, I feel.
Speaker 4: Bad And Dwight show will go directly to Rome. Yes,
Speaker 4: if we see white smoke coming out of that pipe.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, if it doesn't happen today,
Speaker 1: they may fly this show to Rome. Idea were the
Speaker 1: best journalists.
Speaker 4: Cover it live? Food's kind of good in room?
Speaker 1: Yeah, spaghetti, it's kind of good. There is one conclave
Speaker 1: that lasted three years? What if this one lasted?
Speaker 4: Oh? How long ago was that? Though?
Speaker 1: Like in the years ago on a long time ago.
Speaker 1: That's not happening here, let me look it up.
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Speaker 4: Why is Gunny here?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Gunny came and at in Deborah. Let's talk about the Deborah,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good?
Speaker 3: Are you? Hey?
Speaker 1: Were you born in Tennessee?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: Because you're a one with ten I see.
Speaker 4: Please get to the point here. You know that's disgusting
Speaker 4: because you are the one that married these two.
Speaker 1: I didn't marry him. I performed the ceremony. You gave
Speaker 1: away the punchline, so I know. But he was doing
Speaker 1: the goofy.
Speaker 6: So what as of today? You know, Debora and I
Speaker 6: has been married for nine years. Nine We wanted to
Speaker 6: stop by the radio station to see our pastor because
Speaker 6: nine years ago today, uh, well and some change. Deborah
Speaker 6: went and asked Dwight if he would get his ordained
Speaker 6: license and marry us.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 6: Now, not until like a few minutes after that that
Speaker 6: I realized what a mistake. But then Dwight also coordinated
Speaker 6: that electric guitarist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they walked down to the electric guitar wedding march
Speaker 1: very distorted him by the way. I think.
Speaker 4: I think people want to know we're joking a lot,
Speaker 4: but Dwight takes these things kind of seriously. How did
Speaker 4: he do as your pastor when he married you?
Speaker 1: Guys? Well, that's a tough.
Speaker 6: One, you know, growing up with Dwight and send him
Speaker 6: you know, active full in high school, but never had
Speaker 6: faith in him. And yes, he did show up and
Speaker 6: had his game face on. I'm pretty sure he tried
Speaker 6: to slide in some jokes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, they didn't land. They didn't land.
Speaker 4: Shocker. So I can't believe you've been back that. To
Speaker 4: tell you the truth, it seems like yesterday that when
Speaker 4: you get you got back from overseas or out of
Speaker 4: the service. We have two friends, you know them both
Speaker 4: they did full twenty five years and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's amazing that they've been back ten fifteen years
Speaker 4: now and it's like they never when they drop back in,
Speaker 4: it's like they never left.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, there's nothing like home. And so you know,
Speaker 6: I always knew that once I retired, be coming back
Speaker 6: home and just fit right in. And uh, you know,
Speaker 6: I didn't pick up another job. I continue to raise
Speaker 6: my kids and then spend time, you know, just doing
Speaker 6: the things we love, like the Derby and Louder than
Speaker 6: Life and just enjoying life. Trips overseas and the occasional
Speaker 6: stop by Dwight's house to.
Speaker 4: See Uh, yeah, that's very rare. It's funny when these
Speaker 4: guys get together. They taught it when someone else brings
Speaker 4: up something that happened overseas. Look, we were in that
Speaker 4: war for a long time. It's funny how much they know.
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Speaker 4: like Triple doesn't movies. Yeah, well Triple will go that No, no, no,
Speaker 4: I had that area that he was that that that
Speaker 4: that outfit wasn't in country. It's crazy you all know
Speaker 4: those details on different companies and outfits and all that.
Speaker 6: I don't know if my wife really enjoys it, but
Speaker 6: you know when we're watching a movie, that's the first thing. No,
Speaker 6: there's no that unit wasn't even in country.
Speaker 1: How long were you in and then how long were
Speaker 1: you in Special Forces? You were in twenty eight years?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 6: Twenty eight and a half?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How long are special Forces? Oh, eighteen and it's a
Speaker 1: long time man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And here's what I'll say about Gunny. He's one of
Speaker 1: my best friends, known all my life. But you say
Speaker 1: that to all the guys, Well, yeah, I do. You're
Speaker 1: no Kenny g But listen. So one of the times
Speaker 1: when he was still active duty, he's in the States,
Speaker 1: he calls me up. He says, hey, man, I'm coming
Speaker 1: to Louisville only a couple of days. You want to
Speaker 1: grab some wings? I say, yeah, yeah's I think it
Speaker 1: was Derby time and so let's go. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go. So we go this wing joint. We get
Speaker 1: a couple of beers, big plate of wings were sitting there.
Speaker 1: He gets a text and he starts texting this guy back. Well,
Speaker 1: come to find out it's some other special Forces guy
Speaker 1: that just happens to be coming through Kentucky. Yeah, Gunny
Speaker 1: invites him over and they sit at the table. I've
Speaker 1: never felt more inadequate in my entire life. My wife
Speaker 1: text me, I said, I just feel like such a Yeah.
Speaker 4: You should feel that more often. But he value your friendship.
Speaker 4: Nine years is law is a great Uh it feels
Speaker 4: like nine minutes, right, Gunny, Yeah it does, But.
Speaker 1: How long does it feel to you?
Speaker 4: A lot longer? But you guys are a team, yes,
Speaker 4: and you you help a lot of veterans issues.
Speaker 1: Yes. Talk about the VMC.
Speaker 6: Well, that's I think where Tony was going with that.
Speaker 6: You know, Veterans Motorcycle Club. Uh, I'm the national president,
Speaker 6: but also here a member of the local chapter and uh,
Speaker 6: you know, we're all for veterans causes past and present.
Speaker 6: A lot of our donations go to the Ratcliffe Veterans Center. Uh,
Speaker 6: you know that are not state funded. If you will,
Speaker 6: you know, we don't pay for their meals. We pay
Speaker 6: for like clothing or we ensure that that they're being
Speaker 6: taken care of. And you know, just stop buying visiting
Speaker 6: them is nice.
Speaker 1: It's one of the worst things for our veterans. That
Speaker 1: a lot of the lot of the Vietnam veterans Korean
Speaker 1: and what few w W two we have or just
Speaker 1: getting warehouse, they're just sitting in the room by themselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's is that a big It's kind of sad. It's
Speaker 1: a lot, it's very sad.
Speaker 6: Once they get into the home, you know, that's that's
Speaker 6: becomes their life. And sometimes they're just simply forgotten about.
Speaker 6: And you know, I don't mean that in a negative way.
Speaker 6: Their families may not be local or you know, and
Speaker 6: they can't come visit them, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6: And so you know, stop buying a visit just you
Speaker 6: don't have to know them. They just want someone to
Speaker 6: talk to.
Speaker 4: But they relate mostly with you guys like you guys.
Speaker 4: A lot of times, we Dwight and I can only
Speaker 4: do so much. It's the other guys that serve that
Speaker 4: they connect with.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just like with anything, you know, we can
Speaker 6: tell the same stories, just different era and that's what
Speaker 6: they connect to.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird because I go out to the VMC
Speaker 1: clubhouse about once a year fundraisers, and I was talking
Speaker 1: to you and some of the other club and you
Speaker 1: all were mentioning that, you know, you could tell me
Speaker 1: a story or an issue you're having with but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to understand it because I haven't been through it.
Speaker 1: So the brotherhood of the VMC gives you all a
Speaker 1: place where if you're talking about a subject, the other
Speaker 1: person actually understands it. So it's beneficial. It's therapeutic to
Speaker 1: be amongst brothers like that, right, It is exactly.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, there's plenty of resources out there
Speaker 6: for veterans, you know, counselors and things like that for
Speaker 6: PTSD or suicide or you know, job awareness or turning
Speaker 6: to get a job and such. But when you can
Speaker 6: talk to someone that you know, again different situation but
Speaker 6: same scenario that they can relate with connect well, they
Speaker 6: tend to open up more. You know, because I've been
Speaker 6: to you know, see counselors, especially when I first got
Speaker 6: out from depression, and it was hard to connect to.
Speaker 6: I mean, my counselor used to be for what's that
Speaker 6: local wrestling that they do that's OVW Yes, yeah, big
Speaker 6: huge dude, that's all his job. Oh okay, And so
Speaker 6: while talking with him, you know, I just felt no
Speaker 6: connection and because of that was kind of hard to
Speaker 6: open up right and really sit down and tell my promise.
Speaker 6: But when you come across someone that's done similarly the
Speaker 6: same things as you, well.
Speaker 1: Year's can open.
Speaker 4: Here's the problem. The first time we interviewed about that,
Speaker 4: Here's what jumped out of me and I've never forgot
Speaker 4: it nine years later is when you said you said
Speaker 4: to stay on teams.
Speaker 1: That's where I was going.
Speaker 4: They asked you, are you okay, and you got to
Speaker 4: say yes when you know you're not okay, but your
Speaker 4: life is the teams and to stay on it. And
Speaker 4: then at the end when you go no, I'm not okay,
Speaker 4: they say, hey, well you said the last twenty the
Speaker 4: last eighteen years, every year you said you were fine.
Speaker 1: That's the problem, right.
Speaker 6: Well, so specifically talking about in SF, you know, your
Speaker 6: your time on a team is where you make your
Speaker 6: money and rise either in rank or job positions or
Speaker 6: duty assignments. And so when you start to talk or
Speaker 6: if someone thinks that you even hurt, whether it's an
Speaker 6: ankle injury or you know, maybe your mind's not in
Speaker 6: the right spot or your back or whatever.
Speaker 1: As soon as you say like, hey, I.
Speaker 6: Need to go to sick call, well you have the
Speaker 6: chance of being removed, and then I will stifle your career.
Speaker 6: And so you just put up with it over and
Speaker 6: over and over until your.
Speaker 1: Body physically can't do it anymore.
Speaker 6: And then you're right, tony, that's what you say, is like,
Speaker 6: oh I need some help. Well, when did this problem
Speaker 6: develop right a long time ago? Well, no it didn't.
Speaker 6: So it's hard Like with these counselors I'm talking about,
Speaker 6: when you tell them that you know, they can't understand
Speaker 6: why didn't you just say something and help your body.
Speaker 6: But when you talk to a counselor that has served,
Speaker 6: the response of the resounding response always gets like yeah,
Speaker 6: I know what you're talking to, get it, And then
Speaker 6: you feel a little sigh of relief, like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 6: not bulge having you. You know, they understand you, and
Speaker 6: that's what I'm talking about, the connection.
Speaker 4: Good stuff. Nine years to go? Another nine?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Debra? Okay with another nine? Okay?
Speaker 4: Okay? She signs up for another nine?
Speaker 1: All right? Having me out? Yeah, but what's her bonus
Speaker 1: for signing? For re signing already said? Listen, thanks for
Speaker 1: all you have done. Appreciate it, Deborah. Good to see
Speaker 1: you guys. I think you kids just might make it
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