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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

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<v Speaker 1>In today's episode, we're gonna take a swim across the

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<v Speaker 1>pond and we're gonna check in on the Joe Exotic

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<v Speaker 1>of the Windsor family and see what Prince Andrew's bitch

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<v Speaker 1>ass is getting up to now. And according to new reports,

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew and the Royal Family, well, they're facing the

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<v Speaker 1>prospect of another movie coming out that is absolutely bashing

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course for the Royal Family, that's not good news. They

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<v Speaker 1>already are facing a slew of allegations when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to Prince Andrew. They already have multiple projects that they're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with that have been made or that are being made,

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<v Speaker 1>and the last thing they want is another project coming

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<v Speaker 1>out that puts Prince Andrew and the Royal Family in

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<v Speaker 1>a bad light, and that's exactly what this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to do. So with that said, why don't we dive

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<v Speaker 1>in to this article from the Daily Mail and let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what they have for us as far as Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew and this new project that's allegedly about to be

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<v Speaker 1>in production and the headline Prince Andrew faces a third

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<v Speaker 1>downfall film as firm working closely with Netflix explores Duke

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<v Speaker 1>of York's character arc from Queen's favorite son to his

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<v Speaker 1>scandals friendship with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored

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<v Speaker 1>by Natasha Livingston. Prince Andrew's Fall from Grace is to

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<v Speaker 1>be turned into a major documentary by a film company

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<v Speaker 1>working closely with Netflix. The Mail on Sunday understands the film.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll explore the Duke of York's character arc from a

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<v Speaker 1>war hero and the Queen's favorite to the scandal over

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<v Speaker 1>his close friendship with pedophile sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, which

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<v Speaker 1>led to his departure from royal duties in twenty nineteen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>not just his friendship. Let's not forget the allegations, very

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<v Speaker 1>serious allegations were made against Prince Andrew, and while the

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<v Speaker 1>actual act of him having sex with Virginia was not

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed by anybody that has come forward, we have corroboration

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<v Speaker 1>that they were seen together. Not only do we have

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<v Speaker 1>the picture. We heard from Joanna Schoberg, we have heard

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<v Speaker 1>from mister Scully, and we have heard from other people

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<v Speaker 1>that Virginia and Prince Andrew were together. And then on

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<v Speaker 1>the flip side of that, what have we heard from

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew, Well, a bunch of bs right, the picture

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<v Speaker 1>is not real, that's not me, my fingers are too fat,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole litany of other excuses that even fail

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<v Speaker 1>a basic sniff test. I mean, does anybody believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the Prince of England was at the pizza place in Woking?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a break already, That never happened. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time believing Captain Royal Douche over here has

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<v Speaker 1>ever been into a pizza shop ever in his life. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he might have ordered pizza or sent somebody else to

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<v Speaker 1>go get it for him, but did he go to

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<v Speaker 1>the pizza shop himself, sit down, get himself a slice

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<v Speaker 1>nice coca cola? I highly doubt it. The program is

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<v Speaker 1>being made by the award winning production company Sandpaper Films,

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<v Speaker 1>which is known for working with top streaming services Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple and Amazon. And while I understand why they'd want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have another documentary out there about Prince Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>cover any road that hasn't already been traveled. So I

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<v Speaker 1>doubt it'll be anything new, but it's always nice when

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<v Speaker 1>there's fresh embarrassment for the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family.

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<v Speaker 1>Right anytime that this guy can be embarrassed, anytime that

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<v Speaker 1>he can be outed once again as the dirt bag

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<v Speaker 1>Howard that he is. I think it's a good idea

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<v Speaker 1>because people need to be aware of scumbags like Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew and that they're BS narratives are just that BS narratives.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandpaper has already made several films about the royal family,

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<v Speaker 1>including the two thousand and seven teen film Diana Seven Days,

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<v Speaker 1>which analyzed her final days and featured interviews with Prince

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<v Speaker 1>William and Prince Harry. So I'm not really hip on

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<v Speaker 1>any of these royal movies. As you all know, I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't care about the royal family one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. And if it wasn't for this whole entire

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein controversy, I wouldn't talk about the royal family at all.

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<v Speaker 1>The days of me caring about the King and the

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<v Speaker 1>Queen that shit ended in seventeen seventy six. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no desire to care or even think about what these

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<v Speaker 1>scumbag royals have to say or what they think, and

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<v Speaker 1>I find it beyond bizarre that anybody cares what these

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<v Speaker 1>people think. At this point, We're in the year twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and we're still worried about what some weird

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<v Speaker 1>ass royal has to say. Other productions tackled the war

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<v Speaker 1>crimes trial of genocidal Bosnian Sir military leader Ratko Miledic

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<v Speaker 1>and the twenty twelve Roschdelle sex trafficking ring. So this

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<v Speaker 1>company is not strangers to making documentaries like this, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they have their sights set on the Joe Exotic

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<v Speaker 1>of the Windsor family, so I'm interested to see what

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<v Speaker 1>they come up with. I don't think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>anything groundbreaking, obviously, but it's always fun to watch Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew squirm. And I'd be lying to you all if

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<v Speaker 1>I said I didn't get a kick out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime you have somebody like this who has had the

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<v Speaker 1>whole entire world given to them and they've squandered it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can expect a shock and awe campaign of mockery

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<v Speaker 1>coming from me. You know how hard the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>us have to work just to pay our bills, to

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<v Speaker 1>put food on the table, to make sure that our

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<v Speaker 1>families are doing okay. And this guy's out here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with Epstein, hanging out with arms dealers, hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with Goddafi and nobody gives a shit. Ah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just Prince Andrew, good old Prince Andrew. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the old days when you had a touchy uncle. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just Uncle so and so. He's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes to touch you. Wait, what what does that

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<v Speaker 1>even mean? Shouldn't uncle Touchy not be invited to any

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<v Speaker 1>more of the family functions. I mean, in the real world,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happens. But when you're a royal and you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Prince Andrew, you have a different set of rules

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<v Speaker 1>that you live by. Producers are said to be keen

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<v Speaker 1>to approach Andrew's former private secretary, Alistair Watson, who worked

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<v Speaker 1>for the duke between two thousand and three to twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>if he cooperated. Insiders say this could be bad news

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<v Speaker 1>for the Duke, as mister Watson knows where the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>are buried. Well, yeah, he would know, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>head of security. We've had several people come out now

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about Prince Andrew's behavior while he was in

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<v Speaker 1>their charge, whether it was a maid, whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>a housekeeper, whether it was security. We've heard from so

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<v Speaker 1>many people about this man's character, or should I say

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<v Speaker 1>lack thereof, So why should anybody be surprised about these

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<v Speaker 1>allegations When you go through your whole entire life and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody ever tells you know, and you're able to do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want whenever you want to do it. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you really think that you're going to stop at a

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<v Speaker 1>point such as this when we're talking about a girl

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<v Speaker 1>that looks young and Prince Andrew's dumbass, Well, he'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say Jeffrey told me that she was over age. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, we should be believing Jeffrey Epstein. So

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<v Speaker 1>the whole entire BS story that Prince Andrew packaged to

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<v Speaker 1>us is exactly that BS. And his only hope would

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<v Speaker 1>have been to say that he was blackmailed from the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning. But since he didn't do that, since he

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<v Speaker 1>never came out and said that, well I wouldn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>him now if he even tried to change it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Watson was hired to support the Duke in his

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<v Speaker 1>position as UK Trade Envoy, where he represented the government

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<v Speaker 1>around the world after leaving the Royal Navy in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and one. The Duke faced a series of controversies

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<v Speaker 1>in the role, including claims he went on holiday with

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<v Speaker 1>a Libyan gun smuggler. Andrew quit the role in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eleven after stories broke about him visiting convicted pedophile Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>at his home in New York after he was released

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<v Speaker 1>from jail. And that's another thing we have to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew wasn't hanging out with Epstein just before he

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<v Speaker 1>went to jail. It was after, so the whole entire

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what he was up to, who

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<v Speaker 1>he was. I don't buy that now. If other people

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy it, that's fine. I've said it a

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<v Speaker 1>million times. I'm not here to convince anybody as shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to tell you how I see it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I see this whole entire ordeal breaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way it's breaking is the way it's broke

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<v Speaker 1>from the very beginning, and that's bad. Respected author Andrew Lowney,

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<v Speaker 1>who has written best selling biographies of Lord mount Batten

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<v Speaker 1>and the Duke of Windsor, is understood to be acting

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<v Speaker 1>as a consultant for the documentary. He is also writing

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<v Speaker 1>a biography of Prince Andrew and his former wife Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Ferguson that will look closely at the Duke of York's

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<v Speaker 1>time as Trade Envoy. I mean, the guy has nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else to rest his laurels on, right, Trade Envoy had

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of time fighting over in the Falklands,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden he's some big war hero,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole thing. But besides that, what does

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<v Speaker 1>he really have to rest his hat on. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>most of you out there have some achievements. You've done

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<v Speaker 1>things in your life that you're proud of, things that

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<v Speaker 1>your parents are proud of. Well, Prince Andrew, what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>has he accomplished besides being born or royal and Lord Mountbatten.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't he a diddler too? Wasn't he out here doing

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<v Speaker 1>the same ass shit? Oh gross ass son of a

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<v Speaker 1>bitch last night? Mister Lowney told mos he believes this

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<v Speaker 1>period is still murky due to government documents being kept

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<v Speaker 1>secret until twenty sixty five. I think there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of unanswered questions, he said. It is understood that

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<v Speaker 1>the new documentary will not be sensationalist nor focus solely

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<v Speaker 1>on the Duke's disastrous Newsnight interview in twenty nineteen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good, We've had plenty to focus on that. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get some of the other story, right, Let's get some

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<v Speaker 1>of the background story. Let's hear from some of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that were around this son of a bitch, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's hear what they have to say. Nevertheless, news of

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<v Speaker 1>the film will further diminish hopes within the Palace that

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<v Speaker 1>the fur around Prince Andrew, who has always denied any wrongdoing,

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<v Speaker 1>might fade from public imagination. Zero chance that's ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. Until he steps up, speaks to the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>and does the right, honorable thing like he said he

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<v Speaker 1>would do, then you can expect a full on shock

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<v Speaker 1>and all campaign, at least on this podcast. The Palace

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<v Speaker 1>is already braced for two forthcoming television dramas that will

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<v Speaker 1>recreate the Newsnight interview. Netflix film Scoop finished filming last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and Amazon Primes A Very Royal Scandal, is understood to

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<v Speaker 1>be just a few months behind. It follows a difficult

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<v Speaker 1>start to the year for the Duke after newly released

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<v Speaker 1>court documents released in the US alleges that Andrew had

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<v Speaker 1>an orgy with underage girls and touched the woman's breast

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<v Speaker 1>while posing with a puppet of himself. The controversy heat

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on King Charles to evict his brother from Royal

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<v Speaker 1>Lodge and Windsor, the thirty room property where he lives

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<v Speaker 1>with his ex wife Sarah, who last week revealed she

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<v Speaker 1>has skin cancer. Sandpaper Films did not respond to a

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<v Speaker 1>request for comment. So I'm not shocked at all to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this. And my guess is we're gonna see more

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<v Speaker 1>movies and shows and the rest of it about this

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<v Speaker 1>whole ordeal as time arches on, because the interest is

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<v Speaker 1>still there. You know what's unfortunate though, that the interest

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<v Speaker 1>from the DOJ is no longer there, because if it was, well,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these people that we're working with them, all

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<v Speaker 1>of his co conspirators, starting with Sarah Kellen Vickers, would

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<v Speaker 1>be arrested. And until that happens, me, my big mouth

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<v Speaker 1>All of the information that goes with this episode can

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<v Speaker 1>be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. I'm sure that most

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<v Speaker 1>in this final season, this fifth season, the producers of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole entire episode between Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>and what Prince Andrew was accused of, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not relevant or anything, especially when you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>I've said many times before, the whole entire monarchy is gross,

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<v Speaker 1>every last one of them. I know that offends people

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<v Speaker 1>over in the UK, at least some people, But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no use for any of these folks. I

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<v Speaker 1>just like the royals don't represent a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>from the UK. And when you're gonna whitewash shit and

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<v Speaker 1>leave out a big story, like you know, Epstein and

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew. How's anyone supposed to take dumbass show seriously?

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<v Speaker 1>Today's article is from Newsweek and the author of this

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<v Speaker 1>will not cover Prince Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the monarchy. So ask yourselves, why not? Why wouldn't they

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<v Speaker 1>do that? And of course they're gonna give you all

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<v Speaker 1>on the Crown. But the truth is the truth, and

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew is what he is and no amount of

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<v Speaker 1>whitewashing is ever going to change that, because future generations

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<v Speaker 1>are going to know that Prince Andrew aka the Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Exotic of the Windsor family was a goddamn disgrace, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how much they try to protect them. Peter Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>the show's creator, has indicated that he will not touch

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest scandals to hit the British royal

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<v Speaker 1>family in modern times. Well that's because he doesn't care. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't care. This shows about whitewashing and gobbling the

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<v Speaker 1>knob of the Royals as a whole. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>that the Royal boot liquors that are in the media

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<v Speaker 1>she had from her interview with Virginia Roberts. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they quashed them, right, And what was the reasoning? They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to lose access to the Royals? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine ABC News would prefer to have access to the

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<v Speaker 1>Royals then tell you about Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. Keep that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, because remember, lies of omission are still lies.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they lie to you about this, what else

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<v Speaker 1>are they lying to you about. The six season covers

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<v Speaker 1>the years nineteen ninety seven to two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 1>was forced to have sex with Andrew in London, New

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<v Speaker 1>York and the British Virgin Islands in two thousand and one. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the US Virgin Islands, not the British Virgin Islands. The

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<v Speaker 1>Prince denies the allegations, but settled out of court for

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<v Speaker 1>an undisclosed sum without admitting liability. Yeah, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>innocent people do, right, I'm not liable for this. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do this. But you know what, here's a cool

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen million. Let's just call it a day now. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're Leon Black, that's acceptable, right, because you have a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of dough. Prince Andrew is not that guy. All

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<v Speaker 1>of his money comes from other people. He doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>up every morning, he doesn't go to work, He don't

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<v Speaker 1>strop on old work boots, he don't do nothing of

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<v Speaker 1>the sort. You know what this man does. He griffs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he's done his whole entire life. His claim

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<v Speaker 1>royal family. That's his claim to fame. Asked about Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan told Variety simply haven't gone anywhere near him? Well

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<v Speaker 1>why not, mister Morgan. Don't you think people need to

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened? Don't you want to tell the actual

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<v Speaker 1>history and let the truth reflect that one explanation? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge of depicting events in a context where Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>has denied so much of Robert's account, stating that he

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<v Speaker 1>never met her and indicating through lawyers that he believes

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<v Speaker 1>it is at least possible a famous picture of him

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<v Speaker 1>with an arm around her is a fake. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible that I have a rich uncle who is

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<v Speaker 1>also the Sultan of BRUNEI is it likely. No, just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not likely here that that picture was fake.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been through this a million times now and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna cover that ground again. But all of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who have looked at the picture, who have been

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<v Speaker 1>in the know, who know what they're talking about, have

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<v Speaker 1>all said that the picture was real, it was legit,

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<v Speaker 1>and that picture was taken, he told the BBC's Newsnight

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen when asked if he had had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with Roberts. No, and without putting too fine a point

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<v Speaker 1>on it, if you're a man, it is a positive

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<v Speaker 1>act to have said with somebody. You have to have

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<v Speaker 1>to take some sort of positive action. And so therefore

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<v Speaker 1>if you try to forget, it's very difficult to try

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<v Speaker 1>and forget a positive action. And I do not remember anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the world's worst denial, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>anybody would give that credence is crazy. Anyone who thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that Prince Andrew's telling the truth. After listening to that

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<v Speaker 1>Newsnight interview, should really go and have their head examined

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<v Speaker 1>by the best mental health doctor on the planet, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>that might be, because unless you're suffering from CTE like

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown, I don't know how you could listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew and not just be straight up disgusted. I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've racked my brain and thinking, oh, when the first allegations,

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<v Speaker 1>When the first allegations came out, originally I went, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bit strange. I don't remember this. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>been through it and through it and through it over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and over again and know nothing. It just

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<v Speaker 1>never happened. Imagine this scumbag actually thinking people are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>believe this. BS. Nobody believes you, Prince Andrew. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe you. In Malli, they don't believe you. In Pakistan,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't believe you. In India, they don't believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>In America, they don't believe you. Anywhere. Hell, even the

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<v Speaker 1>bears in the Arctic don't believe you. However, the existence

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<v Speaker 1>of his friendship with Epstein and Glenn Maxwell sentenced to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years in prison for sex trafficking offenses in June

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. Is beyond a doubt. Yeah, no shit,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it's beyond the doubt. And it's pretty absurd

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<v Speaker 1>that they'd leave this whole entire chapter out of this show. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said before, I don't watch this show personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched one episode even but I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to tell with historical accuracy the story

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<v Speaker 1>of the Windsor family, Right, Isn't that the whole purpose?

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<v Speaker 1>But you're gonna leave this gigantic part out. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>are you trying to accomplish by doing that? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to demean what Virginia had to say? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to demean the suffering that the survivors went through.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to need some answers from the creators of

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<v Speaker 1>this show, and I don't want to hear any nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>about Oh well, it was a sensitive topic. Andrew was

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<v Speaker 1>also photographed on a yacht surrounded by topless women while

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<v Speaker 1>holidaying in Fouquet, Thailand, with Epstein and Maxwell in January

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and one. Now we all know what

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<v Speaker 1>goes on in Thailand. Why is a grown ass man

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<v Speaker 1>going to Thailand for quote unquote party time. Especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you're this rich, they could go anywhere they want. But

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<v Speaker 1>we all know that Epstein had his proclivities, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly was Epstein up to in Thailand? And what

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<v Speaker 1>was Prince Andrew up to while he was hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with him? And during that holiday he went to a

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<v Speaker 1>for adult entertainment according to biography Prince Andrew, Epstein, Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>and the Palace by Nigel Cawthorne. So what were they

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<v Speaker 1>doing there? Why would Prince Andrew be in Thailand? You

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<v Speaker 1>have nowhere else to be, nothing better to do as

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<v Speaker 1>the Prince of the Blood. And furthermore, why are you

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<v Speaker 1>there with somebody who was like Jeffrey Epstein. We all

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<v Speaker 1>knew what he was. Even back then people might act

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<v Speaker 1>like they didn't know what he was, but they knew.

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<v Speaker 1>They definitely knew. There was a lot of rumors at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, There were allegations at the time, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were even women who have come forward at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and guess what those women, well, they were ignored. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew's benefiting from this relationship getting rich from this

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and building all kinds of contacts on the back

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<v Speaker 1>of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. But nah, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it in this dumb ass show. Andrew is

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<v Speaker 1>not the only controversial subject Morgan has swerved with a

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<v Speaker 1>showrunner appearing to indicate that he will focus more on

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<v Speaker 1>the air Prince William rather than on the spare Prince Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>The show's narrative has always been centered around the direct

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<v Speaker 1>line of succession Elizabeth, Charles and William. I do little

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<v Speaker 1>bits of dramatization of Harry, but mainly only in relationship

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<v Speaker 1>to William, Morgan told Variety, So any minuscule chance that

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<v Speaker 1>I might have had to ever watch this show has

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<v Speaker 1>now totally been thrown right out the window. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no desire to watch a show that's going to whitewash

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<v Speaker 1>what Prince Andrew was up to. Now, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it to a point where you're accusing him

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<v Speaker 1>of being guilty, but you should talk about the controversy

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least, and then let people come to

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<v Speaker 1>their own conclusions. But when you start whitewashing things, you

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<v Speaker 1>start leaving things out and you start protecting people like

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew and the royal family. Well, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>leave yourself open to criticism from people who are following along,

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<v Speaker 1>and in my opinion, that sort of criticism is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>justified considering just how heavy this topic is and how

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<v Speaker 1>many people were hurt directly and indirectly because of Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. I would think that that

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<v Speaker 1>would warrant some screen time, but I guess the director

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<v Speaker 1>here and the creators, well, they have better things to do.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the information that goes with this episode, including

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<v Speaker 1>my contact information, can be found in the description box.

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<v Speaker 1>So the article is from the Daily Mail and the

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<v Speaker 1>headline is woman admits she was a schoolgirl pimp who

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<v Speaker 1>procured twenty four friends as young as fourteen for pedophile

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<v Speaker 1>billionaire Jeffrey Epstein and was paid two hundred dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>each victim. Well, it's nice to see that they call

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<v Speaker 1>them a pedophile in the headline at least, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a snake is a snake, a goat is a goat,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeffrey Epstein's a pedophile. This article was authored by

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Graham. A woman has admitted procuring two dozen schoolgirl friends,

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<v Speaker 1>some as young as fourteen, for file billionaire Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>and being paid two hundred dollars for each of the victims. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the person we're talking about in this article is Hailey Robson,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to remember that she was only sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>when she was first recruited as well. Right, So, as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I'd like to go scorched earth on her,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have to keep that in mind and

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<v Speaker 1>understand the psychology behind all of this. Again, I'm certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not a psychologist, and I'm not qualified to even begin

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<v Speaker 1>to try and look at it from that perspective clinically,

416
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<v Speaker 1>but there is zero doubt that she was groomed and

417
00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:48.319
<v Speaker 1>that Jeffrey Epstein used his narcissistic charm to get her

418
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.759
<v Speaker 1>to do what he wanted her to do. In a

419
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<v Speaker 1>harrowing interview for a new Netflix documentary series, Jeffrey Epstein

420
00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Filthy Rich, which premieres on Wednesday, Tearful, Hailey Robson is

421
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the first of Epstein's so called recruiters to admit introducing

422
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>children into his twisted sexual pyramid scheme for money. Now,

423
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:13.119
<v Speaker 1>for those of us who have been following the case

424
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.160
<v Speaker 1>for quite some time. This does not come as a

425
00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 1>shock to us. We know who Hailey Robson is, we

426
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>know what her role has been, and we've had time

427
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to digest it, right. But people who are going to

428
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<v Speaker 1>watch this documentary for the first time on Wednesday, and

429
00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I know several of them, it's going to come as

430
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a shock to them to see some of these things

431
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.599
<v Speaker 1>that were going on in the Jeffrey Epstein case, especially

432
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the first time around. And it's going to be a

433
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>shock for them to see that people actually knew that

434
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:46.559
<v Speaker 1>this was occurring and it was still able to happen. Now,

435
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 1>hopefully what this documentary does is it spurs people to

436
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>be more interested in the case and to search out

437
00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:59.039
<v Speaker 1>the deeper facts, and that is what I hope the

438
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>only thing and I'm hoping for this documentary. You know,

439
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I go into these kind of things and I'm very

440
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 1>skeptical until I watch them because a lot of times

441
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>they turn into hit pieces or they turn into the

442
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 1>documentaries that veer off into la la land, et cetera,

443
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:21.119
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. So obviously I have not seen this documentary yet.

444
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's what's going to occur here,

445
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 1>but I'm very interested to see how they present things

446
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:34.559
<v Speaker 1>for the unsullied, and the unsullied if you're not aware.

447
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:37.799
<v Speaker 1>For me, that's what I call people who are not

448
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:40.920
<v Speaker 1>locked into this case. I call them the unsullied because

449
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:44.759
<v Speaker 1>they don't know all of the nuances and all of

450
00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the deep, deep rabbit hole type situations we've been dealing

451
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:54.279
<v Speaker 1>with in this case. So I'm sure a lot of them,

452
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:58.519
<v Speaker 1>the unsullied, are going to watch this Netflix documentary and

453
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>their interest is going to be sparked, and they're going

454
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to search out other content and they're going to search

455
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:09.680
<v Speaker 1>out more information and hopefully they find themselves here at

456
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the Jeffrey Epstein Podcast, the Jeffrey Epstein Show, that way

457
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 1>that they can go a little bit deeper than just

458
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the surface. Right. But when people hear from Haley Robson

459
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.279
<v Speaker 1>for this first time around, and they see her on

460
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>screen and they realize that she was, you know, bringing

461
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.759
<v Speaker 1>girls fourteen years old to Jeffrey Epstein, what it's going

462
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.799
<v Speaker 1>to do is bug their eyes right out of their

463
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>head because a lot of people don't even understand that

464
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.279
<v Speaker 1>this is going on. And when I say a lot

465
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of people, folks, that was even me until I started

466
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 1>researching this case, I had no idea how big of

467
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>a problem all of this was. So that's my hope

468
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>for the Netflix documentary. My hope is that it spurs interest,

469
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and due to that interest, there is even more public

470
00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:02.839
<v Speaker 1>outcry for tangible action to be taken Miss Robson. Miss Robson,

471
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>who was sixteen when she began working for Epstein, says

472
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>she was racked with guilt for years until she realized

473
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that she was also a victim. Look, this is the

474
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>thing with her, right, It's just like with Nadia marson Cova.

475
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>It's one of those slippery slopes. You want her to

476
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>face justice for what she did. But if she was

477
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 1>a child herself and she was being abused, well, I

478
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>am certainly not qualified to go down that road and

479
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 1>go into all of the nuances of what would make

480
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>her completely culpable in a situation like that. So all

481
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I have to work on is my opinion and what

482
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>my gut tells me. And what my gut tells me

483
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:49.519
<v Speaker 1>with somebody like Hayley Robson is that when she was

484
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>committing these crimes of procuring these young girls, she was

485
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>only sixteen herself. So how do you punish somebody like that.

486
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 1>What is the proper punishment for somebody like that? Again,

487
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I'm qualified to even begin to

488
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 1>try and find find a proper resolution for a situation

489
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't have the answers there, folks. I'm sorry.

490
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my opinion is that anybody who was involved

491
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to any degree has to face some sort of justice

492
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>unless they come forward and they tell everything that they

493
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>know about the case. Then if you're a cooperating witness,

494
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>then that's the only way I think you should get

495
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>any leniency. But when it comes to people like Hayley

496
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Robson who was sixteen when this started and it occurred,

497
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and marson Kova, I'm on the fence there, folks. You

498
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.039
<v Speaker 1>know I've wanted to detail about marson Kova previously on

499
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 1>the podcast how I feel about that and how I

500
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 1>feel she still needs to be punished, but half of

501
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the punishment that Kellen, Vickers and Groff, etc. Get because

502
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>remember marson Kova, if the story or to be believed,

503
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was sold to Jeffrey Epstein. So she was just a

504
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 1>little kid when she came over here. And Stockholm syndrome

505
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>is a real thing, and when you're put in a

506
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>situation with a narcissist like Jeffrey Epstein, and you're being

507
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>gas lit on a regular basis. Well, upside is gonna

508
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.559
<v Speaker 1>be down, and down is gonna be up. It's gonna

509
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>be you know, your life is gonna be chaotic. So

510
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't hold marson Kova to the same level of

511
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 1>responsibility that I hold Kellen Vickers to, although if marson

512
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Cova does not cooperate then my opinion might change. Then

513
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.039
<v Speaker 1>my opinion might be that she deserves the full weight

514
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 1>of whatever the sentence is because she's had a chance

515
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>here to redeem herself. She's had a chance to come

516
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 1>forward and offer some help to the prosecutors, and she

517
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 1>has not done that, whereas Hallie Robson here has been

518
00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 1>very open about her role within the organization. So I

519
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>think that Goes is a notch in her favor. Right,

520
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 1>you have to give her a check mark in her

521
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>favor for coming forward and speaking on this, because we

522
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>know that there are a lot of people that will

523
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:18.519
<v Speaker 1>not even do that. She was introduced to Epstein in

524
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three by a friend at Royal Palm

525
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Beach High School in Florida, who said she can make

526
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 1>money giving an old guy massages. But when she went

527
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 1>to Epstein's twenty five million dollar mansion in Palm Beach,

528
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 1>he tried to molest her in one of the bedrooms. MS.

529
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Robson thirty three says he was naked on the table.

530
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I remember feeling really scared. He tried to touch me

531
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.119
<v Speaker 1>below the belt. I declined. I told him I didn't

532
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:47.359
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable, and no, it's not going to happen. So

533
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>we see here that Jeffrey Epstein attempts to molest Haley Robson,

534
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.519
<v Speaker 1>and she's not about it right, She's not down with

535
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 1>that part of the scam, with that part of the scheme,

536
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and she tells Jeffrey Epstein that it's not going to happen.

537
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Do not try that again. Don't touch me. But as

538
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 1>you'll see, Jeffrey Epstein decided that even though she wouldn't

539
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 1>be somebody that he per se was molesting, he could

540
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>use her to bring other girls within his atmosphere. And

541
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 1>he was such a predator that he recognized that right away.

542
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 1>At that moment, he was like, Okay, well this isn't

543
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. So if you have any friends and

544
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you bring them to me, I will give you two

545
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. Imagine that's the price Epstein put on these

546
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 1>little girl's innocence, folks, two hundred measlely dollars. Now to

547
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you and me, two hundred bucks. It's a joke, almost, right,

548
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>But when you're a poor kid, and you're coming from

549
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>an impoverished family, and you might be coming from a

550
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 1>broken home, your parents aren't around, your mom has to

551
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 1>work two jobs to support you and your brothers and sisters,

552
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera, someone offers you two hundred bucks

553
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 1>to give them a massage. That's like the lottery. That's

554
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>like you hit the lottery. Because two hundred dollars is

555
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 1>life changing to somebody who's broke. And that is the

556
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 1>amount that this sick, disgusting, twisted bastard put on these

557
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>young girls, innocents, two hundred measly dollars, folks. I would

558
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>recruit recruit girls who were friends. I would casually bring

559
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it up and we would drive together to his house.

560
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I would take I would take them to his room,

561
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 1>and then I'd walk out. Sometimes I would wait by

562
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the pool. And you know, reading this, it really sickens me, right, Robson.

563
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 1>If she was an adult when this was happening and

564
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't a victim herself, I'd want to thrown into

565
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a volcano, a live volcano, as punishment. But I have

566
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to try and temper that anger. And I have to

567
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 1>look at all of the facts like always here on

568
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the Jeffrey Epstein Show, and look at everything into in

569
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 1>context and not let my anger overrun my good sense,

570
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.759
<v Speaker 1>because I did. If we did that, then we'd be

571
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'd be maniacs when it came to this case. Right.

572
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>We have to keep everything into perspective, and we have

573
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to understand that Robson, while what she did was abhorrent

574
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and gross and unforgivable, we have to understand that she

575
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>was a miner who has abused herself. Right, And the

576
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 1>true anger in our ire should be directed at Jeffrey Epstein,

577
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Gilaine Maxwell, the core for the legacy media, and anybody

578
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 1>within the federal government or intelligence agencies that protected these people.

579
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>That's where our anger should be directed. And it should

580
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>be the anger that is hotter than a thousand burning suns.

581
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>When the girls would leave, Jeffrey would come out and

582
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>pay me. I probably recruited twenty four. Those girls brought

583
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 1>other girls too. They were all underage, she says. The

584
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>youngest was fourteen. In Florida, the legal age of consent

585
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>is eighteen, So think about that for a minute. She

586
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>recruited twenty four girls, and then those girls brought other

587
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 1>girls too. So it was definitely a made off kind

588
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 1>of pyramid scheme he was running. We've talked about that

589
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>several times here on the podcast, and it was almost

590
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 1>a cult like with Jeffrey Epstein. He would have all

591
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of these girls. Right, Robson was responsible for twenty four

592
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>girls herself. Now how many of those twenty four girls?

593
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 1>How many girls did they recruit each? Talk about exponential

594
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 1>growth rates, right, These are the kind of numbers that

595
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>would make doctor Fauci blush. Miss Robson says she was

596
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 1>destroyed by guilt every day for years until she realized

597
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>she was also a victim. I was sixteen. He was

598
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 1>the adult. You didn't have asked me to do those things.

599
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>She's one hundred percent right about that. Sixteen years old.

600
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I get it. You know you're a little bit older.

601
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 1>You know you're learning some things in life, but you're

602
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>certainly not capable of dealing with a narcissist like Jeffrey

603
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Epstein and avoiding the web that he weaves. We're asking

604
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot from this young girl. We're asking a whole

605
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>lot from this young girl, folks, all right, And again,

606
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not absolving her of her responsibility for what she did.

607
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not in that business. I'm not a priest.

608
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm not here to absolve anybody of anything. But what

609
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I am here to do is to read in between

610
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 1>the lines like usual, and my anger is squarely focused

611
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 1>on Jeffrey Epstein, Gilain Maxwell, and the rest. Robson is

612
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>somebody who probably I mean obviously I don't know her.

613
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I've never met her or talked to her or anything

614
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like that, but she's probably somebody who's dealing with her

615
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>own issues because of this whole entire situation. And I

616
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 1>would hope that she would reach out to the authorities,

617
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.159
<v Speaker 1>come forward, sit down with them, go under oath, and

618
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>let them know everything that she knows, even if she's

619
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>talked to the authorities before, like in Palm Beach. I'm

620
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 1>talking about sitting down with the federal prosecutors going through

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<v Speaker 1>it all again, and if she needs to be helped,

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<v Speaker 1>if she needs to get some sort of trauma help

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<v Speaker 1>or PTSD help. I believe that that should be provided

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<v Speaker 1>to her. You know, she was a kid when she

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<v Speaker 1>was abused, and you know, as human beings, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to do our best to be compassionate

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<v Speaker 1>in situations like this. Right again, it's a very slippery slope.

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<v Speaker 1>The Gripping four part Netflix series tells how Epstein, who

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<v Speaker 1>killed himself in jail last summer after being arrested on

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<v Speaker 1>child sex charges, set up a sophisticated web of recruiters,

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<v Speaker 1>using girls to lure their friends from at least four

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<v Speaker 1>high schools near his home. Epstein prayed on girls from

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<v Speaker 1>difficult backgrounds. And again, I've pointed this out several times,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just it's been a dead end for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been able to chase any leads down that

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<v Speaker 1>have been a concrete that have you know, been something

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<v Speaker 1>that has been worthwhile even And that is that angle

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<v Speaker 1>is if Jeffrey Epstein was doing this in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and he was doing it in Palm Beach, chances are

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing it in New Mexico as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico has a very big problem with Indigenous girls

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<v Speaker 1>going missing. And Albuquerque in general has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>really poor areas, so I think it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>fertile hunting ground for Jeffrey Epstein and his associates. Although

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot find anything saying that that occurred in Santa Fe,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in Albuquerque as well, but my gut tells

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<v Speaker 1>me it did. Obviously, I have no evidence to prove that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the same blueprint he's used elsewhere. What would

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<v Speaker 1>make us think that he is not going to use

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<v Speaker 1>the same blueprint with the in the borders of New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>especially how politically juiced he was there. Psychologist Catherine Stamlis

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<v Speaker 1>described Epstein's recruitment system as a sexual pyramid scheme, saying

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<v Speaker 1>he was a brilliant, narcisistic billionaire. I don't believe he

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<v Speaker 1>was not brilliant. Sorry, he was narcissistic, no doubt about it,

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<v Speaker 1>But he was not brilliant. Adolescents could not cope with that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the narcissism they could not cope with. And I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say brilliant because he's not brilliant. He was devious and

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<v Speaker 1>he was manipulative, but he was not brilliant, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>not in the least the show's director, Lisa Bryant, who

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<v Speaker 1>spent twenty months making Filthy Rich, used a secret computer

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<v Speaker 1>server and kept all footage under lock and key for

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<v Speaker 1>fear of retribution from the billionaire pedophile. The program claims

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<v Speaker 1>he kept surveillance. It's from all those homes to blackmail

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<v Speaker 1>the rich and powerful. Well, we've known that from the beginning, folks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we've known that, and we know that it's a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>We know it's not speculation at this point. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>what the documentary is going to do is it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to show that two people who might not have known,

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<v Speaker 1>people who might not have searched out the content previously.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, the more outrage that we can we can

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<v Speaker 1>get in this case, the better because without the outrage,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be no movement. And we all know

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<v Speaker 1>that people like Berman and the attorney generals and district attorneys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's their public image is very important to them. So

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<v Speaker 1>as long as we keep getting the outcry to get

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<v Speaker 1>to these levels where we see it at right now

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<v Speaker 1>from the public who has had enough of seeing these

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<v Speaker 1>young ladies get screwed over by not only Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>but by the government, well, the better chance we have

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<v Speaker 1>for justice taking place in this case. Ms. Bryan said,

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<v Speaker 1>we started working on this before Epstein was arrested. He

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<v Speaker 1>proved time and again that power and money helped him

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<v Speaker 1>evade justice. We knew we couldn't be too careful. She's

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<v Speaker 1>right about that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein's that he was

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of guy and his associates are those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of people You do not know who you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>until you're dealing with them, and for some people, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very scary situation. Right There are some people that

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<v Speaker 1>will not talk about things like this because they are

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<v Speaker 1>very scared of retribution. There are people that don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to take the chance of having to deal with the blowback.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get it. Not everybody's willing to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the front line. Me personally, I don't care about blowback.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about any of these people. There is

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<v Speaker 1>not one single person that is ever associated with Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein that pumps one bit of fear into my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero fear. I don't. These people, to me are the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest lay asses in the history of the world. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the sort of people that need to be crushed

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<v Speaker 1>under heel. The days of them, making others fear them.

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<v Speaker 1>Those days are over, folks, because the year twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the year the predator turns into the prey.

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Roberts, the woman who claims Epstein forced her to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex with Prince Andrew three times, the first when

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<v Speaker 1>she was just seventeen in two thousand and one, also

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<v Speaker 1>speaks out in the documentary. Prince Andrew has denied that

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<v Speaker 1>and claims that no wrongdoing has ever occurred. During his

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<v Speaker 1>infamous car crash interview on BBC's Newsnight last November, he

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<v Speaker 1>denied ever knowing Miss Roberts. Yeah, you know, the picture

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<v Speaker 1>was faked. All that stuff just all made up. Virginia's

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<v Speaker 1>story is just all made up, and we should believe this.

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<v Speaker 1>We should believe the Joe Exotic of the royal family

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<v Speaker 1>because he is a very honorable man. You know. He

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<v Speaker 1>told us that, and he wears the honorable kit when

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<v Speaker 1>he wants us to think he's honorable. Frickin clown. She

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<v Speaker 1>was interviewed by Netflix two days after the Newsnight program

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<v Speaker 1>aired and says, I'm watching it on my tablet. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to throw my tablet in the pool as a victim.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing you ask for is some acknowledgment, some remorse.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, Prince Andrew, didn't have any remorse at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And that statement right there is why I have zero

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<v Speaker 1>remorse for any of these people. No quarter asked, no

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<v Speaker 1>quarter given. Game on, because these people play for keeps, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not out here, they're not playing around with the survivors.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not you know, they weren't messing around while they

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<v Speaker 1>were out here conducting their affairs, So they must be

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<v Speaker 1>met with the same sort of aggression. They must be

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<v Speaker 1>met with this same sort of fire. The best defense

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<v Speaker 1>is offense, and in this case that is certainly proven

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<v Speaker 1>to be true. If you'd like to contact me, you

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<v Speaker 1>could do that at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's b O B B Y c A p U

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<v Speaker 1>c c I at ProtonMail dot com. You can also

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<v Speaker 1>find me on Twitter at b O B B y

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