Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
Speaker 1: In today's episode, we're gonna take a swim across the
Speaker 1: pond and we're gonna check in on the Joe Exotic
Speaker 1: of the Windsor family and see what Prince Andrew's bitch
Speaker 1: ass is getting up to now. And according to new reports,
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew and the Royal Family, well, they're facing the
Speaker 1: prospect of another movie coming out that is absolutely bashing
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and of
Speaker 1: course for the Royal Family, that's not good news. They
Speaker 1: already are facing a slew of allegations when it comes
Speaker 1: to Prince Andrew. They already have multiple projects that they're
Speaker 1: dealing with that have been made or that are being made,
Speaker 1: and the last thing they want is another project coming
Speaker 1: out that puts Prince Andrew and the Royal Family in
Speaker 1: a bad light, and that's exactly what this is going
Speaker 1: to do. So with that said, why don't we dive
Speaker 1: in to this article from the Daily Mail and let's
Speaker 1: see what they have for us as far as Prince
Speaker 1: Andrew and this new project that's allegedly about to be
Speaker 1: in production and the headline Prince Andrew faces a third
Speaker 1: downfall film as firm working closely with Netflix explores Duke
Speaker 1: of York's character arc from Queen's favorite son to his
Speaker 1: scandals friendship with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored
Speaker 1: by Natasha Livingston. Prince Andrew's Fall from Grace is to
Speaker 1: be turned into a major documentary by a film company
Speaker 1: working closely with Netflix. The Mail on Sunday understands the film.
Speaker 1: We'll explore the Duke of York's character arc from a
Speaker 1: war hero and the Queen's favorite to the scandal over
Speaker 1: his close friendship with pedophile sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, which
Speaker 1: led to his departure from royal duties in twenty nineteen. Well,
Speaker 1: not just his friendship. Let's not forget the allegations, very
Speaker 1: serious allegations were made against Prince Andrew, and while the
Speaker 1: actual act of him having sex with Virginia was not
Speaker 1: witnessed by anybody that has come forward, we have corroboration
Speaker 1: that they were seen together. Not only do we have
Speaker 1: the picture. We heard from Joanna Schoberg, we have heard
Speaker 1: from mister Scully, and we have heard from other people
Speaker 1: that Virginia and Prince Andrew were together. And then on
Speaker 1: the flip side of that, what have we heard from
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew, Well, a bunch of bs right, the picture
Speaker 1: is not real, that's not me, my fingers are too fat,
Speaker 1: and the whole litany of other excuses that even fail
Speaker 1: a basic sniff test. I mean, does anybody believe that
Speaker 1: the Prince of England was at the pizza place in Woking?
Speaker 1: Give me a break already, That never happened. I have
Speaker 1: a hard time believing Captain Royal Douche over here has
Speaker 1: ever been into a pizza shop ever in his life. Now,
Speaker 1: he might have ordered pizza or sent somebody else to
Speaker 1: go get it for him, but did he go to
Speaker 1: the pizza shop himself, sit down, get himself a slice
Speaker 1: nice coca cola? I highly doubt it. The program is
Speaker 1: being made by the award winning production company Sandpaper Films,
Speaker 1: which is known for working with top streaming services Netflix,
Speaker 1: Apple and Amazon. And while I understand why they'd want to,
Speaker 1: you know, have another documentary out there about Prince Andrew,
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're going to be able to
Speaker 1: cover any road that hasn't already been traveled. So I
Speaker 1: doubt it'll be anything new, but it's always nice when
Speaker 1: there's fresh embarrassment for the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family.
Speaker 1: Right anytime that this guy can be embarrassed, anytime that
Speaker 1: he can be outed once again as the dirt bag
Speaker 1: Howard that he is. I think it's a good idea
Speaker 1: because people need to be aware of scumbags like Prince
Speaker 1: Andrew and that they're BS narratives are just that BS narratives.
Speaker 1: Sandpaper has already made several films about the royal family,
Speaker 1: including the two thousand and seven teen film Diana Seven Days,
Speaker 1: which analyzed her final days and featured interviews with Prince
Speaker 1: William and Prince Harry. So I'm not really hip on
Speaker 1: any of these royal movies. As you all know, I
Speaker 1: really don't care about the royal family one way or
Speaker 1: the other. And if it wasn't for this whole entire
Speaker 1: Epstein controversy, I wouldn't talk about the royal family at all.
Speaker 1: The days of me caring about the King and the
Speaker 1: Queen that shit ended in seventeen seventy six. I have
Speaker 1: no desire to care or even think about what these
Speaker 1: scumbag royals have to say or what they think, and
Speaker 1: I find it beyond bizarre that anybody cares what these
Speaker 1: people think. At this point, We're in the year twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four and we're still worried about what some weird
Speaker 1: ass royal has to say. Other productions tackled the war
Speaker 1: crimes trial of genocidal Bosnian Sir military leader Ratko Miledic
Speaker 1: and the twenty twelve Roschdelle sex trafficking ring. So this
Speaker 1: company is not strangers to making documentaries like this, and
Speaker 1: now they have their sights set on the Joe Exotic
Speaker 1: of the Windsor family, so I'm interested to see what
Speaker 1: they come up with. I don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: anything groundbreaking, obviously, but it's always fun to watch Prince
Speaker 1: Andrew squirm. And I'd be lying to you all if
Speaker 1: I said I didn't get a kick out of it.
Speaker 1: Anytime you have somebody like this who has had the
Speaker 1: whole entire world given to them and they've squandered it,
Speaker 1: you can expect a shock and awe campaign of mockery
Speaker 1: coming from me. You know how hard the rest of
Speaker 1: us have to work just to pay our bills, to
Speaker 1: put food on the table, to make sure that our
Speaker 1: families are doing okay. And this guy's out here hanging
Speaker 1: out with Epstein, hanging out with arms dealers, hanging out
Speaker 1: with Goddafi and nobody gives a shit. Ah, you know,
Speaker 1: that's just Prince Andrew, good old Prince Andrew. Kind of
Speaker 1: like the old days when you had a touchy uncle. Huh,
Speaker 1: that's just Uncle so and so. He's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: He likes to touch you. Wait, what what does that
Speaker 1: even mean? Shouldn't uncle Touchy not be invited to any
Speaker 1: more of the family functions. I mean, in the real world,
Speaker 1: that's what happens. But when you're a royal and you're
Speaker 1: a Prince Andrew, you have a different set of rules
Speaker 1: that you live by. Producers are said to be keen
Speaker 1: to approach Andrew's former private secretary, Alistair Watson, who worked
Speaker 1: for the duke between two thousand and three to twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: if he cooperated. Insiders say this could be bad news
Speaker 1: for the Duke, as mister Watson knows where the bodies
Speaker 1: are buried. Well, yeah, he would know, he was the
Speaker 1: head of security. We've had several people come out now
Speaker 1: and talk about Prince Andrew's behavior while he was in
Speaker 1: their charge, whether it was a maid, whether it was
Speaker 1: a housekeeper, whether it was security. We've heard from so
Speaker 1: many people about this man's character, or should I say
Speaker 1: lack thereof, So why should anybody be surprised about these
Speaker 1: allegations When you go through your whole entire life and
Speaker 1: nobody ever tells you know, and you're able to do
Speaker 1: whatever you want whenever you want to do it. Do
Speaker 1: you really think that you're going to stop at a
Speaker 1: point such as this when we're talking about a girl
Speaker 1: that looks young and Prince Andrew's dumbass, Well, he'll just
Speaker 1: say Jeffrey told me that she was over age. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: because you know, we should be believing Jeffrey Epstein. So
Speaker 1: the whole entire BS story that Prince Andrew packaged to
Speaker 1: us is exactly that BS. And his only hope would
Speaker 1: have been to say that he was blackmailed from the
Speaker 1: very beginning. But since he didn't do that, since he
Speaker 1: never came out and said that, well I wouldn't believe
Speaker 1: him now if he even tried to change it up.
Speaker 1: Mister Watson was hired to support the Duke in his
Speaker 1: position as UK Trade Envoy, where he represented the government
Speaker 1: around the world after leaving the Royal Navy in two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. The Duke faced a series of controversies
Speaker 1: in the role, including claims he went on holiday with
Speaker 1: a Libyan gun smuggler. Andrew quit the role in twenty
Speaker 1: eleven after stories broke about him visiting convicted pedophile Epstein
Speaker 1: at his home in New York after he was released
Speaker 1: from jail. And that's another thing we have to remember.
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew wasn't hanging out with Epstein just before he
Speaker 1: went to jail. It was after, so the whole entire
Speaker 1: I had no idea what he was up to, who
Speaker 1: he was. I don't buy that now. If other people
Speaker 1: want to buy it, that's fine. I've said it a
Speaker 1: million times. I'm not here to convince anybody as shit.
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you how I see it, and
Speaker 1: the way that I see this whole entire ordeal breaking,
Speaker 1: and the way it's breaking is the way it's broke
Speaker 1: from the very beginning, and that's bad. Respected author Andrew Lowney,
Speaker 1: who has written best selling biographies of Lord mount Batten
Speaker 1: and the Duke of Windsor, is understood to be acting
Speaker 1: as a consultant for the documentary. He is also writing
Speaker 1: a biography of Prince Andrew and his former wife Sarah
Speaker 1: Ferguson that will look closely at the Duke of York's
Speaker 1: time as Trade Envoy. I mean, the guy has nothing
Speaker 1: else to rest his laurels on, right, Trade Envoy had
Speaker 1: a little bit of time fighting over in the Falklands,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's some big war hero,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing. But besides that, what does
Speaker 1: he really have to rest his hat on. I'm sure
Speaker 1: most of you out there have some achievements. You've done
Speaker 1: things in your life that you're proud of, things that
Speaker 1: your parents are proud of. Well, Prince Andrew, what exactly
Speaker 1: has he accomplished besides being born or royal and Lord Mountbatten.
Speaker 1: Wasn't he a diddler too? Wasn't he out here doing
Speaker 1: the same ass shit? Oh gross ass son of a
Speaker 1: bitch last night? Mister Lowney told mos he believes this
Speaker 1: period is still murky due to government documents being kept
Speaker 1: secret until twenty sixty five. I think there are a
Speaker 1: lot of unanswered questions, he said. It is understood that
Speaker 1: the new documentary will not be sensationalist nor focus solely
Speaker 1: on the Duke's disastrous Newsnight interview in twenty nineteen. Well,
Speaker 1: that's good, We've had plenty to focus on that. Let's
Speaker 1: get some of the other story, right, Let's get some
Speaker 1: of the background story. Let's hear from some of the
Speaker 1: people that were around this son of a bitch, and
Speaker 1: let's hear what they have to say. Nevertheless, news of
Speaker 1: the film will further diminish hopes within the Palace that
Speaker 1: the fur around Prince Andrew, who has always denied any wrongdoing,
Speaker 1: might fade from public imagination. Zero chance that's ever going
Speaker 1: to happen. Until he steps up, speaks to the FBI
Speaker 1: and does the right, honorable thing like he said he
Speaker 1: would do, then you can expect a full on shock
Speaker 1: and all campaign, at least on this podcast. The Palace
Speaker 1: is already braced for two forthcoming television dramas that will
Speaker 1: recreate the Newsnight interview. Netflix film Scoop finished filming last year,
Speaker 1: and Amazon Primes A Very Royal Scandal, is understood to
Speaker 1: be just a few months behind. It follows a difficult
Speaker 1: start to the year for the Duke after newly released
Speaker 1: court documents released in the US alleges that Andrew had
Speaker 1: an orgy with underage girls and touched the woman's breast
Speaker 1: while posing with a puppet of himself. The controversy heat
Speaker 1: pressure on King Charles to evict his brother from Royal
Speaker 1: Lodge and Windsor, the thirty room property where he lives
Speaker 1: with his ex wife Sarah, who last week revealed she
Speaker 1: has skin cancer. Sandpaper Films did not respond to a
Speaker 1: request for comment. So I'm not shocked at all to
Speaker 1: hear this. And my guess is we're gonna see more
Speaker 1: movies and shows and the rest of it about this
Speaker 1: whole ordeal as time arches on, because the interest is
Speaker 1: still there. You know what's unfortunate though, that the interest
Speaker 1: from the DOJ is no longer there, because if it was, well,
Speaker 1: all of these people that we're working with them, all
Speaker 1: of his co conspirators, starting with Sarah Kellen Vickers, would
Speaker 1: be arrested. And until that happens, me, my big mouth
Speaker 1: and my beard will be banging on about it from
Speaker 1: every single mountaintop that I can get my feet on.
Speaker 1: All Right, folks, that's gonna do it for this one.
Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
Speaker 1: be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. I'm sure that most
Speaker 1: of you are aware that there is a TV show
Speaker 1: on Netflix called The Crown, and that TV show is
Speaker 1: a portrayal of the royal family of England. Well conveniently,
Speaker 1: in this final season, this fifth season, the producers of
Speaker 1: this show have decided that they're just gonna leave out
Speaker 1: the whole entire episode between Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: and what Prince Andrew was accused of, because you know,
Speaker 1: that's not relevant or anything, especially when you're trying to
Speaker 1: throw a shine job on the monarchy itself. And like
Speaker 1: I've said many times before, the whole entire monarchy is gross,
Speaker 1: every last one of them. I know that offends people
Speaker 1: over in the UK, at least some people, But for me,
Speaker 1: I have no use for any of these folks. I
Speaker 1: look at them like the feckless ass politicians that have
Speaker 1: been elected to supposedly represent me. They don't represent me,
Speaker 1: just like the royals don't represent a lot of people
Speaker 1: from the UK. And when you're gonna whitewash shit and
Speaker 1: leave out a big story, like you know, Epstein and
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew. How's anyone supposed to take dumbass show seriously?
Speaker 1: Today's article is from Newsweek and the author of this
Speaker 1: article is Jack Royston. The final season of The Crown
Speaker 1: will not cover Prince Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, despite
Speaker 1: the major impact it would go on to have on
Speaker 1: the monarchy. So ask yourselves, why not? Why wouldn't they
Speaker 1: do that? And of course they're gonna give you all
Speaker 1: kinds of BS reasons, but the real reason is they
Speaker 1: didn't want to bring more shame on the King and
Speaker 1: on the Crown. But the truth is the truth, and
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew is what he is and no amount of
Speaker 1: whitewashing is ever going to change that, because future generations
Speaker 1: are going to know that Prince Andrew aka the Joe
Speaker 1: Exotic of the Windsor family was a goddamn disgrace, no
Speaker 1: matter how much they try to protect them. Peter Morgan,
Speaker 1: the show's creator, has indicated that he will not touch
Speaker 1: one of the biggest scandals to hit the British royal
Speaker 1: family in modern times. Well that's because he doesn't care. Okay,
Speaker 1: he doesn't care. This shows about whitewashing and gobbling the
Speaker 1: knob of the Royals as a whole. And you know
Speaker 1: that the Royal boot liquors that are in the media
Speaker 1: are going to do whatever they can to help safeguard
Speaker 1: their friends in the Royal family. Look at what ABC
Speaker 1: News did with Amy Robach and with the tapes that
Speaker 1: she had from her interview with Virginia Roberts. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they quashed them, right, And what was the reasoning? They
Speaker 1: didn't want to lose access to the Royals? Can you
Speaker 1: imagine ABC News would prefer to have access to the
Speaker 1: Royals then tell you about Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. Keep that
Speaker 1: in mind, because remember, lies of omission are still lies.
Speaker 1: And if they lie to you about this, what else
Speaker 1: are they lying to you about. The six season covers
Speaker 1: the years nineteen ninety seven to two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: including the key period in which Virginia Roberts says she
Speaker 1: was forced to have sex with Andrew in London, New
Speaker 1: York and the British Virgin Islands in two thousand and one. No,
Speaker 1: the US Virgin Islands, not the British Virgin Islands. The
Speaker 1: Prince denies the allegations, but settled out of court for
Speaker 1: an undisclosed sum without admitting liability. Yeah, because that's what
Speaker 1: innocent people do, right, I'm not liable for this. I
Speaker 1: didn't do this. But you know what, here's a cool
Speaker 1: seventeen million. Let's just call it a day now. If
Speaker 1: you're Leon Black, that's acceptable, right, because you have a
Speaker 1: bunch of dough. Prince Andrew is not that guy. All
Speaker 1: of his money comes from other people. He doesn't get
Speaker 1: up every morning, he doesn't go to work, He don't
Speaker 1: strop on old work boots, he don't do nothing of
Speaker 1: the sort. You know what this man does. He griffs.
Speaker 1: That's what he's done his whole entire life. His claim
Speaker 1: to fame is that he's brought absolute embarrassment on the
Speaker 1: royal family. That's his claim to fame. Asked about Andrew,
Speaker 1: Morgan told Variety simply haven't gone anywhere near him? Well
Speaker 1: why not, mister Morgan. Don't you think people need to
Speaker 1: know what happened? Don't you want to tell the actual
Speaker 1: history and let the truth reflect that one explanation? Maybe
Speaker 1: the challenge of depicting events in a context where Andrew
Speaker 1: has denied so much of Robert's account, stating that he
Speaker 1: never met her and indicating through lawyers that he believes
Speaker 1: it is at least possible a famous picture of him
Speaker 1: with an arm around her is a fake. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's possible that I have a rich uncle who is
Speaker 1: also the Sultan of BRUNEI is it likely. No, just
Speaker 1: like it's not likely here that that picture was fake.
Speaker 1: We've been through this a million times now and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna cover that ground again. But all of the
Speaker 1: people who have looked at the picture, who have been
Speaker 1: in the know, who know what they're talking about, have
Speaker 1: all said that the picture was real, it was legit,
Speaker 1: and that picture was taken, he told the BBC's Newsnight
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen when asked if he had had sex
Speaker 1: with Roberts. No, and without putting too fine a point
Speaker 1: on it, if you're a man, it is a positive
Speaker 1: act to have said with somebody. You have to have
Speaker 1: to take some sort of positive action. And so therefore
Speaker 1: if you try to forget, it's very difficult to try
Speaker 1: and forget a positive action. And I do not remember anything.
Speaker 1: Talk about the world's worst denial, and the fact that
Speaker 1: anybody would give that credence is crazy. Anyone who thinks
Speaker 1: that Prince Andrew's telling the truth. After listening to that
Speaker 1: Newsnight interview, should really go and have their head examined
Speaker 1: by the best mental health doctor on the planet, whoever
Speaker 1: that might be, because unless you're suffering from CTE like
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, I don't know how you could listen to
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew and not just be straight up disgusted. I can't.
Speaker 1: I've racked my brain and thinking, oh, when the first allegations,
Speaker 1: When the first allegations came out, originally I went, well,
Speaker 1: that's a bit strange. I don't remember this. And I've
Speaker 1: been through it and through it and through it over
Speaker 1: and over and over again and know nothing. It just
Speaker 1: never happened. Imagine this scumbag actually thinking people are gonna
Speaker 1: believe this. BS. Nobody believes you, Prince Andrew. They don't
Speaker 1: believe you. In Malli, they don't believe you. In Pakistan,
Speaker 1: they don't believe you. In India, they don't believe you.
Speaker 1: In America, they don't believe you. Anywhere. Hell, even the
Speaker 1: bears in the Arctic don't believe you. However, the existence
Speaker 1: of his friendship with Epstein and Glenn Maxwell sentenced to
Speaker 1: twenty years in prison for sex trafficking offenses in June
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Is beyond a doubt. Yeah, no shit,
Speaker 1: all of it's beyond the doubt. And it's pretty absurd
Speaker 1: that they'd leave this whole entire chapter out of this show. Now,
Speaker 1: like I said before, I don't watch this show personally.
Speaker 1: I've never watched one episode even but I would think
Speaker 1: that they're trying to tell with historical accuracy the story
Speaker 1: of the Windsor family, Right, Isn't that the whole purpose?
Speaker 1: But you're gonna leave this gigantic part out. Why would
Speaker 1: you do that? What's the point in doing that? What
Speaker 1: are you trying to accomplish by doing that? Are you
Speaker 1: trying to demean what Virginia had to say? Are you
Speaker 1: trying to demean the suffering that the survivors went through.
Speaker 1: We're going to need some answers from the creators of
Speaker 1: this show, and I don't want to hear any nonsense
Speaker 1: about Oh well, it was a sensitive topic. Andrew was
Speaker 1: also photographed on a yacht surrounded by topless women while
Speaker 1: holidaying in Fouquet, Thailand, with Epstein and Maxwell in January
Speaker 1: of two thousand and one. Now we all know what
Speaker 1: goes on in Thailand. Why is a grown ass man
Speaker 1: going to Thailand for quote unquote party time. Especially when
Speaker 1: you're this rich, they could go anywhere they want. But
Speaker 1: we all know that Epstein had his proclivities, right, So
Speaker 1: what exactly was Epstein up to in Thailand? And what
Speaker 1: was Prince Andrew up to while he was hanging out
Speaker 1: with him? And during that holiday he went to a
Speaker 1: red light district bar called Patong's Hottest Girls number one
Speaker 1: for adult entertainment according to biography Prince Andrew, Epstein, Maxwell
Speaker 1: and the Palace by Nigel Cawthorne. So what were they
Speaker 1: doing there? Why would Prince Andrew be in Thailand? You
Speaker 1: have nowhere else to be, nothing better to do as
Speaker 1: the Prince of the Blood. And furthermore, why are you
Speaker 1: there with somebody who was like Jeffrey Epstein. We all
Speaker 1: knew what he was. Even back then people might act
Speaker 1: like they didn't know what he was, but they knew.
Speaker 1: They definitely knew. There was a lot of rumors at
Speaker 1: the time, There were allegations at the time, and there
Speaker 1: were even women who have come forward at the time,
Speaker 1: and guess what those women, well, they were ignored. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew's benefiting from this relationship getting rich from this
Speaker 1: relationship and building all kinds of contacts on the back
Speaker 1: of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. But nah, let's not
Speaker 1: talk about it in this dumb ass show. Andrew is
Speaker 1: not the only controversial subject Morgan has swerved with a
Speaker 1: showrunner appearing to indicate that he will focus more on
Speaker 1: the air Prince William rather than on the spare Prince Harry.
Speaker 1: The show's narrative has always been centered around the direct
Speaker 1: line of succession Elizabeth, Charles and William. I do little
Speaker 1: bits of dramatization of Harry, but mainly only in relationship
Speaker 1: to William, Morgan told Variety, So any minuscule chance that
Speaker 1: I might have had to ever watch this show has
Speaker 1: now totally been thrown right out the window. I have
Speaker 1: no desire to watch a show that's going to whitewash
Speaker 1: what Prince Andrew was up to. Now, you don't have
Speaker 1: to do it to a point where you're accusing him
Speaker 1: of being guilty, but you should talk about the controversy
Speaker 1: at the very least, and then let people come to
Speaker 1: their own conclusions. But when you start whitewashing things, you
Speaker 1: start leaving things out and you start protecting people like
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew and the royal family. Well, you're going to
Speaker 1: leave yourself open to criticism from people who are following along,
Speaker 1: and in my opinion, that sort of criticism is certainly
Speaker 1: justified considering just how heavy this topic is and how
Speaker 1: many people were hurt directly and indirectly because of Prince
Speaker 1: Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. I would think that that
Speaker 1: would warrant some screen time, but I guess the director
Speaker 1: here and the creators, well, they have better things to do.
Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode, including
Speaker 1: my contact information, can be found in the description box.
Speaker 1: So the article is from the Daily Mail and the
Speaker 1: headline is woman admits she was a schoolgirl pimp who
Speaker 1: procured twenty four friends as young as fourteen for pedophile
Speaker 1: billionaire Jeffrey Epstein and was paid two hundred dollars for
Speaker 1: each victim. Well, it's nice to see that they call
Speaker 1: them a pedophile in the headline at least, right, you know,
Speaker 1: a snake is a snake, a goat is a goat,
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein's a pedophile. This article was authored by
Speaker 1: Caroline Graham. A woman has admitted procuring two dozen schoolgirl friends,
Speaker 1: some as young as fourteen, for file billionaire Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: and being paid two hundred dollars for each of the victims. Now,
Speaker 1: the person we're talking about in this article is Hailey Robson,
Speaker 1: and we have to remember that she was only sixteen
Speaker 1: when she was first recruited as well. Right, So, as
Speaker 1: much as I'd like to go scorched earth on her,
Speaker 1: I think we have to keep that in mind and
Speaker 1: understand the psychology behind all of this. Again, I'm certainly
Speaker 1: not a psychologist, and I'm not qualified to even begin
Speaker 1: to try and look at it from that perspective clinically,
Speaker 1: but there is zero doubt that she was groomed and
Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein used his narcissistic charm to get her
Speaker 1: to do what he wanted her to do. In a
Speaker 1: harrowing interview for a new Netflix documentary series, Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: Filthy Rich, which premieres on Wednesday, Tearful, Hailey Robson is
Speaker 1: the first of Epstein's so called recruiters to admit introducing
Speaker 1: children into his twisted sexual pyramid scheme for money. Now,
Speaker 1: for those of us who have been following the case
Speaker 1: for quite some time. This does not come as a
Speaker 1: shock to us. We know who Hailey Robson is, we
Speaker 1: know what her role has been, and we've had time
Speaker 1: to digest it, right. But people who are going to
Speaker 1: watch this documentary for the first time on Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: I know several of them, it's going to come as
Speaker 1: a shock to them to see some of these things
Speaker 1: that were going on in the Jeffrey Epstein case, especially
Speaker 1: the first time around. And it's going to be a
Speaker 1: shock for them to see that people actually knew that
Speaker 1: this was occurring and it was still able to happen. Now,
Speaker 1: hopefully what this documentary does is it spurs people to
Speaker 1: be more interested in the case and to search out
Speaker 1: the deeper facts, and that is what I hope the
Speaker 1: only thing and I'm hoping for this documentary. You know,
Speaker 1: I go into these kind of things and I'm very
Speaker 1: skeptical until I watch them because a lot of times
Speaker 1: they turn into hit pieces or they turn into the
Speaker 1: documentaries that veer off into la la land, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So obviously I have not seen this documentary yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what's going to occur here,
Speaker 1: but I'm very interested to see how they present things
Speaker 1: for the unsullied, and the unsullied if you're not aware.
Speaker 1: For me, that's what I call people who are not
Speaker 1: locked into this case. I call them the unsullied because
Speaker 1: they don't know all of the nuances and all of
Speaker 1: the deep, deep rabbit hole type situations we've been dealing
Speaker 1: with in this case. So I'm sure a lot of them,
Speaker 1: the unsullied, are going to watch this Netflix documentary and
Speaker 1: their interest is going to be sparked, and they're going
Speaker 1: to search out other content and they're going to search
Speaker 1: out more information and hopefully they find themselves here at
Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein Podcast, the Jeffrey Epstein Show, that way
Speaker 1: that they can go a little bit deeper than just
Speaker 1: the surface. Right. But when people hear from Haley Robson
Speaker 1: for this first time around, and they see her on
Speaker 1: screen and they realize that she was, you know, bringing
Speaker 1: girls fourteen years old to Jeffrey Epstein, what it's going
Speaker 1: to do is bug their eyes right out of their
Speaker 1: head because a lot of people don't even understand that
Speaker 1: this is going on. And when I say a lot
Speaker 1: of people, folks, that was even me until I started
Speaker 1: researching this case, I had no idea how big of
Speaker 1: a problem all of this was. So that's my hope
Speaker 1: for the Netflix documentary. My hope is that it spurs interest,
Speaker 1: and due to that interest, there is even more public
Speaker 1: outcry for tangible action to be taken Miss Robson. Miss Robson,
Speaker 1: who was sixteen when she began working for Epstein, says
Speaker 1: she was racked with guilt for years until she realized
Speaker 1: that she was also a victim. Look, this is the
Speaker 1: thing with her, right, It's just like with Nadia marson Cova.
Speaker 1: It's one of those slippery slopes. You want her to
Speaker 1: face justice for what she did. But if she was
Speaker 1: a child herself and she was being abused, well, I
Speaker 1: am certainly not qualified to go down that road and
Speaker 1: go into all of the nuances of what would make
Speaker 1: her completely culpable in a situation like that. So all
Speaker 1: I have to work on is my opinion and what
Speaker 1: my gut tells me. And what my gut tells me
Speaker 1: with somebody like Hayley Robson is that when she was
Speaker 1: committing these crimes of procuring these young girls, she was
Speaker 1: only sixteen herself. So how do you punish somebody like that.
Speaker 1: What is the proper punishment for somebody like that? Again,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm qualified to even begin to
Speaker 1: try and find find a proper resolution for a situation
Speaker 1: like that. I don't have the answers there, folks. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I mean, my opinion is that anybody who was involved
Speaker 1: to any degree has to face some sort of justice
Speaker 1: unless they come forward and they tell everything that they
Speaker 1: know about the case. Then if you're a cooperating witness,
Speaker 1: then that's the only way I think you should get
Speaker 1: any leniency. But when it comes to people like Hayley
Speaker 1: Robson who was sixteen when this started and it occurred,
Speaker 1: and marson Kova, I'm on the fence there, folks. You
Speaker 1: know I've wanted to detail about marson Kova previously on
Speaker 1: the podcast how I feel about that and how I
Speaker 1: feel she still needs to be punished, but half of
Speaker 1: the punishment that Kellen, Vickers and Groff, etc. Get because
Speaker 1: remember marson Kova, if the story or to be believed,
Speaker 1: was sold to Jeffrey Epstein. So she was just a
Speaker 1: little kid when she came over here. And Stockholm syndrome
Speaker 1: is a real thing, and when you're put in a
Speaker 1: situation with a narcissist like Jeffrey Epstein, and you're being
Speaker 1: gas lit on a regular basis. Well, upside is gonna
Speaker 1: be down, and down is gonna be up. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be you know, your life is gonna be chaotic. So
Speaker 1: I can't hold marson Kova to the same level of
Speaker 1: responsibility that I hold Kellen Vickers to, although if marson
Speaker 1: Cova does not cooperate then my opinion might change. Then
Speaker 1: my opinion might be that she deserves the full weight
Speaker 1: of whatever the sentence is because she's had a chance
Speaker 1: here to redeem herself. She's had a chance to come
Speaker 1: forward and offer some help to the prosecutors, and she
Speaker 1: has not done that, whereas Hallie Robson here has been
Speaker 1: very open about her role within the organization. So I
Speaker 1: think that Goes is a notch in her favor. Right,
Speaker 1: you have to give her a check mark in her
Speaker 1: favor for coming forward and speaking on this, because we
Speaker 1: know that there are a lot of people that will
Speaker 1: not even do that. She was introduced to Epstein in
Speaker 1: two thousand and three by a friend at Royal Palm
Speaker 1: Beach High School in Florida, who said she can make
Speaker 1: money giving an old guy massages. But when she went
Speaker 1: to Epstein's twenty five million dollar mansion in Palm Beach,
Speaker 1: he tried to molest her in one of the bedrooms. MS.
Speaker 1: Robson thirty three says he was naked on the table.
Speaker 1: I remember feeling really scared. He tried to touch me
Speaker 1: below the belt. I declined. I told him I didn't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, and no, it's not going to happen. So
Speaker 1: we see here that Jeffrey Epstein attempts to molest Haley Robson,
Speaker 1: and she's not about it right, She's not down with
Speaker 1: that part of the scam, with that part of the scheme,
Speaker 1: and she tells Jeffrey Epstein that it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Do not try that again. Don't touch me. But as
Speaker 1: you'll see, Jeffrey Epstein decided that even though she wouldn't
Speaker 1: be somebody that he per se was molesting, he could
Speaker 1: use her to bring other girls within his atmosphere. And
Speaker 1: he was such a predator that he recognized that right away.
Speaker 1: At that moment, he was like, Okay, well this isn't
Speaker 1: going to happen. So if you have any friends and
Speaker 1: you bring them to me, I will give you two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Imagine that's the price Epstein put on these
Speaker 1: little girl's innocence, folks, two hundred measlely dollars. Now to
Speaker 1: you and me, two hundred bucks. It's a joke, almost, right,
Speaker 1: But when you're a poor kid, and you're coming from
Speaker 1: an impoverished family, and you might be coming from a
Speaker 1: broken home, your parents aren't around, your mom has to
Speaker 1: work two jobs to support you and your brothers and sisters,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, someone offers you two hundred bucks
Speaker 1: to give them a massage. That's like the lottery. That's
Speaker 1: like you hit the lottery. Because two hundred dollars is
Speaker 1: life changing to somebody who's broke. And that is the
Speaker 1: amount that this sick, disgusting, twisted bastard put on these
Speaker 1: young girls, innocents, two hundred measly dollars, folks. I would
Speaker 1: recruit recruit girls who were friends. I would casually bring
Speaker 1: it up and we would drive together to his house.
Speaker 1: I would take I would take them to his room,
Speaker 1: and then I'd walk out. Sometimes I would wait by
Speaker 1: the pool. And you know, reading this, it really sickens me, right, Robson.
Speaker 1: If she was an adult when this was happening and
Speaker 1: she wasn't a victim herself, I'd want to thrown into
Speaker 1: a volcano, a live volcano, as punishment. But I have
Speaker 1: to try and temper that anger. And I have to
Speaker 1: look at all of the facts like always here on
Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein Show, and look at everything into in
Speaker 1: context and not let my anger overrun my good sense,
Speaker 1: because I did. If we did that, then we'd be
Speaker 1: you know, we'd be maniacs when it came to this case. Right.
Speaker 1: We have to keep everything into perspective, and we have
Speaker 1: to understand that Robson, while what she did was abhorrent
Speaker 1: and gross and unforgivable, we have to understand that she
Speaker 1: was a miner who has abused herself. Right, And the
Speaker 1: true anger in our ire should be directed at Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 1: Gilaine Maxwell, the core for the legacy media, and anybody
Speaker 1: within the federal government or intelligence agencies that protected these people.
Speaker 1: That's where our anger should be directed. And it should
Speaker 1: be the anger that is hotter than a thousand burning suns.
Speaker 1: When the girls would leave, Jeffrey would come out and
Speaker 1: pay me. I probably recruited twenty four. Those girls brought
Speaker 1: other girls too. They were all underage, she says. The
Speaker 1: youngest was fourteen. In Florida, the legal age of consent
Speaker 1: is eighteen, So think about that for a minute. She
Speaker 1: recruited twenty four girls, and then those girls brought other
Speaker 1: girls too. So it was definitely a made off kind
Speaker 1: of pyramid scheme he was running. We've talked about that
Speaker 1: several times here on the podcast, and it was almost
Speaker 1: a cult like with Jeffrey Epstein. He would have all
Speaker 1: of these girls. Right, Robson was responsible for twenty four
Speaker 1: girls herself. Now how many of those twenty four girls?
Speaker 1: How many girls did they recruit each? Talk about exponential
Speaker 1: growth rates, right, These are the kind of numbers that
Speaker 1: would make doctor Fauci blush. Miss Robson says she was
Speaker 1: destroyed by guilt every day for years until she realized
Speaker 1: she was also a victim. I was sixteen. He was
Speaker 1: the adult. You didn't have asked me to do those things.
Speaker 1: She's one hundred percent right about that. Sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: I get it. You know you're a little bit older.
Speaker 1: You know you're learning some things in life, but you're
Speaker 1: certainly not capable of dealing with a narcissist like Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein and avoiding the web that he weaves. We're asking
Speaker 1: a lot from this young girl. We're asking a whole
Speaker 1: lot from this young girl, folks, all right, And again,
Speaker 1: I'm not absolving her of her responsibility for what she did.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not in that business. I'm not a priest.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to absolve anybody of anything. But what
Speaker 1: I am here to do is to read in between
Speaker 1: the lines like usual, and my anger is squarely focused
Speaker 1: on Jeffrey Epstein, Gilain Maxwell, and the rest. Robson is
Speaker 1: somebody who probably I mean obviously I don't know her.
Speaker 1: I've never met her or talked to her or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but she's probably somebody who's dealing with her
Speaker 1: own issues because of this whole entire situation. And I
Speaker 1: would hope that she would reach out to the authorities,
Speaker 1: come forward, sit down with them, go under oath, and
Speaker 1: let them know everything that she knows, even if she's
Speaker 1: talked to the authorities before, like in Palm Beach. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about sitting down with the federal prosecutors going through
Speaker 1: it all again, and if she needs to be helped,
Speaker 1: if she needs to get some sort of trauma help
Speaker 1: or PTSD help. I believe that that should be provided
Speaker 1: to her. You know, she was a kid when she
Speaker 1: was abused, and you know, as human beings, I think
Speaker 1: that we have to do our best to be compassionate
Speaker 1: in situations like this. Right again, it's a very slippery slope.
Speaker 1: The Gripping four part Netflix series tells how Epstein, who
Speaker 1: killed himself in jail last summer after being arrested on
Speaker 1: child sex charges, set up a sophisticated web of recruiters,
Speaker 1: using girls to lure their friends from at least four
Speaker 1: high schools near his home. Epstein prayed on girls from
Speaker 1: difficult backgrounds. And again, I've pointed this out several times,
Speaker 1: and I just it's been a dead end for me.
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to chase any leads down that
Speaker 1: have been a concrete that have you know, been something
Speaker 1: that has been worthwhile even And that is that angle
Speaker 1: is if Jeffrey Epstein was doing this in New York
Speaker 1: and he was doing it in Palm Beach, chances are
Speaker 1: he was doing it in New Mexico as well. And
Speaker 1: New Mexico has a very big problem with Indigenous girls
Speaker 1: going missing. And Albuquerque in general has a lot of
Speaker 1: really poor areas, so I think it would be a
Speaker 1: fertile hunting ground for Jeffrey Epstein and his associates. Although
Speaker 1: I cannot find anything saying that that occurred in Santa Fe,
Speaker 1: I mean in Albuquerque as well, but my gut tells
Speaker 1: me it did. Obviously, I have no evidence to prove that.
Speaker 1: But it's the same blueprint he's used elsewhere. What would
Speaker 1: make us think that he is not going to use
Speaker 1: the same blueprint with the in the borders of New Mexico,
Speaker 1: especially how politically juiced he was there. Psychologist Catherine Stamlis
Speaker 1: described Epstein's recruitment system as a sexual pyramid scheme, saying
Speaker 1: he was a brilliant, narcisistic billionaire. I don't believe he
Speaker 1: was not brilliant. Sorry, he was narcissistic, no doubt about it,
Speaker 1: But he was not brilliant. Adolescents could not cope with that. No,
Speaker 1: the narcissism they could not cope with. And I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say brilliant because he's not brilliant. He was devious and
Speaker 1: he was manipulative, but he was not brilliant, all right,
Speaker 1: not in the least the show's director, Lisa Bryant, who
Speaker 1: spent twenty months making Filthy Rich, used a secret computer
Speaker 1: server and kept all footage under lock and key for
Speaker 1: fear of retribution from the billionaire pedophile. The program claims
Speaker 1: he kept surveillance. It's from all those homes to blackmail
Speaker 1: the rich and powerful. Well, we've known that from the beginning, folks, right,
Speaker 1: we've known that, and we know that it's a fact.
Speaker 1: We know it's not speculation at this point. But again,
Speaker 1: what the documentary is going to do is it's going
Speaker 1: to show that two people who might not have known,
Speaker 1: people who might not have searched out the content previously.
Speaker 1: And again, the more outrage that we can we can
Speaker 1: get in this case, the better because without the outrage,
Speaker 1: there's going to be no movement. And we all know
Speaker 1: that people like Berman and the attorney generals and district attorneys,
Speaker 1: it's their public image is very important to them. So
Speaker 1: as long as we keep getting the outcry to get
Speaker 1: to these levels where we see it at right now
Speaker 1: from the public who has had enough of seeing these
Speaker 1: young ladies get screwed over by not only Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: but by the government, well, the better chance we have
Speaker 1: for justice taking place in this case. Ms. Bryan said,
Speaker 1: we started working on this before Epstein was arrested. He
Speaker 1: proved time and again that power and money helped him
Speaker 1: evade justice. We knew we couldn't be too careful. She's
Speaker 1: right about that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein's that he was
Speaker 1: that kind of guy and his associates are those kind
Speaker 1: of people You do not know who you're dealing with
Speaker 1: until you're dealing with them, and for some people, that's
Speaker 1: a very scary situation. Right There are some people that
Speaker 1: will not talk about things like this because they are
Speaker 1: very scared of retribution. There are people that don't want
Speaker 1: to take the chance of having to deal with the blowback.
Speaker 1: And I get it. Not everybody's willing to be on
Speaker 1: the front line. Me personally, I don't care about blowback.
Speaker 1: I don't care about any of these people. There is
Speaker 1: not one single person that is ever associated with Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein that pumps one bit of fear into my heart.
Speaker 1: Zero fear. I don't. These people, to me are the
Speaker 1: biggest lay asses in the history of the world. These
Speaker 1: are the sort of people that need to be crushed
Speaker 1: under heel. The days of them, making others fear them.
Speaker 1: Those days are over, folks, because the year twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: that is the year the predator turns into the prey.
Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts, the woman who claims Epstein forced her to
Speaker 1: have sex with Prince Andrew three times, the first when
Speaker 1: she was just seventeen in two thousand and one, also
Speaker 1: speaks out in the documentary. Prince Andrew has denied that
Speaker 1: and claims that no wrongdoing has ever occurred. During his
Speaker 1: infamous car crash interview on BBC's Newsnight last November, he
Speaker 1: denied ever knowing Miss Roberts. Yeah, you know, the picture
Speaker 1: was faked. All that stuff just all made up. Virginia's
Speaker 1: story is just all made up, and we should believe this.
Speaker 1: We should believe the Joe Exotic of the royal family
Speaker 1: because he is a very honorable man. You know. He
Speaker 1: told us that, and he wears the honorable kit when
Speaker 1: he wants us to think he's honorable. Frickin clown. She
Speaker 1: was interviewed by Netflix two days after the Newsnight program
Speaker 1: aired and says, I'm watching it on my tablet. I
Speaker 1: wanted to throw my tablet in the pool as a victim.
Speaker 1: The one thing you ask for is some acknowledgment, some remorse.
Speaker 1: This guy, Prince Andrew, didn't have any remorse at all.
Speaker 1: And that statement right there is why I have zero
Speaker 1: remorse for any of these people. No quarter asked, no
Speaker 1: quarter given. Game on, because these people play for keeps, folks.
Speaker 1: They're not out here, they're not playing around with the survivors.
Speaker 1: They're not you know, they weren't messing around while they
Speaker 1: were out here conducting their affairs, So they must be
Speaker 1: met with the same sort of aggression. They must be
Speaker 1: met with this same sort of fire. The best defense
Speaker 1: is offense, and in this case that is certainly proven
Speaker 1: to be true. If you'd like to contact me, you
Speaker 1: could do that at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com.
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