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Speaker 1: I want to welcome Derek Condit. He is an author, entrepreneur,
Speaker 1: certified hypnotherapist, psychic medium, and the founder of Cosmic, Shunguite
Speaker 1: and Bigfoot gyms in Washington State. Derek, Welcome, How you
Speaker 1: doing doing well.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me on. I'm excited about this.
Speaker 1: I am very excited to get into this as well.
Speaker 1: We're going to learn about your work with shung guite
Speaker 1: and beehives. You've been on an incredible spiritual journey. As
Speaker 1: it relates to your work, it explores energy, consciousness and
Speaker 1: the connection between the physical and metaphysical worlds. You've also
Speaker 1: had some encounters with non human intelligences UFOs, aliens, spirits,
Speaker 1: even sasquatch. Very much looking forward to hearing about that
Speaker 1: as well. Before we get into it. This is your
Speaker 1: first time on tell the audience a little bit about
Speaker 1: yourself and let them know how they can find more.
Speaker 2: Sure, well, actually I guess I'll keep it kind of
Speaker 2: brief if I can. Sure, But actually, so, I have
Speaker 2: a background some a veteran from the US Army, and
Speaker 2: then from there I became as we talked about a
Speaker 2: little bit before the show, I was a commercial deep
Speaker 2: sea diver and then became a Washington State correctional officer
Speaker 2: and during that time, and that's here in Washington State
Speaker 2: is where I actually opened up more so into the
Speaker 2: metaphysical aspects of reality, because I didn't have a background
Speaker 2: in that at all until believe it or not. I
Speaker 2: was introduced to shun Guite, the mineral we're going to
Speaker 2: be talking about. So that was a pretty world awakening
Speaker 2: situation and we can get into that if you like.
Speaker 2: But since then, I've become a certified hypnote therapist, and
Speaker 2: tying it back to shun Guite, I'm also now the
Speaker 2: terms commonly used would be a psychic medium, and that
Speaker 2: turned on I guess you can say, after the introduction
Speaker 2: of shun guy and I had no past in that whatsoever,
Speaker 2: So that was pretty extraordinary for me to experience that.
Speaker 1: Well, I would love to hear about what led you
Speaker 1: to where you're at, the profound event that you were
Speaker 1: just mentioning. I'd love to hear a little bit more
Speaker 1: about that if possible.
Speaker 2: Sure. Oh and then you also asked me about where
Speaker 2: they can find me, and yes, cosmicshun dite dot com
Speaker 2: would be my home web page where you can branches
Speaker 2: off into everything else. But yeah, kind of tied it
Speaker 2: into how this all started again. I was a Washington
Speaker 2: State Correctional officer, wasn't and like to make fun of
Speaker 2: things sometimes, So I was gonna say, you know, I
Speaker 2: wasn't brought up by hippie parents or anything like that,
Speaker 2: just to fought it. But so I wasn't aware of
Speaker 2: the metaphysical aspects. But all of a sudden, I was
Speaker 2: just doing some online research because I'm also a gold
Speaker 2: prospector and rockhound and a lot of different things, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, over the Internet, I was just
Speaker 2: and I think it was probably Facebook or something like that,
Speaker 2: I was shown and introduced to a mineral called shundite,
Speaker 2: which is from Carelia, Russia. It kept coming up in
Speaker 2: my feet. I knew nothing about it. I couldn't even
Speaker 2: pronounce the name or the word.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, all I really know about chun guide. It's
Speaker 1: a rare black mineral rock and you can oftentimes find
Speaker 1: them in metaphysical shops near the checkout counter. But that's
Speaker 1: pretty much the extent of my knowledge as well. What
Speaker 1: would you define shun guide as.
Speaker 2: It's it's the most energetic stone or mineral on this planet,
Speaker 2: as I've learned. So it's actually a carbon based mineral
Speaker 2: found in one location, which is Carillia, Russia, and it's
Speaker 2: been known about for several hundred years and kind of
Speaker 2: the beauty behind it. And I've made a shun gait
Speaker 2: science webpage that links from cosmicshunkai dot com because I'm
Speaker 2: kind of a science geek to where I reference and
Speaker 2: actually share or reshare over one hundred and five scientific
Speaker 2: studies that have been done over the past several years
Speaker 2: using shun gui to show all of its benefits. So
Speaker 2: it's one of those rocks or minerals that has a
Speaker 2: legit background history scientific studies regarding it on it's effects,
Speaker 2: and that's everything from scientists have fed shung Guy powdered
Speaker 2: to rats and tripled their lifespan. They've done a study
Speaker 2: here in the past couple of years where if you were, like,
Speaker 2: I'm wearing a shung Guy bracelet and a shung Guy
Speaker 2: pendant where because of course there's cell phones and Wi
Speaker 2: Fi everywhere, we can't avoid that or five G frequencies
Speaker 2: things like that that affect us physiologically. They affect our
Speaker 2: heart rate variability, our ear drum temperature, our cortisol levels.
Speaker 2: And in the study I'm talking about, scientists actually used
Speaker 2: pendants and or bracelet or other ways of using a
Speaker 2: shung Guy and they showed that it not only reverses
Speaker 2: all of the harmful effects from those frequencies, but makes
Speaker 2: you stronger just by wearing shung Gui. And that's what
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about as well. Yeah, it's pretty interesting
Speaker 2: when scientists and physicists actually get involved and prove that
Speaker 2: it's a thing and it's not just on in front
Speaker 2: of it again, a magic black rock, meta physical shop thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, before we get too deep into anything else, I
Speaker 1: interrupted your story about your journey. Apologies, please continue.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's all good. Interrupt anytime you going all
Speaker 2: over the place. Yeah, but yeah, I after I found
Speaker 2: out about Shunkai again, I couldn't even pronounce the name.
Speaker 2: I ordered one rock off the internet, so one Shunkui nugget.
Speaker 2: It showed up within a couple of weeks later from Karelia,
Speaker 2: Russia I lived, and I wasn't a member. I wasn't
Speaker 2: into this stuff. So I take it out of the package,
Speaker 2: grab it so it's in my hand, and literally, I
Speaker 2: feel I'll just kind of describe it how I would
Speaker 2: have back then, an unusual pulse of energy shoot through me.
Speaker 2: It affected my bio field, my area, my energy state,
Speaker 2: and call it what you will, but it had an
Speaker 2: immediate effect that just really grabbed my attention and blew
Speaker 2: my mind. So that's when I first started working with it.
Speaker 2: And here's where I'll tie in the bees, because I
Speaker 2: realized and I'll also have to say, it had a
Speaker 2: just a significant calming effect. So it was really just
Speaker 2: calming effect. That's just caught me off guard because I
Speaker 2: didn't think the rock was going to do that. I
Speaker 2: wasn't preloaded, didn't know anything about it, so I didn't
Speaker 2: read anything or any stories, and back then, which was
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, I don't think there was much information on it.
Speaker 2: But after realizing that the effect it had on me,
Speaker 2: I thought, well, wait a minute, what about the bees,
Speaker 2: Because i'm what's called an organic or treatment free bee
Speaker 2: keeper as well. I mean, you know, I'm not a
Speaker 2: big fan of introducing chemicals into the beehives and things
Speaker 2: like that, because that stuff does transfer into the honey
Speaker 2: if you harvest honey from the beehives or the bees themselves.
Speaker 2: And this video was shared on our website and YouTube page,
Speaker 2: I believe, But I walked outside within i don't know,
Speaker 2: ten twenty minutes of receiving the shung guy in the
Speaker 2: mail and thought, and I captured all this on video,
Speaker 2: and I thought, well, let's see if the bees respond
Speaker 2: to because it just this crazy effect on me in
Speaker 2: a good way. Yeah yeah, So I walk out put
Speaker 2: this little black rock at the entrance of a beehive,
Speaker 2: and an entrance of a beehive for those who don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's loosely depending on the type of hive,
Speaker 2: but about eighteen inches long, and the bees can come
Speaker 2: and go from any spot on there, and they do.
Speaker 2: I placed a shun guite on there, and I'd say
Speaker 2: about ninety five percent of the bees instantly started coming
Speaker 2: and going from the beehive walking on that piece of
Speaker 2: shun guite. And that grabbed my attention because lots of
Speaker 2: things have fallen on the entrance, from snow to leaves
Speaker 2: to all sorts of stuff, and typically bees will remove
Speaker 2: items as long as it's not too large from the entrance.
Speaker 2: They'll team up and just kind of shove them off
Speaker 2: and you know, open their entrance again. What I found
Speaker 2: when I introduced a shun guy, and I didn't know
Speaker 2: it's about a week later when I went to check
Speaker 2: on it after a rainstorm, thinking maybe the rain and
Speaker 2: the wind had washed off the piece of shun guy.
Speaker 2: The bees at propylist so it's like a bee glue,
Speaker 2: you can think, secured the shun gay nugget to the
Speaker 2: entrance of the hive, making sure it wouldn't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: And as time progressed, I learned all of my what's
Speaker 2: called calling collapse dis or stopped on my beehives. That's
Speaker 2: a for those who don't know, but there's huge be
Speaker 2: losses around the world, not just here in the US,
Speaker 2: but around the entire planet for different reasons, be it
Speaker 2: chemicals or frequencies and things like that. Mine completely disappeared,
Speaker 2: so much so that the two hives I had introduced
Speaker 2: Shunghai two turned into eight bee hives, meaning they grew
Speaker 2: so much they superseded so such an abundance of bees
Speaker 2: that I had to make additional beehives and transfer a
Speaker 2: portion of them into that. And I can't convince bees
Speaker 2: to do anything for me, and nobody really can't, and
Speaker 2: they don't perform, so they're doing what they feel or
Speaker 2: know is right or beneficial. And that was when they
Speaker 2: started doing that, generating more queens, which led to the
Speaker 2: expansion of the bee. And then that's when I started
Speaker 2: realizing more about shunk guite, and it ties into a
Speaker 2: whole other topic. But and I usually steered away from
Speaker 2: the word psychic just because again it wasn't my thing.
Speaker 2: I wasn't into it. I didn't deny it or anything.
Speaker 2: I just wasn't something I was into. So I usually
Speaker 2: use the word intuition. But after my first encounter Shung Guite,
Speaker 2: and I was actually on the graveyard shift at the
Speaker 2: maximum security prison I worked at at the time, my
Speaker 2: intuition or psychic abilities just went crazy. And there wasn't
Speaker 2: something I was working on or trying to enhance. I
Speaker 2: wasn't listening to podcasts, I wasn't a hypnotherapist at the time,
Speaker 2: none of that. I was just working double shifts at
Speaker 2: the prison, doing my thing, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden I would pick up on I'll just say the
Speaker 2: thoughts to be blunt of the inmates that were in there,
Speaker 2: and it would come through. Again. I like the word intuition,
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, I would just know what
Speaker 2: they were going to say to me, or hear it
Speaker 2: to a degree in my head beforehand, or know that
Speaker 2: some situation was going to happen over in this part
Speaker 2: of the cell block or whatever, and it was happening.
Speaker 2: So often that it just really grabbed my attention and
Speaker 2: I thought, what the heck? And I didn't attribute it
Speaker 2: to Shun Guy right away. I wasn't thinking about that.
Speaker 2: And then I started working more with Shun Guy, and
Speaker 2: then my intuition would enhance, and then I would get
Speaker 2: what they would call psychic vision, or they call some
Speaker 2: of a seers. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't where I could actually start to I
Speaker 2: like the word perceive rather than see, but I could
Speaker 2: perceive biofields or auras or energies, all kinds of stuff,
Speaker 2: And I thought, whoa am I having the issues? Here?
Speaker 2: Is or something? I always thought it was a physical thing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it was a metaphysical thing, and Shun Guy is
Speaker 2: absolutely what started that process for me.
Speaker 1: Let's get down deeper into what would be considered some
Speaker 1: of the metaphysical properties. Why is this having an effect
Speaker 1: on you? Why is this having an effect on bees?
Speaker 1: What did your research start to point to.
Speaker 2: That's a great question because long story short, it's all
Speaker 2: about the C sixty or carbon sixty molecule. It's also
Speaker 2: known as a bucket ball or full of rain, and
Speaker 2: scientists know all about it. It's one of the most,
Speaker 2: if not the most abundant molecules in the entire universe.
Speaker 2: It's not made down here on planet Earth, but it's
Speaker 2: found all through space and it's one of the molecules
Speaker 2: that are in shunk guite. And that's what does all
Speaker 2: the magic regarding Shunkuy because Shunkuy is mostly carbon based.
Speaker 2: It's a mineral. And there's debate on how it was
Speaker 2: how it was I guess not found in Carella, Russia,
Speaker 2: but how it got located there. And the most landed
Speaker 2: upon story would be a meteorite who knows when, over
Speaker 2: a billion years ago or so there's and the shunkit
Speaker 2: deposits the size of a small city, so it's large.
Speaker 2: It's not you know, one rock that landed there. It's
Speaker 2: really huge. And they've been breaking off pieces since then.
Speaker 2: And then that molecule carbon sixty or C sixty is
Speaker 2: also the molecule they're extracting from shun git to do
Speaker 2: all these scientific studies with with animals plants, So they've
Speaker 2: taken shun gie powder put it in plants. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can go on and ou, but there's over one
Speaker 2: hundred of them. Everything from cucumber plants to you name it,
Speaker 2: and then the results from adding shun gite, and it
Speaker 2: can be a house plant even because that's what I
Speaker 2: use it for as well. They're going to grow ten
Speaker 2: times the size if they didn't have shun guite, So
Speaker 2: if they had shunkay, they're going to grow that much more.
Speaker 2: And then an interesting fact that another study that just
Speaker 2: came out recently was I can have to preempty with this.
Speaker 2: You can also use shun git in your water. And
Speaker 2: when you add shunkait to your water, so introduce that
Speaker 2: carbon sixty molecule, it becomes what's sometimes called living water
Speaker 2: or structured water. There's different terms for that type of water,
Speaker 2: but it makes it more biocompatible to your body. The
Speaker 2: water after you had shun guite and your body identifies
Speaker 2: it as water because it's if water goes through certain
Speaker 2: pipes and pumps, it gets unstructured on the molecular level
Speaker 2: and then it's not as beneficial for you or all
Speaker 2: the chemicals that are added to it. So the scientists
Speaker 2: in the study and referencing took shun gai water, and
Speaker 2: so to make shun guy water, we have something called
Speaker 2: shun gaite water beads where I take three shun three
Speaker 2: shunk guy beads or some of the ones might bracet
Speaker 2: kind of wind them together with silver. You put them
Speaker 2: in your water. And what they did was took the
Speaker 2: shun gui water made pastries and breads out of it,
Speaker 2: and they found out that the pastries and bread lasted
Speaker 2: three weeks longer than non shung guy water pastries and
Speaker 2: bread where they show any sign of mildew or fungus. Wow.
Speaker 2: Shagin has a huge effect on chlorine. And they've another
Speaker 2: study was glyphos so round up weed killer. They've shown
Speaker 2: if you take shungai powder, put it in your gardens
Speaker 2: or on your plants or some place that's been treated
Speaker 2: with that, it'll break up the glyphosate. It doesn't capture
Speaker 2: it like you might think a piece of carbon in
Speaker 2: your water filters with a bunch of little pores grabbing
Speaker 2: the particles. It breaks it into its constituents. So it's
Speaker 2: not what's known as roundup or glyphosate any longer. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: phenomenal thing.
Speaker 1: My good friend Ken Schwartz, he is a scientist. He
Speaker 1: was the founder of a company called C sixty Purple Power.
Speaker 1: They extract pure very potent C sixty. I've used it
Speaker 1: for years now. I attribute much of my radical changes
Speaker 1: in health, weight loss, the way I feel on an
Speaker 1: everyday basis energy sleep to my U of C sixty
Speaker 1: and I've been using it for a couple of years
Speaker 1: now I can attest to the incredible benefits of this
Speaker 1: magical mineral at that C.
Speaker 2: Sixty molecule that they're using, So that would be the
Speaker 2: basis of the of their product. It looks like for
Speaker 2: the for the listeners or viewers, it's a shape of
Speaker 2: a US soccer ball. So it's made of little hexagons
Speaker 2: and pentagons, which is exactly so the hexagons what bees
Speaker 2: build their honeycomb out of it. And that's not a
Speaker 2: random shape you can think, you know, there's different terms
Speaker 2: from sacred geometry to shapes of the universe, but there's
Speaker 2: a way energies move or can work, and the hexagon
Speaker 2: is a big portion of that. So it's not random
Speaker 2: that bees use that in their brood or their honeycomb.
Speaker 2: Since I've begun working with shun Gait, I've invented just
Speaker 2: a plethora of products from what's called shun git rubber,
Speaker 2: where I take the shung guite powder, blend it into
Speaker 2: a non toxic rubber that you so then and it's
Speaker 2: easier to say, adhere to your skin or something like that.
Speaker 2: So we have something called shun Guy patches where you
Speaker 2: can put the shung Guy and we have a lot
Speaker 2: of athletes that use it. The one version of it,
Speaker 2: which is a shunk Guy rubber I'm talking about. You
Speaker 2: can place it on your body and stick get there,
Speaker 2: and it will promote your own healing because our normal
Speaker 2: state of being is healed, not healen So introducing that
Speaker 2: carbon sixty molecule, be it in the form of a
Speaker 2: pendant or brace it like the scientific study showed, or
Speaker 2: shung Guy rubber helps your energy body heal and you'll
Speaker 2: it promotes healing physically. And that's not just for people. Again,
Speaker 2: I like to reference science a lot. They've used it
Speaker 2: on animals, They've get feded to chickens, they fed it
Speaker 2: to bores. I mean it goes on and on on
Speaker 2: the different studies that have been done and on people
Speaker 2: like I referenced. It restores your heart rate variability, your
Speaker 2: stress hormones called cortisol levels, just by wearing it, having
Speaker 2: it on your body, So it absolutely promotes healing.
Speaker 1: Let's get deeper into some of the spiritual metaphysical effects.
Speaker 1: When you say you work with Shung Guide, maybe give
Speaker 1: us some examples of that. Tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: more about some of the effects you've personally noticed as
Speaker 1: it relates to your psychic abilities things of that nature.
Speaker 2: Sure, and again, like I mentioned earlier, I wasn't brought
Speaker 2: up in the what I'll loosely called a metaphysical realm.
Speaker 2: I wasn't looking into psychic phenomena or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I kind of got thrust into it, and I'll order
Speaker 2: this way. I see the psychic ability. It's a think,
Speaker 2: a sense so intuition. We're all intuitive, and I've done
Speaker 2: over a thousand sessions now, rather in person or remote
Speaker 2: either way, and what I've learned from that is, again,
Speaker 2: the psychic ability or intuitive ability is not really an ability.
Speaker 2: It's a sense that we all have, and that sense
Speaker 2: can be heightened by introducing Shun Guy to your environment,
Speaker 2: so it has that Basically, I see it as removing
Speaker 2: the excess or stressful frequencies or energies from not only
Speaker 2: our biofield or aura, but from the environment, which is
Speaker 2: why I haven't shun Guy just around plants has an effect.
Speaker 2: I've built what's called a shun Guite room, and I
Speaker 2: wasn't the first to do that, but you can take
Speaker 2: shung guy powder, blend it with a paint, paint your walls,
Speaker 2: and from my military days, we would call something like
Speaker 2: that loosely a Faraday cage. Now, shun Guy's not blocking everything,
Speaker 2: but what it does do so when you paint your
Speaker 2: room with shun Guy paint, it removes or stops or
Speaker 2: dampens the excessor overage frequencies. Again five g wi fi,
Speaker 2: because we're not going to avoid that stuff. It's everywhere,
Speaker 2: and it's been shown to be harmful for living beings
Speaker 2: to one degree or another. And when I get away
Speaker 2: from it, so again, in addition, shungg at your environment
Speaker 2: in the form of paint in a shun Guy room.
Speaker 2: And I'll mention. So I'm here at my store in
Speaker 2: Mount Vernon, Washington, which is called Bigfoots Gems, and I've
Speaker 2: built a room with shun Guy paint. So then we
Speaker 2: call it a shun Guy room. And I'll kind of
Speaker 2: make fun of things again like I tend to do.
Speaker 2: The non believers, So the people come and go, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: magic black rocks, such and such. They'll walk into a
Speaker 2: shun guy room again with dissing it all in their head,
Speaker 2: just not believing Israel. You know, somebody maybe drug him
Speaker 2: in there or something. And the results I've heard over
Speaker 2: the years are just nothing short of miraculous. It's where
Speaker 2: one example would be, well, another ex veteran walked in
Speaker 2: it was his girlfriend or or fiance or something the
Speaker 2: drug and be in there that was into shun guided
Speaker 2: research that she knew it was a real thing. He
Speaker 2: didn't believe in any of it, was kind of making
Speaker 2: fun of it. I kind of said, okay, well just
Speaker 2: go walk in that room, you know, not even know
Speaker 2: if you feel anything. Let me tell you. He and
Speaker 2: hundreds of others now I've absolutely felt something or had healings.
Speaker 2: In his instance was he had a knee injury from
Speaker 2: his military days and he walked in and when he
Speaker 2: came out, his eyes were really wide, saying, Derek, my
Speaker 2: knee injury is gone. I have no pain down here whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, sh it has that effect. And after
Speaker 2: hearing countless stories like that are people's personal experiences without
Speaker 2: preloading them because I didn't tell him anything. Often in
Speaker 2: the story, they would just see a room that and
Speaker 2: I left it painted black. So I added this young
Speaker 2: guy paint or powder to a black paint. You don't
Speaker 2: have to, though, so I'm just kind of going adding
Speaker 2: on here. You can always use it as a primer
Speaker 2: and then paint another color paint over and it works fine.
Speaker 2: So everybody listening, I want them to think they have
Speaker 2: to have a black painted room. You don't. But they
Speaker 2: would walk in there and they would see the room
Speaker 2: and feel the room. And then again the countless stories
Speaker 2: of people's intuition enhancing or physical healings. I have countless
Speaker 2: doctors here locally to send their patients to us at
Speaker 2: Bigfoot's Gems just to get shung guite for various aspects. Really,
Speaker 2: it absolutely affects your I like the term biofield because
Speaker 2: that's how I learned it. It affects that and restores
Speaker 2: you to how you should be, and then your physical
Speaker 2: body will match that. So yeah, it goes on and on,
Speaker 2: but it's pretty phenomenal stuff.
Speaker 1: Have you come across people that have the opposite effect
Speaker 1: or do not feel anything, do not have any benefits
Speaker 1: from shung Guide?
Speaker 2: Okay, I have had people that on the other extreme,
Speaker 2: touch Shung guite and it wasn't that they didn't feel anything.
Speaker 2: They instantly felt something, but it wasn't instantly a positive
Speaker 2: physiological sensation because they were energetically detoxing, is what it was.
Speaker 2: So I found out that there are that percentage of
Speaker 2: people that are just again, for lack of a better
Speaker 2: way of putting it, energetically not aligned or misaligned, or
Speaker 2: had been through such horrible, you know, diseases or sicknesses
Speaker 2: or heightened environments by having you know, fifteen wifis around you,
Speaker 2: from your neighbors and whatnot to where when they first
Speaker 2: interact with Shun Guy. But they would all feel something,
Speaker 2: and sometimes they would say as negative and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: just give it a time, think bite sized pieces, maybe
Speaker 2: go back to it. But inevitably, pretty much all of
Speaker 2: them would come around and say and then come back
Speaker 2: in the store and say, I want more Shun Guy,
Speaker 2: And then how can I use my plants? How can
Speaker 2: I give it to my animals? And I'd say, well,
Speaker 2: you can take the Shun Guy rubber, put it under
Speaker 2: your dog bed. I have a pond in here that
Speaker 2: has a three hundred gallon Corey pond in the store
Speaker 2: that has no filtration whatsoever for four years. All it has.
Speaker 2: In fact, I got a piece right here is a
Speaker 2: huge piece of shun guite, two piece pieces just sitting
Speaker 2: in the bottom of it. And again, scientists figured all
Speaker 2: that out themselves as far as adding water or shun
Speaker 2: Guy to water, and it would structurally enhance the water
Speaker 2: and removes all harmful chemicals from fluorides to chlorines to glyphosate.
Speaker 2: So as far as people same thing, put it in
Speaker 2: your water, your tea, your coffee, it doesn't matter. It's instant.
Speaker 2: It's a frequency thing, so it's not like it has
Speaker 2: to sit there for a day. It's affecting everything energetically,
Speaker 2: and then you drink that water and you'll know the difference.
Speaker 2: Even in sessions to kind of expand on what you asked,
Speaker 2: I would do in person sessions and I'd have a
Speaker 2: picture of water with our shun Guy water beads in it.
Speaker 2: I don't go into a spiel about shun Guy. When
Speaker 2: I'm doing a session. It's not a shun Guys. It's
Speaker 2: usually an either hypnosis or a psychic medium session or
Speaker 2: something like that. Pouring their water and again, inevitably they'd say,
Speaker 2: this is the best water I've ever had. Wow, it's yeah,
Speaker 2: just from adding shun Guy. And that would come in
Speaker 2: just again hundreds and hundreds of times, with again no
Speaker 2: preloading of any kind. So I knew it was the thing.
Speaker 2: And then after so many times of having that interaction happened,
Speaker 2: I thought, well, heck, I'm gonna start putting it in
Speaker 2: my fish tank, in my pond doing different things like that.
Speaker 1: Has your work got the attention of any scientific communities,
Speaker 1: any academic groups. Has anyone been questioning or looking into
Speaker 1: what you've been presenting?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, what I call them? So I would be
Speaker 2: the I guess inventor of what's known as the shung
Speaker 2: Gai bee hives, where I not only add the nuggets
Speaker 2: to the entrance like I mentioned, but I would paint
Speaker 2: the exterior of the beehive with shung Gui paint and
Speaker 2: stop calling a clapse disorder. So now, and I've been
Speaker 2: doing that since twenty sixteen and gifting it for free
Speaker 2: to bee keepers this whole time. They're on. They're all
Speaker 2: around the planet. Pick your country, there are shun Guy
Speaker 2: bee hives there. And we've had physicists involved one was
Speaker 2: doctor Richard Allen Miller, oh right on, Yeah, a physicist,
Speaker 2: and we chit chat about it down to this place
Speaker 2: in the Oregon and talk about other doctors and scientists.
Speaker 2: I was recently on the Children's Health Defense Network. They
Speaker 2: found out about it and then started talking about it
Speaker 2: more when they did research about the molecule again Carbon
Speaker 2: sixty or see sixty. So there's a lot of studies
Speaker 2: happening out there. There's some happening now behind the scenes
Speaker 2: that haven't completed, so I can't really talk about those much.
Speaker 2: But they're again they're building shung guy rooms. And it's
Speaker 2: not a placebo effectcause you're not telling anybody about what's
Speaker 2: going on. It's more walk into this room, walk into
Speaker 2: that room, and let us know if you pick up
Speaker 2: on anything, Is there anything you can tell us, where
Speaker 2: did you feel anything? Vague comments like that, And it's
Speaker 2: been pretty miraculous and it's led into many other studies.
Speaker 2: Again that people can find our shung guit science page
Speaker 2: click on that. And I don't just talk about the studies.
Speaker 2: I actually reproduce these studies, give them there so you
Speaker 2: can read them yourself or the abstract and see what
Speaker 2: they're doing with it, and it's pretty miraculous.
Speaker 1: What is cosmic silver shung guite?
Speaker 2: Sure, I found out kind of early on. That's a
Speaker 2: great question too. That the metal silver is of course
Speaker 2: beneficial to us as well back in the day, and
Speaker 2: that's still now. They put silver in water, It kills bacteria, viruses,
Speaker 2: it does all kinds of things. So I realized when
Speaker 2: I had silver bracelet as well, that it I'll just again,
Speaker 2: for lack of a better way to describing it, boosted the
Speaker 2: effects shun Guy had on me. So I thought, well,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm remember I'm an also got prospector
Speaker 2: and a rock hound, you can say. So what I
Speaker 2: did was, so I have a background in that I
Speaker 2: picked up a rock tumbler, which is typically a device
Speaker 2: for those that don't know that, it's usually a metal device.
Speaker 2: The a big that you put a tumbling medium in
Speaker 2: with a bunch of rocks, and that's how you get
Speaker 2: polished rocks. By this time, it was already in my
Speaker 2: awareness of the hexagon shaped, So I actually found a
Speaker 2: hexagon shaped rock tumbler, purchased just hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 2: little tiny silver bars. They were a little one gram bars,
Speaker 2: I found online, so what I do to make and
Speaker 2: I had to differentiate cosmic silver shun Guite from shun
Speaker 2: guite because of what I do. So that's if it
Speaker 2: says cosmic shun Guy or cosmic silver shun guite, it's
Speaker 2: that I took. And that's why would tumble these beads
Speaker 2: in and my pending. I'll put it in this hexagon
Speaker 2: shaped rock tumbler with those hundreds of silver little bars
Speaker 2: and tumble it for three days. And what it does
Speaker 2: is just that just silver, and it gives a coating
Speaker 2: of silver. So the silver particles transfer onto the shun
Speaker 2: guy and that seemed to immensely boost it, and so
Speaker 2: I had to come up with a name to differentiate it,
Speaker 2: and that's when I came up with cosmic shun Guite.
Speaker 2: So some of our products are made with cosmic shun
Speaker 2: guite or regular shun guy. It just depends on the
Speaker 2: use for the person.
Speaker 1: If a person was interested in getting shun gite in bulk,
Speaker 1: how would you recommend that be done.
Speaker 2: You have to be really careful because shun GHIs gotten
Speaker 2: so popular now that you know, if you order it
Speaker 2: from China, they claim to have found another mine of it,
Speaker 2: and they have not, and there's ways to test that
Speaker 2: will actually tell you. Because one quick way to test
Speaker 2: it is you can take a piece of shung guite
Speaker 2: and use any touchscreen device like your cell phone or
Speaker 2: tablet or whatnot and put it on there and it'll
Speaker 2: actually your apps on your phone will respond. You can
Speaker 2: switch the pages, you can do stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: if it's not real shung guite, it's not going to
Speaker 2: have any effect. Another way is the little tiny flashlights.
Speaker 2: I should have grabbed one before the recording, but you
Speaker 2: can take off the little so if the little mini
Speaker 2: flashlights a lot of us have, you can take off
Speaker 2: the end where there's a button to turn it on
Speaker 2: and just touch shun guite to the battery and the
Speaker 2: flash without putting the end of the flashlight back on,
Speaker 2: and the flashlight will turn on. So that's another test
Speaker 2: that you can do to verify you have real shun
Speaker 2: guite and then rather than artificial stuff that just looks
Speaker 2: like shun guite, you'd want to get it if you're
Speaker 2: going to order it. And there's kind of some issues
Speaker 2: now because of different tariffs and whatnot, because it is
Speaker 2: in Karelia, Russia, so That's why I got kind of well,
Speaker 2: I say lucky, because back then, when I realized it
Speaker 2: was such a phenomenal energy tool, I literally ordered palettes
Speaker 2: of it. So I ordered a lifetime supply of shun
Speaker 2: Guy powder and nuggets directly from the mining Krillia. And
Speaker 2: when they heard that I had invented what we call
Speaker 2: the shunky bee hives, they contacted me. They got so
Speaker 2: excited and my next shipment, all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: got I received as a gift a bowling ball sized
Speaker 2: piece of shun guite. Wow, huge, just for their appreciation
Speaker 2: of me helping introduce it to the world. And you know,
Speaker 2: find out that it affects bees. And again, shun Guy
Speaker 2: bee hives are all across the planet now as well.
Speaker 2: So be careful if somebody does try and anybody listen,
Speaker 2: tries to order it in bulk, make sure it's a
Speaker 2: legit distributor. I'd say order a small amount first, do
Speaker 2: a couple of the tests I talked about, verify its
Speaker 2: real shun guite before you order more. Because I'm finding
Speaker 2: out there's a lot of distributors that are selling fake,
Speaker 2: fake shunkit basically.
Speaker 1: And you said, the only place that shung gaite is
Speaker 1: originated is somewhere in Russia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only located in Karelia, Russia. And the general
Speaker 2: story or belief from the scientists is that it had
Speaker 2: to be a meteorite because unless like artificially, they're making
Speaker 2: C sixty on Earth now by with lasers and different
Speaker 2: things like that. I'm in contact with a couple of
Speaker 2: NASA scientists who make it and basically they'll shoot a
Speaker 2: high energy laser at different mediums or papers, things like that,
Speaker 2: not just ran a paper, but paper and catch the soot.
Speaker 2: And in that soot that you would catch is where
Speaker 2: the carbon sixty molecule is. Or it's made in space,
Speaker 2: So it's a meteorite and it's in the I don't
Speaker 2: know what they call it a province, but I think
Speaker 2: province are a county in Carella, Russia called Shunga, hence
Speaker 2: the name shun Guite. So there is just the one location.
Speaker 2: So if anybody's ordering from anywhere else, I would I
Speaker 2: would definitely question it. It's not gonna be real shun guite,
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: You would say there is a limited supply.
Speaker 2: Ultimately, I wish I had the numbers up, but they
Speaker 2: are on our website where I even give mine of
Speaker 2: the mine, a tour of the mine, a video tour
Speaker 2: of the photos and all the information. But it's something
Speaker 2: like three hundred and fifty billion tons of it, so
Speaker 2: it's when you're talking small, and it's on the surface
Speaker 2: and below the surface. So they do mine it, but
Speaker 2: it's a large amount. It's not gonna disappear anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Before we move on from Shun Guide, is there anything
Speaker 1: any aspects of your work, any aspects of Shun Guide
Speaker 1: itself that we didn't cover that would be beneficial for
Speaker 1: the audience to learn about.
Speaker 2: I would definitely recommend it, like I had mentioned before,
Speaker 2: using it on your plants and your gardens or your animals.
Speaker 2: They have against scientists have that shun Guy powder or
Speaker 2: used it in different forms on pick your type of
Speaker 2: animal from putting it. I blend it with what it's
Speaker 2: called dietamaceous earth or de a food grade version. So
Speaker 2: we have a fifty to fifty blend there that you
Speaker 2: can put on the coat of an animal, so if
Speaker 2: it's a dog or cat or chicken, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: and you can do that. You can put a small
Speaker 2: amount in their food as well, because the dee is
Speaker 2: food grade that we use. And then just the again
Speaker 2: the enhancements on the longevity of the eggs that the
Speaker 2: chickens produce. In talking about the chicken studies and there's
Speaker 2: fish studies, I mean, I can go on and on
Speaker 2: and really bore you, but it's all positive results that
Speaker 2: shun Guy has had on the animals. But I would
Speaker 2: have it in your environment because I also have what's
Speaker 2: called shun Guite stickers. And it's not a volume thing
Speaker 2: with shun Guy, so you don't have to have a
Speaker 2: piece this large. You can have a pendance small as
Speaker 2: what I'm wearing that's you know, maybe two inches long
Speaker 2: or so. And how in your environment you would put
Speaker 2: in the sticker. While I was bringing that up, so
Speaker 2: we put a small amount of the cosmic shunk guite
Speaker 2: or cosmic silver shunky powder, the blend with silver in
Speaker 2: the middle. We kind of sandwich it in a sticker
Speaker 2: that you can take these stickers and put them on
Speaker 2: your cell phones. You can put them on your Wi
Speaker 2: Fi routers, anything that communicates with bluetoooth or Wi Fi,
Speaker 2: your game boxes, all of those different devices. The microphone
Speaker 2: you're in front of now I have one of mine
Speaker 2: that's kind of offscreen here, a piece of shung guite.
Speaker 2: Because all these devices do emit or have a harmful,
Speaker 2: non biocompatible frequency to them, and when you introduce shung
Speaker 2: guite to it, it takes that edge off. It's not
Speaker 2: as harmful, you don't get as physically damaged from it.
Speaker 2: And then having shun guit in your room, because you know,
Speaker 2: we sleep approximately a third of our lives if you
Speaker 2: get eight hour sleep, and it would be very beneficial to,
Speaker 2: for example, put the shun guite rubber pieces, So think
Speaker 2: like a mouse patch, just really thin, a non toxic rubber,
Speaker 2: but in it is the medium of shun guite. You
Speaker 2: can put that under your mattress pad and your pillow,
Speaker 2: or just a larger piece like I held up a
Speaker 2: moment ago on your nightstand or things like that, and
Speaker 2: it's gonna affect the energies in your space as well,
Speaker 2: much like the shun Guy room I talked about. So
Speaker 2: you don't just have to have shun Guy paint. You
Speaker 2: can have the shun guite nuggets or sometimes they're carved.
Speaker 2: We haven't shaped, like everything from elephants to angels, whatnot.
Speaker 2: So they can be carved as well, but you do
Speaker 2: want that in your space to affect those energies or
Speaker 2: frequencies that are non compatible for us.
Speaker 1: You mentioned putting them in your pillow case. Would you
Speaker 1: say it's beneficial for sleep as well?
Speaker 2: Oh, unbelievably beneficial. We have I don't know how many
Speaker 2: pro athletes doing that and non athletes doing it, because
Speaker 2: I also make what's called a shun guite I mask.
Speaker 2: So we actually get a mold and we form it
Speaker 2: with the shung Guy rubber in there and then put
Speaker 2: it in a mask that you can sleep with at night.
Speaker 2: And then the stories and the feedback from that are
Speaker 2: nothing sort of miraculous again on everybody, from healing from
Speaker 2: eye surgery, the cataracts issues, and you don't have to
Speaker 2: have the eyemask just on your eyes. You can put
Speaker 2: it on your arm if need be, you can, you
Speaker 2: can use in different spots. But as far as sleeping, yeah,
Speaker 2: shun guy so shun guy rubber in the shape of
Speaker 2: an eye mask that you would want to sleep with.
Speaker 2: And then that's talking about the physical healing aspects that
Speaker 2: it has, which are almost instant and everybody pretty much
Speaker 2: will feel them. But as far as the metaphysical aspects, well,
Speaker 2: one example, my dreams and I had no idea I
Speaker 2: haven't researched dreams either were turned color, and then I
Speaker 2: would wake up in them. I would have my intuitive
Speaker 2: or psychic abilities enhanced even in the non wake states.
Speaker 2: So when I was dreaming to where, all of a
Speaker 2: sudden I would wear the shun guy eye mask or
Speaker 2: where my bracelet to bet or whatnot, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden I realized in the next morning, I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, all of a sudden, it was full color,
Speaker 2: I think high def color. And I would wake up
Speaker 2: in my dreams, meaning be able to realize I was dreaming,
Speaker 2: and then kind of think take charge or start direct
Speaker 2: to them as well.
Speaker 1: Lucid dreams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what's know and without and then
Speaker 2: I go as I am now about one hundred miles
Speaker 2: an hour, so I'm a pretty fast I just kind
Speaker 2: of go quickly. So I found out that it can
Speaker 2: slow that down as well in a good way. So
Speaker 2: think for meditation practices or things like that. It can
Speaker 2: help again slow down or stop the the excess stuff
Speaker 2: around us. The energy is the static all that stuff
Speaker 2: to where you can focus more and just really enhance again.
Speaker 2: I like the word intuition because everybody, again, I've done
Speaker 2: over a thousand sessions, and because I can actually perceive
Speaker 2: or see. I get to vision on pointing over here,
Speaker 2: because that's there's a coucher where I do some sessions
Speaker 2: where I started being able to see in my prison
Speaker 2: days as a guard the biofield and I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: geez am I going blinds or something wrong with my eyes.
Speaker 2: Because I wasn't into all this. I didn't even know
Speaker 2: the word aura at the time. So all of a
Speaker 2: sudden I could see that and see a disruption in
Speaker 2: somebody's biofield or aura, and then inevitably they talked about
Speaker 2: yeah I have so let's say it was in the
Speaker 2: tummy area. I could see that disruption or the frequencies
Speaker 2: out of alignment would be the best way I could
Speaker 2: describe it then, And I didn't tell anybody anything. I
Speaker 2: an I'm thinking I was crazy or nothing. I kept quiet,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they say, yeah, my bad
Speaker 2: back is really hurting me today, or my throat issue
Speaker 2: or this, that and the other, and I started patching
Speaker 2: it together, realizing, oh, wait a minute, we're not actually
Speaker 2: physical beings. We're energy beings having a physical experience. Again,
Speaker 2: I wasn't brought up in any of this, so I
Speaker 2: had no idea and then started putting it together and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that makes sense. So I could see
Speaker 2: the disruptions. So it enhanced me immensely as far as
Speaker 2: the psychic abilities, as it's often termed to where I started,
Speaker 2: I couldn't. There goes my ear right now, ringing, And
Speaker 2: that's one of the psychic tells a lot of people
Speaker 2: think tonightas with similar symptoms. Yeah, like your left ear rings.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's going to be a thing. And often that's
Speaker 2: us picking up on other aspects of reality. As I
Speaker 2: would put it, it's not that we're all going death
Speaker 2: or anything like that. It's I mean, there's always a
Speaker 2: percentage of that, you know, from your physical body. But
Speaker 2: when I started working with Shungai, those would be kind
Speaker 2: of my I'll make fun of it again, my psychic
Speaker 2: sign language, my tells that would tell me, oh, there's
Speaker 2: more to the story of whatever I'm thinking about, or
Speaker 2: that person's telling me or something like that, and then
Speaker 2: those subtle sensations would enhance be it odd ringing I'm
Speaker 2: a time I just random ringing it being a specific
Speaker 2: here for a certain time, or I'd feel a pulse
Speaker 2: of energy go down my arm or my leg or something,
Speaker 2: and that's what would initially open me up to you know,
Speaker 2: look to the person in front of me, let's say
Speaker 2: doing a session, either remote right person. I could tell
Speaker 2: because I, let's say, for example, feel a pulse of
Speaker 2: energy in my left knee, I would instantly know that
Speaker 2: person had a left knee issue. And it just kept
Speaker 2: enhancing from that aspect.
Speaker 1: This connects with what I wanted to get into. I
Speaker 1: wanted to shift into some high strangeness. I understand you
Speaker 1: may have had experiences with either non human intelligences UFO
Speaker 1: encounters and maybe even a little sasquatch encounter. Tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about some of those profound high strangeness
Speaker 1: encounters that you've had.
Speaker 2: Sure, and that's interesting stuff because my first one that
Speaker 2: will call will loosely call UFOs and things like that
Speaker 2: was in my army days. I was actually where was
Speaker 2: I'm trying to the exact thing, but basically Mannheim, Germany,
Speaker 2: because I was stationed there for almost four years, and
Speaker 2: I was in a certain hotel alone. I was just
Speaker 2: basically just gifted a short vacation just to kind of
Speaker 2: summarize for getting certain duties done, you know well and
Speaker 2: on time. And so it was called Burchess Gardens, Germany,
Speaker 2: and I didn't know that that is also where Hitler's
Speaker 2: Eagles Nest was located. I wasn't into the history or
Speaker 2: anything like that as well. That's not random either. When
Speaker 2: I found out when I got there, and this does
Speaker 2: tie into the UFO aspect or the ets, extraterrestrials or aliens,
Speaker 2: whatever term people use. I found out when I was
Speaker 2: taken to that hotel and it was hours away from Manheim, Germany,
Speaker 2: where I was located. There were only three of us
Speaker 2: in this at least three hundred room hotel. I thought
Speaker 2: that was pretty unusual. But yeah, I'm like, okay, and
Speaker 2: we'll see what that's all about kind of thing. So
Speaker 2: during an I have to kind of preface it with saying, again,
Speaker 2: we're all intuitive already, and I'll have to say I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure the military knew something was going on, because
Speaker 2: I'll jump forward. I decades later found out my dad
Speaker 2: was an ex NSA spy. Oh, I knew my whole
Speaker 2: life was he was a marine. He said, I was
Speaker 2: a marine. I was a radio operator. And then when
Speaker 2: he hit his eighties, and I'll get into his bigfoot
Speaker 2: story too, he didn't even know what that word. He
Speaker 2: finally tells me that, you know, well, Derek, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't really just that I actually worked for the
Speaker 2: NSA and they would fly us here, fly us there,
Speaker 2: and put us in these hotel rooms with nobody else there,
Speaker 2: and they would do again, I'll keep it vague, not
Speaker 2: that he told me any deep dark secrets or anything
Speaker 2: other than what he was doing. And he said, yeah,
Speaker 2: we did all that kind of thing. Because and then
Speaker 2: that reminded me. And this was after my military days.
Speaker 2: I realized, We'll wait a minute, why was I treated?
Speaker 2: And it would take a whole nother podcast to get
Speaker 2: into everything, so I won't, but why I was treated
Speaker 2: in such a way when I entered the military just
Speaker 2: unbelievable exceptions for the defense listening. I had a first sergeant,
Speaker 2: so they'll know a lot of these terms that from
Speaker 2: the day I stepped off the plane into the basically
Speaker 2: the barracks at my company. There, the first sergeant captain
Speaker 2: literally told me to start calling him dad, which is
Speaker 2: like what I was private, E nothing and E one.
Speaker 2: So at the bottom of the totem pool crazy and
Speaker 2: everybody's looking like what's going on? And the exceptions went
Speaker 2: on from there. I was basically untouchable and had no
Speaker 2: idea about any of this. I didn't I was just
Speaker 2: scared like everybody else. I was twenty one at the time.
Speaker 2: And again all of the podcasts a lot of this,
Speaker 2: but the circumstances kept happening, and it ties us back
Speaker 2: to the Burchess Gardens hotel stay. It was three soldiers
Speaker 2: and then a full bird colonel it's called, which is
Speaker 2: not typical either. He'd show up, have us come out
Speaker 2: of our rooms and it was basically just think of vacation.
Speaker 2: We were sent there for about a week just to
Speaker 2: kind of take time off and enjoy ourselves, which was
Speaker 2: unusual too. But he would lead us on these tours
Speaker 2: of this hotel in burchess Gardens, Germany. He'd unlow he
Speaker 2: had a key to this room staircase going under the
Speaker 2: under the hotel and it opened up into an underground
Speaker 2: Nazi railroad system and there were hospital there's no people down.
Speaker 2: There was just a lot going on, and I realized time,
Speaker 2: why is he staring at me a lot? Well, some
Speaker 2: circles they call us sears or terms like that. Again,
Speaker 2: I like the word perceive, but I can. The best
Speaker 2: I can put is I can visually see frequencies off
Speaker 2: of the normal spectrum, which is why I can see
Speaker 2: auras and bio fields and entities. Believe it or not.
Speaker 2: And we haven't gotten to that, but that was the thing.
Speaker 2: So he would ask, and you know, how are you
Speaker 2: feeling down here? You know, what are you seeing in this?
Speaker 2: That and the other? So we'd go through these tours,
Speaker 2: and then at some time in that about a week
Speaker 2: that we were were there, I had my first experience
Speaker 2: with what we would call UFOs or ets, And until
Speaker 2: later I thought it was literally later the next day
Speaker 2: I thought it was a dream. So basically, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden I felt a shake and I was asleep,
Speaker 2: physically asleep. I wasn't awake or anything. I wasn't in
Speaker 2: between or anything. I felt a thought, I felt a shake,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden I woke up and
Speaker 2: in just like I don't know how many movies are
Speaker 2: out there, I found myself floating in the room towards
Speaker 2: a window, like laying down. So I was still prone,
Speaker 2: like I'd been lifted out of my bed, go right
Speaker 2: towards a window with three or four little entities and
Speaker 2: I'll call them entities for lack of the but ets around,
Speaker 2: not touching me. I was just floating toward.
Speaker 1: Did they look like the classic graze?
Speaker 2: They did? They did, Yep, absolutely, And I wasn't. I
Speaker 2: wasn't into ets. I wasn't in the US, none of
Speaker 2: that stuff. I was a tanker at the time, so
Speaker 2: I drove an m one a one tank desert store
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. So again just doing
Speaker 2: the soldier thing in my early twenties. Woke up, had
Speaker 2: that experience, really excited, not in a good way, and angry,
Speaker 2: I'll be blunt with you, angry and mad that that
Speaker 2: was happening to me, and started struggling fighting, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, that's it. No more to the
Speaker 2: story until the morning I thought. I woke up, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: that was really weird. That was such a vivid dream
Speaker 2: in my head. And then I noticed that there was
Speaker 2: a like a night standing like a heater. There's like,
Speaker 2: I forget the exact name of it, but basically a
Speaker 2: bunch of pipes and stuff is how they would heat
Speaker 2: the rooms there. And there were items on it that
Speaker 2: I remember during my struggle I had hit they were
Speaker 2: on the ground, and I knew then that wait a minute, now,
Speaker 2: if I just had this dream, this abduction dream, as
Speaker 2: it would be termed, why would ten fifteen feet away
Speaker 2: from me the objects? I remember when I was just flatling,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden be knocked all over the floor. Wow.
Speaker 2: And that was and I had to try and wrap
Speaker 2: my head around that. I still questioned it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the heck happened? You know, trying to wrap my
Speaker 2: head around all that. And then if you fast forward.
Speaker 2: So now I live in the Pacific Northwest, in Washington State,
Speaker 2: where there's just mountains and hills everywhere. I'm a big
Speaker 2: hiker guy, go out there, collect mushrooms, all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2: But I go deep in the woods on many of
Speaker 2: these occasions, sometimes alone and sometimes with family members. I
Speaker 2: would go out no more than two of us at
Speaker 2: a time. I would go out there. And one example
Speaker 2: is with my daughter when she was young, she's maybe
Speaker 2: nine years old. We were I don't know, eight or
Speaker 2: ten miles out, just collecting turkey tail mushrooms, joining ourselves,
Speaker 2: no other people, because there's a certain area you would
Speaker 2: park and the vehicle would have to be there if
Speaker 2: they were there, and down the canyon. As we're walking,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, my ears would start to ring,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, uh, and I make fun of me.
Speaker 2: I call it my spider senses. I'm something's going on.
Speaker 2: And then I would just I'll just again, for lack
Speaker 2: of a better way of saying it, feel that something's
Speaker 2: coming to a certain area. So I'm like, well, let's
Speaker 2: go over here. We'd stand on this little ledge of
Speaker 2: the basically they think cliff of the candy under it,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, this VW bug sized so
Speaker 2: small car sized orb was slowly floating through the canyon.
Speaker 2: It had no shape other than round, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: the brightest thing in the world, so it wasn't like
Speaker 2: a big old light or anything. So it was hard
Speaker 2: as all was solid or not, I couldn't really tell.
Speaker 2: It was maybe one hundred yards away. It floated through
Speaker 2: the canyon and stopped in front of us again, maybe
Speaker 2: at this point two hundred feet off of the ledge
Speaker 2: or trail we were on. All of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: feel a pulse of energy and I didn't see any
Speaker 2: ets waving at me through little portals or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but it was straight up what you would maybe call
Speaker 2: an orb or UFO, and I know that they were
Speaker 2: aware of me because of where they stopped and then
Speaker 2: the and I didn't see anything shoot out of this
Speaker 2: craft or anything or I guess you can maybe call it,
Speaker 2: but I sure felt it like pulse through me. Just
Speaker 2: I'm telling you an example of there's not really a
Speaker 2: wave explaining it, but a unique pulse of energy just
Speaker 2: kind of go through me. And then I'm like, and
Speaker 2: then that was the most exciting part. And then it
Speaker 2: slowly just went away and we're both just looking at it,
Speaker 2: going okay, what was that? And then maybe ten fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes later down the trail, we just randomly happened to
Speaker 2: be coming up to a clearing because it's just covered
Speaker 2: with And this was for those again maybe localisteners. This
Speaker 2: is on the top of a highway to up here,
Speaker 2: just outside of gold Bar, where I used to live.
Speaker 2: So if anybody wants to kind of reference where I'm
Speaker 2: exactly at Iron Goat Trail I'll just put the specific one,
Speaker 2: but miles out on that. And then we came to
Speaker 2: the clearing and then all of a sudden, two fighter jets.
Speaker 2: It was the most crazy thing in the world. I
Speaker 2: hear them because we can hear them a distance off,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I look up because
Speaker 2: I know they're closed, so I'm like, that's like really loud.
Speaker 2: They should be up a whole lot higher. They fly
Speaker 2: over us, and they would not only flew over at
Speaker 2: just tree top level, I mean just barely above missing
Speaker 2: the trees formed an X directly above us. They were
Speaker 2: both upside down and so low that I could see
Speaker 2: the pilots in the cockpit. Wow. And that was just,
Speaker 2: let me tell you, it wasn't random. It was meant
Speaker 2: to grab my attention kind of thing. And that happened
Speaker 2: probably six different times over I don't know two years.
Speaker 2: When I'd go hiking. Actually i'd be made fun of
Speaker 2: the like because I'd tell maybe my wife or you
Speaker 2: know whoever, a friend of mine, I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: and they never believed me. The stories kind of thing,
Speaker 2: my friends, I mean, because they thought, oh, let's see
Speaker 2: picking up on now, and it would happen just multiple times.
Speaker 2: If I go deep in the woods to where a
Speaker 2: helicopter would show up, usually it's the jets. But what
Speaker 2: did get captured on video at well, it was Washington
Speaker 2: State Reformatory in Monroe, Washington. I was a graveyard officer,
Speaker 2: and at this point in my career, I was the
Speaker 2: perimeter patrol. So I was in the car on the outside,
Speaker 2: driving outside the gate, making sure nobody broke in or out.
Speaker 2: And it was two three in the morning. I heard
Speaker 2: all of a sudden helicopters and I knew it was
Speaker 2: clear there were helicopters, and you're not supposed to fly
Speaker 2: over prisons for a lot of reasons. It's just a
Speaker 2: no fly zone like military installations unless you're a military
Speaker 2: or something. That just wasn't a thing. And it was
Speaker 2: my job. And this was still by now cell phone days,
Speaker 2: so I had a cell phone and the perimeter cameras
Speaker 2: all caught it. But basically I saw another orb. It
Speaker 2: was just before the helicopter showed up, just off and
Speaker 2: it wasn't big. It couldn't have been larger than maybe me,
Speaker 2: just kind of moving through and it would look like
Speaker 2: a typical glowing orb. So a UFO again, nothing too exciting.
Speaker 2: Didn't hit me with that energy or anything at this time.
Speaker 2: But within minutes I heard the helicop and I didn't
Speaker 2: know it was a thing at the time, but I
Speaker 2: heard later in different podcasts and shows about silent helicopters.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you they're real, because there were three
Speaker 2: helicopters that were flying up and down over the hills
Speaker 2: and trees, staying as low to the ground as they
Speaker 2: could direct and I've done via directly over my vehicle.
Speaker 2: And there were three of them. But what was odd?
Speaker 2: And they're in the line. The middle one had no markings.
Speaker 2: The other ones I could tell there's Blackhawk helicopters. A'm
Speaker 2: ex military guy. I knew what I was looking at,
Speaker 2: and they were just above the perimeter towers. We'd have
Speaker 2: towers that people could man during the day, but they're
Speaker 2: nobody in them at nights. So I was that guy,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the helicopter comes over and
Speaker 2: I realized, well, that's unusual. They shouldn't be flying here.
Speaker 2: I make a radio call tenant announce it, you know,
Speaker 2: unauthorized aircraft over the perimeter, blah blah blah, and then
Speaker 2: I realized, wait a minute, the second one is making
Speaker 2: no sound. There was nothing on it, no markings either.
Speaker 2: I see there was a I'm assuming a pilot because
Speaker 2: it was a full moon and the moon was behind them,
Speaker 2: so I could see through. They were really low see
Speaker 2: through the cockpit, so I saw what looked like a
Speaker 2: pilot to me ahead and figure look like a human.
Speaker 2: But that helicopter was completely silent, and that just really
Speaker 2: blew my mind. And that was and then I probably
Speaker 2: heard on the show like Coast to Coast or something
Speaker 2: like that later they start talking about I'm like, I
Speaker 2: know that's a thing. It absolutely is, because I actually
Speaker 2: recorded it. Yeah, I was basically disregarded by the The
Speaker 2: lieutenant who I called at the time inside the prison said,
Speaker 2: you know, not it in your log book and start
Speaker 2: permanent patrol again. He didn't seem to care at all,
Speaker 2: So it kind of just left it there. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was just another one of the songs. I've had a
Speaker 2: lot of them.
Speaker 1: Your experience of being floated by these little gray beings
Speaker 1: is a story that I've heard multiple times from many experiencers.
Speaker 1: This happens too often for it just to be a
Speaker 1: collective hallucination. Some kind of dreams that people are having.
Speaker 1: There's so much more to the experience, and it seems
Speaker 1: to be multi layered. Do you have any theories or
Speaker 1: thoughts about the extraterrestrial phenomenon if they are indeed physical
Speaker 1: beings from different planets or is it an inter dimensional phenomena?
Speaker 1: Is it our consciousness or the beings Aggrigre's part of us?
Speaker 1: Any theories about it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot of input on that, especially
Speaker 2: after all of my hypnosis sessions where I've done past
Speaker 2: life regressions and things. But tying it to the experience
Speaker 2: I had there, I left out the part where I
Speaker 2: actually had an implant in my wrist. I found probably
Speaker 2: a week later, just a small black object that I
Speaker 2: could feel it in the It was really hard and
Speaker 2: it was so close to the skin that I could
Speaker 2: eventually just kind of because it kept bugging me, so
Speaker 2: I didn't mess with it, and you know, you start
Speaker 2: get a week spot in your skin. I took it out.
Speaker 2: I wasn't stamped with anything and didn't have any words
Speaker 2: on it or anything, but it was not part of me,
Speaker 2: and I ended up just throwing it out or something,
Speaker 2: not giving it too much thought because back in those days,
Speaker 2: which would have been oh, geez, nineteen ninety one, ninety two,
Speaker 2: ninety three or something like that. I wasn't in all this.
Speaker 2: I wasn't. You know. It was pre internet that we
Speaker 2: know is internet now, so I didn't have a way
Speaker 2: of researching about that. Well that's really unusual. But I'll
Speaker 2: tell you the perception I got, or the feeling or
Speaker 2: the knowing was they were tied to us. So these
Speaker 2: in that time, those little gray guys were tied to
Speaker 2: the US military. Somehow there was something going on. It
Speaker 2: wasn't random. I was there. They weren't little tiny soldiers
Speaker 2: and outfits or anything like that. They were physical beings. Now,
Speaker 2: whether we created them or I don't know. There was
Speaker 2: something to that though, but they were tied to us.
Speaker 2: But since then, so years later, when I actually got
Speaker 2: introduced to Shun Guide, like I mentioned, that's when my
Speaker 2: sight or scene capabilities turned on. So I can see
Speaker 2: it again off frequency. I use it term entities because
Speaker 2: again we're all souls or spirits having a physical experience
Speaker 2: in a vehicle called a body. That's just the way
Speaker 2: I see it. Since I've been able to do this stuff,
Speaker 2: I communicate and I see these entities. Now, be it
Speaker 2: again what somebody says their dead grandpa, brother, best friend,
Speaker 2: or blah blah blah. They're not dead. We don't remember.
Speaker 2: This is just my perspective. I don't change anybody's belief
Speaker 2: system or anything. I'm not here for that. From my perspective,
Speaker 2: which has widened a lot over the years and sessions,
Speaker 2: and I get to actually see they don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: They're there, And then I've seen what we call ets
Speaker 2: manifest So the best way I could wrap my hand
Speaker 2: around it is they're on a different density, not a
Speaker 2: different dimension, because that would be a spatial thing, but
Speaker 2: a different And when I describe to clients when they ask,
Speaker 2: think of it like a radio channel. So if I
Speaker 2: turn on a radio here in my office, I can
Speaker 2: turn it this way, I'm gonna get country music, turn
Speaker 2: it the other way, I'll get blues, disco, rap, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. They're all here all the time. It's just
Speaker 2: where your focus is. So the entities or the ets
Speaker 2: or spirits, they're on a different density that some of
Speaker 2: us haven't enhanced access or perception of. And then we
Speaker 2: get to see them, and I'll tell you during sessions.
Speaker 2: I know that everybody's intuitive because everybody doesn't get to
Speaker 2: see things like I do, but they sure perceive them. So,
Speaker 2: for example, I'll do a session and it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if it's remote on zoom or in person, and I'll
Speaker 2: see the person's relative, they're dead relative behind them, and
Speaker 2: I'll already know that they want to talk to grandma,
Speaker 2: grandpa or dad or whomever's passed. I'm like, okay, well
Speaker 2: there's a male here, he's such and such and such,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they go, what was that?
Speaker 2: And so I could see the entity against the terminus,
Speaker 2: maybe put his hand on their shoulder or something, and
Speaker 2: they would feel it. They'd spin their head around and
Speaker 2: look at it, and they wouldn't see anything, but they'd
Speaker 2: sure physically feel it. So I know that these beings
Speaker 2: or entities from whichever densities they're on, can interact to
Speaker 2: one degree or another with us here. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of everything there. You know, it's not per se ghosts.
Speaker 2: I don't even like that term, but they are beings
Speaker 2: and we can interact with an et ones as well.
Speaker 1: Depending on who you speak with, what psychic, what researcher,
Speaker 1: they will tell you different possibilities as it relates to
Speaker 1: communication with deceased loved ones. I did an episode recently.
Speaker 1: The Gentleman I had on questioned the possibility of even
Speaker 1: being able to do that because he believes that most
Speaker 1: of the time what comes through isn't that person. It's
Speaker 1: either a residual energy, a trickster, something that is taking
Speaker 1: advantage of the communication situation. But he had some interesting
Speaker 1: thoughts behind it. Do you have any thoughts behind the
Speaker 1: possibility of speaking with deceased grandmother or is it something
Speaker 1: else I do?
Speaker 2: And I do it almost on a daily basis with
Speaker 2: my sessions. I know they can communicate and there's nothing
Speaker 2: special I have to do. I don't And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying meditation is better or anything like that, because it's actually
Speaker 2: probably good, but I don't even have to slow down
Speaker 2: enough to do that. I'll just say telepathy would be
Speaker 2: the best terms that I've heard. It's literally just a
Speaker 2: thought in your head and you can directly communicate with
Speaker 2: deceased loved ones. Now, adding on to what you said, Yes,
Speaker 2: I have come across other not so good beings or
Speaker 2: entities that are on other densities or channels like I
Speaker 2: like to put it around, so some of the bad guys,
Speaker 2: so there is truth to that as well, But it's
Speaker 2: really literally a thought in your head. So if I'm
Speaker 2: doing the same, I'm not. Sometimes I'll speak out loud
Speaker 2: for the departed loved one so the client can here
Speaker 2: be part of the three way conversation and they know
Speaker 2: what's actually going on and then ask me questions. But
Speaker 2: I don't have to. I can just literally have the
Speaker 2: thought in my head and then I get what would
Speaker 2: be termed the download instantly as well. So it's media communication.
Speaker 2: Language means nothing. So I've had people to speak different
Speaker 2: languages coming in and usually nowadays because everything's on your
Speaker 2: phone where you can translate, and I have no idea
Speaker 2: what the Russian would be. The last one I did,
Speaker 2: I'd have to have my phone on there and translate
Speaker 2: saying to that blah blah blah. But I would hear
Speaker 2: it back in English from their deceased or departed loved
Speaker 2: one because they literally don't go anywhere. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just that direct for I mean, I've done no research
Speaker 2: on this, so I have no pre loading. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, again, after the introduction of shun Gai, and
Speaker 2: then me being open to it because I'm just a
Speaker 2: very logical, direct person, like, well, if it's this, it's that,
Speaker 2: and if I've done it once, so that means I
Speaker 2: can do it again. And that's just the way I
Speaker 2: go at it. And then coming from that mindset or
Speaker 2: way of being, it gets stronger. And then there's also
Speaker 2: I'll tell you an emotional aspect. Often our emotions aren't
Speaker 2: thought about enough, meaning the state of your emotions at
Speaker 2: the time can't affect the channel or the entities you
Speaker 2: can tune into. I found that a thing too, So
Speaker 2: I've had clients that get all worked up and they go, well,
Speaker 2: the demons are following me, they're doing this, that and
Speaker 2: the other. And again I'm being vague for a reason.
Speaker 2: I can tune in to what their thoughts are and
Speaker 2: what channels they're focusing on. And I have seen entities
Speaker 2: they literally have tried to do me. Well, they've done
Speaker 2: physical harm to me. From a metaphysical again, I have
Speaker 2: to sometimes invent ways of saying this because I just
Speaker 2: don't know how. But from the metaphysical aspect, so after
Speaker 2: sessions I will remove I'll just say the bad guys
Speaker 2: because I can do that as well. It's gonna sound corny,
Speaker 2: but love energy is a thing, and just knowing that
Speaker 2: that's a thing with confidence makes it so much stronger.
Speaker 2: So I would disengage that I'll just again, for lack
Speaker 2: of a better term, they're not so good entities from
Speaker 2: these people. And then, and I've had it happen in
Speaker 2: front of my wife and others, to where all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I could feel one literally just grab my
Speaker 2: arm and start trying to break it all from the
Speaker 2: metaphysical realm, but in front of everybody and a camera,
Speaker 2: because I had cameras everywhere. All of a sudden my arm,
Speaker 2: I would see something starting to protrude from it. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: didn't get to the point of breaking my skin, but
Speaker 2: started coming out, pushing out of my skin while I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there, and I'm pretty much screaming in physical realm
Speaker 2: as well, because it was painful, and I had to
Speaker 2: get enough in my head to realize that, Okay, I
Speaker 2: just need to calm down, use love energy and then
Speaker 2: see it gone and just start doing my mindset with
Speaker 2: thoughts to affect it, to disengage from that channel or
Speaker 2: density that entity was on. And it works and then
Speaker 2: on the inverse, you can do it positively. Just decide
Speaker 2: that you're gonna again. I know it sounds corny to some,
Speaker 2: but I only know the term love energy. But that's
Speaker 2: a real thing. There's different ways of saying that, but
Speaker 2: just knowing it that is positive affects your channel, So
Speaker 2: that's how I would use it. Connect or disconnect in
Speaker 2: different ways.
Speaker 1: Can you immediately perceive if a being is on a
Speaker 1: higher lower energy level, meaning malevolent or benevolent?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I'm glad you use those terms. So
Speaker 2: it's not and I know you didn't mean it exactly
Speaker 2: this way, but higher or lower, it's yeah, a different channel,
Speaker 2: and I can absolutely immediately perceive that. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like having an egg put in front of you and
Speaker 2: then another egg and one is rotten. Well, you don't
Speaker 2: have to taste the egg to know that you're perceiving
Speaker 2: it through your usually sense of smell or something like
Speaker 2: that in the egg description, but in the metaphysical senses
Speaker 2: that are now heightened on me and others can do
Speaker 2: it too. I'm not the only one. Every one of
Speaker 2: us are intuitive and it can be enhanced. I am
Speaker 2: not extra special. I'm just more open to realizing it's
Speaker 2: a thing. So yes, I would pick up on whether
Speaker 2: it was again to make fun of it, a bad
Speaker 2: guy or a good guy entity trying to pick up
Speaker 2: on it, or if there's one nearby tuned into me.
Speaker 2: I'll put it that way. So I've gone to different
Speaker 2: locations that people would say or haunted with ghosts or this,
Speaker 2: that and the other, because I could see I could
Speaker 2: actually see the entities and they would look like a
Speaker 2: loosely a ghost or a spirit form that you may
Speaker 2: see in a movie so hazy. They're not HD three
Speaker 2: D in my vision, but they're absolutely there to where
Speaker 2: I can see them. I'll tell you what they're wearing.
Speaker 2: That if they're wearing necklaces, that's usually a big thing
Speaker 2: for the clients to go, well, tell me what they
Speaker 2: look like, and they don't tell me anything, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I say, well, she's shaken this necklace
Speaker 2: at me or something. Let's say if it was a
Speaker 2: grandma that wore a bunch of necklaces to get my
Speaker 2: attention to reference a certain necklace or whatever kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But I would would always be able to tell if
Speaker 2: they were good or bad. And that was painfully obvious.
Speaker 2: On the emotion senses, it would be an instant feeling,
Speaker 2: so I would know right away and then whether to
Speaker 2: kind of block them out or just kind of blast
Speaker 2: them with love energy to kind of have fun with
Speaker 2: it and then disengage from that. So yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: the whole gambit there.
Speaker 1: Last few minutes. I'd love to hear a bit about
Speaker 1: your sasquatch encounter and any thoughts or insights about the
Speaker 1: being itself.
Speaker 2: A great way of putting it too again tying it
Speaker 2: back into that. Yeah, I'd heard about bigfoot or sasquatch
Speaker 2: through the years on different shows, but wasn't my thing.
Speaker 2: I was, now you know, going on bigfoot hunts or
Speaker 2: anything like that. But my first encounter was when I
Speaker 2: was heading to I was an officer at the time,
Speaker 2: a correction officer. Again, well i'll give specifics. I lived
Speaker 2: in gold Bar, Washington, was driving down Highway too towards Monroe, Washington,
Speaker 2: so I know about thirty minute drive, just a really
Speaker 2: desolate highway, just woods everywhere, and there was maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know, a half dozen vehicles behind me on the
Speaker 2: road because it was before my graveyard shift. So we're
Speaker 2: looking at I don't know, seven eight at night or so,
Speaker 2: because we'd start a little bit earlier, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden I would look in front of me, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I said, it was, oh, maybe
Speaker 2: one hundred yards, so not real far. And we're driving
Speaker 2: fifty five sixty miles an hour, so closing in fast.
Speaker 2: I saw a figure cross from it would be the
Speaker 2: south to the north side of the highway, and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: that's not really It just happened to split second. I thought, well,
Speaker 2: that's not real smart running across a highway. And then
Speaker 2: I realized, wait a minute, this thing is I was
Speaker 2: still approaching it fifty five sixty miles an hour, so
Speaker 2: gaining distance or shortening the distance. Quickly. I realized it
Speaker 2: wasn't a person, because if it was a person, they were,
Speaker 2: you know, eight nine ten feet tall. And I could
Speaker 2: tell that again from the people who maybe know the area.
Speaker 2: There's a little tiny steeple or a little church. It
Speaker 2: can maybe fit six people in it. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like a last stop for prayers before you head up
Speaker 2: in deeper into the mountains to do your hikes. For
Speaker 2: those that do that, there was a little tiny one
Speaker 2: and so I had that as a reference. Is why
Speaker 2: I'm bringing it up, because this entity or Bigfoot was
Speaker 2: a couple of feet above that. And it's not the
Speaker 2: most exciting story, but that first encounter, it ran across
Speaker 2: the highway in like three strides, and it was across
Speaker 2: the highway and by that time and I thought, what
Speaker 2: am I just seeing something? What's going on? I looked
Speaker 2: at my rear view mirror and I was the lead car.
Speaker 2: I see cars pulling over, jumping out, so I knew
Speaker 2: everybody was seeing this. And he bade you didn't turn
Speaker 2: around and acknowledge us the Bigfoot at all. He just
Speaker 2: walked across the highway, went behind that little steeple into
Speaker 2: a field, and then just off into the mountains there.
Speaker 2: And that was my first experience. And I'm glad there
Speaker 2: were the other vehicles and witnesses because I'd probably written
Speaker 2: it off as you know, I just see. Was that
Speaker 2: really that I don't know kind of thing? But it was.
Speaker 2: And this ties back to what I mentioned earlier about
Speaker 2: my dad. He owned forty four acres in Fort Jones, California,
Speaker 2: so real wooded area. He's an old goal miner gold
Speaker 2: prospector as well, and he's in his eighties at this time,
Speaker 2: so he's retired. Nobody else on the land, and there
Speaker 2: were logging roads on this property, and he was so
Speaker 2: old that he didn't even know what a big for
Speaker 2: the Sasquatch was because he told me a story when
Speaker 2: he came up and visited me and I told him
Speaker 2: about mine. He said, well, Derek, I never told anybody.
Speaker 2: So it's just a little old man just in his
Speaker 2: late eighties going to this story. After he told me
Speaker 2: about the NSA stuff, he says, well, on my property,
Speaker 2: and he goes into story about how he was just
Speaker 2: walking alone out on his now abandoned logging roads, turned
Speaker 2: a corner and he starts to describe me. Says, Derek,
Speaker 2: I looked up and I saw this thing. He didn't
Speaker 2: say big for the Sasquatch. He didn't know those words.
Speaker 2: He had no idea about him. And he starts describing
Speaker 2: this nine foot tall bigfoot. He was saying was standing
Speaker 2: on his feet looking at him. And again he was
Speaker 2: just describing it physically because he didn't have a name
Speaker 2: for it. And I said, well, Dad, what was it doing?
Speaker 2: He says, it was just standing there picking berries. He
Speaker 2: was just eating berries. And it was maybe fifty feet
Speaker 2: so around the corner it was a bam. He was
Speaker 2: right up on it, like fifty feet, he said. And
Speaker 2: he was an ultra runner, a marathon runner. Ultra runner
Speaker 2: means he'd run races there were one hundred miles plus,
Speaker 2: so he really knows distances and things like that, so
Speaker 2: he knew and he starts to describe it. I said, well,
Speaker 2: tell me what it look like before I said anything
Speaker 2: to him about what it was. I said, describe it.
Speaker 2: And he goes, well, there's maybe nine foot tall. I
Speaker 2: could tell because that branch right there was sitting here
Speaker 2: and he's just kind of ocd that which he was
Speaker 2: describing it, just analytically teld me about it covered with fur.
Speaker 2: I said, was it down on the ground. He says, no,
Speaker 2: it was standing up just like me. I said, what
Speaker 2: did it do? And then he told me he said, well,
Speaker 2: it saw me right away my dad when he turned
Speaker 2: the corner. And they just stood there and stared at
Speaker 2: each other for almost a complete minute, just looking at
Speaker 2: each other. Nothing more exciting. And I said then what
Speaker 2: he goes, it just turned to the right, and he says,
Speaker 2: right over here and shows me just leapt over the
Speaker 2: bushes and ran off in the forest, and then he
Speaker 2: goes into some speel about well, I don't know what
Speaker 2: it was, but I guess it could live off the
Speaker 2: fish out here, you know. He just starts to analyze
Speaker 2: it that way. I'm like, I'm like, Dad, it was
Speaker 2: a bigfoot. He's and he looks at me and goes,
Speaker 2: it had big feet. I'm like, no, they're called bigfoot
Speaker 2: kind of thing or sasquad. He had no idea. It
Speaker 2: wasn't in his reality. You know, you didn't even using
Speaker 2: the internet, nothing like that. And I tell him about it,
Speaker 2: and then he just goes into the story again about well,
Speaker 2: I guess something that big could survive and you might
Speaker 2: hear a train go by. Sorry about that, but again
Speaker 2: it goes into the story telling me about it. And
Speaker 2: then that was it as well. It basically leapt over
Speaker 2: the bushes and ran off from him, and with no
Speaker 2: belief system, not knowing that was a thing whatsoever. That
Speaker 2: was pretty interesting to hear him after hearing about all
Speaker 2: his other stories as well. And then the other sightings
Speaker 2: I've had are well, they were bigfeet because where I was,
Speaker 2: there's nothing else out there. I knew there weren't people
Speaker 2: throwing things down on the trail in front of us.
Speaker 2: One time I was with my daughter again and we
Speaker 2: were up on a trail Mount Baker again for those
Speaker 2: that are here local so Highway twenty. I came up
Speaker 2: on a trail that nobody was on because there's a
Speaker 2: set parking area and you have to drive far enough
Speaker 2: you're not walking out there, so we knew nobody was
Speaker 2: up there. Went up the trail and I was already
Speaker 2: in my I woll say enhanced intuition at the time,
Speaker 2: so I was already psychic or enhanced that sense, and
Speaker 2: I was like, what is that? But I kept seeing
Speaker 2: the collar blue And then all of a sudden we
Speaker 2: walked back down the trail and it's just a little
Speaker 2: narrow trail, and on the middle of the trail there
Speaker 2: was a little tiny, would look like a little Christmas
Speaker 2: tree because we' right here in the woods, so just
Speaker 2: a baby tree, and there was a bracelet hung on
Speaker 2: it from and it was so I think a gift
Speaker 2: kind of thing because previously, and it was there when
Speaker 2: we passed, because we would have had to step over
Speaker 2: it to get it, so it wasn't there before we passed.
Speaker 2: It was there when we came back, and then I
Speaker 2: realized when I picked it up, because then I had
Speaker 2: the download that it was a gift sort of thing
Speaker 2: to get there kind of quickly, but I had for
Speaker 2: the months beforehand out at Monte Cristo. Again, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to be specific for maybe some locals that are listening
Speaker 2: an old a band in gold Town of mine, I
Speaker 2: would hike out there and gift, not seeing the Sasquatch
Speaker 2: initially or anything like that, I would put an apple there,
Speaker 2: different fruits and things in a spot, you know, not going, okay,
Speaker 2: I some raccoon gonna come grab it or something like that,
Speaker 2: you know, not worried about it if they did. But
Speaker 2: in my mind and intention, I was gifting to the Sasquatch.
Speaker 2: And on one occasion, so you talk about antiteaser beans
Speaker 2: with bigfoots, I'll tell you I know at least some
Speaker 2: of them can go what we would call invisible, because
Speaker 2: I picked up on a couple of them being out there,
Speaker 2: which is what led me, oh, this is a spot
Speaker 2: to leave the gift for him. And I was there
Speaker 2: with another person at the time, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden and there was a stone cold, non windy day,
Speaker 2: nothing trees blown or anything like that over where I
Speaker 2: was referenced him. I said, well, I know there's a
Speaker 2: couple over here. I couldn't see him visually at all.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, a couple of branches just
Speaker 2: start getting pulled down right exactly where already knew they were.
Speaker 2: At kind of thing too, and so like an acknowledgment
Speaker 2: that yes, we were here and we're gonna i'd leave
Speaker 2: little crystals as well, maybe a marble something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't leave M and m's or anything harmful, but
Speaker 2: you know, it was fruit and rocks and crystals and stuff.
Speaker 2: So that was pretty neat to have another person, a
Speaker 2: total non believer in any of this. We were just
Speaker 2: out hiking. He had no idea. I had some, you know,
Speaker 2: fruit and crystals my backpack. I was just gonna set
Speaker 2: on an old tree stump out there, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm like, well, I'm picking up on something
Speaker 2: over here, And then again the branches come. It wasn't
Speaker 2: just a little vague thing like a bird just flew
Speaker 2: off it. They were yanked down hard, and it was
Speaker 2: really right where already knew they were. But I couldn't
Speaker 2: see him. So then in essence, they were you know,
Speaker 2: off density, off our frequency or something like that.
Speaker 1: They may be a physical being that has the ability
Speaker 1: to shift into different densities.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And that's a great way of putting
Speaker 2: it is and I won't make this story long for time,
Speaker 2: but on other hikes I know they would be nearest
Speaker 2: because I would actually smell them when they were physical,
Speaker 2: and it was not a great smell, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden they would what we would call teleport
Speaker 2: to one hundred yards up there up and I would
Speaker 2: have heard it, because if there's some nine foot thing
Speaker 2: running through the woods where I'm at, you're going to
Speaker 2: hit every stick in the row, You're gonna knock down
Speaker 2: tree branch. You're not going to hide from that. But
Speaker 2: they would again, for lack of a better term, teleport
Speaker 2: one hundred of year so yards up. Wow. And also
Speaker 2: something else would fly out of the woods or left
Speaker 2: or something or other. So that's the best I could
Speaker 2: wrap my head around is yes, they can change their
Speaker 2: density to go I guess interdimensional for I don't know,
Speaker 2: in a better way of putting it, and then transfer
Speaker 2: themselves and go invisible. So I know that's a thing.
Speaker 1: This is such a fascinating topic. We're definitely gonna have
Speaker 1: to have you back go deeper into some of these
Speaker 1: experiences and insights. Derek, thank you so much. Before I
Speaker 1: let you go, remind the audience how they can find
Speaker 1: out more about you.
Speaker 2: Sure, we've got all our social media links and information
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Speaker 1: Excellent. Thank you so much again. Until next time, everyone,
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