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<v Speaker 1>It's seven oh six and a very happy Friday to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas always happy to talk to Dave Williams finding

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<v Speaker 1>my line projecting Taxpayers dot org from the Taxpayer Protection

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<v Speaker 1>a Liance. Welcome back, Dave, my friend. It is always

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<v Speaker 1>great speaking with you. Good morning, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's funny the other day I was listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the radio, listen to music and that song you'r

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<v Speaker 2>intro song, and I'm like, wait a second, is it

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<v Speaker 2>time for Brians?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that was a bit triggered when I heard it

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<v Speaker 3>on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can always count on Tool regularly here on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty five KERC Morning Show for Bumper Music. I

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<v Speaker 1>start my program like I have them. It's my eighteenth

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<v Speaker 1>year in radio and almost from the outset, I have

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<v Speaker 1>opened the program with anima by Tool. If you read

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<v Speaker 1>the lyrics, you'll know exactly why, Dave, you'll know exactly why.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, if you don't know the lyrics of

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<v Speaker 1>that song, when you get off ae n im a

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<v Speaker 1>is how you spell it. Read the lyrics you will

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<v Speaker 1>crack up and you will understand exactly what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to the tunes. It's awesome it's my favorite band tool. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>something that's not in your list. But I had to

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<v Speaker 1>interject this real quick. Hurricane Milton destroyed the Tampa Rays

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<v Speaker 1>Tropic can Of Field and if you saw the roof

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<v Speaker 1>got ripped off of that. In the reporting on that,

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<v Speaker 1>they said they're supposed to have a brand news stadium

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<v Speaker 1>built by twenty twenty eight to replace this one. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess total cost one point three billion. Now I laughed

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<v Speaker 1>at that because the total cost of the stadium upgrades

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bengals won came in only slightly less than

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<v Speaker 1>the cost to build an entire stadium in Tampa. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're a big fan of watching these stadium deals,

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<v Speaker 1>so I thought i'd interject that sort of comical objection.

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<v Speaker 2>This is, yeah, Brian, this is crazy. One point two

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<v Speaker 2>billion for upgrade upgrades. I mean, you're not even building

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<v Speaker 2>a new stadium. These are just upgrades. I mean, are

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<v Speaker 2>these going to be gold plated seats? I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>what you're going to spend. And when I say you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a Hamilton County resident.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so wow, pivoting over uh Congress shocking, No, one

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<v Speaker 1>Congress is making improper payments.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh wow, this is a story that is so underreported.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year in improper payments. And what improper payments means

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<v Speaker 2>is that the money is going to the wrong people

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<v Speaker 2>or they're getting too much money. These are payments that

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be going out. And what that means, Brian, is

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<v Speaker 2>that no one's going to miss them. If they stop

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<v Speaker 2>these improper payments, no one is going to miss them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not as if, you know, people have deserved this money,

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<v Speaker 2>because no, they're spending too much out and we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about hundreds of billions and still in COVID relief. There's

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<v Speaker 2>still a lot of money in COVID relief, money coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of the treasure, and the treasury means our pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just read an article about, you know, FEMA

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<v Speaker 1>running out of money right into the fiscal year that

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<v Speaker 1>I've already blown through half of their full annual allocation.

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<v Speaker 1>They're complaining about not having enough sufficient resources of course

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the hurricane damage. And the follow up

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<v Speaker 1>article that I just saw this morning ten billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in leftover COVID funds may be available to offer the

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<v Speaker 1>residents struggling with damage some relief. And I just it

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<v Speaker 1>just cracked me up that, oh, look, we got an

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<v Speaker 1>extra ten billion dollars laying over here for something It

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<v Speaker 1>isn't even a problem anymore. Welcome to the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>It's inability to keep track of and properly allocate money.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you saw this, but Speaker

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson late yesterday said that when Congress comes back, they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a supplemental bill for about one hundred billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to deal with Helene and Milton there hurricanes. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this is going to get more and more expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>and one hundred billion dollars as a supple mental I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and sadly, like COVID programs, another program that will

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<v Speaker 1>probably be subject to fraud, waste and abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And so back when Katrina hit the Golf coast, Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Kober and the late Senator Tom Kober and had

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<v Speaker 2>this idea. He said, listen, we're going to spend billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars in the Golf coast, right, so why don't

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<v Speaker 2>we spend a few million on the Inspector General. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>bolster the Inspector General's office. Let's hire some auditors to monitor,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the waste fraud and abuse that we know

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<v Speaker 2>is going to happen during Hurricane Katrina six million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>out of you know billions, and Congress said, no, that's

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<v Speaker 2>too much, we don't want to do that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this was, you know, back in two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>They should resurrect that idea today. And if they are

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<v Speaker 2>going to spend one hundred billion dollars, part of that

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<v Speaker 2>has to go to the Inspector General because there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be massive, massive, waste fraud and abuse. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see people gaming the system. And I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about improper payments. Wow, you know we could

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<v Speaker 2>see twenty percent of that one hundred billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>improper payments.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. If you search for it, you'll find it.

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<v Speaker 1>And why don't they allocate more resources? I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>would think that fiscal responsibility and avoiding improper payments just

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<v Speaker 1>conceptually does not have a partisan stripe. If there are

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of billions of dollars out there that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to the wrong place, if you're a lefty and you

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<v Speaker 1>think government should spend more on filling the blank some

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<v Speaker 1>every social cause you want, Well, there it is right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't you want to account for the money properly so

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<v Speaker 1>it frees up the dollars to go to your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>pet program? Or if you're a fiscal hawk like I am,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you just want to get rid of the fraud, waste,

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<v Speaker 1>and abuse for the purpose of improving our bottom line.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand it, because this is the low hanging

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<v Speaker 2>fruit of things, right. We're not asking people to sacrifice anything.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just saying get rid of these improper payments. And

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<v Speaker 2>even if you've got fifty or seventy five percent of this,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd still make a huge difference. And again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason Congress doesn't want to do this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it potentially and I hate to even ask this

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<v Speaker 1>for fear you're going to say yes, just simply an

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<v Speaker 1>insurmountable hurdle. You can hire all the biggest of the

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<v Speaker 1>big five accounting firms, whatever they happen to be these days.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's changed over the years. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>about Arthur Anderson, for example. But you could hire all

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<v Speaker 1>those accountants at a very sizeable dollar per hour charge.

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<v Speaker 1>I might point out they do charge a lot like lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>but that they just couldn't deal with the work. That

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much money flowing out of Washington, DC that

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<v Speaker 1>to monitor and make sure it's properly paid is just

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<v Speaker 1>beyond anybody's capability.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you can't give up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't just throw in the tout and say,

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<v Speaker 2>just because it's too big of.

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<v Speaker 3>A job, we're not going to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, imagine if the pioneers of this country said

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<v Speaker 2>that this is too big of a job, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to start some.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the pioneers weren't activities, weren't paid for by robbing

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<v Speaker 1>someone else to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>True, true, And so I think that you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the inspector generally look at any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of watchdog you have to have teeth to it is

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<v Speaker 2>that if you are caught defrauding the government, whether you're

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<v Speaker 2>a company a person, you no longer get taxpayer money

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<v Speaker 2>full stop. You have to pay back the money, and

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<v Speaker 2>you are no longer eligible to get any sort of

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<v Speaker 2>grant from the federal government. There has to be some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of accountability and not just a slap on the wrist.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in which case I can see them just rechanging

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<v Speaker 1>the name of their five oh one to three c

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<v Speaker 1>or NGO operation to some other name and file different

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<v Speaker 1>paperwork and just reappear as well, basically the same group

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<v Speaker 1>and in a different under a different name and reapply.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Then it becomes a whack a mole.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they just keep on popping up and you

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<v Speaker 2>try to beat them down for sure, No.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but I mean every logical solution comes with

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of parallel associated with it. And again that

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<v Speaker 1>goes to the maybe they just have decided behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes like screw it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just not worthy. We're never going to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to go a head around this.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember Brian criminals are always marter ha been the government.

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<v Speaker 2>They always have a new scam going.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes they are.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that's one of the reasons we talk

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<v Speaker 1>with Dave Hatter, who preceded you on the program with

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<v Speaker 1>tech Friday, and all the ways that these hackers are

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<v Speaker 1>so much more brilliant than apparently the people that designed

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<v Speaker 1>the software. Anyhow, we got more to talk about with Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>from improper payments to government owned internet network What what's

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so these things are popping up all over the country,

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<v Speaker 1>Right, well we'll do the whole win a why let

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<v Speaker 2>Because they don't think that the free market is adequately

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<v Speaker 2>doing this. And listen, we have wireless, we have starlink,

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<v Speaker 2>we have fiber, We have so many options for people

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<v Speaker 2>to connect to the internet. But government doesn't understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>And they've spent you know, billions, tens of billions of

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<v Speaker 2>spent trillions of dollars to connect people. And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>these projects are failing at an alarming rate across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you're a city and you build one

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<v Speaker 2>of these networks mentioned Minnesota, this is Wilmer, Minnesota, they

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<v Speaker 2>had to borrow twenty five million dollars, so that means

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<v Speaker 3>So now they had this huge bill they have to

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<v Speaker 2>They don't even have a broadband network in Well, we've

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<v Speaker 3>Brian, is that they need to stop doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, people aren't signing up, I presume, going back to

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<v Speaker 1>my original point, because we already have free enterprise providing

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's a better alternative out there. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>the government cannot compete in a free market with its product.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this system set up for? Is this for

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<v Speaker 1>like people on life's margins who can't afford a monthly

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not, because there are federal programs to help people

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<v Speaker 4>Service, right, That's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>This is, Yeah, this is to compete directly with the

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<v Speaker 3>And with.

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<v Speaker 1>Socialism. The state owns the means of production in this

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<v Speaker 1>So owning the internet service provider government own and providing

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<v Speaker 2>Socialism, and the economics of it makes no sense. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're a Comcast, you're a Verizon, you have economies of scale,

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<v Speaker 2>right because you're buying equipment economies of scale. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>and everything is more expensive and the service isn't as good.

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<v Speaker 2>And get this, they are charging the same amount for

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<v Speaker 2>the service. If you want one gigabyte, if you want cable,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, we can paired it. And they're charging

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<v Speaker 2>the same as a Comcast, as a charter, as a horizon.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no price differential.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor service. Nope, it's not a better price. It's government

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<v Speaker 1>There is no advantage whatsoever. So no kidding. These things

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<v Speaker 1>aren't working. So is this is this sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>concept that that's ongoing. Are they doing this elsewhere or

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<v Speaker 1>is this Minnesota sort of an outlier in lunacy all.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Next door Kentucky Wired was one of the pioneers in

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<v Speaker 2>wasteful spending on a government owned network, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>the middle mile project that they've been doing. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>billions of dollars that Kentucky had to finance, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know we again we have Starlink and Amazon even has

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<v Speaker 2>a satellite based internet service. So there's massive competition out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and for some reason, the government doesn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well, I shouldn't be perplexed because this is government

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<v Speaker 1>individual states like Kentucky, for example, you mentioned one of

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<v Speaker 1>the being done there, do they have a say over

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not they're going to move forward with this?

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<v Speaker 1>And what is the incentive for a state to want

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<v Speaker 1>city like you point out in this in Minneapolis, or

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<v Speaker 4>Do they have a choice?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the dangling carrot that would push any idiot

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<v Speaker 2>They absolutely have a choice. And what we're seeing is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of consultants pop up. Is a consultant, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>yes you need this streetcar taxpayer, Yeah, this new broadband system.

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<v Speaker 2>Well guess what this consultant also builds it. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>reminded of the Simpsons the mono rail, where everyone was

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<v Speaker 2>excited for the mono rail to come in, and you

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<v Speaker 2>had the consultant come in and say, yes, a monorail

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<v Speaker 2>will help the city, you know, economically. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, we've talked to a lot of topics

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, Dave, and I don't know, I'm troubled

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm struggling to find one that's any that it's

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<v Speaker 1>dumber than this. This is a perfect illustration of government

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<v Speaker 1>stupidity and government endeavoring. I presume it will over the

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<v Speaker 1>long term if they do enough of these stupid projects,

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<v Speaker 1>failing as they are, that maybe they're interested in just

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<v Speaker 1>putting out private internet providers. Are putting private internet providers

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<v Speaker 1>out of business, and whatting the government take over it?

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<v Speaker 1>Going over to my concerns over the First Amendment and

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<v Speaker 1>government's trying to control the narrative over our speech. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this not a vehicle that could potentially do that?

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely is, And this really has showed the contempt

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<v Speaker 2>that the government has for business and free enterprise. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at all the anti trust actions right now by

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<v Speaker 2>the Federal Trade Commission, by the Department of Justice. It

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<v Speaker 2>really is a distrust and really trying to break down

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<v Speaker 2>and destroy business and corporations in this country. And listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not here to defend corporations. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of head things, but they also do

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<v Speaker 2>good things. They employ people, they add to the economy

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<v Speaker 2>and for the government. And this is a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>this is political. It has nothing to do with policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the you know, Elizabeth Warrens of the world

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<v Speaker 2>hate certain businesses, so they want the Federal Trade Commission

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<v Speaker 2>to break them up, to destroy them. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>not what the government is for. And we've gotten so

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<v Speaker 2>far away from the original intent of what this country

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even funny.

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<v Speaker 4>It isn't funny.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll pause, bring day back for one more of the

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<v Speaker 1>irs and political Vendata seven twenty five. Right now, if

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<v Speaker 1>Suseette Lovescamp. Of course, mortgage is probably one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest financial transactions you'll ever get involved with. Borrowing money

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<v Speaker 1>for the purposes of acquiring a home. We all know

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a second more which never I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a reverse mortgage, never appeals to me. But Suzette knows

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<v Speaker 1>about those and can help you with that fixed second mortgage,

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<v Speaker 1>cash out options, lines of credit, down payment assistance programs

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, her customer service is absolutely superior.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't be working with a nicer, sweeter person, or

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and painlessly as possible. Thank you Suzette for helping

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this goes back boy to the twenty ten and

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<v Speaker 2>very nasty letters from Lois Learner.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously we were able to get our nonprofit status as

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<v Speaker 2>a fee for but it wasn't easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we had the word taxpayer in our name.

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<v Speaker 2>And the same thing is still happening fourteen years later,

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<v Speaker 2>is that the IRS now is looking at when a

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<v Speaker 2>company sells assets to a third party. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>boring sort of, you know, inside baseball stuff. But the

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<v Speaker 2>IRS is saying, now we are going to review even

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<v Speaker 2>though it's legal, we are going to review and potentially

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<v Speaker 2>audit every single transaction, not based upon the legality, but

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<v Speaker 2>based upon who's doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's more of.

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<v Speaker 2>A political a judgment rather than a policy judgment.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, isn't that illegal?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is why we wrote the outbed, this is

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<v Speaker 2>why we have the ears and eyes of people in

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate and the House, and they are investigating this

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<v Speaker 2>and looking into this because this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is blatantly illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, this is one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>you know Lowis learned listen, she uh that was public

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people knew about that. This is

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<v Speaker 2>something that has really flown under the radar and really

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<v Speaker 2>needs a lot more attention that they are now targeting

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<v Speaker 2>politically companies in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you do that, companies will leave.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's only so much that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take from from the IRS and from the tax food

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going to leave. So that's that's my concern

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<v Speaker 2>is that this is not only going to hurt the

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<v Speaker 2>companies themselves, but it's going to hurt us economically. If

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<v Speaker 2>these companies do relocate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as you point out, Charles Little John, IRS contractor

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<v Speaker 1>go off of the slap on the risk for illegally

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<v Speaker 1>leaking sensitive TAC documents. That's typically the outcome and anything

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<v Speaker 1>when they find somebody has engaged in illegal behavior, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>really becomes of it, which is doesn't act as much

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<v Speaker 1>of a deterrent, if you know what I mean. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a key pillar of the criminal justice system is to

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<v Speaker 1>deter people from getting involved in crime because of the penalties.

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<v Speaker 1>But the penalties are always quite.

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<v Speaker 2>Light, and we've seen the IRS targeting lower income individuals

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<v Speaker 2>to audits.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this is.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at a heat map of where the poor

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<v Speaker 2>people in this country, the Mississippi Delta region, they get

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<v Speaker 2>audited more than Westchester County, New York County. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean this is people just kind of shake their head

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<v Speaker 2>when they see this. But this is not anecdotal. These

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<v Speaker 2>are reports and this is you know, analysis that have

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<v Speaker 2>been done. Is that the Mississippi Delta region gets audited

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<v Speaker 2>more than Westchester County, New York. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>just shocking information for people to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me point out, is it not true that

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<v Speaker 1>the income disparities are rather stark between those two regions

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<v Speaker 1>of our country.

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<v Speaker 4>Days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're talking about you know, missus FI Delta about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty thousand dollars a year median income Westchester County probably

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<v Speaker 2>about seventy or eighty thousand on the low end, no way, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure you probably can't get in Westchester County

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<v Speaker 1>with an eighty thousand dollars a year salary. Any they

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<v Speaker 1>won't issue you have passed. Well, I guess is there

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<v Speaker 1>any pending litigation on this? Could you address the problem

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<v Speaker 1>on a broader spectrum rather than just some individual being

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<v Speaker 1>targeted havy to go to court, lawyer up and go

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<v Speaker 1>after the IRS for being targeted.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what happened with the Supreme Court earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this year with Chevron and the low for Bright decisions

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<v Speaker 2>really is going to put pressure on the IRS because

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<v Speaker 2>now Congress can get in there and say, okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>are misinterpreting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not your job to interpret what this means.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, you know, and we've talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>before the Supreme Court cases, this is I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is an area which really could have more definition now

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<v Speaker 2>now that we have Loper Bride and Chevron in our

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<v Speaker 2>back pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's certainly been some great progress toward creating the

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<v Speaker 1>environment legally speaking, to pair back the reach of the

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<v Speaker 1>administrative state. That's one of the blessings we have with

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<v Speaker 1>the current Supreme Court makeup. You know, the Westchester or

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<v Speaker 1>rather the West Virginia versus e PA decision, the Chevron

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<v Speaker 1>decision which you just mentioned in others. Really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to do a world of good

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<v Speaker 1>for us in terms of trying to hold our government

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for wealth.

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<v Speaker 2>They're open Congress, and it's and it's up to Congress,

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<v Speaker 2>and we need a Congress that understands what this means

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<v Speaker 2>and moves forward.

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<v Speaker 3>And Brian, let me just tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>During the two breaks, I went to look the lyrics

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<v Speaker 2>of that Tool song and yeah, absolutely right, I'm reading

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<v Speaker 2>them right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And FCC will allow me, Yeah, the FCC won't. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't allow me to play much more than just a

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<v Speaker 1>few few lines from the song. But it makes a

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<v Speaker 1>very profound point, you know, learn to whom Libertarian message

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<v Speaker 1>from Dave Whims of the Taxpayer Protection Lines and Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas this morning. Dave, Happy Friday, brother. It's always great

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<v Speaker 1>having the program. Keep up the great work, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>recommend my listeners check you out again at Protecting Taxpayers

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. Appreciate what you do each and every day, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll look forward to having you back on the program

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<v Speaker 1>real soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Run you too, Doctor fred Pack, Doctor Meghan Frew awesome dentist.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Meghan Frew back from her her maternity leave, which

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<v Speaker 1>is important thing. So I'm glad to hear she is back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad to hear that doctor Fredpeck's still doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both awesome dentists, and you are in the best

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<v Speaker 1>capable bust possible hands in terms of general dentistry and

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<v Speaker 1>cosmetic dentistry. I think there's like ninety total people in

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<v Speaker 1>the world that are accredited fellows with the American Academy

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<v Speaker 1>of Cosmetic Dentistry, and they're only three in the entire

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<v Speaker 1>state of Ohio. You think about how many dentists there

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<v Speaker 1>are out there in the world. Well, doctor Fredpeck is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those accredited fellows. That shows a lot just

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<v Speaker 1>the designation because you've got to do so many different

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<v Speaker 1>as many procedures and properly and and and successfully to

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<v Speaker 1>qualify for that. Doctor Fred Peck, he his passion is

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<v Speaker 1>cosmetic dentistry. So if you want transformative dental work, you

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<v Speaker 1>are not happy with the way your smile is. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to smile because you're afraid of showing your

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<v Speaker 1>t UNI doctors Peck and Fru, doctor Peckworking Hunter accreditation

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<v Speaker 1>with the American Academy. But again for general dentistry, my

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<v Speaker 1>whole family's general dentist practice always state of the art,

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<v Speaker 1>always a just the unbelievably friendly folks there. It's a welcoming,

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<v Speaker 1>warm environment and so if you're wigged out about going

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<v Speaker 1>to the dentisty, you're gonna feel comfortable from the get go.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also have sedation dentistry if that's your thing,

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<v Speaker 1>best practice around I assure you of that. Learn more

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<v Speaker 1>online go to Peck pec kpexsmiles dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell them.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian said, Hi, I'm friends with all those folks over

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<v Speaker 1>there over the years five one three six two, one

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six sixty six five to one three six '

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<v Speaker 1>two one seventy six sixty six fifty five KRC Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham Mirror you
