Speaker 1: It's seven oh six and a very happy Friday to everybody.
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas always happy to talk to Dave Williams finding
Speaker 1: my line projecting Taxpayers dot org from the Taxpayer Protection
Speaker 1: a Liance. Welcome back, Dave, my friend. It is always
Speaker 1: great speaking with you. Good morning, Brian.
Speaker 2: You know it's funny the other day I was listening
Speaker 2: to the radio, listen to music and that song you'r
Speaker 2: intro song, and I'm like, wait a second, is it
Speaker 2: time for Brians?
Speaker 3: Like that was a bit triggered when I heard it
Speaker 3: on the radio.
Speaker 1: Well, you can always count on Tool regularly here on
Speaker 1: the fifty five KERC Morning Show for Bumper Music. I
Speaker 1: start my program like I have them. It's my eighteenth
Speaker 1: year in radio and almost from the outset, I have
Speaker 1: opened the program with anima by Tool. If you read
Speaker 1: the lyrics, you'll know exactly why, Dave, you'll know exactly why.
Speaker 1: And in fact, if you don't know the lyrics of
Speaker 1: that song, when you get off ae n im a
Speaker 1: is how you spell it. Read the lyrics you will
Speaker 1: crack up and you will understand exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Listen to the tunes. It's awesome it's my favorite band tool. Anyway,
Speaker 1: something that's not in your list. But I had to
Speaker 1: interject this real quick. Hurricane Milton destroyed the Tampa Rays
Speaker 1: Tropic can Of Field and if you saw the roof
Speaker 1: got ripped off of that. In the reporting on that,
Speaker 1: they said they're supposed to have a brand news stadium
Speaker 1: built by twenty twenty eight to replace this one. I
Speaker 1: guess total cost one point three billion. Now I laughed
Speaker 1: at that because the total cost of the stadium upgrades
Speaker 1: that the Bengals won came in only slightly less than
Speaker 1: the cost to build an entire stadium in Tampa. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan of watching these stadium deals,
Speaker 1: so I thought i'd interject that sort of comical objection.
Speaker 2: This is, yeah, Brian, this is crazy. One point two
Speaker 2: billion for upgrade upgrades. I mean, you're not even building
Speaker 2: a new stadium. These are just upgrades. I mean, are
Speaker 2: these going to be gold plated seats? I can't imagine
Speaker 2: what you're going to spend. And when I say you,
Speaker 2: it's going to be taxpayers.
Speaker 4: I'm a Hamilton County resident.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so wow, pivoting over uh Congress shocking, No, one
Speaker 1: Congress is making improper payments.
Speaker 2: Huh wow, this is a story that is so underreported.
Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars
Speaker 2: a year in improper payments. And what improper payments means
Speaker 2: is that the money is going to the wrong people
Speaker 2: or they're getting too much money. These are payments that
Speaker 2: shouldn't be going out. And what that means, Brian, is
Speaker 2: that no one's going to miss them. If they stop
Speaker 2: these improper payments, no one is going to miss them.
Speaker 2: It's not as if, you know, people have deserved this money,
Speaker 2: because no, they're spending too much out and we're talking
Speaker 2: about hundreds of billions and still in COVID relief. There's
Speaker 2: still a lot of money in COVID relief, money coming
Speaker 2: out of the treasure, and the treasury means our pockets.
Speaker 1: Well, I just read an article about, you know, FEMA
Speaker 1: running out of money right into the fiscal year that
Speaker 1: I've already blown through half of their full annual allocation.
Speaker 1: They're complaining about not having enough sufficient resources of course
Speaker 1: to deal with the hurricane damage. And the follow up
Speaker 1: article that I just saw this morning ten billion dollars
Speaker 1: in leftover COVID funds may be available to offer the
Speaker 1: residents struggling with damage some relief. And I just it
Speaker 1: just cracked me up that, oh, look, we got an
Speaker 1: extra ten billion dollars laying over here for something It
Speaker 1: isn't even a problem anymore. Welcome to the federal government.
Speaker 1: It's inability to keep track of and properly allocate money.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you saw this, but Speaker
Speaker 2: Johnson late yesterday said that when Congress comes back, they're
Speaker 2: looking at a supplemental bill for about one hundred billion
Speaker 2: dollars to deal with Helene and Milton there hurricanes. So
Speaker 2: I mean this is going to get more and more expensive,
Speaker 2: and one hundred billion dollars as a supple mental I mean,
Speaker 2: this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Well and sadly, like COVID programs, another program that will
Speaker 1: probably be subject to fraud, waste and abuse.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: And so back when Katrina hit the Golf coast, Senator
Speaker 2: Tom Kober and the late Senator Tom Kober and had
Speaker 2: this idea. He said, listen, we're going to spend billions
Speaker 2: of dollars in the Golf coast, right, so why don't
Speaker 2: we spend a few million on the Inspector General. Let's
Speaker 2: bolster the Inspector General's office. Let's hire some auditors to monitor,
Speaker 2: you know, the waste fraud and abuse that we know
Speaker 2: is going to happen during Hurricane Katrina six million dollars
Speaker 2: out of you know billions, and Congress said, no, that's
Speaker 2: too much, we don't want to do that. I mean,
Speaker 2: this was, you know, back in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: They should resurrect that idea today. And if they are
Speaker 2: going to spend one hundred billion dollars, part of that
Speaker 2: has to go to the Inspector General because there's going
Speaker 2: to be massive, massive, waste fraud and abuse. You're going
Speaker 2: to see people gaming the system. And I can't imagine
Speaker 2: you talk about improper payments. Wow, you know we could
Speaker 2: see twenty percent of that one hundred billion dollars in
Speaker 2: improper payments.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. If you search for it, you'll find it.
Speaker 1: And why don't they allocate more resources? I mean, you
Speaker 1: would think that fiscal responsibility and avoiding improper payments just
Speaker 1: conceptually does not have a partisan stripe. If there are
Speaker 1: hundreds of billions of dollars out there that are going
Speaker 1: to the wrong place, if you're a lefty and you
Speaker 1: think government should spend more on filling the blank some
Speaker 1: every social cause you want, Well, there it is right there.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want to account for the money properly so
Speaker 1: it frees up the dollars to go to your favorite
Speaker 1: pet program? Or if you're a fiscal hawk like I am,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you just want to get rid of the fraud, waste,
Speaker 1: and abuse for the purpose of improving our bottom line.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't understand it, because this is the low hanging
Speaker 2: fruit of things, right. We're not asking people to sacrifice anything.
Speaker 2: We're just saying get rid of these improper payments. And
Speaker 2: even if you've got fifty or seventy five percent of this,
Speaker 2: you'd still make a huge difference. And again, you know,
Speaker 2: for some reason Congress doesn't want to do this, and
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Is it potentially and I hate to even ask this
Speaker 1: for fear you're going to say yes, just simply an
Speaker 1: insurmountable hurdle. You can hire all the biggest of the
Speaker 1: big five accounting firms, whatever they happen to be these days.
Speaker 1: I know that's changed over the years. I still think
Speaker 1: about Arthur Anderson, for example. But you could hire all
Speaker 1: those accountants at a very sizeable dollar per hour charge.
Speaker 1: I might point out they do charge a lot like lawyers,
Speaker 1: but that they just couldn't deal with the work. That
Speaker 1: there's so much money flowing out of Washington, DC that
Speaker 1: to monitor and make sure it's properly paid is just
Speaker 1: beyond anybody's capability.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't give up.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't just throw in the tout and say,
Speaker 2: just because it's too big of.
Speaker 3: A job, we're not going to do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if the pioneers of this country said
Speaker 2: that this is too big of a job, so we're
Speaker 2: not going to do it.
Speaker 3: It has to start some.
Speaker 1: Well, the pioneers weren't activities, weren't paid for by robbing
Speaker 1: someone else to do it.
Speaker 2: True, true, And so I think that you know, when
Speaker 2: you look at the inspector generally look at any sort
Speaker 2: of watchdog you have to have teeth to it is
Speaker 2: that if you are caught defrauding the government, whether you're
Speaker 2: a company a person, you no longer get taxpayer money
Speaker 2: full stop. You have to pay back the money, and
Speaker 2: you are no longer eligible to get any sort of
Speaker 2: grant from the federal government. There has to be some
Speaker 2: sort of accountability and not just a slap on the wrist.
Speaker 1: Well, in which case I can see them just rechanging
Speaker 1: the name of their five oh one to three c
Speaker 1: or NGO operation to some other name and file different
Speaker 1: paperwork and just reappear as well, basically the same group
Speaker 1: and in a different under a different name and reapply.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Then it becomes a whack a mole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just keep on popping up and you
Speaker 2: try to beat them down for sure, No.
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean every logical solution comes with
Speaker 1: some sort of parallel associated with it. And again that
Speaker 1: goes to the maybe they just have decided behind the
Speaker 1: scenes like screw it.
Speaker 4: It's just not worthy. We're never going to be able
Speaker 4: to go a head around this.
Speaker 2: And remember Brian criminals are always marter ha been the government.
Speaker 2: They always have a new scam going.
Speaker 4: Yes they are.
Speaker 1: And of course that's one of the reasons we talk
Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter, who preceded you on the program with
Speaker 1: tech Friday, and all the ways that these hackers are
Speaker 1: so much more brilliant than apparently the people that designed
Speaker 1: the software. Anyhow, we got more to talk about with Dave.
Speaker 1: One is Protecting Taxpayers. Dot organ is where you find
Speaker 1: the Taxpayer Protection Alliance online coming up with DAVE, government
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Speaker 1: Williams from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. All Right, moving away
Speaker 1: from improper payments to government owned internet network What what's
Speaker 1: going on with this?
Speaker 2: Well, so these things are popping up all over the country,
Speaker 2: is that state and local governments are using taxpayer money
Speaker 2: to build internet systems, broadband networks, and they're believed or
Speaker 2: not sailing failing as absolutely alarm Yeah, shocking, right that
Speaker 2: the governments all.
Speaker 1: Right, well we'll do the whole win a why let
Speaker 1: us start with the why would they get involved in
Speaker 1: this effort when the free market seems to be adequately
Speaker 1: serving our ability to get online?
Speaker 2: Because they don't think that the free market is adequately
Speaker 2: doing this. And listen, we have wireless, we have starlink,
Speaker 2: we have fiber, We have so many options for people
Speaker 2: to connect to the internet. But government doesn't understand that.
Speaker 2: And they've spent you know, billions, tens of billions of
Speaker 2: dollars to connect people when the private sector has actually
Speaker 2: spent trillions of dollars to connect people. And that's why
Speaker 2: these projects are failing at an alarming rate across the country.
Speaker 2: And so if you're a city and you build one
Speaker 2: of these networks mentioned Minnesota, this is Wilmer, Minnesota, they
Speaker 2: had to borrow twenty five million dollars, so that means
Speaker 2: they have to pay the twenty five million dollars back
Speaker 2: with interest. And after five or ten years, people aren't
Speaker 2: subscribing to these networks, so they fail.
Speaker 3: So now they had this huge bill they have to
Speaker 3: pay and.
Speaker 2: They don't even have a broadband network in Well, we've
Speaker 2: been talking about this for years.
Speaker 3: Brian, is that they need to stop doing this.
Speaker 1: Okay, people aren't signing up, I presume, going back to
Speaker 1: my original point, because we already have free enterprise providing
Speaker 1: these services to the public, which are obviously keeping Verizon
Speaker 1: and other carries like that making it in the in
Speaker 1: business not only but also making fat profit. People are
Speaker 1: not signing up for the government internet services because well,
Speaker 1: maybe there's a better alternative out there. In other words,
Speaker 1: the government cannot compete in a free market with its product.
Speaker 1: Who is this system set up for? Is this for
Speaker 1: like people on life's margins who can't afford a monthly
Speaker 1: internet build from a regular normal so to say, Verizon
Speaker 1: type carrier.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, because there are federal programs to help people
Speaker 2: pay for internet.
Speaker 4: Service, right, That's what I thought.
Speaker 2: This is, Yeah, this is to compete directly with the
Speaker 2: private sector.
Speaker 3: And with.
Speaker 1: Socialism. The state owns the means of production in this
Speaker 1: particular case, and controls the means of production, I might add,
Speaker 1: So owning the internet service provider government own and providing
Speaker 1: that is absolute.
Speaker 2: Socialism, and the economics of it makes no sense. If
Speaker 2: you're a Comcast, you're a Verizon, you have economies of scale,
Speaker 2: right because you're buying equipment economies of scale. If you're
Speaker 2: a city, you are not. I mean, when you're building
Speaker 2: this network, you don't get the same economies of scale,
Speaker 2: and everything is more expensive and the service isn't as good.
Speaker 2: And get this, they are charging the same amount for
Speaker 2: the service. If you want one gigabyte, if you want cable,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, we can paired it. And they're charging
Speaker 2: the same as a Comcast, as a charter, as a horizon.
Speaker 2: So there's no price differential.
Speaker 1: Poor service. Nope, it's not a better price. It's government
Speaker 1: run and own. Therefore services worse literally across the board.
Speaker 1: There is no advantage whatsoever. So no kidding. These things
Speaker 1: aren't working. So is this is this sort of a
Speaker 1: concept that that's ongoing. Are they doing this elsewhere or
Speaker 1: is this Minnesota sort of an outlier in lunacy all.
Speaker 3: Over the country.
Speaker 2: Next door Kentucky Wired was one of the pioneers in
Speaker 2: wasteful spending on a government owned network, and this was
Speaker 2: the middle mile project that they've been doing. You know,
Speaker 2: billions of dollars that Kentucky had to finance, and you
Speaker 2: know we again we have Starlink and Amazon even has
Speaker 2: a satellite based internet service. So there's massive competition out there,
Speaker 2: and for some reason, the government doesn't see it.
Speaker 1: I'm well, I shouldn't be perplexed because this is government
Speaker 1: we're talking about. But I guess I wonder do the
Speaker 1: individual states like Kentucky, for example, you mentioned one of
Speaker 1: the being done there, do they have a say over
Speaker 1: whether or not they're going to move forward with this?
Speaker 1: And what is the incentive for a state to want
Speaker 1: to take on its own financial obligations, or even a
Speaker 1: city like you point out in this in Minneapolis, or
Speaker 1: a city to go twenty five million dollars in the
Speaker 1: hole to fund something that isn't going to benefit them
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 4: Do they have a choice?
Speaker 1: What is the dangling carrot that would push any idiot
Speaker 1: politician or decision maker into this situation?
Speaker 2: They absolutely have a choice. And what we're seeing is
Speaker 2: a lot of consultants pop up. Is a consultant, we'll
Speaker 2: go into a city and do a study and say, oh,
Speaker 2: yes you need this streetcar taxpayer, Yeah, this new broadband system.
Speaker 2: Well guess what this consultant also builds it. And I'm
Speaker 2: reminded of the Simpsons the mono rail, where everyone was
Speaker 2: excited for the mono rail to come in, and you
Speaker 2: had the consultant come in and say, yes, a monorail
Speaker 2: will help the city, you know, economically. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: what these things are. These are the Springfield monorails of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we've talked to a lot of topics
Speaker 1: over the years, Dave, and I don't know, I'm troubled
Speaker 1: or I'm struggling to find one that's any that it's
Speaker 1: dumber than this. This is a perfect illustration of government
Speaker 1: stupidity and government endeavoring. I presume it will over the
Speaker 1: long term if they do enough of these stupid projects,
Speaker 1: failing as they are, that maybe they're interested in just
Speaker 1: putting out private internet providers. Are putting private internet providers
Speaker 1: out of business, and whatting the government take over it?
Speaker 1: Going over to my concerns over the First Amendment and
Speaker 1: government's trying to control the narrative over our speech. Is
Speaker 1: this not a vehicle that could potentially do that?
Speaker 2: It absolutely is, And this really has showed the contempt
Speaker 2: that the government has for business and free enterprise. You
Speaker 2: look at all the anti trust actions right now by
Speaker 2: the Federal Trade Commission, by the Department of Justice. It
Speaker 2: really is a distrust and really trying to break down
Speaker 2: and destroy business and corporations in this country. And listen,
Speaker 2: I am not here to defend corporations. I think they
Speaker 2: do a lot of head things, but they also do
Speaker 2: good things. They employ people, they add to the economy
Speaker 2: and for the government. And this is a lot of
Speaker 2: this is political. It has nothing to do with policy.
Speaker 2: Is that the you know, Elizabeth Warrens of the world
Speaker 2: hate certain businesses, so they want the Federal Trade Commission
Speaker 2: to break them up, to destroy them. And this is
Speaker 2: not what the government is for. And we've gotten so
Speaker 2: far away from the original intent of what this country
Speaker 2: was supposed to be about.
Speaker 3: It's not even funny.
Speaker 4: It isn't funny.
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Speaker 1: Alliance again online Protecting Taxpayers dot org. We end on
Speaker 1: the IRS and political vendit is it going back to
Speaker 1: lowesst Learner on this one, Dave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this goes back boy to the twenty ten and
Speaker 2: we remember the political targeting of Lowist Earner, and the
Speaker 2: Taxpayer's Protection Alliance was actually part of that because you know,
Speaker 2: we were formed in twenty eleven and we got some
Speaker 2: very nasty letters from Lois Learner.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Obviously we were able to get our nonprofit status as
Speaker 2: a fee for but it wasn't easy.
Speaker 3: Because we had the word taxpayer in our name.
Speaker 2: And the same thing is still happening fourteen years later,
Speaker 2: is that the IRS now is looking at when a
Speaker 2: company sells assets to a third party. So I'm really
Speaker 2: boring sort of, you know, inside baseball stuff. But the
Speaker 2: IRS is saying, now we are going to review even
Speaker 2: though it's legal, we are going to review and potentially
Speaker 2: audit every single transaction, not based upon the legality, but
Speaker 2: based upon who's doing it.
Speaker 3: And it's more of.
Speaker 2: A political a judgment rather than a policy judgment.
Speaker 4: Well, isn't that illegal?
Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And this is why we wrote the outbed, this is
Speaker 2: why we have the ears and eyes of people in
Speaker 2: the Senate and the House, and they are investigating this
Speaker 2: and looking into this because this.
Speaker 3: Is blatantly illegal.
Speaker 2: And you know, this is one of those things where
Speaker 2: you know Lowis learned listen, she uh that was public
Speaker 2: and a lot of people knew about that. This is
Speaker 2: something that has really flown under the radar and really
Speaker 2: needs a lot more attention that they are now targeting
Speaker 2: politically companies in this country.
Speaker 3: And when you do that, companies will leave.
Speaker 2: You know, there's only so much that they're going to
Speaker 2: take from from the IRS and from the tax food
Speaker 2: and they're going to leave. So that's that's my concern
Speaker 2: is that this is not only going to hurt the
Speaker 2: companies themselves, but it's going to hurt us economically. If
Speaker 2: these companies do relocate.
Speaker 1: Well, as you point out, Charles Little John, IRS contractor
Speaker 1: go off of the slap on the risk for illegally
Speaker 1: leaking sensitive TAC documents. That's typically the outcome and anything
Speaker 1: when they find somebody has engaged in illegal behavior, nothing
Speaker 1: really becomes of it, which is doesn't act as much
Speaker 1: of a deterrent, if you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: a key pillar of the criminal justice system is to
Speaker 1: deter people from getting involved in crime because of the penalties.
Speaker 1: But the penalties are always quite.
Speaker 2: Light, and we've seen the IRS targeting lower income individuals
Speaker 2: to audits.
Speaker 3: I mean this is.
Speaker 2: You look at a heat map of where the poor
Speaker 2: people in this country, the Mississippi Delta region, they get
Speaker 2: audited more than Westchester County, New York County. Yes, I
Speaker 2: mean this is people just kind of shake their head
Speaker 2: when they see this. But this is not anecdotal. These
Speaker 2: are reports and this is you know, analysis that have
Speaker 2: been done. Is that the Mississippi Delta region gets audited
Speaker 2: more than Westchester County, New York. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: just shocking information for people to hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me point out, is it not true that
Speaker 1: the income disparities are rather stark between those two regions
Speaker 1: of our country.
Speaker 4: Days.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're talking about you know, missus FI Delta about
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars a year median income Westchester County probably
Speaker 2: about seventy or eighty thousand on the low end, no way, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you probably can't get in Westchester County
Speaker 1: with an eighty thousand dollars a year salary. Any they
Speaker 1: won't issue you have passed. Well, I guess is there
Speaker 1: any pending litigation on this? Could you address the problem
Speaker 1: on a broader spectrum rather than just some individual being
Speaker 1: targeted havy to go to court, lawyer up and go
Speaker 1: after the IRS for being targeted.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what happened with the Supreme Court earlier
Speaker 2: this year with Chevron and the low for Bright decisions
Speaker 2: really is going to put pressure on the IRS because
Speaker 2: now Congress can get in there and say, okay, you
Speaker 2: are misinterpreting.
Speaker 3: It's not your job to interpret what this means.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, and we've talked about this
Speaker 2: before the Supreme Court cases, this is I think this
Speaker 2: is an area which really could have more definition now
Speaker 2: now that we have Loper Bride and Chevron in our
Speaker 2: back pockets.
Speaker 1: Well, there's certainly been some great progress toward creating the
Speaker 1: environment legally speaking, to pair back the reach of the
Speaker 1: administrative state. That's one of the blessings we have with
Speaker 1: the current Supreme Court makeup. You know, the Westchester or
Speaker 1: rather the West Virginia versus e PA decision, the Chevron
Speaker 1: decision which you just mentioned in others. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's going to do a world of good
Speaker 1: for us in terms of trying to hold our government
Speaker 1: accountable for wealth.
Speaker 2: They're open Congress, and it's and it's up to Congress,
Speaker 2: and we need a Congress that understands what this means
Speaker 2: and moves forward.
Speaker 3: And Brian, let me just tell you.
Speaker 2: During the two breaks, I went to look the lyrics
Speaker 2: of that Tool song and yeah, absolutely right, I'm reading
Speaker 2: them right now.
Speaker 1: And FCC will allow me, Yeah, the FCC won't. I
Speaker 1: won't allow me to play much more than just a
Speaker 1: few few lines from the song. But it makes a
Speaker 1: very profound point, you know, learn to whom Libertarian message
Speaker 1: from Dave Whims of the Taxpayer Protection Lines and Brian
Speaker 1: Thomas this morning. Dave, Happy Friday, brother. It's always great
Speaker 1: having the program. Keep up the great work, and I'll
Speaker 1: recommend my listeners check you out again at Protecting Taxpayers
Speaker 1: dot org. Appreciate what you do each and every day, Dave.
Speaker 1: I'll look forward to having you back on the program
Speaker 1: real soon.
Speaker 3: Have a great weekend.
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