WEBVTT 1 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:23.679 About time we had another special edition. Hey, this is 2 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:28.320 your host, Cliff Dunning of Earth Ancients, and this week 3 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.559 we are focusing on the planet Mars. As you know, 4 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:35.000 if you've been following the podcast for a while now, 5 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.320 you know that I'm an advocate of archaeological ruins on 6 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.399 the planet Mars, which means at some point in the 7 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:46.759 past the planet had a population, had a civilization. And 8 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:50.679 we're not, you know, guessing, we're not suggesting this is, 9 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.479 you know, the way it is. We've had real science. 10 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:59.159 We've had planetary scientists here, We've had image specialists, and 11 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:05.799 we've had research investigators, some who have spent portions of 12 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:11.959 their entire lives studying the planet Mars and making determinations 13 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:16.079 that not only are there archaeological ruins, there could be 14 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:20.719 a partial atmosphere that supports life. Now, when we say 15 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:24.400 things like this, when we present this material, it runs 16 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:28.079 in the face of what's being presented now by NASA, 17 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:32.560 which is looking for microbes, spending billions of dollars with 18 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.560 these rovers, and rovers have cameras on them, they have 19 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:40.159 other scientific equipment for testing, and NASA would like us 20 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:43.200 to believe that there's nothing on Mars other than the 21 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:49.200 remains of a very rudimentary microbe life, single cell organisms 22 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.400 that lived on the surface or in what was water 23 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:58.480 at one time. And you know, that's fine for that scenario, 24 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.239 But the truth of the man is they've known that 25 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:06.319 there are ruins on Mars. When they launched the Viking 26 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:11.360 satellite program, they imaged a variety of areas, and they 27 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:14.599 continue to image areas that show that there are not 28 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:19.560 only temples, pyramids and unusual large reliefs. And when I 29 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:24.759 say unusual, some of these release are miles across by 30 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:28.319 miles long, and it also looks like that they were 31 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:32.039 built for to be observed from outside of the atmosphere 32 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.159 of the planet. But there's a lot that we have 33 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.520 discovered since we began reporting on Mars. We've had doctor 34 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.919 John Brandenberg on there, who wrote a book called Death 35 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.159 on Mars, who believes that there were a number of 36 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.919 nuclear wars on the planet, one that may have destroyed 37 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:53.000 the atmosphere and eventually killed off the remaining life. And 38 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:58.240 today we are presenting another look at the planet with 39 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:03.439 an image specialist has done extensive imagery of Sidonia where 40 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:08.639 this face is, but has also reported back that the 41 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:13.800 evidence that we have discovered is being manipulated by NASA. 42 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:17.400 And what that means is, as they continue to image 43 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:23.560 the planet Mars, they are altering the feed so that 44 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.879 when the public looks at this imagery, what they're getting 45 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:36.039 is modifications, areas that are completely wided out or removed, 46 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:42.680 and distortions. Now, why would they distort images? Why don't 47 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.759 they just come clean and show us what they have 48 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:50.840 found on the planet. Well, remember, in nineteen sixty, NASA, 49 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:53.879 as it was becoming NASA, actually it was still the 50 00:03:53.879 --> 00:04:00.599 Department of Defense, but NASA was in place, requisitioned a 51 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.400 study by the Brookies Institute of the United States asking 52 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:11.439 what would happen if the public was told that there's 53 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:16.600 evidence of an alien civilization on the planet Mars. And 54 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:20.279 what came back to them was a document, And remember 55 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:24.680 this is nineteen sixty, over sixty years ago. The document 56 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:29.680 came back and revealed that, according to their analysis, the 57 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:36.160 Americans or the planet Earth as a whole, would be traumatized, 58 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:44.480 religions being affected, people committing suicide, institutions failing, people losing 59 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:49.120 faith not only in the church but in the institutions 60 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:54.839 of government. And to this day they still adhere to 61 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:59.120 that outdated document and what we are getting is heavy, 62 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:03.600 heavy censoring. And I've mentioned a little bit about the 63 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:09.319 censoring of imagery, but even in the face of likely 64 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:17.120 skeleton remains, archaeological ruins and great evidence of civilization on 65 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:21.879 the planet, they still prefer to keep this from us. Now. 66 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:27.160 I have mentioned this very very quite recently, that this 67 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:32.079 discovery of an alien civilization is part of our destiny, 68 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:35.959 part of our evolution. And when we discover and when 69 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.040 it is released to us that there is a civilization 70 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:45.560 or there was a civilization on Mars, we immediately evolve 71 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.480 where we understand that we're not the only ones in 72 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:53.879 our cosmos. The big lie is over. And it also 73 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:59.560 allows us to consider other civilizations, living civilizations, which also 74 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:05.079 brings up the question of uapiece unidentified unidentified aerial phenomenon, 75 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:10.120 which is used to be UFOs unidentified flying objects. Who's 76 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:15.399 behind those crafts? Why are those civilizations observing us? And 77 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.759 this is typically outside of the United States. When these 78 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:24.959 crafts land and the beings inside them come out and communicate, 79 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:28.920 that's a whole different animal, a whole different story, a 80 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:33.680 whole different level of awareness that we need to understand. 81 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.040 And it's my belief that when we become more comfortable 82 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.800 that we're not the only ones in our cosmos in 83 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:45.480 the universe, it's a growth it's a huge growth factor. 84 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:51.800 It's an important, needed, and beneficial growth factor. So this 85 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:55.879 is why when we start with an ancient civilization, it's 86 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.360 not such a traumatic situation. It's not such a traumatic 87 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.639 bit of news. Now, one of the things I've run 88 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:05.639 across with a lot of my listeners and a lot 89 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:10.360 of people on our social media is people deny and 90 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:14.040 are afraid to know that there's a there are ruins 91 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:17.560 of a civilization on Mars. Not only are they fearful, 92 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:24.040 they're angry because possibly it changes the perception of their life. 93 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.399 Or more importantly, they don't want to know that. They 94 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.600 want to continue thinking that we are the only beings 95 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.879 in our cosmos and there's nothing else. Well, that's just 96 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.800 not right. That's not right at all. And our ancestors 97 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.360 knew that, and we need to know that because we 98 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:46.560 need to move beyond our current paradigm into the next dimension, 99 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:53.360 into the next century as space travelers, and when you're 100 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.240 a space traveler, you're going to run into other civilizations. 101 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.639 And this is what this is why Mars is an 102 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:04.639 important first step into our evolution. So today's program is 103 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:09.079 the Face on Mars beyond mere tricks of light and shadow, 104 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:18.720 and my guest is image specialist Gary Legier. Discovery New 105 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:24.319 Artifacts is very exciting. And there's a new museum in Cairo, 106 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.800 of all places, that has just opened. It's the Grand 107 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:31.959 Egyptian Museum. 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Mars 126 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.279 is one of my favorite topics, simply because there's great 127 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:25.919 evidence of archaeological ruins, there is evidence of in some places, 128 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:32.240 active life, and as we'll hear today, what we're hearing 129 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:36.639 from NASA is just not only faults, but it's deceiving 130 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.320 and it's just sad that we have to deal with 131 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:46.080 this professional organization who is not necessarily well. I guess 132 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.000 you could say they are lying to us because we're 133 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:51.600 not getting the real story. My returning guests is Gary Lazier. 134 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:54.159 We've had Gary on the program a few times in 135 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:57.879 the past, but he is presenting a new book. It's 136 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:01.480 called The Face on Mars Beyond Mere Tricks of Light 137 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:02.519 and Shadow. 138 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:04.600 The Faces of Mars. 139 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.000 Oh, sorry about what I say, Okay, The Faces of 140 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:12.720 Mars Beyond the Yeah, beyond mere Tricks of Light and Shadow. 141 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.919 Gary is known as the Mars revealer. This is that's 142 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.080 his tag name, and for years he would not give 143 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.639 his real name because he felt uncomfortable about divulging this material. 144 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:26.960 And I gotta say this about Gary. He is a 145 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:32.679 top notch image specialist in the same kind of quantities 146 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:35.559 and quality that we get from Mark and other people 147 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.440 that we have on the show. So Hey, Mark, Carlotto 148 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:42.519 is the one we've had on the show before. So hey, Gary, 149 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:46.519 Welcome to Earth Ancients, and congratulations on this book. 150 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:51.120 Thank you very much. It's a little slow going because 151 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:55.559 you know, I just wanted to put this thing together. 152 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:57.919 Well what I felt was the time for me to 153 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:02.279 do so, because Cliff, as you know, it's been over 154 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:06.799 twenty years since we even had any real serious look 155 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:10.720 and study and book about it. The last ones well, 156 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:13.200 you know, you mentioned doctor Carlotto. He had the case 157 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:17.120 for the face etc. That was more than twenty years. 158 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:21.399 Richard Hogland, the Monuments of Mars that was more than 159 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.200 twenty years, and some other people that would you know, 160 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:29.600 touch base on the face and stuff, but no stronger, 161 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:34.960 no stronger case than Hogland's and with the compiled help 162 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.559 he had with that again, Carloto, Brandon Burgo of this 163 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:43.279 that would have done that subject was more than twenty years. 164 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.559 So you know, we've had a lot of things happen 165 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.039 and a lot of data that we have gained and 166 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.279 garnered over that time until now. Because remember back then, 167 00:12:55.039 --> 00:13:00.200 as big as controversies and fanfare and whatnot, it was 168 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:04.039 only due to a simple minimal amount of imagery they 169 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.759 had access at that time, mainly the Viking data and 170 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:12.120 the Global Surveyor was just coming into play, and no 171 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:17.080 real efforts since then. Really Hoakland, you know, would put 172 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.919 out on the Enterprise mission a lot of good articles 173 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:23.399 about the face at that time, still challenging NASA, but 174 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:29.000 no further books or efforts of that type of caliber 175 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:31.919 which laid out as you know, a lot of information, right, 176 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:38.480 scientific information from those fields of science. So but I 177 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:41.519 came at it like, well, you know, you know, doing 178 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:43.919 the more revelation. You know, I've been connected to many 179 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.039 of these individuals, some have become friends and stuff and 180 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.840 whatnot and colleagues. But to me, that's not the issue. 181 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:54.440 The issue is the data, and the data is what 182 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.720 counts because over the years up until now, since those 183 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.759 books were written, we have multiple sources and multiple imagery 184 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:08.039 showing that this thing not only never disappeared according to 185 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.200 the NASA's original life from Viking that was, you know, 186 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:15.080 gone a few hours later, it's still there in every 187 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:21.480 single image. We have multiple views, multiple spectrums or resolutions also, 188 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:26.000 and the best resolution one that we got up there 189 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:29.360 now is as you know, the Mores reconnaissance orbit has 190 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.360 two cameras on it, the high rise camera and also 191 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:37.360 the CTX camera camera, which is abbreviated for context. So 192 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:40.279 the context camera would look down, you know, take its 193 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:43.639 imagery and then that's why they call it context whatever 194 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:45.879 they see in that, and the high rise zooms in 195 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.480 on what the context is seeing and it'll do its 196 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:52.440 thing right. So that's good. That's a twofold they should 197 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:55.240 have thought it that long ago, but it is what 198 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:59.279 it is. And over time, you know, we've gotten so 199 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:04.360 many amounts from Mars honesty, even Mars expressed grace less 200 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:06.879 with a couple we'll get into that later. 201 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.039 I think it's great, though, Gary, that you had doctor 202 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:15.600 John Brandenburg right the forward, because not only does he highlight, 203 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:21.080 it's wonderful because his book and Death on Mars is 204 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:27.200 a nice contribution to the whole Mars mystery. And of 205 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:30.240 course we know that he predicts that it was a 206 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:36.600 thriving planet that was nuked basically in some kind of 207 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:40.000 a war that leveled and destroyed the atmosphere but also 208 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:44.120 likely killed most of the inhabitants on the surface. So 209 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.320 that was great that he did that, so wonderful. So 210 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:51.000 let's talk about this. How you open the book. You 211 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:56.440 get into the actual history of earthman's interest in Mars, 212 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:02.840 which I think is great, and talk about your feelings 213 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.480 and why you decided to bring that up, because you 214 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:14.080 talk about Kepler and Newton presenting observations of the nearby 215 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.759 planetary systems, and that kind of got us interested in 216 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:18.919 local planets, didn't it. 217 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:23.879 Yes, especially a personal Loll. You mentioned Kepler, and then 218 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:29.799 they didn't have the advanced telescopic abilities that personval Loll 219 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:35.240 had and others. And when Lowell would look through the camera, 220 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.919 I mean the camera the telescope at Mars, he was 221 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:44.639 believing he was seeing patterns, which is really there. Scientists 222 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.519 officials would like to say, oh, those are just artifacts 223 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:50.559 from the air and the camera lens. That's not true, 224 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.200 but he would term them because how they look geometrically. 225 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:58.919 Did multiple drawings of that mapping the planet over time 226 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:02.600 to each observation that he was able to get good 227 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:06.279 glimpses of it, he would draw it out, and it 228 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:10.519 looked like geometric network patterns, which he believed, or canals 229 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:16.319 for a dying civilization, for which with seasonal changes or 230 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:23.839 periodic planetary changes, the waters collected at the top and 231 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:27.160 south at the north and south would as they melt, 232 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:31.359 they would fill in and irrigate through this canal network 233 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:36.119 of which he believed those lines represent. Now, because being 234 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.000 so far away, yeah, it would be common sense to 235 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:43.640 think something like that, But I believe that what he 236 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:49.400 is seeing is actually the geometric sculpting of the entire planet. 237 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.480 I'd come across with a different tooth in this too. 238 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:57.240 Get ready, everybody, eke. I believe that Mars, as crazy 239 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:01.200 as it sounds, has been artistically vaulted on an entire 240 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:07.599 planetary scale before the whoopie doos, which means cataclysmic events, 241 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:11.200 natural or otherwise, it. 242 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:15.160 Was artistically sculpted. Gary, Are you seeing which I have seen, 243 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:20.799 that the civilization purposely went out and created these giant 244 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:24.480 relief sculptures and images that you can only see from 245 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.039 the atmosphere, or are you seeing something else? 246 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:31.839 Well you could, well you would be able to see 247 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:36.640 it from afar obviously, but that not just certain structures 248 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:40.880 that were sculpted or whatnot, but the entire planetary surface 249 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.079 has its own grids and lines. In the way of 250 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:50.720 the mastery artists on with the ability to sculpt the 251 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:58.039 planetary surface literally and whether it's rock utilizing, what metal utilizing, 252 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:02.680 potentially lie beings on the surface to come in and 253 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.359 also do things after the main cutting has been done. 254 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:09.880 It's really an amazing deald In theory when you consider 255 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:12.640 the things of what we're gonna look at, and when 256 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:16.720 we detail of the face itself, because the face is 257 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:21.400 artistically sculpted. It's not eroded, it's not collapsed, it's not 258 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:25.599 created by windblown sheep and none of that. The whole 259 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:30.640 thing has artistry, ornate artistry which not only makes the face, 260 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:35.160 but the area aren't around the face, and continuing on 261 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:40.200 and on and on. Now do they happen to use 262 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:43.880 natural features in order to do some of this sculpting. 263 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:47.799 That's possible. I don't know much. We need boots on 264 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.559 the ground to really determine these things. But like you said, 265 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:54.720 a lot as crazy as this theory of mind sounds. 266 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:56.920 I doubt they would be looking for that right away, 267 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.319 though I do predict they'll be able to see that 268 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:03.480 upon going there, because there's no softening or obfuscation that 269 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.559 could be done. And I believe each member that goes 270 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:09.559 would have to be breathed because you don't want to 271 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:11.759 have a lot of heart attacks before you get there 272 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:14.119 of what there they expect. 273 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:18.480 So you're saying that your belief is that the planet's 274 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:24.000 surface has been archa architecturally engineered. 275 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:27.519 And archaeologically that falls in but both hands, yes, sir. 276 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:32.279 And you do you say that because of the Sidonia 277 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:34.680 region or are you talking about just everything that you 278 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.839 see that this image that is available to you has 279 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:39.359 a part of. 280 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.799 The picture, part of the bigger picture, correct, part of 281 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:45.079 the bigger picture worldwide? So like not only is where 282 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.079 it started for me obviously with the face in ninety 283 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.480 eight and when I came to see it and I 284 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:54.000 was like, you know, this doesn't make sense because the 285 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:59.119 art continues on, it continues on into the surrounding areas 286 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:03.279 where my my processing skills will null and void. Really, 287 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.440 back then I was going off of whatever NASA, and 288 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:10.599 now I produce views which we'll get into later that 289 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.400 showed a detail of what I would see near the 290 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:18.039 face originally from ninety eight onward. That the details continue 291 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:22.319 on the surface artistically, not like as a chaot chaotic, 292 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:29.160 unnatural looking thing, but the lines geometries. Think of like 293 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:34.039 remember Charlotte's web. Think think of a Charlotte Web type 294 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:38.720 character that's able to do mastery beautiful ordinate images and 295 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:41.759 their webs, and then an image within an image, whether 296 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:44.599 the image as they overlay with different things and at 297 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:47.519 different times and maybe angles of the sun or times 298 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:50.559 of the seasons or times of the year, various details 299 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:53.960 can peek through from various levels. Does that make sense. 300 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:58.240 It's really extreme, And I know we don't have to 301 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:00.440 go on that tangent, but I just want to throw 302 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.200 that out there because this is what they're really seeing. 303 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:07.359 And so for after all this time, nothing has just 304 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:13.720 proven my crazy claim, if anything is. But I accept 305 00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:16.640 that people find that hard to accept and see. But 306 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:19.160 that's okay. In time and as my skills get better 307 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:23.079 to reveal these details on these service in these images 308 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:28.039 than the more clarity that they like to provide for us, 309 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.400 it will become known. And as you mentioned, Sidonia and 310 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.359 how NASA really loves to steer clear from this place 311 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:42.680 as much as possible, even answering about it. They're not 312 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:45.720 allowed to talk about it. They're not allowed to even 313 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:50.640 mention that there's any hints of artificiality or extraterrestrial intelligence. 314 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:53.599 And this goes back to the original story of when 315 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.960 it was discovered. Many like Hogland presented in his book 316 00:22:57.240 --> 00:22:59.480 how it was like Tobias Ow and naming it head. 317 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:02.880 Oh my god, look at that. But that's also a 318 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:07.519 cover story from a source I cannot name who had 319 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.279 told me that how we really got the original image 320 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:13.119 of the face of why we even get to see 321 00:23:13.160 --> 00:23:18.599 it now is because the Soviets back then, in the 322 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.319 Viking days, we were still in the Cold War, remember yeah, 323 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:24.599 and they were breaches, you know, they were in like 324 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.839 you know, Colonel Corso Stephen said they had to have 325 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:31.920 a nut file compartmentalized places because they were really probing 326 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:36.240 not just for our you know, Cold War issues of 327 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.759 trying to find about weapons and stuff. They really wanted 328 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.640 to know about Roswell and they really were interested in 329 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:44.880 Mars so some So the long story short there of 330 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.480 what I was told again by an unnamed person that 331 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:53.799 the Soviets back then had received the xerox picture of 332 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.359 what they had found, the face, and they touted it 333 00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:58.279 around the world. 334 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:03.119 So NASA had a couple with something also the Russians 335 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:04.640 out of them huh wow. 336 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.880 Well right, And but that made it also the other 337 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:12.039 nations that hey, where there's something really on Mars. And 338 00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:15.480 that's why I believe in time deals had to have 339 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.359 been made of something for the US to help them 340 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:23.119 and which may be a good thing anyway, to help 341 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:26.240 them be able to get there to study it themselves. 342 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:30.519 And what has happened since then you have international space 343 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:35.359 agencies of Mars, even existential enemies at Mars making progress, 344 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:39.559 making a space a place that's obviously a war fighting 345 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:44.160 domain potentially as well as a place to be able 346 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:47.519 to not just change the nation, but to change the 347 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.240 world and or to control the world. 348 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.680 So let's talk a little bit about some of the 349 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:55.839 early parts of this book. I want you to talk 350 00:24:55.839 --> 00:25:02.000 about Percival and Lows Mars Canals. Now he made this. 351 00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:07.039 He was using what we would consider a rudimentary telescope, 352 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:12.319 but he made some fairly significant discoveries that turned out 353 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:15.839 to be false because he was kind of embellishing on 354 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.640 what he saw, but you mentioned that the canals. Did 355 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.400 he find anything else of significance? 356 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:30.599 Well, he again, he seized because of how the geometry 357 00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:36.319 would look at whatnot they would he would obviously there 358 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:40.079 was a striving civilization, but it was dying. Because he 359 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:42.920 would also notice a lot of dust storms. So he 360 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:48.240 can see, in his opinion, building a civilization around because 361 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.440 of the canals that it's a it's a very rough place. 362 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.519 It had, it had some whoop de deus, and it 363 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.960 made a struggle to survive. Now, there was a movie 364 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:01.480 Cliff and I have it on one of my YouTube 365 00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:05.160 channels I can't access anymore with millions of us. Surprisingly, 366 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:11.960 from nineteen fifty two it had Peter Graves called Planet Mars. Wait, 367 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.000 red Planet Mars or Planet Mars. I think it was 368 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:18.599 red Planet Mars, but either way, isn't it. At the 369 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.599 beginning it was like they're observing Mars and it would 370 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.519 show the ice caps at the top and the canals, 371 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.359 and then as the water melted, then it was black 372 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.480 and white. Now mind you, but you could tell in 373 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.519 the canals. He's like, well, now they're shiny. Why is 374 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.880 it shiny? Well, because it are melting water. Therefore, the 375 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:42.880 sun's reflections. And again that was built on what was 376 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.920 theorized and pretty much accepted as the most possible means, 377 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.359 based on, like you said, the limitations of lulls observations 378 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:55.559 to build and theorize the civilization around them. That made 379 00:26:55.559 --> 00:27:00.319 that feasible. But the mariner, you know, probes obviously shot 380 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:02.839 that down in a lot. But I'm sure that they 381 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.960 see what I described, that those patterns didn't go away. 382 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:10.119 They're part of a much bigger, artistical, ornate network that 383 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.119 they will never want to admit. And the cliff I 384 00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:17.039 told others there too of a time that if NASA 385 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.839 is speeding the mare is after all them months, I'm 386 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:25.160 sure they must have a camera facing forward because as 387 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.799 they record all that data, they could even speed it 388 00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:32.680 up so they would see those patterns. But as you're 389 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.480 going there, the patterns would be changing, they would shifting. 390 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.119 As it gets bigger and bigger, you would still see 391 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:44.079 the patterns changing and shifting. And that's the theory. Again, 392 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:47.240 I can't prove it, but if I'm NASA's sign, if 393 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.839 I thought of it, you know, that would be great 394 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.880 to study those canals and learn that they're not only 395 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.599 not canals they had to come up with another excuse. Oh, 396 00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.240 you see, it just looks like a moon or whatever. 397 00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:01.160 You know, there was totally distrust. But yet if they 398 00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.680 were looking for that real question by doing what I said, 399 00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:06.680 they would see Oh and we could never let no 400 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.279 one know this. It's a little intelligent. They would see 401 00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:13.359 that the planet was sculted. Even with its bombardments and 402 00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.480 issues that have happened over the years, you still have 403 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:21.519 the main artistical imprint in its foundations. Does that make sense? Yea. 404 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.200 So it's funny because you have you have Loll ushering 405 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:31.440 in our interest in space, and you say, which I 406 00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:36.559 thought was interesting that Loll inspired guard who developed the 407 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.519 liquid fuel for early rockets. So talk about the progression 408 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.759 from uh, looking at Mars to having an interest in 409 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.440 becoming space adventurers. 410 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.880 Well, well, again this goes back to the heart of 411 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:54.680 the matter of even the issue of the book of 412 00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.519 why I brought that all up, because if you look 413 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:02.880 at Lowell's finding and then how this before we even 414 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:08.599 went to space orbit, let alone Mars. This were talked 415 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.559 about the twenties, thirties, forties. Well, well, they finally sent 416 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.400 something up in the sixties, right to go to Mars, 417 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.200 the Mariner missions, so you had a quite a few 418 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:26.880 decades there to build up this this societal concept of 419 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.279 what the potentially expect from Mars is fascinating, right, and 420 00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:35.480 the are we alone question, you know, was bound and 421 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:38.720 it was pretty much accepted. And when you know, they 422 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:43.440 were many people were disillusioned and hurt because when they 423 00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:47.039 said at the Mariner that there was nothing there. But 424 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:50.119 it was always a goal to go to Mars. I 425 00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:53.599 don't think just because of Lowell's findings. I've also put 426 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:59.039 in the book about Nicola Tesla with the recorded the 427 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:04.079 recording and the receiving of messages, he believes he was 428 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.359 communicating with Mars. So there's a lot of factors. And 429 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:13.160 because of those decades of Lowell in the societal mindset 430 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.599 what to expect, obviously the government had interests to go 431 00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.039 check it out, you know, so that was going to 432 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.440 be on the board, uh to look at. 433 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:27.200 But it is because Gary talk real briefly about what 434 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:33.759 Tesla UH found. He he was testing some uh what 435 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:38.839 it was very early WiFi, and he got some was 436 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.799 it messages or more like signals from what he thought 437 00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.400 was Mars. 438 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:51.400 Well, it's even better than that. Hold on. Sorry, he's 439 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.359 even better than that clip and everyone else because he 440 00:30:55.440 --> 00:31:02.279 actually claimed he was communicating, that there was communicat. Now 441 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.319 over the years people have said, well, he was contacting 442 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:09.480 and connecting with the Black Night satellite. That's another subject 443 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:13.880 for something else obviously relatable potentially thereof might know to 444 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.039 history or might not not just a passers but of Mars. 445 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:23.200 But he claimed that he was receiving the signals from 446 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:27.519 Mars and stuff, and that even by the electrical experiments 447 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.640 he was doing, he was proposing that we could also 448 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:37.359 use that to send craft to Mars womb by jettison 449 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.880 using that worldwide and maybe maybe you could, maybe you could, 450 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:48.160 and you know, we have a dismantled, degradated system of 451 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.720 what Tesla was actually doing that was perfected in the past. 452 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.880 I mean, you're the pyramid man. I think certainly you 453 00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.680 could have stoot and a tune to well, if what 454 00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.279 he was doing in the pyramids maybe connected to something 455 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.440 like that, the volume of power may be big enough 456 00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.720 to actually send craft to Mars or beyond. You're talking 457 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:09.559 pyramids on other planets. 458 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.119 You're talking about warren Cliffe Tower that he built. 459 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.000 Right, But but that's like you know, some people say 460 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.920 that the pyramids have a concepts of that mind, but 461 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.960 it would be an obvious and much larger magnitude. Uh, 462 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.240 and capability you know, that reach out into the heavens, 463 00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:32.640 you know, not just given power from the ether of 464 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.559 the earth, you know, to the earth. And uh, it's 465 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.119 so it's incredible. But he actually believe he was communicating 466 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.640 with the Martians. I haven't read too much on what 467 00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:46.720 was actually stated in those communications. Uh, but the government 468 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.880 may know, you know, they everyone, you know, John Trump, 469 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.960 they all grabbed that stuff up. Hopefully that's a blessing. 470 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.640 We'll find out how Cliff. But uh, because it is 471 00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.319 something to which we don't have to worry about all 472 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:03.119 these problems. Our fossil fuels and everything creates free energy. 473 00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.200 But not only free energy, it gives us the energy 474 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:11.440 to thrive and also expand away from Earth. Because these 475 00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.799 are concepts that could be utilized on multiple planets. Maybe 476 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:19.640 that's why we have pyramids on Mars and supposedly potentially 477 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.519 on other places, but Mars is our prime target where 478 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:26.519 we know for sure this pyramidal things, you know, And 479 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.920 that gets right into this subject of what this book 480 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:33.960 is stemming forth on regards to the face of Mars. 481 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:40.400 Because from around Tesla's time, he was not the only 482 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:46.440 one receiving communications. There was a professor Todd and Jenkins 483 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:52.839 who also it was like the first fax machine as 484 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.440 it was toy'll be able to make a graphic representation 485 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.079 of signals that they would receive. They believe that they 486 00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:03.920 were receiving signals from space also from what I hear 487 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.319 also really about Mars, because Mores was an issue. They 488 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:11.480 knew what Tesla was saying. So they built a thing 489 00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:16.519 to receive signals and it would, you know, show its 490 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.239 blips and dots and maybe in time someone learning to 491 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:23.719 decode and understand what all that represents, you know, But 492 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.679 that was the first early stages, and at the time 493 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.559 it was best then to do so because the world 494 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.039 was not that filled with radio static and stuff like that. 495 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:40.199 But they stop you for a minute, Gary, you're talking 496 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.960 about in nineteen twenty four Jenkins developed the radio camera, 497 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:48.079 which I never heard of before, and he actually was 498 00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:55.199 able to trace the patterns of these signals, and you 499 00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.039 come up with a theory that he actually found an 500 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.280 early face or something. Talk about that. 501 00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.199 Yes, indeed, and matter of fact, as I do, maybe 502 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.360 I could find a picture of it for you. Yes, 503 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:15.679 I'll try now as he now to understand this and 504 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:21.719 to appreciate what you just said. They needed radio silence, 505 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.119 all right, So there was times of the year and 506 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.440 they would even had the governments, the US government made 507 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.599 sure that there was radio silence for a few minutes, 508 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:34.920 not just in this country but around the world when 509 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:40.639 they did this experiment and it was receiving signals that 510 00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:45.280 I can find it here and in those signals, you know, 511 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.880 I'm sure it just to get it more downloaded as data. 512 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:51.360 You know. I'm sure they didn't know how to read 513 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.719 it or if it's said anything, but they would look for, 514 00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.159 you know, obvious patterns and stuff like that like what 515 00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:02.280 they do today. Again, they're probably better at it now. Uh, 516 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.280 I don't want to dead air. I'm trying to find 517 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:04.719 the thing. 518 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:12.039 Is that like an early radio telescope. 519 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.360 That I believe. So I believe because there wasn't a 520 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.880 visual telescope that got them the info. But uh, I 521 00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:20.840 put it the information in the book. But yeah, it 522 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.880 was more like a radio tele to receive and then 523 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:29.199 uh and then the transcribe what was being uh scene, 524 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:33.360 Now I know I have it here here's the secondary so, 525 00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:40.119 and in that it looked like a side profile of 526 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.360 a face. Kind of reminds me of the old hit 527 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.920 Alfred Hitchcock shows and movies in the past. Remember clip 528 00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:49.119 with that that drawing. It kind of looked like that. 529 00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:54.199 I'm riding chance. I see this. I know I got 530 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.800 it here because I put it in the book. So 531 00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.559 I keep all my files for the book in the file. 532 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:06.480 But h chapter one, right, But yeah, I need to 533 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.079 I don't have the book handy on here just to 534 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:11.360 open and go to it. 535 00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:17.559 I have it here. I have the comparison to like, yeah, 536 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.360 let me just open that for a second. I'll find 537 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.719 this secondary. I know I got it. I don't know 538 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.239 why I'm not saying that I have all images sucked 539 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.079 at SO, but sorry for this time. If you had 540 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:37.039 that at all, I apologize, But uh, come on now, 541 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:39.079 I'm determined to find this clip. I didn't think I 542 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:40.880 would need to pull this up. Maybe I should have 543 00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:41.920 thought more about it. 544 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:46.039 Well, hey, it's it's a it's a rare fine because 545 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:52.719 I had not heard of Jenkins's radio camera, and the 546 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:56.960 imagery was fascinating. I was like blown away that he 547 00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:07.559 had actually imaged signals from Mars. So that's pretty cool. 548 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:09.880 Yeah. 549 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.400 You In the first part of the book, you also 550 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:17.480 go into the American space program where they launched the 551 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:24.000 Mariner nine in twenty or excuse me, nineteen seventy one, 552 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.239 and in those very very rudimentary images we see these 553 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.039 huge dust storms. 554 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:40.440 Can't hear me now? 555 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:41.440 Yeah? 556 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.880 Yeah, sorry, I had a little accident in with my mic, 557 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:48.920 so please repeat that, or. 558 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.000 Yeah, go ahead, show us those images of Jenkins. 559 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.639 Yeah, well that's what I'm that's what I'm looking for. 560 00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:01.679 I don't know why in my file here there's an image. Wow, 561 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.239 it's not supposed to be there. But okay, damn it. 562 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.199 You might have to cut out this dead time. Is 563 00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.320 that a problem. Yeah, don't worry about it. No, just 564 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:12.800 just move on to the. 565 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:17.039 Move on to the death storms. Because I've never seen 566 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:23.280 these photographs before, and I didn't realize that, uh, Mariner 567 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.960 nine its mission was to image the I mean, there 568 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.000 must have been a very rudimentary camera. 569 00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:33.599 Yeah, it was. It was like it was analogue like 570 00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.559 a team basically a ton of a TV camera like, 571 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.039 but it would show like the images of what it 572 00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:46.360 was able to acquire. It was, you know, very cratered uh, 573 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.800 looking like a moon, you know, the moon type thing, 574 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.719 and obviously they use that to their advantages. Whatever the 575 00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:56.920 things that were really seeing, uh, they're able to stash 576 00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:59.559 away and make plans for because NASA does not tell 577 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.559 us that it's about what's on Mars. Uh, let alone 578 00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:10.639 any potential archaeological implications or handiwork of intelligence. And you 579 00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:15.639 know what, I'm really getting frustrated. Now, don't worry about it. 580 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.000 We've got a lot of other things to see. We're 581 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.760 gonna take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors 582 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:26.400 to identify themselves, and will return shortly with my guest today, 583 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:32.519 image specialist Gary Lazier, discussing his due book, The Face 584 00:40:32.599 --> 00:41:23.760 on Mars. Will be right back. My guest today is 585 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.960 image specialist Gary Lagier, who has written a new book 586 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.800 called The Face on Mars. Beyond mere tricks of light 587 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.920 and shadow. This is an in depth look at not 588 00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:37.679 only the Face on Mars, but the city known as 589 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:42.920 Sidonia and the archaeological ruins that are almost visible to 590 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:50.119 the naked eye. Let's talk about what was the purpose 591 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:54.480 of Mariner nine, because I'm not familiar with the various 592 00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:55.360 early missions. 593 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.480 Well, it was the fly by around a view implanets 594 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:00.559 of our soul system. 595 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.719 Oh so they actually programmed in a fly by. And 596 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.199 was it an orbit too or just a fly by 597 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:08.800 of Mars? 598 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.760 No, No, it was it was fly by in the 599 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.800 orbit the planet. That's why I had limited views on 600 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:22.119 what how many images that it could capture? Obviously, Yeah, 601 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.880 I can't believe it. I apologize, clip, but you know what, 602 00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.760 I can send you images of it later if you 603 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.519 want to add that. It don't take too much room. 604 00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:34.159 We'll put that one into the gallery. 605 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.519 All right, Yeah, that'll work. And the picture of Todd 606 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:41.280 and Jenkins. I'll give you the mission. And it's for 607 00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:43.039 the life of me, I don't know why it's not 608 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:43.800 here in my file. 609 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.440 I see not so Mariner nine was a pass by, 610 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.039 but what it caught in was enough to inspire them 611 00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:56.239 to develop the Viking orbit or the Viking mark. And 612 00:42:56.320 --> 00:43:00.880 this is in nineteen seventy five according to your documents. 613 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.960 And talk a little bit about what that uncovered, because 614 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:09.480 that's where we get the shocker, which is the face right. 615 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:14.440 Uh well indeed, well, yeah, they wanted to send Viking 616 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.679 the obviously there was a worthy worthiness and the data 617 00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.440 that they have acquired to go there, and plus public 618 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.480 demand and plus you know, the you know, to be 619 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:26.840 able to get funds. They were a new agency and 620 00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:30.079 they had to do start doing exploration missions, which is 621 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.800 where you brought up before the call for the show 622 00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:37.360 about Brookings and how what Brookings laid out on what 623 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.639 how it should be handled, where they specifically mentioned that 624 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:48.760 upon the future excavation uh explorations UH, that they would 625 00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:54.599 find alien artifacts on the moon, Mars, and Venus. Those 626 00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.360 three was specifically mentioned. And that's incredible because that's like, 627 00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:03.079 well a knowledge, like well, what would make you think that, well, 628 00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.440 we could alude back to the Todd and Jenkins whatever 629 00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.079 they really know, because once that data was acquired, it 630 00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.639 was taken away. It was the questioned you can understand that. 631 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:18.639 Then we had other hints out a face like the 632 00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:24.639 best one is nineteen fifty eight Jack Kirby's comic The 633 00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:28.679 Face of Mars. You know where astronauts go there, they 634 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.840 land on Mars, they climb in the face. Brennan falls 635 00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.400 through the eye of the face and he as he's falling, 636 00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:40.840 he experiences a virtual holographic history of what went on 637 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:47.719 there beings that were there, a war that was unleashed 638 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:54.840 upon Mars and that they had struck I guess the 639 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.360 planet they were at war with, which is what the 640 00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:02.800 asteroid belt now, and that those surviving beings came and 641 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.920 did to Mars, decimated it. That was really interesting because 642 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:12.800 that's nineteen fifty eight and it's given us potential. You know, 643 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:16.360 that they destroyed the planet. They blew up the planet. Now, 644 00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:19.000 whether Mors was a moon of it or not, that 645 00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.280 might have some differences, but certainly it was a planet 646 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:26.280 much greater size than what Mars is and whatever. It's 647 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.000 a bit but people like to say and thing that 648 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.079 maybe Mars was once a moon a satellite of this 649 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.880 large planet, which you know, our Earth is supposedly the 650 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.639 top of If you go, you have people talking about 651 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:41.840 Samerians and Anonochy befores So that's how that ties in. 652 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:48.000 So let's talk about the face. This was imaged in 653 00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:53.719 nineteen seventy five in the Viking mission image number it's 654 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:56.199 number thirty five A seventy two. 655 00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:59.199 Yeah, can I ship screen? 656 00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:02.000 Yeah, go ahead, do your thing. Let's take a look 657 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:06.719 at it. And I think it was an innocent reaction 658 00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:11.119 that one of the scientists or technicians made at their 659 00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:14.119 first view of it, they were like, that's a face. 660 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:17.400 It's like, it's so obvious a face. 661 00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:23.719 Uh. And it was designed to remember that's the story 662 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:27.000 we were told, Cliff, that's the story that we were 663 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.280 told that, like, hey, there's a face. That story came 664 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.880 out after it was discovered the Soviets acquired of Zerom 665 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:39.440 stopping show we get around the world to kick Pope 666 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:40.519 NASA kick them in the. 667 00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.119 Butt, oh right, to kind of say, get let the 668 00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:44.039 can out of the bag. 669 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.480 So who it was the overall overwall. There was the 670 00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.480 first moment even before the Russians acquired that someone, Yeah 671 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:53.679 that's a face. 672 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:57.199 Yeah, show us the photo. You got a photo, all right? 673 00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.480 So I don't know if you you see my screen, 674 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.559 go ahead, do it all right? That that's the cover 675 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:05.039 of my book everyone, the faces of Mars beyond Me 676 00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:10.760 and tricks the light and shadow. Uh? Why you not 677 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.559 wait a minute? Whin it moving? I use this program 678 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.960 all the time. It's supposed to go to the next image, 679 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:31.239 next image. Okay, what's wrong with this? Sorry, Cliff, this 680 00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:35.519 thing is not doing what it's supposed to be doing. Okay, 681 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:39.760 I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna unshare, I'm gonna close 682 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.880 the program, open it again. Maybe that's an issue. It's 683 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.800 a new program, so I but it's it's easier to 684 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:53.960 use feasible for doing shows and such. Open with photos 685 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.360 and that's just a simple photo program. All right, got it? 686 00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.159 All right? Now let me go to share again. So again, 687 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:07.079 sorry for the editing work. When you request for ailing, No, 688 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:14.559 I don't want to have a companion share. Oh all right. 689 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:15.440 Do you see that now? 690 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:15.960 Yep? 691 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:21.159 Okay, that's the cover now, oh there is all right? 692 00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.880 Now is this a Viking image you're showing right now? 693 00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:30.320 Yes, since you brought up Viking now, the mariners is 694 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.400 for all we know, they did not see this supposedly 695 00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.480 with you know, the I think it was Mariner ten 696 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:40.239 or whatnot, or Mariner seven, Marina nine one of them 697 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:44.920 that got closer and I think orbited or at least 698 00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:49.159 they got closer enough to uh take a lot more 699 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.000 pictures uh before it left compared to their previous Now, 700 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.039 I don't know if they had seen it or not 701 00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:59.280 then or anything else really did not scale that would 702 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.639 alert it is for what nineteen seventy six missions of 703 00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:08.039 the Viking orbitors and landers, there was two missions Viking 704 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:13.440 one Viking two, both orbiters, both had landers, both landed, 705 00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.199 and two different spots of the planet, which happened to 706 00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.639 be also the zones where doctor Brandon burg projets that 707 00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.000 the nukes went off. What a coincidence they go to 708 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.840 both sides four thousand miles apart from each other. That 709 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:30.079 makes you really wonder what they knew when Cliff. But anyway, 710 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.920 but yes, so this is a frame thirty five A 711 00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.960 seventy two from the Viking in nineteen seventy six, the 712 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.199 famous face. 713 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:42.840 On mar Let me just ask you real quickly, Gary, 714 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:46.360 have you enhanced this or reprocessed this at all? Or 715 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.599 is this is? I processed it from the raw data? 716 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.800 Okay, so this will be look you want to see NASAs, 717 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:57.039 it'll be softer, you wouldn't see as much details, and 718 00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:01.039 you would see more contrasts, and you know, us obfuscating 719 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:02.800 details for some reason. 720 00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:06.840 But uh yeah, this is uh so to my eye. 721 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:09.519 And I'm not an archaeologist, but I'm kind of a 722 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.800 suit I'm kind of an amateur. This this has obvious 723 00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:20.920 art archaeological implications. These are yeah, just just I mean, 724 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:24.320 this is the first image. Uh not only is the 725 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:29.800 face humanoid. But you got the DNM pyramid. Obviously they 726 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.599 got this pyramid shape, which is huge. 727 00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:33.079 I don't know. 728 00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:35.039 I mean, this thing must be miles across. 729 00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:41.119 It's uh, it's great, like corner to the corner, it's like, uh, 730 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:46.559 two and a half three miles. So we're dealing with 731 00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:48.679 a two and a half mile wide, three mile you know, 732 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:49.880 round off a little bit. 733 00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:53.880 Yeah, I mean the engineering, the engineering alone is just 734 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.719 mind blowing. How they how they did this. So somebody, 735 00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:03.400 somebody begins to adhere to the Brookies Institute document, which 736 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:10.559 is if we reveal information of a dead or loss 737 00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:15.679 civilization on Mars, the inhabitants of Earth will lose their mind. 738 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:20.639 There will be mass suicide, churches, religions would fail, and 739 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:27.360 government agencies would collapse. This is I mean, we talk 740 00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.440 about this ahead of time before we start gary about. 741 00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:33.400 We have this big ancient alien movement of everything on 742 00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:37.559 Earth that we can't explain as the result of alien intervention. 743 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:41.880 This is more of an ancient alien should be. It 744 00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:46.039 should be an ancient alien focus because these are obvious 745 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:48.440 archaeological ruins. 746 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:53.199 On an alien world. There you go, ancient aliens from Walnut, 747 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.679 So go ahead, and explain what we're looking at here, 748 00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:59.400 would you please? So again, this is thirty five a 749 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:04.159 seven and this was what again like a TV camera 750 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:10.119 and analogue camera. I believe they also sent the information 751 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:15.119 back I guess using what is that black white black white, 752 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.679 black white? What's what's that? It's on the tip of 753 00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:20.719 my tongue binary, you know, in order to for the 754 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.119 images and the data to be transposed, and it would 755 00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:29.320 be you know, transform into the pictures and the visual data. 756 00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.199 All right, So I don't know the ins and outs. Again, 757 00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:35.440 that's the where the scientists like Arlotto and Oakland, I 758 00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.639 come up to this book, like you noticed, with a 759 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:41.719 different approach. So, but this is from nineteen seventy sixth 760 00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:45.519 of you that has showed us. And to the left 761 00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.480 of the faces, you know, that's what Oakland and others 762 00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.000 had so much focus and worked on and on called 763 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.960 the city and the city square. And there's the face 764 00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:02.360 casting is his shadow? Now this even then because of 765 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:05.280 the shadow, you know, this thing is huge. 766 00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.840 What is the what's the guest mean? On the actual 767 00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:10.920 height and width. 768 00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.280 Of one mile and a half long from the top 769 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.320 of the forehead, the top of the head to the 770 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:21.079 bottom of the tin of the very structure one and 771 00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:25.360 a half miles from left to right. It's one mile. 772 00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:30.400 Now look at the shadow. This thing is fifteen hundred 773 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:35.760 feet high, minimum fifteen hundred feet high. So this is 774 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.480 not something that could just be blown away by the 775 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:44.000 wind or destroyed. And even in this image clip, I mean, 776 00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.960 if you can look out, look at the artistic markings 777 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:53.039 of the face, follow it away on the surrounding artscape. 778 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:54.320 That's what I call it. I don't call it the 779 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:58.039 landscape that's not sand. But looking at that, you can 780 00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.480 see all those like patterns. Do you see that in 781 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:00.840 the image? 782 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.719 Club I I it's too it's too blurry. It's it's 783 00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:06.920 too rudimentary to see any great detail. 784 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:12.880 Fair enough, all right, let's say we can help that. Okay, 785 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:14.039 that should be a little better. 786 00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:17.480 That's a little bit better. But I have to say this, Gary, 787 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.280 I want to just make this comment. When we look 788 00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.840 at this very first image of the face and what 789 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:27.079 we get later from NASA, it's obvious that they are 790 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:35.360 totally suppressing the details of this image. If we could 791 00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.639 see this with a very good camera, I bet you 792 00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.199 we'd see a completely different look than what we get 793 00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:42.920 in that cat box image. 794 00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:47.239 Well, well we'll get into that cop box soon, so 795 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:50.800 I'm gonna show that. But yeah, well that point bring 796 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:55.360 up again. But this face, and even for a low 797 00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.239 resolutions it's detail is good. The details that we have 798 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:03.559 from higher resolution. I mean I've done more than just 799 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.199 look at this phase bypasser. I've been studying this phase 800 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:10.360 intently with every new piece of little data, low resolution, 801 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:15.119 high resolution. Everyone observed so I can get back on 802 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:18.679 his study. I've been studying this face, matching up data points. 803 00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.039 The point you make I have heard before from many, 804 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.719 But that's because many people and I'm not saying this 805 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:30.400 to be sarcastic or anything from them not studying it. 806 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:33.800 Does that make sense to really know something every nook 807 00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.960 and cranny. It's not gonna happen in ten minutes with 808 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:41.400 someone that's not really familiar. But when you study this 809 00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:44.400 for so many years and so much time, and then 810 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:50.079 with other image data again from lower resolution, even lower resolution, 811 00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.840 to what we have here to like you mentioned high 812 00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:59.360 rise imagery and stuff like that, these details are there, 813 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:07.000 but I would say more obfuscated now, well, I mean 814 00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.639 harder to see. They make it harder to see. They 815 00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.559 try to make it look as natural as possible by 816 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:19.079 so relief, by overcontrasting, so it's harder to bring out details. 817 00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:21.719 I'm going to show you some examples of that everybody, 818 00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:24.920 because it's the truth. And as far as I see again, 819 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.119 I'm not trying to have a big head or nothing. 820 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.639 I'm the only one that's been showing the actual relief 821 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.000 details on the face and around the face out of 822 00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:36.639 pretty amongst all the Mars researchers. 823 00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.119 I have to say this though, I think it's funny 824 00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:43.480 that you said the Russians out of the Americans with this, 825 00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.480 because I don't think we would be allowed to see 826 00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:51.159 this face if the Russians hadn't already exposed it. It's 827 00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.400 exactly creative detail. 828 00:56:53.119 --> 00:57:00.559 Exactly, it's exactly. It's a perfect humanoid, a guy on 829 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:04.199 a visage. It's it's it's not a row shar test. 830 00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:09.440 It's not parabidolia. I got I got babies a year 831 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:14.440 and a half years old, two years old, three face face, 832 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.480 and I don't coach them. I'm just doing it in 833 00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:19.840 their round. I'll make sure that you know the fact 834 00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:22.400 they always look at screens. You don't have to guide 835 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:26.920 them with anything. Face. Oh okay, that's you know, And 836 00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.920 that's the thing they they they put labels on things 837 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:35.239 to make it like it's it's a detriment our. It's 838 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.800 our fault that we see a face. Oh, you're a 839 00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:41.440 bad person, not because you know, it just comes naturally. 840 00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.760 You're a naturally bad person. Because it's a defect that 841 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:47.400 that's making you see a face, you know, I mean, 842 00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:50.800 ridiculous assumptions. Is one and most part of the story 843 00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.599 about how we got that image to the Russians. From 844 00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:59.239 the same person. He also told me that if NASA 845 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:04.320 was told they're scientists and everything and they're geologists there 846 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:08.639 and that's all I'll say, were to even hint at 847 00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.960 an alien intelligence or a face or anything, that not 848 00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.199 only would they lose their jobs and whatnot, and that 849 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:20.079 NDASA signed NASA would lose their funding. There would be 850 00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:25.159 no public NASA this day. That was never changed. 851 00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:29.599 See if I think, yeah, I think today if they 852 00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:34.239 were to say we have found evidence of archaeological civilized 853 00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.960 ruins on the planet Mars, people would go, let's throw 854 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:38.719 some money at that. 855 00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.519 Yeah, And that was and that was the goal. That 856 00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:44.880 was the goal you mentioned it earlier. Thank you, Cliff 857 00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.320 for making that point, because that was the goal, you said, 858 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.360 like from the era in the decades before we went 859 00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.800 to space and the Brookings, the need to make Brookings 860 00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:56.599 the fascination. They knew that in order to get that 861 00:58:56.679 --> 00:59:01.360 space program off the ground, it would get more cars, 862 00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:03.800 would get money, and they would get the money. They 863 00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:05.880 made a lot of money going. I had doctor guild 864 00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.679 Livin on my show to Marson revelation a few times 865 00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:11.159 in the pass before he died. God rest his soul. 866 00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.800 We're going to get vindication from yet everybody, I promise, 867 00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:18.599 But uh, he even told me it was. It was 868 00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:22.800 basically a scam. They put things on there, like the 869 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:26.519 light detection experiments, so they came to him. They blackballed 870 00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:31.119 them because it detected life. And never since they had 871 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:35.920 never on any mission since Yeah, and this is his words, 872 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:40.880 have they decided or allowed him to his proposals or 873 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:45.039 anyone's proposals to put on light detection experiments, only experiments 874 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:48.360 and the millions and billions to look for possible signs 875 00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:53.400 a possible past life, never to find out to replicate. 876 00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:56.960 Now though he said, though you've got both sites of 877 00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:02.079 the landers, replicable test showing consists the results indicating positive 878 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:05.400 s lines of life. What more replication would you want? 879 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.480 But yes, with better tools and the things that we 880 01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:13.119 have now, it makes more sense to reaffirm those experiments. 881 01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.360 NASA would not do it. The last proposal he had 882 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.119 sent to them, they didn't bother open it. They sent 883 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:25.559 it back to him in a cab. Now, how the disgraceful? Now, 884 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:29.280 so they wanted this thing, that's the question. But he 885 01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:32.719 told me that it was all about the money. They 886 01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:35.360 put these experiments on board, saying, yeah, we're going to 887 01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:39.000 look for life. Why Cliff, because they didn't expect the 888 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:45.519 fun I did. They knew that we're not gonna find it. Anyway, 889 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.400 let's do this. They wanted it to make it on 890 01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.519 a bison tental year, which made it even greater. They wanted, 891 01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:53.320 you know, during the summer of seventy six, people eating 892 01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:55.800 their hot dogs, they only had quarters made the bison 893 01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:58.119 tendel will remember that. I mean, you had so many 894 01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.559 things and tho it Behold, that's the year they get 895 01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:06.559 the detections of the radio uh, radioactive isotopes for nuclear 896 01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.519 weapons that can only come from nuclear weapons or a supernova, 897 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:12.840 which ain't a supernova because mores would there be there'll 898 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.079 be no mores to study let alone this can. 899 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.280 You can you update this image because this is still 900 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:23.280 talking early seventies, but you've enhanced it. 901 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:28.800 Well, yes, well I'll move on. Let's see better process view. 902 01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:33.400 That's that's a little bit better. Still pretty similar, well for. 903 01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:36.280 For its age. But my point was to bring out 904 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:42.320 details that no one has really focused in on our shown. 905 01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.079 You know what I mean, and you've seen it. You've 906 01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:49.519 seen it, so all right, boom, there you go, good quality, uh, 907 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.039 even for them. It brings out a little more detail. 908 01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.679 Now I want to do this point about the face clip. 909 01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.880 I'm sorry it in the road, but let me finishes 910 01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:03.360 about uh about the gill because we found what that year, 911 01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:07.000 the radio isotopic of zen On one twenty xen On 912 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:11.519 one twenty nine, brandon Burg's model and showing nuclear weapons. 913 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:16.639 It found the face. It had a trifecta because then 914 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:21.079 they discovered the life. Boom, that's it. Case closed. They 915 01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:23.960 were mad. They were mad that now they knew that 916 01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:28.800 more money was coming in. They want these questions solved, 917 01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:34.480 and no answeren's Viking. They took so long that they 918 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.559 waited until the late nineties to send the Mars Observer, 919 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:43.599 which got what it disappeared at a precisely six pm 920 01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.920 where it went black everybody. But then they sent Global 921 01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:50.440 surveyor basically using the sum of attained the same quality 922 01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:55.679 camera except some lowered prices or experiments, and then we 923 01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:00.960 got further imageries of Sidonia and everything. None. Now a 924 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:05.719 clip checked this one out. This one is abously. 925 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.159 Now I've never seen this. Is this your your enhancements 926 01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:10.039 or is this the actual? 927 01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:13.920 And uh, it's my processing from a low resolution Mars 928 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:19.840 Express camera. Now if you notice, we have never seen 929 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:24.480 the face like this again from any NASA image. Correct? Uh, 930 01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:27.559 where's the shadow? Where's the shadow? Want to see it? Replicated? 931 01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.719 Where's the shadow? They never do it? But yet Mars 932 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.760 Express gives us an image where the shadow is being seen. 933 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.239 Now get this, look at the study. Study it closely. 934 01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:42.719 Though it's lower resolution, everyone, that doesn't mean it's not 935 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.519 valuable for any data I processes from the raw. So 936 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:50.960 everything you're seeing in this image, there's not a peg artifacts, there's. 937 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:54.480 No you see Mars Express, that's the European Space Agency 938 01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:56.039 right correct. 939 01:03:56.599 --> 01:04:01.000 Now, notice the shadow, the shadow is at a different peri. Yeah, 940 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:04.719 almost it's coming into the zone of where this one is. 941 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:07.920 This one's like more at what between four and five 942 01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:12.079 five o'clock four and five o'clock pointing to this one, 943 01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:17.159 it's more like three point thirty four o'clock. So you know, 944 01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:20.599 that's good that no one else And I'm like, damn, 945 01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:24.000 it's a shame that someone else has the Uh, the 946 01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.559 cajone needs to take it more is express. But notice 947 01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:28.960 how it's lower resolution. 948 01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.239 You know what I have to say about. 949 01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:34.519 Casting a shadow. At least we finally have another image 950 01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:37.920 from someone that shows what is casting its shadow. 951 01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:42.000 But what's really startling about this image Gary is and. 952 01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.000 After DNM casting its shadow. 953 01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:48.000 Yeah, but what's interesting is if we have a camera 954 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:51.159 that can enhance the pixels, it's going to be a 955 01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:57.119 devastating image of great design and engineering. 956 01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:01.159 Yes, you're right, because he what I have there Now, 957 01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:03.880 I see it because I'm used to the art. I'm 958 01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:07.039 used to I studied this, I know this service. I 959 01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:11.039 see it all over right now. There's no image pixelations, 960 01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.599 no distortions. This is actually in the data. It's just 961 01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.639 low resolution. It could have been better quality, but it 962 01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:21.559 doesn't take away the artscapes. Remember I started focusing on 963 01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:24.800 the artscape so that the face sits on. That ultimately 964 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:29.119 led me worldwide to my dairy. Now, this one is 965 01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:33.039 the second image of nineteen seventy six that was found 966 01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:38.280 by Greg Molinar and T. Pietro Vince d Pietro, remember 967 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:41.320 after thirty five a seventy two, the one with the shadow. 968 01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:45.119 They said, oh, they took an image a few hours later. 969 01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.159 It shows that the face disappeared or so longer there 970 01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:52.400 they were lying. They found an image when they looked, 971 01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:55.840 were able to look at the time when they did that. 972 01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:59.679 This image was taken actually later, I think in the 973 01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:04.079 same month or a couple months away. This is title seven. 974 01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:07.239 The first one was thirty five. A's orbit thirty five, 975 01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:10.840 so this is seventy eight thirteen. This was orbit seventy, 976 01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:13.719 so not far away from each other. They were able 977 01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:19.360 to image the thing again without the shadow. Yeah, okay, 978 01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:22.920 and it looks They found that in an this labeled file. 979 01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:25.679 It was label it was placed in a different file 980 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:31.519 and they discovered this which they after themselves. D Pietro 981 01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.719 Molnar the TNM pyramid, that's how it's named. I'm about 982 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:39.000 to do a video in fact called the Pyramids of 983 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:43.119 Mars King of the Morrison Pyramids, the DNM pyramid. I'll 984 01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:44.800 send you a link to that when I'm done with that. 985 01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:48.039 But you know, it a cool shape from shading of it, 986 01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:51.519 it's pretty wild from a Mars recard. 987 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:55.280 What do they suspect that this region they call it 988 01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:58.679 the city? But is the thinking that it was a 989 01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:03.880 civic area where people met and there was a meeting 990 01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:08.000 area in one of these buildings, or what is the 991 01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:13.559 general thinking of Sidonia Gary, Oh. 992 01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:14.960 That we would need to see that area more on 993 01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:17.840 focus Back to thirty five a seventy two. Again, there's 994 01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:21.480 the DNM pyramid. There's the face now to the left, 995 01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:24.760 which seventy eight to thirteen does not have in it 996 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:27.840 is what they called the city. Those features, they are 997 01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.199 what they called the city. Obviously. The second one booms 998 01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:34.199 right out at you as a pyramid, right, it's not 999 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.119 a pyramid as we know it. But Martis has bizarre 1000 01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:42.960 world of various shaped pyramids based in geometry. Everyone says, 1001 01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:46.159 a pier pyramid, pyramids at four slides. Yeah, but what 1002 01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:47.920 you know here on earth? But how do you know 1003 01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:50.639 even here on earth that may be destroyed or somewhere 1004 01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:53.880 else out there, you can still make pyramids out of 1005 01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:58.719 various geometrical shapes. Even Carl Sagan said that you look 1006 01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:02.519 for the geometry. That's how you look for previous civilizations 1007 01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:07.480 techno signatures. Right, it was Naturing doing this. Well. This 1008 01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:12.679 was right between the second and under those little cluster 1009 01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:16.760 of features here that was called the city square, and 1010 01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:20.439 next to a third it's right right next to a 1011 01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:25.279 three pronged domus type structure. It's pretty cool with pointing 1012 01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:26.880 those tips of pointy. 1013 01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:31.399 Have you detected any staircases or interests, entrances or exits 1014 01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:35.279 out of any of these buildings, not per. 1015 01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:38.399 Se with the resolution we have, but it is possible 1016 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.800 that there are, I mean, but higher resolution that may show. 1017 01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:47.319 But again it all depends on the master artist on 1018 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.359 that did this. But you ask a good question. I'll 1019 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:53.239 keep it for future reference to alert you if and 1020 01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:57.239 when I find it, so you can see that's the city. 1021 01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.319 So did people congregate there? I mean, they ain't it 1022 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:02.960 after what they could as we know on earth, this 1023 01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:06.000 city the city square people. And how if you go 1024 01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:09.119 from the city square, a little cluster here all the 1025 01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.600 way it goes straight to the face through like the 1026 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:16.640 mouth of something connected to it. You know, and there's geometry, 1027 01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:20.439 cerahedral geometry. Richard Hogland had turned it, and you know 1028 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:25.399 you see those mathematical, scientific layouts of many of these structures. 1029 01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:28.000 I again, I come at it with a different approach 1030 01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:32.359 to add on to the continued research of where they 1031 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:33.119 left off. 1032 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:38.119 Now, so my question to you now in this refined 1033 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:45.039 imagery is we're gonna take a short commercial break to 1034 01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:49.319 allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return 1035 01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:54.880 shortly with my guests today, Gary Lazier, presenting information from 1036 01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.800 his new book, The Face on Mars Beyond Mere Tricks 1037 01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:47.920 of Light and Shadow, will be right back. My guest 1038 01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:51.720 today is immage specialist Gary Lagier, who has written a 1039 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:54.199 new book called The Face on Mars. Gary has been 1040 01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:59.439 imaging and studying planet Mars for over two decades and 1041 01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:02.239 has collected the great archive of photographs that you can 1042 01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:06.079 see in his book, which is now available on Amazon. 1043 01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:13.119 As an image specialist, have you found symbology what we 1044 01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:17.159 would consider numbers or anything that's kind of like, hey, 1045 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.640 this is city X, or this is a this is 1046 01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:24.119 we want to identify this area for those who are 1047 01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:24.760 flying over. 1048 01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:29.800 Well, symbology you brought that up and We're gonna look 1049 01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:32.439 at that this face. There's plenty of that. You notice 1050 01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:35.800 yourself by looking at it, You yourself said, there's a symbol. 1051 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:41.840 What did you see? A hominid humanoid? Is face a face? Right? 1052 01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:46.520 So now that's why I say this is the greatest 1053 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:50.239 techno signature ever discovered. The question of why are we 1054 01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:53.680 alone or not? Is answered by looking at this. This 1055 01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.079 is why NASA don't want to touch it again. They'll 1056 01:11:56.119 --> 01:11:58.479 have that funding pulled all back to that original stuff 1057 01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:01.319 because it's so opten. They had to make such a 1058 01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:04.920 counter reaction from to make it so obvious that they 1059 01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.479 would mock you, like the UFO crowd mock you, shame 1060 01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:12.239 you call you names, Well, call me whatever you want, man. 1061 01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:15.079 But I go by the data and you can see 1062 01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:20.479 this this symbology boom. There's a little bit better processed 1063 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:23.680 image of it. Now go to a more extreme processed 1064 01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:27.039 image of it, you know, And I'm like, okay, each 1065 01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:32.079 of these is valuable now because especially for comparative analysis 1066 01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:35.039 with higher res imagery, I like to try to bring 1067 01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:39.840 out the details as best as possible, to show the 1068 01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:43.119 data points. If that makes sense to I can match 1069 01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:46.600 up with the newer resolutions that might make it harder 1070 01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:48.520 and to confirm some of the features we see in 1071 01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.960 low resolution. But if you have data points, yes, and 1072 01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:56.560 you could, that's the confirmation. So that being said, there 1073 01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:59.199 you go, Cliff, you brought that up, the famous cat box. 1074 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:04.840 Well, that's that's that's an abomination. That's not anything. 1075 01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:09.199 Well, there's reasons for that, not just the quality. It's not. 1076 01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:13.800 It wasn't just the quality obviously of the crapola. And 1077 01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:16.760 but the thing is you could tell see still see 1078 01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:20.199 as high high res. Now I believe they did it 1079 01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:23.039 on purpose. They did it at a time the whomen 1080 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:27.840 they should have been more specific and when they first 1081 01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:29.840 showed it, oh, it shows that's nothing. It's not a 1082 01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:33.800 face at all. Why remember when you go into planets 1083 01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:38.159 at the time when Mar's uh Mars uh not Observer 1084 01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:42.119 Global Surveyor got there, and what other missions do they 1085 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.560 go there? And there's a process called aerobraking, and then 1086 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.920 you look at circles of planet as you gradually lower 1087 01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:51.960 to the orbit and height above the planet, you want 1088 01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:57.840 to be in the position in right. So during aerobreaking, 1089 01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:03.560 almost towards the end, they looked at Siddonia from a 1090 01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:08.760 side view so far away at an angle to try 1091 01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:13.199 to use to mislead the public that what they're seeing 1092 01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.800 shows is not a face at all because it looks 1093 01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.159 like crap. Is kind of hard, but be honest, So 1094 01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:22.960 what you're saying is you see a face even though 1095 01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:23.760 it looks like crap. 1096 01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:28.399 Yeah, they're desperate to change the narrative from a hominin 1097 01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:33.159 face to a cat box, which is just a big 1098 01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:40.680 u uh sandbox with no definition of anything, and uh, 1099 01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:43.960 thinking that that'll be enough for people to not pay 1100 01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:44.920 attention anymore. 1101 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:48.279 Well, right, because people live their lives. They don't expect 1102 01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.119 or encourage people to study the data. It's all take 1103 01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:53.920 their word for everything. But I don't want. 1104 01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.520 To ask you something before we go forward. This is 1105 01:14:57.039 --> 01:15:00.279 not only detrimental to our evolution because we need to 1106 01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:03.119 know that we're not the only ones out there. But 1107 01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:09.720 this is this is uh, it's almost overwhelming and its 1108 01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:18.840 lack of purposeful clarity. But also when you completely when 1109 01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:22.560 you decide that you want to deceive the public, deceive 1110 01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:26.680 them and say there's no life forms there never have 1111 01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:32.720 been on Mars. That's that's a that's terrible, president, insult 1112 01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:35.960 of your intelligence and the people that will. 1113 01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:38.479 Say, Okay, well, look how many do to that today? 1114 01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:42.520 I'm always dude, I've always I've always said that if 1115 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:45.880 they can clarify it, like if the Chinese were to 1116 01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:48.399 land on rover on Mars and actually show the true 1117 01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:51.520 imagery there, or the Russians would say, we're gonna orbit 1118 01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:56.239 and take images of the Chinese. But the problem I'm 1119 01:15:56.279 --> 01:16:00.560 saying is that if NASA and the Powers that Be outed, 1120 01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:06.119 they should not only be immediately removed from their position, 1121 01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:09.960 but they should face more consequences, perhaps like. 1122 01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:15.199 Those are forms of crimes against humanity in the absence 1123 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:19.039 of what you're describing, depriving us of knowledge, depriving us 1124 01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:22.760 of who we are seeking questions as a whole, and 1125 01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:26.560 disseminating that information in the public. Now, why did it 1126 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:29.479 also look like this cliff? Why did they have to 1127 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.520 look at it from such a glance from far away 1128 01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:36.159 at an angle during arobraking, Because there's an issue here 1129 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.520 the shape. It's the shape of the face itself that 1130 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:43.199 gives it away. Why didn't they couldn't they just go 1131 01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:46.640 over it directly and show us how much crap it 1132 01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:49.600 looks like? Because it still looks like a face even 1133 01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:52.720 at this position and what I see, I could still 1134 01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:55.319 see a mouth, I see an eye, I see a forehead, 1135 01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:58.840 I see a chim that just looks retarded by because 1136 01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.760 it's not a slant. You know, they don't tell you that. 1137 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.760 They wanted you to believe this is how it is 1138 01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:07.399 looking down. Obviously there was an uproar, all right. So 1139 01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:13.399 there's that. Now there's the there's the what theyugh rectified 1140 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.199 image of the same image. 1141 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:20.239 I still think that's been manipulated too much. I don't see. 1142 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:25.760 Well, it's what to decide, and so it's what to decide. 1143 01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:27.520 Think of your face. If you want to look on 1144 01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.800 to the side, people might see a part of your cheek. 1145 01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:33.279 For the other side, depending on the angle you're at. 1146 01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:37.039 You know what I mean. It was it's therefore it's 1147 01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.319 a shape issue. It's not of just a detail issue. 1148 01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:42.680 It's a shape issue. They were trying to hide that 1149 01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:48.159 shape and ocfuscated it by making it look ridiculous. It 1150 01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:50.520 was even worse than this cliff because you had the 1151 01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:53.520 scan lines running through it. When they released it, it 1152 01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:58.680 was even more what's that word contrasted? The white was cut. 1153 01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:01.960 Where you see whites, you can't see none of the details. 1154 01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:05.000 I mean, it was worse than this. I'm sparing your people, 1155 01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:10.319 you know, so, but this is much better version. Okay, 1156 01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:13.399 but it still looks off they you know, because of 1157 01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:16.199 the angle. They weren't wanting to really tell people. They 1158 01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:18.640 wanted you to well, they didn't want you to read. 1159 01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:20.720 But if you read it and follow the mission and 1160 01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:24.000 how that image was taken, you'd be like, oh, okay, 1161 01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:27.279 you know it was way to decide we need more data, 1162 01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:30.560 That's what we would say, right, Okay, so there you go. 1163 01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:34.840 We have speeches and it's not to be. It's not 1164 01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:38.399 to be. I processed this one from the raw data itself, 1165 01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.159 the Saint NASA's image of what they gave you. 1166 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:46.359 I takes out here. What year was this image taken? 1167 01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:51.319 Nineteen ninety eight apri it's still fairly old, okay, well, right, 1168 01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:55.960 but then this was the first image since nineteen seventy six. Yes, 1169 01:18:56.680 --> 01:19:00.800 and what the rectified version looks more like the seventy 1170 01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:05.119 six version than what we've see in here, right, I mean, 1171 01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:10.199 look how much more detail? Sorry, everyone, look how much 1172 01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.760 more detail there is? And again, the art scape follow 1173 01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.880 the details, the faith, all those little lines follow them 1174 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:21.119 all because that's not natural, that's art, that's moornate art. 1175 01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:24.079 And you could I know that because I literally traced 1176 01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:26.880 over it. It took me months and months to trace 1177 01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:29.720 over every nook and cranny of this and then when 1178 01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:32.960 I seen it to accept it, get beyond my own 1179 01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:37.000 paradigm shift of what I had to change even as 1180 01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:39.239 I was doing it. But once it all came in 1181 01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:42.399 the view, I said that whole thing is artificial, and 1182 01:19:42.680 --> 01:19:44.720 the art scape set it sits on. 1183 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:49.279 You can identify it as artificial. But I have to 1184 01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:50.960 just tell you that it's disappointing. 1185 01:19:52.199 --> 01:19:54.239 And I'm not saying that your. 1186 01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:56.640 Work isn't good. Gary, Your work is good. You're a 1187 01:19:56.640 --> 01:20:00.920 good imager, you're a good enhancer. But it's still compared 1188 01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.560 to the very first series. It's a disappointment because I 1189 01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:11.920 want to see, well, from the thirty five A seventy two. 1190 01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.039 Well, this is my resolution, you can pull more data 1191 01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:18.520 out of it. I'm just saying in the thirty five 1192 01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:21.920 A seventy two what you've seen back here already when 1193 01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:24.119 I showed, that's the most data you can really pull 1194 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:27.119 out of that at that resolution of that analog camera 1195 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:31.720 at that time. So that believe me, I know, but 1196 01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:36.199 it's all still worthy for comparative analysis, which is what 1197 01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:38.760 I had to do in order to really learn to face. 1198 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:40.560 It ain't going to come from one image. You got 1199 01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:44.159 to confirm things that you think, you see, things that 1200 01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:47.239 are there, and then make it make more sense by 1201 01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:50.039 continuing study it by the more data we get. 1202 01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:53.880 Let me ask you this, The European Space Agency took 1203 01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:59.840 independent images of that face that are much more color. 1204 01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:03.399 I think they use some kind of specialized camera, and 1205 01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:08.960 I think even those are better than this, the NASSA version. 1206 01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:12.079 See this is right now. You show me this right now, 1207 01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:15.119 I'm like, what's you're comparing them? It's like they're two 1208 01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:16.640 different images. 1209 01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:21.079 Ah now, well one is the seventy eight thirteen face 1210 01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:24.720 on the left. That's the Viking phase from the one 1211 01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:29.439 I showed you without casting that shadow. Now, doctor Carlotto 1212 01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:32.199 did this to show what I just described to you 1213 01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:35.079 all on how they took this image of the face 1214 01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:38.680 to begin with, because it's at a side angle view, 1215 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:42.760 and the better to describe that is by doctor Carlotto 1216 01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:46.159 shifting the view of the Viking phase so you could 1217 01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.439 better understand what I just described that they imaged it 1218 01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:52.319 out of view, you know what I mean, that's how 1219 01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:55.399 they took it. They weren't nowhere near overhead. They were 1220 01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:58.880 way over yonder looking at it. Hey, you know, let's 1221 01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:00.760 try to make this not look like a face and 1222 01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:06.399 how people were right over it. Crap, but anyway, but 1223 01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:10.920 at the Corlado put this best representation together, which is 1224 01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:21.159 really cool. Now this two years after this escapade, right, 1225 01:22:22.560 --> 01:22:30.800 two years after, three years after we finally get a 1226 01:22:31.399 --> 01:22:35.319 with them getting the image right above the face. You know, 1227 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:38.880 so this is what it is. 1228 01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:44.119 I still think one I think that that has still 1229 01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:50.640 been uh uh edited heavily edited by NASA. Number one. 1230 01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:55.439 Number two is in that first image the well, the 1231 01:22:56.680 --> 01:23:03.319 design of the eye is much deeper, much more clarified, 1232 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:08.279 the nose, the mouth. This is so heavily edited, it's ridiculous. 1233 01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:14.840 Well again from various points of view. It's what it 1234 01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:18.319 falls down to now is if it's the shape of 1235 01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.319 why they wanted to use the shape against us and 1236 01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:24.199 the declar side of face, why looking at an angle 1237 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:28.000 claiming it was above is in order to hide the 1238 01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:31.640 symbolic because it doesn't just have the horminid side. We're 1239 01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:33.399 gonna get into that and I'll show you that. But 1240 01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:36.960 that's jumping ahead. But this was what we got in 1241 01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:42.279 two thousand and one Space Odyssey. Everything symbolic. Now I 1242 01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:45.000 had the processes from the raw and I could and 1243 01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:49.239 I have processed it better. They give it out where 1244 01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:51.880 the details you see like where are white? You know, 1245 01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:55.680 it's like more contrasted as hard as it's softened. You 1246 01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:58.520 don't get the CDR escape around it too well. And 1247 01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:02.079 if you do, it's it's often it's like it's hard 1248 01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:03.800 to You got to study it. That's why I said, 1249 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.239 there's no way to really learn to face or not 1250 01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:09.520 to face unless you closely study it. You in comparative 1251 01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:14.279 analysis with multiple other images and uh, in order to 1252 01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:19.520 confirm that that seventy six face is this face now 1253 01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:22.800 the most that they have tried to do, Cliff, which 1254 01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:26.680 we're gonna show. I show that because the busting this 1255 01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:30.159 is a little bit better processing job. I just wanted 1256 01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:31.960 to show you the difference. 1257 01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:34.920 Is just ask you real quickly, Gary, when you're processing 1258 01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:44.720 the raw data, Ah, so you're you're you're clarifying, uh layers, 1259 01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:47.600 How talk about your process. 1260 01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:51.439 It's funny. It's funny to say that because as I'm 1261 01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:55.319 processing it I could swear I'm having the like you said, 1262 01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:57.680 or you brought up layers like I have to get 1263 01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:01.840 through something that just doesn't seem that natural that I 1264 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:04.239 should be able to see and bring out more easily. 1265 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:06.960 I have to dig down more, and I could still 1266 01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:08.960 do that to many of my images, and it still 1267 01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.199 needs that. But I've gotten through a lot of the 1268 01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:13.840 fluff to get to be able to see the tattoo 1269 01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:16.560 as it was, to show that, hey, this thing is 1270 01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:19.560 not natural, This isn't sand and dirt. I don't see 1271 01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:22.279 any erosion because it's all part of the art. There 1272 01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:24.680 might be a couple of little crumblies, but this thing 1273 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.199 is fairly in pressing in shape as well as the 1274 01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.880 art escape as sits on, despite craters here and there. 1275 01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:34.439 In fact, many craters are also. I questioned it it 1276 01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:36.800 could be craters at all, because they seem to be 1277 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:43.800 fused in the art scapes of or after the accident happened, 1278 01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:46.960 it was modified again to fit it into the artscapes, 1279 01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:50.359 which brings implications there too. Someone must have been there 1280 01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:52.680 to try to do a fix up. I don't know 1281 01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:55.520 that these are just questions at the top of my 1282 01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:57.520 head of notes I made I'm just. 1283 01:25:57.239 --> 01:26:00.880 Asking the question as a novice to this whole thing. 1284 01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:01.640 It's the eye. 1285 01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:06.560 Do you think that at some point they'll go, oh, well, 1286 01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:11.520 our camera wasn't really functioning well. And at some point 1287 01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:15.920 they'll show a true version of the face and say, ah, 1288 01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:17.479 now we had the right camera. 1289 01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:23.439 Well that we have that now with Marty's reconnaissance orbiter. 1290 01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:26.039 But even though they soar from a lot of things 1291 01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:27.880 and do a lot of things to where if you 1292 01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:29.319 don't know what you're looking at, it's going to be 1293 01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:31.640 harder to match up. I know what I'm looking at. 1294 01:26:31.720 --> 01:26:36.119 I matched up details. I see that face, and no 1295 01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:38.760 offense to any other researchers. They're limited on how they 1296 01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:41.600 know the face. They see the math, they see the science, 1297 01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:44.680 they see geometry. I see the art. As an artist, 1298 01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:47.720 I see the art, and I've had several tattoo artists. 1299 01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:49.800 I've helped them to see this too, and it flipped 1300 01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:55.239 them out. Now, the so, like the eye you mentioned, 1301 01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:58.960 the eye isn't this feature is not flat everyone. That's 1302 01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:01.359 what I'm trying to tell you. NASA sorphans is to 1303 01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:04.479 try to make it look as flat as possible. Therefore, 1304 01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:06.720 it's a shape issue. That's why they had to look 1305 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:10.399 at it at a s form slide angle. Despite the details, 1306 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:13.159 the relief, they'll try to off you skates some they 1307 01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:15.439 want to make try to make this look as flat 1308 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:19.880 as natural as possible, and yet it is not as contrere. 1309 01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:23.039 But uh, the data is out, at least the red data. 1310 01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:25.680 You can peer through that. But they know many aren't 1311 01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:27.439 going to do that. Many don't know how to do that, 1312 01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:30.840 and they make it nearly impossible for anyone to even trying. 1313 01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:34.720 And you know, but I did. You know I did, 1314 01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:35.520 And whether I'm. 1315 01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:38.720 Purse or blessing, if they if they're using photoshop and 1316 01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:43.520 they're photo details, that's a little bit better. If they're 1317 01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:44.479 photo shopping out. 1318 01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:47.119 Now you see what I'm saying in glyv you just 1319 01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:50.119 said that's a little better. Now, this is even better 1320 01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:52.640 what I did here than what they have given out 1321 01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:55.640 for sure. But I'm just going through like different processes 1322 01:27:56.039 --> 01:28:00.560 of processing it. That's like the show for detail stages 1323 01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.920 right as an example of what is seen. I make 1324 01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:06.319 sure the air force is clean. I could bring out more. 1325 01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:08.880 When I'm at that point, I believe I could, And 1326 01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:11.319 I go to the next step, which is this to 1327 01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:14.600 bring out more right, and then I go to the 1328 01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:18.039 next step, bring out even more and like you just said, 1329 01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:20.399 that's a little better. It's the same image, but you 1330 01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:24.640 just said this is a little better. Now. So now 1331 01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:29.720 these different examples, you get to see the things that 1332 01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:32.239 NASA is really trying to hide, because why am I 1333 01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:36.199 doing this? Why is it me that is doing this 1334 01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:39.680 the show everyone else they should give me the damn job, 1335 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:44.600 but they won't. I'm a feeler, you know, But think 1336 01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:47.199 about it. You bring up very good points and it's 1337 01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:51.039 very important. That's why over the years, remember all these 1338 01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.760 images we have now with a face Cliff and everyone 1339 01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:57.079 trip trip a year or two or three or four 1340 01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:00.800 goes why trip drip drip drip. You know, now the 1341 01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:03.640 drinds are starting to happen more so. But it's like, 1342 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:08.079 that's why it took me twenty years, since two thousand 1343 01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:11.079 and one, they've released this, since ninety eight when it 1344 01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:14.359 first started for me now to be able to come 1345 01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:15.960 up with the idea because I don't see no one 1346 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:19.800 else doing it. To compile this book together, utilizing all 1347 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:22.720 the images of the face and the various different views 1348 01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:26.800 and the show what we have now of the face 1349 01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.880 it's basically a compendium of the continued research into the 1350 01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:34.600 face at a different approach, not like the scientifics of Hoagland, 1351 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:37.479 Porlado and all that. They again, they only had a 1352 01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:41.000 minimal amount of imagery. Think about if they started working 1353 01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:43.920 with all the modern imagery like I do in this 1354 01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:47.279 book now to go by to show this is not 1355 01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:50.840 closed at all. Now, so, like you said, that's two 1356 01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:53.720 thousand and one. That's a little better. Now here's a 1357 01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:54.840 Mars odisy view. 1358 01:29:55.399 --> 01:29:58.840 Oh my god, now this is nice. See this has 1359 01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:00.319 a really well defined. 1360 01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:05.079 Yes, and it helps you can tell the shape to 1361 01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:09.720 it because of the shadow. There's death. There's death to it. 1362 01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:11.880 This thing is not flat at all. 1363 01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:16.359 Okay, I'm sorry. Who shot? Is this a European space agency? 1364 01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:20.479 No? This one, this one is of the resolution max 1365 01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:24.800 resolution of the type of quality resolution of Mars express 1366 01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:28.199 Mars expresses camera. Well, we'll get into that in a minute. 1367 01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:32.960 Has stereo stereo camera, not just one lens. It has 1368 01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:36.079 a stereo camera zooming down and I'll tell you something. 1369 01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:38.279 So here's the question I have for you, is the 1370 01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:42.359 imager do you think this is? I think it's been manipulated, 1371 01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:44.680 but not as badly as NASA. 1372 01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:47.880 Yeah, well this is this is NASA's image. This is 1373 01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:48.800 from More's honesty. 1374 01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:52.279 But my question to you is based on our early 1375 01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:57.920 image that they took from that uh Viking image, that 1376 01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:01.640 Viking photo, how much manipulation you think this is? I 1377 01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.399 think this has had probably i'd say sixty to seventy percent, 1378 01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:11.439 but they've left a lot of the original uh rendering, 1379 01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:16.359 carving in text, especially with that eye, that eye giveaway. 1380 01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:19.600 Now let me let me make this point too. This 1381 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.279 image you see here, NASA did not release it like 1382 01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:26.159 looking like this. They release it to where basically the 1383 01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:30.920 whole hominid side of the face is practically over contrasted. 1384 01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:33.680 I bring out the details even though this is the 1385 01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:36.199 best mors odyssey of the face we got. That's why 1386 01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.399 it and you're gonna see where I go with it, 1387 01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:43.600 and that what I compare it to and with excuse me, 1388 01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:47.600 but notice Cliff why I also want to focus. Remember 1389 01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:51.800 I said, no other image imagers taking a picture of 1390 01:31:51.800 --> 01:31:55.439 the face casting a shadow, except mores expressed and a 1391 01:31:55.560 --> 01:31:59.920 much lower resolution, smaller looking we More's odysty took a 1392 01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:03.119 great image with the shadow just starting to come off. 1393 01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:07.000 See got there at the corner. The shadow is just 1394 01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:10.000 starting to come off. And guess what I did a 1395 01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:12.359 shape from shading up. Oh I SHOs show you that, 1396 01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:17.439 damn it. But anyway, uh maybe but anyway, or I 1397 01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:21.680 might make a video of it, but either way showing 1398 01:32:21.720 --> 01:32:24.439 that it has contours. You just said that like you're 1399 01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:28.439 seeing details that other Moras Odyssey images were not really 1400 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:31.640 showing you. But also at the same time, this isn't 1401 01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:34.159 showing some of the details of some of even other 1402 01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:38.680 these Moras Odyssey images. If because the tricks a light 1403 01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:43.399 and shadow instead of negative way, it's a positive way 1404 01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:47.079 because this face was sculpted using the mastery of tricks 1405 01:32:47.079 --> 01:32:49.359 and light and shadow and of the sun, whether it's 1406 01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:52.760 position of day and the sky, a position of season, 1407 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:58.520 position of epoch forrobably now but uh, it's really incredible. 1408 01:32:59.479 --> 01:33:02.720 The detail shows. I knew you would focus on the eye, 1409 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:05.920 but not only are I notice the mouth. No matter 1410 01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.800 what image they give us, they always want us knowing 1411 01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:13.000 that people always just focus on the eye and what 1412 01:33:13.239 --> 01:33:16.720 the mouth. You can even whether you contrast the most, 1413 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:19.720 you can't not get rid of the eye or the mouth. 1414 01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:23.960 So that's why they obviouscate it, which means what. This 1415 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:27.039 thing is not flat, That mouth is open, and it's 1416 01:33:27.079 --> 01:33:32.840 a beautifully sculpted head though, I'll tell you that. I 1417 01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:36.960 that's genius to show the lid. It's a master of art. 1418 01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:40.239 Yeah, I mean I can tell that. And the thing 1419 01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:43.640 that's so amazing is that the sheer scale of this 1420 01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:48.800 thing miles and miles of length. That eye is probably 1421 01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:52.560 you know, who knows a quarter of a mile long by. 1422 01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:56.720 Well, from the top, from the top to the bottom 1423 01:33:56.920 --> 01:33:59.239 of the chin is one and a half miles. I 1424 01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:05.119 mean from left to right it's one mile high. Is bigger, 1425 01:34:05.279 --> 01:34:07.399 is much bigger than a jet. Let's put that way. 1426 01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:11.399 A jet is pretty small when and I have an 1427 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:15.319 Apple picture in the book comparison how a seven fifty 1428 01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:18.439 seven jet would look flying over the eye. This thing 1429 01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:22.039 is huge. So you're right, you know it was meant 1430 01:34:22.079 --> 01:34:25.000 to be seen. I think that's the point you're trying, 1431 01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:29.000 really trying to make because it's so pronounced. Now here's 1432 01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:34.199 Moore's express. Now it's basically the same type of resolution, 1433 01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:38.840 but there is a stereo camera. But here's one difference. 1434 01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:42.439 Look at all those details. Remember what I said about 1435 01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:47.479 seeing the rscapes. Look at this, Look at these details. 1436 01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:53.920 Look at that. What's NASA's camera missing. I mean I 1437 01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:56.479 could see the points. I could see that it's there 1438 01:34:56.720 --> 01:34:59.399 in EU since especially when you learn the service, learn 1439 01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:01.640 how to see it, learn what you're looking at, and 1440 01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:05.000 then when you compare it to moors express, it brings 1441 01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:10.079 it out more moresbout the tattoo. That's so express brings 1442 01:35:10.079 --> 01:35:13.039 out the tattoo. And ess what do you see? What 1443 01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:15.359 do you think of the same as compared to honysty. 1444 01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:18.279 I'm telling you it's low res and it's an embarrassment. 1445 01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:22.359 I can't and you can't still see a face. 1446 01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:24.359 I can see the eye of the part of the mouth, 1447 01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:27.800 but it's it's like, why are they giving us imagery 1448 01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:31.159 that is childish? 1449 01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:33.800 I guess it's the level of tech they give us. 1450 01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:37.119 They're not giving us their fullest resis and and everything. 1451 01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:39.359 We need. Light er on these these will bring out 1452 01:35:39.359 --> 01:35:45.159 the tattoos all the more. But in order for me, 1453 01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:46.000 this is. 1454 01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:49.079 How it looks, in order for me to pull out 1455 01:35:49.159 --> 01:35:55.000 the tattoo sore. So that's the image you started with, 1456 01:35:55.079 --> 01:35:58.439 Pury What just the image you started with? 1457 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:04.039 No the nineteen ninety eight pat box image In nineteen 1458 01:36:04.119 --> 01:36:05.560 ninety eight. No, no, no, no, no. 1459 01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:11.960 The image before this, which is Mar's honesty. Is this 1460 01:36:12.039 --> 01:36:14.239 the final image or is this cleaned up? 1461 01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.079 No? This is processed from the raw that I do myself. 1462 01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:21.039 When you do the raw of the odysseys, they come 1463 01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:24.880 in strips. You have to you have to process these 1464 01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:27.560 strip and then stiff the strips together to make an 1465 01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:28.720 amiss an image. 1466 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:34.720 It's still missing a lot of data. It's like, well, 1467 01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:37.960 you published it, but it's missing a lot they took 1468 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:39.399 out and I can. 1469 01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:41.359 Still bring out. I can still bring out more of 1470 01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:44.359 the relief, but I see it faintly. Once I see 1471 01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:46.720 it faintly, and I see it in my opinion, it's clean. 1472 01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:50.399 Until I get another version of something else. I can 1473 01:36:50.479 --> 01:36:53.119 always go back to this. And as I learned more 1474 01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:55.039 how to get through these levels, I had to go 1475 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:57.159 through this just for you to see the detail you 1476 01:36:57.199 --> 01:37:01.199 have here, which is the details we see here. Yeah, 1477 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:05.079 you know again, it would look even better than this 1478 01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:08.680 one now, the beauty of it, they're almost a match. 1479 01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:12.359 And resolution and everything and position of which of what, 1480 01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:15.680 uh of where the camera took it, but a different 1481 01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:19.079 time of day. Now here's what I get when I 1482 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:22.840 merged the two together. This is what you get when 1483 01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:30.600 I merged the Mars honesty, this one with this one, 1484 01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:37.039 we get this one obviously bringing them both together. What 1485 01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:38.520 is your opinion, Cliff. 1486 01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:42.239 Much better this is on the back, Yeah, you do. 1487 01:37:43.359 --> 01:37:48.960 This has more dimension, more depth this one has, and. 1488 01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:52.319 Each image being different times in the day, they both 1489 01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:56.600 add to bring out the details better. So therefore this 1490 01:37:56.680 --> 01:38:00.479 is an unprecedented unreleased image from anyone though there cause 1491 01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:03.920 they both come from released images. But when you fuse 1492 01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:07.000 them together, make sure everything's matched up right, because you 1493 01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:09.119 don't want it to you know what I mean, everything 1494 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:13.239 size right, matched up. We get therefore it's like a 1495 01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:17.520 new image. But notice it's coming from me and not NASA. Yeah. 1496 01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:22.119 Why The interesting thing about this is that you've done 1497 01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:26.199 what you could with the data, but it was purpose 1498 01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:30.920 purposefully edited out in certain areas, so there's there's no detail, 1499 01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:33.479 Like the mouth is only the upper part of the lip. 1500 01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:36.600 There's a big, huge space where they want us to 1501 01:38:36.640 --> 01:38:39.600 believe that there was some damage or something. Likely they 1502 01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:40.359 just took it out. 1503 01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:42.960 They just it's it's all it's all art carved. There's 1504 01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:47.000 no damage. It's all art carves. And you know, think 1505 01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:49.119 giving me everyone of what you will. I know what 1506 01:38:49.159 --> 01:38:51.319 I'm talking about. I know the face. I'm an expert 1507 01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:53.720 on the face, so I it feel some people laugh 1508 01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:56.319 and yeah, yeah, I've been studying this for years and 1509 01:38:56.399 --> 01:38:59.239 as an artist, every feature that you're seeing is really 1510 01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:03.359 there the face. This is Artistlary Card. It's not no dunes, 1511 01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:07.199 no erosion. That's great, not even standing dirt. If anything, 1512 01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:11.840 this that image should have been your help bring out 1513 01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:14.399 that heavy metal. Yeah, very cool. 1514 01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:17.319 Okay, keep showing us more you get more evolution of this. 1515 01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:22.479 Oh indeed, all right, So now this is a Moores 1516 01:39:22.520 --> 01:39:28.880 Reconnaissance Orbiter context image. Now this is the image where 1517 01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:34.000 beautiful detail. It's lower resolution than More's Global Surveyor, but 1518 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:38.680 it's definitely higher resolution than Moore's Express and Moore's odysty. 1519 01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:42.159 And again, notice how when I fuse them, I only 1520 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:44.520 did it enough. I could have done a little better, 1521 01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:47.199 but I wanted to show what the little shadow coming 1522 01:39:47.239 --> 01:39:50.279 off from the bottom right. You see that? Yeah, So 1523 01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:53.000 that's that's why that's there, because in this you obviously 1524 01:39:53.039 --> 01:39:56.720 don't see it, but here you do. So that's why 1525 01:39:56.800 --> 01:40:00.359 it's important because you have details being seen here that 1526 01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:02.439 are not so easily seen in here. But when you 1527 01:40:02.560 --> 01:40:06.880 merge them, like you said, it changes the perspective and 1528 01:40:07.039 --> 01:40:11.399 it and it validates what each image actually has to show, 1529 01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:13.880 like when you say that look that could have been 1530 01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:16.960 distorted a fake. But when you match images and comparative 1531 01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:21.520 analysis and especially through overlaying and doing what needs to 1532 01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:25.199 be done to fuse it correctly, you bring out what 1533 01:40:25.319 --> 01:40:28.279 each image has the show. I mean, so you might 1534 01:40:28.319 --> 01:40:31.319 know the better term astronomers call is stacking, you know. 1535 01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:34.399 But this is more complex than just stacking an image, 1536 01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:36.720 you know, because you got to match up as much 1537 01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:40.079 detail as possible to bring out what each image shows. 1538 01:40:40.279 --> 01:40:43.239 To bring out the details that's really harder to see. 1539 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:45.760 So we have a cheat. To me, I call it 1540 01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:48.319 a cheat in a loophole because now I how to 1541 01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:52.119 hone in on the details to reveal them. 1542 01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:54.680 We're going to take a short commercial break to allow 1543 01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:58.800 our sponsors to identify themselves and will return shortly with 1544 01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:04.920 my guess Today. Image specialist Gary Lazier discussing his latest book, 1545 01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:55.520 The Face on Mars, will be right back. I Guess 1546 01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:58.560 Today is Gary. This year he is at Mars Image Specialist, 1547 01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:03.039 also known as the Mars Revealer. You can see him 1548 01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:07.439 on his website Mars revealer dot com, and he has 1549 01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:14.760 a podcast, Mars Revealer. I think it's funny because as 1550 01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:17.600 you get better at this, Gary, I think at some 1551 01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:20.319 point you're gonna show the real original face. You're gonna 1552 01:42:20.319 --> 01:42:21.399 get a knock on your door. 1553 01:42:23.159 --> 01:42:25.880 Well, extrange things have happened already, but I'm not gonna 1554 01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:28.479 get into it. A little crazy, you know, your people 1555 01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:32.199 think I'm more nuts than I him. Now, so this 1556 01:42:32.279 --> 01:42:36.760 is again, now this was taken this particular image Mars 1557 01:42:36.920 --> 01:42:41.439 Mars reconnaissance or over of context image we have, Cliff. Now, 1558 01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:45.880 at this time we have about fifteen the side fifteen 1559 01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:49.960 or seventeen context image use of the face from various 1560 01:42:50.359 --> 01:42:55.000 positions you know, natter which means directly overhead off, nator 1561 01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:58.920 means you know, not overhead, so that could be anywhere, 1562 01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:04.479 but you know, and different lighting conditions. So this this 1563 01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:08.680 particular one who was released in twenty twelve. And now 1564 01:43:08.760 --> 01:43:15.640 this is where photoclinometry, which is what doctor Mercolado uses 1565 01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:19.439 and knows of and made the shape from shading program. 1566 01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:25.000 That's a form of photoclinometry. This image out of all 1567 01:43:25.079 --> 01:43:27.760 the other ones we have except maybe two, which comes 1568 01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:31.560 to where I call the Goldilocks zone is the only 1569 01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:35.199 image that gives us a true rendering of the accurate 1570 01:43:35.279 --> 01:43:39.640 shape of the face. To do correct shape from shading 1571 01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:45.760 with now, because the thing with shape from shading, it's 1572 01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:48.039 all on light position. You have to have it and 1573 01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:51.520 what I call the Goldielock zone light position, even though 1574 01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:55.680 if it's overhead the sun acts as that Goldilocks position 1575 01:43:55.800 --> 01:43:58.960 to where you can zoom in on an image and 1576 01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:01.680 you can see christ detail looks great, But if you 1577 01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:04.760 run it through shape from shading, it was more ridiculous 1578 01:44:04.760 --> 01:44:08.760 than Nasaso's why because it's not at the right Goldilocks 1579 01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:11.880 zone spart. You need the right zone area to get 1580 01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:14.840 an accurate rendering of anything. The Pyramids of Geeza, the 1581 01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:18.720 Eiffel Tower, cliftunning looking up at the sky as Google 1582 01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:20.760 camera looks down on him. What are you doing near 1583 01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:23.760 that pyramids on? You know what I'm saying. So this 1584 01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:30.319 is a great detailed image, Nator, pretty much, Nator. Now 1585 01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:35.439 notice both eyes pulding us the other eye, yeah, the 1586 01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:40.319 other side and face it has a pupil, I mean, 1587 01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:44.840 and notice this eye as a pupil. You know that 1588 01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:48.000 this was centered because it's not just solely one face. 1589 01:44:48.880 --> 01:44:53.600 You mentioned that earlier about symbology, Well, that's the greatest 1590 01:44:53.640 --> 01:44:57.399 techno center. It's a symbol. This geometric designing, in this 1591 01:44:57.800 --> 01:45:01.560 artistic designing, there's weapresent pations of things we're familiar with 1592 01:45:01.640 --> 01:45:04.840 hominids and what Well, we're gonna look at that soon 1593 01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:08.119 and get the answer to that. So let's go on. 1594 01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:12.279 In two thousand and one, with the two thousand and 1595 01:45:12.319 --> 01:45:18.079 one release, NASA made it. They yeah, using a hit 1596 01:45:18.079 --> 01:45:21.960 piece release in two thousand and seven, they used the 1597 01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:24.399 two thousand and one image to make a hit piece 1598 01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:27.800 once and for all, to put the case of the 1599 01:45:27.880 --> 01:45:33.039 face to bed. They killed it. They wanted to myrderalize it, 1600 01:45:33.720 --> 01:45:38.359 and they it was no longer ever officially since two 1601 01:45:38.399 --> 01:45:40.880 thousand and seven. Did you know this, Cliff and others? 1602 01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:45.720 It was never officially anymore called officially the Face of Mars. 1603 01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:51.760 It ended in this hit piece from two thousand and seven, okay, 1604 01:45:51.800 --> 01:45:54.520 which they used the full face image of two thousand 1605 01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:59.000 and one as its odyssey to bring that deception to us. 1606 01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:02.960 Why do I say deceven? Okay, here's two thousand and seven. 1607 01:46:03.079 --> 01:46:06.079 It gives us something to where people looked at it 1608 01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:10.279 not a word. Crickets, you said, you gotta be kidding me. 1609 01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:14.880 This show's not just offfu scation, a deliberate withholding of 1610 01:46:15.039 --> 01:46:18.720 image data. Because remember, if this is the two thousand 1611 01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:21.439 and one full face image, how did they release it 1612 01:46:21.479 --> 01:46:23.399 to us? Did it look like this? In two thousand 1613 01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:25.520 and one we looked at that image? Did you see 1614 01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:30.479 it looking like this? Cliff? No, you see it black 1615 01:46:30.520 --> 01:46:35.760 and white? Yeah, where'd the color image come from? It 1616 01:46:35.880 --> 01:46:39.359 came out from Graybeard, Mike Maddlon's draw to use it 1617 01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:42.119 as a hit piece and to tease us, which I'm 1618 01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:45.079 going to do a data quality act and a foyer. 1619 01:46:46.319 --> 01:46:49.560 He never released this image in nineteen, I mean in 1620 01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:52.960 two thousand and one with the black and white version. 1621 01:46:53.439 --> 01:46:53.720 He did. 1622 01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:57.439 What camera are they using on this? 1623 01:46:57.439 --> 01:47:02.840 This was the Morsel orbiter camera Aboards Global surveyor higher 1624 01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:08.319 resolution than that Mars Reconnaissance litbit or context camera, but 1625 01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:11.880 less resolution obviously than the high rise, so it's in 1626 01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:20.359 between the context and the high rise. The resolution came well, ah, again, affuscation. 1627 01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:25.159 They do it on purpose. Even with this, No one, Cliff, 1628 01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:28.880 everyone else, Even though the Mores researchers proved me wrong. 1629 01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:32.880 No other image This image has never been released by 1630 01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:36.920 Mike Malon Mailan Space Science Systems until two thousand and seven, 1631 01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:41.439 would a hit piece along with Moore's Express images, More's 1632 01:47:41.479 --> 01:47:44.600 Express not saying nothing, then also putting out big release 1633 01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:49.159 of their site of their More's Express image, Like we 1634 01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:54.319 just looked at in this hit piece where NASA revealed 1635 01:47:54.399 --> 01:47:57.680 this color image and no one said anything about it, 1636 01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:03.880 you know what they're all focused on instead? What oh, 1637 01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:07.079 before we get there and there's a point he said, look, look, 1638 01:48:07.119 --> 01:48:09.960 what'd you say that it looks too What would you say, Well, 1639 01:48:10.039 --> 01:48:15.199 we're exposed there you go, bring out the collar, bring 1640 01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:17.840 out the detail better. It makes more sense, all right, 1641 01:48:17.880 --> 01:48:21.760 But balloom does it. They can't have us seeing the 1642 01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:24.800 face like this? What was just a mountain? It's a massive, 1643 01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:28.199 it's a hill. It's a even a new a new 1644 01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:32.600 a new human deficiency. That's hard fault. It's a mimotolith. 1645 01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:36.800 They don't know what to call this thing. But yet 1646 01:48:37.079 --> 01:48:40.880 the colors, how do you explain the colors for a hill, 1647 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:43.520 a mountain, a massive or anything else. Look at you 1648 01:48:43.640 --> 01:48:47.880 ornate beauty. It looks metallic. It looks metallic. And if 1649 01:48:47.880 --> 01:48:50.680 it's metallic, now we know how this thing could survive 1650 01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:53.760 from a round for maybe a few hundred million years. 1651 01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:56.439 Yeah, you know, this is the first image I've seen 1652 01:48:56.479 --> 01:48:59.359 that shows it looks like he's wearing a space helmet 1653 01:48:59.439 --> 01:49:04.680 or some kind because that shade up and then bring 1654 01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:07.840 that out for you. That forehead line that goes across 1655 01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:10.760 from one side or the other is so straight. It's 1656 01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:13.560 a it's a design element. 1657 01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:18.520 It's uncanny, it's it's that's why you know. It falls 1658 01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:20.680 back to the shape because the features that we're seeing 1659 01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:23.359 is all part of surface relief. We know, this thing's 1660 01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:25.520 fifteen hundred foot high, you said at the beginning of 1661 01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:29.520 the show, as a giant sculpture. There's no greater techno 1662 01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:32.279 signature anywhere in the Solar system that at least they've 1663 01:49:32.319 --> 01:49:35.199 allowed us to see of which they so called discovered, 1664 01:49:35.960 --> 01:49:38.880 than this. And that's why they all steer away from it. 1665 01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:41.119 Why didn't they send them the rovers here? Think about 1666 01:49:41.159 --> 01:49:44.319 it now, you people know, think for yourselves, or pack 1667 01:49:44.359 --> 01:49:46.560 them and smoke them, let the hand of brainwash and 1668 01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:49.119 go off, and then you'll be like, holy crap, now 1669 01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:52.880 this is what everyone focused on. Cliff, I'll just do 1670 01:49:53.159 --> 01:49:58.119 that for that hit piece. According to them, a true shape, 1671 01:49:59.560 --> 01:50:02.159 a true three D shaping on the face, what it 1672 01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:06.000 really looks like, and it is ridiculous. People didn't want 1673 01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:08.359 to even want to notice the color. Again, I'm the 1674 01:50:08.399 --> 01:50:11.039 only one, the only researcher, not a whole one of 1675 01:50:11.159 --> 01:50:14.279 the whole team, and we were all connected, no one. 1676 01:50:14.520 --> 01:50:18.640 They're all focusing on that bump. Oh that bump. Well 1677 01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:21.439 there is a bump, but it's not where it is 1678 01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:25.039 and it's not what that represents this image. Remember they 1679 01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:27.199 used for a hit piece to put it to Bet 1680 01:50:27.640 --> 01:50:31.560 to kill the discussion officially ever again even being considered 1681 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:34.439 being considered or talked about as valid. They made it 1682 01:50:34.479 --> 01:50:37.239 as like a gravestone and the faces laying down in 1683 01:50:37.319 --> 01:50:40.520 his gray dead. They killed it and they would yet 1684 01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:42.920 teasing us. Here's some color data, but U sheep will 1685 01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:46.359 notice that you'll focus on the gravestone, which is the bump. 1686 01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:48.560 That's how I come to I know how they think. 1687 01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:51.520 But notice how soft and everything. But like you said, 1688 01:50:51.800 --> 01:50:55.119 it doesn't look what was that word again that you 1689 01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:58.039 use for the color image? It looks on their process 1690 01:50:58.199 --> 01:51:01.279 or whatever it was you said, it just doesn't look right. 1691 01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:04.239 Well here it is, and they but yet look in 1692 01:51:04.359 --> 01:51:07.880 this you can still see colors pinks, purples, you know, 1693 01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:10.319 but you're like, I got to bring it out more. 1694 01:51:10.439 --> 01:51:14.680 That's why what I had to do in this obviously, 1695 01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:17.920 are you saying that it's not easy to do. It's 1696 01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:18.840 not easy to do. 1697 01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:22.800 And Gary, are you saying that this is a metal 1698 01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:27.319 uh yes, sculpture or is it not earth? 1699 01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:32.039 It's metallic in my opinion because look at the colors, 1700 01:51:32.199 --> 01:51:35.239 and I don't know about you. Even though they're approximate 1701 01:51:35.279 --> 01:51:39.279 colors near near reality, what do I mean by that? Now? 1702 01:51:39.399 --> 01:51:41.840 When I did make an issue about the color data, 1703 01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:44.399 I've had other resarchers to say, oh, that's More's expressed 1704 01:51:44.399 --> 01:51:46.800 color data they put on it because More's a spec 1705 01:51:46.920 --> 01:51:50.000 release colored data of the face and their version of 1706 01:51:50.039 --> 01:51:52.800 the face. Also at the same time as it's his piece, 1707 01:51:52.960 --> 01:51:56.640 Nassa used it, not allowed, not allowed, yes, say to 1708 01:51:56.800 --> 01:51:59.039 say anything. They just put out their data. Let people 1709 01:51:59.079 --> 01:52:02.279 download it. There's ZIP and it was all in control 1710 01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:04.359 of Mike Malon and Nassa. Oh this pro is a 1711 01:52:04.399 --> 01:52:07.039 face is not a face. Look at it. Look at it. 1712 01:52:07.039 --> 01:52:09.920 There's a hill. But yet no one's mentioning her color. 1713 01:52:09.960 --> 01:52:12.359 And someone said it's MOR's express color. I said, no, 1714 01:52:12.439 --> 01:52:15.319 it's not because you can. First off, I know Mars 1715 01:52:15.319 --> 01:52:19.399 Global Surveyor and Moore's Express. Mars Express has red, red, blue, 1716 01:52:19.439 --> 01:52:25.239 green color filters for the camera. Mars Global Surveyor has CMYK. 1717 01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:30.399 What we're seeing here is from CMYK, not red green blue, 1718 01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:34.479 And in the CMYK image, you're I was able to 1719 01:52:34.720 --> 01:52:37.840 various other color images like We're gone, I'm chaos, other 1720 01:52:37.920 --> 01:52:40.920 areas to bring out the colors. Wow, it made it 1721 01:52:41.079 --> 01:52:45.039 such a life, such vivid, beautiful compared it was even 1722 01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:48.079 looking worse than what you see here at least. Yeah, 1723 01:52:48.079 --> 01:52:50.159 you can see some colors trying to come through, and 1724 01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:52.800 those images I worked on, but I knew there was 1725 01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:55.520 there was there because again I focus on relief, and 1726 01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:59.600 I always said that the colors would help reveal the tattoo. Now, 1727 01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:02.880 so this is what they gave out as part of 1728 01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:05.000 the hit piece. It's not a face. Now they say 1729 01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:07.279 that's the true shape, and many people ever since then 1730 01:53:07.640 --> 01:53:10.159 believe that is the true shape because why would not. 1731 01:53:10.479 --> 01:53:13.720 Why look, there's a shape of the first Okay, is 1732 01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:17.800 it really all right? Well, here's my more better color 1733 01:53:17.880 --> 01:53:20.920 process view of it. You know, still looks ridiculous, but 1734 01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:24.079 it looks moreful and making sense. And this does at. 1735 01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:28.319 Least what is there another image of this on another ah, 1736 01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:30.239 check this out? 1737 01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:33.319 So this is what they release. So now what this 1738 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:38.720 iTunes too? On that same hit piece release, they put 1739 01:53:38.760 --> 01:53:43.960 out a video, just an automation video, no sound, using 1740 01:53:44.039 --> 01:53:48.039 that full on face image in color as you can 1741 01:53:48.079 --> 01:53:50.960 see here as title Saydonia mensa the face of Mars 1742 01:53:51.159 --> 01:53:54.239 two thousand and six Essa at all given and mailis 1743 01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:57.560 face Sience systems. Yeah, two thousand and six. Well that's 1744 01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:01.319 when they're more Express image of the face was taken, 1745 01:54:01.680 --> 01:54:04.000 but they saved it to use out of the public 1746 01:54:04.079 --> 01:54:07.199 hit piece because they had to work together with NASA 1747 01:54:07.359 --> 01:54:10.399 dominant and control. That's why I believe More's Express had 1748 01:54:10.439 --> 01:54:13.359 to be lower resolution too, because without NASA and the 1749 01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:16.239 US they wouldn't have had a successful mission. So they 1750 01:54:16.239 --> 01:54:18.680 had a total line. So they were allowed to put 1751 01:54:18.720 --> 01:54:21.520 that off and not say nothing. But NASA has the dominant. 1752 01:54:21.560 --> 01:54:25.119 Say so this was two thousand was from a video, 1753 01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:30.760 So there you go. Boom boom boom. Now that's what 1754 01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:34.119 they gave a show comparison. Now let's look at the 1755 01:54:34.239 --> 01:54:37.680 true shape of the face. What they're off you, skating 1756 01:54:37.720 --> 01:54:40.000 from you all. And what it took me to reveal 1757 01:54:40.199 --> 01:54:45.119 using real science, using photoclinometry, and what they were using 1758 01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:48.520 was mola crap pola. And think of it as like 1759 01:54:48.560 --> 01:54:53.520 a wire frame image, right like like they used it 1760 01:54:53.479 --> 01:54:56.920 in my computer games not long ago, splash screens. They 1761 01:54:56.960 --> 01:54:59.199 make the wire frame and splash the image on it. 1762 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:03.039 Never mind the details, never mind the relief, but it 1763 01:55:03.039 --> 01:55:05.119 all becomes part of the wire frame that you have 1764 01:55:05.239 --> 01:55:07.720 set up for it. Right, So you can morph that 1765 01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:09.880 thing to look like a pyramid. You can make it 1766 01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:12.079 look flat, you can make it look like a crater. 1767 01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:16.079 You put that data on that model, that's gonna be 1768 01:55:16.199 --> 01:55:19.560 the shape of the true shape. Are you following me 1769 01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:20.760 so far? Yeah? 1770 01:55:20.840 --> 01:55:23.920 I want to see something a different angle of this. 1771 01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:29.039 Are you gonna right now? All right? So here's a better, 1772 01:55:29.319 --> 01:55:33.239 you know, higher resolution, correct size view of what they 1773 01:55:33.279 --> 01:55:37.039 gave out that day, And make sure appreche Now why 1774 01:55:37.039 --> 01:55:42.640 do I say metal? Look here clip, Look between those 1775 01:55:42.680 --> 01:55:46.279 colors on the sides of the face. Clearly that looks 1776 01:55:46.319 --> 01:55:49.159 like silvers. Look at the beautiful green one eye, Look 1777 01:55:49.199 --> 01:55:50.680 at the goals. 1778 01:55:51.199 --> 01:55:54.760 This is hard to conceive of, though, because the thing 1779 01:55:54.840 --> 01:55:57.840 as you say it is, that would be an unheard 1780 01:55:57.880 --> 01:56:02.640 of amount of of material. Yeah, I mean that's ridiculous. 1781 01:56:02.800 --> 01:56:06.159 Look at the mouth. As ridiculous as that looks. It 1782 01:56:06.359 --> 01:56:09.720 looks red and pink like a whip wood. I said, 1783 01:56:09.720 --> 01:56:12.560 you can't pick the shit up. Everybody look at it. 1784 01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:15.880 I was like, okay, very interesting. At least I'm doing 1785 01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:18.840 my research. In my mind, I know this image is crap. 1786 01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:21.119 I couldn't prove it then, but I knew it because 1787 01:56:21.159 --> 01:56:23.279 I know the details of the face, and I had 1788 01:56:23.279 --> 01:56:26.159 a conception already by the details of the face in 1789 01:56:26.239 --> 01:56:30.039 my mind what the three D shape would potentially look like. 1790 01:56:30.119 --> 01:56:35.199 Does that make sense now here? It is from the video. Well, 1791 01:56:35.199 --> 01:56:37.640 I'm gonna show as it turns around in the video. 1792 01:56:37.720 --> 01:56:40.399 I'm gonna just show you segments now, Cliff. When you 1793 01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:44.479 see the colorized face up there, do you also see 1794 01:56:44.479 --> 01:56:47.359 the where it says audio video participants chat. Do you 1795 01:56:47.399 --> 01:56:48.760 see that? Or no? 1796 01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:49.000 No? 1797 01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:52.159 All right, good. I'm only seeing that because that's why 1798 01:56:52.199 --> 01:56:54.319 I'm moving the image around just in case if you 1799 01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:55.000 don't see. 1800 01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:57.479 It, I'm lost on this. Where's the eyes? 1801 01:56:59.079 --> 01:57:03.800 The eye is Look to the left where that purple 1802 01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:08.840 dark corner bends. In look at the eye. You can 1803 01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:09.960 see the pupil on top of. 1804 01:57:09.960 --> 01:57:12.720 The eye is like, uh oh, I see it, okay, 1805 01:57:13.039 --> 01:57:15.479 right there it is, so it's kind of weird. 1806 01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:18.359 Note how flat it looks. But notice the big bump 1807 01:57:18.399 --> 01:57:20.520 on the head on the corner of the head. Again, 1808 01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:25.119 there is a bump, but that's not the bump and 1809 01:57:25.159 --> 01:57:28.479 it's not represented as what it really is supposed to 1810 01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:30.800 be in reality as that face structure. 1811 01:57:30.880 --> 01:57:33.680 I think that there there must have been some geological 1812 01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:37.600 calamities that collapsed part of this face. 1813 01:57:38.119 --> 01:57:42.199 There you go collapse, there's no collapse. There was a collapse, 1814 01:57:42.239 --> 01:57:44.880 you would have a disruption in the flow of the art. 1815 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:47.960 So you're saying that these are the tattoo. 1816 01:57:48.279 --> 01:57:51.000 Like let's say you got a tattoo cliff take a 1817 01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:54.439 knife or some chick grabs or a cap scratches you. 1818 01:57:54.439 --> 01:57:59.000 You know, then you could tell the distorted collapse of 1819 01:57:59.159 --> 01:58:02.119 the skiff where it cuts away from the picture. But 1820 01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:06.199 when if it was collapse, that's what things we would see. 1821 01:58:06.199 --> 01:58:09.159 We would see chaos, breakage of the art. But there's 1822 01:58:09.159 --> 01:58:10.279 no breakage of the art. 1823 01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:14.359 Then there's only one conclusion, is not real this has 1824 01:58:14.399 --> 01:58:15.840 been photo edited. 1825 01:58:16.800 --> 01:58:20.119 That this is the This is from the video. They 1826 01:58:20.279 --> 01:58:22.920 edited it. They edited it well. That this is a 1827 01:58:23.039 --> 01:58:25.439 video of what they wanted us the same release day 1828 01:58:25.880 --> 01:58:28.159 and the hippiece of two thousand and seven, they gave 1829 01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:31.439 this little video on that release page, which is what 1830 01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:34.119 Deza scenes from. All I did is bring out the 1831 01:58:34.159 --> 01:58:36.760 color more. But it looked like this, you know, it 1832 01:58:36.800 --> 01:58:39.079 looks like what you see on top spinning around. I 1833 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:41.640 just did this so it'll make it look at least 1834 01:58:41.680 --> 01:58:44.279 a little better. You can focus on the details more, 1835 01:58:44.479 --> 01:58:49.159 and it just makes the ridiculousness stand out even more. Now, Wow, 1836 01:58:49.199 --> 01:58:53.159 when you considered a true shape, look at the difference 1837 01:58:54.520 --> 01:58:59.000 on the very What a big difference The work below 1838 01:58:59.119 --> 01:59:04.000 is you the work below, Well, it's from the processed 1839 01:59:04.039 --> 01:59:11.439 image from this Yeah, the only image they ever gave 1840 01:59:11.520 --> 01:59:13.399 us where we could get an accurate shape of the 1841 01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:14.800 face or shape from shading. 1842 01:59:16.279 --> 01:59:17.800 Okay, and that was. 1843 01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:20.760 Given in twenty twelve. No one noticed it, not even 1844 01:59:20.760 --> 01:59:23.359 Hobland boy. Maybe they threw it out there. Let's see 1845 01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:25.920 how deep he goes down the rabbit hole with twenty 1846 01:59:25.960 --> 01:59:29.039 twelve and NASA conspiracy, they gave us this image. I 1847 01:59:29.079 --> 01:59:32.159 didn't notice until years later, but it was pretty funny, 1848 01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:34.399 you know, I had it all this time, but it 1849 01:59:34.520 --> 01:59:38.079 still until I started in studying photo klonometry and working 1850 01:59:38.119 --> 01:59:41.720 with shape from shading, shape from shadow, I was able 1851 01:59:41.720 --> 01:59:46.279 to show science by a scientific program proven by who 1852 01:59:46.720 --> 01:59:51.199 what better source in doctor Mark Carlatto. Right, So there 1853 01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:55.119 you go, this is Carlino's program, and with the right image, 1854 01:59:55.119 --> 01:59:57.479 the right position, we're able to get a correct view. 1855 01:59:57.880 --> 02:00:02.520 Why at NASA doing that with this? They're deliberately obvious 1856 02:00:02.520 --> 02:00:05.239 skating to change the shape. Remember why look at it 1857 02:00:05.279 --> 02:00:08.000 from one distance? Has to be because it a shape 1858 02:00:08.159 --> 02:00:10.920 they don't want us seeing the face Legler. Even from 1859 02:00:10.960 --> 02:00:13.159 the slide, people might say they see a mountain, but 1860 02:00:13.199 --> 02:00:14.720 then they look at it, they're like, you know what 1861 02:00:15.319 --> 02:00:18.960 that looks like? The sorry profoil of a freaky face. Yeah, 1862 02:00:19.399 --> 02:00:22.600 and that's what it is. And that's how it really looks. 1863 02:00:23.239 --> 02:00:25.560 It does not look at all what they tried to 1864 02:00:25.560 --> 02:00:28.079 pull on us in two thousand and seven. So when 1865 02:00:28.199 --> 02:00:32.359 Cliff you mentioned earlier about putting someone in handcuffs, get 1866 02:00:32.399 --> 02:00:35.840 this guy who manipulated this shape and it has real 1867 02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:39.640 in two thousand and seven, it's what we should be seeing. 1868 02:00:40.039 --> 02:00:42.920 This is what NASA is really seeing. Oh my God, 1869 02:00:42.960 --> 02:00:46.920 it is scary. It's too scary. It's too scary. This 1870 02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:49.640 looks more comfortable. It leaves it to the mind. Well 1871 02:00:49.720 --> 02:00:52.119 since theys, well, it don't look like a face like that, 1872 02:00:52.319 --> 02:00:55.039 you know, I mean above maybe I can see somebody 1873 02:00:55.039 --> 02:00:57.399 like this. But why would NASA alive now? But I'll 1874 02:00:57.399 --> 02:01:00.720 take their word for it, fools, because look how about 1875 02:01:00.760 --> 02:01:05.119 it now? Does it break your paradigm? That's a change? 1876 02:01:05.880 --> 02:01:08.800 And Cliff, would you agree not? At least at least 1877 02:01:08.800 --> 02:01:11.560 it makes more sense to the details we see from above? 1878 02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:15.239 And well it makes more sense than this. 1879 02:01:15.680 --> 02:01:18.760 Still pretty wrong. I mean, you play with it so much. 1880 02:01:18.880 --> 02:01:22.359 You're seeing details that we can't conceive of because. 1881 02:01:22.439 --> 02:01:25.119 You live on this. The details are all there, but 1882 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:28.600 it's still very raw details. All those details, the points 1883 02:01:28.600 --> 02:01:31.920 of interest, like all those spiky points everything. Someone says spiky, 1884 02:01:32.119 --> 02:01:34.960 Well it's not flat. Someone does a master artist on 1885 02:01:35.039 --> 02:01:37.720 at work here and they use that for TRASA light 1886 02:01:37.760 --> 02:01:40.840 in shadow and to make his forms. You could see 1887 02:01:40.840 --> 02:01:44.279 this in the in the data two dimensionally. Here's the is. 1888 02:01:44.600 --> 02:01:46.640 I didn't just do this and put it out overnight 1889 02:01:47.720 --> 02:01:51.520 money for months and confirm that I'm seeing the data 1890 02:01:51.560 --> 02:01:53.640 points before I said this is it, and believe it 1891 02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:56.439 or not, there aren't some who aren't vocal. There's one 1892 02:01:56.600 --> 02:01:58.680 who kind of is vocal, but too afraid to bring 1893 02:01:58.720 --> 02:02:02.760 it out in the open. And they disagree because they've 1894 02:02:02.760 --> 02:02:06.159 been too brainwashed by this. And also they really didn't 1895 02:02:06.199 --> 02:02:10.079 know what they were looking at anyway, no effects, but 1896 02:02:10.279 --> 02:02:12.760 that's the reality. So you see, that's safe. Here we go. 1897 02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:16.560 You wanted other views. That's the other side of face. 1898 02:02:18.279 --> 02:02:21.159 So what you see and look, notice you can still 1899 02:02:21.199 --> 02:02:25.920 see the pupil in the eye, the open mouth from 1900 02:02:25.920 --> 02:02:30.319 a side view where side views a concern profile. That's 1901 02:02:30.319 --> 02:02:33.640 how it looks on this side. Yeah, and obviously it 1902 02:02:34.119 --> 02:02:38.680 debunks NASA's pretty color view there. Same thing here you 1903 02:02:38.720 --> 02:02:42.960 could tell WHOA then you're telling me NASA is telling 1904 02:02:43.039 --> 02:02:46.720 us the truth everything you just said even before the show, 1905 02:02:46.760 --> 02:02:49.600 Cliff and on it, you were completely right about NASA. 1906 02:02:49.640 --> 02:02:53.239 They're deliberately going out of their way and that's what it. 1907 02:02:53.319 --> 02:02:57.279 They said, crimes against humanity. So I support your thesis 1908 02:02:57.319 --> 02:02:58.880 on that, and I think you should do a paper 1909 02:02:58.920 --> 02:03:03.199 on that. Cliff, I think us slide on into it. Yeah, 1910 02:03:03.920 --> 02:03:07.640 because it's a crime against humanity. We all have a 1911 02:03:07.720 --> 02:03:10.880 right to know. You said to yourself. So but either 1912 02:03:10.920 --> 02:03:14.439 way either so that's what let's let's continue around other 1913 02:03:14.600 --> 02:03:20.199 perspective views. Do you do? Uh? Does does Maelan have a. 1914 02:03:21.880 --> 02:03:25.760 Straight shot using this colorized image? 1915 02:03:26.720 --> 02:03:30.680 Uh? Yeah, right here straight looking down? That was the face. 1916 02:03:31.079 --> 02:03:33.920 That's this one. That's that one, okay, fun and that's 1917 02:03:33.920 --> 02:03:37.000 the one from two thousand and one, that's one twelve. 1918 02:03:37.039 --> 02:03:40.079 But you know we went over it already. So yeah, this, 1919 02:03:40.319 --> 02:03:42.079 you know, that's from the two thousand and one image 1920 02:03:42.119 --> 02:03:43.920 that they used from the two thousand and seven at 1921 02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:47.439 piece and they used what they call the mola data 1922 02:03:47.840 --> 02:03:50.720 is crap polar. That's why the chapter in the book 1923 02:03:51.399 --> 02:03:55.560 Richard Oldland was cool and uh provided for me to 1924 02:03:55.720 --> 02:03:59.399 contribute to the book to describe about that mola crapola 1925 02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:02.279 how it has not show the real shape or let 1926 02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:05.239 alone size of the face or any details. You got 1927 02:04:05.239 --> 02:04:07.159 to get the book The Faces of Mars Beyond Metrix 1928 02:04:07.159 --> 02:04:09.760 of the Latent Shadow to read it and or go 1929 02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:13.359 to Enterprise Mission archives as how to make them, uh, 1930 02:04:14.119 --> 02:04:16.960 how to make them face out of a molar hill? 1931 02:04:17.159 --> 02:04:19.640 Know how to make a mountain out of a molehill? 1932 02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:21.840 And he was right, how to make him out and 1933 02:04:21.880 --> 02:04:24.840 out of a molar hill. Mola crap pola they wanted. 1934 02:04:25.079 --> 02:04:27.640 They use mola to deceive us, though we cannot give 1935 02:04:27.720 --> 02:04:30.640 us the true shape or any details as the basis 1936 02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:32.359 to say, this is the true shape. But you got 1937 02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:40.640 shape from shadow photoclinometry, something really scientific. Yeah, we get that. Yeah, 1938 02:04:40.680 --> 02:04:43.039 and we got that right. And now we're spinning it 1939 02:04:43.199 --> 02:04:46.479 because the animation spins around. I just grab certain frames 1940 02:04:46.520 --> 02:04:49.640 just spinning around, just to show you example. And compared 1941 02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:51.920 to how it would look from the real true shape 1942 02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:53.800 of the face, which one makes it looks like in 1943 02:04:53.920 --> 02:04:56.359 most sense the one on the bottom, it might be 1944 02:04:56.439 --> 02:05:01.000 more scary. Throw some nuts, every one, because this is 1945 02:05:01.039 --> 02:05:04.079 what NASA is really they're looking down at. This is 1946 02:05:04.119 --> 02:05:06.079 what they're keeping us from. This is why you have 1947 02:05:06.159 --> 02:05:09.119 international spacecraft that we had to also help get the 1948 02:05:09.159 --> 02:05:11.920 Mars too, because the cats out of the bag, like 1949 02:05:12.439 --> 02:05:15.640 Cliffs said, since the Soviets, so there had to be 1950 02:05:15.680 --> 02:05:18.039 a policy and the means of bringing the world together, 1951 02:05:18.199 --> 02:05:20.439 not just the US thing. And this one world to 1952 02:05:20.560 --> 02:05:24.520 order is doomed. Good good, good olding trunk. Keep doing it, 1953 02:05:25.039 --> 02:05:26.399 you know, won't piss me off. 1954 02:05:27.119 --> 02:05:29.720 All right, So let's let's see here we go now 1955 02:05:29.760 --> 02:05:33.680 watch this. Yeah, as we spin around as from the 1956 02:05:33.760 --> 02:05:36.520 chin view. Now, Cliff, do you think at least the 1957 02:05:36.560 --> 02:05:42.119 bottom might look make look like more sense than how nasaprivise? Yeah, 1958 02:05:42.159 --> 02:05:44.600 I mean, you know, because now at least we see 1959 02:05:44.680 --> 02:05:48.159 reasons of the relief that we're able to city two dimensionally. 1960 02:05:48.479 --> 02:05:51.960 It's actually, like you said, it's been all carved and 1961 02:05:52.000 --> 02:05:57.239 you can see carved features around the face. They all 1962 02:05:57.279 --> 02:06:00.319 are escaped like little cells, like like dragon scale was 1963 02:06:00.359 --> 02:06:06.319 like you know, and then the magnificent geometrical layouts and 1964 02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:08.159 of the art, the only art. 1965 02:06:08.479 --> 02:06:12.520 It's it's just so encompassing. It's freaky, to be honest, 1966 02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:15.640 but hey, all the more power. That's why. Don't be 1967 02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:18.399 a fraid Like my friend doctor John Brandenburg said, well 1968 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:23.680 why not because they're long deck. It's like inheritance. We're 1969 02:06:23.720 --> 02:06:26.359 going to Mars, folks, We're going to Mars and this 1970 02:06:26.399 --> 02:06:28.239 is what we're gonna see. Do you think that you're 1971 02:06:28.239 --> 02:06:30.600 gonna see this? Oh, no reason to go there, nothing 1972 02:06:30.640 --> 02:06:34.319 to see here. Stay away from Slidonia or man, you 1973 02:06:34.439 --> 02:06:37.359 gotta get me on a rocket like tomorrow. Elon You 1974 02:06:37.399 --> 02:06:37.880 know what I mean. 1975 02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:43.359 I used to think Elon Musk would be the one 1976 02:06:43.359 --> 02:06:44.920 who would out the government. 1977 02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:48.680 But I think that he's complacent. I don't think, well, 1978 02:06:48.720 --> 02:06:50.960 he's gotta be he you know, they're they're the ones 1979 02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:53.199 that are really gonna be funding it. In my opinion, 1980 02:06:53.680 --> 02:06:56.279 NASA I don't have much respect for anymore. And I 1981 02:06:56.319 --> 02:06:59.079 mean them as a political agency, not those who have 1982 02:06:59.199 --> 02:07:02.199 to suffer and go through the deceptions and force people 1983 02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:05.279 to lie to us and becompliicit. They got to get paid, right, 1984 02:07:05.560 --> 02:07:09.520 Everyone's got families. It's the organization and what they did 1985 02:07:09.560 --> 02:07:15.800 to us regards to all this, it's just so embarrassing. 1986 02:07:16.039 --> 02:07:19.680 But they they're not no longer considered a scientific agency. 1987 02:07:19.760 --> 02:07:22.640 Not a science agency, never a straight answer. There's so 1988 02:07:22.680 --> 02:07:25.760 many acronyms, you know that and euphemisms. This stands for 1989 02:07:26.359 --> 02:07:29.319 when you know, when we're faced with something like this, 1990 02:07:29.359 --> 02:07:32.359 where it takes someone like me, no matter what you think, Yeah, 1991 02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:34.680 I studied that. I learned how to do what I 1992 02:07:34.760 --> 02:07:37.520 need to do to reveal what NASA will not reveal 1993 02:07:37.600 --> 02:07:40.520 to you. This is the reality, what they're really looking at. 1994 02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:43.119 You think that if they showed us this in nineteen 1995 02:07:43.199 --> 02:07:46.079 ninety eight, as I'm showing here now, you know why 1996 02:07:46.159 --> 02:07:49.239 they didn't want to look down at it, and you 1997 02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:51.279 know they wanted to try to make it look as 1998 02:07:51.279 --> 02:07:54.319 smooth as possible. They were trying to adde the shape 1999 02:07:54.359 --> 02:07:58.760 of the face to make it look as flat as possible. 2000 02:07:59.039 --> 02:08:04.720 Right this get some conclusionary remarks, Gary, give us the 2001 02:08:04.840 --> 02:08:07.239 last work. 2002 02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:10.399 Look that from the Darius Angeles you we're closing it down. 2003 02:08:10.479 --> 02:08:14.119 We're closing it down. So again, this is the show 2004 02:08:14.560 --> 02:08:17.359 what the true science is that NASA's not giving you, 2005 02:08:17.880 --> 02:08:20.720 and how NASA presents us. But it's still interesting to 2006 02:08:20.760 --> 02:08:23.479 look at. And as you study this, and who knows, 2007 02:08:23.479 --> 02:08:25.960 maybe it'll inspire you. What do you think of all this? 2008 02:08:26.039 --> 02:08:27.760 Do you think your kids have the right to see this? 2009 02:08:28.079 --> 02:08:29.720 Do you think you want to run next door and 2010 02:08:30.319 --> 02:08:33.039 you know, go stamp your neighbors, steal their shit and 2011 02:08:33.039 --> 02:08:35.439 they all set the world on fire because we have 2012 02:08:35.520 --> 02:08:37.399 this left there? Or does it make you feel more 2013 02:08:37.439 --> 02:08:40.159 inspired like we used to be, Cliff, growing up with 2014 02:08:40.239 --> 02:08:43.319 store trep that gave us the vision. That can't help 2015 02:08:43.359 --> 02:08:45.920 get NASA get money for space for what, only for 2016 02:08:45.960 --> 02:08:48.239 them to lie and control it and hide it from us. 2017 02:08:48.880 --> 02:08:51.039 That's why I agree with Oh, that's another point I 2018 02:08:51.079 --> 02:08:53.159 want to bring up, Cliff, know it is Google Earth. 2019 02:08:53.680 --> 02:08:56.800 They use Molla data too. Where's the big bump on 2020 02:08:56.840 --> 02:08:59.960 the forehead, They still change the shape, that's Mulla data. 2021 02:09:00.159 --> 02:09:02.880 How NASA presents it to the world and yet as 2022 02:09:02.920 --> 02:09:06.279 far from the truth because it's deception. They don't want 2023 02:09:06.279 --> 02:09:07.880 to show us what it really looks like. 2024 02:09:08.000 --> 02:09:11.359 Oh, Google Google Mars right, right. 2025 02:09:11.239 --> 02:09:14.640 Google Earth, Google Mars. Correct, And that's what his base. 2026 02:09:14.760 --> 02:09:17.520 They had to run like as scientists do, and the 2027 02:09:17.720 --> 02:09:21.079 essay had to do under NASA's tarte and control on 2028 02:09:21.239 --> 02:09:24.359 how things get presented as real does so, not only 2029 02:09:24.399 --> 02:09:26.560 do we have them cought busted with the two thousand 2030 02:09:26.560 --> 02:09:29.119 and one image for a two thousand and seven hit piece, 2031 02:09:29.680 --> 02:09:32.439 we're able to bust them for that as well as 2032 02:09:32.520 --> 02:09:37.880 the color as well as the true shape. Here it is. 2033 02:09:38.199 --> 02:09:41.000 You have some mad marsh and Morezavilla showing it to 2034 02:09:41.079 --> 02:09:44.319 you all in twenty twenty six at this point. And 2035 02:09:44.399 --> 02:09:45.920 you know, and there's a book on it called The 2036 02:09:45.960 --> 02:09:48.880 Faces of the Mars Beyond Mere Tricks of Light and Shadow. 2037 02:09:48.920 --> 02:09:51.239 I would appreciate you all getting it. It's my first book. 2038 02:09:51.680 --> 02:09:53.439 The next one is going to start being made. The 2039 02:09:53.479 --> 02:09:57.479 Pyramids and Mores Oasis of the damns. But so check 2040 02:09:57.520 --> 02:09:59.720 that out. This is how Google Earth presents it. It's 2041 02:09:59.760 --> 02:10:03.840 really disgusting, you know, and you know, and social intelligence. 2042 02:10:03.880 --> 02:10:07.199 This is those my intebligence, more than what NASA showed 2043 02:10:07.199 --> 02:10:11.319 in two thousand and seven, because Cliff, Cliff, I didn't 2044 02:10:11.359 --> 02:10:14.479 know that. You know, the erosion is so bad. It's 2045 02:10:14.600 --> 02:10:20.439 changing shape, you know, over a couple of years now. 2046 02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:23.399 So there's again side views just to compare and show 2047 02:10:23.520 --> 02:10:27.399 you that this is deliberate on their end. I'm deliberate 2048 02:10:27.439 --> 02:10:29.760 on my end showing you the truth to call them out. 2049 02:10:30.000 --> 02:10:33.119 They're cold busted and I'm gonna have freedom of information 2050 02:10:33.239 --> 02:10:37.319 acts going, believe me something starting this year too. So 2051 02:10:37.760 --> 02:10:40.439 again there's a you know, another view. And notice here, Cliff, 2052 02:10:40.840 --> 02:10:45.920 what's amazing. I believe that there's a purpose s position 2053 02:10:46.039 --> 02:10:49.680 because of the mouth being opened at certain times or 2054 02:10:49.720 --> 02:10:52.319 angles and positions. Look what we see between the mouth 2055 02:10:52.439 --> 02:10:55.199 on the other side, on the ground away from the face, 2056 02:10:55.479 --> 02:11:00.199 what is that thing sticking up? Pointy thing? And as 2057 02:11:00.239 --> 02:11:03.760 it turns, it matches up directly with the lines of 2058 02:11:03.800 --> 02:11:06.880 the face, the car tours of the face. As it turns. 2059 02:11:07.079 --> 02:11:11.640 It's deliberate, it's deliberate, and I could show that video wise, 2060 02:11:11.680 --> 02:11:13.680 then you do understand that better. But I just wanted 2061 02:11:13.680 --> 02:11:16.479 to say it to make note. So this thing's fascinating 2062 02:11:16.520 --> 02:11:19.279 and it looks then it looks kind of scary. It 2063 02:11:19.319 --> 02:11:22.000 definitely makes more sense than now Massive presenting it, because 2064 02:11:22.000 --> 02:11:24.159 at least now it makes a little bit more sense. 2065 02:11:24.199 --> 02:11:26.960 And then it should make more sense because why are 2066 02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:29.560 you seeing it now through me? And they're avoiding at 2067 02:11:29.600 --> 02:11:33.640 all courts to show this. Yeah, and this is we're 2068 02:11:33.680 --> 02:11:36.600 almost done here. This is all like the second to 2069 02:11:36.680 --> 02:11:38.600 last image we got from high Rise. This is how 2070 02:11:38.680 --> 02:11:42.079 Massive presents it. Wow, they give it to the world. 2071 02:11:42.359 --> 02:11:44.880 Remember is your money you pay for this. That's why 2072 02:11:44.880 --> 02:11:47.800 I want down a quality act, because why they're giving 2073 02:11:47.920 --> 02:11:51.960 us crapolay we pay them. We should be seeing what 2074 02:11:52.000 --> 02:11:55.199 they're able to see. They're obvious skating. Look at this, 2075 02:11:55.439 --> 02:11:57.920 there's the ie, there's the mouth. Oh yeah, you see 2076 02:11:57.960 --> 02:12:01.560 subtle details smoothed out everywhere. That's nice. But if you 2077 02:12:01.560 --> 02:12:03.439 don't know what you're looking at at the first glance, 2078 02:12:03.479 --> 02:12:05.760 like you said, who the hell's gonna see what I do? Right, Cliff, 2079 02:12:05.960 --> 02:12:07.680 you brought that up early. It's a great point. I 2080 02:12:07.680 --> 02:12:09.840 should have put that in a book. But anyway, my 2081 02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:11.760 next one, and I'll even throw your name in front 2082 02:12:11.760 --> 02:12:14.960 of quote. Now, this is how they give it out. 2083 02:12:15.439 --> 02:12:18.319 Here's the true version by process from the raw. 2084 02:12:22.319 --> 02:12:24.640 Wow, they really overexpose it. 2085 02:12:24.840 --> 02:12:29.239 Image big, big, and they soften it to hide the relief, 2086 02:12:29.279 --> 02:12:32.520 to hide all the artistical relief, not just on the face, 2087 02:12:32.560 --> 02:12:35.479 but away from it. Because now you could see, if 2088 02:12:35.520 --> 02:12:38.439 you follow the lines, you could tell this is not natural. 2089 02:12:38.479 --> 02:12:41.399 This is not erosion, This is permanent, this is esched, 2090 02:12:41.640 --> 02:12:46.239 this is ordnately carved. This is something unfathomable because, like 2091 02:12:46.279 --> 02:12:49.000 you said, the size and scale of the face itself 2092 02:12:49.199 --> 02:12:56.560 bewilders you. What about everything else that sits on I'm crazy, right, No, 2093 02:12:56.960 --> 02:12:59.199 this is what they're looking at and what they're steering 2094 02:12:59.239 --> 02:13:02.560 away from. Yeah, not just in this area, by the way. 2095 02:13:03.479 --> 02:13:07.239 So here's an upright view of it of that same image. Okay, 2096 02:13:07.359 --> 02:13:09.880 that was the second the last image. We got one 2097 02:13:10.079 --> 02:13:13.199 release to us a few weeks back, and the previous 2098 02:13:13.199 --> 02:13:15.680 one that was released to us this is that one. 2099 02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:18.920 So again we have like fifteen or seventeen different images, 2100 02:13:19.119 --> 02:13:22.279 and every single one is released like this to the public. 2101 02:13:22.840 --> 02:13:24.359 Oh so what do I do? I go to the 2102 02:13:24.479 --> 02:13:28.399 row I still haven't found anyone here to China, England 2103 02:13:28.439 --> 02:13:32.680 and Russia wherever no one else is processing these images apparently, 2104 02:13:32.880 --> 02:13:34.640 I would love to if you could do it, people, 2105 02:13:34.960 --> 02:13:41.600 please show it. I one colloberative, discussion, colloperative, you know, 2106 02:13:41.880 --> 02:13:44.760 maybe even work to reveal what's there? Am I wrong? 2107 02:13:45.079 --> 02:13:47.520 Prove me wrong? The data is only because I could 2108 02:13:47.520 --> 02:13:49.680 prove me wrong, and maybe you could help me even 2109 02:13:49.760 --> 02:13:52.760 bring out more with skills you might have that I'm 2110 02:13:52.840 --> 02:13:55.399 lacking to get through every little thing that I believe, 2111 02:13:55.479 --> 02:13:58.720 Like Cliffs even said, layers of different things to bring 2112 02:13:58.760 --> 02:14:00.880 out what we should be able to see easily. But 2113 02:14:00.920 --> 02:14:03.039 it's pretty amazing, though, what did you a Greek cliff? 2114 02:14:04.119 --> 02:14:08.960 You've done? You would expect this from NASA, right, not me? Yeah? 2115 02:14:09.520 --> 02:14:11.560 Well me in my lifetime. 2116 02:14:11.600 --> 02:14:16.760 If they actually catch the Malane group that deceived everyone, 2117 02:14:16.760 --> 02:14:19.680 they're probably gonna heads will roll. I have always said 2118 02:14:19.720 --> 02:14:23.279 that heads should roll, So all right, hey, well listen, 2119 02:14:23.439 --> 02:14:25.760 this is amazing. My guess it has been Gary Lazier. 2120 02:14:25.880 --> 02:14:31.399 The book is The Face on Mars Beyond Mere Tricks 2121 02:14:31.439 --> 02:14:35.319 of Light and Shadow. It came out last I think 2122 02:14:35.600 --> 02:14:41.439 you said, October. It's available on Amazon and it is 2123 02:14:41.479 --> 02:14:45.159 three hundred pages plus, and it is filled with all 2124 02:14:45.199 --> 02:14:49.520 these images we have presented. If you would rather see 2125 02:14:49.560 --> 02:14:51.680 it up close and personal, now you can go to 2126 02:14:51.720 --> 02:14:57.000 the Facebook page. Go to Earth Ancient's Facebook and Gary's presenting. 2127 02:14:57.159 --> 02:14:58.880 I think he's going to give us at least ten 2128 02:14:59.039 --> 02:15:03.479 images that you can see. Plus he's throwing in a 2129 02:15:03.560 --> 02:15:05.960 video I believe, right, Yeah. 2130 02:15:05.840 --> 02:15:07.960 Yeah, you could link to or in bed you can 2131 02:15:08.760 --> 02:15:12.760 link to the video where you have what NASA's presenting 2132 02:15:13.199 --> 02:15:14.640 and what Gary exposes. 2133 02:15:14.720 --> 02:15:20.600 So, hey, man, you've done exemplary work. It's fantastic. 2134 02:15:21.960 --> 02:15:24.600 I'm glad you read the book. So in your opinion, 2135 02:15:24.760 --> 02:15:26.439 what would you give it to the people should they 2136 02:15:26.479 --> 02:15:27.000 bite the book? 2137 02:15:27.000 --> 02:15:28.800 How many stores would you give it? Out of five 2138 02:15:29.439 --> 02:15:32.479 I'd give it. I'd give it close to five. I 2139 02:15:32.560 --> 02:15:33.880 give it four plus. 2140 02:15:34.279 --> 02:15:37.000 Wow. Thanks, there you go, and I all the replies 2141 02:15:37.039 --> 02:15:39.600 I've got so far, believe it or not, of five stars, 2142 02:15:39.640 --> 02:15:42.279 I have more than twenty some reviews through good read 2143 02:15:43.279 --> 02:15:44.079 to positive. 2144 02:15:44.079 --> 02:15:46.159 I haven't read the whole book, though, Gary, I need 2145 02:15:46.199 --> 02:15:48.199 to read the whole book. That's why I should. 2146 02:15:48.439 --> 02:15:50.840 I gotta get a twist, you gotta get to go 2147 02:15:50.880 --> 02:15:51.479 through a twist. 2148 02:15:51.800 --> 02:15:54.720 I'll hold off my stars until after I finished the book. 2149 02:15:54.760 --> 02:15:55.600 So fair enough. 2150 02:15:55.640 --> 02:15:58.279 Hey, but listen, man, you're doing excellent work. I want 2151 02:15:58.319 --> 02:16:01.800 to thank you for joining me. And when the next 2152 02:16:01.800 --> 02:16:03.239 book comes out, let's have you back. 2153 02:16:04.199 --> 02:16:07.399 Definitely, what even, Cliff, if you want to set up 2154 02:16:07.399 --> 02:16:09.520 just to show about more sometimes I got it. I 2155 02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:12.319 got many funds. We could get into showing some pyramids, 2156 02:16:12.800 --> 02:16:15.520 you know, talking about you know, the prep for the 2157 02:16:15.560 --> 02:16:18.720 next book. Maybe if you want so, don't be a stranger, 2158 02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:21.359 my friend, as long as you call me and invite 2159 02:16:21.399 --> 02:16:24.560 me back. And if you're listeners, fans, audience, you know, 2160 02:16:24.560 --> 02:16:26.760 I would like to see more of other things. And 2161 02:16:27.159 --> 02:16:30.239 you know, see my crazy face here, my crazy words. 2162 02:16:30.560 --> 02:16:32.760 You know, if you all, thank you very much. Cliff, 2163 02:16:32.799 --> 02:16:33.200 you rock. 2164 02:16:39.799 --> 02:16:42.760 You may have heard me mention that we will have 2165 02:16:42.840 --> 02:16:46.959 a gallery. Gary, he just has sent me a really 2166 02:16:47.040 --> 02:16:51.239 nice gallery of photographs, including the enhanced images he was 2167 02:16:51.239 --> 02:16:56.520 speaking about. But obviously there's a lot of photographs that 2168 02:16:56.559 --> 02:16:58.639 we can't include in the gallery because it would be 2169 02:16:58.719 --> 02:17:01.840 too big. And to see those, go to Earth Ancients 2170 02:17:01.920 --> 02:17:05.399 on YouTube. Go YouTube Earth Ancients and the Punch in 2171 02:17:06.360 --> 02:17:09.719 the Face on Mars with Gary Lazier L E. G. 2172 02:17:09.879 --> 02:17:11.200 G I E. R. 2173 02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:16.200 E and all that information will be there, and of 2174 02:17:16.239 --> 02:17:20.600 course his book The Face on Mars is available on 2175 02:17:21.040 --> 02:17:25.319 Amazon or wherever you get your books. The other thing 2176 02:17:25.680 --> 02:17:29.040 is that he has a well no he doesn't have 2177 02:17:29.159 --> 02:17:34.079 a audible version of it, but there's enough images in 2178 02:17:34.159 --> 02:17:36.200 the gallery that you get a sense of what's going on. 2179 02:17:37.559 --> 02:17:44.319 And it's amazing because he's able to remove the photoshop 2180 02:17:44.879 --> 02:17:48.520 application that NASA has put on and extract a lot 2181 02:17:48.559 --> 02:17:52.399 more detail, which is very I mean, Mark Carlotto can 2182 02:17:52.440 --> 02:17:54.600 do that to a degree, but Gary's been practicing a 2183 02:17:54.600 --> 02:17:58.120 lot longer, and it's it's a lot of work because 2184 02:17:58.239 --> 02:18:01.600 sometimes you take a portion of the face off or 2185 02:18:01.719 --> 02:18:05.479 some of the Sidonia region and you can't get it back. 2186 02:18:07.239 --> 02:18:10.079 It's just amazing that they're doing this, you know, they 2187 02:18:10.120 --> 02:18:14.719 do it with a lot of portions of the planet. 2188 02:18:15.479 --> 02:18:18.799 I have a photograph that was leaked that I talked about. 2189 02:18:18.840 --> 02:18:24.399 It's by a lake. It's Atlantis Chaos portion of Mars, 2190 02:18:25.079 --> 02:18:28.600 and there's a city by the lake, and it's so revealing. 2191 02:18:28.639 --> 02:18:32.399 You can actually see roads and buildings and steeples and 2192 02:18:32.440 --> 02:18:35.879 things like that. It's really really strange. I always joke 2193 02:18:36.120 --> 02:18:38.879 that I've had it for about four or five years. 2194 02:18:39.200 --> 02:18:41.280 When I show it to an archaeologist, they go, well, 2195 02:18:41.319 --> 02:18:44.639 how much have they excavated? And I don't tell them 2196 02:18:44.680 --> 02:18:46.520 it's Mars. They tell them it's a place on Earth. 2197 02:18:47.239 --> 02:18:51.200 And when I say that, I say it's Mars. They quiet, 2198 02:18:51.559 --> 02:18:55.479 They get very quiet all of a sudden, which is fascinating. 2199 02:18:55.600 --> 02:19:03.159 So I fully expect that when NASA is outed, and 2200 02:19:03.200 --> 02:19:05.159 they can be added by China, or they can be 2201 02:19:05.159 --> 02:19:08.319 added by Russia or by India. All three of those 2202 02:19:08.360 --> 02:19:13.479 countries have very active space programs, although I'm not familiar 2203 02:19:13.479 --> 02:19:20.600 with a rover that is active with Russia or with India. 2204 02:19:20.639 --> 02:19:24.959 Those are extremely expensive. The rovers that America has there 2205 02:19:24.959 --> 02:19:28.440 are a couple of billion each, I mean billion with 2206 02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:32.319 a bee, and I don't think I don't think other 2207 02:19:32.360 --> 02:19:35.280 people other than China and America can afford it. So 2208 02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:40.799 but when you see rover footage, I mean, they're doing 2209 02:19:40.959 --> 02:19:44.120 everything they can to keep that thing away from ruins, 2210 02:19:44.200 --> 02:19:46.719 but they bump into them all the time. So this 2211 02:19:46.879 --> 02:19:50.399 is a real problem. This is a serious, serious problem 2212 02:19:50.440 --> 02:19:56.000 of this cover up, and I fully expect. I mean, 2213 02:19:56.159 --> 02:20:02.239 I can't imagine the administration of NASA keeping their jobs 2214 02:20:02.280 --> 02:20:06.680 when they're outed, when they are showing photographs of ruins, 2215 02:20:06.680 --> 02:20:08.879 and Manassa goes, well, we didn't know they were there. 2216 02:20:09.760 --> 02:20:14.200 I mean, they're going to be humiliated, and rightly so. 2217 02:20:15.559 --> 02:20:20.040 We're spending our tax dollars on their joke of an 2218 02:20:20.079 --> 02:20:24.479 experiment to let us think that there's only microbes and 2219 02:20:24.559 --> 02:20:27.159 bits and places where there's a little bit of water. 2220 02:20:28.399 --> 02:20:31.799 There's entire forests that we didn't even talk about today 2221 02:20:31.920 --> 02:20:36.360 on Mars that have been documented. So anyhow, I hope 2222 02:20:36.360 --> 02:20:39.280 you enjoyed that. Remember to go to Facebook, go to 2223 02:20:39.319 --> 02:20:48.000 Earth Anxious and see the footage of the presentation. All right, 2224 02:20:48.040 --> 02:20:49.479 that's it for this program. I want to think my 2225 02:20:49.520 --> 02:20:54.840 guest today, Gary Lazier, coming to us from Colorado as always, 2226 02:20:54.840 --> 02:20:58.920 the team of Gail Tour, Mark Foster, and Feya Pavar. 2227 02:20:59.680 --> 02:21:03.719 You guys rock all right, take care of you well, 2228 02:21:03.799 --> 02:21:06.840 and we will talk to you again really soon. 2229 02:22:06.360 --> 02:22:06.920 All