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<v Speaker 2>You'll be happy that you did. Been a busy, busy

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<v Speaker 2>show so far. Today we did talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about the rivalry with Pope and Kelsey now in place

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<v Speaker 2>at Louisville and Kentucky. How you can just tell that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a legitimate, very legitimate amount of respect for both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think anybody's truly like bothered that. But

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<v Speaker 2>Pope made a comment today at his press conference about

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<v Speaker 2>the about the game being played this year way earlier

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<v Speaker 2>than we're used to. November eleventh is the is the date,

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<v Speaker 2>which again it's just you know, it sounds weird and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be weird, but we'll get used to it, I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine, or maybe this is a one off and

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<v Speaker 2>we never played this early again. But regardless, Pope was

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<v Speaker 2>asked about it, and you know, he didn't have much

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and and I guess playfully, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>said blame Louisville. But even couldn't leave it at that,

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<v Speaker 2>had to mention, you know that he has respect for

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey because again they just they do, in fact

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<v Speaker 2>respect one another. And I just I brought it up

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<v Speaker 2>because there's really not a whole lot to take from it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I what I wanted to to make a

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<v Speaker 2>talking point is that I think if you just are

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that eventually, because it is a rivalry, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they played nice thus far, but man, just give it time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna get real nasty. Maybe it will. I just,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what we know about both sides, I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>that happening. And and you know, and I'm I'm okay

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<v Speaker 2>with it, I really am. But here's what Pope had

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<v Speaker 2>to say when asked earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, increasingly complicated and and so I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was, Uh, I think it was what

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<v Speaker 3>what worked out best? Is there? I heard there might

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<v Speaker 3>be a push people wanted that in December? Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>So blame Louisville for that? Okay, I actually I actually

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how we got to the date. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's more important people are dealing with those those issues

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<v Speaker 3>than me. But but I'm sure it's Louisville's fault. I

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<v Speaker 3>said incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Ming season.

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<v Speaker 2>So first of all, I do think it was Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>that wonted the game earlier. But I also think that

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<v Speaker 2>Pope is being sincere when he says that as far

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<v Speaker 2>as like when it's played like he has, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>other people kind of really handling the logistics of getting

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<v Speaker 2>that all worked out. Not that he wouldn't have any

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<v Speaker 2>say so, but you know, I just I think these

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<v Speaker 2>guys really do like each other, and I would be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked if something happens to where that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're all they're clearly competitors, so they want to

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<v Speaker 2>they want to beat each other bad. But that won't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that we're going to have anything close to what

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<v Speaker 2>we used to have with previous coaching matchups within this rivalry,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the one that we'll never see again. Uh as

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<v Speaker 2>far as just the hatred between the two Patino and

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<v Speaker 2>cal but after playing that in the four o'clock hour,

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<v Speaker 2>as I check the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text

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<v Speaker 2>on whiche. By the way, you guys can text in

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<v Speaker 2>if you like. Five oh two four three eight ninety

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<v Speaker 2>seventy three is the number. But two different people, seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>from both sides, one from a Louisville side, one from

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<v Speaker 2>a Kentucky side. They mentioned kind of in a different way,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think their point is similar. That they don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that they like Kelsey and they don't like that

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<v Speaker 2>they like Pope, And I get it, like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not bothered that I that I find

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Pope to be kind of likable. Maybe that's growth

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<v Speaker 2>in me, maybe it's maturity. Maybe I'm not just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I can want Kentucky to lose every game,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could want Mark Pope to be a really

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<v Speaker 2>really bad coach, but like, I don't believe he's a

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<v Speaker 2>bad coach, and if I did, I would tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I can enjoy him losing if in

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<v Speaker 2>fact they lose a bunch of games, but it won't

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<v Speaker 2>be because man, yeah, I like to see that guy

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<v Speaker 2>lose because I don't like him. I like to see

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<v Speaker 2>him lose because he coaches Kentucky. So I think we'll

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<v Speaker 2>we'll adjust. But it does seem a little bit different

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<v Speaker 2>than anything I've experienced. You know, I wasn't around whenever

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<v Speaker 2>Joe B and Denny we were leading these two programs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we know a lot of history that, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, led to it all working out to where

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<v Speaker 2>they did meet in the dream Game. And then of

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<v Speaker 2>course it became a regular thing on the schedule, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's all she wrote. And then I mean to see

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<v Speaker 2>those two, you know, those two guys doing a legendary

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<v Speaker 2>radio show on this station right here for as many

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<v Speaker 2>years as they did. I mean, again, I'm not somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that can go back in time. Whenever it was really

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<v Speaker 2>getting going, when Joe B didn't want to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>right he he you know, he asked him to cut

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<v Speaker 2>off the camera, and Denny's on camera saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's typical. Like I wasn't around when that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do remember whenever it became a story here

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<v Speaker 2>locally that those two guys were gonna be doing a

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<v Speaker 2>radio show together, and I just remember, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>my family and whatnot, people that were a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of me being a Louisville fan, Like they were kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, it's one of the things you remember

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, Like, wait a second, what Like these

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<v Speaker 2>two guys are going to not only are they are

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<v Speaker 2>they friendly now and they enjoy talking, you know, fishing

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<v Speaker 2>and hunting, but they're going to actually work together. And

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<v Speaker 2>they did and that that was one of the more

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<v Speaker 2>special radio programs we've ever had in this market. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, shout out to both those guys. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think he can be a rivalry and we

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<v Speaker 2>can want to dislike the other, but let's not force it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, let's not force it, all right. Something

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<v Speaker 2>else that we discussed earlier today has been the big

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<v Speaker 2>news regarding the NBA Draft lottery last night, where the Mavericks,

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<v Speaker 2>who have been the punching bag of the NBA is

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<v Speaker 2>as just everybody making fun of them for the Luka

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<v Speaker 2>Doncic trade. I mean, nobody has had a worse two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half three month stretch other than Nico Harrison,

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<v Speaker 2>the GM of the Mavericks who traded Luca and really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get any draft didn't get any draft picks for it,

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<v Speaker 2>got a good player, but a player that objectively, as

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<v Speaker 2>it stands right now, is not as good and as

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<v Speaker 2>impactful as Luca and is older and is also very

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<v Speaker 2>injury prone. Like it was, you know, on paper, looking

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<v Speaker 2>like the worst trade of all time, and we got

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<v Speaker 2>a long way to go when it comes to determining

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<v Speaker 2>if it was the worst trade ever. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>can you believe they gave up this and got that

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<v Speaker 2>in return, right like Luca going to La and winning

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of rings after Lebron retires and the Mavericks

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<v Speaker 2>fading into irrelevancy and never being good for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's the scenario that would lead to it being,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not only in real time viewed as the

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<v Speaker 2>worst trade ever, but down the line you'd say, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that still seems crazy that they did that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think with the Mavericks getting the first pick with just

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<v Speaker 2>one point six percent or whatever it was chances of

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<v Speaker 2>winning the lottery and then actually winning, I mean, that

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<v Speaker 2>could make it to where maybe in three four years,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even less than that, the Mavericks don't even think

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<v Speaker 2>about the trade. They don't even think about Luca, because

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<v Speaker 2>they've got Cooper Flag, a guy that, as I've said

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the show today, if he's anywhere close to as

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<v Speaker 2>good as people claim he can be based off his potential,

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<v Speaker 2>the phenomenal skill set that he has, he doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>seem to have much of a weakness. There's certain things

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<v Speaker 2>he's clearly better at than he you know, than others,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't really know where the weakness is for

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<v Speaker 2>him now. Doesn't mean he's gonna automatically walk into the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA and be one of the best that's ever played,

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<v Speaker 2>but he seems to have a lot going for him

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<v Speaker 2>right now as a very young young individual eighteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and where he is at twenty three, who knows. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Dallas, I mean you've got older players currently

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<v Speaker 2>that can't have a whole lot left, especially guys like

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<v Speaker 2>Klay Thompson and I mean Kyrie still plays at a

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<v Speaker 2>high level. But you know, Kyrie and Ad both missed

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of games this year because of injury, and

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<v Speaker 2>AD's had that issue his whole career. Klay Thompson kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have it, kind of has as well. Kyrie, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know a whole lot about like a history

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<v Speaker 2>with injuries. But my point is this, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if those guys can, easier said than done, stay healthy

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<v Speaker 2>at an older age, If Cooper Flagg is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that people claim he's going to be, it could be

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<v Speaker 2>a very successful ending for those guys' career in Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>because he could you know, he's gonna be He's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the franchise. And yeah, they're older and again

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat injury prone, but clearly we're talking about guys that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you never know what father times when it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to hit you in how bad it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>hit you. But Klay Thompson, Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving,

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<v Speaker 2>those were three of the bigger names that have played

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA in the last fifteen years. So they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to be the guys they were in their

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<v Speaker 2>prime for it to work out. If Cooper flag is

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<v Speaker 2>as good as advertised, you can still have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of success to where like maybe like maybe Nico Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>ends up actually being the luckiest guy in the world

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<v Speaker 2>because he did the unthinkable and somehow kept his job.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet now here they are with a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>get the I mean not a chance they have the

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<v Speaker 2>number one pick, they're not trading it. They're taking Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>for lag, which, by the way, it was a one

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<v Speaker 2>point eight percent chance that the Mavericks had, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth lowest odds for a winner of the draft

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<v Speaker 2>lottery since nineteen eighty five. And if your teams like

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<v Speaker 2>the Utah Jazz or the Toronto Raptors, even Charlotte Hornets,

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<v Speaker 2>like you tanked and you may get a really good

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<v Speaker 2>player that in seven eight years you'll look back and

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<v Speaker 2>say we did the right we drafted the right guy

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<v Speaker 2>at this spot. But hard for me to think that

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<v Speaker 2>that player will be anything close to what Cooper Fly

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<v Speaker 2>can be. And by the way, that's not that player's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever it is you draft there that might end up

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<v Speaker 2>being good. But you were, you know you were. You

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<v Speaker 2>were there with a better chance, in fact, a much

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<v Speaker 2>better chance at getting that number one pick, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't bounce your way. It went to Dallas. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not one for conspiracy theories really at all, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in sports. There aren't many that I really find to

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<v Speaker 2>be believable that a lot of folks are convinced is

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Dallas, given what happened with them, the

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<v Speaker 2>way things played out, the market size they were, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>brands in the NBA, but obviously you know, with Luca there,

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<v Speaker 2>sure the NBA could see benefit from that because again

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to be fading away into irrelevancy just

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<v Speaker 2>because of the Luca trade, and now here they are

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<v Speaker 2>with a chance to quickly bounce back. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>have a hard time envisioning the NBA doing something to

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<v Speaker 2>set it up like this, But I at times can

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<v Speaker 2>be naive. Maybe I'm really naive when it comes to this,

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<v Speaker 2>And you guys are right in claiming that it was

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<v Speaker 2>all a setup and they were never gonna let Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>Flag end up in Utah. They were gonna never let

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag end up in Charlotte or Toronto or even

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<v Speaker 2>that's not right. But I'm not mad about it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and know that it's really set up for you to be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, up against it, right. I mean, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>in places like that long term, it's just not realistic

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not necessarily just because of like where you live, right,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe something different than what they want. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're in LA or New York or even like

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<v Speaker 2>Miami for that matter, or one of the big you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're in a bigger market. Like that stuff matters,

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<v Speaker 2>not because these guys are just seeking fame. But with fame,

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James. He's one of the most famous individuals on

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<v Speaker 2>the planet. And as a Pacers fan, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know what our market is compared to others

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<v Speaker 2>as far as size. It's certainly not a big market.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, somebody shared something the other day that

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<v Speaker 2>this before with the Celtics or now with Celtics. With

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacers, they do really, really, really well for who

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<v Speaker 2>they are. And what I mean by that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like they seem to operate with the with the understanding

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<v Speaker 2>that they've got to do things that they probably don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do. But look, they they understand. Like Paul

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<v Speaker 2>George was never going to sign long term there at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, trading him for Victor Oladipo and Devantas Sabonis

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like a stupid trade at the time for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people. Or they could have you know, waited,

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<v Speaker 2>waited it out, only for Paul George to walk away

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<v Speaker 2>and you get nothing for it. So Oladipo became a bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>Sabonis she got as much as you got out of him,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as you could get out of him. He

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<v Speaker 2>was an all star. So you know what you did,

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<v Speaker 2>You traded him for Halliburton, who's been your franchise player,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's working out well. You gave a guy like

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<v Speaker 2>Miles Turner more money than others would because you knew

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<v Speaker 2>he was good for you, and that money made it

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<v Speaker 2>to where he stayed in Indian didn't go for a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger market. So like, you got to make decisions with

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<v Speaker 2>the understanding of your identity. And I think the Pacers

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<v Speaker 2>do a great job, but again it's still to me

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<v Speaker 2>sets up to where where the Pacers realistically winning a title,

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<v Speaker 2>to me just doesn't seem realistic because they just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna Although it did open up a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be real it opened up a little bit with

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Tatum getting hurt. But again, like when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Pacers in the last fifteen years, the Paul

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<v Speaker 2>George era from twenty ten to twenty seventeen, six playoff

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<v Speaker 2>appearances to Eastern Conference Finals appearances. They traded Paul George

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<v Speaker 2>for Oladipo and simonas as I mentioned in that era,

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<v Speaker 2>but with those two guys three playoff appearances. Again, you

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<v Speaker 2>got the best year Ladipo ever had before he got

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<v Speaker 2>injured and bounced out of the league. Simonis was an

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<v Speaker 2>All star for you. You traded Sibonis for Halliburton, and

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<v Speaker 2>since he got there two playoff appearances to Eastern Conference

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<v Speaker 2>Finals appearances. I mean, they're being able to consistently make

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs and pivot from start a star and still

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<v Speaker 2>find success is impressive. It's not winning titles, which of

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<v Speaker 2>course is the ultimate goal. But like I think they

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<v Speaker 2>realistically know that, hey, they could, you know, they could

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<v Speaker 2>keep doing what Utah is trying to do right now,

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<v Speaker 2>or do what Charlotte's done. And you never really know

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<v Speaker 2>just how you know how much intent you have to tank,

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<v Speaker 2>do you end up being bad because you tried to

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<v Speaker 2>be good and wanted to succeed but you couldn't. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you just say, Okay, the damage is done. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to salvage this season. Let's tank and let's

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<v Speaker 2>get the best draft pick. Like the Pacers have never

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<v Speaker 2>done that, and I oftentimes have criticized them for that,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, you know, like Danny Grainger was their franchise

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<v Speaker 2>player for a while and they didn't win a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but like they got the most out of him any

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<v Speaker 2>that they possibly could. When they drafted Paul George, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>him in. So I think the Pacers, and maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is me being a Pacers fan saying this, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're a good example of operating for years now with

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<v Speaker 2>the understanding that, like they just they're gonna probably do

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<v Speaker 2>some things that others wouldn't do because they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to ever be in the dumps of getting a top

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<v Speaker 2>five pick because they're one of the worst teams in

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<v Speaker 2>the league, and clearly they're more they're things, even though

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<v Speaker 2>they're not. They haven't won a title yet. Life's better

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody. Things are much more healthy when you are

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<v Speaker 2>winning and you're competing and you're one of the top

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<v Speaker 2>teams in your in your conference. And that's certainly where

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<v Speaker 2>they are right now. This Knicks team looks pretty scary,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Knicks are good. The Pacers got them last year,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Knicks we're dealing with some injuries. But if

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<v Speaker 2>we get Knicks Pacers, I mean again, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>all in because I love that that's a rivalry, believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not. And I think the Knicks are a

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<v Speaker 2>fun team to watch this year. I kind of find

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<v Speaker 2>them to be a likable team at times, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know they're also front runners and the rivalry for me

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<v Speaker 2>will be there. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to you know, getting past the Knicks is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be tough. Who I mean on the West, like

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<v Speaker 2>Who's I mean? Obviously the thunder is still scary with

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<v Speaker 2>just what they can do. But again, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Thunderer built like a team that is good with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of young talent. But I don't know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I would honestly, let me ask you this, Austin. You

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<v Speaker 2>but you know enough to be dangerous if you are

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<v Speaker 2>my Pacers and you somehow get out of the East

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<v Speaker 2>now because you can get past New York and you

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<v Speaker 2>know Boston's you know, Boston's done. Who would you least

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<v Speaker 2>want to see in the West? You've got probably the

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<v Speaker 2>Timberwolves same like yeah, so I would actually say, despite

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<v Speaker 2>okayc being the one seed, I would least like to

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<v Speaker 2>see the Timberwolves or maybe even Golden State because they

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<v Speaker 2>still have that championship pedigree and you know they're not

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<v Speaker 2>what they once were, but still I mean, at any moment,

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<v Speaker 2>if they you know. I mean like they're a team

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<v Speaker 2>that in the postseason, you've been able to see that

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<v Speaker 2>despite them not winning as much games as they typically

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<v Speaker 2>do in getting like a one or two seed, they're

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<v Speaker 2>still a tough out. You know, there's still a chance.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd also be scared of Denver too, because yeah, as

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<v Speaker 4>long as you got Jokich. I know they are teams

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<v Speaker 4>kind of aging, and Jamal Murray's kind of aside from

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<v Speaker 4>a game where he completely goes off every once in

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<v Speaker 4>a while. But I think Aaron Gordon's playing well. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Michael Porter can go off, Michael Porter Junior can

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<v Speaker 4>go off at any time, and of course you got

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<v Speaker 4>the joke kitch factors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I think I think the of the of

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<v Speaker 2>the teams in the West. I swear this sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know how good they are, trust me. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I know the thunder were phenomenal this year and really

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<v Speaker 2>ran away with the West, but I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I would rather play them than certainly the the

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<v Speaker 2>Tea Wolves just because they scare me, and the Warriors,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and then the Nuggets. I kind of thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here, I am thinking to myself, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe the Nuggets would be the team that you'd

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<v Speaker 2>want to play, but we're talking about Jokic. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>whenever your third and fourth best player is Porter and

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Gordon. Like that team's loaded. Like they fired Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Malone because they knew they should have been better than

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<v Speaker 2>the four seed, you know what I mean. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at the bracket now, I mean, before too long,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be there with the Eastern Conference in

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<v Speaker 2>Western Conference finals and that should you know, should whoever

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I think we'll get some good matchups for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I talked a lot of crap about the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA playoffs before it started, and there have been some

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<v Speaker 2>blowouts and some results that you know aren't aren't probably

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<v Speaker 2>good for the league. But I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's been one of the best playoffs thus far in

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<v Speaker 2>a while. And trust me, I'm not just saying that

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<v Speaker 2>because of my pacers. It's just I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we've actually had some Like right now, you've got the

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder and the Nuggets. It's tied it to a piece.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the Tea Wolves and the Warriors. The Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>is currently leading three to one, which does make it

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<v Speaker 2>tough for the go for Golden State, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>count Golden State out. And then you have some not

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<v Speaker 2>so competitive series on the other end. But it's been

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and entertaining because it's been an upset, like the

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<v Speaker 2>Knicks and the Celtics, that's the three in the two seed,

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<v Speaker 2>but it looked as if the Celtics were gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the team to roll through the East, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even before Tatum got hurt, the Knicks got the best

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And then now you've got the Cavs, who

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<v Speaker 2>you know, are up against it down three to one,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, with their injuries, it looks like the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacers are going to roll. So yeah, the playoffs. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna act like it's been appointment viewing for me

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<v Speaker 2>every night, but I've been entertained by more so than

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<v Speaker 2>I was expecting. A right quick break will come back

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side and keep this thing rolling along.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot more to get into, including some college football stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so the ACC spring meetings are are going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not really sure what is happening at these

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<v Speaker 2>ACC spring meetings. But Bill Bellich was. He was there

419
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<v Speaker 2>and did a live hit on the ACC network. Although

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't I didn't, I didn't hear any of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do. See quote here courtesy of Bret McMurphy

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<v Speaker 2>who says UNC head coach Bill Belichick from the ACEC

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<v Speaker 2>spring meetings on his girlfriend Jordan Hudson. Quote, it's off

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<v Speaker 2>to the side, a personal relationship. She doesn't have anything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with North Carolina football. I'm excited to be

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<v Speaker 2>back in coaches meetings. End quote That that to me

427
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<v Speaker 2>is is Belichick doing this hit at the ACC spring meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be on Friday morning on Good Morning

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<v Speaker 2>America with straight hand. And I think Carolina had last

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<v Speaker 2>week when they had to put out the statement in

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<v Speaker 2>regards to Pablo Torre, who nobody's really disputing much of

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<v Speaker 2>anything other than that she's not welcome there. But the

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<v Speaker 2>statement they said is that she's she's welcome, but she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have anything to do with Carolina football yet. Prior

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<v Speaker 2>to this thing really creating a live of its own,

436
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it sounded if she was running the show,

437
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<v Speaker 2>running his life. So I think that's Belichick saying what

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<v Speaker 2>he needs to say to now let his bosses know, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this you know I'll do because he now has to

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<v Speaker 2>do some damage control on their behalf because there's really

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<v Speaker 2>nothing they can do now. I guess the question is

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<v Speaker 2>how how long does he do this without her getting

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<v Speaker 2>in the way again, because she very much clearly can't

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<v Speaker 2>stay out of the way, at least she hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>able to at this point. All Right, it's coffee and company.

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<v Speaker 2>Five two four four four thousand is the number. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got something that is a bigger deal, at

464
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<v Speaker 2>least in my opinion than it's being made out to be.

465
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<v Speaker 2>And that is that the NFL, they are tiptoeing towards

466
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<v Speaker 2>basically taken over football on television in America. And what

467
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<v Speaker 2>I mean by that is it is not a random

468
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<v Speaker 2>miscommunication or a random oh whoop, sorry, we didn't know

469
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<v Speaker 2>you already had a date set to play college football

470
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<v Speaker 2>playoff games on this date. Because the NFL, we now

471
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<v Speaker 2>know what the schedule release unveiling throughout the week, it'll

472
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<v Speaker 2>be totally out there tomorrow. But the NFL, they're gonna

473
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<v Speaker 2>have two games that's going to go up against the

474
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<v Speaker 2>college football playoff first round on Saturday. Is some of

475
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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth the Eagles and the Commanders and the Packers

476
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<v Speaker 2>and the Bears, which, by the way, two big games,

477
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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. So for those who don't know,

478
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<v Speaker 2>and this is something I learned about some years back,

479
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<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't aware of it when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 2>that the NFL there is an anti trust exemption that

481
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<v Speaker 2>was granted in nineteen sixty one by the Sports Broadcasting Act.

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<v Speaker 2>And what this does is it prohibits games on Fridays

483
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<v Speaker 2>and Saturdays from mid September to mid December to protect

484
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<v Speaker 2>college and high school football. Obviously, the December twentieth games

485
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<v Speaker 2>fault just outside that window. So I mean the NFL,

486
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<v Speaker 2>if they, you know, if they wanted to make a

487
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<v Speaker 2>change to this, I don't know how they would do

488
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<v Speaker 2>it as far as this anti trust exemption, But I

489
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<v Speaker 2>mean they've kind of played nice for a while understanding that,

490
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<v Speaker 2>you know, they have a really a free minor league,

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<v Speaker 2>don't they. I mean, like, the NFL benefits from college

492
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<v Speaker 2>football because they pick all their players from that route, right,

493
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<v Speaker 2>and they need those Like there's no scenario where the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL is ever gonna be like, yeah, you know, what

495
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<v Speaker 2>the hell with you college football. I'm gonna make an

496
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<v Speaker 2>enemy out of you, and I'm gonna have all these

497
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<v Speaker 2>high school players bypass college and then go play in

498
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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. That's not real it's not realistic. So I

499
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<v Speaker 2>think it's always made sense for them to want college

500
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<v Speaker 2>football to be healthy enough to where they can still

501
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<v Speaker 2>utilize it as their unofficial minor league. And and as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I mean, I can't think of any any

503
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<v Speaker 2>time where they've there's ever been any like conflict between scheduling,

504
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<v Speaker 2>and again it's because of this this this anti trust

505
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<v Speaker 2>act that's been in place since uh this is anti

506
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<v Speaker 2>trust exemption that has been put in place since nineteen

507
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<v Speaker 2>sixty one. So moving forward, I mean, I don't really

508
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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what it is they can and can't do

509
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<v Speaker 2>as it stands right now, but if it was there

510
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<v Speaker 2>was ever a situation where the NFL didn't have to

511
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<v Speaker 2>give a damn when anybody plays anything, I mean, they

512
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<v Speaker 2>would like, like, what if the NFL just had what

513
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<v Speaker 2>if it was a free for all, which it's not,

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<v Speaker 2>and the NFL just decided we're going to stretch our

515
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<v Speaker 2>season a lot longer than than how it currently sets up.

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<v Speaker 2>And because here's the NFL is such a monster and

517
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<v Speaker 2>it dominates so much that nobody would be able to

518
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<v Speaker 2>compete with it. And thankfully you rarely have situations where

519
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<v Speaker 2>you have to worry about competing with it, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA they have games on NFL Sundays, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's not when the NBA is believed to be in,

522
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<v Speaker 2>you know, big time watching. Like actually, the NBA on Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that's still hyped is a big day,

524
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<v Speaker 2>and I guess it still is for the NBA. But

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<v Speaker 2>now that the NFL is having games on Christmas, like,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's competing for second. And there'sn't wrong with that because again,

527
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<v Speaker 2>comparing yourself to the NFL, you're setting yourself up for

528
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<v Speaker 2>failure just because the NFL is just different. But I

529
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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like that didn't because again, if Louisville

530
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<v Speaker 2>somehow was in the College Football Playoff this year, which

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<v Speaker 2>you know it could happen, I'm not predicting it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they played in one of those first round games on

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<v Speaker 2>December twentieth, Let's say they get to host a game

534
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<v Speaker 2>something like that, it would feel like the biggest deal

535
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<v Speaker 2>in the world because it's the College Football Playoff and

536
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<v Speaker 2>clearly we'd be all into it because our team would

537
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<v Speaker 2>hypothetically of course be a part of it. But like

538
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<v Speaker 2>it would be pretty jarring to look back and realize

539
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<v Speaker 2>that as much as you know, it felt so special

540
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<v Speaker 2>to us, but man like, it didn't come close to

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<v Speaker 2>the viewership that you saw in the Eagles at Commanders

542
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<v Speaker 2>and the Packers at Bears, because again, the NFL is

543
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<v Speaker 2>just king in a while, you know, in a big way.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's the best way to uh, best way

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<v Speaker 2>to put it right real quick before we take a

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<v Speaker 2>time out. I want to get our last break out

547
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<v Speaker 2>of the way, so we have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>time before we close out the show. But when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the new ESPN app that they're uh, they're there,

550
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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's not just an app, but I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the new ESPN service, it's not really a new play.

552
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to call it. ESPN is now

553
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<v Speaker 2>trying is now going to offer the ESPN experience without

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<v Speaker 2>you having to have a cable subscription or a streaming

555
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<v Speaker 2>a separate streaming provider in order to utilize what they

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<v Speaker 2>offer on ESPN. But one of the new features here

557
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<v Speaker 2>and their new streaming app is going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>AI powered sports center for you feature or they're going

559
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<v Speaker 2>to use AI to tailor coverage to your preferences and

560
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<v Speaker 2>also track teams you root for and root against, so

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<v Speaker 2>like you can guess, go to sports Center within the app,

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll show you a version of sports Center that

563
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<v Speaker 2>I guess is custom for you. I have a hard

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<v Speaker 2>time seeing that working quite like the regular Sports Center experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. AI is a powerful, powerful thing,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe maybe I'm wrong when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, real quick, let's take a time out. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>come back again one more segment. I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>us a little more time than we typically have, just

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I want to finish strong here on

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<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday afternoon, keep it locked right here, it's Coffee

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<v Speaker 2>and Company field Beuth Thorton's on Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, but to Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton Talks

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<v Speaker 1>seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, we are wrapping up a Tuesday edition of

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<v Speaker 2>Coffee and Company. Fueld bout Thornton's here are on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety. You hear myself and Austin talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about gambling. We love doing that when it comes to,

579
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<v Speaker 2>you know, betting on sports and donating money to sports

580
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<v Speaker 2>books more often than not, at least on my favorite

581
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<v Speaker 2>hobby but do you play the lottery at all? Do I?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that means you do. Okay, so scratch off.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard this this crazy story about a Texas

584
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<v Speaker 2>lottery winner in twenty twenty three that is getting now

585
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<v Speaker 2>some some some coverage that's like controversial, you know at

586
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<v Speaker 2>all what I'm talking about because.

587
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<v Speaker 4>Now the last one we talked about was a Kentucky

588
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<v Speaker 4>one where the guy the police officer, yeah face.

589
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<v Speaker 2>Violated his parole right after you know, roughly right after

590
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<v Speaker 2>he ends up you know, winning a lot of money

591
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<v Speaker 2>to change his life. But anyways, check this out. This guy,

592
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<v Speaker 2>this this to me, you know, I'm mean truy my

593
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<v Speaker 2>bestic took to condense this story. But this has got

594
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<v Speaker 2>to have to be a documentary at some point. But

595
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<v Speaker 2>in twenty thirteen, there's a guy by the name of

596
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<v Speaker 2>Zelko Raganajovic probably not saying that right, but he's Australian

597
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<v Speaker 2>and he's known as the Joker. He is a big

598
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<v Speaker 2>sports better gambler, poker player, and he put together a

599
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<v Speaker 2>scheme to where he ended up winning a fifty seven

600
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<v Speaker 2>point eight million dollar jackpot in Texas. And it's it's

601
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<v Speaker 2>very controversial as far as the strategy to win the

602
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<v Speaker 2>Texas lottery that they went through. But it's legal. So

603
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<v Speaker 2>what he did is he purchased nearly all of the

604
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<v Speaker 2>possible number combinations and it ended up giving him, you know,

605
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<v Speaker 2>for example, he purchased twenty five point eight million dollars

606
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<v Speaker 2>in one dollar tickets, covering ninety nine point three percent

607
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<v Speaker 2>percent of all possible six number combinations. And he did

608
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<v Speaker 2>this very publicly. He wasn't doing it. I mean, he

609
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like out promoting it, but like he knew that

610
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<v Speaker 2>what he was doing was in fact not something that

611
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<v Speaker 2>would be viewed as you know, illegal. So he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up purchasing a bunch of I guess the machines that

613
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<v Speaker 2>like print these like. So for him to be able

614
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<v Speaker 2>to purchase twenty five point eight million dollars worth of

615
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<v Speaker 2>one dollar tickets, like, they had machines running like NonStop, like,

616
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<v Speaker 2>he was a very very extensive, you know plan and

617
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<v Speaker 2>in it in it's legal. So he ended up collaborating

618
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<v Speaker 2>with a big businessman in London and his company. He

619
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<v Speaker 2>partnered with lottery dot Com to facilitate the mass ticket purchases.

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<v Speaker 2>He set up operations in four different locations within Texas

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<v Speaker 2>using over one hundred ticket printing terminals to produce tickets

622
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<v Speaker 2>around the clock. He had QR codes and smartphones to

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<v Speaker 2>streamline the ticket printing process. I mean, he found a

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<v Speaker 2>way to get enough money together to you know, think

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<v Speaker 2>about it again, he had to purchase twenty five point

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<v Speaker 2>eight million dollars worth of lottery tickets in order to win.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the end he ended up winning the jackpot, yeah, doubled. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, it was a good investment. And again

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's been very controversial because it, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the both purchasing of lottery tickets is not illegal in Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Texas Line Commission has had to confirm that

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of times because everybody's claiming, how can this

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<v Speaker 2>be legal? How could he do this? Well, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not illegal, therefore it is legal to do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Texas Lieutenant Governor labeled the operation quote the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>theft from the people of Texas in the history of Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>The governor Greg Abbott, he ordered an investigation by the

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Rangers into it. There was story, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>Wall Street Journal did a story that really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>made it more of a nationally known thing. But I

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<v Speaker 2>still feel like, I mean, this is this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a I mean, again, he didn't do anything illegal,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would imagine they'll probably make some changes to

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<v Speaker 2>where this can't happen again, because this is somebody just

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<v Speaker 2>rounding up enough funding and getting the resources logistically needed

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<v Speaker 2>to buy as many tickets as possible, produce as many

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<v Speaker 2>tickets as possible. So again, he had the machines to

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<v Speaker 2>produce it, he had the money to fund the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of tickets, and they worked around the clock doing this

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<v Speaker 2>in order to wear Again, what was the number ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine point Marie, Yeah, nine yeah, ninety yeah, twenty chance

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<v Speaker 2>for I mean twenty five point eight million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>one dollar tickets was spent, covering ninety nine point three

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<v Speaker 2>percent of all possible six number combinations. So when you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to your partners to hit them up for money

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<v Speaker 2>about why they should invest, I mean, you're basically able

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<v Speaker 2>to tell them here's what we're going to do, here's

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<v Speaker 2>how we're going to do it. It's one thousand percent legal,

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<v Speaker 2>and at the end of the day, we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine point three percent chance of winning fifty seven

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<v Speaker 2>point eight million dollars I mean it's it's a brilliant idea, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not illegal. I mean it's not like they were

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<v Speaker 2>at that point. Dude, you kind of kind of earned it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh exactly, No, like it's money. And to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, he absolutely did. Like not only is it

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<v Speaker 2>was it hard to pull it off everything that's needed,

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<v Speaker 2>but to just have the you know, have the the

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<v Speaker 2>idea to do it, you know, to look into kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like what you could potentially do. And apparently the

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<v Speaker 2>real kicker that got him to where he was able

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<v Speaker 2>to do this was that there was a failing lottery

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<v Speaker 2>system like lottery dot com is now a failed entity

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<v Speaker 2>that apparently, you know, he was able to purchase all

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<v Speaker 2>these machines from because they were going out of business

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<v Speaker 2>and without that, he wouldn't have been able to print it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was the perfect storm for him. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>just thought that was interesting and it'll probably be a

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix documentary at some point or it should be all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll do it for us. We're out of time. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven ninety