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December sixteenth, the Digital Cougar Sports. Hopefully you having a

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fantastic one. We're gonna get into all the nukes and crannies,

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all the news and notes coming out of Brigham Uh.

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One of the things I'm gonna delve into today is

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possibly how the government, the legislature, the individuals on the

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political side of the realm and the academic side of

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things too, that the pro academia as well that subsidize

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these state run institutions, they may be trying to put

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a kibosh on private equity in sport. That's right, the

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ladies coming out of the private equity venture for many

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of these athletic departments that are trying to find an

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influx of cash and separate their athletic departments from the university.

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It may as a iconic sports analysts. Collegepotball analyst once

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said le Courso not so fast, Okay, some of these

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politicians getting involved here that don't want private equity in

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their sports and their state run institutions. So we'll delve

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obviously college football talk. Kalani Satake address the media about

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the Pop Tarts Bowl. You love to hear from Kolani Vision,

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Fans starting lineup and I can introduce you to my

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co host and the rest of the Star Stata cast

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joining us for this Tuesday, December sixteenth edition. Let's welcome

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in first and foremost executive producer, uh, the architect of

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the show. Let's welcome Ronald the three man Weaver. Was

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it Ronnie?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 5: Happy Tuesdays, everybody.

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Speaker 6: We're getting closer and closer to my favorite part of

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the show in the season where I get to play

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Christmas music.

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Speaker 5: Not there yet, but starting on Thursday, you'll definitely get

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we're getting into Christmas music time here on

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Cougar Sports for our band today. Let's also welcome in

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Brett always bringing the hammer, Hammer Time show Hammer. How

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the heck are you?

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Speaker 1: Fun?

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Speaker 3: Fact? My favorite Christmas song is by Maclamore.

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Speaker 7: By the way, Okay, Macklamore, I know what I just said, Maclamore.

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Speaker 3: Is it a remix? I know it's an original Christmas song?

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And you know what, may just have to be banned

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of the day. Hey, I send it over to its

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called It's Christmas Time. I've do multiple bands of the day.

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host today is probably already submitted his band of that,

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that's true. What the big band of the day guy,

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and I'm sure he's happy that it's finally come into

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the great state of Utah's who come in Brandon Sea, Gurney,

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the Grenade, the g man, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: I hope it's appreciated that I'm here.

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Speaker 8: And let me tell you why I was taking a

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and co host And guess what I decided?

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Speaker 8: I decided to be here. So I might be a

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like right underneath my my condo, right, that's not mine. Sure,

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Speaker 4: Let's go. Band of the day. Ronnie asked me about this.

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Speaker 4: Going to be Nick Nicks now, so I don't even

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Speaker 3: Well, no, no, I think we should No, No, we're

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gonna we can do a little Christmas on the back end.

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Speaker 5: If I ask you and you give it to me,

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He'll he'll be delving into that here moment.

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Speaker 8: It will be from the nineteen eighties and it will

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be spectacular.

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Speaker 3: It will it shall be. Guys, check out the rest

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of our ESPN the Fans starting lineup. We got a

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great show for you here in the nitty Griddy will

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the main adversity that this Cougar football team faced this

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season and uh and why we'll get into some Jake

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from the logo and uh man, it was a great

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interview from what I've gotten now. You know, so everybody

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knows Britt always bringing the hammer, our digital content creator

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the Indoks and Granny's. You probably provided more information than

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your experience like at Buou? We weren't even really planning

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on talk him about it, but he was so open

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for from the logo with Jimmi Fredett, so you can

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is I'm monitoring all of our comments on x and

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of that podcast is positivity, love, just talking ball, and

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get some really nasty comments like I hate to freedom

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of speech people, but I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Nix that and I'm gonna be deleting comments.

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Speaker 7: Sure, And I was expecting it to be about fifty

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to fifty half and half half people who love Jake

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and half people who hate Jake. And I think I

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and just celebrate a guy who played at Buyu. You know,

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once a cougar, always a cougar. We're gonna see him

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play this weekend and we're happy for him.

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ill will towards Jake. If anything, Jake has every right

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and saying hey, didn't work out is one of the

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great decisions in your life. Is one of the best

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here at b YU. You got a seven game suspension

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for violating the Hotter Code. Uh and and you have

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to take your your medicine. Now was it too much?

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moral ethical stand that they that they have regarding the

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individuals that come from different cultures and different standards, they

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all sign up for it. So that's always the retort.

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You're gonna have to pay the penance, right, only the

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penitent man will pass at Brigham and so you got

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to take your seven game suspension. But that being said,

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BYU fans getting negative towards individuals that leave is if

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they go out and they're negative towards BYU. They're like, hey,

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I got screwed. They treated me unfair. If that was

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the rhetoric coming from Jake and he was like ungrateful

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for the opportunity and like, hey, they screwed me over

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they judged me too harshly. I felt like this whole

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situation was unfair, then you would see probably more of

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this clandestine retaliatory like negativity right right, Like, but Jake

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has done this with class, and and b YU fans,

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to their credit, have also reflected that class. I mean,

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you said a handful of like, hey, you know a

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towards the civil the civil rape case and say hey,

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you know, typically Utah fans and maybe even some bway

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fans would maybe comment that why would you highlight someone

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that has been accused of such? And there was some

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guilty until proven innocent, there was some holier than now, well,

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the Church of Jesus Christ Latin the Saints, we don't

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support this kind of behavior, and like there were two

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Speaker 7: The other thing that I want to tease about Jake

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is I never felt like we got a fully direct

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answer on how in the world this whole transfer exactly worked.

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Speaker 3: I never felt like I fully.

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Speaker 7: Understand that Jake gives the exact details on how he

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was able to transfer and play, and it's some pretty

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cool and exciting sets and.

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Speaker 3: How he had to walk on. You just wonder the

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timing of the civil suit too. It's like, hey, wow,

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Before we get into this SoundBite, I over the last

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five years, BYU has had a pretty gosh staying good

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run of it. Eleven and one in the COVID year

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ten and three in twenty twenty one, in PAC twelve

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South Champions twenty twenty two, a little bit of a drop,

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but you gotta win over SMU in the Bowl game

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eight and five. You finished off to quota. I would

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say that's finishing quota. You win eight games, that's quota

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in BYU football history. You go five and seven in

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your first year in the Big twelve. But you were

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right there on the cusp of beating Oklahoma and Oklahoma State,

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right you saw the potential. Now you go back to

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seasons of eleven and two and eleven and two, and

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we know as a recruiting guru that you are g men,

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it takes a minute, you know, like from recruiting class

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to productivity. How many years does it take to see

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the the the fruits of a recruiting class. Typically for BYU,

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at least three years at least least.

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Speaker 4: But more often than not four I'd say four years.

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Speaker 3: Four years is when you see the fruits of it.

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Speaker 4: Four.

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Speaker 3: So the twenty twenty class, you look at that study

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and you're like, Okay, that's what you're gonna get in

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twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five. Right, yeah, so

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this is the crazy thing. Look at this, Look at

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this recruiting class. I was to me, right, like are

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they blown away? So BYU went eleven and two with

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this recruiting class.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is this is just go ahead,

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I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like read through it like your headliner's body. Scoonover, who

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balled out this year, had a great, great season, just awesome, Yeah,

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really played well. The lowest rated player in the class

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is Sioni Moa, who I just leave is a pretty

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good player, right, pretty good player. But go down the list,

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what stands out tog Man as this is the eightieth

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rate class in college football twenty twenty.

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Speaker 8: I'll be honest, I've covered, I've put a lot of

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lipstick on pigs over my years. Right, this might be

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the single worst class I've ever seen as far as

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what panned out. I mean, as a kid to Broncomannenholl's

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twenty eleven class, that was a bad class.

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Speaker 3: Was it really? I don't know if you remember, I'll

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pull it up just as a remember.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm misspoke.

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Speaker 8: I think it was the class after Jake Keeps It

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was like Bronco just ah, no, I'm not doing this

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this thing anymore.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting my age, right, Yeah, yeah, look that up.

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Speaker 4: I think it's twenty eleven.

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Speaker 8: I could be wrong on that, but this class what's remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Body Schoonover, Taate Romney, Logan Peelee, Alex Mootie, Askalfusi, michaeh. Harper,

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Josh Wilson, Harper should have been really good, Sol j

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Maiava Peters, Isaiah Perez, Josh Larson, Nukoluvii, Hilou PD two

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Polo two, John Nelson, Jock Wilson, Typer Cody Epps, Kevin Downing,

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Preston Rex, Miles, Davis, CoA Eldridge, J griff and Christopher Jackson,

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Terrence Fall, Dean Jones, Heinkluapati.

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Speaker 8: That is amazing just how many of those guys claimed out.

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And I thought a lot of these guys were gonna

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be good. I thought Devin Downing was gonna be a

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really good receiver. I thought he was. I thought Jock

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Wilson was.

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Speaker 3: He's currently at su U, I believe, and everyone loved

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the one right there.

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Speaker 8: Didn't pan out Josh Wilson, uhhs.

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Speaker 3: Man, I can't. No, he's gonna be good.

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Speaker 4: Is gonna be good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tate Romney is in the portal. He went to

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su He was the second highest rated player.

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Speaker 8: But what's remarkable about that class and what gives you

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optimism is how much a class like that can be overcome,

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especially in this era of nil transfer portal, because that's

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when a really kicked in gear. After this twenty twenty

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signing class. Yeah, if that hadn't come about b way,

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you could be in some pretty sticky circumstances. Sure now,

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because it's really, really hard to miss that bad on

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any given class, and asne for in time where you're

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at the cost and you're competing for a big twelve championship,

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given that as your foundation for what for what you

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are right now? So yeah, that tells you right there

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the B Way you has done very well in the

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transfer portal, that recruiting has really ticked up.

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Speaker 4: But it also means this b we use a young program.

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Speaker 8: I think if you look at that and you just

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maybe take the contributors that are that are out there,

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what's coming is excited. It's really really exciting, and it's

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gonna be interesting when I'm co hosting the show getting

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up from a nap and we're talking about the twenty

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twenty sixth recruiting class, how that panned out. Yeah, I mean,

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everyone of these things, it's gonna be fantastic.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be fantastic. Right, but I'll bet

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it's good.

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Speaker 8: I'll bet we look back at what B Way you

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signed this year or this coming years. It's always confusing

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to me, but this is technically the twenty twenty sixth class.

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I think it's gonna be a foundational class. I think

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it's gonna be something that we haven't seen before. I've

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gotten to know these kids, I've talked to them. I

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think there it's going to be a special special.

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Speaker 3: Group the twenty twenty sixth class.

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 8: And the guy that I just think about over and

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over again when I think about this class is Juni Moala.

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It's just about as good as a defensive line prospect.

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I've seen b what you sign, I don't want to

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say ever, but kind of ever, and he presents himself

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extremely well, this is what you need, this is what

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you need going for uh supplement that line play.

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Speaker 4: But but yeah, that most are just kind of my

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thoughts with that.

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Speaker 3: Goo ahead, keep going, keep going, right, those are just okay,

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I'm done, right, We're done. Yeah, So yes, it just

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I guess the thesis that I have here before I

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headed over Ronnie, is you know it's four to five

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years before I think you truly see the fruits of

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recruiting classes for BYU if you're a b WU fan.

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And what's crazy is you went eleven and two essentially

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with your twenty twenty recruiting class. And I granted you

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know you have transfer portal, you have JUCO transfers, all

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those things, right.

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Speaker 8: That to bet at least half those guys aren't even

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in the program anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look least yeah, I mean you can

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go down the list of guys, right. So it's like

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Bodie's a baller, Tate Rodney's an issue now back in

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the portal. Logan Peeley transfer to Utah State. Alex Moutie

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never arrived and I don't think he ever played ASCAFU season.

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The two deep at linebacker Michael Harper's at Montana was

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a good player until he ruptured his He had two

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knee ines. Really, it's really be he was gonna he

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was really good by the way, Yeah, Micah, that was

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a really, in my opinion, a really nice pick up.

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He was a good football player this season. He's got

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forty I believe he's got forty one tackles if I'm

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not mistaken. Let's see here, forty one total tackles and

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I think a force fumble and two iron t's. So

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he's a starter for the grizz that's thirteen and one

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right now. Good for him, really, you know, he's so

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he's he's bounced back. That's it. That was a That

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was a nice pick up for me going Josh Wilson.

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I thought he could have been good, just never got

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into the rotation. Sol Jamiovia Peters was more of an

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athlete than a than a quarterback. Went to New Mexico.

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Isaiah Perez transferred to Eastern Washington. I don't know how

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Isaiah has done there. He's the nephew of Eddie Kill,

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former BYU offensive lineman left tackle.

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Speaker 8: Wasn't Josh Larson about to merge and then he had

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some injury and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was, he was starting good reps.

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Isaiah Perez didn't log any stats. Uh this per ESPN,

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so he's maybe playing. He's on the roster, but didn't

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log any stats. Josh Larson really never played. Nukuluvihilo, didn't

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really play PD two Polo two. I think is still

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on the roster. At the way he was as a safety,

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I believe.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Then the Salem sam.

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Speaker 3: Man John Nelson's maybe one of the best in the

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start of the like and he was a three star rank.

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He was like ranked super low.

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Speaker 4: He was really good for b Waite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jock Willison, Jock Wilson got injured. The Salem Salmon was,

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you know, arguably the best. Cody Apps was good for

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a season before some injuries happened to him. Devin Downing

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I think is at SUU. Preston Rex is in the

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three four deep at running back. Miles Davis started for

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Utah State at running back. But so he would have

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been nice to have this season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what a nice to have.

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Speaker 3: Cooba Eldridge played special teams at why at at Hawaii,

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Jake Griffins and the portal. Now from b YU, he's

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got two years of elgie. Billy Chris Jackson ended up

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transferring to Hawaii and then trying to come back to BYU.

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Terrence Fall had an ACL injury and then never really

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saw the field and answered the portal and then I

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think he just gave up on football. Dean Jones went

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to Northern Colorado. H heinkle were Patti. That was a

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nice pick up, a nice pickup. And then you also

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had at the at the very bottom of this twenty

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twenty class. Other players that were included Isaiah Tupo who

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never arrived at BAU two A Polo to Lai never arrived.

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Bruce Garrett showed up for two practices and then quit.

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Do you remember that? Yeah, I do remember the Pleasant

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Grove running. He was really good. I liked him a lot. Jerrasonjvea.

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I don't think he ever got into the program. Cit

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ALINGI havea I don't, I don't. I don't know if

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SLINGI ever showed up either. And then DeVonta Henry Cole

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was supposed to show up and then he left, and

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I think he ended up at like Utah State if

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I'm not mistake. So anyway, isn't that crazy enough? Ronald

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your thoughts? I know I went off on a bit

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of a tangent here and then nitty gritty, but I

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thought with g Man here that I'd go off on

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a bit of a tangent about recruiting and how it

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takes four to five years to see the fruits of

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a recruited class. And he went eleven and two and

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eleven and two with the twenty twenty recruit class, and

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a lot of them didn't every like, most of them

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didn't pan out.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I know that.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's the nature of college athletics, right, Guys

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don't pan out like that and then walk on's like

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Tanner Wall do look at me? And it goes both

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ways with the guys that you pick up maybe guys

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you thought, yeah, this guy's not really gonna get an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Tyla Alsio was another guy, right, Ben.

471
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Speaker 6: Sometimes you can even make an argument that maybe the

472
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guys that walk on came just have just so good

473
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a career as the guys that are signed.

474
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Speaker 1: Now.

475
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Speaker 6: I just wanted to go to Gurney's point, Junie Mwala. Look,

476
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I'm not, you know, an elder at all. You know,

477
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maybe the junior I could be. But if you call

478
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me mister Weaver, first of all, you remember my last name,

479
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and you call me mister, that's unacceptable.

480
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Speaker 5: Don't call me that, Don't call me sir.

481
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Speaker 6: But that, like, the kid carries himself as if he's

482
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already at the next level. Like and GM Man had

483
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:02,599
made a comment comparing him to another guy on the

484
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roster while we were talking off record.

485
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Speaker 5: I'll let him make that take. But he remembers who

486
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you are.

487
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Speaker 6: And I thought that was just pretty impressive because we

488
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called a game here earlier in high school football and

489
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he was dominating in that game. So I agree with

490
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gim and I think that guy is going to have

491
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a great career at BYU if he stays healthy. Uh

492
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and they need into your alignment right now. You don't

493
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know what's going to happen with it with Keanu. You

494
00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:24,839
know you're gonna get Justin Kirkland back. JT's going to

495
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have another year, so you need depth right there. So

496
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I like what they have coming in at that position.

497
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Speaker 8: Well, he's going on a mission and accord to coach Reynolds,

498
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he believes that he could join b Wayu's team tomorrow

499
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and be in the rotation.

500
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Speaker 4: He really does.

501
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Speaker 3: He and he and he told me this.

502
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Speaker 8: The only other player that I've coached that I would

503
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say that about was Pooka Nkul where Pooka could go

504
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:53,240
on to college team as a senior in high school

505
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and play.

506
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he firmly believes Judy Waller could do that.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

508
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Speaker 8: He compared him to Body Scoon over. Body's has been

509
00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:03,920
awesome this year. We all agree on he's very good.

510
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:09,039
Judy could do what what what Body's been doing this year.

511
00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:13,119
I'm not going to doubt that. But the thing he

512
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,240
had with Juny is he's established his alignment. Body's been

513
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a huge project. I mean, you look at that it

514
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was six we thought tight end linebacker d All Wait

515
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He's gonna be kind of that ibrid guy. It took

516
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:28,480
him a while to find his position. I think he's

517
00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:30,960
gonna be fantastic next year. He was really good this year.

518
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,759
He improved every game. Very high on Body's schoonover. But

519
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:36,480
what you're gonna get with Judy Mowala is a guy

520
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that's ready to contribute and give you that level play,

521
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,279
probably as a true freshman. And and that's what you're

522
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gonna have with this class. It's just guys that could

523
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come in and compete almost immediately.

524
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Speaker 4: And that's just one of them.

525
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 3: Kawaia Khana Body was second on the team at SECKS.

526
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about that.

527
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 8: I mean everyone was about Telsea Lee Khana, Tomoy Baile

528
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and I love those guys.

529
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,799
Speaker 3: They're really good and tackles with thirty three three sacks

530
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,599
and he had three passes defended too, So he's he's

531
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number he's number five on the team and passes defended.

532
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he's been he's he's starting to get more

533
00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:20,160
and more reps with every game.

534
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've noticed that he's one of the more established guys.

535
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:25,079
He's got a fantastic year.

536
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Speaker 8: Yeah, phenomenal. So, yeah, it takes a while for some

537
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,599
of these guys. I mean, he was he was basically nowhere.

538
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:30,839
Speaker 3: I was.

539
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 8: I was really high on body coming out of high school,

540
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,799
and I was what's going on there? But I remember

541
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,400
a quote Gary An. It was about Gary Anderson, but

542
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:45,119
Jay heel it was kind of a propaganda quote that

543
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,319
he wanted to put out there, but it was one

544
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,519
hundred percent true. He says, if you're a defensive lineman,

545
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,359
what better coaching is there in the country, then you

546
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,559
will receive here at B White. You we have Pula,

547
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,759
we have Gary Andrews and Gary Anderson, Chad k Kelly Popping.

548
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,799
I mean, and you've seen that their development of Body,

549
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,359
figuring out what he is and developing that. That's really

550
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,160
good work, really really good work. And of course Body

551
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:21,720
deserves most of the credit in that regard. He's been patient,

552
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,240
willing to work through it. But yeah, when you have

553
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,039
guys that are ready to come in from the get

554
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,400
go and that don't need as much development to arrive

555
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:34,440
to that level of play, that's going to be exciting.

556
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: And I've said this continuably that's.

557
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,759
Speaker 8: The mist still the missing piece with b What you

558
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,440
is truly that dominating play on that defensive and maybe

559
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:46,039
do a lesser degree offensive front once B where you

560
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,079
can figure that out, that's when you're reaching the next year.

561
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,079
Speaker 4: Yep, that's the final piece.

562
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 8: And it's weird to me because I thought that's what

563
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:55,519
the way you would figure out first that it's kind

564
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:59,279
of been that back end secondary is really good right now, linebacker,

565
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,640
you knew the linebackers were gonna He's always had good linebackers.

566
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,480
But yeah, once that line play gets up the snuff,

567
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,160
especially that defensive line.

568
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,759
Speaker 4: Because there's still kind of it's still kind of a

569
00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:10,160
patchwork thing. Let's be honest.

570
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,079
Speaker 8: They still don't have that dominating thing where they can

571
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,759
run a forty front and just have rotating tackles that

572
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,599
can come in and.

573
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 4: Just smash guys and overwhelm B. Where he still doesn't

574
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:19,720
have that.

575
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still running a thirty front, guys, that's well,

576
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:25,039
they're running a forty front two A lot of times

577
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,759
it's not just not it's not it's mostly I'd say

578
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:28,400
it's multiple.

579
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 4: It's multiple, but I think it's mostly thirty.

580
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: Shoot off a text and get some some Maybe.

581
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, man, I I stepped in it right here.

582
00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:44,119
Speaker 8: No, last year it was more thirty tench huh, but yeah,

583
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,160
but yeah, this year, I think just because of count

584
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,519
a ton of.

585
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:50,079
Speaker 4: OASA they've been able to do that more effectively. Last

586
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,400
year they just didn't have the numbers.

587
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 8: But but that's kind of the point is you're bringing

588
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,319
in more count of ton of OASA type talents, you're

589
00:28:57,359 --> 00:28:59,000
gonna be able to fill that out and go more

590
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:02,440
forty front, kind of go with that base that you envision.

591
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,519
So yeah, it's it's exciting what Bayu has in store

592
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:08,960
this twenty twenty six class.

593
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: Just looking at every single recruit, it's.

594
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,559
Speaker 8: A and you're looking at the scores, it's like a

595
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:17,000
bunch of eighty one eighty two's back in that class

596
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:20,200
this year it's like, oh eighty seven, that's one of

597
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:21,839
the lower rated guys.

598
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: There's four star guys. There wasn't a single four star

599
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:25,759
in that.

600
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: I also think there's more accuracy in the ratings.

601
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:31,759
Speaker 4: Yes, now, a lot more accuracy.

602
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: So I think you're you're much more excited about the

603
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,319
prospects of getting a four star this day and age

604
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,400
even than you were in the past, because it's it's

605
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,119
more accurate. Yeah, you may have been a highly productive

606
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,119
football player back in twenty ten and received a high

607
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,839
three star, four star, but you know, you may have

608
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:53,000
peaked in high school.

609
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,559
Speaker 8: And also, how good is the tight end position going

610
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:55,799
to be?

611
00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, gears, fuck goodness.

612
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: Young and you're you know, here's a little gem for

613
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:04,440
you a little or maybe i'll tease it on the

614
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,240
back end, there's probably a former four star tight end

615
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:10,720
that will transfer to b YU here short.

616
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: I have heard that. Yeah, so I've heard that.

617
00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:16,359
Speaker 3: I mean we've talked about we've been flirtatious with it

618
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,359
over the years, in the last two years. If you

619
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:22,640
think about it, you know, yeah, you know, if you know,

620
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:25,759
you know, yeah, we've we've we've flirted with it and

621
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,880
been very uh.

622
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,839
Speaker 4: It's pretty obvious.

623
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you could get another four star tight end

624
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,720
rolling through provo here shortly. And you think of like

625
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,400
rein Or Swanson coming back from his mission. You got

626
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:39,400
Brock Harris Company. He's gonna be serving a mission and

627
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,240
he'll be coming back after maybe a year or so.

628
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,680
You know what.

629
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:43,559
Speaker 4: The g man loves.

630
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 8: He loves that twenty two formation twenty two personnel.

631
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: There's no twenty two for me. Yeah, I was going

632
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:50,599
to say that if that's not a thing.

633
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the I like the twenty one. I

634
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,759
like the twenty one you like you like that personnel grouping?

635
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, double tight double the like you know, I'm all

636
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,640
about that double.

637
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,079
Speaker 3: What do you like better? Twelve or twenty two personnel?

638
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,720
Twelve twelve yeah, one back two tight ends? Yeah right right,

639
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,440
just remember being those you know, I will remind many

640
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:19,000
people and like, uh, you know one of the the

641
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,000
former glory eras. You know, my era six to nine

642
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,599
we had a lot of twenty two personnel, you know,

643
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:32,640
Foie Manase, Curtis Brown Manase, Harvey Manase, and then you

644
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:37,720
had Dennis Pitta Andrew George. You had Johnny Harlen, Tam Coats.

645
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,079
Speaker 4: You know what I mean that Coats Harlen.

646
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: Oh that was nice, very nice dynamic, very nice dynamic.

647
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,599
Let's take a brief time out welcome back with that

648
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that that that four star tight end, and also we'll

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get into the Kalanisake sound and the adversity that he

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get into a SoundBite adversity Kalani Satake discussing adversity this season.

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You're saying, like, whoa, wait, what adversity is he talking about?

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What type ofversity is is he pontificating on? He was

702
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asked a question a little bit about his his team,

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his season.

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Speaker 1: This was his response, It'll be a it'll be a

705
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,440
competitive game, but and anything.

706
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 9: Just really excited for the overall experience, the work that

707
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,880
we get to do in the bull prep and I

708
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,079
think it helps us develop as a program, and there's

709
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,280
no better place to do it than than in Orlando, Florida.

710
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: I thought we had a great year.

711
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 9: I mean it was it was a lot of adversity,

712
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,079
and I think the main adversity was Texas Tech.

713
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: They're a great team.

714
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 9: You know, we lost to them twice and the obviously

715
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:23,920
once in Lubbock and then another one in the championship game.

716
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,320
But really proud of the guys and the way they played.

717
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,239
I mean we won eleven games two years in a row,

718
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,800
and so the seniors have a lot to be proud

719
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,639
of and the leadership and our team. But what helped

720
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,400
last year was actually taking the advantage of the bull

721
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,320
prep and the practices that we had.

722
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: And so the program is still in development.

723
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 9: We still have a lot of young guys that still

724
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,559
need to did to get there and get them over

725
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:48,239
the edge and becoming great. And I think this is

726
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:50,840
utilizing the practices will be a key for all that happening.

727
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,599
But I think there's a lot of teams that probably

728
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,400
could could make a case for themselves. And you know,

729
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,760
there's there's a lot of guys then programs that are

730
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,480
really proud of what they were able to comp this year.

731
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:04,159
And so there's definitely a lot more well deserving teams

732
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:08,519
than twelve. But when it's all said and done, I'm

733
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:10,519
not on the committee, but the committee it's not that's

734
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,119
not an easy job for them to do. And you

735
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,599
they they make the selection and you just live with

736
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,320
it and and the uh, you know, the consequences that

737
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,599
we get to go to Orlando, Florida and play in

738
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,320
the Pop Tarts Bowl. So that's not that's not anything

739
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,119
to be sad about. So our guys are really excited

740
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,159
about it. This isn't this isn't a consolation prizes. When

741
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:33,400
we went into the season, not a lot of people

742
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,360
thought we would win even eleven games. We wanted to

743
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,800
extend our season. We did it with one extra game,

744
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,119
and then now we get to do it with another.

745
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,840
Last year we did we had one bowl game in

746
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,880
the Automo Bawl against Colorado, and this year we played

747
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,639
the championship game.

748
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: Didn't go our way, but we get to play in

749
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:49,079
this game too.

750
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,639
Speaker 9: So, I mean, we extended the season with two games,

751
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:54,159
and and you know, we want wanted to be more

752
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:55,480
than that, but we got to be thankful for what

753
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,400
we've accomplished and where we're at to and stay humble

754
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,119
and just be be happy and satisfied with what we're doing,

755
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:02,960
and then be happy for everybody else that got into

756
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,239
the playoffs. I think this is a good chance for

757
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,880
us to see some amazing football, especially coming up this weekend.

758
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,960
And you know, I wish all the twelve teams best

759
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,360
of luck in the playoffs.

760
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,199
Speaker 3: All right. A couple of nice nuggets there from Kalani

761
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,840
Satake is he is? He was made available for the

762
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,920
Pop Tarts Ball media availability. What do you make of

763
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,400
a g man?

764
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 8: If you would have told me be where you would

765
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,280
get eleven wins in mid August.

766
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 4: I'm not believing you.

767
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 8: Sure, I'm defining you as the most glue goggled, unrealistic fan. Yeah,

768
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,199
I mean good for you, pat on the head. Yeah,

769
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,400
you love your Cougars. But no, this ain't happening, and

770
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:43,920
it's all about quarterback. What b what you was able

771
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:50,199
to do with Bear Bachmeyer? I don't think fans probably

772
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920
take it for granted right now? What b where you

773
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,519
had to overcome develop He didn't have spring ball, he

774
00:37:57,639 --> 00:37:58,280
had nothing.

775
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:02,119
Speaker 4: He came in fresh. Smart guys like me were saying, yeah,

776
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:05,159
I like it, but there's no way, There's absolutely no way.

777
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,280
He doesn't have the timetable necessary.

778
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 8: What Bear Bochbeyer did this year, in conjunction with Aaron Roderick,

779
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,079
is one of the greatest offensive developments I've ever seen

780
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,199
since I've been covering B What you maybe number one?

781
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:22,360
I could absolutely argue that is number one. That is

782
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,280
the number one offensive development I've ever seen since I

783
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,159
started covering.

784
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: Bway Fly And who do you give me another one?

785
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Give me another one that that's even close to meet?

786
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:33,239
You know, who do you give credit to?

787
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,519
Speaker 1: Then?

788
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 4: Bear?

789
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: Bear? You give it to Bear Bear primarily for sure. Okay,

790
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,840
so he gets the chart of credit billions, Yes, and

791
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,239
then and then Aaron Roderick. Okay, l J Martin's third

792
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,559
because if LJ is not doing what he did, Bear

793
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:50,480
can't do what. They can't bring Bear along in that

794
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:56,360
regard LJ being what that stallion that he was all year,

795
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,800
he was the offense that took a lot of necessary

796
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,079
ush're off a Bear to allow him to develop and

797
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:04,920
become the quarterback he was.

798
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:07,599
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think LJ deserves a ton of credit

799
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,679
for what happened, a ton of credit.

800
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: Tons of credit.

801
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 8: But but yeah, i'd go bear a rod LJ. Plus

802
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,519
LJ is back there walking him, yeah, making hot reads.

803
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,559
Look at the first games, I mean LG's.

804
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 4: We got this.

805
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, this guy's coming. LG was kind of a slash

806
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:28,280
quarterback involved.

807
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: It does help that we have an intercom system. Now, yeah,

808
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:37,199
you know, so I will you know what I mean,

809
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,280
Like when we talk about development, we talk of like,

810
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,000
could you imagine I think ty Detmer would have been

811
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:48,840
a much better offensive coordinator with an intercom system? Why, well,

812
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,239
you can literally do it A check with me offense

813
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,519
and he's TFD. He sees he's TFD. He sees everything,

814
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,880
you know what I mean, Like you can do a

815
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,199
check with me offense, and he's communicating with Taysum and

816
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,599
Tanner and it's it's a whole lot easier because he's

817
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:06,840
able to communicate all the way after the freaking snap,

818
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,679
almost all the way. I think I can't remember what

819
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,119
at what point does it cut off? Like three seconds,

820
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,840
four seconds remaining? I think it's closer to ten is

821
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,840
it ten seconds remaining? So, like you know what I mean, So,

822
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:23,639
like you're right, that would have helped. That helps. Yeah, so,

823
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,679
but to your point, it's probably one of the, if

824
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:36,480
not the most impressive offensive like accelerate offensive developments when

825
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:40,559
you consider no spring Ball, when you consider that, like, yeah,

826
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,559
he recruited him, had a relationship with him to a

827
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,440
degree coming out of high school. But you know he

828
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:48,800
entered the portal and then he was there at B White.

829
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 8: Sometimes I say irresponsible things and then I consider I'm like, no,

830
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:54,559
that I've been going through my mind.

831
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I was spot on here. I'm holding to

832
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:58,159
that statement.

833
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,119
Speaker 8: Hold to it right, hold the It is the most

834
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,119
impressive offensive development I've ever seen a B wave.

835
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,199
Speaker 3: You give me another what about Doug Scoville because everyone

836
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:10,480
don't go no, see you know what I mean.

837
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:13,679
Speaker 4: No, I'm cutting you off from the time I started,

838
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,159
no question. No, we can't go back.

839
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: Who's the No we can't who's we were back? Who's

840
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,519
the best oc all time in BA football history? And

841
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,480
that I hear all the blue Hairs, Dog Scholville nineteen

842
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:31,800
seventy six, nineteen seventies, all that Scholville and then in

843
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,280
nineteen seventy nine and nineteen eighty you know that was

844
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,639
the best offense ever. Well, yeah, you had Jim McMahon helped.

845
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,599
You were doing things that nobody else had ever seen,

846
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,280
or no one had v VHS tapes of like your

847
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:48,880
your film. They weren't sharing film like they are now.

848
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 8: The Gurneys sat in Portal eg Sex, and let me

849
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:54,400
tell you something about Portal xSex. You know everybody that's

850
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,679
open sitting there. Everybody. Yeah, everybody was open.

851
00:41:58,599 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 4: All the time.

852
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,039
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, even as a young kid, I could just

853
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:05,159
take your pick. Yeah, there's two three guys wide open

854
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,599
every single time. What Bayu was running was so advanced.

855
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:10,440
And we don't need a pontificate on this because everyone

856
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:13,440
knows that everyone's bien quoting it was so far ahead

857
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:13,840
of the game.

858
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,519
Speaker 3: Everyone was running literally like a bear front or a

859
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,039
fifty front and cover three. Yeah, like even into the nineties,

860
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,639
guys ty Detmer went up against a ton of cover three.

861
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,360
So just to give you, let me just all break

862
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:34,800
down real simp cover three. It's five down linemen three linebackers.

863
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:41,440
Think of the linebackers as Brian Bosworth neck rolls, big strong,

864
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,639
linear guys that fill a gaps.

865
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,119
Speaker 4: Shoulder pads that are almost head they can't cover with.

866
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: A leg, and then three one one free slash strong safety,

867
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,559
and then two corners and you're running four verts versus

868
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,559
versus that four verticals, you're gonna win. There's gonna be

869
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:05,320
a guy. Bit at least one there's gonna be a guy.

870
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,920
And like no one changed, like because nobody else was

871
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000
doing it right, so everyone started to do it later on.

872
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,880
So anyways, the reason why I bring that up is

873
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,639
is kind of interesting because Okay, so Klane had some

874
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,039
nuggets there, Uh talked about Texas Tech. It sucks that

875
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,719
b way you had to play Texas Tech this year.

876
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,559
They could have played any other team this season. It

877
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:29,880
would have been great to like pick pick anybody. It

878
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,840
would have been great to play Kansas State, right, it's

879
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,960
pretty good, yeah, but it would have been great because

880
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,480
then you're in the playoff anybody else in the conference.

881
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,880
You're in the College Football Playoff this season, like you

882
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,280
really are. Why because even if you lost to a

883
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,199
s U on the road, say you played ASU again,

884
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,039
let's say you played them at home and you're lost

885
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:54,159
by like a field goal or something like that, then

886
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,960
you're one lost team and you get to the Then

887
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,480
the committee's main arguments gone, you know, yeah, and then

888
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,039
you lose to Tech. You know, I don't know, it

889
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:04,840
would have been interesting, like could you you probably if

890
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,880
you lost to Tech and that was your only loss

891
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,320
by twenty one, twenty two, twenty you know what I mean?

892
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:15,000
Do you get in? Probably? You probably get in. You

893
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:18,440
probably get in then. So anyway, it's a come full

894
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,239
circle here. You gotta give credit to the offense for

895
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,039
stepping up and doing what they did because nobody thought

896
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:27,119
that that would happen after losing Jake Retzlough. And now

897
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,239
Jake is going to the coallf Football Player. Good for him.

898
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,840
Karma is a is a female Kanaan. Guys. Yeah, what

899
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,440
Karma did you speak of it just is you know

900
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,639
what I mean, Like we put we ousted him, and

901
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,440
he didn't even get a scholarship to Tulane and he

902
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:44,719
gets to the colleg football playoff and look by you

903
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,880
had a great season, you know, and then a marvelous season.

904
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,519
Uh And kudos to Bear, kudos to l J, kudos

905
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:56,079
to a Rod uh and the offensive line tremendous job.

906
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,280
How about Carson Ryan, Like, I mean, goodness, gracious, yeah,

907
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:03,880
I'm surprised you didn't mentioned with all your twelve personnel,

908
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:06,480
you know, twelve personnel infatuation.

909
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,679
Speaker 4: Are we ready to segue into this mystery four star

910
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,239
tight end?

911
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,119
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well real quick, real quick, Like okay, fine, out,

912
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:15,760
we can segue, but then I want to recap it

913
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,920
with another question here at the end of it.

914
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,119
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, the thing is Carson Ryan. When he when

915
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:25,199
I was going to come, it's like, oh, he's that malcontent.

916
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,559
I'm just being honest, that just can't fit and the

917
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,199
program he's just not able to meld. Oh he's probably

918
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,000
got attitude issues. No, he was perfect for what be

919
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:40,519
what you needed. He was so good and b why

920
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:42,960
he didn't really have that established framework of a tight

921
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:46,039
end being that significant of a part in this offense.

922
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:50,360
I mean it was it was all hypothetical, theoretical, right,

923
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,360
But but it's like, no, the tight end can be

924
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:54,039
really good.

925
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: I think Walker didn't come to Bayu because we had

926
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:02,320
not yet invested in strength and additioning atrician development because

927
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,480
you were winning. But you were winning eleven and three,

928
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:06,519
eleven and one and then ten and three, and you

929
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:07,559
were using Isaac Ragg.

930
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:12,079
Speaker 8: But but Carson Ryan providing that framework, Yeah, I can

931
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:12,760
be that guy.

932
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: Four affiliation helps, Yes, P four affiliates. It really really

933
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:19,719
helps you independent, Yes, it does people, and Carson.

934
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:21,159
Speaker 4: Ryan doesn't come to be where you, It must be

935
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,440
where you have that. Carson Ryan was big.

936
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: Nor does his head their fourth star.

937
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 8: But you can't tell me having that. Listen this Carson Ryan,

938
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,639
look what he did for us last year. You can

939
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,920
go and do that same thing.

940
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it helped.

941
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: That's big for anybody.

942
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,559
Speaker 3: I think.

943
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 4: Don't diminish that.

944
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 3: The tight end that you're referring to, though, had twenty receptions,

945
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,480
two hundred twenty three yards, eleven point one yards per reception,

946
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,679
two touchdowns, So that's what what he did at an

947
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:51,280
unnamed school.

948
00:46:57,159 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 4: To play.

949
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: That which may have been near Carson Ryan's former school UCLA.

950
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:07,719
There could have been a school near and.

951
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:13,199
Speaker 4: Ryan and b WA, you may or may not of

952
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:15,719
just signed one of his family.

953
00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:21,039
Speaker 5: Possibly possibly brother on brother connection that works, you know,

954
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:21,920
a b yu.

955
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? We always keep it in the family. Family.

956
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,760
Isn't it about time?

957
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 8: That's right?

958
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:28,199
Speaker 3: Family, isn't it about time?

959
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 5: And can you sing your home your your song about

960
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,079
bringing him home now?

961
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Please?

962
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,559
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, bring him home. You're going to La miser

963
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:40,320
Oh yeah yeah, bring him Yes. Thirty seven receptions, Carson

964
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,199
Ryan had five hundred yards thirteen point five yards per

965
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,079
reception along of forty three and three touchdowns is what

966
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:49,360
Carson Ryan had, by the way. Uh. But this particular

967
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,360
four star that you talk about, uh, the six foot four,

968
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,880
two hundred and forty five pounder out of Folsom, California,

969
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,440
he measures Uh he actually has a seventy seven inch

970
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,519
swing span in thirty three inch arms. So even though

971
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:02,440
he's like the six foot six guy, he's got like

972
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:05,800
six foot six hands and arms right for blocking. So

973
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,000
he's a he can be that guy for you. He

974
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:11,559
can be that inline flexed hybrid type of tight end.

975
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,199
Speaker 8: I became privy to the Walker Lions thing a couple

976
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,760
of days ago, and it's one of those things you

977
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,679
just will will duh the way you needs a bridge

978
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,960
tight end. With all due respect to the guys that

979
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:24,920
are in the program, they kind of need that bridge

980
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,000
tight end to come in. Sure, it's the most obvious,

981
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,920
git there is anyway has it happened yet?

982
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,559
Speaker 3: I mean he's not in the portal officially. I don't

983
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:40,000
think anything's been announced. Over his career, he's got twenty

984
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,599
six perceptions, he's played two years at USC and two

985
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:47,440
hundred and fifty nine yards ten yards perception, two touchdowns

986
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:50,280
on the career, So trending in the right direction, and

987
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,960
he could be the hy one for the Kougs next

988
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,760
season along with ke indeed or you know who else

989
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,199
is going to be on that in that tight end

990
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,119
room this next year. I prett in his name number

991
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:06,320
eighty two. Noki Yeah you think Noah.

992
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, Molyaki is pretty good.

993
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:11,079
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, potential, he's got some potential who's coming off missions.

994
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:17,119
Speaker 8: Unfortunately ryaner Swanson won't be back from this mission. Yeah,

995
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:19,960
so it's like what I'm saying, they need a bridge

996
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,920
tight end. Okay, absolutely need that guy, and he's kind

997
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,480
of perfect in the card. It's gonna be nice. I think, Uh,

998
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:31,880
Gotch isn't going on a mission.

999
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: Getch. Yeah, he's gonna come in. Yeah, he's gonna come

1000
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,320
into play.

1001
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 8: Four star first year. It's kind of what you expect

1002
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,760
those guys to make waves. He could be an interesting component.

1003
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:45,559
Speaker 3: As far as tight ends. Currently on the roster. How

1004
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:49,599
you pronounced that Getch? Yeah, Gotch okay. Anthony Olsen's a

1005
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,519
Redcher junior. Ethan Erickson is going to be graduating. Wills

1006
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:57,480
Sendell Redcher freshman. Noah Moyaki Cher freshman, Cole Clement is

1007
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:02,639
a freshman. Uh. Tucker Keller is a freshman. Uh and uh.

1008
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,440
Kea Need is a junior, so he's going to be

1009
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:10,000
coming back. Jacob Nye freshman, Ethan Wood sophomore. He was

1010
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:13,679
a transfer from New Mexico State. He played at Snow

1011
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,920
prior to New Mexico State. So those are your tight ends.

1012
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 8: We're probably not giving a lot enough due diligence to

1013
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,000
Keon Need. He has potential.

1014
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 3: He's got potential.

1015
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,159
Speaker 8: He's very long and he played a lot this year.

1016
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:29,400
He very very good blocking tight end. He's kind of

1017
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,679
that sixth offensive lineman more so than a tight end

1018
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,639
a lot of the time. But he could definitely get

1019
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:36,480
out there. That's kind of the next progression. Yeah, b Wall,

1020
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,360
he could actually be pretty strong at tight end next year.

1021
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: Would love to see it. Jet Nelson could be coming

1022
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,159
home from a mission, I think, right if he's not

1023
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,320
already home. Jet Jet Nelson out of American for.

1024
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:51,639
Speaker 4: I remember him.

1025
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's kind of that sneaky guy that everyone. Yeah,

1026
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:55,920
he could be really good.

1027
00:50:56,119 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: We'll see, We'll see when we come back. I want

1028
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,599
to ask you this question, Okay, who's the greatest offensive

1029
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:08,760
coordinator in BUA football history? Because this is like, dude,

1030
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:13,039
I asked this question and b YU fans like they're

1031
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:17,079
they're scattered all over the place show everyone hates, like

1032
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,360
that's what I'm saying. The farther they get away from

1033
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,320
Norm Chow and they go back and look at it,

1034
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,400
and we went to like NC State in USC and

1035
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,159
then I argue, they're like, oh, he's the best, he's

1036
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:29,599
the best, Norm Child. But you you grew up in

1037
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:32,559
that era, and you're gonna tell us the truth of

1038
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:36,920
the matter. Because everyone is as they get farther away

1039
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:39,599
from the era, they're like, oh yeah, it was nor

1040
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:44,280
Norm Chow. I'm like, your dad, your grandpa didn't feel

1041
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,079
that way. I tell you, they did not feel that way. No,

1042
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,960
there's not a general consensus why because there's never been

1043
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,079
an offensive coordinator that BA fans liked. They've wanted them

1044
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:59,880
all fired, minus Doug Scholville because he was only a

1045
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:02,079
two years. He served a two year mission trip in

1046
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:04,280
the early in the seventy five and seventy six, and

1047
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,639
then he came back after leaving in seventy nine and

1048
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,719
eighty and and he gave you a couple of good years, right,

1049
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,039
a couple of nice seasons.

1050
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 8: Even Roderick, who probably occurred the least amount of criticism ever,

1051
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,119
fans turned on him so fast that after that Big

1052
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:21,639
Talk Championship.

1053
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:25,559
Speaker 3: I do it, I do it. You're all right, Roderick,

1054
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,559
You're a fraud first twelve games.

1055
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:29,199
Speaker 4: I don't care.

1056
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,519
Speaker 3: You're too revealed yourself. You just like Touiyaki. That's all

1057
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:35,920
I come here. I'm like, oh my god, you're a fraud.

1058
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,599
Speaker 4: Anyway, So you heard it as well, Oh yeah, they've

1059
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:40,079
heard it.

1060
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,519
Speaker 3: Like I was like, I try to balance him out

1061
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:45,199
with some like some factual stuff to like get him

1062
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,400
less emotional, and I'm like, guy, he's come on, Like

1063
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,079
the reason why I do this show is just to

1064
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,719
like the reason one of the reasons. I mean, it's fun.

1065
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,559
You know, it's a side house all those things, right,

1066
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,719
and you know it's fun. It ultimately fun.

1067
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 4: You know how many of those fans are listening right now.

1068
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:06,519
Speaker 3: I was like, hate Riddle, He's so dumb. You gotta

1069
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:10,960
realize is if you've played football in coach football and

1070
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:14,079
talked football since you were six years old, which I

1071
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,840
have been, right, and I played through you know, until

1072
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,320
I was twenty five minus two missions or two years

1073
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,639
of a mission, right, you see, you've seen so much,

1074
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,360
You've experienced so much, and so you're kind of desensitized

1075
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:33,079
to the emotional tirades of a Tyrant Toddler like mentality,

1076
00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:36,039
like where it's like no, because you take into account

1077
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:39,360
everything that happened in a play, everything that happened in

1078
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,639
a series, everything that happened in a half a quarter,

1079
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,920
you know, whatever, and everything that happens in a game, right,

1080
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,880
Like on a particular play, I may blame Bear, I

1081
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,519
may blame LJ, I may blame the offensive line. I'm

1082
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:59,559
not blaming a Rod for the play call all the time, right, Like, yeah,

1083
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:02,800
there's gonna times where I blame the play call too,

1084
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:10,639
But like how that accountability is partitioned? Is it is

1085
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:14,400
split up throughout the game? It just is. And so yeah,

1086
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:19,320
I'm less likely probably to say, you know, this guy

1087
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,880
is horrible, He's the worst ever. Like I'm not prone

1088
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,519
to hyperbole when it comes to this. And like if

1089
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:30,440
you hear John Beck, you know, and even Brady Pinga,

1090
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:33,199
Brady's willing to give some take. I mean Brady's Brady's

1091
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,239
like gone to bat for a rod. He has no

1092
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,079
reason to go to bat for a rod either, by

1093
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:38,320
the way, you know.

1094
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,039
Speaker 8: What's interesting, So Gurney, I've become a huge Utah Mammoth fan, right, Okay,

1095
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,320
And people in this mart we don't know anything about hockey.

1096
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 4: Let's just be honest.

1097
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 8: So what's the biggest criticism Because the Mammoths were kind

1098
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,400
of frustrated this year. They're not They've lost a lot

1099
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,960
of games. So what does everyone blame? Initially, every single

1100
00:54:57,039 --> 00:54:59,079
person on the message sports is I see they.

1101
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: Need a new code coach.

1102
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 4: Coach isn't doing it. They they need a new coach.

1103
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:07,280
I guarantee. There's not a single person that can analyze

1104
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,400
the game of hockey and say this is why that

1105
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:11,119
coach is bad. He needs to do this and he's

1106
00:55:11,159 --> 00:55:11,719
not doing that.

1107
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 3: I can text Cam true, he's our local hockey expert.

1108
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,280
I'd like to hear his opinion the owner of banking.

1109
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: Because that's all I hear. They need a new coach.

1110
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:24,199
Speaker 8: But that's kind of the cop out. Let's just be honest.

1111
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,519
It's the first guy that you you just put all

1112
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:29,920
the accountability on it. And yeah, it's kind of the

1113
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:33,079
nature coaching. Yeah, it does begin and end with him, right,

1114
00:55:33,199 --> 00:55:35,719
So sure I do buy that in some degree, But

1115
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,199
tell me what he's doing bad, tell me what he

1116
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,960
can do better.

1117
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 4: I just don't like the blanket. Oh he's just bad,

1118
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,320
just bad. Yeah, it's kind of the cop out.

1119
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,400
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1124
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1125
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1126
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,199
opinion though on the flip on the best offenseve coordinator

1127
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1129
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