WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:03.759 We threw recording for four minutes, right and has no audio, 2 00:00:03.879 --> 00:00:13.240 has has went through. Let's let's try again, lady, all right, 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:17.519 recording now, God damn, it's even five minutes. Nothing in 4 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:24.920 the world. Uh all right, Oh, do you start. I'm 5 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:26.600 just trying to be myself to start. 6 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:33.920 Yeah. So now now we're starting again. 7 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.679 Yeah, it's recorded. I can see my eyes. 8 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:43.399 We're talking about we're all here, yes, on that long 9 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:45.200 debut on that lake. 10 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:51.320 And I'm talking about how some people negative impact a negative. 11 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:52.600 View of the show. 12 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:58.119 Yeah, And honestly, I don't see how that was possible. 13 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.640 Yeah, I was surprised. I thought I thought it was 14 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:02.880 a good this is a very good show, you know, 15 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:07.519 with everything. Yeah, and people's you know, and it's one 16 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:09.359 thing if you're like again, like I was saying, like, 17 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.280 if you're like, you know, like at I love AW 18 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:17.599 or hashtag Biggest aw Fan nine two one zero on Twitter, right, right, 19 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:20.560 it's one thing, right to you know, to have that 20 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:25.079 Johnny's perspective, right right. But now the people who legit 21 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:30.560 had a can who legit had a candidly like no 22 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:34.599 bad reception to Raw, you know, Brandon was saying, how 23 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:38.959 earlier was saying, how you know they didn't showcase much 24 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:41.480 showcase the the the raw talent COSE is gonna be 25 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:45.920 there next week and really, uh, I want to stop 26 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:48.920 your yeah you were saying before I realized we weren't recording. 27 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.560 They basically told you for the last few weeks that 28 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:55.920 they're doing the transfer portal kind of thing. 29 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:57.040 What they what the. 30 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:01.200 NBA is doing with kids move in the school to 31 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:01.959 school to school. 32 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:04.920 Maybe some people are. 33 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.639 That once, okay, all right, back on, all right, yeah, 34 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:48.599 go ahead, sorry about that. 35 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.759 But yeah, so so you don't know who could. 36 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.120 Have ended up on one roster right now, you gotta 37 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:58.800 you've got to sit and watching being seeing who's gonna 38 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:01.360 end up where where they know that Drew mackintyre is 39 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.560 shipping over to smack. 40 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:08.240 Now now ye know, so people are moving rosters, so 41 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:10.319 you can't you can't look at that. 42 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.879 That's that's not a valid argument to say why it 43 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:13.639 was a bad show. 44 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.879 Well, it was it was like this other like things 45 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:20.000 like for example, like Gunter, who was like the champion 46 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.120 on raw, right, the main champion on Raw was brillif 47 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.240 like he was in like on set, he was like remote. 48 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:28.680 They took a second promos from or whatever it is. 49 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.919 That third, it's like that's what else did they say? 50 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:36.639 Because this is like point second. 51 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.080 Didn't they show him in the crowd at one point? 52 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.199 Gunther Uh? If they did, I didn't don't. If I 53 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:44.680 remember or I didn't see it, I'm gonna lie. 54 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.240 I thought they showed him in the crowd at one 55 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.680 point at least watching. So I mean and like, now, 56 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:54.039 there's didn't nothing that was built up for him right 57 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:59.400 now because his story think the major story. 58 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:05.000 He've been going back and forth with Damian Priest and Pala, 59 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.639 But Damian Priests and them Balad have their own story 60 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.439 that they got to resolve, so he was kind of 61 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:13.199 an ancillary piece and all of that. So there's really 62 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.159 nobody to challenge him yet. 63 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.160 And Seth and podcast to. 64 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:21.399 Resolve their issues first, So all these other issues that 65 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:24.120 have been lingering to have to be resolved so. 66 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:26.759 They can turn the Queen to start going turning after 67 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:30.240 heat for many a season. So eat him on the show? 68 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.879 How for the sake of out of the match? 69 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:37.839 No, how do you people the argument about like the 70 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.680 lack of wrestling my comparison on the show. 71 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:44.639 So here here's the. 72 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:52.560 Thing you can have five matches and have everybody standing on. 73 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:57.040 Their team for three hours with five matches, or. 74 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:01.040 You can throw eighteen matches in the same amount of 75 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.079 time and. 76 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:05.800 Sit there and just by the end of the night 77 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:09.240 everybody's turned out. They don't they don't care anymore because 78 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.879 everybody's done everything. I mean that. 79 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:16.680 So having the. 80 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:20.480 Five matches, it gives people a chance to enjoy what 81 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:24.600 they see, remember what they see, because it's not instantly 82 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.079 rush right back into something else. And you get a 83 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.319 chance to remember it, you get a chance to digest it, 84 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:32.240 you get a chance to be emotionally. 85 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:36.879 Invested in it. Mhm, instead of watching moves. 86 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.959 You're you're you're, you're invested in what they're doing, compared 87 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:44.360 to just watching watching a bunch of moves. So yeah, 88 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:48.199 I'd rather have the show with you know, five matches 89 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.120 compared to fifty matches. 90 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:50.560 You know. 91 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:52.839 Yeah, I used to watch it show cool. I used 92 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:55.560 to watch a show with you know, the non stop wrestling, 93 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.199 like over a dozen matches in one night. It was 94 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:03.879 so it was cold, it was a dark right, you know. 95 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:08.839 And look, I won't I want. 96 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.240 To say if people just wanted shows like that, then 97 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:14.639 Chewing five Live would have been the greatest success of 98 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.480 all time, because that's all it was. It was just 99 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:21.000 a straight wrestling show for one hour, right, There was 100 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:22.279 no real. 101 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.279 Talking segments in the beginning of T five line. It 102 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.759 was straight wrestling, and but nobody. 103 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:33.279 Killing into that because there was no emotional investment. Right, 104 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.319 You've gotta you gotta have a reason to watch, the 105 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:38.959 reason that care about what's going on. 106 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:45.639 Yeah, And I was trying to tell Brendan that, you know, like, 107 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.040 like I bet you this this was a special show. 108 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.639 It was like a celebration, a special, like a like 109 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:53.879 a m never at special is there? They do enough? 110 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.079 But this isn't you know, this isn't like them though, 111 00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:00.959 coming from uh spiked us A or USA to whatever, 112 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.680 right they're going to. This's a big ass deal, you know, say, 113 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:07.680 you know, right, so this is more like a like 114 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:10.480 a celebration, more of a special as opposed like a 115 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.040 regular episode of Raw. And I was trying to expand 116 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:16.199 to him, but he was and I and I was 117 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:20.560 assuring him that I'm sure that they will go back 118 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.040 to you know, being a stand ups over all next week. 119 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:26.800 And it plucks up the next week to the finals 120 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:31.000 of the Women's tournament for the kind of championship, uh. 121 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:38.120 Next week and what what's what's the name of the 122 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:43.519 guy from a w A penta hydra corquin. 123 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:45.160 Him? 124 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:49.120 He's they He's presumably gonna be a mystery a point 125 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:54.000 against Chad Gable. Yeah, they big stuff up from for 126 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:57.240 all next week. So yeah, I felt that this was 127 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:02.959 a success every way, you know, and that like me personally, right, 128 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.000 like this is very like the kidding me right, like 129 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:08.839 watching Rusting for the first time, right, this this was 130 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.040 very like new user friendly, you know what I'm saying. 131 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:16.319 It reminds it reminded me of like of like back 132 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.000 in like twenty years ago, like the Adwooe era and 133 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:22.079 the early days of the early years of the Christian area, 134 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.279 where like they were like on a pap per view, right, 135 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.800 they would like show like six months of stuff in 136 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:27.720 the recap package. 137 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:27.959 Right. 138 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.879 So if you hadn't been watching at all, or have 139 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:33.559 been watching for the last two months or the last 140 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:36.840 two years or ever, right, and you saw these like 141 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:42.440 recap packages compounded with you know the commentary and other exposition, right, 142 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:45.480 you were caught up. And I felt that I thought 143 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:47.080 that was a compet as well as opposed to be 144 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:51.399 watching TNA for the first time or aw for the 145 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:55.919 first time, right or right, and like you just lost, 146 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:59.200 you'll know who's who a sac from the WWE guys. 147 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.240 You know what they're doing, why they're doing and you 148 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.600 know you'll know whatever. Right, you can't even tell who's 149 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:10.039 the babase, who's a heel? Just that there a man 150 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:13.360 called from a scam caller. You just hanging that real quick. 151 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:18.039 But yeah, but I mean again, I respect Brandon Candell's opinion, right, 152 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.840 you know, a great disagree. I guess again, like I said, 153 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:22.679 like I keep I keep saying, this is you know, 154 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:26.840 this is just some random nontrol who just wanted to say, 155 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:28.879 you know, update that we don't have to be this 156 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.759 that there, so they have their opinions. I actually didn't 157 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:34.440 change your mind. I'm not here to change your minds. 158 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.399 I'm just saying I disagree, you know, stuff like that. 159 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:40.799 But yeah, I'm meeting our conversations we had right via 160 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.720 text and you're saying, you said, here a good show. 161 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.200 I loved Hogan getting booed. 162 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:54.639 I mean himself, man, you. 163 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:57.720 Know every time you kind of gave. 164 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:01.679 Him a little bit of a patch over, you know, 165 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.759 talking their comments about his girl gigging a black dud, right, 166 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:07.559 you know when. 167 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:09.559 The little paths over that way, and. 168 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:17.559 Well his girlfriend was a daughter daughter, his daughter, right, he. 169 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:23.279 Said, okay, you know, he apologize whatever. Whatever he was 170 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:26.360 in the moment, it was something that was It wasn't 171 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:29.240 out of time, packs it was just he was in the. 172 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:33.279 Moment, right whatever. Okay, it was. 173 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.960 Something private that was that was recorded that wasn't supposed 174 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:36.480 to be public. 175 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.480 And then you know there's even more racist incidents that 176 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:42.200 come up out. 177 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:46.200 Of him, and then you see him at at the 178 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:47.879 the Republican. 179 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:58.759 Can read the move you're in California. 180 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:01.320 I'm convinced they did that on purpose. They knew they 181 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:04.080 was doing. They put they put Holganu like out there 182 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:04.840 as a rib. 183 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:10.320 With him, huh. They ended up with him with his bear. 184 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:12.840 Yeah, I know, but I think I think low key. 185 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:14.840 It's hard to convince you otherwise. I think low key 186 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:17.360 they did as like a rib like send out there 187 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:18.159 to get boohooed. 188 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.440 Yeah. I don't think they expected that, I really did. 189 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:25.679 I don't think they expected that reaction out of him. 190 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.080 They're like, okay, this is you know, a nostalgia night 191 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:31.919 and everything, you know, sending out here and sending out 192 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:32.240 here with. 193 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.759 Jimmy Hard, am all things right? 194 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.399 And and then they cheered me hard. They cheered to 195 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:38.679 me hard the booth Hogan. 196 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:44.519 Though, if you go over to the next night one 197 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:47.080 when the Rock appeared getting. 198 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:52.080 Out of his vehicle, Who's who's on the trailer with beside? Oh, 199 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.000 I don't Cogan and Jimmy Hard on the side of 200 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:04.279 the uh trailer? Yes, it's they didn't. 201 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:05.679 They didn't plan. 202 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:06.399 That one very well. 203 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.840 I was on I was on Twitter right and Instagram 204 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:11.919 and papoos out the day right, and like I'm hearing, 205 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.080 I'm not hearing. I'm seeing all these all these bizarre 206 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:19.600 tweets and posts and whatever comments whatever onlines off like, 207 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:23.120 you know, wrestling fans today have no respect, Like how 208 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:26.240 dare they blew Hogan? And I was like scratching my head, like. 209 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:33.279 Yeah, there are the people that look at him as 210 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:39.960 okay Kan the wrestling character right there, and and if. 211 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:42.240 You look at it strictly from that side of it, 212 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:43.440 it's just a character. 213 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:51.200 You you you applaud everything he did or putting the 214 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:52.200 company on those back. 215 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.200 You know, wrestling, We're not watching wrestling today if. 216 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:59.960 It wasn't for him and and him being the star 217 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:01.759 that he was, he was made to be. 218 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:04.919 Well horrorm is it there? 219 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:05.120 Right? 220 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.720 Because Brandon was saying earlier, right, how me and me 221 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:12.000 and myself and Brandon are for the same generation right now, 222 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:15.879 you Chris Fleming and Kavanaugh right are also from from 223 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.519 also from from from the same generation. Right, you're in 224 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.399 your own generation from hours right, we're from a younger generation. 225 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:25.879 So we kind of came up on wrestling when well, 226 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:27.919 when Hogan was like in the n w WORL this 227 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.679 that third so by then, right, you know, kids, Hello, 228 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:37.440 they lost him home Kong back with quick hold on 229 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.200 the culture, hold on, hold on, get him back right now? 230 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:48.559 You see all right, it's good. No ring tone is 231 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:57.480 a bad sign. Yep, huhm, what's going with that? It 232 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.000 could be may end like I have some wonky stuff 233 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:05.960 with the never connectivity in recent days, it's six facing cold. 234 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:13.960 The state was like twenty years. We tried to call 235 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:14.519 on Instagram. 236 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:16.759 Maybe know something. 237 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.879 I don't know what happened. I don't know, I don't 238 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:25.679 know what's going on, but yeah, trying to see again, 239 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:29.840 I'm calling on Instagram, but there's no ringing tones. Yes, 240 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.080 it could be my end because I have some won 241 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:34.759 key connection, like we're not live right now, like I'm 242 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.960 like recording on my computer and stuff like that. But yeah, 243 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:40.960 I was saying, while waiting for us to come out 244 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.639 in the air, I was saying, how ye was saying earlier, 245 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.240 how I know people from me his generation, you know, 246 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.480 we don't really go up on Hogan, Like by then 247 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.919 the hogans has been one the time he gone to restling, 248 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:54.960 you know's gone in trusting who was five according to 249 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:57.080 what he said, I got trusting on about nine or 250 00:14:57.080 --> 00:15:06.360 ten and stuff like that. But yeah, well old, do 251 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.679 you hear me? Yeah, yeah, I know. I don't know 252 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:11.639 what happened. I don't know who's followed this, but I 253 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:20.000 don't care. Yeah, but yeah, I was yeah, I was saying, yeah, 254 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.320 so me and Brandon are younger than you Christ and Cavina, Right, 255 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.600 you're from different generation than us, So we didn't grow 256 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.559 up on Hogan. No, by then, by the time he 257 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.279 got too rustling, right, he was like a husband right 258 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:33.679 in a sense. So it's like, you know, yeah, like 259 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:35.720 so like we swore so if so by the time 260 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:38.279 we got into wrestling, right, we like we well, Brandon 261 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:40.559 he started younger than me. I got ten. He got 262 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:43.000 to wrestle with five whatever, Right, so he knows like 263 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.720 the NB world Black and White, this dad or or whatever. Right, 264 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.960 so to go from that right to American idol, American 265 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.159 American hero, ho Cogan, I'm a real American Hopeg that's corny. 266 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.399 You know, that's corny to us. So we we pointed 267 00:15:58.440 --> 00:15:59.720 me saying this that we didn't we didn't come up 268 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:04.559 on whole if anything, or the older generation did no 269 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:08.440 saying like we came up in the nineties and or 270 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:14.559 two thousands. That's mean Brandon's age. So yeah, I mean but. 271 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:21.440 Even even the nineties, I mean nineties, early two thousands, Yeah. 272 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:24.279 I mean that was that was the tail end of 273 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.879 I mean, the late nineties was all n w R 274 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.759 at the time. Yeah, you know, that was Hogan. 275 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:38.120 So you know before that, you know, the eighties, that 276 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.639 was the you know, uh say your prayers, eat your vitamins, 277 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:48.480 you know, Hobian. That was that was you know, miss 278 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:50.399 mister America Hogan. 279 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:57.919 You know. But so yeah, he basically carried the w 280 00:16:58.159 --> 00:16:59.840 W I mean, there's no. 281 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.240 Media it without the popularity of what Hogan became. 282 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:11.319 He was such a big star that he transcended wrestling 283 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:13.799 right like The Rock did today. 284 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:21.079 The Hogan was was that generation's Rock, you know, you transit. 285 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:22.680 I mean Hogan was on everything. 286 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:28.079 I mean the cartoons, everybody had, the lunchboxes, you know, 287 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:30.599 the T shirts. You would seeing the Hogan T shirts 288 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:35.519 walking around in schools. You know, from the action figures 289 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:39.319 and and everything. It was all centered around Hogan. I 290 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:43.279 mean he was the one person that everybody knew. If 291 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.279 you watch wrestling at all, you knew the name of Kogan. 292 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:47.160 Yeah. 293 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:51.440 Now like if you if you know people he talked to, 294 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.160 people that don't know wrestling or don't watch wrestling. 295 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:57.359 Didn't know the name of The Rock. 296 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:02.319 Yeah. So I mean and Hogan was that. Hogan was 297 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:06.359 that level. I mean still to this day. I mean. 298 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:12.079 If you look at it from wrestling wrestling alone, I mean, yeah, 299 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.119 he was a He was a crap wrestler. I did 300 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.200 not I've never seen a machine. 301 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:19.720 It's not that he wasn't a crap crap wrestler. Is 302 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:20.119 that is that? 303 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:20.359 Like? 304 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:23.920 Is it that like he chose to like know, like 305 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:26.799 be lazy or whatever, because like I seen like I 306 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.640 feel like in like Mow Japan, like working like like 307 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:30.759 working his asshole. 308 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.119 I mean it was just when you look at it, 309 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:39.640 I think he got to that. He was in that 310 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:42.119 lessons more. 311 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:47.759 Yeah, and with him, you know, no, he wasn't gonna 312 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:49.160 get out there and do any clips. 313 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:50.519 And he would go out there and he would get 314 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:53.599 beat him up for fifteen minutes. Then he would shake 315 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:55.279 his finger, stand. 316 00:18:55.079 --> 00:19:02.119 Up, punching through a steezer and then yeah. 317 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:04.519 And I hated it. I was never After seeing him 318 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:06.319 do that a few times, I'm like, you mean to 319 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:07.759 tell me? And this was during it. 320 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:11.079 I was a kid during his era, and so I'm 321 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.039 watched him that a nice one. I stopped, you know, 322 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:18.160 believing in it as a kid and watching him because like, 323 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:19.559 there's no way you're gonna tell me. 324 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:23.079 He got beat up for fifteen minutes, fifteen street minutes 325 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:24.319 and then all of a sudden. 326 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:29.480 Yeah. My first, my first Hulk Hogan match that I 327 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:33.200 ever saw was him and Shawn Michaels at Summerstine Peasant five. 328 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.480 I'll take nine or ten back then, right, and like 329 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.079 he's saw Michaels coming a chair, his h h hit 330 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:42.799 his kick. He was bleeding like like like a like 331 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:47.000 a stuck hog. And I'm like yeah, I don't gonna 332 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.960 lie even me back then like that. I cannot smeb 333 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.599 with this belief like and it didn't help. So Michaels wacky, 334 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:55.720 no cell, I mean not what oversaw us to say 335 00:19:55.720 --> 00:20:00.240 it over cell. Yeah, he took all this abuse, said 336 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:02.480 like you're going to punch him with one or two 337 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:05.880 times here boy and elect drop and then win. 338 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:06.960 Nah. 339 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:10.839 I didn't like that. I seen some Michaels earlier this year, 340 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:14.000 like go to a table and angle, slam off the 341 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.000 top rope and all this other stuff at ROLSA Media, 342 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:19.039 you know say he's so yeah. 343 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:23.119 Wasn't any of that stuff, but you know it was 344 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.799 a different time, different era. But essentially he was you know, 345 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:32.359 he was that generation's rock, right, So he was the 346 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:38.000 larger than like persona and that's because of his generation, 347 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:39.920 which was you. 348 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:43.920 Know, everybody was larger than light. You know, whether they 349 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:44.920 took steroids or not. 350 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:47.559 I don't know they took steroids. 351 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:56.799 I won't say anybody did. But these guys were larger 352 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.759 than life. They moved apart. So you see them doing. 353 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.480 All these things and kicking animals and things like that. 354 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:06.799 You bought into it because you know, you're looking. 355 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:08.039 All these guys and all these muscles. 356 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:09.359 Then you see these. 357 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:12.559 Guys now that are like one hundred and forty pounds, 358 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:14.880 you know, kicking out a pile driver. 359 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:16.640 Yeah, it's like what. 360 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:18.799 You know. 361 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.960 So it's it's a different generation of a different appeal 362 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:24.880 when it comes to Togan. 363 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:28.480 So yeah, Hogan has has this place in the history. 364 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.599 Hogan the character, right. 365 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:35.680 The problem is there's the great line after so long 366 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:39.200 with a lot of these older wrestlers, you can't separate 367 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:44.599 the character from the artists. Yes, so you know, hul 368 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:50.000 Kogan the person is overshadowing ho Cogan the wrestler. And 369 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:53.359 so yeah, I was standing in my kitchen watching the TV, 370 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.480 and I was blooming right along with everybody else, you know, 371 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:02.359 because Hogan the person had done too much damage to 372 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:04.440 the point where I don't need to see him anymore. 373 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:06.799 Yeah, I mean. 374 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:13.319 Stuff do politics. It's like like he's he's like a widow, 375 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:15.400 you know. 376 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:16.400 Yeah. 377 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:19.279 Yeah, but yeah, even't believe some stuff I stee on 378 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:23.359 social media. So it's a clear up real quick. They 379 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.319 seemed to be trying to suck Rock women against again, 380 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.480 but still did not like his induction of Cody, not 381 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:30.920 like it's in the. 382 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:37.759 Yeah, so he saw Rock and he seen how he 383 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:42.000 was eyeing Rolling, and yeah, he gave him the father 384 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:49.519 he gave him on the look that he gave him 385 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:55.839 was like almost like you know he was in he 386 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:57.960 had been jealousy look. And even when they. 387 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:00.839 Showed the footage backstage, when when I was sitting back 388 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:02.319 there drinking his Teremanta right. 389 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:07.079 Before he started drinking and driving, you're looking in. 390 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:10.039 The background and he's watching Roman and getting his vision. 391 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.799 Don't drink, don't do don't be like be like Roman, 392 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:16.519 have a driver. 393 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:21.640 So, uh, he saw him. 394 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:24.160 Staring and you can you when you got the sense, 395 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:30.279 there's a jump that something else is gonna happen right there. 396 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:31.480 There's no way. 397 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:34.759 They're gonna let this whole throat slash when he came 398 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:37.440 out a few months ago and. 399 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.519 He did the whole throat slash too to Roman and 400 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:42.599 and Cody. 401 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:50.319