WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:01.480 It's a nice eze. 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:06.040 Un Boston's News Radio. 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:08.919 All right, we're talking about what has been going on 4 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:13.400 for the last few days in several American cities, and 5 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:18.559 that are the ICE raids which have resulted in the deportation, 6 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:25.000 well the attempted deportation of several hundred people who have 7 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:29.879 been arrested and or detained. The Thrump administration continues to 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:35.719 tell us that they are going after the worst of 9 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:38.320 the folks who are here illegally, those who have been 10 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:44.560 convicted of crimes, serious crimes, not things like jaywalking. And 11 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:51.679 I am very critical, frankly, of the information that has 12 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:54.880 come out now. I've I check every day to try 13 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.359 to get as much information as possible. It's pretty clear 14 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:01.520 to me that ICE has made a tactical decision that 15 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:10.519 they will leak out information, specifically to media outlets that 16 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:14.359 are favorable to their activities. I think they owe a 17 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:18.079 responsibility to the American public as a whole to every 18 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:23.280 day announce as publicly as possible and as transparently as 19 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:27.359 possible what raids were conducted in what cities and what 20 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:29.959 the results were up to and including the names of 21 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:34.040 those people who are being deported and the crimes for 22 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:39.599 which they had been convicted in or charged period. I 23 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:42.280 think it's in their interest to get it out because 24 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:48.079 you have the folks who are representing the immigrant community 25 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:54.120 and defending and criticizing any raids of the community, basically 26 00:01:54.239 --> 00:02:00.400 using the people in that community who may be are 27 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:03.280 here for the right reasons even though they here illegally. 28 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:06.959 They're talking about they're gonna raid schools, They're gonna raid. 29 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:12.280 Hospitals, and that just plays to the concerns that America 30 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.680 has with what might be construed as over reaction. 31 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:16.360 That's all. 32 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:20.439 I don't know anyone who was opposed well, maybe self people, 33 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.280 but I do still don't know anyone who's opposed to 34 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:27.000 getting criminals out of this country who are here illegally. 35 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:29.639 I mean, why would you be opposed to that? Do 36 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:31.960 we not have enough criminals in America as it is? 37 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.319 We have enough homegrown criminals. Okay, I'm not worried about 38 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.680 people who are here as much. I'm worried about the 39 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:43.000 criminals I'm not necessarily here. Worried about someone who's working 40 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:47.719 under the table. Now should they stay here? I want 41 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:51.759 to know more about those people. Okay, but they're if 42 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.560 they're doing what they are saying they're doing, and I 43 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:59.159 believe they are. Get the information out. Let's go to 44 00:02:59.199 --> 00:02:59.599 the phones. 45 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.800 We're gonna to go to Elvis in Middleton, Massachusetts. Elvis, 46 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:04.319 you are next on nightside. Welcome. 47 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:07.560 What's up, Dan, It's Telvis. 48 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:10.560 You know we had the same We had the same 49 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:14.240 problem before. Rob, you got it. You got to now 50 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:16.199 spell Pelvis now, Rob. 51 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:18.879 We're good, Yeah, we're good. But anyways, No, I just 52 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:20.199 I just want to give a little bit of a 53 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:22.280 quick insight. I know it could be it could be 54 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:23.840 a lot length here, but I'll just give it to 55 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:26.439 you real quick. I have a I had a whole 56 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:29.199 bunch of the you know, some of these migrants working 57 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:31.479 for me. I have a large scale landscape company north 58 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.240 of Boston. I had a lot of them over here legally. 59 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.680 Who are really disgusted by what the Biden administration has done. 60 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:40.960 Because these these guys have been with me since two 61 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:43.360 thousand and two, two thousand and three. They used to 62 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:45.280 have to be here I legally ten years. They have 63 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.719 to pay their way to get legal citizenship. Okay. Now, 64 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:53.759 under the administration, they issued a ti N number tax identification, 65 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.000 which is a Social Security number essentially for migrants coming 66 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:01.000 over here, if they worked legal and paid a little 67 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.360 bit of tax and stayed out of trouble, they were 68 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:07.520 guaranteed citizenship one year. That was their voting rights and 69 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:11.439 the citizenship. Now the problem with the stronghold and what 70 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.919 the cartel has on a lot of these people are 71 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.800 and I'm also a partner in some restaurant businesses, but 72 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:21.120 you know, some of these people are over here scared 73 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.839 to death because the cartel has a stronghold on the 74 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:28.399 families back home. These people are here carrying out They're 75 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:35.120 carrying out a certain criteria whatever the cartel wants. Some 76 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:39.160 of these people are very innocent looking and acting, but 77 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.560 they are doing a lot of nefarious things quietly behind 78 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.279 the scenes. One of the guys that worked for me 79 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.240 for two years was brought up. He got caught at 80 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:51.000 North Store Mall by an Ice agent back in February. 81 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.399 He was deported back in two thousand and nine for 82 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:59.600 child rape and prostitution, and then he came back over 83 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:03.439 here three years later. We hired him. He was putting 84 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:07.160 in sixty hours a week laying brick for us. Nicest 85 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:09.800 guy in the world on the surface. We had no 86 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:13.120 idea what the background was. So the problem is some 87 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:14.759 of these guys don't always look awe. 88 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.759 How did they find how did they found he was here? 89 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.480 He got deported in ice agent recognized him. They recognized 90 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:25.079 him up but up at the sorry, the cheesecake factory. 91 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.279 It just when when did that happen? 92 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:30.199 If he was. 93 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:32.959 Here and that happened, that happened last he was here 94 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:36.240 in two thousand and nine. Right, he was deported under 95 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:40.399 under whatever he was convicted of or whatever. Here he 96 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.879 was deported in two thousand and eleven. I believe he 97 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:47.160 came back over here two years later under a different alias. 98 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:51.519 In twenty thirteen, we hired him myself and two other 99 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:55.240 large companies. He lays a ton of brick, puts in 100 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.279 sixty hours a week at thirty dollars an hour. He 101 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.199 killed it. He's been around my kids, you know, he's 102 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:05.040 been around everybody. We had no idea until last February, 103 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.399 where someone recognized him, put them through the database, and 104 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.639 that was it. I mean, this was a guy goes 105 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.480 to church every Sunday, he plays the game the correct way. 106 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.480 He had two sisters who work for a local fast 107 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:20.519 food restaurant. They all look the part like they're doing 108 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:23.800 the right thing. But the problem is a lot of 109 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:27.199 them have either a stronghold. The church has a lot 110 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.160 to do with this. The Church has a huge umbrella 111 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:31.800 over a lot of these people, and they're the ones 112 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.480 putting up the most fight right now to keep a 113 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:39.439 lot of them here. But that particular instance was sickening 114 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:43.920 because he's been around my Kase. Yeah, I mean I 115 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:46.319 was buying him launch, you know, every Friday, free launch, 116 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:47.920 whatever it was. I mean, it seemed like the nicest 117 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:50.399 guy in the world. The problem is there's some nefarious 118 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:52.560 things that don't always look like on the surface. So 119 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:55.879 my point is you and I can't walk into Canada 120 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.600 with our hands open and get free everything. Were the 121 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.360 only country who allows it, and there has to be 122 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.800 a real vetting process intact and not something absolutely as 123 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:07.360 you know. So that's all. 124 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:10.040 Would let me just ask you this. I've been trying 125 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:11.800 to argue this hour. 126 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.879 I'm in favor of what Trump is doing, but I'm 127 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:22.519 very upset that we're not getting more specific information. This 128 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:27.759 should be a clearinghouse at ice in which they should say, okay, 129 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:32.360 today they were arrested at seven hundred people fifteen You 130 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:37.519 know three hundred people were detained. The breakdown is that 131 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:42.079 in the following cities, arrest remained. In Los Angeles fifteen arrests, 132 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:43.680 San Francisco twelve arrests. 133 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:45.839 Whatever I think, I think you're right, it should be 134 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.759 more transparent. And I don't agree with as much as 135 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.480 I don't agree with anchor babies, which is, you know, 136 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:53.519 my guys who came over here immediately when they were 137 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.720 scared back. Now I want to say, like two thousand whatever, 138 00:07:56.920 --> 00:08:00.120 they come over, they immediately have three kids here so 139 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.160 they can stay and they have their citizenship. I don't 140 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.240 agree with anchor babies, but I also don't agree with 141 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.879 ICE agents showing up It's a different topic, but showing 142 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:13.120 up at the at the bus stations and taking children 143 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:17.120 because their parents put them in that situation. It's it's 144 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:18.839 it's not a good look for the rest of the 145 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.160 children who are either on the bus or at the 146 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.600 bus stop watching another. 147 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:30.600 You're talking about local school buses that ain't okay, And 148 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:32.720 when that happens, we'll deal with it. 149 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:35.159 Oh, they're they're they're they're reporting. They're reporting that though, 150 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:36.879 is what I'm saying. So if that, if that is 151 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:41.240 happening anywhere, whether it's schools and other kids involved, saying 152 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.559 that's crazy me on this, I have. 153 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:48.320 Not seen that reported. I have seen newspaper stories that 154 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:53.960 people don't read. Fear in the community, those people in 155 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.799 the community who are fearful that young children. 156 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:58.799 And then you have some dumb. 157 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.159 And they're telling them about Anderson funds them and all them. 158 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:02.279 Yes, well well no. 159 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:06.320 Then you have some administrators, as some assistant superintendent who 160 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:10.879 issues a statement under no circumstances will ICE officers. 161 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:14.320 Be allowed to come in here and take elementary school students. 162 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:18.080 Well, that's not happening, So they're preemptively doing that. 163 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:25.799 Yeah, yes, It's like it's like saying, we're fearful that 164 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:30.039 the ICE officers are going to mistake the illegal aliens 165 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:34.159 for aliens who are here peacefully from other planets, and 166 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:40.519 that they have no authority to apprehend Martians or people 167 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:42.919 who have come here peacefully from Mars. 168 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:45.320 I mean, is it's made up out of home. 169 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.519 But the workers who have a real reason, like I say, 170 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.919 either a work visa or a real dedication to being here, 171 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:56.759 are absolutely offended by what is going on right now 172 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.240 by their you know, just people walking in and doing 173 00:09:59.240 --> 00:09:59.759 what they want. 174 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.759 And I'm glad you made that point. 175 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.519 Pelvis is always I appreciate your call. Thank you much. 176 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:07.200 All right, all right, let's. 177 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:08.159 Keep it rolling, everybody. 178 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.919 Six one seven, two four ten thirty one line there, 179 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:14.799 six one seven nine. I am going to try to 180 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:17.279 pick up the pace here. I apologize something. The calls 181 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.080 have been good, but I'm letting them go too long, 182 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.639 and I want to hear from some of my female callers. 183 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.519 Most of these guys are saying, yeah, they're they're with 184 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.000 me in this. I want to see transparency, and I 185 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.279 want to see it sooner rather than later. Back on 186 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:33.279 night Side after this. 187 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:37.480 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 188 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:40.720 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 189 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:45.399 Let's keep rolling. They're going to go to Matt. Matt, 190 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:46.840 you were next one nights. I welcome. 191 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:52.879 Well, if Matt isn't already, we're gonna put them on 192 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:55.639 hold and we'll come back to Matt in the meantime. 193 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:57.480 We'll go to Jim. Jim you were next on nights. 194 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.639 I go ahead, Jim, Dan any thanks you take my call. 195 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:06.519 I'll be brief. Uh, thank you, you're welcome. So I'll 196 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.440 just admit that one of the really good things that 197 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:12.000 I get. I listened to a lot of talk radio. 198 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:17.759 Uh is I listen like a thief to if there's 199 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:21.919 a scholar on a subject or an attorney who's specializes 200 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.399 in a field of section of law. So they could 201 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:29.720 publish all day long with what they want to publish, 202 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.080 and it wouldn't have any meaning to me because I 203 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:36.639 don't know the law. I don't know any it's very vague. 204 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.039 It's kind of unexplored and vague. So I'm kind of 205 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.200 looking to you to kind of I think you've tried 206 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:47.559 cases in federal court before, so I know you're you're 207 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:49.840 kind of a legal scholar. So I wouldn't. 208 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:52.600 Would consider myself a legal scholar. I have not tried 209 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.399 cases in federal quod. I'm a member of the bar 210 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:57.360 here in Massachusetts. 211 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.759 Uh, And I've. 212 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.960 More cases in federal court than than than most lawyers 213 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:06.480 have tried cases in federal court. That's not the point. 214 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:08.679 The point is, what's your question? I'll be happy to 215 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:10.879 answer it for you. Well, I don't. 216 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.240 I don't even know enough about it to ask if 217 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:17.440 uh an intelligent question? These are the. 218 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:21.759 Nobody because these people. 219 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:26.799 Give me a Jim Jim let me explain something to 220 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:28.080 you which might help for you. 221 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:29.960 Okay, let me give you a little tutorial. 222 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.120 Okay, I don't I'm not trying to suggest that I'm 223 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:34.279 the smartest guy in the world. 224 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:35.720 But what I'm telling you is this. 225 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:41.960 If people come into this country illegally, and their illegal 226 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:45.799 presence here is compounded by the fact that they have 227 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:51.200 committed crimes in a in the in America, including including 228 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:57.480 uh serious crimes like the guy that killed h. Lincoln 229 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:03.519 Riley the young woman and in Georgia, they can be 230 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:09.720 tried and convicted here just like a US citizen, and 231 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:13.240 they also, upon the completion of this sentence, can be 232 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:17.840 automatically deported. People who are here illegally can be automatically 233 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.320 deported if if, if somehow. 234 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.440 Can they can they be deported prior to the completion 235 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:27.440 that can? It can? Part of the can their punishment 236 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:30.480 be to be deported? Is that and serve their sense 237 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.559 in a form? I mean, I don't know. 238 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:33.480 It depends. 239 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.679 How do we know what they're doing? You ask the questions, says, 240 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:39.120 where how do we know whether they're doing? 241 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.399 Want the answer or if you just want to talk, 242 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:44.120 I'll listen to you. Go ahead, go ahead, talk. I'll listen. 243 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:49.200 There's other people in the Massachusetts area that should be 244 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.000 calling in about this stuff. 245 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:51.240 There. 246 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.960 There's lots of law schools and students there. They should 247 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.240 be calling in to talk about this. Instead they clam up. 248 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:00.000 So come on, we don't know how how do you 249 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:01.759 how do you know if they're doing the right thing 250 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:04.120 if we don't know what the law on it is. 251 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:10.519 So, Jim, Jim, you're not listening to me. Okay, come 252 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:11.519 on listening to me. 253 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:17.320 I've explained to you that if someone is here illegally, okay, 254 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:24.080 and they come to the attention of the authorities, they 255 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:29.679 are eminently deportable. Okay, eminently deportable. If someone comes here 256 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.919 and works under the table for twenty years and no 257 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.320 one finds out about it, they're not going to get deported. 258 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:38.279 Uh. 259 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:42.320 If someone comes here and there is a program that 260 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:45.279 one of our callers just mentioned a few years ago 261 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.080 which was in place which allowed people who could prove 262 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.759 they had worked here for ten years legally, that they 263 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.879 had worked here i should say, and had a taxpayer 264 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.840 identification number, uh, and that they had paid their taxes 265 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.480 and all of that, they could almost then get on 266 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:04.120 a road to being here legally. 267 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.320 But when you're talking about someone who's here illegally and 268 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:07.960 they commit a. 269 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:12.480 Crime to port him, to port him or try him first, 270 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.840 make them serve their time here. There's a story that 271 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.240 one of the Boston newspaper's going to have tomorrow. A 272 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.600 guy killed his wife. He played in Boston in Massachusetts 273 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:26.279 in two thousand and five. He pled guilty to murder 274 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:30.320 in the second degree. Okay, I played guilty. He was 275 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:35.799 paroled recently, and thank god Ice got him, and he's 276 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.080 going to be deported now if they happen to catch him. 277 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.200 If he comes back into the country, he's automatically deportable. 278 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:42.919 I can. 279 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:46.360 All of these cases are complicated, but I can answer 280 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.200 any one of them for you, Jim, if you want. 281 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:53.799 Well, okay, well, I really don't know even, like I said, 282 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:55.919 I don't know enough about it to even ask an 283 00:15:55.960 --> 00:16:02.559 intelligent question. But in certain we're depending on people who 284 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.320 do know about the law to kind of tell us 285 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.799 what should or shouldn't happen in this or it may 286 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:11.360 be dependent on a judge or a jury. Do they 287 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.440 have a right to a jury trial? You know, do 288 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:17.000 they even get a trial? I mean, can they just 289 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.360 be I mean, it seems like they're not getting a 290 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:22.799 fair hearing if I don't know if they're even entitled 291 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:24.840 to that. Are they entitled to a fair hearing? 292 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:30.759 They are entitled while they are physically present in the 293 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.679 United States. If they commit a crime in the United States, 294 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:40.279 they are entitled to the same, the same benefits. 295 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:41.720 I guess you would claim. 296 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:46.759 They can go to vote, they can do process, they 297 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:50.080 can invoke a Fifth Amendment, they can get a lawyer 298 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.519 in all of that, so they do they There have 299 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.440 been court cases which extend due process to people by 300 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.159 the mere physical presence here fact of whether they're a 301 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:04.359 citizen or an illegal Okay, but all of these cases 302 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:08.359 have different twist and turn. Sometimes there's a difference to 303 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.680 someone who was here illegally as opposed to someone who 304 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:15.680 was here legally and their visa has expired. So you 305 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:17.440 just got to listen all the different cases. 306 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:21.200 So it sounds to me like, at a bare minimum, 307 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:23.319 all these guys that they're just loading on the planes, 308 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:27.039 these guys have already out run out of rope. Yes, 309 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:31.440 or if not, if they make a mistake of deporting 310 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:33.359 one of them and they and they really shouldn't have 311 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.680 been deported, then That's a big problem, isn't it. 312 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:41.359 If they make the mistake of deporting someone who's an 313 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.720 American citizen, Yeah, that's a huge mistake. But if they 314 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:46.200 if they. 315 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:51.440 Deport someone because they're here illegally, I don't consider that 316 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:52.440 a problem at all. 317 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.279 Well, it's not about I'm not asking what you you know. 318 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.640 We can't go by what you know. If you went 319 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.880 by what everybody personal preference, who knows what would happen. 320 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:05.440 I'm asking a matter of law. Let's say they've been 321 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:08.440 charged with the crime, and they're they're they've had a hearing, 322 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:11.519 they will release on their own recognizance, and they're waiting 323 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.680 a trial. Uh and and but but Ice picks them 324 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:16.440 up and just deports them. 325 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.440 They don't they don't know. If they're waiting a trial, 326 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:22.319 they're not going to be deported. But if they're, if they. 327 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.400 Are, really, are you sure. 328 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:26.400 Well, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a 329 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:28.640 full answer. The problem with you, Jim, is you ask 330 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.960 questions you don't listen to answers. So let's assume the 331 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:40.519 person has been charged with, I don't know, drinking in public, okay, 332 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.920 uh and and they are illegal, I don't think there's 333 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.559 anything which would prevent this country from saying, and this 334 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:50.880 administration from saying, Look, they're here legally. 335 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.319 We don't care. We're not going to spend the. 336 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:56.519 Time on convicting him on a on a drunk driving 337 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:58.920 or drinking in public charge. Put him on a plane 338 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.680 and get rid of him. You treat that person differently 339 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:04.240 than someone who is murdered or rape someone. You don't 340 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:05.359 want to say to someone. 341 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:08.319 I thought you said they're entitled the due process. 342 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:12.039 Yes they are, and the due process is you're here illegally. 343 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.880 We've proven you're here illegally. We're not going to keep 344 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.680 you here and feed you and put you uh and 345 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.519 you you do not have the same level of due 346 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:24.599 process as a citizen. We're deporting you. We will dismiss 347 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:28.519 the charges of drunk of your drinking in public, your 348 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:32.160 minor offense. Those charges are dismissed, and we're deporting you. 349 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:37.720 We've gone eight minutes. Jim and I wish that we 350 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:39.799 had listened to each other a little bit more, but 351 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:40.559 I got to run. 352 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:48.880 Okay, man By, let me go quickly. Let's see it. 353 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:50.799 Matt is there. Matt. We tried to get to you 354 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:51.799 before you're there. 355 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:54.839 No, Yeah, yeah, I'm here. 356 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:55.480 How you doing? 357 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.079 I'm doing? But I got about two Matt Jason. 358 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:03.480 I'm close to the yeah, no worries. 359 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.359 I agree with you. Look, you know we have people 360 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:10.759 in this country. We have drugs pouring in and whether 361 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:14.799 it could be coming from China via through Mexico, or 362 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:19.640 it's going to be the importation of illegals that are 363 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:23.960 coming in and bringing imports, anybody who's here illegally has to. 364 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:27.160 Be held with that right liability. 365 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.759 They take twenty years here and doing good work, or 366 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.839 twenty years here and getting paths and around the loopholes, 367 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:39.279 they're here illegally. That's what it is, and if they've 368 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:41.680 broken the law, they have to go. The only part 369 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:46.000 I'll disagree with you on slightly then, is that you know, 370 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.839 and I am not a lawyer, but is that under 371 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:53.160 federal law, you know, rules of law, it's much easier 372 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:58.119 to redact no cameras in federal court, no cameras in 373 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:03.799 federal prisons. They can read that much easier federal law 374 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.440 and federal courts and hide what the what Ice is 375 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:11.000 doing and those numbers on a much larger degree. I'm 376 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.400 not saying I agree that it should be the case. 377 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:16.240 But I'm saying that that's the systematic and continue to 378 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:18.240 approach and go to the show. 379 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:20.519 Will. 380 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:22.920 First of all, none of these people are going to 381 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.079 do None of these people will being deported, are going 382 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:30.200 into federal court to litigate, many of them have detainer 383 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.160 orders on them. Many of them have been arrested, They're 384 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:35.640 being put on planes to leave the country. It's got 385 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:38.039 nothing to do with cameras in federal court. What I'm 386 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:42.119 saying is that the Trump administration would be smart to 387 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:46.640 basically every day give an accounting or the day after 388 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:50.400 and saying we functioned yesterday in eleven American cities. These 389 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:53.519 are the cities where our agents were yesterday. We arrested 390 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:58.440 this number, we detained this number in it. Amongst them 391 00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:01.359 were eleven people who have been charged with or convicted 392 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:04.039 of murder, eleven people, twelve people charged. 393 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:04.799 With convicted of rape. 394 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.319 Give the American people an understanding of what's going on, 395 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.079 where it's going on, and who's being affected. 396 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:12.599 That's called transparency. 397 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:17.039 I agree, I just don't see it happen. I agree, 398 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:19.880 but I just don't see it happening that transparency. 399 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:23.160 Yeah, but if. 400 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.960 You're transparent, if the Trump administration is stupid enough not 401 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:31.599