Speaker 1: It's a nice eze.
Speaker 2: Un Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3: All right, we're talking about what has been going on
Speaker 3: for the last few days in several American cities, and
Speaker 3: that are the ICE raids which have resulted in the deportation,
Speaker 3: well the attempted deportation of several hundred people who have
Speaker 3: been arrested and or detained. The Thrump administration continues to
Speaker 3: tell us that they are going after the worst of
Speaker 3: the folks who are here illegally, those who have been
Speaker 3: convicted of crimes, serious crimes, not things like jaywalking. And
Speaker 3: I am very critical, frankly, of the information that has
Speaker 3: come out now. I've I check every day to try
Speaker 3: to get as much information as possible. It's pretty clear
Speaker 3: to me that ICE has made a tactical decision that
Speaker 3: they will leak out information, specifically to media outlets that
Speaker 3: are favorable to their activities. I think they owe a
Speaker 3: responsibility to the American public as a whole to every
Speaker 3: day announce as publicly as possible and as transparently as
Speaker 3: possible what raids were conducted in what cities and what
Speaker 3: the results were up to and including the names of
Speaker 3: those people who are being deported and the crimes for
Speaker 3: which they had been convicted in or charged period. I
Speaker 3: think it's in their interest to get it out because
Speaker 3: you have the folks who are representing the immigrant community
Speaker 3: and defending and criticizing any raids of the community, basically
Speaker 3: using the people in that community who may be are
Speaker 3: here for the right reasons even though they here illegally.
Speaker 4: They're talking about they're gonna raid schools, They're gonna raid.
Speaker 3: Hospitals, and that just plays to the concerns that America
Speaker 3: has with what might be construed as over reaction.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 3: I don't know anyone who was opposed well, maybe self people,
Speaker 3: but I do still don't know anyone who's opposed to
Speaker 3: getting criminals out of this country who are here illegally.
Speaker 3: I mean, why would you be opposed to that? Do
Speaker 3: we not have enough criminals in America as it is?
Speaker 3: We have enough homegrown criminals. Okay, I'm not worried about
Speaker 3: people who are here as much. I'm worried about the
Speaker 3: criminals I'm not necessarily here. Worried about someone who's working
Speaker 3: under the table. Now should they stay here? I want
Speaker 3: to know more about those people. Okay, but they're if
Speaker 3: they're doing what they are saying they're doing, and I
Speaker 3: believe they are. Get the information out. Let's go to
Speaker 3: the phones.
Speaker 4: We're gonna to go to Elvis in Middleton, Massachusetts. Elvis,
Speaker 4: you are next on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 1: What's up, Dan, It's Telvis.
Speaker 4: You know we had the same We had the same
Speaker 4: problem before. Rob, you got it. You got to now
Speaker 4: spell Pelvis now, Rob.
Speaker 1: We're good, Yeah, we're good. But anyways, No, I just
Speaker 1: I just want to give a little bit of a
Speaker 1: quick insight. I know it could be it could be
Speaker 1: a lot length here, but I'll just give it to
Speaker 1: you real quick. I have a I had a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of the you know, some of these migrants working
Speaker 1: for me. I have a large scale landscape company north
Speaker 1: of Boston. I had a lot of them over here legally.
Speaker 1: Who are really disgusted by what the Biden administration has done.
Speaker 1: Because these these guys have been with me since two
Speaker 1: thousand and two, two thousand and three. They used to
Speaker 1: have to be here I legally ten years. They have
Speaker 1: to pay their way to get legal citizenship. Okay. Now,
Speaker 1: under the administration, they issued a ti N number tax identification,
Speaker 1: which is a Social Security number essentially for migrants coming
Speaker 1: over here, if they worked legal and paid a little
Speaker 1: bit of tax and stayed out of trouble, they were
Speaker 1: guaranteed citizenship one year. That was their voting rights and
Speaker 1: the citizenship. Now the problem with the stronghold and what
Speaker 1: the cartel has on a lot of these people are
Speaker 1: and I'm also a partner in some restaurant businesses, but
Speaker 1: you know, some of these people are over here scared
Speaker 1: to death because the cartel has a stronghold on the
Speaker 1: families back home. These people are here carrying out They're
Speaker 1: carrying out a certain criteria whatever the cartel wants. Some
Speaker 1: of these people are very innocent looking and acting, but
Speaker 1: they are doing a lot of nefarious things quietly behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. One of the guys that worked for me
Speaker 1: for two years was brought up. He got caught at
Speaker 1: North Store Mall by an Ice agent back in February.
Speaker 1: He was deported back in two thousand and nine for
Speaker 1: child rape and prostitution, and then he came back over
Speaker 1: here three years later. We hired him. He was putting
Speaker 1: in sixty hours a week laying brick for us. Nicest
Speaker 1: guy in the world on the surface. We had no
Speaker 1: idea what the background was. So the problem is some
Speaker 1: of these guys don't always look awe.
Speaker 4: How did they find how did they found he was here?
Speaker 1: He got deported in ice agent recognized him. They recognized
Speaker 1: him up but up at the sorry, the cheesecake factory.
Speaker 3: It just when when did that happen?
Speaker 4: If he was.
Speaker 1: Here and that happened, that happened last he was here
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. Right, he was deported under
Speaker 1: under whatever he was convicted of or whatever. Here he
Speaker 1: was deported in two thousand and eleven. I believe he
Speaker 1: came back over here two years later under a different alias.
Speaker 1: In twenty thirteen, we hired him myself and two other
Speaker 1: large companies. He lays a ton of brick, puts in
Speaker 1: sixty hours a week at thirty dollars an hour. He
Speaker 1: killed it. He's been around my kids, you know, he's
Speaker 1: been around everybody. We had no idea until last February,
Speaker 1: where someone recognized him, put them through the database, and
Speaker 1: that was it. I mean, this was a guy goes
Speaker 1: to church every Sunday, he plays the game the correct way.
Speaker 1: He had two sisters who work for a local fast
Speaker 1: food restaurant. They all look the part like they're doing
Speaker 1: the right thing. But the problem is a lot of
Speaker 1: them have either a stronghold. The church has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with this. The Church has a huge umbrella
Speaker 1: over a lot of these people, and they're the ones
Speaker 1: putting up the most fight right now to keep a
Speaker 1: lot of them here. But that particular instance was sickening
Speaker 1: because he's been around my Kase. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: was buying him launch, you know, every Friday, free launch,
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I mean, it seemed like the nicest
Speaker 1: guy in the world. The problem is there's some nefarious
Speaker 1: things that don't always look like on the surface. So
Speaker 1: my point is you and I can't walk into Canada
Speaker 1: with our hands open and get free everything. Were the
Speaker 1: only country who allows it, and there has to be
Speaker 1: a real vetting process intact and not something absolutely as
Speaker 1: you know. So that's all.
Speaker 4: Would let me just ask you this. I've been trying
Speaker 4: to argue this hour.
Speaker 3: I'm in favor of what Trump is doing, but I'm
Speaker 3: very upset that we're not getting more specific information. This
Speaker 3: should be a clearinghouse at ice in which they should say, okay,
Speaker 3: today they were arrested at seven hundred people fifteen You
Speaker 3: know three hundred people were detained. The breakdown is that
Speaker 3: in the following cities, arrest remained. In Los Angeles fifteen arrests,
Speaker 3: San Francisco twelve arrests.
Speaker 1: Whatever I think, I think you're right, it should be
Speaker 1: more transparent. And I don't agree with as much as
Speaker 1: I don't agree with anchor babies, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: my guys who came over here immediately when they were
Speaker 1: scared back. Now I want to say, like two thousand whatever,
Speaker 1: they come over, they immediately have three kids here so
Speaker 1: they can stay and they have their citizenship. I don't
Speaker 1: agree with anchor babies, but I also don't agree with
Speaker 1: ICE agents showing up It's a different topic, but showing
Speaker 1: up at the at the bus stations and taking children
Speaker 1: because their parents put them in that situation. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's not a good look for the rest of the
Speaker 1: children who are either on the bus or at the
Speaker 1: bus stop watching another.
Speaker 3: You're talking about local school buses that ain't okay, And
Speaker 3: when that happens, we'll deal with it.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're they're they're they're reporting. They're reporting that though,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. So if that, if that is
Speaker 1: happening anywhere, whether it's schools and other kids involved, saying
Speaker 1: that's crazy me on this, I have.
Speaker 3: Not seen that reported. I have seen newspaper stories that
Speaker 3: people don't read. Fear in the community, those people in
Speaker 3: the community who are fearful that young children.
Speaker 4: And then you have some dumb.
Speaker 1: And they're telling them about Anderson funds them and all them.
Speaker 4: Yes, well well no.
Speaker 5: Then you have some administrators, as some assistant superintendent who
Speaker 5: issues a statement under no circumstances will ICE officers.
Speaker 3: Be allowed to come in here and take elementary school students.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not happening, So they're preemptively doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, It's like it's like saying, we're fearful that
Speaker 5: the ICE officers are going to mistake the illegal aliens
Speaker 5: for aliens who are here peacefully from other planets, and
Speaker 5: that they have no authority to apprehend Martians or people
Speaker 5: who have come here peacefully from Mars.
Speaker 4: I mean, is it's made up out of home.
Speaker 1: But the workers who have a real reason, like I say,
Speaker 1: either a work visa or a real dedication to being here,
Speaker 1: are absolutely offended by what is going on right now
Speaker 1: by their you know, just people walking in and doing
Speaker 1: what they want.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad you made that point.
Speaker 4: Pelvis is always I appreciate your call. Thank you much.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's.
Speaker 4: Keep it rolling, everybody.
Speaker 3: Six one seven, two four ten thirty one line there,
Speaker 3: six one seven nine. I am going to try to
Speaker 3: pick up the pace here. I apologize something. The calls
Speaker 3: have been good, but I'm letting them go too long,
Speaker 3: and I want to hear from some of my female callers.
Speaker 3: Most of these guys are saying, yeah, they're they're with
Speaker 3: me in this. I want to see transparency, and I
Speaker 3: want to see it sooner rather than later. Back on
Speaker 3: night Side after this.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 4: Let's keep rolling. They're going to go to Matt. Matt,
Speaker 4: you were next one nights. I welcome.
Speaker 3: Well, if Matt isn't already, we're gonna put them on
Speaker 3: hold and we'll come back to Matt in the meantime.
Speaker 4: We'll go to Jim. Jim you were next on nights.
Speaker 6: I go ahead, Jim, Dan any thanks you take my call.
Speaker 6: I'll be brief. Uh, thank you, you're welcome. So I'll
Speaker 6: just admit that one of the really good things that
Speaker 6: I get. I listened to a lot of talk radio.
Speaker 6: Uh is I listen like a thief to if there's
Speaker 6: a scholar on a subject or an attorney who's specializes
Speaker 6: in a field of section of law. So they could
Speaker 6: publish all day long with what they want to publish,
Speaker 6: and it wouldn't have any meaning to me because I
Speaker 6: don't know the law. I don't know any it's very vague.
Speaker 6: It's kind of unexplored and vague. So I'm kind of
Speaker 6: looking to you to kind of I think you've tried
Speaker 6: cases in federal court before, so I know you're you're
Speaker 6: kind of a legal scholar. So I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Would consider myself a legal scholar. I have not tried
Speaker 3: cases in federal quod. I'm a member of the bar
Speaker 3: here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 4: Uh, And I've.
Speaker 3: More cases in federal court than than than most lawyers
Speaker 3: have tried cases in federal court. That's not the point.
Speaker 3: The point is, what's your question? I'll be happy to
Speaker 3: answer it for you. Well, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't even know enough about it to ask if
Speaker 6: uh an intelligent question? These are the.
Speaker 1: Nobody because these people.
Speaker 3: Give me a Jim Jim let me explain something to
Speaker 3: you which might help for you.
Speaker 4: Okay, let me give you a little tutorial.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't I'm not trying to suggest that I'm
Speaker 3: the smartest guy in the world.
Speaker 4: But what I'm telling you is this.
Speaker 3: If people come into this country illegally, and their illegal
Speaker 3: presence here is compounded by the fact that they have
Speaker 3: committed crimes in a in the in America, including including
Speaker 3: uh serious crimes like the guy that killed h. Lincoln
Speaker 3: Riley the young woman and in Georgia, they can be
Speaker 3: tried and convicted here just like a US citizen, and
Speaker 3: they also, upon the completion of this sentence, can be
Speaker 3: automatically deported. People who are here illegally can be automatically
Speaker 3: deported if if, if somehow.
Speaker 6: Can they can they be deported prior to the completion
Speaker 6: that can? It can? Part of the can their punishment
Speaker 6: be to be deported? Is that and serve their sense
Speaker 6: in a form? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It depends.
Speaker 6: How do we know what they're doing? You ask the questions, says,
Speaker 6: where how do we know whether they're doing?
Speaker 4: Want the answer or if you just want to talk,
Speaker 4: I'll listen to you. Go ahead, go ahead, talk. I'll listen.
Speaker 6: There's other people in the Massachusetts area that should be
Speaker 6: calling in about this stuff.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 6: There's lots of law schools and students there. They should
Speaker 6: be calling in to talk about this. Instead they clam up.
Speaker 6: So come on, we don't know how how do you
Speaker 6: how do you know if they're doing the right thing
Speaker 6: if we don't know what the law on it is.
Speaker 4: So, Jim, Jim, you're not listening to me. Okay, come
Speaker 4: on listening to me.
Speaker 3: I've explained to you that if someone is here illegally, okay,
Speaker 3: and they come to the attention of the authorities, they
Speaker 3: are eminently deportable. Okay, eminently deportable. If someone comes here
Speaker 3: and works under the table for twenty years and no
Speaker 3: one finds out about it, they're not going to get deported.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: If someone comes here and there is a program that
Speaker 3: one of our callers just mentioned a few years ago
Speaker 3: which was in place which allowed people who could prove
Speaker 3: they had worked here for ten years legally, that they
Speaker 3: had worked here i should say, and had a taxpayer
Speaker 3: identification number, uh, and that they had paid their taxes
Speaker 3: and all of that, they could almost then get on
Speaker 3: a road to being here legally.
Speaker 4: But when you're talking about someone who's here illegally and
Speaker 4: they commit a.
Speaker 3: Crime to port him, to port him or try him first,
Speaker 3: make them serve their time here. There's a story that
Speaker 3: one of the Boston newspaper's going to have tomorrow. A
Speaker 3: guy killed his wife. He played in Boston in Massachusetts
Speaker 3: in two thousand and five. He pled guilty to murder
Speaker 3: in the second degree. Okay, I played guilty. He was
Speaker 3: paroled recently, and thank god Ice got him, and he's
Speaker 3: going to be deported now if they happen to catch him.
Speaker 3: If he comes back into the country, he's automatically deportable.
Speaker 4: I can.
Speaker 3: All of these cases are complicated, but I can answer
Speaker 3: any one of them for you, Jim, if you want.
Speaker 6: Well, okay, well, I really don't know even, like I said,
Speaker 6: I don't know enough about it to even ask an
Speaker 6: intelligent question. But in certain we're depending on people who
Speaker 6: do know about the law to kind of tell us
Speaker 6: what should or shouldn't happen in this or it may
Speaker 6: be dependent on a judge or a jury. Do they
Speaker 6: have a right to a jury trial? You know, do
Speaker 6: they even get a trial? I mean, can they just
Speaker 6: be I mean, it seems like they're not getting a
Speaker 6: fair hearing if I don't know if they're even entitled
Speaker 6: to that. Are they entitled to a fair hearing?
Speaker 3: They are entitled while they are physically present in the
Speaker 3: United States. If they commit a crime in the United States,
Speaker 3: they are entitled to the same, the same benefits.
Speaker 4: I guess you would claim.
Speaker 3: They can go to vote, they can do process, they
Speaker 3: can invoke a Fifth Amendment, they can get a lawyer
Speaker 3: in all of that, so they do they There have
Speaker 3: been court cases which extend due process to people by
Speaker 3: the mere physical presence here fact of whether they're a
Speaker 3: citizen or an illegal Okay, but all of these cases
Speaker 3: have different twist and turn. Sometimes there's a difference to
Speaker 3: someone who was here illegally as opposed to someone who
Speaker 3: was here legally and their visa has expired. So you
Speaker 3: just got to listen all the different cases.
Speaker 6: So it sounds to me like, at a bare minimum,
Speaker 6: all these guys that they're just loading on the planes,
Speaker 6: these guys have already out run out of rope. Yes,
Speaker 6: or if not, if they make a mistake of deporting
Speaker 6: one of them and they and they really shouldn't have
Speaker 6: been deported, then That's a big problem, isn't it.
Speaker 4: If they make the mistake of deporting someone who's an
Speaker 4: American citizen, Yeah, that's a huge mistake. But if they
Speaker 4: if they.
Speaker 3: Deport someone because they're here illegally, I don't consider that
Speaker 3: a problem at all.
Speaker 6: Well, it's not about I'm not asking what you you know.
Speaker 6: We can't go by what you know. If you went
Speaker 6: by what everybody personal preference, who knows what would happen.
Speaker 6: I'm asking a matter of law. Let's say they've been
Speaker 6: charged with the crime, and they're they're they've had a hearing,
Speaker 6: they will release on their own recognizance, and they're waiting
Speaker 6: a trial. Uh and and but but Ice picks them
Speaker 6: up and just deports them.
Speaker 3: They don't they don't know. If they're waiting a trial,
Speaker 3: they're not going to be deported. But if they're, if they.
Speaker 6: Are, really, are you sure.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 3: full answer. The problem with you, Jim, is you ask
Speaker 3: questions you don't listen to answers. So let's assume the
Speaker 3: person has been charged with, I don't know, drinking in public, okay,
Speaker 3: uh and and they are illegal, I don't think there's
Speaker 3: anything which would prevent this country from saying, and this
Speaker 3: administration from saying, Look, they're here legally.
Speaker 4: We don't care. We're not going to spend the.
Speaker 3: Time on convicting him on a on a drunk driving
Speaker 3: or drinking in public charge. Put him on a plane
Speaker 3: and get rid of him. You treat that person differently
Speaker 3: than someone who is murdered or rape someone. You don't
Speaker 3: want to say to someone.
Speaker 6: I thought you said they're entitled the due process.
Speaker 3: Yes they are, and the due process is you're here illegally.
Speaker 3: We've proven you're here illegally. We're not going to keep
Speaker 3: you here and feed you and put you uh and
Speaker 3: you you do not have the same level of due
Speaker 3: process as a citizen. We're deporting you. We will dismiss
Speaker 3: the charges of drunk of your drinking in public, your
Speaker 3: minor offense. Those charges are dismissed, and we're deporting you.
Speaker 3: We've gone eight minutes. Jim and I wish that we
Speaker 3: had listened to each other a little bit more, but
Speaker 3: I got to run.
Speaker 4: Okay, man By, let me go quickly. Let's see it.
Speaker 4: Matt is there. Matt. We tried to get to you
Speaker 4: before you're there.
Speaker 8: No, Yeah, yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 9: How you doing?
Speaker 4: I'm doing? But I got about two Matt Jason.
Speaker 1: I'm close to the yeah, no worries.
Speaker 8: I agree with you. Look, you know we have people
Speaker 8: in this country. We have drugs pouring in and whether
Speaker 8: it could be coming from China via through Mexico, or
Speaker 8: it's going to be the importation of illegals that are
Speaker 8: coming in and bringing imports, anybody who's here illegally has to.
Speaker 7: Be held with that right liability.
Speaker 8: They take twenty years here and doing good work, or
Speaker 8: twenty years here and getting paths and around the loopholes,
Speaker 8: they're here illegally. That's what it is, and if they've
Speaker 8: broken the law, they have to go. The only part
Speaker 8: I'll disagree with you on slightly then, is that you know,
Speaker 8: and I am not a lawyer, but is that under
Speaker 8: federal law, you know, rules of law, it's much easier
Speaker 8: to redact no cameras in federal court, no cameras in
Speaker 8: federal prisons. They can read that much easier federal law
Speaker 8: and federal courts and hide what the what Ice is
Speaker 8: doing and those numbers on a much larger degree. I'm
Speaker 8: not saying I agree that it should be the case.
Speaker 8: But I'm saying that that's the systematic and continue to
Speaker 8: approach and go to the show.
Speaker 4: Will.
Speaker 3: First of all, none of these people are going to
Speaker 3: do None of these people will being deported, are going
Speaker 3: into federal court to litigate, many of them have detainer
Speaker 3: orders on them. Many of them have been arrested, They're
Speaker 3: being put on planes to leave the country. It's got
Speaker 3: nothing to do with cameras in federal court. What I'm
Speaker 3: saying is that the Trump administration would be smart to
Speaker 3: basically every day give an accounting or the day after
Speaker 3: and saying we functioned yesterday in eleven American cities. These
Speaker 3: are the cities where our agents were yesterday. We arrested
Speaker 3: this number, we detained this number in it. Amongst them
Speaker 3: were eleven people who have been charged with or convicted
Speaker 3: of murder, eleven people, twelve people charged.
Speaker 4: With convicted of rape.
Speaker 3: Give the American people an understanding of what's going on,
Speaker 3: where it's going on, and who's being affected.
Speaker 4: That's called transparency.
Speaker 8: I agree, I just don't see it happen. I agree,
Speaker 8: but I just don't see it happening that transparency.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if.
Speaker 3: You're transparent, if the Trump administration is stupid enough not
Speaker 3: to be. They will eventually pay a price in the
Speaker 3: court of public opinion because the American people are supporting
Speaker 3: what they're doing right now. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: I saw a pull out of the New York Times,
Speaker 3: which I have in front of me here, Matt, which
Speaker 3: essentially said that do you support or oppose each of
Speaker 3: the following deporting immigrants who are here illegally and have
Speaker 3: criminal records? Support eighty seven percent.
Speaker 4: Oppose it.
Speaker 3: Why anyone would oppose deporting immigrants who are here illegally
Speaker 3: and have criminal records. The vast majority of the people's.
Speaker 8: What No, No, they're part of the urbany, you know,
Speaker 8: majority from.
Speaker 3: Maybe fair enough? All right, I got around. I wish
Speaker 3: you'd been a short on time. You got three minutes.
Speaker 3: I came back to you. I don't know where you
Speaker 3: were the first time. But when you do call in,
Speaker 3: make sure you're hanging on the phone, because you never
Speaker 3: know when you're gonna call your number.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, take you back to.
Speaker 4: Talk to you soon. Here comes the news at the
Speaker 4: bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: It's night Side with.
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Speaker 3: Okay, the only line's opened, six one, seven, Dave, you
Speaker 3: were next on nights.
Speaker 4: I go right ahead.
Speaker 9: Yeah, n I I'm just I'm surprised at all the
Speaker 9: attention and the concern about how this is being done.
Speaker 9: But when Biden was letting them invade our country, my
Speaker 9: poor governor had to ship them to every stupid blue
Speaker 9: state in the country and get rid of them all
Speaker 9: and get them out in Texas and not a peep
Speaker 9: in the media.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that. Look, I agree with you, Dave.
Speaker 3: I think you know, I actually thought that Abbott did
Speaker 3: the right thing because the the wave of illegals that
Speaker 3: came across the border, which is so great, it was
Speaker 3: you know, it was fine for us here in Massachusetts
Speaker 3: because it didn't affect us. But as soon as the
Speaker 3: Santas flew those immigrants, those migrants into Martha's Vineyard, first
Speaker 3: of all state in Marthin's Vineyard, I think it was
Speaker 3: thirty six hours. We've talked about this before, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they bust him off the island. They put him on
Speaker 3: that boat, that that ferry back to the mainland.
Speaker 4: Within thirty They gave.
Speaker 3: Him like a sweatshirt, a hat, and a sandwich and
Speaker 3: said you'd be very welcome here. But we just have
Speaker 3: no room for you. It was ridiculous. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Oh it was. It was virtue signaling, the epitome of
Speaker 3: virtue signaling. People like that, And I think that Abbot
Speaker 3: Abbot made If Abbot had not done that, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't think that that people like Eric Adams would
Speaker 3: have would have been discomforted. So yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: The media wasn't going to do it, and I think
Speaker 3: Abbott did it out of desperation. I don't blame him.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean if he let the ball stay and
Speaker 9: he would have made life miserable for US Texas too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean true, of course, as well as the
Speaker 3: expense that you've occurred. We've spent two billion dollars here
Speaker 3: in Massachusetts on housing migrants who have come up, and
Speaker 3: that's causing. Now our governor, Governor mar Healey is saying
Speaker 3: we are not a sanctuary state.
Speaker 9: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: I don't know if.
Speaker 3: Word had ever spread down to Texas, but that's true.
Speaker 3: She's now on record and she's saying that that that
Speaker 3: our that she's willing to cooperate with ICE on the
Speaker 3: removal of violent criminals, you know, immigrants who have committed crimes.
Speaker 9: Also, these people that haven't committed crimes, they're taking jobs
Speaker 9: away from Americans and they're working under the table and
Speaker 9: the work.
Speaker 3: I think the administration is smart enough to start with
Speaker 3: the real bad armbrace.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I wish I wish that they would publicize more
Speaker 3: fully what they're doing.
Speaker 9: So that there's a couple of businesses in Ohio manufacturing
Speaker 9: places and we're just very happy to see those hats
Speaker 9: come so they can work for nothing instead of having
Speaker 9: to pay union wages.
Speaker 4: No, I agree with that. I understand that.
Speaker 3: We We talked to a fellow earlier today who was saying,
Speaker 3: how that that a lot of the migrants who came
Speaker 3: here uh and tried to do it legally.
Speaker 4: Are upset with the.
Speaker 9: I've talked a lot in Texas. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 9: of I believe that Hispanic here there here that way legally,
Speaker 9: you know, and they're totally miffed at UH and there
Speaker 9: for Trump. And you see how Ted Cruz won Texas
Speaker 9: and uh Trump won Texas. I mean it would a blowout.
Speaker 4: And I agree with you.
Speaker 3: And of course those the media was saying that those
Speaker 3: states were going to be very close. Do you remember
Speaker 3: the pollster in Iowa, who had Harris winning by I
Speaker 3: think eight points two days before the election. Now, I
Speaker 3: think that was an absolute phony bowl. And I guess
Speaker 3: she's resigned, uh from the Des Moines register and will
Speaker 3: no longer function as upholster. This is this was abominable
Speaker 3: stuff that went on absolutely. Hey David, I got a
Speaker 3: bunch of calls. I gotta keep rolling here. Enjoyed, enjoyed
Speaker 3: our conversation.
Speaker 1: I thank you, Okay, thank you there in good night
Speaker 1: you too.
Speaker 3: My friend one line at six months, seven two five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty and got one at six one, seven, nine
Speaker 3: three ten thirty. Let me get I don't want to wait,
Speaker 3: make people way too long here. Let me go to
Speaker 3: Phil fill in Boston. Hey, Phil, next on night Side.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't I hope this is related that little twist.
Speaker 10: Do you remember the Elijah Gonzalez Cuban young man and.
Speaker 4: Alien Gonzalez.
Speaker 3: Gonzalez he was a twelve year old kid who would
Speaker 3: think he was He might have been younger, he might
Speaker 3: have been tenor or nine or ten, but he was
Speaker 3: a little boy. He was brought here by his mom,
Speaker 3: who escaped from Cuba.
Speaker 4: She drowned at sea.
Speaker 3: She died trying to add him to freedom, and Castro
Speaker 3: insisted that he'd be brought back. And I remember it
Speaker 3: was April of two thousand. April of two thousand, I
Speaker 3: was at Logan Airport getting on a plane to go
Speaker 3: to Montreal, and I watched the agents, the federal agents.
Speaker 4: With guns drawn, gun is drawn.
Speaker 3: And the look of terror on that kid's face. He
Speaker 3: had been taken in by relatives in Florida, and they
Speaker 3: went in and they rested him, rested, wr not arrested,
Speaker 3: but rested him from that family. And then he was
Speaker 3: sent back to Cuba and now he is a loyal member.
Speaker 3: I think of the Castro government as an adult historic
Speaker 3: civil engineer.
Speaker 10: But they're making that was getting a lot of publicity.
Speaker 10: You know, I don't see anybody. I don't want to
Speaker 10: get into pall of this involved. But no one said
Speaker 10: anything about that. But first of all, thank you for
Speaker 10: knowing all this stuff. But it's with the fourteenth Amendment,
Speaker 10: and I don't know if I want to talk about it,
Speaker 10: I don't want it's about it. But it wasn't not
Speaker 10: for free slaves, so they couldn't be thrown out of
Speaker 10: the country. And I guess in fact they weren't citizens.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing, well, they were not citizens until the Emancipation Proclamation. Okay,
Speaker 3: And there is you know, there's dispute as to I
Speaker 3: don't think that. I don't I think that when you know,
Speaker 3: we have historically allowed birthright citizenship now for about one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty or so years or more. Uh And
Speaker 3: And I think the Trump administration has an uphill battle,
Speaker 3: but I think they're trying to They're trying to make
Speaker 3: a case of it, and I think that's they want
Speaker 3: to get the issue to the US Supreme Court. We'll
Speaker 3: have to say how well it works out. I mean,
Speaker 3: the problem is that when the fourteenth Amendment was passed,
Speaker 3: we didn't have airplanes that could fly pregnant women from
Speaker 3: China here by the weekend they're about to deliver. And
Speaker 3: that's what's been going on. So I don't know. And
Speaker 3: I also want to know the legislative history. What happens
Speaker 3: oftentimes in Supreme Court cases is not only do you
Speaker 3: have to read the statute that passed, but you have
Speaker 3: to go back and actually read the debate that was
Speaker 3: on the floor of the House or Senate at a time.
Speaker 3: It's called the legislative history, and sometimes you can find
Speaker 3: in legislative history someone saying that, look, this is the
Speaker 3: benefit the children of people who were brought here against
Speaker 3: their will, goodwill. I'm not an expert on that particular
Speaker 3: aspect of the fourteenth Amendment, but I think it's an
Speaker 3: uphill battle for the trumpet minute stration.
Speaker 4: But he's following through on what his pledgures are.
Speaker 10: This system is being I take an advantage of it,
Speaker 10: and I don't. I'll quickly on years ago, I talked
Speaker 10: to this guy and he said he was on the
Speaker 10: cruise ship and he met her woman with her work
Speaker 10: there and she said to her him as her the
Speaker 10: husband and the wife. He said, because you were you know,
Speaker 10: I'll try to become a citizen. You think you can
Speaker 10: sign this document saying that you will support me when
Speaker 10: I came in and the guy signed it. So she
Speaker 10: was and she wasn't illegal, but this guy signed a
Speaker 10: document and she eventually got a prood to become a
Speaker 10: citizen because of this guy. Another guy told me it's
Speaker 10: called kangaroo or what they call it jumping citizenship, where
Speaker 10: they can just they can have one person become a
Speaker 10: citizen and then they have their cousins come over their uncles.
Speaker 3: Called it's called immigrants. It's called immigrant chain chain.
Speaker 4: Right right, immigration. Yeah. Anyways, Like again, we got to
Speaker 4: tighten up. We got to tighten up. We got to
Speaker 4: know who was coming in the country.
Speaker 3: We want people to we want people to come here legally,
Speaker 3: but we want them.
Speaker 10: To call here whatever. I will lucky to be. I
Speaker 10: understand that. But you know, listen, where are we gonna go.
Speaker 10: You can go back, you can go to Island. You're
Speaker 10: a citizen of Island. I believe I got nowhere to go.
Speaker 3: I don't like the tax rate over there. It's a
Speaker 3: it's a pretty it's a tough tax rate. Hey, Phil,
Speaker 3: thank you much, man. I appreciate your calling.
Speaker 1: You have a great one.
Speaker 3: Good night, all right, take a quick break. I got
Speaker 3: Paul in Southey coming up and Dave in Montreal.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: Folks joined the conversation, and we were very short of
Speaker 3: women callers tonight, which surprises me on this but that's okay. Uh,
Speaker 3: some nights we have a preponderance of one or the other.
Speaker 3: I'll throw the numbers out if you want to try
Speaker 3: to give it, give it a shot. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
Speaker 3: thirty six one, seven, nine thirty coming back on night Side.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 2: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get them all in.
Speaker 3: Paul in South Boston next to the Nice I go ahead, Paul,
Speaker 3: you are on the air, Go right.
Speaker 7: Ahead, Hi, Dan, Nice to talk to you again.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Paul's what you're taking.
Speaker 3: All of this.
Speaker 1: I'll be real quick, so I know you have some
Speaker 1: of the calls you want to get in.
Speaker 7: But anyway, I just wanted to say that they all
Speaker 7: have to go, even the ones that are not criminals.
Speaker 7: This has been four years of talk. I live in
Speaker 7: public housing, Dan, and people are taken away from resources
Speaker 7: from people like me, and that's not right.
Speaker 1: It's not fair.
Speaker 7: I followed you for the last several years that you
Speaker 7: were doing stories on illegal immigration here and it's discussed
Speaker 7: and they're still coming. I've seen it today on YouTube.
Speaker 7: A young lady with a new book like a year
Speaker 7: old baby in her I'm and another one with a
Speaker 7: seven year old and they're cutting to trying to get
Speaker 7: to bar wire and the Marines had to push them,
Speaker 7: you know, send them back. How can you risk hurting
Speaker 7: a little infant baby? But you can't let everybody in,
Speaker 7: Dan do it the right way, like you say, and
Speaker 7: that's how we want do it the right way. I
Speaker 7: have no problem with immigrants. I have a problem with
Speaker 7: the legal immigrant, but I also blame the government to
Speaker 7: allow it to happen.
Speaker 4: Well, not this administration at this point. So let's write
Speaker 4: it with Biden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's give him a chance. Let's give him a chance,
Speaker 3: and let's let's encourage the Trump administration to be transparent.
Speaker 3: He just signed an executive order ordering everything about the
Speaker 3: assassinations of JFK, RF and MLK. I say, hats off
Speaker 3: to that. He's the first president who has done that,
Speaker 3: the only president who's done that. Let's treat the the
Speaker 3: deportation of these ego immigrants with the same amount of.
Speaker 7: Transparency and one more them.
Speaker 11: Dan.
Speaker 7: Do you think the media is going to try to
Speaker 7: destroy Trump to continue on this thing down the road eventually?
Speaker 3: I think the media has no clue, uh, particularly in
Speaker 3: national media. I listened to some of the Sunday interview
Speaker 3: talk shows. It's like their outrage, Well, how could this happen?
Speaker 3: How could that happen? Yeah, wake up, they live in
Speaker 3: they live in in in in gated communities. They're not
Speaker 3: impacted by this. Uh and all they all they do
Speaker 3: is virtue signal. That's all.
Speaker 7: Thank you Dan, Thanks Paul.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Thought you soon. David, Montreal, Dave, welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 4: How are you, sir?
Speaker 7: And I'm good.
Speaker 11: Thanks. I just wanted to say, as you know, I'm
Speaker 11: in Montreal and we border are kind of the borders,
Speaker 11: the US border, sure, USC and also we so we're
Speaker 11: like a suburb of the United States, but we're you know,
Speaker 11: everybody knows we're some of the British colony. And if
Speaker 11: you guys were feeling no, no, but if you guys
Speaker 11: are feeling the impact of the immigrants, we would be
Speaker 11: feeling it too. Where with in terms of crime, prostitution,
Speaker 11: et cetera. The immigration situation has been going on for
Speaker 11: one hundred years. It's so this thing about all of
Speaker 11: a sudden, the immigration and they're coming to taking jobs,
Speaker 11: they're killing people. Bernard Kirk, you're the police commissioner of
Speaker 11: New York. Had a nanny, I remember, and she was illegal.
Speaker 11: And there's so many others out there that have nineties
Speaker 11: and people working for them. You can't get rid of
Speaker 11: everybody there's some good people in that miss mix. We're
Speaker 11: just trying to get away from a bad situation, and
Speaker 11: they have no.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you listening to my show,
Speaker 3: but no one is disputing that they are not good,
Speaker 3: decent people in the mix. But there's there's three sets
Speaker 3: of people here, Dave one. Immigrants who have come here
Speaker 3: legally and are going through the process legally. I'm with
Speaker 3: them all the way.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Then you have people who have come here illegally and
Speaker 3: who are trying to function properly, but still come here
Speaker 3: legally illegally. I got a problem with that because I
Speaker 3: don't want them to be in front of people who
Speaker 3: are waiting around the world to do the right thing.
Speaker 3: And then we have illegals who have come here and
Speaker 3: committed horrific crimes, including drug smuggling, murder, rape. I want them.
Speaker 4: I want them out of here yesterday.
Speaker 11: And I agree with you one hundred percent. But the
Speaker 11: second example you gave are those are the people that
Speaker 11: are most It sounds like those are the ones that
Speaker 11: are here because those are the ones that are in
Speaker 11: all over. I should say that they're trying to make
Speaker 11: an impact and change their lives. If it was the
Speaker 11: third Like you said, these people who were in here
Speaker 11: doing crime, etc. Every major city would be inundated with
Speaker 11: huge crime from these guys. We're not talking.
Speaker 4: About major cities in America are inundated with crime. Go
Speaker 4: to New York.
Speaker 3: Go to New York and ride the subway, but don't
Speaker 3: stand too close to the edge of the subway or
Speaker 3: someone's going to push you in front of a moving train.
Speaker 3: To go to Chicago and walk around on the South
Speaker 3: Side some night and and good luck not getting shot.
Speaker 3: Come on, Chicago is a free fire zone. It's more
Speaker 3: dangerous to live in Chicago than to be on the
Speaker 3: ground in the Middle East. As a US military personnel.
Speaker 11: I agree, but that's because they allowed it to get
Speaker 11: out of hand for years and years and nobody did
Speaker 11: it that nobody did anything. Those social programs generation it
Speaker 11: becomes generation programs.
Speaker 3: What do you mean, no social progress? We get social programs.
Speaker 3: Something ying Yang down here?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 11: No, yes, what not? It's places like Chicago. It's a
Speaker 11: lot of nonprofit. The government should have went in their
Speaker 11: feet first and took over and put in some heavy
Speaker 11: lip social programs in certain areas where they have something.
Speaker 3: The only people were more social programs than us are
Speaker 3: the Canadians.
Speaker 4: Dave and I don't know. It's tell that great. Let
Speaker 4: me give you let me Dave like one more, Dave, Dave,
Speaker 4: do me a favor. Have you called before? And a yeah?
Speaker 4: Never called before?
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, a round the applause from my
Speaker 3: studio audience.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I got one other call I got to take. I
Speaker 3: want you to call back more often, more frequently. We're
Speaker 3: gonna have some great conversations, you and me. I mean
Speaker 3: that honestly. Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 11: I love your soul, bro, because I listened to a
Speaker 11: lot of the radio and you're the only one that's
Speaker 11: out there. Who's who's you know, you're playing fields pretty
Speaker 11: level doing That's that what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, and you will help me keep it
Speaker 3: more level.
Speaker 4: Thank you, my friend. We will talk to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks all right, but thanks.
Speaker 3: A good one. Albert and Dorchester. Albert, we're very tight
Speaker 3: on time. I'm not sure how much time we have left.
Speaker 3: Maybe Rob will tell me, maybe he won't. What's going on?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 1: Then? How you doing today?
Speaker 4: How much time? Rob? One minute? Okay, go ahead, Albert?
Speaker 1: Then I just wanna I just wanna say I wish
Speaker 1: I had more time. Then I agree with you about Trisparency,
Speaker 1: which I don't think it's gonna happen. I actually email
Speaker 1: you with the copy of the Act of ninety six.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're yes, have.
Speaker 4: It in front of me as a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: and I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that tomorrow night, and if you want
Speaker 3: to call back tomorrow night, I'm going to read that
Speaker 3: as well as the Cornell Law Review article that is
Speaker 3: that's associated with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, I would definitely. I'll definitely listen. I
Speaker 1: listen to you every day. I will definitely call tomorrow
Speaker 1: if you do talk about it because I wish I
Speaker 1: had more time. Tarie. Yes, yeah, he's a problem.
Speaker 3: Here's the problem, Albert. I'm flat out of time. Literally literally,
Speaker 3: I'm going to read this article. Let's talk tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: Okay, I will definitely call you lost, Thank you much.
Speaker 4: All right, We're done for the night.
Speaker 3: I want to thank Rob, I want to thank Maria
Speaker 3: to want to thank all the callers. I'll be on
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