WEBVTT 1 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:33.600 And did somebody give in and man in this joint 2 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:37.439 for calling all beings. I got my homie right here. 3 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:43.920 What your name is, Bostina and I'm DJ. Let's let's 4 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:46.560 break it down. We got the homegirls that are in 5 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:48.240 the chat. Let me see who we got up in 6 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:49.159 this joint right here? 7 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:53.159 We got uh, well, Boston be is here, Miss Jessica 8 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:58.840 and Beezy Julie. We got Mike and oh. 9 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:05.760 I love it. It's con me. I love that one. 10 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.799 All right, let's get down with a part of people. 11 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:13.680 Let's talk about this gentleman right here. He's part of 12 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:17.719 the Tom CPU show. As you can see. Yah, everybody 13 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.200 know that he's on in the mornings with Tom Cpu. 14 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:26.560 He is a resident of the city of Canton. And 15 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:32.840 the more dialogue that you have with Mike, and particularly 16 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:38.120 if you have like a personal phone conversation dialogue with Mike, 17 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.840 you will realize how brilliant that he is and how 18 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:46.560 many of the dots that he has connected with regard 19 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:51.640 to people that are not only central figures in this case, 20 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:56.920 but tangential figures to those primary figures in the case. 21 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:58.920 And so I was out jogging one day and he 22 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.959 was kind of telling me about some of these and 23 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.239 just blew me away. So I was like, I think 24 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.200 we had already booked him at that point, so it 25 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:09.800 was it wasn't material. We were still going to have 26 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:13.439 him on, but I was just like, Wow, he really 27 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:17.759 really understands the players in this case and is just 28 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:21.800 a great analyst and is a credit to the CPU show. 29 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:27.080 So without further a dizzle part of people put it 30 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:30.960 damn peanut hands together for my. 31 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.960 Man, busted money. 32 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:44.000 Somebody for his brother. Yeh man, I'll give it you. Yes, 33 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:51.080 it seems like we've had this book for like a month, 34 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.159 but it's only been a week. We've been talking for 35 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:55.120 a month. Yeah, we've been talking. 36 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.560 Yeah, and then our friend Jimmy booked you on his 37 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:03.280 show what's it called Anti the Anti deb Show, and 38 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:05.879 we wanted to make sure that we didn't have you 39 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.960 on in advance of him because we love Anti Deb 40 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:11.879 so uh and we don't want to play any of 41 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:14.960 that content creator both if you know what I'm. 42 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:18.759 Saying, I know, I know. Yeah, it's all about the love, man, 43 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.360 Love give the love. I don't really I don't have 44 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:23.360 any room for hate in my heart. Man. I was 45 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:28.479 you know when I was judge. Well, she's a little 46 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:31.479 soft spot for me, but I actually feel bad for 47 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:34.199 you know, I don't like hate her, but she's got 48 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:36.840 to be in a situation where you're just like, how 49 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:38.960 can you do that? What is what do they have 50 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:41.680 on you? Or what are you thinking? Because the thought 51 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.439 process to me is just out of the loop, just 52 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.919 doesn't make any sense. And I'm not the only one. Obviously, 53 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:52.520 there's professional lawyers el E's, Leo's, you know, retired judges 54 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.599 that to be a court TV that Justice Serves show 55 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:00.120 with Baden and the other lady they have Baden and 56 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.599 I forget the other one that Michael. But anyways, everybody's 57 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:05.680 weighing in on some of these decisions that she has, 58 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:08.000 and it validates kind of the way we all think, 59 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:11.199 like from last year, Like the more eyes that are 60 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:15.879 on that from last year came forward. I just think that, uh, 61 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:18.639 she's really under a microscope. I don't realize that she 62 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.360 realizes how much of a microscope she might be under. 63 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:24.800 Can we ask you to We're gonna ask We're gonna 64 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.600 have the attorneys on on Sunday and we're gonna ask 65 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:32.319 them about remedies that the Karen Reid team may have 66 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:34.879 based on these some of these rulings. But if I 67 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.800 would ask you to step into her mind, and I 68 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:41.879 want you to pretend that your judge Bev and you're 69 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.199 sitting in your living room, and you know, as Melanie says, 70 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:48.000 she's probably having some sort of a white claw, you know, 71 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:49.600 or some sort of a glass. 72 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:50.360 Of Chevalley or something. 73 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:55.079 What do you think that she's thinking about herself and 74 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:58.160 this situation. What do you think is going through her mind? 75 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.839 I don't think she looks at social media. I know 76 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:07.160 that I know that she looks out that window when 77 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:10.480 she's on the bench a lot to see if last 78 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:12.920 year after there was crowds out there. That that I 79 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:14.319 think offends her a little bit. 80 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:14.959 Uh. 81 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:20.399 She's a narcissist. She wants complete control of everything, and 82 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:22.120 she's trying to figure out a way to win this 83 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.639 case and all costs under the legal umbrella that she 84 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.680 holds and where you know, where she's appointed. I would 85 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:32.000 have an attitude like, well, I really don't have any 86 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.519 accountability to anybody except by governance counsel, and they're not 87 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:38.279 gonna ever gonna throw me off, So I'm gonna ride 88 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.360 the next five or six years out, do what I 89 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.279 get to do, help these people out. I'm a hack. 90 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.240 She's you know, where's my white law? Who's my husband? 91 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.519 I get my beach house. You know, I just go 92 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:52.279 from there. I don't see any other reason if you 93 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:54.160 look at any other court, or even the one next 94 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:56.240 to her, where they can just stand up and object 95 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.959 and either sustained right there or not. And we're going 96 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.480 to the sidebar every single time, and it's just a 97 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.639 it's just a war. And then not give her the headphones. 98 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:10.079 Now she's got an US, right she yeah, she loves 99 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.800 us falling. Not absolutely, she's got MS to get up 100 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:16.519 out of a chair to walk to the sidebar, but 101 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.240 maybe five times a day, six times, seven times a 102 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:22.480 day on a you know that wears on you. You know, 103 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:25.000 give her the headset. They gave her a brand new TV. 104 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.879 The TV got approved, which is I think you should 105 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:29.439 leave one up on one side and what up on 106 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:32.079 the other side because you don't have Paul o'keith looking 107 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.319 like twisting his neck. You know, obviously we took care 108 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:37.040 of that. But to give someone that has a handicap 109 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:41.959 uh issue, that makes no sense to give me your 110 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:46.279 hair and adeus makes those we give people interpreters every 111 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:50.800 day in these courtrooms, and we can't give Karen. And 112 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:52.120 that's what baffles me. 113 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:52.680 What is this? 114 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:56.360 Where is this thought process coming from? Like the other 115 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.399 I can't judge we actually make a situation like that 116 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:03.040 and some of the denials and the motions and the 117 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:07.160 vois And I'm just like, I should be a law 118 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:09.199 student because I've taken three years a law in the 119 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:11.879 last three years. I kind of know what I kind 120 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:13.199 of know what's going on, but I kind of don't 121 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.720 know what's going on. I need validation from a real 122 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:17.680 lawyer sometimes, but we. 123 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.160 Just happened to have one right here. This is the 124 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:24.920 official attorney of calling all beings, retired Massachusetts attorney Valhalla 125 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:27.480 Law who you can and you can address as val 126 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.120 So she will keep us in line and she will 127 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.439 let us know what's legal, what's not legal? Uh what's 128 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:37.879 what's remedial, what isn't uh? So, But let me ask 129 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:39.439 you another question, because. 130 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.759 Your first question, what am I thinking? What is she? 131 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:44.199 Now? 132 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:44.879 What are you thinking? 133 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:48.560 I'm judge, I'm actually in character right now. One of 134 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.519 my things I might be still character. Okay, I'm a 135 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:55.000 method actor. I'm like, you know, I won't come out 136 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:57.040 of character un till tomorrow morning. Probably. Now all right, 137 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.639 I'm thinking to myself, how drunk do I need to 138 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.519 get to fall asleep tonight? 139 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:12.040 Is that it can I that's really the because I 140 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:14.480 can't get over if anybody. 141 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.279 With the same mind, which you know she does. This 142 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.079 is calculated, it's talked about, it's planned. She's not alone 143 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.120 in planning of this. She's bright, but she's not that bright. 144 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:27.360 Someone else helping her with these decisions. And why she 145 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.759 can't deny these what legal standing she might have to 146 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.519 deny these because she's going to get challenged. I mean 147 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:36.440 to not let the welchin on the FBI expert. I 148 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.960 do understand because he's FBI. When I state police, they 149 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.919 have different ways of protocols. I understand all that, But 150 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:44.480 come on, really. 151 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.759 But all those FBI most of them were police prior 152 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.200 most of them came in. I mean, I had a 153 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:55.639 friend who was Cocoa Beach police and then next thing 154 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:56.639 you know, he's on the FBI. 155 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:00.399 So you get till thirty seven years old to get on. Yeah, 156 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.960 you can be a cop. Yeah, So it's a good 157 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:04.759 way to go if you get a good force and 158 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:07.519 you write the book the right way. I don't know 159 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.679 if you've been paying attention to the audit, but the 160 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.679 complaints that have been coming out of there, the anonymous 161 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.000 complaints about the police officers of indinistering. That's the story 162 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:17.799 for another night. We can spend all night on that 163 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:21.000 if you want to. But anyways, you're the I'm the guests. 164 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.480 Go ahead, Well, I mean those are things you know, 165 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:26.879 we I certainly want to open up the floor that 166 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.600 you both can can touch on that, but I think 167 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.279 they'll We're going to hit the lawyers up pretty hard 168 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:35.639 with that on Sunday because I want to know what 169 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.360 types of scenarios could play out after by the fact 170 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.519 that she's denied. Because I've said all along, I've said 171 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.320 this to you, I've said this to BA. They are 172 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.320 not They're not trying. They're not going for a conviction 173 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.440 on Karen Reid. They know that they're not going to 174 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.480 get that because they know they don't have the evidence. 175 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:55.639 All they have to do is play for the tie. 176 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:57.000 Basically, they. 177 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.279 I believe that Hank Brennan was hired to get another 178 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:04.039 hung jury so they could keep her in legal jeopardy. 179 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:07.320 And they may not even announce their intention after this 180 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:12.399 hung jury in my opinion, so this you know, I don't. 181 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:12.919 I don't. 182 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:17.000 So then that comes to the question of what types 183 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:22.440 of remedies does Karen have. For example, you can't appeal 184 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.399 a hung jury after a hung jury. So the only 185 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.759 way that she could make some sort of an appeal 186 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:32.519 is if they say we're gonna we're gonna go again. 187 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:37.039 We're gonna try her again, right right, So what if 188 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.799 they say, well, you know what, we'll we'll come to it. 189 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.879 Maybe they'll wait ninety days before they announce. 190 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:46.960 That's just I you know, it's an interesting concept. I mean, 191 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:49.759 a third time strike. I mean you've heard the jury 192 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.720 trial for it, like the guy from Boston Jury of 193 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:59.360 four or whatever. I took it edible, my god. Yeah. Anyways, 194 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:01.519 they tried this guy four times and on the fourth 195 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.879 third time, or they convicted him all the fourth time 196 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:05.960 and it got overturned because it just took too many 197 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:07.840 shots at him and it wasn't him. It's it happened 198 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:10.279 in Boston. That fit the actual Netflix documentary, but it 199 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:15.200 was it was great. Yes, yes, but I'm naming the 200 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.360 Netflix movie. I'm just blanking out right now. 201 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:22.360 It's called aft over a big time in Massachusetts. 202 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.679 Oh yeah, well, well there was a Boston cop that 203 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:27.559 was shot in his car. Sean Ellis used to just 204 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:29.960 happen to be getting diapers at the same time, so 205 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.799 the timeline fit, and they didn't built the narrative around that. Basically, 206 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.360 it was really hard to prove it took him three 207 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.519 times to get him. I don't see him going for 208 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.519 a third time. I agree with you, DJ, And then 209 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:43.759 they can just say, well, we tried. We can't get 210 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.000 a partial jury, you know, and partial jury or the jury, 211 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:47.639 we can't get the you know, we can't get that 212 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:50.279 swing to go our way. Uh so we're not gonna 213 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.279 try it again. And we've we've done all our resource, 214 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.320 we've done due diligence. What's gonna move on from here? 215 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.159 And no accountability for anybody but the third party culprit 216 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:03.879 has been introduced with Brian Haigs, Brian Albert and someone else. 217 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:07.919 Right, So I just want to say shout out to 218 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:09.159 Joe Flipperhead, the legend. 219 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:12.799 Oh yeah, bust my balls all day to. 220 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:16.080 Day, Philadelphia, Baby kill him. 221 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:23.000 I'm sorry, Delta ass all day along, Delta Ass, flip up, 222 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:29.799 Jesus and God bid win the Super Bowls walking on water. 223 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:32.120 Yeah, I know. Now then we were still then we're 224 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:37.440 still one of his best defensive players, awesome offensive players 225 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:44.320 and the legend. Yeah, what's up? I wanted to hey, Denny, 226 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:46.720 did you make it to the standout today? If you 227 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.080 get a chance, just answer because I know so we 228 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.159 talked about the standouts just a second ago. And Mackandoza 229 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.240 has filed the federal lawsuit, skipped the whole state statue, 230 00:12:57.320 --> 00:12:59.080 went to the Feds, and he's going to be in 231 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:02.480 front on in front of a judge Friday morning. So 232 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:05.679 it's happened pretty quick. Uh. And they have like seven 233 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:06.919 de seeding jurors now. 234 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.720 I think it's six, right or was it five today 235 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:12.600 to yesterday? 236 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:14.399 I think that's yeah? 237 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:18.240 And that the big word is I just took Let's 238 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:19.240 stop you guys. 239 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:21.320 You know one thing I want to do before it 240 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:24.759 gets too far away. Since Kelly said it, Uh, she said, 241 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.320 Bev is drinking boxed wine? Can we get by our panelists? 242 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.720 And the chat is Bev drinking boxed wine? Is she 243 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:34.200 drinking the type of wine that you just unscrew the 244 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.240 cap or does she actually have a cork? So if 245 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.039 anybody could uh, if BEV is not too lazy to 246 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:43.000 So if anybody would like to weigh in on what 247 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:45.840 type of wine that that BEV drinks, I would really 248 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:50.919 appreciate that. Oh and Brenda's here, all right, Brenda Sweeney, 249 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:51.559 the other legend. 250 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:56.519 All right, seven seven jurors, And the what I've been 251 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:02.159 preaching about this jurors is last year, I think that 252 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:12.519 the jury, the jury was white collar educated lawyers, teachers, thanks, policemen, engineers, 253 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:14.840 whatever you want to do. They pulled them from Dover, 254 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.440 they pulled them from Brookline. I think they might have 255 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:20.480 changed up the zip codes. And there's a little, uh 256 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.399 little color that there's actually a black gentleman. I think 257 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:29.559 that was seeded, which I find very important because everybody 258 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.840 has their own experience with law enforcements. I was brought 259 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.600 up to always trust law enforcement no matter what, right 260 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:40.799 until years ago and years ago. But if you're from 261 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.559 average incomes like a half a million a year, your 262 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.159 house is worth one point five in the neighborhood of that. 263 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.960 All the time, it's you lived a different life. You 264 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.600 work around with people that have a different thought process. 265 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:55.919 So show me your friends, show me a future. You'll 266 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.519 be a like minded person from that town. So I 267 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:02.799 like Randolph, I I like you know, Wadnyamith, I like Rockland. 268 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:06.000 I like those and being will probably agree with me. 269 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.480 We see a lot of those people at our standouts. 270 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.000 We see a lot of witmen. We see you know 271 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:15.559 that the you know, we see a lot of you know, uh, Braintree. 272 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.639 We see a lot of Canton. But you know still 273 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.840 I'm Stowton. We see a lot of that we don't 274 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.639 see last year. I feel like it was like dover brookline, whatever, 275 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.360 go down the line, whatever you want to do. I 276 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:32.799 think that's a big, big, big, big difference. And all 277 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:35.600 we have to we have to do is we just 278 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.000 show reasonable doubt and let people understand what that really is. 279 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:47.639 Like the level for guilty has gotta be so high. 280 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.480 Yeah, I can see bad with some mad dog twenty 281 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:51.440 twenty year boons farm. 282 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:54.480 I'm sorry, go ahead. She wakes up, she just like 283 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:56.480 pulls the heavers off her and a bottle falls off 284 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.440 the bed, and like the dogs laying next Door's like fuck, 285 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:03.840 I can see it happening. 286 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:04.080 Man. 287 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:07.360 I wonder if she I mean, I wonder if she 288 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:10.480 goes downstairs and that just you know, all goodness creation 289 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:11.879 is going to be a long day to day, goes 290 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:19.120 back up with the thermos around look looking at the crash. 291 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.399 Daddy's like, would I like to take you in my chamber? 292 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:21.679 Huh? 293 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:26.159 Just that look was devilish. 294 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:37.960 That she was like, right right, the guys, my. 295 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.840 Husband's on the cape. This could work, This could work. 296 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:46.200 I can So she's human. I just feel I just 297 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:50.080 feel like she knows what the right decision is because 298 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:53.639 she has her peers. They must talk, other judges must 299 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:55.639 sit and have lunch or go out. I don't know. 300 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.919 And it's just like, how can you make how can 301 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.399 you not? How can did you do that? Now? Hank 302 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.839 is a you know, he's a good lawyer. He's smarter 303 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.319 than we think, and he does not like the federal 304 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.359 government because of the cases that he tries. You know Whitey. 305 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.160 He was the defensive council for Whitey the Feds and 306 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:14.680 a lot of stuff on him why he wanted to 307 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.200 take the stand. But I think Hank was told not 308 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.319 to let him go on to the stand because of 309 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:21.799 what he knew and what he might stay on the 310 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:23.519 stand and opened up another can alarms. 311 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.680 Well, well, let's talk about let's talk about two elements 312 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.240 that both that encompass both of these people, both Bev 313 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.079 and Hank. There's one thing that they both like, and 314 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:33.720 that's power. 315 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:34.839 And this is. 316 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.839 Probably one of the most often, probably one of the 317 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:43.359 most overused sort of axioms that they say power corrupts 318 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:49.920 and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely is Bev will think that 319 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:54.839 she has absolute power because she understands what checks and balances, 320 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:57.920 that how few checks and balances there are. 321 00:17:57.960 --> 00:17:59.000 And in Hank's. 322 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:01.880 Case, first of all, we believe that he's going to 323 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:04.519 be paid a lot more than what morrissey because we 324 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:07.240 don't trust anything that he says. You and I talked 325 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.240 about that, both of both of us individually, with with 326 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:16.119 with me and with that if he could become DA 327 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:19.359 and that's power, So that would mean that could potentially 328 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:21.839 mean something to Hank Brennan knowing. 329 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:23.559 That that lard. 330 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:25.839 Ass is going to be out of there soon. But 331 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.119 I want to point out something that Val halle Laws 332 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:30.279 said right here. There was dermane to that. 333 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.119 Val says, if there. 334 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.400 Is another mistrial, there are a few grounds Karen can 335 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:41.759 still appeal on, but the mistrials will probably be repeated 336 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:44.640 until Morris is kicked out of office. 337 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:49.559 So there you go, Ken that land that I was 338 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.759 doing Ken Hathaway in the chat I was doing I was. 339 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:54.160 Doing Ken's Dunna. 340 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:58.880 Certainly his mother can you say character for the rest 341 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:06.880 of the night, know, you know, with an Irish accent 342 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.440 her Boston mic just to make you feel like you're 343 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:10.359 back in the homeland. 344 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.680 Anyway, Dev loves you. 345 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:19.799 She's yeah, so so what she's saying that that's important. 346 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:23.640 There is more importantly all kidding aside that there are 347 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:26.079 a few grounds that Karen could appeal on. 348 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.960 But I agree. I don't believe. 349 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:33.240 That they will dismiss this case if there is a 350 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.519 mistrial and a hung Jerry, because I have that little 351 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:40.519 faith in the Commonwealth. Now is that me rooting against 352 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:44.039 I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe in them, 353 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:46.440 and I think they would say we're going to go 354 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:50.680 again based on the history that you cited and and 355 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:52.599 what she's saying right here, go ahead. 356 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:57.640 I just that's a that's a big if you've got 357 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:01.599 to judge's calling balls and strikes for you. If thank 358 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:04.279 Brenan has I don't think you know, the d has 359 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:06.160 to be voted in at this point. I don't think 360 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:08.319 he's gonna shot to get whether win, lose a draw. 361 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:11.240 I don't think he's gonna shot at winning an election, 362 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:13.799 be honest with you, from what I feel and what 363 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:16.079 I know with people, and you know you want to 364 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.039 get the vote out, We'll get the vote out in 365 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:20.880 Norfolk County for sure. What's scary is that no one 366 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.279 stepped up and said, Hey, I'm gonna run for DA. 367 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.680 We do have one person, and I don't know who 368 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:27.759 it is. That's how once they've been out there. I 369 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.480 think we're down like fifteen or fourteen months before the 370 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.640 election and we just need a lawyer. I've always said Yanetti, 371 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.599 but he's probably doing well in the private sector right now. 372 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:38.319 So I don't know. 373 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.559 But I don't think think is even like he's going 374 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:45.759 into this showing how dirty he is. I can't imagine 375 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:48.240 that that's gonna be that's a good look for him. 376 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:51.440 What he's presenting right now in front. 377 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.039 Of the world is just dirty. 378 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:58.160 He's out there argue emotions that aren't even on paper. He's, 379 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:01.400 you know, trying to let stuff stick to the wall, 380 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:03.039 and she's filling for it. 381 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:05.640 Well, let me, let me let me draw an example. 382 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:09.720 If you have two fighting forces, so let's say you 383 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:12.480 have the United States and then we're on the ground 384 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:16.480 in Afghanistan and you have elements like al Qaeda or 385 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:21.839 the Taliban, Right, so they have to conduct an insurgency 386 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.440 of sorts. If we play fair, Okay, we're gonna come 387 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:28.519 out on the battlefield and we're gonna fight. What's gonna happen. 388 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:32.599 We're not gonna we have take some casualties. 389 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:35.799 No, they're gonna lose. If we come out onto the 390 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:39.200 field of battle, they're gonna lose. So now what do 391 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:39.960 they have to do? 392 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:40.279 Well? 393 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:43.319 I can try I eds, you know, I can. I 394 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.440 know their convoys are gonna use these roads, so I 395 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:49.079 can blow up some of the I can inflict casualties 396 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:52.759 that way. I can use dirty bombs. I can attack 397 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.039 their their less guarded barracks. 398 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:57.079 Especially. There was one barracks they. 399 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.359 Had that was a FOB of forward operating base that 400 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.519 was surrounded by high mountains. I think it was called 401 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.880 FOB something with a K. I can't remember. There was 402 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:09.759 a movie made about it. That's how bad? That so hard? 403 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.519 Yeah, what is it? I saw the movie you talked about. 404 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:14.640 You know what I'm talking about. Okay, there they had 405 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:17.200 the low they had the low ground. They was mouth, yeah, 406 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:17.759 it was horrible. 407 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:20.599 It's like who the hell would put Bob keating? It 408 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:21.759 was called so. 409 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:22.839 Who the hell? 410 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:26.119 So, how the hell do you expect this guy to 411 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.200 go in there with Lally at his side and that 412 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:31.839 other moron liar? And then you know this said, the 413 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:36.440 three seventy four pages of information had nothing exculpatory. 414 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:38.119 How do you expect them to go. 415 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:42.160 In and and want to wage a fair fight when 416 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:46.640 all the organic evidences with Jackson is with Ynetti and 417 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:51.480 Eliza Little and now Victoria Joje and so forth. I 418 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:56.480 was using Sean's accent there, so, so so if you 419 00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:59.720 if you understand that, then you totally understand why he's 420 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.720 doing what he's doing because he wants to win. He's 421 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.799 a competitor. So imagine, you know, Bill Belichick right against 422 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:12.119 Andy from the chiefs, I'm gonna read Andy Reid, thank you. 423 00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:15.960 So you're not gonna want to fight fair, You're gonna 424 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.119 fight dirty because that's all you can do. He's not 425 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:23.920 gonna win a fair fight, is he? And he's not 426 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.559 fighting for the win because he knows he can't win 427 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:28.799 because they don't have the evidence. So all he has 428 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:32.240 to do is dirty up their case, get people, get 429 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:36.640 their witnesses. Not allowed like the FBI agent. He tried, ARCA, 430 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:40.440 tried doctor Russell. You know, he'll try the dog bite expert. 431 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:42.920 You know you can't talk about Colin, No, he can't 432 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:46.359 talk about that there was a federal investigation. So he's 433 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:49.160 gonna use all these tricks because if they just meet 434 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:53.200 like this, well the defense is gonna is gonna win. Yeah, 435 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:56.559 so I understand exactly why he's doing what he's doing 436 00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:58.960 because that's his only play, right. 437 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:03.039 So a great point, great analogy of what's actually happened. 438 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.359 I kind of look back at the minute men when 439 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:07.880 they knew they couldn't beat Britain. Britain just walked at 440 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.119 them straight. But we just fought from the woods and 441 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:12.559 fixed them off, fix them off on a time. But 442 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:16.680 that just took time. And I agree with what with 443 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:19.279 what's going on. But how to win is that when 444 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:23.799 the defense won't won't play dirty, they'll play smarter. They'll 445 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:28.039 you know, So if Wels can't get in the FBI expert, 446 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.759 maybe they look at a state expert. Maybe they look 447 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:33.799 somewhere else, you know, to figure out how crime scene 448 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.039 should have been handled. Because the state police owned that 449 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:38.519 crime scene, not the can't plase have to say seven 450 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.799 o'clock after genre was pronounced dead. So there's a lot 451 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:45.039 of investigating things that should be going on and to 452 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.000 have bev say, even a lamean can understand what a 453 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.039 police prosecutor or police crime scene should be held, like 454 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:54.759 you know what you mean? I mean, are you know 455 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:57.039 not even a cop sitting there can't and cops sitting 456 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:01.640 there for eight nine hours, just ridiculous. Now again, reasonable doubt, 457 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:03.759 that's all you have to prove. We don't have the 458 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:06.119 defenses of the preventing. It's up to the prosecution to 459 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:10.039 say this is what we have. If you do, one 460 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:16.000 person with reasonable doubts. Sorry, hey, yeah, one person with 461 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:20.599 reasonable doubt. Mis trump, I mean, no hung jury. But 462 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:22.119 I don't think it goes that way. I think it's 463 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.720 either one gonna be stuck for guilty. Yeah, do you 464 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:28.720 think it's going to be what I think? She wins it? 465 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:33.279 All right, you do, Yeah, she's quitted. I don't think 466 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:34.559 she spends one night jever. 467 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.519 Oh you know, I don't think she ever. I don't 468 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.039 think I lose. I just don't think I think the 469 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.000 hung jury because I think when you see the morons 470 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.400 that were there last time, how do I know I'm 471 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.440 not gonna get it. I only need they only need 472 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:50.839 one moron, or if they need the Mcalberts to show 473 00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.359 up and stop and shop, lean against their car and 474 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.920 stare at that person as they're walking out with their groceries, 475 00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:57.799 and that's it. 476 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.920 That's all they need. Well, you don't the exposure of 477 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.400 Fanning being around the jury smells bad to begin with? 478 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.079 Ye that has been If. 479 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:08.400 You want to let the dog out, you can let 480 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:09.680 the dog out, and we keep talking. 481 00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:11.039 We're good. 482 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:16.400 Yeah, okay, can I just make a point Fanning today 483 00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:17.920 during the Turk trial. 484 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.000 Funny thing is. 485 00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:24.000 Is that he was testifying about what he does and 486 00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:27.920 he never mentioned being security for the jury. So he 487 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:31.160 talked about doing administrative duties. He talked about he's you know, 488 00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:33.200 he's a he's a sergeant. 489 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:33.440 Now. 490 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.720 He never once talked about, oh, I'm in charge. 491 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.799 Of jury security. So I thought that was interesting. 492 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:43.519 Yeah, I don't know what this means. 493 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:47.240 He ain't gonna have no Boston copp and or ATF agent. 494 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:50.000 Well yeah, there's that. 495 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:52.519 Yeah, there's that too. I mean that's a third party. 496 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.759 That's a third party culprit, even even David Jennetti to 497 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.640 stand up and say those three names in the open court, 498 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.400 to have face and say, hey, this is what we're 499 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:06.480 coming at you with, and we could prove it. We 500 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.599 can prove it. Never heard that before. And Davy Nettie's 501 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:12.519 not the type of guy to throw a hut against 502 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:14.920 the wall see the sticks, because he knows he's getting 503 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.079 bolved in strikes, you know, thrown against him. So he's like, no, 504 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.359 we we actually can prove it. We don't need to 505 00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:24.079 talk about a federal investigation either. So neither one body. 506 00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:28.599 Someone flipped, someone talked someone. I don't know. I don't know, 507 00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:30.559 so I gotta only speculate, you know what I mean. 508 00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:33.440 So I don't know if you ever had a sham Wow, 509 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.400 but I think you should because it's a great, great 510 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.200 clean cleaning product. He uses it all the time. And 511 00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:41.680 by the way, you guys out there, pretty soon you'll 512 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.599 be able to wear order your Boston be A hats 513 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.119 and T shirts. I'm gonna get one myself. You're gonna 514 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:49.640 show it BEA. 515 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:53.000 No, I don't have it yet. She's bringing it back 516 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:56.720 next Well. The photos, Oh, i'd have to send them 517 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:57.200 to you. 518 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:58.000 No, you share it. 519 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.440 You just click present and you could share him from 520 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:06.119 your computer. Oh okay, all right, so let's go so 521 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.799 well and thank you for creating the greatest cleaning products. 522 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.759 I think Hank's best fight is before the trial. Stats 523 00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:17.119 jurors won't like Spanky if he continues like this. What 524 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:18.079 do you guys think about that? 525 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:19.559 It's true? 526 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:22.400 Do you want like? Did you see Alan Jackson when 527 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.200 he laughed with the jurors this morning, thank you you're turning. 528 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.440 He turned around, he said good morning jurors, and no 529 00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.160 one said a word, and he smiled and laughed and 530 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:34.200 said good morning jurors, and they all just started to laugh. 531 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:37.599 And hats and minds when the hearts and minds of 532 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:43.400 battle right, yes, absolutely out of war, hats and minds. 533 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.920 This is a heart and mind campaign. If you like 534 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:49.240 Alan Jackson, if you like David Jannetti, you're halfway home. 535 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.440 You like Liza Little, She's a different type of girl 536 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:55.119 this time around two point zero that she was one 537 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.519 point zero. She doesn't have that little froggy in her 538 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:00.279 throat where she's a little hesitant to speak her mind. 539 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.480 She is standing right up with a straight shoulders back 540 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.039 and had attention and saying, you know, this is what 541 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.279 we present, this is what we're going to present, this 542 00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.279 is the timeline, and we're going to present. And you 543 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.200 can see that Bed is calling on her a little 544 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.839 bit more for the insens almost like it's a test, 545 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.160 almost like you know, I'm not gonna ask you, Eddie 546 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.599 or Jack said, I know they know, but do you know, Eliza? 547 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.200 You know? And then the whole other thing about bringing 548 00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.400 George on who that was a curve ball, that was 549 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:29.799 twelve to six that came in. I backed out of 550 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:32.599 the baddest box. Never saw that thing coming, Never saw 551 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.519 that thing coming. And to be working for David d 552 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.039 Netty first of all, have a job of them. And 553 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:42.319 then this that was a tactical move from day one. 554 00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:44.519 You knew that. You probably when you saw that, you 555 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:46.880 probace that's smart at some of the Bee man that 556 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.799 what a good move. That was what she brings to 557 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.960 the courtroom. What the jurors were probably talking about at 558 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.160 lunch maybe who knows. I don't know what they were 559 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.480 talking about, but I can tell you it's it seems 560 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:00.680 to me that they're going for a different time of jura. 561 00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.319 Now they only had so many strikes, or I think 562 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.799 of how it works. They can excuse me. Jurors one 563 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.720 has twelve the ones how it works. But to get 564 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.960 seven in three days, we could be a trial in 565 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.440 a week and a half, you know the way I 566 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:19.039 had a schedule, And uh, I think that's I don't 567 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:21.359 want to see a feeling. But there's still way that 568 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:24.559 David Yanetti talked about how we can prove a third 569 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:29.039 party culprit. We can prove it. 570 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.359 I want to congratulate Victoria George because I applied to 571 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.519 Yunetti Law firm as well. I I strangely enough, he 572 00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.200 didn't return my phone call, but I said I'd empty 573 00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:42.359 the shredder bags. You know, I could vacuu him. I mean, 574 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:43.920 there's a lot of stuff here. I can do some 575 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.000 filing and stuff if that exists anymore. 576 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.680 He meant. He mentioned, he mentioned now that he has 577 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.119 an office in Debtham when he talks to the jurors. 578 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.240 Now perfect, you know one in Boston and I have 579 00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.799 one here in Debtham. People, so when he's talking, he's 580 00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:58.960 in that he's in that Norfolk County. You know, he 581 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.680 lives in the North Shore, has an office in being Down. 582 00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.440 But now he has an office in den him. You know, 583 00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:09.079 he's he's here, man. He doesn't like to lose. I 584 00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.640 mean he's He's prosecuted one of the most horrific cases, 585 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:14.400 the Curly case where the kids threw them over the 586 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:16.960 yeah you know what I'm talking about, the young kid 587 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.000 that they put him. Yeah, they put him in a 588 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.319 He prosecuted that one to the end of the earth. 589 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.480 And he he promised the parents that he would he 590 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.799 would win this without a doubt. And that's the kind 591 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.079 of guy win the hearts and minds of people. And 592 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.079 you can look at David, Yey guys and Jackson, little 593 00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:39.200 Karen and George and know what you're getting. Hank to 594 00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.960 me right now doesn't have that look. He's got a 595 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.440 look of desperation a little bit. I need to get 596 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.200 this done. This needs to happen this way, this rule 597 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.599 needs to go this way. I have to deny this motion. 598 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.480 I have to spile this report tonight. Lovely's sitting there 599 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.759 like a bump of the lug. He's there. He's a prisoner. 600 00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.480 He's not really wanting to be there, He's forced to 601 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.720 be there. Kind of support. Uh, Laura, but Laughlin, you 602 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.640 know she's the silent killer. I don't know what she does, 603 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.079 but when she doesn't watch out, she's preparing for it, right, 604 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.079 She's like you know, and sneaking around with the videos. 605 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.759 You know, we're finding out more stuff through the Can't 606 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.000 Police audit that they actually can store videos up to 607 00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:28.559 eight hundred days. That came out, so, oh, hometo my hometalent? 608 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:32.720 Good then, I know. Really, but that audit, even though 609 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.440 they turn to spend it as a favorable outcome to 610 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.480 the Can't Police, and when you read it, you're like, well, 611 00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:41.519 if you guys think that's Sava rble, you guys should 612 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.000 probably read another one from another police department that probably 613 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:48.000 smoked you guys. And these police officers are playing the 614 00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.799 victim because they're getting harassed by social media. 615 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:56.759 There's magic the leaf blow or innovative and they make 616 00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.240 all the all the redtail light like what where the 617 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:01.000 world is that? 618 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.119 Yeah? The shoe, the shoe, how do you miss? You 619 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.839 walked over that shoe three or four five times? Why'd 620 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.160 you miss a black shoe and white snow? Stop? Stop? 621 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:13.279 I'll tell you what. 622 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:17.960 These incredibly innovative investigative techniques are being studied the world 623 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.680 over in Finland right now, they're watching videos going man, 624 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:26.799 can can we possibly replicate these incredible geniuses from the 625 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:32.200 Norfolk DA's MSP contingent and Canton PD, because boy, we 626 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.200 could solve so many crimes. Here's a question for you 627 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.200 from calling Bennie, I'm sorry. 628 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:39.119 Question for Mike. 629 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:40.880 I'm not gonna be able to make you laugh like 630 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:42.759 John Como, but I'll do my best. 631 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:43.400 Question. 632 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.240 I've been trying to find a video that I saw 633 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.960 a long time ago. Where was Karen's vehicle when Jan 634 00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.000 and Carrier drove Karen to Fairview. 635 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.400 Road, left and Won Meadows? Where was it? Where was 636 00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:58.960 that car? 637 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:00.960 Yes? 638 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:04.440 It was at one okay, because they had all gone 639 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:10.760 back to John's house because on Jen McCabe's idea, they better. 640 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.039 That's when she walked through the house with shoes. Where 641 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.079 they try to say that that showed her consciousness of 642 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.000 guilt because he didn't. 643 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:17.880 Allow shoes in the house. 644 00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.800 They left the card she left her vehicle there while 645 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.679 they drove over to to look for John. 646 00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:27.519 I mean, that's like that. 647 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.440 If if there's nothing else that proves Karen guilty, it's 648 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.000 that right there. She didn't take her shoes off. I 649 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.599 think I'm switching sides now with the with the weight 650 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.760 of that evidence. Jenna, you are such a fucking genius. 651 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.360 I'm I'm switching sides. 652 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.840 Well, she made she makes the phone. She makes the 653 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.039 phone call to Jen mcabs. She gets the phone number 654 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.360 from her from John's niece, because she didn't have Jim 655 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.480 mccame's phone number. She doesn't drives over that when you 656 00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.400 see her leading with the tail ice intact. She drives 657 00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.840 over to Jen McCabe's house. They can play about her 658 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.000 being loud and to calm down. Jen then gets to 659 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:09.039 the car, drives Karen's car to One Meadows, carry meets 660 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.840 him there. Yeah, right, my right. And then they surprised 661 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:19.199 John cam up there, you know he's out somewhere. They 662 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.280 get all three of them get into the car again. 663 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:26.239 Karen is driving, Kerry is driving her car with Karen 664 00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:29.400 in the front. She's in the back seat, Yeah, backseat. 665 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.360 So and then the other thing was the consciousness of 666 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:34.000 Guild is that she was the first one to see him. 667 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.119 She knew exactly where to look. That was the other 668 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.920 one that I got to laughing at, like, no, it's 669 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:40.880 pretty obvious that she was right. It was right there. 670 00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.639 It could miss it. Really, I mean, to have all 671 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.480 those people leave and have that body allegedly being there 672 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:49.840 from twelve thirty on makes no sense. 673 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.119 And then he said they said that in the motions 674 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:53.679 that he was off the road. 675 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.039 That's very close to the road. 676 00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.480 And you know how small that yard is and where 677 00:35:58.480 --> 00:35:59.480 the flagpole is. 678 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.960 Ye, like it's it's as you would say. I saw it. 679 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:05.000 I saw it. 680 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:07.599 I saw it with my own eyes. I saw my 681 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:08.719 own eyes. There's an r. 682 00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:10.199 That's what we're having fun with. 683 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:15.599 Sorry, well, sorry, I'm sorry. It's all right man. You 684 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.639 went to school here. Well, let's slide. Let's slide. All right. 685 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.239 This is what I do. Man, We do this all 686 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:23.519 the time. Man, this is what we do. 687 00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:25.960 Go ahead. So so when they so when she jumps 688 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:28.679 out of the car, oh, that's consciousness of guilt because 689 00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.920 she saw how did she see them? I'm like Jesus H. 690 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:34.760 Christ on a freaking popsicle stick. Stop it. Let's just 691 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:35.719 make she was looking. 692 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.400 They were looking for that for him. 693 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.679 She was right, that's which the last place I remember 694 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.599 was dropping them off. You know, she's lying. Gen was lying, Like, no, Karen, 695 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.400 you didn't say that. You said you left the waterfall. 696 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.159 You don't remember thinking that's bullshit. She never said those words. 697 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.400 That's just Karen just trying to make it sound really 698 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:55.880 fucked up. Excuse me, you swear? Okay, all right, I'll 699 00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:56.119 try to. 700 00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:59.480 Let's not make it, you know, but but yeah, this 701 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.360 these people pissed me off so bad that sometimes I 702 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.719 just can't help it. But we try not to make 703 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:08.679 it a f bomb. No, I don't one, you know, 704 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.840 once out, that's all good, brother. So do you want 705 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.679 to do a little bit of Mike Boston mic ism 706 00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:21.280 and sort of, you know, tie some things together that 707 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.639 people may not be aware of, because you've got some 708 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.519 really amazing thoughts on this case, Mike, and I think 709 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:32.039 the audience would like to hear them. 710 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.760 Well, the one thing that's really been wathering, man, is 711 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.599 that the garage door at One Meadows was left open 712 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.880 and they couldn't get a hut. Remember Mike Colorado was 713 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.000 snowblowing the driveway or he went over there to pick 714 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:50.519 up the or drop off the sun the nephew, and 715 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.880 he couldn't get the garage door to come down, nor 716 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:56.039 did the code work. He knew the code to put 717 00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:58.239 the garage door down, he could not get to come down. 718 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.639 Why was it open? Why was it left to him 719 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.760 when Karen Jen and carry all left they closed it? 720 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.440 Interesting the other Yeah, and now when he Mike shows 721 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.760 up at like eight thirty nine o'clock because his wife's 722 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.559 a nurse. His wife was calling him to wake him 723 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.199 up to tell what was going on. She's a nurse 724 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.239 down at Brockton Works the weekends. Only she knew woke 725 00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.760 Mike up. Mike freaks out because he was having abuse 726 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.519 of them the night before. He's got to go over 727 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.480 there check on the niece. Pulls up the garage doors open, 728 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:33.559 wide open, and the codes were not working, and he 729 00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.920 cannot pull it down. He can't pull it down with 730 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.480 the orange thing. So something that bothers me has bothered 731 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:41.920 me there. That bothers me quite a bit. Obviously, the 732 00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:46.000 timeline is all screwed up. Judrius uh not knowing that 733 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:48.440 where the two minutes were. He was probably one of 734 00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:53.239 the honest people on the stand, was not Jutirous, the 735 00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.400 technician guy by the technical video guy. I don't believe 736 00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:58.400 you want to lie. He wasn't gonna lie for anybody. 737 00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.400 He was up there. Ask me the quest you want 738 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:01.840 to ask me? I'm gonna answer room. And you saw 739 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.719 Lally get caught in that when need to beat that. 740 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.400 So that just that blew one up for me. And 741 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:11.920 then uh, Alley's uh finding the dog. She went to 742 00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.599 the police station with the rock. No one's really put 743 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:18.280 that together yet. Say that again, Okay, So Ally's Alley's 744 00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:23.280 out driving around. She finds a lost dog in the 745 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.639 middle of a snow storm, like at one o'clock in 746 00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:29.079 the morning. The morning goes to Canton p d. H 747 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:33.000 drops the dog off and just as I just found 748 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:35.039 this dog in the snow, I just want you guys 749 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:42.039 to have it what and left? So puts her a 750 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:47.800 kit and PTE at the same time as Higgins Higgins Higgins. Yeah, 751 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.920 how Higgins get from Fairview to Can't and beat to 752 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.760 get his car? Or did he have his car? Did 753 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.079 he not? There was no jeep there. We know that 754 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:04.239 because the you know Max what's her name, Heather mac Nagel, Yeah, 755 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.519 and the nudo never saw her jeep. They pulled up 756 00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.320 right behind Karen. They saw John walk in the walk 757 00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.039 in that house. There's no question about it. Julie Nagel 758 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.039 walked right past John and John was walking into that 759 00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:22.039 house had to have that timeline to work a little 760 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:26.079 things like that. She's comfortable lying about it. I think 761 00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.480 she was told to she was an interviewed for eighteen 762 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.000 months after the fact because her name was hidden. 763 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.960 Eighteen months, yes, sir, Oh my god. 764 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.079 Wow. And then the other one that bothers me a 765 00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:41.280 little bit is that they were able to get rid 766 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:45.599 of Lucky's testimony and just say that he's unreliable. I 767 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.119 think that. I think that these guys. Yeah, the report 768 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.639 of the dogs, people don't know about that. I actually 769 00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.519 have a picture of I actually have a picture of 770 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:53.960 the dog. 771 00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:00.440 It looks like Dogman wants to. 772 00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.360 Call from big Foot from the Bronks. 773 00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:11.280 Take that press one, pressed two. Okay, you're on the 774 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.320 air with Boston Mike, who is speaking with. 775 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:16.880 A Bigfoot from the Bronx. 776 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:18.480 Okay, I. 777 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.320 Know what happened to Karen. I know what happened to 778 00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:30.199 John o'keith. Nobody's lying in this case. Okay, Karen didn't 779 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.199 hit him with the car, and he never went in 780 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:38.239 the house. Okay, he went behind the house and my 781 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:47.719 cousin Sasquatch attacked him, Okay, and he didn't mean to 782 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.639 hurt him, but he scratched his arm and he hit 783 00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:54.679 his head and he fell bit sasquatch. So he carried 784 00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.440 him to the front of the house and he laid 785 00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:58.960 him down nice and gentle. 786 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:00.480 I love it. 787 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:07.960 Now in nineteen forty seven, Sasquash in Uh, South America 788 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.639 attack somebody the exact same scratch I have time. No 789 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:13.400 one looks in. 790 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.760 Well, first of all, I want to thank you for 791 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.480 solving this because it's you know, we really have been 792 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:23.599 trying to figure out what happened. And and thank you 793 00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:24.320 for solving it. 794 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:28.880 Thank you for calling in now will that was good. 795 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.639 So this good job, my man from White Plains, White Places, 796 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:35.039 New York. 797 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.719 This near where I grew up. Go ahead, Ali Raley 798 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.880 really gets into the detail about the timeline and why 799 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.480 she has to dog and why she's a compeded to 800 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.400 drop her off. No one's talking about it. The prosecution 801 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.280 is not bringing her up on understand for a reason. 802 00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.800 That's a good one. We have not we have not 803 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.559 heard that one. So that was an alibi. To just 804 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:04.559 make sure that everybody when you stitch it together, So 805 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.320 you're saying that they were using that as a Higgins 806 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.320 is that was that an alibi or what? 807 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:10.440 What? 808 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.679 Do you surmise was I think, yeah, I think that 809 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.119 there was two people in the car with her. That's 810 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.280 the reason why Higgins got dropped off there. He never 811 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.920 took his jeep. He he dropped his cars off, jumped 812 00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.320 in the truck with you. The Brian Brian Alboert went 813 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:29.159 back to herself with Brian ship on one sideways, got 814 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.800 to get out of there. Boom. She's in the car 815 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:38.880 with Colin and Higgins. Now the high school is right there. 816 00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:41.159 You can actually walk to the high school from that house. 817 00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:44.079 So her phone is putting her at the high school 818 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.480 as well, and then putting it at the Canton Pete. 819 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.559 Beatrice knows this. She's you're on top of this case. 820 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:53.400 You go, good girl, right but just awesome. 821 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.360 She's like yes because she's Cuban Americans. So I'm sorry, 822 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.079 ahead going. 823 00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.559 And uh so people of getting about these little nuances 824 00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.159 like that, doesn't it make sense? How hot like people like, oh, 825 00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.519 Higgins bust the drovers jeep to the can pet because 826 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:08.920 how is he gonna get there? And I'm like, uh 827 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:10.360 do I have to go into this? I don't want 828 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.000 to go into this. And I've actually I've worked with 829 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.719 Flip Ahead on this and uh, I have a picture 830 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:16.639 of the lost dog sign. I know what type of 831 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:19.360 dial was. It wasn't the first time the dog world away. 832 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.880 It was a little chihuahua. What's the chiuala doing out 833 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.679 at one thirty in the morning? Is beyond being a snowstorm? 834 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:29.599 Right or legs? He's getting some snow? Uh oh yeah, 835 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.679 thank you. It doesn't make more sense. Uh yeah. The 836 00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.639 other the other thing, if John was out there at 837 00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.440 twelve thirty, where's the blood? 838 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:42.239 Where's I mean, surely you know it. 839 00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.280 Would be saturated in that ground, So there's there's that. 840 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.079 The floor being replaced, Uh is another big red flag 841 00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.400 for me selling the house. I mean, that's you're talk 842 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.639 about consciousness of guilt. Were talking about not taking your 843 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.000 shoes off, but you want to talking about selling your house, 844 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:01.920 places your floor, throwing your phones, everybody getting a new phone. 845 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.199 I was told that everybody there that wasn't an albut 846 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.000 that would guests would put into a bathroom and their 847 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.119 phones would taken from them and they got new phones 848 00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.639 in the next two days, all new phone numbers, all 849 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.199 new sump cards. Everything. Yeah. 850 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.000 Oh that's not I mean, that's not That doesn't make 851 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.840 me suspicious, Mike, I think you're super skeptical. It's perfectly 852 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.639 normal for two guys to all of a sudden get 853 00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:26.559 rid of their phones on the same day and completely 854 00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:29.599 destroy them and get new numbers. I mean that, to 855 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:36.400 me is consistent with honest people. I'm trying to be funny, guys. 856 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.480 I'm trying to I asked, asked Karen, and she told 857 00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.880 me she drove it against the Canton PD. So maybe 858 00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:45.679 he drove his jeep from the waterfall to the p 859 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.039 I don't know, but his jeep was never at thirty 860 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.639 four because no one ever saw it. I mean you 861 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:55.440 talk about how Alan Jackson nailed them down to the 862 00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.199 height of the plow, how the plow is angled off 863 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.280 to the right when you turn your car around, Well 864 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.360 the lights turned on a certain way, Well if they 865 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.360 will forward like that into the small luod, that means 866 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.199 you couldn't have seen a six fifteen pound body land 867 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:09.599 right there. You would have. 868 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:11.960 And that whole story that he did a sweep when 869 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.840 there was no snow on the ground, You don't do that. 870 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:18.639 Say a back drafted, he said, I was back. He 871 00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:23.079 got into details of how he actually plowed, Like, let's 872 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.199 overkill right, No one says, I got if you were there? Yeah, 873 00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:27.880 I just pulled up with my jeep. I did a 874 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.559 couple of the drive by pocket right by the mailbox 875 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:33.639 on Jordan's side. I left because they didn't have any jameson. 876 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:36.440 But well, do we know he's seen at the waterfall 877 00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:37.079 drinking a beer? 878 00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:42.159 Okay, we've got We've got a question from Mike, and 879 00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.159 Val also has a question. So Val, if you would 880 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:48.559 state the entire nature of your question so we could 881 00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.639 because you said something that people are wanting you to 882 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.800 say again and I don't know what it was. So 883 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.039 somebody in the chat, if you would please let Mike 884 00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.440 know what you want to hear. And in the meantime, 885 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.639 if if uh Mike and Boston Mike and Boston bea 886 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:08.159 could answer, who do you think moved John's phone? At 887 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.920 twelve thirty two? The eighty two steps then turned the 888 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:11.400 phone off. 889 00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:21.679 Brian albert Ooh, bald headed Brian Albert I see Scott 890 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.880 and get us In the chat, Higgins was guy with 891 00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:29.679 the rumbling cloaking device. Facts. Yes, everyone everybody's got their 892 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.920 way about it. Uh yeah, his phone, you know, if 893 00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:35.639 it's out in the cold that long he's probably gonna 894 00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:38.599 lose this battery power. We all know that. Uh, someone 895 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.280 else had that phone. Someone else put it out there 896 00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:43.960 in the morning, went had it with them that morning, 897 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:48.880 and it went, yeah, went under the body. Like physics 898 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:51.960 doesn't line up with the way he was allegedly hit. 899 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.480 His phone would have ever stayed in his hand or 900 00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.159 in his back pocket and then directly underneath him just 901 00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.239 doesn't make make it make sense kind of thing to me. Uh, 902 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.480 the thing about the phones in the bathroom. All you 903 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:03.280 want to know about that. 904 00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:04.639 Right, Yeah, I want you to. 905 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.039 So these bunds of these cops and the ATF agent, 906 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:12.599 if you haven't seen anything, you can't say anything. Right, So, 907 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.920 no one's going downstairs and no one's leaving until we 908 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:18.360 figure out what we're doing, which was one thirty quarter 909 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.639 or two. You know what we're gonna do. John was 910 00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.239 put into another room downstairs, upright sitting against the wall. 911 00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:27.880 It's you know, he's vomiting on That's how the blood 912 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.960 gets all down there. Uh. And then they make sure 913 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.360 that everybody can't say that they were. They can't. They're 914 00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.920 not gonna lie, well we weren't. We're not gonna tell 915 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:37.559 them what we were walking into a bathroom or you know, 916 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:42.119 and we couldn't get out. That's what happened to Levinson. 917 00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.719 That's that's what happened to some other people. They get 918 00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:50.840 the phones taken away from them. Uh, that's why Levinson's 919 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.639 having a hard time with this whole thing. 920 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:53.360 Uh. 921 00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:54.760 They would give them the phones to make sure that 922 00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:59.559 there's no other text messages involved sending out between that time. Again, 923 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.920 I would never think of anything like that, Like, let's 924 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.039 get all these people together permitter roles, so they can't 925 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.000 say they even saw or anything or heard anything. And 926 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.519 you guys, right, you're not lying. You didn't say you 927 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:14.239 never saw her do that thing, right right, you know. Yeah, 928 00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:15.920 that's why they took the phones. Stay in the bathroom 929 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:18.760 and look from the bathroom. Oh thank you. 930 00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.280 And we also have another five dollars from sham Wau, 931 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:27.039 which is I think, oh, maybe this is the one 932 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.280 I saw earlier. Forgive me, here's this one, okay. Uh, 933 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.760 Higgins's long winded answers about cheap and moving cars is very. 934 00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:38.239 Suspicious administrative business at one three in the morning after 935 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:41.960 a day long drinking. Yeah, it just doesn't make sense, right, 936 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.519 So the jeep's not even at thirty four, I of you. 937 00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:51.679 It's not there. People, wasn't there, It was never there anything. 938 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:56.000 Yes, yes, sorry, because it's been bugging me. Okay, so 939 00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.800 you two married men right here on the panel with me, 940 00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.239 do you do you ever think it's sus the fact 941 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.719 that all these women are out in the middle of 942 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.559 a blizzard driving their trucks all over town and their 943 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.000 husbands are just sitting pretty at home when this was 944 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.159 supposed to be John's friend. 945 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:12.719 I mean, not so much. 946 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:13.800 I mean Carrie was. 947 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:15.800 Carrie's husband was friends with John. 948 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.599 All these men are just at home with their feet 949 00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:21.400 up while their wives are all over town looking for John. 950 00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:23.039 Don't you think that's a little odd? 951 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:27.119 You're about Matt, Matt McCabe. 952 00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:28.800 Matt McCabe and Carrie. 953 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:29.760 Robert's husband. 954 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.000 Yeah, just laid in bed. Yeah, he just laid in bed. 955 00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:36.159 He just kind of banged up, like you know, they 956 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.719 can't find John and you'll help, and he's like, yeah, okay, 957 00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:40.960 and I think she was pissed and you can shovel 958 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:43.880 the driveway find yeah. 959 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:49.079 Right, But you want another one, another one, You want 960 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:53.880 another one about Karen calling Higgins after the next morning, 961 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:54.559 So why don't you. 962 00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.000 Yeah, So my point. My point is is that I 963 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:03.159 think it was around just before, around noontime, Karen sent 964 00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:07.199 a text to John I mean, I'm sorry, to Higgins 965 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:12.039 saying John died, and then from there on Higgins did 966 00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:15.079 not reply. He had his opportunity to now come to 967 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.920 her rescue, to ask why to be her knight in 968 00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:21.519 Shining Armor, and he just ghosted her. So now the 969 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:27.000 competition's gone and this woman needs some consoling and Nope, 970 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.840 that's when that's when Higgey decides, Oh she's no longer, 971 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:31.840 I'm not interested. 972 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:33.039 Her partner's gone. 973 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:37.960 Like, yes, the week before he was trying to hit 974 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.400 it exactly right, exactly right. So that's huge consciousness of guilt. 975 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:46.880 He totally ghosted her after that, you know, not even 976 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:48.039 like how he died. 977 00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.760 Right, the curiosity like what happened? 978 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:52.159 How is he dead? 979 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.920 Like how did he die? Not even in an inquiry. 980 00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:59.199 Yeah, because he because he knew he was there. 981 00:51:59.119 --> 00:51:59.880 He was part of it. 982 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:01.199 Here's the other one. 983 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:03.920 Good if you could read this one. 984 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:07.039 Mike Pigs first first said he was going to do 985 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:08.800 an administry of duties. Then he said he was going to 986 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.119 move the cars, but he said he was going home 987 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:14.079 said he wasn't on the phone. But now we've video 988 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.920 show him on the phones. Yeah, everything you're saying is right, 989 00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:21.679 Jay Uh he changed the story. You know, the word 990 00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.400 the scene could be the kid in police about it. 991 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:27.119 It could be thirty four five of you. It could 992 00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:29.559 be Karen's house. It could be one mettal when they 993 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.360 say we arrived at the scene to do duties. You know, 994 00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:36.239 administrative could mean moving cars, it could mean doing paperwork. 995 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:38.880 But one thirty in the morning, bro, And now they 996 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:40.360 got you on film on a phone call. What you 997 00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.440 said you denied, you never did, and then you admit 998 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:48.920 to having a conversation with h ATF agent Matthew Welch. 999 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.599 You went to the kiosks. He shows you how to 1000 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:56.239 take out certain tests, lead certain tests, then you submit evidence. 1001 00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:01.079 Come on, bro, come on, I mean, what what what's 1002 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:05.159 going on here? Reasonable doubt? Hammer it, hammer it all. 1003 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.960 You had these six witnesses last time, right, hopefully they 1004 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:12.159 get sixteen up there. Sixteen really good with a tow 1005 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.320 truck driver right coming up on board. They got him 1006 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:19.199 on the witness list. I mean, there's a bunch of 1007 00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.480 people coming up on board that they should like spend 1008 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:26.000 more time with Kerry Roberts. Didn't even cross examiner last time. 1009 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:30.880 They didn't even cross examiner what she was at the 1010 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.480 cost she was at the scene. You know, I would 1011 00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:36.280 also look for a nurse that actually check checked John in. 1012 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.840 What are the abulance drivers say to the nurses at 1013 00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:42.880 Good Samaritan at the time of arrival? Was it a 1014 00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:47.239 was it a domestic violence? Which was reported at first 1015 00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:49.760 till ten o'clock in the morning they changed it right? 1016 00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.719 And then, so is that what they told you when 1017 00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.719 you dropped them off to this course, because that means 1018 00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:56.920 that I hit him. I hit him, I hit him 1019 00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:59.199 and never gave him to play, because that's what was 1020 00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.960 said at the crench in the morning to those firefighters. Now, 1021 00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:05.079 if I was a firefighter and I'm dropping that person 1022 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.400 off and I'm talking to a nurse, I'm gonna say 1023 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:10.320 he was hit by a car, the suspect, and you 1024 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.119 know we got on. They told three of us, but no, 1025 00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:18.119 they let her, They let her leave, They let drive away, 1026 00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:19.760 of course, right like. 1027 00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:21.559 They would go up to the police and go, wait, 1028 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:23.719 she just said she did it right. 1029 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:25.800 On any report? 1030 00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:30.760 Nothing nothing, nothing. So I want to talk to you. 1031 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.159 The iron that was in shots that morning, who took 1032 00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:35.800 who actually put the bracelet? John, who talked to the 1033 00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.679 not all, who talked to Katie McLoughlin. What was the 1034 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.119 actual words? We could see them fill them. Who came 1035 00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.360 in with him? I want to know what was said. 1036 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.119 Did he say it was a DV? Unknown? Because if 1037 00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:49.599 they say that at that point, it's friction in their minds. 1038 00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:51.719 A half an hour ago that someone just said that 1039 00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:53.400 I hit him, my head him, I hit him, And 1040 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.159 they're pretty confident about that they set out if they 1041 00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:59.400 said it now. But you know, show me that the 1042 00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:03.280 actual word chine of custody. Right, we'll talk about word like, 1043 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:05.719 did he say that when you get dropped off at 1044 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:07.760 the hospital. Okay, you're saying that it happened at the 1045 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:11.280 thirty fourth FAU, but she's she's saying that it was 1046 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.119 a DV when you guys dropped out, there was nothing 1047 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.159 about a car back again to him. Okay, if Sarah 1048 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.280 had heard those words, I would think the cuffs would 1049 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.639 have been coming out. She would have been in a 1050 00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:25.400 car one hundred percent. Right, there's nobody. 1051 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.159 Yeah, they would have gone up to the police and 1052 00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:31.039 said this lady, the girlfriend just said that she hit him. 1053 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:32.000 And don't forget. 1054 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:34.559 Somebody also said he looks like he went five rounds 1055 00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:38.320 with Tyson, so they thought initially this was a domestic. 1056 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:42.199 Yeah, Paul brother Paul said that his brother Paul said 1057 00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.559 that at the hospital, not knowing what they do at 1058 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.480 the time. They all leave the hospital. Karen's in the 1059 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.199 psych word for a little while. Guess who calls Won 1060 00:55:53.239 --> 00:56:01.360 Meadows who? Jen mckaid she started manipulating from that point on, 1061 00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:06.360 was it in touch? It was in touch? Was in 1062 00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.760 touch with Kery Robinson for the rest of the day. 1063 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:10.840 You could see the times, I think it was four 1064 00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:14.039 or five times, twenty minutes, twenty five minutes, whatever it was, 1065 00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:18.239 getting it straight. But she planted the seed of what 1066 00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:21.480 happened inside of Missus o'keef and then Paul o'keef as well. 1067 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:25.000 Paul O'Keefe's first initial reaction was he went five rounds 1068 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.000 of Tyson, which you would look like that, if you 1069 00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.599 even got up off the floor, you would get smashed 1070 00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.119 like that. And he did go a couple of minutes 1071 00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.440 with some people, you know, not a person but people, 1072 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:38.719 and fell backwards, unfortunately, and he's no longer with us, 1073 00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:43.719 but I believe it comes down to the kids, the 1074 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.519 niece and nephew. John had him. He took them from 1075 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.280 the grand out took them from the grandparents, but he 1076 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.599 had custody of them. Paul didn't want them. John had 1077 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.440 the house, sold it to one meadows, went off the streets, 1078 00:56:57.440 --> 00:56:59.920 went to a nine to five, putting bracelets on sex offenders. 1079 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:03.519 He was doing all the right things. I think the 1080 00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.159 image Missus O'Keefe's head of Karen actually maybe being a 1081 00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:10.840 stepmom and the kids talking about Karen to the grandmother 1082 00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:13.119 all the time, Oh, we just got haircuts and we 1083 00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.760 got these new oug boots, or Karen brought us. This 1084 00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:18.880 didn't sit well with her. You know, she's not she's 1085 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:20.800 not blood, she's not married, you know what I mean. 1086 00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:22.960 She's just John's girlfriend. But for two years she was 1087 00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:26.159 a girl there and she was what people would say, 1088 00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:28.920 a babysit with a babysitter with benefits. But that's how 1089 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.519 John just rolled with his whole fit all his girlfriends. 1090 00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:33.880 I introduced him to one of his girlfriends. That's how 1091 00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.280 he rolls, just the way he is. He's an Irish 1092 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:39.719 blow steam off. Karen says, he just likes to blow 1093 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.559 steam off because he's you know, if he's on the force. 1094 00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.840 But uh to Karen then to show up and I 1095 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:48.199 had missus o'keef say, it looks like he was hit 1096 00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:51.039 by a karl. Why'd you leave him there? That caught 1097 00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.480 Karen off. God right there. She goes up, gets her 1098 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.199 things and leaves with her father. That's why she felt uncomfortable. 1099 00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:00.559 She's stilling the room out like this is what's going on? 1100 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:03.239 She didn't know the jendy called right. So then she 1101 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:04.920 gets to the car with her dad, and dad's driving 1102 00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:07.000 a car. No one's seen a broken tail life by 1103 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:08.840 the way, yet they've all walked by it a bunch 1104 00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:11.960 of times. You know, someone's you know out there that 1105 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.639 bringing videos gone though we don't know where that went allegedly, 1106 00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:22.679 uh Texas Higgins, John Dike ghost. That's a tell. That's 1107 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:26.719 a huge tell right there, because inquiry, especially an ETF 1108 00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:30.119 agent that was just with them six hours ago. Your 1109 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:33.119 police mind should have kicked in. Your natural spidy sensor 1110 00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.440 shouldn't be going, what do you need? What happened? I 1111 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:39.199 was just with him? Are you okay? So I can 1112 00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:40.719 I come over and rub your shoulders tonight? What do 1113 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:42.280 you what you know? What do you need? You know, 1114 00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:47.360 I'm here for you. Nothing, not a not a peep. Nothing. 1115 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:51.360 Everything they did leads to what you would expect a 1116 00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:56.119 guilty behaviors of a guilty person, every single one of them. 1117 00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:59.039 And then the prosecution is just like what what I mean? 1118 00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:02.119 I mean, ladies and gentlemen, the dr how could this 1119 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:08.920 possibly be guilty? Every single thing are prosecutor's dreams. Let 1120 00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:11.880 me have you answered this one from Stacey Q? Then 1121 00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:13.440 I have something I want to say, and then I 1122 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:14.199 have a question for you. 1123 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.719 To Colin, walk and run to the high school, be picked, 1124 00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:21.159 play alley, yes, be a yes, I think so. 1125 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:22.239 I think so too. 1126 00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:24.480 Isn't there a path behind the house too? 1127 00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:24.920 Yes? 1128 00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:28.800 Someone put that on on here esday. I also want 1129 00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.280 to welcome jay Z to the show. I want to 1130 00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.599 say I really like your music. 1131 00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:35.760 I like your wife's music. 1132 00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:39.400 And for me personally, I have ninety nine problems. 1133 00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:42.679 But bea A and one. So that's that was horrible. 1134 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:44.079 That was bad? 1135 00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:48.679 Okay, all right, thank you for giving us that boom Mike. 1136 00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.119 That's your thing, and I love when you go when 1137 00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:51.920 you say that. 1138 00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:55.599 The boom baby. Yeah, when people are right. I used 1139 00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:58.239 to like leave like because I like to leave trails 1140 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:00.639 like you're on the right path. But I want you 1141 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:02.519 to think for yourself how this happened. Like I would 1142 01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:04.800 leave an apple like, oh, good job, Like you picked 1143 01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:06.320 that one up. You're smart, you know what I mean? 1144 01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.400 And things that like I I picked up. I have 1145 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:10.679 people that I follow are very smart. You know that. 1146 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:14.239 Think this threw through and as you get into the. 1147 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:18.239 Sugar, I'm just kidding, please continue. 1148 01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:20.360 Are you are you still in character? I don't know 1149 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:20.840 what's going. 1150 01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:25.639 He only boomed me. Okay, only one. 1151 01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.840 Bubble for the both things, all right? But uh, I 1152 01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:34.559 just how the stories are locked in for this trial too, 1153 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.719 from the previous testimonies from the grand jury. So how 1154 01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:41.880 many times did they testify? They testified with the police reports, 1155 01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:45.519 that testified with the state police, the state gran injury, 1156 01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:50.639 then the federal granjury, and then in court five different 1157 01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:53.960 times they had to stay the story. Now you have 1158 01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.239 Bob Alici up there, who is a sniper. He's the 1159 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.679 guy two hard feet three feet away behind the bush, 1160 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:03.039 wait for you to see the wrong word, and when 1161 01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:06.880 you do, he knows it's coming. They're gonna try to 1162 01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.119 walk you into that trap and they're gonna shut the 1163 01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:11.840 door on you, you know, and Ali won't be able 1164 01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:16.960 to handle it. No way, no way, She'll break And 1165 01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:20.000 to have the kids go back on the stand again 1166 01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:25.000 is something I completely disagree with. Another tell to me 1167 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.480 was when Higgins mentioned that he broke the controller for 1168 01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:32.159 the nephew playing polaystation. He almost went to tears. And 1169 01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:35.000 I can tell you why. He has a niece and 1170 01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:39.440 nephew where his sister passed away that he possibly could 1171 01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:41.840 have taken but decided not to, and they went to 1172 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.880 his mother, and he reret's not doing that as a 1173 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.800 big uncle because he had a good relationship whose sister 1174 01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:51.079 lived in Canton by the way and passed away. He 1175 01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:53.079 had a chance to take these kids in for adoption 1176 01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:57.280 as an uncle, but kicked the can to his mother 1177 01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:00.199 to take them. And so I think the connection mean 1178 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.920 the nephew and him had was strong and they were 1179 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:05.440 playing games. He almost came to tears when he was 1180 01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.559 talking with those poor kids losing their uncle John. And 1181 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:11.639 that was a tell for me. Another big tell. He 1182 01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.320 couldn't keep it composed. He's got he's got so much 1183 01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.280 guilt he's got you can see it in him. He's 1184 01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.519 just haunt. He's he's a he's a broken person, you know, 1185 01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:24.800 and broken people like to break people. And uh, Brian 1186 01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:29.559 Albert and stone cold man, his stone cold, stone cold dude. 1187 01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.920 He's just like you had the job to do was 1188 01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.920 get it done. No feelings, no emotions. Brian's a little 1189 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:38.840 bit more emotional, Higgins. And uh, if they could key 1190 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.480 onto that, I mean, who brings an attorney with them 1191 01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:43.000 to a trial? 1192 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:48.039 Who calls into a radio show like the JFK show 1193 01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:51.719 that that shows some sort of consciousness of guilt. 1194 01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:57.239 You're wrong, wrong, decorative dude. So my point is that 1195 01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.360 you we're probably not going to get in a quittal. 1196 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:01.440 I would love you get it, but there's no way 1197 01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:02.760 she's gonna spend the night in jail. 1198 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:06.239 Ever, they don't have any evidence, so there's no way 1199 01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:08.599 they could get twelve people to convict her. So I 1200 01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:09.800 am not even worried about that. 1201 01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:11.119 So are mad? 1202 01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:15.159 Kelly says, Does anyone remember Yanette as saying a guy 1203 01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:18.679 named Mike and told him they should look into the 1204 01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:19.559 Albit house. 1205 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:22.719 It was on the id doc Ye, the idea. 1206 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:25.079 They said scandalon. But do you know who that guy 1207 01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:25.679 Mike is? 1208 01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:28.360 So I guess that's the name he gave when he 1209 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:29.800 initially called Yanetti. 1210 01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:38.840 All right, I don't, I don't. We'll leave that one alone. 1211 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:44.639 Next question, next question, next question. The small the weird 1212 01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:46.599 part about this whole thing for me is that I 1213 01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:50.480 knew the father, the son, Paul, and John. I played 1214 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:52.719 basketball with all three of them, so I know they're 1215 01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.920 how they work as a family of brothers and father. 1216 01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:59.320 Like the dynamic. Like Paul is an athlete, he's quarterback 1217 01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:02.880 of Green Treek back to Stone Hills. He married his waitress, 1218 01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:05.320 Aaron was his waitress out of the bar down the street. 1219 01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:09.719 That's how they met and stuff, and so I know 1220 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:12.039 how he works. He's always been the guy digged inn 1221 01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.920 on campus, you know all this stuff, and uh, I 1222 01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:18.840 just feel like he's under so much pressure and he's 1223 01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:24.119 Tully was one of his linemen in college. Yeah, wow, yes, yes, 1224 01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.719 he usually offensive lineman on the college form. So if 1225 01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.239 you're in a locker room and you probably didn't play sports, 1226 01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.000 and you are a brother or brother, do you go 1227 01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.559 but you go, you tell me something, all Right, I'm 1228 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:37.320 gonna fight for that extra five yards for you if 1229 01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.079 you get to block that guy the outside. Uh, you know, 1230 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:42.440 quarterback that's gonna come up on me, and you take 1231 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:44.000 care of him. I'll get that extra five yards the 1232 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.199 first down. That's how I think they feel like. You're 1233 01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:48.480 telling me the truth, Tully. You're telling me that's how 1234 01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:50.800 it happened. All right, I believe you. You're a teammate, 1235 01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.519 will go way back to stone Hill. I love you, Bro, 1236 01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:55.719 I love you, bro. And Tully has. 1237 01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:58.039 Him, Well, let me get him, let me let me 1238 01:04:58.079 --> 01:04:59.960 chi him in here. Because I did play football team 1239 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:04.320 college and a lot of my teammates are law enforcement officers. 1240 01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:10.239 Uh huh yeah. And I will tell you that I 1241 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:13.599 would I would dime somebody out. Uh if I thought 1242 01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:17.000 that they if if I didn't believe them, there's got 1243 01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:21.039 there's a line somewhere, and to me that line, you've 1244 01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:21.960 crossed that line. 1245 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:22.960 Uh. 1246 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:26.280 I don't care if you're my teammate or not. If 1247 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:29.280 I thought that you're involved in the covering up of killing, 1248 01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:32.960 and I common sense, I can put all these different 1249 01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:37.519 facts that you've been outlining here together. I'm sorry. I'm 1250 01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:40.079 not gonna just say, ah, well, that guy died and 1251 01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:43.320 you're my teammates, so it's okay. There's a point where 1252 01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.960 that's not going to go and and these guys are 1253 01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:46.679 way past. 1254 01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:49.599 That is police, all right. And you see in Joe, 1255 01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:52.280 I mean in Paul's interview with Christina rex Is that 1256 01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:54.400 how did you how did you know it was Karada? 1257 01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:58.559 Or we just had a feeling what you had a 1258 01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:00.920 feeling that it was hurt. That's really when she came 1259 01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:02.880 back from the hospital and was in the kitchen, we 1260 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.880 all kind of felt, yeah, it was it was her. Now, Paul, 1261 01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:11.760 stop man, really and I believe mister O'Keeffe knows knows 1262 01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:14.239 the truth. He used to spend some go to church 1263 01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:17.400 with Karen on Sundays. John Wood you go, but his 1264 01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:17.920 father would go. 1265 01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:18.679 Uh. 1266 01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.199 There's a connection that when I talk about he's a plumber, 1267 01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.559 he's a blue collar guy. Uh. Good he was. He 1268 01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:26.159 had a good shot. He doesn't look like how I 1269 01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:28.320 used to remember him. He does look a little tired 1270 01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:30.519 and I don't know if he's talking a lot, but 1271 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.840 from what they here, there's two different addresses now. Paul's 1272 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.039 at one Meadows, rip the street from me with Missus O'Keefe, 1273 01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:42.119 the grandmother living at one Meadows, and mister O'Keefe senior 1274 01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:46.280 is at Braintree Aaron o'keef is in Bridgewater. So if 1275 01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.679 you look at the addresses for the witnesses, they're completely different. Now, Paul, 1276 01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.159 you know, stress can do a lot of things to 1277 01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:56.960 a lot of people, gamble, drinking, drugs, women, whatever. We 1278 01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.079 all have different devices at one time in our life. 1279 01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:04.760 Paul was an online person that had sympathy for him 1280 01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:06.639 or what said the right words to him, whatever, and 1281 01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:10.639 he exposed himself completely unfortunately, and it made him look 1282 01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.920 like a person with more with without a moral compass. 1283 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.639 I'll say that didn't know the words about the kids, 1284 01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:21.360 his own kids. Was was frightening to me? That was 1285 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:24.679 that was frightening, like wow, you know so uh? That 1286 01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:28.039 to me tells you that he's jilted the mother and 1287 01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:29.880 the son that sitting next to each other for comfortence, 1288 01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:31.760 support and love, like the Reed family. You see the 1289 01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.519 reads all lined up together like a family. You look across, 1290 01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:38.000 you see one and one at the other side, and 1291 01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:41.719 no communication, no nothing. The only one supporting missus Keith. 1292 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.199 Are they her sister in laws or her sisters, whoever 1293 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.519 they are. Paul sitting there alone on an island, trying 1294 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:50.280 to feel this out. I can't imagine what's going through 1295 01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:53.719 his head? And I know they did this test at 1296 01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:55.960 One Meadows and they backed out the car to show 1297 01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:00.639 Paul and the LETSUS trooper. Paul showed up Paul o'keef 1298 01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:04.719 how it she couldn't have hit his car right, and 1299 01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:06.719 they were asked if they wanted the video footage of that. 1300 01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:09.440 The defense and said, you know, skim outs are fine, 1301 01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:11.960 let's take the skim out of it because it's actually 1302 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:14.440 impossible the way you're trying to explain it to. Paul 1303 01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:17.880 had Paul o'keif at One Meadows after the trial to 1304 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:20.960 show him how the Lexus couldn't have hit the the 1305 01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:23.119 traverse that actually happened. 1306 01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.079 Well, except for the that we saw it on video 1307 01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:29.920 other than that part right right, and we saw the 1308 01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:33.239 wheel of the traverse move. Other than that, it couldn't 1309 01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:36.560 have happened. Other than the fact that it happened and 1310 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:38.640 we saw it on video, it couldn't have happened. Okay, 1311 01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:39.840 So it tells me. 1312 01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:42.880 So we have this juror jury. You know, they came back, 1313 01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:48.399 you know, acquittal, acquittal. Paul's got emotions evolved in this 1314 01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:51.760 more than anybody. And then you have these jurors on emotional, 1315 01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:55.800 unemotional as as he is. His emotions are controlling his thoughts, 1316 01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:58.880 which is very promment with people. You get skin emotional 1317 01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.199 more a loved one in shock. But by this time 1318 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:05.039 in my life, two or three years later, I should 1319 01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:08.000 have all those dots in my head exactly. The timeline 1320 01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:11.079 is written down. What's going on? Who said what? I'd 1321 01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:14.000 be all over with this. I wouldn't be getting hammered 1322 01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.600 the night before the first opening statement and being open 1323 01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:20.159 about that until four in the morning, and not saying 1324 01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:22.159 I might have been drunk when even on the stand, 1325 01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:24.600 that's what you want to be proud about. And then 1326 01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:27.920 to let yourself open like that, exposed to someone you've 1327 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:32.359 never met before, I ever met before. It's strange to 1328 01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:36.239 be right like it's almost like the pressure has cracked him. 1329 01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:38.359 It has, it has. 1330 01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:41.640 And it seems like John has exposed himself in more 1331 01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:42.279 ways than one. 1332 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.079 John you mean Paul. 1333 01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:46.479 Yep, I'm sorry, Paul O'Keefe. 1334 01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:51.960 Yeah, yes, yes, Unfortunately I can always say this. I 1335 01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:53.600 grew up in the eighties and if I had a 1336 01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:58.800 cell phone, shit would have been with all right, I 1337 01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:01.720 was gonna say, moving on, moving on. 1338 01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:04.479 What I really want to do, though, is because you 1339 01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:07.079 are one of the unique people in this case, Mike, 1340 01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:11.800 because you actually have heard John O'Keefe's voice. You know 1341 01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:16.439 John O'Keeffe. Ninety nine percent of the people listening here, 1342 01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:20.159 including the two of us, do not know John O'Keeffe. 1343 01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:24.239 Could you please tell us about John O'Keeffe. 1344 01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:30.640 Of course, sure. So I'm a big basketball player. I 1345 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:36.800 was in my early twenties. John was like fifth moon. Yeah, 1346 01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:39.199 so if he was so, if he was fifteen, I 1347 01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:43.399 was twenty two, okay, So playing hoops, we played in 1348 01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.199 Quincy at the Salvation Army. I was a four and 1349 01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:49.239 four league, and so we would get there make teams up, 1350 01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:51.399 and Pollock play and John playing, and the father play, 1351 01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:53.439 and all their friends who play, and I'd played. I 1352 01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:54.960 was probably one of the better players, one of the 1353 01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.399 other players at the time. His father would pulled me 1354 01:10:57.439 --> 01:10:59.560 aside and say, and you used to really beat on him. 1355 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.760 I was growing quick. He was getting bigger, and he 1356 01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:05.560 was skinny and stuff. But so he would tell me, 1357 01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:08.439 when you're playing Deth pushing like pushing, like I'm not 1358 01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:10.800 gonna push him down. Well, all right, at least try 1359 01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:12.079 to block it, you know. I'm like Okay, I'll do 1360 01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:15.039 whatever I can. And then he's a very competitive person. 1361 01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:19.119 John and Uh we would play till we get there 1362 01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:20.880 at five. We played at like nine o'clock at night. 1363 01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:23.600 We played one on ones, playing one on ones. So 1364 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.119 fast forward. I introduced him to one of his girlfriends 1365 01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:28.560 he dates for a while, so I hear all the 1366 01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.319 stories from her about how the how they had a 1367 01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:32.640 good time. He was actually his partner at the time 1368 01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:35.920 with Patrick that was in uh Boston Cop that is 1369 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:39.520 no longer with us. He's unlived. Uh that's another story 1370 01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:42.279 for another time. So I was involved at that part 1371 01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:45.000 of it, uh because what she had told me, like 1372 01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:48.319 how untrue that what was? And he's such a nice guy. 1373 01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:52.600 I can't believe it happened. So, Uh, he dates them, 1374 01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.960 they break up, he's never getting married. I find out 1375 01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:57.119 about the kids and stuff. 1376 01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:57.439 Uh. 1377 01:11:57.720 --> 01:11:59.359 He tells me the whole story, and I'm just like 1378 01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:04.680 blown away. I'm playing hoop. He's got he's working still, 1379 01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:08.399 so he doesn't want to play hoop anymore. And he's 1380 01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:10.159 go only be he's a father, you know what I mean. 1381 01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:12.920 He's a father. He's a single dad basically going through 1382 01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:15.119 Canton and he's got two great kids. He loves a 1383 01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.800 lot and just I'll give you for instance, like I 1384 01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:22.439 have his numbers still, I just ben Mo Still. My 1385 01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:25.720 wife who has a is a fast driver. She and 1386 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:28.279 she works in Cambridge and we live in Canton, so 1387 01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:30.880 she cuts through Milton and all these back roads. In 1388 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.520 one week she got two screen tickets from a state trooper. 1389 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:36.239 The same trooper on the same road in the same 1390 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:40.239 week gave her two tickets on one phone call to John. 1391 01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:46.439 They were taken care of in less than a day. Wow. 1392 01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:49.159 So that's the type of guy. Yeah. Yeah, if you're 1393 01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:51.359 friends with him, you have friends with him for life. 1394 01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:53.359 No matter what you need, if it was a Boston 1395 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:56.319 ticket or whatever, he would make that. He was that 1396 01:12:56.439 --> 01:12:59.079 guy at the office that if you knew him, he 1397 01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:01.079 knew all the ticket because he was working inside with 1398 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:02.880 the bracelets and stuff. He was a nine to five 1399 01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:04.840 on the desk. He wasn't out on the streets, but 1400 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:08.960 he was like a go between State Boston pe because 1401 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:10.600 if a state cap had a problem with the Boston 1402 01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:12.640 PD ticket, go the other way, you know what I mean. 1403 01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:16.720 He would. He was well known and he knew Patrick 1404 01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:18.640 at the time that was no longer with us, and 1405 01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:21.800 uh so he got rid of those tickets. I'm just like, 1406 01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:23.920 and so I'll never forget the second time I had 1407 01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:26.199 a calm, I had to call him again the same week, 1408 01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:31.880 the same week, and he's like, what I go, You're 1409 01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.159 not gonna tell him the whole story. He's like, he listen, 1410 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:38.560 tell you my wife to slow down. I'll take care 1411 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:40.920 of it. I'll talk to you later. Click. You know, 1412 01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:42.680 just that's just the way. Like he was like a 1413 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.560 brother that you don't talk to every like everywhere every 1414 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:46.439 couple of months, and he's picked the phone up. You 1415 01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:48.880 pick up right way you left off, because you had to. 1416 01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:52.039 It was personality. He knew mine. You know, he's busted 1417 01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:55.079 my chops. I busted his shops. I had no idea 1418 01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.920 we lived in the same town until he passed away, 1419 01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:03.119 really no idea. So yeah, so we never talked about 1420 01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:05.319 where we were living. I was living and can he 1421 01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:07.279 was living. Let's than a quarter mile away from at 1422 01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:12.039 the time. His good friend Mike Camarado lives four houses 1423 01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:15.159 away from me right now at the end of my road. Yeah, 1424 01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:18.119 I know Mike, yep, I know his wife, I know 1425 01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:20.760 the kids. I walked by these with my dogs every 1426 01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:25.239 single day, and there didn't know Mike knew John. I 1427 01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:27.760 had no idea that Mike and John were friends until 1428 01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:30.159 the trial and I see him up on the stand. 1429 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:35.479 I go, that's that's my neighbor. That's Mike. It was weird, dude. 1430 01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.880 It was just like it was almost like John was 1431 01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:41.239 like up there going, dude, wake up, wake up, help 1432 01:14:41.279 --> 01:14:44.199 me out here. I need you. You know, some sly 1433 01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:47.720 shit went down, need your help. That's why I jumped in. 1434 01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:50.039 I said, this is this is way odd. Because I 1435 01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:52.640 heard about the ring camera from jail for they got 1436 01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:55.760 an own film. I'm like, oh, this is my god, 1437 01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:58.439 what happened? You know? And that went away. Then I'm 1438 01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:03.479 like and then Turtle Boy Boom was on. I started 1439 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:06.680 going to standouts, I started getting involved. I was at 1440 01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:09.319 Stoton District Court fortin I've never done anything of that 1441 01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:13.840 in my life. John, and and once the corruption started 1442 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.520 I could see it for myself. I got even got 1443 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:20.239 more involved in the and that you know, my time, 1444 01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:22.399 my energy. I never thought of a million, as you 1445 01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:24.119 told me last year, i'd be doing a YouTube channel 1446 01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:25.920 with you guys. You know, I would just wouldn't a 1447 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:28.199 thought of it. But it's just the way my life 1448 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:32.960 is gone, and uh uh, and I'm happy I'm doing it. 1449 01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:35.439 And I don't get paid to do any of the stuff. 1450 01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:38.159 I'd do it for my own just free will and 1451 01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:40.079 whatever bit I can give to my heart and my 1452 01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:42.439 time my mind, I'll give it to John in the 1453 01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:45.359 second because he went through hell. Man, you got we 1454 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:47.399 went through hell that night, and no one deserves to 1455 01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:50.800 go out like that. Is there a funny story we 1456 01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:53.239 haven't heard about? Og? Oh, yeah, you'd like to talk 1457 01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:55.560 shit all the time when we're playing basketball in my Yeah, 1458 01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:58.520 and push me with his shop elbow and like just 1459 01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:01.720 push me down, push me down, and I'll tell you 1460 01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:03.680 he had a certain type of girl. They like all 1461 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:08.479 of his girlfriends were made built the same look like legit, 1462 01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.119 he dated what he did one of these triplets that 1463 01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:13.960 I knew, and they all have the sand and then 1464 01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:15.960 you know, and she was a good girl. She her 1465 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.560 follow was a cop. So she's now dating a cap. 1466 01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:20.960 It's like kind of like a this cop fetish thing. 1467 01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.479 I don't know. I don't know what the bad badge 1468 01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:27.399 of punnies they call. I don't know. Yeah, so I 1469 01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:29.520 would hear I would like it'd be funny because they 1470 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:32.800 would go drinking and she would tell me on Monday, 1471 01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:34.800 like what they did Saturday night and stuff, and like 1472 01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.800 the stuff that they get away with with that badge. 1473 01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:42.199 What they do with that thing sometimes going out Salthi 1474 01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:44.600 or in town, or something happens with a car accident. 1475 01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:46.600 I'll just say that John was in a car accident 1476 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:51.800 one time. Told his car in Boston. He was able 1477 01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:56.439 to get out of that because of a couple of saspies, 1478 01:16:56.520 --> 01:16:59.359 you know what I mean, and walk away no harm 1479 01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:03.640 following Boston, got just way out of it. Yep. Oh yeah, 1480 01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:05.720 told him, Yeah, he told him he wrecked it in 1481 01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:09.479 Palla and scared him. That's the thing about John. It'll 1482 01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:11.560 happened once he won't it won't happen again, you know 1483 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:13.680 what I mean. That was a bad mistake. I could 1484 01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:16.239 have lost my job. I could have killed somebody. Uh 1485 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:18.159 you know this is time. Who I am? Maybe I 1486 01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:21.119 should stop slowly down on the partying a little bit, 1487 01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:23.319 but man, he'd like to have a good time. So 1488 01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:25.960 then when he gets older, we're playing hope. We offer 1489 01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:27.760 beers a couple of times when he's when he's old 1490 01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:29.680 enough and stuff. But that's how it was with me. 1491 01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:32.079 It was more like a big brother. Hey, it's up 1492 01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:35.800 in the head. Uh yeah. So when you when you 1493 01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:38.800 go into a locker room and you you shower and 1494 01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:40.560 you're talking all this ship you're getting ready to go 1495 01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:42.840 out whatever. Obviously he was going home to go to school. 1496 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.199 I was doing my thing. It's just, you know, he's 1497 01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:47.720 like a little brother to me. Pino Is. You know, 1498 01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:53.520 it was weird and then then uh is uh so 1499 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:55.520 that's how I think about it, you know, and uh 1500 01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:58.039 having them come in and out of my life at 1501 01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:00.520 different times in my life, and you know, not talk 1502 01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:01.880 to him for a year or two, then talk to 1503 01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:03.439 him for a year. We catch it like that, like 1504 01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:05.680 it was like a broth thing like I'll never forget. 1505 01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:08.800 He walked up the hallway to go go do something. 1506 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:11.039 He came walking right back to my office. He goes, 1507 01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:15.640 who's that girl out there? I walked him right out 1508 01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:19.279 here and I introduced some next thing the door. He 1509 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:21.520 shift back into my office the little way we're gonna 1510 01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:25.279 go Saturday night. I go, oh okay. And it was 1511 01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:26.560 you know, if that went out for like a year 1512 01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:29.880 or two, off and on whenever, these kids in this 1513 01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:32.079 twenties he's a cop. He's six two, you know what 1514 01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:35.199 I mean. Every like he's like, yeah, you know, he's 1515 01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:36.880 living with the had a roommate. They were like living 1516 01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:40.840 in Southeast life, the life, and then then the stuff 1517 01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:43.640 happened with his sister. And his sister was the best 1518 01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:45.680 basketball player out of the wall. She had a full 1519 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:49.159 ride at Province or you or I feel which one 1520 01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:51.840 it was your province. She was the best basketball player 1521 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:58.479 out of the boys. So that was that was interesting. Curious. 1522 01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:01.119 I there's a good question should I have started up above? 1523 01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:04.880 That'd like to ask you by Brian Albitt. But before 1524 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:13.439 I do that, some curious with regards to John, where 1525 01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:18.159 do you think this relationship if we're sitting on April second, 1526 01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:23.479 twenty twenty four, this John and Karen up and down relationship, 1527 01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:24.640 where do you think we are today? 1528 01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:27.720 Twenty four, twenty five twenty. 1529 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:31.600 Sorry, twenty twenty five. I'm a year behind, thank you, 1530 01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:32.800 twenty twenty five. 1531 01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:34.640 No worries. I just want to be sure i'd give 1532 01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:37.279 you the right answer, because, yes, sir, you know, I 1533 01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:41.079 don't think the way I know John. I don't think 1534 01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:45.039 it goes on. But John's at he's forty six, a 1535 01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:50.000 time he started thinking, Yes, things change in your brain, 1536 01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:54.640 Chemicals changed in your brains, brain plural brains, and things 1537 01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:56.439 not to change. And you're looking at it for two 1538 01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:59.479 other people besides yourself now that are getting attached to it. 1539 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:01.920 On the person that you brought into their life. John 1540 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.520 chose to bring Karen into his life. John chose to 1541 01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:07.680 introduce those children to her. It's gonna be reciprocal. She's 1542 01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:09.920 gonna love them. They're gonna love her all right, just 1543 01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:12.199 the way the world works. And I think John's John 1544 01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:15.239 was growing up, he realized what was going on. I 1545 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:17.640 think it could have been something, but I'm not gonna 1546 01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:20.439 put words in anybody's mouth. I wasn't there for that stuff. 1547 01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:23.439 And you know, I didn't know about it. I didn't 1548 01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:24.920 know if the drink it was bad. That's what they 1549 01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:27.359 did every weekend. And you know, I've heard the things about, 1550 01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:30.960 you know, Higgins being over the house and the Ruba trips. 1551 01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:35.840 You know, every marriage, every couple goes through something. You know, uh, 1552 01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:39.760 good batter and different, good batter and different. I think 1553 01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:42.840 every couple that makes it through it, they're stronger together 1554 01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:44.760 depending on what that problem might be for that person. 1555 01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:48.159 If it's just too much of this work, too much play, 1556 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:50.439 too much. Whatever it might be, if it doesn't make 1557 01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:53.680 you stronger, it makes you better. Those are just normal 1558 01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:56.039 in and out of a marriage. We asked any married couple. 1559 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:58.520 Yet we almost didn't make it. You hear all the time, no, 1560 01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:00.800 no ever says we had the We've never had a 1561 01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:04.600 word in life, never had a problem. The people excuse me, 1562 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.079 so I don't. I don't want to put words in 1563 01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:10.359 my mouth. But John at the time was a marrying guy. 1564 01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:12.399 He was at that point in his life where I 1565 01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:16.920 think he could have said, you know what, Yeah, I'll 1566 01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:18.840 straighten out and we see how this goes for another 1567 01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.319 year or so. Karen might have been done with him. 1568 01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:22.880 I don't know. I don't know what she was thinking. 1569 01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:26.800 It sounds like she was pretty at the at the 1570 01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:29.079 end if he didn't change, like if he wasn't going 1571 01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:31.039 to change, she was gonna be my right. And if 1572 01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:32.960 he wasn't going to change and show any type of 1573 01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:35.960 you know, effort to make it change about when he 1574 01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:38.199 was living, how how he was living his life, and 1575 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.680 who he was hanging around with. Because she she has 1576 01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:45.439 mentioned that by Usmosis she was brought into these groups 1577 01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:48.960 of people of going out and cops and robbers and 1578 01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:51.560 all this other stuff. I think if she could do 1579 01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:53.840 things different, she probably would have and not been involved 1580 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:56.800 with those types of people. I think she's high classed. 1581 01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:59.800 I think she's better than John. She you know, I 1582 01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.880 always told to marry someone better than me, and you do. 1583 01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:05.960 Just try to marry someone that's gonna and stimulate you 1584 01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:09.039 intellectually and take you on a journey that you've never 1585 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:12.279 had before. And I think, yeah, I think John found 1586 01:22:12.279 --> 01:22:15.279 that in Karen. But Karen, I think was finding out 1587 01:22:15.319 --> 01:22:17.319 slowly that you know, I don't want to do this 1588 01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:18.840 the way we're doing it for the next five ten 1589 01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:21.119 years of our lives. Stop the way along with my life. 1590 01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:24.880 But you've got children involved. How many people stay together 1591 01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.359 for the kids that don't get divorce that maybe should have, right, 1592 01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:29.359 I'm not saying they would marriage to the hip like that, 1593 01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:31.279 which is good. She's like that. They weren't my kids. 1594 01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:34.159 And she can. She's a smart girl. She can partneralize 1595 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:36.880 feelings and put them back, the work through them and 1596 01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:39.680 get through with her family and a higher spirit and 1597 01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:43.199 talk about these things which Paul's not doing. But you know, 1598 01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:45.960 Peggy's not. I don't know what they're doing. How do 1599 01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:48.119 you handle that kind of pressure? Waking up every day 1600 01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:50.119 you have a murder charge hanging over your head and 1601 01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:51.840 you're gotta get up and be in a court roomt 1602 01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:56.800 nine o'clock or something. You didn't didn't do that, my friend, That, 1603 01:22:56.960 --> 01:23:00.880 my friend, is strength, and that comes within within, and 1604 01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:03.479 it comes from the family who you surround yourself with. 1605 01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:06.560 Surround yourself with positive people, with winners in your life. 1606 01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:08.359 You will end up being that way. You keep on 1607 01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:11.880 surrounding yourself with people that get into alcohol, drugs, not 1608 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:13.840 sure you know that kind of thing, you're gonna You're 1609 01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:16.560 gonna turn into that person. I think both of them 1610 01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:18.920 were smart enough to figure that out and to change 1611 01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:21.520 their life, but I don't know. I wish they would 1612 01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:23.000 have been together. It kind of kind of cool if 1613 01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:25.680 they made it in life, because I think I'm selfish. 1614 01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.960 I think about the kids. If the kids were attached 1615 01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:30.279 to Karen the way I think they were, and like 1616 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:33.039 anybody would be attached to Karen. How much love did 1617 01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:35.399 she get walking down the sidewalk, how much love cheering 1618 01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:37.399 did she get? And then don't even know who she is? 1619 01:23:37.439 --> 01:23:40.079 They just know the case, right, these kids knew her. 1620 01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:43.199 Well, that's the thing. 1621 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:46.039 She brought stability to these kids' lives. 1622 01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:50.520 And everybody needs a mother figure in their life, everybody does. 1623 01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:53.319 You know? I was lucky to have my mom my 1624 01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:55.600 whole life. I didn't have to deal with that type 1625 01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:58.720 of things. But you will. You grow up a different 1626 01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:03.039 way if you don't, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, ned igree 1627 01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:06.119 with one hundred percent. Everybody's have problems, you know, except 1628 01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:08.039 for me, I'm perfect, okay, of. 1629 01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.960 Course, aside from you though, most people. 1630 01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:15.159 Yeah, I actually counseled couples on weekends at a bar. 1631 01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:24.079 I'm just so Go see dive bar pizza, Go see Mike. 1632 01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:27.560 It's a free family and marriage counseling. 1633 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:29.479 All you have to do is buy him a beer 1634 01:24:29.640 --> 01:24:30.960 and like a Pepperoni pizza. 1635 01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:34.800 People hate the word therapy, are or anything like that. Okay, 1636 01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:37.479 if you don't want to go see a professional PhD 1637 01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:41.159 therapist or you know, psychologists or whatever you want to 1638 01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:43.800 call that person, do we rather sit next to uh 1639 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:48.840 the guy at the bar big Al's right and ask him, way, 1640 01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:53.439 what should do? How did you handle this thing? No? Thanks, man, No, 1641 01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:57.680 I want the want the docmentus degree on the wall 1642 01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:01.319 that's telling me you're actually no, no, she's actually right. You 1643 01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:04.760 gotta spin that around and look at it from her eyes. 1644 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:06.840 And you know, I can tell you honestly, you know, 1645 01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:09.800 face the face, that therapy has changed me completely as 1646 01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:12.640 a human being. Because I was and I was like, 1647 01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:15.880 you know, alpha type A and I had a tone 1648 01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:19.800 that back man, because I had married one like out 1649 01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:23.600 two hours you got to go like this right, So 1650 01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.439 I was like, I was just like, you know what, 1651 01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:30.079 work was stressing me out. She was her idea, don't 1652 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:35.800 you go. I'm like my brother. I don't touch my brother. 1653 01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:38.279 I did right. It was the best thing I ever did. 1654 01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:42.600 And guys, trust me when I tell you you don't 1655 01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:45.319 tell anybody to do it. But you know what I'm 1656 01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:48.319 telling you because it saved my life in a certain way, 1657 01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:50.359 you know what I mean. I just I feel like, 1658 01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:52.960 if you're smart enough to figure out that someone that's 1659 01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:55.199 smarter than you that can tell you how to fix things, 1660 01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:59.000 you do it. You don't take it from big Al's 1661 01:25:59.039 --> 01:26:02.199 bar the claim she with the white law, No, no, no, no, no, 1662 01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:03.760 just sleep on the couch, that you'd be fine. Let's 1663 01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:05.800 talk about the morning. Oh the one thing I've learned 1664 01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:07.399 in life is you don't go to bed mad at 1665 01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:08.880 each other. Just don't. 1666 01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:11.800 I would never do that, Okay, I might have done 1667 01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:14.760 that a couple of times. First of all, we have 1668 01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:18.159 something we want to tackle from miss Jessica and Busy here. 1669 01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:21.960 Her brother was red Rum. She says, we never got justice, 1670 01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:26.159 and my parents' family never acted like the o'keefesh. And 1671 01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:29.079 then I had a friend, a high school classmate, was 1672 01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:32.399 murdered about two weeks ago. We covered that on the 1673 01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:36.760 show last week. So yeah, I'm I do feel bad 1674 01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:40.640 for the o'keefes, but and I agree with you Jesson, 1675 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:43.680 and I'm sorry about what happened with your your brother. 1676 01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:45.640 We have discussed that on the show, and you're welcome 1677 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:49.239 to come on and discuss anytime. In the meantime, Nan 1678 01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:55.840 Gallagher has decided to make the most incredible. 1679 01:26:56.800 --> 01:26:59.039 Super chat to the show that I could have imagined. 1680 01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:04.000 Nan, we love your friendship and we appreciate you so much, 1681 01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:05.199 and thank. 1682 01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:05.560 You so much. 1683 01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:08.920 You really didn't need to do that, and I must 1684 01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:13.000 stay she's amazing. 1685 01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:13.319 I know. 1686 01:27:13.399 --> 01:27:16.079 We made her a thank you card because she came 1687 01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:18.720 on with us for the third time at least the 1688 01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:22.039 other day, and so Bia and I decided to make 1689 01:27:22.079 --> 01:27:26.399 her a virtual video thank you card and send it 1690 01:27:26.439 --> 01:27:29.159 to her and and Nan, thank you so much. You're 1691 01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:33.199 incredibly kind and we hope to have you back on 1692 01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:33.680 on weekend. 1693 01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:36.600 She's an acet to this community, truly. 1694 01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:40.479 Please go ahead, thank you, Yes, thank you, please go ahead. 1695 01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:42.800 Bia no I was just saying, she's an asset to 1696 01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:46.520 this community, and she's always telling us to, you know, 1697 01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:51.079 keep showing up. But we need her too because her her, 1698 01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:52.319 she's invaluable. 1699 01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:55.239 Yep, she is. She's like a therapist for me. And 1700 01:27:55.279 --> 01:28:01.199 sometimes like's like, hey, she'll just talk so intellectually and 1701 01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:04.199 break down a motion and break this down and just 1702 01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:06.960 like have this cheery atmosphere and can you guys hear 1703 01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:09.600 that noise? I'm sorry, it's bothering, Like you just keep talking. 1704 01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:11.920 I don't hear no noise and the alarms going off. 1705 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:13.840 She's gone, and she'll text me and say do you 1706 01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:15.680 want me to jump in? And I've had the pleasure 1707 01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:19.760 to have a drink with her at coffees. Okay, that changes, 1708 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:22.640 that changes everything. When you when I saw I met 1709 01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:25.399 will you know the the glare we said that we talked. 1710 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:28.479 You know what I mean, saw mad. When you meet 1711 01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:31.319 these people that you see like on YouTube, it kind 1712 01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.119 of changes everything, you know a little bit. I know Nan, 1713 01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:38.079 I know she smells the motion in the basket. You know, 1714 01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:41.439 I can just get her. 1715 01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:46.680 And she's the most realist person. Every how she is 1716 01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.319 on the show and how genuine and how she shows 1717 01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:50.520 her like how she. 1718 01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:52.359 Is, She's the same in person. 1719 01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:54.960 She will talk to you, give you the time of day, 1720 01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:57.079 make you feel like you're the only one in the room. 1721 01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:00.760 And she has that special that's what special about it. 1722 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:03.439 I think she I think she still is a very 1723 01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:08.399 successful lawyer. I've never actually to I don't want to 1724 01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:10.319 do that. I want to I want the Nan I know, 1725 01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:12.159 just to be the Nan I know. You know what 1726 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:13.640 I mean. I don't need to know about he wins 1727 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:15.439 or losses. But if I tell you, if I'm in 1728 01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:17.800 a jury and she's talking to me, I'm buying what 1729 01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:20.119 she's selling. I'm buying what she's selling, you know what 1730 01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:22.439 I mean, I'm gonna be like, what is going on 1731 01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:23.640 up there? Bro? Yeah? 1732 01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:26.680 First of all, let me let me say, let me 1733 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.000 say thank you to please pass the pepper. Thank you 1734 01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:32.520 so much. It was great to speak with you yesterday, 1735 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:37.399 and I spoke with your son James James Jackson Johnson 1736 01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:44.000 Jones and Nan, Yeah, you're so incredibly kind. I really 1737 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:48.199 don't know what's right now. I'm just you know, but 1738 01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:50.920 thank you, and I will certainly. 1739 01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:55.640 She's putting an edition on. She's putting a new addition 1740 01:29:56.039 --> 01:29:58.680 on our house, another four thousand square feet of her mansion. 1741 01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:03.359 She'll get what I'm saying. She'll get what I'm saying 1742 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:05.760 because they should build it. She'll builds at our house. 1743 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:08.199 This one. We had her on going over some motions 1744 01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:10.199 and they were like, all these saws are going off, 1745 01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:11.840 and she's like, I go, what are you putting another 1746 01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:14.680 four thousand squift but audition on? With these all the 1747 01:30:14.680 --> 01:30:16.239 money you're making off of YouTube right now? And she 1748 01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:19.199 just lost it. She just lost it, you know. And 1749 01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:24.520 she's such a good person, man. I just say she's yeah, 1750 01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:25.159 I am. 1751 01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:29.079 There are people in our community that find themselves to 1752 01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:32.239 be a celebrity, and you really need to know that 1753 01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:37.359 none of us are celebrities, Nan, you know, like she's 1754 01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:39.199 just a regular person just like us. 1755 01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:40.000 That's all we are. 1756 01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.319 We're just regular people that happen to be on YouTube, 1757 01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:46.760 nobody hears a celebrity and and that is kind of 1758 01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:49.800 like the mindset that I try to take into this 1759 01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:52.199 because we're all just people which happen to do a 1760 01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:54.600 YouTube show, but we're just regular people. 1761 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:56.000 And so if. 1762 01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:58.119 You keep that and Nan, you know, makes you realize 1763 01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:01.279 that she actually is somebody. It's I don't remember, but 1764 01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:06.039 they were talking about the Canton Board and things that 1765 01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:08.439 could be done or not done with the select board, 1766 01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:11.359 and Nan related that she set. She sits on the 1767 01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:16.800 boards of about ten different companies and she has two 1768 01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:21.479 law practices. So this is an incredibly successful woman that 1769 01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:23.359 has given her time. 1770 01:31:25.239 --> 01:31:27.720 I'm sorry, Yeah, okay, I missed miss. 1771 01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:35.359 Slip Sexy woman too, but she yes, she is. 1772 01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:43.920 I mean but that you said right now. But no, 1773 01:31:44.079 --> 01:31:45.199 she's a. 1774 01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:49.439 Very very successful woman and don't to give of her 1775 01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:52.119 time to come to Massachusetts to meet the boots on 1776 01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:54.479 the ground. She didn't just want to meet the you know, 1777 01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:57.239 folks like Karen and the Glare and Turtle Boy. 1778 01:31:57.319 --> 01:31:59.039 But she met everybody she met. 1779 01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:02.479 She met people that were standing out in the street 1780 01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.319 and that means a lot. Yes, yes, exactly, that's true. 1781 01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:12.279 So anyway, yeah, dude, you came out here too, man. 1782 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:15.319 DJ you were of course, oh yeah, but you didn't 1783 01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:16.399 come to the meal food. 1784 01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:19.079 So now I have to come back because right now 1785 01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:22.239 check me. I mean, I look at I look at me, 1786 01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:25.479 and right I look at guys like Scott McGinnis, Dennis Sweeney, 1787 01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:28.640 boots on the ground field. You know that attorneys but 1788 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:33.239 play their role so good and are so important to us. 1789 01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:37.319 You know, Scott McGinnis to walk through that uh front 1790 01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:40.159 of the Denham Courthouse and have be with that serving 1791 01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:43.800 justice TV guy, have that ripped off of him like 1792 01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:47.640 that the badge ripped off of the servant justice Gentleman 1793 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:49.800 Michael I. Blue was and Scott was there here to 1794 01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:52.640 put a bag over the sign that didn't say free 1795 01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:56.960 kir and read. That's invaluable. That's invalua that we can 1796 01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:59.039 talk about. That we can say. But have somebody in 1797 01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:01.720 our chat right now that did that. Have Dennisue that 1798 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:04.960 goes up to every standout, forms his own stands out 1799 01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:08.039 in Denim has a very successful following. People love that guy, 1800 01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:10.840 Karen Huggs Bell every time he comes to the court 1801 01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:14.159 because what he does, what he brings is something that I, 1802 01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:15.439 you know, I don't know if I could do it 1803 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:18.560 and show up and show up every day, I can 1804 01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:21.640 do this. It's easier for me in my schedule, you 1805 01:33:21.680 --> 01:33:23.880 know what I mean? Him and his wife, Dennis and 1806 01:33:23.880 --> 01:33:26.520 his wife showing up. They live in Canton. They go 1807 01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:30.520 to select board meetings. They help out this us Susie Harrington, 1808 01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:33.920 and we want this person to win. H yeah, no kid, 1809 01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:36.720 yeah yeah. I heard she's building a boat because the 1810 01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:40.359 trolls are trying to figure out where she lives. But 1811 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:42.680 but like they show up, probably the mass meal food 1812 01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:47.960 because we all she'll have it cater by the way, 1813 01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:50.600 I trust. We want to tell you. But like those 1814 01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:55.239 people begin this Tommy cpu Turtle, like they show up right, 1815 01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:58.399 they rally the troops. You know, even though we didn't 1816 01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:00.680 have all the answers on my two day where we 1817 01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:03.960 could and couldn't go, we still stuck together. We still 1818 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:06.239 tried to make it work. They were there today. I'm 1819 01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:10.640 sure right, Yeah, Demmy, I'm from bro and I mean 1820 01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:13.000 that stuff like I mean that. I really do mean it. 1821 01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:15.720 Because people can say I would have done that, I 1822 01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:19.079 could have done that. No, he's doing it. He's there now. 1823 01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:21.840 He's he showed up yesterday, show up today, he went 1824 01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:23.640 to and then he goes to a slegtboard meeting, and 1825 01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:25.640 then he hangs out with John Como and does something else, 1826 01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:27.640 and then he does something else right now, but this 1827 01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:31.560 guy shows up. Its showing up. Scott McGinnis Raine sleeve 1828 01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:33.920 of snow. Scott McGinness is ready to go. Telling you 1829 01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:37.079 that Rymes, by the way, if you caught that range 1830 01:34:37.079 --> 01:34:39.279 sleeve of snow, Scott McGinnis is ready to go. I 1831 01:34:39.319 --> 01:34:41.760 don't you didn't like that? Huh No, they're trying to 1832 01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:46.199 reach the dudes, I'm telling you. 1833 01:34:46.319 --> 01:34:49.960 And they they they answer the phone when when I call, and. 1834 01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:52.640 It's like they're calling me, they're calling you, they're calling. 1835 01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:55.560 We don't call them. We don't have to because we 1836 01:34:55.640 --> 01:34:58.439 know when we show up and get him, who's gonna 1837 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:02.479 be there. There we're gonna see is. I see Scott 1838 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:06.079 McGinnis every morning, you can't miss him. I see Dennis 1839 01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:09.199 and his wife every morning. I see this Alison. I 1840 01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:11.680 see all these other people there that are always there. 1841 01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:14.560 Jessica is online. These people are do standouts, are doing 1842 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.560 seventy weeks in a row now, I mean Natural Standout 1843 01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:20.199 was a big success, you know, right. 1844 01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:24.600 Yeah, I was in Yeah, all right, any of us 1845 01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:25.560 on the sidewalk. 1846 01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:27.600 Plus my dog le. 1847 01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:30.840 Etsy was on a live stream with us, and she 1848 01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:33.880 jumps on and she's walking from her car to the sidewalk. 1849 01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:37.760 Now there's another creator there be lt L. He's at 1850 01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:41.119 one side's on the other side. The hugs, the love, 1851 01:35:41.239 --> 01:35:45.039 the appreciation of showing up. That goes a long way. 1852 01:35:45.399 --> 01:35:47.640 And there were so many people there that she didn't 1853 01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:50.600 find Brian, and Brian couldn't find her, and every and 1854 01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:53.399 the energy coming through the screen was just. 1855 01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:58.079 Like, Yo, my god, dude, that's what I'm talking That's 1856 01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:00.479 you can't put a price tag on that, because that's 1857 01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:02.960 the hearts and minds of people that don't know the 1858 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:05.319 case that Michael home after seeing that. 1859 01:36:05.279 --> 01:36:08.239 And go what's this all about? Please find out why 1860 01:36:08.279 --> 01:36:10.479 these people are standing out here every week on a 1861 01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:14.079 Sunday of their own time, waving and giving us a 1862 01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:17.399 peaceful protest every single time. Why are these people down 1863 01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:20.560 in Denham, Why these people out in Marlboro, Lot, Auburn, 1864 01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:25.760 North Carolina, Florida, you name it. It's not just the Massachusetts thing. 1865 01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:28.800 It's it's it's grown up to be this. It exploded 1866 01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:31.399 into this national almost a worldwide campaign. 1867 01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:32.960 And it's peaceful. 1868 01:36:33.239 --> 01:36:36.920 It's peaceful, the cops aren't called. You're out there, you're safe, 1869 01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:39.840 and you know you have the most amazing I mean, 1870 01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:45.560 look at Peter Murphy. He went, he walked. Somebody was 1871 01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:47.560 taking a picture. Oh my Godina was taking a picture. 1872 01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:52.079 He literally walked across that road Route nine or whatever 1873 01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:55.840 it's called, Providence Highway. 1874 01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:56.600 Yeah, route one. 1875 01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:58.960 That's what I meant, and walked her, held her hand 1876 01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:02.640 and walked her back to the side, right, like a gentleman. 1877 01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:03.359 People. 1878 01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:07.840 He's a gentleman. He was brought up right. Yes, you more, 1879 01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:10.000 you get a moral compass of what's right. You know, 1880 01:37:10.119 --> 01:37:12.520 I'm a little female walk across the street and it's busy, right, No, 1881 01:37:12.640 --> 01:37:15.920 hold on a second, right back. I opened my wife's 1882 01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:18.760 kind of do words those you know, things in life 1883 01:37:19.159 --> 01:37:22.239 I get forgotten sometimes. And it's just the way you're raised, 1884 01:37:22.239 --> 01:37:24.479 the way the way you think, the who you've been around, 1885 01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:26.239 who do you hang around with. Do you want to 1886 01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:29.000 be better in life? Yeah? You should be and want 1887 01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:31.279 to be. And I look at people like Dennis and 1888 01:37:31.319 --> 01:37:35.000 his wife and read and Lombardies of Canton, and Canton's 1889 01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:37.359 going through a struggle right now, man, can's a weird 1890 01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:41.359 place to live. You go to the Shaw supermarket, no 1891 01:37:41.359 --> 01:37:46.319 one's talking to anybody, no one talking. No, wow, No, 1892 01:37:46.520 --> 01:37:50.479 it's a weird place man. And I so I don't 1893 01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:54.079 really go there a lot. Maybe it's just me, but 1894 01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:56.079 ken't being me every single time I go there, there's 1895 01:37:56.279 --> 01:37:59.039 no one just just it's just like silence. You know. 1896 01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:02.720 The you heard there was an interview on NYCN and 1897 01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:04.840 they interviewed people in the parking a lot of Shaws, 1898 01:38:05.079 --> 01:38:09.880 and they were older boomers and they felt attention. They said, 1899 01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:12.720 depending would bar you go to to have a drink. 1900 01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:16.760 You can't talk about certain things. You know, you can't 1901 01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:19.119 bring up a conversation because someone next to you might 1902 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:21.920 feel differently about that. And you live in Kin. It 1903 01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:25.039 shouldn't be that way, but people feel that way. And 1904 01:38:25.079 --> 01:38:28.359 you know people, you know, people know they're not divided. Bullshit. 1905 01:38:28.760 --> 01:38:32.600 I'm calling bullshit, man, because they are right. They are divided. 1906 01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:35.079 You know, we have to vote to get these things 1907 01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:38.399 through our special elections. We wanted we had, we had 1908 01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:42.199 this audit done. We won that. We're actually questioning now 1909 01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:44.560 if you know that we don't think it was good enough. 1910 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:47.600 But what they put in there already is damning for 1911 01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:50.600 the Canton Police Department. And a fish rots from the 1912 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:54.680 head down. If you've lost the morale of your people, 1913 01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:59.439 shame on you, Chief Rafvity, Shame on you, Chief Ravity. 1914 01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:02.119 Like she's like the head coach, right, you move it on, right, 1915 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:04.479 you fire, and you fireing the head coach in the 1916 01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:07.079 locker room, bringing in the assistant coach. You're gonna try 1917 01:39:07.079 --> 01:39:09.279 to change the attitude. Might train a play or two, 1918 01:39:09.439 --> 01:39:14.239 right though they might retire. That's keep blaming social media 1919 01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:19.479 content creators from making the morale of your people. Upset. 1920 01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:23.359 Criby a river all right, Criby a river man, I 1921 01:39:23.479 --> 01:39:26.680 understand your job is hard man. Welcome to the real world. 1922 01:39:26.680 --> 01:39:28.720 You chose that that's what you want to be when 1923 01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:30.199 you're a little kid and you want to grow up 1924 01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:32.159 in kN and be a kit and cop. Right, eighty 1925 01:39:32.199 --> 01:39:34.640 one percent of the cops and can but born and 1926 01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:35.039 raised it. 1927 01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:39.000 The thing is, though, is like what if somebody says 1928 01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:44.199 something that's obviously patently dishonest, as they're saying like Buchanics 1929 01:39:44.199 --> 01:39:46.840 saying I was intimidated by turtle Boy or these idiots 1930 01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:52.680 like I will not use oxygen to form a sentence 1931 01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:56.800 to refute that, because on its face it's so absurd 1932 01:39:57.199 --> 01:40:00.760 and ridiculous that it's not even worth of course they're 1933 01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:03.960 not of course they're not intimidated, so of course, uh, 1934 01:40:04.039 --> 01:40:07.640 social these people are not afraid of social media content creators. 1935 01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:10.239 But they have to build a case on which you 1936 01:40:10.319 --> 01:40:13.399 have a moron like Cosgrove and Mellow that can then 1937 01:40:13.479 --> 01:40:16.760 take that to court and pretend that these people are 1938 01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:22.199 are are moved by me or Brian or Mike or 1939 01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:26.000 you know, turtle Boy, and they're not. They just feel 1940 01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:29.079 bad because there they their wit is not acerbic enough 1941 01:40:29.119 --> 01:40:32.000 to to actually match wits with any of us, uh, 1942 01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:37.399 and certainly not turtle Boy. So so anyway, yeah, exactly, 1943 01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:40.039 I don't want to waste my energy on these morons. 1944 01:40:41.880 --> 01:40:43.800 They are try you know, he tracked on people with 1945 01:40:43.960 --> 01:40:48.359 God damn ducks, are you kidding me? We what are 1946 01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:50.399 you doing? What do you why are you spending the 1947 01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:52.479 resources of that? You want to know why? 1948 01:40:52.800 --> 01:40:56.079 You know the answer to that question is rhetorical, right. 1949 01:40:56.560 --> 01:40:59.399 So Alena Raffie claims that you know we're spending a 1950 01:40:59.399 --> 01:41:03.039 lot of our res by doing fo your requests. Girl, 1951 01:41:03.399 --> 01:41:05.800 you just spent all that time chasing down ducks. 1952 01:41:07.079 --> 01:41:11.239 Right, yeah, come on, man, Yeah, she's dishonest, and she 1953 01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:14.279 just shows it, just like BEV shows that she's dishonest, 1954 01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:17.359 and Hank goes that she's dishonest, and the Albert family 1955 01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:21.079 goes that they're dishonest, and the MSP police officers that 1956 01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:24.119 sit in that building with him show that they're dishonest 1957 01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:27.319 and they make campaign contributions, and the Canton p D 1958 01:41:27.439 --> 01:41:30.000 officer shows that none of them are like Peter Murphy. 1959 01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:32.960 So somehow that apple fell so far away from the tree. 1960 01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:37.920 It's in a different county. So yeah, it's a very 1961 01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:41.199 very sad state of affairs. But what I want to 1962 01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:43.960 circle back, because we're basically out of time at this point, 1963 01:41:43.960 --> 01:41:46.239 but I want to circle back to how beautiful it 1964 01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:49.760 is what you talked about earlier, about all of. 1965 01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:51.399 These people that gather. 1966 01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:55.680 And go to these standouts like Dennis and Scott and 1967 01:41:55.720 --> 01:41:58.840 the lady that's sitting just above your left shoulder and 1968 01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:03.880 all of her compatriot It's like Boston Brandy who's in there, 1969 01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:07.720 brings her her daughters and so forth out there, and 1970 01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:12.760 I will I am just waiting to make sure that 1971 01:42:12.960 --> 01:42:15.960 Elon doesn't snatch my job from me, and then I'll 1972 01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:19.000 book another ticket out there just to come and stand 1973 01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:21.479 out and have dinner and maybe go over to Dean 1974 01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:22.479 and walk around. 1975 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:28.439 Well, I hope the best way in that situation with Elon. Yeah, 1976 01:42:28.479 --> 01:42:30.199 I heard. I heard he's stepping back a little bit 1977 01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:32.920 from what I read today, stepping back, yeah, from the 1978 01:42:32.920 --> 01:42:35.359 White House a little bit. Yeah, I prayfully. 1979 01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:39.560 Nothing May he's gonna he's gonna resign whatever the doge 1980 01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:41.800 position is. So yeah, we might be in in. 1981 01:42:42.199 --> 01:42:43.439 Good shape here shortly. 1982 01:42:43.720 --> 01:42:48.159 And I just didn't want to frivolously spend money when 1983 01:42:48.319 --> 01:42:51.079 we were all kind of freaking out over here about 1984 01:42:51.079 --> 01:42:53.319 what was gonna do. And that's what Dennis is saying 1985 01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:56.560 right here. So yeah, So I expect you guys. I 1986 01:42:56.600 --> 01:43:00.520 expect to see you guys relatively soon, hopefull before my 1987 01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:01.279 knee surgery. 1988 01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:04.119 So yeah, are you getting replacement? 1989 01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:07.479 I'm getting a partial replacement on the left. I'm gonna 1990 01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:09.920 go get briefed up by the doctor this week and 1991 01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:12.560 it would be in May, so perhaps I should come 1992 01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:16.319 before May. Yeah, first, I don't know. 1993 01:43:16.439 --> 01:43:19.520 We'll see. Well. I would love to speech in person, 1994 01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:21.319 you know that, So anytime good? 1995 01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:26.199 Yeah, oh, goss accent be fun, I said, good bite 1996 01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:27.319 to bosting. 1997 01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:34.800 Mike. I'm actually not irish. I'm finished you are. 1998 01:43:35.479 --> 01:43:37.680 Oh shoot, can you do a finish accent? 1999 01:43:37.720 --> 01:43:41.159 I don't know, no, no, no, but my middle name 2000 01:43:41.239 --> 01:43:42.920 is my middle label thrower all the way by my 2001 01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:45.960 middle initial be with E and uh there's no one 2002 01:43:46.039 --> 01:43:48.279 here that would guess my middle my middle LAMB. But yeah, 2003 01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:53.800 I'm probably not. Probably it's finished. It's different. I will 2004 01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:56.119 tell you though this. I I'm really proud of this. 2005 01:43:56.199 --> 01:43:59.720 But we did before I started covering Karen Reid, and 2006 01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:04.520 it very long before. I did a Scandinavian UFO roundtable 2007 01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:13.239 and I had Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, and Iceland. Five 2008 01:44:14.319 --> 01:44:17.600 We had one person that was part of the UFO 2009 01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:20.479 community in each one, and it was it was really cool. 2010 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:23.640 Really No. Finland was just named the number one country 2011 01:44:23.640 --> 01:44:25.239 to live in the world. Uh. 2012 01:44:25.359 --> 01:44:28.600 Their standard living you know, I mean amount of vacation time. 2013 01:44:29.199 --> 01:44:30.800 See what I'm saying, Like I'm an example of that, 2014 01:44:31.239 --> 01:44:34.680 you know, just seeing that that's just how I roll. 2015 01:44:34.880 --> 01:44:38.000 This is my DNA. The thing you are. 2016 01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:41.800 You are absolutely delightful to have on Mike. Uh, and 2017 01:44:42.319 --> 01:44:46.399 I'd like it if you would kind of just pump 2018 01:44:46.439 --> 01:44:48.800 the stuff that you're doing with Tom and just take 2019 01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:53.000 an opportunity to to to uh promote yourself and and 2020 01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:54.319 all the things that you're doing. 2021 01:44:55.800 --> 01:44:59.039 Well, that's a great question, Tom, Tom, is you want 2022 01:44:59.039 --> 01:45:01.039 to have a boot in the ground, right, He's been 2023 01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:09.039 there from He's turnaboy, Karen, Uh justin rue, he goes to, 2024 01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:11.600 he goes to everything. I couldn't ask for a better partner, 2025 01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:15.199 you know, Santray, Purge, post standouts, Uh, Enrique stuff. It's 2026 01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:17.079 much another story we could get into later. 2027 01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:17.600 Uh. 2028 01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:21.399 I just I feel like yesterday was a big step 2029 01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:26.199 for him. I'm trying to get him a press pass, 2030 01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:29.640 actually fill the application last night. He could become a 2031 01:45:29.680 --> 01:45:33.479 citizen journalist through the mass webs well, through the site. 2032 01:45:33.720 --> 01:45:36.079 We did the patwork last night. I might know somebody 2033 01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:38.520 that knows somebody to knows somebody to know somebody might 2034 01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:41.079 might help him out a little bit, and hopefully he 2035 01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:44.520 can get that because he memorializes so many different things 2036 01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:47.439 that the mainstream media does not see where it's boosing 2037 01:45:47.479 --> 01:45:50.760 the ground. Karen walking in a hot mic moment, there 2038 01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:52.840 was a moment where mister Reid talked about a two 2039 01:45:52.880 --> 01:45:56.079 party state Republican Democrat would be be purple. It was 2040 01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:58.359 a big statement. You know, it took us time to 2041 01:45:58.359 --> 01:46:00.600 see it. To the mainstream media, Tom gone at all. 2042 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:03.720 The mainstream media dumped it. Tom has it, you know 2043 01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:06.720 things like that that we can memorialize. Yes, he said 2044 01:46:06.720 --> 01:46:09.279 that He's right on the money. You know. That's so 2045 01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:10.720 there's different things that Tom can do. 2046 01:46:11.279 --> 01:46:11.479 Uh. 2047 01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:15.760 Being thrown out of the courtroom by Hartman was was 2048 01:46:15.840 --> 01:46:17.479 one of the biggest mistakes they could have. The way 2049 01:46:17.479 --> 01:46:19.880 they treated him, the way he was pointing, just get 2050 01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:22.000 out of here, that was that was horrible. And then 2051 01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:26.159 you had the other TV Michael and Service Justice get 2052 01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:28.960 the way he was treated with Scot Mcguinnis just shows 2053 01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:32.239 you how ignorant we can be it sometimes as humans 2054 01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:37.680 and not understanding uh feelings and you know, morale and 2055 01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:40.159 you know what I'm going through today. Maybe my mister 2056 01:46:40.159 --> 01:46:42.119 Harpton had a bad day of that day. I don't 2057 01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:44.199 I don't know. But when they put those words in 2058 01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:48.399 they can use uh on a not as salt, but uh, 2059 01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:51.720 you know, tactical maneuvers to take people away. They were 2060 01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:56.439 walking around with zip ties, they were ready to go. 2061 01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:59.560 They wanted somebody to They wanted somebody to do, so 2062 01:46:59.600 --> 01:47:03.720 they would, you know, show the people they are bad 2063 01:47:03.840 --> 01:47:06.000 apples in here. Not one person out of wrestlers, not 2064 01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:09.720 one person was actually out of line. We asked questions 2065 01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:12.079 and they won't give us answers. We tried calling what 2066 01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.039 what exactly came? We cannot do. No one wanted to 2067 01:47:14.079 --> 01:47:16.119 talk to us. So it's like a free for all 2068 01:47:16.159 --> 01:47:18.199 out there a little bit. But we have people like 2069 01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:21.680 dentist and you know, Peter Murphy and his wife. No, 2070 01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:24.079 we're gonna stand back here, guys. You know, turnaboy walked 2071 01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:26.479 all the way down and talked with us before he 2072 01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:28.720 got in with his press pass. So I would like 2073 01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:31.560 to get Tom a press pass because he has he 2074 01:47:31.640 --> 01:47:35.439 has a content creator. He sold his footage to a 2075 01:47:35.479 --> 01:47:38.520 production company. That camera was just in that iDTV. He 2076 01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:41.159 sold eighteen minutes of what he had to them. They 2077 01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:43.319 went through his stuff and because stuff they couldn't get, 2078 01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:46.920 like you know in the crowds, different comments at lunch. 2079 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:52.479 So Tom brings the whole another angle of a viewership 2080 01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:55.479 of like sitting in a coffee shop, but you've got 2081 01:47:55.760 --> 01:47:57.680 FKR people talking to him next to him, that be 2082 01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:00.359 might be there or or ed he might walked in 2083 01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:03.000 one of these days, or who knows, and they will 2084 01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:06.840 talk to Tom and Eddie Jackson, Eliza and Karen and Nathan. 2085 01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:10.640 You know you've seen him talk mister Reid walking missus 2086 01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:12.800 Reid up the stairs because he's got a bad ankle 2087 01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:16.880 or whatever. Those are things Tom can do for us, 2088 01:48:17.159 --> 01:48:20.399 which he deserves the right and the access to those people, 2089 01:48:20.680 --> 01:48:23.640 to those proceedings. Even if Tom wanted to go up 2090 01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:26.199 and ask a question about something he gets, they look 2091 01:48:26.239 --> 01:48:28.439 at him like he's a different person. They don't treat 2092 01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:30.680 him the right way he should be treated. I feel 2093 01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:32.720 bad about that, and I want to help him get 2094 01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:35.000 that press pass because I think that I mean a 2095 01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.000 lot to him and be like, you know what, I 2096 01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:39.239 can go and I want I can memorialize all this. 2097 01:48:39.520 --> 01:48:41.960 I haven't. He's always looking over his shoulder, he gets 2098 01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:44.880 getting pushed down, he's getting assaulted, he's you know, these 2099 01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:47.439 little things that happened to him. I'm like, dude, what 2100 01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:49.720 is up with you? And you just you attracted? What's 2101 01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:52.119 going on with that stuff? You know? So that's one 2102 01:48:52.159 --> 01:48:55.479 thing I'm working on. And obviously I'm still putting dots 2103 01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:59.840 together with these motions, and you know, Bordiers and the 2104 01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.079 Witnessless is mind blowing if you go through it. Who 2105 01:49:03.079 --> 01:49:05.239 they're calling? Who there? And it's take it like a puzzle, right, 2106 01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:06.920 and you just look at it and go, Okay, why 2107 01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:08.600 wouldn't they want to call this person? What's going to 2108 01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:10.600 happen on direct on this person? How are they going 2109 01:49:10.640 --> 01:49:12.880 to handle this kind of person? So those are things 2110 01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:15.640 I think about. I got two dogs, those are the 2111 01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:16.439 things I think about. 2112 01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:20.479 Yeah, that's what you talk about my life right there? 2113 01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:26.399 Man? Right? And the family that I married into if 2114 01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:28.439 they live in Campon as well, so they're right down 2115 01:49:28.479 --> 01:49:31.119 the road. So I interacted with them quite they're all 2116 01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:34.279 voting for Harrington, but they want change this sick of it. 2117 01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:36.880 They know what's going on. But you know what, the 2118 01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:40.239 they were the type of people they just lived their lives, 2119 01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:42.720 did their things, paid their bills and just moved on. 2120 01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:45.079 They didn't care about the politics and was going until 2121 01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:48.319 someone died, right, And they knew that I'm the son 2122 01:49:48.359 --> 01:49:50.359 in law and I was friends with them and I'm 2123 01:49:50.359 --> 01:49:54.760 bringing up a Thanksgiving and they're like, yeah, we kind 2124 01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:56.239 of do that the whole time that the place was 2125 01:49:56.279 --> 01:49:58.239 like this. But we really talk about it. Then I 2126 01:49:58.279 --> 01:50:00.960 started bringing them into it and they're like Jesus Christ. 2127 01:50:01.079 --> 01:50:02.760 I just sent my father in law of the report 2128 01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:05.840 for the audience. His mind was blown. It's just he's 2129 01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:08.560 like blown away. He's been here for thirty years, I 2130 01:50:08.600 --> 01:50:11.159 said on the auditor board. He texted me back with 2131 01:50:11.239 --> 01:50:15.760 these questions and I'm like, yes, yes, you know, like yeah, 2132 01:50:17.079 --> 01:50:20.000 well there you go. So uh hey Sports Center tomorrow morning, 2133 01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:23.479 nine o'clock for La Fereo. We're gonna need to help 2134 01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:26.199 you out of the press pass even like like b 2135 01:50:26.479 --> 01:50:28.760 you could be like a journalist. Believe it or not. 2136 01:50:29.039 --> 01:50:32.079 You're there every day, you remember, moralizing all these things 2137 01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:34.640 that are happening. Right, you can apply for this stuff. 2138 01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:36.520 People don't unaware of that. You know. You can apply 2139 01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:40.159 for journalist the journalism press pass, and you can go 2140 01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:42.720 into the Federal building. You can go anywhere. You get 2141 01:50:42.720 --> 01:50:44.680 that press pass. She can't. 2142 01:50:44.720 --> 01:50:47.920 She's Boston bea uh and you can order your Boston 2143 01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:52.000 BEA or or my case, the Boston I'm Boston be 2144 01:50:52.079 --> 01:50:55.680 a Fan shirt uh in apparently black and pink. So 2145 01:50:55.800 --> 01:50:57.199 we'll we'll make those available. 2146 01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:03.520 Uh make you thanks Nicole RM, she gifted audience. 2147 01:51:03.199 --> 01:51:07.000 Yeah, what I'm gonna do now, I want to send everybody, 2148 01:51:07.319 --> 01:51:10.199 so right, there's the link to go visit Jimmy. Jimmy 2149 01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:13.039 is on is Live, so you can go and see 2150 01:51:13.079 --> 01:51:15.439 Auntie dev There's a link there. I want to send 2151 01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:17.359 you over to my boy Jimmy. 2152 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:19.800 He is, he is. I'm trying to coach him and 2153 01:51:20.119 --> 01:51:21.760 coach him. I'm trying to talk to him in doing 2154 01:51:21.800 --> 01:51:22.119 a stand. 2155 01:51:22.199 --> 01:51:24.520 Are you trying to coach him in basketball? Because I 2156 01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:25.680 feel like his career. 2157 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:31.800 He he hates sports. He hates sports, he told me, 2158 01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:34.239 because I can't stand it, I'd rather talk about something else. 2159 01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:36.640 I'm like, okay. We had a great show, though, I mean, 2160 01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:40.239 I couldn't stop. I was. He let me fly and 2161 01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:42.239 I let him fly, and we would say some weird 2162 01:51:42.279 --> 01:51:45.159 ship and it was funny. It was good stuff. If 2163 01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:48.039 you get interviewed by him, be prepared. I saw the 2164 01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:50.760 Nick Rocco interview. I couldn't believe what was coming on 2165 01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:52.159 next month. I'm just gonna say that right now. I 2166 01:51:52.239 --> 01:51:56.319 just I was, you're a good guy, man, you know what. 2167 01:51:56.800 --> 01:51:58.600 You know what I'm talking about. 2168 01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:00.640 I actually didn't. 2169 01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:03.880 Catch that one yet. 2170 01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:07.359 I haven't seen it, but he had he's he's beefing 2171 01:52:07.520 --> 01:52:10.479 with our friend named Gallagher. I'm trying to get him 2172 01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:12.640 to call me and tell me what his beef is 2173 01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:20.800 because it escapes my intellect. No, I'm not Nick Nick 2174 01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:24.800 Nick Nick. Yes, So I'm trying to figure out what 2175 01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:27.199 his beef is with the amazing Nan Gallagher, but he 2176 01:52:27.239 --> 01:52:29.560 has not yet taken me up on the phone call 2177 01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:33.720 to tell me. So before we get out of here, 2178 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:37.199 let me say, I'm sorry. Go ahead, what did you say, 2179 01:52:37.239 --> 01:52:46.399 Mike ipotos I said, I said six, not sex. M hmm, okay. 2180 01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:52.199 Thank you once again, Nan Gallagher. You're just incredibly kind, 2181 01:52:52.680 --> 01:52:55.520 as is my friend. Please pass the pepper who just 2182 01:52:55.840 --> 01:53:00.720 got her American flag Chuck Taylor Converse that I sent 2183 01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:03.079 in the mail when she won the contest for the 2184 01:53:03.159 --> 01:53:05.840 I think that was the Turtle Boy, the Turtle Boy 2185 01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:06.640 fundraiser we did. 2186 01:53:06.720 --> 01:53:06.960 Yep. 2187 01:53:07.359 --> 01:53:10.880 So thank you, Pepa, and thank you for f K. Yeah, 2188 01:53:11.319 --> 01:53:14.640 yeah for FKR. And I want to thank a new member, 2189 01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:18.680 Nicole r M for gifting five calling all Beings memberships. 2190 01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:22.000 Now I must stay delighting me sees the lighting. You 2191 01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:24.960 for all all of you right there. Thank you so 2192 01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:28.920 very much, Boston, Mike. I feel like, really, there's a 2193 01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:31.520 lot about you. I know that, a lot about you 2194 01:53:31.560 --> 01:53:34.880 that we still want to know and hear. And we 2195 01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:37.760 went two hours, so that means we can have you 2196 01:53:37.800 --> 01:53:40.359 back again so we can hit more of it. 2197 01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:45.319 Okay, br I'm I'm all in. Man, had a good time. 2198 01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:48.840 You guys are awesome manks for having me. Yeah, I'm 2199 01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:51.960 gonna bounce out of here. I'm wait way past my bedtime, 2200 01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:54.600 by the way. All right, what I'm talking about, Dennison, 2201 01:53:54.640 --> 01:53:56.119 he knows what I'm talking about. You put in the 2202 01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:59.520 comment earlier that it's pasted your bedtime, Mike, he knows. 2203 01:54:00.439 --> 01:54:02.600 You gotta listen to your body when you get older. 2204 01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:05.039 What if your body told you to do with this age, 2205 01:54:05.239 --> 01:54:05.800 you do it. 2206 01:54:06.199 --> 01:54:12.720 She's gotta do it, all right, you guys, Mike, Yes. 2207 01:54:13.760 --> 01:54:17.239 I might say some witch. I got a show in 2208 01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:19.239 the morning. You gotta show in the morning at nine 2209 01:54:19.239 --> 01:54:33.720 o'clock with my Tommy Cpu, Tom Cpu seeking justice. Wow, 2210 01:54:34.239 --> 01:54:36.359 give it up for my man right there? 2211 01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:42.560 Yeah, Boston, Mike, what a great guy he and his 2212 01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:43.640 buddy Tom Cpu. 2213 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:44.680 Great show. 2214 01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:48.359 Go support and thank you what was this sham? Wow? 2215 01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:51.880 Thank you so much. Nana is she she really is 2216 01:54:51.920 --> 01:54:56.439 an angel? I know, Thank you Stacey. Q Uh, it 2217 01:54:56.520 --> 01:54:57.399 was so much fun. 2218 01:54:58.199 --> 01:54:58.319 Uh. 2219 01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:01.680 Mike is awesome and really be I don't think we 2220 01:55:01.800 --> 01:55:07.439 really scratch the surface of everything the time we do, 2221 01:55:07.520 --> 01:55:11.039 because I know I talked to him and all the 2222 01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:13.479 connections that he was making kind of blew my mind. 2223 01:55:13.760 --> 01:55:19.760 So bedtime, goodnight, Branda, good night lovely, thank you so 2224 01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:23.640 much love, goodnight Anna. We got you back out here 2225 01:55:23.680 --> 01:55:27.680 at Holmes And yes, Mike will ride in the cab again. 2226 01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:30.880 One love to him. Thank you, Scott McGinnis, the legend. 2227 01:55:31.159 --> 01:55:33.000 We need to get you back on this joint too, 2228 01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:38.279 get like another another Legends round table. Yeah, and you 2229 01:55:38.359 --> 01:55:41.279 guys go hang out with Auntie deb I see ducks. 2230 01:55:43.760 --> 01:55:47.640 All right, everybody, any final thoughts Boston be other than 2231 01:55:48.319 --> 01:55:48.920 the debut of. 2232 01:55:48.920 --> 01:55:50.600 Your shirts and your your books. 2233 01:55:52.279 --> 01:55:53.279 What your Boston? 2234 01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:55.319 It's so cool man. 2235 01:55:55.600 --> 01:55:57.880 We'll show it on screen next time. All right. 2236 01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:00.640 Well, I gotta get them back, so yes, I want 2237 01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:03.039 to get a Monday. But anyways, No, I think Mike 2238 01:56:03.159 --> 01:56:06.359 was awesome to talk to. He definitely is. 2239 01:56:07.239 --> 01:56:09.840 He brings a different perspective because he knew John, so 2240 01:56:10.560 --> 01:56:12.720 I thought that was really cool to hear, you know, 2241 01:56:12.840 --> 01:56:16.680 the personal stories, so that's something we haven't really had before. 2242 01:56:16.880 --> 01:56:20.079 So yeah, I appreciated everything he said and he's just 2243 01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:25.560 a real good, great guy. So thank you for thank 2244 01:56:25.640 --> 01:56:26.479 you for a great time. 2245 01:56:27.279 --> 01:56:29.840 Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad we invited him on. After 2246 01:56:29.920 --> 01:56:32.439 speaking with him, I was just like, oh my, I 2247 01:56:32.520 --> 01:56:35.479 wanted to show to be like the next day. Thanks DJ, 2248 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:38.239 and let's do some UFOs. We are going to do 2249 01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:41.039 UFOs by the way, So I'll tell you who we're 2250 01:56:41.079 --> 01:56:44.479 working on real quick. This gentleman was on you'll see 2251 01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:48.680 him on YouTube as Uncharted X and he was on 2252 01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:53.239 with Rosscoltart on News Nation. It is a bang up, 2253 01:56:53.600 --> 01:57:01.479 fantastic interview about ancient structures and mind blowing stuff. It's 2254 01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:05.640 that has some UFO implications to it. I'll put you know, 2255 01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:08.760 think about how the Pyramids were making. So Ben van 2256 01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:12.039 Kirkwick Uncharted X and what we're gonna probably do is 2257 01:57:12.239 --> 01:57:14.560 we're gonna do the original Cab crew, but we're gonna 2258 01:57:14.560 --> 01:57:17.199 bring in bea for to make five of us to 2259 01:57:17.319 --> 01:57:21.039 interview Ben van Kirkwick. So right now I'm trying to 2260 01:57:21.079 --> 01:57:24.760 get a hold of him. So all I can say is, 2261 01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:27.399 thank you everybody. We love you so much. You guys 2262 01:57:27.439 --> 01:57:28.920 are so kind, so generous. 2263 01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:33.520 Debbie Blair, No, you are, Debbie Blair. 2264 01:57:34.479 --> 01:57:38.640 Uh, and I look forward to hopefully seeing you guys 2265 01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:43.039 in Massachusetts soon and we'll be doing the damn thing 2266 01:57:43.159 --> 01:57:49.760 on Sunday morning, eleven am with Mark Bedrow and Brother 2267 01:57:49.880 --> 01:57:56.239 Counsel eleven am Eastern Time, Mark Bedrow, Brother Counsel, and 2268 01:57:56.399 --> 01:57:59.920 two miles of gum be zipped up letting these brothers 2269 01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:02.359 unless they need a table set, then we're gonna set 2270 01:58:02.399 --> 01:58:03.439 the table right bea. 2271 01:58:03.880 --> 01:58:06.640 Yes, And Lisa Orcs, who's a member, says, thank you, 2272 01:58:06.760 --> 01:58:09.880 DJ and B When I when am I coming? 2273 01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:13.680 When am I coming on the show? Haha, Well you 2274 01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:17.600 can that's yeah, Yes, I was gonna mention. 2275 01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:18.399 Yeah. 2276 01:58:18.520 --> 01:58:20.800 So everybody out there, if you would like to be 2277 01:58:21.039 --> 01:58:24.760 on a listener round table on Calling All Beings, please 2278 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:29.119 uh send me a message at Calling All Beings the 2279 01:58:29.239 --> 01:58:33.600 number one at Gmail and let me know that you 2280 01:58:33.640 --> 01:58:35.119 want to be on, because we've been trying. 2281 01:58:34.960 --> 01:58:37.520 To do one, but people got some stage fright. We 2282 01:58:37.600 --> 01:58:38.840 want to bring you on there with us. 2283 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:40.960 And you know how I'd like to let everybody know 2284 01:58:41.119 --> 01:58:42.239 this is literally like a. 2285 01:58:44.199 --> 01:58:47.039 Huh no that I'm setting for the whole thing. 2286 01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:49.720 No, I know, this is just feels like a zoom 2287 01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:52.720 call so or a FaceTime like you don't really know 2288 01:58:52.880 --> 01:58:55.119 that people are really watching you. You see the chat, 2289 01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:57.079 but you know what, we're just here having a good time. 2290 01:58:57.199 --> 01:58:57.800 So it's fun. 2291 01:58:59.199 --> 01:58:59.399 Yeah. 2292 01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:01.399 So and and that's why we would like to get 2293 01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:04.199 you on and cover the topics that that could be UFOs. 2294 01:59:04.239 --> 01:59:05.960 I mean, it could be whatever you want to talk about. 2295 01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:09.399 Your panelists will have to react to it. So on 2296 01:59:09.560 --> 01:59:12.159 behalf of the Uh. This is DJ saying peace out, 2297 01:59:12.640 --> 01:59:16.000 one love and we'll see you down the road. 2298 01:59:17.199 --> 01:59:17.479 Bye. 2299 01:59:17.960 --> 01:59:18.279 Peace