Speaker 1: And did somebody give in and man in this joint
Speaker 1: for calling all beings. I got my homie right here.
Speaker 1: What your name is, Bostina and I'm DJ. Let's let's
Speaker 1: break it down. We got the homegirls that are in
Speaker 1: the chat. Let me see who we got up in
Speaker 1: this joint right here?
Speaker 2: We got uh, well, Boston be is here, Miss Jessica
Speaker 2: and Beezy Julie. We got Mike and oh.
Speaker 3: I love it. It's con me. I love that one.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get down with a part of people.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about this gentleman right here. He's part of
Speaker 2: the Tom CPU show. As you can see. Yah, everybody
Speaker 2: know that he's on in the mornings with Tom Cpu.
Speaker 2: He is a resident of the city of Canton. And
Speaker 2: the more dialogue that you have with Mike, and particularly
Speaker 2: if you have like a personal phone conversation dialogue with Mike,
Speaker 2: you will realize how brilliant that he is and how
Speaker 2: many of the dots that he has connected with regard
Speaker 2: to people that are not only central figures in this case,
Speaker 2: but tangential figures to those primary figures in the case.
Speaker 2: And so I was out jogging one day and he
Speaker 2: was kind of telling me about some of these and
Speaker 2: just blew me away. So I was like, I think
Speaker 2: we had already booked him at that point, so it
Speaker 2: was it wasn't material. We were still going to have
Speaker 2: him on, but I was just like, Wow, he really
Speaker 2: really understands the players in this case and is just
Speaker 2: a great analyst and is a credit to the CPU show.
Speaker 2: So without further a dizzle part of people put it
Speaker 2: damn peanut hands together for my.
Speaker 4: Man, busted money.
Speaker 3: Somebody for his brother. Yeh man, I'll give it you. Yes,
Speaker 3: it seems like we've had this book for like a month,
Speaker 3: but it's only been a week. We've been talking for
Speaker 3: a month. Yeah, we've been talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then our friend Jimmy booked you on his
Speaker 2: show what's it called Anti the Anti deb Show, and
Speaker 2: we wanted to make sure that we didn't have you
Speaker 2: on in advance of him because we love Anti Deb
Speaker 2: so uh and we don't want to play any of
Speaker 2: that content creator both if you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, I know, I know. Yeah, it's all about the love, man,
Speaker 3: Love give the love. I don't really I don't have
Speaker 3: any room for hate in my heart. Man. I was
Speaker 3: you know when I was judge. Well, she's a little
Speaker 3: soft spot for me, but I actually feel bad for
Speaker 3: you know, I don't like hate her, but she's got
Speaker 3: to be in a situation where you're just like, how
Speaker 3: can you do that? What is what do they have
Speaker 3: on you? Or what are you thinking? Because the thought
Speaker 3: process to me is just out of the loop, just
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. And I'm not the only one. Obviously,
Speaker 3: there's professional lawyers el E's, Leo's, you know, retired judges
Speaker 3: that to be a court TV that Justice Serves show
Speaker 3: with Baden and the other lady they have Baden and
Speaker 3: I forget the other one that Michael. But anyways, everybody's
Speaker 3: weighing in on some of these decisions that she has,
Speaker 3: and it validates kind of the way we all think,
Speaker 3: like from last year, Like the more eyes that are
Speaker 3: on that from last year came forward. I just think that, uh,
Speaker 3: she's really under a microscope. I don't realize that she
Speaker 3: realizes how much of a microscope she might be under.
Speaker 2: Can we ask you to We're gonna ask We're gonna
Speaker 2: have the attorneys on on Sunday and we're gonna ask
Speaker 2: them about remedies that the Karen Reid team may have
Speaker 2: based on these some of these rulings. But if I
Speaker 2: would ask you to step into her mind, and I
Speaker 2: want you to pretend that your judge Bev and you're
Speaker 2: sitting in your living room, and you know, as Melanie says,
Speaker 2: she's probably having some sort of a white claw, you know,
Speaker 2: or some sort of a glass.
Speaker 3: Of Chevalley or something.
Speaker 2: What do you think that she's thinking about herself and
Speaker 2: this situation. What do you think is going through her mind?
Speaker 3: I don't think she looks at social media. I know
Speaker 3: that I know that she looks out that window when
Speaker 3: she's on the bench a lot to see if last
Speaker 3: year after there was crowds out there. That that I
Speaker 3: think offends her a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: She's a narcissist. She wants complete control of everything, and
Speaker 3: she's trying to figure out a way to win this
Speaker 3: case and all costs under the legal umbrella that she
Speaker 3: holds and where you know, where she's appointed. I would
Speaker 3: have an attitude like, well, I really don't have any
Speaker 3: accountability to anybody except by governance counsel, and they're not
Speaker 3: gonna ever gonna throw me off, So I'm gonna ride
Speaker 3: the next five or six years out, do what I
Speaker 3: get to do, help these people out. I'm a hack.
Speaker 3: She's you know, where's my white law? Who's my husband?
Speaker 3: I get my beach house. You know, I just go
Speaker 3: from there. I don't see any other reason if you
Speaker 3: look at any other court, or even the one next
Speaker 3: to her, where they can just stand up and object
Speaker 3: and either sustained right there or not. And we're going
Speaker 3: to the sidebar every single time, and it's just a
Speaker 3: it's just a war. And then not give her the headphones.
Speaker 3: Now she's got an US, right she yeah, she loves
Speaker 3: us falling. Not absolutely, she's got MS to get up
Speaker 3: out of a chair to walk to the sidebar, but
Speaker 3: maybe five times a day, six times, seven times a
Speaker 3: day on a you know that wears on you. You know,
Speaker 3: give her the headset. They gave her a brand new TV.
Speaker 3: The TV got approved, which is I think you should
Speaker 3: leave one up on one side and what up on
Speaker 3: the other side because you don't have Paul o'keith looking
Speaker 3: like twisting his neck. You know, obviously we took care
Speaker 3: of that. But to give someone that has a handicap
Speaker 3: uh issue, that makes no sense to give me your
Speaker 3: hair and adeus makes those we give people interpreters every
Speaker 3: day in these courtrooms, and we can't give Karen. And
Speaker 3: that's what baffles me.
Speaker 5: What is this?
Speaker 3: Where is this thought process coming from? Like the other
Speaker 3: I can't judge we actually make a situation like that
Speaker 3: and some of the denials and the motions and the
Speaker 3: vois And I'm just like, I should be a law
Speaker 3: student because I've taken three years a law in the
Speaker 3: last three years. I kind of know what I kind
Speaker 3: of know what's going on, but I kind of don't
Speaker 3: know what's going on. I need validation from a real
Speaker 3: lawyer sometimes, but we.
Speaker 2: Just happened to have one right here. This is the
Speaker 2: official attorney of calling all beings, retired Massachusetts attorney Valhalla
Speaker 2: Law who you can and you can address as val
Speaker 2: So she will keep us in line and she will
Speaker 2: let us know what's legal, what's not legal? Uh what's
Speaker 2: what's remedial, what isn't uh? So, But let me ask
Speaker 2: you another question, because.
Speaker 3: Your first question, what am I thinking? What is she?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: What are you thinking?
Speaker 3: I'm judge, I'm actually in character right now. One of
Speaker 3: my things I might be still character. Okay, I'm a
Speaker 3: method actor. I'm like, you know, I won't come out
Speaker 3: of character un till tomorrow morning. Probably. Now all right,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, how drunk do I need to
Speaker 3: get to fall asleep tonight?
Speaker 6: Is that it can I that's really the because I
Speaker 6: can't get over if anybody.
Speaker 3: With the same mind, which you know she does. This
Speaker 3: is calculated, it's talked about, it's planned. She's not alone
Speaker 3: in planning of this. She's bright, but she's not that bright.
Speaker 3: Someone else helping her with these decisions. And why she
Speaker 3: can't deny these what legal standing she might have to
Speaker 3: deny these because she's going to get challenged. I mean
Speaker 3: to not let the welchin on the FBI expert. I
Speaker 3: do understand because he's FBI. When I state police, they
Speaker 3: have different ways of protocols. I understand all that, But
Speaker 3: come on, really.
Speaker 2: But all those FBI most of them were police prior
Speaker 2: most of them came in. I mean, I had a
Speaker 2: friend who was Cocoa Beach police and then next thing
Speaker 2: you know, he's on the FBI.
Speaker 3: So you get till thirty seven years old to get on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can be a cop. Yeah, So it's a good
Speaker 3: way to go if you get a good force and
Speaker 3: you write the book the right way. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've been paying attention to the audit, but the
Speaker 3: complaints that have been coming out of there, the anonymous
Speaker 3: complaints about the police officers of indinistering. That's the story
Speaker 3: for another night. We can spend all night on that
Speaker 3: if you want to. But anyways, you're the I'm the guests.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Well, I mean those are things you know,
Speaker 2: we I certainly want to open up the floor that
Speaker 2: you both can can touch on that, but I think
Speaker 2: they'll We're going to hit the lawyers up pretty hard
Speaker 2: with that on Sunday because I want to know what
Speaker 2: types of scenarios could play out after by the fact
Speaker 2: that she's denied. Because I've said all along, I've said
Speaker 2: this to you, I've said this to BA. They are
Speaker 2: not They're not trying. They're not going for a conviction
Speaker 2: on Karen Reid. They know that they're not going to
Speaker 2: get that because they know they don't have the evidence.
Speaker 2: All they have to do is play for the tie.
Speaker 3: Basically, they.
Speaker 2: I believe that Hank Brennan was hired to get another
Speaker 2: hung jury so they could keep her in legal jeopardy.
Speaker 2: And they may not even announce their intention after this
Speaker 2: hung jury in my opinion, so this you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: So then that comes to the question of what types
Speaker 2: of remedies does Karen have. For example, you can't appeal
Speaker 2: a hung jury after a hung jury. So the only
Speaker 2: way that she could make some sort of an appeal
Speaker 2: is if they say we're gonna we're gonna go again.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try her again, right right, So what if
Speaker 2: they say, well, you know what, we'll we'll come to it.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll wait ninety days before they announce.
Speaker 3: That's just I you know, it's an interesting concept. I mean,
Speaker 3: a third time strike. I mean you've heard the jury
Speaker 3: trial for it, like the guy from Boston Jury of
Speaker 3: four or whatever. I took it edible, my god. Yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 3: they tried this guy four times and on the fourth
Speaker 3: third time, or they convicted him all the fourth time
Speaker 3: and it got overturned because it just took too many
Speaker 3: shots at him and it wasn't him. It's it happened
Speaker 3: in Boston. That fit the actual Netflix documentary, but it
Speaker 3: was it was great. Yes, yes, but I'm naming the
Speaker 3: Netflix movie. I'm just blanking out right now.
Speaker 2: It's called aft over a big time in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, well there was a Boston cop that
Speaker 3: was shot in his car. Sean Ellis used to just
Speaker 3: happen to be getting diapers at the same time, so
Speaker 3: the timeline fit, and they didn't built the narrative around that. Basically,
Speaker 3: it was really hard to prove it took him three
Speaker 3: times to get him. I don't see him going for
Speaker 3: a third time. I agree with you, DJ, And then
Speaker 3: they can just say, well, we tried. We can't get
Speaker 3: a partial jury, you know, and partial jury or the jury,
Speaker 3: we can't get the you know, we can't get that
Speaker 3: swing to go our way. Uh so we're not gonna
Speaker 3: try it again. And we've we've done all our resource,
Speaker 3: we've done due diligence. What's gonna move on from here?
Speaker 3: And no accountability for anybody but the third party culprit
Speaker 3: has been introduced with Brian Haigs, Brian Albert and someone else.
Speaker 2: Right, So I just want to say shout out to
Speaker 2: Joe Flipperhead, the legend.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, bust my balls all day to.
Speaker 2: Day, Philadelphia, Baby kill him.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Delta ass all day along, Delta Ass, flip up,
Speaker 7: Jesus and God bid win the Super Bowls walking on water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Now then we were still then we're
Speaker 3: still one of his best defensive players, awesome offensive players
Speaker 3: and the legend. Yeah, what's up? I wanted to hey, Denny,
Speaker 3: did you make it to the standout today? If you
Speaker 3: get a chance, just answer because I know so we
Speaker 3: talked about the standouts just a second ago. And Mackandoza
Speaker 3: has filed the federal lawsuit, skipped the whole state statue,
Speaker 3: went to the Feds, and he's going to be in
Speaker 3: front on in front of a judge Friday morning. So
Speaker 3: it's happened pretty quick. Uh. And they have like seven
Speaker 3: de seeding jurors now.
Speaker 8: I think it's six, right or was it five today
Speaker 8: to yesterday?
Speaker 5: I think that's yeah?
Speaker 3: And that the big word is I just took Let's
Speaker 3: stop you guys.
Speaker 2: You know one thing I want to do before it
Speaker 2: gets too far away. Since Kelly said it, Uh, she said,
Speaker 2: Bev is drinking boxed wine? Can we get by our panelists?
Speaker 2: And the chat is Bev drinking boxed wine? Is she
Speaker 2: drinking the type of wine that you just unscrew the
Speaker 2: cap or does she actually have a cork? So if
Speaker 2: anybody could uh, if BEV is not too lazy to
Speaker 2: So if anybody would like to weigh in on what
Speaker 2: type of wine that that BEV drinks, I would really
Speaker 2: appreciate that. Oh and Brenda's here, all right, Brenda Sweeney,
Speaker 2: the other legend.
Speaker 3: All right, seven seven jurors, And the what I've been
Speaker 3: preaching about this jurors is last year, I think that
Speaker 3: the jury, the jury was white collar educated lawyers, teachers, thanks, policemen, engineers,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to do. They pulled them from Dover,
Speaker 3: they pulled them from Brookline. I think they might have
Speaker 3: changed up the zip codes. And there's a little, uh
Speaker 3: little color that there's actually a black gentleman. I think
Speaker 3: that was seeded, which I find very important because everybody
Speaker 3: has their own experience with law enforcements. I was brought
Speaker 3: up to always trust law enforcement no matter what, right
Speaker 3: until years ago and years ago. But if you're from
Speaker 3: average incomes like a half a million a year, your
Speaker 3: house is worth one point five in the neighborhood of that.
Speaker 3: All the time, it's you lived a different life. You
Speaker 3: work around with people that have a different thought process.
Speaker 3: So show me your friends, show me a future. You'll
Speaker 3: be a like minded person from that town. So I
Speaker 3: like Randolph, I I like you know, Wadnyamith, I like Rockland.
Speaker 3: I like those and being will probably agree with me.
Speaker 3: We see a lot of those people at our standouts.
Speaker 3: We see a lot of witmen. We see you know
Speaker 3: that the you know, we see a lot of you know, uh, Braintree.
Speaker 3: We see a lot of Canton. But you know still
Speaker 3: I'm Stowton. We see a lot of that we don't
Speaker 3: see last year. I feel like it was like dover brookline, whatever,
Speaker 3: go down the line, whatever you want to do. I
Speaker 3: think that's a big, big, big, big difference. And all
Speaker 3: we have to we have to do is we just
Speaker 3: show reasonable doubt and let people understand what that really is.
Speaker 3: Like the level for guilty has gotta be so high.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see bad with some mad dog twenty
Speaker 2: twenty year boons farm.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, go ahead. She wakes up, she just like
Speaker 3: pulls the heavers off her and a bottle falls off
Speaker 3: the bed, and like the dogs laying next Door's like fuck,
Speaker 3: I can see it happening.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I wonder if she I mean, I wonder if she
Speaker 3: goes downstairs and that just you know, all goodness creation
Speaker 3: is going to be a long day to day, goes
Speaker 3: back up with the thermos around look looking at the crash.
Speaker 3: Daddy's like, would I like to take you in my chamber?
Speaker 8: Huh?
Speaker 3: Just that look was devilish.
Speaker 4: That she was like, right right, the guys, my.
Speaker 3: Husband's on the cape. This could work, This could work.
Speaker 3: I can So she's human. I just feel I just
Speaker 3: feel like she knows what the right decision is because
Speaker 3: she has her peers. They must talk, other judges must
Speaker 3: sit and have lunch or go out. I don't know.
Speaker 3: And it's just like, how can you make how can
Speaker 3: you not? How can did you do that? Now? Hank
Speaker 3: is a you know, he's a good lawyer. He's smarter
Speaker 3: than we think, and he does not like the federal
Speaker 3: government because of the cases that he tries. You know Whitey.
Speaker 3: He was the defensive council for Whitey the Feds and
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff on him why he wanted to
Speaker 3: take the stand. But I think Hank was told not
Speaker 3: to let him go on to the stand because of
Speaker 3: what he knew and what he might stay on the
Speaker 3: stand and opened up another can alarms.
Speaker 2: Well, well, let's talk about let's talk about two elements
Speaker 2: that both that encompass both of these people, both Bev
Speaker 2: and Hank. There's one thing that they both like, and
Speaker 2: that's power.
Speaker 3: And this is.
Speaker 2: Probably one of the most often, probably one of the
Speaker 2: most overused sort of axioms that they say power corrupts
Speaker 2: and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely is Bev will think that
Speaker 2: she has absolute power because she understands what checks and balances,
Speaker 2: that how few checks and balances there are.
Speaker 3: And in Hank's.
Speaker 2: Case, first of all, we believe that he's going to
Speaker 2: be paid a lot more than what morrissey because we
Speaker 2: don't trust anything that he says. You and I talked
Speaker 2: about that, both of both of us individually, with with
Speaker 2: with me and with that if he could become DA
Speaker 2: and that's power, So that would mean that could potentially
Speaker 2: mean something to Hank Brennan knowing.
Speaker 3: That that lard.
Speaker 2: Ass is going to be out of there soon. But
Speaker 2: I want to point out something that Val halle Laws
Speaker 2: said right here. There was dermane to that.
Speaker 3: Val says, if there.
Speaker 9: Is another mistrial, there are a few grounds Karen can
Speaker 9: still appeal on, but the mistrials will probably be repeated
Speaker 9: until Morris is kicked out of office.
Speaker 2: So there you go, Ken that land that I was
Speaker 2: doing Ken Hathaway in the chat I was doing I was.
Speaker 3: Doing Ken's Dunna.
Speaker 6: Certainly his mother can you say character for the rest
Speaker 6: of the night, know, you know, with an Irish accent
Speaker 6: her Boston mic just to make you feel like you're
Speaker 6: back in the homeland.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Dev loves you.
Speaker 2: She's yeah, so so what she's saying that that's important.
Speaker 2: There is more importantly all kidding aside that there are
Speaker 2: a few grounds that Karen could appeal on.
Speaker 3: But I agree. I don't believe.
Speaker 2: That they will dismiss this case if there is a
Speaker 2: mistrial and a hung Jerry, because I have that little
Speaker 2: faith in the Commonwealth. Now is that me rooting against
Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe in them,
Speaker 2: and I think they would say we're going to go
Speaker 2: again based on the history that you cited and and
Speaker 2: what she's saying right here, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I just that's a that's a big if you've got
Speaker 3: to judge's calling balls and strikes for you. If thank
Speaker 3: Brenan has I don't think you know, the d has
Speaker 3: to be voted in at this point. I don't think
Speaker 3: he's gonna shot to get whether win, lose a draw.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna shot at winning an election,
Speaker 3: be honest with you, from what I feel and what
Speaker 3: I know with people, and you know you want to
Speaker 3: get the vote out, We'll get the vote out in
Speaker 3: Norfolk County for sure. What's scary is that no one
Speaker 3: stepped up and said, Hey, I'm gonna run for DA.
Speaker 3: We do have one person, and I don't know who
Speaker 3: it is. That's how once they've been out there. I
Speaker 3: think we're down like fifteen or fourteen months before the
Speaker 3: election and we just need a lawyer. I've always said Yanetti,
Speaker 3: but he's probably doing well in the private sector right now.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 8: But I don't think think is even like he's going
Speaker 8: into this showing how dirty he is. I can't imagine
Speaker 8: that that's gonna be that's a good look for him.
Speaker 8: What he's presenting right now in front.
Speaker 5: Of the world is just dirty.
Speaker 8: He's out there argue emotions that aren't even on paper. He's,
Speaker 8: you know, trying to let stuff stick to the wall,
Speaker 8: and she's filling for it.
Speaker 2: Well, let me, let me let me draw an example.
Speaker 2: If you have two fighting forces, so let's say you
Speaker 2: have the United States and then we're on the ground
Speaker 2: in Afghanistan and you have elements like al Qaeda or
Speaker 2: the Taliban, Right, so they have to conduct an insurgency
Speaker 2: of sorts. If we play fair, Okay, we're gonna come
Speaker 2: out on the battlefield and we're gonna fight. What's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna we have take some casualties.
Speaker 2: No, they're gonna lose. If we come out onto the
Speaker 2: field of battle, they're gonna lose. So now what do
Speaker 2: they have to do?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I can try I eds, you know, I can. I
Speaker 2: know their convoys are gonna use these roads, so I
Speaker 2: can blow up some of the I can inflict casualties
Speaker 2: that way. I can use dirty bombs. I can attack
Speaker 2: their their less guarded barracks.
Speaker 3: Especially. There was one barracks they.
Speaker 2: Had that was a FOB of forward operating base that
Speaker 2: was surrounded by high mountains. I think it was called
Speaker 2: FOB something with a K. I can't remember. There was
Speaker 2: a movie made about it. That's how bad? That so hard?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it? I saw the movie you talked about.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about. Okay, there they had
Speaker 3: the low they had the low ground. They was mouth, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was horrible.
Speaker 2: It's like who the hell would put Bob keating? It
Speaker 2: was called so.
Speaker 3: Who the hell?
Speaker 2: So, how the hell do you expect this guy to
Speaker 2: go in there with Lally at his side and that
Speaker 2: other moron liar? And then you know this said, the
Speaker 2: three seventy four pages of information had nothing exculpatory.
Speaker 3: How do you expect them to go.
Speaker 2: In and and want to wage a fair fight when
Speaker 2: all the organic evidences with Jackson is with Ynetti and
Speaker 2: Eliza Little and now Victoria Joje and so forth. I
Speaker 2: was using Sean's accent there, so, so so if you
Speaker 2: if you understand that, then you totally understand why he's
Speaker 2: doing what he's doing because he wants to win. He's
Speaker 2: a competitor. So imagine, you know, Bill Belichick right against
Speaker 2: Andy from the chiefs, I'm gonna read Andy Reid, thank you.
Speaker 2: So you're not gonna want to fight fair, You're gonna
Speaker 2: fight dirty because that's all you can do. He's not
Speaker 2: gonna win a fair fight, is he? And he's not
Speaker 2: fighting for the win because he knows he can't win
Speaker 2: because they don't have the evidence. So all he has
Speaker 2: to do is dirty up their case, get people, get
Speaker 2: their witnesses. Not allowed like the FBI agent. He tried, ARCA,
Speaker 2: tried doctor Russell. You know, he'll try the dog bite expert.
Speaker 2: You know you can't talk about Colin, No, he can't
Speaker 2: talk about that there was a federal investigation. So he's
Speaker 2: gonna use all these tricks because if they just meet
Speaker 2: like this, well the defense is gonna is gonna win. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I understand exactly why he's doing what he's doing
Speaker 2: because that's his only play, right.
Speaker 3: So a great point, great analogy of what's actually happened.
Speaker 3: I kind of look back at the minute men when
Speaker 3: they knew they couldn't beat Britain. Britain just walked at
Speaker 3: them straight. But we just fought from the woods and
Speaker 3: fixed them off, fix them off on a time. But
Speaker 3: that just took time. And I agree with what with
Speaker 3: what's going on. But how to win is that when
Speaker 3: the defense won't won't play dirty, they'll play smarter. They'll
Speaker 3: you know, So if Wels can't get in the FBI expert,
Speaker 3: maybe they look at a state expert. Maybe they look
Speaker 3: somewhere else, you know, to figure out how crime scene
Speaker 3: should have been handled. Because the state police owned that
Speaker 3: crime scene, not the can't plase have to say seven
Speaker 3: o'clock after genre was pronounced dead. So there's a lot
Speaker 3: of investigating things that should be going on and to
Speaker 3: have bev say, even a lamean can understand what a
Speaker 3: police prosecutor or police crime scene should be held, like
Speaker 3: you know what you mean? I mean, are you know
Speaker 3: not even a cop sitting there can't and cops sitting
Speaker 3: there for eight nine hours, just ridiculous. Now again, reasonable doubt,
Speaker 3: that's all you have to prove. We don't have the
Speaker 3: defenses of the preventing. It's up to the prosecution to
Speaker 3: say this is what we have. If you do, one
Speaker 3: person with reasonable doubts. Sorry, hey, yeah, one person with
Speaker 3: reasonable doubt. Mis trump, I mean, no hung jury. But
Speaker 3: I don't think it goes that way. I think it's
Speaker 3: either one gonna be stuck for guilty. Yeah, do you
Speaker 3: think it's going to be what I think? She wins it?
Speaker 3: All right, you do, Yeah, she's quitted. I don't think
Speaker 3: she spends one night jever.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, I don't think she ever. I don't
Speaker 2: think I lose. I just don't think I think the
Speaker 2: hung jury because I think when you see the morons
Speaker 2: that were there last time, how do I know I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna get it. I only need they only need
Speaker 2: one moron, or if they need the Mcalberts to show
Speaker 2: up and stop and shop, lean against their car and
Speaker 2: stare at that person as they're walking out with their groceries,
Speaker 2: and that's it.
Speaker 3: That's all they need. Well, you don't the exposure of
Speaker 3: Fanning being around the jury smells bad to begin with?
Speaker 3: Ye that has been If.
Speaker 2: You want to let the dog out, you can let
Speaker 2: the dog out, and we keep talking.
Speaker 3: We're good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, can I just make a point Fanning today
Speaker 8: during the Turk trial.
Speaker 5: Funny thing is.
Speaker 8: Is that he was testifying about what he does and
Speaker 8: he never mentioned being security for the jury. So he
Speaker 8: talked about doing administrative duties. He talked about he's you know,
Speaker 8: he's a he's a sergeant.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 8: He never once talked about, oh, I'm in charge.
Speaker 5: Of jury security. So I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what this means.
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna have no Boston copp and or ATF agent.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, there's that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that too. I mean that's a third party.
Speaker 3: That's a third party culprit, even even David Jennetti to
Speaker 3: stand up and say those three names in the open court,
Speaker 3: to have face and say, hey, this is what we're
Speaker 3: coming at you with, and we could prove it. We
Speaker 3: can prove it. Never heard that before. And Davy Nettie's
Speaker 3: not the type of guy to throw a hut against
Speaker 3: the wall see the sticks, because he knows he's getting
Speaker 3: bolved in strikes, you know, thrown against him. So he's like, no,
Speaker 3: we we actually can prove it. We don't need to
Speaker 3: talk about a federal investigation either. So neither one body.
Speaker 3: Someone flipped, someone talked someone. I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 3: so I gotta only speculate, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: and T shirts. I'm gonna get one myself. You're gonna
Speaker 2: show it BEA.
Speaker 5: No, I don't have it yet. She's bringing it back
Speaker 5: next Well. The photos, Oh, i'd have to send them
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 3: No, you share it.
Speaker 2: You just click present and you could share him from
Speaker 2: your computer. Oh okay, all right, so let's go so
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Speaker 2: I think Hank's best fight is before the trial. Stats
Speaker 2: jurors won't like Spanky if he continues like this. What
Speaker 2: do you guys think about that?
Speaker 5: It's true?
Speaker 3: Do you want like? Did you see Alan Jackson when
Speaker 3: he laughed with the jurors this morning, thank you you're turning.
Speaker 3: He turned around, he said good morning jurors, and no
Speaker 3: one said a word, and he smiled and laughed and
Speaker 3: said good morning jurors, and they all just started to laugh.
Speaker 3: And hats and minds when the hearts and minds of
Speaker 3: battle right, yes, absolutely out of war, hats and minds.
Speaker 3: This is a heart and mind campaign. If you like
Speaker 3: Alan Jackson, if you like David Jannetti, you're halfway home.
Speaker 3: You like Liza Little, She's a different type of girl
Speaker 3: this time around two point zero that she was one
Speaker 3: point zero. She doesn't have that little froggy in her
Speaker 3: throat where she's a little hesitant to speak her mind.
Speaker 3: She is standing right up with a straight shoulders back
Speaker 3: and had attention and saying, you know, this is what
Speaker 3: we present, this is what we're going to present, this
Speaker 3: is the timeline, and we're going to present. And you
Speaker 3: can see that Bed is calling on her a little
Speaker 3: bit more for the insens almost like it's a test,
Speaker 3: almost like you know, I'm not gonna ask you, Eddie
Speaker 3: or Jack said, I know they know, but do you know, Eliza?
Speaker 3: You know? And then the whole other thing about bringing
Speaker 3: George on who that was a curve ball, that was
Speaker 3: twelve to six that came in. I backed out of
Speaker 3: the baddest box. Never saw that thing coming, Never saw
Speaker 3: that thing coming. And to be working for David d
Speaker 3: Netty first of all, have a job of them. And
Speaker 3: then this that was a tactical move from day one.
Speaker 3: You knew that. You probably when you saw that, you
Speaker 3: probace that's smart at some of the Bee man that
Speaker 3: what a good move. That was what she brings to
Speaker 3: the courtroom. What the jurors were probably talking about at
Speaker 3: lunch maybe who knows. I don't know what they were
Speaker 3: talking about, but I can tell you it's it seems
Speaker 3: to me that they're going for a different time of jura.
Speaker 3: Now they only had so many strikes, or I think
Speaker 3: of how it works. They can excuse me. Jurors one
Speaker 3: has twelve the ones how it works. But to get
Speaker 3: seven in three days, we could be a trial in
Speaker 3: a week and a half, you know the way I
Speaker 3: had a schedule, And uh, I think that's I don't
Speaker 3: want to see a feeling. But there's still way that
Speaker 3: David Yanetti talked about how we can prove a third
Speaker 3: party culprit. We can prove it.
Speaker 2: I want to congratulate Victoria George because I applied to
Speaker 2: Yunetti Law firm as well. I I strangely enough, he
Speaker 2: didn't return my phone call, but I said I'd empty
Speaker 2: the shredder bags. You know, I could vacuu him. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff here. I can do some
Speaker 2: filing and stuff if that exists anymore.
Speaker 3: He meant. He mentioned, he mentioned now that he has
Speaker 3: an office in Debtham when he talks to the jurors.
Speaker 3: Now perfect, you know one in Boston and I have
Speaker 3: one here in Debtham. People, so when he's talking, he's
Speaker 3: in that he's in that Norfolk County. You know, he
Speaker 3: lives in the North Shore, has an office in being Down.
Speaker 3: But now he has an office in den him. You know,
Speaker 3: he's he's here, man. He doesn't like to lose. I
Speaker 3: mean he's He's prosecuted one of the most horrific cases,
Speaker 3: the Curly case where the kids threw them over the
Speaker 3: yeah you know what I'm talking about, the young kid
Speaker 3: that they put him. Yeah, they put him in a
Speaker 3: He prosecuted that one to the end of the earth.
Speaker 3: And he he promised the parents that he would he
Speaker 3: would win this without a doubt. And that's the kind
Speaker 3: of guy win the hearts and minds of people. And
Speaker 3: you can look at David, Yey guys and Jackson, little
Speaker 3: Karen and George and know what you're getting. Hank to
Speaker 3: me right now doesn't have that look. He's got a
Speaker 3: look of desperation a little bit. I need to get
Speaker 3: this done. This needs to happen this way, this rule
Speaker 3: needs to go this way. I have to deny this motion.
Speaker 3: I have to spile this report tonight. Lovely's sitting there
Speaker 3: like a bump of the lug. He's there. He's a prisoner.
Speaker 3: He's not really wanting to be there, He's forced to
Speaker 3: be there. Kind of support. Uh, Laura, but Laughlin, you
Speaker 3: know she's the silent killer. I don't know what she does,
Speaker 3: but when she doesn't watch out, she's preparing for it, right,
Speaker 3: She's like you know, and sneaking around with the videos.
Speaker 3: You know, we're finding out more stuff through the Can't
Speaker 3: Police audit that they actually can store videos up to
Speaker 3: eight hundred days. That came out, so, oh, hometo my hometalent?
Speaker 3: Good then, I know. Really, but that audit, even though
Speaker 3: they turn to spend it as a favorable outcome to
Speaker 3: the Can't Police, and when you read it, you're like, well,
Speaker 3: if you guys think that's Sava rble, you guys should
Speaker 3: probably read another one from another police department that probably
Speaker 3: smoked you guys. And these police officers are playing the
Speaker 3: victim because they're getting harassed by social media.
Speaker 8: There's magic the leaf blow or innovative and they make
Speaker 8: all the all the redtail light like what where the
Speaker 8: world is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? The shoe, the shoe, how do you miss? You
Speaker 3: walked over that shoe three or four five times? Why'd
Speaker 3: you miss a black shoe and white snow? Stop? Stop?
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: These incredibly innovative investigative techniques are being studied the world
Speaker 2: over in Finland right now, they're watching videos going man,
Speaker 2: can can we possibly replicate these incredible geniuses from the
Speaker 2: Norfolk DA's MSP contingent and Canton PD, because boy, we
Speaker 2: could solve so many crimes. Here's a question for you
Speaker 2: from calling Bennie, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Question for Mike.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to make you laugh like
Speaker 2: John Como, but I'll do my best.
Speaker 3: Question.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to find a video that I saw
Speaker 2: a long time ago. Where was Karen's vehicle when Jan
Speaker 2: and Carrier drove Karen to Fairview.
Speaker 3: Road, left and Won Meadows? Where was it? Where was
Speaker 3: that car?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 8: It was at one okay, because they had all gone
Speaker 8: back to John's house because on Jen McCabe's idea, they better.
Speaker 8: That's when she walked through the house with shoes. Where
Speaker 8: they try to say that that showed her consciousness of
Speaker 8: guilt because he didn't.
Speaker 5: Allow shoes in the house.
Speaker 8: They left the card she left her vehicle there while
Speaker 8: they drove over to to look for John.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like that.
Speaker 2: If if there's nothing else that proves Karen guilty, it's
Speaker 2: that right there. She didn't take her shoes off. I
Speaker 2: think I'm switching sides now with the with the weight
Speaker 2: of that evidence. Jenna, you are such a fucking genius.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm switching sides.
Speaker 3: Well, she made she makes the phone. She makes the
Speaker 3: phone call to Jen mcabs. She gets the phone number
Speaker 3: from her from John's niece, because she didn't have Jim
Speaker 3: mccame's phone number. She doesn't drives over that when you
Speaker 3: see her leading with the tail ice intact. She drives
Speaker 3: over to Jen McCabe's house. They can play about her
Speaker 3: being loud and to calm down. Jen then gets to
Speaker 3: the car, drives Karen's car to One Meadows, carry meets
Speaker 3: him there. Yeah, right, my right. And then they surprised
Speaker 3: John cam up there, you know he's out somewhere. They
Speaker 3: get all three of them get into the car again.
Speaker 3: Karen is driving, Kerry is driving her car with Karen
Speaker 3: in the front. She's in the back seat, Yeah, backseat.
Speaker 3: So and then the other thing was the consciousness of
Speaker 3: Guild is that she was the first one to see him.
Speaker 3: She knew exactly where to look. That was the other
Speaker 3: one that I got to laughing at, like, no, it's
Speaker 3: pretty obvious that she was right. It was right there.
Speaker 3: It could miss it. Really, I mean, to have all
Speaker 3: those people leave and have that body allegedly being there
Speaker 3: from twelve thirty on makes no sense.
Speaker 8: And then he said they said that in the motions
Speaker 8: that he was off the road.
Speaker 5: That's very close to the road.
Speaker 8: And you know how small that yard is and where
Speaker 8: the flagpole is.
Speaker 3: Ye, like it's it's as you would say. I saw it.
Speaker 8: I saw it.
Speaker 3: I saw it with my own eyes. I saw my
Speaker 3: own eyes. There's an r.
Speaker 2: That's what we're having fun with.
Speaker 3: Sorry, well, sorry, I'm sorry. It's all right man. You
Speaker 3: went to school here. Well, let's slide. Let's slide. All right.
Speaker 2: This is what I do. Man, We do this all
Speaker 2: the time. Man, this is what we do.
Speaker 3: Go ahead. So so when they so when she jumps
Speaker 3: out of the car, oh, that's consciousness of guilt because
Speaker 3: she saw how did she see them? I'm like Jesus H.
Speaker 3: Christ on a freaking popsicle stick. Stop it. Let's just
Speaker 3: make she was looking.
Speaker 8: They were looking for that for him.
Speaker 3: She was right, that's which the last place I remember
Speaker 3: was dropping them off. You know, she's lying. Gen was lying, Like, no, Karen,
Speaker 3: you didn't say that. You said you left the waterfall.
Speaker 3: You don't remember thinking that's bullshit. She never said those words.
Speaker 3: That's just Karen just trying to make it sound really
Speaker 3: fucked up. Excuse me, you swear? Okay, all right, I'll
Speaker 3: try to.
Speaker 2: Let's not make it, you know, but but yeah, this
Speaker 2: these people pissed me off so bad that sometimes I
Speaker 2: just can't help it. But we try not to make
Speaker 2: it a f bomb. No, I don't one, you know,
Speaker 2: once out, that's all good, brother. So do you want
Speaker 2: to do a little bit of Mike Boston mic ism
Speaker 2: and sort of, you know, tie some things together that
Speaker 2: people may not be aware of, because you've got some
Speaker 2: really amazing thoughts on this case, Mike, and I think
Speaker 2: the audience would like to hear them.
Speaker 3: Well, the one thing that's really been wathering, man, is
Speaker 3: that the garage door at One Meadows was left open
Speaker 3: and they couldn't get a hut. Remember Mike Colorado was
Speaker 3: snowblowing the driveway or he went over there to pick
Speaker 3: up the or drop off the sun the nephew, and
Speaker 3: he couldn't get the garage door to come down, nor
Speaker 3: did the code work. He knew the code to put
Speaker 3: the garage door down, he could not get to come down.
Speaker 3: Why was it open? Why was it left to him
Speaker 3: when Karen Jen and carry all left they closed it?
Speaker 3: Interesting the other Yeah, and now when he Mike shows
Speaker 3: up at like eight thirty nine o'clock because his wife's
Speaker 3: a nurse. His wife was calling him to wake him
Speaker 3: up to tell what was going on. She's a nurse
Speaker 3: down at Brockton Works the weekends. Only she knew woke
Speaker 3: Mike up. Mike freaks out because he was having abuse
Speaker 3: of them the night before. He's got to go over
Speaker 3: there check on the niece. Pulls up the garage doors open,
Speaker 3: wide open, and the codes were not working, and he
Speaker 3: cannot pull it down. He can't pull it down with
Speaker 3: the orange thing. So something that bothers me has bothered
Speaker 3: me there. That bothers me quite a bit. Obviously, the
Speaker 3: timeline is all screwed up. Judrius uh not knowing that
Speaker 3: where the two minutes were. He was probably one of
Speaker 3: the honest people on the stand, was not Jutirous, the
Speaker 3: technician guy by the technical video guy. I don't believe
Speaker 3: you want to lie. He wasn't gonna lie for anybody.
Speaker 3: He was up there. Ask me the quest you want
Speaker 3: to ask me? I'm gonna answer room. And you saw
Speaker 3: Lally get caught in that when need to beat that.
Speaker 3: So that just that blew one up for me. And
Speaker 3: then uh, Alley's uh finding the dog. She went to
Speaker 3: the police station with the rock. No one's really put
Speaker 3: that together yet. Say that again, Okay, So Ally's Alley's
Speaker 3: out driving around. She finds a lost dog in the
Speaker 3: middle of a snow storm, like at one o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning. The morning goes to Canton p d. H
Speaker 3: drops the dog off and just as I just found
Speaker 3: this dog in the snow, I just want you guys
Speaker 3: to have it what and left? So puts her a
Speaker 3: kit and PTE at the same time as Higgins Higgins Higgins. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how Higgins get from Fairview to Can't and beat to
Speaker 3: get his car? Or did he have his car? Did
Speaker 3: he not? There was no jeep there. We know that
Speaker 3: because the you know Max what's her name, Heather mac Nagel, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and the nudo never saw her jeep. They pulled up
Speaker 3: right behind Karen. They saw John walk in the walk
Speaker 3: in that house. There's no question about it. Julie Nagel
Speaker 3: walked right past John and John was walking into that
Speaker 3: house had to have that timeline to work a little
Speaker 3: things like that. She's comfortable lying about it. I think
Speaker 3: she was told to she was an interviewed for eighteen
Speaker 3: months after the fact because her name was hidden.
Speaker 2: Eighteen months, yes, sir, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Wow. And then the other one that bothers me a
Speaker 3: little bit is that they were able to get rid
Speaker 3: of Lucky's testimony and just say that he's unreliable. I
Speaker 3: think that. I think that these guys. Yeah, the report
Speaker 3: of the dogs, people don't know about that. I actually
Speaker 3: have a picture of I actually have a picture of
Speaker 3: the dog.
Speaker 2: It looks like Dogman wants to.
Speaker 10: Call from big Foot from the Bronks.
Speaker 3: Take that press one, pressed two. Okay, you're on the
Speaker 3: air with Boston Mike, who is speaking with.
Speaker 10: A Bigfoot from the Bronx.
Speaker 2: Okay, I.
Speaker 10: Know what happened to Karen. I know what happened to
Speaker 10: John o'keith. Nobody's lying in this case. Okay, Karen didn't
Speaker 10: hit him with the car, and he never went in
Speaker 10: the house. Okay, he went behind the house and my
Speaker 10: cousin Sasquatch attacked him, Okay, and he didn't mean to
Speaker 10: hurt him, but he scratched his arm and he hit
Speaker 10: his head and he fell bit sasquatch. So he carried
Speaker 10: him to the front of the house and he laid
Speaker 10: him down nice and gentle.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 10: Now in nineteen forty seven, Sasquash in Uh, South America
Speaker 10: attack somebody the exact same scratch I have time. No
Speaker 10: one looks in.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I want to thank you for
Speaker 2: solving this because it's you know, we really have been
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what happened. And and thank you
Speaker 2: for solving it.
Speaker 3: Thank you for calling in now will that was good.
Speaker 2: So this good job, my man from White Plains, White Places,
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 3: This near where I grew up. Go ahead, Ali Raley
Speaker 3: really gets into the detail about the timeline and why
Speaker 3: she has to dog and why she's a compeded to
Speaker 3: drop her off. No one's talking about it. The prosecution
Speaker 3: is not bringing her up on understand for a reason.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. We have not we have not
Speaker 2: heard that one. So that was an alibi. To just
Speaker 2: make sure that everybody when you stitch it together, So
Speaker 2: you're saying that they were using that as a Higgins
Speaker 2: is that was that an alibi or what?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: Do you surmise was I think, yeah, I think that
Speaker 3: there was two people in the car with her. That's
Speaker 3: the reason why Higgins got dropped off there. He never
Speaker 3: took his jeep. He he dropped his cars off, jumped
Speaker 3: in the truck with you. The Brian Brian Alboert went
Speaker 3: back to herself with Brian ship on one sideways, got
Speaker 3: to get out of there. Boom. She's in the car
Speaker 3: with Colin and Higgins. Now the high school is right there.
Speaker 3: You can actually walk to the high school from that house.
Speaker 3: So her phone is putting her at the high school
Speaker 3: as well, and then putting it at the Canton Pete.
Speaker 3: Beatrice knows this. She's you're on top of this case.
Speaker 3: You go, good girl, right but just awesome.
Speaker 2: She's like yes because she's Cuban Americans. So I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: ahead going.
Speaker 3: And uh so people of getting about these little nuances
Speaker 3: like that, doesn't it make sense? How hot like people like, oh,
Speaker 3: Higgins bust the drovers jeep to the can pet because
Speaker 3: how is he gonna get there? And I'm like, uh
Speaker 3: do I have to go into this? I don't want
Speaker 3: to go into this. And I've actually I've worked with
Speaker 3: Flip Ahead on this and uh, I have a picture
Speaker 3: of the lost dog sign. I know what type of
Speaker 3: dial was. It wasn't the first time the dog world away.
Speaker 3: It was a little chihuahua. What's the chiuala doing out
Speaker 3: at one thirty in the morning? Is beyond being a snowstorm?
Speaker 3: Right or legs? He's getting some snow? Uh oh yeah,
Speaker 3: thank you. It doesn't make more sense. Uh yeah. The
Speaker 3: other the other thing, if John was out there at
Speaker 3: twelve thirty, where's the blood?
Speaker 2: Where's I mean, surely you know it.
Speaker 3: Would be saturated in that ground, So there's there's that.
Speaker 3: The floor being replaced, Uh is another big red flag
Speaker 3: for me selling the house. I mean, that's you're talk
Speaker 3: about consciousness of guilt. Were talking about not taking your
Speaker 3: shoes off, but you want to talking about selling your house,
Speaker 3: places your floor, throwing your phones, everybody getting a new phone.
Speaker 3: I was told that everybody there that wasn't an albut
Speaker 3: that would guests would put into a bathroom and their
Speaker 3: phones would taken from them and they got new phones
Speaker 3: in the next two days, all new phone numbers, all
Speaker 3: new sump cards. Everything. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh that's not I mean, that's not That doesn't make
Speaker 2: me suspicious, Mike, I think you're super skeptical. It's perfectly
Speaker 2: normal for two guys to all of a sudden get
Speaker 2: rid of their phones on the same day and completely
Speaker 2: destroy them and get new numbers. I mean that, to
Speaker 2: me is consistent with honest people. I'm trying to be funny, guys.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to I asked, asked Karen, and she told
Speaker 3: me she drove it against the Canton PD. So maybe
Speaker 3: he drove his jeep from the waterfall to the p
Speaker 3: I don't know, but his jeep was never at thirty
Speaker 3: four because no one ever saw it. I mean you
Speaker 3: talk about how Alan Jackson nailed them down to the
Speaker 3: height of the plow, how the plow is angled off
Speaker 3: to the right when you turn your car around, Well
Speaker 3: the lights turned on a certain way, Well if they
Speaker 3: will forward like that into the small luod, that means
Speaker 3: you couldn't have seen a six fifteen pound body land
Speaker 3: right there. You would have.
Speaker 8: And that whole story that he did a sweep when
Speaker 8: there was no snow on the ground, You don't do that.
Speaker 3: Say a back drafted, he said, I was back. He
Speaker 3: got into details of how he actually plowed, Like, let's
Speaker 3: overkill right, No one says, I got if you were there? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just pulled up with my jeep. I did a
Speaker 3: couple of the drive by pocket right by the mailbox
Speaker 3: on Jordan's side. I left because they didn't have any jameson.
Speaker 3: But well, do we know he's seen at the waterfall
Speaker 3: drinking a beer?
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got We've got a question from Mike, and
Speaker 2: Val also has a question. So Val, if you would
Speaker 2: state the entire nature of your question so we could
Speaker 2: because you said something that people are wanting you to
Speaker 2: say again and I don't know what it was. So
Speaker 2: somebody in the chat, if you would please let Mike
Speaker 2: know what you want to hear. And in the meantime,
Speaker 2: if if uh Mike and Boston Mike and Boston bea
Speaker 2: could answer, who do you think moved John's phone? At
Speaker 2: twelve thirty two? The eighty two steps then turned the
Speaker 2: phone off.
Speaker 3: Brian albert Ooh, bald headed Brian Albert I see Scott
Speaker 3: and get us In the chat, Higgins was guy with
Speaker 3: the rumbling cloaking device. Facts. Yes, everyone everybody's got their
Speaker 3: way about it. Uh yeah, his phone, you know, if
Speaker 3: it's out in the cold that long he's probably gonna
Speaker 3: lose this battery power. We all know that. Uh, someone
Speaker 3: else had that phone. Someone else put it out there
Speaker 3: in the morning, went had it with them that morning,
Speaker 3: and it went, yeah, went under the body. Like physics
Speaker 3: doesn't line up with the way he was allegedly hit.
Speaker 3: His phone would have ever stayed in his hand or
Speaker 3: in his back pocket and then directly underneath him just
Speaker 3: doesn't make make it make sense kind of thing to me. Uh,
Speaker 3: the thing about the phones in the bathroom. All you
Speaker 3: want to know about that.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I want you to.
Speaker 3: So these bunds of these cops and the ATF agent,
Speaker 3: if you haven't seen anything, you can't say anything. Right, So,
Speaker 3: no one's going downstairs and no one's leaving until we
Speaker 3: figure out what we're doing, which was one thirty quarter
Speaker 3: or two. You know what we're gonna do. John was
Speaker 3: put into another room downstairs, upright sitting against the wall.
Speaker 3: It's you know, he's vomiting on That's how the blood
Speaker 3: gets all down there. Uh. And then they make sure
Speaker 3: that everybody can't say that they were. They can't. They're
Speaker 3: not gonna lie, well we weren't. We're not gonna tell
Speaker 3: them what we were walking into a bathroom or you know,
Speaker 3: and we couldn't get out. That's what happened to Levinson.
Speaker 3: That's that's what happened to some other people. They get
Speaker 3: the phones taken away from them. Uh, that's why Levinson's
Speaker 3: having a hard time with this whole thing.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: They would give them the phones to make sure that
Speaker 3: there's no other text messages involved sending out between that time. Again,
Speaker 3: I would never think of anything like that, Like, let's
Speaker 3: get all these people together permitter roles, so they can't
Speaker 3: say they even saw or anything or heard anything. And
Speaker 3: you guys, right, you're not lying. You didn't say you
Speaker 3: never saw her do that thing, right right, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's why they took the phones. Stay in the bathroom
Speaker 3: and look from the bathroom. Oh thank you.
Speaker 2: And we also have another five dollars from sham Wau,
Speaker 2: which is I think, oh, maybe this is the one
Speaker 2: I saw earlier. Forgive me, here's this one, okay. Uh,
Speaker 2: Higgins's long winded answers about cheap and moving cars is very.
Speaker 3: Suspicious administrative business at one three in the morning after
Speaker 3: a day long drinking. Yeah, it just doesn't make sense, right,
Speaker 3: So the jeep's not even at thirty four, I of you.
Speaker 3: It's not there. People, wasn't there, It was never there anything.
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, sorry, because it's been bugging me. Okay, so
Speaker 8: you two married men right here on the panel with me,
Speaker 8: do you do you ever think it's sus the fact
Speaker 8: that all these women are out in the middle of
Speaker 8: a blizzard driving their trucks all over town and their
Speaker 8: husbands are just sitting pretty at home when this was
Speaker 8: supposed to be John's friend.
Speaker 5: I mean, not so much.
Speaker 8: I mean Carrie was.
Speaker 5: Carrie's husband was friends with John.
Speaker 8: All these men are just at home with their feet
Speaker 8: up while their wives are all over town looking for John.
Speaker 5: Don't you think that's a little odd?
Speaker 3: You're about Matt, Matt McCabe.
Speaker 8: Matt McCabe and Carrie.
Speaker 5: Robert's husband.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just laid in bed. Yeah, he just laid in bed.
Speaker 3: He just kind of banged up, like you know, they
Speaker 3: can't find John and you'll help, and he's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: and I think she was pissed and you can shovel
Speaker 3: the driveway find yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, But you want another one, another one, You want
Speaker 2: another one about Karen calling Higgins after the next morning,
Speaker 2: So why don't you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So my point. My point is is that I
Speaker 8: think it was around just before, around noontime, Karen sent
Speaker 8: a text to John I mean, I'm sorry, to Higgins
Speaker 8: saying John died, and then from there on Higgins did
Speaker 8: not reply. He had his opportunity to now come to
Speaker 8: her rescue, to ask why to be her knight in
Speaker 8: Shining Armor, and he just ghosted her. So now the
Speaker 8: competition's gone and this woman needs some consoling and Nope,
Speaker 8: that's when that's when Higgey decides, Oh she's no longer,
Speaker 8: I'm not interested.
Speaker 5: Her partner's gone.
Speaker 3: Like, yes, the week before he was trying to hit
Speaker 3: it exactly right, exactly right. So that's huge consciousness of guilt.
Speaker 3: He totally ghosted her after that, you know, not even
Speaker 3: like how he died.
Speaker 8: Right, the curiosity like what happened?
Speaker 5: How is he dead?
Speaker 8: Like how did he die? Not even in an inquiry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he because he knew he was there.
Speaker 5: He was part of it.
Speaker 3: Here's the other one.
Speaker 2: Good if you could read this one.
Speaker 3: Mike Pigs first first said he was going to do
Speaker 3: an administry of duties. Then he said he was going to
Speaker 3: move the cars, but he said he was going home
Speaker 3: said he wasn't on the phone. But now we've video
Speaker 3: show him on the phones. Yeah, everything you're saying is right,
Speaker 3: Jay Uh he changed the story. You know, the word
Speaker 3: the scene could be the kid in police about it.
Speaker 3: It could be thirty four five of you. It could
Speaker 3: be Karen's house. It could be one mettal when they
Speaker 3: say we arrived at the scene to do duties. You know,
Speaker 3: administrative could mean moving cars, it could mean doing paperwork.
Speaker 3: But one thirty in the morning, bro, And now they
Speaker 3: got you on film on a phone call. What you
Speaker 3: said you denied, you never did, and then you admit
Speaker 3: to having a conversation with h ATF agent Matthew Welch.
Speaker 3: You went to the kiosks. He shows you how to
Speaker 3: take out certain tests, lead certain tests, then you submit evidence.
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, come on, I mean, what what what's
Speaker 3: going on here? Reasonable doubt? Hammer it, hammer it all.
Speaker 3: You had these six witnesses last time, right, hopefully they
Speaker 3: get sixteen up there. Sixteen really good with a tow
Speaker 3: truck driver right coming up on board. They got him
Speaker 3: on the witness list. I mean, there's a bunch of
Speaker 3: people coming up on board that they should like spend
Speaker 3: more time with Kerry Roberts. Didn't even cross examiner last time.
Speaker 3: They didn't even cross examiner what she was at the
Speaker 3: cost she was at the scene. You know, I would
Speaker 3: also look for a nurse that actually check checked John in.
Speaker 3: What are the abulance drivers say to the nurses at
Speaker 3: Good Samaritan at the time of arrival? Was it a
Speaker 3: was it a domestic violence? Which was reported at first
Speaker 3: till ten o'clock in the morning they changed it right?
Speaker 3: And then, so is that what they told you when
Speaker 3: you dropped them off to this course, because that means
Speaker 3: that I hit him. I hit him, I hit him
Speaker 3: and never gave him to play, because that's what was
Speaker 3: said at the crench in the morning to those firefighters. Now,
Speaker 3: if I was a firefighter and I'm dropping that person
Speaker 3: off and I'm talking to a nurse, I'm gonna say
Speaker 3: he was hit by a car, the suspect, and you
Speaker 3: know we got on. They told three of us, but no,
Speaker 3: they let her, They let her leave, They let drive away,
Speaker 3: of course, right like.
Speaker 2: They would go up to the police and go, wait,
Speaker 2: she just said she did it right.
Speaker 5: On any report?
Speaker 3: Nothing nothing, nothing. So I want to talk to you.
Speaker 3: The iron that was in shots that morning, who took
Speaker 3: who actually put the bracelet? John, who talked to the
Speaker 3: not all, who talked to Katie McLoughlin. What was the
Speaker 3: actual words? We could see them fill them. Who came
Speaker 3: in with him? I want to know what was said.
Speaker 3: Did he say it was a DV? Unknown? Because if
Speaker 3: they say that at that point, it's friction in their minds.
Speaker 3: A half an hour ago that someone just said that
Speaker 3: I hit him, my head him, I hit him, And
Speaker 3: they're pretty confident about that they set out if they
Speaker 3: said it now. But you know, show me that the
Speaker 3: actual word chine of custody. Right, we'll talk about word like,
Speaker 3: did he say that when you get dropped off at
Speaker 3: the hospital. Okay, you're saying that it happened at the
Speaker 3: thirty fourth FAU, but she's she's saying that it was
Speaker 3: a DV when you guys dropped out, there was nothing
Speaker 3: about a car back again to him. Okay, if Sarah
Speaker 3: had heard those words, I would think the cuffs would
Speaker 3: have been coming out. She would have been in a
Speaker 3: car one hundred percent. Right, there's nobody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have gone up to the police and
Speaker 2: said this lady, the girlfriend just said that she hit him.
Speaker 5: And don't forget.
Speaker 8: Somebody also said he looks like he went five rounds
Speaker 8: with Tyson, so they thought initially this was a domestic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul brother Paul said that his brother Paul said
Speaker 3: that at the hospital, not knowing what they do at
Speaker 3: the time. They all leave the hospital. Karen's in the
Speaker 3: psych word for a little while. Guess who calls Won
Speaker 3: Meadows who? Jen mckaid she started manipulating from that point on,
Speaker 3: was it in touch? It was in touch? Was in
Speaker 3: touch with Kery Robinson for the rest of the day.
Speaker 3: You could see the times, I think it was four
Speaker 3: or five times, twenty minutes, twenty five minutes, whatever it was,
Speaker 3: getting it straight. But she planted the seed of what
Speaker 3: happened inside of Missus o'keef and then Paul o'keef as well.
Speaker 3: Paul O'Keefe's first initial reaction was he went five rounds
Speaker 3: of Tyson, which you would look like that, if you
Speaker 3: even got up off the floor, you would get smashed
Speaker 3: like that. And he did go a couple of minutes
Speaker 3: with some people, you know, not a person but people,
Speaker 3: and fell backwards, unfortunately, and he's no longer with us,
Speaker 3: but I believe it comes down to the kids, the
Speaker 3: niece and nephew. John had him. He took them from
Speaker 3: the grand out took them from the grandparents, but he
Speaker 3: had custody of them. Paul didn't want them. John had
Speaker 3: the house, sold it to one meadows, went off the streets,
Speaker 3: went to a nine to five, putting bracelets on sex offenders.
Speaker 3: He was doing all the right things. I think the
Speaker 3: image Missus O'Keefe's head of Karen actually maybe being a
Speaker 3: stepmom and the kids talking about Karen to the grandmother
Speaker 3: all the time, Oh, we just got haircuts and we
Speaker 3: got these new oug boots, or Karen brought us. This
Speaker 3: didn't sit well with her. You know, she's not she's
Speaker 3: not blood, she's not married, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: She's just John's girlfriend. But for two years she was
Speaker 3: a girl there and she was what people would say,
Speaker 3: a babysit with a babysitter with benefits. But that's how
Speaker 3: John just rolled with his whole fit all his girlfriends.
Speaker 3: I introduced him to one of his girlfriends. That's how
Speaker 3: he rolls, just the way he is. He's an Irish
Speaker 3: blow steam off. Karen says, he just likes to blow
Speaker 3: steam off because he's you know, if he's on the force.
Speaker 3: But uh to Karen then to show up and I
Speaker 3: had missus o'keef say, it looks like he was hit
Speaker 3: by a karl. Why'd you leave him there? That caught
Speaker 3: Karen off. God right there. She goes up, gets her
Speaker 3: things and leaves with her father. That's why she felt uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: She's stilling the room out like this is what's going on?
Speaker 3: She didn't know the jendy called right. So then she
Speaker 3: gets to the car with her dad, and dad's driving
Speaker 3: a car. No one's seen a broken tail life by
Speaker 3: the way, yet they've all walked by it a bunch
Speaker 3: of times. You know, someone's you know out there that
Speaker 3: bringing videos gone though we don't know where that went allegedly,
Speaker 3: uh Texas Higgins, John Dike ghost. That's a tell. That's
Speaker 3: a huge tell right there, because inquiry, especially an ETF
Speaker 3: agent that was just with them six hours ago. Your
Speaker 3: police mind should have kicked in. Your natural spidy sensor
Speaker 3: shouldn't be going, what do you need? What happened? I
Speaker 3: was just with him? Are you okay? So I can
Speaker 3: I come over and rub your shoulders tonight? What do
Speaker 3: you what you know? What do you need? You know,
Speaker 3: I'm here for you. Nothing, not a not a peep. Nothing.
Speaker 2: Everything they did leads to what you would expect a
Speaker 2: guilty behaviors of a guilty person, every single one of them.
Speaker 2: And then the prosecution is just like what what I mean?
Speaker 2: I mean, ladies and gentlemen, the dr how could this
Speaker 2: possibly be guilty? Every single thing are prosecutor's dreams. Let
Speaker 2: me have you answered this one from Stacey Q? Then
Speaker 2: I have something I want to say, and then I
Speaker 2: have a question for you.
Speaker 3: To Colin, walk and run to the high school, be picked,
Speaker 3: play alley, yes, be a yes, I think so.
Speaker 5: I think so too.
Speaker 8: Isn't there a path behind the house too?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Someone put that on on here esday. I also want
Speaker 2: to welcome jay Z to the show. I want to
Speaker 2: say I really like your music.
Speaker 3: I like your wife's music.
Speaker 2: And for me personally, I have ninety nine problems.
Speaker 3: But bea A and one. So that's that was horrible.
Speaker 3: That was bad?
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, thank you for giving us that boom Mike.
Speaker 8: That's your thing, and I love when you go when
Speaker 8: you say that.
Speaker 3: The boom baby. Yeah, when people are right. I used
Speaker 3: to like leave like because I like to leave trails
Speaker 3: like you're on the right path. But I want you
Speaker 3: to think for yourself how this happened. Like I would
Speaker 3: leave an apple like, oh, good job, Like you picked
Speaker 3: that one up. You're smart, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And things that like I I picked up. I have
Speaker 3: people that I follow are very smart. You know that.
Speaker 3: Think this threw through and as you get into the.
Speaker 2: Sugar, I'm just kidding, please continue.
Speaker 3: Are you are you still in character? I don't know
Speaker 3: what's going.
Speaker 5: He only boomed me. Okay, only one.
Speaker 3: Bubble for the both things, all right? But uh, I
Speaker 3: just how the stories are locked in for this trial too,
Speaker 3: from the previous testimonies from the grand jury. So how
Speaker 3: many times did they testify? They testified with the police reports,
Speaker 3: that testified with the state police, the state gran injury,
Speaker 3: then the federal granjury, and then in court five different
Speaker 3: times they had to stay the story. Now you have
Speaker 3: Bob Alici up there, who is a sniper. He's the
Speaker 3: guy two hard feet three feet away behind the bush,
Speaker 3: wait for you to see the wrong word, and when
Speaker 3: you do, he knows it's coming. They're gonna try to
Speaker 3: walk you into that trap and they're gonna shut the
Speaker 3: door on you, you know, and Ali won't be able
Speaker 3: to handle it. No way, no way, She'll break And
Speaker 3: to have the kids go back on the stand again
Speaker 3: is something I completely disagree with. Another tell to me
Speaker 3: was when Higgins mentioned that he broke the controller for
Speaker 3: the nephew playing polaystation. He almost went to tears. And
Speaker 3: I can tell you why. He has a niece and
Speaker 3: nephew where his sister passed away that he possibly could
Speaker 3: have taken but decided not to, and they went to
Speaker 3: his mother, and he reret's not doing that as a
Speaker 3: big uncle because he had a good relationship whose sister
Speaker 3: lived in Canton by the way and passed away. He
Speaker 3: had a chance to take these kids in for adoption
Speaker 3: as an uncle, but kicked the can to his mother
Speaker 3: to take them. And so I think the connection mean
Speaker 3: the nephew and him had was strong and they were
Speaker 3: playing games. He almost came to tears when he was
Speaker 3: talking with those poor kids losing their uncle John. And
Speaker 3: that was a tell for me. Another big tell. He
Speaker 3: couldn't keep it composed. He's got he's got so much
Speaker 3: guilt he's got you can see it in him. He's
Speaker 3: just haunt. He's he's a he's a broken person, you know,
Speaker 3: and broken people like to break people. And uh, Brian
Speaker 3: Albert and stone cold man, his stone cold, stone cold dude.
Speaker 3: He's just like you had the job to do was
Speaker 3: get it done. No feelings, no emotions. Brian's a little
Speaker 3: bit more emotional, Higgins. And uh, if they could key
Speaker 3: onto that, I mean, who brings an attorney with them
Speaker 3: to a trial?
Speaker 2: Who calls into a radio show like the JFK show
Speaker 2: that that shows some sort of consciousness of guilt.
Speaker 3: You're wrong, wrong, decorative dude. So my point is that
Speaker 3: you we're probably not going to get in a quittal.
Speaker 3: I would love you get it, but there's no way
Speaker 3: she's gonna spend the night in jail.
Speaker 2: Ever, they don't have any evidence, so there's no way
Speaker 2: they could get twelve people to convict her. So I
Speaker 2: am not even worried about that.
Speaker 3: So are mad?
Speaker 2: Kelly says, Does anyone remember Yanette as saying a guy
Speaker 2: named Mike and told him they should look into the
Speaker 2: Albit house.
Speaker 5: It was on the id doc Ye, the idea.
Speaker 2: They said scandalon. But do you know who that guy
Speaker 2: Mike is?
Speaker 8: So I guess that's the name he gave when he
Speaker 8: initially called Yanetti.
Speaker 3: All right, I don't, I don't. We'll leave that one alone.
Speaker 3: Next question, next question, next question. The small the weird
Speaker 3: part about this whole thing for me is that I
Speaker 3: knew the father, the son, Paul, and John. I played
Speaker 3: basketball with all three of them, so I know they're
Speaker 3: how they work as a family of brothers and father.
Speaker 3: Like the dynamic. Like Paul is an athlete, he's quarterback
Speaker 3: of Green Treek back to Stone Hills. He married his waitress,
Speaker 3: Aaron was his waitress out of the bar down the street.
Speaker 3: That's how they met and stuff, and so I know
Speaker 3: how he works. He's always been the guy digged inn
Speaker 3: on campus, you know all this stuff, and uh, I
Speaker 3: just feel like he's under so much pressure and he's
Speaker 3: Tully was one of his linemen in college. Yeah, wow, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: he usually offensive lineman on the college form. So if
Speaker 3: you're in a locker room and you probably didn't play sports,
Speaker 3: and you are a brother or brother, do you go
Speaker 3: but you go, you tell me something, all Right, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna fight for that extra five yards for you if
Speaker 3: you get to block that guy the outside. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: quarterback that's gonna come up on me, and you take
Speaker 3: care of him. I'll get that extra five yards the
Speaker 3: first down. That's how I think they feel like. You're
Speaker 3: telling me the truth, Tully. You're telling me that's how
Speaker 3: it happened. All right, I believe you. You're a teammate,
Speaker 3: will go way back to stone Hill. I love you, Bro,
Speaker 3: I love you, bro. And Tully has.
Speaker 2: Him, Well, let me get him, let me let me
Speaker 2: chi him in here. Because I did play football team
Speaker 2: college and a lot of my teammates are law enforcement officers.
Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah. And I will tell you that I
Speaker 2: would I would dime somebody out. Uh if I thought
Speaker 2: that they if if I didn't believe them, there's got
Speaker 2: there's a line somewhere, and to me that line, you've
Speaker 2: crossed that line.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're my teammate or not. If
Speaker 2: I thought that you're involved in the covering up of killing,
Speaker 2: and I common sense, I can put all these different
Speaker 2: facts that you've been outlining here together. I'm sorry. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna just say, ah, well, that guy died and
Speaker 2: you're my teammates, so it's okay. There's a point where
Speaker 2: that's not going to go and and these guys are
Speaker 2: way past.
Speaker 3: That is police, all right. And you see in Joe,
Speaker 3: I mean in Paul's interview with Christina rex Is that
Speaker 3: how did you how did you know it was Karada?
Speaker 3: Or we just had a feeling what you had a
Speaker 3: feeling that it was hurt. That's really when she came
Speaker 3: back from the hospital and was in the kitchen, we
Speaker 3: all kind of felt, yeah, it was it was her. Now, Paul,
Speaker 3: stop man, really and I believe mister O'Keeffe knows knows
Speaker 3: the truth. He used to spend some go to church
Speaker 3: with Karen on Sundays. John Wood you go, but his
Speaker 3: father would go.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: There's a connection that when I talk about he's a plumber,
Speaker 3: he's a blue collar guy. Uh. Good he was. He
Speaker 3: had a good shot. He doesn't look like how I
Speaker 3: used to remember him. He does look a little tired
Speaker 3: and I don't know if he's talking a lot, but
Speaker 3: from what they here, there's two different addresses now. Paul's
Speaker 3: at one Meadows, rip the street from me with Missus O'Keefe,
Speaker 3: the grandmother living at one Meadows, and mister O'Keefe senior
Speaker 3: is at Braintree Aaron o'keef is in Bridgewater. So if
Speaker 3: you look at the addresses for the witnesses, they're completely different. Now, Paul,
Speaker 3: you know, stress can do a lot of things to
Speaker 3: a lot of people, gamble, drinking, drugs, women, whatever. We
Speaker 3: all have different devices at one time in our life.
Speaker 3: Paul was an online person that had sympathy for him
Speaker 3: or what said the right words to him, whatever, and
Speaker 3: he exposed himself completely unfortunately, and it made him look
Speaker 3: like a person with more with without a moral compass.
Speaker 3: I'll say that didn't know the words about the kids,
Speaker 3: his own kids. Was was frightening to me? That was
Speaker 3: that was frightening, like wow, you know so uh? That
Speaker 3: to me tells you that he's jilted the mother and
Speaker 3: the son that sitting next to each other for comfortence,
Speaker 3: support and love, like the Reed family. You see the
Speaker 3: reads all lined up together like a family. You look across,
Speaker 3: you see one and one at the other side, and
Speaker 3: no communication, no nothing. The only one supporting missus Keith.
Speaker 3: Are they her sister in laws or her sisters, whoever
Speaker 3: they are. Paul sitting there alone on an island, trying
Speaker 3: to feel this out. I can't imagine what's going through
Speaker 3: his head? And I know they did this test at
Speaker 3: One Meadows and they backed out the car to show
Speaker 3: Paul and the LETSUS trooper. Paul showed up Paul o'keef
Speaker 3: how it she couldn't have hit his car right, and
Speaker 3: they were asked if they wanted the video footage of that.
Speaker 3: The defense and said, you know, skim outs are fine,
Speaker 3: let's take the skim out of it because it's actually
Speaker 3: impossible the way you're trying to explain it to. Paul
Speaker 3: had Paul o'keif at One Meadows after the trial to
Speaker 3: show him how the Lexus couldn't have hit the the
Speaker 3: traverse that actually happened.
Speaker 2: Well, except for the that we saw it on video
Speaker 2: other than that part right right, and we saw the
Speaker 2: wheel of the traverse move. Other than that, it couldn't
Speaker 2: have happened. Other than the fact that it happened and
Speaker 2: we saw it on video, it couldn't have happened. Okay,
Speaker 2: So it tells me.
Speaker 3: So we have this juror jury. You know, they came back,
Speaker 3: you know, acquittal, acquittal. Paul's got emotions evolved in this
Speaker 3: more than anybody. And then you have these jurors on emotional,
Speaker 3: unemotional as as he is. His emotions are controlling his thoughts,
Speaker 3: which is very promment with people. You get skin emotional
Speaker 3: more a loved one in shock. But by this time
Speaker 3: in my life, two or three years later, I should
Speaker 3: have all those dots in my head exactly. The timeline
Speaker 3: is written down. What's going on? Who said what? I'd
Speaker 3: be all over with this. I wouldn't be getting hammered
Speaker 3: the night before the first opening statement and being open
Speaker 3: about that until four in the morning, and not saying
Speaker 3: I might have been drunk when even on the stand,
Speaker 3: that's what you want to be proud about. And then
Speaker 3: to let yourself open like that, exposed to someone you've
Speaker 3: never met before, I ever met before. It's strange to
Speaker 3: be right like it's almost like the pressure has cracked him.
Speaker 3: It has, it has.
Speaker 2: And it seems like John has exposed himself in more
Speaker 2: ways than one.
Speaker 5: John you mean Paul.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm sorry, Paul O'Keefe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, Unfortunately I can always say this. I
Speaker 3: grew up in the eighties and if I had a
Speaker 3: cell phone, shit would have been with all right, I
Speaker 3: was gonna say, moving on, moving on.
Speaker 2: What I really want to do, though, is because you
Speaker 2: are one of the unique people in this case, Mike,
Speaker 2: because you actually have heard John O'Keefe's voice. You know
Speaker 2: John O'Keeffe. Ninety nine percent of the people listening here,
Speaker 2: including the two of us, do not know John O'Keeffe.
Speaker 2: Could you please tell us about John O'Keeffe.
Speaker 3: Of course, sure. So I'm a big basketball player. I
Speaker 3: was in my early twenties. John was like fifth moon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so if he was so, if he was fifteen, I
Speaker 3: was twenty two, okay, So playing hoops, we played in
Speaker 3: Quincy at the Salvation Army. I was a four and
Speaker 3: four league, and so we would get there make teams up,
Speaker 3: and Pollock play and John playing, and the father play,
Speaker 3: and all their friends who play, and I'd played. I
Speaker 3: was probably one of the better players, one of the
Speaker 3: other players at the time. His father would pulled me
Speaker 3: aside and say, and you used to really beat on him.
Speaker 3: I was growing quick. He was getting bigger, and he
Speaker 3: was skinny and stuff. But so he would tell me,
Speaker 3: when you're playing Deth pushing like pushing, like I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna push him down. Well, all right, at least try
Speaker 3: to block it, you know. I'm like Okay, I'll do
Speaker 3: whatever I can. And then he's a very competitive person.
Speaker 3: John and Uh we would play till we get there
Speaker 3: at five. We played at like nine o'clock at night.
Speaker 3: We played one on ones, playing one on ones. So
Speaker 3: fast forward. I introduced him to one of his girlfriends
Speaker 3: he dates for a while, so I hear all the
Speaker 3: stories from her about how the how they had a
Speaker 3: good time. He was actually his partner at the time
Speaker 3: with Patrick that was in uh Boston Cop that is
Speaker 3: no longer with us. He's unlived. Uh that's another story
Speaker 3: for another time. So I was involved at that part
Speaker 3: of it, uh because what she had told me, like
Speaker 3: how untrue that what was? And he's such a nice guy.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it happened. So, Uh, he dates them,
Speaker 3: they break up, he's never getting married. I find out
Speaker 3: about the kids and stuff.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: He tells me the whole story, and I'm just like
Speaker 3: blown away. I'm playing hoop. He's got he's working still,
Speaker 3: so he doesn't want to play hoop anymore. And he's
Speaker 3: go only be he's a father, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: He's a father. He's a single dad basically going through
Speaker 3: Canton and he's got two great kids. He loves a
Speaker 3: lot and just I'll give you for instance, like I
Speaker 3: have his numbers still, I just ben Mo Still. My
Speaker 3: wife who has a is a fast driver. She and
Speaker 3: she works in Cambridge and we live in Canton, so
Speaker 3: she cuts through Milton and all these back roads. In
Speaker 3: one week she got two screen tickets from a state trooper.
Speaker 3: The same trooper on the same road in the same
Speaker 3: week gave her two tickets on one phone call to John.
Speaker 3: They were taken care of in less than a day. Wow.
Speaker 3: So that's the type of guy. Yeah. Yeah, if you're
Speaker 3: friends with him, you have friends with him for life.
Speaker 3: No matter what you need, if it was a Boston
Speaker 3: ticket or whatever, he would make that. He was that
Speaker 3: guy at the office that if you knew him, he
Speaker 3: knew all the ticket because he was working inside with
Speaker 3: the bracelets and stuff. He was a nine to five
Speaker 3: on the desk. He wasn't out on the streets, but
Speaker 3: he was like a go between State Boston pe because
Speaker 3: if a state cap had a problem with the Boston
Speaker 3: PD ticket, go the other way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: He would. He was well known and he knew Patrick
Speaker 3: at the time that was no longer with us, and
Speaker 3: uh so he got rid of those tickets. I'm just like,
Speaker 3: and so I'll never forget the second time I had
Speaker 3: a calm, I had to call him again the same week,
Speaker 3: the same week, and he's like, what I go, You're
Speaker 3: not gonna tell him the whole story. He's like, he listen,
Speaker 3: tell you my wife to slow down. I'll take care
Speaker 3: of it. I'll talk to you later. Click. You know,
Speaker 3: just that's just the way. Like he was like a
Speaker 3: brother that you don't talk to every like everywhere every
Speaker 3: couple of months, and he's picked the phone up. You
Speaker 3: pick up right way you left off, because you had to.
Speaker 3: It was personality. He knew mine. You know, he's busted
Speaker 3: my chops. I busted his shops. I had no idea
Speaker 3: we lived in the same town until he passed away,
Speaker 3: really no idea. So yeah, so we never talked about
Speaker 3: where we were living. I was living and can he
Speaker 3: was living. Let's than a quarter mile away from at
Speaker 3: the time. His good friend Mike Camarado lives four houses
Speaker 3: away from me right now at the end of my road. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know Mike, yep, I know his wife, I know
Speaker 3: the kids. I walked by these with my dogs every
Speaker 3: single day, and there didn't know Mike knew John. I
Speaker 3: had no idea that Mike and John were friends until
Speaker 3: the trial and I see him up on the stand.
Speaker 3: I go, that's that's my neighbor. That's Mike. It was weird, dude.
Speaker 3: It was just like it was almost like John was
Speaker 3: like up there going, dude, wake up, wake up, help
Speaker 3: me out here. I need you. You know, some sly
Speaker 3: shit went down, need your help. That's why I jumped in.
Speaker 3: I said, this is this is way odd. Because I
Speaker 3: heard about the ring camera from jail for they got
Speaker 3: an own film. I'm like, oh, this is my god,
Speaker 3: what happened? You know? And that went away. Then I'm
Speaker 3: like and then Turtle Boy Boom was on. I started
Speaker 3: going to standouts, I started getting involved. I was at
Speaker 3: Stoton District Court fortin I've never done anything of that
Speaker 3: in my life. John, and and once the corruption started
Speaker 3: I could see it for myself. I got even got
Speaker 3: more involved in the and that you know, my time,
Speaker 3: my energy. I never thought of a million, as you
Speaker 3: told me last year, i'd be doing a YouTube channel
Speaker 3: with you guys. You know, I would just wouldn't a
Speaker 3: thought of it. But it's just the way my life
Speaker 3: is gone, and uh uh, and I'm happy I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: And I don't get paid to do any of the stuff.
Speaker 3: I'd do it for my own just free will and
Speaker 3: whatever bit I can give to my heart and my
Speaker 3: time my mind, I'll give it to John in the
Speaker 3: second because he went through hell. Man, you got we
Speaker 3: went through hell that night, and no one deserves to
Speaker 3: go out like that. Is there a funny story we
Speaker 3: haven't heard about? Og? Oh, yeah, you'd like to talk
Speaker 3: shit all the time when we're playing basketball in my Yeah,
Speaker 3: and push me with his shop elbow and like just
Speaker 3: push me down, push me down, and I'll tell you
Speaker 3: he had a certain type of girl. They like all
Speaker 3: of his girlfriends were made built the same look like legit,
Speaker 3: he dated what he did one of these triplets that
Speaker 3: I knew, and they all have the sand and then
Speaker 3: you know, and she was a good girl. She her
Speaker 3: follow was a cop. So she's now dating a cap.
Speaker 3: It's like kind of like a this cop fetish thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what the bad badge
Speaker 3: of punnies they call. I don't know. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: would hear I would like it'd be funny because they
Speaker 3: would go drinking and she would tell me on Monday,
Speaker 3: like what they did Saturday night and stuff, and like
Speaker 3: the stuff that they get away with with that badge.
Speaker 3: What they do with that thing sometimes going out Salthi
Speaker 3: or in town, or something happens with a car accident.
Speaker 3: I'll just say that John was in a car accident
Speaker 3: one time. Told his car in Boston. He was able
Speaker 3: to get out of that because of a couple of saspies,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and walk away no harm
Speaker 3: following Boston, got just way out of it. Yep. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: told him, Yeah, he told him he wrecked it in
Speaker 3: Palla and scared him. That's the thing about John. It'll
Speaker 3: happened once he won't it won't happen again, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. That was a bad mistake. I could
Speaker 3: have lost my job. I could have killed somebody. Uh
Speaker 3: you know this is time. Who I am? Maybe I
Speaker 3: should stop slowly down on the partying a little bit,
Speaker 3: but man, he'd like to have a good time. So
Speaker 3: then when he gets older, we're playing hope. We offer
Speaker 3: beers a couple of times when he's when he's old
Speaker 3: enough and stuff. But that's how it was with me.
Speaker 3: It was more like a big brother. Hey, it's up
Speaker 3: in the head. Uh yeah. So when you when you
Speaker 3: go into a locker room and you you shower and
Speaker 3: you're talking all this ship you're getting ready to go
Speaker 3: out whatever. Obviously he was going home to go to school.
Speaker 3: I was doing my thing. It's just, you know, he's
Speaker 3: like a little brother to me. Pino Is. You know,
Speaker 3: it was weird and then then uh is uh so
Speaker 3: that's how I think about it, you know, and uh
Speaker 3: having them come in and out of my life at
Speaker 3: different times in my life, and you know, not talk
Speaker 3: to him for a year or two, then talk to
Speaker 3: him for a year. We catch it like that, like
Speaker 3: it was like a broth thing like I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: He walked up the hallway to go go do something.
Speaker 3: He came walking right back to my office. He goes,
Speaker 3: who's that girl out there? I walked him right out
Speaker 3: here and I introduced some next thing the door. He
Speaker 3: shift back into my office the little way we're gonna
Speaker 3: go Saturday night. I go, oh okay. And it was
Speaker 3: you know, if that went out for like a year
Speaker 3: or two, off and on whenever, these kids in this
Speaker 3: twenties he's a cop. He's six two, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Every like he's like, yeah, you know, he's
Speaker 3: living with the had a roommate. They were like living
Speaker 3: in Southeast life, the life, and then then the stuff
Speaker 3: happened with his sister. And his sister was the best
Speaker 3: basketball player out of the wall. She had a full
Speaker 3: ride at Province or you or I feel which one
Speaker 3: it was your province. She was the best basketball player
Speaker 3: out of the boys. So that was that was interesting. Curious.
Speaker 3: I there's a good question should I have started up above?
Speaker 2: That'd like to ask you by Brian Albitt. But before
Speaker 2: I do that, some curious with regards to John, where
Speaker 2: do you think this relationship if we're sitting on April second,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, this John and Karen up and down relationship,
Speaker 2: where do you think we are today?
Speaker 3: Twenty four, twenty five twenty.
Speaker 2: Sorry, twenty twenty five. I'm a year behind, thank you,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: No worries. I just want to be sure i'd give
Speaker 3: you the right answer, because, yes, sir, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't think the way I know John. I don't think
Speaker 3: it goes on. But John's at he's forty six, a
Speaker 3: time he started thinking, Yes, things change in your brain,
Speaker 3: Chemicals changed in your brains, brain plural brains, and things
Speaker 3: not to change. And you're looking at it for two
Speaker 3: other people besides yourself now that are getting attached to it.
Speaker 3: On the person that you brought into their life. John
Speaker 3: chose to bring Karen into his life. John chose to
Speaker 3: introduce those children to her. It's gonna be reciprocal. She's
Speaker 3: gonna love them. They're gonna love her all right, just
Speaker 3: the way the world works. And I think John's John
Speaker 3: was growing up, he realized what was going on. I
Speaker 3: think it could have been something, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: put words in anybody's mouth. I wasn't there for that stuff.
Speaker 3: And you know, I didn't know about it. I didn't
Speaker 3: know if the drink it was bad. That's what they
Speaker 3: did every weekend. And you know, I've heard the things about,
Speaker 3: you know, Higgins being over the house and the Ruba trips.
Speaker 3: You know, every marriage, every couple goes through something. You know, uh,
Speaker 3: good batter and different, good batter and different. I think
Speaker 3: every couple that makes it through it, they're stronger together
Speaker 3: depending on what that problem might be for that person.
Speaker 3: If it's just too much of this work, too much play,
Speaker 3: too much. Whatever it might be, if it doesn't make
Speaker 3: you stronger, it makes you better. Those are just normal
Speaker 3: in and out of a marriage. We asked any married couple.
Speaker 3: Yet we almost didn't make it. You hear all the time, no,
Speaker 3: no ever says we had the We've never had a
Speaker 3: word in life, never had a problem. The people excuse me,
Speaker 3: so I don't. I don't want to put words in
Speaker 3: my mouth. But John at the time was a marrying guy.
Speaker 3: He was at that point in his life where I
Speaker 3: think he could have said, you know what, Yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: straighten out and we see how this goes for another
Speaker 3: year or so. Karen might have been done with him.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what she was thinking.
Speaker 3: It sounds like she was pretty at the at the
Speaker 3: end if he didn't change, like if he wasn't going
Speaker 3: to change, she was gonna be my right. And if
Speaker 3: he wasn't going to change and show any type of
Speaker 3: you know, effort to make it change about when he
Speaker 3: was living, how how he was living his life, and
Speaker 3: who he was hanging around with. Because she she has
Speaker 3: mentioned that by Usmosis she was brought into these groups
Speaker 3: of people of going out and cops and robbers and
Speaker 3: all this other stuff. I think if she could do
Speaker 3: things different, she probably would have and not been involved
Speaker 3: with those types of people. I think she's high classed.
Speaker 3: I think she's better than John. She you know, I
Speaker 3: always told to marry someone better than me, and you do.
Speaker 3: Just try to marry someone that's gonna and stimulate you
Speaker 3: intellectually and take you on a journey that you've never
Speaker 3: had before. And I think, yeah, I think John found
Speaker 3: that in Karen. But Karen, I think was finding out
Speaker 3: slowly that you know, I don't want to do this
Speaker 3: the way we're doing it for the next five ten
Speaker 3: years of our lives. Stop the way along with my life.
Speaker 3: But you've got children involved. How many people stay together
Speaker 3: for the kids that don't get divorce that maybe should have, right,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they would marriage to the hip like that,
Speaker 3: which is good. She's like that. They weren't my kids.
Speaker 3: And she can. She's a smart girl. She can partneralize
Speaker 3: feelings and put them back, the work through them and
Speaker 3: get through with her family and a higher spirit and
Speaker 3: talk about these things which Paul's not doing. But you know,
Speaker 3: Peggy's not. I don't know what they're doing. How do
Speaker 3: you handle that kind of pressure? Waking up every day
Speaker 3: you have a murder charge hanging over your head and
Speaker 3: you're gotta get up and be in a court roomt
Speaker 3: nine o'clock or something. You didn't didn't do that, my friend, That,
Speaker 3: my friend, is strength, and that comes within within, and
Speaker 3: it comes from the family who you surround yourself with.
Speaker 3: Surround yourself with positive people, with winners in your life.
Speaker 3: You will end up being that way. You keep on
Speaker 3: surrounding yourself with people that get into alcohol, drugs, not
Speaker 3: sure you know that kind of thing, you're gonna You're
Speaker 3: gonna turn into that person. I think both of them
Speaker 3: were smart enough to figure that out and to change
Speaker 3: their life, but I don't know. I wish they would
Speaker 3: have been together. It kind of kind of cool if
Speaker 3: they made it in life, because I think I'm selfish.
Speaker 3: I think about the kids. If the kids were attached
Speaker 3: to Karen the way I think they were, and like
Speaker 3: anybody would be attached to Karen. How much love did
Speaker 3: she get walking down the sidewalk, how much love cheering
Speaker 3: did she get? And then don't even know who she is?
Speaker 3: They just know the case, right, these kids knew her.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 8: She brought stability to these kids' lives.
Speaker 3: And everybody needs a mother figure in their life, everybody does.
Speaker 3: You know? I was lucky to have my mom my
Speaker 3: whole life. I didn't have to deal with that type
Speaker 3: of things. But you will. You grow up a different
Speaker 3: way if you don't, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, ned igree
Speaker 3: with one hundred percent. Everybody's have problems, you know, except
Speaker 3: for me, I'm perfect, okay, of.
Speaker 2: Course, aside from you though, most people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually counseled couples on weekends at a bar.
Speaker 3: I'm just so Go see dive bar pizza, Go see Mike.
Speaker 3: It's a free family and marriage counseling.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is buy him a beer
Speaker 2: and like a Pepperoni pizza.
Speaker 3: People hate the word therapy, are or anything like that. Okay,
Speaker 3: if you don't want to go see a professional PhD
Speaker 3: therapist or you know, psychologists or whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call that person, do we rather sit next to uh
Speaker 3: the guy at the bar big Al's right and ask him, way,
Speaker 3: what should do? How did you handle this thing? No? Thanks, man, No,
Speaker 3: I want the want the docmentus degree on the wall
Speaker 3: that's telling me you're actually no, no, she's actually right. You
Speaker 3: gotta spin that around and look at it from her eyes.
Speaker 3: And you know, I can tell you honestly, you know,
Speaker 3: face the face, that therapy has changed me completely as
Speaker 3: a human being. Because I was and I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, alpha type A and I had a tone
Speaker 3: that back man, because I had married one like out
Speaker 3: two hours you got to go like this right, So
Speaker 3: I was like, I was just like, you know what,
Speaker 3: work was stressing me out. She was her idea, don't
Speaker 3: you go. I'm like my brother. I don't touch my brother.
Speaker 3: I did right. It was the best thing I ever did.
Speaker 3: And guys, trust me when I tell you you don't
Speaker 3: tell anybody to do it. But you know what I'm
Speaker 3: telling you because it saved my life in a certain way,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I just I feel like,
Speaker 3: if you're smart enough to figure out that someone that's
Speaker 3: smarter than you that can tell you how to fix things,
Speaker 3: you do it. You don't take it from big Al's
Speaker 3: bar the claim she with the white law, No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: just sleep on the couch, that you'd be fine. Let's
Speaker 3: talk about the morning. Oh the one thing I've learned
Speaker 3: in life is you don't go to bed mad at
Speaker 3: each other. Just don't.
Speaker 2: I would never do that, Okay, I might have done
Speaker 2: that a couple of times. First of all, we have
Speaker 2: something we want to tackle from miss Jessica and Busy here.
Speaker 2: Her brother was red Rum. She says, we never got justice,
Speaker 2: and my parents' family never acted like the o'keefesh. And
Speaker 2: then I had a friend, a high school classmate, was
Speaker 2: murdered about two weeks ago. We covered that on the
Speaker 2: show last week. So yeah, I'm I do feel bad
Speaker 2: for the o'keefes, but and I agree with you Jesson,
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry about what happened with your your brother.
Speaker 2: We have discussed that on the show, and you're welcome
Speaker 2: to come on and discuss anytime. In the meantime, Nan
Speaker 2: Gallagher has decided to make the most incredible.
Speaker 3: Super chat to the show that I could have imagined.
Speaker 2: Nan, we love your friendship and we appreciate you so much,
Speaker 2: and thank.
Speaker 3: You so much.
Speaker 2: You really didn't need to do that, and I must
Speaker 2: stay she's amazing.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: We made her a thank you card because she came
Speaker 2: on with us for the third time at least the
Speaker 2: other day, and so Bia and I decided to make
Speaker 2: her a virtual video thank you card and send it
Speaker 2: to her and and Nan, thank you so much. You're
Speaker 2: incredibly kind and we hope to have you back on
Speaker 2: on weekend.
Speaker 5: She's an acet to this community, truly.
Speaker 2: Please go ahead, thank you, Yes, thank you, please go ahead.
Speaker 8: Bia no I was just saying, she's an asset to
Speaker 8: this community, and she's always telling us to, you know,
Speaker 8: keep showing up. But we need her too because her her,
Speaker 8: she's invaluable.
Speaker 3: Yep, she is. She's like a therapist for me. And
Speaker 3: sometimes like's like, hey, she'll just talk so intellectually and
Speaker 3: break down a motion and break this down and just
Speaker 3: like have this cheery atmosphere and can you guys hear
Speaker 3: that noise? I'm sorry, it's bothering, Like you just keep talking.
Speaker 3: I don't hear no noise and the alarms going off.
Speaker 3: She's gone, and she'll text me and say do you
Speaker 3: want me to jump in? And I've had the pleasure
Speaker 3: to have a drink with her at coffees. Okay, that changes,
Speaker 3: that changes everything. When you when I saw I met
Speaker 3: will you know the the glare we said that we talked.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, saw mad. When you meet
Speaker 3: these people that you see like on YouTube, it kind
Speaker 3: of changes everything, you know a little bit. I know Nan,
Speaker 3: I know she smells the motion in the basket. You know,
Speaker 3: I can just get her.
Speaker 8: And she's the most realist person. Every how she is
Speaker 8: on the show and how genuine and how she shows
Speaker 8: her like how she.
Speaker 5: Is, She's the same in person.
Speaker 8: She will talk to you, give you the time of day,
Speaker 8: make you feel like you're the only one in the room.
Speaker 8: And she has that special that's what special about it.
Speaker 3: I think she I think she still is a very
Speaker 3: successful lawyer. I've never actually to I don't want to
Speaker 3: do that. I want to I want the Nan I know,
Speaker 3: just to be the Nan I know. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I don't need to know about he wins
Speaker 3: or losses. But if I tell you, if I'm in
Speaker 3: a jury and she's talking to me, I'm buying what
Speaker 3: she's selling. I'm buying what she's selling, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna be like, what is going on
Speaker 3: up there? Bro? Yeah?
Speaker 2: First of all, let me let me say, let me
Speaker 2: say thank you to please pass the pepper. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much. It was great to speak with you yesterday,
Speaker 2: and I spoke with your son James James Jackson Johnson
Speaker 2: Jones and Nan, Yeah, you're so incredibly kind. I really
Speaker 2: don't know what's right now. I'm just you know, but
Speaker 2: thank you, and I will certainly.
Speaker 3: She's putting an edition on. She's putting a new addition
Speaker 3: on our house, another four thousand square feet of her mansion.
Speaker 3: She'll get what I'm saying. She'll get what I'm saying
Speaker 3: because they should build it. She'll builds at our house.
Speaker 3: This one. We had her on going over some motions
Speaker 3: and they were like, all these saws are going off,
Speaker 3: and she's like, I go, what are you putting another
Speaker 3: four thousand squift but audition on? With these all the
Speaker 3: money you're making off of YouTube right now? And she
Speaker 3: just lost it. She just lost it, you know. And
Speaker 3: she's such a good person, man. I just say she's yeah,
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: There are people in our community that find themselves to
Speaker 2: be a celebrity, and you really need to know that
Speaker 2: none of us are celebrities, Nan, you know, like she's
Speaker 2: just a regular person just like us.
Speaker 3: That's all we are.
Speaker 2: We're just regular people that happen to be on YouTube,
Speaker 2: nobody hears a celebrity and and that is kind of
Speaker 2: like the mindset that I try to take into this
Speaker 2: because we're all just people which happen to do a
Speaker 2: YouTube show, but we're just regular people.
Speaker 3: And so if.
Speaker 2: You keep that and Nan, you know, makes you realize
Speaker 2: that she actually is somebody. It's I don't remember, but
Speaker 2: they were talking about the Canton Board and things that
Speaker 2: could be done or not done with the select board,
Speaker 2: and Nan related that she set. She sits on the
Speaker 2: boards of about ten different companies and she has two
Speaker 2: law practices. So this is an incredibly successful woman that
Speaker 2: has given her time.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Yeah, okay, I missed miss.
Speaker 2: Slip Sexy woman too, but she yes, she is.
Speaker 3: I mean but that you said right now. But no,
Speaker 3: she's a.
Speaker 2: Very very successful woman and don't to give of her
Speaker 2: time to come to Massachusetts to meet the boots on
Speaker 2: the ground. She didn't just want to meet the you know,
Speaker 2: folks like Karen and the Glare and Turtle Boy.
Speaker 3: But she met everybody she met.
Speaker 2: She met people that were standing out in the street
Speaker 2: and that means a lot. Yes, yes, exactly, that's true.
Speaker 3: So anyway, yeah, dude, you came out here too, man.
Speaker 2: DJ you were of course, oh yeah, but you didn't
Speaker 2: come to the meal food.
Speaker 3: So now I have to come back because right now
Speaker 3: check me. I mean, I look at I look at me,
Speaker 3: and right I look at guys like Scott McGinnis, Dennis Sweeney,
Speaker 3: boots on the ground field. You know that attorneys but
Speaker 3: play their role so good and are so important to us.
Speaker 3: You know, Scott McGinnis to walk through that uh front
Speaker 3: of the Denham Courthouse and have be with that serving
Speaker 3: justice TV guy, have that ripped off of him like
Speaker 3: that the badge ripped off of the servant justice Gentleman
Speaker 3: Michael I. Blue was and Scott was there here to
Speaker 3: put a bag over the sign that didn't say free
Speaker 3: kir and read. That's invaluable. That's invalua that we can
Speaker 3: talk about. That we can say. But have somebody in
Speaker 3: our chat right now that did that. Have Dennisue that
Speaker 3: goes up to every standout, forms his own stands out
Speaker 3: in Denim has a very successful following. People love that guy,
Speaker 3: Karen Huggs Bell every time he comes to the court
Speaker 3: because what he does, what he brings is something that I,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if I could do it
Speaker 3: and show up and show up every day, I can
Speaker 3: do this. It's easier for me in my schedule, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Him and his wife, Dennis and
Speaker 3: his wife showing up. They live in Canton. They go
Speaker 3: to select board meetings. They help out this us Susie Harrington,
Speaker 3: and we want this person to win. H yeah, no kid,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. I heard she's building a boat because the
Speaker 3: trolls are trying to figure out where she lives. But
Speaker 3: but like they show up, probably the mass meal food
Speaker 3: because we all she'll have it cater by the way,
Speaker 3: I trust. We want to tell you. But like those
Speaker 3: people begin this Tommy cpu Turtle, like they show up right,
Speaker 3: they rally the troops. You know, even though we didn't
Speaker 3: have all the answers on my two day where we
Speaker 3: could and couldn't go, we still stuck together. We still
Speaker 3: tried to make it work. They were there today. I'm
Speaker 3: sure right, Yeah, Demmy, I'm from bro and I mean
Speaker 3: that stuff like I mean that. I really do mean it.
Speaker 3: Because people can say I would have done that, I
Speaker 3: could have done that. No, he's doing it. He's there now.
Speaker 3: He's he showed up yesterday, show up today, he went
Speaker 3: to and then he goes to a slegtboard meeting, and
Speaker 3: then he hangs out with John Como and does something else,
Speaker 3: and then he does something else right now, but this
Speaker 3: guy shows up. Its showing up. Scott McGinnis Raine sleeve
Speaker 3: of snow. Scott McGinness is ready to go. Telling you
Speaker 3: that Rymes, by the way, if you caught that range
Speaker 3: sleeve of snow, Scott McGinnis is ready to go. I
Speaker 3: don't you didn't like that? Huh No, they're trying to
Speaker 3: reach the dudes, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: And they they they answer the phone when when I call, and.
Speaker 3: It's like they're calling me, they're calling you, they're calling.
Speaker 3: We don't call them. We don't have to because we
Speaker 3: know when we show up and get him, who's gonna
Speaker 3: be there. There we're gonna see is. I see Scott
Speaker 3: McGinnis every morning, you can't miss him. I see Dennis
Speaker 3: and his wife every morning. I see this Alison. I
Speaker 3: see all these other people there that are always there.
Speaker 3: Jessica is online. These people are do standouts, are doing
Speaker 3: seventy weeks in a row now, I mean Natural Standout
Speaker 3: was a big success, you know, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was in Yeah, all right, any of us
Speaker 8: on the sidewalk.
Speaker 5: Plus my dog le.
Speaker 3: Etsy was on a live stream with us, and she
Speaker 3: jumps on and she's walking from her car to the sidewalk.
Speaker 3: Now there's another creator there be lt L. He's at
Speaker 3: one side's on the other side. The hugs, the love,
Speaker 3: the appreciation of showing up. That goes a long way.
Speaker 3: And there were so many people there that she didn't
Speaker 3: find Brian, and Brian couldn't find her, and every and
Speaker 3: the energy coming through the screen was just.
Speaker 11: Like, Yo, my god, dude, that's what I'm talking That's
Speaker 11: you can't put a price tag on that, because that's
Speaker 11: the hearts and minds of people that don't know the
Speaker 11: case that Michael home after seeing that.
Speaker 3: And go what's this all about? Please find out why
Speaker 3: these people are standing out here every week on a
Speaker 3: Sunday of their own time, waving and giving us a
Speaker 3: peaceful protest every single time. Why are these people down
Speaker 3: in Denham, Why these people out in Marlboro, Lot, Auburn,
Speaker 3: North Carolina, Florida, you name it. It's not just the Massachusetts thing.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's grown up to be this. It exploded
Speaker 3: into this national almost a worldwide campaign.
Speaker 5: And it's peaceful.
Speaker 8: It's peaceful, the cops aren't called. You're out there, you're safe,
Speaker 8: and you know you have the most amazing I mean,
Speaker 8: look at Peter Murphy. He went, he walked. Somebody was
Speaker 8: taking a picture. Oh my Godina was taking a picture.
Speaker 8: He literally walked across that road Route nine or whatever
Speaker 8: it's called, Providence Highway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, route one.
Speaker 8: That's what I meant, and walked her, held her hand
Speaker 8: and walked her back to the side, right, like a gentleman.
Speaker 5: People.
Speaker 3: He's a gentleman. He was brought up right. Yes, you more,
Speaker 3: you get a moral compass of what's right. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm a little female walk across the street and it's busy, right, No,
Speaker 3: hold on a second, right back. I opened my wife's
Speaker 3: kind of do words those you know, things in life
Speaker 3: I get forgotten sometimes. And it's just the way you're raised,
Speaker 3: the way the way you think, the who you've been around,
Speaker 3: who do you hang around with. Do you want to
Speaker 3: be better in life? Yeah? You should be and want
Speaker 3: to be. And I look at people like Dennis and
Speaker 3: his wife and read and Lombardies of Canton, and Canton's
Speaker 3: going through a struggle right now, man, can's a weird
Speaker 3: place to live. You go to the Shaw supermarket, no
Speaker 3: one's talking to anybody, no one talking. No, wow, No,
Speaker 3: it's a weird place man. And I so I don't
Speaker 3: really go there a lot. Maybe it's just me, but
Speaker 3: ken't being me every single time I go there, there's
Speaker 3: no one just just it's just like silence. You know.
Speaker 3: The you heard there was an interview on NYCN and
Speaker 3: they interviewed people in the parking a lot of Shaws,
Speaker 3: and they were older boomers and they felt attention. They said,
Speaker 3: depending would bar you go to to have a drink.
Speaker 3: You can't talk about certain things. You know, you can't
Speaker 3: bring up a conversation because someone next to you might
Speaker 3: feel differently about that. And you live in Kin. It
Speaker 3: shouldn't be that way, but people feel that way. And
Speaker 3: you know people, you know, people know they're not divided. Bullshit.
Speaker 3: I'm calling bullshit, man, because they are right. They are divided.
Speaker 3: You know, we have to vote to get these things
Speaker 3: through our special elections. We wanted we had, we had
Speaker 3: this audit done. We won that. We're actually questioning now
Speaker 3: if you know that we don't think it was good enough.
Speaker 3: But what they put in there already is damning for
Speaker 3: the Canton Police Department. And a fish rots from the
Speaker 3: head down. If you've lost the morale of your people,
Speaker 3: shame on you, Chief Rafvity, Shame on you, Chief Ravity.
Speaker 3: Like she's like the head coach, right, you move it on, right,
Speaker 3: you fire, and you fireing the head coach in the
Speaker 3: locker room, bringing in the assistant coach. You're gonna try
Speaker 3: to change the attitude. Might train a play or two,
Speaker 3: right though they might retire. That's keep blaming social media
Speaker 3: content creators from making the morale of your people. Upset.
Speaker 3: Criby a river all right, Criby a river man, I
Speaker 3: understand your job is hard man. Welcome to the real world.
Speaker 3: You chose that that's what you want to be when
Speaker 3: you're a little kid and you want to grow up
Speaker 3: in kN and be a kit and cop. Right, eighty
Speaker 3: one percent of the cops and can but born and
Speaker 3: raised it.
Speaker 2: The thing is, though, is like what if somebody says
Speaker 2: something that's obviously patently dishonest, as they're saying like Buchanics
Speaker 2: saying I was intimidated by turtle Boy or these idiots
Speaker 2: like I will not use oxygen to form a sentence
Speaker 2: to refute that, because on its face it's so absurd
Speaker 2: and ridiculous that it's not even worth of course they're
Speaker 2: not of course they're not intimidated, so of course, uh,
Speaker 2: social these people are not afraid of social media content creators.
Speaker 2: But they have to build a case on which you
Speaker 2: have a moron like Cosgrove and Mellow that can then
Speaker 2: take that to court and pretend that these people are
Speaker 2: are are moved by me or Brian or Mike or
Speaker 2: you know, turtle Boy, and they're not. They just feel
Speaker 2: bad because there they their wit is not acerbic enough
Speaker 2: to to actually match wits with any of us, uh,
Speaker 2: and certainly not turtle Boy. So so anyway, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste my energy on these morons.
Speaker 3: They are try you know, he tracked on people with
Speaker 3: God damn ducks, are you kidding me? We what are
Speaker 3: you doing? What do you why are you spending the
Speaker 3: resources of that? You want to know why?
Speaker 2: You know the answer to that question is rhetorical, right.
Speaker 3: So Alena Raffie claims that you know we're spending a
Speaker 3: lot of our res by doing fo your requests. Girl,
Speaker 3: you just spent all that time chasing down ducks.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, come on, man, Yeah, she's dishonest, and she
Speaker 2: just shows it, just like BEV shows that she's dishonest,
Speaker 2: and Hank goes that she's dishonest, and the Albert family
Speaker 2: goes that they're dishonest, and the MSP police officers that
Speaker 2: sit in that building with him show that they're dishonest
Speaker 2: and they make campaign contributions, and the Canton p D
Speaker 2: officer shows that none of them are like Peter Murphy.
Speaker 2: So somehow that apple fell so far away from the tree.
Speaker 2: It's in a different county. So yeah, it's a very
Speaker 2: very sad state of affairs. But what I want to
Speaker 2: circle back, because we're basically out of time at this point,
Speaker 2: but I want to circle back to how beautiful it
Speaker 2: is what you talked about earlier, about all of.
Speaker 3: These people that gather.
Speaker 2: And go to these standouts like Dennis and Scott and
Speaker 2: the lady that's sitting just above your left shoulder and
Speaker 2: all of her compatriot It's like Boston Brandy who's in there,
Speaker 2: brings her her daughters and so forth out there, and
Speaker 2: I will I am just waiting to make sure that
Speaker 2: Elon doesn't snatch my job from me, and then I'll
Speaker 2: book another ticket out there just to come and stand
Speaker 2: out and have dinner and maybe go over to Dean
Speaker 2: and walk around.
Speaker 3: Well, I hope the best way in that situation with Elon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I heard. I heard he's stepping back a little bit
Speaker 3: from what I read today, stepping back, yeah, from the
Speaker 3: White House a little bit. Yeah, I prayfully.
Speaker 2: Nothing May he's gonna he's gonna resign whatever the doge
Speaker 2: position is. So yeah, we might be in in.
Speaker 3: Good shape here shortly.
Speaker 2: And I just didn't want to frivolously spend money when
Speaker 2: we were all kind of freaking out over here about
Speaker 2: what was gonna do. And that's what Dennis is saying
Speaker 2: right here. So yeah, So I expect you guys. I
Speaker 2: expect to see you guys relatively soon, hopefull before my
Speaker 2: knee surgery.
Speaker 3: So yeah, are you getting replacement?
Speaker 2: I'm getting a partial replacement on the left. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go get briefed up by the doctor this week and
Speaker 2: it would be in May, so perhaps I should come
Speaker 2: before May. Yeah, first, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see. Well. I would love to speech in person,
Speaker 3: you know that, So anytime good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, goss accent be fun, I said, good bite
Speaker 2: to bosting.
Speaker 3: Mike. I'm actually not irish. I'm finished you are.
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, can you do a finish accent?
Speaker 3: I don't know, no, no, no, but my middle name
Speaker 3: is my middle label thrower all the way by my
Speaker 3: middle initial be with E and uh there's no one
Speaker 3: here that would guess my middle my middle LAMB. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm probably not. Probably it's finished. It's different. I will
Speaker 3: tell you though this. I I'm really proud of this.
Speaker 2: But we did before I started covering Karen Reid, and
Speaker 2: it very long before. I did a Scandinavian UFO roundtable
Speaker 2: and I had Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, and Iceland. Five
Speaker 2: We had one person that was part of the UFO
Speaker 2: community in each one, and it was it was really cool.
Speaker 3: Really No. Finland was just named the number one country
Speaker 3: to live in the world. Uh.
Speaker 2: Their standard living you know, I mean amount of vacation time.
Speaker 3: See what I'm saying, Like I'm an example of that,
Speaker 3: you know, just seeing that that's just how I roll.
Speaker 3: This is my DNA. The thing you are.
Speaker 2: You are absolutely delightful to have on Mike. Uh, and
Speaker 2: I'd like it if you would kind of just pump
Speaker 2: the stuff that you're doing with Tom and just take
Speaker 2: an opportunity to to to uh promote yourself and and
Speaker 2: all the things that you're doing.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question, Tom, Tom, is you want
Speaker 3: to have a boot in the ground, right, He's been
Speaker 3: there from He's turnaboy, Karen, Uh justin rue, he goes to,
Speaker 3: he goes to everything. I couldn't ask for a better partner,
Speaker 3: you know, Santray, Purge, post standouts, Uh, Enrique stuff. It's
Speaker 3: much another story we could get into later.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: I just I feel like yesterday was a big step
Speaker 3: for him. I'm trying to get him a press pass,
Speaker 3: actually fill the application last night. He could become a
Speaker 3: citizen journalist through the mass webs well, through the site.
Speaker 3: We did the patwork last night. I might know somebody
Speaker 3: that knows somebody to knows somebody to know somebody might
Speaker 3: might help him out a little bit, and hopefully he
Speaker 3: can get that because he memorializes so many different things
Speaker 3: that the mainstream media does not see where it's boosing
Speaker 3: the ground. Karen walking in a hot mic moment, there
Speaker 3: was a moment where mister Reid talked about a two
Speaker 3: party state Republican Democrat would be be purple. It was
Speaker 3: a big statement. You know, it took us time to
Speaker 3: see it. To the mainstream media, Tom gone at all.
Speaker 3: The mainstream media dumped it. Tom has it, you know
Speaker 3: things like that that we can memorialize. Yes, he said
Speaker 3: that He's right on the money. You know. That's so
Speaker 3: there's different things that Tom can do.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: Being thrown out of the courtroom by Hartman was was
Speaker 3: one of the biggest mistakes they could have. The way
Speaker 3: they treated him, the way he was pointing, just get
Speaker 3: out of here, that was that was horrible. And then
Speaker 3: you had the other TV Michael and Service Justice get
Speaker 3: the way he was treated with Scot Mcguinnis just shows
Speaker 3: you how ignorant we can be it sometimes as humans
Speaker 3: and not understanding uh feelings and you know, morale and
Speaker 3: you know what I'm going through today. Maybe my mister
Speaker 3: Harpton had a bad day of that day. I don't
Speaker 3: I don't know. But when they put those words in
Speaker 3: they can use uh on a not as salt, but uh,
Speaker 3: you know, tactical maneuvers to take people away. They were
Speaker 3: walking around with zip ties, they were ready to go.
Speaker 3: They wanted somebody to They wanted somebody to do, so
Speaker 3: they would, you know, show the people they are bad
Speaker 3: apples in here. Not one person out of wrestlers, not
Speaker 3: one person was actually out of line. We asked questions
Speaker 3: and they won't give us answers. We tried calling what
Speaker 3: what exactly came? We cannot do. No one wanted to
Speaker 3: talk to us. So it's like a free for all
Speaker 3: out there a little bit. But we have people like
Speaker 3: dentist and you know, Peter Murphy and his wife. No,
Speaker 3: we're gonna stand back here, guys. You know, turnaboy walked
Speaker 3: all the way down and talked with us before he
Speaker 3: got in with his press pass. So I would like
Speaker 3: to get Tom a press pass because he has he
Speaker 3: has a content creator. He sold his footage to a
Speaker 3: production company. That camera was just in that iDTV. He
Speaker 3: sold eighteen minutes of what he had to them. They
Speaker 3: went through his stuff and because stuff they couldn't get,
Speaker 3: like you know in the crowds, different comments at lunch.
Speaker 3: So Tom brings the whole another angle of a viewership
Speaker 3: of like sitting in a coffee shop, but you've got
Speaker 3: FKR people talking to him next to him, that be
Speaker 3: might be there or or ed he might walked in
Speaker 3: one of these days, or who knows, and they will
Speaker 3: talk to Tom and Eddie Jackson, Eliza and Karen and Nathan.
Speaker 3: You know you've seen him talk mister Reid walking missus
Speaker 3: Reid up the stairs because he's got a bad ankle
Speaker 3: or whatever. Those are things Tom can do for us,
Speaker 3: which he deserves the right and the access to those people,
Speaker 3: to those proceedings. Even if Tom wanted to go up
Speaker 3: and ask a question about something he gets, they look
Speaker 3: at him like he's a different person. They don't treat
Speaker 3: him the right way he should be treated. I feel
Speaker 3: bad about that, and I want to help him get
Speaker 3: that press pass because I think that I mean a
Speaker 3: lot to him and be like, you know what, I
Speaker 3: can go and I want I can memorialize all this.
Speaker 3: I haven't. He's always looking over his shoulder, he gets
Speaker 3: getting pushed down, he's getting assaulted, he's you know, these
Speaker 3: little things that happened to him. I'm like, dude, what
Speaker 3: is up with you? And you just you attracted? What's
Speaker 3: going on with that stuff? You know? So that's one
Speaker 3: thing I'm working on. And obviously I'm still putting dots
Speaker 3: together with these motions, and you know, Bordiers and the
Speaker 3: Witnessless is mind blowing if you go through it. Who
Speaker 3: they're calling? Who there? And it's take it like a puzzle, right,
Speaker 3: and you just look at it and go, Okay, why
Speaker 3: wouldn't they want to call this person? What's going to
Speaker 3: happen on direct on this person? How are they going
Speaker 3: to handle this kind of person? So those are things
Speaker 3: I think about. I got two dogs, those are the
Speaker 3: things I think about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you talk about my life right there?
Speaker 3: Man? Right? And the family that I married into if
Speaker 3: they live in Campon as well, so they're right down
Speaker 3: the road. So I interacted with them quite they're all
Speaker 3: voting for Harrington, but they want change this sick of it.
Speaker 3: They know what's going on. But you know what, the
Speaker 3: they were the type of people they just lived their lives,
Speaker 3: did their things, paid their bills and just moved on.
Speaker 3: They didn't care about the politics and was going until
Speaker 3: someone died, right, And they knew that I'm the son
Speaker 3: in law and I was friends with them and I'm
Speaker 3: bringing up a Thanksgiving and they're like, yeah, we kind
Speaker 3: of do that the whole time that the place was
Speaker 3: like this. But we really talk about it. Then I
Speaker 3: started bringing them into it and they're like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: I just sent my father in law of the report
Speaker 3: for the audience. His mind was blown. It's just he's
Speaker 3: like blown away. He's been here for thirty years, I
Speaker 3: said on the auditor board. He texted me back with
Speaker 3: these questions and I'm like, yes, yes, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 3: well there you go. So uh hey Sports Center tomorrow morning,
Speaker 3: nine o'clock for La Fereo. We're gonna need to help
Speaker 3: you out of the press pass even like like b
Speaker 3: you could be like a journalist. Believe it or not.
Speaker 3: You're there every day, you remember, moralizing all these things
Speaker 3: that are happening. Right, you can apply for this stuff.
Speaker 3: People don't unaware of that. You know. You can apply
Speaker 3: for journalist the journalism press pass, and you can go
Speaker 3: into the Federal building. You can go anywhere. You get
Speaker 3: that press pass. She can't.
Speaker 2: She's Boston bea uh and you can order your Boston
Speaker 2: BEA or or my case, the Boston I'm Boston be
Speaker 2: a Fan shirt uh in apparently black and pink. So
Speaker 2: we'll we'll make those available.
Speaker 8: Uh make you thanks Nicole RM, she gifted audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm gonna do now, I want to send everybody,
Speaker 2: so right, there's the link to go visit Jimmy. Jimmy
Speaker 2: is on is Live, so you can go and see
Speaker 2: Auntie dev There's a link there. I want to send
Speaker 2: you over to my boy Jimmy.
Speaker 3: He is, he is. I'm trying to coach him and
Speaker 3: coach him. I'm trying to talk to him in doing
Speaker 3: a stand.
Speaker 2: Are you trying to coach him in basketball? Because I
Speaker 2: feel like his career.
Speaker 3: He he hates sports. He hates sports, he told me,
Speaker 3: because I can't stand it, I'd rather talk about something else.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay. We had a great show, though, I mean,
Speaker 3: I couldn't stop. I was. He let me fly and
Speaker 3: I let him fly, and we would say some weird
Speaker 3: ship and it was funny. It was good stuff. If
Speaker 3: you get interviewed by him, be prepared. I saw the
Speaker 3: Nick Rocco interview. I couldn't believe what was coming on
Speaker 3: next month. I'm just gonna say that right now. I
Speaker 3: just I was, you're a good guy, man, you know what.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: I actually didn't.
Speaker 8: Catch that one yet.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but he had he's he's beefing
Speaker 2: with our friend named Gallagher. I'm trying to get him
Speaker 2: to call me and tell me what his beef is
Speaker 2: because it escapes my intellect. No, I'm not Nick Nick
Speaker 2: Nick Nick. Yes, So I'm trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: his beef is with the amazing Nan Gallagher, but he
Speaker 2: has not yet taken me up on the phone call
Speaker 2: to tell me. So before we get out of here,
Speaker 2: let me say, I'm sorry. Go ahead, what did you say,
Speaker 2: Mike ipotos I said, I said six, not sex. M hmm, okay.
Speaker 2: Thank you once again, Nan Gallagher. You're just incredibly kind,
Speaker 2: as is my friend. Please pass the pepper who just
Speaker 2: got her American flag Chuck Taylor Converse that I sent
Speaker 2: in the mail when she won the contest for the
Speaker 2: I think that was the Turtle Boy, the Turtle Boy
Speaker 2: fundraiser we did.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So thank you, Pepa, and thank you for f K. Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah for FKR. And I want to thank a new member,
Speaker 2: Nicole r M for gifting five calling all Beings memberships.
Speaker 2: Now I must stay delighting me sees the lighting. You
Speaker 2: for all all of you right there. Thank you so
Speaker 2: very much, Boston, Mike. I feel like, really, there's a
Speaker 2: lot about you. I know that, a lot about you
Speaker 2: that we still want to know and hear. And we
Speaker 2: went two hours, so that means we can have you
Speaker 2: back again so we can hit more of it.
Speaker 3: Okay, br I'm I'm all in. Man, had a good time.
Speaker 3: You guys are awesome manks for having me. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna bounce out of here. I'm wait way past my bedtime,
Speaker 3: by the way. All right, what I'm talking about, Dennison,
Speaker 3: he knows what I'm talking about. You put in the
Speaker 3: comment earlier that it's pasted your bedtime, Mike, he knows.
Speaker 3: You gotta listen to your body when you get older.
Speaker 3: What if your body told you to do with this age,
Speaker 3: you do it.
Speaker 2: She's gotta do it, all right, you guys, Mike, Yes.
Speaker 3: I might say some witch. I got a show in
Speaker 3: the morning. You gotta show in the morning at nine
Speaker 3: o'clock with my Tommy Cpu, Tom Cpu seeking justice. Wow,
Speaker 3: give it up for my man right there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Boston, Mike, what a great guy he and his
Speaker 2: buddy Tom Cpu.
Speaker 3: Great show.
Speaker 2: Go support and thank you what was this sham? Wow?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Nana is she she really is
Speaker 2: an angel? I know, Thank you Stacey. Q Uh, it
Speaker 2: was so much fun.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: Mike is awesome and really be I don't think we
Speaker 2: really scratch the surface of everything the time we do,
Speaker 2: because I know I talked to him and all the
Speaker 2: connections that he was making kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 2: So bedtime, goodnight, Branda, good night lovely, thank you so
Speaker 2: much love, goodnight Anna. We got you back out here
Speaker 2: at Holmes And yes, Mike will ride in the cab again.
Speaker 2: One love to him. Thank you, Scott McGinnis, the legend.
Speaker 2: We need to get you back on this joint too,
Speaker 2: get like another another Legends round table. Yeah, and you
Speaker 2: guys go hang out with Auntie deb I see ducks.
Speaker 2: All right, everybody, any final thoughts Boston be other than
Speaker 2: the debut of.
Speaker 3: Your shirts and your your books.
Speaker 2: What your Boston?
Speaker 3: It's so cool man.
Speaker 2: We'll show it on screen next time. All right.
Speaker 5: Well, I gotta get them back, so yes, I want
Speaker 5: to get a Monday. But anyways, No, I think Mike
Speaker 5: was awesome to talk to. He definitely is.
Speaker 8: He brings a different perspective because he knew John, so
Speaker 8: I thought that was really cool to hear, you know,
Speaker 8: the personal stories, so that's something we haven't really had before.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I appreciated everything he said and he's just
Speaker 8: a real good, great guy. So thank you for thank
Speaker 8: you for a great time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad we invited him on. After
Speaker 2: speaking with him, I was just like, oh my, I
Speaker 2: wanted to show to be like the next day. Thanks DJ,
Speaker 2: and let's do some UFOs. We are going to do
Speaker 2: UFOs by the way, So I'll tell you who we're
Speaker 2: working on real quick. This gentleman was on you'll see
Speaker 2: him on YouTube as Uncharted X and he was on
Speaker 2: with Rosscoltart on News Nation. It is a bang up,
Speaker 2: fantastic interview about ancient structures and mind blowing stuff. It's
Speaker 2: that has some UFO implications to it. I'll put you know,
Speaker 2: think about how the Pyramids were making. So Ben van
Speaker 2: Kirkwick Uncharted X and what we're gonna probably do is
Speaker 2: we're gonna do the original Cab crew, but we're gonna
Speaker 2: bring in bea for to make five of us to
Speaker 2: interview Ben van Kirkwick. So right now I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get a hold of him. So all I can say is,
Speaker 2: thank you everybody. We love you so much. You guys
Speaker 2: are so kind, so generous.
Speaker 3: Debbie Blair, No, you are, Debbie Blair.
Speaker 2: Uh, and I look forward to hopefully seeing you guys
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts soon and we'll be doing the damn thing
Speaker 2: on Sunday morning, eleven am with Mark Bedrow and Brother
Speaker 2: Counsel eleven am Eastern Time, Mark Bedrow, Brother Counsel, and
Speaker 2: two miles of gum be zipped up letting these brothers
Speaker 2: unless they need a table set, then we're gonna set
Speaker 2: the table right bea.
Speaker 8: Yes, And Lisa Orcs, who's a member, says, thank you,
Speaker 8: DJ and B When I when am I coming?
Speaker 5: When am I coming on the show? Haha, Well you
Speaker 5: can that's yeah, Yes, I was gonna mention.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So everybody out there, if you would like to be
Speaker 2: on a listener round table on Calling All Beings, please
Speaker 2: uh send me a message at Calling All Beings the
Speaker 2: number one at Gmail and let me know that you
Speaker 2: want to be on, because we've been trying.
Speaker 3: To do one, but people got some stage fright. We
Speaker 3: want to bring you on there with us.
Speaker 8: And you know how I'd like to let everybody know
Speaker 8: this is literally like a.
Speaker 2: Huh no that I'm setting for the whole thing.
Speaker 8: No, I know, this is just feels like a zoom
Speaker 8: call so or a FaceTime like you don't really know
Speaker 8: that people are really watching you. You see the chat,
Speaker 8: but you know what, we're just here having a good time.
Speaker 5: So it's fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So and and that's why we would like to get
Speaker 2: you on and cover the topics that that could be UFOs.
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be whatever you want to talk about.
Speaker 2: Your panelists will have to react to it. So on
Speaker 2: behalf of the Uh. This is DJ saying peace out,
Speaker 2: one love and we'll see you down the road.
Speaker 5: Bye.
Speaker 10: Peace