WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:01.159 Hello friends. 2 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:06.639 Are you looking for enlightening, thought provoking, entertaining films. Check 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:11.160 out my films A Cult Louisiana available on TB and 4 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:15.359 Doors of Perception available now on Amazon Prime. 5 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:20.000 Today. 6 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.120 I want to welcome back to the show Wayne Steiger. 7 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:26.199 He is a philosopher, researcher, and host of The Wayne 8 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:28.960 Steiger Show. Wayne. Welcome back. 9 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.600 How you doing hey any better? I'd be guilty, but 10 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.880 as I told you before, I wasn't that innocent. Doing fantastic. 11 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.640 Thank you for having me, Chris, how the heck are you? 12 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.880 I can't complain. I'm doing pretty damn wonderful and it's 13 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:45.960 great to talk with you again. Every time we speak, 14 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:48.880 we seem to be in a much different reality than 15 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.679 the previous. There also seems to be layers of perception 16 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:57.359 within each stage that we enter. We went from plandemic 17 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:02.399 to possible UFO invasion in lesson four. This affects every 18 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:06.040 one of us differently, and your participation in each of 19 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:10.200 these events depends, I believe, on our free will. I've 20 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:14.760 come to the unfortunate realization that almost everything we see 21 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:18.799 on TV and are spoon fed from the media has 22 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:23.239 varying levels of theatrics and deception. I believe the television 23 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.599 was invented as a form of perception control, a mind 24 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:31.840 control for the masses. And the reality I see and 25 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.719 experience when I go outside and communicate with real folks 26 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.239 that I can physically touch and see and spend time 27 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:42.040 with in nature, is in no way the reality that 28 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:45.760 we are being fed through the mind control media. So 29 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.280 that being said, what is consensus reality? How much of 30 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.719 what we're seeing is an illusion? Who are the true 31 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:56.640 gatekeepers of our perception? Those are a few good questions 32 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.640 to start with. But before we get into any of this, 33 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.280 remind the audience a little bit about yourself and your 34 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:05.719 brain tingling content. 35 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:11.680 Thanks Chris. You know, today I would say that I'm 36 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:14.719 probably fulfilling the role of my life as a philosopher 37 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:19.000 and the background, you know, has lent itself to this 38 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:23.719 moment in this time, and you're right, it's a very 39 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:27.879 different place. It's not the place that I came into. 40 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:32.319 This place, and it's interesting. I've been on this planet 41 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:37.120 for nearly twenty five thousand days, and you know, I 42 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:40.120 don't know if it's a prison sentence or just one 43 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:42.960 hell of an amusement ride. I'm not sure. 44 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:48.599 Yes, anyway, I'm just I'm grateful to be here. 45 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:48.919 Man. 46 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:53.680 I think it's such an experience to be able to 47 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:58.439 witness the events that are unfolding right now. I always 48 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.840 knew that I just had this underlying feeling that during 49 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:06.680 my lifetime we would see something interesting, to say the least. 50 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.039 And I think we're in a very important and special 51 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:13.240 time and I want to get your insights into what's 52 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:16.039 happening right now. And I've told this story a couple 53 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:19.000 of times. I'm going to keep it brief. Whenever I 54 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.719 was in junior high school, I went to a Christian 55 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.439 junior high school and they were showing us a film 56 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:29.280 that was most likely made for Christian schools as a 57 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.680 form of like Christian propaganda film, but it was supposed 58 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:35.159 to portray what the future would be like in the 59 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.599 end times, in the stage of the apocalypse. And what 60 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.960 this video portrayed was it was very low budget, very 61 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:44.599 cheesy actors, but it was very interesting at the time. 62 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.400 I thought it was hilarious. At the time. I thought 63 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:48.879 it was, you know, just so fun for me and 64 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.639 my friends to make fun of this Christian video that 65 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:53.719 we're seeing. Every time we had to go to school. 66 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.159 They played it like twice a year. I guess they 67 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:59.240 wanted to imprint how the apocalypse would be into our minds. 68 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:03.800 But what they show was they showed us pandemics, they 69 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:07.680 showed us wars, and they showed us a UFO invasion 70 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:13.039 that was perpetuated by an evil one world government. And 71 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.720 I just remember watching this and laughing and thinking this 72 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.639 is so insane? Who would ever come up with this stuff? 73 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:24.839 Fast forward to today and I'm looking back at that video, like, man, 74 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:27.600 where do I find who made this video? This is 75 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:32.240 very interesting, and there's so many different levels of prophetic 76 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:36.639 events that seem to be happening, so many events that 77 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:39.959 are unfolding that we seem to have been told about 78 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.199 in some way, whether or another, wherever it's biblical prophecy 79 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.839 or through Hollywood and the media, or some of our 80 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:54.399 most brilliant authors and creators throughout time have prophesied that 81 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:57.160 some of the events we're seeing now during this time, 82 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.319 what occur? And what do you think about that? 83 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:03.759 Deep deep? You know, I knew Tim Lahay, you know 84 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:08.680 who wrote the Left Behind series, and they, of course 85 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.759 a Kirk Kangern. I think they made it into a 86 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:15.240 full length movie, and it's interesting to hear how you 87 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.240 were programmed into it. And you know, here's a question 88 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:23.000 I have for you and your audience. So what you're describing, really, 89 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:27.240 in a nutshell, is that you're describing prophetic events that 90 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:32.040 has been foretold before this day that this would happen. 91 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:38.160 So I have a question then, So if prophecy has 92 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:42.879 any type of role, regardless whether it be religious, non religious, secular, etc. 93 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:44.639 I mean, you know, you can go in the Tarot 94 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:50.519 cards devnation. If it has legitimacy, then what we're really 95 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:55.240 saying is that time travel is real, because if someone 96 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:59.800 wrote it as a prophecy, then by its very nature, 97 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:02.199 it means that it has been seen in the future 98 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:07.319 of yet to happen in the present. Well, now the 99 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:11.240 question really becomes, are we really seeing prophecy? Are we 100 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:15.600 really seeing this reality? Is this mirage that's been painted 101 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.879 out there? Because I don't know about you, but it 102 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:23.560 seems like no one knows who's the puppet master. I mean, 103 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:26.639 we're more confused than we ever have been. So if 104 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:32.040 this is foretold, then my next question is, well, then 105 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:36.120 who's the higher intelligence here? Because it's obviously not us. 106 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:42.120 We seem to be playing a pre determined, pre orchestrated 107 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:48.920 stage a play, and it seems odd that mankind on 108 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:53.360 a collective conscious level is buying this. But we're going 109 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.319 into it. And what is freaking weirder is that you've 110 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:01.600 got more people realizing it, but they are are they're 111 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:08.680 almost become immobilized by the very fear that this thing 112 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:13.040 is portrayed, because if you look at it, Chris, any way, 113 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:19.079 this ends, it ends badly for Homo sapiens, very badly. 114 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:24.160 Well, let's get into that. There's different perceptions of what's 115 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.800 unfolding right now. And if it is indeed an end 116 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:32.240 of day's scenario, very bad like you said for umanity, 117 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:37.639 or just a period of growth and major change, some 118 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:40.800 believe that where we're being led is a form of 119 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:45.079 forced evolution for the greater good in certain ways. And 120 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.959 you can look at that from different angles. You can 121 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.079 look at that from the transhuman technological angle, you can 122 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.600 look at that from the New Age spiritual angle, that 123 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.519 there could be possibly very powerful people in groups steering 124 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:02.959 humanity in a way that they believe will evolve us 125 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.079 in some way. And then there's others that believe that 126 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.199 they are steering us to a depopulation state so that 127 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:12.920 they can have more power and control, which seems more 128 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:17.199 likely right now with everything that is happening. So there's 129 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.680 said that there's different angles that we could take on 130 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:24.000 what where we could be possibly going right? 131 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.879 You know, Chris is that's interesting you bring that up 132 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:30.240 because here's been the one thing that has puzzled me, 133 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.120 and I've gnawed on this for a long time, was 134 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:39.399 the Georgia guidestones. And again this is almost like a 135 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:43.120 Mendela effect. You know, yeah, we know it was there, 136 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.120 but did anyone really read what was it was saying? 137 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:52.519 Was this was this similar to Stanley Kolbrick's you know, 138 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.159 I mean the two thousand and one. Was this a 139 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.360 monolith that was put there as a warning? Was this 140 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.120 a calling card? I don't know, but what I do 141 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.360 know that everything does look like it's a calling. Now 142 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:10.519 you've got the catastrophe. Believe that this is a twelve 143 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:17.159 thousand year cycle, our son nova's every twelve thousand years. 144 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:19.480 It affects on humanity because if you go back and 145 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.639 look at history in the written record, anything beyond ten 146 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:26.879 thousand years beyond that is subject to well is it 147 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:30.679 real or not? Did something happen twelve thousand years ago. 148 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.679 Why did the Neanderthals and the Chromagnus, Why did these 149 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:39.799 other genesis of man just die off? And are we 150 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:44.480 really a species of less than six thousand years? Or 151 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:48.440 are we really a species of two hundred thousand years? 152 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.799 Are we at the pinnacle of a societal collapse? It 153 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:56.159 says we've been here before. 154 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.600 It's interesting. It all depends on what angle you look 155 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:04.720 at our history from, because what we've been told is 156 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:09.200 our history. The more we advance, it's becoming more of 157 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.120 a false reality. They have altered what we understand as 158 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.399 our true history in so many ways, and they're doing 159 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.480 it now as we speak. So how much of what 160 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:26.679 we've been told about the progression of humanity and everything 161 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.200 that has brought us to where we're at now. The 162 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:34.879 only way to truly know that as to have experienced that. 163 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:38.279 It's those that were in the greatest power that have 164 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:41.559 written our history and told us what has happened. That's 165 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:45.720 a part of it that it's difficult to decipher what's 166 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:49.000 happening now. Another is, if you look at the more 167 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:54.480 spiritual angle of prophecy, people who have channeled information, people 168 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:59.679 who have foreseen the future psychically time trap, if you 169 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.080 want to considered that they seem to have different timelines. 170 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:06.799 They have seemed to have different outcomes. Either each person 171 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.240 is being given different information because it's a trickster entity 172 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:13.480 and they think it's funny, or there are indeed different 173 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:17.240 timelines that we could possibly converge to. 174 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.799 There is the theory that when we exploded the first 175 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:33.240 nuclear bomb in the atmosphere, that it basically distorted the 176 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:41.799 space time strings. If you read the alien abduction in 177 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:46.039 Interview with an Alien, we know that the alien said 178 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:52.279 that we did something that basically now is perpetuating us 179 00:11:52.320 --> 00:12:00.000 into multiple time realities. I know, specifically on my chain 180 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:08.480 November ninth, twenty sixteen, that was the night that Donald 181 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:12.120 Trump won the election. I had a woman who wrote 182 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:15.320 me the next day and she says, something's wrong here. 183 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:20.919 She says, I don't belong in this timeline. And oddly enough, 184 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:24.159 she wrote back several months later and she said, I'm 185 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:27.840 going to tell you. She says, I know, and she's 186 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:29.720 And I wrote her back and I said, how do 187 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:34.759 you know that you're not in the right timeline? She says, 188 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:37.559 I've been married to my husband for over twenty two 189 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:43.399 years and when we shared intimacy that was not my husband. 190 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:49.679 Now is this psychologically something her? Or how do you 191 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:52.919 argue with something on such an intense level, particularly where 192 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:57.080 intimacy is concerned, where you would know the other person 193 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:04.559 extremely intimately. They say that the looking glass device out 194 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:08.759 at the S four facility, Doug Way is that it's 195 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:14.399 a device that shows the infinite potential of possibilities of 196 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:21.840 future events. And apparently someone or something got in, and 197 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.519 apparently the theory, the conspiracy theory is is that they 198 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.759 altered what was supposed to have been a normal chain. 199 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.840 There is in one reality where Kennedy was never shocked 200 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:37.879 and that you know, he basically bought down this whole 201 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:43.440 cabal that now is ruling the United States. I don't know, 202 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.200 well another reality. 203 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:47.279 Well, I was gonna say, if you look at the 204 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:52.919 theory of the possibility that certain quantum experiments are large 205 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:59.000 scale scientific facilities like cern, some of the experiments that 206 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:04.080 could have been are being done there could possibly alter 207 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.399 our reality in a way. Every time they're firing up 208 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.200 some of these machines, it could completely change or put 209 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.240 us into a different type of reality than we were previously. 210 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.519 If this were to happen. If this is a possibility, 211 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:23.840 we probably wouldn't even ever notice that we are then 212 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:28.080 transported into a different reality. Or if we go to 213 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:31.440 sleep one day and we have a different perception of 214 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:34.639 reality the next day that we wake up, were we 215 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.039 living in a different reality the previous day. It's very 216 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:39.120 interesting to consider. 217 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:44.759 Well, you brought up quantum, so quantum consciousness. It's interesting. 218 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:49.519 You know, when d Wade first turned on their quantum computer, 219 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:53.799 they used what was called the God chip. And it's 220 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.919 very interesting because you know, they build a separate chamber 221 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:01.720 and this device is then in built around this chamber. 222 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:06.679 They bring down the temperature to almost absolute zero. I 223 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:11.320 think it's two degrees above absolute zero. This computer chip 224 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:16.480 then begins to build a quantum reality. Now, according to 225 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:19.000 their CEO, and it's on their website, you can fact 226 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:21.360 check me on this. He said, when they first turned 227 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:24.120 it on, it was like kneeling before an alien god. 228 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:29.320 All right. Then they said on their website that they 229 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:36.799 had successfully brought back substance matter from a different realm. Now, 230 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:39.639 I don't know. I mean, it seems like to me 231 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.320 the annihilation theory comes in here if you're bringing But 232 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:46.679 now that actually anti that's not what they said. They 233 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.200 brought matter in from a different realm, a different reality, 234 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:55.480 different dimension. Now I don't know what type of effect 235 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:59.960 that that would have on our particular perception of time 236 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:00.919 in reality. 237 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.360 Well, it's very interesting if you consider the advancements that 238 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:11.440 are happening with artificial intelligence, the rapid growth of some 239 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.600 of the technologies behind it. Some of the individuals that 240 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:22.679 have developed these technologies were very deeply involved with occult practices. 241 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:28.840 These individuals had the occult intertwined with the science and 242 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:33.759 technology that they were working with in developing. What would 243 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:40.639 keep them from having the ability to combine the spiritual 244 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:45.639 existence of an intelligence and artificial intelligence if you know 245 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:46.120 what I mean. 246 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:51.720 Well, technically isn't mankind of artificial intelligence? I mean, depending 247 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.600 on your point of view and your perception, we were 248 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:57.879 made in the image of something or created from some 249 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:02.399 sort of so that in fact makes us artificial intelligence. 250 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:04.759 And you know, I can't help it not think that 251 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.279 this seems almost manipulative. And by this I mean, Chris, 252 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:13.240 you look at the current tech titans today and if 253 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:15.759 you go back, I did a whole video on this, 254 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.000 and you look at when they were born, and you 255 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:22.640 look in the location of where they were born that 256 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:27.920 the key players in this something was going on. Now, 257 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.839 I grew up in Santa Clair. I grew up eight 258 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:36.079 blocks away from Steve Jobs. There was something in that area. 259 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:40.920 There was something going on. And if those individuals had 260 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:44.480 never been born, or if one thing had been off, 261 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.680 they would never brought the technology that they were either 262 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:54.759 channeled or led into. Or I know it seems far fetched, 263 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.759 but what if, in fact, their consciousness is nothing more 264 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:03.839 than time travel and that we're living a It seems again, 265 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:08.279 it seems too orchestrated. I mean, right now, humanity is 266 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:12.599 basically you could say, has lost its mind. People are 267 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:13.960 going crazy. 268 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:16.880 Well, that's another thing I want to get into is 269 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:22.039 to what extent have we already been altered to a 270 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:24.920 point where we are no longer the humans that we 271 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:28.359 were even just a few years ago. Look just look 272 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:34.079 at the reaction of humanity to a basic admittance of 273 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:36.759 extraterrestrial life from our government. 274 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:37.200 Now. 275 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.799 Plenty could say, especially even myself, I don't trust anything 276 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:43.960 the government says. I don't trust anything the media is 277 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.440 gonna tell me. They've never told the truth about anything, 278 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:48.640 So why am I gonna believe them about UFOs. But 279 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:54.319 the reaction of the multitude of of the masses, the 280 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:58.119 largest group of people in the planet that are you 281 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:03.079 considered normies that aren't initiated into some of the topics 282 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:08.319 that we talk about, the reaction is meh. Now, would 283 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:11.680 this be the reaction five ten years ago? I don't know. 284 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.559 It doesn't seem like it. But are we being altered 285 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:20.920 that rapidly to where we are not the spiritual beings 286 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:24.200 that we once were. We don't react the same to 287 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:28.279 certain events in our reality that we once did. And 288 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:32.279 is that because we're being fundamentally changed from what we've 289 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:36.720 been subjected to food, water, air, technology? And is this 290 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.799 all the intent? Is this going to be the new 291 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:43.200 quote unquote perfected human that they want to create? 292 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:51.039 Well, it's it's an interesting question because let's go into 293 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:53.640 the occult side of the equation, more on the what 294 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:58.920 I would call kabbalistic aspects of Christianity and the abraham religions. 295 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:06.640 You look at this and we went in when society, 296 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.960 when we had reached our pinnacle in the Roman Empire, 297 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.680 when the Roman Empire collapsed, we went into the dark ages, 298 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:17.759 and it was exactly that it seemed like man's consciousness 299 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:24.079 had collapsed. And it was at that time that the Church, 300 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:31.640 which was the power, which was the wealth, it was God. 301 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.000 And in that period of time what we call the 302 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:43.000 dark ages, we were darkened in enlightenment, no one, if 303 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:46.400 you were a pagan, chances are you were probably living 304 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:49.119 off the path because if you were in the influence 305 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:54.240 of the church. I contend that we've been under a spell, 306 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:59.119 and I call it the gods spell. And the Bible 307 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:03.119 is nothing but one of the darkest books of spells 308 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:06.720 I've ever come across. And I was an ordained pastor, 309 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:09.960 spoke in tongues, laid hands on the sick, you know, 310 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:15.680 watched miracles happen. I come out of that experience realizing 311 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:20.839 that there's something manipulating us everything. And here's the problem. 312 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:25.480 If you take that as evidence what we have the 313 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:30.039 spell was broken. And I believe that George Smith from 314 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:35.200 the London Museum when he found the first Samaran tablets, 315 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:39.599 and then when we interpreted what doctor Noah Kramer, I've 316 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:42.400 read all of his books. He is the first samariologist 317 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:47.119 of the world. The Samaran tablets prove the paradigm that 318 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:52.240 what we've been believing in is fake. It's false because 319 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:57.079 the Christian God, the Jewish God, the Hebrew God was 320 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:03.279 never written in their tablets. So that tells me something happened. 321 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.680 Were we taken over? Was this we were invaded? And 322 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:10.119 if you look at it, Chris, we have not advanced, 323 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.680 my whole point to this, while we've been under this spell, 324 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:19.640 mankind has virtually advanced very little. If you read the 325 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.680 Samarn eight to nine thousand years ago and where we 326 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.960 are today, wow, it's frightening. 327 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:30.119 Well, if you look at that aspect, the possibility that 328 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.640 we have been our reality has been hijacked in some 329 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:38.759 manner that can get into very dark and disturbing places. 330 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:43.720 Just looking at the possible time frames of this, most 331 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:47.599 would believe this has been over thousands and thousands of 332 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:52.079 years that we have been under this dark rulership. Well, 333 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:55.799 what about the possibility that it's something more recent, that 334 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:01.440 what we know as our reality has been manufactured, maybe 335 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:04.480 as early as last week, and we have all these 336 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:07.440 memories that have been implanted and they're all false memories, 337 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:13.039 and we're just in this new manufactured reality that whatever 338 00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:16.880 type of malevolent entity has managed to hijack or hack 339 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:22.000 into you know, maybe it not didn't necessarily happen twenty thousand, 340 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.039 one hundred thousand years ago or longer. Maybe it's something 341 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:28.920 that happened more recently in what we consider our modern history. 342 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:35.079 Yeah, you know, wow, you just triggered a memory. You know, 343 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:37.640 when I've been on I was on my own at 344 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:43.000 the age of fifteen, and I started dropping LSD at 345 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:45.880 the age of fifteen. At the age of sixteen, I 346 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:51.319 got involved with a government program that they were only 347 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:55.119 about a dozen of us. We were all within you 348 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:57.720 were supposed to be eighteen years older, but no one 349 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:01.559 was over the age of twenty. And we went through 350 00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:05.279 where they gave us clinical LSD. They taught us transcendental meditation, 351 00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:08.559 we would do other exercises. My point to all this 352 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:13.240 is is that something broke there. I mean, if I 353 00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:16.440 look at this now, I think that it's when we 354 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:19.960 are in an altered state of consciousness that suddenly you 355 00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.599 begin to see the cracks of this current reality. 356 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.640 Now, were you voluntary, voluntarily attending this interesting? 357 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:32.279 Yeah? Yeah, it was quite interesting. You know when they 358 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:35.680 taught us, you know, particularly how to begin to astro 359 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:40.359 project under the influence of Lysergic diasic acid. It was 360 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.920 quite fascinating and it wasn't cut was this. 361 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:45.000 Was a CIA sponsored program. 362 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:47.359 I don't know it was CIA, but I do know 363 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.400 it was run through the state of Texas in a 364 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.200 hospital down in Houston, Texas. Yeah. 365 00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:57.599 Now that makes me wonder how much of this stuff 366 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:02.319 is still going on through like gifted and talented programs, 367 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:03.880 certain school programs. 368 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:05.599 It's all going on, I guarantee it. 369 00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:10.480 Where they're having unsuspecting children attend these programs and be 370 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:12.079 part of part of these things. 371 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:16.480 I was on the streets. They yeah, they found me. 372 00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.839 They knew who I was. I mean, I was basically 373 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:21.680 homeless on the street. I mean, you know, it was 374 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:27.200 the early seventies and you know, but anyway, the point is, yeah, 375 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.440 I thought it was rather for me at the time. 376 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.319 It was, you know, it was pretty cool. I mean, 377 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:38.200 you know, got laid too. Yeah. 378 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:43.240 You hear about these these these government sponsored gifted programs 379 00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:48.359 where it's more of a scouting and recruitment program for 380 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:53.759 something much darker, that is, for black ops purposes, right. 381 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:56.960 You know, And it's so odd, you know, because someone 382 00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:59.079 asked me once, you know, well, what was it like? 383 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:01.880 And I said it was interesting because you would come 384 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:05.000 into a room and you know, they had good music 385 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.920 going on. I mean it was the rock music of 386 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.960 the day, and the what we would call the handlers 387 00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:16.680 were primarily there was a male and a female, and 388 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.880 there was inter times there were others, but you know, 389 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:25.759 they actually put on these things with the nodes, and Yeah, 390 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.319 what I'm convinced of is that it showed me and 391 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:33.359 particularly as a group, that you could you could literally 392 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:38.000 leave this physical realm and there's this whole new realm. 393 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:43.279 I mean, it's there, it's everywhere. This you know, as 394 00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:47.039 I was taught, If I'm sitting in a room with 395 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.519 four walls and no windows, but I know what the 396 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.400 outside looks like when I'm in the room, am I 397 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:55.440 going to have the basis that I can say that 398 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.440 that's real, that that still. 399 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:03.400 Exists, that that you're speaking of, this this existence that 400 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.119 could surround us, but we just can't perceive it because 401 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.079 it's not in the right spectrum, it's not in the 402 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:14.039 right frequency. Could the life in this reality, the life 403 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:18.359 forms that exist here be what we understand as extraterrestrials? 404 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.720 I believe. So I'm convinced that because I've taken a 405 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.319 number of those journeys out there. As the Moody Blue says, 406 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:34.240 you won't never know until you go out. And the 407 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.640 more I think about this, we're trapped. I think that 408 00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:41.519 we are the if you wouldn't use in a modern 409 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:46.559 day nomenclature in a religious sense, we are the fallen angels, 410 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:50.279 we are the fallen divine beings. I think that we're captured. 411 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:54.400 I really do. I think that there was a galactic war. 412 00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:58.599 I think it's still going on, and we are the casualties. 413 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:00.680 I think many of us have been here. 414 00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.759 Do you think that that that's just part of an illusion, because, 415 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.279 like I said, when I go out into nature, I 416 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.240 went on a camping trip the other weekend and it 417 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.720 was the one of the most beautiful experiences I had. 418 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:17.680 The few people that I encountered were extremely nice, They 419 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:22.200 didn't have any agendas, and it was just a wonderful 420 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.000 experience out in nature. And even on a daily basis, 421 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.799 when I leave my house and I encounter other folks, 422 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:33.400 there isn't people dropping dead in the streets from unknown diseases. 423 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.240 There isn't wars, there aren't people shooting each other on 424 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:39.519 the streets and killing each other. It's a pretty beautiful 425 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.079 existence in my everyday reality if I'm not tuning into 426 00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:46.279 the news or I'm not scrolling through articles on the phone. 427 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:50.400 But when you do that, the second you tune in 428 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:55.240 to consensus reality, the second you attempt to find out 429 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.359 what's going on across the planet, that's when you can 430 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:06.319 get glimpse of the approved program, the approved reality of propaganda, war, 431 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:12.759 possible UFOs, deadly pandemics, all these things that are going 432 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.119 to keep you in a constant state of fear, but 433 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.640 a constant state of control because we need protection from 434 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.880 all these things. What you're gonna protect yourself? No, there's 435 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.640 no way. You got a daddy. Government and the military 436 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:27.799 are the only ones that can protect you from all 437 00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.839 these ugity boogey bogamen that we show you on the 438 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.920 news and your TV every day. So that's how they, 439 00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:36.480 you know, keep everybody in line. But if you don't 440 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.279 pay attention to any of that, are we still the 441 00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:40.640 trapped fallen angels? 442 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.960 I don't know. It's you think about technology is not 443 00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:53.720 really much more than a control mechanism. And you see, 444 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.160 and you use the word true, it's it's it's fear 445 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:03.799 and control. They're the twins. And you can't imagine a 446 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:09.279 population of nearly eight billion people that were free thinkers. 447 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.440 I mean, if you want to look at that, that 448 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:17.440 would be a huge existential threat to whatever this is. 449 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:21.319 And it goes back to that question, Chris, So, when 450 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.759 was the last time that all of humanity was united? 451 00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:28.480 You're right. 452 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.440 I had an interesting guest on the other day. I 453 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.960 can't remember exactly who it was. His name will probably 454 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.920 come to me in a little while, but he believes 455 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:44.559 that what these elitists, with the globalists, their ideology behind 456 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.920 depopulation is that there is too many people for us 457 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:55.240 to collectively ascend. Those that have advanced their consciousness, those 458 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.839 have that become more spiritual, aware and growing, are close 459 00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:04.599 to this ascension stage, if you will, but the new 460 00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.799 souls coming in. There are constantly new souls being recycled 461 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.119 into the planet every day, and they do not have 462 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.880 the same level of awareness. And these globalist elitists believe 463 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:20.319 that they are preventing the collective of humanity from reaching 464 00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:23.920 this ascension stage because of too many new souls coming in, 465 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:28.880 and they need to prevent that somehow by massively depopulating 466 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:34.400 the planet on a genetic and specifically chosen basis. 467 00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:39.119 It's interesting. I had a pen pal. I haven't heard 468 00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.960 from her quite a while, but it was Princess Margaret 469 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:47.480 Anne and this was back in twenty sixteen, and she 470 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:52.400 sent me some very interesting information. I mean, what I 471 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:57.279 left with was she was showing me there is there 472 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:03.160 is this circle of I don't know if they're souls. 473 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.960 I don't know if they're human, I don't know if 474 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:13.119 they're a non terrestrial biologic you know, conglomeration. But there 475 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:19.319 seems to be a deliberate control manipulation of what we 476 00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:26.519 we uh individually are subjected to. And you know, you 477 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:31.279 extrapolate that you look at this today. So if evil exists, 478 00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.200 then then who's the evil? You know? I tell people, 479 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:41.559 of course, you know, I've studied the occult. I studied 480 00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.599 you know, you know, the Lucifer, Satan and the demons. 481 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.599 I've studied the Christian Jesus and all that, to Muhammad 482 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:51.880 to the rest, and you know what, I've come to 483 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:57.240 the conclusion, individually, it's us. We're the only ones that 484 00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:01.400 give permission to all of this. And then I stopped 485 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:02.920 and I said, well, wait a minute, what if that 486 00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:08.640 was a universal consciousness amongst all of us. What would happen. 487 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:12.960 Would everything collapse, would it suddenly just you know, fall 488 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:17.799 within itself, or would there be this new awakening, this 489 00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.799 new day for our planet and for our species. 490 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.279 It's very interesting, and I always wonder where our spiritual 491 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:34.480 our original spiritual beliefs come from. Were they because our 492 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:38.039 ancestors picked up a magic mushroom and had an incredible 493 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.920 vision and spoke with these spirits on the other side 494 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:46.960 and got information. And then eventually negative forces realized that 495 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.599 they could commune with the other side through different spiritual means, 496 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:58.400 whether it's through psychedelic plant medicines or meditative magical practices. 497 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:03.880 They've realized that can commune with intelligences that can give 498 00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:08.039 them power. And then they proceed to do so and 499 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:14.440 get knowledge of agriculture, mathematics, and how to control a society. 500 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.719 And then fast forward to today and this is where 501 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:20.599 we get our modern society. 502 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.440 Or you could look at this and this is how 503 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.400 I equate it. When I meditate and I have my 504 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.000 place out here in the country now, and you know, 505 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.000 I'm surrounded by nature. I can see the hummingbirds and 506 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:42.400 this whole menagerie of consciousness, and I meditate at times, 507 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.320 and I can see the different species of birds, and 508 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:52.039 I can see consciousness in action. Now that's intelligence, it's intelligence. 509 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:56.199 But I don't know how they would perceive me and 510 00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.719 my consciousness. My whole point to all this, I've come 511 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.800 down to believe that there was a singleness of thought, 512 00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:08.000 singleness of consciousness, and we are the byproducts of that, 513 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:13.119 and that we continue. I look at this place as 514 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.840 when I leave, I'm leaving with a smile and a 515 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.519 thank you. I've had the best freaking time here. I 516 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.519 came in at the right time. Music is what I 517 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.000 am about, and I leave with that, and that will 518 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.519 leave with my conscious Now. Is that then, meaning that 519 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:34.400 I am a soul and a spirit? I don't know anymore. 520 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:39.039 I know this, there is something that is so beyond 521 00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:44.360 our ability, and it's like you, I'm finding myself more 522 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:49.880 and more detached from these events that seem to be 523 00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.760 hell bent in a direction I've said, I'm not going 524 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:54.760 to be part of it anymore. 525 00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.760 It's interesting you were mentioned the animals. There seems to 526 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:03.639 me that there is a hierarchy of consciousness from your 527 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:08.119 smallest microbe to your animals and plants to up to 528 00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:13.480 human consciousness. But then it all filters to our single 529 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:18.920 perception and our single consciousness as individuals. This all seems 530 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:24.719 to be this kind of pyramid structure of consciousness, and 531 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:31.440 it all connects into our collective perception of consensus reality, 532 00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:36.599 and that's what creates our reality as our collective perception. 533 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:43.559 Would you say, oh, absolutely, I'm you know, it's interesting, Yeah, 534 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:48.239 I'm married. And it's amazing how you can have two 535 00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:54.199 consciousness that become close and begin to exist coexist within 536 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:58.920 this fabric. And it's like I tell my wife all 537 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.440 the time. I said, you know, the love that I 538 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:07.280 have for you is everywhere. I said, but I still 539 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.679 know as much as that love is reciprocated, I said, Huney, 540 00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:17.639 I still can't touch your consciousness. I can feel the effect, 541 00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.360 I can feel the result. And she said, that's the 542 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.679 same thing. And even in that moment of intimacy, it's 543 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.000 probably the closest that we would ever come of being 544 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:33.440 able to touch another person's consciousness. That's why I believe 545 00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:36.559 death is more orgasmic than it is pain as it 546 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.679 is when we came into this realm, just. 547 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.639 A thought as far I want to go back to 548 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.920 someone THELF I want to go do that. Yeah, I 549 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.199 want to go back to what's happening right now in 550 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:55.480 our consensus reality, what we're being shown, and one of 551 00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.280 the things that we're being shown is something that we've 552 00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.599 been told for the longest time was pure science fiction, 553 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:06.360 pure fantasy, a product of human imagination, and that's aliens 554 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:11.039 and extraterrestrials. Now we're being told that they are indeed 555 00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:15.280 a real phenomenon, that we have physical bodies and evidence 556 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.760 and crash retrievals. Of course, no evidence presented to the 557 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.760 public as far as physical, real evidence that we can 558 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.559 see and look at and touch and feel, but there 559 00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:30.519 are steps being taken as a form of disclosure, you 560 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:33.960 could say. Now, the the level of deception of this, 561 00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:36.800 we don't know. I don't know. No one knows that. 562 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.000 I'm sure that there is a level of deception. Everything that, 563 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:42.679 like I said earlier, that we've been shown in the 564 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.559 TV and media has been pre approved for a certain 565 00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.480 level of propaganda purposes. Now to the level of this, 566 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:55.880 I don't know. But it's so interesting the timeframe and 567 00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:59.800 that it's occurring at all, And I want to get 568 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:04.079 your insights into the possibilities of why do you think 569 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:08.599 that our government is telling us about UFOs right now. 570 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.880 Because the primary has been already set within the vast 571 00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:19.440 majority of Americans for the longest time were Christians, and 572 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:23.559 then you of course have your Jewish beliefs, and then 573 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.880 of course muslim. It's interesting because I as a Bible student, 574 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:33.760 when I went to Bible school, the thing about spaceships 575 00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.480 was no big deal when I came across. For instance, 576 00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:40.400 in Zachariah, the Book of Zachariah, Zachariah, the prophet was 577 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.840 standing there with this angel, and read it for yourself. 578 00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:47.360 I think it's in the twelfth chapter, eighth chapter Zacharia. 579 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.960 And the angel is standing in there, and they said, 580 00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:54.559 from out of samahr su and so that means the Samarians. 581 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.159 What wait a minute, there came this flying scroll and 582 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:03.280 they described exactly a saucer. Now in this case, the 583 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:08.239 prophet rights that he said on the two wings were 584 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:16.079 two female occupants pilots, and there was an exchange, and 585 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:22.400 the UFO went off went back to samhar The Ezekiel 586 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:27.960 talks about God coming down in a ship a golden 587 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.800 glow that was no you know in any of you 588 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:36.079 think about. It's almost exactly what we see today. So okay, 589 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.199 to me, I think we've been we've been pre con 590 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:44.239 already pre programmed the birth of Star Trek. You know, 591 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:49.119 you look at the whole genre, I think we've all 592 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.599 been conditioned. And again, well with. 593 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.360 Star Trek, that's very interesting because you go back to channeling. 594 00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:59.519 With that, the group of elitists that got together for 595 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:04.800 saye Is along with Gene Roddenberry attending, these were given 596 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:09.840 information about the future space, the way the universe works. 597 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.920 He in turn goes to make Star Trek based on 598 00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.760 these seance and channeling sessions from these group of people 599 00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:22.039 by this interdimensional beings called the Nine. So again it 600 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.000 goes back to are we being led by forces outside 601 00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:26.199 of what we understand? 602 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:29.320 Well? Yeah, I mean to me, we all channel I 603 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:33.199 mean I was again, I pray every day to this 604 00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.400 father figure that I had this mental thing that's sitting 605 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.400 on this throne and that you know, I could pray 606 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.400 what my needs were, and if I got down and 607 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.920 it was repentant enough and what have you, my needs 608 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.920 when my prayers would be granted. It's channeling any way 609 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.880 you look at it. So whether you're in an intellectual 610 00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:58.239 or a metaphysical or religious aspect, you're still channeling from 611 00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.800 something or is it the same thing? 612 00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.920 I mean, well, whenever I create, whenever I create music. 613 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.239 For example, the best music I'm ever gonna make is 614 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.880 if I'm not thinking about anything, if I'm not attempting 615 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:14.000 to create music, if I just let something come and 616 00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.639 flow through me, that's the best shit I ever wrote. 617 00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.039 Right there. And the same with doing the show, The 618 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.199 same with creating media, the same with creating my documentary. 619 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.159 If I think too hard on it and pre plan 620 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.920 it too much, it's it's crap. But if I just 621 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.840 let it happen and let the energy flow out, it 622 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.119 turns out pretty damn good. 623 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:35.599 Right there. Van Morrison, I think said it the best. 624 00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.320 He said that, you know he channels the music. He 625 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.480 said that I'll wake up and he said, and many 626 00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:45.119 musicians have said the same thing. I designed a mobile 627 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.039 payment system, and I had never designed a system before, 628 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.719 but I was plugged into something that. Man, it was, 629 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.719 it was beautiful. I look back on it. I mean, 630 00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.920 it was like eight months that I can't recon act, 631 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.239 actually recalled, but I built this. 632 00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:04.880 Well, the same with what I just did with this doctor. 633 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.440 This is gonna be the first feature film that I 634 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.239 am on this. Oh, thank you so much, man, And 635 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.000 I would before I started doing it. I'm like, all right, 636 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:15.880 I got a storyboard this. I gotta get it all 637 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:17.519 laid out. I have to have this perfect. I have 638 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:18.920 to know what I'm going to do, know where the 639 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.519 music's going to go. And I tried that for like 640 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.800 a month and a half and nothing happened, and I'm like, 641 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:24.519 what am. 642 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:25.039 I doing wrong? 643 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.239 So then one day I just decided to get up 644 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:29.719 and say, screw it, I'm just going to start playing 645 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.239 this thing out as it's supposed to be. And I 646 00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.559 just started just creating and it just started flowing and 647 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.519 coming to me as I went. And within a month 648 00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.400 and a half, the thing was finished, and I'm like, okay, 649 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.519 so this is what I have to do. You can't 650 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.440 there's some things in life that you can't always pre plan, 651 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:48.840 especially when it's connected to creativity. 652 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:50.239 Yeah. 653 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.360 Yeah, brother, I'm right there digging on those words because 654 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:58.519 it's it's so true. You can't get into that, you know, 655 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:03.480 those stata waves and and and and it's it's the 656 00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.800 amazing thing about this brain, what it has the ability 657 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.599 to be a receptor and a transmitter. Yes, yeah, and 658 00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:13.159 and you know. I don't know if I have original 659 00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:18.360 thought or not, but I'm certainly aware of this. I've 660 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:25.440 become more more more intimate with this, this consciousness, and 661 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.119 it is uh, it is a force. 662 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:33.480 It's everywhere, and it's just this is across the board. 663 00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:36.840 If you think, if you think of our greatest thinkers 664 00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:43.000 and inventors and scientists and creators throughout history, they most 665 00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:46.440 likely were tapping into this same type of force or 666 00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:50.119 energy that just flowed through them in some ways. So 667 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:56.400 the the construct of our reality has been created from 668 00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:01.760 individuals like this, from creative individles like this, So that 669 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:05.920 reality may have come indeed, not from these people, but 670 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:07.639 from the universe. 671 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.920 If you will agreed, I agreed, I mean you and I. 672 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.519 I'm sitting in here in an air conditioned home where 673 00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.880 I'm not in the elements, I'm not in the environment. 674 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:23.159 I have an artificial environment, and I coexist in this 675 00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.840 environment at the same time. Then why can't I do 676 00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.320 that on a whether you want to go on a 677 00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:33.719 conscious basis or a spiritual basis. I am more than 678 00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:38.760 my flesh. I know that. And as you get older, 679 00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:43.840 and as you begin to realize, you know, the last 680 00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.400 parental figure in my life passed away last Thursday, and 681 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.599 so that generation is, oh, I celebrate their lives. To me, 682 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.320 it's like it's don't be sad. I mean, you know 683 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.559 when I tell people when I pass over, I'm going 684 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.840 to I expect a party. Fact that it's already prepared 685 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.960 that there will be a party. I mean, I'll be cremated. 686 00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:08.440 It's the only way I know to release this within 687 00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:12.199 me is through the element of fire, and I will 688 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:17.760 join that consciousness of many others. Or I believe I 689 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:20.119 have the free will to go and be on my own. 690 00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.599 I mean, if I want to be by myself and 691 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:27.639 a void that I can create within myself, I believe 692 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:29.800 we'll have that right. But anyway, that's just me. 693 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.880 Yeah. Now, I try to remain open minded about some 694 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.440 of the events that are happening right now. Yes, it's 695 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:41.760 very exciting that our government is telling us admitting that 696 00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:47.360 they have crash craft in their possession and that they've 697 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.880 retrieved bodies. Of course, this is is fascinating to hear. 698 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.920 But again I go back to the level of truth 699 00:46:56.000 --> 00:47:02.079 behind it. What is the reason behind them coming forward? 700 00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:02.480 Now? 701 00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.119 If indeed what they're telling us is the truth that 702 00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:10.119 they have crashed craft. Why are they letting us know? 703 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.360 Is it just because there is an eventuality that no 704 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:18.000 matter what, we're going to know from our own accord. 705 00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:22.239 I try not to keep my tinfoil hat on too tight. 706 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.559 There's a lot of people in this community that believe 707 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:29.360 that the whole UFO thing is completely manufactured, that aliens 708 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.760 aren't real, and it's our government trying to pull a 709 00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:34.840 fast one like they always do. I think that may 710 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.000 be part of it. That may be a piece of it, 711 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.400 but I don't think that's the whole puzzle. I don't 712 00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:41.760 think that's the big picture. What do you think? 713 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.400 Well, you know, I often ask that I've never heard 714 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:48.519 any government ever say are these beings intelligent? No one's 715 00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:50.239 told me that, you know, did they have an IQ? 716 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.639 I mean, I don't know. I don't agree with Sagan. 717 00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:58.079 I agree more, maybe a little bit more with Hawkins 718 00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.880 and his point that if they're is intelligent life out there, 719 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:07.000 it's most likely one of two things. They're explorers and 720 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:13.039 they may not even have the capacity for empathy. That 721 00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:15.760 it's just life, it's another form of life, and they 722 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.679 simply document it and go on. The second option is 723 00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:23.639 is that they're not friendly, and that what we don't 724 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:28.679 realize is that reality the universe, This universe is very deadly, 725 00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:33.320 it's very competitive, that resources are very short, particularly like 726 00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:38.719 planets like this. Now. I don't know how you look 727 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.360 at things, but if I run, I read this Amaron tablets, 728 00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:48.599 they're they're their myth and their their folklore about the 729 00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:54.800 Ananaki and in Yale and the rest. That had to 730 00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:00.519 come from something. And that tells me that I believe 731 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:06.239 that this planet is still an experiment. You and I 732 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:12.719 came from simians, humans, and I don't care what anyone says. 733 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:14.400 You know, and people say, oh, no, I didn't come 734 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:16.559 from a monkey. I said, well, they explain the rh 735 00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:22.599 factor in your blood. I mean, tell me how that 736 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.880 got into our blood. It's in it's literally in our 737 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:32.119 freaking DNA. Well, why, well, it's because we came from monkeys. Now, 738 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:35.280 I have a book on my shelf from one professor 739 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:41.119 who believes that we were basically in this zoo. It 740 00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:44.159 was a very large zoo. This planet Earth is a 741 00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.199 very unstable planet to put life to begin with. You 742 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:50.039 think about it. You know, you have earthquakes, you have 743 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:55.440 tsunamis this our planet's very unstable. He believes what happened 744 00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.760 was that a group of these Simians ate the brains 745 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:05.559 of their comates, and it was through the digestion of 746 00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:10.800 the brain itself, the brain material that set a chain 747 00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:15.880 chemically within that those who participated of it, and they say, 748 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.719 that's where we come from. I don't know. So if 749 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.639 the government has got this disclosure thing coming, the way 750 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:29.039 I look at it, it's about control. It's about instealing fear, 751 00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.920 because you're going to have most Christians thinking it's Jesus 752 00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:35.719 Christ coming back, or the other half thinking it's Lucifer 753 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.800 and Satan taking round and that these are the demons. 754 00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:42.159 Now as you're telling me that they're non terrestrial, well 755 00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:44.440 what does that mean? How they get here? What is? 756 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.519 And that's where things really I think get crazy. 757 00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:56.559 Well, will we see the either manufactured or legitimate alien 758 00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:58.119 invasion scenario soon? 759 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.920 Bruce sees all you know? And I give him because 760 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.679 the dude's got some videos out there. I mean, I 761 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.639 just did a show on this on my channel. Did 762 00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.760 we land on the Moon? Now? I showed the evidence 763 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.639 that we did. But I talked to Jene Cernon before 764 00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:20.599 he passed over. Was on a flight from Orlando into Houston, 765 00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:26.320 and he told me, he said, Wayne, we're not alone. 766 00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:29.679 He says, I'll take this to my grave, and he did. 767 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.639 But he said we're not alone. So I had no 768 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.400 reason to doubt the man. He was the last known 769 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:41.079 human to walk on the moon, and he said, we're 770 00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:46.000 not alone. Okay, So what are we being set up for? 771 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.000 There has to be a purpose, you know, it's that 772 00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:53.760 great line in the Avengers. So why has Loki got 773 00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:57.840 us all here? Why is this all this happening? Well, 774 00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:02.039 there's a purpose for it. Someone is manipulating for they 775 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:04.400 are there an event or conclusion. 776 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:09.920 And yet it's one of the most obvious probabilities if 777 00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:13.480 you look at abduction scenarios, if you look at the 778 00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:17.440 fact that people wake up in situations where they're being 779 00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:21.719 experimented on medically, where they have medical situations going on, 780 00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:26.960 where they're seemingly meeting their hybrid children, having genetic experimentation. 781 00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:31.960 I've had plenty of abductees who even tell me that 782 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.800 during the experience, they will ask, what are we doing. 783 00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:39.960 We are fixing something, we are upgrading something on you, 784 00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:43.079 we're adding something to you, and we're putting a tracker 785 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:46.920 on you. Well, that's what we do to animals. That's 786 00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:50.559 what we do to the animals that we experiment on. 787 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.760 So that makes too much sense, doesn't it. 788 00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:58.400 Right? Hey, Chris, how about this one. So in my 789 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.280 former religion, we were because I studied prophecy. I studied 790 00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:05.920 under some good good men, you know, Hilton Sutton is 791 00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.679 one of them. So the rapture thing, and when we 792 00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:12.000 first started this, we talked about Tim Lahay and his 793 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.840 you know, the The Left Behind series. What if we 794 00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.519 turned the rapture around from a mass alien abduction. 795 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.760 Yeah, we're primed for it. And if we got reports 796 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:31.920 that suddenly thousand and tens of thousand, well we already 797 00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:35.440 have that. They're they're they're right now. This is the 798 00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:40.280 weirdest thing in the United States. Over a million people disappear, 799 00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:46.840 no no, no evidence of what happened to him. They're gone. 800 00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.920 And and our federal effort, the Department of Justice have 801 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:54.559 known this. Local law enforcements have known this. So what's happening? 802 00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:58.199 You know, we might just see a reaction from the masses. 803 00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.239 If there was an attack from one of the spacecraft 804 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.320 that we're reporting in the news, one of these tic 805 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.800 TACs came along and blew up a military base or 806 00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:12.760 even civilians. Had they injured a bunch of civilians, that 807 00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:16.000 would get the attention I believe of the masses. It 808 00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:20.039 would get the fear rolling, the desired fear campaign going. 809 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.840 And we have our new boogeyman, instead of al Qaeda, 810 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:29.840 instead of COVID, we have Yeah, we have to. 811 00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:32.519 Think about it. Now, wait a minute, let's get let's 812 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:35.519 just's get real about this. Biden is in a very 813 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.239 we we know, the United States is in the midst 814 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:41.719 of a well, the Kuda ta It took place, you know, 815 00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:45.719 way before twenty twenty, but the Kudataw is in full 816 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.880 bloom right now. You think about it. An alien disclosure, 817 00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:54.760 a potential alien invasion gets everybody's attention off that we 818 00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:57.519 get unfocused on the red, white, and blue. You and 819 00:54:57.559 --> 00:54:59.159 I are going to come out and by god, we're 820 00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:05.400 gonna kill ourselves some aliens. Yeah, and you know what, 821 00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:08.440 I'll pennamental on you. Damn good boy. I'm glad to 822 00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:10.760 see you there join us, you know. And that's what 823 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:14.159 would happen in a in an instant overnight, we would 824 00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.760 forget everything happening in the economy and everything else, because 825 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.400 now brother they're attacking us. What if that's the goal. 826 00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:27.880 And it usually seems like these high impact events only 827 00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:32.440 happen after the major election of the president has occurred. 828 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.400 So we're gonna have to wait till the president next 829 00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:41.039 president is elected and then the show can continue. You're right, 830 00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:42.559 You're right, that's interesting. 831 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:45.559 Well it's a very real possibility. 832 00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:46.400 Yeah. 833 00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:49.079 I mean, you know, we don't talk politics, but I 834 00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:51.639 was heavily you know, I was a registered lobbyist in 835 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:56.280 my career, and I was involved with what they called 836 00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:01.199 the ultra most extreme right concern to the political group. 837 00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:03.519 I was a member of that as a member of 838 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:08.440 the Inner Circle. And let me tell you what I'm 839 00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:10.360 going to say. We don't this is all part of 840 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:16.599 this this downgrade that just took place. It's the four 841 00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:21.960 fore telling something is really the monetary system that we 842 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:26.039 depend on is in a very unstable manner. We know this. 843 00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:29.159 That government itself, we're seeing for the first time in 844 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:33.440 our democracy where you have one branch now challenging the 845 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:37.039 authenticity and authority of another branch. That's a civil war. 846 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:42.159 And now we have you have ruling political figures that 847 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:48.840 are now playing high stake games, arresting, charging, positioning and 848 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.199 at some point I saw a psychologist talk about this 849 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.559 last night. At some point it's going to get too 850 00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:59.000 much for the average person and they're going to break. 851 00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.960 And the question he brought out, what is that breaking 852 00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:07.920 point going to? Look like? We're in the midst of 853 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:11.280 you know, let's say Russia goes ahead and drops two 854 00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:17.559 tactical nukes on the Ukrainian battlefront. I mean, this is 855 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.400 all real. And this is the fear factor that you 856 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.079 were talking about. Remember Joe Rogan on his show, the 857 00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:26.239 fear Factor. You know, we're in the casket now with 858 00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:31.400 the escorpions. Now put the damn snakes in there. But 859 00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:36.119 and and this is having another effect. If you don't 860 00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:40.639 have any type of what I would call a conscious center, 861 00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.679 that you're a spiritual being, you're not just another person, 862 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.519 well it gets pretty lonely really quickly, because the other 863 00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:55.559 alternative is that you become prey. Yeah. Yeah, And I said, 864 00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:59.480 we don't need that, Chris. I am convinced they have 865 00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:03.119 stopped the message of love. I ask people all the time, 866 00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:07.079 tell me a movement that actually for instance, the Woodstock movement, 867 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.400 Peace and love. Brother, I got that was my reality 868 00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:16.320 because why I was faced with going to Vietnam. I 869 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.239 mean many in my generation did. They didn't come back. 870 00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:22.679 By the way, did you hear they're going to be redoing. 871 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:26.400 They're going to restarting the draft. That's yeah, it's going 872 00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:28.280 to come out here in the next step right add 873 00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:32.920 during the August break. Uh, it's already, Yeah, I get ready, folks. 874 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:33.199 Uh. 875 00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:37.519 The question is to see or will this generation Z 876 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:44.679 actually comply. I don't know, but my point is there's 877 00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:49.960 no messaging, a rallying, there's no cause, there's no Every 878 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:51.840 cause is splintered and fractured. 879 00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.599 It's infiltrated too. Every time they have a genuine cause, 880 00:58:57.639 --> 00:58:59.000 it gets infiltrated. 881 00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:04.920 And yeah, yeah, my hope's in your generation. I see you, 882 00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.159 and I see writer and others of your generation, and 883 00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:13.400 it leaves me with hope and encouragement because you're you 884 00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.920 are in tune, you're very much awake, you're very much aware, 885 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.760 and your mind is not restricted into one particular direction 886 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:29.960 dogma or ideology. And that's the hope for mankind. Because 887 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:33.840 I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat. I'm a person. 888 00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:37.800 That's what I am. Address me as a person. I mean, 889 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:41.840 that's all I'm asking and I respect your right to exist, 890 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:43.639 just expect my right to exist. 891 00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:48.000 Very well, said Wayne. And they want us as far 892 00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.960 away from each other's ideology as possible. They want us 893 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:57.039 extreme right, extreme left. They want us extreme black, extreme white, 894 00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:01.079 straight gay. They want us hate seeing each other on 895 01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:04.559 every every angle so that we don't come together and 896 01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:09.000 realize who the real enemy is. But we're in interesting times, Wayne, 897 01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.400 definitely interesting times. And thank you for coming on. Always 898 01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.039 a fantastic conversation. 899 01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:16.400 This has been far out brother, I tell you what 900 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:21.400 enjoyed this. Yeah, I thank you. This is fantastic, Yes, sir. 901 01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.840 Now before you go, let the remind audience where they 902 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:24.679 can find. 903 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:28.119 All over come to r Wayne Steiger's primarily I'm on 904 01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:33.960 Rumble on Odyssey speaker, you know. Yeah, And there was 905 01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:36.679 another time when I did the Steiger Perspective that got 906 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:40.199 much more into the political and the occult aspect of 907 01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:43.360 what's going on, because there's a lot of cultism taking 908 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:47.719 place in DC right now that is blowing my freaking mind. 909 01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:51.280 You want to talk about disclosure, Chris, we can do 910 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.760 another show on that is the fact of what I'm 911 01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:59.679 seeing now coming out and you're going Yeah, there's something 912 01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:03.119 to say. You're areusly going on here, but YouTube check 913 01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:06.000 it out and you'll be entertained for sure. 914 01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:10.320 Excellent Wayne. We will do this again definitely, and until 915 01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.199 next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We will talk 916 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:17.599 again tomorrow. See all. Then, today, I want to welcome 917 01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:20.239 back to the show Wayne McRoy. He is an author 918 01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:25.199 and researcher who explores the hidden agendas linking modern technologies 919 01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:30.119 to their ancient alchemical roots in antiquity. Wayne, welcome back. 920 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:33.960 How you doing good, Chris? Thanks for having me back 921 01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:36.039 on again, Man, Always a pleasure to speak to you. 922 01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:38.880 Great having you back, Man. Been looking forward to this. 923 01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:43.800 I've been wondering just how many times can conspiracy theories 924 01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:48.920 become reality and the truth strangers in fiction. Since twenty twenty, 925 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:53.440 we've experienced events that were not only predicted by very 926 01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:58.480 brilliant researchers, but also seem to have a prophetic aspect 927 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:03.400 when compared to certain ancient spiritual text depending on your interpretation. 928 01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:08.119 As I said before, I told this story that I 929 01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:12.280 went to a small Christian school in junior high and 930 01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.840 I remember them showing us a video and it was 931 01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.320 supposed to depict the apocalypse would be like, what the 932 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.599 end of the world would be like. And the video 933 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.920 proceeds to show pandemics. 934 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.199 World wars, global. 935 01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:34.920 Psychological operations, and a fake UFO invasion. Now this was like, man, 936 01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:38.559 had to be very early nineties, when I was, late eighties, 937 01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:42.320 when I was when this was this video was produced, 938 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.079 and I thought it was hilarious at the time. You know, 939 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:51.239 it was such a low quality, easy production, and me 940 01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:53.719 and my friends would laugh at it. But fast forward 941 01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:57.840 to today and smack me and call me Karen. If 942 01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:01.320 ninety percent of these events portrayed in the film seemed 943 01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:06.360 to be occurring, If that being said, is all this planned? 944 01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.679 Are you manifesting this? Are we in some sort of simulation? 945 01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:14.719 Is there a divine plan? And some believe the next 946 01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:18.000 big event is going to be a staged UFO invasion. 947 01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:21.320 Now we're gonna get into this. We're get this a 948 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:24.119 lot more so, We've got a lot to get into. 949 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:27.519 But first remind the audience just a little bit about 950 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:28.920 yourself and your work. 951 01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.360 All right, man, Once again, I do appreciate you having 952 01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:36.440 me on here. I could be found over at Alchemictech 953 01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:39.519 Revolution at gmail dot com. If anyone wants to contact 954 01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:43.840 me directly. The Alchemical Tech Revolution podcast is now available 955 01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.920 out there on Spotify, at Apple Podcasts, and pretty much 956 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:50.639 anywhere else you find podcasts, and that's my main gig nowadays. 957 01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:53.639 I also am over on Rockfinn if we'll want to 958 01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:57.320 check it out over there, that's rkfin dot com, backslash, 959 01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:01.280 Wayne McRoy and the Bulk. But my work is focused 960 01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:06.079 on looking back, primarily at the texts of the Secret 961 01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:08.840 Society groups and applying them to things going on today. 962 01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:12.639 And we see so much, so much that that's been 963 01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:16.039 profits in the Bible in other places happening today. And 964 01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:18.559 just as you had let in here with the conversation, 965 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.119 we're at this precipice right now where all of these 966 01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:26.639 things that were once called conjecture or conspiracy theory or 967 01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:29.079 these types of things are beginning to manifest around us. 968 01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.400 So it has to make you wonder what in the 969 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.079 world's going on here. And we're seeing a big hush 970 01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:38.559 right now for this whole UFO Alien agenda narrative that's 971 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:41.239 been showing up over and over again in the public. 972 01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.079 So that being the case, I see this as being 973 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:49.679 a manifestation of a thing that has been predicted in 974 01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:53.320 the past, and we're going to go through that very 975 01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.920 shortly here. In my estimation from the things I see, 976 01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.239 they're putting all the tails out there, Like they just 977 01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:02.000 recently talked about these congres national hearings on the UAP 978 01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.320 agenda here, that's what they call it now, unidentified aerial phenomena. 979 01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.639 They've shifted back, they've shifted back to that description of it. 980 01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:15.519 They're trying to rebrand UFOs essentially. So I find that 981 01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:18.360 in and of itself interesting because I'm a big proponent 982 01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:22.480 of taking a part language to understand what's being leveraged 983 01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:25.320 in certain ways. So I've been really taking a lot 984 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:29.119 of time focus on this whole UFO thing as of late, 985 01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:32.159 and much of my work in research now that's originally 986 01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.320 where I started researching, was in the UFO field, when 987 01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:37.519 I came across all kinds of other things that made 988 01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:40.320 down these other rabbit holes. And I tell people I 989 01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:43.039 accidentally became an expert in a cult philosophy because of that. 990 01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.880 So that being the case, it's amazing how all these 991 01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.320 things tie together at the topmost levels and how they 992 01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:52.480 interconnect in so many ways. And the whole UFO thing 993 01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.239 is part and parcel of that. We see it's a 994 01:05:56.320 --> 01:06:00.840 fational crux for the upcoming events world, these things that 995 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:05.000 have been predicted by ancient texts and also by many 996 01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:08.320 people throughout the ages here and we see it all 997 01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:10.719 coming together and at of this relates back to a 998 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:14.559 notion that came about, primarily in nineteen ninety four at 999 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.800 the writing of Surge Monass of a book called Project 1000 01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:24.360 Blue Beem talking about this false alien invasion narrative. Now, 1001 01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:28.079 to be clear, there is no recorded government gram called 1002 01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:31.559 Project Blue Bean, and people will make that kind of 1003 01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:34.079 an argument all day. It's an acknowledged thing within the 1004 01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:37.960 conspiracy culture, isn't it Project Blue Bean being a reality? Now, 1005 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:44.280 certainly these technologies do exist, these projection technologies, hologram technologies, 1006 01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:46.679 these kind of things, they do certainly exist, and there 1007 01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:49.599 are programs that have shown these and demonstrated these in 1008 01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:52.840 the public, But there is no acknowledged Project Blue Bean. 1009 01:06:53.400 --> 01:06:57.159 So Serge Monask came out with this writing and there's 1010 01:06:57.159 --> 01:06:59.039 a lot of legends and stuff that have cropped up 1011 01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:02.360 around that. I guess he died in nineteen ninety seven 1012 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.519 or ninety eight, shortly after coming forward with this information, 1013 01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:08.599 and he claimed this was a NASA project, but you 1014 01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:12.000 can find no such project in the literature anywhere. But 1015 01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:16.760 he set up this whole way of thinking for people 1016 01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:21.480 since then. So we have this notion of a false 1017 01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:26.400 alien invasion, and we also have some other corroborating information 1018 01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:31.920 that's come out from alleged whistleblowers within the various organizations 1019 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:36.039 such as NASA. Carol Rosen came out, you know, after 1020 01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.280 the fact, and said foreigner von Braun had warned her 1021 01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.199 that they were going to play this whole alien card 1022 01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:45.280 in the end. He said, first it would be like terrorists, 1023 01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.960 and then it would be asteroids, and then it would 1024 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.320 be the alien card. And he warned her and urged 1025 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:55.039 her to try to stop the weaponization of space. So 1026 01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:57.559 a lot of this has to do with the military 1027 01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.800 industrial complex and those run in the show, within this 1028 01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:05.119 military industrial complex trying to set up some type of 1029 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:10.719 an infrastructure based in the technologies around space or space technologies, 1030 01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:14.320 as von brunclaimed. So you got to wonder what in 1031 01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:16.680 the world are they trying to set up and why 1032 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:19.760 are they going to use this alien agenda to push 1033 01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:23.000 and promote that. So you're looking into this and you 1034 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:27.239 find many of these different links. And in my research 1035 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:31.840 and the things I've been able to look at, I always, invariably, 1036 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.800 no matter where I look at this, I always end 1037 01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:37.359 up in one of two places, and it's always both. 1038 01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:39.960 If you go back as far in time as you 1039 01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.840 can and trace back a lot of these writings and 1040 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.239 these ideas as far back in time as you can, 1041 01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:48.319 you always arrive at what's called the ancient mystery schools 1042 01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:52.239 and the secret society groups that have been brought forward 1043 01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:55.760 from those. So that being the case, you go back 1044 01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:58.159 in as far in history as you can, that's what 1045 01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:01.920 you find. And if you look forward into the invariable 1046 01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:06.079 near future, you always find the end goal thereof which 1047 01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:10.119 in the modern age we call transhumanism. So this is 1048 01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:15.159 the fulfillment of what these ancient mystery schools called the 1049 01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:18.960 Great Work or the Philosopher's Stone, or all these types 1050 01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.039 of ideas, and it relates to attaining immortality and becoming 1051 01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:25.960 a gods in this physical realm in which we live. 1052 01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.399 So they want to do that, know uncertain terms, These 1053 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.479 powers that be in this world, these dark occultists who 1054 01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:35.199 run things at the top of the power structure, and 1055 01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:38.000 that's absolutely what they are, and that's what I call them. 1056 01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:41.880 We don't know their names per se. We've heard a 1057 01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:45.039 lot of names thrown around as to who's actually running things, 1058 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:47.079 But this is the public face of it. 1059 01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:47.399 Now. 1060 01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:49.840 Behind the scenes, there's those that you've probably never even 1061 01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:52.199 heard of and don't know who they are, that are 1062 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:56.039 running this whole agenda. And there's a very small few 1063 01:09:56.359 --> 01:10:00.359 at the top that are actually putting out different ideas 1064 01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:04.920 and agendas that are adopted as policy by many different 1065 01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:08.560 countries and organizations throughout the world. And it's done through 1066 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.359 the auspices of three So we have all of these 1067 01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:16.800 notions have been introduced into the public mindset for the 1068 01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:20.000 longest time since at least eighteen nineties. So there's a 1069 01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:24.960 reason that this whole Project Bluebeam idea was allowed to 1070 01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:28.039 circulate out there, and it's been through concit culture for 1071 01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:31.279 decades now, and we're all pretty familiar with the notion. 1072 01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:33.920 But you have to wonder what's the end goal? If 1073 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:37.760 they really were going to stage an alien invasion, would 1074 01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:41.760 they really allow you to find out about that? Well, 1075 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.439 some would argue this is a concept called revelation of 1076 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:48.239 the method right, which is sometimes known in conspiracy circles 1077 01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.720 as predictive programming, and that's an argument you could make. 1078 01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:54.239 I don't claim to know true nature of all of this, 1079 01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:58.760 but it seems to me the people, the social engineers 1080 01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:02.399 who run things and put these agendas in place, they 1081 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:04.600 like to hit us with a swerve every now and 1082 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:08.079 again with this stuff. So I don't know if this 1083 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:11.439 whole thing's going to manifest as an actual nuts and 1084 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:15.960 bolts alien invasion type of a scenario. We might be 1085 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:19.640 looking at something else, and I'll explore avenues of thought 1086 01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:21.840 that relate to that a little bit further down the 1087 01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:25.600 road here in Joe, because I think that's an allusion 1088 01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:29.279 to something else. I think it's an allegory for something 1089 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:31.359 else that they're going to present and that we won't 1090 01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:35.319 be looking for. And it has everything to do with 1091 01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:37.600 the events that have occurred over the course of the 1092 01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:40.920 past three years. And we could get a little bit 1093 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:41.840 into that here. 1094 01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:46.319 Yeah, before we do, I would love to touch on 1095 01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:50.279 what you've mentioned a few minutes ago about the the 1096 01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:54.399 ideology behind this and the end goal what you would call, 1097 01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:58.760 like you mentioned the great work, what this ideology is 1098 01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:02.600 all about, and it seems to be, you know, the 1099 01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:08.439 basic SYS trying to evolve men through technology into this 1100 01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:13.560 one androgynoust being that these are called groups believe that 1101 01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:17.079 at one time we were this one perfect being, and 1102 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:19.319 the only way for us to get back to that 1103 01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:24.000 is through a forced evolution of technology. Am I close 1104 01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:24.399 on that? 1105 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.119 Yeah, that's actually a pretty good approximation of what we 1106 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.520 can denote from looking back at their writings. They harken 1107 01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.279 back to a time that they call the Golden Age 1108 01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:37.439 or the Golden Period, a world that existed prior to 1109 01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:44.119 this one, wherein mankind was dual sext in one body, 1110 01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:50.159 he had the the aspects of the feminine and the 1111 01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:54.199 masculine both embodied within him, and he was creative from self. 1112 01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:58.560 He could create just from self that way and multiply. Well, 1113 01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:01.119 if you look back at the teachings of the road A, 1114 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.760 Crucians and other groups, you see that this was a 1115 01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:07.359 period before the modern era. Here, this was a world 1116 01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:10.039 that existed prior to this one in a different time. 1117 01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:13.039 And some of these teachings get a little convoluted by 1118 01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:16.000 the secret Society groups, but it's all essentially part and 1119 01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:17.840 part of the same thing. So they're hearkening back to 1120 01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.079 this age that they refer to as the Saturn period 1121 01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:24.119 where it was the golden age of mankind, where man 1122 01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:28.560 existed in a paradisical type state, but he was this 1123 01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:32.239 bull sex being. He was able to create in and 1124 01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:39.399 of himself bodily, but this was something that didn't have 1125 01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:43.840 the spiritual connection or connotation at the time that it was. 1126 01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:47.479 So this was something man was able to reproduce, much 1127 01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:50.000 like a plant does. But at the same token, he 1128 01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:53.479 also had consciousness comparable to that of a plant during 1129 01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:57.079 this period, so he was not really self aware at 1130 01:13:57.079 --> 01:13:58.920 that point. And this is what they teach in some 1131 01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:03.039 version or another in this secret schools. So at one 1132 01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:06.399 point or another, what they seek to do is go 1133 01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:09.800 back to this time or this golden age, this paradise 1134 01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:13.159 on Earth as they refer to it. But they want 1135 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:16.760 to do so with the intellect of mankind intact. And 1136 01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:18.880 that's what they're seeking to do. They want to re 1137 01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:24.399 evaluate this world we're in and in a mystical sense, 1138 01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:26.960 they want to bring about the fruition of this this 1139 01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:32.520 paradise with the notion of having our intellect intact. Because 1140 01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:36.399 at the end of the day, the big main premise 1141 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:39.279 to these individuals, these dark ocultas who run things that's 1142 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:43.760 important is they believe that through intellect, mankind can ascend 1143 01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:47.720 to the next level and deify himself and become gods 1144 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:51.000 of this place. Be the gods, be the creators, be 1145 01:14:51.079 --> 01:14:54.600 the bulders, the master builders of this place. A lot 1146 01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:58.279 of language hearkens to the secret society groups, a lot 1147 01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:00.720 of it. Free Masonic people are most familiar with the 1148 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:05.199 Freediesons as a secret society, so we find ourselves referring 1149 01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:08.199 to many of in their terms. But essentially, when you 1150 01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:10.960 go back and you look at the old teachings, this 1151 01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:13.079 is what they want to re establish. They want to 1152 01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:17.000 re establish man as a being who's able to create 1153 01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:21.439 just by himself. He doesn't need a partner to do so. 1154 01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:27.239 And that being the case, it's about a form of apotheosis, 1155 01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:29.760 as they also like to call it. And they see 1156 01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:32.720 that being something that is within their grasp here in 1157 01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:35.359 the modern era through the use of high technology and 1158 01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.239 through this transhumanist notion of things. So what are they 1159 01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:43.039 doing with this While they're trying to eliminate variety out 1160 01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:45.399 of the equation. They want to merge the two gender 1161 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:49.439 principles back together again in an androgynist type state. And 1162 01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:54.199 we see this manifesting in the modern world through things 1163 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.119 like this transgender ideology and all of that stuff, and 1164 01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:02.960 a lot of it a lie with these teachings, and 1165 01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:06.239 that's the thing. Much of what's been done is a 1166 01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:10.880 perversion of what the original state of things was or 1167 01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:14.359 has been, what the original intentions of the alchemists were. 1168 01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:18.319 They've taken the inversion principle and applied in this way, 1169 01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:25.319 always stating that they have these wonderful or good intentions 1170 01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.840 for mankind as a whole. But at the end of 1171 01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:32.079 the day, what's really happening is it's all about the 1172 01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:34.800 betterment of these select few people at the top of 1173 01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.039 the power structure in this world. They want to maintain 1174 01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:40.079 their grip on power. They want to affirm themselves as 1175 01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:44.000 the gods and rulers of this place, and they utilize 1176 01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:47.439 some of these old, old alchemical principles and ancient sciences 1177 01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:50.680 to get there. They leverage that against the masses, and 1178 01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:54.039 they seek to bring about this type of state of 1179 01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:57.039 being wherein they are the gods of this place and 1180 01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:02.680 they can achieve this alleged Golden Age or some replication 1181 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:05.479 of this type of Golden age. That's what they're seeking. 1182 01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:08.840 But what does this look like? And that's what we're 1183 01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:12.239 getting to right now, because, like I said, what has 1184 01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:16.279 happened is through the course of time and through revisionist 1185 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:21.560 history in space, we see that what's happened is they've 1186 01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:24.560 taken a lot of these old ideas and inverted them 1187 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:27.279 in and perverted them against the natural order of things. 1188 01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:29.840 And that's what they're seeking to do. And they try 1189 01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:32.039 to put as positive as spin on this stuff as 1190 01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:34.359 Pablo and say, it's going to be beneficial for everybody, 1191 01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:36.920 but when it comes down to brass tacks, it's really not. 1192 01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:40.319 It's only for a select few that are looking to 1193 01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:43.399 reap the benefits thereof, and the rest of us they're 1194 01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:47.399 trying to lock into this type of material paradigm in 1195 01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:50.960 which we exist right now. And all of these ideas, 1196 01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:55.159 although they seem kind of disjointed, all these things connect together. 1197 01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:59.560 All these different conspiracy type top ideas, they all join together. 1198 01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:03.840 So if you're talking ufbos, if you're talking about even 1199 01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:07.159 Christian theology and the fulfillment of the Book of Revelation 1200 01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:10.560 in the end times, all of these scenarios do tie 1201 01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:14.880 together in this way. They most certainly do. And I 1202 01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:19.520 like to tell people. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. 1203 01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:23.119 I always tell people at the end of the day, 1204 01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:27.079 when you look at this stuff, there's one overarching agenda 1205 01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.720 and one granddaddy of all conspiracies going on right now, 1206 01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.159 and that is the transhumanist agenda. Because all roads lead 1207 01:18:34.199 --> 01:18:36.960 to rome in this regard, they all lead to the 1208 01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:40.720 same thing. So, like I said, whatever I look at, 1209 01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:43.960 no matter what topic it is, it always is in 1210 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.199 one of those two places, back in the ancient mystery 1211 01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.279 schools and the occult ties to it, or in if 1212 01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:54.560 you look forward to its its inevitable ends, it's always 1213 01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:59.159 this transhuman notion, this posthuman type of an idea that 1214 01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:03.600 they're putting together. So one end leads to the other. 1215 01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:05.600 You could trace back the roots of this as far 1216 01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:07.560 back in time as we could look, and we could 1217 01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:10.600 see the culmination of that coming up within the very 1218 01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:13.800 near future. If these people get their way, they see 1219 01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:17.319 it as being possible now with the modern technologies they have. 1220 01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:21.439 They want to achieve this goal and been successfully socially 1221 01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:25.720 engineering the public to align with their goals, and people 1222 01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:28.960 don't even realize how they've been manipulated. And because they 1223 01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:32.760 use notions and ideas that most people are not familiar 1224 01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:36.159 with in the modern era because we've been taught primarily 1225 01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.399 to think of these things as silly or nonsensical. They 1226 01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:45.680 use tools like astrology and tools like language, hidden language, 1227 01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:49.399 what they call in the Freemasons the green language, also 1228 01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:52.920 called the phonetic kabbala, also called the language of the birds. 1229 01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:57.319 There's many distinctions for this. They use hidden language and 1230 01:19:57.399 --> 01:20:01.720 the language of symbology to communicate ideas and to defer 1231 01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:06.399 ideas into the public consciousness through the use of archetypal 1232 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:10.880 energies and archetypes are a huge notion that ties into this, 1233 01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:13.319 and they leverage off them all the time, and people 1234 01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:15.960 don't recognize them on a conscious level for what they are. 1235 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:20.000 So I think Manly P. Hall said, when man learns 1236 01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:22.399 to read the language of symbolism, a great veil will 1237 01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:26.039 fall off of his eyes, or some such notion. I may. 1238 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:29.960 So they're setting up these events. It's up to us 1239 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.279 to have an emotional response and reaction to create the 1240 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:39.399 archetypal energy or ed Gregork energy that will manifest these 1241 01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:41.720 ideas into our reality. 1242 01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:42.039 Right. 1243 01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:46.039 Well, that's kind of the premise that I've seen. When 1244 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.560 I'm looking at this, it seems almost undeniable that they 1245 01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:52.399 try to inculcate these ideas into the minds of men, 1246 01:20:52.920 --> 01:20:56.640 leveraging these old alchemical tools to do so. You see, 1247 01:20:56.640 --> 01:20:59.800 they understand something about this reality that we don't. These 1248 01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:02.439 are occultists at the top of the poorer structure, and 1249 01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:06.079 much of this they've kept hidden within the auspices of 1250 01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:09.840 the secret societies and occult fraternities through the ages. And 1251 01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:12.680 they call this magic. You could call it whatever you want. 1252 01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:16.079 Thinking in terms of magic, they've taught us to think 1253 01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:20.720 that secilly notion. That's childish thinking all of that. But 1254 01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:24.039 if you just redefine the term magic as causal engineering, 1255 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.640 then you can understand what's been done here. They're using 1256 01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:33.199 different frameworks that the human mind doesn't constantly recognize in 1257 01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:37.039 the modern era because we've been taught to think of 1258 01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:39.439 that type of a notion as having nothing to it. 1259 01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:45.640 And it's an important concept. It's about images, images and symbols. 1260 01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:50.880 They invoke this archetypal thought form within the human mind, 1261 01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:54.159 and these people are masters of manipulating that. Now, what 1262 01:21:54.359 --> 01:21:57.439 is this archetypal thought form, Well, it varies from symbol 1263 01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:00.359 to symbol, and the intention that's embedded in the symbol, 1264 01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:02.479 and all of this ties back to what is the 1265 01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:07.000 nature of consciousness? And this is wherein we have very 1266 01:22:07.039 --> 01:22:10.119 many problems in trying to relate to these things because 1267 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:12.880 you have to think deeply and clearly about this topic 1268 01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:15.880 to understand some of these concepts, and most people are 1269 01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:18.920 not accustomed to doing so. So, in turn, what are 1270 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:21.800 we talking about when we're talking about an archetype? Now, 1271 01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:26.119 this is something that the unconscious human mind recognizes because 1272 01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:33.560 of inherent experience or inherent genetic predisposition to this. Now 1273 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:37.760 they call it in modern terms, they call it epigenetic 1274 01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:41.800 memory or genetic memory. It's called in many of the 1275 01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:47.319 Shamanic traditions as ancebtle memory. It's called very many different things. 1276 01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:53.479 It's called the ecashic record some occultics, but essentially everybody 1277 01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:56.960 agrees there's this notion there that there's this background information, 1278 01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:02.720 this information field that we access just based upon our existence, 1279 01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:06.359 that it's embedded in our DNA in a sense. So 1280 01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:10.560 this whole idea archetype, that's where in this lies. Your 1281 01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:15.159 unconscious mind will recognize an archetypal energy form and it 1282 01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:18.800 will affect you on a subconscious level, which will eventually 1283 01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:23.680 alter your conscious behavior, but you don't recognize it. Because 1284 01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:26.840 you don't recogn it empowers that idea all the more 1285 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:29.600 so these people that have learned how to leverage these 1286 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:34.279 archetypal thought forms in that way and manipulate the public 1287 01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:37.439 into accepting things that they normally wouldn't or doing things 1288 01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:41.479 that they normally wouldn't. And this is actually acknowledged in 1289 01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:44.079 the mainstream. So if anybody's thinking this is like woo 1290 01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:47.199 woo stuff, this is acknowledged. I would urge anybody out 1291 01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:49.520 there to look up a book called The Changing Images 1292 01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:53.960 of Man. This was Stanford Institute's study with researchers like 1293 01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:58.159 Margaret Meade and Joseph Campbell in on it. And in 1294 01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:04.239 this work they acknowledge that they will use mythology and 1295 01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:09.359 allegory and things of that nature symbolically to change man's 1296 01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:12.399 image of himself and to change man's image of what 1297 01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:16.119 the universe really is. So this is something that's acknowledged 1298 01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:19.960 in the scientific mainstream, and it's by some movers and 1299 01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:23.600 shakers in the social engineering portions of this world. So 1300 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:28.079 there's something to this. They use, they manipulate mythology and 1301 01:24:28.279 --> 01:24:33.079 these different archetypal energies and ideas to change human behavior 1302 01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:37.319 mass psychology, and this is acknowledged in that work in 1303 01:24:37.359 --> 01:24:40.399 particular and others as well. But that is the best 1304 01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:42.399 one I could point out because it says in there 1305 01:24:42.399 --> 01:24:46.159 and know uncertain terms, we understand there's some subjective about 1306 01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.680 human behavior that perhaps we don't quite have a full 1307 01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:53.159 grasp of. But that's why we need subjective things like 1308 01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:58.079 mythology and different storytelling motifs and stuff like that to 1309 01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:02.359 influence human behavior. So they recognize this a subjective thing 1310 01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:05.960 that can't be objectively measured accurately, but they can still 1311 01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:08.960 leverage it in certain ways to get a generalized effect. 1312 01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:12.439 So this is what's it revealed in that book in particular. 1313 01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:16.520 So I think, what's going on now? Getting back tying 1314 01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:18.960 back to the original topic we're talking about, because I 1315 01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:20.399 know this goes all over the place, but. 1316 01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:24.199 Well, we taxed everything, so we got to go everywhere, right. 1317 01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:29.039 I guess so, But going back to the archetype involved here, 1318 01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:33.159 we're talking about the archetype of the alien, and there's 1319 01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:38.880 just so much that is attached to that idea subtle 1320 01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:43.000 nuance that most people don't pick up upon because we're 1321 01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:49.039 not talking that way, we've been in sort of programmed 1322 01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:52.720 through science fiction media to look at aliens as a 1323 01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:56.199 certain type of thing. Right, we're thinking in terms of 1324 01:25:56.279 --> 01:26:01.960 it's an extra terrestrial, it's from another plan in outer space. 1325 01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:06.640 So that's what they've been trying to engineer into the 1326 01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:10.560 cultural mindset, and I think they've been hugely successful at this. 1327 01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:13.239 By any thoughts there, Chris, before I go a little 1328 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:14.359 further down the road. 1329 01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:16.640 Well, that's exactly what I want to get to. I 1330 01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:24.039 wanted to explore this psychological operation of UFOs and extraterrestrials 1331 01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:28.640 since it really started getting introduced into the black after 1332 01:26:29.199 --> 01:26:33.560 World War Two that you see very few accounts of 1333 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:38.319 what people would really understand as extraterrestrial encounters before this 1334 01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:41.239 time period. It was around the forties and fifties when 1335 01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:45.159 we really start seeing the flying saucer phenomena pick up, 1336 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:50.039 and it evolved from are based on different events that 1337 01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:53.239 would occur that would, just like we were talking about earlier, 1338 01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:57.399 shift the public consciousness into a certain direction. It went 1339 01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:01.199 saucers to these tic TACs that we see now and 1340 01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:06.560 other strange amorphous lights and different types of would look 1341 01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:11.680 like plasma entities and things like that, but the phenomenon 1342 01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:17.560 itself seems to be evolving as we experience these events. 1343 01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:22.239 But these events are most likely being manufactured in some 1344 01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:25.680 way based on a lot of the evidence that we have. 1345 01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:29.319 And I want to also get your insights into how 1346 01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:32.319 deep this goes? How deep of an operation is this? 1347 01:27:33.479 --> 01:27:37.079 Do you believe that the military is actually involved with 1348 01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:43.880 possibly abducting people, these nefarious groups actually taking people, or 1349 01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:49.079 other types of mind control techniques like drugs or any 1350 01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:52.560 maybe some advanced technology. If you look at the Cameleo 1351 01:27:52.720 --> 01:27:56.720 story by Robert Guffey, even in the nineties, they were 1352 01:27:56.800 --> 01:28:02.560 employing some of these very extra dream tactics of surveillance 1353 01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:08.520 and harassment using extremely advanced technologies. So how far do 1354 01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.119 you think that this goes? How deep is the operation? 1355 01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:17.399 Well, I think it's definitely a very deep operation. And 1356 01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:22.119 you consider and keep in mind that the special access 1357 01:28:22.159 --> 01:28:25.680 programs within the auspices of the military industrial complex are 1358 01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:29.039 bare minimum thirty to fifty years in advance of what 1359 01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:32.560 we consider the most high tech in the mainstream. Then 1360 01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:36.600 you have to realize there's technologies that have been operated 1361 01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:38.439 in secret for a long time that we may be 1362 01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:42.640 largely unaware of. Even still, so with that being the case, 1363 01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.319 we can see that something like that is definitely a possibility. 1364 01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:50.239 So I don't discredit the idea of mill labs as 1365 01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:53.600 they're known military abductions, and I think a large portion 1366 01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:56.800 of the phenomena is related to that. I think a 1367 01:28:56.880 --> 01:28:59.800 large portion of what we call the UFO phenomena in 1368 01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:03.119 the modern day is largely human tech. And I've been 1369 01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:07.079 able to trace back a lot of the linear progression 1370 01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:10.840 of this technology all the way back to Nikola Tesla 1371 01:29:11.079 --> 01:29:15.159 and even past him. When it became more further developed. 1372 01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:19.319 It became developed by a gentleman in t Townsend Brown. Now, 1373 01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:24.720 this guy was employed by the Naval Department and was 1374 01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:29.439 very highly regarded in the intelligence community and by those 1375 01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:34.520 different groups within this military industrial complex. He was highly regarded. 1376 01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:37.840 He was an intelligent guy, and he discovered something in 1377 01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:40.479 his youth in the nineteen twenties that's called the Byfield 1378 01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:43.279 Brown effect. And a lot of this relates back to 1379 01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:48.119 electrogravitic propulsion systems that have been developed by the military 1380 01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:52.079 and others. At least that's my viewpoint. And I see 1381 01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:56.359 the evidence of this everywhere, but can't really prove it 1382 01:29:56.399 --> 01:29:58.960 because they until they come out and they say, yeah, 1383 01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:03.239 we have electric gravitic or gravity control device technology that 1384 01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:08.279 we've been employeing within the military complex for a while now. 1385 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:11.159 Until they come forward and say that, you can't absolutely 1386 01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:14.439 say that with proof positive because the way they've done 1387 01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:18.560 this and develop these technologies, they've done it in a 1388 01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:22.520 way where they bypass the standard protocols of government oversight. 1389 01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:27.199 What they do is they subcontract out these projects to corporations, 1390 01:30:27.720 --> 01:30:31.039 and these corporations take in these projects, and of course 1391 01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:33.479 those that work on it within the corporation have to 1392 01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:37.159 have special top secret access and clearance and security clearance 1393 01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:40.039 and this kind of thing, so they get vetted for that, 1394 01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:43.680 and when they have this access, then they're given need 1395 01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:47.640 to know basis for certain programs within these corporations that 1396 01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:51.319 take on these projects. And what happens is because it's 1397 01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:55.479 a corporation developing the technologies they're in, this is not 1398 01:30:55.600 --> 01:31:00.439 something that can be revealed through FOYA Freedom of Information 1399 01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:04.119 Act clearance. So if you go and give a FOIL 1400 01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:09.399 request to say some military agency or some other quasi 1401 01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:13.239 governmental agency looking for UFO information, you're not going to 1402 01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:15.880 find it because they could hide it in the corporation 1403 01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:20.720 under the auspices of what they call proprietary information, and 1404 01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:23.840 therefore they don't have to reveal those secrets to the 1405 01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:28.720 public through FOYA request. So there's no accountability and there's 1406 01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:30.920 no way to really find out what they've been doing, 1407 01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:35.560 short of perhaps I don't know, the threat of arrest 1408 01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:39.119 or being tried for treason or some such thing by 1409 01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.880 the United States Congress if they don't reveal what they have. 1410 01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:44.880 I don't see that really happening. But they are pushing 1411 01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:48.479 for this UFO disclosure idea because many of these technologies 1412 01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:53.000 I think are the key to moving forward here in 1413 01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:55.840 the future. I think we can alter our world. If 1414 01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:58.960 these technologies ever came to the forefront, it would absolutely 1415 01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:03.159 overnight change world in ways we could only begin to imagine. 1416 01:32:03.239 --> 01:32:05.119 And I think it would really upset the apple cart 1417 01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:10.279 in the beginning, because our entire financial system would collapse overnight. 1418 01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:17.600 When you're not dependent upon oil as an energy source anymore. Well, 1419 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:20.560 that completely rearranges all the deck chairs on the Titanic 1420 01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:22.000 in a sense, doesn't it. 1421 01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:26.760 Do you think they're going to the extent of interfering 1422 01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:31.760 in people's lives as far as possible abductions are drugging 1423 01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:36.560 people to perpetuate this agenda. 1424 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:39.960 I think it's been done. I don't know what exactly 1425 01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:44.079 is their purpose for doing that, maybe to further the 1426 01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:45.079 whole Well, we. 1427 01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:49.479 Have plenty of experiencers quote unquote experiencers and abductees that 1428 01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:54.640 have had these incredible experiences that they in turn go 1429 01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:56.840 onto to a conference we're getting, They go on the 1430 01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:00.640 big talk shows and they become very well known, and 1431 01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:05.520 they are perpetuating a certain UFO narrative. And they have 1432 01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.960 a lot of folks that are former intelligence right now. 1433 01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:12.920 They are former military that have become very entrenched in 1434 01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:16.319 the UFO community and they are speaking on behalf of 1435 01:33:16.359 --> 01:33:20.600 the UFO community, and they're involved with UFO research, and 1436 01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:24.279 some of even admitted that they are still involved with 1437 01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.880 counter intelligence operations at the same time that they're in 1438 01:33:27.960 --> 01:33:32.079 the UFO community. So that alone sends up enough red flags. 1439 01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:36.520 But I think that people are being inserted into community 1440 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:40.520 at the least to perpetuate some of these narratives. But 1441 01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:47.479 as far as recreating an extraterrestrial experience with an individual 1442 01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:52.600 by a nefarious group, I've heard from individuals that they 1443 01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:54.079 believe that this is happening. 1444 01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:58.439 I don't know. I've heard from individuals as well that 1445 01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:02.760 this is certainly a thing. Can actually talk to a 1446 01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:04.800 lot of people who claim to have been involved with 1447 01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:09.840 a mill lab or a military abduction. So of course 1448 01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:14.000 they're trying to really push this whole notion of aliens, 1449 01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:15.800 and I think there's a lot of that. There's a 1450 01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:19.279 lot of infiltration in the UFO research community, and a 1451 01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:22.399 lot of people that claim to be former intelligence operatives 1452 01:34:22.399 --> 01:34:24.720 are in there. And if you know anything about the 1453 01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:28.760 intelligence community, there's no such thing as a former intelligence operative. 1454 01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:33.960 They never retire. They're bound until the day they die 1455 01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:37.960 to work for the agency. And here's the thing, and 1456 01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:41.640 a lot of people don't necessarily realize this. The intelligence community, 1457 01:34:41.640 --> 01:34:43.960 where do you think it got its ideas, from its 1458 01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:48.920 operational standards from from secret society groups. It's the same 1459 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:52.560 notion that goes on from there. The original secret society 1460 01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:56.920 groups were the original intelligence agencies. It's just been kind 1461 01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:00.680 of expanded out and blown out into this whole government 1462 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:04.600 funded operation now, and that's where it becomes extremely dangerous. 1463 01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:08.600 It's created a situation where you have a group of 1464 01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:13.920 people with no accountability out there operating ad hoc however 1465 01:35:13.960 --> 01:35:18.760 they want. So this sets up a situation wherein you 1466 01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:23.960 could have this runaway, breakaway civilization that's taken hold within 1467 01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:30.079 the structure in a parasitic type fashion of national governments 1468 01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:34.239 and innertional governments. So I think that's largely what's going on. 1469 01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:37.359 And who knows. I mean, all the things you hear 1470 01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:41.640 about UFOs and aliens that comes out, it's always a 1471 01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:45.720 second hand source. There's never any primary evidence that supports 1472 01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:48.920 any claims. It's always just, well, I saw a document 1473 01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:52.000 that says there were aliens, or I got a glimpse 1474 01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:55.680 through a dark hallway through a door at an alien 1475 01:35:55.720 --> 01:35:59.039 body or some such thing, that these aliens exist. And 1476 01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:02.560 you hear about these underground labs and stuff like that. 1477 01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:06.880 We're in there supposedly genetically engineering different things. And I 1478 01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:09.479 think that's another science that's largely been covered up in 1479 01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:13.199 the auspice of the military industrial complex too, is this 1480 01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:17.680 whole biological notion of cloning and genetic engineering that's gone on. 1481 01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:20.359 That's probably way further advance than we think. And I 1482 01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:22.720 think the only reason we haven't really seen a viable 1483 01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:25.720 quote unquote alien yet is because they haven't been able 1484 01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:28.880 to engineer one that would sufficiently pass the test of 1485 01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:33.039 the public as far as appearance goes. So we may 1486 01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:35.039 be seeing that in the near future. I don't know. 1487 01:36:36.159 --> 01:36:38.479 I don't claim to have the answers. I've studied this 1488 01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:42.920 phenomenon for a long time, and it's always invariably points 1489 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:45.520 in the two directions, the first of which is always 1490 01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:49.359 the occult there's always occult ties to this stuff, always. 1491 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:54.439 And the other direction is to the ends of this 1492 01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:57.920 transhumanist control grid that they seek to set up in 1493 01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:01.319 the world. And they're well under way in setting up 1494 01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:02.079 this system. 1495 01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:06.479 Let's get into let's get into some of those possibilities 1496 01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:09.720 you were talking earlier that you believe that it may 1497 01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:15.560 not necessarily be what we understand a traditional fake alien invasion, 1498 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:18.479 that they may have more layers to this than we 1499 01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:19.720 could ever be aware of. 1500 01:37:21.319 --> 01:37:23.960 Absolutely, And I'm going to go ahead, and we're going 1501 01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:25.359 to go back, and we're going to look at the 1502 01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:30.039 original War of the World's scenario by Orson Wells and 1503 01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:34.279 the Princeton Radio Group that occurred back in nineteen thirty eight, 1504 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:39.119 if memory serves me, thirty eight. Well, this whole operation 1505 01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:44.439 caused quite a national stir and actually It's said that 1506 01:37:44.479 --> 01:37:48.039 in Grover's Mills they destroyed their water tower thinking it 1507 01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.600 was one of these Marshan walkers. So this was a 1508 01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:54.640 psychological test, was an operation, and this is well acknowledged 1509 01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:57.960 by the Princeton Radio Group and a gentleman named Hadley 1510 01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:01.560 Cantrell that wrote a book based upon this. So they 1511 01:38:01.560 --> 01:38:04.960 were collecting data back then to see how the public 1512 01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:11.079 would react to a daily an invasion, essentially what they're 1513 01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:13.960 thinking would be And at that point they came to 1514 01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:19.359 some certain conclusions about that wherein they thought the public 1515 01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:24.640 perhaps would panic in such a way just based upon 1516 01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:28.680 the evidence that he's seen. And they also in so 1517 01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:33.000 doing they were gathering some more important information that and 1518 01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:35.520 this has to do everything to do with social engineering. 1519 01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:40.960 They were monitoring what the effects of radio broadcasts can 1520 01:38:41.159 --> 01:38:44.840 convince people as being true. And this was later applied 1521 01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:47.960 to the notion of television, the Internet, all the other 1522 01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:51.520 forms of media that we have now. The initiative they 1523 01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:54.760 collected from this Princeton Radio Group study that was this 1524 01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:58.800 source in Wells broadcast. That's one of the early things 1525 01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:02.119 that they used to come to the realization that, hey, 1526 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:06.079 we could use this as a programming tool. And they've 1527 01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:10.479 since done so, not just with radio and television, the Internet, 1528 01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:14.560 everything all across the board. And when you realize that 1529 01:39:14.920 --> 01:39:18.399 over ninety percent of all media is owned and controlled 1530 01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:24.720 by a very small group of corporations, and that the 1531 01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:29.319 information is all sent through central resources which are known 1532 01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:33.159 as newswire services, then you could see how they could 1533 01:39:33.239 --> 01:39:36.319 do this top down control in this top down dissemination 1534 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:39.960 of information. So they realized that they could hugely influence 1535 01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:43.800 public consciousness using these tools. They've only since doubled down 1536 01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:48.399 against that. So here's the whole notion here. So they've 1537 01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:51.840 they've come up with this alien archetype, this archetypal thing, 1538 01:39:51.960 --> 01:39:56.720 this unknown, this fear of the unknown in the human mind, 1539 01:39:57.399 --> 01:40:01.279 and this is the archetype they're leverage against people. Of course, 1540 01:40:01.279 --> 01:40:05.560 it's the fear archetype, fear of the unknown. And I 1541 01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:08.199 would say that what if the god is they've taken 1542 01:40:08.199 --> 01:40:11.920 this archetype, this alien motif and archetype, and they've leveraged 1543 01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:15.479 it against the human mind in this way, because what 1544 01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:18.239 do we know? Do you remember the story of War 1545 01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:21.079 of the World? What killed the motions in War of 1546 01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:30.640 the World? Germs, germs, bacteria now there's always through all 1547 01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:38.279 science fiction motifs. When you look at this whole alien motif, 1548 01:40:39.079 --> 01:40:44.760 there's always an attachment or a type of inference within 1549 01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:46.960 the narrative of disease. 1550 01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:48.880 Disease. 1551 01:40:50.520 --> 01:40:55.479 Just prior to the rollout of COVID, we had to 1552 01:40:55.640 --> 01:41:00.840 the Star's Academy come out revealing this alien information, and 1553 01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:03.319 we're seeing a continuation of that going on now that 1554 01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.840 they've only just recently brought this up after the whole 1555 01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:11.720 COVID pandemic situation. Remember, prior to the COVID pandemic situation, 1556 01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:15.359 you had to the Stars Academy and Tom DeLonge from 1557 01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:18.239 Link one to eighty two out there disseminating this information, 1558 01:41:18.319 --> 01:41:21.600 working with former intelligence officials like hal put Off. And 1559 01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:25.199 why is his name escaping me all over the place? 1560 01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:28.960 Who's the ons Alisondo? Thank you? 1561 01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:30.159 I don't know. 1562 01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:33.520 Sometimes the information escapes, But you have these guys out there. 1563 01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:36.720 We're promoting this at the time, and they came forward 1564 01:41:36.840 --> 01:41:40.920 with DeLonge and we're trying to get this information out there. 1565 01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:44.119 That's when this whole tic tac Ufo footage and everything surfaced. 1566 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:47.560 So they were laying the foundation. Then well, here's the thing. 1567 01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:51.119 We did a program on this on Crow Triple seven Radio. 1568 01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:54.319 It was episode number one sixty nine where we took 1569 01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:57.800 a part this whole the Star's Academy bit and this 1570 01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:01.119 whole notion. And remember this was prior to the pandemic, 1571 01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:06.800 wherein I began to notice many of the people that 1572 01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:09.880 were on de Lounge's team that he put together were 1573 01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:15.199 either virologists, microbiologists, or many of these other things that 1574 01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:18.880 don't seem to relate to any type of spacecraft idea 1575 01:42:19.079 --> 01:42:22.680 or space ideology. There were several of them on his team. 1576 01:42:23.119 --> 01:42:25.760 Now I don't remember their names and positions within to 1577 01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:27.680 the Stars Academy off the top of my head, but 1578 01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:30.319 we did an entire breakdown, We did a whole episode 1579 01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:33.680 on this on Grow Triple seven Radio. And then we 1580 01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:37.119 began to notice this attachment that seems to be a 1581 01:42:37.199 --> 01:42:40.439 motif that runs deep with the whole alien narrative that 1582 01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:44.720 attaches to the idea of viruses or bacteria or germs, 1583 01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:52.680 and I think there's a definitive connection there. So fast 1584 01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:55.560 forward a couple of years from when they were starting 1585 01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:59.479 to roll this out your role on UoT Disclosure and 1586 01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:02.720 then we and the onset of this pandemic, this alleged 1587 01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:09.439 pandemic that affected the world in many ways. So now 1588 01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:13.159 here we are post pandemic. They finally lifted most of 1589 01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:15.760 the restrictions and everything, and it's kind of faded off 1590 01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:18.720 into the sunset. Now now they're out there rolling out 1591 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:22.560 the alien agenda again, and in the meantime, you have 1592 01:43:22.760 --> 01:43:26.479 other people out there perhaps pushing thea that there will 1593 01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:29.880 be a future pandemic that's coming that will be worse 1594 01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:33.239 than this last one. Now, I would caution people pay 1595 01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:38.479 attention to this because maybe that's the alien invasion that 1596 01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:43.760 we're looking at here again, because let's face it, humanity 1597 01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:50.079 in reaction to the whole COVID thing pretty much willingly 1598 01:43:50.239 --> 01:43:55.079 gave away many of their human rights on a massive scale. 1599 01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:57.760 Now it's been said that I think it's sixty nine 1600 01:43:57.800 --> 01:44:00.880 percent of the overall world population and got at least 1601 01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:05.000 one of these COVID vaccines at least one dose. That's 1602 01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:10.239 a massive number of people, and that screams social engineering. 1603 01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:14.000 They tried to coerce people every way they can, almost 1604 01:44:14.159 --> 01:44:17.039 forced people in certain situations, Hey, you want to keep 1605 01:44:17.079 --> 01:44:20.560 your job, you need to go get this. Look what 1606 01:44:20.680 --> 01:44:24.479 they've done. Now, think back to the orson wells thing. 1607 01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:30.119 This is the culmination of what the data that they gathered. 1608 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.800 Then they learned the best ways to manipulate a society 1609 01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:39.760 with this archetype okay, the alien, which is the archetype 1610 01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:44.159 of fear of the unknown, and they put a face 1611 01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:46.600 or a personification on that. And much of the time 1612 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:50.359 that's what they do with these archetypal ideas. They will 1613 01:44:50.399 --> 01:44:53.119 present it as a symbol because see, when they give 1614 01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:56.159 you a symbol or they give you a personification of 1615 01:44:56.199 --> 01:45:00.199 a thing, it empowers it and then it can be 1616 01:45:00.319 --> 01:45:04.560 leveraged and used by those who understand the intention behind it. 1617 01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:08.199 This is the whole basis that mythology operates on. Do 1618 01:45:08.239 --> 01:45:12.000 you really think people in the ancient times were that 1619 01:45:12.840 --> 01:45:15.479 really the way we present them in our modern history 1620 01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:17.880 books stuff. Oh, they were backwards and they believe that 1621 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:20.039 such and such a god did this, and a god 1622 01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:23.640 did that. They weren't talking about gods. This was a 1623 01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:28.800 personification of natural energies that the people recognized that they 1624 01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:32.359 gave a name and a face to which empowered the 1625 01:45:32.479 --> 01:45:34.840 symbol or the archetype. And this is why Manly P. 1626 01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:38.840 Hall says, when man learns to recognize the language of symbology. 1627 01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:42.479 I think veil will fall from his eyes. That's exactly 1628 01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:47.680 what they mean. So when you recognize the archetype at play, 1629 01:45:48.319 --> 01:45:52.359 know that they're ramping up some sort of fear factor 1630 01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.079 or unknown ning and fear factor. Do you think that 1631 01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:57.079 was just a clever name for a TV show that 1632 01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:00.359 the Joe rogan on prior to him becoming such a 1633 01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:05.560 big deal. Really, so you'll kind of think about these things. 1634 01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:08.520 There's always the fear for we always have to have 1635 01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:13.600 the invisible enemy, or we wouldn't need Daddy government and 1636 01:46:13.680 --> 01:46:17.960 military industrial complex to protect us from said enemy, or 1637 01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:22.119 new modern science as our new religion so that they 1638 01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:25.920 can figure out a cure for any type of pandemic 1639 01:46:26.039 --> 01:46:27.960 or disease that may be threatening us. 1640 01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:31.680 Well, I'd urge anybody out there go ahead and just 1641 01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:35.239 google alien virus and look at all the returns you're 1642 01:46:35.239 --> 01:46:37.119 going to get. In fact, there was even it was 1643 01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:40.880 even said by some people that perhaps COVID came from 1644 01:46:40.920 --> 01:46:44.239 outer space. This is not a new thing. This is 1645 01:46:44.439 --> 01:46:46.920 a trope that's been going on for a long time now. 1646 01:46:47.359 --> 01:46:51.760 So yes, certainly we can see that perhaps that will 1647 01:46:51.800 --> 01:46:55.159 be their narrative. Perhaps we will have quote unquote alien 1648 01:46:55.319 --> 01:46:57.920 visitation here, and all of a sudden, we'll have a 1649 01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:00.840 disease outbreak or some such thing that they'll aim on 1650 01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:04.760 the inversion of these aliens, whether it's a friendly invasion 1651 01:47:05.079 --> 01:47:07.640 or well, well you can't call it a friendly invasion 1652 01:47:07.720 --> 01:47:10.520 or a friendly contact, we should say, or an invasion. 1653 01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:14.159 Perhaps that's the notion they'll go to with this. Now. 1654 01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:16.680 I do reserve the right to be totally wrong about 1655 01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:19.840 all of this, obviously, but it seems to me there's 1656 01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:25.239 that inherent connection there. Well, they seem too. 1657 01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:27.960 Much time, too much energy, They've put too much into 1658 01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:33.079 the psychological operation of the next pandemic to not take 1659 01:47:33.159 --> 01:47:36.479 advantage of it. So why not beef it up and 1660 01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:39.520 combine it with an alien threat. That would be the 1661 01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:44.520 ultimate operation to gain control over humanity, right. 1662 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:47.760 Win or winter in dinner. That's the whole notion that 1663 01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:51.079 I think is coming here, Chris, that's my that's my 1664 01:47:52.079 --> 01:47:55.520 intuition on all of they think they're going to concurrently 1665 01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:57.720 push both of those. Now, it may not look like 1666 01:47:57.880 --> 01:48:01.399 an alien invasion, because that's what they've been talking about 1667 01:48:01.680 --> 01:48:04.760 now for at least the past three decades. This idea 1668 01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:07.800 of a mock alien invasion might not be that, but 1669 01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:11.119 it might be just simply contact with an alien race 1670 01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:13.720 that perhaps visits are and then all of a sudden, 1671 01:48:14.359 --> 01:48:19.239 we have this new disease that's super deadly to mankind, 1672 01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:22.520 or at least that's what the claim will be, or 1673 01:48:22.840 --> 01:48:26.000 you know, the claim that these are quote unquote extraterrestrials 1674 01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:29.600 that have visited here, that I think is the notion 1675 01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:32.000 that we might coming. So I think it's a hugely 1676 01:48:32.039 --> 01:48:34.000 important idea for people to consider here. 1677 01:48:34.359 --> 01:48:38.279 Do you think that there is an anomalous phenomena that's 1678 01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:45.239 occurring with non human intelligences or entities where people are 1679 01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:50.600 interacting with something, where there is something occurring that is 1680 01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:56.119 either communicating with humanity, manifesting in some way to certain 1681 01:48:56.279 --> 01:49:03.479 individuals and causing a causing certain people to have experiences 1682 01:49:03.560 --> 01:49:07.880 that they can't explain, where they only understand as they're 1683 01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:12.239 communicating or having contact with an extraterrestrial Could there be 1684 01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:19.039 these interdimensional Are these entities that reside in different spectrums 1685 01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:22.399 that we can't perceive, that are attempting to communicate us, 1686 01:49:23.079 --> 01:49:27.760 communicate with us that aren't necessarily the extraterrestrials that we're 1687 01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:28.600 being told about. 1688 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:32.640 I have one hundred percent think there is definitely a 1689 01:49:32.760 --> 01:49:39.319 real phenomenon here. There's absolutely these beings or entities or 1690 01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:42.680 whatever you want to call them, intelligences that do sometimes 1691 01:49:42.800 --> 01:49:46.760 contact people. I would say it's probably something more akin 1692 01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:50.800 to a spiritual thing rather than a physical material world 1693 01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:54.760 reality here. Maybe sometimes they can manifest in a material 1694 01:49:54.840 --> 01:49:58.399 type way here. But there's definitely something to this phenomenon 1695 01:49:58.479 --> 01:50:00.680 because it pre dates all of the the modern era. 1696 01:50:01.119 --> 01:50:04.600 It's been talked about in different ways through the ages here, 1697 01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:11.279 spirit manifestations, ghosts, demons, fairies, all of these different aspects 1698 01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:13.479 of things have been attributed to this. I think it's 1699 01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:18.039 the same phenomenon or phenomena, a group of phenomena that 1700 01:50:18.239 --> 01:50:21.119 has been leveraged heavily upon here in the modern era 1701 01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:24.840 by the science fiction of the time and equated back 1702 01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:28.079 to this idea of aliens or extraterrestrials. Now, am I 1703 01:50:28.199 --> 01:50:31.359 saying that it's not possible that there's extraterrestrials. Well, no, 1704 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:34.640 I'm not saying that at all. It's certainly possible, But 1705 01:50:34.840 --> 01:50:37.359 I think the nature of the phenomena that we are 1706 01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:40.720 seeing points to one of two things. It's either a 1707 01:50:41.039 --> 01:50:46.199 man made contrivance that's being inculcated into the minds of 1708 01:50:46.239 --> 01:50:50.119 people through various mind control technologies and techniques, and or 1709 01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:54.479 their spiritual phenomena or extra dimensional type phenomena that underlies 1710 01:50:54.560 --> 01:50:57.199 some of it as well. I think a combination of 1711 01:50:57.279 --> 01:51:00.760 these different factors certainly plays a role here. There's a 1712 01:51:00.840 --> 01:51:05.439 real phenomena. There are real intelligences out there that have 1713 01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:09.680 always been ever present here on earth, and sometimes we 1714 01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:13.760 see into that other world, if you want to call 1715 01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:16.319 it that. And these things have been described by the 1716 01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:19.319 occultists and by the Secret Society groups in many ways 1717 01:51:20.119 --> 01:51:21.159 as far as. 1718 01:51:22.159 --> 01:51:23.039 The different. 1719 01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:26.479 Ideas as to what these things could be, everything from 1720 01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:30.359 hierarchies of spiritual entities that maybe begin to manifest here, 1721 01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:34.520 to elementals, to various other types of intelligences that guide 1722 01:51:34.640 --> 01:51:38.359 energetic forces in this place. There's all of these different notions, 1723 01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:41.159 and of course you always bring in the idea of 1724 01:51:41.239 --> 01:51:46.039 the eggrigor or the tulpa. This is empowered by human 1725 01:51:46.119 --> 01:51:49.680 thought and human intention, so you have a lot of this. 1726 01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:51.880 This ties back to a lot of the same teachings 1727 01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:55.199 as well. So you have manifestations here that begin in 1728 01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:58.880 the realm of thought and then they manifest at some 1729 01:51:59.039 --> 01:52:00.880 point even physical materially. 1730 01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:01.159 Here. 1731 01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:06.359 You could look at these different philosophies from many different perspectives, 1732 01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:10.199 but the whole point is, yes, there's a definitive phenomena 1733 01:52:10.279 --> 01:52:13.039 that is concurrent with this. Now, does it relate to 1734 01:52:13.119 --> 01:52:16.800 the notion of this quote unquote alien invasion that we 1735 01:52:16.880 --> 01:52:19.600 may or may not see coming. I don't think it does. 1736 01:52:19.720 --> 01:52:22.119 I think that's largely a contrivance by those in this 1737 01:52:22.239 --> 01:52:26.119 world who want to maintain their power here and push 1738 01:52:26.239 --> 01:52:31.640 mankind backwards in his spiritual way of thinking, in his 1739 01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:36.520 spiritual development, and keep him walcked in the hyper materialist paradigm. 1740 01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:36.800 Here. 1741 01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:40.800 Rudolph de Steiner described this as the spirit of Aramon. 1742 01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:43.880 I would describe it as a portion of the spirit 1743 01:52:43.960 --> 01:52:45.920 of Antichrist in the modern day. 1744 01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:46.159 Here. 1745 01:52:47.039 --> 01:52:51.319 This is trapping people's minds into this material world notion 1746 01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:55.119 of thinking. This is why our science will tell us 1747 01:52:55.239 --> 01:52:59.760 that consciousness and you know, human spirit and all of 1748 01:52:59.800 --> 01:53:03.039 these things are nothing more than the byproducts of the 1749 01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:06.399 electrochemical activity of the brain and brain stem. And all 1750 01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:08.479 of these things are an illusion that it's just the 1751 01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:12.680 byproduct of some physical material world process here. And if 1752 01:53:12.720 --> 01:53:15.479 that's the case, if that is true, which in my 1753 01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:18.680 estimation it is not. It is a why. But if 1754 01:53:18.720 --> 01:53:21.600 that is true, if consciousness can be equated to something 1755 01:53:21.880 --> 01:53:24.880 little more than the electrochemical byproduct of the human brain 1756 01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:28.880 and brain stem, then this can be duplicated via algorithm. 1757 01:53:29.119 --> 01:53:31.560 And if this can be duplicated via algorithm, it can 1758 01:53:31.640 --> 01:53:37.800 be duplicated and become manifest in a machine, in a computer, 1759 01:53:38.239 --> 01:53:42.359 a computer simulation, or some such thing. And then therefore 1760 01:53:42.439 --> 01:53:45.439 you could transfer your consciousness somewhere else. And this is 1761 01:53:45.520 --> 01:53:48.479 what the modern cult of scientism would like us to believe, 1762 01:53:48.760 --> 01:53:51.560 that everything can be equated down to a material world, 1763 01:53:51.680 --> 01:53:56.439 physical cause and effect relationship between these various things. But 1764 01:53:56.560 --> 01:54:00.239 there's something missing. They miss the whole spiritual concept con 1765 01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:03.600 connotation to everything with this way of thinking. But that's 1766 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:08.439 why they try to steer our thinking into this material paradigm. 1767 01:54:08.840 --> 01:54:11.359 And as I said, Rudolph Steiner describes this as the 1768 01:54:11.399 --> 01:54:15.439 spirit of Ariman. Yeah, the spirit of Araman would like 1769 01:54:15.520 --> 01:54:19.000 you trapped in this material paradigm and thinking in this 1770 01:54:19.319 --> 01:54:21.319 sheer material way of thinking. 1771 01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:22.479 I want to. 1772 01:54:22.479 --> 01:54:27.079 Explore a few theories and concepts with you based on 1773 01:54:27.199 --> 01:54:31.800 different conversations I've had with different researchers with very different 1774 01:54:31.920 --> 01:54:36.800 views of what's happening. First of all, the UFO aspect, 1775 01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:42.479 the possibility that there are encounters occurring where people are 1776 01:54:43.239 --> 01:54:49.399 being either experimented on medically or technologically, or even being 1777 01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:58.760 secially impregnated physically by some sort of extraterrestrial being, in 1778 01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:05.399 turn making hybrid entities, which this could be a large 1779 01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:11.920 scale operation to globally create hybrid entities and in turn 1780 01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:16.479 gradually change what we are as humanity. There's that side. 1781 01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:19.840 Then I had guests like Nathaniel Gillis on the other day, 1782 01:55:19.840 --> 01:55:23.199 who does believe this is a completely spiritual phenomenon when 1783 01:55:23.239 --> 01:55:27.359 we're talking about non human intelligences that also have the 1784 01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:33.359 ability to somehow affect our reality in ways to where 1785 01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:37.960 they can impregnate women somehow, what you would call incubus 1786 01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:42.000 or sucubis can impregnate women the same thing as happening 1787 01:55:42.239 --> 01:55:45.800 in a hybridization sense over a long period of time. 1788 01:55:45.880 --> 01:55:49.279 So where it's they're attempting to change humanity, but it's 1789 01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:53.560 a more of a metaphysical or spiritual nature. What do 1790 01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:54.279 you think about that? 1791 01:55:56.359 --> 01:55:58.520 Well, I think there is a medasical side to it, 1792 01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:01.439 for certain, and I also think that maybe there is 1793 01:56:01.560 --> 01:56:04.880 a real world, physical manifestation of that that can be 1794 01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:07.760 going on to some shape, way, shape or form. All 1795 01:56:07.800 --> 01:56:09.439 you got to do is look back at the story 1796 01:56:09.479 --> 01:56:12.439 of Genesis chapter six, the incursion of the Watchers, and 1797 01:56:12.520 --> 01:56:14.960 the Book of Enoch, all these things you see all 1798 01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:18.640 these similar things going on. The fallen angels, they came 1799 01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:21.279 down and unto the daughters of men, they made it 1800 01:56:21.399 --> 01:56:25.159 with them, and of them were born, being known as 1801 01:56:25.239 --> 01:56:27.640 the Nephelum, which were the heroes of old, the great 1802 01:56:27.680 --> 01:56:29.680 men of renown. And it says in the Bible that 1803 01:56:29.720 --> 01:56:32.159 there were giants in those days and also after that. 1804 01:56:33.640 --> 01:56:36.359 That's what these were. This was the incursion of some 1805 01:56:36.760 --> 01:56:40.680 type of an entity that doesn't belong in this material world. 1806 01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:43.840 It was an abomination in the eyes of God, the Creator. 1807 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:48.760 And this is why many theologians and many people who 1808 01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:52.239 study these things will say that the great flood occurred. 1809 01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:56.600 It was to wipe out this extant group that did 1810 01:56:56.680 --> 01:57:00.880 not belong here. They're not something that belongedungs in this 1811 01:57:01.319 --> 01:57:04.319 material manifestation, but they seek to be here. And you 1812 01:57:04.439 --> 01:57:08.880 see this all across the different occult organizations and fraternities 1813 01:57:08.920 --> 01:57:12.319 and brotherhoods. The whole notion that there are these spiritual 1814 01:57:12.439 --> 01:57:15.880 type entities out there that seek nothing else than to 1815 01:57:16.079 --> 01:57:20.119 manifest physically materially in this place. It's something that's said 1816 01:57:20.159 --> 01:57:23.319 to be a great desire of those types of beings, 1817 01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:27.520 whether they be fallen angelic beings or whether they be 1818 01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:31.039 some other type of entity like an elemental spirit or 1819 01:57:31.079 --> 01:57:35.079 some such thing. They seek to manifest here Philly and 1820 01:57:35.239 --> 01:57:39.840 have this physical experience. And they are jealous of humans 1821 01:57:40.039 --> 01:57:43.159 because of this, jealous of mankind because we are created 1822 01:57:43.279 --> 01:57:45.520 in the image of God and we are here in 1823 01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:50.039 this material manifestation, and this is where our spirits reside, 1824 01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:52.640 and they want nothing more for their spirits to be 1825 01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:56.359 able to manifest in this way, and thus they seek 1826 01:57:56.439 --> 01:58:00.479 to find different ways who get here estimation? 1827 01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:03.640 Could could this also? Could this also be occurring with 1828 01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:09.880 aspects of technology, to where somehow these entities are able 1829 01:58:09.960 --> 01:58:16.159 to inhabit our technology AI and like a Golam type since. 1830 01:58:17.359 --> 01:58:19.479 And I think you were just going the exact place 1831 01:58:19.479 --> 01:58:22.880 where I was heading next with this, essentially, yes, that's 1832 01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:28.439 what my view is AI transhumanism. All of these different notions, 1833 01:58:28.520 --> 01:58:31.399 I think are a way in which these different spiritual 1834 01:58:31.479 --> 01:58:37.640 manifestations can become or step through the gateway here into 1835 01:58:37.720 --> 01:58:40.399 this place. Now, what you need to understand about this, 1836 01:58:41.399 --> 01:58:43.239 just from my research and the things that I know 1837 01:58:43.359 --> 01:58:47.600 and I've seen and the things that I've been able 1838 01:58:47.640 --> 01:58:50.560 to vet out as well as possible, AI in and 1839 01:58:50.680 --> 01:58:53.960 of itself is not a viable framework for a type 1840 01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:58.119 of spiritual entity to manifest. They need something more. And 1841 01:58:58.279 --> 01:59:01.960 this is where things come a little bit more convoluted 1842 01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:04.239 and a little bit more turning. This has to do 1843 01:59:04.359 --> 01:59:07.479 with this notion of transhumanism. Because we as human beings, 1844 01:59:07.520 --> 01:59:10.199 are made and created in the image and likeness of God. 1845 01:59:11.720 --> 01:59:16.159 Mankind himself is a composite being of sorts. We have 1846 01:59:16.439 --> 01:59:19.840 a physical body, we have a spirit, we have a soul, 1847 01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:22.800 and we have a mind. All of these things combined 1848 01:59:22.880 --> 01:59:28.119 we are a threefold and four square being simultaneously. And 1849 01:59:28.319 --> 01:59:31.159 this is acknowledged in different ways by the secrets of 1850 01:59:31.159 --> 01:59:34.760 side groups. So, in order for a spirit to be 1851 01:59:34.960 --> 01:59:37.640 able to fully manifest in this place in a physical 1852 01:59:37.800 --> 01:59:40.760 material world, since it needs to have that type of 1853 01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:45.520 a framework. Now that's missing when it comes to AI. 1854 01:59:46.439 --> 01:59:51.640 But here's the kicker. Humanity, mankind, the body of man 1855 01:59:52.680 --> 01:59:55.239 created in the image of God, this is the gateway 1856 01:59:55.520 --> 01:59:58.680 between worlds. This is where in a spirit can step 1857 01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:03.319 in and manifest. So you've heard of things like walk ins. 1858 02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:07.159 I think there's a very similar phenomena that can occur 1859 02:00:07.399 --> 02:00:11.000 once the transhumanist notion of things takes place. They want 1860 02:00:11.079 --> 02:00:14.199 to merge your mind and your body with the machine. 1861 02:00:14.800 --> 02:00:18.239 In so doing, this creates an artificial form that does 1862 02:00:18.359 --> 02:00:21.279 not exist and is not intended to exist in this 1863 02:00:21.399 --> 02:00:24.560 material reality or this world in which we live and manifest, 1864 02:00:25.119 --> 02:00:28.119 And therefore it becomes an abomination to God and to 1865 02:00:28.800 --> 02:00:32.760 all of creation. It's completely unatural. It's the inversion of 1866 02:00:32.880 --> 02:00:35.960 the whole natural order of things. And at that point 1867 02:00:36.239 --> 02:00:40.560 therein can step in my estimation, a spirit into this place. 1868 02:00:40.640 --> 02:00:44.319 Especially when you consider they are promising mankind that through 1869 02:00:44.399 --> 02:00:48.439 this use of transhumanism, you can upload your consciousness into 1870 02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:53.039 a machine. Well, in my view, that's just a ruse. 1871 02:00:54.319 --> 02:00:58.880 Will it actually be the ontological self you that exists there, 1872 02:00:59.680 --> 02:01:01.279 don't I think so? I think it will just be 1873 02:01:01.439 --> 02:01:06.680 a replica and artificiated replica of your behaviors and maybe 1874 02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:08.640 some of your thoughts and this kind of a thing. 1875 02:01:09.399 --> 02:01:12.479 In the mean, so therefore it leaves this void. So 1876 02:01:13.239 --> 02:01:15.560 I think it's an advanced form of eugenics. And this 1877 02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:20.159 has been admitted by some pro transhumanists that transhumanism is 1878 02:01:21.199 --> 02:01:24.920 just something that is eugenics based. In fact, there's a 1879 02:01:24.960 --> 02:01:28.199 quote from a pro transhumanist YouTube channel out there. I 1880 02:01:28.239 --> 02:01:32.039 think it's called Transhumania if I remember right, is the 1881 02:01:32.119 --> 02:01:34.520 name of the channel. In one of their videos, they 1882 02:01:34.640 --> 02:01:39.600 said that transhumanism is quote unquote eugenics without coercion. So 1883 02:01:40.319 --> 02:01:43.520 that being the case, this is just part and parcel 1884 02:01:43.600 --> 02:01:47.319 of the whole depopulation campaign that has been talked about. 1885 02:01:47.399 --> 02:01:48.079 For many years. 1886 02:01:48.239 --> 02:01:51.319 They'll convince people that if they go ahead and get 1887 02:01:51.359 --> 02:01:55.119 these transhumanist implants and they upload their consciousness to the machine, 1888 02:01:55.199 --> 02:01:57.760 that they'll live forever and that this will benefit them, 1889 02:01:58.119 --> 02:02:02.880 but in reality, it's just a eugenics program to depopulate them. 1890 02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:06.600 Then their spirit will go off. They will actually die 1891 02:02:06.680 --> 02:02:09.319 in the process of replicating the consciousness in a machine. 1892 02:02:09.880 --> 02:02:12.439 And you could look at there's various transhumanist white papers 1893 02:02:12.479 --> 02:02:15.600 out there talking about this, how scanning the brain every 1894 02:02:15.640 --> 02:02:17.920 component of the brain is possible, but it would destroy 1895 02:02:18.000 --> 02:02:22.359 the brain in the process. So therefore what would happen is, 1896 02:02:23.000 --> 02:02:26.520 you know, the human being the spirit, the animus that 1897 02:02:27.479 --> 02:02:30.399 was in that body leaves and moves on to the 1898 02:02:30.479 --> 02:02:33.399 next plane or whatever, and it leaves a void, a 1899 02:02:33.479 --> 02:02:36.680 spiritual void in its place. So that's when you could 1900 02:02:36.680 --> 02:02:40.159 get the notion of perhaps a walk in of sorts, 1901 02:02:40.479 --> 02:02:43.840 so a different spirit steps through the gateway, because remember, 1902 02:02:43.960 --> 02:02:45.880 the human being is the gateway. 1903 02:02:47.159 --> 02:02:49.640 Now let's close on this. Could it be possible that 1904 02:02:50.039 --> 02:02:55.279 if enough people become aware of these genders, if enough 1905 02:02:55.439 --> 02:02:59.479 people wake up to this and decide not to participate 1906 02:02:59.680 --> 02:03:04.479 or even pay attention to what they're attempting to show us, 1907 02:03:05.039 --> 02:03:10.359 could it possible that we skew the inevitable timeline that 1908 02:03:10.479 --> 02:03:13.920 we could be headed on and prevent a lot of 1909 02:03:14.159 --> 02:03:15.479 these events from occurring. 1910 02:03:17.239 --> 02:03:19.439 I would say that's immensely possible, and I have a 1911 02:03:19.479 --> 02:03:22.600 great deal of hope that we can reject this. That's 1912 02:03:22.640 --> 02:03:25.640 the whole notion. Need to be aware of what's being 1913 02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:29.840 handed to us by these social engineers who run things, 1914 02:03:29.920 --> 02:03:32.199 these dark ocultists at the top of the power structure 1915 02:03:32.239 --> 02:03:35.159 that run things, and we need to reject it. We 1916 02:03:35.439 --> 02:03:39.000 need to get in right relationship with God, our creator, 1917 02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:41.640 and you know there's various ways we can do that. 1918 02:03:41.760 --> 02:03:45.960 I am an unapologetic Christian. So I see Christ as 1919 02:03:46.000 --> 02:03:48.800 the answer in my view. People are, of course, are 1920 02:03:50.039 --> 02:03:52.479 you know, free to think whatever they want about that, 1921 02:03:52.720 --> 02:03:57.640 but that I would harken people draw unto Christ. And this, 1922 02:03:57.920 --> 02:04:00.920 I think is the answer that can have this off 1923 02:04:00.960 --> 02:04:03.600 because we do see coming to fruition the very things 1924 02:04:03.640 --> 02:04:05.640 that were predicted in the Book of Revelation and through 1925 02:04:05.760 --> 02:04:08.880 various places in the Bible. So that being the case, 1926 02:04:09.119 --> 02:04:13.279 I think this is part of answer, but the biggest 1927 02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:18.079 part of the answer also is rejecting these things, rejecting 1928 02:04:18.199 --> 02:04:20.840 these notions, understanding the path that they put us on, 1929 02:04:21.319 --> 02:04:23.840 and let's make it harder for these dark occultists at 1930 02:04:23.880 --> 02:04:25.840 the top of the power structure to get what they want. 1931 02:04:26.359 --> 02:04:30.319 Reject things like central bank digital currencies, which are absolutely 1932 02:04:30.439 --> 02:04:35.079 part and parcel of one of the main in constituents 1933 02:04:35.199 --> 02:04:38.119 to putting in place their beast system that they want. 1934 02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:42.039 Let's reject that. We do not ever want to lose 1935 02:04:42.119 --> 02:04:46.239 the notion of using some physical form of currency, because 1936 02:04:46.279 --> 02:04:47.800 the day that we do so is the day that 1937 02:04:47.880 --> 02:04:53.319 we lose the most freedoms ever in human history. Because 1938 02:04:53.319 --> 02:04:56.600 they're not just talking about going digital with their currencies 1939 02:04:57.399 --> 02:05:00.560 when you're talking about central bank digital currencies, talking about 1940 02:05:00.640 --> 02:05:03.720 of all, they're going to centralize all the different types 1941 02:05:03.760 --> 02:05:06.399 of money systems into one. And then second of all, 1942 02:05:06.399 --> 02:05:10.600 they're talking about programmable money, money that you can only 1943 02:05:10.920 --> 02:05:14.319 use to buy certain things, or it has an expiration date, 1944 02:05:14.479 --> 02:05:18.439 or any factor, any combination of these different factors in play, 1945 02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:21.880 including and not limited to a social credits are attached 1946 02:05:21.960 --> 02:05:25.560 thereof So, if you are a bad boy and you 1947 02:05:25.680 --> 02:05:28.920 post something on YouTube that doesn't align with the mainstream narrative, 1948 02:05:29.239 --> 02:05:31.319 well they could shut you out of your bank account 1949 02:05:31.680 --> 02:05:36.199 until you remove that video, or take back your position 1950 02:05:36.319 --> 02:05:40.119 on that or earn your way back into having certain privileges. 1951 02:05:40.199 --> 02:05:43.880 Because at that point everything becomes a privilege. And this 1952 02:05:44.079 --> 02:05:48.399 is when this whole transhumanist notion of things get goes 1953 02:05:48.800 --> 02:05:52.800 sour and gouth very fast when you look at this 1954 02:05:53.119 --> 02:05:56.800 notion of things. Our rights are derived from God. It's 1955 02:05:56.840 --> 02:06:00.840 acknowledged in the Declaration of Independence. We hold these truths 1956 02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:03.319 to be self evident, that all men are created equal, 1957 02:06:03.399 --> 02:06:07.079 that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, 1958 02:06:07.520 --> 02:06:10.920 that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Well, 1959 02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:14.359 if you do not acknowledge that you have a creator 1960 02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:18.399 much like these people, and then religion that is scientism 1961 02:06:18.479 --> 02:06:22.239 to first of all, then you have no human rights 1962 02:06:23.560 --> 02:06:26.439 in the eyes of the power structure. So all bets 1963 02:06:26.479 --> 02:06:28.720 are off. If you don't believe there's a god, there's 1964 02:06:28.760 --> 02:06:31.479 a creator that gave you, that made you, and put 1965 02:06:31.560 --> 02:06:34.319 in play certain natural laws in this place. If you 1966 02:06:34.359 --> 02:06:37.600 don't believe that, well then you have no rights in 1967 02:06:37.760 --> 02:06:40.359 the eyes of the power structure to begin with. So 1968 02:06:40.479 --> 02:06:44.039 they will do whatever they want to or for you 1969 02:06:44.359 --> 02:06:48.399 or against you, whatever they see fit. And in that way, 1970 02:06:49.039 --> 02:06:52.479 when you look at it in that perspective, what this 1971 02:06:52.680 --> 02:06:56.680 does is it takes the idea of rights away from 1972 02:06:56.800 --> 02:07:00.119 being something that you are created with, you're endowed with 1973 02:07:00.319 --> 02:07:03.439 by your creator, and it hands them over to government 1974 02:07:03.640 --> 02:07:06.520 to determine what are your quote unquote rights. And all 1975 02:07:06.640 --> 02:07:10.199 rights that are handled by government are privileges, so they 1976 02:07:10.279 --> 02:07:14.119 can deny you whatever privilege they want without any moral 1977 02:07:14.239 --> 02:07:17.840 recompense on their part for this. This is from their 1978 02:07:17.920 --> 02:07:21.119 point of view, of course, as I'm trying to explain, 1979 02:07:21.800 --> 02:07:26.600 so they see justification in their actions that way. So 1980 02:07:27.560 --> 02:07:29.960 that's my viewpoint is what they want to do is 1981 02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:32.560 they would like to instantiate this this site where you 1982 02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:35.319 don't acknowledge that you have God given rights, and in 1983 02:07:35.439 --> 02:07:38.399 so doing, everything becomes a privilege. And therefore, if you 1984 02:07:38.520 --> 02:07:41.720 have a programmable digital currency, that if your social credit 1985 02:07:41.760 --> 02:07:44.319 score drops below a certain number, they could shut you 1986 02:07:44.399 --> 02:07:46.800 completely out of your bank account. You can't leave your house, 1987 02:07:46.840 --> 02:07:49.560 you can't buy an airplane ticket, you can't travel out 1988 02:07:49.560 --> 02:07:53.720 of your fifteen minute city. All these notions come into play. 1989 02:07:53.840 --> 02:07:57.439 And this is exactly the beast system, the control grid 1990 02:07:57.520 --> 02:08:00.239 they want to set up in this place if we 1991 02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:03.119 allow them. So. The simple act of rejecting something like 1992 02:08:03.199 --> 02:08:06.960 central bank digital currencies is a key component to doing this. 1993 02:08:07.159 --> 02:08:10.039 Let's make it hard for them to get what they want, guys. 1994 02:08:10.159 --> 02:08:13.279 One hundred percent. Just reject it if it doesn't make sense, 1995 02:08:13.319 --> 02:08:17.199 if it doesn't resonate you, which most of this nonsense 1996 02:08:17.279 --> 02:08:20.319 that's coming down the pipe, one hundred percent does, just 1997 02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:23.439 don't participate in. It's the easiest answer that we. 1998 02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:24.199 Have so far. 1999 02:08:24.640 --> 02:08:27.359 Wayne, Thank you so much. This was great. Can't wait 2000 02:08:27.439 --> 02:08:29.479 to do it again. Before you head out, let the 2001 02:08:29.600 --> 02:08:32.760 audience know where they can find your books and our content. 2002 02:08:34.079 --> 02:08:36.239 All right, Thank you again, Chris. Always a pleasure to 2003 02:08:36.279 --> 02:08:40.399 be on here with you. The Alchemical Tech Revolution podcast 2004 02:08:40.640 --> 02:08:44.279 is available on Spotify or Apple Podcasts or pretty much 2005 02:08:44.279 --> 02:08:48.039 any other podcast player out there. I do that once 2006 02:08:48.079 --> 02:08:50.840 a week usually I have a new free episode that drops. 2007 02:08:51.720 --> 02:08:55.680 I do have a subscriber only episode that comes out 2008 02:08:55.680 --> 02:08:58.680 each week as well, and bonus episodes of another show 2009 02:08:58.760 --> 02:09:01.520 that I do called The Alchemical Lantern, which is a 2010 02:09:01.680 --> 02:09:05.880 live weekly show that's broadcast on Freeworld dot FM Friday 2011 02:09:05.920 --> 02:09:09.680 nights at ten pm Eastern Standard time. Do a replay 2012 02:09:09.720 --> 02:09:13.680 of that also on the podcast there through Spotify. But 2013 02:09:13.920 --> 02:09:16.760 also I have books available if you just google my name, 2014 02:09:16.800 --> 02:09:19.399 they'll turn up there, available on Amazon or pretty much 2015 02:09:19.399 --> 02:09:22.399 anywhere else can buy books. Also, I do have the 2016 02:09:22.600 --> 02:09:25.279 rockfin channel, which is kind of my home base for 2017 02:09:25.399 --> 02:09:27.920 live streaming and stuff like that. I also have a 2018 02:09:28.000 --> 02:09:30.520 YouTube channel, but I don't really do an awful lot 2019 02:09:30.560 --> 02:09:34.119 with that anymore except for post the free podcast episode 2020 02:09:34.119 --> 02:09:36.760 when it's something that they're not going to take down 2021 02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:39.800 on me. So I just use that as a tool 2022 02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:41.359 to try to reach people to get them over to 2023 02:09:41.399 --> 02:09:45.359 the other platforms at this point. Also, I'm a prolific writer, 2024 02:09:45.520 --> 02:09:49.039 so I also have the Alchemicalbeacon dot substact dot com. 2025 02:09:49.479 --> 02:09:51.680 I love substack. It's a great platform, Chris. If you 2026 02:09:51.720 --> 02:09:53.680 haven't been on there yet, and you should get over there. 2027 02:09:53.800 --> 02:09:58.600 Yeah, check that out. Definitely. All right, thank you so much, 2028 02:09:58.800 --> 02:10:01.479 great stuff. We'll defin when we do this again. And 2029 02:10:01.720 --> 02:10:04.920 until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening and we 2030 02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:07.560 will talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all then.