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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Marvel Liones Podcast recover anything and everything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the Marvel Universe and the comics, TV

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<v Speaker 1>and movies. We go from er six one six to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mojo Verse to the TVA in order to bring

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<v Speaker 1>the Marvel Unise right to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the Man without.

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<v Speaker 1>Fear, Chris, I'm the nerd with the Mouth David Alliance

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<v Speaker 1>a Symbol Symbol, Volume three hundred and two. And we

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<v Speaker 1>were all last week, but we knew we would be

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<v Speaker 1>coming back strong with count of three new episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>X Men ninety seven Season two and another show that

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<v Speaker 1>premiered at the same time during an interesting slot of

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<v Speaker 1>time slot that I cannot wait to finally we get

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to that episode, because my goodness, that was

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<v Speaker 1>like icing on the cake.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't see that coming in man Dayalen, Uh so good

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<v Speaker 2>at that.

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<v Speaker 3>That made me smile so much, so so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah so, But anyways, how's been your last two weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's been a hot one here in the good

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<v Speaker 3>old state of Missouri, right in the Midwest. It has

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<v Speaker 3>been blazing hot. We've had high eighties almost every day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just been crazy amounts of weather.

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<v Speaker 2>By eighties. Oh, how sad for you high eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one day it was ninety five, but o that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's been, but it's been consistently in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean even at night it's still it will say

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<v Speaker 3>that it's like seventy five, but it will feel like

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<v Speaker 3>eighty one. It's just it's been hot. So the sun

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<v Speaker 3>going down does not help.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got the heat Dome at time of recording

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina coming over us. It got over above

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred today. It's currently right now at time of recording,

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<v Speaker 1>l after nine to fifteen eighty seven degrees right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So fourth of.

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<v Speaker 1>July to those in the those in America that celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, Happy Canada Day to our Canada residence,

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<v Speaker 1>and happy whatever day to anyone else around the world

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<v Speaker 1>that celebrates something this weekend. Maybe you're just celebrating at

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<v Speaker 1>this point when you listen to this on Friday, it's Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a celebration for you, and we celebrate you here

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<v Speaker 1>at Marble Alliance.

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<v Speaker 3>Going into a nice, fun weekend and hopefully no one explodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, it's been a busy week, as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Some we have summers off, but you know, work and

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<v Speaker 1>open a new building, hiring people, things like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, same same old week at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, got got a good hire in.

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<v Speaker 1>Got got offices packed up for the eventual move, and

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<v Speaker 1>next week going on vacation. So you will not see

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<v Speaker 1>you all will not see me or hear me next week,

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<v Speaker 1>but mister Travis Hines will be taking over and.

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<v Speaker 2>You might be right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now had three appearances on this show recently and

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<v Speaker 1>has content to go over, so you know, for.

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<v Speaker 2>A while there.

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<v Speaker 1>For those that don't realize it, when Hines has usually

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<v Speaker 1>come on the show, it's been he thinks it's been

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<v Speaker 1>conveniently timed for one of us to give him. It's

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<v Speaker 1>usually been me that's out that he comes on and

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<v Speaker 1>there's absolutely no content to go over.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, put poor guy for longest time me it

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<v Speaker 3>would get switched up in the week coming up. He

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<v Speaker 3>would know weeks in advance, Hey you're covering this week

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<v Speaker 3>or that week, but by telling me you get to

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<v Speaker 3>that week, there's no news, no shows, no anything, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're pulling out nevergreen topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had too many of those left.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say we covered everything almost but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking forward to my vacation looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I look forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>Being a listener on the ride home when we come

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<v Speaker 1>home on Friday. So you all will see me in

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<v Speaker 1>about two weeks. But I'm here tonight. You were here tonight, David,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch the entirety of the series, five episodes at

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<v Speaker 2>But I, you know, spoiler it. I really did enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 1>take that off, all right. X Men ninety seven Season

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<v Speaker 1>With a lot of the most of the animation that

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<v Speaker 1>but not exactly sometimes, but they're darn close to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode, but the significant ones, they got the back and behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it, and man, it exceeded most of our expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot is riding on season two. Non spoiler thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they they came out the gates swinging, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Did they throw hand?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, too early to tell it if they match how

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<v Speaker 3>great last season was. But man, they they come out

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<v Speaker 3>in these first three episodes, even in with a a

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<v Speaker 3>moment that just hast you waiting and anticipating the next episode.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that they This was super cool. I

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<v Speaker 3>was wondering how they were going to take the whole

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic of the time rift and work with it. And

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<v Speaker 3>it had some some cool moments, some interesting fight scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>and a couple of cameos that I was not expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was you know. I always wonder when they

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<v Speaker 1>do these episode drops. Could each of these episodes stand

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the most part that if they did

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<v Speaker 1>hit They want to kind of strike by the irons hot.

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<v Speaker 1>kind of where the teams are and I think, look

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<v Speaker 1>reflecting back why they did it. I mean, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>So we left off the X Men. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those that it's borderline cringe, but borderline

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<v Speaker 3>Know what, throughout these three episodes, I'm gonna say this

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<v Speaker 3>like as a whole. They mentioned this is a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of times, just how monumental the nine nies were to

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<v Speaker 3>Bishop mentions it, there's just a couple of times we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we were when we were most strongest, and everything is

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<v Speaker 3>happening in the nineties. Now, granted, X Men had a

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<v Speaker 3>hell of a run in the nineties, not just with

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<v Speaker 1>It's just funny because as children of the nineties, as

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<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of just when you've got a series

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<v Speaker 1>title ninety seven, Well, we're kind of at the tail

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. So Season two premiere opens with Bishop

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<v Speaker 1>the X Men. Bishop for Bishop and Forge discussed a

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<v Speaker 1>with the episode that brought Bishop into the present. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they want to rescue and pull them back into

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<v Speaker 1>the proper place of the timeline. Bishop says that he

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<v Speaker 1>will be going to the past because Forge has his

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<v Speaker 1>heart set on the future. As we see that Storm

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<v Speaker 1>they had their little tryst and in the they always

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<v Speaker 1>on again, off again, and remember and so we you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Bishop also explains that the two points in time to

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<v Speaker 1>which they will be traveling to represent the wrise of

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<v Speaker 1>reign in the future, so you know, it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Mike question is, well, screw the president. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're like, you know what, we already back in

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<v Speaker 3>ninety six and ninety five, we defeated him already, so

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred year reign. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So they jump into the time machine built by Forge

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<v Speaker 1>and we follow him into the future. So this whole episode,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're going into the future. So that's where

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's team is with Gene Storm, Wolverine. Who else is there?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that it that makes up the main part of

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<v Speaker 2>More more there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So for four just immediately fighting these Terminator like robots

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<v Speaker 1>sees him, but he's thankfully saved by the feral version

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<v Speaker 1>of Wolverine wielding his bone claws rather than because remember

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<v Speaker 1>the end of last season. Storm also arrives and joins

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<v Speaker 1>him and takes down these were freaky looking robots that

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<v Speaker 1>this point, almost like taking human skulls, you know, exoskeletons,

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<v Speaker 1>very much like terminator s. But these even look like

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<v Speaker 1>monstrous at that point, but I did like it. During

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<v Speaker 1>the fight, Wolverine's claws do break as he's using them

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<v Speaker 1>to fight, but also grow back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he goes to do a stabbing motion that he's

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<v Speaker 3>done hundreds of times before, downward stab on the head

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<v Speaker 3>of one of the robots, and you see his claws

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<v Speaker 3>break and he yells out like he feels the pain.

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<v Speaker 3>He continues the fight, but you could tell like this hurts,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's just so used to having those movements, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the bone was not having it against the metal

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<v Speaker 3>of that robot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Even they said, well, what about his healing factor? I said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much time has passed. I think we

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And if you listen closely, like when he pops

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<v Speaker 3>his claws, it's not the shriek sound that you're used

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<v Speaker 3>to hearing. It's it's more of a ripping, tearing sound.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's definitely the bone going through the skin. And

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<v Speaker 3>remember that's his healing factor. Doesn't necessarily like a get

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<v Speaker 3>him and he still could feel everything, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know it doesn't matter of getting used to it.

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<v Speaker 3>But his body has gone through, you know, getting ripped

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<v Speaker 3>out of the adamantium has gone through. And as we

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<v Speaker 1>This is his now natural, this was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>So Forge argues that they can't stay at that point

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<v Speaker 1>So when they when they eventually defeat the machines from Apocalypse,

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, Storm gets forged to come with them

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<v Speaker 1>to join them at back at the camp with the Resistance,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the camp they meet mother Askani, the woman

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<v Speaker 1>whose Cyclops and Gene met at the end of season one,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cyclops explains to Fordes that they need to be

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<v Speaker 1>they can. Nathan, of course, will become the mutant soldier

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<v Speaker 1>Knows's cable and they we saw the birth of Nathan,

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<v Speaker 1>but he mister Sinister, infected them the techno organic virus,

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<v Speaker 1>forcing Cyclops and Gene to make the decision to give

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<v Speaker 2>So he could survive.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just pause for a moment. Yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say this, and I have to put on put

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<v Speaker 3>on my eyewear as I say this. But my man,

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<v Speaker 3>Cyclops was right. Look at him trying to be a

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<v Speaker 3>loving father and be there for his child. Cyclops is right.

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<v Speaker 3>He loves his son. He wants to be there for

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<v Speaker 3>his son.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold that thought, Hold that thought.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll eventually prove himself within these episodes, within this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of like what are we doing here? You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>says he's here for his son. He does, and then

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<v Speaker 1>quickly gives him up.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't don't, don't. Don't give him that much credit.

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<v Speaker 3>So he has to for the good of what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But he wants to be there for his son. He

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<v Speaker 2>Sure Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, so Forge argues that they can't stay there, they

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<v Speaker 1>could be disrupting the timeline majorly. So he does allow

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<v Speaker 1>them to stay with Nathan just for one more day,

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<v Speaker 1>and he points out to them that they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who pulled the X Men through and what the motivation

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<v Speaker 1>is for doing so, and also Nathan doesn't know Scott

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<v Speaker 1>and Jean are his parents. At this point, they just

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<v Speaker 3>and making sure that everything goes good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it is rather interesting to seeing that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, what do they know and what

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<v Speaker 1>do they don't know? And stay enough Michael Johnston, who

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<v Speaker 1>is having a big moment right now from the movie

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<v Speaker 1>of Session, he voices young Nathan Summers. So that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of good timing with that. So we flash to

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<v Speaker 1>a Apocalypse citadel and we see the mutant Ozymandias approaching

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<v Speaker 1>his master. And in the comics, Ozamandias serves as Apocalypse

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<v Speaker 1>for thousands of years. We do not see apocalyps though.

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<v Speaker 1>He is in his regeneration cradle and Ozamandas informs him

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<v Speaker 1>that they have found Nathan, who could serve as his

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<v Speaker 1>need to ever regenerate again. Apoxle orders Ozamandas to take

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<v Speaker 1>his four horsemen and capture Nathan. Now this is you

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<v Speaker 1>know again, Apoxives is immortal to an extent. Now, we

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<v Speaker 1>have seen in the series that Apocalypse has needed vessels

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<v Speaker 1>the comics, this was also done, and so Apocalypse had

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<v Speaker 1>heard about Nathan and Mother Askani. They were having trouble

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<v Speaker 1>and so because they did not, they weren't sure if

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<v Speaker 1>they did it. They they Nathan Summers. Well, Apocalypse did

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<v Speaker 1>kidnap Nathan Summers. However, unbeknownst to Apocalypse at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>that that came that Nathan Summers became something else at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. And I don't want to say too much

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so.

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<v Speaker 3>know apocalypse and the vessels and that aspect of it,

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<v Speaker 3>because we touched on that in the original X Men show.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a whole storyline behind that as well.

423
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh, kind of one other thing too, if

424
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<v Speaker 1>you're curious about what that kind of a series that

425
00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Dell's really with that head on this the story arc

426
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<v Speaker 1>is the Executioners show Executioner's Song, so check that out.

427
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<v Speaker 1>But back at the camp, Gene tries to train Nathan

428
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<v Speaker 1>to use his inherit to tell uh, I can always

429
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<v Speaker 1>have trouble to uh telepathy to in order to control

430
00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:30.000
<v Speaker 1>his virus now cable. Nathan Summers is an Omega level mutant. However,

431
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<v Speaker 1>he does not get that full status necessarily because he

432
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<v Speaker 1>is using his telepathic abilities to keep the virus at

433
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<v Speaker 1>bay because if he didn't he would it would kill him.

434
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<v Speaker 1>So Gene, now, remember Gene, that Nathan Summers is the

435
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<v Speaker 1>is the biological son of Scott and Madeline Pryor. However,

436
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<v Speaker 1>with the death of Madeline Pryor and when Gene came

437
00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:59.480
<v Speaker 1>back into play at this point, she also has all

438
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<v Speaker 1>the memory of Madeline Pryor as well, so kind of.

439
00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Her son kind of out her son. I don't know.

440
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the whole memories thing with them and the

441
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.519
<v Speaker 3>crossover and her coming back and then having Yeah, it's

442
00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:19.440
<v Speaker 3>weird and it gets convoluted at times because of that.

443
00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

444
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<v Speaker 1>So, but they're interrupted by Morrith who comes up, comes

445
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<v Speaker 1>in with baseball, says, hey, maybe Nathan will just want

446
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<v Speaker 1>to play catch and have a moment. So Cyclops tells

447
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<v Speaker 1>Nathan to go have fun. After these, Cyclopes and Gene

448
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<v Speaker 1>debate whether the motivation of Mother Askani and Gene convinces

449
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<v Speaker 1>the Cyclops to talk to her and try to get

450
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<v Speaker 1>her to allow them to bring Nathan home. Well, we

451
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<v Speaker 1>all know that's gonna go. Cyclops meet with Mother Askani,

452
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<v Speaker 1>who's kind of interestingly hanging upside down and kind of

453
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<v Speaker 1>in a fiery kind of sequence, to discuss Nathan and

454
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<v Speaker 1>the prophecy. She explains that all anyone knows is that

455
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<v Speaker 1>the child will rise and destroy Apocalypse's cradle, leading to

456
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<v Speaker 1>his eventual death, and Cyclopes refuses this prophecy and questions

457
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<v Speaker 1>Mother Askani on her true ide identity. While she shrugs

458
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<v Speaker 1>it off, we know and we see in her eye,

459
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<v Speaker 1>we see the phoenix force there. She has a fiery

460
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<v Speaker 1>thing now. In the comics, she mother Askani is a

461
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<v Speaker 1>is actually the elder version of a of a related

462
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<v Speaker 1>character the Summer's family, Rachel Summers. She is the child

463
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<v Speaker 1>of Cyclops and Gene in an alternative future, and she

464
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<v Speaker 1>has vestiges of the Phoenix Force with her, and she

465
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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the full Phoenix force, but she has vestiges

466
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<v Speaker 1>of it at that point, and so obviously we don't

467
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<v Speaker 1>know what's gonna be revealed at that point, but that

468
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<v Speaker 1>is who she really is. And that's kind of where

469
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<v Speaker 1>they kind of they're dropping not so subtle hints when

470
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<v Speaker 1>they're doing this to make sure the audience that aren't

471
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<v Speaker 1>connected to the comics do understand that saying, uh, this

472
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<v Speaker 1>is interesting.

473
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<v Speaker 3>I like the line that she said when her and

474
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<v Speaker 3>Scott were going back and forth and she's talking about

475
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<v Speaker 3>the prophecy and she calls Nathan the child a spring,

476
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<v Speaker 3>talking about when he was born, and then she says,

477
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<v Speaker 3>your time is over. It's no longer this time of summer,

478
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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, ooh, that's that is at bar

479
00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:12.039
<v Speaker 3>right there. She just hit him with the line, just like, yes,

480
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:16.240
<v Speaker 3>sit down, it's about the kid now, and why did

481
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<v Speaker 3>it take the apparently the show to say that Nathan's

482
00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:21.400
<v Speaker 3>middle name is day Spring.

483
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<v Speaker 2>Somehow I never knew that.

484
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she said this boy's whole government name.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly.

486
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<v Speaker 1>So Forge and Storms sit together and discuss the idea

487
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<v Speaker 1>of disturbing this timeline, and I allow the Cyclops and

488
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<v Speaker 1>Gene being with Nathan and the conversation ships at the

489
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<v Speaker 1>complications of their relationship that they're interrupted by Morthew says, hmm.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Where where's Nathan? He never came to play baseball.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Morphs has a lot of ability in this episode to

492
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<v Speaker 1>just interrupt people and just coming. I think that's what

493
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.839
<v Speaker 1>all he's really used for in this episode, is either

494
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<v Speaker 1>interrupting people and morphing to other compo characters.

495
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's that. That is his his current superpower right now,

496
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 3>because he just he pops in out the window with

497
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 3>the baseball and then he comes back later like yeah, so, uh,

498
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.160
<v Speaker 3>the kid never came back in. They're not in a

499
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<v Speaker 3>huge compound like you could see, all right, there's two

500
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<v Speaker 3>rooms here, then you walk out of this little bungalow house.

501
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Someone should have notice Nathan leaving on his own, yeah, exactly.

502
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And also if you noticed in in the end credits

503
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<v Speaker 1>when they go over each one of the characters and

504
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<v Speaker 1>their power sets. At this point, Apparently this version of

505
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<v Speaker 1>morph he takes on the super strength of who he's

506
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<v Speaker 1>transforming into. So when he transforms into the Hulk, he

507
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 1>has Hulks strength, you know, which was interesting, like we

508
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<v Speaker 1>always get debating with more like what does he actually take.

509
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:47.799
<v Speaker 2>On power as wise? You know?

510
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he apparently takes on the full ability of

511
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<v Speaker 3>their strength, which makes another character transformation that he makes

512
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 3>in this show even more interesting.

513
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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

514
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<v Speaker 1>So, uh, Cyclops teams and Nathan so so yes, I've

515
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>seen him because he's right because they yeah, he's run

516
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>off with Cyclops and Gina's run off with him. So

517
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Cycles of Gene are on their own, taken away from

518
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the camp, and Jane telepathically communicates with Skyclops with questions

519
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that they should really tell Nathan and raise them on

520
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.039
<v Speaker 1>their own and what might happen if the Cable if

521
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 1>they do that, and Nathan breaks in saying I can

522
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>hear you.

523
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Which was such a hilarious moment, like you do you

524
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 3>not realize you you know Cable, You've met Cable in

525
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.240
<v Speaker 3>the future, you know his powers and things like that,

526
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.160
<v Speaker 3>So do you not realize that this kid can hear

527
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 3>this conversation that you're having.

528
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, surprise, surprise, they get ambushed by Apocalypse's robots

529
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and his four horsemen, which are very interesting. Uh these

530
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:50.640
<v Speaker 1>four horsemen. We've got a you know, basically a minotaur

531
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 1>from ancient ancient Greece and Rome. We've got a a

532
00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 1>person from a woman from ancient China. We've got someone

533
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>from Persia, ancient Persia, and then we've got a I'm

534
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 1>assuming this one represents war, this drummer, drummer boy from

535
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the Civil Wars being his agent War. That was that

536
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 1>was the weirdest symbol of forestment I have ever seen.

537
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not a version that we're used to from

538
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:28.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, almost any comic generation, but it was. It was.

539
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 3>It was an interesting group. And then they have Ozy

540
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Mandias with them, who was kind of leading the pack.

541
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 3>But yet you got this drummer guy coming out and

542
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.400
<v Speaker 3>he's banging on this drum and making these like psionic

543
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 3>blasts towards Jean Gray, and it was it's like this,

544
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 3>this is a very different group, yep.

545
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 1>And so they're overpowered, they're taken prisoner. So the rest

546
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of the team searches the site where they were taken,

547
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and Mother Askani says that they were not supposed to

548
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 1>go this way. Storm argues that this could all be

549
00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a step in nathan supportant journey. They all go over

550
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the plan to rescue the Summer's family, and Morphy interrupts

551
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>at different points because again he that's his other special

552
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>power interrupting, and Forge tells him that they're gonna need

553
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of power to catch the train, and they're

554
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna which on which they're gonna be held, and Mother

555
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Skani tells him that they have all the power that

556
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>he needs. And Storm meets with mothers Scani in questions

557
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>like where are they going to find this power? And

558
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.279
<v Speaker 1>she says, you're going to conjure that You're going to

559
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 1>conjure a solar storm, which baffle Storm saying, wait a minute,

560
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I control the weather, and when do you know I

561
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 1>can control like solar power? At that point, and she

562
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 1>explains that she comes from another timeline and that makes

563
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 1>this one look like Heaven, which I liked so in

564
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 1>the comics, her home timeline is the dystopian future in

565
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 1>which human's rule meetings are enslaved or killed, and she

566
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.559
<v Speaker 1>goes on to explain that that in that way and

567
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>every timeline, Storm always leads the resistance. She She also

568
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 1>says that she's the one who brought the X Men

569
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>through the timeline and split the two teams, hoping that

570
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 1>she either stops the apocalypse in the future or stops

571
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>him before he even takes place. In either way, hoping

572
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>for great success.

573
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, like, look, we're either going to fight him

574
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 3>at the height of his power or we're gonna baby

575
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Hitler this thing.

576
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do the don't you?

577
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

578
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh So on the train, Ginge tries to talk to

579
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<v Speaker 1>Nathan through using his virus to break himself free, which

580
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>is kind of interesting, And he got the inhibitor callers again. No, now,

581
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>literally from the nineties, that is still the technology they

582
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>use to inhibit. Nothing improved, nothing make it even more

583
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of simple. Nope, we're still using those inhibitor callers.

584
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Forge helped make a good product that you know,

585
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>he he is the reason that this product does exist,

586
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 3>and you know, they took his technology and just slightly

587
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 3>improved it. But yeah, they're like, hey, well why improve

588
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 3>what's already working so great?

589
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, So, when Nathan tries to quick because it's two

590
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>tough Cyclops and Jane finally revealed that he is their son.

591
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>With this new information, Nathan gets gets that Nathan cable

592
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 1>super super strength and use and manages to use his

593
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:17.079
<v Speaker 1>virus to free them, and a pox of robots immediately attack,

594
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 1>but Cyclops blasts through at that point, and they got

595
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the whole Summer's family having a big moment where uh,

596
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>they're taking down these the the robots.

597
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they they have their their nice little fight scene,

598
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:36.599
<v Speaker 3>and Nathan has a cool moment which you know foreshadows

599
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 3>his time as Cable when he uses telekinesis to bring

600
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:44.480
<v Speaker 3>over this big metal gun and then just starts firing up.

601
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I know that that was cool.

602
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Cyclots looking at them like, yeah, that's my boy.

603
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Straight out of Marble versus Capcom. Straight out of it.

604
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>So meanwhile, Forge gets the team ships ready to launch,

605
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 1>and Storm knows that they're ready there for ready for power.

606
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 1>She summons all the soldafare blast the ship and with

607
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 1>all the power needed, Boom takes off into a warped

608
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Factor nine goes to ludicrous speed, and so on the train.

609
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 1>The Summers continue to fight the robots and now the

610
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Horsemen and Ozamandias are there. In true X Men dramatic fashion,

611
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the team shows up just in time

612
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to join the fight. Storm freezes their enemies with the

613
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Arctic wind, and Morph transforms into who.

614
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Thor thor the Old and Sun?

615
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 3>And was she again? Basic question like how how much

616
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 3>of it? Could you see him? Will this hammer in

617
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 3>his transformation? Like how much of this power? Like does

618
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.839
<v Speaker 3>he have? Like can you the lightning? At this point?

619
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 3>Like I have questions?

620
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>But then Mother Askani eventually crashes the train into the

621
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Apocalypse of Citadel in an attempt to fulfill the process

622
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to see Ozymandias reaches Apocalypse and tells him about the

623
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>arrival of the X Men, enrage. Apocalypse says he has

624
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 1>to attack them where they are most vulnerable in the

625
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties.

626
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>It's so cheesy, so cheesy, So good though, so good.

627
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 1>So he takes off in his cradle, leaving Ozamandias in

628
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 1>the settle behind to go dust in the wind, and

629
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>presumably he arrives into No Show where he saw the

630
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<v Speaker 1>post credits scene from season one. We don't see that,

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<v Speaker 1>but wants to assume, and the team climbs out of

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<v Speaker 1>the wreckage, and the training sees all the slaves that

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<v Speaker 1>Apocalypse emerged from the shadows of the citadel. Nathan uses

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<v Speaker 1>newly mastered telecanatic abilities to move the crash strain, opening

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<v Speaker 1>a pathway to lead to the citadel. Inside, Nathan uses

636
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<v Speaker 1>Apocalypse's own technology to forge his more familiar metal arm

637
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<v Speaker 1>after a disassembled voice welcomes him. Suddenly, we jump to

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<v Speaker 1>a much older Nathan flexing the same arm. He is

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<v Speaker 1>now a weathered mutanz knows Cable and he speaks about

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<v Speaker 1>the struggles to kill Apocalypse. We see he is speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to two means Archange Silock, and he says it's now

642
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<v Speaker 1>up to them, and Siloc says that he has tracked

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<v Speaker 1>down his last horseman and the archangel asked what's their

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<v Speaker 1>next move will be in Cable says it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>recruit and he as he hands over the file on Jubi,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee and sun Spot. Yeah, so y, yeah, one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot that I was saying they had to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of there too in the future that he they

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<v Speaker 1>they send them, They send him forward and Syclops has

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<v Speaker 1>to abandon his kid again. You praise him as he

651
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<v Speaker 1>praised him as a good dad and then he just

652
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<v Speaker 1>leaves his son there.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't have a choice of second one. He wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to stay there, wanted to be with his boy. He

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be there for his child.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he now, did he?

657
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 3>He's like, look, I I'm I'm sorry for everything that

658
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<v Speaker 3>happened with me, and you're I'm gonna say mom's plural,

659
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<v Speaker 3>but I'm trying to be there for you now.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's not there, is he? He's not there. He's

661
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<v Speaker 2>abandoned his child again, just like an comics. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Well that is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything more we want to say on episode one, The

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<v Speaker 1>Days of Past Future.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was. It was a good first episode to

666
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<v Speaker 3>get them back on track. A lot of action in

667
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 3>the fight scenes are fun and so very well animated.

668
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm love this the animation that they're doing with the

669
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 3>power sets and everything like that. So it's it was

670
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<v Speaker 3>a good deep dive, like right back into the series

671
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>with a lot of little small easter eggs. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>these first three episodes are filled with a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>small easter eggs, but I'm I'm really excited going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think the best the best thing for

675
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<v Speaker 1>it was to look at the future one.

676
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<v Speaker 2>I think it.

677
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 1>People always have a lot more of a affinity for

678
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>episodes to happen in the future, especially with the X Men's

679
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 1>history of going in and out of the future. So,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're gonna take our first ad break before

681
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<v Speaker 1>we head into the second episode. So the listeners, these

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<v Speaker 2>Three two one. We'll be right back and we are back,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode two a force to be Reckoned with. So we

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<v Speaker 1>left off with cable archangel in Silock. Yeah, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get into the history of Silock at this point

691
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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know which version of silok it is.

692
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>We're just going to go with the non confusing form.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Betsy Braddock, not the quant on history that

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<v Speaker 1>that was, because that gets timey wine wildly and that's

695
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<v Speaker 1>all kind of insanity.

696
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>At this point, we're not gonna go into that. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do Betsy Braddock Silock in this form.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are opening with a group of mutant kids

699
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<v Speaker 1>being chased. As soon as we see another mutant is

700
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<v Speaker 1>chasing them. Uh, the man replicates himself all altering that,

701
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<v Speaker 1>alerting us that the different versions of us. That is

702
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Maddrix, multiple men who if you want to see

703
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<v Speaker 1>multiple men in the non Joki phase and really have

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00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>amazing character develpment read Peter David run on X Factor.

705
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>He does amazing stuff with that character and that brings

706
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>way more depth of the character than anyone has ever

707
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>had before him. So another mutant, and that is that

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are running to the X Mansion to find

709
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 1>it in utter ruin. Imagine that the X Men mansion

710
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>in ruin. It has, you know, just got to be

711
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>like every other every other movie right as Deadpool says

712
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 1>that they got to build a new one, and they

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<v Speaker 1>argue what to do. Next, we see that two of

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<v Speaker 1>the notable members of this group are known in the comics.

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<v Speaker 1>We got kid Omega is the pink haired young one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we got Penance in her non non kind

717
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of monster like for him. And they argument is interrupted

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00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>not by morph this time, but as a light shining

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<v Speaker 1>down with a boice saying that assumes assures then that

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00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 1>they are the good guys, and we see this team

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<v Speaker 1>come down. They are X Factor. They are the government

722
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<v Speaker 1>sponsored mutant led team that are apparently taking mutants in

723
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<v Speaker 1>and keeping them safe when it kind of looks like

724
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<v Speaker 1>they're capturing them and imprisoning them.

725
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seems more they're putting the inhibitor callers on them.

726
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<v Speaker 3>It does seem more of an imprisoning And yet we

727
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<v Speaker 3>get first look at Havoc, Polaris Shining and all her

728
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<v Speaker 3>green glory, strong Guy, Wolf Spaine, and multiple Men, and

729
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<v Speaker 3>I mean they have this it does give off the

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<v Speaker 3>tone of, you know, for anyone who has like the

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<v Speaker 3>John Walker version of Captain America, like hey, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>here for you know, on behalf of the government and

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<v Speaker 3>all this other stuff. And yeah, it's they They're definitely

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<v Speaker 3>government agents and not the good guys that they profess

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<v Speaker 3>themselves to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the team of this X Factor has gone through

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<v Speaker 1>different iterations over the time, but this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what we look at as the mostly mostly original

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<v Speaker 1>team as in the comics. Havoc, who is Scott Sommer's brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Summers, Polaris, strong Guy, Wolf Spain, and the aforementioned

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple Man. Two of the characters are actually a very

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<v Speaker 1>strong ties the X Men havoc as I said, being

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<v Speaker 1>the brother of cyclast Polaris being the daughter of Magneto.

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<v Speaker 1>News report reveals that X Factor has been contract videos

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<v Speaker 1>government to control crisis and handle mutant issues. We see

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<v Speaker 1>that Jubilee is watching the report at an arcade. There

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<v Speaker 1>is also a fun easter egg in this moment that

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<v Speaker 1>we see the menu in jubilees right. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>items particularly viewable reads the mall Babes Babes ch And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go ahead and assume that the menu item that

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<v Speaker 1>finishes with chili fries, which would also be reference to

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<v Speaker 1>Jubilee's classic line from the originally administries, does the.

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<v Speaker 2>Mall babe eat chili fries? So that's a nod to that.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of fun and callbacks throughout this.

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<v Speaker 2>Show, yep, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sunspot returns after playing some video games and the

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<v Speaker 1>two debate whether they're not good wasting their time in

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<v Speaker 1>the arcade while the world is going into casts without

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<v Speaker 1>the X Men, And they're interrupted by Cable because he's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at the table drinking drinking them soda in a

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<v Speaker 1>ball cap, because remember where a ball cap in Marvel Universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows who the heck you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the black on the eye or the other glowing eye,

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<v Speaker 3>none of that out of that. Yep, I put on

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<v Speaker 3>a ball cap. You don't know it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>He explains that his target is Apocalypse and that one

768
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<v Speaker 1>of his horsemen has recently resurfaced. The horsemen in question

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<v Speaker 1>is called War, and yes, Apocalypse does have four horsemen

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<v Speaker 1>by the names of Pestilence, War, Famine, and Death. He

771
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<v Speaker 1>transforms Mute into using his futuristic tech to take on these.

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<v Speaker 2>Roles and act as a slave.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember one of the members of Cable's team, Archangel, He

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the Apocalypses horsemen and his that was

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<v Speaker 1>his horseman of Death. Cable plays on jubileeze guilt towards

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<v Speaker 1>sitting out and to fight, and convinces her to join.

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<v Speaker 1>But before she agrees to do so, she asked if

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<v Speaker 1>the team has a name and we get an iconic

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<v Speaker 1>title sequence, it is not the X Men ninety seven secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>We get a we get the.

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<v Speaker 1>X Men titles, not the X mentitle. It reads X

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<v Speaker 1>Force ninety seven. We see Cable, Jubilee, Sunspots, Silok, and

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<v Speaker 1>Archangel are introduced in the title sequence. New images knew

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<v Speaker 1>even a new like much more heavier on the electric

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00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 1>guitar riff. Oh my gosh, I think Travis said did

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<v Speaker 1>it best in his review on geek First the other

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<v Speaker 1>the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, that's all I can think. Chills, absolute chills. That

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<v Speaker 2>was like grinning ear to ear. It is so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me an X Force show. This was so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad they leaned it instead of just doing the

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00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>X Men ninety seven thing. They went, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I like about when shows do this is it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's have a little bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. It worked. It works so well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it a cool opening light. They didn't just

797
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 3>switch the title light. They went all in on everything,

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<v Speaker 3>reanimating the scene with Cable and Apocalypse from the original

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<v Speaker 3>X Men show, like everyone got their own set entrances

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<v Speaker 3>and moments, and they recreated the running scene. They recreated

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00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 3>the mutants going and hitting up on getting caught on

802
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 3>the cage with the runaways there. They had X Force

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<v Speaker 3>as the opposing team instead of Magnetos scene like, everything

804
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.400
<v Speaker 3>was just ye. It was. It was a cool little

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<v Speaker 3>They redid the entire thing so it was more than

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<v Speaker 3>just where you switched the title card. They they switched

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00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 3>that entire thing and it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So so we get to X Force tracking War to

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil where they chased him to an alley, and Sunspot,

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<v Speaker 1>being familiar with the location, manages to track him down

812
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.159
<v Speaker 1>first and he and Jubilee get the drop on him. Eventually,

813
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<v Speaker 1>the whole team overwhelms him and Silok knocks him out

814
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<v Speaker 1>with her psychic psionic abilities. With War tied up, Cable

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<v Speaker 1>questions him, and the Horseman remains loyal to Apocalypse though,

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<v Speaker 1>even though taunting Archangel, who, as we said it was

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<v Speaker 1>a former Horseman himself. Archangel knocks him out and Slok

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<v Speaker 1>begins to read his mind, and Jubilee starts questioning like

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<v Speaker 1>should they be doing that without their permission? And Cable

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00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 1>tells her that they won't be following the same rules

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<v Speaker 1>the ass they remember their ex Force. They're black Ops

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<v Speaker 1>and Silaxi's War delivering something the Apocalypse before it's blocked

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<v Speaker 1>out and by a wall of diamonds, and Cable hands

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<v Speaker 1>his gun to Archangel and orders him to kill War.

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<v Speaker 1>Jubilee protests this, but Ourchagel pulls the trigger, killing War.

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<v Speaker 2>I was impressed with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if that was actually gonna happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>they did very you know, killing someone tastefully. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a weird thing to say, but one I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of little. You know, you are a horseman of the

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<v Speaker 1>Apocalypse war. I didn't see much of his abilities really

832
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<v Speaker 1>kind of shine out too much. His hand to hand

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00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>commet was very suspect, and they took him down rather quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that that X Force couldn't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is supposed to be a horseman of the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't have been easy to take him down. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed a little too you know, we got to move

838
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:29.119
<v Speaker 1>the plot along, you know.

839
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was that they had him there to just

840
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 3>advance and give the information on what's going on with Apocalypse,

841
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 3>plus give a little foreshadow with him helping carrying the

842
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.639
<v Speaker 3>coffin two Apocalypse. And then after that, yeah, he had

843
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.480
<v Speaker 3>his execution moment and you know, they did an off

844
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 3>camera execution, but you know what happened, and the look

845
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 3>on Jubilee's face like, oh, we we're that type of team.

846
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And even going back to how they captured him too,

847
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Jubilee got moves like she's taken to.

848
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Cable's training of a soldier. She's changed.

849
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.119
<v Speaker 1>She's kind of like, you know, she's still got her

850
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 1>iconic gold gold you know, trench code at that point,

851
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.119
<v Speaker 1>but her but what she's wearing underneath is you know,

852
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.079
<v Speaker 1>all dark, a little bit of pink outlines at that point.

853
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 1>But I like that, especially we see it at the

854
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>end of this episode, like she holds her own. It's

855
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 1>not like she is very much a good fighter and

856
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 1>no longer like just seems to be the useless teenager

857
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and using her powers to be effective, not necessarily deadly,

858
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>but to be effective with it. I was very impressed

859
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:43.639
<v Speaker 1>with the action sequence, but particularly what she showed it,

860
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.679
<v Speaker 1>not just here, but at the end of the episode.

861
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if you look closely in the title sequence,

862
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.880
<v Speaker 3>the new one that they hit, they show her blindfolded

863
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.199
<v Speaker 3>training with psiloc and as one of the scenes that

864
00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 3>is in that title sequence, so like she she's been

865
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 3>put through the training. He didn't grab two randoms and

866
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 3>you know thim on the team. They actually got the

867
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 3>training and became soldiers.

868
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'll tell you what I do like sun

869
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Spots like new updated kind of look at his abilities.

870
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.159
<v Speaker 1>That may not care from Roberto as a character, but

871
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I do like his power, saying when he gets to

872
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:21.079
<v Speaker 1>throw off his mute and abilities. But on their jet,

873
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Jubilee argues with Cable over the killing of an unarmed mutant.

874
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:27.760
<v Speaker 1>She tells him that if he wants her to continue helping,

875
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>she wants to limit limit the killing.

876
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't they stop it?

877
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.679
<v Speaker 3>But yeah? Cable question, turn it down a bit?

878
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, take it down like you get two kills a day.

879
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Cable questions what she has to offer, and Jubilee points

880
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 1>out that a psychic wall was made of diamonds and

881
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.079
<v Speaker 1>reminds her of a specific telepath who they met in

882
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Genosha and the team has that is Emma Frost, the

883
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>White Queen and so in London next for surprises Emma

884
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 1>in her home. They questioned her on her dealings with

885
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>war and she says she's helped him to smuggle cargo

886
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.679
<v Speaker 1>to Switzerland. They had a warehouse with Emma and Tow

887
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and Soil. There they find the equipment like what Apocalypse

888
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>uses to transform mutants into the horsemen, but Archangel points

889
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 1>out that the equipment is more advanced than what they

890
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>used on him. Jubilee finds empty crates and points out

891
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 1>that if Apocalypse was there, he had finished whatever they

892
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:21.599
<v Speaker 1>had worked on and left. And the team then gets

893
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>ambushed by none other than X Factor, and it's clear

894
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that Emma set them up.

895
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Because she's like, hey, I got bills to pay too, so.

896
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, So the two mutant teams begin to

897
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>fight until Polaris restrains all of X Force. Gibilee tries

898
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 1>the reason where they're saying that, hey, you're an X men,

899
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 1>how are you aligned with a government agency that seems

900
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that they can barely tolerate you? And Jubilee manages to

901
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 1>free the team and they all almost escape, but she

902
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 1>is caught by Havoc. Some Spot tries to go back

903
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.559
<v Speaker 1>for but Silock puts him to sleep and they leave

904
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Jubilee behind. So not surprised they did that, goes again

905
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and cable through the needs of many outweags that needs

906
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a few. It's not like he doesn't care about you blee.

907
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 1>But it's better to escape and kind of circle back

908
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 1>and figure out how they can get you bleed than

909
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to everyone be captured.

910
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now, and this is another thing like with this scene.

911
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 3>So they are sneaking to meet up and they're like

912
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.280
<v Speaker 3>all dressed down in these fancy clothes because they're popping

913
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:29.400
<v Speaker 3>in on Emma Frost's party. I have to believe that

914
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 3>there is some sort of technology or at least good

915
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:35.719
<v Speaker 3>enough makeup that Cable could have covered the black stuff

916
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 3>around his eye to make him look less like Cable.

917
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:43.280
<v Speaker 3>You've got this big guy who is I'm guessing is

918
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.679
<v Speaker 3>somewhere around like six three to six five two point

919
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 3>forty of just stacked muscle and then the silver hair

920
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and the mark on the eye, like he's pretty recognizable.

921
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 3>You're not sneaking around anywhere baseball cap, no baseball cap,

922
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 3>putting on a suit rather than your battle outfit whatever else,

923
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 3>Like you are still Cable and you are doing nothing

924
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:05.239
<v Speaker 3>to hide this.

925
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's yeah, you don't hide at that one. Especially

926
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 1>he's not like he's not like peak nineties bulky Cable

927
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.320
<v Speaker 1>at that point where he's muscle on muscle like life

928
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Field style.

929
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.519
<v Speaker 2>But you know, he is a big guy.

930
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>So what appears to be a hellicare hellicareer on loan

931
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>from shield Over, DC, Polaris and Havoc and Terrogate.

932
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>You believe, and I love it when she does. She

933
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.920
<v Speaker 2>refers to Havoc as knockoff Cyclops, and.

934
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.079
<v Speaker 3>That's the first real acknowledgment that we get that you

935
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:40.320
<v Speaker 3>know there there's a connection between them, because it's never

936
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 3>truly referenced. Hey, this is Alex Summers. This is his brother.

937
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 3>So the knockoff Cyclops line is is a little bit funny.

938
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 2>It is good.

939
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.079
<v Speaker 1>The only other thing we have some acknowledgment is when

940
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>they in the episode during the original series, or Havoc

941
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 1>is introduced and the X Factor team is introduced in

942
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 1>the original series, when Cyclops and Alex user powers against

943
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.559
<v Speaker 1>each other, they don't work. That's the other kind of hint,

944
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 1>because that's also true in the comics. They their powers

945
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 1>don't work on each other. Polaris acts asks him to

946
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 1>get some time, and he leaves the two alone. She

947
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 1>tries to reason with Jubilee to get information about Cable's mission,

948
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 1>but she resists. Havoc also returns to take Jubilee to

949
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 1>sell filled with dozens of other mutant children. Lots of

950
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>character references there here. We get we see some noble

951
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>mutant sets as step Bird Cuckoos are there. We also

952
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 1>get Glob there too, Lovable Glob and sun Spot is

953
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 1>arguing with Cable about going back to help Jubilee, but

954
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 1>the leader of the exports team refuses. Back in the

955
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 1>hell career, though, Polaris cuts the security camera and goes

956
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 1>to Jubilee and sets her free. She said, I'm gonna

957
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:50.880
<v Speaker 1>give you five minutes. What you do in those five

958
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.519
<v Speaker 1>minutes is up to you. And let's just say Jubilee

959
00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>takes those five minutes and runs with it. She is

960
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>she's you know. Guard starts warming her. She puts on

961
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 1>her walkman, and here's a good I like this was

962
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.320
<v Speaker 1>actually a pretty good needle drop with with this one.

963
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 1>It fit her character, it fit the scene, and this

964
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:17.280
<v Speaker 1>is what it shows, really showcases the song being Volcano

965
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Girls by Ruka salt Rados x Fource tells him that

966
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 1>she's escaped and she needs them to come back and

967
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:26.599
<v Speaker 1>pick her up, but she tears through the guard so easily,

968
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:32.280
<v Speaker 1>just showcasing the powers. She says, hey, I'm not alone,

969
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.800
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be paid for gets them to pick up

970
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the children too, and as she tries to escape up

971
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 1>parachuting off the roof, Havoc blasts the shoot out of

972
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 1>her hand before she could jump, and she basically and

973
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 1>that's when we see Val Cooper, who we saw on

974
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.039
<v Speaker 1>the TV before, and she's the leader of X Factor,

975
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to have her come back in and as to

976
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 1>fine as she Jubilee continues to be, she says, uh

977
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think basically doesn't she flip her off.

978
00:51:54.760 --> 00:52:00.039
<v Speaker 3>To yeah and yeah, I like this is true, and

979
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:03.519
<v Speaker 3>Jubilee still being herself, like she's got the military training

980
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 3>down from Cable and Silac, but she pops out skates

981
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.840
<v Speaker 3>in her shoes as she's helping these kids escape and

982
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.519
<v Speaker 3>all this other stuff. She is just having fun and

983
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.760
<v Speaker 3>she does like a cool move where she circles and

984
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.800
<v Speaker 3>does like little jet set radio type skating around the

985
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 3>room and hitting people with her powers and stuff like that,

986
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 3>only to be clotheslined by some random.

987
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>The Yeah, but then Polaris asked how Jubilie escaped, and

988
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I think I think both Ball and Havoc have an

989
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:39.519
<v Speaker 1>idea that Polaris was responsible for that because she agrees

990
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't like what X Factor is necessarily doing and

991
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.119
<v Speaker 1>feels her allegiances. If push comes to shove, she'll stay

992
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 1>with the X men. So experts watches a report that

993
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Val calls them national fugitives. Jubilee argues that what they

994
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:56.960
<v Speaker 1>did needed to be done. Arkintel sides with her, but

995
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.360
<v Speaker 1>tells Cable that apocalypse is still out there and fight

996
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.039
<v Speaker 1>isn't for a bunch of kids. Cable flashes back to

997
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the future when he had to make the decision to

998
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 1>send his parents and the rest of the X Men away.

999
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.159
<v Speaker 1>He thinks he's made that decision man Cyclops did. We're

1000
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 1>just gonna go back to Thyclops influenced his say I

1001
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 1>gotta go back. I don't need you here anymore. I

1002
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:18.639
<v Speaker 1>got what I needed at This is the best kind

1003
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 1>of parent raising I get to see every so often,

1004
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and then by the time I see you again, you're

1005
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 1>an adult and I've done a great job as father

1006
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:25.039
<v Speaker 1>of the Year.

1007
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know. So, I'm thinking back to this scene

1008
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and this is this is one thing that bothered me.

1009
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 3>And it's a little nitpicky about this, but where did

1010
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Gene and Cyclops get new uniforms from? Because when they

1011
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:46.199
<v Speaker 3>were transported, Cyclops was in his traditional blue with the

1012
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.920
<v Speaker 3>stripeover and Jane was in her Marvel girl out that

1013
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.360
<v Speaker 3>now they've got cool new uniforms, Like who in the

1014
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:55.400
<v Speaker 3>future was like, hey, we've got these ready and waiting

1015
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 3>for you. Because now he's wearing a blue one with

1016
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:00.320
<v Speaker 3>an X on it.

1017
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 2>That's and that's and that's his uniform.

1018
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>When the first iteration of X factor not government sponsored,

1019
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:11.000
<v Speaker 1>but when Scott and Gene redo their own X Men

1020
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.280
<v Speaker 1>team and call it X Factor, that's his costume.

1021
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And Gene goes from just her little green skirt

1022
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.679
<v Speaker 3>to like a full outfit and everything. I'm like, who

1023
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:21.519
<v Speaker 3>provided you all with this?

1024
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, in the future you can just manifestuff because

1025
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 1>like alien costumes.

1026
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Too, you know. Yeah, but.

1027
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:36.159
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so Cable realized, Nathan realizes that they gotta

1028
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 1>he's got to send him back, and you know, during

1029
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.039
<v Speaker 1>that moment, we see the disembodied voice that welcomed him

1030
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 1>to Apocalypse. Citel has become the field computer represented by

1031
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the Small Cube, and after reluctantly sends his parents away,

1032
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.559
<v Speaker 1>we come back to the present where Cable appears ready

1033
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 1>for a fight. So great surprise. This was a great episode.

1034
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I think this is my favorite of the all the three.

1035
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 1>An X first episode was certainly not something I expected,

1036
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.159
<v Speaker 1>but it made for some great action allowed Jubilee to

1037
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 1>really This was a great spotlight episode for not only

1038
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the expector for Jubilee much better than the spotlight episode

1039
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>she got last season. Yeah, no Mojo Verse, no, please know,

1040
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I can't stand Mojo. He ranks up there with the Arcade.

1041
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I cannot stand either one of those characters at all.

1042
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:36.079
<v Speaker 1>The video game alone cemented my hatred of Arcade Arcades Revenge,

1043
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, what a that is a game I do

1044
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.840
<v Speaker 1>not play at all, you know, So it'll be interesting

1045
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to see where, you know, I know we're going to

1046
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 1>see X Force again. This season is not just a

1047
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>one off. They're all we've seen kind of like the

1048
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:53.800
<v Speaker 1>hero shot and one of the trailers. But I would

1049
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 1>love to see more of X Force. I would love

1050
00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to see, you know, we get x Y day seven.

1051
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I know everyone like sees the team, but I would

1052
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>love to see maybe little mini series of just X Force,

1053
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:06.880
<v Speaker 1>X Factor, you know, just the comics have it. Let's

1054
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 1>just focus a couple of these and just I don't

1055
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>we don't need a whole, like a whole new series started,

1056
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.719
<v Speaker 1>but I would love maybe a couple of like two

1057
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.159
<v Speaker 1>or three episode just like, give me an arc you

1058
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>know of just X Factor, Give me an arc of

1059
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:21.400
<v Speaker 1>X Force, just to kind of see something different. It

1060
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of changes things up. Yeah, definitely, but but all right,

1061
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna take our next ad break before we

1062
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.280
<v Speaker 1>head into the final episode. We're gonna be breaking down

1063
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.320
<v Speaker 1>tonight and so, as you know, listeners, these ads help

1064
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.199
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1065
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:38.559
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00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:39.800
<v Speaker 1>they could be a bit loud, So give you that

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00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:42.119
<v Speaker 1>three coup before they come on three to one.

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00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:43.320
<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back.

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00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 1>And we're back, all right, The Rise of Apocalypse Part one, David,

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00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you just start off talking about this one?

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00:56:53.840 --> 00:57:00.360
<v Speaker 3>All right? So we we're back with the Forged team

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00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:06.079
<v Speaker 3>at this point, and this it starts out with the

1073
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 3>team from the future the going to the expansion find

1074
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:10.639
<v Speaker 3>out that the team from the past is still gone.

1075
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 3>Psyclops says that they should go find them, but Forge

1076
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:18.480
<v Speaker 3>argues that they don't know where they are and in

1077
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:21.880
<v Speaker 3>the past is whether they're at you know, three thousand

1078
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 3>BC to be exact, And we get our first looks

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00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:31.559
<v Speaker 3>at the young Uh in Sabonnor who is going to

1080
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 3>go on to be Apocalypse. So Uh. In the past,

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00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 3>we see Magneto attempting to manipulate in Saboneur, long before

1082
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:42.280
<v Speaker 3>he would ever become Apocalypse. He tells him that he

1083
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 3>could be a god among insects. Uh Before we see

1084
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:50.440
<v Speaker 3>in Saemonor leading a group into battle. Interesting though, the

1085
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 3>pharaoh in Samonor poses appears to be using futuristic technology.

1086
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:58.480
<v Speaker 3>There's a dome over the city, Like this isn't your

1087
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:03.320
<v Speaker 3>typical eg that you remember from biblical tells in various

1088
00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:07.320
<v Speaker 3>movies and things like that. This is definitely you know something,

1089
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:09.159
<v Speaker 3>something is added to this.

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00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:16.079
<v Speaker 1>And that and that of pharaoh is Rama Tut. Yes,

1091
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>who's one of the many names used by a certain

1092
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 1>character that has had some troublesome history live action. But

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00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.320
<v Speaker 1>this is a alias of Kang the Conqueror.

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00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.079
<v Speaker 3>Yep. So, I mean they they did tell Marvel did

1095
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 3>say King will return, They just didn't.

1096
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And we did have confirmation today that they did use

1097
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>instrumental sequences from Loki when King was featured.

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00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:44.880
<v Speaker 2>In this episode.

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00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:45.519
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 1>So, I'm gonna step away for a minute to get

1101
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a drink, So continue on.

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00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 3>GOA. So we see the Furrow receive word that in

1103
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Savineur is leading the Sandstormers against him. He appears to

1104
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.840
<v Speaker 3>be unsurprised and orders his general Logos to redirect his

1105
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 3>forces towards the coming fights. Logo speaks towards a group

1106
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:11.360
<v Speaker 3>of slaves who are being controlled by an army of robots. Again,

1107
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:15.519
<v Speaker 3>we've got some futuristic aspects to this. In his speech,

1108
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Logos names the pharaoh, calling him Rama Tut. This explains

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00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:25.519
<v Speaker 3>the futuristic technology that Rama Tut has, because again King

1110
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 3>using that future technology, crossing through various timelines, he would

1111
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:37.400
<v Speaker 3>have access to that. So in the comics, King went

1112
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.840
<v Speaker 3>to ancient Egypt in search of in Sabonor because he

1113
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:43.760
<v Speaker 3>knew that one day he would become the most powerful

1114
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 3>being on earth and hope.

1115
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 2>He could control that power.

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00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:51.400
<v Speaker 3>So in Sabonor and his army stop just outside the

1117
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:53.880
<v Speaker 3>walls of the city. They plan to attack, and he

1118
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:57.880
<v Speaker 3>talks briefly with Ball, a man he counts as family.

1119
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:02.239
<v Speaker 3>This is like his right hand man. At the same time, Magneto,

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01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:06.000
<v Speaker 3>in an astral projection of Charles, watched the impending battle

1121
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 3>from a nearby cliff. As Magneto explains that he intends

1122
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:13.039
<v Speaker 3>to use the pharaohs technology to get them home, but

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01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Charles protests his use of apocalypse to do so. They

1124
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:21.599
<v Speaker 3>again as always they're at odds. Magneto's thinking, hey, this

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01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.840
<v Speaker 3>is an opportunity to get us home. We can use

1126
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:27.320
<v Speaker 3>these people to our advantage. We can get Apocalypse on

1127
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.920
<v Speaker 3>our side, while Charles is very much like, we shouldn't

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01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 3>be using someone we should you know, involve him in that,

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01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:39.039
<v Speaker 3>and they're just having their little astral plane back and forth.

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01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even with that, I it was.

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01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Kind of interesting seeing Charles pushback on Eric doing trying

1132
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:53.599
<v Speaker 1>to make trying to turn Apocalypse to their side.

1133
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 2>One huge task.

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01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:57.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, if anyone's gonna try to do it,

1135
01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:01.320
<v Speaker 1>why not Magneto, who kind of dabbles in and good

1136
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.639
<v Speaker 1>guy bad guy, good guy bad guy antagonists, maybe not antagonists,

1137
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:08.679
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's kind of interesting to me saying Charles

1138
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.079
<v Speaker 1>is actually kind of making sense with his warning that

1139
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.800
<v Speaker 1>we don't know the effects. I'm not saying keeping up

1140
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Pocket was a bad guy is a good thing, but

1141
01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>we also don't know the danger of if we do

1142
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.639
<v Speaker 1>turn him, the history is gonna fight back about something,

1143
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.199
<v Speaker 1>so what could be created worse? So it's not a

1144
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:30.480
<v Speaker 1>bad theory that Charles trying to push back a little

1145
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.039
<v Speaker 1>bit on what Eric's doing.

1146
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:37.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so Eric is at the battle, Charles is

1147
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 3>looking over in the astral plane form. And then at

1148
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:47.199
<v Speaker 3>this point and Savignor launches his attack and his army

1149
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:52.559
<v Speaker 3>is quickly swarmed by these robots. He's trapped under hundreds

1150
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.960
<v Speaker 3>of them, and it gets to the city or close

1151
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:59.840
<v Speaker 3>to the delight of Logos. Seconds later though, Emmon sort

1152
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:05.400
<v Speaker 3>he breaks through the wall and begins just decimating their robots.

1153
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, my man is like I like to say,

1154
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:09.360
<v Speaker 3>he is throwing.

1155
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Hands, throwing hands.

1156
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:14.679
<v Speaker 3>There we go, so we get this is a cool

1157
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:18.639
<v Speaker 3>like fight scene with insidon nerd. Just the way that

1158
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.159
<v Speaker 3>he's breaking through, the way that he's fighting back against

1159
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:27.239
<v Speaker 3>these robots. They throw these like electric leashes at him

1160
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:29.719
<v Speaker 3>and grab on to him, and he's just tossing them

1161
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.320
<v Speaker 3>left and right through the scaffolding like he is definitely

1162
01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:34.320
<v Speaker 3>holding his own.

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01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:36.360
<v Speaker 1>And a couple of things I wanted to point out,

1164
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:38.599
<v Speaker 1>like the voice actors that they guess voice actors of

1165
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:42.880
<v Speaker 1>this Gates McFadden, uh, doctor Beverley Crusher from Star Trek

1166
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:47.679
<v Speaker 1>voices mother Askani. We've got Michael Dorn voicing I believe

1167
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:52.079
<v Speaker 1>it's Bond the the thorn in, you know, the one

1168
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.199
<v Speaker 1>who ends up like kind of ruining Magneto's plans, his

1169
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.920
<v Speaker 1>apocalypse right hand man, and then I want to make

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01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:06.679
<v Speaker 1>sure I get this right. John Delancey plays Rama tut

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01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I was hearing the I was

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01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 1>hearing particularly the wic why does that voice comes there?

1173
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I picked up Michael Dorn's very He's got a you know,

1174
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:15.639
<v Speaker 1>war from Star Trek, very distinctive voice, Michael Dorn, but

1175
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Johnna John Delancey was like, why have I heard this thing?

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01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:21.880
<v Speaker 2>So he was playing Rama tut.

1178
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:28.400
<v Speaker 3>So somewhere we're at here all right. So, like I said,

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01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:36.119
<v Speaker 3>the battle is going on and in Samnor is just

1180
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:41.840
<v Speaker 3>displaying his strength. Magneto's floating above watching all of this.

1181
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Like this overlord.

1182
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's floating in the sky arms cross just like good,

1183
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:52.840
<v Speaker 3>embrace this good.

1184
01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:57.360
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like it's interesting that Apac is looking to

1185
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Magneto for approval, like for what he's doing, especially at

1186
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that moment where he has the ability to kill someone,

1187
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.360
<v Speaker 1>is not like he makes that decision not to kill. Yeah,

1188
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and it was althoing like that foreshadowing moment where it's like, okay,

1189
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 1>we know there's going to come to a moment where

1190
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:13.840
<v Speaker 1>he is going to kill and it's gonna be game

1191
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 1>over at that point, but it's just it was interesting

1192
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:18.400
<v Speaker 1>at that when when that happened.

1193
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so he said, and Samoner he approaches the fallen

1194
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:27.320
<v Speaker 3>general Ball tells him to take his head, and Savineur

1195
01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:31.840
<v Speaker 3>looks up at Magneto, who's by like, yes, do it.

1196
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:40.199
<v Speaker 3>And at that point, instead of taking his head, and

1197
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Savignor just you know, gives him this huge curb stomp

1198
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:48.239
<v Speaker 3>and lets him live, spares his life instead, to the

1199
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:52.480
<v Speaker 3>surprise of everyone, Magneto sends a message to Charles and

1200
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:55.079
<v Speaker 3>says to send the team to recover the robots so

1201
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:58.320
<v Speaker 3>that they can salvage the technology from that m h.

1202
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And so because they're try trying to get back, they're

1203
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:04.559
<v Speaker 1>trying to get back where David, where are they trying

1204
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:05.039
<v Speaker 1>to get back?

1205
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:06.840
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to get back to the future.

1206
01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:12.559
<v Speaker 2>No, they're trying to get back to the nineties. Come on, because.

1207
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:16.079
<v Speaker 3>You know the again, the most pivotal point in all

1208
01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 3>of human history is the nineteen nineties.

1209
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.760
<v Speaker 2>God, I love it. Anyways, continue right, So.

1210
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Nightcrawler returns to a makeshift lab with bags full of

1211
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:35.480
<v Speaker 3>robot parts. Beast and Rogue are there and they're working

1212
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:37.880
<v Speaker 3>on a machine to get them home, and Beast fires

1213
01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:38.920
<v Speaker 3>it up after.

1214
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.039
<v Speaker 1>A moment, though, well, let's falls at that one with

1215
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:43.920
<v Speaker 1>like when the light Crawler brings back things, was it

1216
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:47.920
<v Speaker 1>is it Charles or Beast that says was he seen

1217
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:52.760
<v Speaker 1>night Crawlers response saying I wasn't. But when you have

1218
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.159
<v Speaker 1>robots and all these other things that are from the

1219
01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:59.360
<v Speaker 1>future that no one else is questioning, I'm pretty confident

1220
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:03.400
<v Speaker 1>that a a demon is the least of their their warriors.

1221
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:06.039
<v Speaker 1>At that point, I was like, God, that's good writing.

1222
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:08.679
<v Speaker 1>That is that is exactly my snarky response back to

1223
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:09.559
<v Speaker 1>them too, you know.

1224
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's just funny, like everything that is going on.

1225
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:20.639
<v Speaker 3>This team just seems like the most rag tag group

1226
01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:23.920
<v Speaker 3>of people. And yes, uh, the professor is the one

1227
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.679
<v Speaker 3>who asks him, and he's like, yeah, nut, a soul

1228
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:32.039
<v Speaker 3>saw me. Although in an ancient Egypt of murderous robots,

1229
01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.639
<v Speaker 3>I would imagine a demon lurking among them would hardly

1230
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 3>come as a surprise.

1231
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was. It was a good line. So so.

1232
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:49.000
<v Speaker 3>At that point I said, they are they're trying to

1233
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:55.320
<v Speaker 3>get the machines working and it keeps failing. Be says

1234
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:58.639
<v Speaker 3>that they need more power Xavier says Magneto's plan is

1235
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:02.400
<v Speaker 3>to get information from Logos on how to adapt the

1236
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Pharaohs technology. They just have to trust in seven not

1237
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:11.039
<v Speaker 3>to kill him. So we get back to Magneto. He's

1238
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:17.480
<v Speaker 3>riding with in Sevener and his remaining army warns Magneto

1239
01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:21.199
<v Speaker 3>that Bald does not trust him, which, again, it's Magneto,

1240
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 3>you probably shouldn't, so the guy's got good instincts there.

1241
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:32.800
<v Speaker 3>When Magneto returns to the team, they argue over how

1242
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:36.679
<v Speaker 3>to get information out of Logos. Ner interrupts their debate

1243
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 3>and is overjoyed to be amongst other mutants after having

1244
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:44.159
<v Speaker 3>spent his whole life being the only one. Ball Interer's

1245
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:48.199
<v Speaker 3>next embrace Ner for not continuing his attack on the Pharaoh.

1246
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Magneto argues that they would have been killed, and Ner

1247
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.360
<v Speaker 3>stops argument and says Magneto mentioned a destiny for him,

1248
01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:01.559
<v Speaker 3>which grabs Xavier's attention. So obviously they've been Magneto has

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<v Speaker 3>been having some conversations with Insabnrd that Charles like, wait

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01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:09.480
<v Speaker 3>a minute, I thought we agreed on one thing, and

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01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:11.840
<v Speaker 3>it looks like you're pulling him into a different direction.

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01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:18.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the you know, the game they're playing. You know,

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01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you always have one up on.

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<v Speaker 3>Charles yep So Baal tells ner that he's giving him

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01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:31.520
<v Speaker 3>one day before he kills Logos himself. At this point,

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01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:35.479
<v Speaker 3>Xavier's question in Magneto about this destiny that he sees

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01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:39.159
<v Speaker 3>for Ner. Magneto explains that his plan is to get

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01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Nerd to launch Exavier's dream of peace between humans and

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01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:46.880
<v Speaker 3>mutants thousands of years before he ever could. With the

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01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:51.079
<v Speaker 3>mutant as powerful as Nerd championing that dream from the beginning,

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01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:56.359
<v Speaker 3>it would have to work, which I don't know. The

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01:08:57.199 --> 01:09:01.680
<v Speaker 3>three thousand years of other history, says wise, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you got Nerve questioning Logos but doesn't get

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01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:09.720
<v Speaker 1>the answers he's looking for. Logos goats him into killing him,

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01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 1>but Magneto stops him. Ner leaves Magneto and Xavier and

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<v Speaker 1>with Logos and tells him that the Pharaoh is looking

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01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:20.680
<v Speaker 1>for a temple with cosmic power. Zaber looks into Logos's

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01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:22.800
<v Speaker 1>mind for more information on this temple, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>greeted with a voice that tells him the end is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>The voice calls him to be him to the Sphynx

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01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and in the comics, this is actually Kang's ship. The

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01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:36.720
<v Speaker 1>ship later becomes Apocalypses after he confronts Kang and chases

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01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:40.239
<v Speaker 1>him away. The X Men make their way back to

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01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the lab, as Xavier explains that Logos only knows pieces

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01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:47.880
<v Speaker 1>about the mystery temple. When they reach the lab, though,

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01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:52.880
<v Speaker 1>when is there ambushed by the Stanstrmers and Ball, who

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01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:54.960
<v Speaker 1>found their work on the time machine and showed it

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01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:58.039
<v Speaker 1>to Nerve, causing him to lose his trust in Magnetos saying, oh,

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01:09:58.039 --> 01:09:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to betray me. You're trying to do this,

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01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:05.079
<v Speaker 1>and he beheads Logos and Magnio's realizes that he's he's

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01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:08.279
<v Speaker 1>screwed over. They're about to kill everyone, and then out

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01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:13.760
<v Speaker 1>of the minions, Bishop reveals himself and takes down everyone.

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01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 2>They are able to.

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01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:19.399
<v Speaker 1>Get the one up on Ner and Ball, but we

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01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:22.239
<v Speaker 1>see one of Lagos' eyes is blinking and sending a

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01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:26.359
<v Speaker 1>signal to Rama Tut. Bishop blasts Ner and he tosses

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01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:29.399
<v Speaker 1>each of the X Men to a device for them

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01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to return home. However, Rama Tut launches a blast from

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01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:35.479
<v Speaker 1>his temple at the mountain which the X Men where

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01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:39.640
<v Speaker 1>they're hiding, and he refers himself as the conqueror. In

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01:10:39.680 --> 01:10:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the process, Zaver tries to convince Magneto that their chance

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01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:46.319
<v Speaker 1>to redeem Apocalypse is gone and they need to return home.

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01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Nor emerges from the grubble, though, and draws their attention

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01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 1>before the blast from Rama Tut seemingly obliterates the mountain.

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01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Rama Tut laughs as the episode comes to a close

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01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:01.039
<v Speaker 1>with the words to be continued with that with that

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01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the apocalypsees. Oh, yeah, so it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cool. So we see the this thing's and it

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01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.680
<v Speaker 3>just blows this huge gaping hole and and that's how

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01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:19.039
<v Speaker 3>we end the episode. And like it said before, I'm

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01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.760
<v Speaker 3>excited to where we go next. These these three episodes

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01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:25.600
<v Speaker 3>really set up the rest of this season nicely. I'm

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01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.000
<v Speaker 3>glad that they did the three episodes to start.

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01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it gave us a I g I said, upon reflection,

1305
01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:35.800
<v Speaker 1>it lets to see where each one of the timelines

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01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:38.239
<v Speaker 1>is out of the sense of past, present, in future,

1307
01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:41.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it was rather insane. You know, Travis

1308
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and I had talked about on previous episodes of Marvel

1309
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Lines where looking at the idea of oh, we're going

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01:11:52.279 --> 01:11:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to get like this whole thing of like in in

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01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:58.920
<v Speaker 1>different timelines at this point. But as we kind of

1312
01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:03.439
<v Speaker 1>saw season, they don't spend a lot of time on

1313
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:07.279
<v Speaker 1>these kind of either story arcs or timelines necessarily because

1314
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:09.720
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to move it forward. So it is disappointing

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01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:13.479
<v Speaker 1>to see us not there in the in the future,

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01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.199
<v Speaker 1>in the past for as long there looks.

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01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we don't know if they've.

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01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Made it out of the past back to the present,

1319
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:21.600
<v Speaker 1>but one can assume that they are going to make

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01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it out. Either they just transport it out or we'll

1321
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:25.520
<v Speaker 1>find a way out of it very quickly in the

1322
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:28.760
<v Speaker 1>next episode. But I'm excited to see the next episode.

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01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:30.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, unfortunate won't be breaking it down with you

1324
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:33.199
<v Speaker 1>all next week. But you know, like a lot of

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01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:37.039
<v Speaker 1>these you know, they the reviewers were sent the first

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01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.199
<v Speaker 1>four episodes. Some of them were sent the full season,

1327
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:41.479
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them were sent the first four episodes,

1328
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and they did say that this fourth episode is going

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01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.039
<v Speaker 1>to be a very interesting one that you know, some

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01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.319
<v Speaker 1>people have seen the seasons is just saying, yeah, you're

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01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:51.600
<v Speaker 1>not going to get necessarily a Genocia moment, but you'll

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01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:54.680
<v Speaker 1>get a Denosha like moment coming soon.

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01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:57.760
<v Speaker 2>So so who knows I mean one of.

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01:12:57.760 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Those titles is very much at the end of the season,

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01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:02.000
<v Speaker 1>say like, oh, I think we know it might be

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01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:07.600
<v Speaker 1>coming there at that point. So but oh, bears Layer

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01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.479
<v Speaker 1>in the chat, say, noticed that Boat got some credit

1338
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:11.600
<v Speaker 1>for his work and the drama did affect it. Well,

1339
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.840
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get credit because of laws that are done

1340
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:18.479
<v Speaker 1>for for the writer's guild in shows.

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01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:23.840
<v Speaker 3>He's credited as a writer on episode three, Rise of

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01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Apocalypse Part one. I think he's credited as a producer

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01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:30.319
<v Speaker 3>on multiple episodes.

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01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so legally they have to do that. But yeah,

1345
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I caught that as well. But that's why you'll see

1346
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.720
<v Speaker 1>his name appearing on different things because of legal reasons.

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01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:44.079
<v Speaker 1>It's good they do have to acknowledge or else taking

1348
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.600
<v Speaker 1>he's already lost.

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01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:49.520
<v Speaker 3>They use his work, they use his storyline in it,

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01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:52.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, whether it be big or small. It's just

1351
01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:55.760
<v Speaker 3>like with music, where you will see fifteen people listed

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01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:58.039
<v Speaker 3>as a producer because one guy came in and he

1353
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:01.680
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, let's just turn this high had up

1354
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:04.119
<v Speaker 3>just a little bit, or let's turn this dramojia and

1355
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:06.560
<v Speaker 3>may now all of a sudden get a producer credit.

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01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Same thing applies you worked on it. You get credited

1357
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:12.960
<v Speaker 3>even if you're no longer with the company. Technically, remember

1358
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:15.439
<v Speaker 3>when you back Kickstarters, you're technically a producer. Have said thing,

1359
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:16.720
<v Speaker 3>you know? Yep?

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01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:21.319
<v Speaker 1>So all right, well, we will see what happens with

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01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 1>episode four when you and mister Hines break it down.

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01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.039
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna take our final ad break for the evening.

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<v Speaker 1>So listeners, use ads help keep the lights on the

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01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Geegulti mid Aliance Network. We don't get to choose what

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<v Speaker 1>played and if they repeat, but they help keep the

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<v Speaker 1>lights on the geegle To mid Alliance. So give you

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<v Speaker 1>a three count before they come on. Three two one,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back and we are back, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So throw up the Spidy signal.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a question right before we went live from

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01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a loyal listener at that point, why don't you tell

1373
01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:53.239
<v Speaker 1>us who it is and what they're asking?

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01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.600
<v Speaker 3>All right? From our friend Jim scroggs. If you had

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01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:00.520
<v Speaker 3>to guess how close to Brand New Day would you

1376
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:03.319
<v Speaker 3>think the Doomsday trailer gets released?

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01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, we kind of talked about this in episode three

1378
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:10.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred when it came down, and for a while they're

1379
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:14.279
<v Speaker 1>looking at the idea of you know, could they put

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01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 1>out the the doomsday trailer as a trailer for Spider

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01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Man Brand New Day like is before that? Or could

1382
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:26.560
<v Speaker 1>they go the No Way Home route and put the

1383
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:31.600
<v Speaker 1>end credit sequence as the doomsday trailer that that they

1384
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.399
<v Speaker 1>did in No Way Home for Multiverse of Madness.

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01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:36.239
<v Speaker 2>You know that I.

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01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Think that that that I think is very possible. I

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01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:43.479
<v Speaker 1>think that would be that would be the timing to

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01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:45.359
<v Speaker 1>do it. I think it would be right then and there.

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01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:48.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they you know, again, Comic conk

1390
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:51.520
<v Speaker 1>is San Diego. Comic Con happens the week before I believe,

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01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:57.520
<v Speaker 1>no excuse me, Brand New Day comes out, so they

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01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:01.119
<v Speaker 1>could do it at San Diego and put it out there,

1393
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:03.000
<v Speaker 1>which a lot of times they do the big trailers

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01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:05.039
<v Speaker 1>they'll put out the week of it comes out and

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01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you get to then see it on the big train

1396
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:08.840
<v Speaker 1>in the theater. So I'll either say it's gonna be

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01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:12.039
<v Speaker 1>at San Diego Comic Con released that week, or they're

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01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:14.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna hold it and then it's gonna come out when

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01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the trailer goes out as when the movie comes out.

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01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:22.119
<v Speaker 3>I think it will be private for for comic Con

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01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:25.520
<v Speaker 3>and then it will be attached to the post credits

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01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:26.399
<v Speaker 3>of Spider Man.

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01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or they could do a different trailer for San

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01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Diego Comic Con and then release something different for the public,

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01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:42.159
<v Speaker 1>So but all right, so we've got Factor fictions. I've

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01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:43.960
<v Speaker 1>got mine pulled up, but I've got to pull up

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01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:45.600
<v Speaker 1>last weeks.

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01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Give me a second with that.

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01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:53.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, I've got last week's put up so

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01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 3>I can read those. Okay, well you got yours, all right,

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01:16:56.479 --> 01:17:01.000
<v Speaker 3>So Factor Fiction number one, Bruce Banners, Risk Guntlet will

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<v Speaker 3>be the blueprint for the meet and callers in the MCU.

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01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:07.640
<v Speaker 3>That is seventy five percent fact, twenty five percent fiction.

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01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Number two, we will get hints of net Leeds, Hobgoblin Persona,

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01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:20.479
<v Speaker 3>and Spider Man brand New Day. That is fifty six

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01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:25.720
<v Speaker 3>percent on fiction and forty four percent on fact. So

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01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:26.520
<v Speaker 3>that that one.

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01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:28.720
<v Speaker 2>The people've been trying to make ned Leaves happen in

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01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:31.159
<v Speaker 2>this not happening.

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01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I am very much in the fiction on that one.

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01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:38.399
<v Speaker 3>And Factor Fiction number three, a member of the X

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01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Men roster will come out in costume at San Diego

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01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Comic Con Hall Ahed this year. Thirty six percent say

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01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.800
<v Speaker 3>fact and sixty four percent say fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know about that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, So for this week, for my factor

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01:17:55.880 --> 01:18:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Fictions number one, we will hear only one official announcement

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01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:04.880
<v Speaker 1>of a new Phase six movie beyond X Men, during

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01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>next year's Sandy O Comic Con. I do not think

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01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:12.159
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna hear of any new projects beyond X Men

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01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:16.439
<v Speaker 1>that we know is happening until next year's San Diego

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01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Comic Con. And I only think we're gonna get one

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01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:23.520
<v Speaker 1>thing because I really think they don't want to. They

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01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:25.880
<v Speaker 1>have to be careful with what they put into production

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01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:30.119
<v Speaker 1>and reveal because it might just reveal like, oh, who

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01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:32.199
<v Speaker 1>survives you know, secret Wars?

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01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:32.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we get one safe bet of a project.

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01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say, you know, a news face one Phase

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01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:43.199
<v Speaker 1>six movie. Is the only other thing beyond X Men

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01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:45.079
<v Speaker 1>that we get next year is Sandygo Comicon.

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<v Speaker 3>So this this is projects, not movies.

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01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:55.199
<v Speaker 2>No I said, I meant to say movie, So one

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01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.359
<v Speaker 2>face movie beyond.

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01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:00.880
<v Speaker 3>X Man because there's a huge, huge different because projects

1448
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:03.399
<v Speaker 3>opens up a lot of doors for Disney plus stuff.

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01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:06.520
<v Speaker 3>So movies, I'm gonna say fact, Okay.

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01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm on this one.

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01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:12.239
<v Speaker 3>It'd be hard not to spoil their future plans with

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01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Doomsday and Secret Wars unless they announce some stuff, unless

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01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:19.199
<v Speaker 3>they go the Black Widow route and do a prequel.

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01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna do that. But this

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01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:25.039
<v Speaker 1>one's tough for me. I you know, again, just because

1456
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:27.199
<v Speaker 1>we put it out there doesn't mean we all automatically.

1457
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Just because we write it as a factor of fiction,

1458
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that we think it is actually gonna happen.

1459
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:36.680
<v Speaker 3>See this one. I don't know.

1460
01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:41.960
<v Speaker 2>This one is just it's tough for me to say.

1461
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:43.720
<v Speaker 1>If I'm gonna say fact, it's not gonna be a

1462
01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:46.079
<v Speaker 1>very strong fact because I still go in back my

1463
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:46.720
<v Speaker 1>mind say.

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01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:49.079
<v Speaker 2>They play a very dangerous game.

1465
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:53.640
<v Speaker 1>If they say another project, and as give me another movie,

1466
01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:58.600
<v Speaker 1>they basically say that character survives if it's a known

1467
01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.039
<v Speaker 1>character that has been in the MC, that that character

1468
01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:03.239
<v Speaker 1>survives in that iteration.

1469
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:07.560
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna say fiction for this.

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01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they're just gonna go Secret Wars next year

1471
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:13.079
<v Speaker 1>and X Men, and those are the safe things because

1472
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:15.640
<v Speaker 1>they have already officially done it. It doesn't boy, it

1473
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:19.479
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hurt them anything. And then they kind of it'll

1474
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:21.319
<v Speaker 1>be a two for for them if they go to Sandy,

1475
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:23.079
<v Speaker 1>if they go to San Diego at all, which I

1476
01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:26.159
<v Speaker 1>think they are with Secret Wars, but they do Secret

1477
01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Wars and they do X Men, and that's it. That's

1478
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>all they need. They get people jazzed up. That's when

1479
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:33.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll do their big full cast reveal of X Men.

1480
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:37.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, they have nothing to lose. It doesn't reveal

1481
01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:40.600
<v Speaker 1>anything for Secret Wars. They knew they were gonna have

1482
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:43.479
<v Speaker 1>anx mcux Men. They've been very upfront about that. They've

1483
01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:47.680
<v Speaker 1>already got like possible casting and casting rumors and things

1484
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:49.680
<v Speaker 1>going back like that. So they've got the writer, they

1485
01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:52.760
<v Speaker 1>got the director, so that I think is more safe.

1486
01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:54.520
<v Speaker 1>But I and I think it's gonna I don't think

1487
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:56.359
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do anything beyond that, So I say fiction.

1488
01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:04.039
<v Speaker 1>So all right, Number two, we will see a new

1489
01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Sony Spider Man Universe movie within three years in fact,

1490
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and so I say it again, new Sony Spider Man

1491
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Universe movie. So anything within the Sony Spider Man universe

1492
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:20.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be a Miles movie. Does be a

1493
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man movie, but a new Sony Spider Man I

1494
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:25.800
<v Speaker 1>should say live action movie.

1495
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:27.399
<v Speaker 2>I'll add that live action.

1496
01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:32.479
<v Speaker 3>I am. I'm going to say it is going to

1497
01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:37.520
<v Speaker 3>be a fact on that that they're not losing that license.

1498
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:43.000
<v Speaker 3>So you know it, it's it's time to to go

1499
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:46.000
<v Speaker 3>ahead and and and bring out one of one of

1500
01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:46.760
<v Speaker 3>the villains.

1501
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's bring up let's bring up morebious. Keanu Reeves

1502
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:51.479
<v Speaker 2>is watching it on airplanes.

1503
01:21:53.439 --> 01:21:57.840
<v Speaker 3>You know it's it's gonna be Morban time again. Are

1504
01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:00.640
<v Speaker 3>the Shocker is gonna get his own movie years or

1505
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.560
<v Speaker 3>something like that. You know, it's it's gonna be some

1506
01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.399
<v Speaker 3>random thing that they're not gonna go the Spider Man route,

1507
01:22:06.399 --> 01:22:08.920
<v Speaker 3>but but they're going to pick something out of that,

1508
01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:12.600
<v Speaker 3>out of that lane, and we're gonna go from there.

1509
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:16.239
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I say it's gonna be a fact.

1510
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't like saying it's gonna be a fact, but yeah,

1511
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you bring out the points and saying they're not just

1512
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:22.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna let the license laps and do that.

1513
01:22:22.439 --> 01:22:25.439
<v Speaker 2>So all right, last one, And.

1514
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:29.119
<v Speaker 1>I said, I talked about this before when we look

1515
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:31.239
<v Speaker 1>broke down the trailer for a Brand New Day, But

1516
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>now I'm just putting out there as an official factor

1517
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of fiction. By the end of Spider Man Brand New Day,

1518
01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:40.640
<v Speaker 1>MJ will regain all her lost memories and remember who

1519
01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Peter Parker really is.

1520
01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Fact. I want it so bad, fact I I want

1521
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.520
<v Speaker 3>her to have the the flood of memories moment.

1522
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one, I will say is a fact. I

1523
01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:59.479
<v Speaker 1>think the Yeah, I think it makes it very and

1524
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>they say all the form new memories now because it's

1525
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>always going to be after them and.

1526
01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:04.439
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna I think it.

1527
01:23:04.439 --> 01:23:06.640
<v Speaker 1>It's fun for a movie. I think it's fun for

1528
01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a movie like that. I think it gets ridiculous after

1529
01:23:11.159 --> 01:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to go to continue on like that.

1530
01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1531
01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:15.439
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not saying they get back together.

1532
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that they at least had the flood

1533
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.039
<v Speaker 1>of memories at that point, and you know, they could

1534
01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>get back there. They could not get back together, but

1535
01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>they'll She'll get She'll get back your memories by the end.

1536
01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Of the movie.

1537
01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but all right, so all post those on

1538
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Sunday afternoons. Let your voices be heard with that, and

1539
01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I'll let us begin our new comic book club. The

1540
01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Amazing Spider Man the other part one from Friendly Neighborhood

1541
01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:44.319
<v Speaker 1>spider Man number one a new serie, a new comic

1542
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>series that was put out way back when. So David,

1543
01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:52.399
<v Speaker 1>this was your choice to start bringing in this, so so, yeah,

1544
01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:55.239
<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk about this first issue.

1545
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, and you know, just a reminder to our friends,

1546
01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:03.840
<v Speaker 3>like if you have Marvel Unlimited, which I think unless

1547
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:07.039
<v Speaker 3>you have the omnibus version, it's the best way to

1548
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 3>read it, because this series does jump. The storyline does

1549
01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:15.239
<v Speaker 3>jump between different series. So you have Friendly Neighborhood that

1550
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:17.520
<v Speaker 3>was going on, Marvel Knight, Spider Man that was going on,

1551
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Amazing Spider Man, you know, the Flagship that was going on.

1552
01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:25.319
<v Speaker 3>So we bounce between three different ongoing titles with this.

1553
01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:30.640
<v Speaker 3>But so we start off with Peter talking about a

1554
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:37.319
<v Speaker 3>dream that he had Morlan going through a more willing

1555
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:39.760
<v Speaker 3>body that he doesn't know who is his. Then he

1556
01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:45.199
<v Speaker 3>flashes to images of Craven and then flashes to images

1557
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:48.640
<v Speaker 3>of Uncle Ben and he's saying, you know, to everything,

1558
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:50.399
<v Speaker 3>there is a season and time to live and a

1559
01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:56.119
<v Speaker 3>time too, and then everything goes black except for you know,

1560
01:24:56.159 --> 01:25:00.199
<v Speaker 3>a pair of fuzzy dice that are just going And

1561
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:03.680
<v Speaker 3>we see that Peter is talking to MJ about this

1562
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:06.439
<v Speaker 3>and he's telling him, you know, how he feels and

1563
01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:08.960
<v Speaker 3>how he's like, I'm in a great place in my life.

1564
01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:12.159
<v Speaker 3>Everything is going super I should be on cloud nine.

1565
01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like the rug's gonna be pulled under me.

1566
01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:18.560
<v Speaker 3>And she's telling Peter to focus on the here and now.

1567
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:21.760
<v Speaker 3>And that's not just the focus on the You've got

1568
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:25.159
<v Speaker 3>some good stuff in your life, but the silhouettes and

1569
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:29.520
<v Speaker 3>everything allude to the fact that moment. Yes, he is

1570
01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:34.279
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be focused on his wife and what she

1571
01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:37.199
<v Speaker 3>is wanting in this moment, and he is thinking about

1572
01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:37.760
<v Speaker 3>life and.

1573
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Death and taxes instead. That's typical Parker, but we know

1574
01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the Parker. Look, he's not wrong to think that is

1575
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>being that way. But yeah, we get this new villain

1576
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Robin a bank and Peter goes after him and kind

1577
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>of handles him pretty well until he.

1578
01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Fires these bullets. And they're interesting magic bullets.

1579
01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, magic bullets that you know they lock on to you,

1580
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:08.159
<v Speaker 3>and you know once they are they will avoid any

1581
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:10.800
<v Speaker 3>other person. So doing the simple tricks of you know,

1582
01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:13.720
<v Speaker 3>jumping behind the person and trying to have the bullets

1583
01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:19.359
<v Speaker 3>hit them doesn't work. So as we see this guy Tracer,

1584
01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:24.239
<v Speaker 3>who is this new willing go back in the bank,

1585
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:28.600
<v Speaker 3>then we start to get flashbacks to Peter training with

1586
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Captain America per MJ and her asking Cap to help

1587
01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:37.039
<v Speaker 3>train him because he's been having these thoughts of death

1588
01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:40.359
<v Speaker 3>and everything else. And Cap is basically telling them like, look,

1589
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:44.359
<v Speaker 3>you need to learn certain skills. You can't trust your instincts,

1590
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:46.680
<v Speaker 3>and people are like, that's all I do is trust

1591
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:50.079
<v Speaker 3>my instincts. He's like, I'm afraid of training with you

1592
01:26:50.119 --> 01:26:52.239
<v Speaker 3>because you're gonna tell me that trust my instincts will

1593
01:26:52.239 --> 01:26:54.720
<v Speaker 3>get me killed, to which Cap is like, they will

1594
01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:57.600
<v Speaker 3>get you killed. They have gotten many people killed.

1595
01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:02.199
<v Speaker 1>So we kept back, well, well, that's it's interesting kind

1596
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of talking about that for a second. You know, I

1597
01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:07.239
<v Speaker 1>understand where CAP's coming from with that, but even as

1598
01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a soldier, I kind of call a little bit of

1599
01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>bs on that one for him because he also has

1600
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>trusted his instincts in the past. So for him to say, like,

1601
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>don't trust them, that's not I call baloney on that one,

1602
01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>because he's also trusted as instant and shouldiers are a

1603
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of times also when you have that gut feeling,

1604
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>it's not always one hundred percent, but sometimes it's going

1605
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>to be.

1606
01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1607
01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:37.800
<v Speaker 3>So we cut back to him trying to get away

1608
01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:40.279
<v Speaker 3>from this bullet and remembering some of the training that

1609
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Cap told him, and he stops and he decides to

1610
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:48.119
<v Speaker 3>trust his training and catch the bullets with both hands,

1611
01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:50.920
<v Speaker 3>and he turns to the crowd and he's like, yes,

1612
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:53.439
<v Speaker 3>this is my magic trick. As you'll see, the bullets

1613
01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:55.720
<v Speaker 3>are in my hand and opens up and that's.

1614
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Where Nolan got the idea.

1615
01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:03.239
<v Speaker 3>In his right hand, yes, there is definitely a bullet.

1616
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:06.159
<v Speaker 3>In his left hand there is a hole, and in

1617
01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>his left shoulder there is a hole. And he did

1618
01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:15.279
<v Speaker 3>not collect this. So he passes out on the street

1619
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:18.880
<v Speaker 3>but is able to get up and re fast forward

1620
01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:23.520
<v Speaker 3>to him meeting with a doctor who is there to

1621
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:29.119
<v Speaker 3>help the superhero community. So, you know, he's doctor talking

1622
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:33.279
<v Speaker 3>with Doctor Casillo, and you know, she's saying that she

1623
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:36.039
<v Speaker 3>is has them all patched up, but she's going to

1624
01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:40.399
<v Speaker 3>take some of his blood. And she inquires about his name.

1625
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:42.439
<v Speaker 3>She's like, what do I call you? And he's like, yeah,

1626
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:44.560
<v Speaker 3>you know what, too many people know my name already.

1627
01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Let's just stick to Spidey. They kind of have a

1628
01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:50.800
<v Speaker 3>little back and forth about how she is a doctor

1629
01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:53.640
<v Speaker 3>to the entire superhero community and so she has to

1630
01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:57.399
<v Speaker 3>have some anonymity herself. You know, that trust goes both

1631
01:28:57.439 --> 01:29:00.279
<v Speaker 3>ways she's putting her license on the line, and he

1632
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:03.239
<v Speaker 3>agrees to give her a sample of his blood for testing.

1633
01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:09.159
<v Speaker 1>So they go back to MJ and Peter in the apartment, saying,

1634
01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you know you need to rest, and he's like, nope, sorry,

1635
01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I got to go back out there.

1636
01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:13.479
<v Speaker 2>Got to find this tracer guy.

1637
01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:15.479
<v Speaker 1>Put a tracker on him so I know where he's

1638
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:18.079
<v Speaker 1>going to be at, and basically goes after this limo

1639
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:21.159
<v Speaker 1>only to be revealing the drivers of what are you

1640
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>doing here out of her mind and say I'm going

1641
01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:25.479
<v Speaker 1>to get this guy and it ends up not being Tracer,

1642
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>it ends up being Ja Joon and Jamison and says

1643
01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I already got.

1644
01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>My headline for there, You're a menace.

1645
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:34.199
<v Speaker 1>And sees the tracer on the limo, realizing he's been played.

1646
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:38.119
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, well, this was a day wasted at

1647
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:42.359
<v Speaker 1>that point, so heading back to his penthouse department at

1648
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Stark Tower, the doctor calls saying, hey, got your results.

1649
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:50.039
<v Speaker 1>It's she doesn't want to talk about.

1650
01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:50.479
<v Speaker 2>On the phone.

1651
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:54.039
<v Speaker 1>She tells Peter it's bad, very bad, and there looming

1652
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:58.159
<v Speaker 1>above him is Morland saying snake eyes, you lose, which

1653
01:29:58.199 --> 01:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>is kind of an interesting thing for him. To say

1654
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of like you could have said a whole bunch

1655
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of other things. It's kind of weird for Moreland to

1656
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>say that. I mean, again, it's a I get, it's

1657
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a it's it's a a dice reference at that point,

1658
01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:12.279
<v Speaker 1>snay guys is not a good thing when you're playing

1659
01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:14.239
<v Speaker 1>playing at the craps table.

1660
01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:16.159
<v Speaker 2>But weird for Moreland.

1661
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:20.199
<v Speaker 3>To say, yeah. So that that is how we end that.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, with with the ominous standing over him,

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01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:27.239
<v Speaker 3>we know that things are bad for Peter. Plus Morland

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01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:29.199
<v Speaker 3>is there who she's had this dream of. And then

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01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>we will continue next week with uh Marvel Nights, It's sorry,

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01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:39.439
<v Speaker 3>two weeks with Marvel Knight spider Man number nineteen, which

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01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:41.359
<v Speaker 3>is the continuation of the story. Like I said, we

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01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:45.319
<v Speaker 3>will jump around between the ongoing books.

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01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>At the time, which I found interesting.

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01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>If you the the the page after we get the

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01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Moreland reveal, you know, kind of goes over the twelve

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01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.479
<v Speaker 1>part series at that point. What I didn't what I'd

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01:30:56.479 --> 01:31:00.359
<v Speaker 1>forgotten was the artists of the book remained the same,

1674
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:05.399
<v Speaker 1>but the writers of each kind of three parts stay

1675
01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the same until the last three books. So that was

1676
01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of an interesting take. That the Peter

1677
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Day would write the first three parts. Reggie Hudluand would

1678
01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:18.079
<v Speaker 1>who was the writer of the Marvel Knights Spider Man,

1679
01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:21.399
<v Speaker 1>would write the next three parts, and then the other

1680
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:24.359
<v Speaker 1>three parts that seven, eight nine will be written by

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01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Jim Michael Strazinski, who was the writer for Amazing Spider Man.

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01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:31.119
<v Speaker 1>He would write Friendly Neighborhood, Marvel Knights, and Amazing, and

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01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:33.199
<v Speaker 1>then at the last three parts, each one of the

1684
01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:36.119
<v Speaker 1>writers would go back to their respective books. I thought

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01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:38.479
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of an interesting I haven't seen that

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01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:41.119
<v Speaker 1>usually when it comes to events like this.

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01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is also interesting that within the crossovers they

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01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:52.680
<v Speaker 3>kept the same artists, artists and everything, which again, you know,

1689
01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>coming from various different events and specials like that you do.

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01:31:57.279 --> 01:32:01.039
<v Speaker 3>It can sometimes be jarring when you jump between various

1691
01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:05.520
<v Speaker 3>books to have their different art styles be continued, and

1692
01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:08.800
<v Speaker 3>then you're going back and you're used to one hyper realistic,

1693
01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>then you get to something else. You know. I have

1694
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:15.000
<v Speaker 3>certain artists that I'm not a fan of, and like,

1695
01:32:15.079 --> 01:32:17.560
<v Speaker 3>if I see their work, it can be jarring if

1696
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:21.079
<v Speaker 3>I just jump in out of nowhere. So it was

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01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:22.399
<v Speaker 3>cool the way that they did that.

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01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, I'm looking forward to kind of continuing

1700
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this in two weeks. But yeah, so volume three two

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01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>in the books, longer episode with those three three episodes

1702
01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:38.119
<v Speaker 1>to go over, but you know, we know again we

1703
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:40.439
<v Speaker 1>love some good X Men ninety seven. This one definitely hit,

1704
01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>hit the ground run and hit a good home run

1705
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>for the opening of this so I'm very excited to

1706
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:48.399
<v Speaker 1>see where the series goes and excited to see mister

1707
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Hines and yourself break it down next week. So all right, Well,

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01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:57.239
<v Speaker 1>as always, you know, David, tell people how they can

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01:32:57.239 --> 01:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>follow you.

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01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:01.600
<v Speaker 3>You can follow me on All Souls at the Phantom.

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<v Speaker 3>as part of our wrestling show The Gimmick. We have

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01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:08.560
<v Speaker 3>a show coming up this Sunday which we will be

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01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>doing a review of Night of Champions and Aw's past show,

1715
01:33:13.880 --> 01:33:19.279
<v Speaker 3>so looking forward to that. That'll be Sunday at LAVE

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01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:23.479
<v Speaker 3>three pm Central time, so be on the lookout for that.

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01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:25.199
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you can follow me on All Socials at

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01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for joining us live in the chat,

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01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>thank you all for listening, and a stand the man

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01:34:16.319 --> 01:34:23.079
<v Speaker 1>would say, excelsior, true believers. All right, David postcredits discussion

1739
01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:27.479
<v Speaker 1>not a positive thing, but I think it's with the

1740
01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:29.439
<v Speaker 1>big news this week, I think it's I think it's

1741
01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>time for us to kind of talk about.

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01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:37.319
<v Speaker 3>It, all right, So we are marching towards the end

1743
01:34:37.720 --> 01:34:41.640
<v Speaker 3>of physical media. PlayStation has announced that starting in twenty

1744
01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:46.319
<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, they will no longer have physical games inside

1745
01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>of the games that you buy, it will be digital

1746
01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:55.640
<v Speaker 3>codes as opposed to it, Xbox is going to be

1747
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:58.920
<v Speaker 3>moving towards this same route. You know, there's been a

1748
01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:01.079
<v Speaker 3>lot of rumors at the next console will not have

1749
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:05.520
<v Speaker 3>a dish drive as well. With that being said, is this,

1750
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:08.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, is this the big doom and gloom that

1751
01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.600
<v Speaker 3>people are saying it is and the end of gaming

1752
01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>as we know it? Or is this more of a

1753
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:19.720
<v Speaker 3>you know what that we've been marching towards this new

1754
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:23.039
<v Speaker 3>standard of practice for a while. This is not surprising.

1755
01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as I said, and there's like, is it holy

1756
01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>hyperbole Batman or the drums or the drums getting louder?

1757
01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, this was And people say, how is this

1758
01:35:32.279 --> 01:35:35.720
<v Speaker 1>marvel ed? Well, remember the Wolverine game is coming from

1759
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:39.079
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation at that point, and so that's how we kind

1760
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of get around these interesting topics. But you know, I

1761
01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>am a physical media collector, not like in a lot

1762
01:35:46.680 --> 01:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>of different things. Like you see my shelves behind me.

1763
01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:51.479
<v Speaker 1>If you've seen me on other shows, you know I'm

1764
01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>a big omnibus collect edition collector, movies, four K movies,

1765
01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, steel books, I do that, video games at

1766
01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that point. But the other thing you know when this

1767
01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>came about with video games, especially with PlayStation maintenance in

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01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:10.039
<v Speaker 1>eighteen months, no longer doing disk drives. Their next console

1769
01:36:10.119 --> 01:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>is not gonna have a disk drive at that point,

1770
01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>even with I mean I don't there. I have a

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01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>huge also digital library of digital comics that I own.

1772
01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I have that it is not going to be licensed

1773
01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:28.159
<v Speaker 1>to me or anything like that. But I've also have

1774
01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've gotten to do. I I have a

1775
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Legion Legion go ass at that point, so I download

1776
01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>digital games because I've become more of a handheld gamer

1777
01:36:37.359 --> 01:36:39.079
<v Speaker 1>than a console gamer. I still have my consoles, but

1778
01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>my gaming habits have now kind of made me kind

1779
01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>of transition to gaming on handheld. You know, I have

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01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:47.479
<v Speaker 1>a switch to and that's been those two have been

1781
01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:51.439
<v Speaker 1>going back and forth on and I don't I purchased

1782
01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>digital games on that one, and so I know that yes,

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01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>at any moment, just because I bought it, it is

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01:36:57.720 --> 01:36:59.479
<v Speaker 1>a license at that point. Now I can say this

1785
01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>that Valve has been very good about games that come

1786
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>off their their marketplace, that even if you can't purchase

1787
01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a game anymore, they have not gone the route of no,

1788
01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:14.119
<v Speaker 1>you can't download anymore like I'll point out like Fortse Horizon,

1789
01:37:14.199 --> 01:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>for you can't get that anymore on the marketplace, on

1790
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Valve's marketplace, But if you still have it, like I do,

1791
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I can still download it and go to that in

1792
01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:26.199
<v Speaker 1>which I could do that in a number of books

1793
01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>from former Comixology that I have. But that's not always

1794
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>the case because it's a license. They're very clearly saying

1795
01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>like you don't own this, it is a license. They

1796
01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>can take it away, and so that that takes away

1797
01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>consumer choice, like right right here, you know, I'm holding

1798
01:37:41.359 --> 01:37:44.159
<v Speaker 1>up for those in video like this is the Switch

1799
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>version of Marvel versus cap On Finding Collection. This is

1800
01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>such a cool thing for me to get, and it

1801
01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>was a huge, you know, nostalgia moment, including like that's

1802
01:37:55.039 --> 01:37:58.039
<v Speaker 1>coming out later this year, the Marvel Maximum Collection coming

1803
01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>out from limited games and physical editions, and having this

1804
01:38:02.439 --> 01:38:05.479
<v Speaker 1>to say like, hey, this is mine, I have this,

1805
01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I can put this in it doesn't have to link

1806
01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:10.039
<v Speaker 1>up to anything, and I can still play it. It

1807
01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:13.119
<v Speaker 1>always worries me because especially when you get these games

1808
01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:16.800
<v Speaker 1>like this that are retro games, like you can't easily

1809
01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>get these anymore, and so I think physical media, I

1810
01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know physical media is going to totally go away.

1811
01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think right now when it comes to gaming,

1812
01:38:26.159 --> 01:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it is. I don't think it's hyperbole. I

1813
01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:32.760
<v Speaker 1>think we're now, as you said, like Xbox is now

1814
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:36.119
<v Speaker 1>their next console is going to be going to digital.

1815
01:38:36.199 --> 01:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Now they're starting to toy with this idea they started

1816
01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about, like their next thing they're getting ready to premiere.

1817
01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Is like diss to digital. Like you if whatever disc.

1818
01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>You going, you put it on digital and you kind

1819
01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:49.720
<v Speaker 1>of own it. But it's kind of weird. We don't

1820
01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>know all the belt, we don't know all the details,

1821
01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>full details on that. But I think when it comes

1822
01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:57.039
<v Speaker 1>to video games, when we see it with the switch

1823
01:38:57.079 --> 01:38:59.039
<v Speaker 1>to like you have a key car, you have a

1824
01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:01.760
<v Speaker 1>card now cardre but it's a key card that you

1825
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>access and download the game digitally, so you don't really

1826
01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>own it necessarily as much as you feel. So I

1827
01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:14.720
<v Speaker 1>think with video games it's not hyperbole. We've heard these

1828
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:18.199
<v Speaker 1>ideas coming. But I think when it comes to video games,

1829
01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is coming and it's it's going

1830
01:39:21.399 --> 01:39:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to be a new age.

1831
01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely agree that this is just this is

1832
01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:30.399
<v Speaker 3>where it's moving to. I am fifty to fifty on

1833
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:34.640
<v Speaker 3>digital versus physical. I like buying physical, especially with my kids.

1834
01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:37.319
<v Speaker 3>I like having that moment of I think it's just

1835
01:39:37.399 --> 01:39:40.159
<v Speaker 3>different on and I get it, they are still going

1836
01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:42.600
<v Speaker 3>to sell like a box with a digital code and

1837
01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:46.640
<v Speaker 3>things like that, but you're the one who started this, Yeah,

1838
01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:50.119
<v Speaker 3>But just having that feeling of, like on Christmas, them

1839
01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:53.560
<v Speaker 3>unwrapping the actual the box and popping that disc in

1840
01:39:53.640 --> 01:39:58.000
<v Speaker 3>and getting everything else. And that's a much better feeling

1841
01:39:58.079 --> 01:40:00.640
<v Speaker 3>than just you wake up and I tell them, hey,

1842
01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:03.079
<v Speaker 3>turn on the PlayStation and scroll and see what new

1843
01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:07.039
<v Speaker 3>games are on the top of the thing. Like it

1844
01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:10.880
<v Speaker 3>just something about having that is there now games that

1845
01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:13.760
<v Speaker 3>we know that we're gonna buy. Like my kid is

1846
01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:16.760
<v Speaker 3>a huge basketball fan, and every year I get him

1847
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:20.960
<v Speaker 3>the latest NBA two K game. I can't say much

1848
01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:24.239
<v Speaker 3>because I always get the latest NCAA football thing, so

1849
01:40:24.279 --> 01:40:26.359
<v Speaker 3>I can't say anything about the fact that it's basically

1850
01:40:26.359 --> 01:40:28.159
<v Speaker 3>the same game just repainted.

1851
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:30.439
<v Speaker 2>But no judgment that one.

1852
01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:34.439
<v Speaker 3>I do digital because we know this is a yearly thing.

1853
01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:37.239
<v Speaker 3>But like Christmas, he wanted Ghost of Yotai, and there's

1854
01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:39.960
<v Speaker 3>other games like they want. I will go get that.

1855
01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:43.399
<v Speaker 3>There's some games that are just no longer available digitally,

1856
01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:51.359
<v Speaker 3>Like I had a moment where there is this game

1857
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:57.119
<v Speaker 3>called jump Force that is a very anime centric game.

1858
01:40:58.079 --> 01:41:01.520
<v Speaker 3>It lasted on digital platform for about a year before

1859
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:04.880
<v Speaker 3>they pulled it, and so I had to search the

1860
01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:09.119
<v Speaker 3>high heavens to find it physically in order to play it.

1861
01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:13.800
<v Speaker 3>And luckily I have the Xbox version with the disk

1862
01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:17.680
<v Speaker 3>drives that I could but without having that it getting

1863
01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:20.960
<v Speaker 3>pulled from stores. Me having this this spark to want

1864
01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:22.399
<v Speaker 3>to play it, and my kid wanted to play it

1865
01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:24.720
<v Speaker 3>as well, like we would not have been able to

1866
01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:27.439
<v Speaker 3>do that without having that physical media.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think you know again I said I

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<v Speaker 1>collect physical media with movies like now, I mean room

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01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:36.079
<v Speaker 1>is room. I only have so much room in the

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01:41:36.079 --> 01:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>house at that point. But there are certain movies like

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01:41:39.039 --> 01:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I want the physical thing, not to say I physically

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01:41:41.319 --> 01:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>own it, but because the movie means something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, when push comes to shove, if it's convenient

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01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:48.319
<v Speaker 1>to watch on streaming, I'll watch it on streaming. But

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01:41:48.359 --> 01:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I know the quality is not going to be there.

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01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>But if I want the quality, I can pop that

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01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:54.399
<v Speaker 1>four K disk in a black panther that I have

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01:41:54.520 --> 01:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>from Steel Book and know that I have the four

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01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:00.119
<v Speaker 1>kh you know, looking at my four KTV to streaming.

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<v Speaker 2>It just it'll never be that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like no matter unless you have the top

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01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:05.920
<v Speaker 1>tier kind of stuff, which I'm not going to be

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01:42:05.920 --> 01:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>paying for necessarily because it's again money is money. But

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01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>even with book my omnibuses, I can't get every omnibus

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01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>known demand I would great.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a whole digital collection of some of this,

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01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>including backups of these that I feel that I personally

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01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:27.479
<v Speaker 1>own to have of series like I buy what I

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01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>have a personal collection to or buy like a series

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01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that I love and will read. But there are some

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01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>things that's saying, you know what, I just I want

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01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to pay a little bit cheaper, but I want to digitally,

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01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:38.800
<v Speaker 1>but I own it at that point I had, you know,

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01:42:38.920 --> 01:42:44.439
<v Speaker 1>I go through different retailers to get that, but I

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01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>own that and so I get to preserve it in

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01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that sense digitally. But that's not how a lot of

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01:42:48.960 --> 01:42:51.800
<v Speaker 1>digital platforms work. Like I we have Marvel LIMB with

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01:42:51.800 --> 01:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>both of us, we both I mean I I don't

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01:42:53.800 --> 01:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>know if you have I have DC Universe Infinite and

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01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:01.479
<v Speaker 1>but again that's streaming site in a different way, just

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01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:05.720
<v Speaker 1>because they don't have everything there. There are certain things

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01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that haven't been digitized yet for one reason or another.

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01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Marvel puts their omnies and collect editions into digital formats,

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01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:17.199
<v Speaker 1>so you can do it. DC doesn't yet. Most DC

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01:43:17.399 --> 01:43:20.399
<v Speaker 1>does is their oversized formats and their trades. They haven't

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01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:23.039
<v Speaker 1>gone through out of omnibuses digitally.

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01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Marvel has.

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01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think books are going to be

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01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>around for a much longer. But I think again, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is video games. I think the time

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01:43:32.279 --> 01:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and again it's a it's a profit margin for them.

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01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:36.720
<v Speaker 1>It is cutting into their profits whether they like it

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01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>or not. This is the money making thing for them,

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01:43:39.079 --> 01:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and they do not want to spend the money anymore

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01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>and cut into their profits. So it's a sad time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not consumer friendly and it is taking away

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01:43:50.479 --> 01:43:54.119
<v Speaker 1>consumer choice and I don't like it. I understand from

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01:43:54.159 --> 01:43:56.439
<v Speaker 1>a business perspective why they're doing it, but yeah, this

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01:43:56.520 --> 01:43:59.159
<v Speaker 1>is this was a kill shot. This was the time

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01:43:59.159 --> 01:44:03.119
<v Speaker 1>of physical media is for video games. I think the

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01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>time is. The time is getting ready to end, and

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01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:09.039
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a very different gaming forecast for people,

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01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:12.720
<v Speaker 1>especially with consoles and handhelds that are gonna be already

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01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>being pricing people out, you know, so definitely, so not.

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<v Speaker 2>A positive topic.

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01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:22.319
<v Speaker 3>And it's just it's it's the new wave, so and

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01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:24.880
<v Speaker 3>there's there's nothing that's gonna change it. They're going to

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01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:29.359
<v Speaker 3>save money on production and distribution and the it's their

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01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:31.760
<v Speaker 3>bottom line is going to go up. It's not we're

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01:44:31.800 --> 01:44:34.199
<v Speaker 3>not going to save one any games. But this is

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<v Speaker 3>from a business standpoint, it's just better for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But all right, not a positive topic, but I figured

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of discussion that can tackles a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different avenues. But you know, as we said, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Hines will be joining David next week for episode four

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<v Speaker 1>of x N ninety seven season two, So enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 2>I will see you all in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You all have a great weekend. Happy Fourth of July

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01:44:56.000 --> 01:44:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to all those that celebrate, and we'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye bye, Siah.
