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play a guy from my graveyard and then sacrifice it
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Speaker 1: Before we get into the arc, I actually have something
I want to to ask you about what I know
and I played me on the spot. Now you're gonna
get this right away, and people in the comments are
probably because I think this is something that gets people
fired up because you are a dragon ball Z fan.
You know lots of dragon ball z stuff.
Speaker 2: I like dragon Balls.
Speaker 1: The other day, I was I just I was just
rolling around in the internet, and I'm not I'm not
the biggest dragon ball Z fan, but I do enjoy it.
And I know all the.
Speaker 2: Characters are still got a big ball I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: That, M correct. And we got into a Vegeta versus
Goku thing and I remember maybe it was last year,
it was recently ish where you were talking about how
there's this arc where Vegeta finally beats Goku in a
fight and it's this huge it was this huge deal.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that wasn't me talking about that. It was
me like busting somebody's balls for spoiling it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, there we go. But it finally happened, and
I happened across a couple of people talking about it.
And again, in my memory, this account is correct, where
Vegeta always beats Goku, like when they first showed up
up when he was a new Mechian guy. He beat
the fucking shit out of Goku. He killed him, He
beat him to death.
Speaker 2: Goku does get beat up lots.
Speaker 1: Like he beat him to death, Like he won the
fight the first fight he won, and then there was
another one where he had the M on his head
that was from Boo right, beat him again margin Vegeta,
Like he beats him all the time, So why was
it such a big deal.
Speaker 2: One of my one of my actual favorite Vegeta monologues
was from that fight.
Speaker 1: Where he's like, fuck you cock at and he punches
him in the face.
Speaker 2: Yeah mostly yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think, is there is that right?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Was there a time where.
Speaker 2: The overarching thing about the fights is like Goku has
always been the hero and Vegeta. Vegeta and Goku both
both main characters, Vegeta sort of anti hero and over
the course of the show the underdog. And again this
this happened to Dragon Ball Super. I think I haven't
seen it because Super not my favorite. But yeah, I guess,
I guess Vegeta one. I guess. Let us know in
the comments and in what context did he win? Did
he win something? Was it part of a tournament, was
it a sparring match? Did he gloat? Or was it
did he did he Vegeta the situation or or was
it just like finally he gets this sense of like
conclusion and it makes us as the viewers, feel good.
I don't know, but that's what I hope, because I'm
a big time Vegeta fan. I think his life is
way harder because he's got the not only the actual
pressure of being the prince and slash king of the Sands,
but actually the self imposed pressure because there's there's there's
no more, there's no more saying planet to rule. Yeah,
and still he still his holds onto that responsibility.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's him, and it's Goku. We're basically the the
whole race, except for like Goku's kids, and I guess
his kids all.
Speaker 2: And people from different dimensions that are also sayings yeah
but fuck them yeah yeah, And that's why I don't like,
say super.
Speaker 1: And all these kids are like super strong too, and
Vegeta's gonna lot of pressure to keep up. It's an
old man now and he's got to like compete with
a kid with a sword. And they they only get
so they.
Speaker 2: Only get so old. That's why they never go gray, right,
that's they only get so old. That's part of the lore.
That's how they can keep the show going behind the curtain. Yeah, ah, man,
I don't know. I think it's I think it's cool.
I think every dog deserves his day.
Speaker 1: But like he had his, he beat him to death.
He wasn't even wearing pants. Can you imagine whooping somebody's
ass to death and you're not even wearing pants because
Vegeta knows how that feels because he did it the Goku.
I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm missing something.
But if you know better than Brando or this internet guy,
you should tell me in the comments below. If that's
the thing, you could be some other internet guy. Yeah,
you could be another Internet guy that tells me a thing.
There it is, tell me now the arc of evolution
where we look back, Yes, at the year twenty nineteen,
the year before Universes Beyond ruined magic for everyone forever. Yes,
by putting in these high powered power crept super duper
versions of everything that we love, which is magic, which
bullshit exactly and just totally took over the game. So
we're gona look at the top ten commanders in each
color pairing slash mono color from the year twenty nineteen,
before Universes Beyond was a thing, and we're going to
compare them to the top ten list of today as
of this recording, the top ten commanders in each thing,
and see how much it's changed, how much ubiquity in
Universes Beyond there still is, and how many mainstays commanders
actually still exist on the lists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and other things we're definitely keeping in mind are
things like trends then versus now.
Speaker 1: That's the most exciting part of the art.
Speaker 2: I think changes then versus now. How much do commanders
drop out of favor or like last week, how much
do they go up in favor as as creature types
become more supportive. This has been pretty educational, and I
you know, I'm a big, big time like magic history guy,
and I like statistics and trends and all that stuff.
So this has actually been really cool, and I hope
in a color combination that I really like we see
some really interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: I hope we do too, because I'm again I was
kind of pessimistic yesterday. I'm not gonna lie yep yesterday. Yes,
you were thinking about Commander cookout yesterday, I was yesterdek.
You mean just thinking about how like, oh great, we're
gonna talk about twenty fucking order like aristocrats decks.
Speaker 2: We might, but you thought about that with like Celesnia,
twenty enchanter stacks and I only saw.
Speaker 1: One, well, we saw one, thought about the one. It's
the only one that exists still.
Speaker 2: Twenty stas commanders. When we looked at Azorious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we were pleasantly surprised. Man will be pleasantly
surprised again. Who knows who can say?
Speaker 2: Who can say?
Speaker 1: The list can say? And we are gonna look at
it here in a minute.
Speaker 2: We're gonna start with my favorite game. Okay, Brando's blind
interpretation of the guild symbol.
Speaker 1: Yes, drawn in MS paint with a mouse from memory,
without looking at a at a guide.
Speaker 2: At least you're right handed, that's true. Then that looks
like a spiky white bleached if you will, because that's
a term. Butthole y, I.
Speaker 1: Kind of does ah, there's no. Yeah, there's no getting
away from that. That does kind of look like a
bee hole.
Speaker 2: Hey, at least the center isn't black.
Speaker 1: Well wait, and you know I usually do it when
I reverse the colors.
Speaker 2: Hey, oh no, yeah, it's gonna be gaped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, let's now that we all have something
to look forward to. Let's just see number tenumber ten
of them, and then that end looks a lot better though. Hey,
like I got to get in right, that's good.
Speaker 2: In your H also looks like an N.
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of does.
Speaker 2: But you know, first fucking time right in an H.
Speaker 1: No, But I was focused more on the end, and
you got to get through the T, the H, and
the E to get to the end.
Speaker 2: You were making the play before you caught the ball.
Speaker 1: There, Yes, very much, that's exactly what I was doing. Yeah,
I was already scoring the touchdown.
Speaker 2: Quarterback, you were thinking about making the out. That's before
you fucking caught the H. That's right, okay, Number ten
of then number ten commander of twenty nineteen nor Zo
da sells the return. This guy's even good, you know what.
This guy's good. Okay, So this is yeah, this is
a zombie soldier in black and white. Sure that all matters. Yeah,
that all matters. He's a two to two for oars
off and one. Whenever you cast an enchantment spell, you
get an experience counter. Oh there's lots of words there
that fucking matter. Yeah, experienced counters cast and enchantment.
Speaker 1: What a mistake those were?
Speaker 2: Anyway, Black white one put a white and Black spirit
enchantment creature token onto the battlefield. This creature power toughness,
each equal to the number of experienced counters you have.
Speaker 1: So this is essentially oblivion ring the deck because you
don't really need to play dudes. You just play old
rings and then you can make dudes with daxos that
are giants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gets better over time, doesn't it. Yeah, because oblivion rings.
Now it's like exile this land and it's an oblivion
ring for one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like now you're chained to the rocks. Now
you're oh, I guess change the rocks so to a mountain.
Speaker 2: But whatever. Also, my enchantment creatures that are enchantments and
creatures I can I can get them back with anime
dead and Dance to the Dead and stuff. Yes, and
those are fucking enchantments. Yo. Yeah, yeah, I can get
back my well base anything because I'm playing black and white.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's coming back all the time.
Speaker 2: And I'll just play all the best enchantments. Oh so
ours is the Enchantress color. Hey there we go.
Speaker 1: There we figured it out. The world has changed.
Speaker 2: While we were expecting to see more stuff like this
for Celesnia, we sure were.
Speaker 1: But again we have to remember that the Enchantment entrancious
commander from Celesnia that like, they're if you're gonna do Enchantress,
you might as well play whatever it mays, Yeah, like
why are you not playing her? There's no reason not
to play her.
Speaker 2: You know what, I wouldn't mind this deck. I think
this deck allows me to play a lot of the
cards that I like, enchantments that affect the game in
some immediate way. Sure not do nothing wait till my
next turn enchantment, right, or a do nothing until I
cast something enchantment. Sure this is remove your guy, get
an experience counter. Yeah right, so I've already affected the game,
and later on I can just well a good twelve
MANA make four guys, giant guys, they're all eight eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: You got that death mask on too.
Speaker 1: Just pretty cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool, pretty cool. Okay number nine nine nine
is what I a a eternal pilgrim?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: No, no, this is? This is okay a couple things. Okay,
this is a two drop commander. Okay, that's the thing.
Or is off for two three court cleric with death
touch you go one sacrifice another creatures a sack outlet
in the zone. That's the second. That's pretty Yeah, you
gain life.
Speaker 1: It's a life gain outlet in the zone equal to
the sacrifice creature's toughness.
Speaker 2: Sure, so toughness matters. That's another thing. That's like four boxes.
It's checked already, right, life gain sack outlet two manna
toughness matter also arzovin one sacrifice another creature, Oh, sack
outlet in the zone exile, target, non laand permanent.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's pretty good. Only if you have ten or
more life than your starting life total, which you're playing Aristocrats,
so you will.
Speaker 2: It's a fucking ten in the zone two or sorry,
it's vindicate in the zone. So it's also removal five
manner remove anything. Yeah, just because I've gained life. This
card's good. Like every fucking thing that it does is good.
Speaker 1: And it's a good blocker too, Yeah yeah blocks all Yeah, fuck,
that's good. Yeah, why do you not hire? Maybe she
will be well no, I mean in here like what
back then? Like were there a ton of aristocrats commanders
back then? Because this is a pretty fucking good one.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, I don't know of Note it does have a.
Speaker 1: Date stamp, yes, back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Which very definitely was a trend that we noticed because
Watsy knows which cards we're gonna play. M hm, that's
kind of a cool trend that Watson knows what we're
gonna play.
Speaker 1: I we were talking about this at d H and
M last night. I miss those date stamps. We talked
about it did in Cruel Remember we're like, yeah, my
ONM math is date stamped, so I know the exact date. Yeah,
dates that that deck came into being, right.
Speaker 2: Date stamps now are just say the year.
Speaker 1: They don't say anything anymore. They don't even do them
done forever.
Speaker 2: Oh when did they stop doing them? I have date stamped,
I have dates stamped Lord of the Rings cards from twenty.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to say either starting this
year or very like recently it was like, so when
you buy your what are they your collect your collector pack,
your starter pack? Remember the fuck the thing is the
pre release kit that you get. Yeah, there's a promo
in it that would normally be date stamped. Now there's
just a foil rare in it. Oh there's nothing on it.
There's no year, there's no I worklanes walkers, nothing, dude.
Speaker 2: I worked freaking hard on Magic No sorry, uh Command
Fest Edmonton, June of twenty twenty three to get the
pre release promo date stamped. Birthday Celebration four card panorama.
It was Wizard's Rockets, Gandalf, Friend of the Shire, Delighted
Halfling and the last one. Sure, the fourth one whatever,
Delighted Halfling was the main one. Yeah, that's the one,
but it was it was Bilbo Birthday celebrate maybe.
Speaker 1: Bilbo Birthday, buttole, I don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever it was. My panorama of that one is
all date stamped.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: It's a good piece of the collection, right, that's neat.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool. And they don't have them any more. That sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, fuck, you know it doesn't suck.
Speaker 1: What doesn't suck?
Speaker 2: I the Eternal pilgrim.
Speaker 1: You're right, she good, yes, and it's it's an Aristocrats
commander and again that's fine and it's good and it's
utility and it's fine, and we'll see Number eight.
Speaker 2: I would play for the record, number ten and number nine. Okay,
let's check out.
Speaker 1: Number eight would play Athris God. Actually I did play
this yesterday as we are recording. Yeah, I was playing
my ratidrabbic deck.
Speaker 2: Well give it a read.
Speaker 1: Rated rabbit. Athrios, God of Passage is a five to
four for three god. Indestructible is not a dude unless
you have seven black and or white pips among things
you control. Whenever another creature you control eats shit, it
goes back to your hand unless an opponent pays three life.
It's this target opponent, so I get to pick an opponent.
Speaker 2: Hey, unless target opponent. Yeah, oh yeah that's yeah. That's
why if you go infinite with this, when you just
target the same guy, yeah every time and either pays
or he doesn't pay, you beat him with infinite or
you beat him with life loss.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah. This card indestructible five to four for three.
Speaker 1: What real good in rat a drabbit because it always
does three, yeah, because nobody wants my shit to go
back to my hand because all already have one.
Speaker 2: I think that this card is so popular because, uh,
shadow born apostles exist, right, Like, I think you sacrifice
your five shadow born shadow born apostles or your six
shadow borns, yeah, to get your demon, and it's like
take eighteen or I'm getting these back. Yeah, oh fuck.
Speaker 1: Goddamn right, And.
Speaker 2: If it's turned five or six, it's like, well, I
guess I'll just go black black black, black black black,
pay them, play them all again, do it again, and
sacrifice them all again. Take eighteen or I'll get all
these back.
Speaker 1: Like I think that's the deck, right that is, Yes,
that is that's probably the deck that we're playing right here,
would be my guest, because this is a great ninety
nine card.
Speaker 2: Or it's an Aristocrat because you get all the guys
that just say sacrifice a guy on them, You get
your to reuse your back that they killed in response
to you starting to sacrifice your tokens, or you get.
Speaker 1: Any one drop that you've sacked your Farrexian altar to.
Oh yeah, so they either fucking lose or they take three,
and then you get it back anyway and they lose. Right,
It's one of those things.
Speaker 2: I bet your grave crawlers in this guy's deck. I'm
how many how many ores off decks on this list?
Can we play grave crawler in? Yes, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's see number or step.
Speaker 2: This guy's cool would play good picture?
Speaker 1: I do play this one, actually is. Although I don't
play this picture, I use the I have the secret
Remember the time I ordered those secret layers by accident
and it took a year for them to get to
my house. Yes, fuck, and they gave me a free
uh thiros collector or booster or my long wait you
know what my big rear in? It was full art
foil fast as oracle Oracle. That's good, isn't it. Yeah,
that's really good oracle which one?
Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's a fucking that's the one that you
win the game with the movie. Yes, I was thinking
it's a white card. I was like, is that a
soul sister? No?
Speaker 1: No, it's like Assa's oracle. It's pretty cool. It's there's
a video on the YouTube channel where you can you
can see that happen.
Speaker 2: Oh very good. Well, neat number seven h Krav and
Kraf the Redeemed.
Speaker 1: I think Krav and it is both. It's Krav and
uh Regna.
Speaker 2: If I hit forward, is it gonna go to Regna? Yes?
Oh thank god.
Speaker 1: Yes. So these guys are their partner. They look mono
colored if you're watching on YouTube, which should be. So
the black creature and a white creature that have partner.
This is from battle This is.
Speaker 2: From Battle O G Battle Bond Yeah, yeah, which I
did take down the pre release with FuG Off. We won.
We went three and O didn't lose. Want some packs. Okay,
so this is a three three for five. This is
Krav and he partners with Regna. So when you play this,
you may.
Speaker 1: You can search your library for the other one, put
it into your hand and then shuffle, or you can.
Speaker 2: Talk us a battlefield target player may put Regna into
their hand from their library. Yes, okay, so this is
a three to three for five. You go black, sacrifice
x creatures. Oh, target player draws X cards and gains
also put x plus one counters on Krav.
Speaker 3: Dang.
Speaker 2: So if I sacrifice one guy, draw card, gain a life,
get a plus one. If I sacrifice ten guys yep,
draw one draw ten game ten. Yeah, uh it.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. If you have ten guys.
Speaker 2: I fucking love ten guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten guys at once, sack them, fuck them ten sacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate I love ten sacks and I hate
ten guys and fuck them.
Speaker 3: Yeah cool, okay, reg Now, let's se what Regna does
very important that you don't have to do one guy
at a time, though you could, but you don't have to.
Speaker 1: If you only got one black man, you're like, oh, oh,
my guys are gonna die.
Speaker 2: Hate them. Hey, one sack ten.
Speaker 1: Target player may put that into so is the is
the shuffle of may as well?
Speaker 2: When this creature enters the battlefield, target player may put
reg Yes, yes, because battle Bond is two headed giant.
It was one v one Yeah, so I could have
Krav in my deck and you could have Regna in
your deck.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, But what if let's say we're playing Command
absolutely and I target you. Yes, you have to shuffle, yes,
you have.
Speaker 2: Just we talked about this on Commander Cookout like years ago.
Speaker 1: Well let's do it again. So let's say you have
a scroll rack and you just like, yeah, I've set
everything up so good. Yes, oooh I've put my sences
dividing top on top.
Speaker 2: I'm so smart.
Speaker 1: And then I go, hey, I want to put that
regna into play, and then you have to shuffle.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I don't got a regna.
Speaker 1: Well sucks to be U asshole like fail to find Yes,
absolutely and shop chuffle. Okay, I like that, yep.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Or if randomly I just know you have a
regna in your deck because we play together, right, yeah,
I'm just like, if.
Speaker 1: We can go find your regna, that would be pretty funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be funny.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine targeting somebody and they actually just have
it and you didn't know about it and they got thanks,
But yes, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2: Also, it should be worth noting black sac x creatures
target player draws X. So if I've got like a
hundred guys, because because why not, because I'm playing shrewp
as five dicks and and you steal my shop as
five dicks because you're playing yeah, and you've got a
krav in your deck and you're like, oh, I guess
I'll just sacrifice a hundred guys. You draw a hundred cards.
Speaker 1: That's mill baby finds the fucking mill strategy, gain a
hundred life, draw hundred cards, fucking buy see the.
Speaker 2: Coachman, shit, yeah, let's see it.
Speaker 1: The other one man who cares like that's only her
playing black man crave. That's only half the fucking deck man.
Speaker 2: Okay. Ragna the Redeemed Redeemer is an angel four four
for six. She's not as good already partners with Krav.
Sure cool shuffle effect flying at the beginning of each
end step. If your team that's us, right, theoretically gained
life this turn, create two one one white Warrior creature tokens.
She's fine.
Speaker 1: She's fine, she works very good with Krav.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is make sure that you
gained life. Yes, and if you're playing commander, because Ragdar
and Krav are your commanders, your team is you yes, me, myself.
Speaker 1: And I correct. And you're playing Aristocrats. So you're going
to gain life because that's what the deck does.
Speaker 2: Or you're just sacrificing some fucking guy.
Speaker 1: Now you sacrifice some asshole guy. Yeah for actually and
Rager he did his job. Now you're going to gain.
Speaker 2: Life and get two d Yes. I like this.
Speaker 1: That's three a's three aristocrats deck for the record. That's
three Aristocrats not it is not one was a fucking
Apostles deck. Shut up.
Speaker 2: Number six. Okay, that was a lot of fun. Actually
there she is a.
Speaker 1: Lend of the dust. Right, I'm gonna read it. Then
you tell everybody why.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get rock hard while you read this.
Speaker 1: It's a one one lifelink vampire night for four. Whenever
another creature reads shit, it gets a plus one plus
one counter. Whenever she eats shit, you get x one
to one white vampire creature tokens with fucking lifelink where
X was how big she was? Yeah, you know, my
favorite thing is a player.
Speaker 2: She got zero plus ones on her. Somebody immediately kills her.
I'm like, I'll get a vampire. Yeah, and they go, wait,
what you still have a blocker. Yeah, it's equal to
Alenda's power, not her plus ones. They're like, oh fuck,
I thought I was gonna get you. She has life
link YEP, that's cool, of course does she's one for
four like that good?
Speaker 1: That frilly collar is shitty, and we're also playing an
Aristocrats deck, so like, fuck, everything's gonna die all the time.
Speaker 2: This is pretty aristocratic, but you know what it doesn't
have to be, doesn't have to be. I lean into
both aristocrats and tokens. I have spirit tokens I have
when it dies to create tokens. I have some servible bullshit.
And generally in games of Commander things die, I have
lots of removal spells. Yeah, I'll just kill stuff, and
I'm not really scared to trade, like block and trade.
Maybe I'll get a die trigger like on my guy.
Maybe it was an ETB. I've already taken advantage of
the card. Now I get some virtual life gain because
I block to trade. When I trade, two guys die
and then it gets too bigger. And do you do
your wrath sooner rather than late?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're just gonna rebuild your whole freakin army.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and if she got twenty counters on her,
you want to wrath, then I'll get twenty guys, So
you wrath sooner, and then you lose value because you know,
instead of like a ten or twelve creature wrath, you
get you know, the three or four creature wrath, and
a Lenda is one of them, and I you still
get I still get four to five guys. Yeah, it's
just got a lot of staying power and a lot
of resiliency is the word that you use with the
game or with with with the lenda lots where it's yeah,
it's like, man, how do I I don't have enough
cards to compete with? How many one ones you get?
Speaker 1: Did eventually? And of course you're playing it in black
and white and they have life link and you're saying, well,
you know, eventually she's gonna cost one hundred. No, she
doesn't because you're playing black and white. So you ryan
puts her to the bin every time, just reanimated, because
there's so many ways of doing that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put her to the bin. You put her to
the bin with fuck it, you know what. Actually, the
other way to do it too is the not dead
yet style cards. If she would die, she dies and
then comes back where she dies, so you get the tokens.
Then she comes back and you get her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've been playing this since before commanders die
triggers happened when they died. Oh and she only got better, right,
like the rule change made her and omnaf better.
Speaker 2: It used to be a replacement effect. If it died,
you would put it into the command zone. Now it
works like I was telling Rebecca the other day when
we were talking about some legal proceedings I'm going through
at work. It works the way you want, yes, where
you get to have your cake, she dies and you
get to eat it too, make vampires get vampires, exile
her back into the command zone. So I don't even
need to put her into the graveyard if I don't
have a reanimation spell in my hand. But I have
six men, I'm like, okay, I'll just play her again. Yeah,
fucking sack out. Let's sack all my own guys to
aristocrat you. Then she's a ten ten again. Swift foot boots.
Speaker 1: Die yeah, right, like die sacker to get ten blockers.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh this card is so I would say, very diverse,
Obtuse there's a lot of different things to do, like
I said, tokens or aristocrats like thing, and.
Speaker 1: It's not a difficult build around. And I'm not saying,
oh the deck is so easy. It's like it's one
of those decks where like, yeah, you don't need to
really invest super a lot in like a theme or
a thing that it's asking for you to do, which
just kind of does what the colors want to do
and gives you this really really powerful piece in the commands.
Speaker 2: You know what you could do, like Alenda could be
like the Bonnie Blue of Magic where it's like Alnda
and like twenty dudes and as long as those dudes
are finishing, she gets more better. Yeah, and like that's it.
I'm just using it for the colors.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: What is that number six? Yeah date stamp. By the way,
it's like they knew that she was good. Yeah. Number five.
Speaker 1: Oh, Karlov the ghost count. You plead this guy too, Yeah,
this guy's this card is in Why isn't Why do
you see this never again? Like, well you never see
this guy anymore.
Speaker 2: Check that creature type advisor. He's a two to two
for two Huku for two Spirit advisor. Whenever you gain
life because ars of.
Speaker 1: Bullshit, why would you do that?
Speaker 2: In ars off, Whenever you gain life, put two plus
one counters on them.
Speaker 1: So if you gain one life from say a soul sister,
two counters. What if I had two soul sisters in play
and then you would get four counters?
Speaker 2: Fuck?
Speaker 1: He's a six sixth yep for two when when when
he comes into play, he's a six six because you
have two soul sisters in play.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, that fucking
Also there's more. There's another paragraphic text, of course, there
is you pay white black, remove six plus ones from him.
We've demonstrated that this is not a big ask. Yes,
exiled target creature Jesus. So like if he's a fucking
twenty seven to twenty seven and.
Speaker 1: Which isn't as a ob scene as you would think.
Speaker 2: And you have a blocker, no, I just remove counters,
exile your blocker and kill you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, frick, he's really good.
Speaker 2: This guy. This guy slaps.
Speaker 1: This guy claps and slaps maybe cheeks and faces, which
that's the lip, cheeks and buttles, slaps lips off, buttles
in the dirty cheeks and that's on your face. And uh,
claps and slaps baby, both cheeks. I guess you could
say cheeks. We're gonna shortcut. That's his cheeks and cheeks. Yeah,
claps and slaps. You pick which one you want first.
But I think that this one might have fallen out
of favor, maybe because it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Linear. Yes, it's very I like the term acute. Everybody
knows what we're doing and we're pinpointing our strategy very
much in this direction, and we're trying to gain life.
We're trying to hit you for big manna I damage. No,
oh yeah, big damage. I don't know if I've seen
very many carlawv decks, if any who who really lean
into the removing six counters.
Speaker 1: That's a that's just a handy thing.
Speaker 2: That that's a bonus that detracts, that detracts, though from
your strategy of trying to gain life to knock people
out of the game. I've seen this guy do infect
bullshit because you only need half as many plus ones
of course. Yep. I've seen unblockable, I've seen shadow, I've
seen fuck all kinds of shit that gives him haste
because he's gonna die. He comes into play, you've got
five soul sisters, and all of a sudden you give
him haste. It's like, okay, I'm back online. Yep, right,
this guy's cool. Man. I played this guy for sure.
Speaker 1: Another eminently playable Warsov commander in the game. He's not
really an Aristocrats guy, but it sure could be.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it sure could be. It kind of feels
celesny Ish Celesnish Celesnia ish yeah, in that it cares
about soul siblings, as we coined, right, doesn't really feel
Arzov except for the second ability does it feels like
vindicate again? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The fuck your guy is an anguished une making,
I think is a better simile. It's removing it from
the game. It's not even killing it, it's getting rid
of it forever. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love getting rid of stuff forever, especially.
Speaker 1: That Rash Carlov versus Alenda Karlov probably beats her. Oh,
because you don't get no guys it. It might be
a faster deck too. I remember my Carve deck, man,
I could I killed Jesse one time, like on turn three.
It's very fine, It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: And that wasn't even using hatred, which was also in
the deck because because of course, fuck it, I gain life.
Why do I care about paying life, I'll just gain it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was getting back.
Speaker 2: Super super fun of note. Karlov and Daxos our number
ten card, both from the same Commander twenty fifteen experience
counter pre con.
Speaker 1: Which is crazy because they in no way interact with
each other. No, not in any way.
Speaker 2: No lots of enchantments in that deck. Cared about life
gain or sorry, gained you life? Sure which Das or
Karlov then cares about.
Speaker 1: That's because back in the day they used to load
those decks up with fucking garbage.
Speaker 2: Garbage sprints of the stag. If you will.
Speaker 1: Garbage number five, probably go number four. If only we
had Gary.
Speaker 2: Only Taza Orzov scion. This card's known combo, known combo
with darkest hour.
Speaker 1: Right, all your creatures are black? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so this is a two three? Hey check
that creature day.
Speaker 1: That's another advisor human advisor.
Speaker 2: Man, I should just become Orzov, No wonder, this is
one of my favorite color combos. Yeah, yeah, you know what.
I'm just gonna say it. Throughout my entire professional career,
my title has been Advisor's That's why I like advisors.
I don't know if anybody knows that.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. Nobody knew that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, right now my title is workforce advisor. Huh
So I got all of the gravy toss around me
and some amount of authority, but none of the consequence
because I just advise.
Speaker 1: And you just tell people what you think they should do,
like a consultant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a consultant that works directly for the corporation.
Fucking human scum right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we already knew that. This is why people
should never trust me during games. Somehow they just do.
They're stupid, they are You're stupid too, you've done it? Yeah,
right into my trap. Not anymore now you fall into
my trap.
Speaker 2: I just want to fall into another can of Nicoma's
craft ale long leg logger.
Speaker 1: You can't drank them all, damn it. Let's say what
tastes the Orozovsky and does she's a two to three
human advisor for Ozov and one. Sack three white creatures,
move target creature.
Speaker 2: From the game.
Speaker 1: That's becoming a trend. Whenever another black creature you control
is put into the graveyard front play, put a one
to one white spirit creature token of flying into play.
Oh okay, so when you're when you have the three
black and white spirits, you sack them, you make three
more of them, remove a creature, you remove all the creatures,
and then you that's that's it.
Speaker 2: Sack three, put a white spirit. But what do I
put into play? Whenever a black creature you control is
put into the graveyard from play like the three White
Black Spirits.
Speaker 1: Yep, you get another one. Sure, so you sacked the
three Exile of Creature, get three more, sacked them all,
the Exile of Creature, get three more, sacked them all,
get three creatures. Blah blah blah blah blah, and nobody
has creatures ever. Here's that fucking other guy in the art. Also, like,
who's this guy making on on Tasa?
Speaker 2: I don't know. He kind of seems creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like a creep. I don't like that guy.
Speaker 2: No, I don't like that guy.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that guy got cut from the arts. In
future iterations. Yes, I also like Tasta's shirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got the oarsone butthole on it, and that's
a cool. But instead of butthole, it's boobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would wear that if I had the chest
for it. I don't have crows ribs, so it look
kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Oh better having crows feet.
Speaker 1: Ah, Yeah, that's that's I think. Oh yeah I might
have That's that's an old comment. I wear glasses. I
can't tell if I have those or not.
Speaker 2: You only have them when you take a glasses off. Okay,
good that's a glasses thing. People with glasses. Let me
let me know in the comments. I guess I like, yeah,
Well they help you see.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's why I like them. I in the
top three, number three, it's going to be number three,
Come ball, Console of Allocation.
Speaker 2: This guy's number three. What the asses?
Speaker 1: There is another advisor, human advisor.
Speaker 2: So this is a two three for one. Uh same
two three human advisor for one. Whenever an opponent casts
a non creature spell, that player loses two and we
gain two.
Speaker 1: I don't what, so he must be high for a Really,
this is.
Speaker 2: Like a people call it Death and Taxes. Now, Death
and tax is very definitely a legacy deck that is
black and white. Commander players just think, oh, this is
a black and white deck that cares about gaining and draining.
This is a death and Taxes deck. Technically, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: But we've borrowed or reappropriated that name of deck sure
that was also black white into this style of magic play. Sure,
do something, take damage, I'll gain life. Excellent. I'm taxing
you and I'm killing your guys because I'm playing black white.
The two removal colors.
Speaker 1: Yes, and.
Speaker 2: This guy a little bit staxy, this guy going to
try to lock you out. This guy a little bit
pillow forty, but jack of all trades, master of none,
I don't know, man, but very very effective.
Speaker 1: He's an efficient commander because you're gaining to life and
you're losing to life when people are doing the thing
that their decks want to do. But I feel like
if a deck like Ruric Thar from Back and Groll
kind of fell out of favor, literally three times as
good as this guy and what he does, this guy
costs three and can do multiple instances when when you're
doing it, I guess and I'm okay. So let's say
the thing is twenty, he's thirty three percent better and
he's in He's in Groll, so he only costs three
as well, probably because you're playing Gros because you got
more man, right, you're probably gonna get They're gonna you're
gonna play comball thinking idiots, and then I'm gonna play
Rourick Thar anyway wimp, and then you're like, ah fuck,
and then everybody's gonna take eight on their turn. They're
gonna hate both of us, and then I'm gonna hit
you with my rouricthar and it's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, you know what we say. I've I've never
played against this or I have played against this HM,
I have played against Camball, Comball, comeball. I've never lost
to cumball deck.
Speaker 1: Either, and I have played against them as well, probably
the same deck.
Speaker 2: I think that this seems popular because people's you know,
you know, the guy that I always give the example of, Oh,
what's what's the deck that's going to piss off my
friends the most?
Speaker 1: How can I drain them for doing all the little
piddley stuff? How do I beat Storm?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, this is and this isn't a bad thing,
but this guy feels like a very immature commander. This
guy is a popular commander among new players who are
excited to put their decks online on architect yep dot
com that scrapes, because that's where we get all these stats.
Big shout out to those guys. And this guy is
the solution to your friends who combo off that you
can't seem to beat Otherwise, Yes, you would do that,
and that's fine, Sure, that's fine. This guy is kind
of like the blanket answer to Storm. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: You reanimate them or you cast them again, because he
only costs three.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, yeah, I think I think that that's fine.
That's just just an observation. Though, So don't at me
on that.
Speaker 1: I won't. I don't know, I don't. I don't care
much for this guy. He can fuck off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him. I probably would play him, though
I haven't.
Speaker 1: I think I've had him in a deck. I think
he was in my my original stacks tracks a list.
I think I think he was in there. And then
when I went to like everything has to have a
weird border, I caught him. He didn't have a weird border.
Speaker 2: So let's recap Daxos at ten boom a Ley Eternal,
Pilgrim at nine, yeah, Athrios at eight bam Ragna, and
Krav at seven bam. Six is a Lenda, Yeah, my bay.
Five is Karlov my bro Yeah. Four is Taysa. Yeah.
Three is Comba Comba two. Oh he was date stamp,
by the way, Yes they knew number two.
Speaker 1: Ohim Weaver all by not even with a partner, just
Tim to the weaver.
Speaker 2: Tim to the Weaver. Oh well maybe does no partner?
Is there any other partners that are just too Yeah
there is. There's fucking uh Ramos Ramos. Yeah. Yeah, So
Timna is a too too human cleric for ozoven One
with life link. At the beginning of your post combat
main phase, you pay x life, where x is the
number of opponents that were dealt damaged this turn if
you do draw x cards.
Speaker 1: So Thracios and Timna used to be very CEDA. Yeah,
like the cdo it was. I don't. I wouldn't say
it was the CDH deck, but I think it was
pretty close to being. Like the deck you played.
Speaker 2: Timna is still partners with lots of CEDH commanders. I think.
Don't ast me Tony or Toby, And I mean I could.
Speaker 1: I've played partners. I had a Tanna deck that was
just Tanna the Bloodstoe or by herself for a long time.
Speaker 2: Tanna and Timna. No, that's a CEDA combination, I.
Speaker 1: Know, but I never did that. I just played the
girl and made the apps and it was good.
Speaker 2: I put Timna in my Karlov deck and it's pretty
fucking good.
Speaker 1: I got tim Nay and my Ratidrabbic deck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's good man.
Speaker 1: I should have been paying attention to how many of
these commanders actually have in rata Drabbic.
Speaker 2: I bet she's gonna be more in the now probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like creatures. Yeah, Timna, you hit your
opponents with your little guys and you draw cards like that's.
Speaker 2: Is is mono Timna? No no, no is mono Timna,
just like deathtouch dot deck could be It could be,
ye could be because they don't want to block and
then you draw cards.
Speaker 1: And then you play all the soul siblings that you're
able to kind of kind of gain some of that
life back while you're attacking. Yeah, it could be a
it could be a neat deck. You know what would
be a cool Timna the weaver. I don't know if
you could do it. You probably can't, but maybe you
could down in the comments if you have spiders, because
she's green in them though, I know that's what I mean.
You probably, I don't know if you could do it.
Speaker 2: Well, partner with somebody in.
Speaker 1: Green with spiders, yeah, because she's like a spiders because
she should have a bunch of arms and then she's weaving,
you know, because she's got a spider web behind her,
and she could be a spider lady. We don't know, spider.
She could have a whole bunch of eyes underneath that blindfold.
Speaker 2: Human cleric spider.
Speaker 1: She's from Eros, isn't she. She's one of the sisters
of Fate. She's the middle one. Yeah, well, there's the
there's the one with the spinning wheel that holds the yarn.
That's the that's your birth. And then there's the one
that measures the thread that's the like the fate and
measures your life. And there's one with the scissors that
cuts the string off. That's your's your death. I forget
their names that ah, I wish I could remember the
name of this.
Speaker 2: Is that a Greek mythology thing? Or is that a
is that a magic?
Speaker 1: That's a Greek mythology thing, which is what theorois was
based on.
Speaker 2: And she's the middle one. She measures the yarn and
weaves it. She's she's weaving the tapestry of your life.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: And then you pay X life and draws cards.
Speaker 1: And fucking die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my favorite part of life. Okay, uh, that's
number two.
Speaker 1: Is this number one?
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's number one of them? Oh taste a
karlav Oh this is new Tasa yeah, that yeah, that
of course, okay, of course.
Speaker 1: Advisor Human Advisor two.
Speaker 2: Four date stamped for Orozov and two.
Speaker 1: If a creature dying causes a triggered ability of a
permanent you control the trigger that.
Speaker 2: Trigger triggers trigger trigger.
Speaker 1: Again also creature tokens you control. Have vigilance in life,
like this is an Aristocrats commander. Don't at me, everybody
shut up. This is kind of like Cranko in Red.
Speaker 2: Oh you're going that far crank my dank in Red,
but black.
Speaker 1: White, I am. I would be amazed. If she is
still not number one, I would be amazed. Is that
a prediction, Yes, because this is the Aristocrats commander.
Speaker 2: Because when your thing dies and you lose a life
and I gain a life, that happens.
Speaker 1: And one of them and I would argue, and I
think that this is very responsible of the people who play,
and I always appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Or is.
Speaker 1: Decks are non determinant in most cases where you can
like do the loop a little bit, and this one
increases the efficiency of what you're doing. Therefore, if you're
going to take that long grindy Aristocrats turn, we all
die faster and can get to the next game, and
I do appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I don't hate that. My favorite part is you control
have vigilance and lifelink.
Speaker 1: Like why not? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 2: Also, all my tokens in Alenda also have flying.
Speaker 1: And already have lifelink.
Speaker 2: Well, you shut up. I definitely play this in my
lended deck really fucking good with grave packed because when
I sacrifice one guy, my Alenda gets two plus one counters,
and you have to sacrifice two guys, and then Alenda
gets four more counters.
Speaker 1: And then when a Lenda dies you get the creatures twice.
Speaker 2: Oh, everything is awesome.
Speaker 1: Right, Everything is cool when you're part of a team
that's had buy a Taste.
Speaker 2: Car Loft, Yes or Landa, and when they're scissoring better.
Speaker 1: And they are in each other's decks, trust and believe.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Also, for the record, she's in Rated Dragon because yeah, yeah, yeah,
you like to fucking make creature tokens. I like to
make creature tokens of legendary guys that are broken as fu.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's number one. Not surprising, even though I
didn't remember she existed, because these lists always make me
not remember that things exist, except for Cranco.
Speaker 1: Except for Cranko. Yeah, everybody knew Cranko is gonna be
a thing. Let's play my favorite game again. What's that
Uncle Brando's interpretation of the guild symbol there? It is
black asshole. Yeah that and not as good.
Speaker 2: I can't look away from the hole.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's yeah.
Speaker 2: It's even got the wrinkles.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: That is a star. That is a black star.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Some all that's missing is the hot dog flavored water,
not bleached. It's just it's just let's just go to
the Let's go to the number ten of now, Ryan.
Speaker 2: Let me just get that off the screen. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What Zora Line Cosmos Crawler.
Speaker 2: This is from Bloomborough it is This is Zraline. This
is what won the cosplay contest in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I took a picture with that lead. Yeah,
she was very graceful. I liked her.
Speaker 2: Three three back cleric for one flying vigilance. Whenever a
battery control attacks, you gain one life. Okay, whenever Zorraline
enters or attack, you may pay orozov and to life
when you do return target non land permanent with man
of value three or less from your gravebird to the
battlefield with a finality counter on it. Really, that's lots
of value.
Speaker 1: This really, I mean I get that there's lots of value,
but this kind of surprises me this because the finality
counter kind of stops this card from being really good.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like Sun tightening your zone because when
it enters and attacks, Sure, you got to pay the
thing blah blah blah, but you can have some bats.
She's a bat, You gain life, you get some of
your life back. This is kind of like a Sun
Titan in the zone. It allows you to play bats,
which are kind of an unsupported creature.
Speaker 1: Type and nobody cares about bats.
Speaker 2: Mark my words, We're gonna get more bats, bats and cats, baby.
Speaker 1: Like, do you think that we're gonna?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you're playing skeletal vampire in this deck because it
makes bats? Are you playing that? Baby? Like? I think
there was another vampire that made bats. To flip over,
you're playing desecrated tomb. That makes badly you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2: Like a desecrated tomb triggers when this takes something out
of your graveyard. Oh yeah yeah yeah, and uh Tormaud
the desecrated also yeah in this one. Yeah, cool picture
on that that is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: There's a cool picture on this card too. Actually, I
do like this. It looks neat, but I don't know, man, like,
I'm surprised to see her so high.
Speaker 2: Dude, we are in the the synergy age of Commander.
Speaker 1: I suppose the finality counter though, you know, like, I'm
gonna get my coolest thing back. Yes, sweet, I'll kill it.
It's gone.
Speaker 2: How many things remove counter? Some shit? Maybe some of those.
Maybe you blink it you're playing white.
Speaker 1: I guess you could blink it.
Speaker 2: You could use Oh guaranteed, you're playing stuff that blinks,
so you get rid of the finality counter in white.
There's probably infinite commos with that.
Speaker 1: Who's the the I play it on all kinds of stuff.
It's one one for one for EXI in black and
X remove X counters from something.
Speaker 2: Oh X person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, brother, there you go.
Speaker 2: Guaranteed that's in this deck.
Speaker 1: Guaranteed it is. Yes, I promise you that's in there.
Speaker 2: I don't hate this Zor line. I like Sun Titan.
I put him in this deck too.
Speaker 1: I would too.
Speaker 2: I am can't get him back with orline.
Speaker 1: Though, no, no, no, he can get Zor Line back
with him. Hell yeah, brother, Yeah, make a token is
zor line. You can get Zora line back with or line. Whoa, Yeah,
what I mean you're out of drabic. You're right, I
should get one of the probably good I will probably
do that. Yeah, get a Fusion Gaming Online dot Com
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nine nine. I knew you're Silver Quill. Jeezus, this is
holy crap. This is like weird as we're recording. This
is from the most recently released set. Yeah, this is
from the new Yeah. This card's like fifteen minutes old.
Speaker 2: This is a four four for four with flying and Visualist.
It's Elder Dragon so we could play DH Yeah yeah,
I love edh. Each instant in sorcery spell you cast
has casualty.
Speaker 1: One that means you sacrifice one thing and you can
copy it. I think that's what casualty means.
Speaker 2: Fuck, I want all of this card.
Speaker 1: That's wild no wonder, it's up here so high you
let your copy spell else jesus.
Speaker 2: I want that card of my lend a deck.
Speaker 1: Huh, Hey you do is that what casually does? I think?
Speaker 2: So I'm looking up.
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up.
Speaker 2: You look it up. I'm gonna go to the next
card because this card good. I don't like the picture
that you picked. He's got a weird face and he's
wearing glasses. Oh no, I like that part. That's not
the part I don't like. And he's got like a
you got a sig, got a cigarette?
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, Here we go. Casualty is an
optional additional cost. You may sacrifice the creature with power
one or greater. Doing so triggers and ability that copies
the spell.
Speaker 2: So I sacrificed my one one to copy the spell,
and I get to copy my instant and sorcery. So
now I have two vindicates.
Speaker 1: Now you have two torment of hell fires. Now you have.
Speaker 2: Two debt to the deathless. Yes, you have two yes
to the less.
Speaker 1: You have two wrath of gods to kill the Elenda player.
Speaker 2: No, because they both go on the stack at the
same time, and then a Lenda's ability.
Speaker 1: Will because one resolves, Then a Lenda's trigger goes on
on top of the second one gets the dudes. Then
the second wrath gets the rest of the dudes.
Speaker 2: No, if I play it in my deck, I just
won't wrath the god or will I you might, Yeah, yeah,
I might. Might I go something that makes me want
to do that.
Speaker 1: So copying spells, we obviously know why. That's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is very good.
Speaker 1: And you're sacrificing a creature as Warsov wants to do.
Probably do Aristocrats people. I'm not calling this an Aristocrats deck,
but here we are.
Speaker 2: I like this card, like that card. I filled that card.
That's pretty good. Ship.
Speaker 1: This is surprised.
Speaker 2: This is number eight. Yeah, Rimas is a three four
Fyrexian cat for Oarzon. And two. Whenever you cast a
Frexian creature or artifact creature spell, incubate X is that
spells man of value. So incubate is you get an.
Speaker 1: X, you get a Ferrexian something with X counters on it,
and you can pay I think two to flip the
incubator toke it over into a Ferrexian that has those counters.
Speaker 2: Those plus ones on it. At the beginning of each
end step. If a Ferrexian died under your control, this
turn like your incubator. You proliferate to make your other
incubators bigger and or make your guys that flipped over
and are Ferrexians now with plus ones also bigger correct.
I don't know, man, Misty trump Jones plays this guy,
I bet he does. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's got a cool ass picture on it, like that
looks awesome.
Speaker 2: I painted him to have an oiler's jersey and a
goalie stick.
Speaker 1: Of course you did, Yes, I did for Brad Trump Jones. Yes, guarantee, Yes.
Speaker 2: Very much so. Ferrexian relevant creature type cat relevant creature
type right, Thyrexian is a thing that people are into.
Incubator plus one Proliferate checks lots of boxes because it's
got words people like right orzov In three cards thus
far in the now, sure, giving us three very different things.
That's true, different than what we saw in the top
ten of then, but also different from each other. In
the first three cards. This is the first first color
combo that that I can kind of that I feel
like that about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm with that.
Speaker 2: We're way out to lunch, Like, who the fuck is
this guy? What is that?
Speaker 1: Huh? What the hell is going on here? Yeah, we're
copying spells, were killing dudes and making guys were I
forget what the first one doesn't even care what the
first one does. It wasn't those other two things.
Speaker 2: This is number seven, color out seven, got to be seven, okay, Athrie,
he's he's a mainstay.
Speaker 1: So he climbed, He went up a little bit. That's
the art I play for the record. He climbed, he
went up.
Speaker 2: What was he before?
Speaker 1: Duh, like eight eight, eight or nine? No, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think he's he's close to be the same.
Speaker 1: He didn't move much. Oh yeah, he moved one or two,
but he I think he went up and he's the
same deck. Of course, he's the same thing. He still
does the the shadow born Apostles thing. He still does
the Aristocrats thing, if that's what you're into. Both, Yeah,
he does both at the same time.
Speaker 2: And here we are.
Speaker 1: There's our first Aristocrats of Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take that. Ye, I'll take that.
Speaker 1: Neat, Let's keep going. Six Cattrams the New Dawn. What
from fucking ether? This is our second ether drift ever.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see anything and surprised to see anything
from ever.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: This guy it was from Amancat via ether drift. Yes, yes, okay, So.
Speaker 1: We finally go back to amon Cat, which I'm very
excited about. And it's in the goddamn wacky races set
and it's combined with two other planes yes, fuck yep, So.
Speaker 2: It's a four to four god for Orozov and one
menace lifelink indestructible Menace lifelink indestructible four four for three.
Speaker 1: Pretty good.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's got to be a catch, Kettra. Most can't
attack or block there it is unless there are seven
or more cards in exile.
Speaker 1: Huh. Fuck, well, so every removal spell in the colors.
Speaker 2: Yes. Also, whenever one or more cards are put into
exile from graveyards, so we're also playing Tormod's Crypt and
the like. Yeah, and or the battlefield. During your turn,
you draw a card and lose a life.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Whenever one or more cards are put into exile from
graveyards and or the battlefield. Oh so, whenever I exile
something or exile a graveyard, I draw a card lose life.
Speaker 1: So let's let's split a hair for a moment. If
I have a lay line of the void, it doesn't
go to the graveyard. Therefore, I do not lose a
life in draw card. Correct, it's going to the graveyard
if you replace from the battlefield. Yeah, so it would
Leyland and the void would just turn this guy off. No,
until you have seven or more things from because he
didn't go to the graveyard, he get exiled instead.
Speaker 2: How does it turn it off?
Speaker 1: Because nothing is going to the graveyard. It's not being
exiled from the graveyard, just being exiled.
Speaker 2: But when it gets exiled from the battlefield is or Okay,
I missed the ord or from the battlefield, and I
kill you if I terminate your guy. When I have
a lay line and there's a replacement effect, it just
gets exiled.
Speaker 1: I tear this fucking asshole guy.
Speaker 2: Now it's this non black, non art effect.
Speaker 1: So this is a draw engine in the command zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, removal dot deck. Yeah, he's got a bow in
the picture. That's him shooting things.
Speaker 1: Yes, you probably you have reach instead of menace, I
suppose because he's got a bow and arrow, not menacing.
He looks like a tool. I'll bet you could beat
that kind of fight.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's got a bowl whatever, what's he
gonna do? Hit me? No, he's gonna shoot you. How
many arrows he's gonna X value and draw card?
Speaker 1: Borimir was a total bitch And how many arrows did
it take to take him down like forty two at least. Yeah,
and the arrows didn't even kill him. He had to
get stabbed.
Speaker 2: No, the arrow's got him.
Speaker 1: Now that in the movie, the guy stabs him at
the end like hit gets hit with all the arrows
and then he's like, screw you face, put print face guy,
handprint face guy, and.
Speaker 2: He's like.
Speaker 1: Round grand da pont yeh and he kills him with
the sword. No, I'm pretty sure, you sure, pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure I'm right comments down below. If Borimir
gets stabbed and if believe me, if I'm right about
a Lord of the Rings thing, holy fuck, am I
gonna lord that over this whole podcast.
Speaker 2: Forever Lord of the Rings and over the podcast.
Speaker 1: Damn right, dir dirt right, Yeah, yeah yeah, catch your most. Yeah,
he's there.
Speaker 2: I never were expected to see this.
Speaker 1: He does catch the most. I'm surprised he's so high
on the list. Let's just keep going. I did not
see this coup. This is like, this is.
Speaker 2: The weirdest one.
Speaker 1: I can't even see this being a super fun deck
to play.
Speaker 2: Since the Bias one. I don't know, because people had him.
Speaker 1: No, it's just the most common mythic in the set,
and people like I want to build something onto this
shitty commander.
Speaker 2: No, does he crew vehicles?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Is it a vehicle deck? He's a he's a four
power guy for three. They can't attack or block. He's
fucking driving.
Speaker 1: And he's indestructible.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, this guy's driving.
Speaker 1: It's a vehicle deck.
Speaker 2: It's like me running the four hundred meters.
Speaker 1: No, I'm driving, fair point, all right, Yeah, sure, all right,
vehicle deck, CA catcher.
Speaker 2: Most I'm putting it out there.
Speaker 1: Let's let's keep going. Geez, that's a fucking number six. Sure,
six would be chill swelling Sulgan are sire of famine?
What the ass?
Speaker 2: This is from modern Horizons something.
Speaker 1: So he's a six six for five elder demon. So
he's one of Liliana's buds. We can still play with
flying that's true. Sacrifice another bro. Create a butt token. Yep,
if you sacrificed an angel this way, create a number
of butt tokens equal to its toughness instead, and then
it has sack six butt tokens. Return each creature card
from your graveyard to the battlefield with finality caunters on them.
Those creatures are vampires. In addition to the other times
this aren't these zombies, they should be zombies.
Speaker 2: Well, because there's simps out there that like demons and
angels and vampires.
Speaker 1: Hey, Aaron, what's up man? Mm hmmmmmm Andy Warhol's side
profile treatment. Yeah, that's that's that was for me. That
was that was that was me.
Speaker 2: Doing Liliana Demon guy six six elder demon. This says
a sacrifice.
Speaker 1: Sixty six for five the number of the neighbor of
the beast.
Speaker 2: Yes, the number of the neighbor of the beast. Did
we just coin that?
Speaker 1: I hope so.
Speaker 2: I think so. This guy lives at five six six
six Lane. He's the devil's neighbor. He's like calling the
h aah yeah, the fucking devil again.
Speaker 1: Satan's outside having a party and it's very loud.
Speaker 2: Satan hasn't cut his grass since last Tuesday.
Speaker 1: The dandelions are out of control.
Speaker 2: Yes, Satan's backyard has a trampoline in it.
Speaker 1: All the neighborhood kids keep falling off and breaking their hips.
Speaker 2: Yep, I love Satan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's who knew being his neighbor a terrible neighbor.
He would either be the best neighbor or the worst.
I feel like he might be a good name. Does
Satan doesn't strike me like somebody who ships where he eats,
you know what I mean. He's probably one of those
guys you'd just be like, hey, man, you want to
I want to come by. We're having a pool party. Yeah,
I suppose as long as you stop, as long as
a grease the damn springs on your trampoline. He'd be like, yeah, okay, sure,
I love a girl greasy spring. Yeah, man, number four
number sure just counted. But it's just call it for
what do fuck is that?
Speaker 2: Clav clavi calv.
Speaker 1: Clala clalliano first klala anal cali anal first of the
blest is a vampire cleric for three. It's a two
to two. Whenever you attack, Oh my goodness, target attacking
vampire that isn't a demon becomes a demon in addition
to his other type and gains when this creature eats shit.
Draw card and create a tapped four to three white
and black vampire demon creature token with flying. Holy fuck. Huh,
So you attack with so it's a vampire deck. When
your vampires die, they become four threes with flying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just played.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is without red.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you do, but here we are.
Speaker 2: It says vampire and demon on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think this is like because Edgar Markov is very expensive,
and I'll bet you this card is not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet this card could probably right.
Speaker 1: This card doesn't cost egger prices.
Speaker 2: Also, enter the battlefield, enter the bin triggers. Whenever anybody
dies target attacking a vampire that isn't a demon becomes
a demon. Oh no, it just becomes a demon. Then
when it dies, I get another guy.
Speaker 1: Back and you drop card.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's lots of things that make this card good. Yeah,
still playing anger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this card would be unbelievable if that token came
into play untapped. I think a card it's pretty good
because you attack with your shitty guy, you get some
damage in, then you sack them to do your warsof thing,
probably in an asta card figger, and then get a
three four flying blocker out of it. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this card's good. Yeah, I'm not playing
it though. No I'm not either. I'm I don't even
know what. I just never have seen this card before.
Speaker 1: I am dumbfounded. This card even exists.
Speaker 2: This card is number four on the top oars of
Commanders of all time. And we're just a bunch of
fucking idiots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've never I don't even I didn't even know
about it. I didn't know this card existed.
Speaker 2: I guess Commander cookout dot com Commander cookout at gmail
dot com. In the discord Patreon two comments, you got
this deck drop the deck list somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can conceptualize it in my mind.
But maybe I'll be surprised.
Speaker 2: I hope. I hope you are.
Speaker 1: I probably won't be Lisa, Lisa Shroud of Dusk.
Speaker 2: I like this card. This is a five to five
angel for black, white white two. Sure cool. Rather than
pay two for each previous time you've cast this spell
from the command zone, you could pay two life instead. Okay,
hell yeah, fuck I hate life love manna. I don't
want to pay it though, Okay, flying lifelink whenever a
player casts a spell. Whenever a player casts a spell,
they lose two life.
Speaker 1: Why would you play coumball instead of this because you're
an idiot? Yeah, well, I guess comball isn't on the
now list. And now that I'm saying this though.
Speaker 4: Oh he's not going to be on here when this exists.
There's no way this card fucking slash. That's crazy because
doesn't give a shit about paying to fucking life. No,
it doesn't care.
Speaker 2: Also, this is a control stacks deck. Casting anything other
than what it the bare fucking minimum for me to
stay alive. Yeah, you think I want to play magic
when I play magic? No, I want to make it
miserable for you to play magic. Fuck them.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Hell yeah that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: And you know what else I'll do?
Speaker 1: You know what else? Tell me I'll play a swords
to plowshares, pay two life, ye, just to not die?
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't attack me, I'll kill it. We have to
pay two life. Do you think I give a ship
when you're attacking you in eleven eleven? If I have
to pay two that's true. Yeah, what if I sacrifice
this a bunch of times? I could pay two life
to recast it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are things that care about you paying
life too, and a you pay life do a thing,
paying life to do a.
Speaker 2: Thing, and then the trade lives with you because I'm
playing oars off.
Speaker 1: No, that's true there's there's a mirror and the Magus.
Speaker 2: Of the Mirror I and and mirror universe. Ye, and
there's that guy that lets you switch his power and
your life total.
Speaker 1: Tree of Tradition. Also that okay.
Speaker 2: Also Bullus is Citadel.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Also this is a flying lifelinker. I I just hatred
for fucking thirty and then gain it all back. Yeah,
there's so many things I like about this card.
Speaker 1: The picture is neat too.
Speaker 2: I like the picture some secret there's ship I'm gonna
I'm gonna seriously consider playing this card with the one
ring in this card, and then you can't even fuck
with me, and I'll just skip a bunch of my
next turns and shit, because that's what I'm about to do.
And every time you fucking do anything, you gotta pay
two life. God, dang, I like this card. Fucking so
many things make me happy about this card.
Speaker 1: You really like orsof Yeah you like a lot. I
loves like Rando and Gruel.
Speaker 2: I like black and white assholes.
Speaker 1: Peanut butter and jelly. Yeah, peanut butter and jam.
Speaker 2: For me though, Yeah I'm not a jelly guy, if
you know, you know. Also yeah, okay, okay, Well this
has got to be number four.
Speaker 1: Strawberries, Jam mcglock, don't.
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's do account here, just to make sure,
because I don't want to wreck the surprise of number one.
Speaker 1: We all know number one. Zora Line is ten, Okay,
Silverquill is nine, it's another surprise. Brims is eight, another surprise.
Athriosa is seven, not a surprise.
Speaker 2: Six.
Speaker 1: I don't understand that at all.
Speaker 2: Schlillingar the devil? Sure five clavely clavical anus.
Speaker 1: What are the odds of that happening?
Speaker 2: Lisa's three?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Do you think people say, Lisa?
Speaker 1: That's that's that says Lisa.
Speaker 2: Liza is three? Right? No, she's four? No, she's Three's three?
Number two? What aria of the caramel apple?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What the fuck of the charmed apple?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What the ass?
Speaker 1: What in the what is this fuck? News? Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2: Trolling us?
Speaker 1: Are they just they're fucking with us? This can't be real,
No way, I'm gonna look it up after absolutely no
waste two four for three Human warlock. Each creature that's
enchanted by an aura you control can't attack us or
planes walkers we control at the beginning of our end step.
Each opponent loses x life and we gain x life,
where x is the number of auras we have. Now
this seems kind of like that same deck as Daxos,
but like kind of instead of it being O Ring
dot deck, it's Pacifism dot.
Speaker 2: Deck, which is the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the what the fuck is happening? What is
happening if this one doesn't have the thing that gives
you the thing that lets you attack that, you know what?
I mean? What the hell is happening here?
Speaker 2: Man? I'm looking at all the fucking.
Speaker 1: Wait, if you look it up, you don't know which
one's number one? No, you fucking got No. I'm looking
at all the pictures of the regular commanders sure, and
I'm like, oh, yeah, I know that card.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know that card. Oh yeah I know
that card. Yeah, Like look at this, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that card?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that before. Yeah, it's definitely seen that one.
Speaker 2: You definitely seen, is it?
Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, that's a good that's a good picture too. One.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's area of the charmed apple.
Speaker 1: That's number two that that's we're missing something. We have
to two point zero we have to be missing something.
We have to be eighteen and seventy seven dexa zero
percent chance we're not missing something. We have to we
have to be missing something as to why she's.
Speaker 2: Number two at the beginning of your end step. That's good.
Each opponent loses x and you gain X where X
is the number or as you control. Sure, that's fucking good.
Sure if you have six or eight each opponent, it's good. Eh,
this is a great control commander. I would build this.
Speaker 1: Because you because it lets you play the fucking ten
cent pacifism that's been holding up the table at the
Coachman Licensed.
Speaker 2: Ever room for the last year. Sure, and put it
in a deck. Sure, this is a good one. This
card's good.
Speaker 1: It's good. But is it number two top commander?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: I don't think it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. If Daxos was on the
top ten and then this is better than that.
Speaker 1: You think this is better than Taxos?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: What if their creatures start to die?
Speaker 2: No, Daxos.
Speaker 1: Daxos is like, uh oh yeah, I'll give you a guy. Well,
do your bigliness to your experience counters. Then you have
to attack and ship. No, this one just fucking does it?
I guess, And.
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll enchant her with a bunch of
shit that makes her impervious. I'll give a protection from
this and that and make it so she cannot die.
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah. I still don't think.
Speaker 2: It's this card. I think it's good. I want to
see lists. I want to see garbage that is turned
into treasure because of this death.
Speaker 1: Sure. Hell yeah, brother, it's number two died.
Speaker 2: How do you feel? How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I hate that? Well, especially since we no number one.
I'm totally convinced it's taste. Carlo. There's no way it's
not taste, Carlo.
Speaker 2: I did, I did. I wasn't looking, and I scrolled
until I went down to like number four or whatever,
and then I went back up to three, then back
up to two.
Speaker 1: So I don't actually, because I think it's gonna when
we're gonna say the exact same thing we said last week,
where we have we have haven't seen all these Where
are all the aristocrats commanders. It's because they were totally
outclassed by one I one Aristocrats commander. And here it is.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna push the button.
Speaker 1: Taste of Karlov watch Bam, there it is, and it's
the sexy art too human Advisor Baby where she's a pimp.
It's the four to two for four double die triggers.
Speaker 2: Double dies vigilance lifelink tokens.
Speaker 1: She immediately she outclassed every other Aristocrats commander so hard
that they ceased to exist.
Speaker 2: She outclassed every Aristocrats commander so hard that there were
zero universes beyond commanders in this list.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, you're right none.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was the initial experiment.
Speaker 1: Holy Is this the first time that's happened? Mm hmm, No,
it didn't happen last week or the week before. I
don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think it's happened before.
Speaker 1: Regardless, Yeah, regardless, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Carloff still greater than all, Like still better?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's so stout and then it
has the extra line of creature tokens you control have
vigilance in lifelink. Yeah, like that's I forget that she
has that all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'll bet people who play or do too is
it don't care.
Speaker 2: Or you look over at Taysa car Love players and
you're like, I had sixty Yeah, oh yeah, my guys
have lifelink. Oh shit, yeah, fuck you know what I
can I can't think of an aura or enchantments matters
Commander at Orzov that is better than this. Something comes
to mind, sure from Universes Beyond.
Speaker 1: From area he's talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah Aria, Uh Lisa shroud of Dusk originally from Commander Legends.
I didn't recognize this picture of her because I've only
ever seen the Commander of Legends one. I just knew
that I like a Lisa Shroud of Dusk.
Speaker 1: This is a secret Lark card, and that.
Speaker 2: Card intrigued me. But when Commander Legends came out, I
had like two Oorsov decks already. Sure, I've never built this,
but it's right up my alley. You know, I hate life? Yeah,
fuck it, take it all away. Yeah, this is cool, man,
And I can't think of a better card that allows
me to do the my life doesn't matter thing? Sure right?
That isn't Mono black Yeah yeah yeah. It still lets
me play Hatred, which is super fun. Uh Clavelino. Yeah,
I'm still playing anger and and and.
Speaker 1: Going back like the Angels Demons. Yeah, Angels and Demons
and not Counters and all that, and ultimately like shadow
Born Apostles is a demon's deck, right, so a lot
of a lot of Oarzov gets caught up in the
angels and demons and vampires. We saw that with kravin Regna,
which is a demon and an angel. So oh no,
this is this is a this is a fucking shadow
worn Apostles deck too. Oh yeah, it absolutely is. Because
you sacked six of them or five of them on
whoever many, you get enough fucking blood tokens to get
them all back and do it again. Yes, yeah, yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's funny. The Top Commanders of All Time
list has included shadow Born Apostles and Hair Apparent and
Relentless Rats and Rat Colony. And in Mono Blue we
saw decks or theorized decks that could be persistent petitioners decks.
I know that you did bring up against slim against humanity,
but I think just because you did that, but we
could see how we talked about Dragon's approach during Mono Red.
It's funny that those play any number cards are so
I guess, yeah, I guess it's no coincidence, right that
the popular commanders go into those decks and those decks
go into the popular.
Speaker 1: Commander's decks because you're going to see lots of them,
and they're people like them.
Speaker 2: That's why it's funny whether you keep them forever or no,
or if it's just keep them forever in air quotes,
because on arcadect dot com, you just don't take your
decks apart. Yeah, and I guess ultimately that's why dh
reck is limited to just the last the last couple
of years. Yeah, so we live in an imperfect world,
but we can see a bunch of trends and interesting
things to talk about. Obviously, because this is like what
almost episode is it? Episode ten in the Ark and eleven?
We cut these, we cut these short. We could go
on and on and on and oh yeah, bout the
differences and the similarities. And I think it's super cool.
Speaker 1: You know what I super liked about this specific episode
or zov is it did the same thing as last week.
We're one of the like the number one commander completely
demolished all trace of the protain, like the predominant archetype
of the color pairing, so much so that a bunch
of crazy shit was in the top ten. Yeah, right,
Like I would say that Taso Karloff took all the
aristocrats all but most of the aristocrats debt kind of
out of content, and so we saw crazy shit like
bre Maas and all that. Yeah, right, you never would
have You never didn't see that then, And not a
single fucking universe is beyond guy to show up and
eat our lunch. I get fucked birds do like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like that part for sure. So if
if you wanted to, I don't know, pick up any
of these cards, uh, oh, where would you go?
Speaker 1: I would go to Commander Cocoat dot com. I would
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code ceco nation to say five percent off all of
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Speaker 2: Or aristocrats or shadow born apostles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to do that, you could do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose you could do that. But uh, maybe
you want to buy a hatred.
Speaker 1: Maybe we talk about hatred a lot.
Speaker 2: Maybe you want to persistent petitioners. Then when you see
me at a magic con or a face to face
event or something, you get me to sign it.
Speaker 1: Maybe you want to buy a brash taunter and have
me sign it CEO Nation promo code gonna get you
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Speaker 2: Either you can get like play mats and board games
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Speaker 2: Probably could have felt like, if he wants he wants
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Speaker 1: Movie, good, go take him to see the he Man movie,
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thought of the day.
Speaker 1: We are doing No, we're taking it. We're switching it
because you wanted to. You wanted to save Gulgari, which
should be next, but we're gonna switch it with is it.
So we're gonna talk about what is it? Next week?
Is it?
Speaker 2: Oh? Fuck? I did that for real. I didn't even
mean to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that next week that we're doing that
talking about? Is it?
Speaker 2: No? Next week we're talking about Gulguri. We have a
subject matter expert.
Speaker 1: I thought that you wanted to switch it. No, so
we're gonna just keep rolling completely unmolested. Nothing changes.
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought that we had to change, but we don't.
Speaker 1: So we are doing Gulgary as.
Speaker 2: Far as I know, the subject matter experts, plane tickets
he booked.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question, Yes, sir, here's the
This is the question that we're going to see now.
I have not looked at fuck all of shit from Marvel,
Marvel Comics, superheroes coming up.
Speaker 2: I have been looking at them, so.
Speaker 1: I don't care about that set. I do not, which
is crazy because I like comics and that is a
little bit it's a little weird. I have heard much
talk about the Serpent Society.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, there's a card for sure.
Speaker 1: Do you think Serpent Society is going to be in
the top ten next week? Do you think that a
card at time of recording next week will not have
even been released yet? Do you think it will be
in the top ten?
Speaker 2: That's some memory jar ship right there.
Speaker 1: Because I think it might be. I think it could
make an appearance in the top ten. I'm not saying
for sure, but I'd be willing to be it'd be
up there.
Speaker 2: Oh Rick, do.
Speaker 1: You think, like, what do you think it's Do you
think it's gonna be in there?
Speaker 2: I don't think it will be.
Speaker 1: You don't think so. I don't think it will be
because how high was Finn the fang bear in Mono Green? Yes, yeah,
and one here it is, but with fuck black in
it that has ward get five poison counters?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you can you make him be the target
of spells your abilities? Hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah you can. It's fucking green. Yeah and black, dude,
Hatred is an ability the targets. But I think that
it's a ward thing, so they have to target it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it is, but I want it
to be.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm kind of hoping it is, too.
Speaker 2: I wish I was doing the Gulgary episode, but I will.
I will certainly.
Speaker 1: Well you're not gonna be here, Well, i'll be here. Well,
we have a subject matter expert who knows more than
I do. Oh oh okay, yeah, I didn't know that
was I'm not.
Speaker 2: So much of a man that I won't admit when
I've been outclassed by other humans. Oh shit, Yeah, that's
this is just a build up. It's just a build up.
Final thought of the day. Let's get the hell out
of here so we can drink more beer.
Speaker 1: Okay, final thought of the day. We're gonna do Gulghari
next week, and you can be here with us when
we do it. On the next exciting episode of Coo
Mander Cookout podcast. In our Thing