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Speaker 2: I've got some Makeover Magic to talk to you about
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Speaker 2: really really big list, but today I'll pepper that in
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Speaker 2: speaking of yap, and let me introduce our awesome team.
Speaker 2: Sam of course, is on the board. There is are
Speaker 2: not so live studio audience. How are you doing, Sam?
Speaker 1: How is Hawaii? Very good?
Speaker 2: I'm still on Hawaii time right now, man, I'm still
Speaker 2: on island time.
Speaker 1: This is great. When did you get back yesterday? Early morning?
Speaker 2: I took a red eye and I got back in
Speaker 2: and I still haven't quite adjusted yet.
Speaker 1: But there's no better way to adjust than here on
Speaker 1: this show. With you.
Speaker 2: Oh you were in Oahu, right, that was good. I was,
Speaker 2: and I found out how fire was discovered. Oh oh,
Speaker 2: accidentally or intentionally, like it has to do with this
Speaker 2: dude named Maui.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got you, I got you? All right. Well
Speaker 1: I could go in it, but that would be the
Speaker 1: whole two hour show.
Speaker 2: Well, I am glad you had a great time. You
Speaker 2: sound relaxed. You sound very.
Speaker 1: Mahallow, I'm tanned.
Speaker 2: I feel good, all right, buddy, as I said producer Michelle. Oh,
Speaker 2: look at Michelle's already taking a call. There is room
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Speaker 2: Dean my buddy. Eileen Gonzalez at the news desk, Good morning, Eileen,
Speaker 2: Good morning Dean.
Speaker 1: How's it going good? How was Hawaii? Oh gosh, don't
Speaker 1: tell me. I'm so jealous right now. I wish I
Speaker 1: could go.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah that's the way it works. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll just have this morning. What's our tea of choice?
Speaker 1: Ah, it is a green tea right now. There you go.
Speaker 1: So you're going for the caffeine. You're going for the.
Speaker 2: Hit, going for the hit. I need it, I get it,
Speaker 2: I get it. I understand. H glad to be working
Speaker 2: with you as always. My friend same here sitting across
Speaker 2: the table from me, my better half, my design partner,
Speaker 2: co owner, co founder of House Whisper, my best friend
Speaker 2: in the world. There is her spirit animal entering the building.
Speaker 2: Tina is here, Welcome home. How is Hawaii?
Speaker 1: Uh? It was great in my dreams, in your dream Well,
Speaker 1: we do have some friends there that are headed there
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot. Who is Chris going? Oh, Shawna Naos.
Speaker 2: That's right, shout out Shawna Naos also going to Hawaiian
Speaker 2: I guess it's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's the thing. It's happening all right. Anybody go to uh.
Speaker 2: Uh uh, let's see here Coachella. Anybody go to Well Sam,
Speaker 2: didn't anybody go to Coachella this week? No?
Speaker 1: Is that happening?
Speaker 2: No, no, nothing, Even though you know I'm headlining this weekend,
Speaker 2: why do you question? And they specifically requested that I
Speaker 2: get up there, like in between moon Boots and Tea
Speaker 2: Pain and do a fifty minute presentation on reinforced concrete.
Speaker 1: I mean, that'll be the hit of the day. It
Speaker 1: will it will close the festival. It will close the festival.
Speaker 1: As they say, everyone was just.
Speaker 2: All the confusion in the nudity, all the confusion and
Speaker 2: the nudity, it just ends.
Speaker 1: It's not an exodus. People are just going to start
Speaker 1: building homes right then and there. We're living here now,
Speaker 1: that's it, and this is our home. That's it.
Speaker 2: Now that we know how Dean's telling us about reinforced
Speaker 2: concrete samples, how to make fire, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all we need.
Speaker 2: All right, y'all. I am so glad that you were
Speaker 2: with us this morning. Thanks for joining us on the program.
Speaker 2: After a quick news break with Eileen, we're going to
Speaker 2: get back to it and we're going to go to
Speaker 2: the phones. It is an all call Saturday morning, plus
Speaker 2: a little bit of makeover magic wrinkled in in between.
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Speaker 2: welcome home.
Speaker 1: Good morning Dean, Good morning, sir. How can I help you?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 4: I just recently bought a house in the High Dos, Pacific, California,
Speaker 4: and I am looking to install a wood burning stove
Speaker 4: in this house. Now, I have done this myself. I
Speaker 4: do work in construction and I'm mechanically inclined. I've done
Speaker 4: it on older helms before where there was no attic.
Speaker 4: I would like to do this on my new house
Speaker 4: that has a tile roof and an attic. Can you
Speaker 4: give me some insight on how to remove the tile
Speaker 4: and what type of box I would need to go
Speaker 4: in the airspace between the room and the ceiling.
Speaker 2: Okay, so uh, when it comes to the attic space,
Speaker 2: here's the trick with woodburning.
Speaker 1: What what what city are you in? Technically it's a.
Speaker 4: Rural Serdanano County.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so sam Berne County. Right, So here's
Speaker 1: the trick.
Speaker 2: The California is always moving the the the goalposts when
Speaker 2: it comes to woodburning stoves, you know, because we've got
Speaker 2: such heavy regulations on fireplaces in general. You know, first
Speaker 2: it's like, well, only a prefabricated fireplace. Then it's like
Speaker 2: only gas burning, then it's only direct vent, and then
Speaker 2: there are certain types and woodburning stoves shockingly have not
Speaker 2: been uh you know, are basically there aren't any banned
Speaker 2: regulations across the state on woodburning stoves. But I have
Speaker 2: come to realize that every county, every city, has its
Speaker 2: own take on woodburning stoves and what it wants. And
Speaker 2: so I'm going to be with you and tell you
Speaker 2: that I'm not exactly sure where San Bernardino County is
Speaker 2: at right now.
Speaker 1: My guess is that they.
Speaker 2: Are one of the more liberal counties because of Big
Speaker 2: Bear and arrowhead and right wood and all of that
Speaker 2: stuff that I'm guessing they're one of the more liberal
Speaker 2: and permissive counties when it comes to woodburning stoves because
Speaker 2: they have so many applications in them. So I can
Speaker 2: just give you the general general gift. It's one thing
Speaker 2: to have a cabin and you're just shooting the stovepipe
Speaker 2: through the vaulted.
Speaker 1: Steiling and boom, you're on the roof. On the other side.
Speaker 2: There definitely are conditions for moving that the flu through
Speaker 2: an attic space, and I couldn't tell you exactly what
Speaker 2: they are for San Bernardino, but I'm telling you that
Speaker 2: what you're going to have is very It's kind of
Speaker 2: similar to a glorified recessed can housing regulation in the attic,
Speaker 2: and that is not just the double walled flu going
Speaker 2: through the attic space for the stove, but there will
Speaker 2: probably be required a shroud around it, a box shroud
Speaker 2: around it, so that in no way, shape or form,
Speaker 2: insulation or any other kind of substance or product in
Speaker 2: the attic can come anywhere near the heat from the
Speaker 2: flu pipe.
Speaker 1: And that's not a complex thing.
Speaker 2: It's just the nature of the beast when it comes
Speaker 2: to anything in our attics, right, hot things passing through
Speaker 2: our attics need to be double wald or triple walled
Speaker 2: so that insulation can come into direct contact with the
Speaker 2: outside sheath and not be heated up or with any
Speaker 2: threat of ignition. As far as popping through the roof
Speaker 2: your wood burning stove, the manufacturer is going to be
Speaker 2: providing you with the roof termination. There's going to be
Speaker 2: a cap, there's going to be a caller and a flashing,
Speaker 2: and you probably are not going to have to remove
Speaker 2: too many tiles around it. The key though, is to
Speaker 2: do that. I've seen some people just like really stupidly
Speaker 2: just slide a flashing down on top of the roofing
Speaker 2: material thinking that somehow that's going to work, and it's
Speaker 2: it's a disaster. So, yeah, you're gonna have to remove
Speaker 2: piles around where the penetration of the roof comes through.
Speaker 2: Then you're going to have to take that flashing and
Speaker 2: make sure it finds its way integrated into an underneath
Speaker 2: not just the tiles, but the roofing membrane, the underlayment paper.
Speaker 2: That's the real water seal flashing of any roof. So
Speaker 2: there's the process for integrating it underneath the paper and
Speaker 2: making sure that and these days it's really really super easy, Anthony,
Speaker 2: just because you know, we've got flashing materials that that
Speaker 2: and weather guard materials that will adhere down to the paper.
Speaker 2: You get underneath the lip of the course above, and
Speaker 2: then you shed out onto the course below, and then
Speaker 2: you can simply replace the tiles, pop the tiles back
Speaker 2: in and around give a little clat you I. You
Speaker 2: have to cut out a couple of the tiles to
Speaker 2: make room for the roundness of it. But apart from that,
Speaker 2: the roof termination is super easy. And with all chimneys,
Speaker 2: the code is that that chimney needs the top of
Speaker 2: that flu chimney on your roof needs to be twenty
Speaker 2: four inches higher than the nearest roof around it for
Speaker 2: ten in a ten foot radius. So that's how much
Speaker 2: flu you're gonna need to go sticking out of the roof.
Speaker 2: So if you measure from the roof, it's from the
Speaker 2: sorry from the flu itself as it comes through a
Speaker 2: horizontal flat line ten feet out. Okay, you need where
Speaker 2: ever ten feet touches the roof to that flu. You
Speaker 2: need to get twenty four inches above that, and that's
Speaker 2: your overall termination height. Those are the general rules, and
Speaker 2: San Bernardino County will tell you the specifics, so you
Speaker 2: call them up. They probably I wouldn't be shocked at
Speaker 2: all if San Bernino County doesn't have a I mean
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked. If they have a pul sheet
Speaker 2: specifically for woodburning stoves. They say, hey, we'll send you
Speaker 2: the PDF. These are the requirements because we get so
Speaker 2: many requests for it.
Speaker 1: Anyway, they'll tell.
Speaker 2: You everything you need to know and then you know,
Speaker 2: just stay within those boundaries. But yeah, your go now,
Speaker 2: is this a full wood burner or is it a
Speaker 2: standard wood burner as in logs or is this going
Speaker 2: to be a pellet stove?
Speaker 4: I would like a full standard wood burning stove.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are no restrictions to my knowledge
Speaker 2: whatsoever about that between you know, it's all woodburning pellet
Speaker 2: or you know, the pellets are more efficient, but they're
Speaker 2: less uh, they're less fun to look at, and the
Speaker 2: woodburners are just I adore woodburning stoves. Whenever we're going
Speaker 2: to an area like that and we're gonna airbnb or
Speaker 2: verbo a place I'm always looking around, I would much
Speaker 2: rather find a cabin with a woodburning stove than one
Speaker 2: with just a standard fireplace. It's just our preference. We
Speaker 2: just dig it. So Anthony, good luck, good luck.
Speaker 4: My friend, Thank you, Gane having a good weekend.
Speaker 2: YouTube my friend YouTube. All right, we're off to the races.
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Speaker 2: I want to talk to Grace. Hey, Grace, welcome home.
Speaker 5: Good morning, Deane.
Speaker 1: Good morning. How can I help you?
Speaker 5: Last week you mentioned of self feeling underlayment to go
Speaker 5: underneath your of shingles on a roof.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 5: I've been to two miners and two home depots and
Speaker 5: they don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're a brand that I can tell them.
Speaker 2: Uh ah, I'm telling you. There was a day Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put on my old man vote.
Speaker 1: There was a day.
Speaker 5: When yeah, I got it, you know.
Speaker 2: They My father in law worked for Home Depot for
Speaker 2: a number of years when I first met and married Tina,
Speaker 2: and uh, there was a day when home and lows
Speaker 2: well I don't know, I can't speak for loads, but
Speaker 2: when Home Depot used to hire retired contractors and builders. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they would say, oh, you're a roofer, then of
Speaker 2: course you're going to work in the roofing section and
Speaker 2: so on. Now I think they're just hiring kids who
Speaker 2: were flipping burgers last week, and so all right, all right,
Speaker 2: all right, So yeah, that's a frustration, but they've still
Speaker 2: got it. Uh if they only knew. I mean, literally
Speaker 2: half of their roofing materials are what we're talking about
Speaker 2: only half of them. So so okay, Grace, here you go, Bran, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. You ready to write the down And here's
Speaker 2: the thing. Look this up online and the home depot
Speaker 2: website before you go in, so you can just tell them. Look,
Speaker 2: it's right here, Grace, Grace.
Speaker 1: Not no, not you.
Speaker 2: The brand name. You're not gonna forget this. The brand
Speaker 2: name is Grace. Okay, that's the company, Grace.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just pulled up their website and I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at, for instance, Grace Ice and water Shield.
Speaker 5: Okay, Ice and water Shield.
Speaker 2: Okay, w R Grace or GCP Applied Tech. Now it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Just Grace Ice and water Shield. Uh it is.
Speaker 1: Let's see what does it say.
Speaker 2: It says protects against ice dams and wind driven rain forms,
Speaker 2: superior water tight laps and seals around fasteners, self ceiling material.
Speaker 2: So now, now, my friend, the only thing I want
Speaker 2: to warn you about because you're gonna be talking to experts.
Speaker 2: There's two versions of self sealing underlayment.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The one version is called that it says it has
Speaker 2: a mineral surface on it. Okay, you've got tile, right,
Speaker 2: you're putting tile down? Are you're putting regular shingles down
Speaker 2: on your roof shingles?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So what that means when it says that there is
Speaker 2: a mineralized surface or a mineral surface, you don't want
Speaker 2: that one, Okay, don't let them tell you that one,
Speaker 2: because that one is like for a flat roof where
Speaker 2: there's nothing going on top of it and had has
Speaker 2: all those little rocky pebbles adhered to it.
Speaker 1: Right, you don't want.
Speaker 2: The mineralized surface. You just want the one that doesn't
Speaker 2: say that that's pure slick. And you know what, opened
Speaker 2: the top of the Open the top of the box
Speaker 2: and reach in there and you'll see that it's sticky
Speaker 2: on one side, there's a pealing thing, and then it's
Speaker 2: just like smooth vinyl on the other. That's what you're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, thank you so much. I appreciate you beyondwards.
Speaker 1: Oh you're so sweet.
Speaker 2: Thank you, grace, good luck, good luck with those thanks
Speaker 2: you at the big box store.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, more of your calls.
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Speaker 2: this morning. Let's go back to the phones. I want
Speaker 2: to talk to George. Hey, George, welcome home.
Speaker 3: Solo.
Speaker 1: Hey, I caught you off card got your sleep and George.
Speaker 3: Yeah you did. I have a question. I've been a
Speaker 3: long time listener of yours and I'm reading modeling my
Speaker 3: home and you said something about can lighting versus lamps.
Speaker 1: Yes, my house, we use.
Speaker 3: A law of lambs. I guess I'm kind of tired
Speaker 3: of the lambs. I'm gonna put can lighting. Well, what's
Speaker 3: your opinion about that? Or you know In the nineteen eighties,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna try to major eboli and maybe I'm
Speaker 3: out put some can lighting still lamps, because we we
Speaker 3: had lamps all this time.
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. I hear you.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, let me get my uh,
Speaker 2: let me get my soapbox out here. Hang on, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I gotta get up on it here. It's not as
Speaker 2: easy as it used to be.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So I am so misunderstood when it comes. It's probably
Speaker 2: my fault. I mean, it's my job to communicate things.
Speaker 2: But I am so misunderstood, my friend, when it comes
Speaker 2: to uh, to recessed lighting. And I got a little
Speaker 2: feedback on your line, George, so I'm popping on.
Speaker 1: Hold. I know you can still hear me. I am
Speaker 1: not in any way, shape or.
Speaker 2: Form against recessed can lighting, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 2: But I am against the overuse and the misuse of
Speaker 2: recess can lighting. And no, I have never said that
Speaker 2: there should be no recess can lights in the living
Speaker 2: room or in a bedroom or anything like that, even
Speaker 2: though it is my preference, and it is true in
Speaker 2: romantic space, it is my preference to light things in
Speaker 2: those spaces as much as possible with lamps, up lights,
Speaker 2: down lamps, reading lamps, whatever, because they provide a better
Speaker 2: ambient light. But but, but but in my very own home,
Speaker 2: I have recess lighting in the living room and a
Speaker 2: little bit in the bedroom. But in line with my
Speaker 2: philosophy on lighting, which if you talk to real lighting
Speaker 2: designers like myself or somebody who simply makes their living
Speaker 2: as a lighting designer, they will tell you the same thing. Now,
Speaker 2: electricians are not lighting designers, and some are very very
Speaker 2: talented at it, by the way, but you shouldn't assume
Speaker 2: that electrician is a lighting designer. Electrician simply lay things
Speaker 2: out the way it seems best to them. Just like
Speaker 2: contractors are not architects. Electrician is a contractor electrical contractor.
Speaker 2: You don't expect them to be a lighting designer. So
Speaker 2: with that given, I would like to restate my theory
Speaker 2: on recess can light use in the home and lighting design.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, we're kind of up against a
Speaker 2: break and so I want to not rush through it
Speaker 2: so everybody can hear me discuss it. And I know
Speaker 2: it's of interest to most people because these days you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's just put a recess light in, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to explain very very simply what the theory is. And
Speaker 2: if you hang on to it, you aren't going to
Speaker 2: screw it up. And you're going to get to put
Speaker 2: in the recess can lights like you want George to
Speaker 2: minimize because when you're fully lamp dependent, I know, chords
Speaker 2: on the floor, it can be it can be a thing.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: Uh So do this favor for me, my friend. I'm
Speaker 2: going to keep you on hold here. We're going to
Speaker 2: get through our news break, and when I come back,
Speaker 2: everybody who is listening, I'm going to tell you why
Speaker 2: recess can lights, how recess canlights in your home and where?
Speaker 1: How? Why? And where is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll do it. We'll do it right
Speaker 2: after the news. You are listening to Dean Sharp The
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