1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,919 Speaker 1: What is up, fella Sicko's I am Dan for Valley 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,080 coming at you with the one, the only, the certified, 3 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:16,800 fancabulous mister Grant Hughes. We're here the penn Ultimate Hardwood 4 00:00:16,839 --> 00:00:21,000 Knox NBA Trade Deadline Primer Podcast. Onto the Houston Rockets 5 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:23,120 we just have them, and then the Dallas Mavericks after that. 6 00:00:23,559 --> 00:00:26,920 Just as a reminder, one definitely subscribe across all platforms 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,679 if you haven't already, but go bounce around. We have 8 00:00:28,879 --> 00:00:32,039 episodes like this for all thirty teams. Some of them 9 00:00:32,039 --> 00:00:34,799 got refreshers. 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Grant, 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,200 Before we dive into the Houston Rockets trade deadline vitals, 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,079 how the heck are you doing? 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing well if I would just like to say, 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 I will not be doing well if Houston and Dallas. 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Who's the other team we're gonna do if they get 20 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:05,280 Agent of trade before like Thursday, at the eleventh hour, 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,359 we riot because or we just do nothing because we're 22 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:09,439 not going to redo these. 23 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: As we're peaked on the cars, we're recording this. This 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,280 is going to be going up like within a couple hours. 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: Like I'm done. I've been posting multiples a day. 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: It's we're past the whole decorum of let's space these out. 27 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: So because also they're useless after Thursday, so they they 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,519 have to breathe all that. Well, you know what, you 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,920 get bonus points as a listener if you listen to 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,159 any of these trade deadline primers after the actual trade deadline. 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,719 Speaker 1: Because I think if your team doesn't make a move 32 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:39,840 and the stuff we then talk about, like some of them, 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,319 I still believe will be your Maine. 34 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: Okay, look at you just I'm trying to just devalue 35 00:01:45,359 --> 00:01:48,400 the content and you're saving it. That's that's why you're 36 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:48,719 a hero. 37 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:52,959 Speaker 1: Let's go into the Houston Rockets trade deadline vitals. So 38 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:57,439 they are about one point two five million dollars below 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,799 the first apron, which they cannot go over, and they're 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,680 xo point eight million dollars over the tax in total. 41 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:04,519 Just noting that number because maybe they want to duck 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,879 it next year though this is this also matters sixteen 43 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:10,240 point eight million dollars under the tax as of now. 44 00:02:11,319 --> 00:02:15,520 That's without paying Tarisan, who's undering restricted free agency. Their 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,000 twenty twenty six first is going to the Oklahoma City 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,520 Thunder or Washington Wizards. They do have all their own 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,599 first rounders thereafter. In terms of extra obligations, they have 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,639 swap rights with Brooklyn in twenty twenty seven. They have 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,039 Phoenixes twenty twenty seven first, and then in twenty twenty 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,520 nine they have two first round picks. They'll be the 51 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,000 two most favorable of Dallas, Phoenix's and Houston's own. The 52 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:41,639 only notable trade exception they have Cam Whitmore that expires 53 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:44,800 July sixth, though, so they're not really obligated to use that. 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,719 I miss anything with their vitals, Grant. 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: I think you're good, but as we've discussed the off, Mike, 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,400 I'm if you didn't catch it, I'm probably not gonna 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,240 catch it. If there's anything missing there. I did bump on. 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,520 I know this isn't I guess this maybe is kind 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,599 of the first thing to discuss, but uh, you mentioned 60 00:03:03,199 --> 00:03:06,400 their distance from the tax line this season with a 61 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,280 very casual in case they want to duck it, uh, 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,680 or how are Rockets fans gonna feel if their team 63 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:15,719 goes into the deadline with the goal of ducking the 64 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:17,919 tax I wonder? I'm not asking you to speak for them, 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,199 but isn't that that bumped? I bumped a little bit 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,280 on that idea. 67 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,159 Speaker 1: It's Here's the thing is, you could look at it 68 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:27,080 one of two ways is that they're about to get 69 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:30,879 a lot more expensive, and so why start in fury 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,960 the repeater clock because that could accelerate them making any decisions. 71 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,759 But I also think it's fair to say they traded 72 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:40,879 for Kevin Durant over the summer timelines. You know, if 73 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:42,759 we're worried about missing the tax this year, to not 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,879 start the repeater Clark clock, we're talking about a three 75 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,639 or four year timeline horizon essentially, right, windows just don't 76 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:51,919 last that long anymore. And so if you think you 77 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:55,080 have a chance at winning the title, which the Rockets do, 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,919 maybe not as currently constructed, but the Rockets certainly do 79 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:02,000 that if if it's an offshoot, a byproduct of making 80 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:05,159 another move, but it would be a bummer because you 81 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:08,360 I don't first of all, the tax bill is just whatever. 82 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,280 At this point, it would be a bummer to say, oh, 83 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:12,759 we didn't get better, we duck the tax, knowing that 84 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:15,000 this isn't going to be the team. You are all 85 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:16,360 these guys going to be on the team in two 86 00:04:16,439 --> 00:04:17,800 years anyway, The answer is no. 87 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:21,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing is I feel like, you know, 88 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,199 these cycles accelerate a little bit. But we've kind of 89 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,199 been saying like the rockets are gonna get expensive pretty 90 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,879 soon for a couple years, like dating back to I 91 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:33,040 don't know, like the Jalen Green draft class like that, 92 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:36,079 which which is like a while ago in like roster 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,160 building terms, and so, yeah, they've got Reed Shepherd eventually 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,279 is gonna need his extension. Jabari Smith's already got it. 95 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:44,519 Thompson is probably the most pressing one. But they have 96 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,800 so far figured out how to navigate like a very 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,360 good problem of we're drafting guys that come with high 98 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,759 starting salaries by virtue of where they've been selected, and 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,759 then like tend to play well enough to get paid. 100 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,040 They've done well to pay the those guys a lot 101 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,600 less than probably many would have expected ultimately and or 102 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,879 move them for the Kevin Durance of the world. So 103 00:05:07,639 --> 00:05:10,040 I do. It is like we have to discuss it, 104 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,079 and part of the reason I brought it up because 105 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:15,199 it is important, But like they've navigated that pretty well 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,800 so far, so maybe they get a little benefit of 107 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,720 the doubt. It's right where if like they do make 108 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:21,720 a move that ducks attacks, it's like, all right, well 109 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,079 so far they've done pretty well with that kind of thing. 110 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,519 Speaker 3: And I would probably not be more. 111 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't embrace it more, but I would feel like 112 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,079 it was more likely they looked to duck attacks if 113 00:05:31,079 --> 00:05:34,040 Steven Adams doesn't get injured, because then you don't need 114 00:05:34,079 --> 00:05:36,600 the idea of and even like Alprin Shangoon what was 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,319 it the other night tweaked his back or whatever it was, 116 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,439 can't remember, like just to have that insurance. 117 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: And this is. 118 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Something because all these guys are on multi year deals. Doring, 119 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,360 Finney Smith, Clint Capella, do you have the ability to 120 00:05:49,439 --> 00:05:50,759 duck attacks around the draft? 121 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: Too? 122 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: So it could be we go to the draft, maybe 123 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:55,319 we'll see how the playoffs end if there's an opportunity there. 124 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,639 So if I didn't make a prediction, I'm not saying 125 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:01,600 they won't shave salary, but ducking the tax will not 126 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,120 be the most notable thing they do. If they do it, 127 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,560 I think they've pulled off some other type of yeah, 128 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,879 just move and it happens. 129 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: Right. It could be like a two birds, one stone 130 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,439 thing where they actually do go address the need somehow, 131 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,639 because again they have the assets, they have some of 132 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:19,319 those picked there, there's some sweeteners here, there's some movable contracts, 133 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,279 all kinds of things. So yeah, ducking attacks should not 134 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,439 be priority one, but it might be a nice little 135 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,639 addition to something else they do. By the way, I 136 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:31,720 think we were aligned in like the Clint Capella really well, 137 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,079 now that looks pretty good, like pretty planning fellas, so 138 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,040 that that has nothing to do with this trade deadline. 139 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,279 It's just the Steve Adams injury kind of sheds light on, like, maeah, 140 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,360 that was pretty shrewd. We didn't understand it at the time. 141 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that the Steven Stevens Steven Adams injury 142 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,560 is going to change their approach at all? Should the 143 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,879 Rockets be looked because having Clint Coppel the way they 144 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:57,000 want to play, Having Clint Coppella, Albrin Shangoun, Jabari Smith 145 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:00,399 Junior is just your primary. Do you want another bigy 146 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:02,480 they or at least a big who's better than Clint Capella. 147 00:07:04,399 --> 00:07:07,879 Speaker 2: I think it makes it a priority, but I don't 148 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,120 know that it would be. It can't. I don't think 149 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,720 it fundamentally changes what they'll do because you mentioned the 150 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:17,160 guys like if you have Shanouon and Capella and Jabari 151 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:21,560 Smith and I'm and Thompson is a four, they can 152 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:25,399 if anything, maybe they go get a really dirt cheap 153 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:27,759 center or something like that. Or I mean the level 154 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,120 of guy that you're like, this is almost indistinctible from 155 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,240 someone you call it from the G League just eat 156 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,519 a few minutes, Like losing Adams is a big deal, 157 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:37,800 like one to their identity too, to just their overall production, 158 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:41,480 like he was a very very good piece for them 159 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:44,480 that did stuff like You're not whoever you go out 160 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,279 and get is not going to replicate what Adam was 161 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:47,879 doing for you because he's kind of like other than 162 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:51,199 Mitchell Robinson, he's kind of he's he's unique. But yeah, 163 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:53,519 I think it could affect things. I just it can't 164 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,079 be like anywhere close to the top of their list, 165 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,279 right or unless you disagree. 166 00:07:58,199 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: No, I mean I would be curious if the cost 167 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:04,720 was seconds Eves Mezy might be a nice replacement just 168 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,839 because of what he does on the offensive glass too, 169 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,519 But like if the Pelicans want a first round pick 170 00:08:10,519 --> 00:08:12,160 for him, I'm not going out and like a day 171 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,439 run Sharp, that'd be an interesting fit here, but it 172 00:08:14,439 --> 00:08:16,920 would almost be Oh, can I attach stuff to Clan 173 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:20,000 Capella to get these guys then, because I'm not looking 174 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,759 to But no, it shouldn't be unless now I think 175 00:08:23,759 --> 00:08:26,439 that changes if we're talking about in Adams and are 176 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,879 you worried about shang Gun at all? 177 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,519 Speaker 3: Then that conversation changes a bunch. 178 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,959 Speaker 1: But at that point you might just have to look 179 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,440 at roster And I don't know if this is the 180 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:39,600 year right, here's here's the big one though? Should they 181 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,519 be a ya, honest suitor? 182 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:44,639 Speaker 2: So I'm with two minds on this. I'mous, we haven't 183 00:08:44,639 --> 00:08:46,879 talked about this. I'm curious where you are. One is 184 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:51,519 kind of like zoomed all the way out. Well, yes, absolutely, 185 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:54,960 because they do have They could put a very compelling 186 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,039 package on the table for him. They can market to 187 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,519 him like we have Kevin Durant here. Uh, that's you're 188 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,519 interested in that, correct? Like we can contend, especially if 189 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:07,799 you're here, we kind of need another big in the rotation. 190 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,000 I'm interested in some gyanis at center, aren't you like that? That? Like, 191 00:09:12,039 --> 00:09:14,919 of course, right, and you've already accelerated your timeline with 192 00:09:14,919 --> 00:09:17,320 the Durant trade, so you're clearly clearly open to this 193 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,799 kind of move. That's the stepped back perspective. But then 194 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,559 you look at the team and you're like, is that 195 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:27,679 is Yiannis at all the type of player they need? 196 00:09:27,759 --> 00:09:30,879 And to me, other than maybe you can use him 197 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:34,240 as your primary initiator, I think the spacing concerns, I 198 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,840 think the overlap with guys like Thompson and Shangoon, there's 199 00:09:36,879 --> 00:09:39,240 those are real kind of like fit issues that arise 200 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,039 with him, and a lot's been made of how like 201 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:45,320 he's not the easiest guy to build around, Like there's 202 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,080 certain things you've got to like the spacing big has 203 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,759 always been a must, and maybe that's Jabari Smith. I 204 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:53,120 don't know. Maybe Durant qualifies as that in a weird 205 00:09:53,639 --> 00:09:56,000 kind of inverted way where Giannis is actually the center. 206 00:09:57,279 --> 00:09:59,559 I think the short answer is, yeah, it's weird that 207 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,240 they're not in that core four of suitors that everybody 208 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,519 has mentioned. But I guess the reasoning is just on 209 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,200 their end, like it's not an ideal fit. We kind 210 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,679 of already took our shot on a veteran. I don't 211 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,799 know where are you on that. 212 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: I I don't love the fit with Yannis. 213 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:18,519 Speaker 3: I just don't think he does. 214 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,879 Speaker 1: And not like you have Amen Thompson and even you 215 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:24,600 have Alprin Shangoun, we're throwing another spacing variable in here. 216 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:27,120 And also if you don't want to give up Amen Thompson. 217 00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:29,399 So now we're punting on the idea of reach Shepherd 218 00:10:29,399 --> 00:10:31,399 because then he thought, because you're not training Jabari Smith 219 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,600 because of the poison pill. So now you don't have 220 00:10:34,639 --> 00:10:37,879 bred Van Fleet, you don't have Reed Shepherd. Kevin Durant 221 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:41,639 is just your lone like multi level because i'men Thompson 222 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,679 is just not a threat from the perimeter. Giannis is 223 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,840 even when the mid range is falling. It's different. 224 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:48,919 Speaker 2: I know I was the one that mentioned his name, 225 00:10:49,039 --> 00:10:52,600 but I should have like Thompson is in that deal, right, 226 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:54,480 Like doesn't that seem like. 227 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know because the way I know, the Warriors 228 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,320 have four first round picks, but there's no blue chip 229 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,159 guy in there. The heat they're offer right now is 230 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:05,360 built around two first round picks and khalil Ware. Just 231 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:07,799 the rumors saying like the Timberwolves and the Knicks are 232 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:10,879 among the top four suitors. It's who's they keep saying 233 00:11:10,919 --> 00:11:13,000 like Jade McDaniels will get you a haul. 234 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, is he. 235 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: Gonna get you three first round picks? Is oh, gad 236 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:19,240 and O be gonna get you? So if Milwaukee's actually 237 00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:21,919 considering moving him mid season, I don't know. If you're 238 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,039 the Rockets, if you want to put picks on the table, 239 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,919 does Aman Thompson need to be Like I think Reed 240 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Shepherd is better than any single young player that's on 241 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,879 the table for you right now. 242 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: Well, well we know you think that, damn, but you're 243 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,720 not You're also not wrong. I was just thinking, like, 244 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,919 I don't know, Thompson and Jannis are just watching that 245 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,200 Rocket Spurs game the other day where it's like you 246 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,759 can like Thompson is just not getting guarded a lot now, 247 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,639 and it's like that's I don't know, man, that's that's 248 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:54,360 a tough one, and his value to the buck should 249 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,440 be I take your point, though, It's like you may 250 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,440 not even have to throw him in there. If if 251 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,759 like you can do it with Shephard and whoever else, 252 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:01,399 I just. 253 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:01,799 Speaker 3: Don't think it. 254 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: If it's them, they're the team I think, along with 255 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,080 the Spurs. 256 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: And then maybe the Spurs. 257 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: Are the one that's like, why aren't you in this? 258 00:12:08,919 --> 00:12:10,240 You know my whole thing. 259 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,279 Speaker 1: Sure, I think the Spurs would be I'm having a 260 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,399 longer conversation about it than Houston right now. But I 261 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,919 even look at the Spurs and the Rockets and it's 262 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,519 just like, go through the playoffs and see because first 263 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:23,720 of all, if they're because I think the Bucks will 264 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,519 want to wait and see, oh, can we get Aman Thompson, 265 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,679 Can we get Reach Shepherd? Can we get Steph Castle 266 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:31,960 or Dylan Harper. So I don't think he's gonna get 267 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,679 moved by the deadline. Maybe I'll look like a fool 268 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,600 and they end up sending him for just, you know, 269 00:12:36,279 --> 00:12:38,679 a bag of chips that the Timberwolves can offer or 270 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,519 the Knicks can offer. 271 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 272 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: But if I'm the Rockets, I'm just not itching to 273 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:45,679 do it. And look, part of it is I guess 274 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,039 he does improve your offense, but I don't know. The 275 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,879 spacing would just be so weird, And after looking at 276 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,120 Houston after a really great start with their first chance 277 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,240 defense this year, they were like seventh or third at 278 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,120 one point. They're now seventeenth, right like, which feels right, 279 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,080 but given the personnel, it feels like, okay, that makes 280 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,759 more sense. And you're also when you watch them in 281 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:13,919 crunch time, like you really just feel the lack of optionality. Now, 282 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:15,519 I think there's been some points where I wonder why 283 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,279 you Mayudoka hasn't meaned on Reeepherd more, but we both 284 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:18,919 know that I'm. 285 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: Going to go there anyway. 286 00:13:19,879 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: The Rockets are twentieth in crunch time offense for the season, 287 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,759 and they're twenty fourth since December first, the threes. 288 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: We caught a lot of shit. 289 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: From Rockets fans when we said that we thought their 290 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,879 shooting start to the season was unsustainable bottom ten of 291 00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:37,320 three point shooting since December first. As well, this is like, 292 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,840 those are the needs and I don't know that. I 293 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,600 guess when you're holistically, Giannis makes you better offensively, but 294 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:46,000 with the pieces that are already in place, he just 295 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,360 feels a little too duplicative for me. And if I'm 296 00:13:49,399 --> 00:13:53,399 the Rockets, I'm looking more for complimentary pieces than this 297 00:13:53,759 --> 00:13:55,960 defining player at this moment. 298 00:13:56,159 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, I think that's right. It's just like I guess 299 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:05,279 if you're Houston, you could convince yourself of the idea that, well, 300 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:09,600 we built this team knowing like we're gonna win the 301 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,639 possession battle with offensive rebounds. Our first chance offense doesn't 302 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:14,279 need to be that good because we're gonna be huge 303 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,840 and we're gonna generate offense in all these like sort 304 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:20,000 of secondary ways. If we throw Giannis into this mix, 305 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:22,240 we do the same thing because now our transition attack 306 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:24,360 has this crazy new weapon, and like, we're not gonna 307 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,720 get worse on the offensive glass with Giannis out there 308 00:14:26,759 --> 00:14:30,320 just constantly being under the rim and missing close range 309 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,720 shots which yield offensive rebounds. All that you can talk 310 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,480 yourself into all that, and then and yet I'm still 311 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,600 with you that like it just isn't If you do 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,840 bring Giannis in, it almost necessarily means I mean, which 313 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:47,080 it should, because he's the best player of any of 314 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,879 the names. I'm gonna mention that, like you're moving or 315 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:54,919 devaluing or reconsidering how you use Thompson shngon like all 316 00:14:54,919 --> 00:14:59,480 these other non spacing pieces, because you just can't. You 317 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:04,000 can't have like Thompson, Jannis Shngoon, I don't know fucking 318 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,240 another center, because why not on the. 319 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:09,519 Speaker 3: Real I'm just Jabbari will at least be. 320 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:12,519 Speaker 2: You know, he's he's like the lynchpin of that of 321 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:15,919 that hypothetical right, because it's like you guess you you're 322 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,679 like the only prime spacer assuming we've traded Reed Shepherd 323 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,120 and and Tari Easton is not actually as good a 324 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,799 shooter as he appears to you know, like it's just 325 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:27,399 it's a little clunky, which is because normally you just say, 326 00:15:27,399 --> 00:15:29,480 go get him, but it's not quite that easy. 327 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:32,039 Speaker 1: And this is gonna seem counterintuitive because when we start 328 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:34,600 throwing out targets in a minute, like I think the 329 00:15:34,679 --> 00:15:37,159 rockets you need to be. You traded for Kevin Durant, 330 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,679 who's in his age thirty seven season. So we're sitting 331 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:42,159 here telling them not to trade for Yannis. But you also, 332 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,279 this isn't well, let's wait and see what happens. 333 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: Mode. 334 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: I know you didn't give up a ton for Kevin Durant, 335 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,519 but there's an implicit urgency by acquiring him. I wanted 336 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:53,399 to ask you, though, Let's say you are making a 337 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,679 Yannis trade mid season. You is is there any part 338 00:15:57,679 --> 00:16:00,679 of you as the rockets that would prefer just asking 339 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:06,480 questions everybody to give up Aman Thompson or Shangon instead 340 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:09,039 of Rea Shepherd, or to just make it a little 341 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,720 less spicy if you had to give up Aman Thompson 342 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,039 or shang Goon, Which one of those are you picking 343 00:16:16,039 --> 00:16:16,799 as the rocket? 344 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:21,279 Speaker 2: Honestly, that's just between those two. It gets really tough. 345 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,399 You're catching me at a moment where I am. I 346 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,399 am less high on Thompson than I've been in a 347 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,559 long time, just because it's we're at what the two 348 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:35,759 thirds mark of the season or something close to it, 349 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,759 and the shot is just like it we're getting to 350 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:40,360 the point where it's like it may never be there. 351 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,799 And if it's never gonna be there, what do you 352 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:46,480 have in this player? And again, that Spurs game is 353 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:48,120 fresh in my mind. There have been a few others 354 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:51,279 where it's like, if you're a smart enough defense, you 355 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,559 can ignore him and go. You know, basically, it's different 356 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,000 when it's Wemby that's quote unquote guarding him and just 357 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,720 roaming because he's not afraid of a catching or anything 358 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:01,080 like that. 359 00:17:01,559 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: What does it say that Steph Castle is allowed to 360 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,480 guard Shang Gun though, is that we want to Shangun or. 361 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: That's no, that's Steph Castle is a boss, is what 362 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,880 that is? Because he also guarded Durant in that same game, 363 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,519 like within a five minute span and was just incredible. 364 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:20,400 I love that guy. Uh So I might lean Thompson 365 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,079 because again, if you're trying to preserve some offense, like 366 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,160 I don't know, Shang Guon's a better hub, right, Like 367 00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:30,519 you're sacrificing one of the best, maybe the best perimeter 368 00:17:30,599 --> 00:17:34,079 defenders in the league in Thompson. But if that's all 369 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,039 he is, and he's just a player that you can 370 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,319 cheat away fromm on the other end, like that's a 371 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,039 problem in the types of games you want to play 372 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,599 as the Rockets by virtue of having Durant and Giannis, 373 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,319 and it's hypothetical like that he's he's an exploitable weak 374 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,359 point in some ways. 375 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: I think you're right, But my caveat would be I've 376 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,440 become incredibly worried about all of a sudden, you're very 377 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,279 reliant on dfs, Josha Koge and Target like those guys 378 00:18:02,319 --> 00:18:06,079 off there, because your best on ball defender is Amed Thompson, Right, Sure, 379 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,240 So you have Giannis doesn't like, shouldn't be doing that stuff. 380 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,920 So you have guys in theory who could but the 381 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,200 idea of just being behold into like yeah, we need 382 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:17,920 Josha Koge to continue to cook. Yes, that's that's iffy, 383 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:21,319 But you're gonna run to the same defenses. Are gonna 384 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:23,680 treat Josha Kogy like more of a shooter than they 385 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:24,960 do Amed Thompson. 386 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: Which is crazy, Like that's where we are, you know, Yeah, 387 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:30,160 that's it's tough. I wouldn't want to trade either of them. 388 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,440 I'm not like giving up on Thompson. I'm just like, 389 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:37,480 I'm I'm logging some some renewed concern that like maybe 390 00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:38,920 maybe this is gonna be an issue. 391 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: So what are the Rockets is? It's not, Yannest, We've 392 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,079 decided it's not their biggest need. What is their biggest need? 393 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean it's it again, like when you look at 394 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,880 the full season numbers, it's like, oh, that's that offense 395 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,440 is still pretty good. It is just someone that gives 396 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,359 them more of a shooting threat on the ball to 397 00:18:58,599 --> 00:19:01,039 initiate pick and rolls. We're kind of just describing Fred 398 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,119 van Vliet in a lot of ways. Here so in 399 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,240 which he and he should have been. You know, he 400 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,519 is on this team. He's just not capable of playing 401 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:10,160 at the moment. But that type of player, isn't it? 402 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,759 Like I don't. I don't know where else I would 403 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:13,839 even go for a close second, It's just give me 404 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,759 someone that I can put the ball in his hands. 405 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,480 Defenses can't go under screens without being punished for it. 406 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:21,920 He's gonna keep the ball moving a little bit. This 407 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:25,359 might also be like describing the optimized version of Reed 408 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,279 Shepherd in a year or two. That's the other thing. 409 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,079 So it's that player type to me, I don't even 410 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,200 do you agree? Is do you have another concern? 411 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:35,599 Speaker 3: I agree with that player type. 412 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: I think they if you can't go out and get 413 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,240 that player type, who's actually gonna be in your postseason rotation? 414 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: I think And I've been a big and I've know 415 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:43,640 I've said this. 416 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: Teaven Pass a big advocate of sometimes spacing can paper 417 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,720 over that lack of shock creation just by giving other 418 00:19:49,759 --> 00:19:52,359 guys more room. And I think the Rockets, if they 419 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,680 can't get someone who can score off the dribble and 420 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,559 put pressure on defenses off the dribble from beyond the 421 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,400 arc if you just have a lights out shooter in 422 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,400 there that you're confident enough in playing. I mean, since 423 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,400 the Turn of the Calendar is a perfect example. They 424 00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:10,839 have nine players taking no excuse me, they have ten 425 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,440 players taking at least one three point to ten per game. 426 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,400 I'm not gonnaclue Jeff Greed in there, he's barely played. 427 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,559 Only one of them is shooting better that two of 428 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:22,640 them are shooting better than thirty five percent from three 429 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Kevin Durant. Of course, antari Ethan, who's just been on 430 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:28,519 fire all year. So you need to just be able 431 00:20:28,519 --> 00:20:32,200 to better navicate. Oh Dafes in his twelve games is 432 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,920 shot under twenty five percent or read Shepherd's under thirty 433 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,400 five percent. 434 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: That's not great for my guy. 435 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: Jubari Smith looks like his shot came alive the other night, 436 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,279 but he's sub thirty percent. Yea during this stretch like 437 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:44,599 that list kind of even Josha Koge cooled off during 438 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,799 this span, So I I think you could go so 439 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,519 someone like I think what you're describing would be more 440 00:20:51,519 --> 00:20:54,799 of a guard because you mentioned Fred van Fleet's name, Yeah, 441 00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:57,960 and that's like what is the You're not looking at 442 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,640 a big name then if that's what you're looking more 443 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,839 at Kobe White, that might say the name that would be. 444 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: So I was gonna ask you, like, sorry, it's like 445 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,279 the guy I'm describing as the Kobe White type you're 446 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,680 and I don't think you're wrong. I think there are 447 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,599 kind of more there's more than one way to address this. 448 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,960 You're thinking more of like a pure shooter and you 449 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:18,680 almost don't care what position that is. 450 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:23,839 Speaker 1: Right, it's will because the rockets have fungibility positionally just 451 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,119 because of like what all their different guys do. My 452 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,160 question would be, will can this guy? Because we know 453 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,400 the playoffs now are all about minimizing your weaknesses, and 454 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,279 so the question can become will this guy be on 455 00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:39,400 the floor. That doesn't necessarily have to be for crunch time, 456 00:21:39,759 --> 00:21:43,079 but will this guy play at least fifteen to twenty 457 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,720 minutes in the playoffs? 458 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: I think has to be the question that they're asking themselves. 459 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:50,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're not interested in buddy healed? Is what 460 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:51,880 what I'm taking from you. 461 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: No, it's not, And it wouldn't be like a like 462 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,519 a Duncan Robinson situation. 463 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, like it's clear how much is Cleveland 464 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,400 looking at cost? 465 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: Sam Merril, like he could stay on the floor in 466 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,039 the playoffs for them, that'd be that'd be five alarm fire. 467 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,680 Sam Houser doesn't do it for me quite like he 468 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,440 would help during the regular season. I don't know how 469 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,880 much he's playing in the playoffs, so maybe a bar 470 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,519 above Sam Hauser. 471 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if this is I don't know what 472 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,160 you're doing to to not go way over the tax 473 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,519 here and the Celtics maybe aren't selling. But like Simons 474 00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:27,519 even would be someone that would make sense. It's just 475 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:29,680 he's too He's I don't know who you're sending out. 476 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: Well, you could send out Fred van Vliet, he has 477 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,359 veto rights, but would he mind going to the Celtics. 478 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,559 Speaker 3: Yes, well that's the other thing. 479 00:22:35,599 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound I haven't heard any real rumblings on 480 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,359 it lately, but like, isn't there a case to be 481 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,200 made that, like if you think Van Vliet might be 482 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,640 capable of giving you twenty minutes in the playoffs, like 483 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:47,519 you just keep the batter dry, you. 484 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: Know, could they get to Michael Porter Junior's money? 485 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, I mean yeah, that's the thing with 486 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:57,599 the Rockets. The answer is always gonna be yeah, it's 487 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,160 just what are you so you can't give up? 488 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: Would you get no? No, no, I was gonna ask 489 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,480 would you give up? Because they could fit it into 490 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:11,920 their structure. Jabbari Smith Junior for Michael Porter Jr. 491 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,079 Speaker 2: Hmmm, Man, I love I mean, I don't know. I 492 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,960 love Smith. I love the contract. I like the he's 493 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:28,039 still so young gives you you would or wouldn't wouldn't. 494 00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:32,119 I think if the Rockets were like it's almost like 495 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,119 if you were a little better and it was very 496 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,039 clear that this was the put you over the top 497 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:39,559 move and and MPJ had like a slightly longer track 498 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,359 record of like this kind of volume and and and that, 499 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,200 maybe I'd think harder. 500 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,079 Speaker 3: I don't know. 501 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: I think I might be more open to it than 502 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,480 you would. 503 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: But if he if he wasn't too Yeah, if he 504 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:53,880 wasn't on the poison pill, maybe I'd be more open 505 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,440 to because then you have to send to other players 506 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,359 out as the Rockets. Now, let's say van Fleet is 507 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,240 willing to to you know, like except a trade to Brooklyn. 508 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,079 They have the rights, like would you give the swap 509 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,160 back to Brooklyn to get Michael Port? What if that's 510 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,680 just the only asset except for money, So it would 511 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,200 be Fred van Fleet and you could do who after that? 512 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,839 I mean Fred van Fleet and Dorian Phinney Smith get 513 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,759 you there. But if you're looking at shed Mort, I 514 00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:23,480 mean maybe the nets are even letting you get out of. 515 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,799 Speaker 2: The tax I mean I was gonna stay like that 516 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,480 swap is I mean that should be more than enough 517 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:32,319 because Brooklyn should really want that swap, right and and 518 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,079 like if you're getting that swap back and you're moving 519 00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:37,559 off MPJA, who would probably make it harder for you 520 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,400 to maximize the value of that pick next year. That's 521 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,920 a pretty good one too. I wonder if you could 522 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,759 ask for another, like a future pick from the. 523 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: Net's on that deal, you know, So yeah, that maybe 524 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,519 that's the deal is? Can you do get the KNICKSES 525 00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:55,799 twenty twenty seven pick instead send the swap back to 526 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,400 the Nets? Then the trade becomes it have to be 527 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,759 Fred van Fleet d and you could do a smaller contract, 528 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,000 or you could do that doesn't get you out the test, 529 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,519 so you could do clin cappella and maybe would the 530 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:09,400 Nets also send you Dayron Sharp back. 531 00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:12,559 Speaker 3: I'm I had never. 532 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,079 Speaker 2: Not thought of this, but I it's not my favorite idea. 533 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:17,519 I love it because you could, because I think you 534 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,640 could ask for the moon like you, I think it 535 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,000 would be difficult to come up with the semi realistic 536 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:25,720 package that Brooklyn would be willing to give up, including MPJ, 537 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,839 to get that pickback, right, I mean, like, I think 538 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,599 that should be there if we if we circled back 539 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,640 into the Brooklyn trade deadline primer, like that should be 540 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,720 priority one. We got to get that pickback, because I mean, 541 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,559 they're gonna try to be better next year, I guess, 542 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,599 But it's like, would they be saying that if they 543 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,240 had control of that pick. I kind of doubt it. 544 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is so the deal. So the structure I 545 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,960 have and it works a double check to this. The 546 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:51,160 Rockets aren't saving money. They're taking on a little bit, 547 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,480 but they're so little they're still below the first apron 548 00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:59,119 Fred van Fleet, Dorian Phinney Smith and Clint Capella for 549 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,440 and that that swap for Michael Porter Junior Dayron Sharp. 550 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:06,200 And then do you have the leverage to ask for 551 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:09,079 like the Knicks' twenty twenty nine pick instead of twenty 552 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:09,680 twenty seven. 553 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm asking for the pick. 554 00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:15,039 Speaker 1: No, I think you could get the twenty twenty seven pick. 555 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,559 Without no matter what I'm asking as Houston, wouldn't you 556 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,519 prefer because the Knicks there might be changes this summer, 557 00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:23,440 but they're probably not gonna suck next year? 558 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: Right? 559 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, for sure you would prefer the more distant pick, 560 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,279 just because Brunson will be older and by then, so 561 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,279 let's say something, something will have happened. 562 00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:34,519 Speaker 1: It's a first round pick. Maybe do you ask the 563 00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:35,799 Nuggets is twenty thirty two? 564 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: For like? 565 00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Would Brooklyn say no? So let's say this, this is 566 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,279 the package. You're giving up Clint Capella, Fred Van Fleet, 567 00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:46,480 Dorrian and Finney Smith for day Ron Sharp and Michael 568 00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:49,160 Porter Junior. You're giving the swap back, and you're also 569 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,160 getting an additional first round pick. I'll say I'll say 570 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,240 post twenty twenty seven, because I think the Nets would 571 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,920 want that pick back so bad that maybe you could 572 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,880 get both the Knicks' picks in twenty seven and twenty 573 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,279 two nine, or maybe you get that Nuggets pick in 574 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:03,720 twenty thirty two, just that. 575 00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:07,279 Speaker 3: Would you do that? So forget about the Nets? 576 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,279 Speaker 1: I think the Nets maybe it's a conversation as we 577 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359 get to the out years on those picks. 578 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: Do the Rockets do this? 579 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? So that the question then is, like, is MPJ 580 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:23,720 because clearly he's the crown jewel of the deal, are 581 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960 we sure that he's exactly what the rockets need? Because 582 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,359 that is a valuable pick, although like again trying to 583 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,200 keep it focused on the rockets, like, do you think 584 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,200 maybe at some point the nets? I guess it's such 585 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,880 a short window, it's unlikely the nets will have someone 586 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,400 you want even more that you'd be willing to offer 587 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,359 that swap back for, like probably not. I don't know 588 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:44,759 who that was. 589 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: Not between now and when the swaps right, right, you 590 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:48,680 got a year and. 591 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: A half maybe not yet roughly, but before that pick 592 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,559 would convey I mean I think. 593 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: I do it? Am I not too? 594 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: The only thing is the only thing is it's a 595 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,759 bad look if you're just putting Fred van Vliet on 596 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:05,799 an ice flow and like shoving him out to see 597 00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:09,000 like that, that that's a bad look. But I think 598 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,319 I would get over it if. 599 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:14,279 Speaker 3: We Why is it a bad look like this? That's 600 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,200 just how I mean. 601 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Don't you have the feeling. 602 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:21,319 Speaker 1: Gave him an above market contract for two years? 603 00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:23,519 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, you know, I just have a heart, 604 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,200 is all. Sorry you can't relate. 605 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:28,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it's but I also I'm not even sure 606 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,160 Fred Van Fleet is the exact player they need because 607 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,759 he's definitely just been a capslock shot creator. 608 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,839 Speaker 3: He's never been, but he's. 609 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,079 Speaker 2: Like, it's very clear that he would be a massive help. 610 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Just even if I. 611 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: Ask you a cold calculated question, who would you rather 612 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:45,640 have next year, Michael Porter Junior or Fred Van Fleet 613 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,960 coming off an a c L injury. 614 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's pretty pretty obvious. It's MPJ pretty easy 615 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,720 even position, even though positionally it's weird because you got 616 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,559 another forward in the mix that can't guard down. But 617 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,920 so well, here's the thing, if you still have Thompson 618 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,039 can guard down, I would trust Easton to guard down. 619 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:04,960 While is Easton on the team. If you traded for 620 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:08,160 MPJA or you go to free agency, probably. 621 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,519 Speaker 3: You have to keep. 622 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: I think if you're losing DFF because you're like salary 623 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,200 net neutral for next season with this deal, so like, 624 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,400 I don't think it changes anything functionally for them. I 625 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,759 keep Easton, and I think you probably at least for 626 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,160 this season, because look, Michael Porter Junior could then be 627 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,960 valuable matching salary as part of a Yannis trade and 628 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,279 if you're getting if you're able to get two first 629 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,720 back from the nets for that swap in theory like 630 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:36,079 that could be more useful for you if you decide 631 00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:38,240 to turn around and make a honest trade or a 632 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:42,720 bigger trade. But you're right, I positionally, so you have 633 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:46,240 Durant and Thompson Michael Porter Junior, and then are you 634 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,240 gonna play two centers with those three at some point? 635 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,079 Speaker 2: Right? Probably you still love Smith. I guess that's not 636 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,559 that many. But because I wouldn't. Who knows what you're 637 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,079 getting with Adams, all those Adams expiring I can't even 638 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,480 know on the books for two more years, that's right, 639 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:03,839 he signed that, that little short extension. Yeah, I think 640 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,279 you probably do that. Also, we buried the lead that 641 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,119 just like puts a giant like spotlight on Reed Shepherd 642 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:13,079 for next year where it's like you're the guy man. 643 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,519 We don't just don't have any other guards. It's you're 644 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,039 you're in charge of the back court, which I think 645 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:19,519 we're both supportive of. 646 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,079 Speaker 3: I don't know why I like this DA so much. 647 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,559 There's a lot of good deal. I yeah, I like it. 648 00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:25,880 I don't. 649 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,039 Speaker 1: I My prediction is you could let us know in 650 00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:31,319 the comments or our discord Rockets fans is Rockets fans 651 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,440 do not like the structure of that deal, but I 652 00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:37,039 like it. Any other names, Like, I think, if they're 653 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:40,119 gonna go lower end solutions, what does it take to 654 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:42,079 get I've named him for so many teams out but 655 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:45,640 like Cam Spencer out of Memphis would be perfect. 656 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: Any cheap moving forward. 657 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean, any of the Grizzlies, not Ja Morant guards 658 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,119 would be interesting. If you thought played well. I was 659 00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:55,839 gonna say, if you thought Pippin or Tied Jerome we're 660 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,240 gonna be healthy up to play at some point, that 661 00:30:58,359 --> 00:30:59,720 might be worth than worth an ad. 662 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:01,799 Speaker 3: I have two more. I have two more names that 663 00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:02,599 I find interesting. 664 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: Please he He's very cheap now, but he has a 665 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,440 player option in twenty twenty seven, twenty eight, and I'm 666 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,440 not convinced that the Bucks should view him as part 667 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,000 of their core. 668 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: If they think Giannis is. 669 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: Gone now or next season, Ryan Robins would be so 670 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:16,640 good for this team. 671 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:19,319 Speaker 2: He would be great. I mean, if I'm the Bucks, 672 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:22,039 like I'm this is probably overstating it, but I'm almost 673 00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:24,119 thinking of like this is one of our post honest 674 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,240 core pieces. I mean, part of that's because they don't 675 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,920 have a lot else. But yeah, he would be phenomenal 676 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,720 for for for the Rockets. Like he I know it's 677 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,759 the bloom. There were moments earlier in the season where 678 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:37,759 I said some very outlantis things, but I still think 679 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:39,759 he's I think Rollins is a three level scorer that 680 00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:42,079 makes your defense better, can run a pick and roll 681 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,960 that has to be guarded like hit him. Yeah, he's 682 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,839 a He's a really good two way guard that like 683 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:54,400 I think shouldn't be gettable for like less than I mean, 684 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,519 he's your I think you should have to give up 685 00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,000 like a legit first and some other stuff for him. 686 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,279 Speaker 3: Like I think which the Rockets, to their credit that 687 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,519 you have, they. 688 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,759 Speaker 2: Can do it if they want. Would you would you 689 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,440 rather have Ryan Rollins or Kobe White like or actually. 690 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,359 Speaker 3: Riot contracts different. 691 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: Rond's a better player, like in total, maybe I. 692 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: Think Kobe White's a better offensive player. But also I'm 693 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,599 sort of just after watching em Udoka, it feels it's 694 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,799 almost from the He's been better than Jamal Mosley, I think, 695 00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:27,279 but just doesn't play guys who are defensive liabilities, and 696 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,200 Kobe White is relative to this Rockets team, they could 697 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,880 instant him, but he's definitely a defensive liability, right. 698 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,559 Speaker 2: I agree. 699 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: The other name, I don't don't know what it costs 700 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,039 again him Peyton Pritchard would be excellent for this team 701 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:39,319 as well. 702 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:42,039 Speaker 2: He would be really good. Yeah, yeah, I like that 703 00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:47,640 a lot. I mean yeah, I don't think if a boy, 704 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,480 if the Celtics were sellers, things would be a lot 705 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:51,720 more interesting as like we expected they would be. 706 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: This is a I guess it's also positionally redundant. But 707 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,519 should they be a Trey Murphy team, He's to match 708 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:01,640 that salary, that's for sure. 709 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, do you want to give up the picks 710 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,119 it's gonna take for him? 711 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,319 Speaker 3: That's that's what Michael. 712 00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,319 Speaker 1: The thing with getting a Michael Porter junior, he's more expensive, 713 00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,880 but because you have that net swap, I think you 714 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640 could get back picks and get off money like with 715 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,279 that swap. 716 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,039 Speaker 2: And everybody is in love with Murphy at the moment. 717 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,119 I think there's at least a conversation about who's who's 718 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,680 a better player right right now, Murphy or MPJ. Like 719 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:28,839 Murphy is relatively cheaper, contract goes out longer, like that 720 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200 makes him the better asset. But like if you're just 721 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:34,720 thinking about who makes us better today. The Rockets could 722 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,000 conclude its MPG, and then the fact that they have 723 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,720 the trump card in trading for MPJ without giving up 724 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,759 a bunch of other stuff makes Makesporter Junior probably the 725 00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:46,640 smarter get I think, even though he costs significantly more. 726 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,799 Speaker 1: I think, and which is fair. People will point to 727 00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,960 the durability concerns with his back, but he's been like 728 00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:55,680 at some point, it's just he's been available for three 729 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,480 straight seasons. 730 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,319 Speaker 2: I think we need to table that. I think we 731 00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:01,720 need to leave the MPJ health issues aside until they 732 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,079 crop up again, just because like it hasn't been a thing. 733 00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,839 Speaker 1: And the other thing too, is just like if you're looking, 734 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,000 he's not a point guard. But Michael Porter Junior this 735 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:14,119 year ranks in the double checking it right now, the 736 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,079 ninety fourth percentile of self created shot making efficiency. Would 737 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:19,960 you like to know where Trey Murphy ranks. I love 738 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,599 Trey Murphy. 739 00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,559 Speaker 2: Please, I'm guessing lower than that if you have to. 740 00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 3: The tenth percentile. And so it's okay. 741 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: If we're not going to get someone to facilitate offense 742 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,280 for others, at least we know he can come in here. 743 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,239 And just get buckets off the ball. On the ball, 744 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:37,199 I to wrap up on the rockets. I'm I don't 745 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,480 let's predict their scale. I'm more optimistic about this team. 746 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,400 I think their fans are lately. I don't think they'll 747 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,079 sit around and do nothing, And if they do, that's 748 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:46,880 when I'll get a little bit more pessimistic. But they 749 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,760 have the ability to make big moves, medium moves, moves 750 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,760 on the margins, so I think they'll do something to 751 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,800 improve the like. 752 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 3: The offensive floor balance. 753 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what it will be, but I'm on 754 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,239 a scale of aggression, I'll probably put them at like 755 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,079 a six or seven of doing something. 756 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 2: I like that range. I think. I think their needs 757 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,039 are so clear and the types of players that could 758 00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:14,400 address them probably won't. Like the MPJA thing is is 759 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,599 a whole separate issue, but like, there's enough decent shooters 760 00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:22,719 and solid, you know, playmaking guards that can make a 761 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,280 shot that that it would be disappointing if they didn't 762 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,119 go out and get somebody, you know, even if you're 763 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:32,599 just in the Kobe White tier of of acquisitions. Like, 764 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,440 I think they're a good enough team with a with 765 00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:40,719 an identifiable enough flaw, sure and yeah, any any of 766 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,880 those guys like Tias Jones isn't gonna do it, probably 767 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,360 unless he's I'd taken till like twenty twenty one, Tias Jones. 768 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:49,079 Speaker 1: Just like we kind of said we need to like 769 00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:52,199 ditch the MPG their ability thing. It might be like 770 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,599 time to move on from the idea of Tyas Jokes. 771 00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,079 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh I've moved on. He's like the last 772 00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:00,880 guy because he's so available, he's so he's so easy 773 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,599 to onboard. It's just like, if you can't get any 774 00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:05,000 of those guys, sure we'll give up a second and 775 00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:08,480 salary we don't care about for him and not not 776 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,800 count on him. But yeah, I think the I think 777 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,159 they should do something. I think it's likely that they will. 778 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,480 The blockbustery stuff feels pretty unlikely because I do think 779 00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:20,239 there is a case to be I just gave them one. 780 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:25,320 Yeah they should, You're welcome, but they have there there 781 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,920 they could make the case that like even though we 782 00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,320 made the move for Kevin Durant that accelerated the timeline, 783 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,599 like we still would like to see what happens in 784 00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,000 the playoffs with with him and with our younger guys 785 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,360 that are still kind of trying to figure things out. 786 00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:41,199 Speaker 1: I think they will make a move where the player 787 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,320 coming back is no worse than ke On Ellis. 788 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,079 Speaker 3: They might just decide to get it like and that's 789 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:45,960 you know what. I don't know. 790 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,159 Speaker 1: I'd like someone better than ke On Ellis, But if 791 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,639 ke On Ellis is like the floor, that's. 792 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: Why I'm happy with that. 793 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, you got anything else? 794 00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 3: Are you ready to take us out of here? 795 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: I got an outro? Thanks everybody for listening, for watching. 796 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,760 As Dan said at the top, please remember to to rate. 797 00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,480 Give us a five star rating, give us a nice review. 798 00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:06,679 That's always helpful. Subscribe Please if you're watching this on YouTube, 799 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,639 leave us a comment there as well. Join our discord 800 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:11,760 links for that in the YouTube and podcast description. 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