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Speaker 1: A look at college football news, analysis and insight from

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around the Sunshine State. This is Florida Football Insiders, a

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part of the College Gridiron Coast to Coast podcast network.

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Speaker 2: Here's your host, Jason Powers.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to Florida Football Insider's podcast. Now

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it is time for Mark Moses, host of The Mark

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Moses Show The Fan one oh seventy nine Monday through

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Fridays three to six pm Sports Radio fifteen sixty dot

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com at Mark Moses Show, based out of the Orlando

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Melbourne area of the state of Florida. He is gonna

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come in and we're talking disasters at Florida, Tallahassee, the

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rise of Miami, is the U back USF with a

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monster in state game, UCF with a big opening, big

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twelve win. We'll even talk a little NFL Bucks, Jagson Dolphins.

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Mark Moses, Welcome back to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Sir, Hey, buddy, I know you're on with me. The

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other day you were fantastic, so I had to return

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the favor. And I don't know about you, but uh

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I watched football, like I know, we're in this moment,

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this mode right now where it's like non stop football.

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I watched last Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday night.

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My body gave out where I was like, I can't,

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no boss, and I passed out in the first half

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of that Eagles Falcons game. So I found out the

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next day. I don't know about you, Like, how much

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can your body do with this? With all this football?

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You're right, you gotta be careful. You gotta pace yourself. Man,

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it's only week two. You gotta pay you no, absolutely right?

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Speaker 3: All right. You're based here in the state of Florida

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like I am. Let's let's let's start with the hot

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bed where the temperature is now about four hundred and

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ninety degrees up in Gainesville, Florida. Another terrible performance at

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home Billy Napier. The Gators get thumped again by Texas

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A and m over the weekend in the swamp speculation running.

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They've got the money together to buy them off. They're

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accumulating the money to make a big offer. Just give

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me a thought or two about the Florida program. What

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have you seen the first three weeks? And is there

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any hope for billion Navier here? Here's one thing which

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is so shocking. Is everyone new going into the season.

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Speaker 2: I know this is a broken record when I'm trying

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to say here, everyone new was gonna be a tough schedule.

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You said it on your podcast. It's the way they

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lost those two games Miami on National TV and A

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and M Over the weekend also on National TV. Hey,

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if they would have played like Florida State, where hey

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it's twenty four to twenty one, they lose, thirty seven

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thirty four they lose, I think Napier would be okay, Hey,

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at least you put up a fight. There's no fight.

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They're just laying down and dying on the field. And

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Napier spent the whole offseason. I mean, I appreciate it

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for nine straight months. Hey, hey, we're gonna be better.

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We're gonna figure this out. We finally got in the

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right direction. We're good to go. Be patient, we're gonna

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be better on the field, and you so week one.

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It's one of those things. It's this question I asked

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everyone on my show. Is it better we found out

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Labor Day weekend where they ripped the band aid off?

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Because what if they played two or three Cupcakes and

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then took on Miami, then we wouldn't have now we know.

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That's what Joe's shocking and what's really sad Jason. I

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covered when they fired Musshamp. I covered when they fired

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uh Mullin. I can't even came up with all the

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names back away, and there's a lot of EM's in there.

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I covered all these things, and now I gotta cover

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another one. I've been covering the Gators since twenty thirteen,

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and I'm getting mentally prepared to cover my fifth coach

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in like eleven years. That's what's so sad. And they

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just there's no fighting them. And they're gonna play Mississippi

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State this weekend and it is the battle for who's

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the worst team in the SEC? What how has that

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even happening?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And if they lose this game this weekend, then they're

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gonna have the buy because you know this. Now you

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have two buys during the season because of the expanded playoff.

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I think it's just why I think you have to

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move on. And at this point, and you said this

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earlier on my show, Okay, you got to give him

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twenty six million to the buyout, then you're gonna bring

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in someone new and pay them, Well, where's money for nil?

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Then where's all this money gonna come from it? Look,

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I feel bad. I know, I know billion Nate Pier.

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I've talked to him multiple times. He's a great guy.

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But you're the Gators ninety thousand. You got to put

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up a fight in these football games.

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Speaker 3: And what's interesting to me just watching them on the field. One,

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they don't have any dynamic players. Maybe one or two,

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but that ain't what the old four would have, six

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or seven guys that will be just electric kind of guys.

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is not very good. And you know that in this

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conferences in the SEC. If you're not good in the trenches,

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you got no chance, you know. And just again non

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competitive you Again, you made a great point. If they're

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losing by a field goal or a late touchdown, people

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can live with that and they see progress. But just

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when the game's over, in the middle of the second

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quarter and halftime, that's the part that you can't tolerate

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's what's weird. It's year three. So in year one,

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his first game ever as a coach, he had Anthony Richardson,

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who's sound the start for the Colts, which was a

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Dan Mullen recruit. They win that game against Utah, So

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his first game as a coach, he goes out there

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and wins. Last year, you forget this. Last year they

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take on Tennessee under the lights, Tennessee's rank and they

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beat Tennessee in a four quarter football game. They go

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to five and two, and you're like, okay, And ever

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since then, they can't win a football game against a

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Power five opponent. That's what's so shocking. Where's the fight.

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I'm not asking for twelve and zero, but come on,

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this team right now is gonna go about one and eleven,

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maybe get to three wins. If you look at it.

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Speaker 3: Does you know there's some there's some turbulence with the

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administration with the University of president. Does Scott Strickland survive

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this or does he get to make another hire?

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Speaker 2: No, there's no way. Because he hired Mullin and then

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he got nappier. You can't let him keep hiring. You

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know this better than anyone. If you're an athletic director,

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you get to hire a basketball coach and a football coach.

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That's what you get to do. And honestly, you're gonna

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let him, hire a third coach? What are you talking about?

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Let someone else do it? And and that's the problem

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where you can't just fire Napier. You're gonna have to

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get rid of Scott Strickland. Deili prom is if you

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look at it this way, we're only in September. September,

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you know, September seventeenth, eighteenth nineteenth, we're kind of midway

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through September. Let's tell you fire him, then what do

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all the players go into the transfer portal? What you know,

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you still have a season to play. Who's gonna go?

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Who's gonna coach the team in the interim? Do you

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have to do what I was gonna say, Do you

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have to do where kind of like Oklahoma did where

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you know you had the coach lead for USC, so

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then Stoops had to come out of retirement and coach

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the team. But what would happen that?

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Speaker 3: That's why I think they're not going to fire him

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until after maybe the Texas game later on. I know

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this decision may already be made, but I think they're

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gonna let him stay until week eight, week nine, something

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like that, because you don't want to have nine weeks

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of an interim coach and chaos and the program players,

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you know, guys that think that you know you're right,

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the opportunity to leave potentially. That's why I don't think

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they're gonna necessarily make a move this early, even if

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they were to lose to Mississippi State and or Central Florida.

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I think after the second buy is the time that

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I think they truly officially pulled the plug.

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Speaker 2: They're you think about it, if you have to fire

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a coach restart, then you're gonna need two years for recruiting,

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so you're you're ten years away. You know. It's It's

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like I say, with my Chicago Bulls, we have a

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concept of a plan since nineteen ninety nine. Okay, like,

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what are you doing after a while?

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Speaker 3: Do they hire a I mean, what if Scott Strickland

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says I can deliver Lane Kiffin, I can deliver Dabo Sweeney,

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I can deliver maybe a John Gruden kind of guy.

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What if he says that you keep him?

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Speaker 2: I think you might. You might. The question is, what are.

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Speaker 3: You call the chaos in the university administration with the

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university president. Who's gonna fire Scott Strickland to make that hire?

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If you don't have a university president.

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Speaker 2: Think about this, you're abso right. Think about what Miami did.

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Miami really finally three years ago opened up the checkbook, right,

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and they went got the athletic director from Clemson, who

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knows what the hell he's doing. And then they went

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out and got the coach who knew what the hell

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he was doing for recruiting a Mario Chris Spaul. But

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again they're in year three. This is a process. Can

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you like the sixers? Can you trust the process and

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let this out? Gator fans, I will say this, I

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love him every year in the off season. Hey, if

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we go eight and four, that'll be a good building block.

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We can go nine and three, they'd be a great season.

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The minute we play that first gate, they want twelve

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to zero. They want to have greatness.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, let's go to Tallahassee. Disastrous start,

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oh to three. Nobody in America thought this team would

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be owen three. The disastrous loss at home to Memphis,

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where Norvel used to coach, DJU continues to struggle. The

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offensive and defensive lines, which were hyped nationally all all

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summer as elite, have been nothing but average at best,

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if not below average. Give me a thaw of what

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Speaker 2: Well, like we said earlier, at least they're putting up

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the fight. They're in all these football games. I mean

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they're every even in Dublin and Tallahassee. I don't know.

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Does Florida State have road games? I get very confused

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by this sometimes, like every week because they're California at home,

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and then I know they will. Florida and Florida State.

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By the way, if you're an outside or doesn't in

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the state, Florida and Florida State have the best ever

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where you play about eight home games and then about

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four road games. It's the best it is. I think

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it's one of those things where, Okay, you won ten

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games two years ago, he went thirteen and oh won

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the conference. They gave the extension of Mike Norvell. They're

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Speaker 3: He's only gotten two million dollars to walk out the door.

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Speaker 2: Well, the admired the opening at Alabama really helped him out. Hey,

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I might leave, he wont leaven It's one of those

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things where they went all in on the DJU guy.

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I don't understand and my Dad said this to me

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the other day. I give him credit. He's like, well,

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how bad are the backups? Then? But they can't get

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on the field. Look what that's the problem with recruiting.

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He's been there for more. He came in during the

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pandemic year. I interviewed him that first year. And Mike

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him at Memphis. You can't recruit five star quarterbacks. You

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can't your Florida State you're winning. I do understand it.

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They always say this where the great teams like Alabama,

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they reload. They reload, there's no rebuild. They reload. They

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lost Nick Saban didn't missipate, right, but it looks like

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Florida State. Can you look at that schedule. It is

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a weak schedule. They should win ten or eleven games

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this year, but right now I see them play four

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quarters of football. This is a disaster and they should

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think the Gators for how bad they are right now.

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Speaker 3: Did Norvel overplay the transfer portal? You know, he's been

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a king of the portal the last couple of years,

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and it struck gold. And now you got a lot

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of guys who don't look like they're much into the

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team concept, not very motivated. Things have gone wrong, bad

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evaluation of DJ. You never should have been the guy.

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He was never great at Oregon State or Clemson. What

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do you think of Norvell's philosophy, heavy portal, not nearly

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as much high school recruiting to reload.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a lot of schools in college

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football right now. I don't think it's just Florida State.

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the transfer portal. That's why there's gonna be no loyalty

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in college football moving forward. If I'm on the bench,

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if I'm third string, well I'm out of here. If

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I'm not going to play, the hell with you, I'm

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going to another school. They lost so many people, I

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mean to the NFL Draft that they just they graduated

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or you know, they left, and the leadership was so

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mess I mean, yeah, I think you know this. If

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you have a good quarterback, the rest of the team

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will start competing hard. But when you saw Dju missing

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wide open people in the end zone, you could have

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made those throats, and it's like, what the hell is this?

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the thing is Norvell's fine, novel's fine. But if they

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have a season where they went two games, what what

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is this exactly? You remember when Willy Taggart was there

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and I think by was it year two?

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Speaker 3: They downhill in a hurry with Willy.

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Speaker 2: Dude, we were at an event. This is when I

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knew we were in trouble because I used to get

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Willy taggered on and I liked when he was at

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South Florida. He was a good coach there. They won

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a lot of games, so Taggart's could do. So we

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d this event at the Kennedy Space Center with the

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Revards Seminal Club. You would have loved it where Bobby

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Bowden was there and this is kind of the end

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of Bobby and dude. It was like meeting the Godfather.

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It was awesome, like he is the man, so he's there.

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Jeene Deckeroff, who was one of my favorites, he's there.

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Lee Corso's there. Like if you are a college football fan,

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this was a great event. And then someone walked into

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the room and it was Willy Taggert and I know

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Willy Taggert and like he didn't command the room, and

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you kind of kind of like what's going on here,

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it's his dream job and he was at Oregon, but

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he kind of knew then like maybe this isn't the guy.

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like you don't command the room. And I bring this

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up because it's like they kind of like, oh, this

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isn't the guy. Mike Norvel is safe for right now,

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but let's see how the season keeps going.

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Speaker 3: Moving forward, I said, down to South Florida again, the

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rise of the U. Are they back? Potentially? You got

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Mario in year three, got a good recruiting class. He's

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really trying to build it the right way, offensive and

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defensive lines. They bring in cam wore the elite Washington

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State quarterback and you've seen you saw what he did

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in the swamp. He played the part beautifully, the most

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electric quarterback Miami's had in a long time. Give me

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a thought or two about what you like about Miami.

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Speaker 2: Hurricanes have been bad for a long long time. You

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and me were young men the last time they were

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dominating college football, and that's sad to say that. Cam

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Ward looks legit. My only concern is remember last year

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they were undefeated and had momentum, and then they took

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on Georgia Tech and then the game happened where they

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didn't need the ball, and then they kind of knows

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doc after that. That's kind of the thing where I

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think if you ask Hurricane fans, I know they're excited,

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they're fist bumping, and they loved beating the Gators loved it.

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It's still wait and see it is. And I think

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the key is maybe when they take on Florida State

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and they if they can stop the Seminoles, maybe like

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you know, by midseason, all right, you know we are legit.

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Speaker 3: But they'll try to score fifty. If they can't on them,

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they try to embarrass them if they can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the key is I think that

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if you look at the college football playoff, you know,

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the big ten in the SEC are going to gobble

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up a lot of the different spots they are. If

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you're the big twelve in the ACC, you better win

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your conference or at least get the runner up, or

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you're not gonna make the playoff. So you better If

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you're Miami, you better run the tape this one.

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Speaker 3: Loss at most, one loss at most for Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. I think they have the firepower Mario. Finally,

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I mean, what's the thing on him? He can recruit,

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but can he can't manage the game? Can he manage

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the game? That's a great that's the number one thing.

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But kim Ward looks legit. And not only that, he

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looks like he might be a ten NFL draft kick.

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Now that's how good he looks right now.

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Speaker 3: Sneaky good game. This week, Miami comes to Tampa Raymond

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James Stadium the USF prime time Saturday night. Is this

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a trap special here? And do you think us obviously

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we know what Alex Golish is doing here building this program?

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Is it? You know they played well at Alabama for

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three and a half quarters two weeks ago. Is this

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a trap game here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And South Florida should have been VAMA last year.

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I think it is a trap game because I what's

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crazy In hindsight, South Florida not making a jump to

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a hour four like UCP did actually was great for

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them because they stay in the American they get actual

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real football coaches in there, and they're a competitive program.

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And I think that's great for that area. I know

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they need the stadium on campus, but so does Miami.

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Speaker 3: They're building it. It's getting built.

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Speaker 2: It's getting built, So that's gonna be really cool, and

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I think it is. I think the key is if

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you're Miami, you gotta still act like, hey, we have

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a one jack and you know what you haven't and

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you show that that should be. That should be a

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great game. I'm interested to see. I know you live

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in the area. What's the crowd gonna be?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Right, are there gonna be a lot of Miami fans

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were gonna show up? What's that gonna be?

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Speaker 3: Like, Jason, I would think there would be a good

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amount of I was not encouraged. There was an artist

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that came out in the paper early this week saying

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they were just opening the upper deck at Raymond James

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because of the which that's not a great sign to me.

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If you're USF would Miami come into town that ought

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to be sixty five seventy five? I mean that that

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Stanium only holds sixty five thousand. If there's not sixty

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thousand people in that building, whether it's Miami or USF fans,

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that's a real that's a real black guy on us

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F because they're you know, give the ad credit. He's

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brought in Alabama, he brought in Florida, he's breaking in Miami.

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If you're a USF and you want to be a

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legitimate national team, you gotta sell that place out, even

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if the Miami fans do show up.

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Speaker 2: And you know what school also is. You know I

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talked about this with Memphis. You know, Memphis got what

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one point four million to play Florida State beat him.

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It took the money, which is amazing. Hey, Memphis is

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the American as well. Hey, they run the table, win

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the conference, they can make the playoff. Everyone's eligible US seven.

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Speaker 3: They win this game, they get Memphis in their building

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on a Friday night in early October. That game could

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be for the That game seriously could be for the

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conference title and potentially the twelfth seed in the College

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Football Playoff.

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Speaker 2: You got to go to that, buddy, You got to

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go to this game. That'll be an awesome game to

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go to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so, I mean this is huge stakes

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for USF. You get a national win over a top

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ten team and then you win the American Conference with

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maybe one more loss. You got a chance to be

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you got a chance to be the power five, I

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mean the non power five representative in this playoff bracket.

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So huge opportunity for Alex Golish, Byron Brown in that

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USF program. All right, last thing on the college and

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we'll get to a couple of NFL things. You say, team,

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you cover a lot, you know, very well, huge win

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open opening weekend in the Big twelve, thirty five, thirty

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four were in Fort Worth. Give me a photo or

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two about Gus Malsonkaj Jefferson. Can this team be a

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threat in the Big Jason?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So last year I was there for the debacle

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where they took on Baylor in their first ever Big

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twelve game and they were up big and big and

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then blew one of the biggest leads ever at home

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and lost that game. And that is one of the

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low points of the Gus MOUs On era.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: And they barely made a ball game last year. You know,

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they got you know, just six wins or so. First year. Okay,

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that win over the weekend was gigantic. You're absolutely right,

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because they were down twenty eight to seven. I didn't

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think they I don't know if anyone thought they'd come back.

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But I'll tell you you talk about a dark horse

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Heisman candidate. This sky RJ. Harvey has over five hundred

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yards rushing and it's through three games, right and if

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kJ Jefferson, if he can stay healthy. Maybe they got

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a quarterback for the first time since mckinn Milton in

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twenty eighteen. And they're at the box. They have the

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buy right now and then they have a game at

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the end of the month. The found out Colorado right

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in two weeks. Yes, they have Colorado. They're still not

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sure when the kickoff's going to be. They're still going

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to figure that out.

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Speaker 3: But it's in Orlando. It's in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go I would screw with Colorado from

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the standpoint, Hey, give me big newon kickoff, new kickoff.

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Make sure it's ninety five degrees. Let them have the

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two hour jet lag and let's rock and roll and

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blitz them out of the building. That win against TCU,

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it gives me this feeling. You know what, there is

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no Texas, there is no Oklahoma. Maybe they can compete

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for this. I know Utah is kind of the favorite

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and they were voted to win it.

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Speaker 3: Hurt, the quarterback hurt.

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Speaker 2: I know, i'd open maybe you got a shot here.

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They got it. Look, they got to lay the wood

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on Colorado. They got to make a statement. And I

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know Colorado they take on you know, like Mountain West

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teams and then talk trash. Let's see Colorado beat somewhat good, right, like,

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you know, because they got killed in Nebraska. So that game.

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I've been to some great games. I don't know if

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you've ever been there before the bounce Out.

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Speaker 3: I went to the usf UCF game a couple of

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years ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, see, that's that's always the competitive game. I

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don't care. And I feel sad they're not playing that game.

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Speaker 3: Any good environment so excellent. The Bounce House is a

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not very good environment.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that place when they had college game Day

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and that game at night again Cincinnati, that was awesome.

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That And I think this game coming up, especially with

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Dion in the crowd and and and the debate that

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I've had, and you got to think about this, and

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so should your viewers. In the history of the Bounce House,

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what is the best player that's ever played there before?

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Maybe for the opposing team, right, And I think Travis

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Hunter might be because he could be a top five

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draft pick. He might be one of the best players

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to ever play at the Bounce House in the history

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that young stadiums.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I got I gotta tell the honors those

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Are you watching this on the YouTube the video, Mark

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Moses is wearing a a UCF Phantom National Championship hat

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from twenty seventeen when they declared themselves mythical National champ.

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Speaker 2: I get so many Okay, sobody, buddy Andy, here's the story.

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So my buddy Andy Seely used to be athletic communications,

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so I worked with them all the time. He's a

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good friend of mine. And he's like, hey, Mark, Hey,

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I got some for you. You know, And I don't

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even know if they sold this as a hat. So

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what's funny is like I'll wear it to do laundry,

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and you know, like I'm like, oh, I got to

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go to the store from it. I'll wear it. I

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get so many dirty books from floored out floor State fans,

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but I got it's one of my favorite teams.

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Speaker 3: And at the Bounce South there's a moniker up up

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by the press box twenty seventeen National champions Yeah, so

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they are selling it hard, Buddy.

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Speaker 2: It's and it's in the video game The College Football

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like it's on it. Hey, I in hindsight, man, the

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twenty eighteen team when Mackenzie Milton gets injured against South

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Florida in Tampa. That team went undefeated at two straight years.

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They if they had Milton. I'll take this to my grave.

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That was one of the greatest teams of all time.

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They could score on anyone. And I wish they were

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in the twelve team playoff, I really do, because they

471
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would have been great.

472
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Speaker 3: Speaking of Dion, would he potentially ever be a candidate

473
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at Florida? Would would they? Would they ever hire a guy.

474
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Speaker 2: Like Deon no I because I know I don't think

475
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he stays at Colorado, though I don't either. I think

476
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his son and Hunter leave that. I just doesn't he

477
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,799
feel more like like Colorado is more you know, grounded

478
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out when you think of the identity he needs to

479
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get back to, Like even if it's a southern school,

480
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more flashy where they you know they're gonna hide up

481
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,640
tempo offense. That's what it feels like he needs to

482
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be at. Not in a Colorado and not in not

483
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in the snow? Is that how you feel.

484
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I think I think. I think

485
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he's going to pull the plug here as soon as

486
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,920
Hunter and Shador are done there if he gets it.

487
00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:06,839
If he were to get an offer from a mid

488
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,759
level SEC type school, maybe even an a CEC school,

489
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be getting closer to the south here, you know, Texas,

490
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,480
maybe maybe even a Texas school, I could see him Bolton,

491
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:17,279
no doubt about it.

492
00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's another guy who I'm actually happy that

493
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:24,119
it worked out. He got another chance. Is manny Diez

494
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where he said Duke, Look, he shook. Remember he was

495
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the coordinator and then he was supposed to go to Temple.

496
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But then two days later they're like, oh wait, you

497
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can be the coach of Miami Elko.

498
00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: No Elko took the A and M job, which opened

499
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with the Duke job.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so like that. I like that he got another

501
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,079
chance and he can coach. And by the way, if

502
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you want to see one of the craziest games ever played,

503
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go on YouTube and watch the highlights of that game

504
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from two weeks ago where it's Duke and Northwestern with

505
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five thousand fumbles. That's the game to watch.

506
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couple NFL notes, I'll get you out of here. Give

528
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me a thought, What did you think last Thursday night

529
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,880
when he saw two of them?

530
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Speaker 2: That was the worst game he's ever played as a

531
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,640
Dolphins quarterback. I saw the actual game. I watched it.

532
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,599
He was making so many mistakes. He had three interceptions.

533
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:18,480
I know, the first one was tipped and everything.

534
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,079
Speaker 3: Man.

535
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Speaker 2: That third one that was a roocky mistake Corre. I

536
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,480
know this gets lost in the shuffle because he got

537
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:26,720
the concussion. The third one he just like just throw

538
00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:29,000
out of bounce, take the deck and it was a

539
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:34,920
pick six. That game exposed the Dolphins where okay, they

540
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,200
are better. Remember they used to be a basement team,

541
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but they're better. They're competitive, they can make the playoffs.

542
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:45,559
But the Buffalo Bills just own them, own them in

543
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that game, and the defense was atrocious. And then it's

544
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like just slide, go down, what are you doing? And

545
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,279
then it was DeMar Hamlin. It was just like what

546
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,519
the hell is this right? And don't forget oh was

547
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,960
talking about that Friday. Everyone who does the sports show

548
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,799
was talking about that. And now today they said.

549
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Speaker 3: Got put on ir on on Tuesday. So at least

550
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:13,559
four weeks and they have a buy in there, so

551
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:16,480
at least five weeks that he won't play. Yeah, is

552
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:19,400
this does he come back six, seven, eight weeks from now?

553
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,599
Does he play all this year? And then most importantly,

554
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:25,200
what does Miami do? Do they make a move in

555
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season here to try to fortify that position because there's

556
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still you know, a lot of people think they can

557
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still be a playoff team potentially if they can get

558
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a some production. Is Skylar Thompson the answer or a

559
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:39,319
name I threw out to you? Does Bryce Hunter? Bryce Young?

560
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,359
Excuse me? Do you potentially think about a third round

561
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,200
draft pick? Maybe do the Carolina for Bryce Young? Give

562
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,079
him a month to get ready and see what you got.

563
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question, and it's a great idea.

564
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,880
I mean, they got huntingly from Baltimore. He's gonna be

565
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,279
on the practice squad. Look, you're gonna go with Skyler

566
00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:57,680
Thompson for a couple of weeks no matter what he

567
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,039
Remember he started the playoff game Buffalo two years ago.

568
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,119
They were points Yeah, better than they did against Kansas

569
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,839
City last year. And I just want to say this,

570
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I like Tua. I like him, and remember he put

571
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:13,680
up gigantic numbers last year. The problem is when they

572
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:16,279
take on an actual team that can play defense, that

573
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,720
offense becomes a gimmick and they get shut down. I

574
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,559
am fascinated to watch this game this weekend where they

575
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take on Seattle. I want to see what happens, because look,

576
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,799
if you are Tyreek Hill, you were ranked number one

577
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,680
by all the players Nfeld the number one player, you

578
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:34,319
better get me the ball. This season ain't over for me.

579
00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:38,279
We better go win that game. I agree they have

580
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to survive the next couple weeks and see if to

581
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what comes back. I have no idea what's gonna happen,

582
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,759
but I went on other radio shows the last couple

583
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,920
of days where they're like, does he play? Yeah, I

584
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,799
think he signed a contract. I think he wants to

585
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:53,200
play again. That's what my guts tell me right now.

586
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:54,880
I think he does play later this year.

587
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Speaker 3: I do too, but I don't think it's gonna be

588
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for six or seven weeks. I think it'll be probably

589
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week nine week tennis at the Earth because I think

590
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,599
they're gonna be super cautious with him on that. I

591
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,680
get it. I'm with you. I think ultimately it's his decision,

592
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,279
the NFL can't tell him not to play.

593
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Speaker 2: The Dolphins can't do it.

594
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Speaker 3: He's gonna, I think, competitive wise, he's gonna go out

595
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and play one more time before, you know, because I

596
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think I think partially he feels a little guilty because

597
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of the contract he just signed, in the investment they

598
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:20,759
made in him. I don't think he's just gonna, you know,

599
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:22,799
I don't think he's gonna retire. I think you'll you'll

600
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,359
see him again week nine, week ten is something like

601
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200
that would be my guess on him. All right, Jacksonville,

602
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,599
you're pretty close there. A terrible start, a blown game

603
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,720
in week one at Miami, another not very good performance

604
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,839
in Week two at home against a Deshaun Watson Cleveland

605
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,960
Browns team who was in disarray. Give me a thought

606
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:41,920
or two about Trevor Lawrence. What's going on there?

607
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: I another another player that's making fifty million. But maybe

608
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:48,799
that's Look, maybe we need to just throw that idea

609
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:51,119
out the door. That's every quarterback. They're all gonna get

610
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,559
paid this now, that's the norm. What you're gonna get paid.

611
00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:59,079
It's just it doesn't make sense you see him in person.

612
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,519
I've been to Jaguar practice where it's like you stand

613
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:04,400
by him. He was the number one pick. I get it.

614
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,960
He had Urban Meyer, he said, different coordinators. I get it.

615
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,480
But it's like it's year four. Why isn't it clicking?

616
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,200
And they get him weapons as well they do, I

617
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,359
don't understand. It's like and then that one drive in

618
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920
the third quarter where he throws the sixty six yard

619
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,880
bomb to Thomas Junior Brookie catches it. They get set

620
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,440
up ETN scores and you're thinking like, okay, here we go,

621
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,759
let's get it going. But then other times on the

622
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:34,440
red zone they can't score. It just it feels like

623
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,799
they had that playoff game against the Chargers and he

624
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:42,319
played out of his mind. He really did.

625
00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:44,559
Speaker 3: Terrible first half, unbelievable second half.

626
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Speaker 2: That's his best game. And it's not he played you right,

627
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,039
he played for a half. It's like it hasn't clicked.

628
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,480
And after a while this season, because they're going to

629
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,559
be at Buffalo, I don't think they're winning that. Yeah,

630
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,519
I don't. What are you doing here?

631
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: Peterson in trouble.

632
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: I think if they don't make the playoffs, I think

633
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000
he is because I think you've decided, Hey, we're all

634
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:08,519
in on this. Quarterback. We got to make this.

635
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:10,759
Speaker 3: He ain't going nowhere. He just signed a five year extension.

636
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:11,720
He ain't going nowhere.

637
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,839
Speaker 2: No, I know where's our extension?

638
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: I want that right?

639
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on?

640
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: Last thing, I'll get you out of here. Give me

641
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,039
a thought or two about Baker Mayfield the Bucks. What

642
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,279
a huge win on the road in Detroit. They are

643
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,839
under the radar, ladies and gentlemen. Nobody's talked about this

644
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,720
team all year. All they've done is go out and play,

645
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,400
played great defense, shut down golf in their building. Mayfield's

646
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,319
playing really good new offensive coordinator. I really like what

647
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:41,039
I see in Tampa. And a very winnable game Denver

648
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:42,319
at home Sunday afternoon.

649
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: I was on with our guy t Krass. We were

650
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,599
on three sixty and before the season starts, and it's like, well,

651
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,279
is this team disrespected in my thought process at the time.

652
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,359
YE know, they are theird Tampa. You're not in the

653
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,680
NFC East. You have if you're a Buccaneers fan, you

654
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,519
got to come to this realization. You never gonna get

655
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:03,559
the love that these other big city market teams too.

656
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,839
But that's okay, Hey, stay at the one o'clock kickoff,

657
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:10,480
stay under the radar, make sure no one's paying attention

658
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,839
to you, and keep winning football games that win what

659
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:18,960
especially with the secondary bengdub was Giganny. I think Baker

660
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,559
Mayfield is an MVP candidate. He has saved his career.

661
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:25,519
And remember he's not making fifty million. What are some

662
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:31,000
other guys? He it's amazing. He is great, and Chris

663
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:34,000
Godwin looks like he's got a return in him where

664
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:38,039
he's been great through two games that division outside of Carolina,

665
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,039
those three teams Atlanta saved their season last night, and

666
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,640
that game we're gonna find out about the Saints. When

667
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640
the Saints play the Buccaneers, that is gonna be must

668
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,960
sy TV. I know no one cares in New York

669
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:54,000
or Dallas or Washington, but man, I'll tell you in

670
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,319
the NFC South, that is gonna be must sy TV.

671
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: And there's no dominant team in the NFC right now.

672
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,920
Nobody's no other than you know, Tampa and New Orleans

673
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000
A probably the best two teams really if you really

674
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:06,400
assess it, the NFC is wide open.

675
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: Here is completely open, and that's why it's so infuriating

676
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,319
with my Chicago Bears. If we could just get an

677
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:16,279
offensive line and score twenty points a game, We'll win

678
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:18,200
the damn NFC with our defense.

679
00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: How surprised are you that Caleb has struggled like he has,

680
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,440
But that's I knew that.

681
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:24,599
Speaker 2: See this thing, I knew that was gonna happen. He's

682
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:27,960
simbered playing before you coulda let you gotta give it

683
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,680
a second. Even last year with the Texan quarterbacks cej

684
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:34,519
strugg It takes a couple of games, right, That's why

685
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,799
preseason is a complete waste of time. It's trash. It

686
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:41,079
does not matter, youdo. If he if he can figure

687
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:43,200
this out, that's what I'm saying. We could just huver

688
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:46,680
around five hundred, let him click, and the defense is legit.

689
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,839
Speaker 3: The defense is good.

690
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston didn't score anything in the second half on

691
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:55,400
Sunday Nights. Like they're right there and they have Keenan

692
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,200
Allen and Roma Dunesay skip. When they figure this out,

693
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,599
they're gonna be dangerous.

694
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,359
Speaker 3: I agree. Now, I'm with you. I think I think

695
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,839
you got a chance here if you can get to

696
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,799
the mid if you can, if you can tread water

697
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,920
to a mid season and let Caleb get up and

698
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,199
get his feet under him if he'll just play within

699
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,639
structure a little more and not try to play playground

700
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,079
ball seventy five percent of the time. I think you

701
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:18,840
got a chance to have a playoff team there.

702
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that division is going to be tough because

703
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,000
Green Bay. Yeah yeah, who would have thought if you're

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a kal and a Panthers fan, Sam Darnold and Baker

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Mayfield are the two best quarterbacks in the NFC right now,

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and you have Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 3: And you trade all the all the merchandise and all

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the assets, you could have taken c J. Stroud, Would

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you take Bryce Young?

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Speaker 2: I think it would have been smarter in hindsight. We

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can disagree to not do anything. Just stayed at the

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ninth pick, try to get players, keep DJ Moore, keep them,

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and then okay, you're taking and then next year you

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would have gone Caleb Williams or one of these other quarterbacks.

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They still have to give the Bears another pick, exactly, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Mark, Its a great job man, great analysis, state

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of Florida everything. Check out Mark Show Monday through Friday,

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three to six. Sports Radio fifteen sixty dot com does

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a great job. Talks to Gator fans. He's got people

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all of the state calling in. Check it out at

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Mark Moses Show on ex and Twitter. The fan one

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oh seven to nine Phantom National Championship hat that he's

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gonna throw in the washer with the laundry to keep

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it going.

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Speaker 2: That's right, keep it up, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the time. Remember check us out Spectrum three sixty.

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If you're in the Tampa and Orlando markets, we're on

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a bunch together throughout the football season. We're on this

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Friday night. If you're in Tampa and Orlando, me and

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Mark are talking. I believe we're talking Jags in Tua, Miami.

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I think Fridays our Jags and Tua segment. So does

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a great job on the air, great job on TV

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all around. Good dude, man, take care, We'll be in touch,

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see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man, have a great night,