Speaker 1: A look at college football news, analysis and insight from
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Speaker 2: Here's your host, Jason Powers.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to Florida Football Insider's podcast. Now
it is time for Mark Moses, host of The Mark
Moses Show The Fan one oh seventy nine Monday through
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com at Mark Moses Show, based out of the Orlando
Melbourne area of the state of Florida. He is gonna
come in and we're talking disasters at Florida, Tallahassee, the
rise of Miami, is the U back USF with a
monster in state game, UCF with a big opening, big
twelve win. We'll even talk a little NFL Bucks, Jagson Dolphins.
Mark Moses, Welcome back to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Sir, Hey, buddy, I know you're on with me. The
other day you were fantastic, so I had to return
the favor. And I don't know about you, but uh
I watched football, like I know, we're in this moment,
this mode right now where it's like non stop football.
I watched last Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday night.
My body gave out where I was like, I can't,
no boss, and I passed out in the first half
of that Eagles Falcons game. So I found out the
next day. I don't know about you, Like, how much
can your body do with this? With all this football?
You're right, you gotta be careful. You gotta pace yourself. Man,
it's only week two. You gotta pay you no, absolutely right?
Speaker 3: All right. You're based here in the state of Florida
like I am. Let's let's let's start with the hot
bed where the temperature is now about four hundred and
ninety degrees up in Gainesville, Florida. Another terrible performance at
home Billy Napier. The Gators get thumped again by Texas
A and m over the weekend in the swamp speculation running.
They've got the money together to buy them off. They're
accumulating the money to make a big offer. Just give
me a thought or two about the Florida program. What
have you seen the first three weeks? And is there
any hope for billion Navier here? Here's one thing which
is so shocking. Is everyone new going into the season.
Speaker 2: I know this is a broken record when I'm trying
to say here, everyone new was gonna be a tough schedule.
You said it on your podcast. It's the way they
lost those two games Miami on National TV and A
and M Over the weekend also on National TV. Hey,
if they would have played like Florida State, where hey
it's twenty four to twenty one, they lose, thirty seven
thirty four they lose, I think Napier would be okay, Hey,
at least you put up a fight. There's no fight.
They're just laying down and dying on the field. And
Napier spent the whole offseason. I mean, I appreciate it
for nine straight months. Hey, hey, we're gonna be better.
We're gonna figure this out. We finally got in the
right direction. We're good to go. Be patient, we're gonna
be better on the field, and you so week one.
It's one of those things. It's this question I asked
everyone on my show. Is it better we found out
Labor Day weekend where they ripped the band aid off?
Because what if they played two or three Cupcakes and
then took on Miami, then we wouldn't have now we know.
That's what Joe's shocking and what's really sad Jason. I
covered when they fired Musshamp. I covered when they fired
uh Mullin. I can't even came up with all the
names back away, and there's a lot of EM's in there.
I covered all these things, and now I gotta cover
another one. I've been covering the Gators since twenty thirteen,
and I'm getting mentally prepared to cover my fifth coach
in like eleven years. That's what's so sad. And they
just there's no fighting them. And they're gonna play Mississippi
State this weekend and it is the battle for who's
the worst team in the SEC? What how has that
even happening?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And if they lose this game this weekend, then they're
gonna have the buy because you know this. Now you
have two buys during the season because of the expanded playoff.
I think it's just why I think you have to
move on. And at this point, and you said this
earlier on my show, Okay, you got to give him
twenty six million to the buyout, then you're gonna bring
in someone new and pay them, Well, where's money for nil?
Then where's all this money gonna come from it? Look,
I feel bad. I know, I know billion Nate Pier.
I've talked to him multiple times. He's a great guy.
But you're the Gators ninety thousand. You got to put
up a fight in these football games.
Speaker 3: And what's interesting to me just watching them on the field. One,
they don't have any dynamic players. Maybe one or two,
but that ain't what the old four would have, six
or seven guys that will be just electric kind of guys.
Offense and defense, they're trenches. The offensive and defensive line
is not very good. And you know that in this
conferences in the SEC. If you're not good in the trenches,
you got no chance, you know. And just again non
competitive you Again, you made a great point. If they're
losing by a field goal or a late touchdown, people
can live with that and they see progress. But just
when the game's over, in the middle of the second
quarter and halftime, that's the part that you can't tolerate
as a fan.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what's weird. It's year three. So in year one,
his first game ever as a coach, he had Anthony Richardson,
who's sound the start for the Colts, which was a
Dan Mullen recruit. They win that game against Utah, So
his first game as a coach, he goes out there
and wins. Last year, you forget this. Last year they
take on Tennessee under the lights, Tennessee's rank and they
beat Tennessee in a four quarter football game. They go
to five and two, and you're like, okay, And ever
since then, they can't win a football game against a
Power five opponent. That's what's so shocking. Where's the fight.
I'm not asking for twelve and zero, but come on,
this team right now is gonna go about one and eleven,
maybe get to three wins. If you look at it.
Speaker 3: Does you know there's some there's some turbulence with the
administration with the University of president. Does Scott Strickland survive
this or does he get to make another hire?
Speaker 2: No, there's no way. Because he hired Mullin and then
he got nappier. You can't let him keep hiring. You
know this better than anyone. If you're an athletic director,
you get to hire a basketball coach and a football coach.
That's what you get to do. And honestly, you're gonna
let him, hire a third coach? What are you talking about?
Let someone else do it? And and that's the problem
where you can't just fire Napier. You're gonna have to
get rid of Scott Strickland. Deili prom is if you
look at it this way, we're only in September. September,
you know, September seventeenth, eighteenth nineteenth, we're kind of midway
through September. Let's tell you fire him, then what do
all the players go into the transfer portal? What you know,
you still have a season to play. Who's gonna go?
Who's gonna coach the team in the interim? Do you
have to do what I was gonna say, Do you
have to do where kind of like Oklahoma did where
you know you had the coach lead for USC, so
then Stoops had to come out of retirement and coach
the team. But what would happen that?
Speaker 3: That's why I think they're not going to fire him
until after maybe the Texas game later on. I know
this decision may already be made, but I think they're
gonna let him stay until week eight, week nine, something
like that, because you don't want to have nine weeks
of an interim coach and chaos and the program players,
you know, guys that think that you know you're right,
the opportunity to leave potentially. That's why I don't think
they're gonna necessarily make a move this early, even if
they were to lose to Mississippi State and or Central Florida.
I think after the second buy is the time that
I think they truly officially pulled the plug.
Speaker 2: They're you think about it, if you have to fire
a coach restart, then you're gonna need two years for recruiting,
so you're you're ten years away. You know. It's It's
like I say, with my Chicago Bulls, we have a
concept of a plan since nineteen ninety nine. Okay, like,
what are you doing after a while?
Speaker 3: Do they hire a I mean, what if Scott Strickland
says I can deliver Lane Kiffin, I can deliver Dabo Sweeney,
I can deliver maybe a John Gruden kind of guy.
What if he says that you keep him?
Speaker 2: I think you might. You might. The question is, what are.
Speaker 3: You call the chaos in the university administration with the
university president. Who's gonna fire Scott Strickland to make that hire?
If you don't have a university president.
Speaker 2: Think about this, you're abso right. Think about what Miami did.
Miami really finally three years ago opened up the checkbook, right,
and they went got the athletic director from Clemson, who
knows what the hell he's doing. And then they went
out and got the coach who knew what the hell
he was doing for recruiting a Mario Chris Spaul. But
again they're in year three. This is a process. Can
you like the sixers? Can you trust the process and
let this out? Gator fans, I will say this, I
love him every year in the off season. Hey, if
we go eight and four, that'll be a good building block.
We can go nine and three, they'd be a great season.
The minute we play that first gate, they want twelve
to zero. They want to have greatness.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, let's go to Tallahassee. Disastrous start,
oh to three. Nobody in America thought this team would
be owen three. The disastrous loss at home to Memphis,
where Norvel used to coach, DJU continues to struggle. The
offensive and defensive lines, which were hyped nationally all all
summer as elite, have been nothing but average at best,
if not below average. Give me a thaw of what
you see up in Tallahassee.
Speaker 2: Well, like we said earlier, at least they're putting up
the fight. They're in all these football games. I mean
they're every even in Dublin and Tallahassee. I don't know.
Does Florida State have road games? I get very confused
by this sometimes, like every week because they're California at home,
and then I know they will. Florida and Florida State.
By the way, if you're an outside or doesn't in
the state, Florida and Florida State have the best ever
where you play about eight home games and then about
four road games. It's the best it is. I think
it's one of those things where, Okay, you won ten
games two years ago, he went thirteen and oh won
the conference. They gave the extension of Mike Norvell. They're
all in on Mike.
Speaker 3: He's only gotten two million dollars to walk out the door.
Speaker 2: Well, the admired the opening at Alabama really helped him out. Hey,
I might leave, he wont leaven It's one of those
things where they went all in on the DJU guy.
I don't understand and my Dad said this to me
the other day. I give him credit. He's like, well,
how bad are the backups? Then? But they can't get
on the field. Look what that's the problem with recruiting.
He's been there for more. He came in during the
pandemic year. I interviewed him that first year. And Mike
Grovel is a great guy as well, because I liked
him at Memphis. You can't recruit five star quarterbacks. You
can't your Florida State you're winning. I do understand it.
They always say this where the great teams like Alabama,
they reload. They reload, there's no rebuild. They reload. They
lost Nick Saban didn't missipate, right, but it looks like
Florida State. Can you look at that schedule. It is
a weak schedule. They should win ten or eleven games
this year, but right now I see them play four
quarters of football. This is a disaster and they should
think the Gators for how bad they are right now.
Speaker 3: Did Norvel overplay the transfer portal? You know, he's been
a king of the portal the last couple of years,
and it struck gold. And now you got a lot
of guys who don't look like they're much into the
team concept, not very motivated. Things have gone wrong, bad
evaluation of DJ. You never should have been the guy.
He was never great at Oregon State or Clemson. What
do you think of Norvell's philosophy, heavy portal, not nearly
as much high school recruiting to reload.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a lot of schools in college
football right now. I don't think it's just Florida State.
I think a lot of them are going hard on
the transfer portal. That's why there's gonna be no loyalty
in college football moving forward. If I'm on the bench,
if I'm third string, well I'm out of here. If
I'm not going to play, the hell with you, I'm
going to another school. They lost so many people, I
mean to the NFL Draft that they just they graduated
or you know, they left, and the leadership was so
mess I mean, yeah, I think you know this. If
you have a good quarterback, the rest of the team
will start competing hard. But when you saw Dju missing
wide open people in the end zone, you could have
made those throats, and it's like, what the hell is this?
Like they better be California. I think that's this is
the thing is Norvell's fine, novel's fine. But if they
have a season where they went two games, what what
is this exactly? You remember when Willy Taggart was there
and I think by was it year two?
Speaker 3: They downhill in a hurry with Willy.
Speaker 2: Dude, we were at an event. This is when I
knew we were in trouble because I used to get
Willy taggered on and I liked when he was at
South Florida. He was a good coach there. They won
a lot of games, so Taggart's could do. So we
d this event at the Kennedy Space Center with the
Revards Seminal Club. You would have loved it where Bobby
Bowden was there and this is kind of the end
of Bobby and dude. It was like meeting the Godfather.
It was awesome, like he is the man, so he's there.
Jeene Deckeroff, who was one of my favorites, he's there.
Lee Corso's there. Like if you are a college football fan,
this was a great event. And then someone walked into
the room and it was Willy Taggert and I know
Willy Taggert and like he didn't command the room, and
you kind of kind of like what's going on here,
Like you're the coach of Florida State, and I know
it's his dream job and he was at Oregon, but
he kind of knew then like maybe this isn't the guy.
And I got that vibes with Billy Napier as well,
like you don't command the room. And I bring this
up because it's like they kind of like, oh, this
isn't the guy. Mike Norvel is safe for right now,
but let's see how the season keeps going.
Speaker 3: Moving forward, I said, down to South Florida again, the
rise of the U. Are they back? Potentially? You got
Mario in year three, got a good recruiting class. He's
really trying to build it the right way, offensive and
defensive lines. They bring in cam wore the elite Washington
State quarterback and you've seen you saw what he did
in the swamp. He played the part beautifully, the most
electric quarterback Miami's had in a long time. Give me
a thought or two about what you like about Miami.
Speaker 2: Hurricanes have been bad for a long long time. You
and me were young men the last time they were
dominating college football, and that's sad to say that. Cam
Ward looks legit. My only concern is remember last year
they were undefeated and had momentum, and then they took
on Georgia Tech and then the game happened where they
didn't need the ball, and then they kind of knows
doc after that. That's kind of the thing where I
think if you ask Hurricane fans, I know they're excited,
they're fist bumping, and they loved beating the Gators loved it.
It's still wait and see it is. And I think
the key is maybe when they take on Florida State
and they if they can stop the Seminoles, maybe like
you know, by midseason, all right, you know we are legit.
Speaker 3: But they'll try to score fifty. If they can't on them,
they try to embarrass them if they can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the key is I think that
if you look at the college football playoff, you know,
the big ten in the SEC are going to gobble
up a lot of the different spots they are. If
you're the big twelve in the ACC, you better win
your conference or at least get the runner up, or
you're not gonna make the playoff. So you better If
you're Miami, you better run the tape this one.
Speaker 3: Loss at most, one loss at most for Miami.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. I think they have the firepower Mario. Finally,
I mean, what's the thing on him? He can recruit,
but can he can't manage the game? Can he manage
the game? That's a great that's the number one thing.
But kim Ward looks legit. And not only that, he
looks like he might be a ten NFL draft kick.
Now that's how good he looks right now.
Speaker 3: Sneaky good game. This week, Miami comes to Tampa Raymond
James Stadium the USF prime time Saturday night. Is this
a trap special here? And do you think us obviously
we know what Alex Golish is doing here building this program?
Is it? You know they played well at Alabama for
three and a half quarters two weeks ago. Is this
a trap game here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And South Florida should have been VAMA last year.
I think it is a trap game because I what's
crazy In hindsight, South Florida not making a jump to
a hour four like UCP did actually was great for
them because they stay in the American they get actual
real football coaches in there, and they're a competitive program.
And I think that's great for that area. I know
they need the stadium on campus, but so does Miami.
Speaker 3: They're building it. It's getting built.
Speaker 2: It's getting built, So that's gonna be really cool, and
I think it is. I think the key is if
you're Miami, you gotta still act like, hey, we have
a one jack and you know what you haven't and
you show that that should be. That should be a
great game. I'm interested to see. I know you live
in the area. What's the crowd gonna be?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Right, are there gonna be a lot of Miami fans
were gonna show up? What's that gonna be?
Speaker 3: Like, Jason, I would think there would be a good
amount of I was not encouraged. There was an artist
that came out in the paper early this week saying
they were just opening the upper deck at Raymond James
because of the which that's not a great sign to me.
If you're USF would Miami come into town that ought
to be sixty five seventy five? I mean that that
Stanium only holds sixty five thousand. If there's not sixty
thousand people in that building, whether it's Miami or USF fans,
that's a real that's a real black guy on us
F because they're you know, give the ad credit. He's
brought in Alabama, he brought in Florida, he's breaking in Miami.
If you're a USF and you want to be a
legitimate national team, you gotta sell that place out, even
if the Miami fans do show up.
Speaker 2: And you know what school also is. You know I
talked about this with Memphis. You know, Memphis got what
one point four million to play Florida State beat him.
It took the money, which is amazing. Hey, Memphis is
the American as well. Hey, they run the table, win
the conference, they can make the playoff. Everyone's eligible US seven.
Speaker 3: They win this game, they get Memphis in their building
on a Friday night in early October. That game could
be for the That game seriously could be for the
conference title and potentially the twelfth seed in the College
Football Playoff.
Speaker 2: You got to go to that, buddy, You got to
go to this game. That'll be an awesome game to
go to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so, I mean this is huge stakes
for USF. You get a national win over a top
ten team and then you win the American Conference with
maybe one more loss. You got a chance to be
you got a chance to be the power five, I
mean the non power five representative in this playoff bracket.
So huge opportunity for Alex Golish, Byron Brown in that
USF program. All right, last thing on the college and
we'll get to a couple of NFL things. You say, team,
you cover a lot, you know, very well, huge win
open opening weekend in the Big twelve, thirty five, thirty
four were in Fort Worth. Give me a photo or
two about Gus Malsonkaj Jefferson. Can this team be a
threat in the Big Jason?
Speaker 2: Okay, So last year I was there for the debacle
where they took on Baylor in their first ever Big
twelve game and they were up big and big and
then blew one of the biggest leads ever at home
and lost that game. And that is one of the
low points of the Gus MOUs On era.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: And they barely made a ball game last year. You know,
they got you know, just six wins or so. First year. Okay,
that win over the weekend was gigantic. You're absolutely right,
because they were down twenty eight to seven. I didn't
think they I don't know if anyone thought they'd come back.
But I'll tell you you talk about a dark horse
Heisman candidate. This sky RJ. Harvey has over five hundred
yards rushing and it's through three games, right and if
kJ Jefferson, if he can stay healthy. Maybe they got
a quarterback for the first time since mckinn Milton in
twenty eighteen. And they're at the box. They have the
buy right now and then they have a game at
the end of the month. The found out Colorado right
in two weeks. Yes, they have Colorado. They're still not
sure when the kickoff's going to be. They're still going
to figure that out.
Speaker 3: But it's in Orlando. It's in Orlando.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go I would screw with Colorado from
the standpoint, Hey, give me big newon kickoff, new kickoff.
Make sure it's ninety five degrees. Let them have the
two hour jet lag and let's rock and roll and
blitz them out of the building. That win against TCU,
it gives me this feeling. You know what, there is
no Texas, there is no Oklahoma. Maybe they can compete
for this. I know Utah is kind of the favorite
and they were voted to win it.
Speaker 3: Hurt, the quarterback hurt.
Speaker 2: I know, i'd open maybe you got a shot here.
They got it. Look, they got to lay the wood
on Colorado. They got to make a statement. And I
know Colorado they take on you know, like Mountain West
teams and then talk trash. Let's see Colorado beat somewhat good, right, like,
you know, because they got killed in Nebraska. So that game.
I've been to some great games. I don't know if
you've ever been there before the bounce Out.
Speaker 3: I went to the usf UCF game a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, see, that's that's always the competitive game. I
don't care. And I feel sad they're not playing that game.
Speaker 3: Any good environment so excellent. The Bounce House is a
not very good environment.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that place when they had college game Day
and that game at night again Cincinnati, that was awesome.
That And I think this game coming up, especially with
Dion in the crowd and and and the debate that
I've had, and you got to think about this, and
so should your viewers. In the history of the Bounce House,
what is the best player that's ever played there before?
Maybe for the opposing team, right, And I think Travis
Hunter might be because he could be a top five
draft pick. He might be one of the best players
to ever play at the Bounce House in the history
that young stadiums.
Speaker 3: All Right, I got I gotta tell the honors those
Are you watching this on the YouTube the video, Mark
Moses is wearing a a UCF Phantom National Championship hat
from twenty seventeen when they declared themselves mythical National champ.
Speaker 2: I get so many Okay, sobody, buddy Andy, here's the story.
So my buddy Andy Seely used to be athletic communications,
so I worked with them all the time. He's a
good friend of mine. And he's like, hey, Mark, Hey,
I got some for you. You know, And I don't
even know if they sold this as a hat. So
what's funny is like I'll wear it to do laundry,
and you know, like I'm like, oh, I got to
go to the store from it. I'll wear it. I
get so many dirty books from floored out floor State fans,
but I got it's one of my favorite teams.
Speaker 3: And at the Bounce South there's a moniker up up
by the press box twenty seventeen National champions Yeah, so
they are selling it hard, Buddy.
Speaker 2: It's and it's in the video game The College Football
like it's on it. Hey, I in hindsight, man, the
twenty eighteen team when Mackenzie Milton gets injured against South
Florida in Tampa. That team went undefeated at two straight years.
They if they had Milton. I'll take this to my grave.
That was one of the greatest teams of all time.
They could score on anyone. And I wish they were
in the twelve team playoff, I really do, because they
would have been great.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Dion, would he potentially ever be a candidate
at Florida? Would would they? Would they ever hire a guy.
Speaker 2: Like Deon no I because I know I don't think
he stays at Colorado, though I don't either. I think
his son and Hunter leave that. I just doesn't he
feel more like like Colorado is more you know, grounded
out when you think of the identity he needs to
get back to, Like even if it's a southern school,
more flashy where they you know they're gonna hide up
tempo offense. That's what it feels like he needs to
be at. Not in a Colorado and not in not
in the snow? Is that how you feel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I think I think. I think
he's going to pull the plug here as soon as
Hunter and Shador are done there if he gets it.
If he were to get an offer from a mid
level SEC type school, maybe even an a CEC school,
be getting closer to the south here, you know, Texas,
maybe maybe even a Texas school, I could see him Bolton,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: You know, he's another guy who I'm actually happy that
it worked out. He got another chance. Is manny Diez
where he said Duke, Look, he shook. Remember he was
the coordinator and then he was supposed to go to Temple.
But then two days later they're like, oh wait, you
can be the coach of Miami Elko.
Speaker 3: No Elko took the A and M job, which opened
with the Duke job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like that. I like that he got another
chance and he can coach. And by the way, if
you want to see one of the craziest games ever played,
go on YouTube and watch the highlights of that game
from two weeks ago where it's Duke and Northwestern with
five thousand fumbles. That's the game to watch.
Speaker 3: I got you, I got you, all right, you listen
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couple NFL notes, I'll get you out of here. Give
me a thought, What did you think last Thursday night
when he saw two of them?
Speaker 2: That was the worst game he's ever played as a
Dolphins quarterback. I saw the actual game. I watched it.
He was making so many mistakes. He had three interceptions.
I know, the first one was tipped and everything.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: That third one that was a roocky mistake Corre. I
know this gets lost in the shuffle because he got
the concussion. The third one he just like just throw
out of bounce, take the deck and it was a
pick six. That game exposed the Dolphins where okay, they
are better. Remember they used to be a basement team,
but they're better. They're competitive, they can make the playoffs.
But the Buffalo Bills just own them, own them in
that game, and the defense was atrocious. And then it's
like just slide, go down, what are you doing? And
then it was DeMar Hamlin. It was just like what
the hell is this right? And don't forget oh was
talking about that Friday. Everyone who does the sports show
was talking about that. And now today they said.
Speaker 3: Got put on ir on on Tuesday. So at least
four weeks and they have a buy in there, so
at least five weeks that he won't play. Yeah, is
this does he come back six, seven, eight weeks from now?
Does he play all this year? And then most importantly,
what does Miami do? Do they make a move in
season here to try to fortify that position because there's
still you know, a lot of people think they can
still be a playoff team potentially if they can get
a some production. Is Skylar Thompson the answer or a
name I threw out to you? Does Bryce Hunter? Bryce Young?
Excuse me? Do you potentially think about a third round
draft pick? Maybe do the Carolina for Bryce Young? Give
him a month to get ready and see what you got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question, and it's a great idea.
I mean, they got huntingly from Baltimore. He's gonna be
on the practice squad. Look, you're gonna go with Skyler
Thompson for a couple of weeks no matter what he
Remember he started the playoff game Buffalo two years ago.
They were points Yeah, better than they did against Kansas
City last year. And I just want to say this,
I like Tua. I like him, and remember he put
up gigantic numbers last year. The problem is when they
take on an actual team that can play defense, that
offense becomes a gimmick and they get shut down. I
am fascinated to watch this game this weekend where they
take on Seattle. I want to see what happens, because look,
if you are Tyreek Hill, you were ranked number one
by all the players Nfeld the number one player, you
better get me the ball. This season ain't over for me.
We better go win that game. I agree they have
to survive the next couple weeks and see if to
what comes back. I have no idea what's gonna happen,
but I went on other radio shows the last couple
of days where they're like, does he play? Yeah, I
think he signed a contract. I think he wants to
play again. That's what my guts tell me right now.
I think he does play later this year.
Speaker 3: I do too, but I don't think it's gonna be
for six or seven weeks. I think it'll be probably
week nine week tennis at the Earth because I think
they're gonna be super cautious with him on that. I
get it. I'm with you. I think ultimately it's his decision,
the NFL can't tell him not to play.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins can't do it.
Speaker 3: He's gonna, I think, competitive wise, he's gonna go out
and play one more time before, you know, because I
think I think partially he feels a little guilty because
of the contract he just signed, in the investment they
made in him. I don't think he's just gonna, you know,
I don't think he's gonna retire. I think you'll you'll
see him again week nine, week ten is something like
that would be my guess on him. All right, Jacksonville,
you're pretty close there. A terrible start, a blown game
in week one at Miami, another not very good performance
in Week two at home against a Deshaun Watson Cleveland
Browns team who was in disarray. Give me a thought
or two about Trevor Lawrence. What's going on there?
Speaker 2: I another another player that's making fifty million. But maybe
that's Look, maybe we need to just throw that idea
out the door. That's every quarterback. They're all gonna get
paid this now, that's the norm. What you're gonna get paid.
It's just it doesn't make sense you see him in person.
I've been to Jaguar practice where it's like you stand
by him. He was the number one pick. I get it.
He had Urban Meyer, he said, different coordinators. I get it.
But it's like it's year four. Why isn't it clicking?
And they get him weapons as well they do, I
don't understand. It's like and then that one drive in
the third quarter where he throws the sixty six yard
bomb to Thomas Junior Brookie catches it. They get set
up ETN scores and you're thinking like, okay, here we go,
let's get it going. But then other times on the
red zone they can't score. It just it feels like
they had that playoff game against the Chargers and he
played out of his mind. He really did.
Speaker 3: Terrible first half, unbelievable second half.
Speaker 2: That's his best game. And it's not he played you right,
he played for a half. It's like it hasn't clicked.
And after a while this season, because they're going to
be at Buffalo, I don't think they're winning that. Yeah,
I don't. What are you doing here?
Speaker 3: Peterson in trouble.
Speaker 2: I think if they don't make the playoffs, I think
he is because I think you've decided, Hey, we're all
in on this. Quarterback. We got to make this.
Speaker 3: He ain't going nowhere. He just signed a five year extension.
He ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: No, I know where's our extension?
Speaker 3: I want that right?
Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Last thing, I'll get you out of here. Give me
a thought or two about Baker Mayfield the Bucks. What
a huge win on the road in Detroit. They are
under the radar, ladies and gentlemen. Nobody's talked about this
team all year. All they've done is go out and play,
played great defense, shut down golf in their building. Mayfield's
playing really good new offensive coordinator. I really like what
I see in Tampa. And a very winnable game Denver
at home Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2: I was on with our guy t Krass. We were
on three sixty and before the season starts, and it's like, well,
is this team disrespected in my thought process at the time.
YE know, they are theird Tampa. You're not in the
NFC East. You have if you're a Buccaneers fan, you
got to come to this realization. You never gonna get
the love that these other big city market teams too.
But that's okay, Hey, stay at the one o'clock kickoff,
stay under the radar, make sure no one's paying attention
to you, and keep winning football games that win what
especially with the secondary bengdub was Giganny. I think Baker
Mayfield is an MVP candidate. He has saved his career.
And remember he's not making fifty million. What are some
other guys? He it's amazing. He is great, and Chris
Godwin looks like he's got a return in him where
he's been great through two games that division outside of Carolina,
those three teams Atlanta saved their season last night, and
that game we're gonna find out about the Saints. When
the Saints play the Buccaneers, that is gonna be must
sy TV. I know no one cares in New York
or Dallas or Washington, but man, I'll tell you in
the NFC South, that is gonna be must sy TV.
Speaker 3: And there's no dominant team in the NFC right now.
Nobody's no other than you know, Tampa and New Orleans
A probably the best two teams really if you really
assess it, the NFC is wide open.
Speaker 2: Here is completely open, and that's why it's so infuriating
with my Chicago Bears. If we could just get an
offensive line and score twenty points a game, We'll win
the damn NFC with our defense.
Speaker 3: How surprised are you that Caleb has struggled like he has,
But that's I knew that.
Speaker 2: See this thing, I knew that was gonna happen. He's
simbered playing before you coulda let you gotta give it
a second. Even last year with the Texan quarterbacks cej
strugg It takes a couple of games, right, That's why
preseason is a complete waste of time. It's trash. It
does not matter, youdo. If he if he can figure
this out, that's what I'm saying. We could just huver
around five hundred, let him click, and the defense is legit.
Speaker 3: The defense is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston didn't score anything in the second half on
Sunday Nights. Like they're right there and they have Keenan
Allen and Roma Dunesay skip. When they figure this out,
they're gonna be dangerous.
Speaker 3: I agree. Now, I'm with you. I think I think
you got a chance here if you can get to
the mid if you can, if you can tread water
to a mid season and let Caleb get up and
get his feet under him if he'll just play within
structure a little more and not try to play playground
ball seventy five percent of the time. I think you
got a chance to have a playoff team there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that division is going to be tough because
Green Bay. Yeah yeah, who would have thought if you're
a kal and a Panthers fan, Sam Darnold and Baker
Mayfield are the two best quarterbacks in the NFC right now,
and you have Andy Dalton.
Speaker 3: And you trade all the all the merchandise and all
the assets, you could have taken c J. Stroud, Would
you take Bryce Young?
Speaker 2: I think it would have been smarter in hindsight. We
can disagree to not do anything. Just stayed at the
ninth pick, try to get players, keep DJ Moore, keep them,
and then okay, you're taking and then next year you
would have gone Caleb Williams or one of these other quarterbacks.
They still have to give the Bears another pick, exactly, all.
Speaker 3: Right, Mark, Its a great job man, great analysis, state
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Speaker 2: That's right, keep it up, buddy.
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all around. Good dude, man, take care, We'll be in touch,
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Speaker 2: Thanks man, have a great night,