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going to get into the recruiting class at BYU for

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the twenty twenty six last I want to break it

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down in three phases. Right, you got your your your

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your freshman class, right. Some of those guys are gonna

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go on mission. Some of them will play immediately. You

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also have the transferportal class, which has been very strategic.

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I will break that down. And then you have like

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your return missionaries coming back. There's always a trifecta. Actually,

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forces there because we have essentially four different things that

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you're you're conversing about. But we'll delve into that with

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a college football recruiting expert and get his grade on

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Speaker 2: Let's get out to the hot line.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in the one the only Greg Biggins of on

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three and Rivals?

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Speaker 2: Greg, how you living?

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Speaker 3: Living pretty good? How are you guys doing good?

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Speaker 1: Doing pully doing awesome? Man, No no room for improvement.

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We feel too blessed to be street.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I wish I was living that kind of life,

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but good for you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's it like right now for you? Right?

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Speaker 1: Has the dust settled a little bit with all the

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craziness of the recruiting twenty four to seven three sixty

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five world that you typically live in.

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Speaker 3: Not even a little bit, So you know, it's kind

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of funny. I haven't done your show in a while,

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but to hear you introduce me as on three Rivals,

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I'm still getting used to that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, how long how long were you two seven

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and when did you make the movie?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I want to say like seven years or

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something like that. And you know, before that it was

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it was Scout dot Com. We kind of merged with

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two four seven, but I want to say it was

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like seven years. I think the easiest way to remember

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how we remember dats you know, who was the quarterbacks

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that were in that class. So, yeah, made the move

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a little bit before December. It's going, it's going well,

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but yeah, it's super busy. So doing have a little

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bit more on my on my plate right now in

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terms of, you know, covering recruiting. Before I was you know,

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kind of doing more just on the evaul side. Now

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it's covering recruiting and it's also still doing the grading

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and so with with Rivals. Have a big twenty twenty

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seven update coming up in a few weeks, I think

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at the end of the month. So right now just

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kind of grinding on that. And so you know, it's

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event season. There's always something going on every weekend, whether

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on five lineman competition, whether it be a you know,

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an under armoured camp, whatever, there's there's always and so yeah,

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year round, So still kind of trying to keep my

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Speaker 1: Hey, well, we appreciate you spending some time with us

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to kind of evaluate where BYU stands and they're recruiting.

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How would you evaluate how would you grade out the

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twenty twenty six class for BYU football this year?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was awesome. You know, I wish I

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had time I was going to try to actually go

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back and I know it was a you know, I

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want to say it was a top twenty five class

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right right around twenty to twenty five. I was kind

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of kind of go back over the last ten to

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fifteen to twenty years. I think it's our highest rated

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class in like a long time, right, Like, I don't

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and at least a decade, And you can kind of

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keep going back and back, so you know, I love

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what they did. It was a great year for talent

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in Utah, I think one of the better years for

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talent in the state, and they were able to get

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you know a Bywater, you know, a broad Cars, a Bond,

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a Lopetty Moala, the Puolo Toy. I mean, they really

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did a great job just in state. And then obviously

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off at the line and you signed you know, twelve receivers,

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your needs. So for me, it's it's need balance and

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then you also want to have that star power. So

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mean they got the quarterback, they got the running back

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to tight end the skill players. It just filled gaps

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everywhere all over the board. So I really liked the

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class a lot. Like I said, man to be labeled

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the point, but probably the best class that I've seen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's probably their best class ever. Quite honestly,

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five and seven, and then they've had an eleven and

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two and then twelve and two seasons. You know, you

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the best ROI.

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Speaker 1: You know in college football for the I guess the

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recruit that they get.

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Speaker 2: What does that speak to? Do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think it speaks to a lot of things. You know,

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obviously we'll say forever. This is not an exact science,

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and how they recruit, and obviously you know the wins

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it's if works out the way you're predicting it to

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and you've got to put together multiple top five classes

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for this to actually workout, right, can't just be a

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flash in the pan. But the way it's supposed to

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work is you put together a couple of top five,

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top teen classes and within a couple of years you

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should be a top five the top ten team. That's

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how it's cupposed to work. Obviously, there's always going to

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be an outlier. Indiana probably is the biggest outlier. And

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a lot of you know, a lot of people came

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in and I'll promise all tie this together. I'm not

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going too far off, too far off on a tangent,

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but you know a lot of people kind of came

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out with the whole stars don't matter. Indiana shows it,

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and you're kind of saying, you know, back up a

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little bit. There's this thing called an outlier.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: This is the first time, and you know in the

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BCS history that a team has one national championship that

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had under fifty percent of the roster made up of

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three stars. Usually every other national title in the BCS

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era had over fifty percent of the roster made up

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of four five star guys. While Indiana was unique was

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because they had about twenty three players that were fifth

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and six year seniors. That doesn't happen very often. I

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little bit of an older roster as well, because they have,

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go out and bully. And for years watching b YU,

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they're they're men up front, right, they bully guys, They're tough,

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they're physical. And Indiana, I mean you watch them. They

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were so tough, physical, upfront in that box many they

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were devastating. And I think they also had a generational

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coach in Kurt Sinnetti. So I think Indiana a little

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bit of an outlier. But the way it's supposed to

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work is the class, you know, should reflect wins, and

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will say, well, would the class become better the more

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times you win? Will that get recruits and or you

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and then you win the game. I think it kind

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of has you know, a little bit of an overlap

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for both. But you know, I think the way By

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used to play on the field, I think it should

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become a norm for them, honestly to have top twenty

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five recruiting classes. They have a great staff in place,

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and I think it's another I think the talent and

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you overall the last three or four years continues to

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come up again. Watching this twenty seven class I'm doing

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right now, another pretty good year for talent in twenty seven.

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So I think there's no reason why By you shouldn't

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be a perennial top twenty to twenty five team from

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a recruiting class down point, and then you should compete

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to see those nine, ten, even eleven win type seasons

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from the coops.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, there's a theory that is

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pervasive amongst cougarnation the fans, right, and this is a

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little bit of a maybe a persecution complex. Maybe it's

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because BYU athletics wandered the desert of the Whack, the

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Mountain West and then independence for so long, and we're

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stiff on by the power brokers of college athletics. They

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didn't invite them to the pit, you know, power for them, right.

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Speaker 3: I know where you're going I know already, so like.

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Speaker 1: Because of it, I know, No, I'm prefacing all this

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because like, yeah, look I cover you know, I'm a

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former BOU athlete, right, I cover.

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Speaker 2: BYU as as a media member and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So I get feel I mean, I have to field

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all this stuff, and I'm like, okay, Like I'm gonna

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ask the experts.

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Speaker 2: They believe that as soon as a BYU.

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Speaker 1: Recruit commits to their school, right, they could have been

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committed to any other school and then they decommit from

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that school and then they go to BYU and they

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signed with BOU, that their recruiting ranking drops.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard this theory?

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Speaker 3: You know, I've heard that theory by not just BYU,

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but about one hundred and fifty other schools. There is

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literally not a school alive that doesn't have that same

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exact complex of all of our guys. You know, it's funny.

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There's this thing called the Bama bump. Right, It's it's

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a pretty well known name for years and years. Right,

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you've probably heard that term, right, And every year it's always, oh,

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as soon as a guy gets offered by Bama or

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if he commits to Bama, and I promise you. This

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past year, I even heard people from Bama. I you know,

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because that's my job. I searched the message boards, you know,

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when i'm dropping intel and i'm I'll take a minute,

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I'll kind of scan the message boards. I promise you.

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Bama fans were even saying, dude, our guys are getting screwed.

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So and so just got dropped only because he committed

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to us, not thinking to myself, wow, a Bama fan

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is now actually complaining about a reverse Spama bomp. Now

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it's the Obama drop right, And it was because, oh,

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because we don't have save it anymore, and now all

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of a sudden, our players aren't respected as much. Literally,

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I promise you, there has never been a time and

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in my twenty four come at twenty four seven to

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my time with rivals, when we're sitting there, we're spending

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hours trying to you know, try to grade these kids

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and get it right. And we're taking like people would

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be shocked how much we take one player to evaluate

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one player. And it's a process. And again I've said

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it to you before, it's not just about how good

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you are in high school. It's an NFL draft projection.

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So we're big on measurables, not at an expense of tape.

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Tape matters one thousand percent. We watch so much tape

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it's insane. But we're also looking at things that the

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NFL draft values, and that could be things like armspan,

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could be things like wingspan, could be things like, you know,

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multi sport background. You're looking for a full athletic profile.

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And there were plenty of guys who committed to BYU

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that actually moved up after the fact, and I you know,

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Adam Bywater, Junior Maala, there's a number of them who

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actually moved up and because the senior tape was not

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just good, but then you kind of evaluate the player.

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For example, a junior Mahala. Right, here's a guy with

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near an eighty inch wingspan, who's a higher athletic kid

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with a big frame, who's obviously the game tape put

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up huge numbers. I honestly don't know who was in

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the State Flayer of the Year probably should have been him,

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put up incredible numbers and his ranking was bumped up

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after the fact. So and there's guys like that in

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every single school. So it's again kind of a long

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winded way of saying in all of our meetings, there's

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never been a time where we said, you know what,

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he's gonna go to b YU. You know what, let's

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let's drop his ranking just because we want to that guy.

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Just that doesn't we're trying to get this right. Ideally,

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we're trying to get every kid right and are trying

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to project to the draft. Hey, this guy's the first rounder,

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that he should be a five star. If he's going

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to be, you know, drafted between rounds two through four,

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he should be rated in this spot. And that's kind

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of how we do it. And so what school you choose,

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I promise you it really doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I love the commentary.

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Speaker 1: I think it needs to be addressed with so many

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conspiracy theories out there, and you know, quite honestly, some

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of these conspiracy theories sometimes they come true. So I

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appreciate you delving into that, mister Greg Biggins. Now let's

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talk a little bit about the class you have, the

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transfer portal class, right, b YU was a little bit

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more strategic than other schools.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many schools were like at that

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ten or under mark with acquisitions via the portal. I

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imagine that that was not common, only acquiring ten guys

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via the portal.

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Speaker 3: You know what I think is that what it was?

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Always signed ten portal guy. I think, yeah, they got

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we're dude like Walker Lions and Packie. Now I'm a

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big fan of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But you know, honestly, I think if you're signing again,

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DYU is unique, right, you would know better than I would.

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I know, their high school classic extremely well. Nine guys.

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Speaker 1: Nine guys Roger Saliapaga from Oregon, Javin Williams from Mississippi State,

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Zach Yamauchi offensive lineman from Stanford, Kato Luave from cal

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Jake Clifton from Kansas State, Kyler Casper from Oregon, Junior

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Sea from Utah State, Pockey fenw from Washington, and then

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Speaker 2: That's what they That's what they got.

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Speaker 3: I like most of those guys. Now, what I was

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gonna say was, I think you would know more than

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I would the return who's coming back? Right?

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Speaker 2: So you know you retained.

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Speaker 1: They retained a lot of their their players outgoing transfers.

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Speaker 2: You have Shaye Bryant Strawther.

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Speaker 1: He's injured though, Pokahunga is leaving, Max Alfred's leaving, Tavon

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Beasley's leaving, and uh, you know a lot of young

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pups Sonny Tuala, Sionihananoe, Tucker Keller, Ikeanascio Tupo. Some people

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would view that one as it lost. He was a

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high level three star. Jake Griffin ended up at U

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of a Dom McKinzie. So there were some losses. Le

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Mason Waller the third left to Suu. There were some

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losses there, but no like major key contributors that weren't

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coming off injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm more curious. So how many returned missionary you are

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coming back though?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So return missionaries? Uh, kind of interesting here. I think

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there were about six or seven that they are inviting back.

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So owen Borg owen Borg Canyon. He was from Corner Canyon,

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I believe. I'm trying to think if there was like

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any like high level guys though that were were like.

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Speaker 2: Big time recruits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm trying to think I should have a

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list of these guys I'm pouring up right, Like.

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Speaker 3: Like Reiner Swansa, he's not coming back yet, right, He's

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got to know is not.

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Speaker 2: Coming back, but he's going to be a baller like

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he's definitely, no.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying he'll be. He'll be an impact

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guy for sure. I was just thinking about him and

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their day.

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Speaker 2: Don't know why.

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Speaker 3: I think it was because I was I was at

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the beach and I know he was a big surfer

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and whatever. That's kind of weird how how his name

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pumped into my head. But no, so I think when

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you add the return missionaries to the portal class, that's

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probably a solemn group. And then again, if you're not

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losing anything, I think in a perfect world, I think,

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tell me old school, and I get this as kind

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of I'm an outlier, but I still think you want

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to build that. You know, build with high school classes.

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I think if you have a if you trust your

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ability to develop, you know, if you can have a

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guy who's you signed a twenty five member freshman class

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and you're able to develop those guys for three years

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and by the time those guys are junior and seniors

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and they know your system and they know your strength habits,

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they know you're nutrition, they know how your coach like,

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that's such an advantage. And then getting a guy who's

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coming in, who's been somewhere else for three years? And yeah,

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I get the instant gratification. And I'm not saying you

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shouldn't pick your spots. You absolutely should the portal, you know,

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I mean that was Dabo Sweeney's probably biggest air was

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he was kind of hard headed say you know what,

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I'm not going to use the portal because that's almost

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admitting defeat. You know, It's almost I could saying, hey,

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I didn't recruit well out of high school. I want

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to trust my guys. I think you still want to

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pick your spot. I think between five to ten is perfect. Now,

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if there was like a dude, right, a quarterback, an

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elite first round, second round receiver, he wants to come,

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you take that guy one hundred percent. But I still say,

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build from high school. And I think that's what by

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you did this year, and I'm for it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: As far as the return missionaries go, there was no

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key headliners Owen Borg, Matthew, Frederick Tighten and East Blake

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low linebacker, Jet Nelson wide receiver two week Putu Tao.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what his recruiting raak was.

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Speaker 1: Adney read to me, is a really nice prospect but

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under recruited. D N David Tungu i Lanu defensive tackle

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in an enok Wat at American Leadership Academy. At quarterback,

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I actually Loki really like Enick Watson. But those are

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those were the turn missionaries that were part of class.

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I don't think it necessarily bumps your recruiting ranking. A

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lot of these guys for the three star guys, but

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I think it overall it's a really good class, best

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class in BAU football history. From a freshman class, A

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lot of those guys will go on mission, some of

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them will play, and then a really nice trean. What

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grade would you give the transfer portal class real quick?

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Those nine guys, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, I think they're all. I think they're all

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really good players. I know probably at least five or

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six of them really well invers of gaming them a grade,

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if we're just like an individual player grade, I would

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give it a solid, you know B. Plus. I can't

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really say, you know, what is it compared to other schools,

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because again some schools probably in like fifteen to twenty.

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But from an individual standpoint, I see at least four

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or five guys right there that I think could the

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impact players run away and at least three or four

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that I should be drafted. So I give it high

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marks for sure.

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Speaker 2: Love it, Greg.

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Speaker 1: Best way to support you what you do, how you

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do it for all of our listeners that are in

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and in today.

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Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, I mean I don't need. I mean just

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you know, come on, no you need.

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Speaker 2: What's your what's your Twitter? What's your Twitter? At Greg Biggins?

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Make sure you subscribe to Rivals and on.

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Speaker 3: Three right, all that good stuff. Yeah, Rivals on three

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at Greg Biggins. I lost my Twitter. I got it back,

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Thank God for that. So yeah, but yeah, there you go.

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Those are those day avenues.

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Speaker 1: Hey, appreciate you, Greg, always a pleasure, always blessing. Thank

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you talking ball with you. Thanks for talking some recruiting

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today on our show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you make it fun for me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Zach Ericsson, former bou wide receiver, defensive back and now

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the head coach of Snow College Football, will get his

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thoughts on the changes of college football, how it's impacted

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the junior college ranks, and also feature some of the