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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, everybody. This is part two of our Love

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<v Speaker 1>Is Blind coverage of season nine, episodes ten and eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're right up on it. I mean, we're up

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<v Speaker 2>on all this shit now. If you didn't listen to

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<v Speaker 2>part one, we got a little heated. We got into

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<v Speaker 2>a huge fight. Yeah, Stephanie loves Ali. I love Anton.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a black eye, which is not fair that

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Do you apologize for that? No.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at the end of the day, we both

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<v Speaker 2>agree that neither of them are great. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't necessarily see it in Ali. But

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<v Speaker 2>I got myself worked up because I'm like, this girl

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<v Speaker 2>is not here for this. I just don't like the

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<v Speaker 2>like because you know what it is, you said, you

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<v Speaker 2>called it. We sort of recognize ourselves. So you're harder

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<v Speaker 2>on Anton because you see yourself there. I'm harder on

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<v Speaker 2>Ali because I see myself there. I see myself trying

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<v Speaker 2>to just like stay in as crazy chaotic nonsense, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I have an only chance hold on though

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<v Speaker 1>minute you're saying I see myself more as Anton, because

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<v Speaker 1>then you would think that I would empathize, empathize. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I think it's different. I think it's more.

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<v Speaker 1>You think I'm judging him more harshly because I see

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<v Speaker 1>it in myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're seeing the things that I'm probably somewhat weirdly

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<v Speaker 2>like attracted to. Right, And then I see the things

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<v Speaker 2>I've done with Ali, going like, but hold on, but

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<v Speaker 2>how many beers? But you said four, but there's seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done that, right, And I totally do that, And

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm Matt. I'm more annoyed with that because I

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<v Speaker 2>see myself in it. Also, I don't think she's I

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<v Speaker 2>think she's not. I just I don't trust her. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why. I know she's not the worst of them.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a nice you know, there's a lot of nurses.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember how many nurses are on The Bachelor. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>real job that she wants to quit and become an

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<v Speaker 2>influencer full time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is so we do the same, So do

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<v Speaker 2>they all? I know that is true, and so do

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<v Speaker 2>we we? Who am I kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? If we were famous from Rose Pricks,

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<v Speaker 1>if some more people could leave us some like five

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<v Speaker 1>star reviews and we both quit law school, get into

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<v Speaker 1>our Patreon, get on our Patreon and well, I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to stop doing this then then we're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna feel validated. We're we're gonna have we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to stop saying like do you guys love us? But

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<v Speaker 1>do you? Because it feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>We love the audience, we love you, we love you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't. We won't wear our skin, I'll wear

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<v Speaker 2>your skin.

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<v Speaker 1>This doesn't feel like you guys are one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel like if you were one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd all be at the twenty five dollars level. It

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like we're more invested down your chilupas is

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<v Speaker 1>what we're saying. Now, tell us about I think it

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<v Speaker 1>might be a good time to Yeah, I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. Oh oh, I I accidentally got out of

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<v Speaker 1>that hold on. Okay, never mind, let's what's on next?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so wait, we're done with them, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, like, I know I was hard on her.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of hard on her.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, yeah, I guess I see some of myself

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<v Speaker 2>and again yeah, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on. I kind of move on. Oh but

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<v Speaker 1>let's do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, let's do Joe. They're both great, They're equally great.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do Joe and Madison. That was that was pretty heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not take like a relationship expert to see

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<v Speaker 2>when they're meeting, like when he's meeting her family, how far.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen two people sit so far apart, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>next to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was rough that she didn't see it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>could totally see why she didn't see it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have to say I have full empathy for you. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>Steph texted me that she's Madison is Delulu, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were talking about Aunnie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I think you got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't see her as she yeah, she's Delulu

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<v Speaker 2>and that she thought this guy loved it, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was probably saying he loved her.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sleeping with her, you know, like I think for better, family,

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<v Speaker 1>for better, for worse, and it is for worse. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong. I am not team Joe. But

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<v Speaker 1>he told her straight off the bat, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not attracted to your body, which that is harsh

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<v Speaker 1>and I am that is not okay, But he said

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<v Speaker 1>that to her and then he went ahead and slept

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<v Speaker 1>with her anyway, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he's because he's distant and emotionally unavailable, and he

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<v Speaker 2>told us he ran, he got engaged and then like

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<v Speaker 2>bowed out after they sent out the invitations. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, he's a hot, he's a he's a fucking

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<v Speaker 2>player for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>He went on this.

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<v Speaker 2>He also wrong reasons, and I really felt so I

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<v Speaker 2>felt when she cried. I felt like I felt every

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<v Speaker 2>inch of that, like he he oh that kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Man sucks And I defended him before. But maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>should tell you, guys. I mean, you already watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>so we don't need to tell you every single thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happened. But we could see his distance from far away.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it did not help when her mom was like,

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<v Speaker 2>so when she goes blind in like a year, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like take care of that, right, And he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>even though he knew that and said yes.

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<v Speaker 1>After the pods, it was cold as ice. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a case of what this is. He is a bad

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<v Speaker 1>case of what the last couple had, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>want to stay on this show. I am going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an influencer if it fucking kills me. If I

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<v Speaker 1>have to be a what's this? Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a great SNL reference. Male prostitute. What's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Fred Garvey, male prostitute. He's just like I will,

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<v Speaker 1>I will fuck her. I will. I will get drunk

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, and I will sometimes overshoot the mark

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<v Speaker 1>and then have to go have a nap. But I

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<v Speaker 1>will fake it till I make it, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>will say no at the altar. And it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like killing him. He did it, let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just like I don't think he ever thought

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to marry anybody. He thought I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the show. I think he's too good looking

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody who would even be on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's some stuff about her from something called She Knows.

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<v Speaker 2>This is some a little bit of about both of them,

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<v Speaker 2>Madison Maidenberg. That was her last name, Maidenberg. How ironic,

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<v Speaker 2>that's maiden interesting. Maidenberg and Joe Ferucci are not holding

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<v Speaker 2>back their thoughts about each other after their appearance on

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<v Speaker 2>Love Is Blind season nine. Joe was a tween nine

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<v Speaker 2>year old sales professional and Madison twenty eight year old

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<v Speaker 2>porn star.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have it said that she has a ux designer.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a light hearted, giggle filled connection in the pods.

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<v Speaker 2>But things got off to a rocky start. But we

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<v Speaker 2>already know all that we want to get to now,

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<v Speaker 2>so they broke up in today's episode, it says on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, after leaving his wedding suit fitting in a

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<v Speaker 2>state of panic, Joe tells Madison that she's not his person,

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<v Speaker 2>which he said over and over. He was so fucking

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<v Speaker 2>cold he did. He could have said that all the

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<v Speaker 2>things like it's it's me, I'm fucked up. No, he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, you're not the person. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be miserable.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye. Like he was the fucking worst.

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<v Speaker 2>She even after she pleads with him, which I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think she even really hardly did that. She was totally

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<v Speaker 2>normal for a better explasion. You don't think so, No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she cried and sad. I think she was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually she like cried for like fifteen minutes, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, well bye. I mean, who wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>cry if you really thought that that was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be your guy. He's just a little he's a little

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<v Speaker 2>distant loof that's our hot Joe it's what he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's sleeping with her.

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<v Speaker 1>What is she supposed to just be like? Okay, cool, cool?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't. I almost don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>say to that because I saw it so differently and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you're totally wrong. No, I'm just kidding. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>it is so funny. It's funny about this show that

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<v Speaker 1>you can really look at something and two people see

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<v Speaker 1>it very differently. And I see this and reddit because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this show is very polarizing with the couples,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like and we're going to see it with

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<v Speaker 1>KB and Edmund. Like people get I'm so team Edmund.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a whole different thing. Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth. But I also agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are a lot of people that are a

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore team maybe which at We're going to get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's finish out with these guys. Let me read you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have hard to read you here, do do do? So? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So Madison claimed that she developed an eating disorder after

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<v Speaker 2>comments Joe made about her looks, which you said last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I read that too. Joe didn't mention to me that

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<v Speaker 1>he usually dates you know, more petite women.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how he said it, you know, Okay, so we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that when he went on the That was

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<v Speaker 2>last week on Nick's Yall's show.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. She says she's healthy now, but added that watching.

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<v Speaker 2>The show, which was filmed in the spring of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, has been disheartening. So this is after the fact,

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<v Speaker 2>after today's thing episodes. I'm trying to get to where

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<v Speaker 2>they said that. Joe, meanwhile, did we talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>responded to Madison's comments about her eating disorder in US Weekly. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, kind of a horrible feeling on my end

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<v Speaker 2>if that's something that affected her long time, long term

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<v Speaker 2>for a little while or or a little while after.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a surprising comment. Madison's always been very confident

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<v Speaker 2>in her body image, but you never know how somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>feeling inside, especially if you tell them they're fat. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean it to affect her that way. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing to hear. So somehow he makes it

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<v Speaker 2>about him right completely, and then he admitted that the

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<v Speaker 2>couple did have a great sex life, but added it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the foundation for a marriage. Oh this fucking piece

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<v Speaker 2>of shit, he said, it was hard, he said. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what he means, it was hard. There's no common ground. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm to blame for my part in that he did say.

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<v Speaker 2>I can say that wholeheartedly, and I think somebody else

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<v Speaker 2>would be a great match for her. Well, he should

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<v Speaker 2>have said that to her, but he didn't even say

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<v Speaker 2>one nice thing to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm mmm, no he didn't. I'm telling you. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not there for the right reasons. But he

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, I think he's so sweet or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You were kind of siding, Yeah, I know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he could not have been more obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>into her. So now we don't know. Again, Yes, he's

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping with her, I don't know how often, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>having sex with her, but he's not being nice to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she was acting so completely shocked that this

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<v Speaker 1>ignoring every sign. Oh, I'm so I'm so unteened, Madison.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you. He thinks he's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>He's grown a very comedy mustache, like a very hipster

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<v Speaker 2>comedy mustache, and he's making like content videos now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying anybody can't do whatever they fucking want.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love a co but like he's I

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be funny? No, because I know they

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. Yeah, I don't remember him being funny, but

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's so brush. But we saw this coming. But

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<v Speaker 1>also we also talked about the fact that she is

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<v Speaker 1>overreaction to him being drunk where she was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you don't know where you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and he was he only did that once. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but he should have broken up with her then, Like and.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, don't forget the other arguments they had where she

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<v Speaker 1>was so over the top and like crying and like,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you love me? I mean she's had these

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I forgot about this super nutty and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I think that it was interesting because so

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<v Speaker 1>they all the men go to try on suits, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tries on the suit and I think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>in defense of what you're saying, his brain was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I look pretty freaking good in a suit. I can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see myself on TV in this suit. But

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<v Speaker 1>then he basically had a panic attack of like, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be with Madison.

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee he's going to be the next Bachelor. I

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<v Speaker 2>almost could like, I can see it coming. You'd be

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<v Speaker 2>exactly if that's what they're going that way, they should

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<v Speaker 2>just go that way. Do we have the runner Frankie

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<v Speaker 2>Frankie Taylor Ball or whatever? We have to I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's our job, Taylor me now, all right, So they

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<v Speaker 2>split up, but I just think she handled it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she cried and was sad and then was like

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was. I thought it was sad, and

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<v Speaker 1>Felt for her. We should listen. We should recount though,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that so the cameras catch her crying and

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<v Speaker 1>packing a suitcase, and we find out what was I

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, well, no, go ahead, sorry, Well so

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<v Speaker 1>he did it. He had already broken up with her,

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<v Speaker 1>he left, so then they have to reach I have

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<v Speaker 1>to have this is so reality TV. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>he broke up with her. Obviously he said something he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just like slip out the back jack, make a

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<v Speaker 1>new plan, stand right, He broke up with her, So

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<v Speaker 1>she's crying and she's like, yeah, he left, like he's gone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Then he comes back in and they have

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<v Speaker 1>to have this super awkward conversation where he has to

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<v Speaker 1>rebreak up with her for the camera. That's very bachelory.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very bachelory. So that therefore I felt like her

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<v Speaker 1>tears were very put on because she already in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, she already knew this, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>she's having to redo it for the cameras, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think she built this life with this guy that was

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<v Speaker 1>never that guy. I don't like, oh, I just oh

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<v Speaker 1>my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, when we talked about Annie and Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>we forgot to talk about how when he was breaking

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<v Speaker 2>up with her and she went totally crazy and like

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<v Speaker 2>laughed in the middle of crying. She then started texting,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, Okay, I can't have this conversation if

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<v Speaker 2>you're on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I screenshot it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you did too, or I just like paused

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<v Speaker 2>it to see and she was texting someone it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like from Love is Blind. She's like yeah, She's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>things are not good. Doesn't look like the wedding, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was the other person because then she

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<v Speaker 2>wrote yeah because Nick that you just see that she's

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<v Speaker 2>still typing something about Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>So she and she won't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like text text sex sex text. She's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to end it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm trying to order more chlopahs. You said

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<v Speaker 1>you love chelopahs. God, I'm going to make you love that.

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<v Speaker 2>She was texting someone from the show about how he

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<v Speaker 2>was breaking up with her mid breakup, like he'd only

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<v Speaker 2>been breaking up with her for like thirty seconds, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like immediately on her phone like that's how

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<v Speaker 2>meta this show is. She's so, I can't believe we

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<v Speaker 2>forgot that part that was in part one, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>but please, well what about after that when he's like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm breaking up with you and she's like, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not. You're not absolutely not, You're not doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like okay, but I am like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>definitely breaking up with you, and she's like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't have it. I just know. Uhh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's why I think by comparison, Madison did

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<v Speaker 2>a much better job at least if.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to look at it like that how about?

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<v Speaker 1>And then she goes and then she goes, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe you're just so cold and like you're not even

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<v Speaker 1>like gonna hug me, And he goes, I can do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I can hug you, and she goes, you mean Joe

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe, Yeah, Joe and Madison, And she goes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>just forget it. I don't even need a hug.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but he was being like a sociopath like

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<v Speaker 2>cold as I mean, he's he's pretty awful. She deserves

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<v Speaker 2>better and she will have better and you will be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna will be fine. She's gonna need to get

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<v Speaker 1>her emotions under control. She's very dysregulated.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna get like mega chlamydia. He's gonna get the

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<v Speaker 2>one that can't be treated. He's gonna have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sex, and he's gonna get the one that like

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<v Speaker 2>is antibotic antibiotic resistant.

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<v Speaker 1>You think, as you're holding a voodoo doll in your

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<v Speaker 1>hand right now and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm holding Madison, like, I'm like, you don't understand we

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<v Speaker 2>are I like her, I really did, and I for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have like selective memory of the that was crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's nuts too, moments that one time, but I still, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still I have I have strong opinions about these

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<v Speaker 2>people that I've never met.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but there were a couple of times she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just the one time when he was drunk. There's been

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<v Speaker 1>other instances of her being crazy over the top, like

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<v Speaker 1>crying and anyway, let's move on. Yeah, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about cave be An Edmund because they are

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<v Speaker 2>our next most interesting couple. Yes, I if I'm putting

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<v Speaker 2>a voodoo curse on someone, I would have it that

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<v Speaker 2>KBSD yell at them for is she like a dominatrix

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<v Speaker 2>or something?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck? Oh my god, people, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>how people can sew hardcore be on her side. But

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying, okay, so so people are saying the

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<v Speaker 1>people that are pro her are saying that they feel

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<v Speaker 1>that he must be a total like doctor Jackyll mister Hyde.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I could see, I could totally see that. I

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely can see what she's saying. She just doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to say it so long. I completely and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>her actually, and I could see why she'd be annoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, my god, okay, so we shut out Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back though. Let's let's let's start from the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning with them in these episodes. So we start out

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<v Speaker 1>they are this couple is in one long fight for

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<v Speaker 1>this entire show, from the time they're out of the

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<v Speaker 1>pods to the end of the show. I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be fighting at the altar. They'll be bigger. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm but I'm really sad for him. Listen, I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe he's doing things for the camera and all

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<v Speaker 2>that bullshit. I believe her, but like, he's also been

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<v Speaker 2>deeply abused, and I think she's totally using that to

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<v Speaker 2>manipulate him. She like gets off on yelling at him,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we said this last week. She yells at

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<v Speaker 2>him so she can fix him. She's like a cult eater.

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<v Speaker 2>She breaks him down because she knows he's easy to

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<v Speaker 2>break down. She tells she fills him with like so

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<v Speaker 2>much doubt and like shame and then builds him back up.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a he found somebody somehow, he subconsciously found somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to repeat like the foster mother thing. Yes, he found

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to emotionally abuse him and makes me so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's trying to replay it. He's trying to like

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<v Speaker 1>be like win her love and approval, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>very manly. You know. It's not okay, like regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's but I can say that for them because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's she's trying to do that, like you're not

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<v Speaker 1>being a man, you know, So it's not very manly

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<v Speaker 1>to her. She's replaying something. Yeah, so she wants him

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<v Speaker 1>to like be a man, but she chose somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>trapped as a little boy, right, and then she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to punish that little boy. And he chose somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be super punishing and he's going to never

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<v Speaker 1>be able to figure out how to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So what he does is he just checks on out.

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<v Speaker 1>He mentally goes away. He disassociates, I think, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when he does that, she gets even madder and she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to like make him understandlogized. Yes. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, he just posted eleven hours ago on

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<v Speaker 2>Insta and it's posted.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so cute. It's a little video. I love him

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote, it's my thirtieth birthday today, so that's today

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<v Speaker 2>as we're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his thirtieth birthday right now, So happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy birthday, sweet pie, and it says, and what better

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<v Speaker 2>way to celebrate than with a home tour Freestyle at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine at twenty six ninety, I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>give him a shout South Newport Street in Denver because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a realator. I guess right, the guest is showing

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<v Speaker 2>is he a realator? Is he just showing his own house?

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<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't give his own address. No, no, no, he's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sell this house. So it has a whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing like highlights, classic myths. Oh my god, it's ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred square feet. Oh no, the whole lot is

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, that's pretty big. Yeah, listing agent, it's him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's with Compass, which is a big company. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so proud of him. He's a realator. Okay you probably

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<v Speaker 2>probably most people knew that. But he's doing a really

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<v Speaker 2>cute video where he's dancing around and showing the house,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just I just god, I've never rooted for

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<v Speaker 2>someone so hard on this show. I love him so

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<v Speaker 2>much and I hope he finds love, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to put him with Madison kind of maybe they could work,

418
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<v Speaker 2>she'd be really kind to him.

419
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<v Speaker 1>You don't think I think he has some healing to do. No,

420
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<v Speaker 1>I know heal people, heal people and hurt people. Hurt people,

421
00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:16.480
<v Speaker 1>she said. We talked about that and also in part one.

422
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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so they so they're when we get to

423
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<v Speaker 1>them in episode ten, they're finishing on a fight from

424
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<v Speaker 1>before where again right where they're still having the fight

425
00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:34.359
<v Speaker 1>from the Western night and she she starts out and

426
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<v Speaker 1>I knew this would trigger you. It triggered me. That's

427
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<v Speaker 1>why I knew it would trigger you, because we do

428
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<v Speaker 1>think the same. We have the same emotional reactions, and

429
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<v Speaker 1>then we analyze I think a little differently. But it

430
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<v Speaker 1>was so awful because she's like, you are going to

431
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<v Speaker 1>let me fucking talk. You're gonna shut up and you're

432
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<v Speaker 1>gonna let me talk. And he's like, okay, I'll let

433
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<v Speaker 1>you talk. She's like, oh my god, you won't let

434
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<v Speaker 1>me talk. I'm going to tell you my side of

435
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<v Speaker 1>this situation and uninterrupted, and he's like okay, and she's like,

436
00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:06.960
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, there you go again. You can't even

437
00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:10.279
<v Speaker 1>let me talk. And he's like he doesn't know what

438
00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to do. He's frozen in fear. He's paralyzed with fear.

439
00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:15.839
<v Speaker 1>And this is where I started to see him like

440
00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:20.599
<v Speaker 1>leaving his body, like going somewhere else. And then I

441
00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:22.839
<v Speaker 1>wish that there had been the editors had had a

442
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:24.759
<v Speaker 1>little fun with it. And then one of those like

443
00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:27.519
<v Speaker 1>she's talking, talking, talking, and then they fast forward and

444
00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>she's still talking. Then they fast forward to you know

445
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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, because because she was retelling the story,

446
00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.039
<v Speaker 1>but it was like, girl, we saw it, we saw

447
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<v Speaker 1>it on camera, and it's not changing to be more

448
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<v Speaker 1>in your favor. The way you're telling the story. It sounds,

449
00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:46.519
<v Speaker 1>she sounds punishing, She.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Is out of her fucking mind. And then she manipulates

451
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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not that girl. I'm not that girl that yells.

452
00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:54.359
<v Speaker 2>You're making me yell. That is such a classic abuse

453
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<v Speaker 2>line that if I've ever seen one. She's taking this

454
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<v Speaker 2>guy who is very emotionally raw, has had all.

455
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Kinds of shit.

456
00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:02.519
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying she hasn't had her own shit,

457
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.160
<v Speaker 2>like I'm sure that she has, but like that is

458
00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>so abusive. You're making me somebody, You're making me yelling. Yeah,

459
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.599
<v Speaker 2>you're making me a like my god, I just want

460
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<v Speaker 2>to hug him.

461
00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>And then so then too, Then he says but before

462
00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:19.400
<v Speaker 1>so then he says, Okay, he's trying to come up

463
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<v Speaker 1>with something, and I got to tell you that I

464
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:24.039
<v Speaker 1>have been there with my stepfather, so I know this

465
00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:27.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of abusive tactic where you better come up with

466
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.599
<v Speaker 1>something that you did wrong and it better be I amievable.

467
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<v Speaker 1>So because I would be told like, you have to

468
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.519
<v Speaker 1>apologize to him or he's basically my stepfather would like

469
00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:39.880
<v Speaker 1>go long periods of time without speaking to me, and

470
00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it would be very uncomfortable and I would try to

471
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<v Speaker 1>fix it. Then my mom would say, you have to

472
00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 1>apologize to him. He's waiting for an apology. I literally

473
00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:49.480
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have done anything. So then i'd have to come

474
00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>up with something and say it and sometimes he'd accept it,

475
00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes he'd be like nope, and I feel like

476
00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what he So he's like okay, he goes, yeah, well,

477
00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.839
<v Speaker 1>well I'm really sorry that like I walked away. I

478
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have done that. That was disrespectful. And then she

479
00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:10.559
<v Speaker 1>does that like hmm, I don't know, like I don't

480
00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:12.559
<v Speaker 1>know if it's enough, Like I don't know if you

481
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.480
<v Speaker 1>really under She's like, but do you understand what you

482
00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:21.799
<v Speaker 1>did wrong. She's just being a parent. She's she's him yes.

483
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Or like a nun teacher, you know, like god, it

484
00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:28.079
<v Speaker 2>was really hard to watch and right, so just finally

485
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 2>so he's like, I got it. So then she's all mad.

486
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>He comes in, this is the end in episode eleven.

487
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.519
<v Speaker 2>He comes in with flowers, and you're like, let me speak.

488
00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, like I want a god

489
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:39.400
<v Speaker 2>chose you. There's nobody else that I would ever choose.

490
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:42.759
<v Speaker 2>And I'm so sorry. And then anytime when she we

491
00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>don't and then she makes some pun she makes them wait,

492
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.160
<v Speaker 2>she sits there stone faced, before she's about to say yeah,

493
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>me too, I'm sorry too, I love you too. She

494
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:52.599
<v Speaker 2>makes them like, oh, let's let's have a little make him,

495
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.480
<v Speaker 2>make him squirm for no fucking reason.

496
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>But also before that, before the end of that, don't

497
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>forget that they on their little vacation. And this is

498
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:05.799
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, which is like the meta thing where

499
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>she's like, so they I guess they were on a

500
00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:11.839
<v Speaker 1>snowmobile or whatever. And she's like, oh, you're really going

501
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:13.559
<v Speaker 1>to act like you're really going to act like we're

502
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>not beefing right now, and he and he's like, uh,

503
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, no, we're going to say this for

504
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the cameras, because you act differently. When we're on camera,

505
00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:25.799
<v Speaker 1>you pretend like nothing's wrong, but when we're off camera,

506
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you're horrible and disrespectful and like and mean to me

507
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And he's like, you can tell that he

508
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.319
<v Speaker 1>genuinely has no idea what she's talking about, right, yeah, yeah, Like,

509
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 1>are we to believe that he's totally fake? See, because

510
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because these are the people online that

511
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 1>are like, no, he's acting one way on camera and

512
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:49.319
<v Speaker 1>he's doing he's being disrespectful off camera. But how do

513
00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 1>we know. We've never seen it. I don't think he's

514
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:53.079
<v Speaker 1>beat now. I will give her this.

515
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 2>When they sort of replayed the fight from last week

516
00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:59.480
<v Speaker 2>about how like he was being annoying, she was all there.

517
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:02.000
<v Speaker 2>They'd had a fight beforehand, and the fight was interesting.

518
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>We got every last as you said, like every last

519
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:06.039
<v Speaker 2>detail she had to work.

520
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't doing shit.

521
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>We got to pick up these cowboy hats for the

522
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.279
<v Speaker 2>stupid party and he wouldn't do it.

523
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>So she's feeling stressed. They get in a fight.

524
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I get that. They go to the thing and she's

525
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.440
<v Speaker 2>let it go. She's like, I'm filming you, I'm cheering

526
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 2>you on, I love you. Then I hear you say, like,

527
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>must be nice for someone to say you're perfect?

528
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:23.599
<v Speaker 1>He was kind of.

529
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<v Speaker 2>When I watched it again the second time, I kind

530
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 2>of understood her more, you know what I mean? I

531
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:32.319
<v Speaker 2>think I think she overreacted, but I do understand why

532
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:35.039
<v Speaker 2>she felt that way. So I actually literally one hundred

533
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>percent get where she's coming from with him. I just

534
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:38.400
<v Speaker 2>don't like the way she goes about it.

535
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but just I'm going to push back for a second.

536
00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Not that you need me to push back. I get it.

537
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I get that you are wishing us, but almost, but

538
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>what about the fact that, like she if she's the

539
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 1>one who's mad at him, if she's annoyed because he

540
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't doing enough for picking up the cowboy hats or

541
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:57.319
<v Speaker 1>understanding her stress about all the things they needed to

542
00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.480
<v Speaker 1>get done, then she was kind of mad and then

543
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.079
<v Speaker 1>she was being fake, right, you know what I mean?

544
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Because if she's annoyed him and being probably being a

545
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>beach to him, but then she's like, why are you

546
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>not being fake in front of the cameras, then she's

547
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>so mad that he embarrassed her, but like maybe he's

548
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the one not being fake, right, I don't know. Very

549
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 1>good point, I don't know. But so she gets so

550
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>mad at him at the snowmobile thing and she's super

551
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>punishing and she won't speak to him. And this is

552
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:31.079
<v Speaker 1>where he's like, I'm sure we were both kind of

553
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 1>cheering for him, because he's like, oh my god, like,

554
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I did wrong. I'm not going

555
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 1>to apologize. And she's like, oh, oh really, you're not

556
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>going to apologize and he's like, no, I don't know

557
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>what I did wrong, Like you want me to apologize,

558
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, no, I don't. I don't want you

559
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.519
<v Speaker 1>to apologize. If you don't think you did anything wrong,

560
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 1>then you shouldn't. It's one of those things where you

561
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>cannot win.

562
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 2>You cannot win. And then she's still He's still lost

563
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>because he still ended up doing it anyway, because she's

564
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 2>manipulating that little child in him, and I'm sure she

565
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.880
<v Speaker 2>has a little child in her too, So who's none saying?

566
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that he's so damaged that he feels like

567
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>he can't be without, like he's going to die without

568
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.799
<v Speaker 1>if she breaks up with him, which.

569
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Can I say something to do was good for her either, Well, yeah,

570
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.319
<v Speaker 2>but that's no way about it to go about it.

571
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>And also, like if she works for a company as

572
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 2>a social worker, like usually that means you work for

573
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 2>like the government, you know, social working is like a job,

574
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 2>like a state job or schedule exactly. Yeah, so if

575
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I watched that, I wouldn't want her. I'd fire her

576
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>based on the way she's acting in this. Honestly, I'm sorry,

577
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Like I wouldn't want that person representing my company.

578
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>No, And I agree that, like.

579
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not like this is a you know, you know,

580
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe you have to be kind of tough lovey with

581
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>some people in that job. I get that, but like

582
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>you can't, like this is crazy, that's crazy.

583
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe did you think about this? Maybe there's something to

584
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the idea that she suddenly realizes how she's going to

585
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>come across and she's like, oh shit, I could lose

586
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>my job. So now I got to be like a

587
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>little bit more vulnerable, and I got to be like,

588
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry too. I mean, maybe maybe she acts completely

589
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 1>different when the cameras aren't around. Two. I don't know,

590
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 1>But what's your prediction for these two?

591
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I think they're going to go to the altar

592
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>and that she's going to say no mhm, because she

593
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>is a sadist.

594
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I hope it's I hope I'm wrong.

595
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I hope they I hope they don't get married, but

596
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 2>I hope it's him that says now, I would love

597
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.079
<v Speaker 2>to see that. And people can say I'm wrong all day,

598
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>but that's how I see it. Maybe I am wrong.

599
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know them personally, but from what I've seen, like,

600
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that would be a really good step for him.

601
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>He seems okay on the Instagram thing. He's alive. Yeah,

602
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>as of today, he's thirty, you know how. Yeah, so

603
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 2>you know how a lot of times they talk behind

604
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the scenes or we hear about it later and they

605
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 2>say like, I'm not going to say yes.

606
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I bet you. She says like, I'm not going to

607
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:04.119
<v Speaker 1>say yes to you. So I have a feeling that

608
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's he says, okay, well, I'll let you be

609
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the one to like say no. Maybe, you know.

610
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Like see, yeah, I don't think they're getting married though, Yeah,

611
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>but I could be wrong. Maybe they're just putting on

612
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a I don't know, but if they do, I don't

613
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>think it's going to last. It'll be interesting to see

614
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 2>at the reunion. Let's do our one that I do

615
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>think is going to get married, our last one, which

616
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>is our friends Jordan and Sparkle Meghan.

617
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, first off, I don't know.

618
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I can totally see where both of them are coming

619
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>from on this one.

620
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 1>It's very strange. He's an introvert that needs to recharge.

621
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 2>She wants their house to be the party house, not

622
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:46.599
<v Speaker 2>necessarily drinking or whatever, but just she wants a lot

623
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 2>of people around. Okay, that sometimes can be incompatible. And

624
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's either of their faults. But I

625
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's realizing what a fucking like gold mine.

626
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>And I don't just mean money wise. I don't think

627
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>he's realizing how me she is. I think he's taking

628
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 2>her up for crinks. What's your take?

629
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So my take is that these two are completely incompatible.

630
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And I also think that it's she's acting ridiculous about

631
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 1>like she's calling. She's saying she's basically going to be

632
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the kid's mom, and it's like, check yourself, Like that's

633
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 1>crazy talk. He has a mom, He has a mom

634
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.279
<v Speaker 1>who's with him most of the time. And they're really

635
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:35.279
<v Speaker 1>good friends. And they're like they're very they're very good couple.

636
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Ex couple. Yeah, so yeah, but they're getting married. If

637
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 1>you under if the premise is.

638
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Real that they're going to get married and move in

639
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 2>together and he's going to live with them half the time.

640
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>She is a stepmom. Well, she's not interested in actually

641
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>being a parent though. She's like, I want to go

642
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>skiing and go golfing every day, and he's like, dude,

643
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 1>you have a job. He has a job, and also

644
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>he has a so he's like, I can't go golfing

645
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 1>at ten am and go to fancy dinners with you

646
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>all the time, like I have a five year old.

647
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was completely on his side with like, yeah,

648
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she has any idea of what life

649
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 1>would be like with a five year old. And she's

650
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 1>especially laborizing nabeties.

651
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she's like that's all she talks about is

652
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 2>his diabetes, which is almost I thought it was kind

653
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>of weird that she revealed that in conversations like yeah,

654
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>this like alarm goes off and I don't know that

655
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>feels like that's the kid's business.

656
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't mind that, but what I thought was

657
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>really weird was that it's like one night of like

658
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 1>dealing with he slept over there. I think one night

659
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 1>so far she met him one time. He slept over

660
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 1>one night and she was like, yeah, I mean I

661
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 1>couldn't like sleep, like the alarm went off. It's like, okay, girl,

662
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>well that's every night, I mean your life. Yeah, and

663
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that's his priority. And she's like, I want to be courted.

664
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 1>I want you to, like go see a car you're

665
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>on that. I'm with her.

666
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I think you could do both. He can be a

667
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>dad and also like try a little bit. I think

668
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>he's a little dicky. I think he's a little shut down,

669
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think he's appreciating. I can see both

670
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.799
<v Speaker 2>sides on this one. I saw somebody on Reddit that

671
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.200
<v Speaker 2>posted a picture of him next to Andy from the office,

672
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 2>and now I can't help see it. Oh my god,

673
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:26.599
<v Speaker 2>totally yeah, like Ed Handy, Yes, Ed helms at home,

674
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>well the chief he is. I think he's cute. I

675
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.400
<v Speaker 2>think she's gorgeous. Like I think that they are gonna

676
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>say yes. I think that they're gonna make it. I

677
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they'll make it forever, but I see

678
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 2>something here I mean it was kind of funny. That

679
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.359
<v Speaker 2>scene was funny where she's like, did I not tell

680
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>you my numerology?

681
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Shit?

682
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like what he takes off his like these weird

683
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 2>hats they had made Barry Kyle Richards Colorado. Remember when

684
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>they had those hats, Like because they went to Kimo Sabby,

685
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>which is exactly hat that. Yeah, it's like so dumb.

686
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>So they do all that and she's like, yeah, you know,

687
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 2>I went looked at a house today, but it just

688
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>fell off. Fell off. Really good school district for you know,

689
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>but like just didn't feel right. Most of the numerology.

690
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.400
<v Speaker 2>We're looking for a six. He's like wait what wait

691
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>what She's like, yeah, did I not tell you my thing?

692
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>You add up your house numbers and like if you

693
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>have a seven, if you have an eight, it's very

694
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>fan it's money. She's I have had eights, but I

695
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>need a six for family gatherings.

696
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 1>And his face like it's like the moment.

697
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 2>You realize someone's crazy and you know that you have

698
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>to back out of the room. You can't, you can't

699
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 2>turn your back. No, I actually say that, but I

700
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:34.719
<v Speaker 2>don't think she's crazy. I think that's just like one

701
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>of her weird things like me with Meyers Briggs. Okay,

702
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I everyone I've ever met take that, so like what

703
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 2>do I know?

704
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, I get it. And also, and I do not

705
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>mean I'm more sensitive to this because I do have kids,

706
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and I please don't hear that as like, well, I'm

707
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a mom and you're a baron whore, so you don't understand.

708
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 1>But am you? I have a you might not have

709
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>clocked this. So I'm just gonna say something that I

710
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>noticed that I think somebody that doesn't have kids might

711
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 1>not notice. But it was very, very weird for her

712
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 1>to say, yeah, it's a really good school district. He's

713
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>not going to move with his kid. Oh that she

714
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>does didn't have back, right, she doesn't have he doesn't

715
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>have full time custody. So now like according to where

716
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Megan wants to live because she's going to buy a house,

717
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, yeah, well look at me. I'm like

718
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 1>a mom. I'm thinking about school. It's so right, I'm

719
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 1>the kid's mom. I'm like, are you fucking out of

720
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 1>your mind? Bitch? Like you're not moving different.

721
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 2>School is fifty to fifty. You're not like, oh I

722
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>hate this school. When I'm with my dad. Oh my god,

723
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>that's such a good point. I'm so unrealistic of her.

724
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.159
<v Speaker 2>And I am sure that he thought that and just

725
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to be like, we're not moving him out

726
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 2>of his school district, like he's What happens when people,

727
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, even get divorced is whoever has like the

728
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>primary custody, like is where the school district is. Like

729
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even think of that. I was like, oh,

730
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>that's so nice. I was like, that didn't even occur

731
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>to me. I was like, that's not nice. That's fucking

732
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 2>crazy of her.

733
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.599
<v Speaker 1>And she's just has she doesn't have great boundaries with

734
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 1>talking about like being a mom. It's very fantasy driven.

735
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 1>And I worry about the fact that she's like, yeah,

736
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 1>well I'm bored. I want to have conversations and and

737
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand I would be frustrated too if he doesn't

738
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>really talk much and he's like, but I don't want

739
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 1>to tell you about my day. It's like, okay, well

740
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 1>you kind of got to do that. And I was

741
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>on her side when she's like, okay, but in the pods,

742
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:40.079
<v Speaker 1>you were like fun and funny and like different, this

743
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 1>is not an odd Yeah, he was a dick. He

744
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 1>was being a dick. I agree. I could totally see

745
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>where she and I think she's not doesn't. Yeah, that

746
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>is crazy. Her fan. The whole thing is crazy.

747
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean the whole thing that they meet and thing

748
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>and have to get married a month later, Like it's

749
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>all ridiculous. So you know they're going to get people

750
00:36:58.079 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that are like, yeah, I'm really down for this experiment.

751
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 2>So she thinks she's going all in in all the

752
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 2>right ways. But I know she's young and nuts. You know,

753
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.159
<v Speaker 2>they're all crazy to be on the show.

754
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I like them both, I really

755
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>do think. But she's acting like she's retired. She's like,

756
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I already worked hard. I did all that I worked

757
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 1>so I could relate. I think she can. Then why

758
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>did she pick him? Why didn't she pick Mike?

759
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I think they're soulmates now. I think if one of

760
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>them is going to say no to the other, it's

761
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 2>going to be him. So they're going to make it

762
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>to the altar, And if it's going to be a no,

763
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he'll say no. I don't think she will.

764
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they're I think they're doing a little mislead

765
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're showing us a moment of tension, and I

766
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to say yes. I got nobody say yes.

767
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 2>All we have left is Kabi and Edmund and Megan

768
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and Jordan. Right wait is there anybody else?

769
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yeah, oh Ali Ali and right. So this is

770
00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>what we're left with. Oh God, okay, we do need

771
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 1>to make our predictions because the next episode is the

772
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>final is the weddings?

773
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, so my god, hold on the weirdest sound. Oh

774
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 2>it's a motorcycle. I understand that sound. I've heard that before.

775
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 2>What is that ghost? So yeah, it's a car? Okay,

776
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 2>got it?

777
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Yes? Or no?

778
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Anton Alli No, No, She'll say no, okay Edmund, and

779
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping Edmund says no, but I think it's gonna

780
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 2>be KB that says no. I don't think they're gonna

781
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:34.079
<v Speaker 2>make it, and then I think Megan and Jordan will

782
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 2>make it.

783
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, same, I think we saw it.

784
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, no spoilers, you guys. Thank you

785
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 2>a tune tomorrow we have Golden Batch.

786
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're gonna we have to go watch it now

787
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 1>or you might watch it in the morning, but I

788
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta watch it all right, everybody? Bye? We love you

789
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 1>more than you love us, Bye, Bye,