Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. This is part two of our Love
Speaker 1: Is Blind coverage of season nine, episodes ten and eleven.
Speaker 2: And we're right up on it. I mean, we're up
Speaker 2: on all this shit now. If you didn't listen to
Speaker 2: part one, we got a little heated. We got into
Speaker 2: a huge fight. Yeah, Stephanie loves Ali. I love Anton.
Speaker 2: I have a black eye, which is not fair that
Speaker 2: I feel bad about that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you apologize for that? No.
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, we both
Speaker 2: agree that neither of them are great. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't necessarily see it in Ali. But
Speaker 2: I got myself worked up because I'm like, this girl
Speaker 2: is not here for this. I just don't like the
Speaker 2: like because you know what it is, you said, you
Speaker 2: called it. We sort of recognize ourselves. So you're harder
Speaker 2: on Anton because you see yourself there. I'm harder on
Speaker 2: Ali because I see myself there. I see myself trying
Speaker 2: to just like stay in as crazy chaotic nonsense, you know.
Speaker 1: And also I have an only chance hold on though
Speaker 1: minute you're saying I see myself more as Anton, because
Speaker 1: then you would think that I would empathize, empathize. No,
Speaker 1: I would. I think it's different. I think it's more.
Speaker 1: You think I'm judging him more harshly because I see
Speaker 1: it in myself.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're seeing the things that I'm probably somewhat weirdly
Speaker 2: like attracted to. Right, And then I see the things
Speaker 2: I've done with Ali, going like, but hold on, but
Speaker 2: how many beers? But you said four, but there's seven.
Speaker 2: I've done that, right, And I totally do that, And
Speaker 2: so I'm Matt. I'm more annoyed with that because I
Speaker 2: see myself in it. Also, I don't think she's I
Speaker 2: think she's not. I just I don't trust her. I
Speaker 2: don't know why. I know she's not the worst of them.
Speaker 2: She's a nice you know, there's a lot of nurses.
Speaker 2: Remember how many nurses are on The Bachelor. She's a
Speaker 2: real job that she wants to quit and become an
Speaker 2: influencer full time.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: So that is so we do the same, So do
Speaker 2: they all? I know that is true, and so do
Speaker 2: we we? Who am I kidding?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? If we were famous from Rose Pricks,
Speaker 1: if some more people could leave us some like five
Speaker 1: star reviews and we both quit law school, get into
Speaker 1: our Patreon, get on our Patreon and well, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: we're not going to stop doing this then then we're
Speaker 1: just gonna feel validated. We're we're gonna have we'll get
Speaker 1: to stop saying like do you guys love us? But
Speaker 1: do you? Because it feels like.
Speaker 2: We love the audience, we love you, we love you,
Speaker 2: and you don't. We won't wear our skin, I'll wear
Speaker 2: your skin.
Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like you guys are one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like if you were one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: you'd all be at the twenty five dollars level. It
Speaker 1: just feels like we're more invested down your chilupas is
Speaker 1: what we're saying. Now, tell us about I think it
Speaker 1: might be a good time to Yeah, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you guys. Oh oh, I I accidentally got out of
Speaker 1: that hold on. Okay, never mind, let's what's on next?
Speaker 2: Okay, so wait, we're done with them, but I do
Speaker 2: want to say, like, I know I was hard on her.
Speaker 1: I was kind of hard on her.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, I guess I see some of myself
Speaker 2: and again yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. I kind of move on. Oh but
Speaker 1: let's do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's do Joe. They're both great, They're equally great.
Speaker 2: Let's do Joe and Madison. That was that was pretty heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: It does not take like a relationship expert to see
Speaker 2: when they're meeting, like when he's meeting her family, how far.
Speaker 2: I've never seen two people sit so far apart, sitting
Speaker 2: next to each other.
Speaker 1: It was, it was.
Speaker 2: It was rough that she didn't see it, but I
Speaker 2: could totally see why she didn't see it, and I
Speaker 2: have to say I have full empathy for you. Actually,
Speaker 2: Steph texted me that she's Madison is Delulu, right, and
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about Aunnie.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think you got it wrong.
Speaker 2: Because I didn't see her as she yeah, she's Delulu
Speaker 2: and that she thought this guy loved it, but he
Speaker 2: was probably saying he loved her.
Speaker 1: He's sleeping with her, you know, like I think for better, family,
Speaker 1: for better, for worse, and it is for worse. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I am not team Joe. But
Speaker 1: he told her straight off the bat, like I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not attracted to your body, which that is harsh
Speaker 1: and I am that is not okay, But he said
Speaker 1: that to her and then he went ahead and slept
Speaker 1: with her anyway, and then.
Speaker 2: Because he's because he's distant and emotionally unavailable, and he
Speaker 2: told us he ran, he got engaged and then like
Speaker 2: bowed out after they sent out the invitations. I mean,
Speaker 2: this guy, he's a hot, he's a he's a fucking
Speaker 2: player for sure.
Speaker 1: He went on this.
Speaker 2: He also wrong reasons, and I really felt so I
Speaker 2: felt when she cried. I felt like I felt every
Speaker 2: inch of that, like he he oh that kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Man sucks And I defended him before. But maybe we
Speaker 2: should tell you, guys. I mean, you already watched it,
Speaker 2: so we don't need to tell you every single thing
Speaker 2: that happened. But we could see his distance from far away.
Speaker 2: But then it did not help when her mom was like,
Speaker 2: so when she goes blind in like a year, you're
Speaker 2: gonna like take care of that, right, And he's like,
Speaker 2: even though he knew that and said yes.
Speaker 1: After the pods, it was cold as ice. This is
Speaker 1: a case of what this is. He is a bad
Speaker 1: case of what the last couple had, which is I
Speaker 1: want to stay on this show. I am going to
Speaker 1: be an influencer if it fucking kills me. If I
Speaker 1: have to be a what's this? Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: had a great SNL reference. Male prostitute. What's his name?
Speaker 1: Fred Fred Garvey, male prostitute. He's just like I will,
Speaker 1: I will fuck her. I will. I will get drunk
Speaker 1: to do it, and I will sometimes overshoot the mark
Speaker 1: and then have to go have a nap. But I
Speaker 1: will fake it till I make it, and then I
Speaker 1: will say no at the altar. And it was just
Speaker 1: like killing him. He did it, let me tell you.
Speaker 1: He was just like I don't think he ever thought
Speaker 1: I'm going to marry anybody. He thought I'm going to
Speaker 1: be on the show. I think he's too good looking
Speaker 1: for anybody who would even be on the show.
Speaker 2: Here's some stuff about her from something called She Knows.
Speaker 2: This is some a little bit of about both of them,
Speaker 2: Madison Maidenberg. That was her last name, Maidenberg. How ironic,
Speaker 2: that's maiden interesting. Maidenberg and Joe Ferucci are not holding
Speaker 2: back their thoughts about each other after their appearance on
Speaker 2: Love Is Blind season nine. Joe was a tween nine
Speaker 2: year old sales professional and Madison twenty eight year old
Speaker 2: porn star.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: I would have it said that she has a ux designer.
Speaker 2: Had a light hearted, giggle filled connection in the pods.
Speaker 2: But things got off to a rocky start. But we
Speaker 2: already know all that we want to get to now,
Speaker 2: so they broke up in today's episode, it says on
Speaker 2: the show, after leaving his wedding suit fitting in a
Speaker 2: state of panic, Joe tells Madison that she's not his person,
Speaker 2: which he said over and over. He was so fucking
Speaker 2: cold he did. He could have said that all the
Speaker 2: things like it's it's me, I'm fucked up. No, he
Speaker 2: was like, no, you're not the person. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be miserable.
Speaker 1: Bye. Like he was the fucking worst.
Speaker 2: She even after she pleads with him, which I don't
Speaker 2: think she even really hardly did that. She was totally
Speaker 2: normal for a better explasion. You don't think so, No,
Speaker 2: that's so funny.
Speaker 1: I think she cried and sad. I think she was amazing.
Speaker 2: Actually she like cried for like fifteen minutes, and then
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well bye. I mean, who wouldn't
Speaker 2: cry if you really thought that that was going to
Speaker 2: be your guy. He's just a little he's a little
Speaker 2: distant loof that's our hot Joe it's what he's like,
Speaker 2: he's sleeping with her.
Speaker 1: What is she supposed to just be like? Okay, cool, cool?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I almost don't know what to
Speaker 1: say to that because I saw it so differently and
Speaker 1: obviously you're totally wrong. No, I'm just kidding. It's that
Speaker 1: it is so funny. It's funny about this show that
Speaker 1: you can really look at something and two people see
Speaker 1: it very differently. And I see this and reddit because
Speaker 1: a lot of this show is very polarizing with the couples,
Speaker 1: a lot like and we're going to see it with
Speaker 1: KB and Edmund. Like people get I'm so team Edmund.
Speaker 1: But that's a whole different thing. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: go back and forth. But I also agree with you.
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people that are a
Speaker 1: hardcore team maybe which at We're going to get to that,
Speaker 1: but let's finish out with these guys. Let me read you.
Speaker 1: I have hard to read you here, do do do? So? Okay,
Speaker 1: so they have whatever.
Speaker 2: So Madison claimed that she developed an eating disorder after
Speaker 2: comments Joe made about her looks, which you said last week.
Speaker 1: I read that too. Joe didn't mention to me that
Speaker 1: he usually dates you know, more petite women.
Speaker 2: That's how he said it, you know, Okay, so we
Speaker 2: talked about that when he went on the That was
Speaker 2: last week on Nick's Yall's show.
Speaker 1: Right. She says she's healthy now, but added that watching.
Speaker 2: The show, which was filmed in the spring of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, has been disheartening. So this is after the fact,
Speaker 2: after today's thing episodes. I'm trying to get to where
Speaker 2: they said that. Joe, meanwhile, did we talk about this
Speaker 2: responded to Madison's comments about her eating disorder in US Weekly. Obviously,
Speaker 2: he says, kind of a horrible feeling on my end
Speaker 2: if that's something that affected her long time, long term
Speaker 2: for a little while or or a little while after.
Speaker 2: It was a surprising comment. Madison's always been very confident
Speaker 2: in her body image, but you never know how somebody's
Speaker 2: feeling inside, especially if you tell them they're fat. I
Speaker 2: don't mean it to affect her that way. It's not
Speaker 2: a good thing to hear. So somehow he makes it
Speaker 2: about him right completely, and then he admitted that the
Speaker 2: couple did have a great sex life, but added it's
Speaker 2: not the foundation for a marriage. Oh this fucking piece
Speaker 2: of shit, he said, it was hard, he said. You
Speaker 2: know what he means, it was hard. There's no common ground. Ever,
Speaker 2: I'm to blame for my part in that he did say.
Speaker 2: I can say that wholeheartedly, and I think somebody else
Speaker 2: would be a great match for her. Well, he should
Speaker 2: have said that to her, but he didn't even say
Speaker 2: one nice thing to her.
Speaker 1: Mm mmm, no he didn't. I'm telling you. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: He was not there for the right reasons. But he
Speaker 1: couldn't in my opinion, and there was in past episodes.
Speaker 1: You were like, I think he's so sweet or whatever.
Speaker 1: You were kind of siding, Yeah, I know, And I
Speaker 1: feel like he could not have been more obviously not
Speaker 1: into her. So now we don't know. Again, Yes, he's
Speaker 1: sleeping with her, I don't know how often, but he's
Speaker 1: having sex with her, but he's not being nice to her.
Speaker 1: And then she was acting so completely shocked that this
Speaker 1: would be what's happening. I just felt like she was
Speaker 1: ignoring every sign. Oh, I'm so I'm so unteened, Madison.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you. He thinks he's hilarious.
Speaker 2: He's grown a very comedy mustache, like a very hipster
Speaker 2: comedy mustache, and he's making like content videos now.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying anybody can't do whatever they fucking want.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love a co but like he's I
Speaker 2: think he thinks was that something about him that he
Speaker 2: was supposed to be funny? No, because I know they
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't remember him being funny, but
Speaker 2: I think he thinks he's funny.
Speaker 1: No, he's so brush. But we saw this coming. But
Speaker 1: also we also talked about the fact that she is
Speaker 1: very very attention seeking, very dramatic. She had that crazy
Speaker 1: overreaction to him being drunk where she was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you don't know where you are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he was he only did that once. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he should have broken up with her then, Like and.
Speaker 1: Also, don't forget the other arguments they had where she
Speaker 1: was so over the top and like crying and like,
Speaker 1: but do you love me? I mean she's had these
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot about this super nutty and I
Speaker 1: think that I think that it was interesting because so
Speaker 1: they all the men go to try on suits, yea,
Speaker 1: and he tries on the suit and I think, like,
Speaker 1: in defense of what you're saying, his brain was like,
Speaker 1: I look pretty freaking good in a suit. I can
Speaker 1: kind of see myself on TV in this suit. But
Speaker 1: then he basically had a panic attack of like, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be with Madison.
Speaker 2: I guarantee he's going to be the next Bachelor. I
Speaker 2: almost could like, I can see it coming. You'd be
Speaker 2: exactly if that's what they're going that way, they should
Speaker 2: just go that way. Do we have the runner Frankie
Speaker 2: Frankie Taylor Ball or whatever? We have to I think
Speaker 2: it's our job, Taylor me now, all right, So they
Speaker 2: split up, but I just think she handled it. I
Speaker 2: think she cried and was sad and then was like
Speaker 2: I thought it was. I thought it was sad, and
Speaker 2: I love her and I.
Speaker 1: Felt for her. We should listen. We should recount though,
Speaker 1: the fact that so the cameras catch her crying and
Speaker 1: packing a suitcase, and we find out what was I
Speaker 1: going to say, well, no, go ahead, sorry, Well so
Speaker 1: he did it. He had already broken up with her,
Speaker 1: he left, so then they have to reach I have
Speaker 1: to have this is so reality TV. I know that
Speaker 1: he broke up with her. Obviously he said something he
Speaker 1: didn't just like slip out the back jack, make a
Speaker 1: new plan, stand right, He broke up with her, So
Speaker 1: she's crying and she's like, yeah, he left, like he's gone,
Speaker 1: you know. Then he comes back in and they have
Speaker 1: to have this super awkward conversation where he has to
Speaker 1: rebreak up with her for the camera. That's very bachelory.
Speaker 1: It's very bachelory. So that therefore I felt like her
Speaker 1: tears were very put on because she already in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was like, she already knew this, and I understand
Speaker 1: she's having to redo it for the cameras, but I
Speaker 1: think she built this life with this guy that was
Speaker 1: never that guy. I don't like, oh, I just oh
Speaker 1: my heart.
Speaker 2: By the way, when we talked about Annie and Nick,
Speaker 2: we forgot to talk about how when he was breaking
Speaker 2: up with her and she went totally crazy and like
Speaker 2: laughed in the middle of crying. She then started texting,
Speaker 2: and he's like, Okay, I can't have this conversation if
Speaker 2: you're on your phone.
Speaker 1: I screenshot it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you did too, or I just like paused
Speaker 2: it to see and she was texting someone it seemed
Speaker 2: like from Love is Blind. She's like yeah, She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: things are not good. Doesn't look like the wedding, but
Speaker 2: I think that was the other person because then she
Speaker 2: wrote yeah because Nick that you just see that she's
Speaker 2: still typing something about Nick.
Speaker 1: So she and she won't stop.
Speaker 2: She's like text text sex sex text. She's like, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to end it, and.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm trying to order more chlopahs. You said
Speaker 1: you love chelopahs. God, I'm going to make you love that.
Speaker 2: She was texting someone from the show about how he
Speaker 2: was breaking up with her mid breakup, like he'd only
Speaker 2: been breaking up with her for like thirty seconds, right,
Speaker 2: and she's like immediately on her phone like that's how
Speaker 2: meta this show is. She's so, I can't believe we
Speaker 2: forgot that part that was in part one, by the way,
Speaker 2: but please, well what about after that when he's like, so,
Speaker 2: I'm breaking up with you and she's like, no, no.
Speaker 1: You're not. You're not absolutely not, You're not doing this,
Speaker 1: and he was like okay, but I am like, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely breaking up with you, and she's like, no, I
Speaker 1: won't have it. I just know. Uhh.
Speaker 2: I mean that's why I think by comparison, Madison did
Speaker 2: a much better job at least if.
Speaker 1: We had to look at it like that how about?
Speaker 1: And then she goes and then she goes, I can't
Speaker 1: believe you're just so cold and like you're not even
Speaker 1: like gonna hug me, And he goes, I can do that,
Speaker 1: I can hug you, and she goes, you mean Joe
Speaker 1: for Joe, Yeah, Joe and Madison, And she goes, no,
Speaker 1: just forget it. I don't even need a hug.
Speaker 2: I mean, but he was being like a sociopath like
Speaker 2: cold as I mean, he's he's pretty awful. She deserves
Speaker 2: better and she will have better and you will be fine.
Speaker 1: He's gonna will be fine. She's gonna need to get
Speaker 1: her emotions under control. She's very dysregulated.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get like mega chlamydia. He's gonna get the
Speaker 2: one that can't be treated. He's gonna have a lot
Speaker 2: of sex, and he's gonna get the one that like
Speaker 2: is antibotic antibiotic resistant.
Speaker 1: You think, as you're holding a voodoo doll in your
Speaker 1: hand right now and.
Speaker 2: I'm holding Madison, like, I'm like, you don't understand we
Speaker 2: are I like her, I really did, and I for her.
Speaker 1: Do you have like selective memory of the that was crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's nuts too, moments that one time, but I still, like,
Speaker 2: I'm still I have I have strong opinions about these
Speaker 2: people that I've never met.
Speaker 1: Okay, but there were a couple of times she wasn't
Speaker 1: just the one time when he was drunk. There's been
Speaker 1: other instances of her being crazy over the top, like
Speaker 1: crying and anyway, let's move on. Yeah, let's move on.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about cave be An Edmund because they are
Speaker 2: our next most interesting couple. Yes, I if I'm putting
Speaker 2: a voodoo curse on someone, I would have it that
Speaker 2: KBSD yell at them for is she like a dominatrix
Speaker 2: or something?
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Oh my god, people, I don't understand
Speaker 1: how people can sew hardcore be on her side. But
Speaker 1: people are saying, okay, so so people are saying the
Speaker 1: people that are pro her are saying that they feel
Speaker 1: that he must be a total like doctor Jackyll mister Hyde.
Speaker 2: Because I could see, I could totally see that. I
Speaker 2: absolutely can see what she's saying. She just doesn't have
Speaker 2: to say it so long. I completely and I believe
Speaker 2: her actually, and I could see why she'd be annoyed.
Speaker 1: But like, my god, okay, so we shut out Let's
Speaker 1: let's go back though. Let's let's let's start from the
Speaker 1: beginning with them in these episodes. So we start out
Speaker 1: they are this couple is in one long fight for
Speaker 1: this entire show, from the time they're out of the
Speaker 1: pods to the end of the show. I guarantee you
Speaker 1: they'll be fighting at the altar. They'll be bigger. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Sure.
Speaker 2: And I'm but I'm really sad for him. Listen, I
Speaker 2: do believe he's doing things for the camera and all
Speaker 2: that bullshit. I believe her, but like, he's also been
Speaker 2: deeply abused, and I think she's totally using that to
Speaker 2: manipulate him. She like gets off on yelling at him,
Speaker 2: and then we said this last week. She yells at
Speaker 2: him so she can fix him. She's like a cult eater.
Speaker 2: She breaks him down because she knows he's easy to
Speaker 2: break down. She tells she fills him with like so
Speaker 2: much doubt and like shame and then builds him back up.
Speaker 1: She's a he found somebody somehow, he subconsciously found somebody
Speaker 1: to repeat like the foster mother thing. Yes, he found
Speaker 1: somebody to emotionally abuse him and makes me so sad.
Speaker 1: And he's trying to replay it. He's trying to like
Speaker 1: be like win her love and approval, which is not
Speaker 1: very manly. You know. It's not okay, like regardless of
Speaker 1: whether it's but I can say that for them because
Speaker 1: it's it's she's trying to do that, like you're not
Speaker 1: being a man, you know, So it's not very manly
Speaker 1: to her. She's replaying something. Yeah, so she wants him
Speaker 1: to like be a man, but she chose somebody who's
Speaker 1: trapped as a little boy, right, and then she's going
Speaker 1: to punish that little boy. And he chose somebody who's
Speaker 1: going to be super punishing and he's going to never
Speaker 1: be able to figure out how to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: So what he does is he just checks on out.
Speaker 1: He mentally goes away. He disassociates, I think, and then
Speaker 1: when he does that, she gets even madder and she's
Speaker 1: going to like make him understandlogized. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 2: By the way, he just posted eleven hours ago on
Speaker 2: Insta and it's posted.
Speaker 1: He's so cute. It's a little video. I love him
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: He wrote, it's my thirtieth birthday today, so that's today
Speaker 2: as we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: It's his thirtieth birthday right now, So happy birthday.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, sweet pie, and it says, and what better
Speaker 2: way to celebrate than with a home tour Freestyle at
Speaker 2: twenty nine at twenty six ninety, I'm just going to
Speaker 2: give him a shout South Newport Street in Denver because
Speaker 2: he's a realator. I guess right, the guest is showing
Speaker 2: is he a realator? Is he just showing his own house?
Speaker 2: He wouldn't give his own address. No, no, no, he's
Speaker 2: trying to sell this house. So it has a whole
Speaker 2: thing like highlights, classic myths. Oh my god, it's ninety
Speaker 2: five hundred square feet. Oh no, the whole lot is
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's pretty big. Yeah, listing agent, it's him,
Speaker 2: and he's with Compass, which is a big company. I'm
Speaker 2: so proud of him. He's a realator. Okay you probably
Speaker 2: probably most people knew that. But he's doing a really
Speaker 2: cute video where he's dancing around and showing the house,
Speaker 2: and I just I just god, I've never rooted for
Speaker 2: someone so hard on this show. I love him so
Speaker 2: much and I hope he finds love, and I want
Speaker 2: to put him with Madison kind of maybe they could work,
Speaker 2: she'd be really kind to him.
Speaker 1: You don't think I think he has some healing to do. No,
Speaker 1: I know heal people, heal people and hurt people. Hurt people,
Speaker 1: she said. We talked about that and also in part one.
Speaker 1: But okay, so they so they're when we get to
Speaker 1: them in episode ten, they're finishing on a fight from
Speaker 1: before where again right where they're still having the fight
Speaker 1: from the Western night and she she starts out and
Speaker 1: I knew this would trigger you. It triggered me. That's
Speaker 1: why I knew it would trigger you, because we do
Speaker 1: think the same. We have the same emotional reactions, and
Speaker 1: then we analyze I think a little differently. But it
Speaker 1: was so awful because she's like, you are going to
Speaker 1: let me fucking talk. You're gonna shut up and you're
Speaker 1: gonna let me talk. And he's like, okay, I'll let
Speaker 1: you talk. She's like, oh my god, you won't let
Speaker 1: me talk. I'm going to tell you my side of
Speaker 1: this situation and uninterrupted, and he's like okay, and she's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, there you go again. You can't even
Speaker 1: let me talk. And he's like he doesn't know what
Speaker 1: to do. He's frozen in fear. He's paralyzed with fear.
Speaker 1: And this is where I started to see him like
Speaker 1: leaving his body, like going somewhere else. And then I
Speaker 1: wish that there had been the editors had had a
Speaker 1: little fun with it. And then one of those like
Speaker 1: she's talking, talking, talking, and then they fast forward and
Speaker 1: she's still talking. Then they fast forward to you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because because she was retelling the story,
Speaker 1: but it was like, girl, we saw it, we saw
Speaker 1: it on camera, and it's not changing to be more
Speaker 1: in your favor. The way you're telling the story. It sounds,
Speaker 1: she sounds punishing, She.
Speaker 2: Is out of her fucking mind. And then she manipulates
Speaker 2: like I'm not that girl. I'm not that girl that yells.
Speaker 2: You're making me yell. That is such a classic abuse
Speaker 2: line that if I've ever seen one. She's taking this
Speaker 2: guy who is very emotionally raw, has had all.
Speaker 1: Kinds of shit.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying she hasn't had her own shit,
Speaker 2: like I'm sure that she has, but like that is
Speaker 2: so abusive. You're making me somebody, You're making me yelling. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're making me a like my god, I just want
Speaker 2: to hug him.
Speaker 1: And then so then too, Then he says but before
Speaker 1: so then he says, Okay, he's trying to come up
Speaker 1: with something, and I got to tell you that I
Speaker 1: have been there with my stepfather, so I know this
Speaker 1: kind of abusive tactic where you better come up with
Speaker 1: something that you did wrong and it better be I amievable.
Speaker 1: So because I would be told like, you have to
Speaker 1: apologize to him or he's basically my stepfather would like
Speaker 1: go long periods of time without speaking to me, and
Speaker 1: it would be very uncomfortable and I would try to
Speaker 1: fix it. Then my mom would say, you have to
Speaker 1: apologize to him. He's waiting for an apology. I literally
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done anything. So then i'd have to come
Speaker 1: up with something and say it and sometimes he'd accept it,
Speaker 1: but sometimes he'd be like nope, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's what he So he's like okay, he goes, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: well I'm really sorry that like I walked away. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that. That was disrespectful. And then she
Speaker 1: does that like hmm, I don't know, like I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's enough, Like I don't know if you
Speaker 1: really under She's like, but do you understand what you
Speaker 1: did wrong. She's just being a parent. She's she's him yes.
Speaker 2: Or like a nun teacher, you know, like god, it
Speaker 2: was really hard to watch and right, so just finally
Speaker 2: so he's like, I got it. So then she's all mad.
Speaker 2: He comes in, this is the end in episode eleven.
Speaker 2: He comes in with flowers, and you're like, let me speak.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, like I want a god
Speaker 2: chose you. There's nobody else that I would ever choose.
Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry. And then anytime when she we
Speaker 2: don't and then she makes some pun she makes them wait,
Speaker 2: she sits there stone faced, before she's about to say yeah,
Speaker 2: me too, I'm sorry too, I love you too. She
Speaker 2: makes them like, oh, let's let's have a little make him,
Speaker 2: make him squirm for no fucking reason.
Speaker 1: But also before that, before the end of that, don't
Speaker 1: forget that they on their little vacation. And this is
Speaker 1: the whole thing, which is like the meta thing where
Speaker 1: she's like, so they I guess they were on a
Speaker 1: snowmobile or whatever. And she's like, oh, you're really going
Speaker 1: to act like you're really going to act like we're
Speaker 1: not beefing right now, and he and he's like, uh,
Speaker 1: and she goes, no, we're going to say this for
Speaker 1: the cameras, because you act differently. When we're on camera,
Speaker 1: you pretend like nothing's wrong, but when we're off camera,
Speaker 1: you're horrible and disrespectful and like and mean to me
Speaker 1: or whatever. And he's like, you can tell that he
Speaker 1: genuinely has no idea what she's talking about, right, yeah, yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: are we to believe that he's totally fake? See, because
Speaker 1: I don't know, because these are the people online that
Speaker 1: are like, no, he's acting one way on camera and
Speaker 1: he's doing he's being disrespectful off camera. But how do
Speaker 1: we know. We've never seen it. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: beat now. I will give her this.
Speaker 2: When they sort of replayed the fight from last week
Speaker 2: about how like he was being annoying, she was all there.
Speaker 2: They'd had a fight beforehand, and the fight was interesting.
Speaker 2: We got every last as you said, like every last
Speaker 2: detail she had to work.
Speaker 1: He wasn't doing shit.
Speaker 2: We got to pick up these cowboy hats for the
Speaker 2: stupid party and he wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: So she's feeling stressed. They get in a fight.
Speaker 2: I get that. They go to the thing and she's
Speaker 2: let it go. She's like, I'm filming you, I'm cheering
Speaker 2: you on, I love you. Then I hear you say, like,
Speaker 2: must be nice for someone to say you're perfect?
Speaker 1: He was kind of.
Speaker 2: When I watched it again the second time, I kind
Speaker 2: of understood her more, you know what I mean? I
Speaker 2: think I think she overreacted, but I do understand why
Speaker 2: she felt that way. So I actually literally one hundred
Speaker 2: percent get where she's coming from with him. I just
Speaker 2: don't like the way she goes about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, but just I'm going to push back for a second.
Speaker 1: Not that you need me to push back. I get it.
Speaker 1: I get that you are wishing us, but almost, but
Speaker 1: what about the fact that, like she if she's the
Speaker 1: one who's mad at him, if she's annoyed because he
Speaker 1: wasn't doing enough for picking up the cowboy hats or
Speaker 1: understanding her stress about all the things they needed to
Speaker 1: get done, then she was kind of mad and then
Speaker 1: she was being fake, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because if she's annoyed him and being probably being a
Speaker 1: beach to him, but then she's like, why are you
Speaker 1: not being fake in front of the cameras, then she's
Speaker 1: so mad that he embarrassed her, but like maybe he's
Speaker 1: the one not being fake, right, I don't know. Very
Speaker 1: good point, I don't know. But so she gets so
Speaker 1: mad at him at the snowmobile thing and she's super
Speaker 1: punishing and she won't speak to him. And this is
Speaker 1: where he's like, I'm sure we were both kind of
Speaker 1: cheering for him, because he's like, oh my god, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I did wrong. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to apologize. And she's like, oh, oh really, you're not
Speaker 1: going to apologize and he's like, no, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I did wrong, Like you want me to apologize,
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, I don't. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to apologize. If you don't think you did anything wrong,
Speaker 1: then you shouldn't. It's one of those things where you
Speaker 1: cannot win.
Speaker 2: You cannot win. And then she's still He's still lost
Speaker 2: because he still ended up doing it anyway, because she's
Speaker 2: manipulating that little child in him, and I'm sure she
Speaker 2: has a little child in her too, So who's none saying?
Speaker 1: I think that he's so damaged that he feels like
Speaker 1: he can't be without, like he's going to die without
Speaker 1: if she breaks up with him, which.
Speaker 2: Can I say something to do was good for her either, Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's no way about it to go about it.
Speaker 2: And also, like if she works for a company as
Speaker 2: a social worker, like usually that means you work for
Speaker 2: like the government, you know, social working is like a job,
Speaker 2: like a state job or schedule exactly. Yeah, so if
Speaker 2: I watched that, I wouldn't want her. I'd fire her
Speaker 2: based on the way she's acting in this. Honestly, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't want that person representing my company.
Speaker 1: No, And I agree that, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not like this is a you know, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you have to be kind of tough lovey with
Speaker 2: some people in that job. I get that, but like
Speaker 2: you can't, like this is crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Maybe did you think about this? Maybe there's something to
Speaker 1: the idea that she suddenly realizes how she's going to
Speaker 1: come across and she's like, oh shit, I could lose
Speaker 1: my job. So now I got to be like a
Speaker 1: little bit more vulnerable, and I got to be like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry too. I mean, maybe maybe she acts completely
Speaker 1: different when the cameras aren't around. Two. I don't know,
Speaker 1: But what's your prediction for these two?
Speaker 2: Oh? I think they're going to go to the altar
Speaker 2: and that she's going to say no mhm, because she
Speaker 2: is a sadist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I hope it's I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I hope they I hope they don't get married, but
Speaker 2: I hope it's him that says now, I would love
Speaker 2: to see that. And people can say I'm wrong all day,
Speaker 2: but that's how I see it. Maybe I am wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't know them personally, but from what I've seen, like,
Speaker 2: I think that would be a really good step for him.
Speaker 2: He seems okay on the Instagram thing. He's alive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as of today, he's thirty, you know how. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: you know how a lot of times they talk behind
Speaker 2: the scenes or we hear about it later and they
Speaker 2: say like, I'm not going to say yes.
Speaker 1: I bet you. She says like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say yes to you. So I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: maybe she's he says, okay, well, I'll let you be
Speaker 1: the one to like say no. Maybe, you know.
Speaker 2: Like see, yeah, I don't think they're getting married though, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I could be wrong. Maybe they're just putting on
Speaker 2: a I don't know, but if they do, I don't
Speaker 2: think it's going to last. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 2: at the reunion. Let's do our one that I do
Speaker 2: think is going to get married, our last one, which
Speaker 2: is our friends Jordan and Sparkle Meghan.
Speaker 1: Okay, first off, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can totally see where both of them are coming
Speaker 2: from on this one.
Speaker 1: It's very strange. He's an introvert that needs to recharge.
Speaker 2: She wants their house to be the party house, not
Speaker 2: necessarily drinking or whatever, but just she wants a lot
Speaker 2: of people around. Okay, that sometimes can be incompatible. And
Speaker 2: I don't think it's either of their faults. But I
Speaker 2: don't think he's realizing what a fucking like gold mine.
Speaker 2: And I don't just mean money wise. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's realizing how me she is. I think he's taking
Speaker 2: her up for crinks. What's your take?
Speaker 1: Okay, So my take is that these two are completely incompatible.
Speaker 1: And I also think that it's she's acting ridiculous about
Speaker 1: like she's calling. She's saying she's basically going to be
Speaker 1: the kid's mom, and it's like, check yourself, Like that's
Speaker 1: crazy talk. He has a mom, He has a mom
Speaker 1: who's with him most of the time. And they're really
Speaker 1: good friends. And they're like they're very they're very good couple.
Speaker 1: Ex couple. Yeah, so yeah, but they're getting married. If
Speaker 1: you under if the premise is.
Speaker 2: Real that they're going to get married and move in
Speaker 2: together and he's going to live with them half the time.
Speaker 1: She is a stepmom. Well, she's not interested in actually
Speaker 1: being a parent though. She's like, I want to go
Speaker 1: skiing and go golfing every day, and he's like, dude,
Speaker 1: you have a job. He has a job, and also
Speaker 1: he has a so he's like, I can't go golfing
Speaker 1: at ten am and go to fancy dinners with you
Speaker 1: all the time, like I have a five year old.
Speaker 1: And I was completely on his side with like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think she has any idea of what life
Speaker 1: would be like with a five year old. And she's
Speaker 1: especially laborizing nabeties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's like that's all she talks about is
Speaker 2: his diabetes, which is almost I thought it was kind
Speaker 2: of weird that she revealed that in conversations like yeah,
Speaker 2: this like alarm goes off and I don't know that
Speaker 2: feels like that's the kid's business.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't mind that, but what I thought was
Speaker 1: really weird was that it's like one night of like
Speaker 1: dealing with he slept over there. I think one night
Speaker 1: so far she met him one time. He slept over
Speaker 1: one night and she was like, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: couldn't like sleep, like the alarm went off. It's like, okay, girl,
Speaker 1: well that's every night, I mean your life. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's his priority. And she's like, I want to be courted.
Speaker 1: I want you to, like go see a car you're
Speaker 1: on that. I'm with her.
Speaker 2: I think you could do both. He can be a
Speaker 2: dad and also like try a little bit. I think
Speaker 2: he's a little dicky. I think he's a little shut down,
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's appreciating. I can see both
Speaker 2: sides on this one. I saw somebody on Reddit that
Speaker 2: posted a picture of him next to Andy from the office,
Speaker 2: and now I can't help see it. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: totally yeah, like Ed Handy, Yes, Ed helms at home,
Speaker 2: well the chief he is. I think he's cute. I
Speaker 2: think she's gorgeous. Like I think that they are gonna
Speaker 2: say yes. I think that they're gonna make it. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they'll make it forever, but I see
Speaker 2: something here I mean it was kind of funny. That
Speaker 2: scene was funny where she's like, did I not tell
Speaker 2: you my numerology?
Speaker 1: Shit?
Speaker 2: He's like what he takes off his like these weird
Speaker 2: hats they had made Barry Kyle Richards Colorado. Remember when
Speaker 2: they had those hats, Like because they went to Kimo Sabby,
Speaker 2: which is exactly hat that. Yeah, it's like so dumb.
Speaker 2: So they do all that and she's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I went looked at a house today, but it just
Speaker 2: fell off. Fell off. Really good school district for you know,
Speaker 2: but like just didn't feel right. Most of the numerology.
Speaker 2: We're looking for a six. He's like wait what wait
Speaker 2: what She's like, yeah, did I not tell you my thing?
Speaker 2: You add up your house numbers and like if you
Speaker 2: have a seven, if you have an eight, it's very
Speaker 2: fan it's money. She's I have had eights, but I
Speaker 2: need a six for family gatherings.
Speaker 1: And his face like it's like the moment.
Speaker 2: You realize someone's crazy and you know that you have
Speaker 2: to back out of the room. You can't, you can't
Speaker 2: turn your back. No, I actually say that, but I
Speaker 2: don't think she's crazy. I think that's just like one
Speaker 2: of her weird things like me with Meyers Briggs. Okay,
Speaker 2: I everyone I've ever met take that, so like what
Speaker 2: do I know?
Speaker 1: Well, I get it. And also, and I do not
Speaker 1: mean I'm more sensitive to this because I do have kids,
Speaker 1: and I please don't hear that as like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: a mom and you're a baron whore, so you don't understand.
Speaker 1: But am you? I have a you might not have
Speaker 1: clocked this. So I'm just gonna say something that I
Speaker 1: noticed that I think somebody that doesn't have kids might
Speaker 1: not notice. But it was very, very weird for her
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, it's a really good school district. He's
Speaker 1: not going to move with his kid. Oh that she
Speaker 1: does didn't have back, right, she doesn't have he doesn't
Speaker 1: have full time custody. So now like according to where
Speaker 1: Megan wants to live because she's going to buy a house,
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, well look at me. I'm like
Speaker 1: a mom. I'm thinking about school. It's so right, I'm
Speaker 1: the kid's mom. I'm like, are you fucking out of
Speaker 1: your mind? Bitch? Like you're not moving different.
Speaker 2: School is fifty to fifty. You're not like, oh I
Speaker 2: hate this school. When I'm with my dad. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that's such a good point. I'm so unrealistic of her.
Speaker 2: And I am sure that he thought that and just
Speaker 2: wasn't going to be like, we're not moving him out
Speaker 2: of his school district, like he's What happens when people,
Speaker 2: you know, even get divorced is whoever has like the
Speaker 2: primary custody, like is where the school district is. Like
Speaker 2: I didn't even think of that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's so nice. I was like, that didn't even occur
Speaker 2: to me. I was like, that's not nice. That's fucking
Speaker 2: crazy of her.
Speaker 1: And she's just has she doesn't have great boundaries with
Speaker 1: talking about like being a mom. It's very fantasy driven.
Speaker 1: And I worry about the fact that she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'm bored. I want to have conversations and and
Speaker 1: I understand I would be frustrated too if he doesn't
Speaker 1: really talk much and he's like, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell you about my day. It's like, okay, well
Speaker 1: you kind of got to do that. And I was
Speaker 1: on her side when she's like, okay, but in the pods,
Speaker 1: you were like fun and funny and like different, this
Speaker 1: is not an odd Yeah, he was a dick. He
Speaker 1: was being a dick. I agree. I could totally see
Speaker 1: where she and I think she's not doesn't. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is crazy. Her fan. The whole thing is crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean the whole thing that they meet and thing
Speaker 2: and have to get married a month later, Like it's
Speaker 2: all ridiculous. So you know they're going to get people
Speaker 2: that are like, yeah, I'm really down for this experiment.
Speaker 2: So she thinks she's going all in in all the
Speaker 2: right ways. But I know she's young and nuts. You know,
Speaker 2: they're all crazy to be on the show.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I like them both, I really
Speaker 1: do think. But she's acting like she's retired. She's like,
Speaker 1: I already worked hard. I did all that I worked
Speaker 1: so I could relate. I think she can. Then why
Speaker 1: did she pick him? Why didn't she pick Mike?
Speaker 2: I think they're soulmates now. I think if one of
Speaker 2: them is going to say no to the other, it's
Speaker 2: going to be him. So they're going to make it
Speaker 2: to the altar, And if it's going to be a no,
Speaker 2: I think he'll say no. I don't think she will.
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're doing a little mislead
Speaker 1: and they're showing us a moment of tension, and I
Speaker 1: think they're going to say yes. I got nobody say yes.
Speaker 2: All we have left is Kabi and Edmund and Megan
Speaker 2: and Jordan. Right wait is there anybody else?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, oh Ali Ali and right. So this is
Speaker 1: what we're left with. Oh God, okay, we do need
Speaker 1: to make our predictions because the next episode is the
Speaker 1: final is the weddings?
Speaker 2: Right, so my god, hold on the weirdest sound. Oh
Speaker 2: it's a motorcycle. I understand that sound. I've heard that before.
Speaker 2: What is that ghost? So yeah, it's a car? Okay,
Speaker 2: got it?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 2: Anton Alli No, No, She'll say no, okay Edmund, and
Speaker 2: I'm hoping Edmund says no, but I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be KB that says no. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 2: make it, and then I think Megan and Jordan will
Speaker 2: make it.
Speaker 1: Okay, same, I think we saw it.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, no spoilers, you guys. Thank you
Speaker 2: a tune tomorrow we have Golden Batch.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna we have to go watch it now
Speaker 1: or you might watch it in the morning, but I
Speaker 1: gotta watch it all right, everybody? Bye? We love you
Speaker 1: more than you love us, Bye, Bye,