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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome home. I'm Dean Sharp, the House Whisper, custom
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Speaker 1: like to do recently. No, I've fallen into this habit
Speaker 1: and I just love it. I just love taking Saturday
Speaker 1: morning and taking as many calls as we can. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: talk about regarding your home, anything at all, inside, outside, design, construction,
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Speaker 1: By the way, the Big Show tomorrow, tomorrow's show, next
Speaker 1: episode on the podcast, we're gonna be talking about fix it,
Speaker 1: fix it stuff because it's springtime and people are finally realizing,
Speaker 1: you know, all right, the weather is great, winter is over.
Speaker 1: I got to get around and get some of these
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna be talking about fix it tips tomorrow
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Speaker 1: We can talk a little bit about those today too,
Speaker 1: But mostly I would love to find out what's going
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Speaker 4: Morning, my friend. How are you today?
Speaker 1: I am good. How are you doing good?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm trying to stay awake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's going this morning? Right now? It's a dcaf green,
Speaker 1: but I will be going to caffeine very soon. Oh
Speaker 1: all right, so she's starting with a decaf green, but
Speaker 1: then she's got deep dive.
Speaker 4: Deep dive in.
Speaker 1: Ah good. Sitting across the table from me, Gosh, look
Speaker 1: at her. Oh my gosh. Here, I'll turn your mic on.
Speaker 4: That's nice.
Speaker 1: There you go. There's your spirit animal. Uh. You get
Speaker 1: that puzzle to start today. By the way, sitting across
Speaker 1: the table from me, my better half through it clearly,
Speaker 1: you're like, you didn't have to say that, Dean. What happened?
Speaker 1: Did your mic just fall off?
Speaker 4: We're good?
Speaker 1: Okay? Uh my design partner, the co owner, co founder
Speaker 1: of House Whisper, most importantly to me, my best friend
Speaker 1: in all the world. Uh, Tina is here.
Speaker 4: Welcome home.
Speaker 1: How you do? You're holding your mic down? It just
Speaker 1: fell off the arm. I'll fix it, all right, we'll
Speaker 1: get it fixed. We'll get it fixed. I heard your
Speaker 1: elephant just now, and it reminded me that we've got
Speaker 1: that puzzle. Yes that Uh you an elephant. It's such
Speaker 1: a sweet picture. It's an elephant trying to balance herself
Speaker 1: on a tea cup, right, yeah, teapot service.
Speaker 4: She attempted to.
Speaker 1: There's on tea cups. There are some broken tea cups
Speaker 1: around her feet.
Speaker 4: But she's done a really good job of an done it.
Speaker 1: She's such a sweetheart that that is such a sweet picture.
Speaker 4: We were a puzzle lab. Yeah, if you've ever heard
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 1: We were in Albuquerque this week on Monday, Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: Wednesday on working on a home design for a client,
Speaker 1: and we were in Old Town. We went to Old
Speaker 1: Town to kind of just cruise through. All the shops
Speaker 1: in Old Town are just really cool. Oh, the pottery,
Speaker 1: the art, I mean, the Native American art there, the
Speaker 1: tribal art. There's so many stuff. But then we ran
Speaker 1: into a puzzle store which they had puzzle lab puzzles.
Speaker 1: And if you know anything about puzzle lab puzzles, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't, obviously, I'll tell you right now. They are.
Speaker 1: They're the amazing puzzles and Tina loves Loves loves puzzles,
Speaker 1: jigsaw puzzles. They're made of wood, they're cut from wood,
Speaker 1: and they've got these beautiful images. I mean, once you
Speaker 1: build one, and they're not easy to do as far
Speaker 1: as execute the puzzle because so many of the pieces
Speaker 1: are the same shape and yet they're and then scattered
Speaker 1: in between, there's all these random animal shapes and they're
Speaker 1: just there are works of art and and a lot
Speaker 1: of people once they assemble them, they'll mount them to
Speaker 1: a board and hang them on a frame, like on
Speaker 1: a wall, because they're just works of art.
Speaker 4: And I say, do yourself a favorite and look them
Speaker 4: up online.
Speaker 1: Puzzle lab, Yes, puzzle lab dot com. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just search for puzzle abb.
Speaker 4: The original puzzle lab I believe is in Victoria, Canada.
Speaker 1: Victoria, British Columbia. Yeah, we walked into that store too.
Speaker 1: And when we walked into this guy's store, we were
Speaker 1: looking around. We're like, hey, wooden puzzles, just like that
Speaker 1: place in uh in Victorian. He's like, yeah, they're right
Speaker 1: over here, puzzle Lab.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was a good trip to Albuquerque.
Speaker 1: Wonderful clients, just to die for clients, and we had
Speaker 1: a good time. Albuquerque not not the most exciting city
Speaker 1: in the world. Okay, it's not like, you know, an
Speaker 1: international destination for a lot of people. But I got
Speaker 1: to tell you friendly that was one of the friendliest
Speaker 1: towns I think we've ever been in as far. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know when the TSA agent agents at the airport
Speaker 1: are like, oh my gosh, let me take a look
Speaker 1: at your ID here. Well, you guys are going back.
Speaker 1: Why are you leaving here? Why are you leaving and
Speaker 1: going back to southern California? You're gonna miss the Chilis
Speaker 1: and just on. And I'm like, when a TSA agent
Speaker 1: at the airport is one of the nicest people you've
Speaker 1: met that day, you know you're in a friendly town.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going on and on. Listen, I've got
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Speaker 6: Guy Keean sharp the house whisper, Hey, whether your home
Speaker 6: is a condo, cottage or what's another sea word, a castle, condo, cottager, castle,
Speaker 6: I am here to help you take it to the
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Speaker 1: One of our themes here on The program that I
Speaker 1: have tried to communicate faithfully over the years is very
Speaker 1: simply this. The rules of architecture apply across the board.
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're living in a
Speaker 1: tiny little shed or a multi room mansion. The fact
Speaker 1: is you two can have a great design and great
Speaker 1: architecture in your home and truly make that house a home.
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Speaker 1: reward our very first caller today. Brenda. Hey, Brenda, welcome home.
Speaker 7: Hey, thank you. Welcome into my home too.
Speaker 1: Thanks. I like it here. Wait, let me look around,
Speaker 1: m Okay, how can I help you?
Speaker 7: Yes, I have a painter painted a couple of years
Speaker 7: ago my kitchen, all because I have an old kitchen
Speaker 7: covers and stuff, and so he painted over the original
Speaker 7: wood stain with white paint. So now I have some
Speaker 7: nicks and corners and stuff that need touched up, which
Speaker 7: I can do myself, but I just need to know.
Speaker 7: Probably there'll be some standing in some areas. I don't know,
Speaker 7: but I just need to know how to prep before
Speaker 7: I paint. And I know that I have to clean
Speaker 7: like outside of my facia with some kind of a
Speaker 7: cleaning solution to deal with the grease and handprints and stuff.
Speaker 7: And I that's what I don't know what to buy
Speaker 7: for the cleaning to prep it.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha? Well there's actually I like to recommend
Speaker 1: two steps, two steps in the cleaning process pre paint.
Speaker 1: If you're just cleaning your cabinets, you don't do the
Speaker 1: second step here. But if we're getting ready for paint,
Speaker 1: then two steps one and it's very simple. You can
Speaker 1: use a just a dish soap like Dawn dish soap.
Speaker 1: I prefer to run down to the hardware store and
Speaker 1: get some Murphy's Oils soap. Okay, Murphy's Oil soap for
Speaker 1: wood is just fantastic. It has It's not gonna get
Speaker 1: your cabinets all slippery or anything like that. It's just
Speaker 1: a wonderful wood cleaning solution and it'll help get all
Speaker 1: the you know, that's the first step to get the
Speaker 1: grease and grime and anything that's left over off. And
Speaker 1: you don't have to abrasively scrub or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Just be patient and be gentle with it, and and
Speaker 1: give them a good bath with Murphy's Oil soap for wood,
Speaker 1: or even a mild dish washing detergent. Honestly, they work
Speaker 1: just great. Then then the next step would be one
Speaker 1: nice you know, once they're nice and clean, one nice
Speaker 1: wipe down to get any residue off with a mixture
Speaker 1: of white vinegar and water. One to one mix of
Speaker 1: white vinegar and water. And what that's gonna do, Brenda,
Speaker 1: Not only will it finish off the cleaning, it'll take
Speaker 1: off any residue of soap left behind for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: But the vinegar vinegar has, you know, is essentially acetic acid.
Speaker 1: It is a just a very very mild, wonderful acid
Speaker 1: that that doesn't hurt anything, but it'll help open up
Speaker 1: the porosity of the surface of the paint that's there,
Speaker 1: which means that the new paint will just bond to
Speaker 1: it really really well. Now, if your cabinets are super
Speaker 1: shiny as far as the paint goes, and you're and
Speaker 1: you're gonna do a larger area of paint, then I
Speaker 1: don't really want you to sand unless you're trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of some bad you know nick, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, bad impression. You don't really need to sand them,
Speaker 1: but you may want to take some steel wool something
Speaker 1: like that and just buff the sheene down on the
Speaker 1: surface that you're about to paint again. It's not about
Speaker 1: sanding it as in the sense of trying to smooth
Speaker 1: out something that is rough and bumpy. It's a steel
Speaker 1: wool that comes in in different different oughts. When you
Speaker 1: go to the store and you're in the paint section,
Speaker 1: you're looking at steel wool, they'll be a single zero
Speaker 1: all the way up to four zeros. The four zero
Speaker 1: is the finest. I like to do a three hought
Speaker 1: or four hought steel wool, and you're just kind of
Speaker 1: taking the sheen off so that it goes dull looking
Speaker 1: and not shiny. Once you're at that place with a
Speaker 1: clean cabinet, it's ready for another coated paint.
Speaker 7: Wonderful What I wanted to know on that you said,
Speaker 7: the uh, the spread for fineness is like zero to
Speaker 7: four mm.
Speaker 1: Hmm, yeah, and you'll live on the bag. Zero zero
Speaker 1: is more coarse than four. Four is the finest, the
Speaker 1: more zero, the finer, the steel wool.
Speaker 7: Great, oh great, this is just this is awesome, awesome
Speaker 7: for me and I just thank you so much.
Speaker 8: Dean.
Speaker 1: It's great and you are very welcome. Thank you for
Speaker 1: listening to the show. Thanks for being up with me
Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, Hello to Tina.
Speaker 1: All right, you have fun with those cabinets, all right, y'all.
Speaker 1: More of your calls when we return. The number to
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Speaker 1: here on this lovely Saturday morning. Is it the twelfth?
Speaker 1: Today is the twelfth of April, is it not? Yes,
Speaker 1: it is first day of first evening of Passover. Tonight.
Speaker 1: By the way, for those of you who need to know,
Speaker 1: there you go. It's going to be a lovely, lovely weekend.
Speaker 1: As far as I know, we're still in the mid
Speaker 1: seventies today, right, yeah, today and tomorrow and then we're
Speaker 1: dropping back into the sixties here in southern California.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: Spring has sprung too many good things to say about it.
Speaker 1: Tina and I are going to buy some chickens this morning,
Speaker 1: some chicks, little chicks. It's chick Day with Olivia, our
Speaker 1: grand Anyway, more on that in a bit, but right now,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the phones. It is
Speaker 1: an all calls Saturday morning with us, and we've got
Speaker 1: some calls on the board. We still have room for you,
Speaker 1: by the way, eight three three two, ask Dean, eight
Speaker 1: three three the numeral two. Ask Dean. Let's talk to Sandy. Hey, Sandy,
Speaker 1: welcome home.
Speaker 9: Hey, how you doing this morning? Sounds like it's a
Speaker 9: good day so far? Right if so far?
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing in the way, so far. Just woke up.
Speaker 1: The crickets were cricks, creaking, creaking, chirping, surfing. It is,
Speaker 1: you know what early spring mornings in southern California. I
Speaker 1: think probably everywhere early spring morning. It just feels like
Speaker 1: like the air just took a like a hot shower
Speaker 1: and taking a bed like scrubbed itself clean and smells
Speaker 1: like I mean, it's just wow. The air is so fresh,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. I'm going to spend as much time outside
Speaker 1: today as possible. Anyway, Sandy, how can I help you?
Speaker 9: Well? Eighteen years ago, when I moved into my condo,
Speaker 9: I gutted the kitchen, which was a good thing because
Speaker 9: trust me, it needed it. So it was down to
Speaker 9: bare walls, and they, they, because I didn't personally do it,
Speaker 9: did a great job of putting it back together with
Speaker 9: the way I wanted it. At the time, I did
Speaker 9: not have a kitchen aid mixer. Subsequently, a few years ago,
Speaker 9: I saw on some programs where there was this contraption
Speaker 9: that fits in a cabinet so that when you open
Speaker 9: the cabinet door, this contraption comes up, either with or
Speaker 9: without the kitchen aid on it and creates its own stand,
Speaker 9: but then puts it all away when you close the
Speaker 9: cabinet door. Again, what do you call the silly thing?
Speaker 9: I want to be able to buy one and put
Speaker 9: it in.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a thing of a jig what you
Speaker 1: call it thing? That's what? No, No, it's it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: it is a here's what you need to find. You're
Speaker 1: going to find it instantly. Our favorite version is made
Speaker 1: by rev A Shelf, r e V Dash a Dass
Speaker 1: Dash Shelf, Reva Shelf. They are one of the most dependable, reliable,
Speaker 1: best made cabinet hardware companies for aftermarket products especially, but
Speaker 1: even for custom stuff. If I was just talking to
Speaker 1: John Cordero about this last show, this last Sunday show
Speaker 1: in our kitchen cabinet show Reva shelf, and it is
Speaker 1: the technical term is it is a mixer or appliance lift. Okay,
Speaker 1: So if you put in Revas shelf mixer lift, you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna hit that. There will deal be all
Speaker 1: over the place. You'll see them everywhere. Okay. Home Depot
Speaker 1: sells them. You can buy them on Amazon, you know.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: The only trick is understand this that that this goes
Speaker 1: in a cabinet base cabinet that doesn't have a drawer
Speaker 1: at the top. Okay, And it doesn't mean that it can't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I think some of them can fit
Speaker 1: in a lower if it's a really small drawer. But
Speaker 1: if you want the shelf to the lift to come
Speaker 1: up to countertop level and lock in place, then then
Speaker 1: it's a base cabinet that has a door and no
Speaker 1: no drawer, and that can be altered too, especially if
Speaker 1: you have frameless cabinets, you could you could alter a
Speaker 1: cabinet for that. But yes, the mixer sits on this
Speaker 1: shelf and you open the cabinet door and you just
Speaker 1: grab the lever there and up it comes. You never
Speaker 1: move the mixer, you never have to. It locks in place,
Speaker 1: and when you're done, you hit the little tab and
Speaker 1: unlock it and boom, spring loaded. It just slowly and
Speaker 1: gently finds its way back into the cabinet. You shut
Speaker 1: the door and walk away, And that is a mixer left.
Speaker 9: Sounds awesome. Do you have any idea how much they
Speaker 9: would retail for?
Speaker 8: They?
Speaker 1: Uh, okay, I'm thinking they are in the low two hundreds.
Speaker 1: I think that you can probably find them for you know,
Speaker 1: two twenty two forty something like that out there.
Speaker 8: Awesome, awesome, awesome.
Speaker 9: It's about time when you know, eighteen years later that
Speaker 9: I put a new face on my kitchen. And that's
Speaker 9: one of the things I want to do to it.
Speaker 9: So thank you very very much and have a great
Speaker 9: rest of your days.
Speaker 1: Sandy, you two, thanks for calling. I love your energy.
Speaker 1: Get out there and make a great day out of it.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, more of your calls when we return
Speaker 1: your home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. Heyfi, Dean Sharp,
Speaker 1: the House Whisper. Welcome home. Thanks for joining us here
Speaker 1: on the program. It's a beautiful, beautiful Saturday spring morning
Speaker 1: here in southern California. I hope wherever you are, the
Speaker 1: weather is treating you well and you're ready to take
Speaker 1: on the day because you know what it's today. Today
Speaker 1: is the day that we've got to take it on.
Speaker 1: So let's step into it and make the most of it.
Speaker 1: We're making the most of it this morning because it's
Speaker 1: an all calls morning. The number to reach me eight
Speaker 1: three three two Ask Dean eight three three the numeral
Speaker 1: to ask Dean. We're doing this more and more on
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings. It's just it seems like just a really
Speaker 1: good fit, a great way to start the weekend. I
Speaker 1: know it is for me having conversations with you about
Speaker 1: your home and helping you through. So let's go back
Speaker 1: to the phones. I want to talk to Andrea. Is
Speaker 1: it Andrea or Andrea?
Speaker 8: It's Andrea, Andrea, good morning, Good morning. I envy that
Speaker 8: you can have chickens. I would love to have chickens again,
Speaker 8: Alas it's not allowed where I live.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah they are, they're the best. And we've
Speaker 1: got some old girls here, literally, some old girls, some freeloaders,
Speaker 1: really curran laying eggs anymore. They're just eat my food.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we're gonna pick up is it?
Speaker 1: How many were going forward?
Speaker 8: Tina?
Speaker 1: Nine? She's like, I want nine new chicks, and we have.
Speaker 1: We've built our henhouse so that we can divide up
Speaker 1: the two groups and we can let the little ones
Speaker 1: grow up safely without being pecked by the older girls
Speaker 1: until they get until they get old enough to stand
Speaker 1: up for themselves. So it's going to be fun.
Speaker 8: That sounds like fun. That's I hope you name them all?
Speaker 1: Oh, we do. We do. We give all of our
Speaker 1: chickens old lady names all old lady. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but it just seems appropriate. So Tina's got a whole list.
Speaker 1: We'll be ready to go. How can I help you
Speaker 1: By the way, thanks for talking to me about my chickens.
Speaker 1: It's always potential love chicckens.
Speaker 8: I'm always so jealous when I hear because I used
Speaker 8: to have chickens a long time ago. Anyway, I live
Speaker 8: in a tract of connected homes that were built in
Speaker 8: nineteen sixty four on top of a hill, a tall hill,
Speaker 8: overlooking the ocean, and I'm not right on the ocean,
Speaker 8: but it's a mile away and it's a beautiful view.
Speaker 8: But unfortunately, the way people used to set things up,
Speaker 8: there's two bathrooms that are connected and they're right in
Speaker 8: the middle of the view. So the room on one
Speaker 8: side of the bathroom has a gorgeous view, and my
Speaker 8: bedroom on the other side of the master bathroom has
Speaker 8: a gorgeous view. But these bathrooms are blocking a gorgeous view,
Speaker 8: and a lot of people over the years have taken
Speaker 8: It's an atrium that was originally built around these two bathrooms,
Speaker 8: so you had like a little garden to look at.
Speaker 8: But I want to see the view, but I don't
Speaker 8: want to put a wall up and a window. I
Speaker 8: have a bathtub which I spent a lot of time
Speaker 8: in and I'd like to be able to look at
Speaker 8: the ocean. And so I've over the years I've been
Speaker 8: here for almost thirty years, has thought about solutions and
Speaker 8: it needs to be some sort of a sense. I
Speaker 8: would guess that would have louvers, like vertical lovers made
Speaker 8: out of metal. And I noticed that a lot of
Speaker 8: restaurants have these roofs that look like that, and I've
Speaker 8: looked it up and they're enormously expensive. And you know,
Speaker 8: I can't afford to spend twenty thousand dollars on a
Speaker 8: twenty foot of cents. So I've thought of other solutions,
Speaker 8: like maybe two you know, a metal fence fixed that
Speaker 8: has a flat, you know, an opening space, and then
Speaker 8: put another fence next to it, and if you move
Speaker 8: it over two inches, the one will cover the empty
Speaker 8: flat of the other. Get what I mean? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 8: Like you could have them pass each other, only one
Speaker 8: would be fixed.
Speaker 1: Ye Are you trying to go for privacy and view
Speaker 1: at the same time or security and view at the
Speaker 1: same time?
Speaker 8: Privacy, privacy and view. So and I also live in
Speaker 8: a very fire high fire danger, so I can't really
Speaker 8: use wood and it is time to take the old
Speaker 8: wooden fence that's around there now down because of all
Speaker 8: the fire issues that we've got, So it would preferably
Speaker 8: be some sort of metal or something that doesn't burn.
Speaker 8: I don't know what else that would be, right, So
Speaker 8: I've also thought about putting a screen or we get
Speaker 8: wind and you know what.
Speaker 1: Do you think, well, you know, not being there to
Speaker 1: kind of I'm trying to visualize it so that you
Speaker 1: can capture the angle of the view but still have
Speaker 1: privacy from other angles. Is that is that kind of
Speaker 1: the gist of it, And that's why you're thinking of
Speaker 1: the slats, the angled slats, right, But it.
Speaker 8: Would have to be something that can either be tilted
Speaker 8: to close because as on the other side of this
Speaker 8: fence is part of my yard and so there's times
Speaker 8: when there might be people walking out there, you know,
Speaker 8: or a gardener walking by, that kind of thing, So
Speaker 8: I have to be able to close it off.
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, yeah, And I thought too about like
Speaker 5: putting up a metal fence that would have that has
Speaker 5: a gap, you know, gap so that you.
Speaker 8: Generally see the view, and then maybe have some sort
Speaker 8: of roller shade that would come down. I don't just
Speaker 8: can't imagine how pretty that would be from the inside
Speaker 8: of the bathroom though, because you know, that just doesn't
Speaker 8: sound very appealing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, it's difficult for me to imagine
Speaker 1: exactly what all of your options are. But I like
Speaker 1: because most people, well most people are not you know,
Speaker 1: and you know this, that's why you've been trying to
Speaker 1: scratching your head at this for thirty years. Most people,
Speaker 1: you know, a fence is either a privacy fence or
Speaker 1: it's not one or the other. Uh, it's either a
Speaker 1: it's either security or it's not, and to get both
Speaker 1: from time to time. You know which way to go,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to do it out of wood.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how to Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to save you the cost of that, other than
Speaker 1: to tell you that there are there are woods that
Speaker 1: you can treat with fire retardant, fire resistant paints that
Speaker 1: that would lower the cost of the fence itself and
Speaker 1: not worry you so much about fire damage or you know,
Speaker 1: or or fire encouragement at least. But I like the
Speaker 1: idea of a you know, basically building a section of
Speaker 1: fence for you that works very much like a shutter,
Speaker 1: you know, like a like a plant can shutter or
Speaker 1: blind So that you will have the freedom to kind
Speaker 1: of spin open the slats and close them, and you
Speaker 1: could literally build it like a shutter that is on
Speaker 1: its side, that they're attached on a pivot top and bottom,
Speaker 1: and have all the slats connected with a central board
Speaker 1: that you can just grab and close off or open
Speaker 1: up and get your view. I was going to say initially,
Speaker 1: if it was just about view, then you put something
Speaker 1: transparent up like a cable rail, so that you get
Speaker 1: security but you can see right through it. But you're
Speaker 1: also looking for privacy too, and that's the trick. The
Speaker 1: idea of the sliding slats where you can block it
Speaker 1: off and then open up, that's a good idea too.
Speaker 1: I think I would just want a lot more view
Speaker 1: out of it if I was going to all that trouble,
Speaker 1: so I think I would be conceptualizing in my head
Speaker 1: something that is essentially like a show on its on
Speaker 1: its side.
Speaker 8: Mm hmmm. I did see that there were some mechanisms
Speaker 8: available that where you could make your own, not that
Speaker 8: I would do it, but I wasn't so sure the
Speaker 8: quality might be up to snuff as opposed to these
Speaker 8: you know, industrial type ones you see in an outdoor
Speaker 8: restaurant or.
Speaker 4: You know that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there there is hardware out there that
Speaker 1: can produce that, and that you could use wood for
Speaker 1: uh to attach you just it's just going to have
Speaker 1: to be a creative solution. And that's that's the trick.
Speaker 1: You're looking for a really creative solution for that and
Speaker 1: instead of pre buying it all in metal. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a tricky It is a tricky one, Andrea, it really
Speaker 1: is a tricky one. But I am confident that it
Speaker 1: can be done. It's a matter of talking to the
Speaker 1: right fence people and really expressing, hey, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm after, or the right handy person or the right contractor,
Speaker 1: and say what can we come up with? But I
Speaker 1: can I can imagine some of the hardware and the
Speaker 1: materials in my mind to create that for you. But
Speaker 1: I really think that a shutter kind of system may
Speaker 1: be the thing that you're going for there. And and
Speaker 1: you know, building a shutter on a large fence panel scale,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not the hardest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: You could use very simple hinges on the side and
Speaker 1: a support system, a spin system. So that's my best
Speaker 1: suggestion for you. My friend without standing there staring at
Speaker 1: it and sketching you a design for it, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to encourage you keep pursuing it. I think I
Speaker 1: think you're onto the right idea. That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that shutter kind of system. Find the right person with
Speaker 1: the right hardware to get it done. But I think
Speaker 1: keep searching for that. Okay, I'm going to take a
Speaker 1: look during the break here too see if I can
Speaker 1: find anything. But I do have to go. I'm at
Speaker 1: the top of the hour and they're yelling at me.
Speaker 1: I Andrea, thank you for your call. I'm going to
Speaker 1: pursue this now. It's just scratching at the back of
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