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Speaker 2: You're back on the Dan Caplis Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in today. I've been talking about quite
Speaker 2: a few issues with Denver's constant sanctuary city actions that
Speaker 2: in dangerous citizens, things parents should watch out for in
Speaker 2: their school districts, and good advice from a school board
Speaker 2: member up in Thompson Valley.
Speaker 3: You definitely need to listen to that.
Speaker 2: But we're also shifting to focus to crime here in
Speaker 2: the state of Colorado and to talk about some of
Speaker 2: the crucial crime bills that are not getting through the
Speaker 2: legislature on the good side, but are possibly passing through
Speaker 2: the legislature on the pro criminal side. I'm bringing in
Speaker 2: State Representative Jarvis Caldwell, one of the most impressive new
Speaker 2: legislators in Colorado this year.
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4: Representative Caldwell, Hey, Christy, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely I think everyone should follow you on Twitter. If
Speaker 2: they want to know what's really going on with criminal
Speaker 2: justice and public safety issues in Colorado. Think your account
Speaker 2: is rep called well, that's c ald W E.
Speaker 5: L L.
Speaker 2: Everyone should go follow him so that you get the
Speaker 2: updates in real time. I think you were updating everyone
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night last night. I think
Speaker 2: was there hearing that win until I don't know, one
Speaker 2: thirty two am.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes you can kind of
Speaker 4: feel powerless when you're in the minority, and so I've
Speaker 4: kind of made it my mission to bring to light
Speaker 4: the craziness that's happening in the House Judiciary Committee this year.
Speaker 2: I think that's so important. And you serve on that committee, correct,
Speaker 2: That's correct. Okay, So you see all the all the
Speaker 2: bills come through, both on the Republican side Democrat side,
Speaker 2: and I think I think the one that got a
Speaker 2: lot of attention yesterday and probably should get more so
Speaker 2: that it gets killed called the bad shot and bill.
Speaker 3: Am I am? I referring to the right one?
Speaker 5: I love. I mean, that's what I've nicknamed it.
Speaker 6: Okay, other people have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's house built twelve oh six. It's called Extreme
Speaker 4: Indifferences Offenses. Not causing death, and so just to kind
Speaker 4: of give you an anecdote, because there's a lot of
Speaker 4: nuance and complexities. But the idea here is that if
Speaker 4: you do a drive by shooting and you're shooting at
Speaker 4: a crowd of people but you don't hit anyone, right now,
Speaker 4: that's a Class two felony and it's got pretty stiff punishments.
Speaker 6: It's up to I think forty eight years in prison.
Speaker 4: However, if this bill passes, then if you don't hit anybody,
Speaker 4: you could get a Class five felony, which is probation eligible.
Speaker 4: And so people have to ask themselves, do we think
Speaker 4: those involved in drive by shootings should get probation.
Speaker 6: Just because they don't hit anybody?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2: I think most people would agree clearly from understanding the
Speaker 2: bill when I was looking it up. This is first
Speaker 2: degree attempted murder, so premeditated, intentional obviously, that's what drive
Speaker 2: by shootings are, or absolut shootings like the club Q
Speaker 2: shooting in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Anyone who you shot at but.
Speaker 2: Didn't kill them, that is it would classify as a
Speaker 2: first degree attempted murder.
Speaker 3: But in my understanding, the Democrats sponsoring this bill.
Speaker 2: We're trying to completely reclassify it as a different kind
Speaker 2: of crime and thus lower the penalties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: And we actually had a Club Q survivor, the bartender
Speaker 4: from that night, who I think is actually a part owner.
Speaker 4: He was in there and he testified because the Club
Speaker 4: Q shooter was actually charged by DA Michael Allen down
Speaker 4: here in Opaso County with this extreme indifference attempted murder and.
Speaker 6: So this was actually a this gets used a lot.
Speaker 4: We had DA Walsh from Denver and testify that last
Speaker 4: year someone shot I think it was one hundred and
Speaker 4: four shots into a house with twelve people.
Speaker 5: Wow, And had this bill.
Speaker 4: Been in place, that person could have been procation eligible
Speaker 4: because they didn't hit anybody. They didn't, Thank god, they
Speaker 4: didn't hit any of those twelve people in that house,
Speaker 4: you know. And I asked the question and committee to
Speaker 4: the bill sponsors the very first question of the night,
Speaker 4: which was why this and why now? And the clips
Speaker 4: well they just they really kind of parsed out this. Well,
Speaker 4: this is an area of wall that we think could
Speaker 4: be improved.
Speaker 6: But the thing is that the DA's.
Speaker 4: Council, which is made up of all twenty three das
Speaker 4: from across the state. They literally represent every single person
Speaker 4: in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 6: They came out in opposition of this.
Speaker 4: Now they only take positions if they're unanimous, so they
Speaker 4: unanimously opposed this bill.
Speaker 6: And that's made up of Republican and.
Speaker 4: Democrat das and still, you know, members on Judiciary. I
Speaker 4: think it's very ideological, and I think they just.
Speaker 5: They believe they know better.
Speaker 4: We've got some public defenders on judiciary and they almost
Speaker 4: always side with the criminals.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: That's it's insane, honestach saying that word, but I can't
Speaker 2: can't think of a better one, because I think if
Speaker 2: you went out and surveyed members of the public, like
Speaker 2: they want to be kept safe from these kinds of people.
Speaker 2: These are not the kind of people you want walking
Speaker 2: and driving down your streets and going into restaurants and
Speaker 2: being outside of your house and establish establishments that people
Speaker 2: want to feel safe in. These are not the kind
Speaker 2: of people who should be free in society because they
Speaker 2: clearly plan to kill people and just because they're bad
Speaker 2: at doing it again, thank god they are, But doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that they shouldn't be put away from society. And
Speaker 2: I think this is pretty obvious if you ask a
Speaker 2: random person on the street, and obviously to the da
Speaker 2: is to your point, the ones who see these people
Speaker 2: in real life and have to collect the evidence and
Speaker 2: prosecute them, they see how dangerous this is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I just want to add something else on
Speaker 4: your listener's radars, which is almost every single, if not
Speaker 4: every single Democrat on how juditionary believe that cash bond
Speaker 4: is unconstitutional And now so if you think about that,
Speaker 4: you could other than first degree murder, I mean you
Speaker 4: could rob someone, you can shoot them, stab them, carjack
Speaker 4: on and the Democrats on how studentsary believe that if
Speaker 4: you got arrested for one of those crimes shooting someone,
Speaker 4: as long as it wasn't first degree murder, you should
Speaker 4: be immediately released until your trial day. And so we
Speaker 4: could literally have people walking around the streets if they
Speaker 4: get rid of cash bond.
Speaker 5: And I think that's something they all want to do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: I think they maybe just think they can't get it
Speaker 4: through the main house just yet.
Speaker 3: It's not quite yet.
Speaker 2: And we're talking to Representative Jarvis Caldwell from Caldor Springs
Speaker 2: here on the Dan Kapla Show, And just to clarify
Speaker 2: for anyone who isn't super up on bond and cash bond,
Speaker 2: basically what you're saying is they would want to eliminate
Speaker 2: all bonds and move to like PR bonds where people
Speaker 2: just promise to show back up in court and not
Speaker 2: pay anything.
Speaker 3: Right, Is that what you're.
Speaker 6: Saying exactly right? Yeah?
Speaker 4: They again, they believe it's some constitutional and they make
Speaker 4: the argument, you know, innocent until proven guilty, and so
Speaker 4: if you get I mean if you're on video or
Speaker 4: shooting someone and you get arrested for it, they believe
Speaker 4: you should be able to just walk right out of
Speaker 4: jail with no bond until your trial day. And we
Speaker 4: all know the court systems backed up, so it may
Speaker 4: be a year or longer until you have a trial day.
Speaker 4: But that's what they believe, and they said it. You know,
Speaker 4: you and I we talked about on this show before
Speaker 4: about my no PR bonds for repe violent.
Speaker 5: Of finds, which they killed.
Speaker 4: In committee a couple of weeks ago, but they made
Speaker 4: it very explicit, including the chairman Javier Maybury. He injected
Speaker 4: his opinion on the bond issue on that and said
Speaker 4: that he believes it's unconstitutional.
Speaker 6: So I mean, when you have.
Speaker 5: The chairman of a committee saying that.
Speaker 4: It's like, how in the world are all of you
Speaker 4: guys on House Judiciary. It's literally the furthest, most radical
Speaker 4: left people on this House Judiciary Committee. Which is why
Speaker 4: I keep repeating the line that if you want to
Speaker 4: know why there's a crime problem in Colorado, gets come
Speaker 4: down to the capital, go sit in on House Judiciary
Speaker 4: Committee and he'll figure it out real quick.
Speaker 2: Well, and you make an excellent point that these people
Speaker 2: were in tech. This is your apoint but I'll make
Speaker 2: it my point. People were intentionally put on this committee.
Speaker 2: Like Democrat leadership gets to choose who serves on a committee,
Speaker 2: and for the Judiciary committee that is supposed to hear
Speaker 2: the public safety bills in Colorado, they put the most extreme,
Speaker 2: far left, pro criminal, anti victim, anti safety Democrats on
Speaker 2: this committee. So they're advancing terrible bills and then stopping
Speaker 2: and blocking great bills like the ones that you've run
Speaker 2: that would actually move Colorado from the third most dangerous
Speaker 2: state in the nation to at least a little bit
Speaker 2: more safety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty incredible.
Speaker 4: It's insane, and it's the most fashetting thing ever. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you all covered this on the show,
Speaker 4: but Rep. Brandy Bradley brought a bill.
Speaker 6: I think it was last week, and it.
Speaker 4: Was to prevent or prohibit probation for child sex assault
Speaker 4: suspects because in Colorado around seventy percent of people who
Speaker 4: commit child.
Speaker 6: Sex assault get probation. And we don't think that's we.
Speaker 3: Don't think that's right, that's not common sense.
Speaker 4: She ran bill. Yeah, she ran a bill to prohibit that,
Speaker 4: and the Democrats shot it down and the DA supported that.
Speaker 4: The show supported the bill. The HTIs of police, yeah,
Speaker 4: among others, victim advocacy groups and wow, yeah, and they
Speaker 4: shut it down.
Speaker 2: No, that's it's insane. And thank you for bringing it
Speaker 2: to light. I have to take a break on the
Speaker 2: Dan Kapla show. The Representative Jarvis called, well, definitely want
Speaker 2: to have you back to give us yet another update
Speaker 2: of all you hear on the Judiciary Committee.
Speaker 3: So thank you for joining.
Speaker 6: Us, Yes man, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm Christy Burton Brown are taking a break
Speaker 2: here on the Dan Capela Show. You can call in
Speaker 2: eight by five four zero five eight two five five
Speaker 2: Representative Jarvis called Well who sits on the Judiciary Committee
Speaker 2: among a lot of Democrats who are on the very
Speaker 2: far left. He said, a number of them are are
Speaker 2: either currently or former public defenders. And Hub Mobre, who's
Speaker 2: the chair of the committee. Look him up if you haven't,
Speaker 2: if you want to see who the Democrats at the
Speaker 2: Capitol are choosing to be the head of the committee
Speaker 2: that hears all public safety bills. He's literally a socialist Democrat,
Speaker 2: not just a Democrat.
Speaker 3: He would be the first to admit that if you
Speaker 3: look at.
Speaker 2: His Twitter and his news online, and he is constantly
Speaker 2: pro criminal, will not support any law to increase criminal penalties,
Speaker 2: no matter the type of criminal.
Speaker 3: And it's just super disturbing that those are.
Speaker 2: The members of the Judiciary Committee who are hearing these
Speaker 2: kind of bills, and the committees, if you're not familiar
Speaker 2: with how the legislature works through which all proposed bills
Speaker 2: have to go in order to make it on the
Speaker 2: House floor, of the Senate floor, members of a committee
Speaker 2: can absolute who are in the majority, can absolutely shut
Speaker 2: down an a good bill, kill a bad bill. That's
Speaker 2: what they're supposed to do. But in the case of
Speaker 2: the House Judiciary Committee. Here in Colorado, they are constantly
Speaker 2: killing bills that would crack down on crime and promoting
Speaker 2: bills that would support help or aid Act criminals.
Speaker 3: So again, no wonder.
Speaker 2: Colorado is the third most dangerous state in the nation,
Speaker 2: according to US News and World Report.
Speaker 3: I want to actually play you.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a fairly long clip, but I
Speaker 2: think it's important to play.
Speaker 3: This has been in the news recently.
Speaker 2: Pretty much every major news station has covered the Pueblo
Speaker 2: Police chief speaking about three officers who were shot by
Speaker 2: a known MS thirteen gang member who is out on
Speaker 2: a bond after being charged with multiple felonies and after
Speaker 2: having many felonies pled down to misdemeanor. Speaks this is
Speaker 2: a known, super dangerous criminal who is let back out
Speaker 2: on the street and then had to shootout that left
Speaker 2: three of his officers injured. I'm going to play you
Speaker 2: the clip, but the police chief in Pueblo, Chris Noler,
Speaker 2: specifically says, quote, the blood of my officers lays at
Speaker 2: the steps of our capital, blaming what goes on at
Speaker 2: the Capitol building, on the Judiciary Committee, on the fact
Speaker 2: that his officers are endangered and we're all shot. All
Speaker 2: are recovering currently in the hospital, but it is not
Speaker 2: to the end of the situation. I hope they continue
Speaker 2: to recover, but we don't know yet what the end
Speaker 2: result will be. Here is the report from Cardio, most of.
Speaker 7: Which led to misdemeanors. At the time of the shooting
Speaker 7: last night, he was out on bond on not one,
Speaker 7: but three felony cases and as I stated, he was
Speaker 7: wanted on attempted murder charges related to a shooting at
Speaker 7: a department conflex at Publow south Side. The blood of
Speaker 7: my officers lays at the steps of our capital.
Speaker 8: Strong worts today from Publo's chief of police after three
Speaker 8: of his officers were shot.
Speaker 3: In the line of duty tonight.
Speaker 9: He's blaming soft on crime policies for putting the entire
Speaker 9: community in danger.
Speaker 3: Good evening, I'm Heather SKULLD and I'm Bart Bedchel. Thanks
Speaker 3: for joining us, and we begin with that developing news.
Speaker 9: Three Prebla police officers are in the hospital and a
Speaker 9: man is dead after a shootout in the Best in
Speaker 9: our neighborhood.
Speaker 5: We now know that.
Speaker 8: Last night police were attempting to arrest a suspected gang
Speaker 8: member with a warrant for attempted murder when that man
Speaker 8: opened fire. Cardio thirteens Mackenzie Stafford joins US live from
Speaker 8: Northern Avenue where it all started.
Speaker 5: McKenzie.
Speaker 10: Last night, officers could be seen running from this all
Speaker 10: to down Northern Avenue for blocks. Here you can see
Speaker 10: there's even some of this crime scene tape here still
Speaker 10: left over from the night before in the ongoing investigation today.
Speaker 10: That entire time officers were running, they were exchanging gunfire
Speaker 10: with the suspect, Billy Soto. Police say that Soto fired
Speaker 10: nearly eighty rounds at law enforcement.
Speaker 2: I'm going to stop the report right there because i
Speaker 2: want to point something out that's very important revealed in
Speaker 2: this report and by the Pueblo Police chief. This guy
Speaker 2: who did a shootout with police officers, fired eighty shots
Speaker 2: and wounded three of them, was wanted on attempted murder charges. Now,
Speaker 2: in the last segment, we talked to Representative Jarvis Caldwell
Speaker 2: about a bill that's being proposed in the state capitol
Speaker 2: to take away the charge of first degree attempted murder
Speaker 2: in Colorado as a crime when there's extreme indifference for
Speaker 2: human life, very bad thing to completely remove that crime
Speaker 2: and instead replace it with a type of assault that
Speaker 2: could be probation eligible and only give someone one to
Speaker 2: four years in jail, depending on whether not someone was
Speaker 2: actually injured in the first degree murder attempt or not.
Speaker 2: So here you have actual scenarios in Colorado of how
Speaker 2: dangerous these type of criminals are. The type of criminals
Speaker 2: who are committing first degree attempted murder.
Speaker 3: You see what they do.
Speaker 2: They're willing to do shootouts with police officers and try
Speaker 2: to kill them after they already committed other attempted first
Speaker 2: degree murder. And what are the Democrats in the legislature,
Speaker 2: the people who are in charge of passing laws in
Speaker 2: Colorado want to do. Not crack down on crime, not
Speaker 2: stop these kind of criminals from getting out on bond
Speaker 2: and endangering law enforcement officers and our communities. No, Instead,
Speaker 2: their brilliant idea is to lessen the charges that can
Speaker 2: be brought against these people. As Representative Caldwell pointed out
Speaker 2: in the last segment, the DA's counts in Colorado opposed
Speaker 2: this bill, and the DA's Council only opposes or reports
Speaker 2: legislation when the vote is unanimous. If you look across
Speaker 2: the state, we have a whole lot of Democrat district attorneys.
Speaker 2: We have a whole lot of Republican district attorneys. It's
Speaker 2: not overly common that they unanimously agreed to support or
Speaker 2: oppose something. But for very obvious reasons, they opposed this bill,
Speaker 2: and testimony continued on it until about two a m.
Speaker 3: Yesterday.
Speaker 2: Instead of voting it down after all of this testimony
Speaker 2: and all these facts and all these evidence about how
Speaker 2: dangerous this would be for Colorado, the House Judiciary Committee
Speaker 2: laid it over for further testimony or further consideration.
Speaker 3: So basically they didn't kill it.
Speaker 2: They also didn't vote in favor of it yet, so
Speaker 2: perhaps they will kill it, although I'm not holding my
Speaker 2: breath because they constantly put these kind of bills through
Speaker 2: to the House floor to try to come down on
Speaker 2: the side of criminals instead of the side of law
Speaker 2: enforcement and victims. The other thing I will point out
Speaker 2: about this bill, and it's also relevant to the Pueblo
Speaker 2: Police Chief story, is that voters last year passed a
Speaker 2: truth in sentencing measure. It was the most popular citizen
Speaker 2: initiated ballot measure on the entire ballot in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Here in Colorado sponsored by the organization I Work for
Speaker 2: Advanced Colorado, and the attempted first degree murder was included
Speaker 2: in the Truth and Sentencing bill, so voters, majority of
Speaker 2: voters across Colorado said, we believe not only should that
Speaker 2: remain a crime in Colorado, but it should be subject
Speaker 2: to truth and sentencing, meaning people who are convicted of
Speaker 2: first degree attempted murders should serve at least eighty five
Speaker 2: percent of their sentence before they are eligible for parole.
Speaker 2: And now, after seeing voters, will voters intent again the
Speaker 2: most popular ballot measure in all of Colorado last year,
Speaker 2: what do the people controlling the legislature try to do.
Speaker 3: Let's just pull.
Speaker 2: Out one of those crimes out of truth and sentencing,
Speaker 2: make it a new crime that we want to put
Speaker 2: under the under assault so that it's no longer.
Speaker 3: Subject to truth and sentencing.
Speaker 2: And that is how they try to evade the will
Speaker 2: of voters and try to substitute their own judgment that
Speaker 2: is on the side of criminals for what voters clearly
Speaker 2: told them they wanted. We want to classify these people
Speaker 2: as violent enough criminals to serve at least eighty five
Speaker 2: percent of their sentence before they're parole eligible.
Speaker 3: Now there's a huge.
Speaker 2: Outcry against this bill at the Capitol, even you know,
Speaker 2: survivors of mass shootings who've come in and testified against it.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe it's not going to make it through.
Speaker 2: Since they did lay it over. That's always a very
Speaker 2: small bright spot that indicates they're at least possibly reconsidering it.
Speaker 2: Or the other option is that they just don't want
Speaker 2: to vote on it right now when all the attention
Speaker 2: and light is on it. So I think everyone should
Speaker 2: be contacting the members of the House Judiciary Committee, the
Speaker 2: Democrats of course specifically, and tell them to make sure
Speaker 2: they do not pass this bill and put it through.
Speaker 2: Extremely dangerous, as illustrated by this recent situation in Pueblo
Speaker 2: where the Publo police chief says the blood of his
Speaker 2: officers is laized on the steps of the Capitol, a
Speaker 2: very serious and true accusation.
Speaker 3: I'm Christie Britton Brown. You're on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to be talking to
Speaker 2: Auror City Councilwoman Danielle Duriski about the two escapees from
Speaker 2: the Ice detention facility and her view of what the
Speaker 2: real facts are here on the dan.
Speaker 3: CAPLA show.
Speaker 2: The en You can call in any time you want
Speaker 2: four zero eight two five five. One of the big
Speaker 2: pieces of news in Colorado over the last twenty four
Speaker 2: hours has been the fact that a couple inmates escaped
Speaker 2: from the Ice detention facility in Aurora.
Speaker 3: Now, I think Nine News, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If they were the first to break it or if
Speaker 2: they were just the first one's I saw on Instagram.
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, one.
Speaker 2: Thing that one of the Nine News reporters saw, and
Speaker 2: then other outlets continue to report, was that local law
Speaker 2: enforcement decline to help ICE find these detainees who escaped. Now,
Speaker 2: from the reports that I've seen, I think some power
Speaker 2: went out at the Ice detention facility, a door opened up,
Speaker 2: and these two guys I had to go out in
Speaker 2: the community and or run away and go free. Now
Speaker 2: I know at least one of them, it's my understanding,
Speaker 2: at least one of them had had a criminal charge
Speaker 2: from Adams County, I believe, and had been moved over
Speaker 2: to the Ice detention facility in Aurora. I mean, probably
Speaker 2: clear up those details. Aurora Councilwoman Daniel Drinsky is supposed
Speaker 2: to join us on the show as soon as she's.
Speaker 3: Able to call in. I'll certainly bring her in when
Speaker 3: she does.
Speaker 2: But he has an interesting perspective on it that I
Speaker 2: think you need to hear, because while news is reporting
Speaker 2: that local law enforcement declined to cooperate with ICE in
Speaker 2: finding these two escapees from the ICE detention facility, it
Speaker 2: really brings to light a state level.
Speaker 3: Problem here in Colorado.
Speaker 2: It's not that we just have local law enforcement saying no, thanks,
Speaker 2: don't want to find people who escape from detention facilities.
Speaker 2: It's that we actually have sanctuary state laws in Colorado
Speaker 2: that prohibit local law enforcement from cooperating with ICE, barring
Speaker 2: a few exceptional circumstances.
Speaker 3: And so when you have scenarios.
Speaker 2: Where ICE is asking for help, but you have a
Speaker 2: state law that bans local law enforcement from cooperating with them,
Speaker 2: you put local law enforcement in a very difficult position.
Speaker 2: Of course, their goal is to keep a community safe
Speaker 2: to hunt it down criminals. But Daniel Drinsky could certainly
Speaker 2: make it more clear because she's on the ground understanding
Speaker 2: exactly what's happening in Aurora, having more of the details
Speaker 2: available to her. But it's my understanding that ICE didn't
Speaker 2: actually communicate in the best way with local law enforcement.
Speaker 2: I don't think ICE reported to them that there were
Speaker 2: criminal warrants out for these escapees. Because there is an
Speaker 2: immigration law, there's civil detainers, and then there's criminal warrants.
Speaker 3: If you enter the.
Speaker 2: Country illegally, you have committed a civil violation. But in
Speaker 2: order to commit a criminal violation, I have a criminal warrant.
Speaker 2: You also have to also participate in crime. Now, typically
Speaker 2: most of the people who enter the ICE detention facility
Speaker 2: here in Colorado got caught because they did commit a crime.
Speaker 2: So whether it's a low level crime or high level crime,
Speaker 2: and both exist, that's often why people get sent to
Speaker 2: the ICE attention facility, but it is not always the
Speaker 2: reason that they do. Sometimes people are picked up by
Speaker 2: ICE because they violated the civil immigration law, and so
Speaker 2: there is a distinction there, and a lot of people think, well, hey,
Speaker 2: it is a crime to across the border. It is
Speaker 2: a civil violation, which is actually different from violating the
Speaker 2: criminal code.
Speaker 3: And so there is that distinction there.
Speaker 2: And so when you live in a sanctuary state like Colorado,
Speaker 2: that bans you as law enforcement from actually working with
Speaker 2: ICE and cooperating unless there is a detainer issued by
Speaker 2: a federal court.
Speaker 3: Therein often lies the problem. So sometimes local law enforcement.
Speaker 2: Can get accused of failing to keep people safe, when
Speaker 2: really it is the state law that is the problem.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the situation here and these two
Speaker 2: guys that escape from the ICE detention facility.
Speaker 3: It is the state law that's the problem.
Speaker 2: It is one of a host of illustrations of why
Speaker 2: the sanctuary state law has made Colorado so dangerous. It's
Speaker 2: why the TDA gang from Venezuela has made Denver their
Speaker 2: national headquarters, because hey, Denver's a sanctuary city in the
Speaker 2: middle of a sanctuary state, So why wouldn't international dangerous
Speaker 2: gang make that city its headquarters. And I think we
Speaker 2: just continue to see when a state allows crime to
Speaker 2: run rampant in a state because you don't crack down
Speaker 2: on it, what actually happens is you invite more and
Speaker 2: more criminal elements, You invite more and more crime to happen,
Speaker 2: and then you tie the hands of law enforcement who
Speaker 2: wants to keep their community safe but simply are no
Speaker 2: longer given the tools of the authority to do so.
Speaker 3: If you have thoughts on this, you can.
Speaker 2: Call in eight five five four zero five eight two
Speaker 2: five five. I'm Christy Burton Brown filling in for Dan
Speaker 2: Kaplis today. I'm going to see if I can find
Speaker 2: a clip to play for you on Donald Trump calling
Speaker 2: the TDA gang foreign combatants, and here I've located it.
Speaker 2: Jay Town, who's a former US attorney, says that this
Speaker 2: was absolutely correct of President Trump to do.
Speaker 11: President Trump is absolutely right.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 11: This is a seventeen ninety eight law. We're using gobs
Speaker 11: of the First Amendment right now on your air.
Speaker 5: That's an even older law. And so the Alien Enemies Act.
Speaker 11: What the President did is he very shrewdly intertwined TDA
Speaker 11: with the Venezuela government and as calling it a hybrid
Speaker 11: criminal state because Maduro and TDA have joined together in
Speaker 11: law enforcement, in military. The Maduro government funds TDA to
Speaker 11: come to the United States to bring cocaine, to sow discord,
Speaker 11: to engage in violence. And he has enacted the Alien
Speaker 11: Enemies Act, declared TDA a foreign terrorist organization, and ordered
Speaker 11: their removal.
Speaker 5: That's what the AEA was meant to do.
Speaker 2: I think it's a really important explanation because there's been
Speaker 2: a lot of questions about well we know the TDA
Speaker 2: gang is very dangerous, that they are like a drug cartel,
Speaker 2: but why are they being called foreign combatants?
Speaker 3: And so it's this tie.
Speaker 2: Between the Maduro govern in Venezuela that's actually funding the
Speaker 2: gang and giving them the ability and the power to
Speaker 2: travel to the US to sell cocin and their other
Speaker 2: drugs that allows the President to accurately designate them as
Speaker 2: foreign combatants and members of a foreign terrorist organization. So congratulations,
Speaker 2: if you live in Denver, not only are you the
Speaker 2: home of one of the most violent foreign gangs, you're
Speaker 2: also home to a foreign terrorist organization that's now designated
Speaker 2: as foreign combatants. Again, this was invited by those who
Speaker 2: run Denver in Colorado, layering the sanctuary city policies of
Speaker 2: Denver on top of the sanctuary state policies that Colorado
Speaker 2: passed in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Apparently we're up for another sanctuary state to designation by
Speaker 2: the legislature. I'm kind of thinking that with the current
Speaker 2: state of things, they're probably not going to be bold
Speaker 2: enough to pass yet another sanctuary state policy. Because Governor
Speaker 2: Jaredpoulis may or Mike Johnson are trying to deny that
Speaker 2: status even exists in Colorado, and both of them, in
Speaker 2: addition to Congressman Jason Crowe, have actually said that violent
Speaker 2: and criminals who are here illegally should be deported. This
Speaker 2: is a huge departure from what they have normally claimed
Speaker 2: and what they've normally.
Speaker 3: Advocated for it.
Speaker 2: And I go so far as to say, if Governor
Speaker 2: Polis actually had that position, why in the world did
Speaker 2: he sign those three sanctuary state policies in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and twenty twenty three. Maybe just maybe
Speaker 2: it has to do with who's in charge at the
Speaker 2: federal level and who he wants to look like he's
Speaker 2: complying with. I think it's probably more symptom of that
Speaker 2: than a core principle saying, let's actually keep Colorado safe
Speaker 2: by not designating our state sanctuary state policies, which then
Speaker 2: leads to the most dangerous, one of the most dangerous
Speaker 2: foreign international gangs making Denver their home base. This is
Speaker 2: certainly not good for anyone here in Colorado. If you
Speaker 2: missed our segment earlier with Representative Jarvis Caldwell, go back
Speaker 2: and listen to it. You need to get the inside
Speaker 2: scoop on what's happening in the House Judiciary Committee. They
Speaker 2: are the ones who hear criminal justice public safety related bills,
Speaker 2: both proposed by Republicans are crack down on crime and
Speaker 2: propose by Democrats that would open up the doors to
Speaker 2: allow more crime in Colorado. He sits on that committee
Speaker 2: with the majority of Democrats on the committee.
Speaker 3: He hears about all these bills.
Speaker 2: He sees das and survivors of shootings come in and
Speaker 2: testify about the bills, and he sees the Democrats largely
Speaker 2: not care what those people have to say. A few
Speaker 2: bad effects from PR bonds in Colorado. If you've heard
Speaker 2: about the shooting of the Pueblo police officers that was
Speaker 2: committed by someone out on bond who is a gang
Speaker 2: member MS thirteen gang member in that case after he'd
Speaker 2: committed multiple felonies including attempt at first degree murder, and
Speaker 2: the stabbing in Denver recently that was committed by someone
Speaker 2: who's out on a PR bond. So these issues have
Speaker 2: real time consequences that we see in Colorado. If you
Speaker 2: have thoughts, you can call in over the break eight
Speaker 2: five five four zero five eight two five five.
Speaker 3: I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're in the Dan Kapla Show
Speaker 3: and now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast Sapple
Speaker 3: the Show.
Speaker 2: I'm Christy Burton Brown, Filly in for Dan today. Thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us. We've covered a lot of issues like
Speaker 2: crime in Colorado, the House Judiciary Committee of people escaping
Speaker 2: from ice detention facilities and whose fault that actually is.
Speaker 2: In addition to advice for parents on what you should
Speaker 2: get involved in in your local school district to make
Speaker 2: sure your children are being protected. Let's cover yet another
Speaker 2: two issues in this very last segment. I think both
Speaker 2: of them are pretty important breaking news today and yesterday.
Speaker 2: One of them was that Trump's executive order closing the
Speaker 2: Department of Education. There is a little bit of confusion
Speaker 2: over what exactly this does. First of all, I think
Speaker 2: it's great news. We need to have less bureaucracy, not more,
Speaker 2: cut down on the layers.
Speaker 3: And it's very clear that President.
Speaker 2: Trump has not threatened the federal funding of education that
Speaker 2: comes down to the states. So for everyone including the
Speaker 2: CEA or Teachers' union in Colorado freaking out about that,
Speaker 2: they actually don't know what they're talking about and are
Speaker 2: purposely ignoring the statements that President Trump has made saying
Speaker 2: that this isn't going to affect change federal funding of education,
Speaker 2: especially like the pelgrant and other big grants that do
Speaker 2: come down from the federal level to the states. All
Speaker 2: this does is change how it comes down, eliminates a
Speaker 2: lot of the layers. And if you're aware of how
Speaker 2: bureaucracy at administration work, you know that the more layers
Speaker 2: there are, the less money that actually makes its way
Speaker 2: down to the states, to the local levels and to
Speaker 2: the classrooms. We're here in Colorado, our teachers need to
Speaker 2: be paid more. One of the biggest causes of why
Speaker 2: they're not paid more is because administrative spending in Colorado
Speaker 2: education is so high. Unlike the states around us, we
Speaker 2: only spend fifty five percent of our education funding into
Speaker 2: the classrooms and it should be at least at a
Speaker 2: two thirds level to ensure that our teachers get paid enough.
Speaker 2: We have lower students to teacher ratios and make a
Speaker 2: lot of the crucial changes in education that needs to
Speaker 2: be made.
Speaker 3: But that's an important piece of news.
Speaker 2: With the Department of Education Trump's executive order, he's not
Speaker 2: taking away the funding. He's cutting bureaucracy, So make sure
Speaker 2: you tell everyone that who's all worried about the Department
Speaker 2: of Education being taken out.
Speaker 3: Here's the other piece.
Speaker 2: Though Trump's executive order can to do that by itself,
Speaker 2: this actually would require an Act of Congress to actually
Speaker 2: eliminate the Department of Education. What he did in his
Speaker 2: executive order was order the Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon,
Speaker 2: to work towards that end, work towards the closure of
Speaker 2: the Federal Department of Education. So this isn't an instant
Speaker 2: thing that's happening right now because the executive Executive branch
Speaker 2: doesn't actually have the power to solely unilaterally do that alone.
Speaker 2: They absolutely can work towards it, and then Congress would
Speaker 2: have to pass something like that. At the very least,
Speaker 2: what this will pave the way for is a lessening
Speaker 2: of the bureaucracy and administrative layers, because since it is
Speaker 2: a federal agency, Trump and his administration can do a
Speaker 2: lot to eliminate positions within the Department of Education. They
Speaker 2: can do a lot to cut down those layers, whether
Speaker 2: or not Congress eventually decides to eliminate the agents or
Speaker 2: the Department altogether. Here's a point that Senator Jim Banks
Speaker 2: tweeted out that I think is pretty interesting. He says,
Speaker 2: the average bureaucrat the Department of Education makes over twice
Speaker 2: as much money as teachers in Indiana. I'm sure if
Speaker 2: you looked at the amount the teachers making Colorado, the
Speaker 2: difference would probably be even greater because teachers aren't well
Speaker 2: paid here in Colorado. So that's what we're eliminating. When
Speaker 2: we eliminate the Department of Education. We're eliminating bureaucracy. We're
Speaker 2: eliminating the layers that eat up the money that should
Speaker 2: be coming down to classrooms in Colorado and teacher salaries.
Speaker 2: So this is good news, very good news if you
Speaker 2: believe that classrooms and teachers should be paid and get
Speaker 2: the money that they actually should get instead of a
Speaker 2: bunch of bureaucrats in DC getting all the money.
Speaker 3: So I think that's great news.
Speaker 2: Another thing I wanted to make sure we hit before
Speaker 2: our show is over is this report from in Videos
Speaker 2: CEO announcing a really great news for manufacturing in the
Speaker 2: United States and taking it away from China.
Speaker 12: Video CEO Jensen Kang says this company is set to
Speaker 12: spend hundreds of billions of dollars on chips and other
Speaker 12: electronics manufactured in America over the next four years. That's
Speaker 12: according to an interview and gave to the Financial Times,
Speaker 12: and it he also said in video, is now able
Speaker 12: to produce its most advanced systems in the US partnering
Speaker 12: with Taiwan Semiconductor in fox Con.
Speaker 2: I was actually reading about this today and that's one
Speaker 2: of the most interesting pieces of this in news is
Speaker 2: that Taiwan is actually choosing to invest in American manufacturing.
Speaker 2: We have a good relationship with Taiwan and they are
Speaker 2: good at manufacturing and producing a lot of these chips.
Speaker 2: But we need to balance out the supply chain and
Speaker 2: bring a lot of manufacturing back to the US get
Speaker 2: it away from China, because not only is China controlling
Speaker 2: too much chip production and manufacturing as a whole, or
Speaker 2: way to rely on them for manufacturing that affects a
Speaker 2: lot of businesses industries here in the United States. They
Speaker 2: also have way too much control over our pharmaceuticals. So
Speaker 2: you could get into that for a very long time.
Speaker 2: But one of the most interesting pieces for those who
Speaker 2: try to deny that China has so much of the
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical supply. They missed the fact that China is producing
Speaker 2: a lot of the core ingredients that are then sent
Speaker 2: to India. We also buy a lot of our farma
Speaker 2: suticles from India. But where is India getting the components
Speaker 2: and the pieces the core medicines that are creating these pharmaceuticals,
Speaker 2: These drugs that Americans take, They are getting them from China.
Speaker 2: So if you trace the map of all the supply
Speaker 2: chains across the US, whether it's in chip manufacturing, whether
Speaker 2: it's in pharmaceutical manufacturing, you find that China has way
Speaker 2: too big a piece.
Speaker 3: Of the puzzle.
Speaker 2: This is really destroying America's ability, piece by piece to
Speaker 2: be independent. China is trying to, of course take over
Speaker 2: as a world power. That is not news or a
Speaker 2: surprise to anyone. What's interesting, though, if you trace the
Speaker 2: little pieces, and if you look at President Trump putting
Speaker 2: tariffs on China and elsewhere around the world, you see,
Speaker 2: if you really go behind the scenes and pull back
Speaker 2: the curtain, that part of his goal is actually to
Speaker 2: bring manufacturing back to the United States, to make it
Speaker 2: more profitable and more possible to do that, and also
Speaker 2: to open up availability for companies like Nvidia that want
Speaker 2: to bring manufacturing back to the United States, that are
Speaker 2: willing to put their money where their mouth is, so
Speaker 2: to speak, and actually try to get it done. And
Speaker 2: when you see huge companies like this being the first
Speaker 2: ones to come in and say, okay, fine, we are
Speaker 2: going to bring manufacturing back to the United States and
Speaker 2: we're going to back it with hundreds of billions of
Speaker 2: dollars of investment, you are going to see the ball
Speaker 2: continue to roll down the hill, a sort of a
Speaker 2: snowball effect, and more companies start to make the same decision. Thankfully,
Speaker 2: we see Taiwan being a good partner here choosing to
Speaker 2: invest in American manufacturing, then you know it's good for
Speaker 2: them as well. If China starts to lose power in
Speaker 2: the manufacturing and industry across the world. But if you
Speaker 2: want something fun to do this weekend, I know it's
Speaker 2: only Thursday right now, go trace those supply chain maps
Speaker 2: for pharmaceuticals, for chip manufacturing and see how many pieces.
Speaker 3: China actually has their hand in. But we need to take.
Speaker 2: Back as the United States of America. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 2: You've been on the Dan Kapla Show. Thanks for joining us,
Speaker 2: and enjoy your free day weekend if you have one.
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening.