WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.839 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:18.280 You're back on the Dan Caplis Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown. 7 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:20.399 Thanks for tuning in today. I've been talking about quite 8 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:24.440 a few issues with Denver's constant sanctuary city actions that 9 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:28.000 in dangerous citizens, things parents should watch out for in 10 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:30.640 their school districts, and good advice from a school board 11 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:32.399 member up in Thompson Valley. 12 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:33.719 You definitely need to listen to that. 13 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:36.640 But we're also shifting to focus to crime here in 14 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:39.000 the state of Colorado and to talk about some of 15 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:42.759 the crucial crime bills that are not getting through the 16 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:46.960 legislature on the good side, but are possibly passing through 17 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.600 the legislature on the pro criminal side. I'm bringing in 18 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:53.079 State Representative Jarvis Caldwell, one of the most impressive new 19 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:55.119 legislators in Colorado this year. 20 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:56.320 Thank you for joining us. 21 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:59.880 Representative Caldwell, Hey, Christy, thanks so much for having me. 22 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.240 Absolutely I think everyone should follow you on Twitter. If 23 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.280 they want to know what's really going on with criminal 24 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:08.920 justice and public safety issues in Colorado. Think your account 25 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.000 is rep called well, that's c ald W E. 26 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:12.519 L L. 27 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:15.079 Everyone should go follow him so that you get the 28 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:18.799 updates in real time. I think you were updating everyone 29 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:20.879 in the middle of the night last night. I think 30 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:22.760 was there hearing that win until I don't know, one 31 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:24.359 thirty two am. 32 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:25.760 That's right. 33 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes you can kind of 34 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:31.040 feel powerless when you're in the minority, and so I've 35 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:32.959 kind of made it my mission to bring to light 36 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.400 the craziness that's happening in the House Judiciary Committee this year. 37 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:39.519 I think that's so important. And you serve on that committee, correct, 38 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.120 That's correct. Okay, So you see all the all the 39 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:46.439 bills come through, both on the Republican side Democrat side, 40 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:47.920 and I think I think the one that got a 41 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:50.840 lot of attention yesterday and probably should get more so 42 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.799 that it gets killed called the bad shot and bill. 43 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:55.239 Am I am? I referring to the right one? 44 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:57.840 I love. I mean, that's what I've nicknamed it. 45 00:01:58.079 --> 00:01:59.079 Okay, other people have. 46 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:04.000 Yeah, it's house built twelve oh six. It's called Extreme 47 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:09.400 Indifferences Offenses. Not causing death, and so just to kind 48 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:11.599 of give you an anecdote, because there's a lot of 49 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:15.479 nuance and complexities. But the idea here is that if 50 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.639 you do a drive by shooting and you're shooting at 51 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:21.479 a crowd of people but you don't hit anyone, right now, 52 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.879 that's a Class two felony and it's got pretty stiff punishments. 53 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:27.199 It's up to I think forty eight years in prison. 54 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:32.639 However, if this bill passes, then if you don't hit anybody, 55 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:36.680 you could get a Class five felony, which is probation eligible. 56 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.520 And so people have to ask themselves, do we think 57 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:43.599 those involved in drive by shootings should get probation. 58 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:45.360 Just because they don't hit anybody? 59 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:46.120 Right? 60 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:46.599 No? 61 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:48.080 I think that's absolutely crazy. 62 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:51.039 I think most people would agree clearly from understanding the 63 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.719 bill when I was looking it up. This is first 64 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:57.800 degree attempted murder, so premeditated, intentional obviously, that's what drive 65 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:00.120 by shootings are, or absolut shootings like the club Q 66 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:01.840 shooting in Colorado. 67 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:03.840 Anyone who you shot at but. 68 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:08.360 Didn't kill them, that is it would classify as a 69 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:09.960 first degree attempted murder. 70 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.439 But in my understanding, the Democrats sponsoring this bill. 71 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.680 We're trying to completely reclassify it as a different kind 72 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.960 of crime and thus lower the penalties. 73 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:19.080 Yeah, that's right. 74 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:23.120 And we actually had a Club Q survivor, the bartender 75 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.840 from that night, who I think is actually a part owner. 76 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.039 He was in there and he testified because the Club 77 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:33.000 Q shooter was actually charged by DA Michael Allen down 78 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:39.719 here in Opaso County with this extreme indifference attempted murder and. 79 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:42.719 So this was actually a this gets used a lot. 80 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:46.319 We had DA Walsh from Denver and testify that last 81 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:48.319 year someone shot I think it was one hundred and 82 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.000 four shots into a house with twelve people. 83 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.759 Wow, And had this bill. 84 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.560 Been in place, that person could have been procation eligible 85 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:59.759 because they didn't hit anybody. They didn't, Thank god, they 86 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:03.080 didn't hit any of those twelve people in that house, 87 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:05.840 you know. And I asked the question and committee to 88 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:08.400 the bill sponsors the very first question of the night, 89 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:12.680 which was why this and why now? And the clips 90 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.079 well they just they really kind of parsed out this. Well, 91 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.240 this is an area of wall that we think could 92 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:20.000 be improved. 93 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.759 But the thing is that the DA's. 94 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.240 Council, which is made up of all twenty three das 95 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:28.120 from across the state. They literally represent every single person 96 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:29.319 in the state of Colorado. 97 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:31.319 They came out in opposition of this. 98 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:35.600 Now they only take positions if they're unanimous, so they 99 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:37.639 unanimously opposed this bill. 100 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:39.600 And that's made up of Republican and. 101 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:43.399 Democrat das and still, you know, members on Judiciary. I 102 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.800 think it's very ideological, and I think they just. 103 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.079 They believe they know better. 104 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:52.360 We've got some public defenders on judiciary and they almost 105 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:54.720 always side with the criminals. 106 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:55.439 Unfortunately. 107 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.800 That's it's insane, honestach saying that word, but I can't 108 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:00.879 can't think of a better one, because I think if 109 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.600 you went out and surveyed members of the public, like 110 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:05.439 they want to be kept safe from these kinds of people. 111 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:07.160 These are not the kind of people you want walking 112 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:10.160 and driving down your streets and going into restaurants and 113 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:13.399 being outside of your house and establish establishments that people 114 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.000 want to feel safe in. These are not the kind 115 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:17.959 of people who should be free in society because they 116 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.279 clearly plan to kill people and just because they're bad 117 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.040 at doing it again, thank god they are, But doesn't 118 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:26.240 mean that they shouldn't be put away from society. And 119 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.120 I think this is pretty obvious if you ask a 120 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:30.720 random person on the street, and obviously to the da 121 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:32.720 is to your point, the ones who see these people 122 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:34.519 in real life and have to collect the evidence and 123 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:37.439 prosecute them, they see how dangerous this is. 124 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:39.680 Yeah, it's crazy. 125 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:43.040 Absolutely, And I just want to add something else on 126 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.639 your listener's radars, which is almost every single, if not 127 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.519 every single Democrat on how juditionary believe that cash bond 128 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:54.079 is unconstitutional And now so if you think about that, 129 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:57.040 you could other than first degree murder, I mean you 130 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.800 could rob someone, you can shoot them, stab them, carjack 131 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:03.439 on and the Democrats on how studentsary believe that if 132 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.800 you got arrested for one of those crimes shooting someone, 133 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:08.199 as long as it wasn't first degree murder, you should 134 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.759 be immediately released until your trial day. And so we 135 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.279 could literally have people walking around the streets if they 136 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:16.680 get rid of cash bond. 137 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.199 And I think that's something they all want to do. 138 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:18.759 Well. 139 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.279 I think they maybe just think they can't get it 140 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:22.879 through the main house just yet. 141 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:24.000 It's not quite yet. 142 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:27.240 And we're talking to Representative Jarvis Caldwell from Caldor Springs 143 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:29.639 here on the Dan Kapla Show, And just to clarify 144 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.519 for anyone who isn't super up on bond and cash bond, 145 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.160 basically what you're saying is they would want to eliminate 146 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.600 all bonds and move to like PR bonds where people 147 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:40.319 just promise to show back up in court and not 148 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:41.160 pay anything. 149 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:42.240 Right, Is that what you're. 150 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.240 Saying exactly right? Yeah? 151 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:48.079 They again, they believe it's some constitutional and they make 152 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.480 the argument, you know, innocent until proven guilty, and so 153 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:54.279 if you get I mean if you're on video or 154 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.199 shooting someone and you get arrested for it, they believe 155 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.160 you should be able to just walk right out of 156 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:01.720 jail with no bond until your trial day. And we 157 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:03.680 all know the court systems backed up, so it may 158 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.560 be a year or longer until you have a trial day. 159 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.360 But that's what they believe, and they said it. You know, 160 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:11.519 you and I we talked about on this show before 161 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.519 about my no PR bonds for repe violent. 162 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.720 Of finds, which they killed. 163 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.439 In committee a couple of weeks ago, but they made 164 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:25.839 it very explicit, including the chairman Javier Maybury. He injected 165 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.199 his opinion on the bond issue on that and said 166 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:29.680 that he believes it's unconstitutional. 167 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:31.040 So I mean, when you have. 168 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.959 The chairman of a committee saying that. 169 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.199 It's like, how in the world are all of you 170 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.800 guys on House Judiciary. It's literally the furthest, most radical 171 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.079 left people on this House Judiciary Committee. Which is why 172 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.399 I keep repeating the line that if you want to 173 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.199 know why there's a crime problem in Colorado, gets come 174 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.879 down to the capital, go sit in on House Judiciary 175 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:54.000 Committee and he'll figure it out real quick. 176 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.000 Well, and you make an excellent point that these people 177 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.279 were in tech. This is your apoint but I'll make 178 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.079 it my point. People were intentionally put on this committee. 179 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.360 Like Democrat leadership gets to choose who serves on a committee, 180 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.319 and for the Judiciary committee that is supposed to hear 181 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.879 the public safety bills in Colorado, they put the most extreme, 182 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:16.040 far left, pro criminal, anti victim, anti safety Democrats on 183 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.199 this committee. So they're advancing terrible bills and then stopping 184 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.519 and blocking great bills like the ones that you've run 185 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:24.839 that would actually move Colorado from the third most dangerous 186 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:27.079 state in the nation to at least a little bit 187 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:28.839 more safety. 188 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:29.839 Yeah, pretty incredible. 189 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.480 It's insane, and it's the most fashetting thing ever. You know, 190 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:35.519 I don't know if you all covered this on the show, 191 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:37.879 but Rep. Brandy Bradley brought a bill. 192 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.720 I think it was last week, and it. 193 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:46.639 Was to prevent or prohibit probation for child sex assault 194 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:51.720 suspects because in Colorado around seventy percent of people who 195 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:53.120 commit child. 196 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.879 Sex assault get probation. And we don't think that's we. 197 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.399 Don't think that's right, that's not common sense. 198 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:02.919 She ran bill. Yeah, she ran a bill to prohibit that, 199 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.360 and the Democrats shot it down and the DA supported that. 200 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.279 The show supported the bill. The HTIs of police, yeah, 201 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:14.960 among others, victim advocacy groups and wow, yeah, and they 202 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:15.600 shut it down. 203 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.120 No, that's it's insane. And thank you for bringing it 204 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:19.799 to light. I have to take a break on the 205 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.759 Dan Kapla show. The Representative Jarvis called, well, definitely want 206 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:24.679 to have you back to give us yet another update 207 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:27.080 of all you hear on the Judiciary Committee. 208 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:28.320 So thank you for joining. 209 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.240 Us, Yes man, thanks so much for having me. 210 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:32.159 All right, I'm Christy Burton Brown are taking a break 211 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:33.720 here on the Dan Capela Show. You can call in 212 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:35.840 eight by five four zero five eight two five five 213 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:50.080 Representative Jarvis called Well who sits on the Judiciary Committee 214 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.279 among a lot of Democrats who are on the very 215 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.840 far left. He said, a number of them are are 216 00:09:55.879 --> 00:10:00.960 either currently or former public defenders. And Hub Mobre, who's 217 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.759 the chair of the committee. Look him up if you haven't, 218 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:06.399 if you want to see who the Democrats at the 219 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:09.519 Capitol are choosing to be the head of the committee 220 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:14.159 that hears all public safety bills. He's literally a socialist Democrat, 221 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:15.120 not just a Democrat. 222 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:16.639 He would be the first to admit that if you 223 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:17.080 look at. 224 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.639 His Twitter and his news online, and he is constantly 225 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:25.679 pro criminal, will not support any law to increase criminal penalties, 226 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.159 no matter the type of criminal. 227 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:29.200 And it's just super disturbing that those are. 228 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:31.080 The members of the Judiciary Committee who are hearing these 229 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.679 kind of bills, and the committees, if you're not familiar 230 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:38.480 with how the legislature works through which all proposed bills 231 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:40.440 have to go in order to make it on the 232 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:43.240 House floor, of the Senate floor, members of a committee 233 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:45.480 can absolute who are in the majority, can absolutely shut 234 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.399 down an a good bill, kill a bad bill. That's 235 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.559 what they're supposed to do. But in the case of 236 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.720 the House Judiciary Committee. Here in Colorado, they are constantly 237 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.879 killing bills that would crack down on crime and promoting 238 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:00.720 bills that would support help or aid Act criminals. 239 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:01.720 So again, no wonder. 240 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:03.799 Colorado is the third most dangerous state in the nation, 241 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:06.639 according to US News and World Report. 242 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:08.120 I want to actually play you. 243 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.000 This is gonna be a fairly long clip, but I 244 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:11.320 think it's important to play. 245 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:12.799 This has been in the news recently. 246 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.000 Pretty much every major news station has covered the Pueblo 247 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.519 Police chief speaking about three officers who were shot by 248 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:23.919 a known MS thirteen gang member who is out on 249 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.919 a bond after being charged with multiple felonies and after 250 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.960 having many felonies pled down to misdemeanor. Speaks this is 251 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.879 a known, super dangerous criminal who is let back out 252 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:38.440 on the street and then had to shootout that left 253 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:40.840 three of his officers injured. I'm going to play you 254 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.279 the clip, but the police chief in Pueblo, Chris Noler, 255 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.559 specifically says, quote, the blood of my officers lays at 256 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.240 the steps of our capital, blaming what goes on at 257 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.120 the Capitol building, on the Judiciary Committee, on the fact 258 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:57.159 that his officers are endangered and we're all shot. All 259 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.919 are recovering currently in the hospital, but it is not 260 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.639 to the end of the situation. I hope they continue 261 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:04.360 to recover, but we don't know yet what the end 262 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:09.639 result will be. Here is the report from Cardio, most of. 263 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.679 Which led to misdemeanors. At the time of the shooting 264 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:15.399 last night, he was out on bond on not one, 265 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:19.240 but three felony cases and as I stated, he was 266 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.919 wanted on attempted murder charges related to a shooting at 267 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.200 a department conflex at Publow south Side. The blood of 268 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.399 my officers lays at the steps of our capital. 269 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.480 Strong worts today from Publo's chief of police after three 270 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:33.120 of his officers were shot. 271 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:34.080 In the line of duty tonight. 272 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:37.679 He's blaming soft on crime policies for putting the entire 273 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:39.080 community in danger. 274 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.960 Good evening, I'm Heather SKULLD and I'm Bart Bedchel. Thanks 275 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.080 for joining us, and we begin with that developing news. 276 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:46.840 Three Prebla police officers are in the hospital and a 277 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:49.440 man is dead after a shootout in the Best in 278 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:50.159 our neighborhood. 279 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:51.000 We now know that. 280 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.200 Last night police were attempting to arrest a suspected gang 281 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:57.039 member with a warrant for attempted murder when that man 282 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:00.519 opened fire. Cardio thirteens Mackenzie Stafford joins US live from 283 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.399 Northern Avenue where it all started. 284 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:03.000 McKenzie. 285 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:09.639 Last night, officers could be seen running from this all 286 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.120 to down Northern Avenue for blocks. Here you can see 287 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.720 there's even some of this crime scene tape here still 288 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:19.399 left over from the night before in the ongoing investigation today. 289 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:23.240 That entire time officers were running, they were exchanging gunfire 290 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:27.240 with the suspect, Billy Soto. Police say that Soto fired 291 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.240 nearly eighty rounds at law enforcement. 292 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:32.240 I'm going to stop the report right there because i 293 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.879 want to point something out that's very important revealed in 294 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.799 this report and by the Pueblo Police chief. This guy 295 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.600 who did a shootout with police officers, fired eighty shots 296 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:46.519 and wounded three of them, was wanted on attempted murder charges. Now, 297 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.000 in the last segment, we talked to Representative Jarvis Caldwell 298 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.799 about a bill that's being proposed in the state capitol 299 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.279 to take away the charge of first degree attempted murder 300 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.159 in Colorado as a crime when there's extreme indifference for 301 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:03.399 human life, very bad thing to completely remove that crime 302 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:06.960 and instead replace it with a type of assault that 303 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:11.840 could be probation eligible and only give someone one to 304 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.720 four years in jail, depending on whether not someone was 305 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:18.000 actually injured in the first degree murder attempt or not. 306 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.840 So here you have actual scenarios in Colorado of how 307 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.399 dangerous these type of criminals are. The type of criminals 308 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:27.039 who are committing first degree attempted murder. 309 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:28.000 You see what they do. 310 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.360 They're willing to do shootouts with police officers and try 311 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:35.200 to kill them after they already committed other attempted first 312 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:38.120 degree murder. And what are the Democrats in the legislature, 313 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.519 the people who are in charge of passing laws in 314 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:43.879 Colorado want to do. Not crack down on crime, not 315 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:46.960 stop these kind of criminals from getting out on bond 316 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:50.960 and endangering law enforcement officers and our communities. No, Instead, 317 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:53.639 their brilliant idea is to lessen the charges that can 318 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:57.679 be brought against these people. As Representative Caldwell pointed out 319 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:02.279 in the last segment, the DA's counts in Colorado opposed 320 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.320 this bill, and the DA's Council only opposes or reports 321 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:08.480 legislation when the vote is unanimous. If you look across 322 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.720 the state, we have a whole lot of Democrat district attorneys. 323 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.320 We have a whole lot of Republican district attorneys. It's 324 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:17.039 not overly common that they unanimously agreed to support or 325 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:20.840 oppose something. But for very obvious reasons, they opposed this bill, 326 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:23.759 and testimony continued on it until about two a m. 327 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:24.559 Yesterday. 328 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.240 Instead of voting it down after all of this testimony 329 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:30.159 and all these facts and all these evidence about how 330 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.600 dangerous this would be for Colorado, the House Judiciary Committee 331 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.080 laid it over for further testimony or further consideration. 332 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:38.519 So basically they didn't kill it. 333 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:40.399 They also didn't vote in favor of it yet, so 334 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.399 perhaps they will kill it, although I'm not holding my 335 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.879 breath because they constantly put these kind of bills through 336 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:47.159 to the House floor to try to come down on 337 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.120 the side of criminals instead of the side of law 338 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.320 enforcement and victims. The other thing I will point out 339 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.240 about this bill, and it's also relevant to the Pueblo 340 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:57.639 Police Chief story, is that voters last year passed a 341 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.799 truth in sentencing measure. It was the most popular citizen 342 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.919 initiated ballot measure on the entire ballot in twenty twenty four. 343 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.879 Here in Colorado sponsored by the organization I Work for 344 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:12.679 Advanced Colorado, and the attempted first degree murder was included 345 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:15.120 in the Truth and Sentencing bill, so voters, majority of 346 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.200 voters across Colorado said, we believe not only should that 347 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.399 remain a crime in Colorado, but it should be subject 348 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.039 to truth and sentencing, meaning people who are convicted of 349 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.000 first degree attempted murders should serve at least eighty five 350 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.519 percent of their sentence before they are eligible for parole. 351 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:31.960 And now, after seeing voters, will voters intent again the 352 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:34.840 most popular ballot measure in all of Colorado last year, 353 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:38.399 what do the people controlling the legislature try to do. 354 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:40.120 Let's just pull. 355 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:43.039 Out one of those crimes out of truth and sentencing, 356 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.240 make it a new crime that we want to put 357 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.440 under the under assault so that it's no longer. 358 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:49.759 Subject to truth and sentencing. 359 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:52.120 And that is how they try to evade the will 360 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.559 of voters and try to substitute their own judgment that 361 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.799 is on the side of criminals for what voters clearly 362 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.000 told them they wanted. We want to classify these people 363 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.240 as violent enough criminals to serve at least eighty five 364 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:05.359 percent of their sentence before they're parole eligible. 365 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:07.160 Now there's a huge. 366 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.759 Outcry against this bill at the Capitol, even you know, 367 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:14.920 survivors of mass shootings who've come in and testified against it. 368 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.559 Maybe maybe maybe it's not going to make it through. 369 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.119 Since they did lay it over. That's always a very 370 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:25.200 small bright spot that indicates they're at least possibly reconsidering it. 371 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:27.680 Or the other option is that they just don't want 372 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:29.519 to vote on it right now when all the attention 373 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:31.319 and light is on it. So I think everyone should 374 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:33.559 be contacting the members of the House Judiciary Committee, the 375 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.559 Democrats of course specifically, and tell them to make sure 376 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:39.039 they do not pass this bill and put it through. 377 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:42.680 Extremely dangerous, as illustrated by this recent situation in Pueblo 378 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:44.759 where the Publo police chief says the blood of his 379 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.119 officers is laized on the steps of the Capitol, a 380 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.799 very serious and true accusation. 381 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.000 I'm Christie Britton Brown. You're on the Dan Kaplo Show. 382 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.559 When we come back, we're going to be talking to 383 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:58.559 Auror City Councilwoman Danielle Duriski about the two escapees from 384 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:01.279 the Ice detention facility and her view of what the 385 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.079 real facts are here on the dan. 386 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:04.759 CAPLA show. 387 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:17.960 The en You can call in any time you want 388 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.000 four zero eight two five five. One of the big 389 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:25.319 pieces of news in Colorado over the last twenty four 390 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:29.720 hours has been the fact that a couple inmates escaped 391 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.279 from the Ice detention facility in Aurora. 392 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.119 Now, I think Nine News, well, I don't know. 393 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:36.519 If they were the first to break it or if 394 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.960 they were just the first one's I saw on Instagram. 395 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:40.920 But nonetheless, one. 396 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:42.559 Thing that one of the Nine News reporters saw, and 397 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:46.240 then other outlets continue to report, was that local law 398 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:52.240 enforcement decline to help ICE find these detainees who escaped. Now, 399 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.480 from the reports that I've seen, I think some power 400 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:58.480 went out at the Ice detention facility, a door opened up, 401 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:01.240