1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpeakclendarshow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,439 your support. A bit of breaking news here. Conservatives do 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,200 not like NPR. I feel like I need to Yeah, 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,320 I feel like I need to convey that because I'm 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,240 not sure if like half the country realizes this or not. 13 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:47,280 But this has been it's actually been a long held 14 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:52,960 belief or an opinion by many, many many people on 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:59,320 the right that NPR is biased. I grew up listening 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,439 to NPR. I worked for the NPR affiliate. Now I 17 00:01:02,479 --> 00:01:07,319 was just mailing people their coffee mugs, okay, and then 18 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:09,400 I left that gig. It was I started as an 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,560 internship actually in my last year of college. And then 20 00:01:13,599 --> 00:01:17,560 when I graduated college, uh, they had as the position 21 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:20,920 was open, and so they hired me for that for 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,319 that position, which was membership assistant, So I did the 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,959 daily deposits, So I took all the money that would 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,000 people would mail in and updated their accounts and such, 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,640 and then I would walk the deposit over to the 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,480 bank every day, and you know, helped with the fund drive, 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,640 planning and booking of the volunteers that would answer the phones, 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,719 went and got the food to feed the volunteers. They 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,920 have an underwriting department they call it, which is sales. 30 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:58,200 And if memory serves correctly, it was the first year 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,480 when I was there, So this would have like ninety two, 32 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:05,640 ninety or ninety No, sorry, this would have been ninety 33 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,080 seven ninety two. That was high school ninety seven, and 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,520 I think that was the first year. It was roughly 35 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:17,639 right around that time when they had just divested out 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:23,560 of the University of North Carolina Charlotte. They separated from 37 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:27,120 the university and they had I think at that point 38 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:33,280 become primarily funded, like the biggest funding I thought at 39 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,800 the time it had either flipped or was about to 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,919 flip or something to mainly underwriting. So they had been 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,680 generating all of this money from sales. And like, I'm 42 00:02:44,719 --> 00:02:46,879 not trashing that at all. I mean, that's how like 43 00:02:47,039 --> 00:02:51,400 this radio station is funded by the clients that we 44 00:02:51,479 --> 00:02:56,080 have that advertise that's the model, and everybody that listens 45 00:02:56,199 --> 00:02:59,319 understands that that's the model. And so when you hear 46 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:01,960 the same sorts of things going on on a public 47 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:06,879 radio station or a public television station, those are underwriters, 48 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:09,199 those are advertisers, and they're paying, and there are rules 49 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,120 that they have to follow, like I think you can't 50 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:14,960 do like calls to action like come on down or 51 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,319 get yourself over here or whatever. I don't think you're 52 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,120 allowed to do like price point. You can't do pricing, 53 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:23,960 I think, and you can't do I think it's like 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,520 comparisons or something. So so there are rules that the 55 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,879 public stations are governed by that we are not as 56 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:37,800 a commercial broadcaster. But the funding component has long been 57 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:43,919 a sore spot with the commercial broadcasters, myself included. I'm 58 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:47,400 not a fan of taxpayer money going to fund what 59 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:53,400 is essentially my competition. I don't appreciate that. And there 60 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:58,439 is some argument, like somehow or another, that that this is, 61 00:03:58,759 --> 00:04:03,360 you know, a needed survey, and therefore it requires taxpayer funds, 62 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,400 And I would simply point to I don't know a 63 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:11,520 billion podcasts as proof that we do not need to 64 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:16,439 fund NPR or PBS, but they do such great work 65 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:19,240 and that work will be rewarded if it is in 66 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:24,399 fact great work. That's how that works. So you have 67 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:28,519 the digital platform that is available to everybody, there's very 68 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,519 little barrier to entry, especially for people with the skills 69 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:39,160 and expertise that have been working in these broadcast outlets. 70 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:44,800 But it has long been a bugaboo for the commercial 71 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,639 radio people that NPR gets the taxpayer money, because like, 72 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,959 that's coming from us, and then the NPR affiliates get 73 00:04:53,959 --> 00:04:58,800 to take our money and use it to compete with 74 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:04,839 us and to have nicer facilities and more up to 75 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:08,920 date equipment and pay their people more money. Like that's 76 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,720 that's a bit of a sore spot, as you might imagine. 77 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,480 And then you layer on the level of bias, and 78 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,680 which I mentioned this yesterday. I think I listened to 79 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,680 the NPR affiliate, which, by the way, heads up, they're 80 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,920 doing their fun drive right now. 81 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: So it's just. 82 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: Ugh And I don't even hear like local news reports 83 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,079 with like reporters. They have people over there, they have reporters, 84 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,759 but I don't hear a lot of their reports like 85 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,279 ever on the on the air. But whatever, it doesn't matter, 86 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,720 Like I'm not I'm not here to bash their model 87 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,160 or anything like that. And I wish them all the best. 88 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,639 I just wish them the best without my money, you know, 89 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:05,240 without my tax payer money. So yesterday up on Capitol Hill, 90 00:06:06,759 --> 00:06:10,439 there was a House Subcommittee on Government Efficiency that was 91 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:17,360 conducted into NPR and PBS regarding the continued funding of 92 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:23,199 those networks. The chair, Marjorie Taylor Green, said that the 93 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,920 purpose was to speak directly with the leadership of the 94 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,519 two primary outlets of public broadcasting. The primary witnesses were 95 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:36,240 the president and CEO of PBS, Paula Kerger, as well 96 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:42,839 as the CEO of NPR, Catherine Marr. And she is 97 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:49,879 right out of central casting for the modern awful, affluent, 98 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:55,920 white female liberal, right out of central casting, and as expected, 99 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:04,240 her record was a primary focus of the Republican lawmakers. 100 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,959 Now Democrats were up there, like, there's nothing wrong with 101 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 all this funding. It's a vital service. In Alaska, they 102 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,160 would not even have a radio station in Alaska but 103 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:16,199 for the public funding and all that. And that's what 104 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:19,360 they always cite the extreme examples. This is the Mott 105 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:22,839 and Bailey kind of a tactic. Right, they want to 106 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,839 kill big bird. So you take the easily defensible that's 107 00:07:27,879 --> 00:07:33,160 the bailey, the easily defensible position, right, that's the or sorry, 108 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,000 that's the mott. Is the easily defensible position, which is 109 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,800 Sesame Street, which I think is actually owned by HBO. Now, right, 110 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:43,480 didn't they get the rights to all of the Sesame 111 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Street and they moved all it was like a decade ago. 112 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:53,800 Everybody loves Sesame Street. You can't get rid of Sesame Street. 113 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:58,639 And then that's the easily defensible position. And then they 114 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,439 will advance the story time with the drag Queen. That's 115 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,959 the other programming that's not defensible but is also provided, 116 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,439 and that's the that's the bailey, that's the less defensible position. 117 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:20,160 So they advance the more radical agenda, and then when attacked, 118 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:23,800 they retreat to the mott, which is Sesame Street. And 119 00:08:23,879 --> 00:08:27,879 that's what Democrats did yesterday. And then of course was 120 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,639 the we're too busy to be looking at this. This 121 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,480 is all just a distraction. We should be focused on 122 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,600 other things. And all that, I assure you. This has 123 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,200 been something that Republicans and conservatives have been mad about 124 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,639 for a very long time, and I for one, join 125 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:46,080 all of the others on the right who are happy 126 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:50,080 that the Congress is now looking to actually defund with 127 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:56,120 taxpayer money these enterprises. Let them compete. Let them compete, 128 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,960 and if their product is superior without all of the 129 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,360 taxpayer funding to keep them afloat. 130 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:03,039 Speaker 2: Then. 131 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:09,399 Speaker 1: Good on them. So I got audio? Oh boy, do 132 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,399 I have audio. Here's a great idea. How about making 133 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,480 an escape to a really special and secluded getaway in 134 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:18,240 western North Carolina. 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Alrighty so, Brad Slager, writing at RedState 155 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:34,320 dot com uh pointed out how Representative Robert Garcia, Democrat 156 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,240 from California. He posited that Republicans were concerned that Elma 157 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:41,840 was part of the Communist Party and that Ernie and 158 00:10:41,879 --> 00:10:48,840 Bert were pushing a homosexual agenda. Yeah, it was a 159 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:52,480 pure indication that there would be no substantive arguments to 160 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:58,039 be made on behalf of NPR and PBS. And then 161 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,840 there was this from stevean Lynch. He is a Democratic 162 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:05,279 representative from Massachusetts. 163 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: Madam chair for over two decades of service. On this 164 00:11:10,279 --> 00:11:12,960 Oversight Committee. I've worked with members on both sides of 165 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,559 the aisle to investigate issues of critical importance to the 166 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,480 safety and security of the American people, including the conduct 167 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,279 of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, terrorist attacks against the 168 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:32,320 US Compound, Classified Annex, and Benghazi, and several major intelligence 169 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,679 and security breaches under democratic and Republican administrations. So I'm 170 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,960 sad to see that this once proud committee, the principal 171 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,679 investigative committee in the House of Representatives, has now stooped 172 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,600 to the lowest levels of partisanship and political theater to 173 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:50,639 hold a hearing to go after the likes of Elmo 174 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,879 and Cookie Monster, and after the ard Vark all for 175 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,120 the unforgivable sin of teaching the alphabet to low income 176 00:11:59,159 --> 00:12:04,519 families children and providing accessible local news and programming. This 177 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,039 hearing also comes at the direction of President Trump and 178 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,679 Elon Musk, who have repeatedly called for the defunding of 179 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,960 all public media and claimed that media organizations such as 180 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,679 PBS and NPR are and I quote a liberal disinformation 181 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:17,720 machine close. 182 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: Quote Yeah, well it has been NBR especially right, and 183 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Jim Jordan outlined all of this see the three Biggest 184 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,960 Stories NPR took decidedly pro Democrat, anti Republican left wing 185 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:37,120 positions on and again. I I tune in to the 186 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,799 NPR station here in Charlotte, and I listen to and 187 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,600 from work to hear what they're what they're covering. And 188 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:47,919 it is always the same slant. It's always coming from 189 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,799 the same direction, and it's everything is told through this 190 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,799 you know, left wing prism through this filter. And that's fine, 191 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,799 by the way, just don't use my taxpayer money. Don't 192 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:02,000 use my money to do it. 193 00:13:02,039 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: That's all. 194 00:13:02,799 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want, you can have whatever 195 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:07,360 bias you want to have, you just don't get my 196 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,440 money to do it. That's the whole point. And by 197 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,279 the way, Arthur, the Ardvark thing like that show ended 198 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,360 like in twenty twenty two. So Slayer goes on to 199 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:25,080 say that mar Catherine Marr deflected from responsibility for NPR 200 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,639 slanted content as all of these examples that they were raising, well, 201 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,320 that predated her arrival at NPR. S Ye, how that 202 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:35,759 was before I got there. All of these scandals, all 203 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:39,600 of these things, all these examples of bias that happened 204 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,320 before I got here. Last year, he called it the 205 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:50,879 not on my watch deflection. Here is Tim Burchett. He 206 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:55,399 is or Burchette. He is from Tennessee. He's a Republican. 207 00:13:55,639 --> 00:13:58,399 Speaker 5: And mar ma'am, you said in your opening statement that 208 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,200 you were going to be transformative, and I believe you've 209 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:05,519 failed to do that. Let me ask you, why did 210 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:09,120 you call President Trump a fascist and a deranged racist 211 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:10,639 sociopath in twenty. 212 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,159 Speaker 2: Twenty, Congressman, I appreciate the opportunity to address this. I 213 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,679 regret those tweets. I would not tweet them again today. 214 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,039 They represented a time where I was reflecting on something 215 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,120 that I believe that the President had said, rather than. 216 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: Who he is. 217 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,799 Speaker 2: I don't presume that anyone is a racist. 218 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 5: Would you don't believe anyone is a racist. 219 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: I don't start by presuming anyone as a racist, Sir okay, etc. 220 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:38,559 Speaker 5: As NPR PBS ever conducted an internal review to assess 221 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:43,679 whether conservative or right landing perspectives are fairly representative news 222 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:45,159 and programming. 223 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: Carson, What we look at is the distribution of people 224 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:50,600 who listen to our work. And we can tell you, 225 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:53,039 and I'm proud to tell you that for our digital 226 00:14:53,759 --> 00:14:57,519 our podcasts, and our website, the distribution of Americans who 227 00:14:57,559 --> 00:15:01,519 come to NPR does reflect political distribution of the nation. 228 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:05,559 In fact, the distribution on our websites. Thirty three percent 229 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,639 of folks who come are conservative versus twenty eight percent 230 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:11,360 who are liberal, and the rest identify as independent. So 231 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:14,799 the largest group is conservatives who come ten pars websites. 232 00:15:14,919 --> 00:15:17,799 Speaker 5: So you believe that most Americans think President Trump is 233 00:15:17,799 --> 00:15:21,799 a fascist and arranged racist sociopath. 234 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't believe that at also, Okay, ma'am. 235 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:32,559 Speaker 6: We obviously are constantly looking at the voices that we 236 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,159 bring forward. We take to heart our commitment to bringing 237 00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:39,679 forward perspectives from across the country. Our programming comes from 238 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:43,679 our local stations, and I mentioned in my opening comment 239 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,679 the series that we did out of Arkansas Southern Storytellers. 240 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,320 That's just one little example. Ten percent of our schedule 241 00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:54,759 is news. The rest of it is either children's programming 242 00:15:55,159 --> 00:15:58,360 or programming based on history to give us all a 243 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:01,840 collective expression. And we're constantly looking to making sure that 244 00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:06,759 we're bringing forward a diversity of viewpoints, in perspectives and 245 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:10,360 experiences that really do make up the fabric of this country. 246 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: Okay, MPR Senior editor Leonard's been mentioned before, but he 247 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:18,879 was quoted to saying an open minded spirit no longer 248 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,000 exists within APR, and now, predictably, we don't have an 249 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,000 audience that reflects America. Yet you stated that the audience 250 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,159 does reflect America. He was suspended without pay for five 251 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,879 days for saying this, and of course he eventually resigned 252 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,639 in April twenty four. You've also stated that federal funding 253 00:16:39,679 --> 00:16:42,840 is essential for MPR to operate, but also claim only 254 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:45,320 one percent of your funding comes from the federal government. 255 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: Which is it, mister Berlinard was suspended for the outside 256 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:51,360 work policy, not for what he said, sir. In terms 257 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:54,600 of federal funding, the federal funds go to support our 258 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,440 operation of the public radio satellite system, which enables all 259 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,480 of our local stations to be able to communicate information 260 00:17:02,799 --> 00:17:04,039 and broadcasts. 261 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,279 Speaker 5: Created earlier, ma'am. Funding is very fungible. It flows wherever 262 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:11,599 it needs to. I don't buy that argument. I wonder 263 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,480 if any of the members that committee would comment real quickly, 264 00:17:14,519 --> 00:17:19,039 would you agree that Real America's Voice Newsmax, Fox or 265 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,480 News Nation if they were to see federal funds, would 266 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:27,319 you all support that? Yes or no? Mister Elman, Yes 267 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:27,640 or no. 268 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,839 Speaker 4: I'd have to get back to you on that, ma'am. 269 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually don't have an opinion about them. 270 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:34,559 Speaker 1: No opinion. 271 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,759 Speaker 2: I don't have an opinion about that, sir. That would 272 00:17:36,759 --> 00:17:38,599 be Congress's decision, thank you, Terry lady. 273 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no opinion. Whether Fox should be taxpayer funded. I 274 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:45,119 don't have any theories on any of that. No, no, 275 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,000 not at all. Of course, of course it shouldn't. No, 276 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:56,359 these commercial broadcasters' news publications, they should not be taxpayers supported. 277 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,599 They should not be funded by the government. That's obvious. 278 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,119 But they can't say, oh, I have no opinion, that's 279 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:08,359 not true. They do have an opinion. Uri Berliner is 280 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,440 the former editor who came forward with the admissions of 281 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:16,880 NPR's bias. He wrote a column that appeared at the 282 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,039 Free Press, That's what she's saying. He got suspended for 283 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:23,400 for doing the for publishing it at an outside outlet, 284 00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:27,440 not on NPR, which do you think NPR would have 285 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,839 published that story. He had complained to management, he had 286 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,759 complained to people all over the place, and nobody did 287 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:36,200 anything about it. He was the one that identified something 288 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:43,000 like eighty seven Democrats and zero Republicans in the DC staff. 289 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:46,079 That's who makes up the DC staff. I think it was. 290 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:49,279 It's referenced in another clip. You'll hear it, and we'll 291 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:51,680 take a deep dive on the numbers. Is it one 292 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,160 percent or is it critical funding? All right, if you're 293 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,960 listening to this show, you know I try to keep 294 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,720 up with all sorts of current events, and I know 295 00:18:57,799 --> 00:19:00,200 you do too. And you've probably heard me say get 296 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,200 your news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's how 297 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,839 you detect media bias, which is why I've been so 298 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,519 impressed with ground News. 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The email is p 314 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,880 at the peteclendershow dot com and on Twitter at Pete Calendar. 315 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,599 Here's a Pete tweet from Teresa who says it is 316 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,240 great that NPR in public radio is being questioned by Congress. 317 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,440 I would like to see the emails related to their answers. 318 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,960 Do they have any proof? Yeah, the proof of what 319 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,480 the data that she mentioned? Yeah, I don't know. They're 320 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,440 just going to zero out the budget, like that's what 321 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:34,119 the Republicans want to do, and it's completely appropriate. They 322 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,839 will be able to continue to produce whatever they're producing, 323 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:41,559 you know, granted they may not be able to employ 324 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,680 the fourteen producers for every single episode that they currently use. 325 00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:49,000 It's amazing, by the way, like I have said this 326 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:50,799 before and I will say it again, which is the 327 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,319 number of people that they have to work on a 328 00:20:54,400 --> 00:21:00,839 single program is astounding. Anybody who works in radio knows this. Okay, 329 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,160 I've got Nick and I've got Bernie in this studio. 330 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,200 This is the biggest staff I have ever had to 331 00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:11,799 produce a program that I have ever done. Two people 332 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:17,079 besides me, Right, that's it. And you listen to these 333 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,839 NPR programs and they start rattling off dozens of names 334 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,240 at the end of the show of all the people 335 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,240 that have produced the show, and it's like, well, why 336 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,319 do you have all these people producing the show? There's 337 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,400 no way there's that many people required to do a program. 338 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,279 You don't need that many people. But when you have 339 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:38,720 a lot of money, you could throw it all around 340 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:43,400 and whatever. And some of these programs are just like 341 00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:49,119 recuts of past programs. This American life. I'm looking in 342 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:55,000 your direction, Russ says Pete. You mentioned the NPR argument 343 00:21:56,039 --> 00:21:58,480 that you know, without US, rural areas would have no 344 00:21:58,599 --> 00:22:02,240 radio stations. I think I know the answer. But why 345 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,559 do you think the left quiver of arguments is so 346 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,200 full of racisty and classist assumptions, like without US, poor 347 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,759 people can't get internet, black people don't have access to computers, 348 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,680 or don't have the ability to get an ID to vote, 349 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,599 and so on. Yeah, no one will be able to 350 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,240 figure out how to do radio in Alaska if we're 351 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:29,359 not there. This is their argument. All right, I got 352 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,839 some more audio clips. Let's get to him. 353 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: This is. 354 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: To do. Brandon Gill, This is awesome, Brandon Gill, Republic. 355 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,839 Speaker 7: You believe that America is addicted to white supremacy. 356 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,759 Speaker 2: I believe that I tweeted that, And as I've said earlier, 357 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:47,279 I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the 358 00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:48,200 last half decade. 359 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: Oh, it's another evolution of thinking. By the way, you 360 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:58,000 notice in her last answer to Tim Burchett, she said 361 00:22:58,039 --> 00:23:03,359 that she was reflecting Trump is a racist, Like, oh, 362 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,599 I was just reflecting on it. You're not reflecting on anything. 363 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:12,200 You're calling Trump a racist, a sociopath, deranged or whatever. 364 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:17,160 Just own it. The tweets are still up. She hasn't 365 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,279 even deleted them, so that's not reflecting. That's a knee 366 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,079 jerk reaction. She's reacting. But you use the word reflecting 367 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,039 as if there's some deeper level of thought going on, 368 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,920 just like just like now she's saying, oh, I evolved, 369 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,680 like Obama evolved on gay marriage back to his original 370 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,920 position where he was for it, but then when he 371 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,640 ran for president and he had to come out against it, 372 00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:43,799 and then in the second term he's for it again. 373 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,400 He evolved. And this is allowable if you're a Democrat. 374 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,880 You're allowed to evolve your thinking on these positions when 375 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,880 politically convenient or necessary. 376 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: It has evolved. Why did you tweet that? 377 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: I don't recall it exact context, sir, so I wouldn't 378 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,039 be able to. 379 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:05,559 Speaker 7: Say, Okay, do you believe that America believes in black 380 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,279 plunder and white democracy? 381 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: I don't believe that, sir. 382 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 7: You tweeted that is reparence to a book you were 383 00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:16,440 reading at the time, apparently The Case for Reparations. 384 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:18,319 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever read that book, sir. 385 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: Okay, hang on a second, Hang on, So she has 386 00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:28,000 a tweet that she now doesn't remember sending that she 387 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,160 sent apparently after reading a book that she says she 388 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:31,920 didn't read. 389 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: You tweeted about it. 390 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,559 Speaker 7: You said you took a day off to fully read 391 00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:39,160 The Case for Reparations. You put that on Twitter in 392 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,480 January of twenty twenty. 393 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: I apologies. I don't recall that I did. Ok no 394 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,559 doubt that your tweet there is correct, But I don't 395 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:48,359 recall that. 396 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: She doesn't remember taking a day off of work to 397 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,160 read a book called The Case for Reparations, which I 398 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,640 believe was written by Tany Coats. I think this was 399 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,480 twenty twenty. This was like Christopher Rufo, this is what 400 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:09,880 he just said. He's still laughing. He says about the 401 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,920 fact that mar tweeted that she took an entire day 402 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,319 off to read the Case for Reparations and then admitted 403 00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:19,119 to Congress that she lied about it and had never 404 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,160 even read the book. That is the perfect symbol of 405 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,599 the awful mindset, the affluent white female liberal awfl the 406 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,000 awful mindset. Right, I'm gonna go on to Twitter today 407 00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:34,480 and say I took the day off so I could 408 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,720 do the work. I did the work. That's my NPR voice. 409 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,680 By the way, she did not have nearly enough vocal 410 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,920 fry in her voice for NPR, so I'm not sure 411 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,400 if she should work on that or not. But it's like, seriously, 412 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,160 you claim to have taken a day off of work 413 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,599 to read a book, and then you tweet about white 414 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,480 plunder and now you're like, oh, I don't remember sending that. 415 00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:01,119 I don't think I've read that book at all. It's 416 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,680 it really is a perfect encapsulation of the problem on 417 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,240 the left here. 418 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 7: Okay, do you believe that white people and inherently feel 419 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,000 superior to other races? 420 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,519 Speaker 2: I do not. 421 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: Don't. 422 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,599 Speaker 7: You tweeted something to that effect. You said, I grew 423 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,720 up feeling superior. Ha, how wide of me. Why did 424 00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:20,319 you tweet that? 425 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: I think I was probably reflecting on what it was 426 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:27,000 to be to grow up in an environment where I 427 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,039 had lots of advantages. 428 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,079 Speaker 7: It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior. 429 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:34,319 Speaker 2: I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I 430 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:36,079 was just reflecting on my own experiences. 431 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: Do you think the white people should pay reparations? 432 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: I have never said that, sir. 433 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,559 Speaker 4: Yes, you did said it in January of twenty twenty. 434 00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:47,559 Speaker 7: You tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, Yes, America, Yes, 435 00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:51,640 our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations, yes 436 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,279 on this day. 437 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir. 438 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 4: What kind of reparations was it a reference to? 439 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: I think it was just a reference to the idea 440 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960 that we all oh much to the people who came 441 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,119 before us. 442 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,039 Speaker 4: That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted. 443 00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: It is, are there are there other kinds of reparations? 444 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,880 Reparations means payment, That's what the whole debate about reparations 445 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,400 for slavery is about That's what she was talking about. 446 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,839 That's why she said yes the North like yes, because 447 00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,200 that's one of the criticisms, like do the Northern States 448 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,400 have to pay reparations? They fought to free the slaves? Right, 449 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:34,079 I know, I know, but like that's like, just say slavery. 450 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,279 That's the Civil War thought over slavery. Right, It's a 451 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,279 Simpsons line. It's a reference to the Simpsons when up 452 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:43,039 who is taking a citizenship test and he starts explaining 453 00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:45,319 all of the reasons for the Civil War, and the 454 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,400 examiners just like, just say slavery. So that's why she 455 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,799 sent the tweet saying what she said. It was about, Yes, 456 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:58,000 fiscal reparations. She's just lying about it now to congress 457 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,680 the perfect and thesabsolation of the awful mindset. 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Mail orders are 475 00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:06,160 accepted to get all the details that createavideo dot com. 476 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,319 Let me read a couple of emails. This is from Dennis. 477 00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:12,279 He says, I have never liked the fact that US 478 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:16,119 taxpayers have been paying for NPR, PBS, National Education Board 479 00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:19,400 and funding Planned Parenthood. I will make an exception for 480 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:23,000 the cookie monster. I can relate to that character as 481 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:27,880 a Bernie Sanders type personality. There's Seth who says there 482 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,200 is a simple fix for the bias in these news 483 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,400 outlets using the Democrat leftist playbook, DEI hires fifty percent 484 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,039 of your employees need to be conservative Republicans. I bet 485 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:45,039 they'd close their doors if they had to hire right wingers. 486 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,240 Let me get back to this audio. This is Brandon 487 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:55,279 Gill just with this epic takedown of Catherine Marr, the 488 00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:59,799 CEO of National Public Radio, reading her own words back 489 00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:06,160 to her, and she seems to not remember or to 490 00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:09,839 have now evolved, and Russ says, yes, when whenever these 491 00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:15,200 lefties talk about, you know, what their thinking has evolved, 492 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,559 it just means that that position doesn't help me right now. 493 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,000 That earlier statement is not helpful to me right now. 494 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:24,200 So I have evolved away from it, but I do 495 00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:26,720 reserve the right to evolve back to it immediately after 496 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,680 we're done with this hearing. 497 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 7: Okay, how how many how much reparations have you personally paid? 498 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,119 Speaker 2: Sir? I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations. 499 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,799 Speaker 4: Okay, just for everybody else. 500 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,279 Speaker 2: I'm not asking anyone to be what you're suggesting that. 501 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,319 Speaker 1: Well, no, that was actually what she suggested. She said, yes, 502 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:50,839 reparations now, but not I'm not going to pay them 503 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:55,480 she's not paying the reparations. And she just got through 504 00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:59,200 saying that she didn't mean fiscal reparations. But then when asked, 505 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,079 have you paid any she says no, I haven't. So 506 00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:06,920 she's done literally nothing, even though she's calling for non 507 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,440 fiscal reparations that she didn't even do herself. There would 508 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,720 be no cost to you. Why would you? Why wouldn't 509 00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:17,359 you engage in whatever a non fiscal reparation is. I 510 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,880 don't even know what that would be, but why wouldn't 511 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,319 you do it? It doesn't cost you anything? But she didn't 512 00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:25,720 even do that. She hasn't paid anything. She hasn't done anything. 513 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,279 Classic awful behavior. Now on looting is morally wrong. 514 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,079 Speaker 2: I believe that looting is illegal, and I refer to 515 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,200 it as counterproductive. I think it should be prosecuted. 516 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 7: You believe it's morally wrong, though, of course, of course, 517 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,680 then why did you refer to it as counter productive? 518 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,039 Speaker 4: The very different, very different way to describe it. 519 00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:47,119 Speaker 2: It is both morally wrong and counterproductive, as well as. 520 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,759 Speaker 4: Being be tweeted. It's hard to be mad about protests. 521 00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 7: In reference to the BLM protests, not prioritizing the private 522 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,359 property of a system of oppression. 523 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:02,359 Speaker 1: It's hard to be mad at the violence. It's hard 524 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,720 to be mad about it. That's what she said. That's 525 00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:07,200 not something you say if you believe it's morally wrong. 526 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,680 But now she does think it's morally wrong. She just 527 00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:17,440 didn't when she was, you know, banging the drum for BLM. 528 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,319 Speaker 7: You didn't condemn the looting. You said that it was 529 00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:23,359 counter productive. NPR also promoted a book called Indefensive Looting. 530 00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:25,759 Do you think that that's an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars. 531 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm unfamiliar with that book, sir, and I don't believe 532 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,400 that was atwe did it? 533 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,279 Speaker 4: Think you read that book? 534 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,359 Speaker 1: But another one? 535 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,079 Speaker 2: I don't believe that I did read that book, sir. 536 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that there's another one? So she's she's 537 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,599 got two books that she tweets about reading, one of 538 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,160 which she said she had to take a whole day 539 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,400 off of work to read the book. And now she 540 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:48,519 has no recollection of reading these books. I don't know 541 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,519 these books. I've never seen these books. I do not 542 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:54,039 recall reading these books. But I tweeted that I read them, 543 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,000 and I adopted the narrative that was required of me 544 00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:04,480 as a leftist. This is the perfect encapsulation of everything 545 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:08,799 wrong with NPR. She is the perfect hire. All right, 546 00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,200 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 547 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,279 for listening. I could not do the show without your 548 00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,079 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 549 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,880 the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too 550 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,599 and tell them you heard it here. 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