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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,

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mixing some vodka. Colored a podcast from the Mac of

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All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler

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Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on.

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Thanks for telling a friend, and that's how we spread

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the word about the pirate ship. And he's got it.

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How many different Buffalo Bill's hats do you have?

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Speaker 3: Twelve?

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Speaker 2: All right, that's pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know what's funny is that, like people already trying

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to break down next season. I have no interest. I

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don't know what it is. I think a Bill's out, Yeah,

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could be Bill's exhaustion.

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Speaker 2: I feel fatigue, Yeah, I feel very fatigue. I've had

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a really hard week, like a really really challenging week

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this week.

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Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, not good and like most of your weeks

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like start like that. So this is like above the baseline.

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Speaker 2: Huh, this is above the baseline. And it's not anything

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that I am comfortable talking about. Not that I can't

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talk about it. I could. It is my podcast. I

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don't have to worry about anything. But there's a little

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voice inside my head. I said, right now isn't the

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time to discuss all that stuff. But there are things

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that I do want to I want to talk about

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because today was actually overall a really really good day. Good.

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But it's been a real shitty, tough week, just a

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tough week. All the weekends almost here, I know, and

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I yes, and I have a colonoscopy Friday. Oh, I

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Speaker 4: I had idea.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we should discuss it.

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Speaker 2: Sure, we'll have an on air, a non podcast meeting meeting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but you talk about you your fear of this.

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I love my last my last hilioscopy.

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Speaker 4: It was fantastic, didn't feel a thing.

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Speaker 2: The rep was awesome. I don't have a problem.

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Speaker 3: You get the news.

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Speaker 4: Only two polyps see in five years. Yeah, you had

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Speaker 3: You're dock in three years, So I wonder if my

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Speaker 2: No, I'm also significantly older than you. I'm almost ten

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years older than you, right forty five, I'm forty five. Yeah,

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I'm gonna be fifty five.

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like Coli Guarden?

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Speaker 2: Probably, I don't know, Uh, but because they were there's

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nobody removing anything, so I think you want to see

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if there's polyps. So you go in. I got to

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start the prep tomorrow, but I have Fisher classes, so I.

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Speaker 4: My satellite from the men's room.

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Speaker 2: I don't know so.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry.

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term on zoom from the bathroom.

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Speaker 2: So here's the weird part that the week before I

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had something that was that was going to interfere with class,

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that had to do with another class. So I needed

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to be in the studio and I had to do

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I have to do an assessment on somebody, right, and

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write a treatment plan and all this stuff. So he

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had to interview somebody and they are the same person

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for everybody, but so you had to schedule times, like

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you can't just fight some random Now, like this is

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a guy who is is a counselor himself. I think

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maybe a professor at another institution somewhere in the country.

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plays a part and you're supposed to like pull information

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what was happening and all the parts involved in it,

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he goes listen, not because of you, But there were

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several other issues that came up. I'm making tonight's class

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asynchronous and don't worry about coming in and we'll meet

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was going for just an assessment. I don't know i'd

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and the guy said, hey, you got it. You're overdue

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for He says, you're six months old. I'm not we

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do you think? I go, great, sign me up. So

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he said they're gonna call you. You got to answer

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now fine, I'll miss happy or it'll be whatever. It's

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in the afternoon tomorrow. So then I'm driving with my

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really remember because I used to hear it was horrific,

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they tell me and they go, oh, yeah, but you know, no,

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all that day, the first day, and you're going to

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first Mirrlax drink. And I go, oh, well, I have

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grad school at ten o'clock. And she said, uh oh,

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it's possible. And I said, eh, so I write, I said,

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its smelly kidden class. Patrick Ralph was you had a name?

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even know if he's still alive, but Patrick Raff, Yeah,

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that makes it stark. I should I should look up

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Patrick ral. So I send it to the professor and

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he goes, I've had plenty of those. You should be fine,

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Speaker 4: They tell you not, They tell you not to specifically that.

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didn't come out. So when it was done, the nurse

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like theyn't come talk to you afterward. Hey, look, Dan,

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swallowed yours three. You must have passed it when you

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Speaker 2: Well, uh yeah, so that that'll be my fun weekend,

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you know, after a crappy week. I don't know. I

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he was trying to get like better treatment and more

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experiment and he just ran out. And you know, you

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Speaker 3: But here's how it would work.

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Speaker 4: We give it, Like somebody would have to, like a

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because cancer is life changing. So you got to award

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a life changing prize, right, So you get one entry

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for every pole up they find in your cold. So guys,

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gals were rushing to get their colon cleansed or checked. Right, Hey, hey.

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Speaker 2: Doc, doc, I had four. I had four pops.

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Speaker 4: You got to tell the dealership.

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Speaker 3: Most entries, That doesn't mean they're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: They just get more entries to win whatever the prizes.

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Speaker 2: But if you don't.

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Speaker 4: At least you'll know where you stand if you don't win,

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you know where you stand on the colonoscopiece.

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Speaker 2: You've got to go sell this me.

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Speaker 4: I'm not This is just an idea. I'm not saying

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you got to sell it.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to sell it to get the car to

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give away. I'm find a car.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so in other words, car.

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Speaker 4: Let's say, let's say we have a friends from like

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a place called I don't know that rhymes with picture

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dodge Taste. Yeah, be like, look, you know, hey, yeah,

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you know, take away Kevin's car, give it to somebody

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else and they enter all you know. No, isn't that

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a cool idea?

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Speaker 2: Though? It's a good idea.

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Speaker 4: It gets people to screen their colons.

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and younger people, and you think.

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Speaker 4: Of I know two women who died in their thirties.

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Speaker 2: Chadwick Boseman. Yeah, the actor, he yeah, died of it. Uh.

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And I didn't. I thought he was in his thirties.

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But people are saying, no, he was in his forties.

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I didn't bother to look. I just I knew he

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was young, right, too young for that Yeah, so that'll

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be my.

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Speaker 4: What was happening was a lot of the doctors because

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they weren't seeing colon cancer happening in younger people, so

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when they would go to the doctor with pain, they

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would just recommend something and then the pain wouldn't go away,

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it would just continue to grow.

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Speaker 3: Well you're too young to have that. Well you're too young.

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Speaker 4: Unless you had it is a history in your family.

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They weren't going to check you for that right now.

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They're like, oh, maybe we need to reassess this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so somebody did bring something up saying that could

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it be this is the first generation to really kind

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of grow up on microwaved food.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's quick, it's easy. If your parents were both working.

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Speaker 2: You know, I might, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You got to take it out of the plastic. If

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you're gonna do microwave, take it out of the plastic,

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put it in glass, or put it in surrounds.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people I know people who won't use

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the microwave. I believe that. Yeah, Bobby Bones would not. Never. Yeah,

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so anyway, I don't I don't know. I don't run

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in these paranoid circles of things. I just figured it's maintenance,

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and I'll go and I'll have it done, and I'm

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assuming everything will be fine.

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Speaker 4: I just try to cut down and everything that could poison.

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Speaker 2: Me and we'll just uh and we'll move on. We'll

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move on from there. Why don't we take just a

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short minute break and then we'll come back. I want

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to talk a little bit about there's something that went

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on this past week that I think goes transcends and

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I think it's a good thing for everybody to kind

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of look at themselves and sort of go, oh, yeah,

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that's what life is, that's what you know, that's what

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makes you a stronger person. We'll see, all right, Maybe

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you'll think it's not the same as me, but we'll

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get to it. We'll find out right after this. Ever,

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look at your wall and think, hmmm, that hole definitely

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wasn't there yesterday, Or maybe your fawcet's got a drip

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that's slowly driving you into madness. That's when you got

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to call my buddies at Mac of All Trades, because

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it's your home, and if you don't have the skills

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to fix it yourself, go to the people who do.

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And trust me, there's nobody better than Mac of All Trades.

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They do everything. Leaky faucet they got it, Drafty windows

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and doors done, electrical plumbing, carpentry sure, full kitchen or

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bathroom model, Oh yeah, they'll do that too. From patching

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the hole that someone made by definitely not slamming the door,

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to transforming your entire space. Mac of All Trades gets

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it done quickly and the right way. Stop putting up

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with cold drafts and half finished to do list. Give

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them a call at five eight five to zero two

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Get started on that to do list today, Mac of

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All Trades, No job too small, the oasis the way

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I always see this. This is a song about.

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Speaker 4: With the Russians too, with the Russians.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was with the Russians too. I love the song.

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Speaker 3: It's like a poor man's Billy Jordan.

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Speaker 2: I was scambling in her bad I told a risk

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I can hear it that. Yeah, I love I love

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this song. I don't know yours Guttingendboddy Dad, because yeah, this.

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Speaker 1: I mean a sudden basket somehow between the lock and

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the hardness.

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Speaker 2: And my luck. I love what there's one line in here.

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I just I've been waiting for it.

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Speaker 4: Now, didn't you record now? Mark before he died, he

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knew he was gonna die, and.

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Speaker 2: Joy every sandwich.

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Speaker 4: I'm a test man, Senniers, guns and money.

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Speaker 2: The ship has hit the fan.

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Speaker 4: The ship has hit the fan.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. It's such a simple song, and

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I go, I fucking get this. It's so I can

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so relate to this song.

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Speaker 4: Is he the one who came up with that phrase? No? Oh, okay,

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because like a lot of times, artists won't use cliches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then, uh yeah, it's funny. My head's in so

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many places and I'm I'm I'm a fucking I'm kind

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of a mess inside inside me. Today. I had a

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very good day, as I said, but I have a lot.

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There's a lot, and uh yeah, probably I think need

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to I think so. I think I haven't been doing

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my rituals of things. I think I've allowed things to

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slide a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'm just joking.

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Speaker 2: I think that. Yeah, it's interesting. The mental health stuff

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for me has been like just a fucking inside I

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mean talk about like just going through it. It's like

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you're you're you're seeing things, noticing things and all that. Wait,

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should I read what I just got? My feedback is

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back from my my treatment plan one that I wrote.

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Should I read that? Should I read it? On? On

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the podcast? Do I do? I do that right now? Yeah? Uh?

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Do it?

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Speaker 4: In a reporter voice, Bill, it appears that your treatment.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where I find that. It took me

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right to the thing. Uh uh, I don't know where

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she puts it. Wait, maybe they must go in like

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uh students and greats. I would assume, right, All right,

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let's see you'd assume That's what I would assume. So

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I am very very confident you'll master the technical parts

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of the treatment plan with more practice. Uh oh, oh

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my god, I did terrible. I got a seventy five.

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Well that wasn't what I come on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this week just keeps getting better, is it? Maybe

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we should wait till after.

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Speaker 2: I got the correct diagnosis with all the specifiers.

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Speaker 4: However, you recommended pross diglibrium partially some Oh fuck I jah, Hey,

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they don't.

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Speaker 3: Do well well? You hold yourself to a high standard or.

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Speaker 2: Not developed with client all objectives. I'm gonna have to

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go through this. I'll fucking nail the next one. All Right,

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I look at it this way, and this is great

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because it kind of ties into what I'm saying. Writing

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a treatment plan is a challenge. It really is, and

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I think it's a challenge for anybody in the profession

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that's doing it. And since you've never done it before,

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I don't usually take like the first I'm not too

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worried about it. Like even she said, I'm very very

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confident you're gonna get with more practice. There's something I

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have said for many, many years is that the more reps,

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the better you're going to get at anything if you

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really want to do it. And so I think that

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I was trying to get this done and get it

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done by a deadline, and I probably softened on the

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end of it because it has taken me. It took

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me so long to write what the diagnosis and the

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formulation was, and those were the two best parts of

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this thing. From what I just looked at, it would

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just brief. But going with that story, So I had

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your wife's a teacher kids where we are are off

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this week? Yes, So I was looking for something for

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my son to do that would I kind of occupy

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his time and maybe give him something else to concentrate on,

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because I'm just seeing like a lot of cognitive things

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that just, you know, worry typical teenager shit, things that

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kind of get bigger in your head than they may

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really be in reality.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that goes on to adulthood too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I thought, okay, we're going to try this.

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So he had agreed that he would he would do this,

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and it was going to be three days, and I

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think I talked about this. I looked at a couple

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of different places, and I figured, you know, I have

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the time, and some of them were more expensive than others,

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but I found one that was pretty reasonable and plus

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I had and it included the equipment, and I needed

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to buy helmets and jackets and pants and all this stuff.

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And uh so he was a little reluctant then all

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of a sudden, because at one point it kind of

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became this is what you want me to do, And

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I said, well, I thought you'd like it, and you

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said you wanted to try snowboarding, so okay, here's the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: In the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: So we kind of went back and forth throughout this stuff.

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I was out of town for the weekend. His mom's

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been in town, so she was with him. Uh, and

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then she told me on Sunday night, he's very excited

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to go on Monday. Now, I don't know if you remember,

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but where we're living, Monday was absolutely beautiful. Yeah, sunny,

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a little bit warmer. Beth and I went for a run,

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did you yes, a run? Yeah? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: You usually do wind sprints, which you can't keep up.

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Speaker 2: I wish, I fucking wish I was your daghbor. Somebody's everything.

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Speaker 4: I'm on like at least seventy five doorbell camps. I

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am sure they have identified me as a cross breed.

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If you saw that Super Bowl comer, the Golden Retriever.

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Speaker 2: And you know some of the dogs, right. So he

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we get there and they say get there an hour early.

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They'll set you up with all the equipment stuff. Well,

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the camp started at nine thirty. I give them a

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tremendous amount of credit because it started like nine thirty two.

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He was out there, so I go, well, that's impressive

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because all these people were coming in and then we

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had to go over and get the rental equipment. Man,

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they ran it so well, really well run, and but

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we were there a little early, and I think he

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was anxious and then he now he's fifteen, and the

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camp went from eight to fifteen, and he hasn't skied

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or snowboarded, but said he wanted to try snowboarding, and

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snowboarding is not an easy thing to pick up. It's tough.

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And at fifteen he is six five. I mean, he's

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like a he looks like a d one tight end.

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You know, he's six to two hundred pounds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, baby gronk, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, this is this is what the kid looks like.

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So we're in there and all these little kids now

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show up and most of them are I'm gonna say

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the average age is nine of these kids. And I'm like,

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and I can tell he's super uncomfortable and the biggest

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thing and he and think about this from a teenage perspective.

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Try to bring yourself back to being a teenager.

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Speaker 4: One of the I'm picturing Dwight from the office when

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he was doing karate and he was bragging about how

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far he had advanced, and then they show him in

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the class and it's him and a bunch of killing

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little kids. That's what I'm thinking of Jamison right now. Well,

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it's just saying yeah.

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Speaker 2: So so I just say that because it is when

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you could picture the dynamic, right, I mean, here's the he.

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I think if you looked from a distance, you think

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he's an instructor with these little kids. Right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's learning too.

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Speaker 2: He's learning too. And you know, man, embarrassment at fifteen

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isn't a moment. It's like a life sentence. It just

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is with with these things. So he heads out and

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I get a call that is mumbled into the phone,

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basically going this sucks. I can't get up on the board.

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I don't want to do it. I don't know why

468
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,880
people do a sport that will just embarrass them. So

469
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,440
I don't know what to say because I have kind

470
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,839
of wanted to make sure he got out there and stuff.

471
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:36,240
But I have now put on my own ski boots,

472
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,279
but I've yet to purchase a ticket to go skiing.

473
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:46,519
So I get another call. I'm done. I'm not doing this,

474
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,880
and I said, okay, you're gonna be mad at me.

475
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,680
He said, no, I'm not gonna be mad at it.

476
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:57,640
So he comes in and lovely woman that runs it

477
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,640
is with him, and he he smartly just said I

478
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,200
knew I would lose it, like I would lose my

479
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,279
temper and take.

480
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: The board, start hitting.

481
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,039
Speaker 2: And he's like, the instructor didn't want to go down

482
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:14,880
the road. The instructor didn't want me to quit, didn't

483
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,559
want me to stop. He's like, and I said to her,

484
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:21,319
I feel like I'm not going to be able to

485
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,039
control myself because I'm getting so angry. And nobody deserves that.

486
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:25,880
You don't deserve that.

487
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,319
Speaker 3: That's what he said, A mature answer.

488
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:32,839
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this dude, he has intellectual EQ. He

489
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240
is dialed in for the emotional EQ.

490
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 4: Right, so emotional intelligence that's the term.

491
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: So he says, uh, so he comes. So I now

492
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:44,200
I'm trying to figure out where he is and all

493
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:50,240
this stuff. And he I run to the instructor and

494
00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:52,400
she said, to your Jamis instead, and I said, I am.

495
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:54,799
She said, he said, he just wants to sit in

496
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:58,119
here for a minute. She said snowboarding is really hard.

497
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,440
She goes, people don't realize it, and she said, especially

498
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,799
when you're a big guy. She goes, you know, six

499
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,599
to two, right, And.

500
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, you got me more like a jockey.

501
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: She's like, well, you could be a big guy like

502
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:11,519
you know, and I think he's also like, then there's

503
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:15,000
a little bit of like envy because his cousin, who

504
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,240
is eight, is on an elite ski team at a

505
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,720
resort Maine every weekend. So he's like, why didn't he

506
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:24,799
get me on skis when I was younger? Right? It

507
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:25,599
was kind of the thing, and.

508
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 4: Dad, why didn't you crazy glue skis into my feet

509
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,359
when I was three?

510
00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: So I didn't say anything.

511
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: I said the same thing.

512
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: I tried to do skiing with my oldest kid and

513
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,799
it was met with a lot of resistance after he fell.

514
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,200
So whatever, So I don't really answer the question. And

515
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:45,359
the woman says to me, he did say he may

516
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,440
he just wants to think about it for a little bit.

517
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,400
But I told him he can switch to skiing and

518
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,200
skiing is easier, and I said, okay, great. So I

519
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,519
go and I sit down and I'm and you know,

520
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:58,160
he's like, you're mad. I said, I'm not mad, but

521
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,759
I don't you know, what do you want to do?

522
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:09,200
And he's like I he goes, I uh, I think

523
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,759
I'm going to try the ski and I go, okay.

524
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:14,559
So we wait a little bit, we have something to eat,

525
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,240
We go over get them set up with skis. We

526
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,119
get on skis and he says to me, do I

527
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,960
have to go to the lesson or can I ski

528
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,119
with you? And I said, oh, yeah, you can ski

529
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,079
with me. Now, I don't know where they're going, right,

530
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,680
I'm not that familiar with where we are, and I thought, well,

531
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,200
there's easy trails, and I thought everything was over to

532
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,000
the left. And he's like, no, I want to go

533
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:40,480
do the magic carpet is what they call it. He goes,

534
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:44,400
I just want to test this out. So I said, okay.

535
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,920
So it's a good distance to the magic Carpet from

536
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,559
where we are, and it's hot. It's like the sun's

537
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,480
out now, right. I got the shades, the helmet I get.

538
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,680
I'm like, my helmet was soaked with sweat. I can.

539
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: I can, yeah, because it's the combination of it's nice weather,

540
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:03,759
but you have to put out all the stuff.

541
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,839
Speaker 2: Right, So I have the helmet on. I probably could

542
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:07,480
have skied just in the sweater, but I got the

543
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:10,559
sweater and I had like a wick away shirt underneath

544
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:15,519
that jacking on. Got the pants right, So I say

545
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:17,240
to him we can carry him. Well, now let's put

546
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,200
him on and we'll go. I said, all right, well

547
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,319
you got to try to like skate with your skis

548
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:24,039
to get over there. That's not really going anywhere. So

549
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:29,119
it's kind of walking and we're it's like I said,

550
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,720
it's it's a bit of a distance. So the frustration

551
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,640
is kind of building up because it's a it's more work,

552
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,480
and you can't in skis downhill skis you don't have

553
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,200
like cross country where you can leverage. Right, you're lifting

554
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,720
your foot and your leverage. So I'm trying to show

555
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:45,519
him the thing. And then finally I just kind of

556
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:47,839
walk with him a little bit and we passed this

557
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,880
one guy and the guy sees him and he goes, man,

558
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,960
I don't feel so bad now. Now. What I didn't

559
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,960
tell you was when he went out with his group,

560
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,599
I walked out just to kind of make sure he

561
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920
got off, and it's all these little kids and one

562
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200
one of the fathers turns to another fund and goes, hey,

563
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,880
I think I saw that guy at the bar last night,

564
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:14,720
meaning Jamison, you no, I know that, because just like

565
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:18,440
we were saying, fifteen sixty two hundred pounds looking like that, right,

566
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,519
your d one tight end. So we get over to

567
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,319
finally we get over to the magic carpet and it

568
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:31,160
The magic carpet is basically a conveyor belt that you

569
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400
ski onto and it takes you up. It replaces the

570
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,359
old toe rope. If anybody remembers the toe rope, you

571
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,119
used to have a toe rope at our at Our,

572
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,240
at Our.

573
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,079
Speaker 3: I can't beullyeve, I forgot about this.

574
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: I used to ski at the town dump.

575
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:50,039
Speaker 4: Oh really, Yeah, they put up but it would snow,

576
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:54,319
it would snow, and they had like I guess, I

577
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,240
guess we did dan Or they did like a landfill

578
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,720
section so it was more of a sturdy ground underneath,

579
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,200
and everything was frozen anyway, and they put a toe

580
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:04,640
rope in and you they would tell you to.

581
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,519
Speaker 2: Top me ski down. Yeah, it was like bye love

582
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,559
New York. I think it was. I think it was

583
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,000
free like And I had skied cat him out in

584
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,240
all these places Killington when I was kid, but so

585
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,160
at Park City is where I had learned because that's

586
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,880
where my uncle lives. So I I was so okay.

587
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,279
So we uh so we get over to the magic

588
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:27,799
carpet and now the frustration's going and there's some lank,

589
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,720
colorful language coming out of his mouth, and I get

590
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,640
it and I understand. And it's low. He's not loud,

591
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,839
he's not saying, but I can hear it right, And

592
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,279
I said, hey, watch it because there's little kids around.

593
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,400
I don't care, you know, just frustrated. So now there's

594
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,599
a slight incline to get to the magic carpet. And

595
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,759
I am like, I thought I probably should be behind him,

596
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,960
but the way I'm positioned, I'm now in front of him.

597
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,480
So I say to him, you you want to go

598
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200
across the hill, lean into it a little bit with

599
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,599
the edge of your skis and just kind of walk

600
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,359
up and so he starts to turn whatever, and he goes,

601
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,759
you give terrible advice, So like, go, okay, do your thing.

602
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,839
So I get up there and there's two little kids.

603
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,759
This thing is built for five year olds in snow pants.

604
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,680
That's what the match of carpet is. But smartly, he's saying,

605
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:22,279
let me get a feel for the skis on that

606
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,319
little bunny hill. It's not even like it's just a

607
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:31,759
So I get on it. It's kind of a steep,

608
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,240
little right onto the thing. And I'm looking at this

609
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:37,680
thing and I go, this is going to grab your

610
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,519
skis right and kind of grab hold. You're not gonna

611
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:43,880
have any give because it's rubber, but it's it's like

612
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:48,119
elevated bumps on it that we're open, so it almost

613
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:50,119
builds a suction. This is what I'm thinking in my head,

614
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,839
and I'm pretty sure that this is what happens, and

615
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,880
so it holds you in place and you just kind

616
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,960
of slide on there. But what happens is when you're bigger,

617
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,039
your skis are a little bit longer, and I'm going

618
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:03,440
sure for a little kid smaller skis, they ski down

619
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,240
and goes right onto the magic carpet. I ski down,

620
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:08,640
part of my ski is still on the ramp and

621
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,519
the front of my ski is gonna get pulled, and

622
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:14,440
I kind of can see this, and I'm thinking, oh boy,

623
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:19,640
I should be behind him. I get on and there's

624
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:23,759
a girl, little girl who got on before me, and

625
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:26,119
then there's a little boy in front of him her

626
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,720
and but evenly spaced out. And then all of a sudden,

627
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:39,240
Jameson comes on and I hear poor kid, and I go.

628
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,720
I turn around and he's off to the side, skis

629
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,480
up in the air. He's on the side, and I go.

630
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,039
There is nothing more humbling than falling off this thing

631
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,039
that's designed for five year olds. I go, oh my god, right,

632
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:58,200
and so this is and he's already said, why do

633
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,799
people do a sport that just embarrasses them the whole time?

634
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,039
You know, and there was others like golf? And I go,

635
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,440
I mean and so I I see him. He's frustrated,

636
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,599
and he goes its, yeah, I'm done, and the skis

637
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,239
are off and he's standing down at the bottom of

638
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,800
the hill. I want to get back there as quickly

639
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,039
as possible, just to kind of assess the situation. I

640
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:25,119
don't know how angry he is, I will say again,

641
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:29,360
keeps himself in really good check in public, like very

642
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:35,800
good and self aware. So little kid, the little boy

643
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,320
at the front, he falls getting off the thing and

644
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,480
no one's helping him. And he's off and he's laying

645
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:45,760
on the ground and he's starting to cry a little

646
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,519
bit and I can hear him. And so they stop

647
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,320
the belt. But the guy at the top doesn't really

648
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,239
do anything, and all of a sudden he goes, hey, hey,

649
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,079
you need help, see the kid. The kid's laying there.

650
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:59,559
I go, you don't ask, you just got a fucking help, right, Well,

651
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,760
they start the belt up again. So now the girl's off,

652
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,480
but now she stops. So here I come. I'm two

653
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,760
hundred and thirty pounds and I'm coming and I go.

654
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,079
I say to the guy, I go, bro, you got

655
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,760
to stop this thing or move those kids. I go,

656
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,519
because it's not going to be pretty. In a second.

657
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,679
Speaker 4: You got yeah, you're like like Indiana Jones and the ball.

658
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:25,199
Speaker 2: What the fuck is happening? It's get very wrong. So

659
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,639
I now ski down to Jamison. All right, finally get around,

660
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,519
get around the kids. Ski down. He goes, I'm not

661
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:34,599
doing it, and I said okay. He goes, I want

662
00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:39,920
to go home, and I said okay, and I think

663
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,119
he kind of waited. I think he started to put

664
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,599
the ski on again. One of them pops a different way,

665
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,519
and he goes, that's it and he walks off. So

666
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,320
now I'm stuck. I'm standing there. I have my skis on,

667
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,400
and I have polls, and he had poles. Whenever I've

668
00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:00,280
learned or taught instructed people with skiing, and then I've

669
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,760
never done it in a formal sense, it's no poles.

670
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:07,480
But because he was six to two, I kind of

671
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:09,400
convinced him, like, hey, man, give him the poles, because

672
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,519
if you start to go down and you can dig

673
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,039
with the pole, you can regain your balance. And I

674
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,480
thought that might be a good thing for him, right,

675
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:22,079
because I'm picturing us like on some other trail on

676
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,159
the sunny day. I got a I got a Disney

677
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:27,280
fucking ski movie in my head. This is what's happening.

678
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:37,159
Not the Sonny Bono story, no, no, so right, So now, dude,

679
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,880
he walks off, and I'm there, and I get a call.

680
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,360
You got to help me get these stupid boots off

681
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,840
my feet while I have a bit of a problem

682
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:49,679
in the fact that I'm trying to juggle you. I'm

683
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,719
skiing down your skis, your poles, my poles, and the

684
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480
helmet that you left here that you took off as well.

685
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,320
So stand by. I'll get there and forget it. I'll

686
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,679
find somebody to help me, Okay. So I get back

687
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:09,360
and I walk into the rental place. He's already got

688
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,880
the shoes, his sneakers on, and he walks up to

689
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,159
where he returned the skis and puts them in and

690
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:21,400
that's it. But meantime, meantime, I forgot this. I did

691
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,960
go buy a ticket. It's a holiday, so the prices

692
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,519
are higher, and I didn't even get on a lift

693
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,760
like there is kind of just like sometimes and I

694
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,119
know it shouldn't be about the money kind of right,

695
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:38,920
but it was like just kind of burning the money

696
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,119
to me, and I was a little bit like. So

697
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,480
I said to hey, man, I'm going to take a run.

698
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,159
I said, maybe more than one, but I go, I'm

699
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:50,039
going to take a run, and he goes, all right, fine,

700
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,320
So I said, okay, you go sit in the lodge.

701
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,719
So he went in there and I went up and

702
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,559
I go, I'm just going to do an easy trail.

703
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:59,280
And the reason I want to do the easy trail

704
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,480
one I haven't been on skis in about about a

705
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:09,199
year and two years, two years, and prior to that

706
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,400
it had been many years. So these are now my

707
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,480
skis and last skis I were on. When I went

708
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,760
and I skied in another state. I rented, so I

709
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,360
wasn't bringing my own these. I got all tuned up

710
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,159
and I figured, well, it's fine, I could probably do

711
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:27,480
I'm definitely not doing Black Diamond, but so I go,

712
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,800
maybe I can talk to him again. And there's this

713
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,239
easy trail kind of goes around the side of the mountain.

714
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,880
I saw the map and I go perfect, and I'm

715
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,280
going down and I'm skiing, and I see a mom

716
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,360
and two kids go by, and it is sunny and

717
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,880
it is absolutely fucking gorgeous. I actually stopped at one

718
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,639
point and I reached in my pocket because I was

719
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:50,480
going to take a picture, and I went, oh, my god,

720
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,440
I don't know where my phone is.

721
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,159
Speaker 4: Oh that's yeah, that's nerve wracking.

722
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Nah. I figured maybe that's maybe that was the greatest gift,

723
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,039
that I'm not getting any deck. Come on, I want

724
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,320
to go. I don't know that that's happening, And actually

725
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,840
it wasn't. So I ski all the way down and

726
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
I'm like, god, I really would love to do another run.

727
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,159
That was such a nice run, and really, what are

728
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,840
you doing? It's like a probably if I stopped, I

729
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,280
think it took me five minutes to get to the

730
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,440
bottom of the mountain from the top if that, so,

731
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,239
I thought I could do one more. And then I'm like,

732
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,079
I should probably really find my phone. So I ski over,

733
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,280
get everything off, I find him and I go, hey, man,

734
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:34,239
I can't find my phone. He goes, what I said,

735
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,360
I can't find my phone. I said, maybe you can

736
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,719
use I. He goes, you don't share your location with me.

737
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,760
I said, oh, I thought I did. I don't know,

738
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:50,440
so I said to him, I think it's in the

739
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,719
rental place. We go in the rental place, he sees

740
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,519
my phone, he grabs it, and he goes to me.

741
00:39:54,920 --> 00:40:03,199
Apparently this is the safest place in America. So I

742
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,840
we pack up and we go home. So I got

743
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,320
one ski thing in for whatever the dollars right, And

744
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,599
I'm like, eh, go home. And I figure that's it.

745
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,239
No more like he's not going to do it. And

746
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,800
I had paid for the three days, and I his

747
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,920
mom had paid for the three days. And I thought, well, look,

748
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,679
I'm glad he tried it. And I said to him,

749
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,199
I'm you know, trying something new is tough. I said,

750
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:33,039
I know you think that. I'm I like force you

751
00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:35,800
into things, because that had come up. And I said,

752
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:42,000
here was my thinking. Sometimes we could talk about meditation

753
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,599
to people, and it's really hard to do if you're

754
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:48,280
not practicing it for a long period of time and

755
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,159
consistently doing it. And I said, but one of the

756
00:40:51,159 --> 00:40:56,199
things I always loved. And I realized at a fairly

757
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,960
young age that was when I was doing something that

758
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,320
maybe label an extreme sport or kind of on the edge,

759
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:05,559
whether it was drag racing a car, or or racing

760
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:10,519
around Watkins Glen or doing anything like that. You can't

761
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:13,880
think of anything else when you're going into like turn

762
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,239
one at Watkins Glen and trying to you know, you've

763
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,760
watched all the pros where they break, and you're going

764
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,440
to try to break late into it. You're not thinking

765
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,199
about the bills that are due, or the stress that's

766
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,400
on or the seventy five you just got on an assessment. Baby,

767
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,960
you know what I'm saying.

768
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: You're thinking about I got to make sure I got it.

769
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,519
Speaker 3: Or I will die or that.

770
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: But you're thinking, you're so like in lockdown, you're in

771
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:39,559
the moment you are. I don't think you're any more president.

772
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:42,639
And I really think like skiing or snowboarding in particular,

773
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,039
it's going to take a lot of your focus and

774
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,400
not allow any other thoughts in your head. And that

775
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:48,880
was sort of my thing, and I said that that's

776
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,559
why I thought it. So the next day I the

777
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:54,480
plan was that this mom was going to take him down.

778
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:58,800
She's in town and he gets up and he goes, yeah,

779
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,639
I'll do it, and I went okay. So he goes

780
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:07,559
back down and I get a video later on of

781
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:12,639
him skinned down a mountain. Oh, and I went hot, damn,

782
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:20,159
look at this. And I thought, resilience is one of

783
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:22,800
the things that I don't think we talk about enough

784
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,000
because just like the greade I got, now, right, it's

785
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:32,559
fallen off the conveyor belt. Right, you can make that

786
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:36,559
same analogy. And I know that, Okay, I'll look through

787
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:38,480
what I did wrong, and I'll go back and I'll

788
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,760
do it again. And that's just the way you do it,

789
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,360
and just like anything, it's wraps. So I was so

790
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,920
really really i'll say proud for him. I don't like

791
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,400
the proud of him kind of, but proud for him,

792
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,480
not about the skiing, but about the fact that together

793
00:42:55,599 --> 00:43:01,000
you were you did not want to be publicly embarrassed.

794
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,679
Even said to me. At times, especially with the snowboarding,

795
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:07,679
I felt like I saw kids my age laughing at

796
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,519
me from the chairlift. Maybe they were, maybe they were not,

797
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,199
I don't know, but in his mind it was. And

798
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,920
you know, grown men, grown men hate being bad at something.

799
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,159
Think of yourself. I'm not saying you, but but there's

800
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:28,400
plenty right you hate being bad at something right, it's frustrating.

801
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,400
I think golf for many guys is that right. They're

802
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,559
not great at it, and then they have a friend

803
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:35,559
who is pretty good at it, and it's like why

804
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:37,880
is this and they get frustrated, and guys lose their

805
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,760
fucking mind. Clubs get thrown like yes, I feel less

806
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,559
than yes one hundred percent one hundred percent. So that

807
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:48,880
was that was the thing. And then the other thing

808
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,840
that that kept coming to me was you know you

809
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,280
can quitting. It didn't really quit, you knew you had

810
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,599
hit your limit. And this is where I always think,

811
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:09,559
like you got to give kids to a certain degree,

812
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:14,199
at a certain age. He's fifteen, autonomy and let them

813
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,800
kind of leads you a little bit because I'm not

814
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,519
in that body and I'm not going to be the

815
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,119
dad and goes, come on, man, you know how much

816
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:24,480
I spec I don't. Yeah, that doesn't work. I got

817
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:26,880
that when I was I got it. Do you know

818
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:28,079
the money I spend?

819
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:29,679
Speaker 3: It's not motivation. That's manipulation.

820
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: Well it is, or it isn't, but it's also front.

821
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,960
It's a and I get it. It's a frustration. You

822
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,159
just laid out all the things you could have done

823
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,559
for you or your wife or whatever or the family

824
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,280
you loaded into this, and now somebody's just going I'm done,

825
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,760
and I because it's quitting and you can quit or

826
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920
he can regroup. Now he did say to me when

827
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,920
we got the skeis, he goes, I don't want to

828
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000
quit it anything, he goes. But that was really hard.

829
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:02,480
And I know snowboarding is hard, and I'm aware of it.

830
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,360
I've never done it, so but I've talked to people

831
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,079
like my cousin was a great skier, said, oh my god, snowboarding.

832
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,280
It's because it took me forever like to learn it.

833
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,239
And she lives in Park City. So I'm like, okay,

834
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,239
So I was really And then the other thing is

835
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:21,719
I think that we talk about building self esteem in

836
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:28,199
kids and how important that is, and to me, I

837
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,119
don't know how you exactly do that, because blowing sunshine

838
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:34,639
up a kid's ass is not building self esteem in

839
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:38,400
my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. Then what, well, it's not

840
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,840
that it's yes, okay to a certain to a certain point, yes,

841
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:45,119
but you know, telling the kid, hey, you can do this,

842
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,800
all that stuff is great. But on the other side,

843
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:52,239
it's when they do do it. How good they feel

844
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:57,079
that they conquered something that they challenge themselves. They knew

845
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,719
when to stop and at least, you know, my kid

846
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,280
and decided to go back. I thought that was like amazing,

847
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,760
and I said to him, I I so, then there's

848
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,039
a family group chat, and I think my mother writes

849
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,840
because I so his mom's down at this ski place yesterday.

850
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,519
I get a video of him skiing, and I said,

851
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,400
ask him if I can share this on the family chat.

852
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,840
I think it's great and he says yes. So I

853
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,960
put it in there and my mother goes so much

854
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,960
for the snowboard, so much snowboarding huh or something to

855
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,599
that effect. Oh so it's from of the snowboarding, and

856
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:33,840
I'm like, I don't think she even meant it. And

857
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,800
there's no tone, right yeah, So in my head it's

858
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,719
a snarky maybe a snarky or just kind of these

859
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,599
I hear my grandmother going, oh man, they didn't like

860
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:46,519
the snowboarding. Maybe that's okay, that's what I hear. So

861
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:51,519
I just write back, I'm really really happy and proud

862
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:56,159
for him because I'm really hoping this is a great

863
00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:02,159
lesson in resiliency doing hard things and a self esteem builder.

864
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:04,360
And then he says to me later, he goes, you know,

865
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,760
I'm on the group family group chat too, you know that,

866
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,639
And I forgot, but I don't say that. Damn. I go, yeah,

867
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:13,039
I know, I go, I would say these things to you.

868
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,920
I said, I do have a problem with that. So look,

869
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:21,079
I there's also a part where sometimes you can't be

870
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,119
coached by a parent. I didn't even get to really coach.

871
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,360
Don't forget the magic carpet took him out and that

872
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:30,480
was it, you know, And I think there too, he's

873
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,760
saying to me, why is that guy who's running the

874
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400
thing sitting on his cell phone? Shouldn't you help me?

875
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,400
I go, I don't know, so I go, this is

876
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,760
what happened to mean? Lifties like, that's what they are. Like.

877
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,800
I remember I was in park sitting and I was

878
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,000
debating on staying, and I thought I could get a

879
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:51,760
job at one of the ski resorts and somebody goes,

880
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,039
you'd be He goes, yeah, they'll they'll make you a

881
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,280
lifty at least, And you know, a lifties are usually

882
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,679
these burned out guys. They got great tands because they're

883
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:01,760
in the song an all fucking day reflecting off the snow.

884
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,559
They probably won't put anything in their face to have

885
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:06,719
melanoma by the time they're sixty. And uh, they just

886
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,760
sit there smoking dope and going man, put put put

887
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,480
the put thet put the thing down when you get

888
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:19,719
up there thing, yeah right, because they always say so. Uh.

889
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,440
I just thought that was fucking great. And I don't know,

890
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:27,239
sometimes you can't be coached by parents. So last night,

891
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,320
he says, he was really excited and he said to me,

892
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,719
can you and I go tomorrow? And I said yeah, yeah,

893
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,760
and he goes, no, no, I want to ski with

894
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,199
you tomorrow. And I said, okay, So I will.

895
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:46,039
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896
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932
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:29,679
first name is the same as a Major League baseball

933
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,480
well a professional Baseball Hall of Famer has the same

934
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:37,840
first name as him, and the professional Baseball Hall of

935
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,599
Famer's last name is Carter. What's his first name? Oh? Gary,

936
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:48,639
there you go. Come on, come on, Danny, you.

937
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:51,199
Speaker 4: Grew up with I know, I know, I know music.

938
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: I know he has a picture. I played this sof YouTube.

939
00:51:56,119 --> 00:51:59,639
He's got a picture of himself in front of Kmart.

940
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:07,039
Speaker 4: Saying Gary, I'm drinking dubble Stewart.

941
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: Oh, Gary Stewart, Gary Stewart. There's a warning. Children left

942
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,639
behind will be sold in the circus. This may have

943
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:19,960
been Gary Stewart's only hit. I don't know. I don't

944
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,719
even know if it was a hit. I found the

945
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,000
song amusing and relatable for many many people. I'm sure

946
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,719
I think that was the connection with country, right, Yeah,

947
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,920
they told the story. They were clever, and they were

948
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,039
clever and it was more.

949
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 3: Now it's formula. It's pretty formula.

950
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I think some of it. I think some of it.

951
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,440
I know, we call what is it now, bro country,

952
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,440
we call it or something like that, something like that. Yeah,

953
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,559
I think. I don't. I don't mind it at all,

954
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:49,280
some of the stuff. All right, So where I left

955
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,880
you was Jamison like, I'm not sure what's going to

956
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,920
happen here, right, I don't know where it's going to go.

957
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,800
Back out in the father tea, this is where it is.

958
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,559
And I thought, like the emotional recovery speed that this

959
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:08,920
kid made because he didn't want to embarrass himself, right

960
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:12,039
it was. He wasn't quitting forever. He was just quitting

961
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:15,480
for that day, regrouping and returning. And I go, boy,

962
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,239
there's lessons in that, like life lessons, because no matter what,

963
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,760
you could give up on something and you could get

964
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,760
defeated by it, or you can take it and go Okay,

965
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:29,519
I now know what to do. I now figured it out.

966
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,320
And he was there was a kind of a seasoned

967
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,159
I'll call him a ski instructor who just had a great,

968
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:39,599
big personality. And that's who he ended up with. And

969
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,280
I don't know what they did, but they they got him.

970
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,840
He said, I don't want to go back to the group.

971
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,519
Can I go with you? So we go down there

972
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:49,440
and it's raining today. It was raining the whole way

973
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,599
down in the morning. So we get there but it's

974
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:55,840
a light rain and he gets the skis. He's excited.

975
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,239
We go out, we were going, and we get and

976
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,800
he's telling me on the chairlift and the start yelling

977
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,320
at me because I didn't put the bar down. I

978
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,400
never had put the bar down the thing put the

979
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,880
thing do? I never put the bar down in these

980
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,559
but this was it was called the beginner hill, and

981
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,599
it's not a bunny hill by any stretch. It's actually

982
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:19,280
a nice run. And he had skied it, so I

983
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,599
kind of follow him down, did a great job. We

984
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:24,119
see the instructor. Instructor goes, hey, I just watched you.

985
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:26,960
You look like you've improved since yesterday. So guy's been

986
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,360
on skis once for a couple hours and he and

987
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,039
he figured it out, like I go, boy, I hope

988
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:36,159
that just shows you that. And I said to him

989
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:41,639
in a chairlift, this is like there's a difference between

990
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,920
quitting something and then regrouping on it. And I go,

991
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,760
I just hope you realize that no matter what you

992
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,800
want to do, you can do it. It may take

993
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,679
a day, may take it a little bit longer than

994
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,519
you want it to. It won't take that long, but

995
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:58,519
maybe longer than you wanted to. And I think, you know,

996
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:02,039
we can do this, so uh he did. He recalibrated,

997
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:07,079
and the man was he was skiing great. And then

998
00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:09,239
the rain let up for a little while and a

999
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,480
little granular or not bad. And then I said, I thought,

1000
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,840
we're going over to that. When he goes, do you,

1001
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,079
he goes, I'm not ready for that. So I said,

1002
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:18,599
all right. So we do the beginner one a couple

1003
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:20,119
of times and then he says to me, you want

1004
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:23,159
to go down there? And I said yeah, and I said,

1005
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:25,800
it's a nice trail. I said, it's an easy trail.

1006
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:33,440
We go down there, and I don't know. I sometimes

1007
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,159
I guess I don't know how to to parent. I

1008
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:42,280
don't even know. I just I figured we jump in.

1009
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,079
So we get on the chair left and we're going

1010
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,440
up the mountain and he goes, where is this And

1011
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,320
I said, well, we're going to go around the side.

1012
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,280
He goes, dat and he's looking down. These are black diamonds.

1013
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,840
I said, okay. He goes, I hate you. I said,

1014
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,360
I wouldn't put you in this situation. I don't think

1015
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,079
you can handle I said, I've been skiing with you

1016
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,840
now for almost an hour and a half. You have

1017
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,199
it down. You can handle this. I don't know. And

1018
00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:14,360
this is where it's like mind over matter at anything

1019
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,239
in life, because I always figure I'm going to get

1020
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,559
to the bottom of the hill and I'm not gonna fall.

1021
00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:24,320
I don't even think about that. I don't. Again, there's

1022
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,400
a difference between fifteen and confidence at fifty four or

1023
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,000
fifty five. It's just different. And it's not cockiness. It's

1024
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:33,599
just I just go I'm gonna do it. If I

1025
00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:36,159
don't do it, then that's on me. But still I

1026
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:38,199
don't think there's gonna be any I don't even let

1027
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,840
those thoughts enter my head. I'm going all day lining.

1028
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,079
I'm going this is going to be the best day

1029
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,639
ever because I get to spend time with him doing

1030
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:49,960
something that I've always enjoyed that he hasn't done. Oh

1031
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:52,719
this is fucking coolest shit man. Even if it's raining,

1032
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,960
who cares so? And there was hardly anybody there because

1033
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,000
of the rain, but they were still had their classes

1034
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,599
and stuff. So we're, you know, we're on that big

1035
00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:05,360
chairlift going to the top of the mountain and he's

1036
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,079
getting more and more in evers and I said to him,

1037
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:08,920
you can't think about it. You just got to do it.

1038
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,480
You just do it. And so there's more like, oh

1039
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,280
my god, Dad, look at and some kid, some kid

1040
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:22,400
does a spicctacular wipeout. I mean, it's a fucking yard sale, right,

1041
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,599
And he's like, oh my god. I said what he said?

1042
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:29,000
Did you see that I had? But I was pretending

1043
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:32,320
I hadn't. I go, oh, yeah, he's fine. I said,

1044
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,360
you're gonna be fine. And we're not going down that mountain.

1045
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,920
Where are we going? I go, relax. So we get

1046
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,559
up there and now and he said to me the

1047
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:42,039
first time he gets I have trouble getting off the chairlift.

1048
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:45,880
And I said, did I ever tell you? In Park City,

1049
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:48,960
I was twelve and I was with my cousin who

1050
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,440
was seven, and I said to her, as we got

1051
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,880
to the top, do you need help getting off the chairlift?

1052
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:57,280
And their chairlift's kind of booked in park City, right,

1053
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,199
and she said yes. So I went to kind of

1054
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,719
scoop her down, and she just hops down and skis off,

1055
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,599
and I'm still in the chair and it goes again.

1056
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:13,840
I'm stuck in the fucking thing, and the guy goes

1057
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:18,599
because now you're like, right, yeah, yeah, you're gonna have

1058
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:22,960
to ride all the way down. I felt like such

1059
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,320
a loser at twelve, So I get everything that Jamie's

1060
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:30,000
to say, right, So I'm like, okay, So I'm thinking,

1061
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,519
you've already used the resiliency muscle. You've come this far,

1062
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,559
You're gonna be fine. What I had noticed was like

1063
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,559
to go slow. If I'm gonna do old man skiing

1064
00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,639
on something, I'll just go, you know, across the mountain.

1065
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:47,519
And there was like nobody there, because a lot of

1066
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:50,239
times you kind of are in danger of you know,

1067
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,360
some hot dog coming down and taking me out like

1068
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,519
a bowling pin. Which I have been the hot dog

1069
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:58,000
who's taking somebody out like a bowling pin a catamount

1070
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,920
many many years ago. But that wasn't gonna happen, And

1071
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,119
so I figured we could just do some back. Well,

1072
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:06,239
what I'm not realizing is he's not confident enough really

1073
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,840
in his turning like that. He just kind of goes

1074
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,079
down and does little little bit. So he says to

1075
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,079
me when we get off, and he had said, I

1076
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:17,519
have trouble getting off these. He was doing beautifully on

1077
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:19,440
the other one. He did great on this one. And

1078
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,400
he looks and he goes, oh, is that where we're going?

1079
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,639
I said yeah. He goes, oh, this is great. I said, yes,

1080
00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:26,639
that's what I told you. So I want to give

1081
00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:29,480
him instruction. I'm like, let's stop here, let's stop here,

1082
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:33,719
let's regroup right so you can see what's coming, because

1083
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:40,320
it's a path you're not familiar with, what I said,

1084
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,480
I go, why don't. He's like, I got my I

1085
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,519
got my music in. I said, okay, So he's at

1086
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:52,000
this point, no, he said, and it's like he's excited, right,

1087
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:57,239
and so we he's he's like way ahead of me,

1088
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,960
and I'm just watching right to make and then he

1089
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,360
he starts picking up speed and I go, oh boy,

1090
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:05,800
and he's fine. We go round this nice turnout and

1091
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,119
now you've come to a point in the mountain where

1092
01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:10,679
you're gonna go down, and it's one of the places

1093
01:00:11,039 --> 01:00:14,599
that he thinks he can't just by looking at it,

1094
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,840
can't handle. And I'm saying bullshit to that idea. You

1095
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,480
can absolutely fucking handle that. And it's just a little

1096
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,199
bit down and then you're off the mountain, right, you

1097
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:28,320
get back on the chair lift. So but he never stops,

1098
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,599
like the whole time, he's just going right and it's

1099
01:00:31,639 --> 01:00:33,800
not necessarily he's not, you know, a little bit of

1100
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,599
a snowplow less less so than yesterday. Right, and he's

1101
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,599
seeing me and I'm not a great skier by any

1102
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:43,599
stretch of the imagination, but I can keep my skis

1103
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:45,800
together and you know, just do the stuff, and you know,

1104
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,440
I'll do a slide if I really wanted to. I

1105
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,159
could give you a big rooster tail like I used

1106
01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:50,519
to do to all my friends. And I can still

1107
01:00:50,519 --> 01:00:52,079
do it at fifty four to fifty five years old.

1108
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:57,320
That's fucking great. So we're a code down and he

1109
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,760
says something about to me as we get there, but

1110
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,280
he never stops like I want him to stop. And

1111
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,760
yet at the same time, I don't want to raise

1112
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,920
my voice and be like stop, you know, because it's

1113
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,280
gonna echoes her out, and I'll tell you a story

1114
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:16,960
about last night that happened. So we he goes down

1115
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,679
and he's going, and he's going, and all of a sudden,

1116
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,440
he's not going. And I don't know if he decided

1117
01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:26,519
that he didn't think he could handle the rest of

1118
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:28,440
the hill. It gets a little bit steep, but it's

1119
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,400
not that bad. And I kept saying to him, just

1120
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,719
go back and forth across. It's really easy. Just even

1121
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,440
if you have to, you know, go back. But he

1122
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,480
doesn't want to do because he's seeing kids his age.

1123
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:39,440
He doesn't want to do.

1124
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to look like.

1125
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to do the plow. And then he's

1126
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,159
got a friend of his who's sending him videos of

1127
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:51,760
him at Bristol doing flips off jumps or skiing backwards.

1128
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,079
And I go, okay, but he didn't start like that,

1129
01:01:55,159 --> 01:01:58,000
and you started yesterday. I don't let that in your head.

1130
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,719
The same thing with like Miya said, it is in

1131
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,480
my head now. I'm very upset. I have never gotten

1132
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,599
a grade that low in grad school. I am frustrated

1133
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:08,760
with that, but I can't let it get in my head.

1134
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,280
I got a regroup come back and go these were

1135
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:16,320
my mistakes. Boom, I'm back, baby. This is a tough class.

1136
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,719
But the same thing with him. So, man, I don't

1137
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:22,800
know if he wiped out or if he fell on purpose.

1138
01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:26,679
I have no idea. And I come skiing up and

1139
01:02:26,719 --> 01:02:28,760
I make sure I'm not spring any snow in him.

1140
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:34,280
So I stopped this way and I say I'm about

1141
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,000
to say, can I help you? And he goes, I

1142
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:43,679
am so angry at you. I hate you. And again

1143
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,840
it's because he had been doing so well right and

1144
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,039
now it feels like defeat, and I get it. And

1145
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,320
we could say it's male ego or whatever. There's nobody

1146
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,280
around to even see a fall. So I said, he goes,

1147
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,159
just just just leave me and go to the bottom,

1148
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,440
and I said, fine, So I did. So. Now I'm

1149
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,440
down there and I see him trying to get the

1150
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,199
skis on, and I want to yell up, go across

1151
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:14,119
the mountain to get your skis on. No, Now he

1152
01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:17,440
can't get him on. One bounces off, one starts to slide.

1153
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,400
He's like, I can see his feet go up. He's kicking,

1154
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:30,239
just mad and he uh, he's going it broke, it's broken. Okay,

1155
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:32,840
Now he's skiing with no polls today, so that was

1156
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,239
that was great. And I'm like, I, if I had

1157
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:40,400
this kid regress, I'm gonna feel awful because that was

1158
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,639
not the point of this. And you could and and

1159
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,679
I will argue that you could have handled this. So

1160
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,239
he is not happy. And we get to the bottom

1161
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:51,920
and he and he's yelling to me, I'm done, I'm done.

1162
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:56,679
We're going to the car, and I go, okay, I

1163
01:03:56,679 --> 01:04:03,519
I unfortunately have the same make up as you. Like.

1164
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:05,880
He's probably the most like me. And none of these

1165
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,000
guys are, you know. And by the way, they're all big.

1166
01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:12,440
So when you're big and you make noise, people notice

1167
01:04:12,639 --> 01:04:17,760
Jackson sixty seven, Jordan's not tall, but he's bulky and muscular.

1168
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,760
He's lifted, you know, he's a powerlifter. And then I've

1169
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,119
got Jamison, who is gonna probably be a very very

1170
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:26,119
tall guy. So I'm like, I don't wanna. I don't

1171
01:04:26,119 --> 01:04:27,840
want to do anything that's gonna embarrass you. I don't

1172
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,840
want you man. So he's just packed his skis up

1173
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,280
under his arm and he walks down right and he goes,

1174
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,280
I am so angry at you, And I said, okay,

1175
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,079
and he goes, you know, I'm going if I do

1176
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:41,639
this again, I'm going over there and if you stay

1177
01:04:41,639 --> 01:04:43,800
over here. I go, well, I wanted to ski with you. Well,

1178
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:49,760
I don't want to ski with you. I'm going come on, man.

1179
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,880
So I said, why don't we go inside? And I said, uh.

1180
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,119
He goes, what So now I'm behind? He goes, what

1181
01:04:56,119 --> 01:04:58,320
are you doing? I said, I'm gonna go in and

1182
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,760
have a hot chocolate that. Do you want one? He goes,

1183
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:06,000
I want nothing? Okay, And I get it right. It's

1184
01:05:06,159 --> 01:05:10,960
all the frustration I did it. There's something about adolescence

1185
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,920
and humiliation that just don't go together. And I will

1186
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,199
tell you, like, a public failure at fifteen is like catastrophic.

1187
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,840
It really is. You think everybody's noticed this.

1188
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 3: Everybody's watching you.

1189
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,519
Speaker 2: Oh, turning red?

1190
01:05:25,679 --> 01:05:27,519
Speaker 4: You want to crawl into a hole and die.

1191
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: Yes. And here's the other thing I think these kids.

1192
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,920
Maybe I'm wrong. I never asked this, but you're worried

1193
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,760
in the back of your mind someone has filmed you

1194
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,800
and you're gonna be going through reels someday and you're

1195
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,280
the loud Oh, you're gonna be the meme, you know

1196
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,480
what I mean? Or whatever nowadays. I mean, yeah, that's

1197
01:05:42,519 --> 01:05:44,920
something we didn't have to worry about. I just wonder

1198
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,159
if that's a real thought. I didn't ask, I didn't

1199
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:51,360
say anything. We go inside and uh, he's already sitting

1200
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,039
down by the time I get my skis off and

1201
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:56,800
get in there. And I say to him, I was

1202
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,719
gonna get hot talk that do you want one? And

1203
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:03,280
he's like, I'll have a coke. I said great, And

1204
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,840
then I'm thinking it is kind of warm and wet,

1205
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,920
and I don't really want to hot chocolate him more.

1206
01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:10,440
I'll have a coke too, So then I decide maybe

1207
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,440
he needs to eat. So we get chicken fingers and

1208
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,519
fries and he eating. We had eaten breakfast, so and

1209
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:22,039
then he finishes up and he goes, I'm sorry, and

1210
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:24,480
I said, you know have fathers. He says, no, how's

1211
01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:27,679
that a lie? I go, it's all right. We're trying

1212
01:06:27,719 --> 01:06:30,519
something new. I said, it's hard to try something new

1213
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:32,559
and you're out of your comfort zone. He goes, can

1214
01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:35,679
we go back to that other hill? And I said yeah.

1215
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,880
He goes, come on, you're gonna be mad. I said,

1216
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,400
I don't gonna be mad at all. I said, my

1217
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,599
whole thing is I want to do this to you,

1218
01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:43,760
And I said to him, And this is where I

1219
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,320
don't know where this evening really came from for me,

1220
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,079
because I did do a lot of cool things with

1221
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:52,440
my dad. But my dad, when we had gone to

1222
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,840
Park City when I was twelve, put on skis and

1223
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,679
was going toward the chair lift and slipped and fell

1224
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:02,599
and threw a fing it and started and yelled, screamed,

1225
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,039
I hate the sensation of sliding, and the skis were off,

1226
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,239
and he never put them on ever again. He spent

1227
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,719
the rest of the week that we were there in

1228
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,480
the lodge with my younger brother, who was about three

1229
01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:18,800
at the time, so he just played with him. That

1230
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:22,760
was it. And I never made anybody uncomfortable. I learned

1231
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,880
to ski. We did our whole thing. So I said

1232
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,199
to him, I go, I gotta tell you something, dude,

1233
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:32,159
this I am so happy to be doing something with

1234
01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:35,639
my son that my dad never did with me. Right. Yeah.

1235
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,039
And it wasn't like he didn't try. He took us

1236
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:40,960
to Park City, so I'd let let's start there. He

1237
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:44,320
just wasn't. He just was a skiing and that's fine.

1238
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,800
He knew what he wanted to do and I thought,

1239
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,440
you know, even in that bad weather, it was just bad.

1240
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,920
So then he says to me, uh, maybe we could

1241
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,599
go back. I could probably handle that hill. And I said, well,

1242
01:07:55,639 --> 01:07:57,239
if you want to, and he was like, do you

1243
01:07:57,239 --> 01:07:59,199
mind if we just keep doing this one. So now

1244
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:03,039
we're coming down and a guy comes tight and hits

1245
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:06,119
a jump that's along the side of the trail, and

1246
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:09,960
I see Jamison and I know me and I know

1247
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:12,639
my kid, and I go, he's going to try to

1248
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:15,639
do it, and he goes lining up and then I

1249
01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:20,439
can tell at the last minute a moment flashed, I

1250
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,680
can't do this, and it is so seriously in our

1251
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,399
head because I can see his whole body change from

1252
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,359
crouch skiing like he was going to nail this. I felt,

1253
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,119
or anyone's in the eye, or you're gonna And sure enough, boom,

1254
01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:39,359
he's like all over. And I said to him, he goes, ah,

1255
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,239
I tried to I said, I saw you did. I go,

1256
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,840
I know I know that whole feeling like that guy

1257
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,600
can do it, so can I. And then at the

1258
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,840
last minute he goes, maybe I can't, I should yeah,

1259
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,399
And so like you know, all of a sudden, now

1260
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,560
the skis aren't together. And then I said to him,

1261
01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:56,000
put him across the mount I know what I'm doing,

1262
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,199
and got him on skied down and the rest of

1263
01:08:58,199 --> 01:09:00,399
the day was great, and then it started to really

1264
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,239
rain and we decided to call it after that. But

1265
01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:07,520
it was like, you're rewriting a memory with the kid,

1266
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,399
and I thought that was it was pretty pretty uh,

1267
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,119
pretty freaking awesome. You know.

1268
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:15,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something you'll look back at, you'll laugh about it,

1269
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:17,680
you'll tell stories. But at the same time, you know,

1270
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,560
I mean, it's it's one of those things where, hey,

1271
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,920
you didn't quit. You you kept trying and trying, and

1272
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,840
that's that's part of growing up.

1273
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 2: Yes, forgive me, Yes, it is part of growing up.

1274
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,439
It's part part of life in general. I hope that

1275
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,640
when other things seem hard for you, no matter how

1276
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,600
frustrated you are, you know, when I've had my fil

1277
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,399
for today, but I'm not giving up on this. And

1278
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,520
I don't know what the difference was. I said to him,

1279
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,359
what was the difference between you? He goes, I don't know.

1280
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,159
I don't know, and then I then you start to go,

1281
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:51,880
maybe you shouldn't be your kids coach.

1282
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 3: Well, you just got seventy five of that says, I'm

1283
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,279
so upset that.

1284
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:57,520
Speaker 2: You don't even know.

1285
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 4: Ah, Well, it wasn't coaching. It was going through a

1286
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,319
life experience with them and letting them figure out, yes,

1287
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:08,159
they're failure right on their own, or as you've been

1288
01:10:08,199 --> 01:10:12,279
taught in your in your post college career. Now you

1289
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:14,239
got to sit with them in it. You got to

1290
01:10:14,279 --> 01:10:15,840
sit in the stall. Well, you got to sit in

1291
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,159
the suit. But I wasn't really even trying to do that.

1292
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: I was just letting you kind of figure this out,

1293
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:24,720
take your way through it. We've had a tough week ourselves.

1294
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,560
I think that you know, mom who's not normally around

1295
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,199
is around. I'm not saying that that's a please don't yeah,

1296
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:35,840
God forbid. It sounds like I'm saying something negative about that.

1297
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,000
I'm not. I'm just saying that it's another dynamic. I

1298
01:10:39,039 --> 01:10:42,199
think it plays on emotions and things, and it's hard

1299
01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:46,640
and and we've been doing more things together, and I

1300
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,680
think it's all been great. It's all been great. It's

1301
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,039
been a lot, but it's been great. And I don't know,

1302
01:10:52,359 --> 01:10:54,359
it's like, in a way, I go, it's sort of

1303
01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:57,760
like a generational repair. Here we are together doing something

1304
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,199
and I said to him, I'm really happy to you

1305
01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:01,640
do something that I love to do. And I go,

1306
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,319
I would love to do it more. And he's like, yeah,

1307
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,600
I'm good. I said, well, we can come back here,

1308
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,199
or we can go to some place. House goes, Let's

1309
01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:08,439
go to some place house. They said, you're not going

1310
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,600
to be familiar with the trails, so it may be

1311
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,399
a little bit just like, no, I think I can.

1312
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,520
I can do that, you know. And a lot of

1313
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:20,279
this is like you can see the masculine like, you know,

1314
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,439
fuck this shit, I'm not gonna embarrass myself in front

1315
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:28,439
of everybody. I totally can get that. And just the

1316
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,479
the identity of yourself figuring it out, and the strength

1317
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,159
you have to come back from that stuff, the recovery speed,

1318
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,039
and then just kind of a fatherhood moment. It was

1319
01:11:38,119 --> 01:11:39,359
nice and it was fucking great.

1320
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 4: The length of time that you have when you're younger,

1321
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:48,239
how the moment lasts longer. Like I remember being in

1322
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,680
like I remember being kindergarten, first grade, like, oh man,

1323
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,119
it's got to take forever to get the sixth grade.

1324
01:11:52,119 --> 01:11:54,319
Then you get the sixth grade, they're like, okay, well

1325
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:56,479
I got six more years of school, right, and then

1326
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,279
I'll get to my freshman Yeah, it's going to take

1327
01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:01,079
a while before I graduate. And those seem like those

1328
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:04,039
eighteen years took forever. Yes, it seems like. And then

1329
01:12:04,079 --> 01:12:06,720
but in there moments of embarrassment when you're growing up

1330
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,640
in your adolescence, you know, the life experience, you're dealing

1331
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,279
with hormones, and every moment seems to last twenty times

1332
01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:15,239
longer than it really does. And then when you get

1333
01:12:15,239 --> 01:12:17,560
to be older, you're like, yeah, whatever.

1334
01:12:17,079 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well embarrassment doesn't happen as much as forty five. Yeah,

1335
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,239
because even if you fail, you laugh it off yourself

1336
01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:25,520
or something or learn or you deal with it. But

1337
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,840
that's just it. And that was what I wanted. Embarrassment

1338
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,640
is not identity, no, right, It's a moment. The problem

1339
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:38,079
is that now embarrassment for some camera is not a moment.

1340
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:41,359
It becomes social media meme as you said, or something else,

1341
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,199
and that is like permanent humiliation versu a moment. And

1342
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,000
I think that that plays in a kid's head, you know.

1343
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:49,640
And I think there's a lot of times, you know,

1344
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,359
even as parents can try to protect kids from discomfort,

1345
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,239
and I think you kind of I don't know. I

1346
01:12:56,239 --> 01:12:58,000
don't know. I think you rob them of confidence when

1347
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,960
you do that, when you try to protect, protect, protect.

1348
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,000
I wasn't so much that way on my own. There

1349
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,359
were a lot of things I did, Like, you know,

1350
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,319
I wouldn't show up to certain things when the police

1351
01:13:09,319 --> 01:13:12,000
were there doing taking care of a potential bad guy,

1352
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:13,720
and all the parents were going to go running up

1353
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,520
so their kids would come out, and I kept going,

1354
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,479
I'm not going. I'm not going. It became a bone

1355
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,680
of contention. I go, I go, you are a piece

1356
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,119
of cholesterol in the way of professionals who are trying

1357
01:13:22,119 --> 01:13:23,960
to take care of a job. I go, But what

1358
01:13:24,039 --> 01:13:25,920
are the kids are going to think? I go, They're

1359
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,880
going to think nothing, because they all have little g I.

1360
01:13:29,039 --> 01:13:32,359
Joe things and the guns and it doesn't matter. And

1361
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,479
even if they are, we handle it when they get

1362
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,880
home and we just don't make a big deal about it, right.

1363
01:13:37,079 --> 01:13:41,079
And that wasn't good enough, because the whole street went

1364
01:13:41,279 --> 01:13:43,479
right up to school when this one thing happened, and

1365
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:48,079
I didn't go, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

1366
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,640
I don't know why I have that thing and that,

1367
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,119
and and for me, it's like learn to skin your

1368
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:55,720
knee on the playground and you figure it out. How

1369
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,439
many right, how many times I'll figure out. I think

1370
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,520
it's I think the timing on this is like almost divine.

1371
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,560
I get the grade that I've never gotten that low,

1372
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,760
and and and I will say every other professor is

1373
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,520
that she's one of the hardest ever. I had her

1374
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,720
last semester too, and I got progressively better with her.

1375
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:15,520
And even here she goes, I have every cop Yeah,

1376
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:20,199
I'm gonna get me fun Yeah, yeah, but I'm exactly

1377
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,039
It's just the same thing with skiing, and I go, boy, here,

1378
01:14:23,359 --> 01:14:26,279
I almost want to tell Jamison, hey, Bud, I did

1379
01:14:26,319 --> 01:14:29,720
something and I just I just fucking booted it on

1380
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:37,079
the carpet ride. I'm gonna come back, you know. And

1381
01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:40,880
I think also, like when you're dealing with a teenage kid,

1382
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,760
you can't respond to the anger moment. You got to

1383
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,640
listen to them, all right, because a lot of times

1384
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,840
we take like, don't talk to them, don't talk to

1385
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,800
me that way, And what does that do? This is

1386
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,199
like funny.

1387
01:14:50,279 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 4: I think my father realized that at a certain age.

1388
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,760
I think my grandmother got to him. She goes, have

1389
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,840
you met your kid? Have you met your son, and

1390
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,199
he's like, what do you mean? Because my father was

1391
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:00,880
one he was the youngest of but he was the

1392
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,119
alpha of the family, so he told everybody if. Finally,

1393
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:07,159
one time, my oldest uncle, his oldest brother, told me,

1394
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:08,800
you can't talk to your mother like that, because he

1395
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,640
would talk down to my grandmother, his mother like he

1396
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,359
knew better than she did. And finally she got through said, hey,

1397
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,479
have you met your son? The kid's never in trouble

1398
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,880
and you're worried about him going on in Halloween of

1399
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,359
all people you know. And I think at that point

1400
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,359
he kind of had an epiphany. He's like, yeah, maybe

1401
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,920
I don't have to be so hard now. He would

1402
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,000
put the fear of God in all of us. And

1403
01:15:28,079 --> 01:15:29,880
to the point where my brother Ryan, who listens to

1404
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,359
this podcast regularly down in Tampa, will tell you a

1405
01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:34,399
story which I told when I spoke in his graduation.

1406
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,439
He's a kindergarten and we were all naive kids, and

1407
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,000
some kid dared who was like, dare to pull that

1408
01:15:39,079 --> 01:15:41,319
fire alarm? So my brother Ryan doesn't know any better.

1409
01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:43,600
He goes, Okay, well what's that and he pulls it?

1410
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:47,399
And now our school K through twelve was all connected,

1411
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,000
so the whole building got the fire alarm, and it

1412
01:15:52,039 --> 01:15:53,840
was like around two point fifteen. The high school got

1413
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,640
out of two thirty two at that point. Now it's

1414
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,319
like two fifteen they get out. Well, so the entire

1415
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,560
school's getting out, and even the principles like, do we

1416
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,640
have a fire because it wasn't scheduled. The fire trucks

1417
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,880
are showing up at the school, right, so we're all like, ah, yeah, whatever.

1418
01:16:09,399 --> 01:16:13,239
So I get home from school afterwards, my father goes,

1419
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,760
your brother's got you beat because I was called nine

1420
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,520
one one looking for my father because he came home

1421
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,600
late from church and I couldn't.

1422
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: We didn't know where he was.

1423
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 4: And well, my brother had pulled the fire alarm and

1424
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,319
he's got blue ink all over his home because it

1425
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:28,600
marks you when you pull it if you're pulling a prank.

1426
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,159
So we're thinking that the principal got in his face,

1427
01:16:32,199 --> 01:16:33,800
and then he goes, I think I called my fight.

1428
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,800
I think I might have scare him, So listen, don't

1429
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:36,800
don't get angry with him.

1430
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,039
Speaker 3: He got dared by a kid.

1431
01:16:38,079 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 4: It was an accident, but he's probably a nervous wreck

1432
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,279
when he gets home. He's probably has he so you know,

1433
01:16:43,319 --> 01:16:44,680
if you want to bring it up to him or whatever.

1434
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,840
He's like coaching my father. My father gets a kick

1435
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,600
out of this. He's laughing and he's come a long way.

1436
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,840
But my brother Ryan had always seen him be like

1437
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,199
a big Jurassic Park dinosaur when he got angry. So

1438
01:16:54,239 --> 01:16:56,159
he's coming home, said, I got pigs and needles.

1439
01:16:56,279 --> 01:16:57,399
Speaker 3: We'll get to the dinner table.

1440
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: Fabaly goes, Okay, don't say nothing. Don't say nothing.

1441
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 3: Okay, Hey Ryan, you know I was school today.

1442
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 4: I didn't mean it didn't mean.

1443
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 3: What Ryan, what's the matter. We're like giggling.

1444
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: I kind dared.

1445
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 2: The principal. Yeah.

1446
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 4: My dad's starts laughing. They realize this is so stupid.

1447
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,079
This is just the poor little kid got dared.

1448
01:17:24,119 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: They didn't know it better.

1449
01:17:25,279 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 2: I know. It's so funny kids still do that. Because

1450
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,119
we're in We're on one chair lift and I hear

1451
01:17:31,239 --> 01:17:37,600
this little kid voice yelling, hey you guys, hey guys, hey,

1452
01:17:38,399 --> 01:17:41,600
truth or dare I have no idea? They're talking to

1453
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,520
me and Jamison. It's this little girl who's going to

1454
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,119
the top of the mountain. We were going on some

1455
01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:48,479
other trail and she's yelling to us truth or dare

1456
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,039
truth dare? So Jameson goes dare and she goes, I

1457
01:17:51,159 --> 01:17:57,640
dare you to jump off the chairlift. James's like, Okay,

1458
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,640
I don't know, dude. I The only thing I would

1459
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,000
say to anybody is confidence isn't the absence of falling

1460
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:12,479
or failing. It is deciding that the fall or the

1461
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,319
failure was not the end of you. And I think

1462
01:18:15,359 --> 01:18:18,039
that's probably the greatest thing. And I hope he learned

1463
01:18:18,039 --> 01:18:19,920
a lesson in that today. And I think everybody once

1464
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,239
in a while you can take a step back and

1465
01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:24,000
go yeah, and it's you know, it wasn't about skiing.

1466
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:27,079
It was about to me building that confidence and happened

1467
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,560
the father son time, and I think that I'm hoping

1468
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,399
it connected with him. And we have not had a

1469
01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:36,039
not had a great week, but we had a week.

1470
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:37,039
So there you go.

1471
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,199
Speaker 4: Will uh will those teachable moments?

1472
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,119
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I would say that that's what it was us.

1473
01:18:42,039 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 4: That for your assessment.

1474
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,359
Speaker 3: Mmmm, here's what I learned today for extra credit.

1475
01:18:47,359 --> 01:18:49,520
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm doing I don't think I'm doing

1476
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,640
as good this semester. No, No, I don't.

1477
01:18:54,079 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 3: Why do you think that is? I put on my

1478
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,119
tweet jacket and help you out. I coach for about ten.

1479
01:19:01,159 --> 01:19:05,520
Speaker 2: I know, I know we make fun of that. Did

1480
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:10,119
you really Yeah? Yeah, behind your back. Of course we did.

1481
01:19:10,399 --> 01:19:12,520
I'm sure you did. Yeah, me and Tommy.

1482
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh god, I'm sure you got hours out of

1483
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:15,600
that hours.

1484
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: We didn't do it. I don't think we did it

1485
01:19:17,079 --> 01:19:17,520
on air.

1486
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't on air, No, because it started after

1487
01:19:20,039 --> 01:19:20,520
you left.

1488
01:19:21,399 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 2: Oh so we used to text each other. Yeah, I

1489
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,680
think there was a suicide and as it's and one

1490
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,680
of us would text the other going. I think it

1491
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:37,359
was one of the We would do that all the

1492
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,520
time though about anything.

1493
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,119
Speaker 4: I know, but that was Yeah, that's just how that's

1494
01:19:41,319 --> 01:19:41,840
how it was.

1495
01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:48,079
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I think it was. Uh, that's funny. No,

1496
01:19:48,119 --> 01:19:52,840
I don't think I'm doing as well this semester I have.

1497
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:56,800
I think it's I gotta do the proverbial lock in.

1498
01:19:58,119 --> 01:20:00,680
I'm behind in some assignments. I I think that I

1499
01:20:01,079 --> 01:20:04,079
haven't been giving things the time they need, and I

1500
01:20:04,119 --> 01:20:08,800
think that that you're at a more critical point. I

1501
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:13,720
can do a lot of the stuff pretty well, but

1502
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,439
there's nuances to it. And I keep saying in one class,

1503
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,520
and I think it's pissing the professor off because a

1504
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,239
it's a therapy session, it's more group. And I said

1505
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,520
one day when they were going around, after this guy

1506
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,000
did his he led the group and then everybody takes

1507
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,600
a break and comes back and we debrief how did

1508
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:36,079
he do right? And there's a lot of self assessment

1509
01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:39,039
in being a counselor, which has been not easy for

1510
01:20:39,079 --> 01:20:43,479
me to go back and dig through shit. And I

1511
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,720
said one of because there was like little things. I go,

1512
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,119
if you're so into the formatics in your head, you're

1513
01:20:50,119 --> 01:20:52,600
going to be checking off boxes and not bringing yourself

1514
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,279
to the session. And I think that's more important. And

1515
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,159
the professor goes, oh, well, yep, yep. I mean that's

1516
01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:02,399
the art, right, trying to bring you into the formatics.

1517
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,000
Then it was I was presenting this week, but I

1518
01:21:06,119 --> 01:21:08,319
was they had us in teams. This guy went solo,

1519
01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:12,000
so I'm in a team with somebody, and I don't

1520
01:21:12,039 --> 01:21:14,520
think we did as well. I mean I don't think

1521
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,760
if you were watching it you would know, but we

1522
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,439
didn't hit a lot of the formatics, and I think

1523
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,199
that's gonna ding us. And then the other thing I

1524
01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:25,239
thought was if I knew it all, I wouldn't be here, right,

1525
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,920
So I'm not going to beat myself up. We're still

1526
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,960
early in the semester, but I'm not fucking this up.

1527
01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:36,479
So I will be uh yeah, my weekend is going

1528
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,479
to be uh. After I blow out mccolon and get

1529
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,199
that done, I will be just locked in and unfortunately

1530
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,960
just working. But it's been a week, my brother, it

1531
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,960
has been a week. We'll take a moment and we'll

1532
01:21:50,039 --> 01:21:53,439
lighten it up. We'll find something lighter and happier to do. Dan,

1533
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,640
all right, let's do it. No wiping out on the

1534
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,319
magic carpet ride right after this. If the new year

1535
01:21:58,359 --> 01:22:00,880
has you saying I did not sign up for this,

1536
01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:05,000
like a worker's comp case, social security disability, or a

1537
01:22:05,039 --> 01:22:08,560
personal injury claim, don't try to google lawyer your way

1538
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,359
through it. Go to Connors and Ferris. They have offices

1539
01:22:12,399 --> 01:22:16,720
in Buffalo, New York City, Syracuse, and Rochester, and they'll

1540
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,159
get back to you within twenty four hours. Yeah, so

1541
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,319
even when you're stress scrolling at two am, you can

1542
01:22:23,359 --> 01:22:25,840
call two six to two comp, tell them a little

1543
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,720
bit about what's going on in your life, and within

1544
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,680
twenty four hours, one of their attorneys will get back

1545
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,600
to you. You'll talk to real lawyers who will explain

1546
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,279
things in plain English, not legal mumbo jumbo workers, comp

1547
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:44,279
social security, disability, personal injury complicated. Absolutely something you should

1548
01:22:44,279 --> 01:22:49,600
handle a loon. Nope, Connors and Ferris experienced, responsive and

1549
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,720
committed to serving. You better call two six' to two

1550
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,439
comp helps available right?

1551
01:22:55,479 --> 01:23:28,359
Speaker 5: Now what.

1552
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: Does he say full stop in?

1553
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 3: THERE i don't know WHAT i.

1554
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 6: Got full stop could BE i don't. Know, yah, huge

1555
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:35,119
that's right.

1556
01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:37,239
Speaker 2: Baby have you been watching The?

1557
01:23:37,319 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 4: Olympics by the, Way i've tried to watch a little

1558
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,439
watch a little bit of the hockey On, sunday though about.

1559
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,399
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i haven't watched like really much at. All

1560
01:23:45,039 --> 01:23:47,399
and THEN i was talking to somebody those days and they,

1561
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,359
Go Lindsey, vaughan what is she doing out there with

1562
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,520
a Torn she tore a cl and then.

1563
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 4: She was she was attempting to. Comeback she was skiing

1564
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,039
and she's qualified for The. Olympics, yeah she.

1565
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 2: Was at The olympics and she, Yes and then she

1566
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,920
was coming down and it looked like her poll clipped the.

1567
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,239
Gate could that be because of the torn AC i

1568
01:24:06,359 --> 01:24:08,640
not being able to keep the. BALANCE i don't, know

1569
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:09,520
BUT i, SAID.

1570
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 4: I gotta give her credit for going out. There well

1571
01:24:14,039 --> 01:24:16,920
here because right now her one leg looks like it get, like,

1572
01:24:17,159 --> 01:24:18,640
uh it's like satellite.

1573
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,520
Speaker 3: TELEVISION i, KNOW i saw.

1574
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,359
Speaker 2: That. Uh these are things that did not bring up

1575
01:24:24,359 --> 01:24:26,880
to my, son The White, squam BECAUSE i feel like

1576
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,680
my knees are buckling a little, bit, Like, oh, no you're,

1577
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:33,640
Fine they're. Fine let's not let's talk. That she's forty,

1578
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,840
one probably her Last. Olympics oh, yes, see after he,

1579
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:42,079
Happens i'm going forward. Anyway, YEAH i want to know

1580
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:46,279
that IF i go, OUT i went out giving it my,

1581
01:24:46,359 --> 01:24:49,760
all EVERYTHING i, had and she. Did unfortunately she. Did.

1582
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,039
Speaker 4: Yeah the thing is the thing that really stunk FOR

1583
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:54,920
nbc And peacock was she was the face of The

1584
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,640
olympics Because america doesn't collectively watch. Hockey, right you can,

1585
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:02,119
mark you can march the ten best KNOWN nhl players

1586
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:05,319
through this, room and Maybe kevin might know a few of,

1587
01:25:05,359 --> 01:25:08,439
them BUT i mean like they're not they're not like

1588
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,399
like it's not like baseball or basketball or. Football everybody

1589
01:25:11,399 --> 01:25:13,279
knows what these guys look. Like she was the face

1590
01:25:13,319 --> 01:25:18,000
because nobody knew anybody else But Lindsay, Vaughn yvonne Hot

1591
01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:22,479
chick skied, right that's exactly WHAT i remember when she was. Here, Yeah,

1592
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:28,680
tiger she looked that. Good but REMEMBER i said to,

1593
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,520
YOU i got a picture of my. PHONE i, said

1594
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,479
she doesn't look that, hot and you, said are you kidding?

1595
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,000
ME i, go you, KNOW i don't think. SO i

1596
01:25:37,239 --> 01:25:37,920
look at the scar on her.

1597
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:43,039
Speaker 2: Knees is how he? Say, well, yeah she probably got

1598
01:25:43,079 --> 01:25:47,399
what you Know tiger was about in terms of focus and.

1599
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,960
Determination and you know WHAT i, MEAN i don't.

1600
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 4: KNOW i Told, ELAN i, said, look you, know you're

1601
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,680
the best thing that happened to.

1602
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 3: Me lindsay showed.

1603
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: UP i did tell. So on the way, back news

1604
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:10,039
broke of a really tragic thing that happened In Lake.

1605
01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:13,680
Tahoe there was an. Avalanche eight people died and one

1606
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,560
is still. Missing skiers AND i don't know if they

1607
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,039
were hell skiing or. Not are you familiar with hell?

1608
01:26:22,079 --> 01:26:26,279
Skiing Chapter, Yeah and it's usually in the. Outback it's

1609
01:26:26,319 --> 01:26:29,119
not on groom. Trails you don't really know what you're going,

1610
01:26:29,159 --> 01:26:33,439
over and you go with an avalanche. Pack so if

1611
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,640
you hit an, avalanche you pull this. Thing it's almost

1612
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,720
like A i think it's like a parachute that can

1613
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:39,920
kind of come and cover you and try to give

1614
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,359
you space as the snow covers you and you have

1615
01:26:43,399 --> 01:26:46,079
a light or a beacon or something that or radio

1616
01:26:46,079 --> 01:26:47,840
APP i don't know that they can. Find i'm not

1617
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,720
all that. FAMILIAR i GUESS i should look up what's

1618
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,399
in an avalanche. PACK i have a computer right in

1619
01:26:51,399 --> 01:26:54,680
front of. Me but, yeah eight people are confirmed, dead

1620
01:26:55,319 --> 01:26:59,680
with one more skier still. Missing horrific avalanche just outside

1621
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:09,159
of and one man and five. Women. Yeah. Yeah Sheriff

1622
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:17,239
Shannon moon said the avalanche four travel guys and eleven

1623
01:27:17,279 --> 01:27:20,439
guests were caught in the. Avalanche among the, fifteen six

1624
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,600
had been. Rescued one man in five, women ages thirty

1625
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,359
to fifty. FIVE i don't know where they. Were moon.

1626
01:27:27,399 --> 01:27:29,920
Said eight of the remaining nine are confirmed dead and

1627
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:35,960
one is still. Missing. Yeah the tour group initially contained

1628
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,800
twelve clients and four, guides but one client decided to

1629
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,800
back out of the trip at the last. Minute, man

1630
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,399
how about? It, no but how about if you're that

1631
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,800
guy or that, woman how about if you're one of that, person.

1632
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,279
Speaker 4: You got to be incredibly grateful and incredibly.

1633
01:27:50,279 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: Guilty yeah, Right it's like HOW i, mean oh my,

1634
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,680
GOD i lost eight of my. Friends unless it was

1635
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,239
random people joined in tour guy and, go, Oh i'm

1636
01:28:01,239 --> 01:28:01,960
glad that.

1637
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 4: These had to be people of means to do something

1638
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:05,840
like this typically is.

1639
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,520
Speaker 2: Case, no, no, No but hang on a, second are they

1640
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:10,920
do they deserve to? Die?

1641
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:11,560
Speaker 4: Oh not at.

1642
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 3: All that's not What i'm. Saying what do you think?

1643
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:13,359
Speaker 2: Of? Mayor? Mom?

1644
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 4: Donnie?

1645
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: No?

1646
01:28:14,279 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: Ah, okay oh, gosh all.

1647
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1648
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 4: No but the point, is, though is that What i'm

1649
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,880
trying to say is that people with money tend to

1650
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,199
take more risks and do stuff like.

1651
01:28:25,279 --> 01:28:29,159
Speaker 2: This, WELL i don't know what they were, doing uh

1652
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,720
found after the correspondent with the first respondents using iPhones

1653
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:37,239
sos feature rescue or searching for the nine missing skiers

1654
01:28:37,279 --> 01:28:40,680
were hamstrung in the search efforts On wednesday morning after

1655
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,159
the area was slammed with nearly two feet of. Snow

1656
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,359
i'm trying to see, though if these, GUYS i don't

1657
01:28:47,359 --> 01:28:49,159
know what kind of skiing they were. Doing And i'm

1658
01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:52,359
sorry That i'm finding this out as we record. This.

1659
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:56,439
UH a video showed a tour guide From Blackbird Mountain

1660
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:01,119
GUIDES uh sifting through snow with his hands to try

1661
01:29:01,119 --> 01:29:04,760
to find. People, oh that's. Lovely the avalanche swept down

1662
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,319
an elevation of roughly eighty two hundred feet Near Frog.

1663
01:29:08,399 --> 01:29:10,079
Speaker 3: Lake is there a way to?

1664
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 4: TEST i, MEAN i wouldn't, Know so this is gonna

1665
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,039
sound like it's such an ignorant.

1666
01:29:14,119 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: QUESTION i can't.

1667
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 4: Wait is there a way to test whether or not

1668
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:17,680
something you're gonna have an?

1669
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:23,079
Speaker 2: Avalanche sometimes they, if sometimes they, know LIKE i. DON'T

1670
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,800
i think you can do like a seismic. GRID i

1671
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,039
don't like if you go play pond.

1672
01:29:27,039 --> 01:29:29,239
Speaker 4: Hockey growing up In, canada you know when it's safe

1673
01:29:29,239 --> 01:29:31,399
to go out of the ice and play what is

1674
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,560
In SO i guess my question, is you, know does

1675
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,520
somebody sneeze hear about this all the?

1676
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: Time god damn, It, CHARLIE i told you to take

1677
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:41,960
your fucking allergy. Medicine. Wrong.

1678
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:48,039
Speaker 4: Wrong it's funny BECAUSE i had all, Right adam possible,

1679
01:29:48,079 --> 01:29:50,960
candidate LIKE i haven't heard from two days and he

1680
01:29:51,119 --> 01:29:53,000
just Said i'm going on a seeing trip In Lake.

1681
01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:56,119
Speaker 3: Taho i'm not making that. Up i'm, like, oh NOW

1682
01:29:56,199 --> 01:29:57,079
i KNOW i haven't heard from.

1683
01:29:57,119 --> 01:29:59,119
Speaker 2: Him, well maybe MAYBE i haven't heard from him because,

1684
01:29:59,239 --> 01:30:02,479
uh there was an. Avalanche an avalanche kit contains three

1685
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:08,640
essentials three essential mandatory items for backcountry. Travel so this

1686
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,720
is What i'm. Saying if you do hell, skiing they

1687
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,880
usually make you have. This an avalanche. Transceiver it's a

1688
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:20,840
beacon to emit and receive, signals a collapsible probe to

1689
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,560
pinpoint burial depth so you can say how far down

1690
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,680
under the SNOW i. Am and a sturdy metal shovel

1691
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,359
to start digging out victims of the avalanche or. Yourself

1692
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,159
other critical items include an avalanche air bag. Pack that's

1693
01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:36,880
the THING i, said is like a. Parachute it's like

1694
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,640
an air. Bag, yeah and it kind. Of and satellite

1695
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:45,079
communication device and first aid. Kit. YEAH i want to

1696
01:30:45,119 --> 01:30:50,279
see the avalanche air bag pack BECAUSE i remember hearing

1697
01:30:50,359 --> 01:30:54,359
about this AND i know it's saved people in the. Past,

1698
01:30:55,880 --> 01:31:00,279
yeah an avalanche it's. Okay an integrated deployable bone bone

1699
01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:05,039
system designed to keep the user on the. Surface. Ah

1700
01:31:05,079 --> 01:31:07,439
SO i thought it was something that covered you and

1701
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,000
then the snow went over to. You but you had

1702
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,520
a bubble in there and you breathe in and, right

1703
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,520
but you can't because you'll run out of the air down, there.

1704
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,039
Right so, yeah balloon systems designed to keep the user

1705
01:31:18,119 --> 01:31:22,079
on the surface of an, avalanche along with specialized compartments

1706
01:31:22,079 --> 01:31:25,359
for safety. Gear so basically it's like a. Raft it's

1707
01:31:25,399 --> 01:31:27,600
like a it's a sled that just keeps you buoyant.

1708
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,520
Above holy, shit you, KNOW i would do a lot

1709
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:33,840
of dumb. Things i'm not dumb THAT i like to

1710
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,880
do a lot of edgy, things fun. Things i'm not

1711
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,479
sure IF i would do that. ONE i don't have

1712
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,239
confidence in my skills right to do. THAT i, MEAN

1713
01:31:43,319 --> 01:31:45,039
i did a beginner hill all day today with my,

1714
01:31:45,159 --> 01:31:50,199
son SO i don't. Think BUT i know a dentist

1715
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,239
who is more of an acquaintance of, mind and every

1716
01:31:53,319 --> 01:31:55,560
year he goes out in hell skis where they give

1717
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,680
on a. Helicopter they drop you, off and you were

1718
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:01,760
skiing the back. Country basically it's not groom, trails and

1719
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,039
sometimes you fall off like you can't really tell what's

1720
01:32:05,039 --> 01:32:09,520
there because it's covered in two to six feet of.

1721
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,079
Snow and so where there's a cliff and it goes

1722
01:32:12,119 --> 01:32:14,239
down like what looks like it could be a lot

1723
01:32:14,319 --> 01:32:18,359
of great, powder you sink into and there's guys they

1724
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,119
die with this. Shit SO i don't know if that's

1725
01:32:20,119 --> 01:32:22,359
what these people were, doing that's What I'M i was

1726
01:32:22,399 --> 01:32:27,119
trying to find out because that then you kind of, go,

1727
01:32:27,239 --> 01:32:29,039
well you're, right, yes you do have to be a

1728
01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:31,520
means for. That you have to be a means to

1729
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,800
be Skiing Lake, tahoe, Right Skiing Lake tahoe for a

1730
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,359
week is probably a couple grand to just ski just

1731
01:32:38,359 --> 01:32:41,960
for your path unless a lot of times these resorts

1732
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,840
will do things like you're a, member you have a

1733
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:48,479
season pass to a resort on The East, coast and

1734
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,600
there also would allow you to use your season pass

1735
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,680
to go Ski Park, City, aspen you, know all these other.

1736
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,319
Speaker 4: Places to The Colorado, avalanche you have to change their

1737
01:32:58,399 --> 01:33:01,520
name for a game to The oh my, god The

1738
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:02,720
colorado on the.

1739
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:08,119
Speaker 2: Morning oh my, GOD i totally forgot about. THAT i

1740
01:33:08,159 --> 01:33:10,479
wonder if they will, no, no BUT i wonder if

1741
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:11,920
they're just going to be a push to chase the.

1742
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 3: Day oh we just not mentioned the name of THE tv.

1743
01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 2: At crazy the. Tour, Yeah i'm dying to, know because

1744
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,399
when you have a tour guide and, stuff this sounds

1745
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:25,199
like outback, skiing and yes it. Does it costs a

1746
01:33:25,239 --> 01:33:29,399
lot of. Money, yeah let's, SEE i WISH i. Could,

1747
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,720
UH i want to see how much do you think

1748
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,399
a trip like this Costs we'll.

1749
01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 4: Say about ten thousand dollars a person.

1750
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 2: Ski trip To Lake tao with tour.

1751
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 4: Guides because this sounds like, somebody this sounds, like, okay so.

1752
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: This Is i'm. Sorry LAKE tafa offers various options with,

1753
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,279
guides ranging from backcountry expeditions with a professional. Guide they

1754
01:33:57,279 --> 01:33:59,479
had four. Guides that's exactly WHAT i think they were

1755
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:03,880
doing to free on mountain naturalist. Stores that's not what

1756
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,760
we're talking. About so we want the back country.

1757
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 4: Actual retail price of the showcase is is all?

1758
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:20,119
Speaker 2: Right all? Right how much do you? Think so a

1759
01:34:20,199 --> 01:34:25,760
week long guided backcountry ski trip To Lake tahoe costs

1760
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,960
between you can give me anywhere between the low end

1761
01:34:29,039 --> 01:34:31,760
and the high end per. Person i'm gonna say heavily

1762
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:37,279
dependent on group, size, accommodation, luxury and the number of guided.

1763
01:34:37,399 --> 01:34:40,960
Days so if they had like a really great house

1764
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:46,079
that they airbat and bead, Plus.

1765
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,359
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see between eight and twenty thousand.

1766
01:34:46,359 --> 01:34:51,199
Speaker 2: Dollars, no they're saying here fifteen hundred to four grand per.

1767
01:34:51,239 --> 01:34:54,800
Person oh, wow, okay, right but then a daily private, Guy.

1768
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,199
Speaker 3: Well that's What i'm, Thinking, like if it's by the

1769
01:34:56,319 --> 01:34:57,159
day range.

1770
01:34:57,239 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 2: House, yeah two hundred to six hundred board per person with,

1771
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:06,319
accommodations so fifteen to four thousand for The oh, no

1772
01:35:06,319 --> 01:35:10,039
they're saying a guy, That, yeah budget, budget mid high,

1773
01:35:10,159 --> 01:35:12,880
end three thousand to forty five, hundred private, cabin daily,

1774
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:19,239
guide rental, gear dining. Out, yeah that's, okay not as

1775
01:35:19,279 --> 01:35:21,439
bad AS i. Thought what do you?

1776
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,279
Speaker 4: Do but the reason WHY i thought they'd have means

1777
01:35:23,279 --> 01:35:25,359
is because they're getting into a helicopter and being.

1778
01:35:25,399 --> 01:35:28,199
Speaker 2: Dropped that's. DIFFERENT i think this is. BACKCOUNTRY i think

1779
01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:31,760
this may be more like you could be, teleporting not

1780
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,039
teleporting what do they call? It when you kind of

1781
01:35:34,119 --> 01:35:36,520
it's almost like cross country skis people use on, downhill

1782
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,840
but they're not exactly the same, kind and you do

1783
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,159
deep knee bends and it's not. Teleble i'm saying the wrong.

1784
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:49,399
Thing my week, ANYWAY i don't, Know, uh you know

1785
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,159
what it. Is it's the lies we tell ourselves as.

1786
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:54,079
ADULTS i can still handle.

1787
01:35:54,119 --> 01:35:55,119
Speaker 4: THIS i could do.

1788
01:35:55,159 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 3: This the mind says go and the body says.

1789
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: No, WELL i don't know if. THAT i don't know

1790
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,680
if that's really the case or. Not BUT i was

1791
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:05,279
thinking about that a lot with things because at some

1792
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,840
age we become professional negotiators with, ourselves Like i'll only

1793
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,680
have one more and Then i'm gonna go.

1794
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 4: Home, Now, yeah it's in pulp fiction before od's, yes all,

1795
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:18,600
right here's What i'm gonna.

1796
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:19,079
Speaker 3: Do we go in the.

1797
01:36:19,079 --> 01:36:22,359
Speaker 2: Bathroom, yeah OR i don't NEED. GPS i know exactly,

1798
01:36:22,359 --> 01:36:24,119
WHERE i know. WHAT i don't know What i'm. Doing

1799
01:36:24,359 --> 01:36:28,439
i'll Start. Monday i'm gonna Start, monday, man and, uh you,

1800
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:32,439
know or the one last, episode just one last episode

1801
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,159
and then we're done for the. Day we're not gonna watch,

1802
01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:39,279
anymore going to bed AND i. Go adulthood is just

1803
01:36:39,399 --> 01:36:42,239
managing the stories we tell. Ourselves that's really all it.

1804
01:36:42,279 --> 01:36:44,960
Is you. Know it's Not malicia's. Lies it's just, yeah it's.

1805
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,600
Stories it's, microlies micro. Lies if we all do, THAT

1806
01:36:50,039 --> 01:36:52,600
i don't, know it's, funny BUT i think it's also

1807
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:57,479
very identifiable for people BECAUSE I i feel LIKE i

1808
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,840
do that all the. Time we all do it to

1809
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:03,199
go siate with. MYSELF i, mean it's almost like self.

1810
01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:06,319
Deception that's that's what the Show The sopranos is all.

1811
01:37:06,359 --> 01:37:09,319
About How americans lie to themselves on a regular basis

1812
01:37:09,319 --> 01:37:12,479
to protect whatever the thought is in their mind that

1813
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,880
gives them this feeling of everything's, Okay i'm doing everything.

1814
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:18,560
RIGHT i. Know you know WHAT i. SAY i think.

1815
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,680
TOO i think we lie more to ourselves than then

1816
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,399
we do other. People, whyeah of course we. Do why, though.

1817
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 4: Because we know, that we know the, limits we know the,

1818
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,279
Mistakes we've been able to live through.

1819
01:37:29,279 --> 01:37:30,159
Speaker 3: It we've gotten used to.

1820
01:37:30,199 --> 01:37:34,359
Speaker 4: Ourselves, yeah that's, why like people Like, tony Like i'm twenty. Seven,

1821
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:37,600
YEAH i know, right that's a big, one, right all,

1822
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:38,560
right big, lie we tell.

1823
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 2: Ourselves, yeah how about trying to put something together without? Instructions? Yeah,

1824
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,720
NOTHING i don't need. That humbles guy faster than, that

1825
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,880
either that or the magic, carver, RIGHT i can't do it.

1826
01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:57,520
Anyway SO i don't know what happened to these poor

1827
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,560
people out, there BUT i SAW i showed that To

1828
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,560
jamison because WHEN i was telling him about the guy

1829
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,520
who hell has, skied he, goes did you ever do

1830
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,479
that with? HIM i, go, No, No i'm not confident

1831
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,319
enough of my. Ability you gotta know your you gotta

1832
01:38:10,359 --> 01:38:13,479
know your. Limits tell, you, yeah do you?

1833
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 4: Ski i've never skied in my, life never in your,

1834
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:16,760
life never skied, ever play.

1835
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 2: Golf would you? Try?

1836
01:38:18,279 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 4: YEAH i would try?

1837
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 2: Skiing you? Would? Yeah oh, god that would be so.

1838
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:25,000
FUN i want, video of course you. Do i'm.

1839
01:38:25,079 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 4: Clumsy that's why we used admit it to be. That

1840
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,520
like you were the one encouraging me about a life coaching,

1841
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,359
business D, ANY i think you should have.

1842
01:38:31,279 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 2: Gone a million.

1843
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 4: DOLLARS i. Did then you text, Me Tommy. Brow you

1844
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,319
see that sign the other, day you think it Was danny's. Client,

1845
01:38:40,159 --> 01:38:44,319
bro this is gonna be an unmitigated fing, disaster kind

1846
01:38:44,319 --> 01:38:44,880
of like something.

1847
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 3: ELSE i, know.

1848
01:38:51,079 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 4: It's. OKAY i mean because we made fun of everybody

1849
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,119
on that. Show, yes you can't make fun of yourself

1850
01:38:55,159 --> 01:38:57,039
that you don't deserve to laugh at anybody.

1851
01:38:57,039 --> 01:39:01,399
Speaker 2: Else exactly, EXACTLY i. DON'T i would have been doing

1852
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:02,039
the same.

1853
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 7: Thing, yeah a life Coach Phil Billy's.

1854
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,279
Speaker 4: No, no, No i'm saying like that's if the roles were, yes,

1855
01:39:10,399 --> 01:39:13,239
yes the shoes are on different, feet, right, yeah you know,

1856
01:39:13,399 --> 01:39:15,800
yeah tongue.

1857
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:20,159
Speaker 2: Shown. Brow he didn't say, That he never. Did he

1858
01:39:20,279 --> 01:39:22,279
never said, NO i, KNOW i don't want to give the.

1859
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 3: Funny, No i'm Just i'm just having, fun all. Right, well,

1860
01:39:25,239 --> 01:39:25,920
No tommy's.

1861
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,279
Speaker 2: Great it hurts, sometimes, RIGHT i, MEAN I i think

1862
01:39:29,319 --> 01:39:32,680
that there's something that. There there is something, There and

1863
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:39,199
SOMEDAY i want to do a podcast adults with hurt

1864
01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:42,720
feelings and how you try to hide it and you

1865
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:48,319
try to act like everything's. Okay you're talking about, right happen.

1866
01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:49,199
Speaker 3: To me on the show so many.

1867
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:52,359
Speaker 4: Times, Right, Yeah i'm not.

1868
01:39:52,359 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 2: Gonna brown a tired red. BROW i will tell you

1869
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,199
that as you get a little bit, Older LIKE i

1870
01:39:57,239 --> 01:39:59,640
had a friend of mine say something to me about

1871
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:04,279
another friend and it was basically like AND i said

1872
01:40:04,279 --> 01:40:06,520
to the, PERSON i, go that. Hurts, MAN i get.

1873
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,840
It i've been. There it. Hurts and they're, like, yeah

1874
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,640
AND i don't know what that. Is maybe it's this

1875
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,960
stupid therapy. Thing And i'm not let me afhrase. That

1876
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,079
maybe it's the therapy Thing i'm. Trying but it wasn't

1877
01:40:18,119 --> 01:40:20,720
THAT i totally got it and someone was just being

1878
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,239
honest with me in a, moment AND i was, like,

1879
01:40:23,319 --> 01:40:28,560
yeah but it is weird because, sometimes like even with,

1880
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:33,399
kids LIKE i love busting, balls somebody takes it too,

1881
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,000
far or If i've taken it too far in the,

1882
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,600
PASS i felt. Horrible i'd never wanted to really hurt people's.

1883
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:42,199
Feelings but when you're an, adult you know WHAT i,

1884
01:40:42,239 --> 01:40:44,680
MEAN i, think like do we think that your feelings

1885
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,920
just go? Away Like i'm, Serious like IF i rip on,

1886
01:40:49,039 --> 01:40:53,000
somebody AND i have done numbers on people as an

1887
01:40:53,039 --> 01:40:56,159
adult in a, bar just fucking right to their, face

1888
01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:00,399
JUST i, mean and everybody's, laughing and that poor person

1889
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,199
just kind of takes, it and, then you, know kind

1890
01:41:02,199 --> 01:41:05,279
of moves on and walks. Away and now That i'm thinking,

1891
01:41:05,279 --> 01:41:08,439
ABOUT i, go what's still? Shitty because we're adults and

1892
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,319
WE i Think i'm just playing, right But i'm coming.

1893
01:41:11,359 --> 01:41:14,359
Hard i'm coming, hard you know? What before we, GO,

1894
01:41:14,399 --> 01:41:15,600
ei there's two THINGS i gotta tell.

1895
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:18,239
Speaker 4: You, Okay so last night.

1896
01:41:20,399 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: In one of my groups and they're breaking down the group,

1897
01:41:23,079 --> 01:41:25,960
afterward and there was a topic and, all AND i

1898
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,159
don't want to say too too, much BUT i said

1899
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:36,560
something like sometimes you, KNOW i did like a dad, voice, like,

1900
01:41:37,239 --> 01:41:39,520
OH i, said how confusing it can be for kids

1901
01:41:40,079 --> 01:41:42,000
because a lot of times we'll say to a, kid

1902
01:41:42,399 --> 01:41:44,840
if you're not feeling great about you, know if you're

1903
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:48,359
not if you're, uncomfortable if you're, sad if you're, frustrated walk,

1904
01:41:48,399 --> 01:41:51,600
away if you're frustrated or you feel stuff getting, angry walk,

1905
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,079
away give yourself some time to cool. Down so the

1906
01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:58,199
kid does something they're they're, frustrated and the parent comes

1907
01:41:58,199 --> 01:42:00,199
in and, goes come, HERE i want you To i'm

1908
01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:01,840
about to talk to. You and the kid starts walking

1909
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,119
away because they know they should walk, away and you,

1910
01:42:04,199 --> 01:42:06,560
go where are you? Going get back? Here? Right and

1911
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,600
it's like this confusing thing for a. Kid AND i

1912
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,119
always thought that as a, kid like you told ME

1913
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:13,239
i could walk away When i'm. Frustrated now WHEN i

1914
01:42:13,279 --> 01:42:15,079
go to walk away When i'm, frustrated you're yelling at

1915
01:42:15,079 --> 01:42:18,159
me for walking, away like, right, okay confusing. Message so

1916
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:21,560
In i'm saying this and i raise my, voice But

1917
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:25,079
i'm looking. Down i'm looking down at the ground AND

1918
01:42:25,159 --> 01:42:27,640
i go sometimes you, go you, know with a, kid

1919
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,119
it can be. Confused, hey get back over. Here AND

1920
01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:33,840
i look up and at the danny like everybody's like.

1921
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:43,239
Speaker 7: WHOA i was, like, okay, yep now THAT i have your. Attention,

1922
01:42:43,359 --> 01:42:46,800
no but they're like visibly like people were, like oh my.

1923
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 2: God AND i didn't even realize. It And i'm like

1924
01:42:50,199 --> 01:42:52,640
that would be my dad, voice And i'm like, wow

1925
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,560
MAYBE i was, really like really too much of a,

1926
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,479
Dick but that was my own, man and that's WHAT

1927
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,920
i came. FROM i DIDN'T i don't.

1928
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 3: Know, yeah my, father like we for years we thought

1929
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,199
it was, yelly he was just talking.

1930
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah and then it's just how he. Was have you

1931
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,720
ever been part of a privilege? WALK i don't know

1932
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,359
what that, Is, Okay so everybody lines up like against the,

1933
01:43:13,399 --> 01:43:19,159
wall and they ask questions and sometimes for the response

1934
01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:22,840
to the question to take a step, forward or you

1935
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,239
take a step, backwards or you stay where you. Are

1936
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:30,000
so it was a privilege, walk, Right and it was

1937
01:43:30,039 --> 01:43:32,520
really to just show AND i know that that we

1938
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,119
put a label in front of. Privilege some people, do,

1939
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,279
right and they, do but privilege just in terms of,

1940
01:43:39,319 --> 01:43:43,600
privilege and it is questions and you can't like choose.

1941
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,479
It but there was a bowl of candy at the,

1942
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:50,840
end like who's going to get there? First AND i

1943
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:57,319
knew who was getting there. First ye, YEAH i don't know.

1944
01:43:57,359 --> 01:44:00,720
WHY i just, go it's gonna fucking be me Because

1945
01:44:01,239 --> 01:44:06,239
i'm a fifty four year old white guy AND i

1946
01:44:06,399 --> 01:44:12,399
didn't come from, nothing, Right so, question take a step?

1947
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:17,039
Forward if one or both of your parents were college.

1948
01:44:17,119 --> 01:44:25,199
Educated step, forward and then it was take a step

1949
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:32,239
backward if you ever found yourself, unsheltered like you, know

1950
01:44:32,399 --> 01:44:34,560
or on what do they call on? Home NOW i don't.

1951
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,079
Think well they said, homeless BUT i think the TERM

1952
01:44:39,159 --> 01:44:42,319
i don't, know AND i have a whole, problem, yes

1953
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,960
so but, whatever right and AND i but Now I'm

1954
01:44:47,039 --> 01:44:49,159
i'm towards the, front So i'm not looking back to

1955
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:51,479
see what's going on back? There right just and then

1956
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,760
it was like things like take a step forward if

1957
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,399
you had more than ten books in your house growing,

1958
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:00,439
up not necessarily books you put. There you, Know i'm,

1959
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:05,800
saying like, books SO i writ or take a step

1960
01:45:07,199 --> 01:45:10,680
backward if you ever felt like you were being watched

1961
01:45:11,319 --> 01:45:18,880
closely or followed while. Shopping, right and, OKAY i don't.

1962
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:22,880
MOVE i THINK i moved. Back on like if a

1963
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,399
family member was ever addicted to drugs or alcohol we

1964
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:31,279
had rehab, things, Okay and then take a step backward

1965
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:35,359
if anybody ever saw you as a. Threat and SO

1966
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,119
i did take a step. Backwards now it was not accurate.

1967
01:45:38,279 --> 01:45:42,800
EXACTLY i was out of college working AT i was

1968
01:45:43,039 --> 01:45:47,520
at radio station part, time AND i was djaying at

1969
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:51,560
the at bar on they'll call The. Windfield And i'm

1970
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:53,960
leaving The windfield one night AND i have MY cd

1971
01:45:54,159 --> 01:45:57,119
booklet in the front seat of my car BECAUSE i

1972
01:45:57,199 --> 01:46:00,880
was DJing from their LITTLE dj booth and And i'm

1973
01:46:01,039 --> 01:46:05,319
getting on The expressway AND i get pulled over and a,

1974
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:11,479
frustrated frustrated officer comes up and, says you got to

1975
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,319
get out of the car and come with. Me And i'm, like,

1976
01:46:13,359 --> 01:46:15,159
WHAT i, Go i'm not getting out of the. Car

1977
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:16,840
you got to get out of the car and come with.

1978
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,199
Me there are some girls back at and they were

1979
01:46:20,199 --> 01:46:24,039
in front of a grocery store that claims you've been

1980
01:46:24,039 --> 01:46:29,079
harassing them tonight and we're bringing you back. There AND i,

1981
01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:32,159
go what IF i don't, go, well Then i'll arrest.

1982
01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:33,960
YOU i, go, okay what DO i do with my?

1983
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,359
Car lock? It i'm supposed to leave it on the

1984
01:46:36,399 --> 01:46:38,560
side of this on. Ramp he, goes, YEP i, go

1985
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:40,880
what about my CDs and ALL i because to, ME

1986
01:46:41,039 --> 01:46:42,960
i had spent a ton of money on these, things

1987
01:46:43,079 --> 01:46:45,760
right leave them right. There so NOW i get in

1988
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,760
the back of the cop. Car it's those hard plastic

1989
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:53,520
toughs that and they start driving back and it comes

1990
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,399
across the right To the girls are scared and they

1991
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,560
just want to go, home so they're ready to just call.

1992
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,560
It SO i had not been anywhere near young. Girls

1993
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,279
it wasn't anywhere near THEM i. Fit but the guys

1994
01:47:06,319 --> 01:47:09,039
like you fit the description your. CAR i, GO i

1995
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:11,279
was at this. PLACE i, go we can go back.

1996
01:47:11,319 --> 01:47:13,640
THERE i just left. THERE i didn't talk to, anybody

1997
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,960
was in A dj. Booth that's not what they. Said

1998
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:19,359
and then he says to, me it's your lucky, night

1999
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:21,159
and he turns around and drops me off of my.

2000
01:47:21,239 --> 01:47:24,960
Car SO i took a step, backward thinking someone saw

2001
01:47:25,039 --> 01:47:27,279
me as a, threat but they never. Did it wasn't.

2002
01:47:27,319 --> 01:47:30,920
ME i never did any so MAYBE i shouldn't have

2003
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:32,680
taken a step back. There and then it was like

2004
01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:37,800
if someone in your, household a parent or someone in

2005
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:42,880
charge in your, household had a job that required an advanced,

2006
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:47,119
degree so beyond. College SO i took a step forward

2007
01:47:47,159 --> 01:47:50,039
AND i got the. CANDY i was already. There but,

2008
01:47:50,239 --> 01:47:53,479
yeah and it is amazing that you. Know and WHAT

2009
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,680
i thought was great was that no matter where you

2010
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,039
were in this spectrum of people in terms of a

2011
01:48:00,239 --> 01:48:04,039
privilege or, not just having opportunities that are available you're

2012
01:48:04,039 --> 01:48:09,039
all here, now so let's. Go, yeah, right let's. Go

2013
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:11,119
that was kind of the WAY i took. It BUT

2014
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:15,119
i think some people did not like this whatever BECAUSE

2015
01:48:15,119 --> 01:48:17,560
i think they had. TO i think somebody might have

2016
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,159
asked a question of something later, on and there was

2017
01:48:20,319 --> 01:48:22,119
some scratched. Heads BUT i don't.

2018
01:48:22,199 --> 01:48:24,119
Speaker 4: Know it's all, right get a chance look up the

2019
01:48:24,159 --> 01:48:26,439
episode Of i've always seen the clip of it Of

2020
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,000
beavis and Butt head being taught white.

2021
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 3: Privilege and you will crack.

2022
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 2: Up well, YEAH i mean what you?

2023
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,279
Speaker 4: Will you will literally like Crack they take it literally.

2024
01:48:34,319 --> 01:48:38,159
Speaker 2: LITERALLY i have always believed AND i say this a,

2025
01:48:38,199 --> 01:48:40,560
lot And i've said it for, years and you actually.

2026
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:44,840
Lived this was a lived experience for. YOU i have

2027
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:50,760
always felt LIKE i could fit in ANYWHERE i wanted to.

2028
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:57,079
Anywhere if it was a, big fancy country, CLUB i

2029
01:48:57,079 --> 01:48:59,840
could fit. In remember when we went up and kissed

2030
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:01,600
them want to make a? Trophy? Yes and then we

2031
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,000
walked into the party AND i said to, you just that. Cool.

2032
01:49:04,159 --> 01:49:05,439
Cool and we were there for.

2033
01:49:05,359 --> 01:49:08,079
Speaker 4: A, while about forty five, minutes drinking for, free, yep,

2034
01:49:09,199 --> 01:49:12,920
eating hanging, out, yeah taking pictures with the. Trophy, me

2035
01:49:13,079 --> 01:49:14,640
you And Peter, montemorno and.

2036
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,199
Speaker 2: Nobody fucking said anything for a while until somebody had

2037
01:49:18,199 --> 01:49:20,279
a guest list and they're, GOING i don't see these

2038
01:49:20,279 --> 01:49:20,640
guys on.

2039
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 4: There, yeah we didn't get.

2040
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 2: It they didn't even like there was nothing like we

2041
01:49:25,159 --> 01:49:27,600
fit right, in you know What i'm. Saying, Yeah AND

2042
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,000
i have always been that. WAY i was In Park.

2043
01:49:30,039 --> 01:49:34,960
CITY i would go to these high end fundraisers as

2044
01:49:35,039 --> 01:49:39,239
my aunt's date to a deer valley for these, things,

2045
01:49:39,359 --> 01:49:42,479
right deer valleys like, this, big, fancy, LOVELY i mean

2046
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:46,079
food like you wouldn't believe women, that just like you

2047
01:49:46,079 --> 01:49:49,079
wouldn't BELIEVE i fit. RIGHT i was right, there, MAN

2048
01:49:49,159 --> 01:49:52,000
i Had i'm talking to some women From sweden and

2049
01:49:52,039 --> 01:49:55,000
it was, awesome AND i could hang out With race And.

2050
01:49:55,079 --> 01:49:58,399
RANDY i go down To Watkins glen and do. That

2051
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:01,079
i've never felt LIKE i didn't. Anywhere that has been

2052
01:50:01,079 --> 01:50:03,960
my entire, life And i've always known that that was

2053
01:50:04,039 --> 01:50:06,119
kind of a form of. PRIVILEGE i really. Did and

2054
01:50:06,199 --> 01:50:08,640
when it really became apparent to me was something my

2055
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,119
father said to me BECAUSE i got on the radio In,

2056
01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:14,279
Poughkeepsie New. YORK i HAD i was facing four hundred

2057
01:50:14,279 --> 01:50:19,800
dollars fines in traffic, whatever AND i if the officer

2058
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:24,600
doesn't show up at, court it gets. Dismissed he didn't show,

2059
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,319
Up SO i got on the radio AND i thanked

2060
01:50:27,399 --> 01:50:30,039
him for saving me four hundred and fifty. Dollars AND

2061
01:50:30,119 --> 01:50:34,800
i got pulled over almost every single day for SHIT

2062
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,560
i didn't even. Know you get pulled over for. Ever

2063
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,079
you open your mouth every. Time every TIME i, LEFT

2064
01:50:41,199 --> 01:50:44,800
i GOT i thought they made something, up like ONCE

2065
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,760
i go is that even a? Thing he, Goes it is.

2066
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:50,439
Now i'll never forget. It it is. NOW i WISH

2067
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:51,239
i could remember what it.

2068
01:50:51,279 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 3: Was my father got pulled over once he, GOES i wasn't?

2069
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:54,840
Speedy was this for all the times you?

2070
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 2: Were, yeah that's not. Fair you got to catch me for, real,

2071
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,399
man right? Right SO i got so, many and my

2072
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,840
father said to, me he, goes it makes me very

2073
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,920
thankful that you are not a young black, man BECAUSE

2074
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,560
i would be so worried with a number of times

2075
01:51:13,039 --> 01:51:16,840
and opening your mouth and challenging authority and. Whatever i'm

2076
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,840
not saying that anything would have. Happened maybe you wouldn't.

2077
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,840
HAVE i don't. Know i'm, THIS i can't be anything.

2078
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,800
Else and, so But i've always known THAT i could

2079
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:27,880
just walk in anywhere and NEVER i was never followed

2080
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:29,479
in a. Store it or whatever looked at me LIKE

2081
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,880
i was gonna just Go. Robin it WAS i was,

2082
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,319
like hey know What i'm. Saying and so it was

2083
01:51:35,399 --> 01:51:38,439
just very. Different And i've been aware of, that and

2084
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:41,199
so when people have said white, Privilege i've always known

2085
01:51:41,239 --> 01:51:42,920
what it. Meant it didn't mean you didn't work hard

2086
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,000
to get where you. Are it didn't mean that at.

2087
01:51:45,039 --> 01:51:47,279
All it just meant you probably had a better network

2088
01:51:47,319 --> 01:51:52,119
than most people because you're, white you, know and maybe

2089
01:51:52,159 --> 01:51:55,239
not not. Everybody. LOOK i know a guy Named Brother

2090
01:51:55,239 --> 01:51:56,920
weiz who was coming. BACK i THINK i told this

2091
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,640
once before. Recently i'm there coming back From, canada had

2092
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,680
his boat up, there left his wife and kids on.

2093
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:04,880
There he And joe t are gonna drive back with

2094
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,520
these giant pillows that were taking up all this, space

2095
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,680
like decorative pillows that were on the. Boat someone flew.

2096
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,159
Off he's like, Literally so they're bringing them back and

2097
01:52:13,199 --> 01:52:17,119
they get to customs and these are two white guys

2098
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,119
all tattooed, up and they get pulled over and they're

2099
01:52:21,239 --> 01:52:23,680
ripping the pillows with knives and shit to see if

2100
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:24,439
there's cocaine in.

2101
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 4: There there's no. Drugs there was nothing in the pillows.

2102
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 2: Exactly So i'm SAYING i never had that profile IF

2103
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:34,199
i came through with. Pillows i'm gonna tell you ninety percent.

2104
01:52:34,239 --> 01:52:36,359
Sure it's just, like where are you going with the?

2105
01:52:36,359 --> 01:52:39,079
Pillows that's my wife's and bitching at. ME i gotta

2106
01:52:39,079 --> 01:52:41,359
get them off the. Boat i'm bringing them back To. Rochester,

2107
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:46,279
okay THAT'S i don't. Know that's What i'm talking. About

2108
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,199
is that? Privilege probably BECAUSE i didn't have the pillows

2109
01:52:49,239 --> 01:52:51,680
ripped apart AND i didn't HAVE i didn't HAVE i wasn't,

2110
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,880
detained that wasn't slow, Down so, WHATEVER i don't. Know

2111
01:52:55,039 --> 01:52:56,880
here's The Warren zevon song THAT i always. Loved it

2112
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,079
was the last one he was talking. About we'll close

2113
01:52:59,119 --> 01:53:02,439
it out on This keep you in your heart for a.

2114
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:08,279
While i'm sometimes trying to put together my funeral, playlist

2115
01:53:09,279 --> 01:53:10,720
AND i think i'd have to keep this one in.

2116
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 4: There if it doesn't mean of you.

2117
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:20,319
Speaker 2: Any yes he did in your heart for a, While

2118
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:22,960
yes he. Did when you.

2119
01:53:23,039 --> 01:53:25,600
Speaker 4: Get up in the morning.

2120
01:53:25,279 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 1: And you see that crazy, sun keep being in your

2121
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:30,680
heart for a.

2122
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:35,239
Speaker 2: While what if you're a loved one said this to.

2123
01:53:35,279 --> 01:53:37,960
YOU i would cry every DAY i heard. This oh,

2124
01:53:38,039 --> 01:53:40,439
yeah you know WHAT i. Mean all right in your

2125
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:44,840
heart for a, while all right For DAN, burrello For

2126
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,000
Jamison moran and The. RESILIENCE i was very very happy

2127
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:52,000
back skeating in the rain and it was. Awesome Bill,

2128
01:53:52,079 --> 01:53:53,119
moran we'll see you next.

2129
01:53:53,159 --> 01:53:56,319
Speaker 4: Time, shine.

2130
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,399
Speaker 2: Keep in your heart for a. While