Speaker 1: Let's bring in my buddy A lemon Teau who stops
Speaker 1: by to talk about the All Poly Sports camp coming up. Alemma,
Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, man, how you doing and doing fine?
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Appreciate the time. Appreciate the time.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of your time of year as we're
Speaker 1: approaching the All Poly camp. But I've been interviewing you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like once a year for
Speaker 1: a long long time. So just before our listeners are unfamiliar,
Speaker 1: tell us about it. What do you want our listeners
Speaker 1: listeners to know from like a macro viewpoint about all
Speaker 1: poly sports.
Speaker 2: So right now we're rated the number one contact camp
Speaker 2: in the country non institutional camps by the College Coaches
Speaker 2: of America. We're excited about that. We're going on twenty
Speaker 2: seven years and we've had the opportunity of you know,
Speaker 2: waiting to see some great players come through and also
Speaker 2: see see the elevation of high school football here in
Speaker 2: the great state of Utah.
Speaker 1: So, Alemma, let's get some dates and locations. When is
Speaker 1: one of the actual camps going down and where they're
Speaker 1: going to be.
Speaker 2: Our right and start camp will be June seventeenth, and
Speaker 2: our college Prospect camp is going to be June eighteenth.
Speaker 2: Both will be held at the Lompeak Park here in Sandy.
Speaker 1: And over the years, as you reference, the high school
Speaker 1: football scene in our states has evolved and continues to
Speaker 1: evolve with players not just you know eleven. When I
Speaker 1: was growing up, it felt like all the best players
Speaker 1: went to either b Y you were Utah. Nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that, But now we see players going all over
Speaker 1: the country and a number of players continue to go
Speaker 1: to the NFL to play pro football. Tell me a
Speaker 1: lemma from your vantage point, how the college football Excuse me,
Speaker 1: the high school football scene in the state of Utah
Speaker 1: has grown since you kind of started doing this.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you right now, I honestly believe that
Speaker 2: the coaching year in Utah at the high school level
Speaker 2: is awesome. We got a lot of outstanding coaches who
Speaker 2: are very committed to the game and who also great teachers,
Speaker 2: you know. Not only that, and outside of you know,
Speaker 2: the great coaches that we have here in the state
Speaker 2: of Utah, we have outstanding trainers. Guys that are taking
Speaker 2: kids I mean off season and really uh you know,
Speaker 2: honing in their skills. You know, I mean the skill
Speaker 2: position guys. Uh, you know, I mean are doing some
Speaker 2: great things. I know we've got you know, Matta Seattle
Speaker 2: does R Beast Training, does a great job with this linebackers,
Speaker 2: got the Offer training guys. They do a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff with the lineman competition, I know, protech trenches and
Speaker 2: uh boss skills. Uh. Those those are front guys that
Speaker 2: do a fabulous job. You know, we're we're we're known
Speaker 2: for for our front guys online d line guys. But
Speaker 2: people are underestimate the fact that we've had great quarterbacks
Speaker 2: come through City of Utah as well. You know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think this year we got three of the best
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the country at the high school level. With
Speaker 2: the Cosuma kid at Corner Canyon, you got the Little
Speaker 2: Patty kid at West and uh the Loone Pig kid
Speaker 2: kept up who met total, those three guys, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: are outstanding quarterbacks that are going to make us some
Speaker 2: noise this year.
Speaker 1: So probably should be very clear, Lama, I know this
Speaker 1: because I'm familiar with you, but the name of the
Speaker 1: camp is all poly sports.
Speaker 3: But you are open to everyone, Yes, open.
Speaker 2: To everyone, inclusive of any and all. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: originally started that way. But you know, as the village
Speaker 2: got bigger, and you know, we decided to make sure
Speaker 2: that everybody had the same opportunity. So you know, we've
Speaker 2: had great non pollom. These kids come through with the
Speaker 2: Kruger brothers. As you know, I had great careers, you know. Uh.
Speaker 2: And I see a kid very shimular to those guys
Speaker 2: and Crew Jones. You know, he's an outstanding defensive lineman
Speaker 2: you know up in the Cash County area who's doing
Speaker 2: a great job. And that guy's being recruited all over
Speaker 2: the country. So he came to Dark Camp last year
Speaker 2: and just look to everybody's trash and uh. You know,
Speaker 2: he's really big on the recruiting scene right now. And
Speaker 2: there'll be more guys like Kim uh from the few
Speaker 2: as well. So UH, I want to say this. Uh,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, there.
Speaker 4: Is a young man by the name of Kingston Stroshine.
Speaker 2: His dad runs Strofilm. It's uh. He's only in eighth grade,
Speaker 2: going into the ninth grade. I project him to be
Speaker 2: uh part of the top recruit out of the state
Speaker 2: of Utah within the next couple of years. He is
Speaker 2: that good and UH I look forward to seeing him
Speaker 2: in shoulder pads and doing this thing at camp this year.
Speaker 1: Give our listeners alemma an idea of just kind of
Speaker 1: the schedule how this camp works, uh, you know, what
Speaker 1: you do in the morning, the drills and such. Coaches
Speaker 1: that are present, give it. If we've got listeners who
Speaker 1: have some some some young man who they think might
Speaker 1: benefit from your camp.
Speaker 3: What's the feel like? What do you guys do.
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: But we have three sessions, Okay, each camp has three.
Speaker 2: First session, it's gonna be the home it's only kids
Speaker 2: will come through, run through positions, specific grills with the
Speaker 2: different college coaches, and then they're gonna put them into
Speaker 2: various teams. The second session, we'll start off with some
Speaker 2: some limited contact where we're gonna instill or install an
Speaker 2: offense and a defense. So the kids are gonna have
Speaker 2: to learn, you know, a scheme you know at college
Speaker 2: tempo during that second period, and then the third period
Speaker 2: we'll go through a review session and then we're gonna
Speaker 2: scrimmage at the end. And then during that time, you know,
Speaker 2: you see the cream rise to the top. And so
Speaker 2: over the years, we've had some very spirited uh scrimmage years,
Speaker 2: and you know, the the level of competition that that
Speaker 2: that shows itself at the end is amazing and so
Speaker 2: uh and you will see a lot of college coaches
Speaker 2: around there during that time, just kind of taking notes
Speaker 2: and uh sneak and peek at at kids from the
Speaker 2: different parts of the country.
Speaker 1: So so local college coach coaches from around the country
Speaker 1: checking out these kids. I wonder, Alemma, how you because
Speaker 1: we talked about the changing landscape of high school football
Speaker 1: in Utah and how it's grown. What about the landscape
Speaker 1: of college football in Utah. Somebody has been around football forever. Uh,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you make of the current
Speaker 1: state of the college game and the changes that have
Speaker 1: been implemented over the past four years.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, in a sense, man, it's it's kind
Speaker 2: of level of the playing field, you know. And then
Speaker 2: I mean, you know before back, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: as recently as three four years ago, everybody was going
Speaker 2: to Alabama. You know. Now that's not the case anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the dollar has taken over the game.
Speaker 2: You know, it's unfortunate because you know, you don't have
Speaker 2: the stability of the roster, and you know, from year
Speaker 2: to year, I mean ten years ago, you knew if
Speaker 2: you signed somewhere, the changes are you're going to be
Speaker 2: there for four to five years. Now the projection is, man,
Speaker 2: you got the average you guys are going to transfer
Speaker 2: two times, you know, which is unfortunate, Which is unfortunate
Speaker 2: because they don't get that that growth or that experience,
Speaker 2: you know, in one program. And so I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's specially it's basically professional football now, you know,
Speaker 2: in all sense of the word. You know, they're they're
Speaker 2: following the uh, the NFL model. Everybody's got a GM
Speaker 2: now instead of a DFO, and those guys got to
Speaker 2: manage their roster and and you know, obviously they're paying
Speaker 2: the players now. So uh. And then what I'm finding
Speaker 2: out and the word I'm getting from a lot of
Speaker 2: the college coaches that I deal with is, you know,
Speaker 2: everybody is more.
Speaker 4: Concerned with what the NIL deal versus what.
Speaker 2: Kind of education can I get or how, you know,
Speaker 2: how can you develop me as a football player? Which
Speaker 2: which is you know. The sad thing now is I
Speaker 2: meet every year with a lot of the college guys
Speaker 2: and a lot of the lot of the recruiting courternators
Speaker 2: out of convention, and this year it was basically like,
Speaker 2: we just don't have the time to develop players anymore,
Speaker 2: so we got to recruit guys that can come in.
Speaker 2: Now that means, you know, only the top tier high
Speaker 2: school players are going to be able to get a
Speaker 2: shot to get that D one scholarship, you know. So
Speaker 2: it's it's different, you know. I mean there's a plus
Speaker 2: at a minus, you know, and so everybody's just going
Speaker 2: to have to adjust to it.
Speaker 1: So from a low take, oh yeah, great, Now, Now
Speaker 1: let me move over here, because from a local standpoint,
Speaker 1: you know, we're broadcasting a mile away from Rice Suckles,
Speaker 1: and we're the home of the Utes and have a
Speaker 1: good relationship with all the b YU guys as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, hell half of them coached here anyway.
Speaker 1: So how do you feel the Kyle and Kalani are
Speaker 1: positioned to make sure that they continue on the right
Speaker 1: path to make sure the b YU and b YU
Speaker 1: and Utah football can can keep having success.
Speaker 2: You know, I know this, They're they're only going to
Speaker 2: have access to good players. The problem isn't within b
Speaker 2: YU or Utah itself, is the outside guys that are
Speaker 2: run interference, you know with their best players. You know,
Speaker 2: there's you know, there are predators out there that are
Speaker 2: gonna go after their best players, and that to me
Speaker 2: is probably gonna be the hardest thing to do for
Speaker 2: our local schools is how do you keep those guys
Speaker 2: away from our best players? You know, that's that's that's
Speaker 2: a tough job moving forward, because no matter what Nancy
Speaker 2: double A says, hey man, you know, and outside source
Speaker 2: is gonna come in and say, hey they mee me
Speaker 2: have McDonald's, they got to brown back player, and that's
Speaker 2: the end of the story. You're you're gone, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's the biggest problem I see, and that that
Speaker 2: that's gonna that's gonna hurt them is both institutions do
Speaker 2: a great job recruiting and developing players and even taking
Speaker 2: players that are not even rating and turning them into
Speaker 2: four or five star level players. But can they keep
Speaker 2: on keep keep those guys on the roster? You know,
Speaker 2: that's tough part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that that's kind of where my
Speaker 1: head is at. I mean, because as you know, Kyle's
Speaker 1: best teams, certainly if you go back to Sugar Bowl,
Speaker 1: go back to back twelve championships, like you know, the deal,
Speaker 1: like the ethos is we will develop you, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you're not ready to play right out of the gates,
Speaker 1: give us some time, put in the work, do what
Speaker 1: we ask you to do, and then when you're a third, fourth,
Speaker 1: fifth year guy, you'll be ready to roll, and so
Speaker 1: will we.
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of always been the deal.
Speaker 1: Is that type of model sustainable Alemma in modern day
Speaker 1: college football?
Speaker 2: Geez? And honestly, I don't like the direction that college
Speaker 2: football is taken, and it's not. I don't think it's sustainable,
Speaker 2: you know, in my opinion, you know, just because you can't,
Speaker 2: I mean you can't. You can't if you can't keep
Speaker 2: your best players, you know, how do you expect to
Speaker 2: be good year in a year out? You know when
Speaker 2: you know that, yeah, I'm gonna I just sign a
Speaker 2: five star D lineman or whole lineman or whatever, knowing that, hey,
Speaker 2: if I don't give this guy enough playing time his
Speaker 2: freshman year, he's gone, you know. And if he's not
Speaker 2: happy with the offense tooot, he's gone. You know. So
Speaker 2: there's so many variables that are going to attack the game.
Speaker 2: I think it really to me, it handcuffs the coaches,
Speaker 2: you know, on how they can do their job. You know,
Speaker 2: they're expected to go out and recruit the best players
Speaker 2: they possibly can, you know, at the same time, you know,
Speaker 2: try to help these guys create these nil deals and
Speaker 2: then keep them happy.
Speaker 4: I mean, but then when you try to do that, shoot.
Speaker 2: What happens to the plan be guys that are in
Speaker 2: your backup guys, you know, I mean, they get left behind.
Speaker 2: So man, I you know, in the NFL you can
Speaker 2: do that. That's just part of the game. But to
Speaker 2: try to do that at the college level, I think
Speaker 2: it urged the game my personal opinion.
Speaker 1: Tell me, if you've noticed as you're working with these
Speaker 1: young players a difference in the attitude, a difference in
Speaker 1: the approach of both the players and I'll say the
Speaker 1: parents around them, are the groups around them now that
Speaker 1: there's so much money at stake Alemma, money immediately, not
Speaker 1: money in four or five years when they maybe they
Speaker 1: make the NFL. Now that these young men can make
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not more as an
Speaker 1: eighteen year old freshman.
Speaker 3: Have you noticed a change.
Speaker 1: In kind of the attitude of the young kids and
Speaker 1: the people around them that you work with every year?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm telling you right now. The difference is this.
Speaker 4: I mean, when I was sixteen, fifteen, sixteen, I.
Speaker 2: Was just I was just happy to be hanging out
Speaker 2: with my guys, playing ball in the park, you know,
Speaker 2: just doing fun things.
Speaker 4: You know. Now, hey, guys that at fifteen are.
Speaker 2: Getting financial planners, you know. I mean, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're that good of a player, you're going to
Speaker 2: have to start, you know, looking for the right kind
Speaker 2: of legal advice, the right kind of financial planner. People
Speaker 2: are starting to prep you for the next you know,
Speaker 2: six years of your life, you know. I mean it's
Speaker 2: so which in turn, I mean parents are different now too.
Speaker 2: Parents all feel like, you know that, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: my kids going to be the guy. So you know,
Speaker 2: they're they're into the negotiation game as well. I mean,
Speaker 2: all all the parents that are involved with the with
Speaker 2: the with the anile stuff, the recruiting stuff. You know,
Speaker 2: some of them get it, but a lot of them don't.
Speaker 2: And shoot, I think I think that hurts them. So
Speaker 2: the attitude of the kids have changed too, Like there's
Speaker 2: there's no loyalty even at the high school level. I mean,
Speaker 2: kid can play three different high schools in four years,
Speaker 2: you know, so everybody's going to try to go to
Speaker 2: where the best deal is. And that's a sad thing,
Speaker 2: right And you know, I've been a high school coach
Speaker 2: for for you know, thirty plus years. I love the
Speaker 2: development part and the long term relationship that you've been
Speaker 2: able to get with the athlete. Man, that's going by
Speaker 2: the wayside. That's going by the wayside, because even the
Speaker 2: high school kids are transferring after one and two years.
Speaker 1: So if you had any advice, if we have parents
Speaker 1: listening to the show who have a young promising football player,
Speaker 1: what advice would you give them?
Speaker 2: If you're as good as if the kids as good
Speaker 2: as as as everybody.
Speaker 4: Says he is he has, he would be.
Speaker 2: Okay where he's at, you know, he's They're gonna find
Speaker 2: them the way recruiting is right now. And if they
Speaker 2: find those guys, they you know, you know, each each
Speaker 2: Division one or PE four school they got paid a
Speaker 2: lot of money just to find the best players out there.
Speaker 2: So I mean, be careful not to you not to
Speaker 2: just jump and run, you know, I mean develop, you know,
Speaker 2: that's that's my thing. Develop and get better where you're at.
Speaker 2: You know, now, if it's you know, obviously I can't
Speaker 2: speak for everybody, but geez, you know, you're just you're
Speaker 2: just telling people that, hey, things get hard, you're gonna
Speaker 2: up and go, you know.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that helps your recruiting that much too,
Speaker 2: you know so, but I would tell them to, hey,
Speaker 2: make sure you surround yourself with good people that you trust,
Speaker 2: that have the best interest in mind, you know. And
Speaker 2: I meet with a lot of parents, say, a lot
Speaker 2: of people come to me and I tell them, hey,
Speaker 2: the landscape of the high school recruiting is different now,
Speaker 2: and so you need to learn how to manage it.
Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna have to learn how to deal
Speaker 2: with it. And so if you're in a position, if
Speaker 2: I'm a parent, I got a good kid, maybe I
Speaker 2: try to learn how to be a negotiating myself, you know,
Speaker 2: because then you got other services out there that are available.
Speaker 2: You know, you got to pay money for those, but
Speaker 2: you know that's up to you obviously. But you know,
Speaker 2: no one loves their kids more than their parents. So
Speaker 2: I always encouraged parents study, study the game, learn learn
Speaker 2: about it. You know, if you're in a position to
Speaker 2: do it, then go in and do it. If not,
Speaker 2: then reach reach out to other services that you have
Speaker 2: trust in and see if they can help you.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm up for so you lose one more time.
Speaker 1: All Poly Sports Camp, tell us the dates, tell us
Speaker 1: the location, all the good stuff you want our listeners
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 2: The Rising Start Camp is gonna be June seventeenth. Now,
Speaker 2: the one unique thing about the Writing Star Camp, going
Speaker 2: back to the recruiting conversation, is right now, we got
Speaker 2: to target these kids as any as we possibly can.
Speaker 2: So we hope to identify some of the top players
Speaker 2: in the country in the grade seven eight to nine
Speaker 2: at this year's camp. So, but that's gonna be June seventeenth.
Speaker 2: June eighteenth is our our college prospect camp. We're excited
Speaker 2: to get kids that come down and you know, and
Speaker 2: I mean because again one percent are gonna get the offers.
Speaker 2: The other ninety nine You need to be at the
Speaker 2: All Poly camp in friends of the twenty five different
Speaker 2: colleges there so you can showcase.
Speaker 1: So there you go, There you go. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. Best of luck and reach out
Speaker 1: if you need.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, have a great date.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Let me tell the website is Allpolysports dot com. That's
Speaker 1: all polysports dot com as you as an Alemma reference
Speaker 1: the dates. Rising Stars Camp will be June seventeenth at
Speaker 1: Lone Peak Park in Sandy and then the College Prospects
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five camp the next day at June twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: also at lone Peak Park.
Speaker 3: You get deals with early registration. You know what that
Speaker 3: has ended.
Speaker 1: Never mind, you still get deals right now as opposed
Speaker 1: to just walking up the day of the camp.
Speaker 3: So check it out.
Speaker 1: Allpolysports dot com is the website where you can get
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