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Speaker 1: Hellllo, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the six hundred and

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thirty IF episode of the Geek First podcast on the

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Clown Prince of Romulus Trust Now, and I'm joined.

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Speaker 2: By Nobody cares about Remis kirkln Patzer.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm the face Hugger, Dylan Muss.

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Speaker 4: I'm the ND, Taylor Field the ND.

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Speaker 1: Well. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you can imagine what we're

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talking about because we've been leading up to this, maybe

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for a long time, but it definitely leads for the

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past few months because we start our alien retrospective. So

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if you end up listening to the non spoils, which

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that's what we do here, we'll do a non spoils

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portion for about fifteen twenty, give us our likes dislikes

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a recommendation, and we'll warn you before we get into spoilers.

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But if you listen to that or the spoilers, it's like, hey,

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I really like what these guys think about Aliens. Well,

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we did everything we did the original four. We did AVP,

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we did Prometheus and Covernment Government Covenant, Taylor and Dylan

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did Isolation, so we covered a bunch of it. And

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if you like the Predaer stuff too. There's Preda retros

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up there. So we've this whole type of Gammic on

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film as far as the space sci fi Fox now

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twenty century era, and here we are to cover the

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newest one, directed by the great Fealvarez, who did a

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twenty thirteen year old Dead and Don't Breathe twenty sixteen.

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So I think there was lots of excitement for this,

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and especially I remember when we sat when I sat down,

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I remember years ago when Fox got bought by Disney

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and I told Taya, which I'm so glad I'm wrong,

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because we got praying this. I was like, oh, I

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think because we were coming off the Predator and we're

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coming off of Covenant, I was like, oh, those are good,

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Like I think Disney's gonna not really touch these for

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a while. And even then that's still like, what when

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was Covenant twenty seventeen? I think we talked about. Yes,

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I guess it's still like seven years and the Predator

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is that twenty sixteen? Twenty seventeen, does anyone know? Okay,

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so yeah, since sixties, but still even sooner than I thought.

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But here we are, So I'm gonna let the man

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mister Alien Sulf. I would end with him. I'm gonna

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start with him, mister taylor Field, what did you think

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of Alien Romulus?

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Speaker 4: I think the first and second acts were awesome. I

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was so into this movie. I was loving it, and

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visually this movie is outstanding. Oh my god, It's just

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a beautiful, a beautiful set. And I think that the

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people on the team that will work on this film

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probably had so much freaking fun designing everything. Oh the

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energy was probably just so livid. There just this the

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culture just livid, livid, the nostalgia just creating everything for

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this film.

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Speaker 5: I would just love to just be a part of that.

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Speaker 4: When we get to the back end of this film,

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I felt like it was not working for me, and

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I feel like there were some callbacks to specific moments

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in specific Alien films that I did not like a lot,

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And ultimately I feel like it a part of me

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just felt like this just is like a chapter out

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of an Evil Dead, like something.

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Speaker 5: An Evil Dead.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm not really jiving with this. I feel

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like it's not necessarily like.

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Speaker 1: Can you define that a bit more chapter of Evil Dead? Like,

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what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 5: I can't say it without spoilers.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, we'll circle back here.

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Speaker 3: We gotta circle back to that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we're starting in spoilers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, though, I think that this has definitely raised the

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bar after like Alien Covenant. Uh, so hopefully we get

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to keep going and put more alien movies out there.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that it introduced a lot of

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really cool things and introduced some things that I.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't really like a fan of.

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Speaker 4: But I yeah, I'm not sure how fast I'm gonna

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be rushing to rewatch this.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I still really even with you loving

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the first acts, that the first two acts.

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Speaker 4: That much, Yeah, because I feel like some of the

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stuff we got in the first acts, like the first

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and second act, is stuff like that I like in

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other alien movies that I could get watching those ones

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without having to go through and get to the third

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act of this film. And maybe I'm being just too

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negative on it, but it's just that really pulled me

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Speaker 1: So but to reach his own there you go, teach

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his own. And also just to uh, I just had it.

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I closed the tab, I looked up the definition of

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livid just because I just didn't sound completely right when

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Day said they were living on set or I'll find

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it after I had it. It was like at the

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specific one here, but.

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Speaker 2: It was I feel like, I'm angry, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why it wasn't coming up. I think

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because now my Google did an all search of English

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livid definitions. I don't know, but yeah, they were furioucely

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angry on set, Taylor sets pissed. Yeah. I do want

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behind the scenes because there was a lot of it

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that I was trying to see what was set built

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and what was cgi. There's some stuff that's obvious, but

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this set is like the area is so big that

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clearly they didn't build out this whole thing. But I

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also we don't get much behind the scenes nowadays, but

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there's a lot of stuff. If it wasn't sets, it

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looked real good. You know. So, Dylan, were you Dylan?

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Speaker 3: I was the opposite of living. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That might be a furiously.

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Speaker 3: Happy, angry, furiously happy No for me, Vee. He does it.

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was a homage and not really love letter, but it

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just it shows that there's a lot of love for

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that original material, but just taking that and modernizing it,

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and I feel like that really is the case. There's

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a lot here that falls into like those same Alien

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tropes that appear in every Alien movie pretty much, but

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I think all of it is very tastefully done. None

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of this really feels like nostalgia bait for me. There's

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a couple of things that I am curious to break

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thing in particular that maybe confuses me a lot, but

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maybe I'm overthinking it, so I'm excited to break that down.

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a really great time. I think the acting from like

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the two main actors here is just fantastic and like

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some of my favorite characters now in this whole series,

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the visuals, with one exception, are really really great. So

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one particular thing that we'll bring up later. But yeah,

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most happy about is just to have another alien horror movie.

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first one that is a horror movie, and then after

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of thriller elements here or there. There's certain sequences that

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I had a really great time with this movie. But yeah,

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there are a couple things that hold it back from

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being top notch, so to speak. So I'm yeah excited

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to get into those into those details.

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Speaker 1: Two things you mentioned there, well one thing you didn't mention,

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but It just spawned the thought one. I don't know

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if it's this weekend, but this this movie want me

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to made me want to fire up some Starfield. Like

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some of the scopes and shots Alien Isolation.

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Speaker 3: We don want to go to Starfield.

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Speaker 1: No, because that idea of docking and unknown ship, that's

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what I like in starfields for for Starfield Well, and

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are very alien. Yeah, so that's why I like go

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I could land at. What's in there? You know? Is

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that as an AI? Do you ever get to the

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AI guy? We'll talk well inside quest and then don't

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talk about like certain movies. Next week we will be

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doing if there's any news, we'll cover it. But most importantly,

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we'll be doing an Alien rankings where we'll rank all

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the films. We'll do I yeah, we got I think

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Speaker 3: We could top five.

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Speaker 1: We could find a way honorable mentions and then some

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best scenes. So we will do whether it's rankings or

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rankings and news. But either way, we'll close off the

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retro and the Alien Ramus reviews with some rankings. But

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mister Pats or where where are you today?

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Speaker 2: Is what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Colors going on? I like your colors color the blue

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Speaker 2: Think is what it is?

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Speaker 1: Magenta like it.

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Speaker 2: We'll circle back to that now. I I had very

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very high expectations for this film, and I feel like

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most of my expectations were like on the scariness factor,

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what this is going to be? Like I kept telling people,

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like maybe First twenty misses this film because I'm like,

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a total remaster on it, like it just it like

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eye candy for me, Like I fucking loved I truly

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love this movie. I'm just gonna say that right now.

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I had such a great time with this. I just

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thought they were able to capture, yeah, like all the

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space stuff that Dylan was already mentioning. That really was

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surprised to me. I think, like the scale of what

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more world building on. Like we've had what is this,

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much every other movie of like just seeing different aspects

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honestly it was completely welcomed. It's not a perfect movie

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by any means, which, like, of course I wanted my

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perfect alien movie, but I think this was a really, really,

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really well made movie and yeah, huge Crety to huge Kredy,

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an evil dead level of like frightening and like the

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fear levels of what this movie is. In comparison to

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you know, like coming into it, I'm like I'm expecting

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to be having nightmares tonight. But it's like now that

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alien movie that I truly wanted. So I ended up

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getting the movie that I wanted more so than what

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get what you need exactly.

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really enjoyed it. Oh and just I guess last thing

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before the end of the year.

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because she's like, never mind, I'm already talking about the movie,

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but she's twenty or twenty six. Or something like that.

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that's a sign you're getting old when these people just

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look like babies.

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a not great you know years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's over for me. Yeah no. I I kind

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of agree with a bunch of a mix in here

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where I agree with Kirkhan where it wasn't as scary

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as I was hoping. But I don't think that's a

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negative con. I still had a great time and loved

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it over all. I'd say it's, I think, for sure,

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my top five for this year. So that's where I'm

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with Dylan, and then I'm with Taylor on the third act.

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third act. Will wait and see. I credit Fetti for

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taking some swings. For sure, it's odd he takes some swings,

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but then he also what is it called and uh

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the first two acts are like I won't say perfect,

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but pretty much perfect, have the right amount where I

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feel the third act the Big Swing aside, I feel

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too many line drops, too many exact situations where I go, Okay,

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it does follow. Aliens has a certain tropes that happens

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in every move where that'll happened to happen. But the

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thing is where they're kind of almost it feels not exact,

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but similar to when we talked about like Halloween twenty

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eighteen a long time. Now. It's not as bad as that,

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but there's three to four moments that are just identical

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really did not like. The theater laughed and had a

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good time with it, so I feel like I was

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in the minority, but I was like that was a

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step that was a step two line of like too

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far over the line when like South Park talks about

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member Barris and all that stuff, like that's what the

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third act to me felt a little bit. And then

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they do another thing that it's like, Okay, that's a

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big thing, which I'm I'll need some time to sit

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on that. I can see why people would love that,

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more in the liking it side because I'm always down

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for people to take a swing. Especially in the third

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act it was being kind of just a lot of repetition.

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January between that, so warn this that girl's gonna win

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to Oscar and Day. I promise you, kid, did not

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unless you wants to just keep doing more of the

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genre stuff. But from all three roles, just the versatility

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is great. And then I gotta shout out this guy

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never heard of him before. I think I had not

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seen anything. David Johnson, who played Andy Man that guy,

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Holy geez, he like Kaylee.

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Speaker 2: Was great, David, there you go.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, exactly like Kaylee was great. But David

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almost or he did steal the movie from everybody else

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for a while. I think some stuff in the middle

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happens where that doesn't happen as much. But man, this

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is a guy that right away, in my case, I

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want to see him in a bunch of stuff. Look

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at other things he's done in the past. So and

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all Castle all around was great. There's one character in

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particular I did not like because it felt way too trophy.

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So I think I'm like everyone else here where. For me,

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it was great Top five. I think the visuals are

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just stunning. This is a movie that I was so

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happy I got to see in the theater because I

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remember one point this was supposed to go to Disney

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Plus and Hulu and there's just certain space stuff that

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the first time on a big screen, I would have

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just been sitting there just peoed the whole time. So

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it's a stunning, stunning movie. Like for me, this is

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like we'll see but like it's like probably a lock

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for me Golden Geeks to come visual times because it's

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just like there's so many different environments in just this

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one little area and not within the ship, just even outside.

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mostly all aces. I think that they did do a

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great job of tension. Fetie does a good job of that.

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I think there is some similar Prometheism Covenant characters acting

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a little dumb when you go okay, it's just like

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almost like other than alien one. It's like an alien

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thing where everyone's smart and then this pivotal moment happens

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to go, well maybe I'll do this when you're thinking

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no one's right mind you go I don't know if

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you would, if you would want to do that, But yeah,

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I really liked a lot of the choices, and this

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is one, said Tay, I cannot wait to rewatch this one.

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I'll watch this one, I think quite a bit in

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the future. So I think Vetti, Yeah, he delivered again.

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He's uh, just this don't breathe Evel dead. I'm always

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saying to see what he does next. But yeah, I think, uh,

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just one of the best guys out there as far

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as a genred director and just uh overall, just a great,

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great time. And I'd say, like met expectations, so maybe

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he didn't exceed them, but expectations were high, so that's

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a good thing. So very nice. Anything else non spoilers

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that we want to talk about, Okay, well then we're

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gonna get into it. So if you've not seen the movie,

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I think I think we all recommend it before we

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get there. Do you still recommend it even if you're okay.

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Speaker 3: You're an alien fan, for you're a horror fan. Or

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if you're a fan, go check it out as well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're a VP fan, if I

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check this out, yeah, I would say that too. I

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actually think there's enough in here that it's not like

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you have. There is Easter eggs and allusions to other stuff,

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but it's not like you have to see this to know.

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Like it feels similar to Prometheus that way, where you

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could jump in and just go. You don't need to

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know who Ripley is and the zoomorphs and everything.

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Speaker 2: So it's nice too because it's like it's one of

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those where if I gonna recommend any movie, it's like,

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we'll just watch the first one and like that's really

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all you need for Yeah, I mean you don't even

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need yet, but I'm just saying, like, if you want to.

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sequel in a sense. Again, Yeah, you gotta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's that's the tip of the

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iceberg right there. That's the beginning of it, you know.

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let's let's circle back. We're gonna say you wanted to

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start there, so yeah, let's start there. We're gonna start

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the beginning or the end is the beginning of the end.

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We're gonna go You said the third act was very

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evil deady do you are you? I'm now I think

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I've I understand because I think I speak Taylor Field.

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Are you just are you saying that the abomination was

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maybe too similar to like.

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Speaker 4: A evil dead demon that was just coming.

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Speaker 1: Out of the guy from Smile.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's exactly what it felt like.

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, I can I can see that

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they're going for this play here that's like an alien resurrection.

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And even they executed the creature the same way because oh,

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acid on the wall sucks.

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Speaker 5: The creature out.

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Speaker 4: Kind of a thing there just did not do it

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for me with this thing, and I get it there.

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It's the black Goop, and we know that the Black

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Gup can be very unpredictable and lead to a whole

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array of different things that we've seen.

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Speaker 1: With goop as well, Toodified Goopy Brocus being like David

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over there, he got this stuff, this DN and he's

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just doing experiments on it.

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Speaker 4: So I was apprehensive with the reintroduction of.

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Speaker 5: The Goop, but I was I was.

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Speaker 4: Open to it because I felt like, Okay, this is

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doing something. It's gonna do something new, it's gonna be

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do something different. But the end of the day, the

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reason why I love the first and second acts of

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this movie is because it really just tries to be

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its own thing and feels like it's its own thing.

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Speaker 5: And when you get into.

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it's trying to be its own thing.

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Speaker 4: They're really trying to be that bridge now between everything.

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It's like, I don't need that bridge. I just wanted

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a unique, standalone alien story, which again, you could argue

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that this is exactly what that is, but to me,

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it feels like it was blown up even bigger than

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that because we got them trying to connect the dots

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and be like, oh, yeah, this is you know. Oh

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like I said, pro Whaylan died went missing for trying

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to find the Prometheus whatever.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah that bought me. I was like, yes, for.

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Speaker 5: Me, I don't mind that.

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Speaker 4: I thought, Okay, it's a fun mention there. But then

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when they were showing everything tying in at the end.

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It's just it was too too much. I just like, like,

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just give me classic xenomorph. By the time that thing

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shows up at the end, I felt like, man, even

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the face huggers didn't feel as scary in this movie.

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The Aliens didn't feel as scary anymore in this movie,

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and it was just kind of like they were tense

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moments with the face huggers at the start, but once

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you get through them and you get to the end

474
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,519
and you're dealing with this abomination thing, I look back

475
00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:03,039
at it thought, man, I I love how the again

476
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,160
the first and second acts of this movie were, but

477
00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:09,519
I don't feel like it necessarily has that scary factor.

478
00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:11,960
I feel like, Okay, the Aliens zenos have been turned

479
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,680
into the action packed villains of like the Aliens movie

480
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,319
that we got, and like even like in all these

481
00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:22,880
different projects, I always felt like the face huggers were

482
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,559
for me the most terrifying thing because they can just

483
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:27,960
they're there and they can get you. While they were

484
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,640
always present in the background here, it definitely this movie

485
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,640
conquered my fear, I guess of them because of how

486
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,920
it progressed on how they were dealing with them. But

487
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,559
the most part is I just didn't like them introducing

488
00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:43,359
this abomination thing at the end, evil deady felt like

489
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,480
came out of an economic go on.

490
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: I am so surprised to hear you say this because

491
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,440
you are just a diehard hybrid fan, so I thought

492
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,880
you would love this weird abomination. So you didn't find

493
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,039
you didn't find the abomination. Do we have a name

494
00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:57,440
for this thing? By the way, in my notes, like

495
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,200
called it the baby morph, But I know the can

496
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,279
I know the canon fans.

497
00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:04,759
Speaker 2: They're not offspring? Is what his cast Robert is his

498
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,759
name seven foot seven, gentlemen, the offspring.

499
00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: I'd give it a couple more months and you'll get

500
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,119
an official alien wiki name. I think that. I think

501
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,119
they'll be like a full on put on there, like alien.

502
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Taylor, you weren't. You weren't terrified by offspring?

503
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,759
Speaker 4: No, not really like for me, like when you say hybrids,

504
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:26,720
like I like if the face hugger is jumping on

505
00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:30,039
a different species and like you got the zeno mixed

506
00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:32,279
with that it's host.

507
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,519
Speaker 1: But this like this is a sceno mix with a

508
00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:37,200
horse though, right, because it's like that's what Brooks saying

509
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:40,480
is like he wants to evolve. He wants humans to evolve,

510
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,680
So there's sometimes he has a little bit like a

511
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,839
a different of a David complex, but like the way

512
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,480
to evolve is getting is becoming almost this like new

513
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,319
type of species. Right, So it is to me it's

514
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,920
the closest you've seen human in an alien because I

515
00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:59,480
like the thing is like the face hugger attacks a

516
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:01,319
human and then it comes out of it. Though, is

517
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,599
like it never looks like a human.

518
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah it's five percent human. Yeah, whatever that So this.

519
00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:08,799
Speaker 1: Is the first time we saw like a more closer

520
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,720
to that, right, because it is something different, it's something unique,

521
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,599
which and I will say the face which again I

522
00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:19,279
other than AVP, I do feel like the team Andnfetti

523
00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:22,400
really represented everything in this franchise, and I do think

524
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,720
he is a Prometheus fan. That thing looked like a

525
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,160
fucking engineer if I ever saw on the head. He

526
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,400
had the black eyes, he had the same bone structure.

527
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,400
So I liked that as a call back because the

528
00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:35,720
we in this connuity, we are spawns of the engineers, right,

529
00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:38,079
So it's a kind of like full circle moment where

530
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:41,160
we're spawning a new type of engineer per se.

531
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:43,599
Speaker 3: You know that that poses a lot of questions for

532
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,319
me as well, Like I don't know if it's supposed

533
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:47,519
to be that in hindsight, I didn't really think about

534
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:50,680
this before, but like our engineers supposed to kind of

535
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,519
look baby like, because you know, I think babies like

536
00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:54,480
when they're first born, like their eyes don't have all

537
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,839
the color in them, right, and like they're bald obviously. Yeah,

538
00:24:57,839 --> 00:24:59,599
So I don't know if like that's the ideas that, okay,

539
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:02,640
since this like our primal ancestor they kind of have

540
00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:06,200
like that more baby like fetus like aesthetic and I

541
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,319
never really thought about it that way. But if not,

542
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:11,960
like if this is like, this makes me wonder if, okay,

543
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,519
are the engineers actually an offshoot from humanity? And it

544
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:16,920
makes me rethink things from Prometheus and maybe the order

545
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,640
of events is is truly different because it just looks

546
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,359
so similar to an engineer. And once again, you know

547
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,519
that DNA, that ancient DNA is in humankind obviously discussed

548
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,519
in those movies. So I don't know, it's kind of

549
00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:31,000
like the chicken and egg situation for me is maybe

550
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,720
getting a bit confusing here, But I also it could

551
00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:37,920
just be because in this case, the I guess the

552
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:42,440
goop embodied like this actual fetus rather than like I

553
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,960
guess the chest bursas normally just pop out of random

554
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:47,039
organs and get I don't even know where exactly they

555
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,039
embody from the body. But since it's an actually human

556
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,559
baby fetus that was already kind of half developing.

557
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Like what would have happened if there's no fetus in there?

558
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: Right, But that's what I's confused about, Like I assume

559
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,119
that she actually got a fit hugger, right, Like she

560
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,759
was in the exact same situation that everyone else was

561
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,559
in when they found her, Like she was like stuck

562
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,839
up on the wall like everyone that just gets abducted

563
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:11,880
by an alien, you know, they get thrown on that wall,

564
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,880
and then a face hugger comes and just slurps them up.

565
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,799
And then later on when's because and he's like oh,

566
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,079
or Rain is like, oh, she's losing a lot of blood.

567
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:27,920
It's like that's probably why she hasn't like basically popped

568
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,240
the chest yet, and then like we don't get any

569
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,160
of that, and then later on she shoots herself in

570
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,880
the next So I assumed that it was gonna come

571
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,160
out like a hybrid, you know, alien resurrection looking thing,

572
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,039
and then the goop just like turned it into something

573
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,960
like I saying, that's.

574
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,559
Speaker 4: There's no face hugger carcass below her.

575
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I missed that one.

576
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,319
Speaker 1: Then maybe he was playing.

577
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,799
Speaker 2: So she was just she got fucked up by the

578
00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:59,000
alien and then he was what just saving her for

579
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,519
the goop. That's what I'm confused on.

580
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: I never know, do you mean like the alien saving

581
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:07,839
her or keep.

582
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Well, the alien stabbed her like like yeah, you know

583
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:13,559
with up in the wall, takes her up and then

584
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:15,400
strings her up on the tail. Why would he not

585
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,559
have like face hugger or it's just like oh, lucky,

586
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,839
lucky the face hugger and.

587
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,079
Speaker 1: The other people first before he does.

588
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: That's a bit of a like okay, yeah lucky that happened,

589
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,920
but not really, I guess because the coop.

590
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,079
Speaker 3: He was playing with its food just in general, like

591
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,079
even I was almost surprised when when there was all

592
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,440
the xenomorphs there and they didn't just charge Rain instantly

593
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,880
even though she had the gun, and they kind of

594
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,759
explained it. They're like, oh, they're scared of the guns.

595
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:43,000
That's why they're not gonna Yeah, I didn't buy that,

596
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:45,680
and I was like, I don't know if the alien

597
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:47,440
like the six movies I've seen prior.

598
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: To this, we saw aliens, there's like a swat Commando.

599
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,759
Speaker 3: They're always like, these are different aliens, of course differently

600
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:58,359
and you know their their their DNA structure is going

601
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,960
to be a little bit different. So you can explain

602
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,799
away a little bit of it there. But uh, yeah,

603
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,119
Kirkland Travis, did you like I was fucking terrified of

604
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,319
Office Oh man, I was cringing through that whole thing.

605
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,000
I could barely look at the screen. I just felt

606
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,599
like sick to my stomach and disgusted. I thought the

607
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,759
visual of it and like just the size, the creepy

608
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000
when like the tail is starting to burst through, like

609
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:23,119
little bones are getting added to it. I found that

610
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,559
like ten out of ten peak scary and like cringe

611
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,400
and creepy. It was like all in one. So that's

612
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,400
where I guess for me, the third I really lands

613
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,759
because I was fucking more scared than I had been

614
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:35,400
the whole movie and probably in all of the alien movies.

615
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,799
Maybe like that that was horrifying for me.

616
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think that was probably my peak

617
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,759
frightness moment of the of the film, just because it's

618
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:47,680
funny too. How much like I was such a hater

619
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:50,519
of Resurrection and the whole hybrid situation in that movie.

620
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:52,839
I fucking hated the design. I just was not a

621
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,559
fan of that at all. So I'm like total opposite

622
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,920
here where I just I like the uncertainty as well.

623
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:03,240
When rain cakes like the the egg thing, like the

624
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:06,640
just the womb like whatever the hello was in the

625
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160
cocoon and then drops it and then it's about to

626
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,599
like ice it, and then you just see like a

627
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,039
baby's face and it's like, holy fuck, like this is

628
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:16,480
actually a child, and then you know, slurps down into

629
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,319
the into the cargo area and you just hear it

630
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,759
like like basically exiting the egg, and like you just

631
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,319
hear some noises and I'm just like, what the fuck

632
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,240
is this thing going to look like? Like, holy shit,

633
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,640
this is so terrifying, especially just it kind of was

634
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,839
a callback I actually to the first alien when it

635
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,960
pops out of the chest fucks off and you're like,

636
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,559
what is this thing even gonna look like the next

637
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,960
time we see it? Like that to capture that magic,

638
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,039
I thought that was a really special moment and then yeah,

639
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,960
when you see it in the hallway and it's just

640
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,720
so much bigger than what I was expecting, and yeah,

641
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:52,759
like just having like the engineer like head but it's

642
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,079
like a really long neck and it was it was disturbing.

643
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,279
So I was a big fan of the hybrid this

644
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:03,920
time around. But yeah, so that all that really really

645
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,920
worked for me. Actually, I thought the ending was gonna

646
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,799
be like basically the exact same as a resurrection, where

647
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:13,359
it just like just spaghettifies like into space. You know,

648
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,279
it's like trying to get through that tiny little hole

649
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,720
and then it just ends up like blowing up. But uh, yeah,

650
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,759
I liked I. I was a fan of it. I

651
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:23,920
felt like it was fitting and it was able to

652
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:28,359
just like have me and that uncertainty of like I

653
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:29,799
don't even know what we're gonna see now, Like I

654
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:31,960
know it's not gonna be like a regular xenomorph, but

655
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,079
it's gonna be freaky, and it definitely was.

656
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,759
Speaker 1: I think I'm most like positive on it. I really

657
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,680
like the engineer choice. I think it's something where of

658
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,079
course all the aliens are CGI, but when you get

659
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,319
closer to human skin, it stands like a bit more so,

660
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:49,799
it's it's like kind of that Uncanny Valley thing where

661
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,079
sometimes it looks real and sometimes it's just a very

662
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,400
shiny prop thing that I'm I'm. I think it's the

663
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,640
issue for me is at times I lose the oh

664
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,119
i'm And this is a movie where I think with

665
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,480
the Aliens, when they're done correctly, it's okay, I'm I'm

666
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,359
in the alien world. But it's like, okay, I'm watching

667
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,799
a cgi giant baby right now. That's like Alien five.

668
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,319
So I'm mostly positive. I think I'm like a seventy

669
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640
thirty on it. I think I need another watch. I

670
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,160
think as far as like how people are gonna feel

671
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,960
about it, I think it's gonna be, like Taylor, I

672
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,559
think it's gonna be the most mixed thing about this

673
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:23,920
because I can see a lot of people not enjoying that,

674
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000
because I think if you don't like Prometheus or Covenant,

675
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,160
it kind of leans on that a bit, and I

676
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,000
think it's just again it's I agree with to Taylor.

677
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,839
There is a sense of evil dead, more supernatural because

678
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,000
it is a more humanoid thing, and that is kind

679
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:42,319
of some of Fetti's I don't know, not callbacks, but

680
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,240
just some of his strength. So yeah, I need another

681
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,920
watch up. But I think the execution of how the

682
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,799
events go are really good. I think when and I

683
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,200
really liked her too, Isabelle Ohmer said, like, I really

684
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:54,960
liked her in this movie, especially hear the back happ

685
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:57,079
She's knocked out a bit when she's having to react

686
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,920
these scenes. Not an easy actress thing to do, where Okay,

687
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:01,720
you gotta act as things come out of you and

688
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:03,839
you don't know what it is. But like just seeing

689
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,680
the different egg where it came out and it was

690
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,160
like a it was more of an egg coming out

691
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,599
and then it had like layers to it, and I

692
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,480
loved it. About to go to bed, not a great

693
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,680
time for them to try and put Annie to sleep

694
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:17,680
or reboot. That was my one thing, Like I get

695
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,359
that he's tired, but I feel like, uh, maybe wait

696
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,839
a couple a couple hours before he sits down, because

697
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,200
right away things go to crap and that ship's crashing

698
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,400
and they just shoot Anne and he's just like passed

699
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:28,759
out there.

700
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: So maybe made me wait a little go right, Like

701
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:32,240
that was the whole thing.

702
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: No, Andy the robot, they put him to sleep, right,

703
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,599
and I just think like.

704
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,079
Speaker 2: You're saying, like him put himself.

705
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just because like and I was just surprised

706
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,480
too when the ship was starting to crash, he didn't

707
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,759
automatically wake up. It took like a couple of minutes

708
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:48,359
and he woke up. But again, it's just one of

709
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,519
those Okay, for the plot, he needs to not be

710
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,720
because like we've seen that before, where like David or

711
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:55,880
other people there around for the humans right to there,

712
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,079
that's their job is to watch. I know that's the point.

713
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:00,119
He's not supposed to be a robot, but like in

714
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,440
this situation where it's all gonna shit, and also because

715
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,799
she's injured too, write the other girl K like, I

716
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:08,880
feel like that's like okay, not that they should know

717
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,160
that a chest burst was basicly gonna happen, but she

718
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,079
is injured. They literally said, if we don't get you appad,

719
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,480
you're probably gonna die. So I feel like, maybe just

720
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,920
watch your vitals for a little bit. But throwing that

721
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,720
stuff aside, I love the escalation of the things beeping

722
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,880
at saying it's vital. They pull her out, it's fallen

723
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,960
through the crates. I loved that little like docking they

724
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,920
had the sand I thought that was a good kind

725
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,319
of set piece there so, and I love all the

726
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:34,160
build up to you know, hit crawls and you see

727
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,279
a little bit of it. I loved the Engineer look

728
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,640
and like when the comments are putting in there as

729
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,720
far as like, I don't know what it was trying

730
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,480
to do with k if it was trying to feed

731
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:45,799
on her, because it didn't have the same situation in

732
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,279
Resurrection where it sees Sigorney and it's like just it

733
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:55,039
gives up. Yeah right, it's just very just obedient to

734
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:57,680
Signore where this was not. And again I don't know

735
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,000
if it was threatening or I don't know if it

736
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:02,240
was trying to get some sort of life source from

737
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:04,720
or anything like that. But so yeah, I gotta think

738
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,559
about the look and everything a bit more. I was

739
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:10,000
trying to look at the entire body. Had an interesting

740
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:11,920
situation going on. The pelvis region.

741
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,679
Speaker 2: It looked like like a little mouth. I thought that

742
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,400
was gonna be as second mouth for a second, but.

743
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it reminds me of those uh whatever took

744
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,320
over the Engineer and Prometheus. They have those like little

745
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,000
ye like sucker things there. So again I like the design.

746
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:26,519
I think it's one of these things where it's in

747
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,320
the universe. Especially, it's not like someone else did Ridley

748
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,679
Scott did that. He's the guy that did Alien, so

749
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,000
it's like that's to me, it all makes sense. Yeah,

750
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,440
I'm mostly positive on it, but I appreciate them doing

751
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:40,000
something different. It was like what we said is the

752
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:42,239
fourth time an Alien movie where they defeat the alien,

753
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,000
they get on the ship and then something happens. I

754
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:47,480
did like this was the cause because she decided to

755
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,000
take some medicine, but it was that trope again and

756
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,960
just other stuff of I get it to space. But

757
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,840
I felt like the build up to Kaylee putting on

758
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,960
the suit was pretty much identical to what Sigournia did.

759
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,400
Hate it, absolutely hate it. The get away from her

760
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,480
bitch line I that to me was just way just

761
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:07,000
too much. And Predator I'm kind of fine that because

762
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Predator sometimes is more comedic and it's like a winking.

763
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,639
This movie was so serious that just like, well, I

764
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:14,639
would say, even the Bitch like that. So the third

765
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,159
act for me, that was more my problems, not so much.

766
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:19,880
Even the Abomination was just I thought they're getting really

767
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,800
into the like, eh, you've seen Alien, right, you remember this?

768
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,239
And I was like, okay, Act one and two, I

769
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,360
thought that the right amounts.

770
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's a tricky thing when when we

771
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,480
compare this to Evil Dead, which is weird, it's like,

772
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:34,320
is that a remake or is it like a sequel,

773
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,800
Like we don't really have like a definitive answer, but

774
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,800
I think since it does feel more remaking, it's okay

775
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,719
to repeat some of those kinds of things more. But

776
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,360
since this is a sequel, it's weird for characters to

777
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,719
have like identical dialogue to someone else. And some of

778
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,960
those other things do make sense, and I wasn't really

779
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,760
bothered by them. I think, yeah, maybe the dialogue was

780
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,559
like slightly over the top in terms of the callback stuff,

781
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,719
but for the most part, I think it was pretty tasteful.

782
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,639
And I don't know I even going to this. I'm like, guy,

783
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,320
I know that they're gonna get away on the ship

784
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,760
and there's gonna be something on board, like it just

785
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,480
always happens in these movies. I've kind of just accepted

786
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:09,559
it at this point, so.

787
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:11,559
Speaker 1: Which like the third activity is great of like when

788
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:14,440
they're doing the whole shooting the aliens, the gravity, the acid,

789
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,039
I'm like, oh, you can end the movie after this,

790
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:18,519
like this is something we haven't seen in Aliens before,

791
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,800
and that's like a raret. He says, like, oh, this

792
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,199
is top runch. You don't got to do anything else,

793
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,639
and they wanted to. But I love that whole gravity sequence.

794
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:29,559
That was very well done. Just that acid coming at

795
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,920
you because we'd seen the trailers, but I'd never put

796
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,840
two and two together. That was the Aliens blood acid

797
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,519
in the air. I was like, man, that would be horrifying.

798
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:39,840
You take one wrong bump and your just face. It's

799
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,480
just like we saw what happen to the guy earlier,

800
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:42,920
you know.

801
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: The guy earlier. Yeah, whatever it it's funny because like

802
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,840
I really did Jorn.

803
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:57,159
Speaker 1: Someone might say I don't recall them saying his name

804
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,280
at all in this movie. I'm sure they did, but

805
00:36:59,320 --> 00:36:59,960
I don't remember.

806
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,159
Speaker 5: Oh.

807
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: I felt like in the early portion of the movie too,

808
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,280
I don't know if I'm just going to death, but

809
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,559
I'm like, I can't fucking understand anything they're saying. I

810
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,960
know Bjorn had like a heavy accent too, but I'm like,

811
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,320
I am so relying on subtitles these days. That's like

812
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,239
my one downfall when we go to movies.

813
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,079
Speaker 1: But that's just getting close to thirty.

814
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: That's just yeah exactly. I think I was just crunching

815
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,760
popcorn too loud. The little people who don't have so

816
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,639
embarrassing Yeah you should. It's a twenty eight year old man,

817
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:30,559
I'm asking for the fucking caption device. But no. Yeah,

818
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,679
Like as much as I like the Offspring, I still

819
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,559
just felt like it's like, man, like I'm still missing

820
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,320
my xenomorphs here, Like, like there was a couple in

821
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,199
this movie. I think they had some decent moments. By

822
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,159
no means, is it like peak alien though, or like

823
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,400
in the sense of like xenomorphs really popping off. In

824
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,400
my mind, they had a little bit of a different

825
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,760
design to them. It seemed like sometimes they had like

826
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,119
almost like electricity going like off in their head. I

827
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:00,480
don't know if you guys notice that, or if it

828
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:02,800
was just like maybe a reflection off the head, like

829
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,559
it just it just shined.

830
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: For to act that. You know, it's just like Palpatine

831
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:09,760
just like shooting lightning, it.

832
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: Killing in the elevator shaft, the close one of yeah,

833
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,360
you know the Zeno skull was cracked and yeah there's

834
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,480
electricity sparking.

835
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm not crazy.

836
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: Oh, but I get what you're saying, Creer. It's tough.

837
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,360
It's like it's like they're reinventing the wheel you can.

838
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,159
For me, you can just never top the like the

839
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,840
Perdalien has like some sentimental because like, Okay, that's fun,

840
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,679
put the presser in the alien together. I get it.

841
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,039
But other than that, I feel like, and I'm fine

842
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:41,159
with them taking a swing and doing a more for hybrid,

843
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:44,199
but it's like it's always tough to talk that original design,

844
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,039
and that's where it's just like, like, what can you do.

845
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,320
It's like, well, we'll make like a human engineer alien type,

846
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,679
but you always still go, oh, like I still like

847
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,159
that Zeno. But then it's been done before, right, so

848
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,480
you're not You're stuck.

849
00:38:56,559 --> 00:38:58,559
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm totally with you, Kirk. And I think

850
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:01,519
that to me, the Zeno more this is not their

851
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,239
best showing in terms of scary factor or a cool moments factor,

852
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,400
or even like personality, because sometimes some of these aliens

853
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,599
do have like a little bit more personality than others,

854
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:14,360
and sometimes they're just like binary killing machines pretty much.

855
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,800
But I think on the opposite side of it, I mean,

856
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,679
one the as I already mentioned, the offspring I think

857
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,760
is fantastic, but also I think this is the best

858
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,960
face huggers have ever been in alien. I thought they

859
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:26,840
I think the visuals of it, like you know, when

860
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,360
we go back to those some of those first ones,

861
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,440
like especially like the first aliens, like the CG or

862
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,280
the effects that they use for that not CG does

863
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,679
not hold up for me, Like it looks awful, looks cheap,

864
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,719
it looks really goofy. And then I think we've kind

865
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,440
of had been hit or miss with the CGI of

866
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,360
them over the years. But I think the the creepiness

867
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,800
of them, like the little movements. They were very spider

868
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,639
like in this, and they were also like a lot

869
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,519
there's a lot more of them than usual, and you

870
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,519
have characters like smacking them away with baseball bats, and

871
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,119
I think which I think is funny because I think

872
00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:59,920
it gets a bit tiring if like face huggers out

873
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,599
hundredercent accuracy rate and they always instantly hit the face

874
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:05,920
and always get that kill instantly. So I thought they

875
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,679
were really really fun in this. I feel like they're

876
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,960
bigger too than they normally are, which gave that extra

877
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,559
scare factor. But like that sequence we had when they

878
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:15,719
had to sneak through that one hallway by turning the

879
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,679
temperature ups and they had to kind of go through

880
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:19,960
there and not you know, try not to make any

881
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,920
reactions whatsoever. The creepiness that really worked for me. It

882
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,920
felt like a sequence out of Don't Breathe or something

883
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,039
fun enough. But I really liked that in just in general,

884
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:31,119
I thought that their their movements and like their numbers

885
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:33,280
were really effective and really scary.

886
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: In this reminded me of like Last of Us when

887
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,840
you're going through like a clicker area and it's just

888
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,679
like you're like trying to be quiet. I yeah, I

889
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,199
I don't know if it's like my favorite version of it,

890
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,159
just because I don't know, like it's interest Like I

891
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:52,000
feel like this is the movie where they're probably the

892
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,599
least accurate, Like like like I was so I was

893
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:57,519
so expecting both of those gentlemen to just get the

894
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:00,760
face huggers, like right away in that area. I think

895
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,880
they're in like the cryo chamber room and they're getting

896
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,760
the fuel. I'm just so used to Like as soon

897
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,599
as we get face hugger in the water, it's like, Okay,

898
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,719
they're getting whoever's there, and they both managed to make

899
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,440
it out. You know, one of them got some face

900
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,760
hugger limb in the mouth, but they managed to get

901
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,159
it off and out of there, which I'm just so

902
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,639
used to them being that accurate. So yeah, I don't know.

903
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,039
I think I need to think about her, maybe like rewatch,

904
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,480
to really see how I feel on her overall, because

905
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,039
I just really love like the original when we like

906
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:33,880
see it, it's just the one and it's like, what

907
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,840
the fuck even is this thing and they're dissecting it

908
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,960
and just trying to figure out what it is, Whereas

909
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,239
this version felt a lot more like the flood from Halo.

910
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,480
I think, like just how fast and yeah, not the

911
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:48,599
show by any means, but the rest and peace of

912
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:52,119
that show, but in the games, just how fast and

913
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:56,039
like overwhelming the flood can feel because they have a

914
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,679
similar creature, right, even like Half Life has a similar creature.

915
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,239
I'm sure they're all inspired by it by these these

916
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:06,280
you know, really Scott's version, But yeah, I don't know.

917
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,440
I'm I'm just kind of in the middle. I'm undecided,

918
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,159
But I did think that they're really freaky, especially when

919
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:13,400
it goes to the sequences of them just like all

920
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,280
going in like the events and you just see like

921
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:18,039
it what seems to be like over twenty of them

922
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:20,559
in that moment. I'm like, oh my gosh. When they're

923
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,920
just like thawing in the early stages, I'm like, they're fucked.

924
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,360
There's no way anyone's making out of this movie. You

925
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,719
I'm just seeing that many thoughts out like no, there's

926
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,280
no way.

927
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: I'll say I'm perfectly satisfied with both the face hugger

928
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,639
and the Zeno. I don't know if it's like they're

929
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:37,639
best showing for either of them, but I'm like both.

930
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:37,639
Speaker 3: Like.

931
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: I guess double thumbs up. What sounds like that showing,

932
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,360
but just that's what it is. It's two thumbsd like

933
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,480
z you know, I really like the entrance of the

934
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:47,039
first one. I think they do a good I think

935
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:49,360
they do a good build up. We think about it. Also,

936
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,320
we got some of them Incovenant, but getting like a

937
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,880
proper Zino. You haven't really seen that since, you know,

938
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:57,119
I guess AVP two. So I like that there is

939
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,159
an escalation, it's not face hugger guy gets it and

940
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:02,719
then boom the things out there. It's like you see Okay,

941
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,840
you see the one break out of the one lady

942
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,239
and then it goes off, and then you get that

943
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,360
big egg and it breaks out there and you see

944
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,239
like the like the wrists cracking and you actually see

945
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,480
it growing. Like I think that's what I appreciated. Where

946
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:16,519
in the originals, I'll see Alien one and two they

947
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:20,079
have these great animatronics and these great machines, but you

948
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,400
can't show this type of stuff where it's like moving

949
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,360
and growing, right, because like they just couldn't do that.

950
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,800
So that's where I thought, that's the perfect when CGI

951
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,199
exists for a reason. That's why it is as a showcase.

952
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,400
Alien come out of the egg and you can see

953
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,119
literally take its form. So I think that's where maybe

954
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,440
if I think near the end they get little aliens,

955
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,320
which I don't like where it' says Okay, Kyler spinning

956
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,360
is a gun and she's just taking these things out

957
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,440
very easily, right, a couple of shots and they're dead.

958
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,639
But that aside, that's just something that happens post Alien

959
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:50,199
where yeah, I need that in Starfill too, you know,

960
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,039
like helping out a lot. Yeah, it's pretty much just

961
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:56,719
that was that thing Vat's from follow But that's that's

962
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,119
where it's just like, Okay, I'm not a fan of

963
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:02,440
how the aliens have become squishy later on in the franchise,

964
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:04,679
but the fact that they are so for me. I

965
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,679
and I actually really loved the moment of when they

966
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,800
got oh God who was the semi male love interest

967
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,599
but didn't end up happening til yeah, when he gets

968
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:16,280
brought up. Yeah not yeah, not that one. He's still survived.

969
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,719
But when they bring him up and he's just hooked

970
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,480
and you think it's already bad enough that it's won.

971
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,880
First he gets the the mouth socket to the eye,

972
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,480
so that's terrible, and then when he looks over, he

973
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:30,840
just sees like five more full grown xenomorphs climbing and

974
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,840
they they have this great shot too where I think

975
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,400
they see Giddend later but they look up at the

976
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,079
well and this blood's coming down. I do think I

977
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:40,480
know why they probably didn't do it, but I thought

978
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,239
they missed an opportunity. I thought we were gonna get

979
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,159
a shot like a nope with the house when it's

980
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,360
like the blood's fall, I thought that was casewing is

981
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,880
gonna walk under and all that dude's blood was gonna

982
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,639
be falling on So I think they they missed a

983
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:53,960
really cool shot there, but that's a moment for me.

984
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,360
I really liked there, and even the anticipation of the

985
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,360
door again it's it's xenomorph adjacent but with him or so,

986
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:04,480
with them or the one her, whatever that zeno is.

987
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,679
I don't know what gender it's gonna be. And then

988
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,679
Andy like that great build up of it's watching even

989
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:11,960
and he says like, oh, no, they want the door

990
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:14,400
to open, and it's just it's perched there for a

991
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,360
little bit, because we know that about aliens they can

992
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,599
be like sometimes a bit more savvy. So it's just

993
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,400
sitting there literally just watching like like a predator, like

994
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,320
waiting to see what they're gonna do. And then when

995
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,159
it realized, oh they're not open the door, I'm just

996
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:27,639
gonna skew her. So I had and you guys already

997
00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:29,199
mention all the face hugger moments and stuff and the

998
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,800
event stuff in the water. I had standouts for kind

999
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,199
of all them. So I was happy with the usage

1000
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,639
of them all here, and I thought they all looked good.

1001
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:38,880
I know they used a mix of practical and CGI

1002
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,719
and I think this is probably I could say, the

1003
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,400
best looking maybe because in the original Aliens sometimes you

1004
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,800
still have you're limited by a suit and an alien covenant.

1005
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,280
They went overboard on the CGI, like we talked about

1006
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,159
right where it's okay, there's too much so this to

1007
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,519
be like a perfect blend of live action and CG

1008
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:01,559
Aliens going on. For me, right on, what about you, TA,

1009
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,719
because you said you had some issues with the face huggers,

1010
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,880
you said the non spoilers, I felt like.

1011
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: They were just not as scary by the end of it.

1012
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,679
Speaker 4: I think it started off scary when they were in

1013
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:13,920
that room, they're locked up with it and they're swimming around.

1014
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 5: Going into the events.

1015
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:16,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1016
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: Maybe for me it was when they panned to the

1017
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,920
door and you see all the fucking face hugger fingers

1018
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,239
in the crack at the door, like flipping out of

1019
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:25,519
that man.

1020
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 5: That freaked me out. That was creepy.

1021
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1022
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,159
Speaker 4: And yeah, I just I liked that they were reoccurring

1023
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,599
throughout the hallway scene. That was really fun. I liked

1024
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:36,599
that they were able to kind of conquer that. But

1025
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:41,000
again they're they're conquering of them, and they're upping of

1026
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,679
the defeating of the face huggers. For me, as a viewer,

1027
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:48,000
it was like, okay, like it. It didn't create that

1028
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,559
fear factor. It created that conquering factor of these things

1029
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:54,239
like okay, especially when the guy was being a jerk

1030
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,679
the cousin, and he's just like baseball batting every single

1031
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,119
one and he made even without like it just blew

1032
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,280
my mind because he was just like landing every hit,

1033
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,079
hit hit, hit hit. I was like, man, Okay, he's

1034
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:11,000
really doing a good job here, which is kind of

1035
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,239
blowing my mind because he seems kind of like an

1036
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,719
idiot later on with some of his decisions.

1037
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,639
Speaker 1: But I guess the only thing I'll try to defend

1038
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:20,519
is at least the other times. Most times the face

1039
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:24,000
huggers get someone they don't They might not have a prep.

1040
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:25,519
It's just like what's that? Then they get hit. At

1041
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:27,599
least this is they already know something in the water

1042
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:30,519
and he almost gets attacked by face huggers, so they

1043
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,639
are on the attack. Do I think you should have

1044
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:34,920
like maybe been home running them all? Maybe not. That

1045
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:36,719
is the fear you have when you have like twenty

1046
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,880
face huggers around, So I can I can see that critique,

1047
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,280
But at least it is like they're more on the attack, right.

1048
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 5: So that's fair.

1049
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 4: I would have loved to have just gotten a little

1050
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,000
bit more of these Zeno morphs, though, because I feel

1051
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,400
like they kind of got not a lot of just

1052
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:55,039
visual screen time. I feel like we got quick cuts

1053
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,480
of different angles of different xenomorphs, and I feel like

1054
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,800
by the time the scene.

1055
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:03,079
Speaker 5: Was over was like, Oh, that's that's it. Like, that's unfortunate.

1056
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:04,679
Speaker 4: I would have really like, especially because we've gone to

1057
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,400
the Hive to get longer shots. There's one shot that

1058
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,639
was just beautiful, and I feel like it was so short.

1059
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,039
Was when they were down the hall and you see

1060
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:15,280
the hive and you see the one Zeno standing up

1061
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,199
and the face huggers crawling on the walls and on

1062
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,599
the ground around it, and you had the blue floor

1063
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:20,159
lights too.

1064
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, awesome.

1065
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 4: But the shot ended so quick, and I hate that,

1066
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,039
and I wish that it was just extended a little

1067
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:27,559
bit more.

1068
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: Just like they're trying to be like the original to

1069
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,280
I think they're trying even though they have the budgets.

1070
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,280
I think they're trying to do the like don't show

1071
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,000
it too much.

1072
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. I can respect that, But at the

1073
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,159
same time, if you like or what do you what

1074
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,840
is your goal? Are you going for it to still

1075
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,199
be scary, because I'm not scared of the Zeno's at

1076
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:48,519
this point anymore. On this movie, I think it's it's uncomfortable.

1077
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:50,880
But like by the time we get to the point

1078
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,480
where she which is an awesome scene where she goes

1079
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:56,079
zero G and the blood acid blood is just floating

1080
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:58,599
in little cloud pockets. But when we get to this

1081
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:01,480
scene and she's just letting them up, they're definitely again

1082
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:04,320
not scary, not scary at all. It felt like it

1083
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,199
was a lot scarier having one. And that moment when

1084
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,159
they were gonna take the black oop and go into

1085
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:11,599
the hallway and Rain's like stop, do you see it?

1086
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:13,559
And you look at the camera and you can just

1087
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,119
see it like moving kind of to the side in

1088
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:16,719
the hallway.

1089
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 5: That was scary, And I wish that we got more

1090
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,000
of that. And that's why at the end of.

1091
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: The day, I wish that it was just a small

1092
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,119
isolated event in the Alien verse. You know, keep all

1093
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:29,800
the face huggers in there, but just keep it like

1094
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,159
one alien just running around with these guys hunting them.

1095
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: But then do you not just then you just get

1096
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,519
alien again?

1097
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: You do, but then you're having all these aliens you get,

1098
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:45,559
you get aliens, and then you.

1099
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: Do yeah you do. But as one that's where it's

1100
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,480
like they I think they tried to do. It is

1101
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:55,599
tough because I think there's a calm where you got alien,

1102
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:58,239
you got aliens, you do have alien resurrection in there,

1103
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:00,559
and then just a calm of every they're trying to

1104
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,159
make it a weapon, right, because that's the plot. We

1105
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,440
learned that. Okay, they they found somehow they found the

1106
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,199
corpse which was rumored that up being true. They found

1107
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,239
the corpse of the one that Ripley kicked off the ship. Yeah,

1108
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:14,760
and also that one got killed, but they had enough

1109
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:16,559
to get DNA and stuff in there.

1110
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,639
Speaker 4: Sound like it was alive, like yeah, like it went

1111
00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:22,159
into a stasis and then they captured it.

1112
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't need air, didn't need food, killed it right, yeah, exactly,

1113
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,440
and then the crew that could get out of there

1114
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,320
got out of there. So it is tough, but I

1115
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,280
think it's almost similar. I think we talked about that

1116
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,000
either on Covenant or whatnot. It's like, what is there

1117
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:37,199
left to do with aliens? Right, Like that's the thing

1118
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:40,159
where it's just you went the Prometheus route, and a

1119
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:41,800
lot of people don't like that of I don't want

1120
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,840
this stuff answer, So then it's just more adventures and

1121
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,519
I think that's why.

1122
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 4: That's that's where they could win. Though I feel like

1123
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,960
because this, to me, this movie feels like like a

1124
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,079
sequel or like a third part or something like that.

1125
00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:57,119
I think it's been so long since we had that

1126
00:50:57,159 --> 00:51:00,199
original alien, so long since Aliens, and even that it's

1127
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,880
been a good amount of time since Covenant and Prometheus.

1128
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,159
I feel like, Okay, they could have just kept it simple,

1129
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,039
back to basics. Uh.

1130
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:10,159
Speaker 1: I still think they did the first part, but.

1131
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:12,119
Speaker 4: Like for me again, the first act and the second

1132
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:14,039
act where it was just still that one alien and

1133
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:15,880
ok wrong, I like seeing the other Aliens, but it

1134
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,440
was just the one alien and you get the face

1135
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,079
huggers like it was really engaging and it felt like.

1136
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 5: Okay, this is this is cool.

1137
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 4: It's simple, and it's terrifying, and it has a lot

1138
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,239
of the right elements for just that that alien movie

1139
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,480
that we've been craving and kind of wanting. It's bringing

1140
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,000
all those good things back, and then it just yeah.

1141
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,079
Speaker 1: The So how would you have felt that the movie

1142
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,480
ended if they didn't. Let's say they do the acid

1143
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:41,119
gravity thing, happy ending, it just ends. How do you

1144
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:41,800
feel at the movie?

1145
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: Then?

1146
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 4: Well that's exactly what we have here, right, Like no,

1147
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:48,880
like no, I meant no happy ending.

1148
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,159
Speaker 1: I meant like no, like the Isbell whatever her name is?

1149
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 4: Kay?

1150
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Was it okay? The pregnant one? Like, none of the

1151
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,760
abomination stuff happens? Are you fine satisfied with the movie?

1152
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: More?

1153
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: If it just ends with the gravity scene, they get

1154
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,280
on that ship and they get out of.

1155
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:08,159
Speaker 4: There, I would have changed it a little bit because

1156
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:11,199
you still had Rook kind of looming around.

1157
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: But he was gonna explod in the ship though, right

1158
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,719
he was a gone that.

1159
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:16,599
Speaker 4: He was still able to call the shots from where

1160
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:19,360
he was though, And I feel like, okay, he could

1161
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,760
have he could have done some things. I mean, he

1162
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,079
didn't obviously want these people to get away. He was

1163
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:26,800
kind of being an ass about it. But he could

1164
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,400
have directed the alien towards them. He could open up doors.

1165
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:31,079
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't want to do that. The alien would

1166
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,239
have just destroyed the science project, right, So that was

1167
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,039
that was a non non grata. What do we think

1168
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:39,960
about that we got? You know, I feel like we've

1169
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,880
had it all between happened years ago with Rogue one

1170
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,679
when we got grand Math, when I'm uh turm off

1171
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,119
tark and I think there's been other characters that we've

1172
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,039
covered over the years. Oh this actors passed away and

1173
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:54,280
here it goes. And I thought it was going to

1174
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,119
be an actor of note, but I did not think

1175
00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:59,440
it was gonna be like a recreation of Ian Holme,

1176
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,360
who did pass away four years ago. So I imagine

1177
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,440
as a state said yes to all this and everything,

1178
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,719
but it's not his voicees, not him acting. So it

1179
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,800
is like the Tarken thing where they probably if somebody

1180
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,800
doing it. So I was still I was caught off

1181
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,320
guard by it. I think I still like it. I

1182
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,519
guess it's not like I think it's something I need

1183
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:21,440
to sit on more, because you easily could have got

1184
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,519
another established actors, like, oh, this is a new whatever,

1185
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,719
but they're trying to paint it in the realm of

1186
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,079
close to alien, right, So but surprising nonetheless, because that

1187
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:33,760
the theater pot for that one too. There's quite a

1188
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,719
few people. And then they showed his face like, oh

1189
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,639
Stern in the show. Oh, you know, there's some excitement there, So.

1190
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: That makes sense. I that was in my nonspoilers what

1191
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,440
I mentioned. I just think the CGI looked atrocious. Set

1192
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,880
times looked so bad to me. And that's the only

1193
00:53:47,079 --> 00:53:49,800
like I in theory. I like everything about it. It

1194
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,119
makes sense that these synthetics are made in kind of

1195
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:55,960
batches based off the same likeness, so we should be

1196
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,239
seeing more of the similar ones. And we have seen

1197
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:04,079
some of that before, particularly with David and the Walt

1198
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:06,920
is the is the new one there? But Rook, I

1199
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,079
guess is like the name of this model, I guess

1200
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:11,800
is what we're calling it. Yeah, but obviously not the

1201
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,840
same one as Ash. So I in theory, I really

1202
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,679
like all that, and I feel like for me too,

1203
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,599
it's like, okay, the mechanics of how this synthetic works,

1204
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,519
it feels very similar to what Ash was like in

1205
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,800
the original one in terms of simple directives, just like

1206
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,199
whaling Utani, just like trying to keep that the tech alive,

1207
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,639
trying to keep the alien alive, get that information back

1208
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:35,519
to whaling Utani, similar goals in that way, and just

1209
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:38,039
trying to like do it in like as conniving ways

1210
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:39,880
as possible, and going into this it's we kind of

1211
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,079
know how alien one goes and how evil that character is.

1212
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:46,239
I feel like they don't really need to mess around

1213
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,360
with like, oh, this is a friendly android for a bit,

1214
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,079
Like I feel like they're kind of just from the

1215
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:53,079
get go our characters don't really trust them, don't really

1216
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:54,559
want to work with them. And then it's only through

1217
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,800
Andy do things get kind of change when the when

1218
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,639
he gets his prime directive change. So for me, all

1219
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,440
that really worked, with the exception of of the just

1220
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:06,519
atrocious CGI.

1221
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they could have kept him shadowed a

1222
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,840
bit more. They like they like made sure like the

1223
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,519
fucking just like light them up. It's like this ship

1224
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:16,840
is like ranside, like have them near like that computer station.

1225
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,480
Have it be somewhat dark, like you don't need to

1226
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:20,639
like or even.

1227
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: The screw through like a lot of different angles camera

1228
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,840
angles for him too, And I'm like, this one looks

1229
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,039
good right now. And then we zoom in like really close,

1230
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:29,800
and it's like, oh no, like why are we doing this?

1231
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: And then it goes on the monitor. It's fine because

1232
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,480
it's like, oh well, it's a monitor, so it's like,

1233
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:34,719
you know, it's distorted.

1234
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,679
Speaker 2: You know, I just really wanted to get close and

1235
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:38,800
it just it looked like one of those like weird

1236
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,360
like AI like just phone app things were just like

1237
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,480
face swaps with like a celebrity, and yeah, it's like,

1238
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,880
do we need to be doing this? I don't know,

1239
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,039
Like I I do like that. It is like I

1240
00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:53,320
like seeing Ian Holmes face on there, especially just thinking

1241
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:58,559
back to what's his character even ash Ashy Yeah, okay, uh,

1242
00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:01,239
just going back to that original So it was fun

1243
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,119
to have him here with a different well obviously it's

1244
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:07,639
not the same character, but just like same sort of

1245
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,840
same goals exactly. And I really liked the whole dynamic

1246
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,400
that he had with Andy and how it just totally

1247
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,000
switched his psyche and I didn't really mention it, but yeah,

1248
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,000
I fucking loved Andy in this like what like a

1249
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:26,239
like a hidden gem that was I don't know, like

1250
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,760
I remember sort of like one of the trailers, but

1251
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,400
like I was trying to go into this as black

1252
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,960
as possible. I assumed we're gonna get an android, but

1253
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,679
like I didn't really and they don't hide him right

1254
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,920
like right early on in the movie they showcase that

1255
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,239
he is a synthetic and I just I don't know,

1256
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,119
I think this was This was probably one of my

1257
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,320
favorite actually like if if we had to do a

1258
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,440
rankings of like our synthetics. I don't know if we're

1259
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,960
doing that in the Aliens, but like definitely would be

1260
00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:55,400
up there for just for just kind of like the

1261
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,840
levels that he has. Like he's not like he's super

1262
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:02,280
what's the way to say, Like, I love the dynamic

1263
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:04,800
that him and Rain had and it just kind of

1264
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,159
feels us in about like somewhat of a family dynamic

1265
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:09,719
that she had like with her dad, that like he

1266
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,440
kind of set this thing up like for her and

1267
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,119
how his main directive is just to make her happy.

1268
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:18,480
Like that was just a really nice, like heartwarming touch

1269
00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:21,400
without even having to like have Rain like see like

1270
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,039
a hologram of her dad. You know, it's like, hello, Rain,

1271
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:28,199
I left everything to you, just like Indy, and like

1272
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,480
we didn't need that because we just got that through

1273
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,880
their dialogue and I thought that was really really well done.

1274
00:57:33,519 --> 00:57:35,360
And then to switch that when they're on the ship

1275
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,360
and it's like, oh, fuck, now we have a synthetic

1276
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,639
that's like, you know, the direct company for the company,

1277
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:43,159
and yeah, I really really like that switch. I liked

1278
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:46,880
even his behavior. It's not like he was straight evil

1279
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,159
like when he gets the chip, like he's like, yeah, okay,

1280
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:50,599
we got to get out of here, like before the

1281
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:52,119
alien gets in this room, we got to get out

1282
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:55,280
of here. Right now. He's super cold and like, you know,

1283
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,280
it's for the mission that is the company's, but like

1284
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,679
he's still like, okay, guys, let's go. You know. It's

1285
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:02,039
not like David where he's like, oh yeah, we're going

1286
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:03,800
down here and then he's like doing some fucking like

1287
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:06,039
buttons on the ship and then he's going down the corridor.

1288
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, David, Dave was no for no company. He

1289
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:13,280
was for himself for some reason, you know, that bad programming.

1290
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,159
Speaker 2: So but Andy was fantastic. Love.

1291
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that dynamic is fun because you

1292
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,639
can kind of see the calculus going on in his

1293
00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:22,519
head of Okay, how do I accomplish this goal the

1294
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:24,159
best way, and like for the most parts, like, oh yeah,

1295
00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:26,360
it does make sense to keep them alive. That will

1296
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,079
make this mission easier. So even if the directive is

1297
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:32,679
no longer to keep her or them safe, then it's

1298
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,760
it's just the best thing to do. But yeah, I

1299
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,679
think to me it really worked like one the acting.

1300
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:39,159
Of course, he's kind of playing multiple characters here, where

1301
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:42,119
he's doing the like twitches really well and like he

1302
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:44,199
also has the creepiness factor when he's like glitching out

1303
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:46,440
of rebooting and his eyes back from that.

1304
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: Track, I can't take a punch. My god, he just

1305
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,000
gets bumped and he's downs.

1306
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:52,719
Speaker 2: Was probably confused, like.

1307
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,719
Speaker 1: The things are usually stronger.

1308
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's like it's funny because he

1309
00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:01,679
has almost has like an arc in this, but it's

1310
00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:04,920
a very artificial arc because it's just literally the programming

1311
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:07,800
changing him. But he is an artificial character, so it

1312
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,760
works for me. It's like they wanted to give him

1313
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,679
an arc in the most like straightforward, buy the book

1314
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,159
sort of way, and to me it actually totally works.

1315
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:16,960
It's not like he has some big character moment that

1316
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,519
changes him back to you know, working in good faith

1317
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:21,880
and trying to protect Rain. It's just that she took

1318
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,559
the chip out of his head again. But to me,

1319
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:26,440
that totally works and makes sense because it doesn't. It

1320
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,199
wouldn't really make sense for me if he came to

1321
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,719
some realization on his own and.

1322
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: Changed Yah he is, because it's.

1323
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,239
Speaker 3: Just not how these synthetics have shown to be. And

1324
00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:36,679
I think it was once again, like we've talked about

1325
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:39,079
this going through the retro is they always try and

1326
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:41,119
do something a little bit different with the synthetics, whether

1327
00:59:41,159 --> 00:59:43,960
it's like ash and hiding that's synthetic until the end

1328
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,320
of the movie, or like you find out early on

1329
00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:48,840
and all these different dynamics, And I think this is

1330
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,760
another way that they did it in a fresh, cool way.

1331
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,000
And it was fun to see like an old defunct

1332
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:56,519
synthetic aversion that is kind of discarded and has just

1333
00:59:56,559 --> 00:59:59,639
thrown down to this random ass like this random mining planet.

1334
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,519
I don't really care about them. It's like, I guess

1335
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:03,880
that's the best we can do with this resource that

1336
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,840
we have here. But then just kind of getting that

1337
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,079
upgrade through that added module from the later models. It

1338
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:11,800
was just all really cool and fun, like from the

1339
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,880
lower perspective, and I think they just did a good

1340
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,480
job of like shaking up what can you do new

1341
01:00:16,519 --> 01:00:18,360
with a synth And I think we did a good.

1342
01:00:18,239 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: Job of that here, which is funny because I feel

1343
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,400
like other than really Alien three, i'd have to like

1344
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,519
get back in my mind. And when I talk about

1345
01:00:26,519 --> 01:00:28,159
these movies, I'm not referring to a VP as well,

1346
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:31,079
So just the alien movies, like the androids and stuff.

1347
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:33,840
They always have quite a big role to play one

1348
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,000
whether it's for against our heroes, right like Ash w

1349
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:41,159
no A Ryder, Andy David. They're all very and it's

1350
01:00:41,199 --> 01:00:43,239
funny too because people, it's not a true thing about

1351
01:00:43,239 --> 01:00:45,559
people always try to connect Alien to Blade Runner because

1352
01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:49,280
they got the Oh god, what am I forgetting what

1353
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:56,840
they're called? Oh not a not roode A Kins applicants.

1354
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,679
Oh my god, it's something. It's on the tip of

1355
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:03,960
my I'll get back to in a second. But yeah, Andy,

1356
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,079
I got no notes, all perfect. Like he said, Dylan,

1357
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:08,639
I was really worried when she was trying to it's replicans,

1358
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:12,000
that's what it is, replicants. As they were trying she

1359
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:13,559
was trying to get the chip out of him. I

1360
01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:15,840
was really not wanting him to have like a character

1361
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,039
art moment where it's like I see through, like you

1362
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:20,960
are you know this person she got she like tricked

1363
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,320
him of, like, well, if you die, that wouldn't be

1364
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,360
good for the company, and like, well, yeah, it's a

1365
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,800
good way. So it's like he you know the bit

1366
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,760
the wayland Andy knows Okay, she's winning here, but at

1367
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,480
the same time, you can't go against that programming, so

1368
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:37,119
no no notes. I think I particularly loved him in

1369
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:40,000
the first act where he's just he kind of has

1370
01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:43,960
in like he kind of he's playing it in a

1371
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,679
way where he's a smart individual, but he's also maybe

1372
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,360
as like a child state or someone that's almost closer

1373
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,360
to the spectrum. And that's what I really liked about.

1374
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,159
This is something we haven't seen with an android, either

1375
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,400
in hiding or they're very official not why No writers,

1376
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,159
because I don't like they just choose just why No.

1377
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:01,199
One as like a and she's a robot, right, They

1378
01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:03,280
didn't really do anything special there at that one, but

1379
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,480
I think most of them have these personalities that are

1380
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:07,519
very unique. And heat is again, but this is some

1381
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:10,000
we had not seen before almost a it is. It's

1382
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:11,880
fitting because yeah, he got thrown away because it's like

1383
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,960
kind of a broken out of date model, and he

1384
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,079
played it that way. Even says to get his new program,

1385
01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:18,280
he's like, oh, my joints are healing a bit better,

1386
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,079
which I think that was a lie because he just

1387
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,880
you know, like I said, it would take a hit

1388
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,079
and he'd be down. But yeah, but that was it

1389
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:28,079
was top tiers. Just if I was very invested. I

1390
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:30,599
love that cold line about when they had to do this,

1391
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:32,239
when he had to do the sacrifice because he was

1392
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:34,480
right to not to open the door. If he opened

1393
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,000
the door, they would be screwed. And she says like, oh,

1394
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:38,360
why could you do that? He's like, what do you

1395
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,480
mean leave someone behind? And that realization that's where he

1396
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:44,360
gets the artificial arc. But his art kind of makes

1397
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,800
it that Rain gets her real arc right of it

1398
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,000
doesn't matter if he's a robot, android, synth, whatever. I'm

1399
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,000
connected to him, and in the future, I'm not going

1400
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:54,440
to leave him behind. And that's why I like the

1401
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:56,880
last direct of now it's what's best for us, not

1402
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,320
what's best for me. And she gets that arc through him, so.

1403
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,719
Speaker 3: And it even kind of reinforces And I think this

1404
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,039
is what really terrifies Rain is I think that Navarro

1405
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:10,039
says earlier talking about Biorn's parents or mother, forget who

1406
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:12,840
was who got killed because an android decided to save

1407
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,639
twelve people and at the expense of four people dying,

1408
01:03:16,679 --> 01:03:20,280
and so that Andy in that same moment like, Okay,

1409
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,400
I'm going to sacrifice this one person to save you too.

1410
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,639
It wasn't really that exact scenario, but in her head.

1411
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,119
It's close enough, like establishes that and like, shit, Andy,

1412
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:28,920
this guy that I trust is my brother, I call

1413
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,519
my brother is like acting this exact same way. It

1414
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:34,199
is a very terrifying thought and puts you on edge

1415
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,039
that like one simple thing can totally change this this

1416
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,760
person to her because he really is more than just

1417
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,280
a just a robot to her.

1418
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,559
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, and it's tougher Andy because he has like

1419
01:03:44,639 --> 01:03:46,519
sound the programming of the old Andy, but most of

1420
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:49,719
it's being overridden by the Whalen stuff. So it's all though,

1421
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,239
was just interesting, great stuff. I think they knocked at

1422
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,800
the park there, so uh, sticking to that out of

1423
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,960
break and then we'll be right back and we're back

1424
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:01,800
Kirklantaven and Andy, we're going somewhere else.

1425
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:05,199
Speaker 5: I really really liked this character.

1426
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:07,679
Speaker 4: I liked how things kind of went sideways after he

1427
01:04:07,719 --> 01:04:08,440
got his upgrade.

1428
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 5: And I liked how.

1429
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: When they put that chip into him in the face

1430
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,960
hugger room, his hands just go like out and he

1431
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:16,039
just flips his head back.

1432
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,679
Speaker 1: He's doing the GV big sign. That's what he was doing.

1433
01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:19,800
That's crazy.

1434
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: He was on the corridor.

1435
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just they gotta wheel him around the whole

1436
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,679
like on a on a trolley a cart, just like

1437
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,920
he's gonna wake up any minute now. You know.

1438
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 4: I really liked when the face hugger is crawling on

1439
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,280
the ceiling and gonna jump down the guy snock. You

1440
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,559
don't want to be knocked out in that kind of

1441
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:40,159
a room, But Andy just grabs the tail of the

1442
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:42,599
thing and throws it and gets electrocuted in the ceiling.

1443
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:43,519
Speaker 5: That was pretty cool.

1444
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: And then what's the character's name? Oh yeah, Navarro. They

1445
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,599
did the same thing in Covenant where shit's hit the

1446
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:52,599
fan and she just refuses to help Rain out at

1447
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:54,199
the door and everything. So I was gonna I was

1448
01:04:54,199 --> 01:04:57,000
gonna major flashbacks to Covenant, like, oh no, we got

1449
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,159
this character. It's gonna do something stupid, and she didn't

1450
01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:02,480
really end up she's gonna froze. But yeah, some some

1451
01:05:02,679 --> 01:05:10,679
allusions to that great movie. Anything else Andy or even

1452
01:05:10,719 --> 01:05:11,760
on Rain to talk about.

1453
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: One last Andy thing is that I liked his stupid

1454
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,000
jokes that he would do for the movie. It was

1455
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:20,760
just a little moment of levity, and I think it

1456
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,000
was also easy, an easy thing for Bijorn to pick

1457
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:27,639
on and to drive that kind of wedge between the mind.

1458
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:30,360
I don't love that character necessarily, but you know, for

1459
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,000
what it is, I think that was pretty purposeful. But

1460
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:33,440
then for it to kind of come back in the

1461
01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:35,960
end and lead to that moment where he makes the

1462
01:05:36,039 --> 01:05:38,880
joke about anti gravity and that leads to her having

1463
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,519
that idea, I think it was a really cool moment

1464
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:44,039
and it really worked for me. So yeah, it was

1465
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,440
just a little little element of personality. I love that

1466
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,320
she knows of the punchlines to all these jokes because

1467
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,360
she's probably heard them a million times too, so once

1468
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,840
again just establishes their their love for each other. So

1469
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:55,239
that's andy.

1470
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I like the joke portion and yeah,

1471
01:05:58,039 --> 01:05:59,639
it's almost like what you said you're talking about in

1472
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:02,199
the spoilers Kirk them with Rain, I was surprised at

1473
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:04,639
how much earth stuff we go out. We saw a bit,

1474
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:07,079
which we always know these companies are shady, but man,

1475
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:10,199
what terrible mood or move You've worked up your hours,

1476
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:13,320
you're ready to go transport thing. Oh no, today it's

1477
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,599
moving up and they just go from seventeen twenty four thousand.

1478
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:19,119
It's just like she says, you'll be there for like

1479
01:06:19,159 --> 01:06:21,519
five to six more years. It's just like imagine that thing.

1480
01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:23,760
You're finally out and then you know you're gonna go

1481
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,079
buy a house, and then you go to buy and

1482
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:28,039
the guy's like, no, actually it's a it's a triple

1483
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,519
that amount now, so we'll come back again. And but yeah,

1484
01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:32,599
it was it was nice to I'd love to see

1485
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:35,880
what they base the environments on the outside, because we

1486
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,000
don't spend many time on planets and aliens, right like

1487
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:40,639
in the movies, there are always ships and stuff, So

1488
01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:43,199
I'd love to see k where did they pull Just

1489
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:47,000
there's like these big like yellow or the big like buildings,

1490
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,679
but they're just like a big light pretty much like

1491
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,360
the phone in the lighthouse. They're just like multiples of that.

1492
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,800
So I enjoyed that and I think it was like

1493
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,480
I liked the arc of we are talk about any

1494
01:06:55,519 --> 01:06:57,840
but just she lost her parents, she wants to gets

1495
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,000
my thing. I think it went really fast to you

1496
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,079
meet Rain, you meet her friends. They give this pitch

1497
01:07:03,079 --> 01:07:04,840
and she's gone, not even like a moment to like

1498
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,679
think about oh could this script it. She's just like

1499
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,639
she gets mad for a second. Then they say, oh,

1500
01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:10,840
well no it's gonna work, and like, okay, it's gonna work,

1501
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,719
So I don't know if I would need more, but

1502
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,800
it just felt like a little quick in the moment,

1503
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,199
But I like the majority of all the stuff we

1504
01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:18,599
got with Rain as well and acting aside was great.

1505
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:22,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably a little quick, but it's hard to

1506
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:25,000
blame anyone for wanting to get out of that situation

1507
01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:28,920
at all costs. Yeah, if they die in the sequence

1508
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,159
to do it, but no, I totally agree. I think

1509
01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:33,159
that was to me a very fun world building thing

1510
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:37,599
to get seeing this kind of mining colony and where

1511
01:07:37,639 --> 01:07:39,599
they are. Whether it's I couldn't tell if it was

1512
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:42,559
because of the rotation of this planet and like the

1513
01:07:42,719 --> 01:07:44,679
where this mining colony is is just on like the

1514
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,960
dark side of this planet, it never rotates, or if

1515
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,800
it's just because like the thick atmosphere, but whatever reason,

1516
01:07:50,599 --> 01:07:52,960
I love that little It wasn't even the character line

1517
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,559
saying it, but it was just like the description of

1518
01:07:54,599 --> 01:07:57,000
the planet. It was like, you know, seventy one light

1519
01:07:57,079 --> 01:08:01,320
years from Earth daylight per year zero. Yeah, not even

1520
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,760
per day, just per year zero. I thought that was

1521
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,519
like a great moment, just seeing that the harsh conditions

1522
01:08:06,519 --> 01:08:09,239
here they're talking about how like new diseases get invented

1523
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,280
here every year pretty much because people are getting more

1524
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,599
and more just fucked up. And even like that one

1525
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:16,399
guy walks by with a little a canary and she's

1526
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,600
just like, I think that's to her big motivator, just

1527
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,920
being like, that's pretty much what I am. I no

1528
01:08:21,079 --> 01:08:23,399
better than just like a little tiny bird that they

1529
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,560
throw in here just see if it's gonna die or not.

1530
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:28,800
So yeah, all that stuff really worked for me. And

1531
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,560
even though it was short glimpses of what a street

1532
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,520
looks like, I'm excited to like go pause those scenes

1533
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,079
and look in the background and see what kind of

1534
01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:37,960
buildings and I don't know he's there, like a cafe

1535
01:08:38,079 --> 01:08:40,520
or something. I doubt it, but maybe there's the background.

1536
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,119
I really liked all that stuff there. It really it

1537
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:44,880
was really cool world building stuff.

1538
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, no I mentioned in the spoiler free section. I

1539
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,640
really love just seeing more of what's going on in

1540
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,439
this world and just the effects of you know, we've

1541
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,560
seen Wayland himself multiple times, but to just like see

1542
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,840
way A like way farther down of like what his

1543
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,159
influences of just his company, and I like just like

1544
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:10,199
they have like a wailing utawny like because it's just

1545
01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:12,840
they own basically everything, and there's just like spray paint

1546
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,239
just like fuck that or like like you know, it's

1547
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:18,520
just like the psyche around the company is just like

1548
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,439
they are basically the Empire, Like they're just like this

1549
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,680
evil corporation and everything that we've seen them do, it's

1550
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,840
basically that, like like you know, they're trying to get

1551
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,720
this fucking zeno more if they're obsessed with it. So yeah,

1552
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,479
I really, like I really just was I think surprised

1553
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,359
about the amount of world building that we got from

1554
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,479
from this. And it was a pleasure. It was a pleasure.

1555
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,640
It was a I don't even know what I'm saying.

1556
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 1: You just do a pleasure, pleasure work for you.

1557
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,279
Speaker 2: It sounded too short to say that. But and then yeah,

1558
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:50,399
like when they get on the ship and fly up, Travis,

1559
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:52,880
you mentioned like Starfield. I never played Starfield, but it

1560
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,199
totally just like made me think of like a fun

1561
01:09:57,159 --> 01:09:59,399
like space adventures to get on.

1562
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,119
Speaker 1: It was I'm telling you.

1563
01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go buy an Xbox i can play my story.

1564
01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:09,159
But just like, yeah, this ragtag group of friends that

1565
01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:11,920
are just like going off on this adventure the way

1566
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,359
they like dock the station when those doors first open,

1567
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,319
and it's just like the event. I always just think

1568
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:20,720
of alien isolation, like those events that are just fucking

1569
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,239
sphincters essentially, And when it opens up, and it's just like.

1570
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:27,079
Speaker 3: Even like the little crank shit dude, like the emergency

1571
01:10:27,079 --> 01:10:28,119
power you have to do it in the game all

1572
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,199
the time, like hit it down three times for to

1573
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:30,720
power up.

1574
01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 2: So all of like as soon as they open the

1575
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,720
door and it's just like you hear like an echo

1576
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:44,199
and it's just like, noeled.

1577
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,520
Speaker 3: By how narrow that corridor was that they've crawled through.

1578
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I I love the first act of this movie.

1579
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,399
I again, like even just like the opening credits, how

1580
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,159
they had like a similar font of what the first

1581
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:55,760
movie had. It just they did such a great job

1582
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,520
with yeah, just capturing that magic of what the first

1583
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,000
movie had my opinion. So that was just a great like, Okay,

1584
01:11:04,119 --> 01:11:06,079
we're here, we're starting this movie. Let's do this.

1585
01:11:09,279 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 4: I just really appreciate the like I said earlier, the

1586
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,359
attention to detail. Hearing all the different sounds too, Like

1587
01:11:16,399 --> 01:11:18,840
in the first I even say, like probably you know

1588
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,279
the second or the third act, just when the pulse

1589
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:24,319
rifles are firing off and just the doors and everything going,

1590
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,520
like it's just so nice to hear the equality of

1591
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,359
those sounds again.

1592
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think that they did a really really

1593
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:33,199
good job.

1594
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:35,359
Speaker 4: It's so visually appealing and there's so many different things

1595
01:11:35,399 --> 01:11:37,359
in the background you're trying to like look at and.

1596
01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 5: Just take in, like, oh, this is just so cool and.

1597
01:11:39,399 --> 01:11:42,399
Speaker 4: Like it's a mystery, right the story, and so you're

1598
01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:44,000
trying to see if you can spot things.

1599
01:11:44,039 --> 01:11:47,319
Speaker 5: And there's one, well, no, two shots that.

1600
01:11:47,319 --> 01:11:49,359
Speaker 4: I could remember where you kind of use your perpheral

1601
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:53,600
vision something moves in the background, which I would have

1602
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,680
loved that. There's a little bit more, but that's that's fine.

1603
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,279
I enjoyed the ones that I got.

1604
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,039
Speaker 1: Yes, not care for Bijorn at all before I forget,

1605
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,239
I know, I like that they tried to do the

1606
01:12:06,279 --> 01:12:10,199
whole Yeah, like the synth, you know, chose these twelve

1607
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:12,640
people over his parents. I just wish I don't know

1608
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,920
if it was writing, directing, or the acting or Coumbo

1609
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,479
ball three. I just thought they made him too generic.

1610
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,840
I would have liked him to be a bit more

1611
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,079
subtle and he could still like make it known that

1612
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:25,239
he does not like robots. He's not like a like

1613
01:12:25,279 --> 01:12:27,399
a Mando thing, right where eventually they dropped that, but

1614
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,600
like he does not like droids for X, Y and Z, right,

1615
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,800
But eventually, to me, it was always a bit more

1616
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,600
subtle in that show to begin with, and they transitioned.

1617
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,760
I wish this movie had that where just every interaction

1618
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,960
has with a human too. He's just like an asshole.

1619
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,119
It's just like I don't usually other than if you

1620
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:47,279
introduce to hear some bad people just get killed off.

1621
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:49,840
I want to not want to see these people die.

1622
01:12:50,039 --> 01:12:51,720
And now that I'm rooting for him to die, but

1623
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,560
it's like I don't care, and I'm almost like in

1624
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,079
my mind, I'm like, I hope he's the first to go.

1625
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,960
So his character's not around for a little bit. Fun

1626
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,000
little revealed that he was the father of the child.

1627
01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:03,319
I guess, so he is the father of abomination. So

1628
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:08,520
there you go. You got that going on. But I don't, well,

1629
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,000
I so I don't think it's it's not said. But

1630
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:18,119
when uh kay, when she gets down like uh Navarro,

1631
01:13:18,279 --> 01:13:21,079
she's dead, right, and then they've both somehow fall. They

1632
01:13:21,119 --> 01:13:23,359
both fall because the ship is moving, they both fall.

1633
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,359
I think it's the way that she's walking back and

1634
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:29,760
he grabs her mouth and like, oh, you know, she's

1635
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,960
not a calm her down, but he doesn't just let go.

1636
01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:34,479
When he lets go, he like moves up and caresses

1637
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,520
her face, and they have like this look to me

1638
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,199
that and especially when uh, what's her name? Rain asks

1639
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:42,319
like who's the fathers? Like, oh, just just some guy,

1640
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,760
Like I think that they were, yeah, and that would

1641
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,920
fit right, So I think they were having an affair

1642
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,800
on the side, and that's what it was.

1643
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:54,279
Speaker 2: Isn't that Tyler's sister and that isn't pure and his cousin.

1644
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's all fair in life.

1645
01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 3: On the colony.

1646
01:14:00,199 --> 01:14:01,119
Speaker 5: What was the girl's name?

1647
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: Navarro?

1648
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 5: So she and I thought the cousin.

1649
01:14:07,039 --> 01:14:10,359
Speaker 2: I thought they had a relationship because yes, they're checking.

1650
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,239
Speaker 1: Oh so you're just saying I guess I could be

1651
01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:15,399
wrong because they are cousin. Then if it is, then

1652
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,520
that scene they played it off like romantically the way

1653
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,359
they like, he like had her in close, and then

1654
01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:24,840
I guess they just have a close relationship as cousins,

1655
01:14:25,359 --> 01:14:25,920
unless it's.

1656
01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: Close friends probably, or they're just terrified and they're touching

1657
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:31,640
other's face, or.

1658
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: Is it like a cousin thing. That is it by

1659
01:14:33,079 --> 01:14:35,159
blood cousin or is it like like I have an

1660
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:39,399
anti Donna but she's no way related to me. Yeah,

1661
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,359
Like so I don't know. I'll wait and see more

1662
01:14:41,399 --> 01:14:43,159
in that. That's that's the vibe I was getting, especially

1663
01:14:43,159 --> 01:14:45,680
because like just certain things. But yeah, the Vigoran character,

1664
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,279
I wish they just just ran a little more subtly.

1665
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:50,960
That felt like an eighties throwback in a bad way

1666
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,079
of all. This is just very in your face. This

1667
01:14:53,119 --> 01:14:55,880
is the asshole character. And you know, like the moment

1668
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,640
where he did and I guess that's how that Demoor

1669
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,840
got the electricity right when he did the hazering to it.

1670
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,239
But I liked that scene, and I liked his death

1671
01:15:03,239 --> 01:15:06,640
of just rubbing acid further and it's just making it

1672
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,920
worse and just a terrible way to go again. Might

1673
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,720
be kind of done that. It's weird that he does that.

1674
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:15,399
He sees the acid fall and they give him a

1675
01:15:15,399 --> 01:15:17,600
beat to acknowledge that, and then he's still just like

1676
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,720
just yeah, so again, And it's like like, I wish

1677
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,359
they just didn't make him see the acid then, right,

1678
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,560
just make it that that's the first time he experienced.

1679
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,600
Is it that oh shit, this is not just blood,

1680
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,039
but yeah, all the rest of the characters I liked

1681
01:15:31,159 --> 01:15:33,680
to really liked him was one that I did not

1682
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,600
enjoy at all, and that did bring the movie down

1683
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:37,079
for me a bit.

1684
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and then I also Navarro was a weird one,

1685
01:15:42,039 --> 01:15:44,840
just because the most recent trailer, which I hadn't seen

1686
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,880
until I think the second time I went to see

1687
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,239
Deadpool Wolverine and the I got the freaking trailer and

1688
01:15:49,279 --> 01:15:52,520
then it shows Navarro getting chest bursted in that, and

1689
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,399
I was like, Okay, well, going into this movie, I

1690
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,159
know this character is not gonna make it, so I

1691
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,239
feel like I was immediately less invested.

1692
01:15:58,600 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1693
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,039
Speaker 3: I also can't think of like a really standout moment

1694
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,760
from that actor or character, and probably is like the

1695
01:16:05,239 --> 01:16:08,439
screen time out of anyone as well, So I don't

1696
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,800
I don't think I have much to say about her. Unfortunately, Yeah,

1697
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,239
she's just you know.

1698
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:20,159
Speaker 2: Something that I thought was like, I don't want to

1699
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:22,800
say waste of potential, but I feel like lost opportunity

1700
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,520
was the the X ray light thing that they had

1701
01:16:26,119 --> 01:16:29,119
really underutilized. I thought like, like they show it off

1702
01:16:29,159 --> 01:16:31,520
in the trailer, I think you can like see it

1703
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,640
in her chest and it's like a big moment where

1704
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,199
like she shows on her arm and it's never used

1705
01:16:36,199 --> 01:16:37,880
again in the movie, and I'm like, I feel like

1706
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,840
that could have been an interesting thing to just have

1707
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,479
as a tool where, especially like later on with Key

1708
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,560
if they're like, like, you know, just to check out

1709
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,279
what is going on in her in her stomach, if

1710
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,279
if they see that it is a baby and they

1711
01:16:51,279 --> 01:16:53,479
don't think anything of it, but it's got like a

1712
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,199
tail or something you know, like like just like some

1713
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,239
sort of thing, uh, to play on that device, because

1714
01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:01,079
it's something that I don't think it's been in the

1715
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:05,239
universe up until this point, and it really is just yeah,

1716
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:10,039
she just has it to see herself before like the

1717
01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:12,039
chest burs happened. So I feel like even when they

1718
01:17:12,079 --> 01:17:14,039
did use it, it wasn't like the best moment to

1719
01:17:14,119 --> 01:17:15,359
use it, Like it could have been used in a

1720
01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:18,840
more interesting way. I think it's just a cool gadget

1721
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,319
that unfortunately it was underutilized.

1722
01:17:21,359 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 3: My mind, Yeah, I feel like that's an important part

1723
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,319
of these movies, is just interesting, fun, weird tech. But yeah,

1724
01:17:28,319 --> 01:17:29,960
you're right, it feels like one of those things that

1725
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,680
like they clearly foreshadow it when she's playing around with

1726
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:37,039
it first, shit, oh cool. Yeah, and Rain is like, ah,

1727
01:17:37,119 --> 01:17:39,640
I don't touch anything. You don't know what any of

1728
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,760
this stuff does. And then it feels weird for something

1729
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,760
like that to be foreshadowed that early on but then

1730
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,960
also be resolved or like the inciting event with it

1731
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,600
is like very early on in the movie as well.

1732
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,720
I wonder if there was something else that they had

1733
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,239
in there and that either got cut or didn't really

1734
01:17:53,239 --> 01:17:54,880
make sense. She was the only character that was like

1735
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,520
using them, I guess, so it wouldn't really make sense

1736
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,000
forone else to use one. But yeah, it's a good point.

1737
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 2: M Yeah.

1738
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1739
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,039
Speaker 3: One other thing that you kind of mentioned there, Travis, Yeah,

1740
01:18:07,039 --> 01:18:09,920
I didn't think about the because I didn't notice the

1741
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,800
alien that had the electric thing in his head, But

1742
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,079
it makes sense that would be the one that got

1743
01:18:13,159 --> 01:18:15,600
hit by the baton. That human help in the chat

1744
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,880
mentioned that too. I have we seen a pod like

1745
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,439
that before that an alien is because we've always talked

1746
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,600
about this, how the aliens that go from chest burster

1747
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:29,760
to full zeno more pretty freaking fast. I never really

1748
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,439
see like what exactly. Sometimes we see them feeding on someone,

1749
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,079
where we see a corpse, and we can assume that,

1750
01:18:34,359 --> 01:18:37,439
but I can't recall seeing like a crystalis like coon

1751
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,199
thing like this before. And obviously they went full like

1752
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,800
Vagina visual with oh yeah, gaping hole on it. But yeah,

1753
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,960
like has that appeared at all before?

1754
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 4: Not that I recall.

1755
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,359
Speaker 3: I like it. I think it's a good addition. It's creepy,

1756
01:18:52,399 --> 01:18:55,800
it's weird, and obviously led into that good death scene

1757
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,800
with Bjorn there, But yeah, I like that addition.

1758
01:18:58,920 --> 01:18:59,279
Speaker 5: I liked it.

1759
01:18:59,319 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: It's cool.

1760
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,039
Speaker 1: It's like a catapillar into a butterfly. You need another

1761
01:19:03,239 --> 01:19:06,359
stage to get to that big moment, you know.

1762
01:19:07,279 --> 01:19:08,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, are we too?

1763
01:19:09,119 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 5: I guess?

1764
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,039
Speaker 3: Are we assume that they always do this then in

1765
01:19:12,119 --> 01:19:14,159
every other movie when they go off screen and then

1766
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:17,039
they come back as even something like going from that

1767
01:19:17,159 --> 01:19:22,079
baby to offspring like full offspring. Pretty quick transformation or

1768
01:19:22,119 --> 01:19:27,159
pretty quick growth. Considering that there was no cocoon quite

1769
01:19:27,279 --> 01:19:28,199
like that, I don't know.

1770
01:19:29,399 --> 01:19:32,279
Speaker 1: I guess you'd have to assume because they just face

1771
01:19:32,319 --> 01:19:34,600
hugged like random humans. Right, it'd be different if this

1772
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,479
was the one that was the abomination. You go, oh,

1773
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,000
that's why this has this big different cocoon thing, because

1774
01:19:39,279 --> 01:19:41,439
it's a new breed, but it's just a face hugger

1775
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,439
on a human, so I guess I imagine they do that.

1776
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,720
I think it's I think the science with all these

1777
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,720
movies of when the face hugger comes out, or the

1778
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,439
levels of how quickly it changes, it's always different. So

1779
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,199
I've just thrown it away because I just feel like

1780
01:19:54,279 --> 01:19:57,199
sometimes the people the face huggers just burst out right away,

1781
01:19:57,319 --> 01:19:59,520
or sometimes they go and get some dinner and they're

1782
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,159
hanging out out where Navarro didn't really last that long,

1783
01:20:02,359 --> 01:20:04,039
even though I also did like that seat where they

1784
01:20:04,079 --> 01:20:06,279
were gonna they're trying to take it off. It's wrapping

1785
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:08,239
it around the throat, and you know, Andy gives the

1786
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:11,159
whole exposition of its matching the breathing. So that's at

1787
01:20:11,239 --> 01:20:14,319
least something good for now. But yeah, no, I like

1788
01:20:14,359 --> 01:20:16,880
the cuckoo thing enough. I liked the exit of it

1789
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:24,159
as well, so m anything else in particular, I thought

1790
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:25,199
I had something now, But.

1791
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple a couple of things we kind of

1792
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:32,760
mentioned it. I did really like the zero gravity shoot

1793
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,319
out into that sequence of having a stealth through all

1794
01:20:36,359 --> 01:20:38,520
that toxic goo. I don't know if there's much more

1795
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:43,800
to say on that, but I enjoyed that question. Was

1796
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,159
Kay jettisoned at the end, Like was she she wasn't

1797
01:20:48,159 --> 01:20:50,600
in the cargo thing. I'm just wondering, like, I don't

1798
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,920
think it really matters, but I'm wondering if her body

1799
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,319
is on board the ship at the end.

1800
01:20:54,359 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: I think it is very big. Her dead body is

1801
01:20:57,039 --> 01:20:59,720
hanging out there, but yeah, I think it's there. She

1802
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,800
was and the loading bay there or whatever that bay

1803
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,199
was down the below.

1804
01:21:03,319 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, because presumably, yeah, if the if the room

1805
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,560
with the pods is still around, then then so would she.

1806
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, they probably they probably threw off board.

1807
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,000
You know, it's got to stink up the joints.

1808
01:21:16,039 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 3: It kind of thing I was wondering was with the

1809
01:21:18,279 --> 01:21:22,960
with thee with offspring, like I think now I think

1810
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,199
offspring was just like feeding off her like a baby

1811
01:21:25,239 --> 01:21:28,680
does to a mother. But I wondered in that moment

1812
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,399
if it was like impregnating her.

1813
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 1: That's what I thought too, And I'm like, this is

1814
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:32,720
gonna be really messed up.

1815
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 3: Okay, the baby's still on board. We're gonna get a

1816
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,760
whole nother thirty minutes of this movie going on here.

1817
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,680
But that obviously didn't happen. But I guess it's possible

1818
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:40,800
they could do that if.

1819
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: The offspring, and the offspring is gonna look really something as.

1820
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 4: Like she she was like feeling her her chest and

1821
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,239
like pulled back, like you know when a woman has

1822
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:54,479
a baby, they start to produce, and this case.

1823
01:21:54,399 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: It just say lacked eate. It's like it's just like

1824
01:21:58,119 --> 01:21:59,760
you made it worse by saying produced.

1825
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 5: It was just like uzzy slime. When she was like.

1826
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that tar right, Yeah, that's where I.

1827
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:08,319
Speaker 4: Was thinking, like, okay, then yeah, maybe it is coming

1828
01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:10,720
to feed off her. Maybe her skin is turning into like.

1829
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,279
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I thought that was just like

1830
01:22:13,359 --> 01:22:15,399
fucking the juices that came over.

1831
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: I was worried she was having like the alien acid

1832
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,239
coming through her boobs and I was like, oh man,

1833
01:22:20,319 --> 01:22:23,000
it's gonna like that would be the milk is Yeah,

1834
01:22:23,039 --> 01:22:24,600
that's what I thought at first, because she was like

1835
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,239
in pain. But that was just something. But overall, she

1836
01:22:27,319 --> 01:22:30,119
just had a terrible fate. All her friends die, Uh,

1837
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,960
she gets stabbed. She's putting a cocoon thing for a

1838
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:36,199
little bit, she gives birth, this thing, this thing kills

1839
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:38,159
or eats her like tear like, I think she easily

1840
01:22:38,199 --> 01:22:41,520
had it the worst out of all them. Okay, easily

1841
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,239
what she goes through one night, I'd rather much just

1842
01:22:45,279 --> 01:22:46,119
be fucking.

1843
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 3: That thing and still being alive. Most people the chest

1844
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,640
burst and then you're dead, so it's like, yeah, that

1845
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,520
was awful, but at least I'm dead now. But that's

1846
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,880
like to see that is just terrifying.

1847
01:22:58,079 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: And also that egg was much bigger than most children

1848
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,680
would be, so even her body would be in lots

1849
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:02,960
of pain.

1850
01:23:03,079 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 3: We saw the bag was filled with the toxic fluid,

1851
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,359
so I'm sure some of it got out and just

1852
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:08,560
singed her on the way out.

1853
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:09,159
Speaker 1: Not good.

1854
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,319
Speaker 4: I just think it was like, obviously Rain really really

1855
01:23:13,359 --> 01:23:16,119
missed Andy and wanted to go save him, but I

1856
01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:18,840
think that she should not have just sent this half

1857
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,079
injured woman on a ship with Zeno's like, oh, go

1858
01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:23,600
back up to the ship, take this goop. Which another

1859
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,479
thing I didn't like was when they were trying to

1860
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,159
escape from the hive and Andy was down and then

1861
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:34,800
Rain takes key and they're moving and she's still holding

1862
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,520
the black goop Like that was never her objective or

1863
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,840
her mission, So I don't know why she cares.

1864
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:43,119
Speaker 2: I'm completely with you too. This is something that bugs

1865
01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:49,319
because like why, like she wasn't even really conscious, She

1866
01:23:49,399 --> 01:23:53,960
wasn't really conscious conscious of what was going on when

1867
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,159
they were like talking about the needle too write, Like

1868
01:23:56,199 --> 01:23:59,319
they just kind of get her up and she just

1869
01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:03,000
is carrying device like she's got rook on an ear

1870
01:24:03,039 --> 01:24:04,760
piece telling her what to do. Like it just seems

1871
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,960
so bizarre that she was the one that was just

1872
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,359
like carrying this and then eventually just grabs it like

1873
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:11,399
I'm just gonna fucking stab myself in the neck. I'm like,

1874
01:24:12,039 --> 01:24:13,760
did she they her this conversation?

1875
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,119
Speaker 1: Her brother did say this would help her write. And

1876
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:18,279
then that's when Andy's like, well, we share twenty five

1877
01:24:18,279 --> 01:24:21,600
percent DNA, so there's a chance. So yes, but I

1878
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,079
agree with you. Is it a little faulty. Yeah, But

1879
01:24:24,119 --> 01:24:26,399
if you were in a moment of like I I

1880
01:24:26,399 --> 01:24:28,199
could take this and live or I'm just gonna die,

1881
01:24:28,399 --> 01:24:30,079
what's it gonna be? And she did it in the

1882
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:32,560
right motivations because she's doing it to help her friends, right,

1883
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,880
she could have just win in the pod, hit the

1884
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,439
because that's what she was told, So she could have

1885
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,960
hit the pod, went to sleep gone. That's what what

1886
01:24:40,039 --> 01:24:42,920
was it Rain told her to do. But that was

1887
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,640
her trying to go the extra mile to help the

1888
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,760
people she cared about. Well, well I'm gonna take this thing,

1889
01:24:48,039 --> 01:24:48,279
you know.

1890
01:24:48,399 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 2: But I think it was just her being like the

1891
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,199
flag bear. It just didn't make sense to me to

1892
01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:56,640
carry this heavy. It didn't look light. The thing of

1893
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,840
like the objects when she's already on death story seemed weird.

1894
01:25:01,159 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of like the timeline of exactly

1895
01:25:03,039 --> 01:25:05,000
when the chip was taken out of Andy, because maybe

1896
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,720
that's the idea of bringing it with you, is so

1897
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,079
that Andy will still work with you and try and

1898
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:09,960
keep you alive.

1899
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:12,359
Speaker 5: Well, Andy was knocked up on the ground.

1900
01:25:12,119 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: Here, right, he's shaking. Yeah, still kept but.

1901
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 3: You didn't think he was down and out. He figured

1902
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,760
that he would still be around, presumably.

1903
01:25:20,079 --> 01:25:22,159
Speaker 1: I was also just surprised in general that they kept it.

1904
01:25:22,199 --> 01:25:24,520
I actually thought the end, Casey Spiney was gonna dump

1905
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,880
it in front of Rook like it's like a fuck you, Like,

1906
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,439
oh you worked on this and throw it. But we

1907
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,600
never I don't know if we got like a full answer.

1908
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,560
It's like Kay's body, It's just it's just somewhere on

1909
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,439
the ship, right, the stuff. So, like I said, I

1910
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,000
imagine it might be sequel bait which human help bass.

1911
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,960
Would you like a sequel to this movie? I don't know.

1912
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,600
I wouldn't mind if they said Fetti was coming back.

1913
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,439
And I feel like the way they have the speech

1914
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,880
at the end of like, I don't know why you'd

1915
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,680
be like, we're going on this adventure and who knows

1916
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,239
what's out there? But it's like, well, I feel like,

1917
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,279
hopefully after you've fought these aliens, nothing else is out there,

1918
01:25:56,279 --> 01:25:58,760
Like it's not a world where you're always It's not

1919
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,840
Star Wars. We were bumping in the things all the time.

1920
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,000
So I felt like between her little speech there and

1921
01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:07,600
them having that stuff and Andy being alive, you know,

1922
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,319
that could be the case. But who knows. Maybe the

1923
01:26:09,319 --> 01:26:11,000
sequel picks up and she's in a cave she'd be

1924
01:26:11,039 --> 01:26:12,880
experimented on for years and like, oh, that's the end

1925
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,000
of Rain's story and you know we've been there before.

1926
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:17,880
But I I don't know. I'm in a weird spot

1927
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,640
because it's kind of like the do you just I

1928
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,840
think it gets too close to Ripley again, you know,

1929
01:26:24,039 --> 01:26:25,800
I like it as a one off, it's like the

1930
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,119
same thing as like if people know this franchise, like

1931
01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:30,520
die Hard, the first one is John McClain. He's just

1932
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,079
a regular call that happens to bump into a terrorist situation.

1933
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,319
Then there's four other movies where he just happens to

1934
01:26:35,359 --> 01:26:38,319
keep bumping into terrorst situations and they're eventually okay, how

1935
01:26:38,399 --> 01:26:40,479
many times can this cop do this? And I feel

1936
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,720
like they'd be the same way with Rain if for

1937
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,399
some reason she has brought back in Aliens, It's like, well,

1938
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,880
that's literally just Ripley again. So I would like more

1939
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,000
Alien stuff, even if it was Fetti doing it. But

1940
01:26:51,039 --> 01:26:53,479
I don't know if I would need a continuation of

1941
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,920
these characters per se. I'm happy for them just to

1942
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,079
get a semi happy ending. You know.

1943
01:26:59,039 --> 01:27:03,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, considering how much not a fanom of Aliens three

1944
01:27:03,399 --> 01:27:06,880
or Resurrected makes me worried that if we're kind of

1945
01:27:07,079 --> 01:27:09,920
going down, like considering this the remake, even though it's

1946
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,439
a sequel, still a remake, and like following that those

1947
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,680
foots up, like yes, I do want I like Hyry Spainey.

1948
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,920
I'd love for her to stick around do more, but

1949
01:27:19,079 --> 01:27:20,680
like I kind of want her go to other stuff.

1950
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,479
And I think want Fedi to go do something else

1951
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,800
as well, rather than another alien thing. Even if we

1952
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,359
did get a sequel, I think i'd want someone else

1953
01:27:26,399 --> 01:27:28,520
on it, just because I want him to go do.

1954
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: When we're his Marvel's after him. That's the hot rumor

1955
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,479
right now. So yeah, cool, get Foggy saw this and

1956
01:27:34,279 --> 01:27:36,079
is it though, No, I don't know if I want that.

1957
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I'll take it, but I don't want

1958
01:27:38,279 --> 01:27:39,119
him to get locked.

1959
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:43,399
Speaker 1: Unless they just, yeah, unless they just saun down said, hey,

1960
01:27:43,399 --> 01:27:45,319
you're gonna make Midnight Suns and we're just gonna let

1961
01:27:45,359 --> 01:27:45,720
you rip.

1962
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 3: We're really not getting doctor Strange three.

1963
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Blade even just let him do the like

1964
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,239
For me with FEddi, it has to be like, uh,

1965
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,159
you kind of gotta let him do his stuff. I

1966
01:27:55,159 --> 01:27:58,319
don't want like it's a studio movie, but I don't

1967
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:01,359
want like director mandated Fetti Alvarez, you know, and I

1968
01:28:01,399 --> 01:28:05,119
just don't like Yeah, honestly, like people might not like

1969
01:28:05,159 --> 01:28:06,960
to hear this, but like, I think if he had

1970
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,960
to pick a combook route, DC would be better because

1971
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,039
I feel like Gun would get his like weirdisms more

1972
01:28:12,119 --> 01:28:13,920
than a fig he would, right, Like, I just don't

1973
01:28:14,079 --> 01:28:16,439
I don't look at Fetti. I get why they might

1974
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,960
want him, right, because this movie's getting good critical reviews.

1975
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,960
He's had lots of good movies. But I don't look

1976
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,600
at this don't breathe and eel dem be like, oh,

1977
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,680
that's an MCU director, Like I don't think that at all.

1978
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,479
I think he'd be too chained up. But they never know.

1979
01:28:32,359 --> 01:28:33,039
Speaker 5: What else.

1980
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 3: One thing we kind of mentioned but not really is

1981
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,920
I just loved the space elements of this, because we

1982
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,880
talked about that through the retro that some of these

1983
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,600
you kind of forget they even take place in space

1984
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,560
at times, or even in the early ones, just with

1985
01:28:48,039 --> 01:28:52,479
budget or just special effects limitations, you'll get like very

1986
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,199
limited shots of a spaceship flying around. But I really

1987
01:28:56,279 --> 01:29:00,239
liked what we got here, like when we exit the planet,

1988
01:29:00,279 --> 01:29:02,640
just into space there seeing the rings for the time

1989
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,000
it was in the trailer, but it was still to

1990
01:29:04,039 --> 01:29:06,800
see on the big screen. I thought looked really really cool.

1991
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,439
I liked all this the stuff of like the spaceship

1992
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,600
kind of having to dock and undock again and again,

1993
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,960
and just seeing these shots from the exterior of the

1994
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:19,560
Romulus Remiss ship here and then just the concept of

1995
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:25,039
this meteor ring around this being like an inherent timer

1996
01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:27,239
of how long they have on this mission before it

1997
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:30,840
just crashes into this ring. I think it's a really fun,

1998
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,880
like space sci fi idea that I can't think I've

1999
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:36,680
can't think of another time I've seen that before. And

2000
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,680
for me, that really worked. And once like the ship

2001
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,119
gets hit and then it like takes that timer from

2002
01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:43,800
whatever it was seventy two hours down like forty minutes

2003
01:29:44,359 --> 01:29:46,600
is just it's just amazing. And then well we're actually

2004
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,119
getting that superence at the end where the romulus is

2005
01:29:49,159 --> 01:29:51,720
crashing into it and just slowly burning away, and that's

2006
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:55,399
when Rook gets destroyed there and then the our ship,

2007
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,960
our people's ship is starting to fall back into it.

2008
01:29:58,279 --> 01:30:00,399
All that stuff. I think it looked really cool.

2009
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, officially looked good too, Like I feel like we've

2010
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,279
seen sequences like that before and we're like, oh, like

2011
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,199
to the budget got stretched way too thin here, but

2012
01:30:09,239 --> 01:30:11,880
it all looked good. Like there's maybe a few moments

2013
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,199
where case spinning, like in the outfit you can see

2014
01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:17,439
a little bit, but like, no, it like was stunning stuff.

2015
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:22,039
So yeah, well let's take our final ad break and

2016
01:30:22,039 --> 01:30:25,359
we'll probably get some final notes, final thoughts, and ratings

2017
01:30:25,359 --> 01:30:29,800
will be right back, and we're back. I think I

2018
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,039
have used up all my notes. Her biggest talking points

2019
01:30:33,039 --> 01:30:33,640
for myself.

2020
01:30:34,039 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 5: I got one more con for me.

2021
01:30:36,359 --> 01:30:39,119
Speaker 1: Well, radicons, you get two.

2022
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,039
Speaker 5: Was climbing up the ladder shaft.

2023
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 4: She was chasing after Andy, and then the gravity shuts

2024
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,600
off and she falls Andy. And when she falls as

2025
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,920
Zeno morph catches her, this is the one with the

2026
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:55,720
electrical skull, which.

2027
01:30:55,520 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 1: Would just break her back entirely. Yeah, she she would

2028
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,079
be paralyzed in real life, but of course it's a.

2029
01:31:03,079 --> 01:31:06,359
Speaker 2: Movie, right. It was like perfect, perfect.

2030
01:31:06,119 --> 01:31:09,359
Speaker 1: The rate she's falling in that tail. No, man's like

2031
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:10,560
the whiplash.

2032
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 4: Sure, the scene went just too long for the sense

2033
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,640
like I couldn't tell what the intentions of the xenomorph

2034
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:21,920
were because there were other ones that were racing up

2035
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,199
down below, but this one like put her and set

2036
01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:28,119
her down, And I started to think, like, man did

2037
01:31:28,279 --> 01:31:31,159
key like turn into this alien from the Black goop

2038
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:33,079
and it was like on their side now, Like.

2039
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad that didn't happen.

2040
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 4: It was such a long scene that I really wasn't

2041
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:38,760
able to figure out what was going on.

2042
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 5: And I think at the end of it.

2043
01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:42,399
Speaker 4: They were trying to set up the fact that, okay,

2044
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,119
the Zeno even when the elevator shot down and then

2045
01:31:45,119 --> 01:31:47,079
the z know, like pops its head back and it's like, okay,

2046
01:31:47,159 --> 01:31:49,680
still just the two of them. Zeno wanted to keep

2047
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,880
her so that the face Hugger could jump onto her

2048
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,800
and impregnator, I guess, But it was just done in

2049
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,680
a weird way. Like the alien felt just like the

2050
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,760
hero in this sense. I feel like I would have

2051
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,319
loved it if the alien like didn't put her down

2052
01:32:03,359 --> 01:32:05,399
with the tail, but like grabbed her and was holding

2053
01:32:05,399 --> 01:32:08,520
her against the wall and like then like looking at

2054
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,520
the face Hugger, at the face hugger crawling over.

2055
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 5: It just felt too friendly.

2056
01:32:13,359 --> 01:32:15,159
Speaker 4: It felt like good guys, you know, which is just

2057
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:16,800
really really was weird.

2058
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 3: So I agree with you on that.

2059
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't think it was friendly. I just

2060
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,159
didn't love it. I wish there was a different way.

2061
01:32:23,279 --> 01:32:25,399
Just throw a net there, I thought that, I thought.

2062
01:32:25,399 --> 01:32:27,399
And he was gonna make the sacrifice, play there and

2063
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,439
do something where he was gonna somehow propel her to

2064
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,399
the side, and then he fell and you know, he

2065
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:34,920
still got up there. So yeah, I don't know there

2066
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,319
was just it's like they won this cool set piece

2067
01:32:37,359 --> 01:32:39,479
of her falling down the shaft, but they didn't know that, Well,

2068
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,039
what if the alien catches her? You know, it's like

2069
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,520
all right then I feel like if it catches her, though,

2070
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,479
it should be like a catch automatically, then catch attack,

2071
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,039
a catch face hugger, not like a put it down.

2072
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:51,119
Maybe that's something like like what we were talking about earlier,

2073
01:32:51,119 --> 01:32:53,319
Like some other personalities, I guess this one was, yeah,

2074
01:32:53,319 --> 01:32:55,439
a little bit, I want to see what's going on,

2075
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,640
but yeah, it's just a little a little awkward.

2076
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,119
Speaker 2: I think I didn't mind it. I I took in

2077
01:33:01,119 --> 01:33:03,399
the sense of like she's fall into her doom and

2078
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,720
she gets catched by something. But it's like, fuck, I

2079
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,239
wish I was falling, you know, like I wish I

2080
01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:10,399
just died from the impact of the fall. Let alone,

2081
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,479
he caught caught by a xenomorph and then his buddy

2082
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:16,560
face hugger magoo over here is gonna come in here

2083
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,560
and finish me off. I I don't know. That's kind

2084
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,560
of how I took it. And it wasn't that long

2085
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,920
of a sequence in what I'm thinking back on it,

2086
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,279
but maybe it was. I don't know, it didn't play that.

2087
01:33:27,279 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Bad anything else, specifically Kirkling.

2088
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:33,119
Speaker 3: You got anymore.

2089
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised overall how many xenimorse we had,

2090
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:41,239
like because we only really see I mean, we don't

2091
01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:43,880
get a lot of like body shots with the xenomorphs

2092
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:45,880
overall in the movie, but it's mostly just like the

2093
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,159
one we see. And then when I think it's the

2094
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:50,840
sequence when Tyler gets propelled up in the air by

2095
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,520
the the one and then he looks over and there's

2096
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,600
just like three running at him, it's like, holy fuck,

2097
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:59,840
like their numbers just like multiplied up at Ying Yang.

2098
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:04,159
And it was weird because there was some moments that

2099
01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:08,680
made me think of like aliens when I guess specifically

2100
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:13,000
when Rain is raining pain on the on the xenomorphs

2101
01:34:13,039 --> 01:34:15,600
when she hits the gravity and that's when you get

2102
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:20,520
the nice zero gravity acid pirouet she's doing dodging that.

2103
01:34:22,039 --> 01:34:24,920
But like, other than that, there's not a lot of

2104
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,560
like moments I think with multiple xenomorphs in the movie.

2105
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,279
So it felt like I felt like there was a

2106
01:34:31,359 --> 01:34:33,600
lack of xenomorphs, even though I know there was quite

2107
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,159
a few in there. In some weird ways, so I

2108
01:34:37,159 --> 01:34:39,239
don't know if it's really a con. It's just like

2109
01:34:39,239 --> 01:34:42,279
an observation I have, and definitely on a next another viewing,

2110
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,760
I think I'll just have a bitter idea of how

2111
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,159
a feeling on that. It was just surprising, I think,

2112
01:34:47,159 --> 01:34:49,760
to see that many part of me when we do

2113
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,159
see them and then yeah, they just kind of just

2114
01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:58,279
float away with bullets to their brains. I guess, yeah,

2115
01:34:58,479 --> 01:34:59,960
not the way you want to float. We gun though,

2116
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:02,760
I will shout that up. Kind of already talked about

2117
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,960
it with the auto and everything, but just cool, cool,

2118
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,079
little like gear up moment too. I liked how like

2119
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:10,640
Tyler's like, yeah, you do this, get on your shoulder,

2120
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,520
you got auto aim, and then Andy's like, yeah, you're

2121
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:16,039
not gonna want to use that like at all. Yeah again,

2122
01:35:16,199 --> 01:35:19,239
like kind of similar to it was Aliens right when

2123
01:35:19,239 --> 01:35:21,239
they're like, we gotta take all your guns away, can't

2124
01:35:21,239 --> 01:35:23,640
shoot in there. So I kind of agree with what

2125
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,439
you said, Travis, how it felt like this movie was

2126
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,720
able to capture a lot of like elements out of

2127
01:35:29,039 --> 01:35:32,000
pretty much all of the alien movies, like specifically the

2128
01:35:32,039 --> 01:35:35,039
alien movies, which I do appreciate, especially that we're you know,

2129
01:35:35,159 --> 01:35:37,119
went through the retro so they're fresh in our minds

2130
01:35:37,279 --> 01:35:37,640
mm hmm.

2131
01:35:38,279 --> 01:35:41,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple other things like that one from the

2132
01:35:41,399 --> 01:35:43,960
first Alien then these appear all over Alien Isolation is

2133
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:48,079
like that little bird water dipper thing. I don't know,

2134
01:35:48,319 --> 01:35:50,439
Oh yeah, call that, but it was at the beginning

2135
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,880
when when Rain and Andy were just having a meal is

2136
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,600
at their table there, So that was that was a

2137
01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:00,399
funny little little thing there. And then we kind of

2138
01:36:00,399 --> 01:36:01,920
talked about this, but not really a lot. It's just

2139
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,520
the score, which I thought was really fantastic in this movie.

2140
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,239
Of course, it gets all the suspense, intense, horror scary

2141
01:36:09,279 --> 01:36:12,399
stuff straight, gets it straight. I don't know if that's

2142
01:36:12,399 --> 01:36:15,039
the right word for it, gets it right. But then

2143
01:36:15,079 --> 01:36:17,600
I also feel like some of the stuff, particularly the

2144
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,520
space sequences, really kind of hard back to that Goldsmith

2145
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,840
type of tone that he has that really just is

2146
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,680
so unique and interesting. I can't even describe it. It's

2147
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:31,119
just something totally unique for a movie like this, and

2148
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:33,199
so I kind of liked that it felt like a

2149
01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:36,880
callback but still like tasteful and new at the same time. So, yeah,

2150
01:36:37,039 --> 01:36:39,319
score was very good, very good.

2151
01:36:40,119 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's done a lot. I can't remember if he

2152
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,520
was on play Runner. But my favorite score of his

2153
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,800
he did the it with machete. Then I really like

2154
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:50,680
his it stuff, so.

2155
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:53,239
Speaker 3: It was all my else.

2156
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor. Final thoughts and raining over there.

2157
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:58,680
Speaker 3: A final thoughts.

2158
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 4: I went in with expectations just being a little bit higher,

2159
01:37:04,039 --> 01:37:07,840
and I think maybe that's my own my own fault,

2160
01:37:08,079 --> 01:37:10,920
because I was thinking, like, oh, it's it's Fede and

2161
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,880
we got evil dead yeah, and don't breathe and there's

2162
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,720
so there's a certain expectation going into this that I

2163
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,199
was looking forward to. And while I will stand by

2164
01:37:20,279 --> 01:37:22,640
that first and second act, like, visually, everything in this

2165
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,079
movie is fantastic. The story beats in those first two

2166
01:37:25,079 --> 01:37:26,199
acts are fantastic.

2167
01:37:26,279 --> 01:37:27,399
Speaker 5: I love it.

2168
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 4: And it just is nice to get a little bit

2169
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,560
more of a new light on just the world building

2170
01:37:34,399 --> 01:37:37,359
vibe that this movie presents and in this universe with

2171
01:37:37,399 --> 01:37:39,560
Wil and Utani and just more of like the civilian

2172
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,520
life on this colonized planet and.

2173
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 5: A lot of those little things.

2174
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 4: Uh and yeah, just the attention to detail and just

2175
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,399
getting to see the practical effects of the zenos was cool.

2176
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,720
But the third act just does pull me out a bit.

2177
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,960
And maybe it's just because I'm not a big fan

2178
01:37:57,079 --> 01:37:59,479
of just the it felt like Resurrection. It felt like

2179
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,560
a comb and the stuff that I'm not really big

2180
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,640
on from the Prometheus and coming to movies with Resurrection

2181
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,960
and the whole that whole thing, I just wasn't really

2182
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:12,239
speaking to me. That being said, I think I'm gonna probably.

2183
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Go, oh, I M.

2184
01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 5: This is tricky.

2185
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 2: It's tricky while riding on this.

2186
01:38:26,039 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if the cast, if you don't have the

2187
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:30,760
right number.

2188
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,560
Speaker 4: I think I might go seven point seven five out

2189
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,119
of ten.

2190
01:38:37,279 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: Seven point seven five. All right, there you go, mister Muss.

2191
01:38:44,359 --> 01:38:47,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I this is a fun discussion. I feel like

2192
01:38:47,079 --> 01:38:50,840
I got some questions answered, and you know, came away

2193
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,319
a little more negative on some things and pausedive other

2194
01:38:53,359 --> 01:38:56,880
things I hadn't noticed. Overall those is a really really

2195
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,159
fun movie. I'm excited to rewatch it when it hits

2196
01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:03,039
uh Disney Plus sometime down the road. I think I'm

2197
01:39:03,079 --> 01:39:11,119
gonna give it a eight point seven, not.

2198
01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 1: The same five I eight. M There you go, mister Patzer.

2199
01:39:17,079 --> 01:39:17,520
Speaker 2: Mister me.

2200
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:19,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2201
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 2: I think through our discussion, similar to what Dylan said,

2202
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,520
I was, I like became more positive and then also

2203
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,439
more negative in different areas of the film. But for

2204
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,680
the most part, No, this was this was a fantastic

2205
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:35,880
film for me. And yeah, as I confusingly said it earlier,

2206
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,800
it's like it was disappointing in the like the scary level,

2207
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:44,359
but like also the opposite of of whatever that would

2208
01:39:44,359 --> 01:39:46,640
be is it was a nice, pleasant surprise on like

2209
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,640
how much of the alienism So I was able to

2210
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:49,560
hold from this one.

2211
01:39:49,399 --> 01:39:49,560
Speaker 4: So.

2212
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe a surprise gem in that way. I don't

2213
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:56,720
know how else you would label this movie. It's just

2214
01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:01,159
like a confusing conglomeration of of a good time for me.

2215
01:40:01,319 --> 01:40:06,479
So I definitely think, Yeah, I just can't wait to

2216
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,039
rewatch this movie, I think, and just jump back into

2217
01:40:09,079 --> 01:40:15,600
this universe. And yeah, I think a lot writing on this.

2218
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:19,600
As we just said, I think I'll do nine point

2219
01:40:20,079 --> 01:40:23,520
three on this one. I don't know if I've ever

2220
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,359
given that rating before, but it's a confusing rating because

2221
01:40:27,359 --> 01:40:29,439
I kind of feel confused on how I feel overall

2222
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:34,359
on this one. But no, great time, really really good job.

2223
01:40:34,399 --> 01:40:36,960
And I didn't really answer the question, but like what

2224
01:40:37,079 --> 01:40:39,520
I want to sequel of this, No, I don't think.

2225
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,560
So it's a great containing story in and of itself.

2226
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,039
I just I don't want this to be my last

2227
01:40:45,079 --> 01:40:48,319
alien movie by any means. Like seeing this, it's like, okay,

2228
01:40:48,359 --> 01:40:50,520
they can they can do it, Like they can totally

2229
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:55,399
do a modern version of an older movie. Like even

2230
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,119
just I didn't mention this earlier, but just even comparing

2231
01:40:58,159 --> 01:41:00,439
like the tech to something like Prometheus or having it

2232
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:04,399
like that's why, Like it feels really far away from

2233
01:41:04,399 --> 01:41:07,159
those movies in some weird way, even those you know

2234
01:41:07,239 --> 01:41:10,000
they're older movies, but this one's based right after the

2235
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,600
first well actually Promethea's Coming is based before the first Alien,

2236
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,960
so it's kind of weird the difference in the like.

2237
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 3: That's really high tech like holograms and stuff, and Prometheus

2238
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,680
then maybe don't Yeah, shouldn't be there honestly in mindsight.

2239
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 2: No, definitely. Yeah, it's it's funny to compare those, but

2240
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,560
uh yeah, no, great film. I had a fun time

2241
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:28,840
with it.

2242
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a solid I think just I think just nine.

2243
01:41:35,359 --> 01:41:37,800
For me, I'll go like you guys, I'll go a

2244
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,520
nine point two five because I was never at a ten.

2245
01:41:41,079 --> 01:41:43,079
But for when we started this reviewing the whole time, Okay,

2246
01:41:43,079 --> 01:41:44,439
it's a nine point five, nine point five, And then

2247
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,239
I think when we start talking about like, oh, there's this,

2248
01:41:46,319 --> 01:41:48,640
there's that, little things here and there. So that's where

2249
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,800
I feel like i'd need one more rewatch the slid

2250
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,039
of Fly. Okay, is it nine point five or nine?

2251
01:41:53,079 --> 01:41:55,279
But that's where right now I'll go for a nine

2252
01:41:55,319 --> 01:41:57,479
point five. It'd be like a five. I'd say it'd

2253
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:59,159
be like a four point five and a five on

2254
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:03,159
the letterbox. So no, like I said, my expectations were met,

2255
01:42:03,199 --> 01:42:05,960
it's still I would still put like the twenty thirteen

2256
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,199
Evel Dead above this for like what I love Fetti

2257
01:42:08,279 --> 01:42:10,960
for the most. But this is a great addition. This

2258
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:12,720
is gonna rank I won't say wherevery I think will

2259
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,720
rank pretty high when we get to the Alien rankings.

2260
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:17,239
And this to me is like a I consider it

2261
01:42:17,279 --> 01:42:20,479
like a win. It's like a big win. So yeah,

2262
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:24,199
I'm very happy with this and see what happens after this,

2263
01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:26,600
but I'm I'm excited to rewatch it again in the

2264
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,520
future and add this to collection. I feel, as I

2265
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,119
said before, that I don't watch all the alien movies.

2266
01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:33,159
There's certain ones I select to watch, and this will

2267
01:42:33,159 --> 01:42:34,720
be one that I will go out of my way

2268
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:39,359
to select to watch in the future. So well, lay Jen,

2269
01:42:39,359 --> 01:42:41,199
we have done it. Like we said. Next week we'll

2270
01:42:41,239 --> 01:42:43,600
be back with some rankings to close off the Alien

2271
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,239
Red Show and we'll see where the chips lie. Where

2272
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,079
does this rank among the other ones? Goon to find out.

2273
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:51,119
Thank to everyone that listened. Hope you enjoyed the review,

2274
01:42:51,239 --> 01:42:53,239
the movie, Alli good Jazz, and when you're here for

2275
01:42:53,359 --> 01:42:54,600
us next it'll I'll be boring.

2276
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peace,