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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice mix.

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Speaker 2: In some vodka.

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Speaker 1: Colored a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio

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in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.

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It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.

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Thank you for getting your pawn on, Thanks for telling

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a friend, and that's how we spread the word about

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the pirate ship. My man, it looks like you escaped

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from prison to days ten stripes everywhere? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: As jowing out?

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Speaker 1: Billy man, I gotta tell you, like I completely I

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never do this. I mean I completely shut it down.

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Like I I didn't do anything. I didn't do laundry,

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I didn't. Oh, I did food off a little bit.

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I guess I did that, But I mean I really

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just shut it the flip down. Yesterday I slept and

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I rested, and I there's a part of me that

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always feels guilty because if I were to being honest,

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there is a lot of shit that I got into

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and I got it too fast, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But you know what though, if you do that for

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six days, you're allowed to take a seventh day off.

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That's the idea.

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Speaker 1: I know, but I don't know. I'm just saying, like

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so today it's like I gotta get back in it

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got my list going yet anyway, I don't want to

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get too weird.

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Speaker 2: Good you got, you got. You took a day off.

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Shut it down the first day off you had what

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like four years, I don't know, it's quite a while.

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You can't remember, that's the point.

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Speaker 1: But I've shut it down like that. You know, I've

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shut it down like that. But then I uh, I

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mean part of a text thing like my sister will

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not take her kids, she and her husband will not

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take them to Disney, and it's a big It's like

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a big deal because I think the kids are now

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of an age where they are curious and want to

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go and other friends there's have gun but instead they

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do these trips. So they are leaving Iceland and on

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their way to Copenhagen, and then from Copenhagen they're going

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to the beaches of Croatia. And my sister sends a

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picture this morning of her hand. They were on a

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snowmobile trip on a glacier and I guess they were

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going fast around a hairpin turn and I'm thinking it

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was her daughter was on the back of the snowmobile

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and she leaned the wrong way, Yeah, because you want

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to lean into the turn, not out of the turn.

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And I think tried to lean out of the turn

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and it ended up flipping. And my sister's hand is

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all banged up. Man, it's bad. It looks bad. And

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she said her shoulder. No she's an oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, she's gonna answer.

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Speaker 1: They were leaving and heading wherever they are next. But

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I'm like, damn, I mean it looks bad. It like

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it looks really banged up in bruise, man. And here

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and I'll show you, like this is it? This is

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from the snowmobile.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty puffy, isn't it. It's like what somebody

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blows up a glove and somebody blows up like a

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prophylactic not a prophilectic glove, like a rubber glove, and

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then like you know, like, oh look it's a it's

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a balloon. That's kind of what it looks like your

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little fingers hanging out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, Disney would be a little bit better,

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wouldn't They had to show off and go go to Iceland,

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goofy like August. That sounds like it is kind of

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it's a it's a little weird.

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Speaker 2: God blessed they have the money to do that because

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Iceland's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Yeah, they got the means.

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Speaker 2: I always thought it was funny, like you go to

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the beaches of Croatia, like they just whenever they settled

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their land, agree with Bosny. It's like, okay, we get

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to keep the coastline. So if you ever look at

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a map of Croatia, it's like Bosnia is getting the

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stiff arm from the ocean, like, no, you can't get

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our beaches.

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Speaker 1: The beaches of Croatia are supposed to beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they kept it together.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the uh. I've never been beaches.

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Speaker 2: In basketball that's a Croatia's known.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even think of the beaches of Croatia like

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I saw on the CBS Sunday Morning Show this morning.

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they were just kind of recycling by summer. Yeah, I

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think I saw excuse, man, I think I saw some

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of this already. But they were doing a woman who

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has a bucket list, right, and she's checking all these

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things off her bucket list, and there was even like

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an eighty something. You're a woman who wanted to go

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one hundred and thirty miles an hour in a car

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around a racetrack, and so she got to drive one.

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a wish Seriously, I don't know, it's like if it's

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before I die or I'm not sure what it's called,

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but it's like it's like it is. It's it almost

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has the same logo. It's like, make a wish for

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old folks. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of cool. I guess that's.

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Speaker 2: The people in the middle that suffer.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So she got to to do the thing, and uh,

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but this other lady doesn't. I got it. I wouldn't

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put her. I put her my age, maybe a little

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bit older. And she's been to seventy countries. She tries

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to check up all this stuff off her bucket list,

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and she's probably single, which I always go, wouldn't you

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rather have somebody to do that stuff with? You know,

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I'm I'm realizing that having somebody who I guess I

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never really knew the term partner in a relationship, you

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know what I mean? Yeah, But somebody that you can

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lean on they can lean on you. Well, yeah, but

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it goes deeper and that and that the intimacy because

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a lot of a lot of us when we go

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well they were they were rather intimate. We know what

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that means, right in terms of sexual stuff. But to me,

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intimacy is so much deeper. It's knowing the feelings. It's

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being able to sort of read the energy of the person.

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It's having a connection that goes beyond like sex sexual stuff.

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Speaker 2: Being able to sort out.

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Speaker 1: Sex you can have with anybody. Intimacy, I don't think

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it can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, being able to sort off their pills.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or there are supplements or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, But funny, you were overdoing it, aren't we. I

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hear that every week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to get into that to the little Islex.

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It's coming up on this episode, trust me. But the

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I when I'm watching that, I go, boy, wouldn't you

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rather have somebody to do all this stuff with? That

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you can have these adventures that you can talk about

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remember when we were blank or that funny thing that happened,

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because you know, and it's just somebody to share it

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like what I would be able to, like,

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I've bet that. I have gone on several trips. In fact,

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we're going to later this month, we're going back to

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New York. Uh huh to watch the Yanks. Terrible but anyway,

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we're gonna watch them. But I can't imagine doing that

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by myself without having somebody with me to sharing those moments.

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You know, there's nobody else i'd rather be with, And

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there's nobody else i'd rather share that with than her.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't say the same thing. There's no I'm I

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have no idea. But yeah, I was getting text last

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night from the Killers. Oh really yeah? Greg? No, no,

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but Greg was Greg was in the picture but not no,

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oh yeah. And then I got other people videos. But

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I didn't see any Buffalo bills there, Okay, I don't.

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I don't think they. I saw the song being performed,

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but I did not see a bill on stage.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were afraid to go because of that.

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They thought it would be a crap show with the

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bills and everything else. And I'm like, I just go,

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Speaker 1: They did do a thing where they dropped like red

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and Blue Confettia did see that.

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Speaker 2: That's cool?

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Speaker 1: Uh, in support of the Bills, But I did not

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see whether or not. I didn't see any Bills players there.

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And they had practiced this morning, and I'm sure they.

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Speaker 2: Are they're practicing when I drove by.

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Speaker 1: Yeah so, But I but to have somebody to do

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all this stuff. But I go, man a bucket list

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like Croatia isn't a place I go. I want to

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go to the Maldives.

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Speaker 2: I don't remembere that is, I'm not sure I do either.

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Speaker 1: It looks so you're up Asia Asia, Okay, yeah, it

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looks great. And then there's some place called the Mexican Maldives.

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I'd like to go there, you know, I'd like to.

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But I have a lot of plans. I I don't

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know if it's the urgency of someone like my dad

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dying or it or what it is. It's been this

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way for a little while for me. But I feel

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like now I'm inspired to take action where I not

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necessarily was for a while. Yeah, I can't understand, you

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know what I mean, Like you're all of a sudden,

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gotta do it. I just gotta go do it. I

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just gotta make I gotta make it happen. But uh yeah,

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the Croatian I wouldn't think of doing. Yeah, when you

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and Beth travel, is it a is it a good thing?

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Speaker 2: That's a good thing? Yeah, although she does leave me

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around like a seeing eye doc.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no really yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because like me, I'm just kind of like looking around it. No,

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don't cross the street here, Yes, that's where in Austin once. Yes,

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that's Vince Young's bar. That's great, yo, let's let's stop

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watch the crosswalk. Okay, now let's cross the street. God. Yeah,

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because I'm like I'm in Austin, Texas, like, oh, look

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at this, oh Stevie ray Vaughan. Oh yeah, that's great, Honey,

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we need to cross the street now. No wait, wait,

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hold on, hold on, Well.

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Speaker 1: I guess you found the right person. Yeah, right, like

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doing that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's like if you were a billy Joel saw she

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sorts out my pis. Yeah, make sure I eat right.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I watched The Billy.

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Speaker 2: I Don't get hit by cars in the night.

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Speaker 1: I watched The Billy Dole. The second half of the

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Billy Joel document document documentary. Well, I was gonna say docuseries,

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don't think there's any more after this thinking because it

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says on your Thing, season one, episode one, Season one,

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episode two, I didn't realize he's now married a fourth time. Yeah,

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And it was weird because the Christie Brinkley. I must

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have dozed off as to how that dissolved, because that

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seemed at least well, look, she was doing a lot

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of what we do today in the eighties. She had

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a camera on them a lot, just personal video. There

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are times that that woman doesn't even have makeup on

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or she's not made up like a model. So it

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wasn't a vanity thing. I think it was strictly because

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she just loved being around him and really liked him

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and all this stuff. And I think it was the

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drinking that really ruined the marriage, his drinking and almost

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ambivalence to things. And she loved going on the road

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and taking the kid on the road. I mean she

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talked about it, she goes, I loved our road family.

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She seemed like a really cool woman, like just you

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know what I'm saying because don't forget. It's like she's

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a supermodel, you know what I mean. She could get anybody.

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She could get anybody, and for whatever reason, she chose

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to spend her time with you. And I don't know happened.

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But then he gets married after that, and it was

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some young chick that I forgot he was married to

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and she's just like and the drinking continued.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he didn't stop, didn't he crash his car and

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him to stop drinking. After like this is like, oh

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he's in the third marriage.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But then that.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing I had. My question is like,

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because I go, I know people who say to me,

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I would never like I've had I've heard more women.

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mean I wouldn't be in a relationship, but I would

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never tie with a man, which makes me go, hmm,

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what you say. But others have said, yeah, I would

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never be in another relationship. I don't want to be

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with anybody, and I don't know what that is. I

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feel like part of your longevity is the connection to people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like they say, people who are married live longer, right.

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Speaker 1: And I think I wonder if Billy Joel's still alive.

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Here's the fucked up part. Like you know, his one

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of his songs I absolutely love is Vienna Waits for You,

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His dad just disappeared when he was a kid, that

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his parents divorced and his father, you know, went back

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his I think his great his grandfather had escaped through

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Switzerland because they were Jewish and they were living in

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Germany and they identified as Germans but they knew and

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so they got out through Switzerland and the old his

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old man was over here and just did not like

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America to felt like there was still anti Semitism and everything,

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and went back and lived in Vienna and had got married,

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had another kid. Yes, Billy has a brother, brothers, and

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that guy's a conductor of a classic, like a classical.

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Speaker 2: Or in the family.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And then don't forget Billy Joel did his

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own classical album.

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Speaker 2: Yes he did.

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Speaker 1: I remember him being on Letterman and Letterman saying to him, so,

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I guess you got enough money then, because he's like,

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he goes, uh, you know any new albums or anything

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like that. He goes, now, I've been working on some

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classical music. He goes classical music. Really, so I suppose, uh,

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you got enough money? Then he gets no, one fine, right.

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Speaker 2: Wait, well, didn't he lose a ton of money too?

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Speaker 1: Think I don't know his probably no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yes.

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It was his ex brother in law was his manager.

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It was the previous administration's brother who he stayed friendly

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with and let operate. But the guy was buying Christie's Like,

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we would travel, we would be up in Maine. They

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would go to Maine a lot. Billy liked Maine, and

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so they were up in Maine and somebody's like, hey,

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you just bought property by us. You just did this.

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She's like, no, he didn't know. He didn't. And then

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she's like, Billy, something's up. And he had an audit

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done and I it was millions, millions, And that's when

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he's like, I gotta go back on the road. I

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got a tour. I gotta do this. And I think

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that really put a strain out.

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Speaker 2: And then and then like the part did they cover

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this in the documentary that he had to fire all

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his bandmates and bringing new people. He is that was

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covered and hired Gun.

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Speaker 1: We're all hired gun. And it makes it look really ugly.

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They are softer in this one, but it was she

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probably had no. It was a new producer who said,

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I love the singer, I love the writer of the songs,

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I love the piano player. I don't like anything else. Oh,

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he said, I feel like the band is just going

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through the motions. And he goes, I want to bring

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in my own guys, and he brought in different guys

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and yeah, and you even see. I was gonna say,

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Tito Torres, isn't he the drummer for Bonjovisico tores Ico Torres?

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But who's there? I thought there was.

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Speaker 2: Joey had a bassist they had to fire because he

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just wasn't.

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Speaker 1: No, but I'm trying to think this is the drummer

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of Billy. Joel is in the document docuseries and he

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talks about when they he covered him.

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Speaker 2: He kept him along for for longer than the rest

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of them, maybe, and eventually he said goodbye to him too.

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Speaker 1: No, I think they all got it. Looked like they

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all got the acts at once.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, most of them got the accent. He kept

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the drummer. And then the drummer went on a couple

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more tours, and then he starts getting calls like, you know,

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our friend Greg always gets calls for tickets from people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: This guy was like, hey, you got Billy Joe's go

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back on tour. Can you get me tickets? He goes,

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he is, and that's how he found out that Billy

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Joel had moved on from him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was.

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Speaker 2: They pulled him along for a while, then they got

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rid of him too.

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Speaker 1: All right, I don't I'd have to see. I did

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probably doze off because.

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Speaker 2: It was only so much. This is from this is

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from the Hired Gun documentary. That's where I got this yesterday.

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I just and no drinking, know anything. I just want

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that made abundantly clear.

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Speaker 1: But that's a true day. Here's my question. Can you

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get if it didn't work out three times in a marriage?

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Are you going for number four?

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Speaker 2: Depends if you're addicted to having somebody?

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Speaker 1: Well, but couldn't you.

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Speaker 2: Just as Taylor Johnny Carson, I mean, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I understand, but why the marriage piece? Why not just

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have some lifelong companion.

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Speaker 2: Why not Brick Flair tried to do it? Even that

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blew up?

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Speaker 1: Why not? Goldie Hawn's style isn't isn't Olie Han? Goldiehan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's his name?

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Speaker 1: Go to Pittsford and look around. You're gonna see a

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lot of oldie. But wouldn't you know? I don't know.

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I'm saying, like, would you try to stay with somebody? Look,

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you're more of a religious guy than I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Christian.

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Speaker 1: You could say that, yeah, But I was gonna say

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religious in terms of, you know, uh, the sanctity of

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marriage and that sort of thing. I I don't know

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where I stand. I think marriage should be respected as

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a union. I'm not saying I would never get married again,

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and that's not that's not the case. Uh, But I

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I would even if the person said to me, why

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don't we just live together, I'd be like, all right,

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I'd be cool with that. I don't need the thing.

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And here's where I've come to with forgiveness and now

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and and you tell me, well, no, I'm you don't

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love me anymo. I think that I don't. I'm not

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a big fan of the term forgiveness. I think things happen.

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I don't think people ever really forgive. I think we

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can get over it. I think we can have a

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different perspective on the situation. I think that sometimes people

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use really people like I don't know, Bill Moran. We

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were saying all the great things about bills, but they

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can be real assholes and can use very coarse language

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when they're angry. And that's something that that can really

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cut to the quick of people.

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Speaker 2: A lot of bills, I know, like alcohol, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And but I think also, like you know, all of them, Oh,

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there isn't one.

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Speaker 2: Even Billy Buffalo the other day had a beard in me. Yeah,

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he was over at Thirsties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Listen to Billy Joel talking to babes and having

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a beer. Yeah. So I think, like I I, yes,

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I believe we can move past things and like pick

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up and realize whatever happened happened and it doesn't matter.

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But is that what forgiveness is? Because I think some

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I think a lot of people want this big maya

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culpa of I'm so sorry that I blah blah blah,

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when you know maybe you are maybe aren't. I know

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that's a big part of recovery for people. Part of

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the twelve steps.

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Speaker 2: Is six step.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what number it is, but they go

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and they apologize for wrong things, and I guess it's

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just recognizing what you did. But to me, I think

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time and distance. I mean, even in the Billy Joel documentary,

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he wound up stealing his buddy's wife and then tried

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to commit to a suicide twice after that and then

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married the woman so and and they were hurt. The

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guy goes, yeah, I was hurt for a while. But again,

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I go, do we say forgive because that's the only

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word we have. Do you really forgive or you just

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realize you know what that was then and I don't

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care and my life turned out great, or maybe all

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everything happens for a reason, and I still really care

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about you, I still love you.

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Speaker 2: This is deep. This is deep because you know it's coming.

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Speaker 1: This is how my head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mine can't help a spiritual perspective because I've had

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a look at this too, Like if I haven't forgotten

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about what's happened to me, does that really forgiveness? And

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the Bible says yes, because you've got to be aware

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of what somebody is capable of, so that you don't

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trust them beyond you forgive them. You let it go,

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You let it go yourself. Jesus forgave you by dying

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on the cross and runting again, so now you need

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to forgive everybody else. Okay. At the same time, you

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still need to be aware of what that person could

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be capable of, so you don't trust them with those

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feelings in your heart, with this emotional bank account that

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you had, that you don't put too much stock in

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them because they can hurt. Like the expression fool me

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twice fo me wants shame on you, fool me twice,

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shame on me, or as President bush Onance said, you're

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not gonna film me in a second time, you know,

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so you gotta be aware of those things. Like Billy

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Joel may have forgiven. I'm just using this as an example.

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He may have forgiven his ex brother in law who

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stole all his money. But he's never gonna trust him

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with his money again.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I think so there is this fine line you can

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forgive people like I hope people forgive me for all

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the stupid things I've done. Remember, yeah, I'll give you

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a story.

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Speaker 1: You did.

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, I know, I know. Oh gosh, just I

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don't even want to remember it, but I remember. Actually,

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a couple of weeks ago. I don't even think the

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guy realized that I'm getting in the elevator. My wife

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is playing in a Bob Seeker tribute and you have

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to take an elevator to go up to this place.

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It's called Whiskey's Upper Deck. And the guy in the

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elevator who hops on with his young blonde girlfriend is

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the same guy who my ex wife that's a round

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with on me. Whoa, yeah, wait, he may have known

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it was me in the in the elevator.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

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wait wait.

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Speaker 2: The guy she left me for.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, he wasn't that young though, he's all sixty. Yeah,

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that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: He was like fifty something when it happened. Oh okay,

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I mean, he's probably beyond sixty. He looks good.

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Speaker 1: He's got a young blonde chick.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, she's at least she's younger than me.

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I know. The I don't think.

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Speaker 1: So kissing cousins.

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Speaker 2: Look like a daughter.

471
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: Okay, but.

472
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,079
Speaker 2: I and I remembered like that, and I laughed about it,

473
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,720
like you know, I like, I remember, I was so

474
00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:15,079
angry with this dude. Yeah, but then I realized, what

475
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,599
all the stupid things you've done in your life?

476
00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: Well, it's not that. It's like I think, a lot

477
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,799
of times we get mad at the at the wrong person. Yeah,

478
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:29,079
in that situation, it's your wife. I get. I got

479
00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:32,720
a guy who wants to write. You know, we're all men,

480
00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:35,359
the best of men are men at best. We all

481
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,559
do stupid things, and we're given the same set of circumstances.

482
00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: How many of us passed the test?

483
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: Right? I got a situation in my life that of

484
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:49,759
I can't no, well yeah, recently I guess that I

485
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,880
just go. I don't want that situation anymore. It doesn't

486
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,680
work for me, you know, and all this stuff. I

487
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,640
have no ill will towards anybody, but I just go.

488
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:03,160
I think boundaries are healthy and that's the difference. Like

489
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,119
I can forgive, Yes, I understand, but I get it.

490
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:08,200
But but but but this is the bound.

491
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 2: But it reminded me. It reminded me, and I'm like,

492
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,400
you know, you should just tell him thank thank you.

493
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,039
Well you just tell him thank you, Yeah, because he

494
00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:20,680
did you have favor. Well yeah, if we just looked

495
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,880
at forgivenesss hey, thank you for the lesson. Yeah, well

496
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,759
that's all it is, and thank you.

497
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,039
Speaker 1: For the lesson it is. That's always.

498
00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:31,079
Speaker 2: Guess what I've hurt people too in my life, intentionally

499
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,079
or not. Yeah, it doesn't matter. And so I'm so stupid.

500
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,240
I put my Lord and Savior on a cross, and

501
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,039
he forgave me and brought me into his family. I

502
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,079
I can't, dude, I can't hold a grudge against anybody

503
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:43,720
at that point.

504
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: I always think that you never get it wrong, no

505
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:53,720
matter what's happened, you never get it wrong. We we

506
00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:58,359
live and things go on and and the other part

507
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,279
of that is you never get it done. As you're

508
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:02,240
an eternal being, you're going to go on and on

509
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:05,920
and on in some form. So I don't try to

510
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,920
sweat these things too much. I would think that your

511
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,400
feelings are your your guidance, you know when something's right

512
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,559
or wrong. I think you need to honor your feelings.

513
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,880
I think a lot of times people are staying relationships

514
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,000
too long because they don't want to hurt somebody, and

515
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:24,200
then that just makes everything worse, you know.

516
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,799
Speaker 2: And I stayed in a relationship like way too long once.

517
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,880
Yeah it's like you you know who. I mean, it

518
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,759
was like years ago.

519
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: But we I just think like after a while, you

520
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:36,839
start to see and the most attractive thing I think

521
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:42,200
for anybody is someone who doesn't. My dad used to

522
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,359
say to me when I was a kid, you shouldn't

523
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,680
need anybody, but you to want to be with that person, right,

524
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:50,799
So you shouldn't.

525
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: Need them, right, and you should need anybody right.

526
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of times yeah, I mean,

527
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,119
and I always say and I said it as funeral,

528
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,599
and I've said here is I you know, I always

529
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:07,119
appreciate the time people give you. They don't you don't

530
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,960
know how much time you have or won't have on

531
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,519
this planet. As we were there saying go about it,

532
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,799
my dad, I said, you know, I appreciate everyone, everybody

533
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,759
who came here today for giving you the gift of

534
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:21,039
us the gift of your time. But I I'm not.

535
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,160
I don't know when it comes to forgiveness and stuff,

536
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,319
it's like, yes, I think it's a nice concept for

537
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,680
humans to absorb. I just don't think it's really there.

538
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,200
I think we just move past thing. I think time

539
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,880
here's the thing. There is you ready, You're ready for

540
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,079
fucking weird. There is no time. It's always now. It's

541
00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:48,559
always right now, yeah, always yeah, right. So there's no time.

542
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,599
Speaker 2: There's no time like a president.

543
00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:52,759
Speaker 1: Not no time like the president. There is no time.

544
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:56,599
It is always right now. That's a whacked out thing. No,

545
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,160
I get it, Okay. So everything thing we see and

546
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,960
everything we do is from a different perspective. So when

547
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:10,720
you're looking at a situation, you're looking at it from

548
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:14,079
a different perspective. You're older. We know we can say

549
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,359
twelve of the time, but you're a different it's a

550
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,319
different perspective on things. And I think that a lot

551
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,960
of times when we say time and distance heals all wounds.

552
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:25,720
I think that's really true because you have a different

553
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,400
perspective and you look back and go, God, that was silly.

554
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,160
I was so angry about that. And that's why I

555
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,680
think a lot of times. You got to go deep

556
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,240
inside yourself and find the beliefs and the things. And

557
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:36,839
I did not expect it to have any of these

558
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,440
conversations today, Dan, find those things that are stopping you,

559
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,000
blocking you, the beliefs that you have, and realize some

560
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,599
of it's bullshit. How many things have happened where you

561
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:49,799
look back and you go, what was I doing? What

562
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,240
was I thinking? Oh? Was I so angry about this?

563
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,839
Why was I so stupid? I'll tell you what. I

564
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,039
look back at our time together doing a show, and

565
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,880
there are times now where I wish I had laid

566
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,920
down my sword against management a little bit, just a

567
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,839
little bit, because they weren't bad people. No, they weren't

568
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:08,640
bad people at all.

569
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: They were a tough spot.

570
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: They're just just trying to, you know, do a thing

571
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:16,480
and protect And I come in fucking hot and I'm

572
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,079
gonna and I'm hot, and but I was pissed because

573
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,319
for whatever reason anyway, it doesn't matter, but maybe it

574
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,920
was misplaced anger. And I look back now and I go, yeah,

575
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,400
I wish I because you had relationships, you wish you

576
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:36,319
had treated it better, handled it better. And again it's

577
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,200
a lesson Leo's my friends, you know what, you know

578
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,079
what makes a nice gift. Honestly, if you're going even

579
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:45,079
to a picnic or something, you never want to show

580
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:48,039
up empty handy. Why don't you come with some Leo's cookies?

581
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:50,160
I would. Why don't you go over there and get

582
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,000
some Leo's Cannoli's The Canoli Station fill it right up

583
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,759
for you. They can fresh fresh, and you can get

584
00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:00,559
like chocolate chip filled, you can get it's it's delicious.

585
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,960
And then I like things like bores head was something

586
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,119
I grew up with in cold cuts and things. They're delicious.

587
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,200
They have a grabbing go case so you don't have

588
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,160
to wait in line. If you just know that I

589
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,880
want a quarter pound of cheat. They got it all

590
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,440
right there. They make it so convenient, so easy, and

591
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,440
don't forget two dollars a fresh bread. Yeah right, brilliant,

592
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,599
Yeah right there, all perfect. They got the stuff, breads,

593
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,279
they got everything, everything. Yeah, because what's the best thing

594
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:26,839
about Leo's.

595
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,599
Speaker 2: Yeah everything.

596
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,359
Speaker 1: Connors and Ferris handles workers comp, social security, disability and

597
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,319
personal injury cases. Listen, I get it. Workers comp claims

598
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,720
can be a real pain, but Connors and Ferris are

599
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,519
here to fight for you and get you the compensation

600
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,680
you deserve, whether you threw out your back on the job,

601
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:48,119
slipped when you should a grip, or your boss thinks

602
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,640
overtime means free labor. Spoiler, it doesn't. They've got your back.

603
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,799
At Connors and Ferris, with offices in New York City, Syracuse, Rochester,

604
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,079
and Buffalo, they're the go to team for getting the

605
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:05,440
compensation you deserve. No gimmicks, no nonsense, just real results.

606
00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:09,519
Call Connors and Ferris two six' to two. Comp that's

607
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:13,799
two six to two comp For connors And, ferris successful

608
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:17,039
guys who have been married multiple. Times we talk About

609
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,079
Billy joel AND i always, go it's a man of,

610
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:21,599
passion is my. Joke it's a man of, passion, right,

611
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,839
Yeah but would you say that of a. Woman and

612
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,960
this is where.

613
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:26,839
Speaker 2: You can well should be able.

614
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,799
Speaker 1: To we should be able.

615
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: To we would be of double standards for.

616
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: Everybody BECAUSE i was, like, Okay so my, initial as

617
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,759
my sister would probably, say my, initial missagnistic thought Was, god,

618
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:41,799
damn she fucked. Everybody i'm laying, there and THEN i,

619
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,759
STARTED i took it, deeper AND i, GO i think

620
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,119
she just fell in LOVE i think she really is

621
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,039
an artist and feels and had a connection to people

622
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,440
because the song By Tom, petty see she wanted to

623
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:00,480
be a. Heartbreaker so uhuh let me go back.

624
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: So i'm not just stop dragging my heart.

625
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Around came from, well let me let me, okay, no, no,

626
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,880
NO i want TO i don't want to go all

627
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000
over the place BECAUSE i. Will uh let me just

628
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,960
finish this. Story So Jimmy iveen says to, her we

629
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,680
don't have a, single and he Said Tom. Petty he,

630
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,799
Goes i'm working On Tom petty's album as. Well he

631
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,680
has a song that he wrote for. You and she's like,

632
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:29,599
okay and he, goes why don't you sing it with?

633
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,599
Him and she said, okay and she so they flew To. Florida,

634
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,720
NOW i, thought because don't forget WHEN i had to

635
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,200
do classic rock around the, country it's not LIKE i

636
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,079
always love. Interactions so WHEN i did afternoons locally AND

637
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:49,480
i had to play, MUSIC i would also grab phone

638
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,799
calls AND i could do stuff with. People, RIGHT i

639
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:55,440
could play with. People can't really play with people When i'm,

640
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,680
recording you, know A friday morning show that's going to

641
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:04,400
run in six or seven markets on A. WEDNESDAY i

642
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,920
can't get your live calls in, there SO i would

643
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:08,559
and a lot of it was classic, rock SO i

644
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,319
would talk about the, music AND i thought that this

645
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,799
Song edge of seventeen was the title came From Tom

646
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:22,680
petty's first, wife who had such A southern accent that

647
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:26,200
When Stevie nicks met, her she said, went how long

648
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:29,359
have you And tom been? Together and she, says since

649
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,920
the age of? Seventeen but it sounded like the edge of. SEVENTEEN, ok,

650
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,839
right you see What i'm. Saying So i'm not sure about.

651
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,319
Speaker 2: Any age of seventeen could be, yeah.

652
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah but the SE's where she got the title From

653
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:46,160
edge of. Seventeen so now she goes and records the

654
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,039
song With Tom. Petty but the Song Don't Come Around

655
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:53,039
Here No more By Tom penny and The, heartbreakers.

656
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:53,599
Speaker 2: It's About Stevie.

657
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,079
Speaker 1: Nicks yeah you didn't know, that? No oh.

658
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah so the only THING i know about that song

659
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,079
was THAT mtv made him cut part of the do

660
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,079
you he looked too he looked too strange cutting the,

661
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:05,640
cake the alice In. Wonderland he's cutting The yeah don't

662
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,160
come around, Here, no don't come around here No?

663
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:13,279
Speaker 1: More, Okay, so, okay there it. Is there there was a. Stalker,

664
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,720
no so no it's not look up who wrote the

665
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:21,839
song with? HIM i think it was a member of The,

666
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:26,119
Eurhythmics Dave. EDMUNDS i Think Dave edmunds was a member

667
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:32,400
of The. Eurhythmics So Dave edmunds gets the The rhythmics

668
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,440
land In. La they're they're getting, around meeting other people

669
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,200
and going to these. Parties Stevie nicks would have these big,

670
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:45,640
parties and she was Dating Joe. Walsh Was Dave, Stewart Dave, Stewart,

671
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,240
Okay Dave, stewart Not. Edmunds, okay So Dave. Stewart So

672
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:55,079
Dave stewart goes to her to her party and winds

673
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,160
up like passing out in a bedroom and wakes up

674
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,160
at five am to Dv knicks trying on all these different,

675
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,960
clothes which would be Like alice In. Wonderland, okay thus the,

676
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,639
Reference and all of a sudden the doorbell rings and

677
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,920
It's Joe, walsh who was not at the, party and

678
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,519
they get into a huge fucking argument at five. Am

679
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:23,159
she's screaming at him and, goes don't come around here

680
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,480
anymore and that's where the title of the, song and

681
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:29,960
it Was Dave stewart From The rhythmics wrote that With Tom. Petty,

682
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:35,000
yeah fucked up as that, right And i'm, like holy,

683
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:39,320
Shit Don, Henley Joe, Walsh Lindsey, BUCKINGHAM i, Think Mick,

684
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,519
Fleetwood Jimmy, Iavey.

685
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,159
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah like there was some bed hoping going.

686
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: On BUT i take it back because it's very easy

687
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,079
to make the knee jerk assumption of a lot of bed. Hop,

688
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,800
no he, SAID i think that she literally each time

689
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,519
had very strong, feelings maybe not always in, love but

690
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:03,000
had very strong emotional connections to these. PEOPLE i, think,

691
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:05,199
WELL i think that that could be part of. IT

692
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,280
i would love or you love the.

693
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,599
Speaker 2: Life and here's WHAT i mean by. That Fleetwood. Mac

694
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:14,880
people don't know. This Fleetwood mac had sixteen different members in.

695
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,599
It The Fleetwood mac that's in The rock And Roll

696
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:18,719
hall Of. Fame The Fleetwood mac that we know today

697
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Are Lindsey, Buckingham Stevie, Nicks Mick, Fleetwood john, McVie And christy. McVie,

698
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,239
okay but before, that there were no women in the. Band, Okay,

699
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,480
yeah this is the this is the final rendition of the.

700
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:34,719
Band and what happened was when they decided to Add

701
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,880
Lindsey buckingham to the. Band he, says, Well i'm not

702
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,760
coming Without Stevie. Nicks we're a package. Deal so they

703
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,920
Asked christy mcvi if she's. Okay says, yeah it would

704
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,440
nice to be have another friend in the, band a

705
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,000
girlfriend in the. Band so then, now So lindsey was

706
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:49,559
kind of her meal. Ticket he wrote all the, song

707
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,239
she just sang. Along she was his. Girlfriend then all

708
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,880
of a sudden they become bigger and. Bigger all of a,

709
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,199
sudden he's got wom the clawn at. Him she's starting

710
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:57,840
to get, fame and all of a, sudden now now

711
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,159
you're living this. Life he was her meal tik it

712
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:01,960
for a. While i'm not saying she didn't have her own,

713
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,599
success but she basically was long for the. Ride now

714
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,960
all of a, sudden she in the hall. TWICE i

715
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,880
don't know if she's in the hall, TWICE i don't

716
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,199
know she got inn. Solo The Rocker hall Of fame

717
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:12,400
is a.

718
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Mess, YEAH i, AGREE i HAVE i have a whole.

719
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:18,679
Speaker 2: SEGMENT i could do on. That but SO i think

720
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,320
that like all of a, sudden like if he was

721
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,039
the meal. Ticket, now who do you do you go

722
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:23,880
after other powerful? Musicians?

723
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah because what was her? Talent Who stevie's?

724
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,159
Speaker 2: Really, well she looked, good but she sang with such

725
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:33,760
a nasally, voice.

726
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:36,119
Speaker 1: But it was. DISTINCT i, mean, look Fucking Bob, dylan,

727
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,679
Please But Bob dylan wrote his own stuff though he

728
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,280
was wearing A.

729
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah later on with maybe some quick wick.

730
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: HELP i. LOVE i JUST i think she had a

731
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:50,119
very bohemian way about, her AND i think there was

732
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,679
a lot of we could call it the free love.

733
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,559
Era i'm not sure that it's the free love, era

734
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:57,800
as much AS i think she had a deep connection

735
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,960
to every person she was involved. WITH i really do

736
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:04,960
who else you're yelling at five? Am then somebody actually

737
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,880
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Jose Luis Torres barrios does he play for The? Mets,

787
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:14,639
no he. Doesn't he got arrested at Finger. Lakes, oh

788
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,000
AND i don't think he's a jockey. Either i'm not sure.

789
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:26,320
Though go, on but he's thirty four years. Old he

790
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,440
got arrested and had to be physically removed from the

791
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,960
bar section by security after a verbal. Altercation he allegedly

792
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:38,679
threatened to go, home make multiple explosives and use them

793
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,760
to blow up the casino as well as the people.

794
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,119
Speaker 2: Inside that's an automatic you're going to j, now hang, On.

795
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm, thinking did you lose? MONEY i, mean only at Finger?

796
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:53,039
Lakes could you lose three hundred dollars in the slot

797
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:56,039
machine and fucking lose your? Mind? Right that's enough State New.

798
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:58,199
York that's A Western New york. Thing, yes BUT i,

799
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,880
go so here's my, question And i'll put it this.

800
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,440
Way the guy makes this, threat do you Think Jose

801
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:11,360
Luis Torres Barrios AND i, KNOW i, KNOW i, know

802
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,039
we always have to. SAY i think his name is

803
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:18,440
longer than the explosives he has in this. HOUSE i

804
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,639
don't think there are explosives in this. HOUSE i don't

805
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:23,840
think he has the ability to do. This BUT i

806
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,280
get it because now we, go, well he's, threatened, right

807
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,039
and well if we didn't do, anything and then something, Happens.

808
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah it's like the backpack at the, airport, Sir.

809
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah you know WHAT i. Mean BUT i, go is

810
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:43,639
this security theater or real? Safety and there's a piece

811
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:46,159
of me that is starting to say AND i get,

812
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:49,360
it it's post nine to, eleven but we're twenty, six

813
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:50,599
twenty five years.

814
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: Years Of Silver anniversary at.

815
00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: Eleven AND i, go at some, point it feels like

816
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,679
security theater to, Me like this guy makes a threat

817
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,679
inside a, bar at a. Casino he probably lost, money

818
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,840
he's agitated at whatever. HAPPENS i don't. Know they don't

819
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,599
give you much more on the, incident BUT i, go

820
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:16,760
what really happens behind the? Scenes when someone makes a terroristic,

821
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,719
threat we could say that that would be a domestic terroristic. Threat,

822
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,199
sure and what are casinos prepared? For and here's WHAT

823
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,920
i started to. THINK i, GO i have talked to

824
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,320
The Fairport police And i'd love to get them back

825
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,400
in here doing compcast. Again we haven't done that in a.

826
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,119
While but if you talk To Chief Matt, barnes the things,

827
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:38,800
like you, know what's coming up in a couple of

828
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,599
weeks is The Fairport Music. Fest they have, drones they

829
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,800
have other. Agencies there's people just WALKING i saw. THEM

830
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,880
i saw undercover, guys AND i, mean you're not that.

831
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:54,039
Undercover but they were in like playing. Clothes one had a,

832
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:58,840
backpack one had another. Thing well they're big muscle dudes

833
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,320
walking Around AND i, go so there's no way two

834
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,960
dudes ripped with muscle, right are just walking around canal

835
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:11,440
days because they're looking for a shepherd's hook to hang

836
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,519
their potted plan. On you don't understand What i'm, Saying

837
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,559
like it ain't happening that you stand out like a short.

838
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:21,719
Thump it's nice to know. Exactly it's, like, oh stained,

839
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,760
GLASS i want a bird? Bath, Yea oh do you

840
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,440
know what we need and it's like my wife would love.

841
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,320
THIS i get this in. BLUE i just, Uh i'm

842
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,079
glad they're. There but do you ever THEN i have

843
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,280
to take it to us as, individuals like we we

844
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,480
say what do we say earlier about our? Healthcare you

845
00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:43,199
have to be THE ceo of your?

846
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: Health?

847
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,599
Speaker 1: Okay so do we have to be THE ceo of

848
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,400
our safety as? Well should we be? Aware AND i

849
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,400
THINK i think to, myself fucking, know BECAUSE i don't

850
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,119
want to live. PARANOID i don't AND i don't think

851
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:59,119
about this. SHIP i don't think about this ship at.

852
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,320
All and MAYBE i don't think about this ship Because

853
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,679
i'm a middle aged white guy and nothing's gonna happen to.

854
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: Me, yeah that's a good point being you know What i'm.

855
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: SAYING i, mean. Nobody, look no one's looking to rape,

856
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,119
me no one's looking to rob, me no.

857
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: ONE i also, think, like, okay to bring it back To,

858
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:15,199
Jose Maria olethabo, Here.

859
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:18,519
Speaker 1: Luis Teros, Berrio, okay Torres, Berry.

860
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: Okay so don't you think, that Like, okay there's police

861
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,639
officers and in their security okay, security like want to be? Police? Really,

862
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,719
Okay so when you sign up to be. Security oftentimes

863
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,800
you look for those moments where you can look like

864
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,000
the big hero so to. Speak, right so, like, ah

865
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:37,360
there's nothing to. Fear he like that That George zimmerman,

866
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,760
dude that was a guy who on a power trip

867
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:44,840
Murdered Trayvon martin got way carried. Away but sometimes security

868
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,840
can get carried. Away and Now i'm not saying this

869
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,039
guy shouldn't have been. Arrested he's making. Threats but What

870
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:52,119
i'm saying is that like they will make a bigger

871
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,400
show out of it than what needs to be.

872
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,039
Speaker 1: WELL i WOULD i made know exactly what you're, saying

873
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:00,960
and it does make you go if you heard that

874
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,360
guy at the, bar do you take him? Seriously? Right

875
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,480
do you? Say here's WHAT i would. Go it's Like i'm.

876
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:12,559
Staying If i'm sitting with, SOMEBODY i go all in

877
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,039
for dinner and a show to because you know there

878
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:17,239
is somebody's gonna come and slam them to the ground

879
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,719
and rest. Them and YOU i can't imagine that this

880
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,760
was a soft, arrest but you got.

881
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: It it's like THE wwe all of a, sudden here

882
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,519
come the security guards with the, cops but they With

883
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,519
Steve austin steam hits.

884
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,639
Speaker 1: People, go, well freedom of speech, first terroristic. Threats you

885
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:37,880
can't yell. Fire you can't yell fire in a. Theater

886
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:41,679
you can't Say i'm blow this. Up you just. Can't

887
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:45,000
so it's not a blurry edge. Between but it is

888
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:48,280
a blurry edge when a person's, drunk do we do

889
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,039
we take into consideration the? Drunk you throw him? Out

890
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,320
how is he getting to his? House was he there

891
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,679
with somebody who can take? Him you know WHAT i?

892
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:00,360
Mean and what and maybe he does have? EXPLOSIVES i don't,

893
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,400
know you, know it comes back with a comes back

894
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,679
with a couple of bottle rockets and fires him off

895
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,960
At edna gets hitting the. Ass oh you.

896
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: Won the.

897
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,519
Speaker 1: Slots no.

898
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: Reverse by the time you listener get this, Tomorrow tuesday

899
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,480
will be the debut Of Hard knocks and everybody will

900
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,280
be like tweeting this one. Up please can we wait

901
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,119
till the end of the episode before we start tweeting?

902
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,360
Along but in all, seriousness because everyone's gonna offer their.

903
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,400
Opinion i'm SURE i will offer mind to So i'll have.

904
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,239
Thoughts i'll have a lot of thoughts, coming you, know

905
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,639
WHEN i come back on the. Podcast BUT i want

906
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:38,840
to talk about, this this and. This, uh but like

907
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,760
the wide receivers are pretty banged. Up you got a

908
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,800
lot of guys begged up for just playing touch football.

909
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,760
BASICALLY i, mean, yeah there's some contact and. Stuff, yeah but,

910
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:50,880
uh that's a lot of soft tissue.

911
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,079
Speaker 1: Injuries, yeah it's a little, scary all, Right, well there's soft.

912
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:59,599
Tissue though nobody's done for the, season hang. Around they

913
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:00,920
haven't played preseason game.

914
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,679
Speaker 2: Yet you got fifty, guys they hang.

915
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,159
Speaker 1: Around that's the problem with soft, tissue especially, hamstring, right

916
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:09,239
that stuff hangs around for a.

917
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,199
Speaker 2: WHILE i would just practice the third. Striggers but, then

918
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,280
like you, know the rookies got everybodys gotta get. WORK i,

919
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,719
mean it's it's gonna be, tough. MAN i know. THAT

920
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,320
i said before the season. STARTED i said their favorite

921
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,039
at every. Game so there's no excuse why they can't

922
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,679
go on the. FEED i didn't say they, would but

923
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,440
these are the reasons why you. Don't and every other

924
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:28,960
year The bills seem to lose five or six games

925
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:32,440
and have a rough. Ride and last, year you know

926
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:35,400
they had a lot of Take they lost three games

927
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,159
last year or four. Games the last one doesn't count

928
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:41,079
because it was At New. England they were just they didn't.

929
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:43,960
Care but it's gonna be a tough, year tougher year

930
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,559
than people think because people thought last year would be

931
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:48,119
the tough. Year this year is gonna be. Tough, man

932
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,840
with all these. Injuries if they keep hurting. THEMSELVES i,

933
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,440
know it's only like it's Only august, Fourth.

934
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,599
Speaker 1: Yes, yes it. Is just put everybody on the.

935
00:47:57,639 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: Shelf they'll figure it out.

936
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: The first day.

937
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,639
Speaker 2: Stuff because The yankees are oh they're.

938
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: Terrible do they do?

939
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 2: It they're the Billy they're the dumbest team maybe in.

940
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,039
Baseball they're definitely the Dubbest yankee team. Ever there's the GM's,

941
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,840
dumb the owner's, dumb the manager's. Dumb the players are.

942
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: DUMB i thought they went and got some. Closers they

943
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:19,519
all blew it On friday.

944
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:20,039
Speaker 2: Nights they were.

945
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:22,199
Speaker 1: Terrible they all they gave.

946
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: Up they were up how many?

947
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:34,679
Speaker 1: Runs? Six ah, sports it's a great way to express

948
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,039
all your.

949
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: Interring the only thing they overshadowed that was it The

950
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,000
rockies came back and beat The pirates sixteen fifteen or.

951
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,320
Something The pirates or The. Pirates The banks are in. Trouble,

952
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,480
man they're not making a. Postseason maybe, no it's. Over

953
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,880
maybe's overdup it stop.

954
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: It For Dan, Morillo I'm Bill, moran will see You

955
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,000
tomorrow

956
00:48:54,239 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: And the Doc Flow murder a rat From Missus sibilan

957
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,920
and Almost miners