Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy
Speaker 2: schedule and coming and gracing.
Speaker 1: Our couch with your presence.
Speaker 2: I feel like I got the chance to watch her
Speaker 2: documentary this week and I fell in love with it.
Speaker 2: You fell in love with your story French. She introduced me, guys,
Speaker 2: to your whole story, and I was very moved by
Speaker 2: the whole documentary.
Speaker 1: It was very beautifully laid out.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're a very courageous, inspiring woman to
Speaker 2: have dealt with everything that you've dealt with and still
Speaker 2: come on top and in such a beautiful way. So
Speaker 2: I want you to come here and talk about that
Speaker 2: a little bit. Tell us a story, tell us how
Speaker 2: the whole documentary kind of came about.
Speaker 1: Of like being into fruition.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that one of the things that happened
Speaker 3: for Neolexus was that when Rob and I married, we
Speaker 3: had been high school sweethearts since I was sixteen, and
Speaker 3: so when he finally settled hisself down and asked me
Speaker 3: to marry him, we had three children between us, and
Speaker 3: it was the happiest moment of my life. And so
Speaker 3: I pulled out this care or because I wanted to
Speaker 3: document it all. I'm like, I have just done the
Speaker 3: best thing ever in my life.
Speaker 2: It just started mainly of just like doing family videos,
Speaker 2: kind of like documenting like the whole process of it,
Speaker 2: and then kind of just rolled into something even more
Speaker 2: beautiful for the world to see.
Speaker 4: Just because we had made something beautiful together.
Speaker 3: And so about six months after that, we found ourselves
Speaker 3: in a financial crisis as a family and in Louisiana's
Speaker 3: criminal justice system, which is the worst in the world.
Speaker 3: Louisiana leads the entire world in incarceration. And at that
Speaker 3: point the filming continued because I just was in awe
Speaker 3: that our lives that were so beautiful just six months
Speaker 3: prior had ended up in such a desperate, really intermultuous experience,
Speaker 3: and so I had to keep recording, you know, I
Speaker 3: had to keep documenting. And so probably about maybe ten
Speaker 3: years into our sentence, Rob ended up going to prison
Speaker 3: and getting getting sentenced to sixty one years. So probably
Speaker 3: about ten years into his sentence, after I had come
Speaker 3: home from prison, it was still imperative for me to
Speaker 3: keep recording because at this point I'm thinking, certainly maybe
Speaker 3: we needed to be not even maybe we needed to
Speaker 3: be our behavior needed to be rectified, but a life
Speaker 3: sentence for us when we took five thousand dollars, I
Speaker 3: felt was extremely harsh and abrasive and a.
Speaker 4: Misuse of justice for sure.
Speaker 3: And so we continued to film at that point because
Speaker 3: we were hopeful to use it as a tool to
Speaker 3: get vibe about well with the work of our family.
Speaker 3: Over twenty one years, we were finally able to bring
Speaker 3: him home, and so then the documentary took another life
Speaker 3: of its own to be able to share with people that,
Speaker 3: you know, a story of love and hope and no
Speaker 3: matter what situation you find yourself in, when you sit
Speaker 3: together as a family, love never fails and you can
Speaker 3: make it.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. I feel like, you know, it's definitely a
Speaker 2: true love story. You guys, you know went through a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, trials and tribulations, and you know,
Speaker 2: being from so young at age at sixteen, not really knowing,
Speaker 2: like I mean at that point, like what really love
Speaker 2: is or what that could even inspire to be into
Speaker 2: certain things, and then going through such to traumatic situations,
Speaker 2: It's like, how did you keep that love alive?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: That is a good question. I like him, he all right,
Speaker 3: you know. You know, I think about our filmmaker Gear Bradley.
Speaker 3: She's got me croning at the beginning of the movie, like, Oh,
Speaker 3: I just love me some whobbery.
Speaker 2: It can definitely tell, Like in the you know, the
Speaker 2: whole movie, I was like, you could tell like from
Speaker 2: you as a woman.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been in love. I've had my own situations.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm divorced, but you know, definitely you feel
Speaker 2: that loving times. But it's like you can tell from
Speaker 2: your facial you know, just her facial expressions, like just
Speaker 2: your you. You just exude that you were in love
Speaker 2: with him and that was like really meant to be
Speaker 2: in a sense and not even knowing you really in
Speaker 2: the beginning of the whole you know documentary, it was
Speaker 2: just like more portrayed on you and your path of
Speaker 2: what it went down to, your story.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. So what do you think, what did it make?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: How do you keep it working? You know, doing that time, Rob,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 5: You just keep doing the next right thing. It starts
Speaker 5: with a feeling, you know, as far as love is concerned.
Speaker 5: And the minute that I met Fox, she may mention
Speaker 5: we're high school sweethearts. From the very first moment that
Speaker 5: I laid eyes on her, there was like this little
Speaker 5: thing that happens on the inside, and people that have
Speaker 5: been in love before they know that.
Speaker 2: Feeling butterflies right right, that makes makes like, oh okay,
Speaker 2: nobody else may before.
Speaker 5: That's right, So you know that thing, and I continue
Speaker 5: to feel it over and over and over again with Fox.
Speaker 5: And then it became, you know, at that point to
Speaker 5: where I like seeing her smile, so I wanted to
Speaker 5: do things continuously that make her smile.
Speaker 1: Uh, definitely has a beautiful smile, right.
Speaker 5: You know, I like the way she lasts or you know,
Speaker 5: I always wanted to, you know, provide comic relief in
Speaker 5: our relationship. So it became things about it became very intentional.
Speaker 5: You know, when you find somebody that you love and
Speaker 5: you want to spend time with them, you know, you
Speaker 5: do things to kind of show that you know, you
Speaker 5: want to be with them. And I think I just
Speaker 5: kept doing that, and she kept doing it back, and
Speaker 5: the more she did it back, I would do it.
Speaker 6: Back to her.
Speaker 3: You know, my son Justice probably says it best about love.
Speaker 3: When he was a kid, we were a visit with
Speaker 3: his father at Angola Prison and he had. His name
Speaker 3: is Justue. He liked started liking this girl in his
Speaker 3: in his class and second grade. Her name was Justice,
Speaker 3: and uh, and he says, I'm in love. And we said, well,
Speaker 3: how do you know you're in love Justice? And he says,
Speaker 3: because I chase her and she chased me. I kiss
Speaker 3: her and she kissed me.
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, that's pretty simple, all right.
Speaker 1: I like it. Sometimes it can be just as that simple.
Speaker 2: Yes, But so did you feel like you kind of
Speaker 2: continuously kind of date each other within, you know, your
Speaker 2: prison sentence, because how do you keep such you know,
Speaker 2: a beautiful woman who's fighting for you on the outside, Like,
Speaker 2: how do you keep her into your loving relationship?
Speaker 5: Well, strangely enough, Fox and I grew started our relationship.
Speaker 5: I was in the military home on leave when I
Speaker 5: met Fox. So even from the onset of our relationship,
Speaker 5: we had a distant relationship because I stationed in Europe
Speaker 5: and she was a seventeen year old girl here in
Speaker 5: high school. And with that being said, there was a
Speaker 5: lot of phone calls. I only came home maybe twice
Speaker 5: a year on leave, and at that time it would
Speaker 5: maybe be for two weeks to maybe thirty days Max
Speaker 5: that I would be at home.
Speaker 1: So you feel like that prepared you a little bit
Speaker 1: to kind.
Speaker 6: Of fortunate unfortunately.
Speaker 3: But to make it thirty four years we've been together, right,
Speaker 3: we've been married In April, it'll be twenty four years,
Speaker 3: and we have lived together as husband and wife for
Speaker 3: a whole two years out of that thirty four year rags.
Speaker 1: And how is that working for you?
Speaker 3: Well, he's still smiling and I am too, so you know,
Speaker 3: you might keep around a little longer, Like, so this
Speaker 3: shit is working.
Speaker 2: Was it a big adjustment period when you got out
Speaker 2: to like now you go? You had your relationship you
Speaker 2: know behind, you know, in prison and you being out
Speaker 2: is was it difficult to kind of transition in back
Speaker 2: into a relationship in the outside world.
Speaker 6: I think we both have two different up.
Speaker 3: I think for me it was probably, you know, just everything,
Speaker 3: you know, when he rob came home, we had lost
Speaker 3: our business. I had held on as long as I
Speaker 3: could to the family business, and before he came home
Speaker 3: it folded. So when he came home, we were broke, broken, shit,
Speaker 3: and and so just trying to get I think the
Speaker 3: first year was just trying to get our feet up.
Speaker 3: Unto us and figuring out how is it that we're
Speaker 3: going to be able to move in life now together.
Speaker 3: And then the second year, I think, after you kind
Speaker 3: of get that situated and realize okay, yeah, you're really home,
Speaker 3: then the next phase of it for us was our
Speaker 3: sexual liberation. We had worked for twenty one years to
Speaker 3: oppress our sex drive and that's a hell of a
Speaker 3: manipulative and dogmatic and mind bending thing to do. And
Speaker 3: so just trying to reacclimate ourselves to what it means
Speaker 3: to even be human, you know, to touch, to feel,
Speaker 3: and know that you really can do so freely. So
Speaker 3: it's like a whole reprogramming thing that he and I
Speaker 3: have been going through.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because even in our prison experience, I don't know
Speaker 5: if a lot of people know this, but you're only
Speaker 5: entitled to two kisses when your family, you know, So
Speaker 5: you get a kiss when of your family members first arrive,
Speaker 5: and then you get a kiss at the end. So
Speaker 5: it was a thing that we have as a family
Speaker 5: among us that when you look at the billboard for
Speaker 5: the for the film, it's a picture of us.
Speaker 6: Kissing one another.
Speaker 5: So we laugh oftentimes about the fact that here we
Speaker 5: were for the last two decades only being allowed to
Speaker 5: kiss each other twice a day, and now we're depicted
Speaker 5: kissing all over the world, right.
Speaker 4: I said, we've been stealing kisses in visitation and now.
Speaker 1: To make up for.
Speaker 2: Us.
Speaker 1: I can't blame not.
Speaker 2: So do you feel like it was almost kind of
Speaker 2: like the first time again when you got to actually
Speaker 2: finally get into, you know, be with each other intimately
Speaker 2: again had that.
Speaker 5: Same little quirky kind of feeling that you feel when
Speaker 5: you don't really know your way around this person's you know,
Speaker 5: workings or whatever.
Speaker 6: And it takes a little time.
Speaker 4: But we're warming up right.
Speaker 1: At a time.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And I think the further way that
Speaker 3: we move from just even the hardships we are even
Speaker 3: now beginning with the release of the film, was the
Speaker 3: first time we realized, Alex is that we have been
Speaker 3: even unpacked all of the pain and the tumal that
Speaker 3: we that the separation trauma caused us. And so just
Speaker 3: even going through the interviews after they ended, we were like, whoa,
Speaker 3: you know, I've never even thought about any of this
Speaker 3: stuff they're asking us.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure it's like you said, it's very different
Speaker 2: for both sides. You know what I mean it's like
Speaker 2: it's you forget often because we're human, like what we
Speaker 2: do suppress so much because you just deal with it
Speaker 2: because we have to live. We have to keep going one,
Speaker 2: you know, food and foot in front of the other
Speaker 2: and kind of just we have no other choice but
Speaker 2: to succeed that way. But you also don't realize how
Speaker 2: much intimate or like personal things that you kind of
Speaker 2: like have to heal. That's why I say like that,
Speaker 2: you know, dating each other and being intimate with each
Speaker 2: other or doing all those sweet things that you know,
Speaker 2: continue a relationship for as long as you guys have
Speaker 2: been together, we've.
Speaker 6: Been so twisted.
Speaker 5: We used to go back and look at Google and
Speaker 5: google how many times people are have sex with trying
Speaker 5: to figure out, like, we're doing it too much and
Speaker 5: we're not doing it enough.
Speaker 1: So what's the number?
Speaker 3: Oh that that really put things in a perspective, right
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I don't think we're doing it enough.
Speaker 1: I think we should be.
Speaker 7: You're like, and.
Speaker 3: He got it frustrated and he googles it. You know,
Speaker 3: he's like the Google wizard. I never think about friend
Speaker 3: is his friend and so he looks at says he
Speaker 3: puts it on his reading glasses and he says, do
Speaker 3: you know that people in Japan have sex?
Speaker 8: What was it?
Speaker 6: Three year?
Speaker 4: Three times a year?
Speaker 1: I could not be in Japan.
Speaker 5: Moving, But even in our country, you don't actually realize
Speaker 5: how little people are actually sexually engaged in there, you know,
Speaker 5: in a relationship to one another. So when we start
Speaker 5: looking at the numbers and start saying, well, okay, ship,
Speaker 5: I think we're doing.
Speaker 1: Pretty good, so what is your number?
Speaker 6: It varies from one week to the next.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like having a good game one day,
Speaker 5: you all and other days the jumper is just.
Speaker 1: Hitting no other ways. You just find ways to make
Speaker 1: up to go in that game.
Speaker 3: I think we've had experiences where we have had seven
Speaker 3: within a twenty four hour time, remember, and that was beautiful.
Speaker 3: And then we have had where we may go a
Speaker 3: week and be like, oh wait a minute, hold.
Speaker 4: Up right, hey, you I got access to you.
Speaker 2: So here's the one inimating at the most me, that's
Speaker 2: the honest question me.
Speaker 3: And to a point where you know, I have to
Speaker 3: sometimes just wait on him to get his little feelers together,
Speaker 3: like well then' like are you coming over? You're not
Speaker 3: coming over? But nonetheless, it is whenever he decides to
Speaker 3: come by.
Speaker 4: It's pretty nice.
Speaker 2: So how did you find your strength with having you know,
Speaker 2: him gone for twenty one years, with not being a
Speaker 2: sexual being? If you're you know, you obviously seem like
Speaker 2: you are sexual being. You watched my movies before you
Speaker 2: came here.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, No, thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: I'm just here time.
Speaker 2: So how did you find that strang to like really
Speaker 2: kind of you know, do the work and stay committed
Speaker 2: into your relationship and you know, not have sex.
Speaker 8: I think that you it is how you have sex, right, because.
Speaker 4: There's different things.
Speaker 3: I think one of the things for us was just
Speaker 3: being able to have phone conversations and you use whatever
Speaker 3: tools that you have when you're trying to survive, and
Speaker 3: and so I think that it is about one of
Speaker 3: the things that help with the discipline was just the
Speaker 3: fact that you were on a mission. I knew that
Speaker 3: the system was out to destroy my family, not because
Speaker 3: the choices that I had made were so heinous, but
Speaker 3: because the state launched its own violence against me and
Speaker 3: my family for our actions. And so just in that
Speaker 3: deep resolve not to succumb to this, Uh, it just
Speaker 3: made me fight even harder and knowing that I've got
Speaker 3: to stay focused if I'm gonna get this done, if
Speaker 3: if we're going to restore our family, we all have
Speaker 3: to stay focused.
Speaker 1: I applaud you for that. I take that. Thank you
Speaker 1: very I mean, it's not easy, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a long time.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you find somebody that your high
Speaker 2: school sweetheart you found, you know, you know that that's your match,
Speaker 2: but you're like, you're there's something behind or there's something
Speaker 2: in front of you that you can't get to that person.
Speaker 2: So it's like, what do you do to fill that time?
Speaker 2: Did you watch porn? Did you masturbate regularly? Did you
Speaker 2: do all these things all of.
Speaker 4: The above, okay with my sons in the room.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, because that's human nature. And I think,
Speaker 3: you know, even with our incarceration, that was the piece
Speaker 3: that we you know, I served two and a half
Speaker 3: years in prison myself, and so it was like, how
Speaker 3: is it that breaking the law ended up becoming sadistic
Speaker 3: enough where people say, well, we're going to remove what
Speaker 3: is human about you and your ability to have sexual
Speaker 3: intercourse while you're incarcerated. How does that have anything to
Speaker 3: do with me breaking the law. So I think that
Speaker 3: that's really like a mechanism of control.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 3: It also creates genetical nihilation because when you have men
Speaker 3: that you lock up for ten and twenty years, in
Speaker 3: particular black men, they can't pro create if they cannot
Speaker 3: reach their mates. There's only like five or six states
Speaker 3: that have conjugal visits. But again, I'm still human when I.
Speaker 4: Break the law.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the case for you guys at all.
Speaker 3: No, No, it says that I am I am human
Speaker 3: when I broke the law. It didn't remove my humanity,
Speaker 3: It didn't remove my citizenship. Why in the world does
Speaker 3: it remove my sexual activity and my ability?
Speaker 2: You're married and it's like a union, and it's like
Speaker 2: it's something that is it's a legal paper documentation. So
Speaker 2: why wouldn't be able to touch my mate?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: I didn't lose that in my criminal in my the
Speaker 3: court's decision. So how did that even become a part
Speaker 3: of it is really questionable in our society.
Speaker 2: So what do you think that needs to be changed
Speaker 2: within the system, you know, with going all the stuff
Speaker 2: that you've gone through, and like to implement to not
Speaker 2: have these things happen again.
Speaker 3: I think for Rob and I U an organization called
Speaker 3: Participatory Defense Movement NOLA where we train other families in
Speaker 3: legal awareness as the best form of defense. When we
Speaker 3: entered into this system, we were just like so many others.
Speaker 3: We were good people that just made a dumb or
Speaker 3: wrong mistake. And so just because we make a mistake,
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that you should have to pay for
Speaker 3: it with the rest of your life. And so now
Speaker 3: we train other families how to deal with and how
Speaker 3: to approach those mistakes when they're made through participatory by
Speaker 3: participating in your own defense, which is what you see
Speaker 3: in the movie. Time with me making the phone calls,
Speaker 3: with me following up with the attorneys and the judge's office,
Speaker 3: is just me participating because I'm not just laying on
Speaker 3: the sideline for you to decide what you're going to
Speaker 3: do about my family. I'm going to actively participate in
Speaker 3: the process.
Speaker 2: And most people, I'm sure don't know what to do,
Speaker 2: Like where do you start? Where do you go through?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And that's kind of like I think a beautiful thing
Speaker 2: within your documentary is that how you've kind of opened
Speaker 2: those doors to let families know that there is things
Speaker 2: you can do. That's just because they tell you no
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that's no. It means that there is other
Speaker 2: things that you can do. You may have to be
Speaker 2: a little bit harder and jump through some more hoops unfortunately,
Speaker 2: but there is also you know, you just don't give up.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think you know, even with whether it's in incarceration,
Speaker 3: whether it's you pursuing a career that others in society
Speaker 3: may not see as the best career choice for you, you
Speaker 3: still have to fight to get there. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you. You had something that you believed
Speaker 3: in that you were passionate about. You left your small
Speaker 3: town in Texas and came out here to LA and
Speaker 3: you are doing, you know, bringing forth what you have
Speaker 3: come into this life to do. Because sex is a
Speaker 3: very important part of our humanity for sure.
Speaker 2: And I feel like, you know, it's you know, if
Speaker 2: there're parallels, but very similar in certain things. It's like
Speaker 2: where you know, you get ridiculed because you make decisions
Speaker 2: or whatever. Just because I made a decision doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that's right for you. But that's why I always go
Speaker 2: with to each his own what works for me may
Speaker 2: not work for you. But work works for you doesn't
Speaker 2: work for me either. But you know, within my own lane,
Speaker 2: if I'm doing something that I want to do with
Speaker 2: mine was in the sex industry, was that's how I
Speaker 2: performed or I say, like created my art. That's how
Speaker 2: I expressed myself. I was very you know, comfortable in
Speaker 2: my own skin. I didn't think that it was I
Speaker 2: never felt like used or like something like that. It
Speaker 2: was all in my own you know, timeline and what
Speaker 2: I wanted to do and portray to the world. And
Speaker 2: I feel like I've gotten so much positive feedback throughout
Speaker 2: the years about from you know, body imaging and just
Speaker 2: like just being comfortable on your own skin and talking
Speaker 2: about it. You know, I think education is really important.
Speaker 2: If you don't know and educate yourself enough to know that,
Speaker 2: then sex could quote unquote be bad, or you know,
Speaker 2: the prison system could be you know bad, or choices that.
Speaker 1: We make could be bad. But it's like, if we.
Speaker 2: Educate our you know, the world, then we're way more
Speaker 2: ahead of our game than we can ever be.
Speaker 4: We'll say it.
Speaker 2: Alexis, So besides the documentary, what do you what else
Speaker 2: do you have?
Speaker 1: Going on.
Speaker 3: I think for us just the fight for other people,
Speaker 3: it is for us. One our nephew Rob and I
Speaker 3: committed this offense with his nephew and he would receive
Speaker 3: forty five years and he had mace, no weapon, and
Speaker 3: so we still are working to bring him home. And
Speaker 3: we have Louisiana's longest serving woman. She's done fifty years
Speaker 3: in prison and we're working to get clemency for her
Speaker 3: as well. So it is the when you're free, you're
Speaker 3: free to free others. And you know in your own
Speaker 3: sexual liberation, whether it's one orgasm at a time, that
Speaker 3: you are helping society get free. Ours is using the
Speaker 3: skill set that we have learned on this journey to
Speaker 3: help other families get free as well.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 6: Not to mention, a lot of other people don't.
Speaker 5: A lot of the people that watch the film don't
Speaker 5: necessarily know that when I walked out of prison, I
Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily free. I still have forty years worth the
Speaker 5: parole time that I have to back up, So every
Speaker 5: month I have to see my parole supervisor. As a
Speaker 5: matter of fact, even be out here to participate in
Speaker 5: this show, I had to be I had to get approval.
Speaker 1: It was all, wait a minute, what I research?
Speaker 2: But we're too are you going to do a point robot?
Speaker 5: But the point in that is that, you know, we
Speaker 5: still are fighting to liberate ourselves from the from the sentence.
Speaker 6: UH served more than twenty one years in prison, but yet.
Speaker 5: Still have forty years to do month to month on supervision.
Speaker 5: So as Fox may mention, you know, these are just
Speaker 5: constant things that we still have to work to undo.
Speaker 1: How did that?
Speaker 2: So we talked about you and your journey and how
Speaker 2: you know, going through it and stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, prison sentence, it's for the family.
Speaker 1: It's not just you know, yes.
Speaker 2: You're doing the time, but you're you know, there are
Speaker 2: other people are doing the time outside. How has that
Speaker 2: affected you to be away from your family for such
Speaker 2: a long time and having you know, your children kind
Speaker 2: of raised, you know, without you being present in the home.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: I saw an article once, an article was in a
Speaker 5: men's health magazine, and it spoke about the amount of
Speaker 5: time that a father in society spends with this child
Speaker 5: engaged with their children and the average was eight hours,
Speaker 5: so between two right per month, so and two visitations
Speaker 5: from the time that visitation starts, from the time you
Speaker 5: know to the time that it.
Speaker 6: Closes, I have at least twice as much time that
Speaker 6: I could spend with my kids.
Speaker 5: So when visitations took place, we spent a lot of
Speaker 5: time engaged, you know, in conversations about things that were
Speaker 5: going on with them, through phone calls, through letters, ultimately
Speaker 5: through emails and those kind of things. We continued to
Speaker 5: stay in contact with.
Speaker 6: Them with one another.
Speaker 5: So I started realizing that I was actually putting in
Speaker 5: far more time with my children than the average person
Speaker 5: that was putting time in with theirs on the street.
Speaker 5: So once my prison sentence came to a close and
Speaker 5: I was reunited with my family, it was just doing
Speaker 5: more of the same thing, but now just having the ability.
Speaker 6: To do it in person.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Do you feel like your relationship with your children
Speaker 1: even stronger because of that?
Speaker 5: Then I tend to think so, But you know, that's
Speaker 5: just me just saying it. But from time to time
Speaker 5: they tell me that I'm doing a really good job.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty cool dad. So I've had an opportunity. I
Speaker 5: think now this is maybe my third father's data is
Speaker 5: coming up. So gifts are usually a good indication as
Speaker 5: to how well you're doing.
Speaker 1: So hint, hint, how to make sure those gifts are
Speaker 1: right right, right right?
Speaker 2: You think it's all, you know, a communication, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean you could have gone down and not you know.
Speaker 1: Had those talks, those visits, those things like that were
Speaker 1: it really matters.
Speaker 2: Were especially you know, men growing up into you know,
Speaker 2: boys and two men and you know, having that kind
Speaker 2: of structure. But it feels like you definitely were present
Speaker 2: as much as you could be or allowed to be.
Speaker 3: So much so that when I would have trouble with
Speaker 3: the teenage boys, I would say, you just wait, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna wait to your father calls. Oh, you never mind.
Speaker 3: When he calls, I'm taking you to visit this weekend,
Speaker 3: you just wait.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: And then to have this gentleman who would never raise
Speaker 3: his voice at his son's at all. It was just
Speaker 3: amazing to see the respect and the regard that had
Speaker 3: been built over the years so that he could still
Speaker 3: serve as an influence in their lives even though he
Speaker 3: wasn't in our home. So you know, we're just really
Speaker 3: really grateful for that. And she shows you that when
Speaker 3: you put your mind to doing something, God helps us
Speaker 3: find the way.
Speaker 1: I believe that for sure. How do you say, what
Speaker 1: methods do you use to stay focused?
Speaker 6: H exercise, UH, we pray, we meditate, UH.
Speaker 5: And most importantly, I think that we continue to keep
Speaker 5: the lines of communication open. So just through communicating what
Speaker 5: you're thinking, what your experience, and what you're feeling at
Speaker 5: a time, I think has a way of making.
Speaker 6: Sure that you know that you satisfied. You know that
Speaker 6: end goal.
Speaker 3: I write it on the window, I write it in
Speaker 3: my journal. At the beginning of the year, we write
Speaker 3: out our intentions for the year and uh. And then
Speaker 3: at the close of that year, we go back and
Speaker 3: we write out what you know, mark off on that
Speaker 3: list where we actually accomplished so we can go back
Speaker 3: through them again. That really works for me, and every
Speaker 3: year Alexis it was at the top of the list,
Speaker 3: restore my family, Restore my family.
Speaker 6: And so she said that we write in journals.
Speaker 5: But truth of the matter is, if you walk into
Speaker 5: our apartment she writes on the windowswhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, if that works for you, then that's what
Speaker 2: works for you. I feel like you know the more
Speaker 2: that you see it presently and it's like you have
Speaker 2: to then you have no other.
Speaker 1: Choice but to live it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm a big about word affirmations. I'm very
Speaker 2: I'm positive thinking. I don't try to as much as
Speaker 2: negative stuff in the world is going on, you try
Speaker 2: to keep your mind as positive as you can be.
Speaker 2: And you know, unfortunately in situations like this too, there's
Speaker 2: no other way but to be positive or we can
Speaker 2: you know, sit down and lose the fight.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 3: I think the other piece that really has helped us
Speaker 3: is comic relief. You know, when you can change it,
Speaker 3: you better laugh about that ship till you can get
Speaker 3: past it, you know. So I think our family is
Speaker 3: some of the biggest jokesters you'll ever want to meet,
Speaker 3: and uh sometimes even tell our own fault. We laugh
Speaker 3: at things that make it that are happening to us
Speaker 3: that you know, have no that are not funny at all.
Speaker 2: But you know, we would find humor in our own
Speaker 2: in our own way, you know, I'm you know, comedy
Speaker 2: is a good thing. Laughing, you know, it's good for
Speaker 2: the soul, right, laughing, it's good for the soul.
Speaker 1: So who all right? Or what? Or who?
Speaker 2: Is one of your biggest inspirations this year? Going through
Speaker 2: all the crazy stuff you've I has already been through.
Speaker 1: We have COVID going on. We had a crazy election
Speaker 1: times all that is what big and this.
Speaker 4: Year, this year, twenty twenty one, yes, that's at the
Speaker 4: top of the year. I think I know mine.
Speaker 3: For me, one of the people that have been a
Speaker 3: big inspiration for me at the beginning of this year
Speaker 3: has been the Game and being able to have connected
Speaker 3: with him through Clubhouse and just watching how he is
Speaker 3: using his platform to open communication to talk about relationships.
Speaker 3: Just some real down to earth shit has just really
Speaker 3: been moving to us, even to the point of how
Speaker 3: much he has enjoyed our movie and what the movie
Speaker 3: has meant to him. So that has that's touched me
Speaker 3: in a special kind of way. Just building that relationship
Speaker 3: out with him and then seeing how you can use
Speaker 3: that relationship to enhance or bless more people.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's any one individual that's done
Speaker 5: it for me, but I would have to say in
Speaker 5: my own patriot tis that I would have to say
Speaker 5: that I'm really proud of the American public.
Speaker 6: Even though so deep, even though our country's are exiting.
Speaker 5: President Trump mentioned about the fact of making America great again.
Speaker 5: But I think that America has shown that it has
Speaker 5: become great again, just and when you look at the protest,
Speaker 5: you know, with people actually taking action and speaking truth
Speaker 5: to power, you know, whatever side of that argument that
Speaker 5: you're on, but being able to look at the worldwide
Speaker 5: protest that has been happening centered around issues that are
Speaker 5: taking place here in America, you know, and just seeing
Speaker 5: people out in the streets, seeing people willing to you know,
Speaker 5: speak truth to power, to bring and hold accountable our leaders.
Speaker 6: And those kind of things.
Speaker 5: So it's really the overall American culture, culture and the
Speaker 5: people themselves that have been most impressing to me. I
Speaker 5: would have to say for the year twenty.
Speaker 4: Twenty, including the great state of Georgia, how we've.
Speaker 5: Been able to even you know, redefine ourselves. You know,
Speaker 5: you look at businesses that are closing, but yet you
Speaker 5: see other ones that are thriving, you know, so you know,
Speaker 5: just people being able to show how creative they are,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 6: In the midst of a pandemic.
Speaker 2: It's definitely been a defining year, you know, the closing
Speaker 2: you know of twenty twenty up and coming, you know,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one we're into now. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's definitely been trying times for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: You just have to I feel like it's we have
Speaker 2: people time to have self reflection and also kind of
Speaker 2: redirect where they were going or where they weren't and
Speaker 2: kind of moving into different directions that you possibly may
Speaker 2: not have never known, you know, from platforms, from either
Speaker 2: clubhouse or all these things where, like you said, connecting
Speaker 2: people on other levels that we didn't have access to
Speaker 2: at one point before, where it's like kind of people
Speaker 2: are kind of coming together.
Speaker 4: In their own and making a difference for sure.
Speaker 1: What would you describe to yourself? What is true love
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 6: True love?
Speaker 5: I think love that works, you know, because it don't
Speaker 5: necessarily have to work right, you know, But I think
Speaker 5: a love that works is definitely an indication of a
Speaker 5: true love And that's going to vary from one person
Speaker 5: to the next, because what you may necessarily need in
Speaker 5: order to feel love or to be in love with
Speaker 5: someone maybe different from one person to the next.
Speaker 6: But I think that love has to work at least
Speaker 6: on your turn.
Speaker 1: Everyone's level. Language dees are all difference right exactly.
Speaker 3: Mine would be just that when you recognize that they're
Speaker 3: more deposits made than there are withdraws. You know, relationships
Speaker 3: are like bank accounts, and so when we continue to
Speaker 3: put you know, doesn't mean that you're not going to
Speaker 3: go to the bank and take some stuff out.
Speaker 4: You know, stuff happens, Plumbing.
Speaker 3: Goes bad, house needs a rough But you know, the
Speaker 3: goal ultimately is to just keep making more deposits into
Speaker 3: the relationship that.
Speaker 4: You make withdraws.
Speaker 3: And for Rob and I that has truly been one
Speaker 3: of those you know, when you look at the long
Speaker 3: arc of thirty four years of being together, you can
Speaker 3: definitely see that if there were not more deposits than withdraws,
Speaker 3: the energy would not be the same.
Speaker 1: I like that. How do you feel like, how how
Speaker 1: inspiring is it to you?
Speaker 2: Or how do you feel like now that the world's
Speaker 2: seen your love story portrayed now with the with the
Speaker 2: documentary I came to talk documentary, I can't talk, Yeah, documentary, Yes,
Speaker 2: got it? How is that for you to say, like,
Speaker 2: show the world your love story? How does that make
Speaker 2: you feel? How does that make you move?
Speaker 5: For me personally, it makes me feel empowered because it's
Speaker 5: not just our story, It's the story of some two
Speaker 5: point three million people that are that are struggling, you know,
Speaker 5: with incarceration as a reality for them all across the country.
Speaker 5: So to know that, you know, our story was a
Speaker 5: story that had been chosen of a you know, kazillion
Speaker 5: other stories, uh is empowering, you know, on an individual
Speaker 5: level as well as on a collective level, because just
Speaker 5: as families are able to see how it is that
Speaker 5: we were able to overcome the hardships of our incrs,
Speaker 5: it shows other families that they too, by putting one
Speaker 5: foot in front of the other doing the next right thing,
Speaker 5: that they too can overcome the hardships of prison as well.
Speaker 3: We initially started this journey wanting to be a demonstration
Speaker 3: of love. We knew initially that this was bigger than us.
Speaker 3: And you know, the other families that we touched during visit,
Speaker 3: the ones that would come and say thank you Fox
Speaker 3: and Rob because we watch you all and we know
Speaker 3: that being a family in the midst of this is
Speaker 3: possible because we watch you all make it. We watch
Speaker 3: how you're raising your six sons and we're following your lead.
Speaker 3: And then to watch families come behind you as the
Speaker 3: greatest compliment you get your freedom, you show them the
Speaker 3: tools that you use and they use them and you're
Speaker 3: watching those families be you reunited as well. Our intention
Speaker 3: has always to be a demonstration of love. And so
Speaker 3: when we hear people say that we see the love,
Speaker 3: we saw that love. I've never seen love like that before.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know this kind of love existed. Then
Speaker 3: we get in our own you know, we lay up
Speaker 3: in the bed and we say, yes, we did it,
Speaker 3: we did it, We did you know, because it wasn't happenstance.
Speaker 3: We were very intentional about showing people that were stronger
Speaker 3: together than we are apart. And I think that that
Speaker 3: is one of the biggest messages to me, is that
Speaker 3: we can always accomplish and achieve more even in our
Speaker 3: country when we are together than we ever can when
Speaker 3: we are separated and divided from one another.
Speaker 2: I definitely think you guys were successful and that message
Speaker 2: that you know, the documentary is very you know, it's
Speaker 2: beautifully laid out. It was inspiring to I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of families that could maybe use to help
Speaker 2: to know what you can and can't do, or what
Speaker 2: the struggles that go through all that, because I feel
Speaker 2: like there's not enough stories where people win. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, and it's always about the latter. It's like,
Speaker 2: yeah's not someone like maybe they did half the time
Speaker 2: and they you know, they couldn't stick it all the
Speaker 2: way out or whatever. That's why, you know, I commend
Speaker 2: you for being so courageous and so to such a
Speaker 2: strong woman to keep all of that on your back
Speaker 2: and raise you know, your sons as much as you
Speaker 2: know as you have and still having your partner be
Speaker 2: all of that is really unique situation, I feel like,
Speaker 2: because I feel like it's like, you know, you could
Speaker 2: have not shown up. You could have not had the
Speaker 2: kids come there, They could have not had these things
Speaker 2: and not had that kind of relationship with their father
Speaker 2: because of whatever reasons. But you chose to keep your
Speaker 2: family together. And I think that's really important message to
Speaker 2: show everybody.
Speaker 4: We all got to fight for what we believe in.
Speaker 3: If you're not standing, with the old saying, if you're
Speaker 3: not standing for something, you'll fall for anything.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to know life without purpose.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to It's not living if you don't
Speaker 3: have something that makes you want to get up in
Speaker 3: the morning. So, whether it's the pursuit of freedom, whether
Speaker 3: it's the pursuit of building your career or building your finances,
Speaker 3: but just having that something or building more love, just
Speaker 3: being able to wake up each day in pursuit of
Speaker 3: something that gives you a little feeling that you would say,
Speaker 3: do a little bit of something that means.
Speaker 4: A whole lot every day.
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Speaker 3: really blowing up. We judge the success of our organization
Speaker 3: by how much time we save people from going to
Speaker 3: prison versus how much time someone spends in prison. And
Speaker 3: since our inception in twenty and nineteen April of twenty
Speaker 3: and nineteen, we've saved almost a thousand years of time
Speaker 3: for families from going behind bars, using things like drug treatment,
Speaker 3: using things like domestic violence therapy for couples instead of
Speaker 3: them going to be incarcerated. So it's just little things
Speaker 3: like that that we're doing that is wake up and
Speaker 3: do a little something every day. That means a whole lot,
Speaker 3: so they can check us out with Pdiumnola dot org
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Speaker 1: What is your clubhouse? Fox and Rob?
Speaker 2: Fox and Rob all day, privatize shar go and support them.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a little bit of a break and
Speaker 2: then we're gonna get to my favorite prior, Truth with
Speaker 2: tex all right, Private Talk, We are back with Fox
Speaker 2: and Rob and it's about to get a little bit
Speaker 2: more hot and steaming in here.
Speaker 1: So Truth with Texas? Are you ready to play my game?
Speaker 4: We are.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're a little nervous.
Speaker 4: You know, we're trying to get liberated.
Speaker 1: I'm here, we liberated. I'm a sexual athlete of sorts.
Speaker 2: You know. I used to be an adult and adult
Speaker 2: industry you know, quite some time, and I feel like
Speaker 2: this is the right place for you to be liberated.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. We receive it.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna play Truth with Texas. We're gonna pick
Speaker 2: your first card and see.
Speaker 1: What you get.
Speaker 4: Lacky are we supposed to say?
Speaker 1: Right ace of what is it?
Speaker 4: A space?
Speaker 2: That's the favorite here at Private Talk because it's a
Speaker 2: naughty question. They're all a little naughty.
Speaker 1: Let's see how naughty.
Speaker 2: We won't get too crazy with you yet, will warm
Speaker 2: you up? Have you ever used a toy during sex?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 3: We've been looking to go and buy some toys. We
Speaker 3: are trying to get there.
Speaker 1: We used to.
Speaker 3: Before prison, have some uh some toys. But yeah, we
Speaker 3: gotta go to the toy store.
Speaker 8: Yes, toys, toys.
Speaker 1: So you've had a three something.
Speaker 8: Toys, we said, alexis toys.
Speaker 1: She's like, stick with the I'm not yet, but now
Speaker 1: we're good. So have you had a threesome?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm like the truth.
Speaker 4: I will say this that as a part of our sexual.
Speaker 3: Therapy, after Rob had been home a little over two years,
Speaker 3: when we started our therapy back in November, we took
Speaker 3: a nice trip out to the desert and went to
Speaker 3: this quaint little spot called a nude spat and spent
Speaker 3: the weekend and it was quite interesting.
Speaker 1: Where is this nude spot in California? Yeah, it's in California, California.
Speaker 4: What's the name of it.
Speaker 1: I haven't even been. I might have to go to
Speaker 1: this new mountains mountains mountain.
Speaker 2: So what happens at sea Mountains day Mountains.
Speaker 1: Y'all both said that, like so uniformly. It was like,
Speaker 1: is that what they tell you when you check in
Speaker 1: and check out?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So what is your weirdest sexual experience?
Speaker 6: Mm hmm sea mountain.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go look up.
Speaker 4: You have to go look up sea mountaines.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna go the next one. All right, let's
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 3: You're doing all the pulling and answering all the wrong questions,
Speaker 3: Ace of hearts.
Speaker 1: Oh that's romantic.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what is your ideal ideal four play scenario?
Speaker 3: My ideal for play scenario, yes, hm hmmm, that we
Speaker 3: would be in the park, uh, on a nice summer
Speaker 3: day and we would have the fruit basket out and
Speaker 3: some little trinkets and something to drink and to smoke
Speaker 3: and yeah, and then mister would come on over and
Speaker 3: remind me about how he wants to massage every part
Speaker 3: of my body and the great outdoors. We probably start there,
Speaker 3: and you know, I think the rest of that would
Speaker 3: kind of just take its course after that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice park and fruit.
Speaker 1: And I think I saw porn that I may or
Speaker 1: may not have been in it.
Speaker 5: And for you, I think that it would start with
Speaker 5: a lot of unexpected that teasing that happens.
Speaker 1: You need to build up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like subtleties, but they build up over the course
Speaker 5: of time and just when I guess you get to
Speaker 5: that point that you can't take it anymore.
Speaker 6: And wherever you are, it's.
Speaker 2: Like a fifty First States type thing where it's like
Speaker 2: you tie your hands, you get like a feather and
Speaker 2: you just like can't touch those parts, but you like
Speaker 2: want to touch everything but that part.
Speaker 1: And then you touch it and it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's it. Do you have an Do you have a
Speaker 1: sex playlist?
Speaker 3: No, we hadn't put that together yet either. We've been
Speaker 3: saying we're going to do us for a music list.
Speaker 3: We've just been trying to survive and get our lives
Speaker 3: back on track. So yeah, we got a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff to do. We probably should have bought our notepaid
Speaker 3: so that we could take notes on private talk about
Speaker 3: give me my number, I'll get you, I'll give you
Speaker 3: some dope.
Speaker 1: We'd appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Guely, I will help you out anything you want to know.
Speaker 1: Miss Texas will tell you I'm here. I'm here to
Speaker 1: help you.
Speaker 2: We need it because I feel like it's all about education.
Speaker 2: It's about you know, communication, It's like, you know, you
Speaker 2: guys are really you know, learning each other in a
Speaker 2: sense and also relearning what you what you like as
Speaker 2: a person, you know what I mean as a sexual person.
Speaker 1: The older I've gotten.
Speaker 2: What I loved about porn for myself was it made
Speaker 2: me experience things that I maybe not wouldn't have and
Speaker 2: in a safe environment. And it also unlocked things about
Speaker 2: me that I was like, Ooh, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't even know. I like that.
Speaker 2: That's what you know, It's a beautiful thing. And it's
Speaker 2: like for me, I think sex is a beautiful things.
Speaker 2: It's art how you express yourself. It's how you you know,
Speaker 2: you form your relationships with each other and how you
Speaker 2: get a deeper bond with each other.
Speaker 1: So I like it. I'll send you some songs girl.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right, you got a new
Speaker 3: best friend, Alexis whether you.
Speaker 1: Know it's not all right? Some diamonds. It's a spicy question,
Speaker 1: but we're all a little spicy here.
Speaker 6: So what.
Speaker 1: Mmmmmm what do you think of when you pleasure yourself?
Speaker 4: What do I think of when you had a lot
Speaker 4: of time, you know, Rob was.
Speaker 1: Gone, what did you you know when you were watching
Speaker 1: my movies, what were you thinking of?
Speaker 3: I was thinking probably like, oh my god, that must
Speaker 3: be really nice. The way she's looking hard. That has
Speaker 3: to feel exceptionally No, I like group six porn, the
Speaker 3: threesome points, I think. And then the romantic poem is
Speaker 3: what it's called when they you know, just not your
Speaker 3: porn hub search romantic ya. No, Rob termed me on
Speaker 3: the x x X video, so that you know, I
Speaker 3: kind of found some new stuff over there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I like mine romantic and laid out the massage piece.
Speaker 3: So it was my spice and I answered that question
Speaker 3: you did. What about you spicy? What do you think
Speaker 3: about you pleasure yourself?
Speaker 1: You heard about you pleasure yourself?
Speaker 5: It varies, I mean it varies, I guess on you know,
Speaker 5: in the mood end, whether or not you got a
Speaker 5: long time to do it, or whether or not you
Speaker 5: got a short.
Speaker 6: Period of time to do it.
Speaker 2: So, but are you like a visual person? You obviously
Speaker 2: are watching X videos, so it's like, or do you
Speaker 2: like is it more mental?
Speaker 6: I think it's more mental.
Speaker 5: You know, you think about maybe past experiences and or
Speaker 5: sometimes I think about desired experiences, and it may be
Speaker 5: a desired experience with someone that I may not have
Speaker 5: any plans to pursue anything like.
Speaker 1: That, like a celebrity like list.
Speaker 5: It just be somebody I know, you know, but it
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily have to be a celebrity type or whatever.
Speaker 5: But it just varies, at least for me, from one
Speaker 5: experience to the next. And god knows, when you're in
Speaker 5: prison with twenty one years, you got a lot of
Speaker 5: those kind of moments, so it, you know, you have
Speaker 5: to spice it up.
Speaker 6: A little bit.
Speaker 2: What's your pornhub search myn romantic romantic? I didn't even
Speaker 2: know that that's a category. Maybe I'm not doing romantic
Speaker 2: things on the fucking.
Speaker 1: On my videos enough. To me, it just seems it
Speaker 1: seems more realistic.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it seems more realistic. It seems more in
Speaker 5: not necessarily engaging per se, but it seems more natural
Speaker 5: and the people that are engaged seem like they have
Speaker 5: some level of care for the person that they're doing
Speaker 5: it with, whereas in some of those, you know, some videos.
Speaker 1: That I just have to watch this because I got
Speaker 1: to see if they're faking or not, because I can.
Speaker 7: Tell, I can tell if they fake in it, like
Speaker 7: they's just fake good well as far as faking as
Speaker 7: the intimacy goes, not as far as like because yeah,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean imporn and unless it's just
Speaker 7: like a home video and then it's like I don't know,
Speaker 7: like not that I don't know the person, but it's
Speaker 7: like a small sect selection of performers.
Speaker 2: So say there's like twenty people and I go to
Speaker 2: set that day, I may not know that that was
Speaker 2: gonna work that with that guy into the night before.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean I.
Speaker 2: Actually have a connection, but I have Like again, I'm
Speaker 2: a sexual athlete, so I'm gonna have a connection in that.
Speaker 5: Moment, right, And I think that's what it is for me.
Speaker 5: Romantic point, it's more sensual, Okay, it's probably the.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, erotic sounds like you need to go get
Speaker 2: like some erotic oils for your girl. You need to
Speaker 2: give her, put it like a bath, some candles, some
Speaker 2: flowers in there, and give her a nice massage and
Speaker 2: then it'll go down. Because the more sensual you are,
Speaker 2: it seems like you guys are very you know about energies,
Speaker 2: about like connecting and like kind of you know, you
Speaker 2: were learning each other's bodies again, even though that you
Speaker 2: know each other's bodies, but intimately it's a little bit different.
Speaker 1: It's like, what can you unlock next?
Speaker 4: Rob?
Speaker 1: Yes, she wants to know.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, we got the club question, which is
Speaker 2: a kinky question.
Speaker 1: What or if any, do you have any fetishes?
Speaker 2: You said that you were thinking about things that you
Speaker 2: may not have never done before or wanted to unlock.
Speaker 1: What are those things?
Speaker 2: Rob, I'll even give you this me too sometimes, but.
Speaker 5: I think it would probably be that's something that happens
Speaker 5: that you don't necessarily.
Speaker 1: Know that you would like like anal, like like orgies,
Speaker 1: like more like an orgy.
Speaker 6: Okay, type of experience.
Speaker 2: I guess would you care if there was more like
Speaker 2: uh topic guys or so if it was two guys,
Speaker 2: three girls, We're okay with that exactly.
Speaker 1: Sharing is caring.
Speaker 6: Sharing is caring.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't even know about this.
Speaker 3: Oh my look, Alexis bitch is gonna come in roll
Speaker 3: and say that needs to be the next phase of
Speaker 3: your work. You have to do a sexual therapy counseling course,
Speaker 3: and then Rob and I are gonna sign up.
Speaker 4: I like that, and then you're going to help us.
Speaker 4: You know, as we are.
Speaker 2: Grollowing, I'll unlock these little boxes furs that you don't
Speaker 2: know that are happening. You know, I used to want
Speaker 2: to be, you know, a therapist at one point in
Speaker 2: my life, but I just felt like it was way
Speaker 2: too much. Well I didn't really want to, but I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, with my knowledge of sex and
Speaker 2: my knowledge with private talk here, I think it's a
Speaker 2: perfect way to and like, you know, help people unleash
Speaker 2: things that you may not know because it's like, unless
Speaker 2: you get asked these questions, do you know that you
Speaker 2: even liked them?
Speaker 1: Or I'm like, oh, you may leave here and be
Speaker 1: like why did she ask me that? Or be like
Speaker 1: why did she ask me that? Why have I thought
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What kind of those things? So I got you.
Speaker 5: There are good questions because they make you think about things.
Speaker 5: Like you said that, you haven't necessarily thought about it
Speaker 5: quite some time.
Speaker 1: Have you ever caught each other masturbating?
Speaker 6: Of course I kiss Fox all the time. You know,
Speaker 6: I wake up in the middle of the night and you.
Speaker 1: Know, she's like, you're sleep creeping on Foxes. No, no, no.
Speaker 3: When Rob masturbates, it's like you don't even know he's
Speaker 3: masturbated because he's like super quiet with it.
Speaker 4: Like used to twenty one years right, Like we're taking
Speaker 4: to masturbate. I'm like, so then I'm like I'll offend it.
Speaker 4: Like damn, you could have hailed it for me. What happened.
Speaker 1: See that's what's wrong with women. But I would have
Speaker 1: joined you if you would have asked me. And then
Speaker 1: you're like, I just wanted to do it alone. I
Speaker 1: needed to get it really quickly. I didn't need you
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: Like rob you south And I was like, oh okay,
Speaker 4: all right, I get it all right. You don't work
Speaker 4: that much.
Speaker 1: I got it right me either, lazy.
Speaker 4: Not catching me masturbating either. I tell you I'm about
Speaker 4: to masturbate if you awake right.
Speaker 5: But that's that's a good one though, because when you
Speaker 5: master when I masturbate, then I feel like I'm cheating,
Speaker 5: you know, because she wakes up. And then it's like
Speaker 5: after she's found out, as give.
Speaker 1: You an adrenaline because you're like, I can find I'm
Speaker 1: hoping you're acting like you're asleep and you're like, no, looking.
Speaker 3: I sleep, you know, so hard. He sleeps like a feather.
Speaker 3: I move He's like, okay, like, go to sleep.
Speaker 4: I don't need to check it every time I move
Speaker 4: in the bed.
Speaker 6: Of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we love the bodily contact.
Speaker 3: You know, we waited forever, you know, to be back together,
Speaker 3: and so being this rolled when we go to bed
Speaker 3: is definitely a mustard.
Speaker 2: And I feel like you sleep better that way too,
Speaker 2: especially when you're with somebody that you know you care like.
Speaker 2: It's like like it's like a bonding when you're not
Speaker 2: really even awake, but you're like your body is cind
Speaker 2: you know. I'm like a snuggle person where I'm like
Speaker 2: attached to somebody and if they, like, if they don't
Speaker 2: want to be, like.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna be attached. It's either big spoon or
Speaker 1: little somebody a big spoon.
Speaker 3: Look until you get to be fifty, Alex, just talk
Speaker 3: to me about the spooning when you get to be
Speaker 3: fifty and the menopause.
Speaker 4: Cake see and you like, oh, I was gonna spoon,
Speaker 4: but I'm hot, get you.
Speaker 2: I'm already lot, and so me like my problem is
Speaker 2: like I'll sweat on some I'm like, oh sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: like if you don't like me, even.
Speaker 1: I just don't stay I don't know, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sweat on you. I don't know, I haven't We're gonna
Speaker 1: do this together and then most times we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care until they care then and is never known.
Speaker 1: Let's see what I feel like. I have to ask
Speaker 1: you one more question before I let you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what does Miss Texas have for you? What's the craziest
Speaker 1: place you've ever had sex?
Speaker 4: Sea Mountain?
Speaker 2: Besides your whole scenario about the park thing. Are you
Speaker 2: like one of those exhibitions type people where you like
Speaker 2: to be outdoor or like caught because I did watch
Speaker 2: the documentary and it seemed like you were having sex
Speaker 2: in the car and someone was filming it kind of.
Speaker 1: But I was like, she's looking too.
Speaker 2: Glowing over there, and she's looking like she ain't like
Speaker 2: at anybody else but him.
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't blame you after that long But I mean,
Speaker 3: I think you know, with that particular moment, it was
Speaker 3: more so about just reconnecting as soon as we could.
Speaker 3: And we had been apart so long that I didn't
Speaker 3: care if Jesus was around. I was gonna say thank
Speaker 3: you God for this moment with my man.
Speaker 4: But you know, for me, it was.
Speaker 3: I think Sea Mountain would be the experience that I
Speaker 3: could say that It's just been one of the most
Speaker 3: unique that we have had that I have had. But
Speaker 3: we do like spontaneous things and I just look for them.
Speaker 3: Glad you asked that question. I look forward to us
Speaker 3: being able to get back there.
Speaker 4: We used to be a really more you know, just
Speaker 4: free sexually.
Speaker 2: I think to being, you know, at such a young
Speaker 2: age when you guys were you know, met each other
Speaker 2: and we're involved in this relationship, we have way less
Speaker 2: cares then fucking my kids are oh this or like something,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's always something to deter
Speaker 2: you a little bit. But it's like, you know, I
Speaker 2: think it's important to stay in that bond of you know,
Speaker 2: a relationship or sexual relationship where you can still be
Speaker 2: free spirited because that's when you I feel like it
Speaker 2: becomes better.
Speaker 4: It's like it's just more, just better, yes, just mo better.
Speaker 1: So do you have any advice for private talk before
Speaker 1: we let you go?
Speaker 3: I just think more of what you're doing is being
Speaker 3: able to get free at the ultimate goal when we
Speaker 3: talk about in our country freedom, there is nothing more
Speaker 3: liberating than being free in yourself to experience your life sexually.
Speaker 3: We are sexual beings. And while we hide behind what
Speaker 3: we think sex is a dirty thing, because that's what
Speaker 3: we've been taught by different sex, different religions. Sex was
Speaker 3: a gift from God, and I think that we all
Speaker 3: should be using it a little bit more. And you know,
Speaker 3: when we call on Private Talk to give us some
Speaker 3: coaching lessons, don't play.
Speaker 4: I got you.
Speaker 1: I don't play with it. I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you guys want to ask me
Speaker 2: before we leave? Since you know I'm going to be
Speaker 2: your sex coach. I'm gonna help you unlock these boxes?
Speaker 6: When's the first lesson?
Speaker 2: I don't check my schedule, but you know I'm always
Speaker 2: a phone caller, a text away.
Speaker 4: We're gonna hold you to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 8: I can't.
Speaker 3: It's so much that I am unfamiliar with at this point.
Speaker 3: You know, when you take yourself off the grid for
Speaker 3: so long. You know, like I said, you were talking
Speaker 3: about toys do we have and it's like, no, We've
Speaker 3: been thinking about buying some more, but we just hadn't
Speaker 3: even gotten to go.
Speaker 1: To what do you You know, it's a whole it's
Speaker 1: a whole thing.
Speaker 4: It's a thing. It's like getting you an important thing.
Speaker 5: It's getting your freedoms back again, you know, because like
Speaker 5: Fox may mentioned, after you've been sexually suppressed for as
Speaker 5: long as we have, you know, it takes a lot
Speaker 5: of sex is It takes a lot of getting used
Speaker 5: to or to refamiliarize yourself with what works and you
Speaker 5: know what doesn't work. So just even being invited on
Speaker 5: the show today.
Speaker 4: Was was liberating reading Yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: We've been going through our own therapy. But you know,
Speaker 5: of course that's to address other concerns. But even though,
Speaker 5: as you may mention, you don't necessarily have a degree
Speaker 5: you know, in the area, but you have enough life
Speaker 5: experience that that makes makes for a good coach.
Speaker 6: Uh. So we're open and excited about the prospects of
Speaker 6: what it is that, yes.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: So the next time we come back on this show,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have all kinds of answers to those questions.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some homework for the next time
Speaker 1: on that show.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your honesty, I appreciate you telling it,
Speaker 2: coming on and telling so your story.
Speaker 1: And I again, I like love The docu Menory was
Speaker 1: very beautiful. You're a strong woman.
Speaker 2: I appreciate everything that you've done for everybody, kind of
Speaker 2: opening up those doors to let people know that they're
Speaker 2: not alone, that there's there's you're not alone, that there's
Speaker 2: you know, other families that are going through the same things,
Speaker 2: and that it can still be done and should never
Speaker 2: give up.