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Speaker 2: I e The Rush Hour with James Golden, entertaining and
Speaker 2: informative on the Red Apple podcast Network. Right before the
Speaker 2: show went on, some news happened, sad news. I literally said,
Speaker 2: oh no when I saw the headline, A giant has
Speaker 2: passed away. You music lover sly Stone has passed away.
Speaker 2: I immediately with upon seeing the news, reached out to
Speaker 2: my dear, dear friend and fellow music lover Curtis Sliwa, Curtis,
Speaker 2: haven't talked to you in a while. Know you're busy
Speaker 2: running for mayor of New York. Curtis, how are you
Speaker 2: not good?
Speaker 3: Hearing the music of the passing of this musical legend.
Speaker 3: Sly Stone has made me canceled my evening schedule for campaigning.
Speaker 3: I will be sitting shiver the next eight days, although
Speaker 3: obviously the campaign goes on. But you and I have
Speaker 3: always battled over this. I said, sly In the Family
Speaker 3: Stone the greatest group of all time in the gendre
Speaker 3: that you said, oh no, no, no, no, no you you.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it when I would hear you say
Speaker 3: oh no. Your favorite more than Slide in the Family
Speaker 3: Stone was who say it again? James Golden say it again?
Speaker 2: Look here, Curtis. I've been listening to lie since I
Speaker 2: was a kid. There's nobody that can dispute the chat.
Speaker 2: Slide and the Family Stone changed the game in music.
Speaker 2: If it were not for sli and the Family Stone,
Speaker 2: for all of them, for Larry Graham on bass, for
Speaker 2: the entire group, music as we know it would not
Speaker 2: be what it is. He changed everything. I remember standing up,
Speaker 2: and not just the music. His lyrics were incredible. I
Speaker 2: remember standing up and as part of a speech in
Speaker 2: junior high school reading a sly Stone song and it
Speaker 2: was influenced everything. He's just one of the most incredible
Speaker 2: musicians that we have seen in our lifetime, and he
Speaker 2: changed everything. And not only changed, it was cultural. His
Speaker 2: impact was so deep culturally that it was it's it's
Speaker 2: hard to put it into words.
Speaker 3: Let me just say, James, you mentioned one person who
Speaker 3: is my favorite other than Sly in the group, which
Speaker 3: was Cynthia Robinson. Play that trumpet, Cynthia, she would see
Speaker 3: you played that trumpet so well. That group was coordinated.
Speaker 3: I saw them on the Edge Sullivan Show in nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty eight and I said, oh my god, if I
Speaker 3: die tomorrow and go to heaven, I have seen greatness
Speaker 3: and performance. That's why I could never understand how you
Speaker 3: would constantly tell me, oh, earth Wind and Fire, oh
Speaker 3: better better than Sly and the Family Stone.
Speaker 2: I never said the words better, I said, I look, look,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to even get into
Speaker 2: a competition because Sly was in the class by himself,
Speaker 2: and I'm not making it about competition there. I just
Speaker 2: want to honor Sly and just for what he did.
Speaker 2: The albums that he did revolutionary, and Earthwind was revolution
Speaker 2: in their own way too, but all of them took
Speaker 2: the mantle up from Sly. So I wanted to just
Speaker 2: have you on to say a few words about it.
Speaker 2: And while I have you on me, let.
Speaker 3: Me just say one thing. Games it's no appropriate to
Speaker 3: your opening about the LA riots. I spent a lot
Speaker 3: of time down where they were looting at Broadway and
Speaker 3: six with the La Guardian Angels years ago. And remember
Speaker 3: he had that album as a Riot.
Speaker 2: Going on, one of his best albums ever.
Speaker 3: You think they're gonna be playing that tonight when they
Speaker 3: take to the streets again to take on the National Guard,
Speaker 3: the California Highway Patrol, the LAPB, and ice.
Speaker 2: Curtis, you've been on those streets. I've been. I haven't
Speaker 2: been to La in a few years, but you've been
Speaker 2: on those streets. What we saw this weekend, Number one,
Speaker 2: what do you think about the response from the officials,
Speaker 2: Karen Bath, Let's bear with me, Curtis. Let's just listen
Speaker 2: to this cut to Carlos. This is Karen Bass earlier
Speaker 2: today on the news, the Mayor of Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: Now the Los Angeles Mayor, Karen Bass, Hi mayor, thank
Speaker 4: you so much for joining us, Hi hi so in
Speaker 4: your police force. I know how busy you are preparing
Speaker 4: for the hours ahead.
Speaker 2: What are you expecting on that front.
Speaker 5: Well, I just have to say that if you dial
Speaker 5: back time and go to Friday, if immigration raids had
Speaker 5: not happened here, we would not have the disorder that
Speaker 5: went on last night. I will tell you that it
Speaker 5: is peaceful now, but we do not know where and
Speaker 5: when the next raids will be. That is the concern
Speaker 5: because people in the city have a rapid resteponse network.
Speaker 5: If they see ICE, they go out and they protest,
Speaker 5: and so it's just a recipe for pandemonium that is
Speaker 5: completely unnecessary. Nothing was happening here. Los Angeles was peaceful
Speaker 5: before Friday. When we find out when and where the
Speaker 5: other raids are going to happen, that will determine how
Speaker 5: the police respond.
Speaker 2: So it is ICE's fault. It's the fault of ICE.
Speaker 2: It is the fault of those people tasked with enforcing
Speaker 2: the law that there are problems in Los Angeles. It
Speaker 2: is the fault of brave men and women who have
Speaker 2: been sent out on a task to enforce American law.
Speaker 2: And Californians like Mayor Karen Bass now say they are
Speaker 2: the ones. LA was peaceful before those before the ICE
Speaker 2: agents showed up. What's your response to that?
Speaker 3: Mister Sleewill, what well do you mean peaceful ramparts comped
Speaker 3: in all these areas where gang bag is rules supreme.
Speaker 3: It's never peaceful in most areas of LA because the
Speaker 3: gang's rule. The LAPD proved that their leadership abandoned this city.
Speaker 3: When Ice needed back up, they had to wait two hours,
Speaker 3: two hours to California Highway Patrol. They came in, and
Speaker 3: then you have the National Guard. They're there. They're doing
Speaker 3: the job that the LAPD should have been doing from
Speaker 3: day one, and they're fill in the gaps. And when
Speaker 3: you saw that video, you saw how that crowd took
Speaker 3: advantage of the LAPD, which was not as intensively enforcing
Speaker 3: the law as they could have. In fact, the police
Speaker 3: commissioner admitted that they could not handle the situation. So
Speaker 3: if you can't handle the situation, move over. Let the
Speaker 3: California Highway Patrol handle it, and let ICE handle it.
Speaker 3: In addition with the National Guard that Donald Trump is
Speaker 3: brought in to tame the situation down.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this scene, Curtis, I'm seeing things that
Speaker 2: I don't believe. I'm watching people throw literally huge chunks
Speaker 2: of concrete and boulder sized rocks down on police who
Speaker 2: are cowering underneath an overpass, and instead of they finally
Speaker 2: deployed out and shot some tear gas up and then
Speaker 2: beat a hasty retreat, left their vehicles there where they
Speaker 2: were staged. On. One half of the highway is completely
Speaker 2: closed because the protesters shut it down and they were
Speaker 2: allowed to shut it down. And then on the other
Speaker 2: half you've got moving traffic while up ahead people are
Speaker 2: throwing scooters, rocks, concrete blocks, everything down on the heads
Speaker 2: of these police. And this just goes on and on
Speaker 2: and on, and this woman sits up and dares says
Speaker 2: to the world that ice is the problem. If the
Speaker 2: ice had never started raising, Oh, we wouldn't have a
Speaker 2: problem here. Not to mention setting fired vehicles, not to
Speaker 2: mention everything else that was going on. Oh, and the
Speaker 2: news reporting on that cut five Carlos. Here's seven News.
Speaker 2: It's an ABC station out there on as you watch
Speaker 2: these vehicles being lit up, toxic fumes viewing through the air,
Speaker 2: some celebration of the Green New Deal, that is, and
Speaker 2: this is what we get from news.
Speaker 4: Large group of people. It could turn very volatile if
Speaker 4: you move law enforcement in there in the wrong way
Speaker 4: and turn what is just a bunch of people having
Speaker 4: fun watching carsburn into a massive confrontation and altercation between
Speaker 4: officers and demonstrators.
Speaker 3: I believe that, Give James, We've seen this before. We
Speaker 3: saw that in New York City during the summer of
Speaker 3: George Floyd, where Comrade de Blasio, the mayor, gave the
Speaker 3: orders for the police to stand down. We've seen that
Speaker 3: in other major American cities, and we've seen that in
Speaker 3: La many times where the cops, the LAPD has been
Speaker 3: told to stand out. You know, the orders had to
Speaker 3: come from Bass to the police commissioner, who serves at
Speaker 3: her privilege, so he wasn't going to do anything to
Speaker 3: defy the mayor, and she told the LAPD to stand down,
Speaker 3: and the crowd could sent that. You notice how the
Speaker 3: crowd just launched an all out attack on LAPD. I'm
Speaker 3: sure if LAPD could do what they were trained to do,
Speaker 3: they would have fought back and that crowd would have
Speaker 3: been repulsed. But once the crowd sensed that the LAPD
Speaker 3: was going to retreat and that they had no backup
Speaker 3: yet from California Highway Patrol or from ICE or from
Speaker 3: the National Guard that was arriving then it was a
Speaker 3: field day on the LAPD and Karen Vass and the
Speaker 3: Police commissioner should be ashamed of themselves. They forced their
Speaker 3: police department of surrender and news them. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: he's going to try to ride his way to the
Speaker 3: White House on an all migrant ticket. That is, whatever
Speaker 3: the migrants want, we do for them. For American citizens,
Speaker 3: just pay your taxes. We'll take care of the migrants
Speaker 3: at your expense, and their rights supersede your rights America.
Speaker 2: Curtis, look, I want to thank you for joining us,
Speaker 2: winning you resuming. You said you're going to suspend a
Speaker 2: campaign tonight in honor of Fly and God bless you
Speaker 2: Curtis for that. And but you got to catch this
Speaker 2: up on your campaign for mayor, and you got to
Speaker 2: come back and let's talk more about this LA stuff
Speaker 2: and what's going on in LA and Massachusetts and New
Speaker 2: York as finally someone is addressing illegal immigration and demanding
Speaker 2: that the law of the United States be followed.
Speaker 3: And in honor of sly Stone, I'm going to rename
Speaker 3: my campaign the Mayor for everyday people.
Speaker 2: Boom love it. Curtis, Thank you for joining us. My
Speaker 2: pleasure