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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here

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Speaker 2: Here's your host, Jesse Sovier and Victor Neuno.

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Hockey Live once again. Jesse Severe, Victor der Nuno.

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Speaker 4: Victor, are you ready?

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Speaker 3: Good cause you're going? Come on, man? What do you

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have to say today?

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to go, man, I'm ready to go. Thanks

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for that. Yeah, good to be here talking some more

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fantasy hockey. How are you doing, my friend.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good, and I'm doing good. Ready to talk

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a few more prospects. Yes, Sarah, we've got hockey back.

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I think I'm back fully in the swing. See the

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problem with having those are people sick of me whining

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about not setting my lineups for a couple of weeks

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Because most people, a lot of our fantasy hockey people

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are like, they can decompress for the entire baseball season,

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but I can't. So being without lineups to set for

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more than two days, I get out of the habit.

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I start forgetting the set lineups properly, and then the

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NHL starts throwing weekday games at one in the afternoon. Victor, Yeah,

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once you call me down, tell me to grow up

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a little bit and just deal with these things.

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Speaker 2: I think it just shows your level of obsession, which

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is why we're here talking fantasy hockey. No, I think

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it's good. It was. I enjoyed the break, actually tuning

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out for a bit and just enjoying the Olympics. But

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I did definitely forget the roster churn and just all

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the intricacies of setting our lineups and free agency. I

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almost forgot how to do it. Actually, I was like, wait,

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where do I go? How many starters in this league? Yeah,

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I could definitely understand.

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Speaker 3: I always compare it to the moment in that cinematic

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classic The Phantom Menace Star Wars The Phantom Menace, which

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everybody remembers and loves at the end, where Qui gon

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Jin is fire against the Darth Maul and they've got

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these little force fields and that slam up between them

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right in the middle of the fight, and they're crawling

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around and looking at each other too. That's the way

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I feel when the playoffs for our fantasy leagues lock

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up for two weeks and we just left there staring

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at each other. Absolutely nothing happening. But yeah, if people, Victor,

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I don't know, man. I think it's time to get

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to the content. Time to talk a little bit of

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fantasy prospect stuff, because you've been writing, as you always are,

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like a madman. So right after this we're gonna come back.

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We're gonna talk Dynasty Stockwatch Dynasty Stockwatch Gee's edition, Big

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D Double D. Today between Dallas and Detroit, we're gonna

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talk about some of the top prospects that you need

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to pay attention to for fantasy hockey between these two teams,

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and in these cases, I think it may be stretched.

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Mine is not necessarily never having made an NHL debut.

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Some of the guys we're going to talk talk about

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today are in the NHL, but there's still by some

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standards prospects because they haven't played that many games in

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the NHL. And sometimes that's exactly when we need to

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pay attention and figure out is this a guy who

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is is this the lid, is this the ceiling, or

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what exactly do we have here? Victor? Before I get started,

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do you have any sort of general comment on this

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Detroit system that I believe we're going to cover first,

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here is Detroit a system that you enjoyed covering? Or

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these guys rough or what? Do you think.

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Speaker 2: That's definitely more exciting than the Dallas system. I will

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say we do the next one, but no, I think

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that they have some really interesting players, in particular the goalies,

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which we'll get to later. It's always interesting how they

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where their sort of strengths or weaknesses or the different

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teams are. I think that's always interesting. And then do

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they have anyone really exciting or worthwhile they have some

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guys that you're a lot of the guys that we

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were most excited about recently I think have graduated from

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the new phrase system. So it's a little bit less

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less top end the little of the pack in my rankings.

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due to their high end goalies, which they which we'll

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be talking about, and the other the fours are to

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somewhat interesting. So yeah, but the Dallas system, which we'll

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talk about later, they have had some really exciting prospects

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and now they're not quite as exciting. So it's always

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cyclical with these things, and it is important to keep

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in mind how high end the whole team ranks and

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the whole system, because each one of those members inside

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the system has their value shifted based on that, and

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so you really have to take that into account. But

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you also can't overvalue guys just because it's a weak system.

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and then we inflate the value of certain prospects. I

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keep thinking about Samuel Poolan in Pittsburgh, and he never

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really worked out the way some people thought he would,

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but he was the shining star of that system and

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it just never was gonna happen, probably, but because Pittsburgh

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has such an awful system, he was the chosen one,

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and so I think you gotta be careful to avoid that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look out how Dubas actually is turning that around

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in weird ways, although partly not from the drafting yet

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so much as from the guys who's been to Bilberg.

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I'll been kindled like he he was never in the system.

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the Detroit episode. Like you said, the goalies will be big.

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But in true fixed pre faction fashion, Victor, we got

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to start with the entree in the plot before we

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can get to the dessert. So we're gonna start with

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Emmett Finnie, who is playing now. Not quite mister irrelevant

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in the twenty twenty three draft, but Finnie has played

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more games of all the players drafted after the first

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round in the twenty twenty three draft, and he was

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a seventh round pick. He's been quicker to develop on

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defense than offense. His defense actually is above average at

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this point. His offense, Okay, I don't love that he's

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moved off the Dylan Lark and Lucas Raymond line that

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he spent the majority of his season on. Now he's

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with some GT Confer and Mason Appleton action lately. But

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the important thing here is the player. I'm not going

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to complain about the deployment. That's not where we're here

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to discuss so much. The former kam Loose Blazer captain

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m Finney lays the wood to his opponents with one

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point five hits per game in fifteen twenty four average

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time on ice and really has stepped in to stabilize

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things or played an unexpected part for this Detroit Red

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Wings team. In the Mason Black NHL Ranking Pole, we

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put Finny up against the Jet Luchenko, the a recent

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first round pick of the Philadelphia Flyers, and it's Finny

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winning this one fifty seven to forty three. The hope

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of what a first round pick could be or the

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quick emergence of what could be a high floor guide

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that being Luchenko in Finny. Looks like Finny has impressed

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people enough to surpass the twenty twenty four mid first

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round pick. What do you think, Victor, Finni or Luchenko.

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Speaker 2: The fact that we're even having this conversation is such

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a tip of the hat to em at Finnie. The reality,

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as you mentioned, where these guys were drafted, there's zero

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chance you would have thought we'd be having this conversation,

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but we are, and I think it's really interesting and

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valid if Finny, as we're recording this, just at the game,

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Prior scored a beautiful goal on a drive to the net.

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He created the whole play passing situation and ended up

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finishing it off. He's definitely got some skill. We've seen

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him move all up and down the lineup and I

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think he touched on that. And obviously playing with Larkin

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and Raymond at the beginning of the season was the

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most exciting. He's still seeing some time with those guys

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here and there, but mostly he's been that middle to

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bottom six, which is what I thought would happen at

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the beginning. It didn't seem like he was quite you know,

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there to actually hold that deployment all season. You never know.

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I think that looking at the hockey prospecting between these two,

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Finney was never really someone who looked like he was

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going to be great in junior. He was always just

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a really solid junior player, and his star potential in

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that model capped out at one percent, even though his

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NHL or probability was fairly high. Luchenko is such an

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interesting development case because he's one of those that maybe

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you could argue was in the NHL too soon. He

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was drafted in twenty four, had a great season there

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for GWELF, and then jumped right into the NHL, played

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four games, and then went to the HL for a bid,

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played some OHL games, and he was just barely over

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point per game for GWELF that season as the captain,

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so it's underwhelming. He also has been underwhelming at the

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U twenty World Junior Championships for Canada and then this

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season the same thing happened with starting in the NHL,

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then went back to GWELF and then he got traded

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to Branford, and Branford is this absolutely loaded OHL team

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and he's just been a guy there. He's actually under

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a point per game for Branford, which is crazy because

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they score a lot, but he's just asked to be more.

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They're spreading the offense and the responsibilities around, and he

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is a good defensive player, so his star potential has

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jumped all around. He's currently at fourteen percent. But he

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looks like he's going to be more similar to Emmy

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than em Infinny than you might have thought. It's interesting

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looking at the nhl A involving hockey charts, they're actually similar.

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Both of them are average offensively, not great or sorry,

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average defensively, not great offensively, and just that average middle

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to bottom six, which is wild to think about. You

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even look at Je Luchenko's Fantasy Hockey Life skater card

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and he looks great in transition, but some of his

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other numbers, like his not expected goals and course, not

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where you would think they would be for a guy

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who's been playing, who's played nearly a dozen professional games

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or more than that actually count the AHL Games, so

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it's interesting. I think he might end up being more

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of just a guy than we thought. But I think

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the question of who I would rather take, I would

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still bet on Luchenko for more upside here, even though

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I see the poll and Finny is winning there. Part

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of it might come down to the peripheral contribution, which

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Finny is pretty great at a hit and half per game.

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He's got half a block and he doesn't shoot that much.

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But Luchenko, actually you'd think he might have more, but

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he doesn't really shoot or block that much either. He

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does hit almost as much as Finny, probably similar but

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a little less. I think the question is what's a

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If he's actually a center and gets more face off wins,

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then I think you could lean that way, and he

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is pretty good at face offs. But yeah, I think

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it's crazy that we're having this conversation. I would still

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lean Luchenko for the upside, but I think they're way

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more similar than anyone might have thought coming into this season.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, let's move on to number two. Michael bransig nieguard

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the Norwegians have entered the chat. I don't know if

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you realize Victor. I do have some Norwegian heritage. I

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grew up with Ole and Lina jokes. I am familiar

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with the genre and I have long been I've long

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been like, how come there are not more great Norwegian

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hockey players? And then it dawns on me during the

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Winter Olympics because they're all doing skiing, shooting things so

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that they can win the most gold medals at the Olympics,

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and that's where they're focused instead of the hockey. But

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there are hockey prospects on the way, and Brian sig

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Nieguard is the man of the hour right now, top

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Detroit prospect doing well in his first year in North America.

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He stopped he just short of passing the entry level

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slide limit in October for the Wings. You got nine

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games in and down in Grand Rapids in the AHL,

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thirty four in his first forty eight very physical guy

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among Red Wings with at least one hundred minutes of

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ice time. This is when he was in the pros

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for ten games. His hit rate of fifteen per sixty

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was not only the highest on the team, and that

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is for the full season, not only the highest rate

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on the team, but his fifteen per sixty. The runner

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up has ten hits per sixty, so he was just

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throwing his body around when he was up there. Bash

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plus some scoring ability. Yes please, Michael Brand Signey guard

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and in our NHL Rankking Pole, we're gonna put him

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up against Brandon Coots, who was drafted exactly the same

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number fifteen pick, but one year later by the Vancouver Canucks.

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And what do you know, pick number fifteen in either

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year gets you an exact tie vote in this one.

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Michael Brand, Sygney Guard Brandon Coots, both on a fifty

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to fifty vote here, a dead heat as a recent

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Canucks top pick, puts up a spirited showing victor. What

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Speaker 2: I wonder what people are thinking when they see the

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vote close like this. Do you think they just like

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vote to keep it tied. Come on, let's try to

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break this. And then there were good number of votes too.

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Speaker 3: Some people see it and they're like, oh, this should

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be even, this should be I'm going to vote for

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the other side just to keep it even. Yeah, what

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are you doing out their voters?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Make it to make it, make

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a choice, make it different. Anyways, No, I think these

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guys are interesting. I got to see Kots live last

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fall and he definitely looked great for the WHL, but

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comparing it to what he's going to be in the

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NHL is more useful forensic Nie guard. Yeah, that's interesting.

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someone who's going to be a big time hitter, but

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boy did he ever when he got his opportunity this fall.

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That was pretty interesting. And yeah, maybe that keeps up.

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I'm not quite sure if it's going to, but look

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I can I'll touch on that a little bit later

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in the HL what he's been doing. But yeah, looking

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at these two, I think that Coots has a little

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bit more offense, and the hockey prospecting model would agree

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with that. His star potential is eighteen percent right now

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to Michael Brensignee Guards one percent, and both of them

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look fairly likely to be NHLs. In fact, Kutz even

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has a higher NHL or probability, So that's interesting. And

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he was with Seattle and then got traded to the

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Prince Albert Raiders, which has it's pretty similar in terms

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of his point per game potential, it's been a little

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bit over point per game. Kots did have those three

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NHL games at the beginning of the season as well,

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that somewhat disrupted his time period. But brensig ni Guard

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being Norwegian and not having to worry about the NHL

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COCHL agreement. He was nineteen at the beginning of this

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season and was able to make the NHL but then

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go straight to the AHL, which he wouldn't have been

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able to do if he was in the CHL. So

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his season has been going pretty well. Thirty four points

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and forty eight games. Looking at Brenswick nie Guard's hockey

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Prospecting skater card, though, it's really interesting and there's a

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lot of not so good numbers here. A lot of

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his transition game and play driving wasn't isn't great. But

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this is a harder league, so I think you have

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to give him that a little bit. He hasn't been

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so good at loose puck recovery or puck battles one,

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but his fenwick is extremely high, so that's good. And

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he's been struggling in the face off dot and I

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know they really want him to be a center. Maybe

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he ends up being more of a winger based on that,

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but his Perferle contributions. Both of these guys actually have

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pretty high Perferle contribution bash in particular the hits and shots.

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For brensign Guard, he's bashing up at eighty four percent,

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so that's pretty nice. So you do have a strong

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Perferle floor. I just think that the scoring potential is

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higher for Kots and so I have him in my

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puck said rating ranked a little higher. I have Brensi

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Nieguard at a five point seven to six and Koots

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at a six point five to one, so I think

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there's a little better chance to Kots end up being

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a higher than average roster player. The five is the

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average and Brendi Nieguard that rating means I feel pretty

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confident that he's going to be just an average guy

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on your roster. But he's certainly seen like an NHLer

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and a guy that's going to contribute perferally, so at

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least you have that floor there. But I don't know

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that he's going to be much of a big time score.

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Bresid Leeguard is Kots. I'm still holding out a little

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bit of judgment on him. I think that he has

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the potential, but they might end up these guys might

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end up being pretty similar. I would just lean kots

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because I think there's possibly a little bit more there.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Victor, don't take the coots away from the

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Canucks fans. Please clete them that. Thank you for doing that.

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Let's move on. Max Plant is the next guy up here,

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Detroit Red Wings prospect taken in the second round back

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in twenty twenty four. We actually talked about him a

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couple episodes ago after the World Juniors. Now we can

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address him in the context of this Detroit system. His

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scoring pace actually in the NCAA has dipped since we

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last discussed him two months ago, from the one point

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five he had in the twenty twenty five portion of

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the NCAA season to a solid point per game now

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in the meat of the twenty twenty six schedule. That

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is what it is. We're gonna put him up against

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Liam green Tree in the NHL ranking poll. Liam green Tree,

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who we also discussed. That was funny because we discussed

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him while he was a LA Kings prospect. Then promptly

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he got flipped to be a New York Rangers prospect.

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In the ur Timmy Paneren trade, which I updated the

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notes for the episode four, but we recorded it before that.

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We've got green Tree up against Plant, and sorry New

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York fans because Plant actually comes out ahead in this

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one over green Tree, even though green Tree is also

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having a very decent season. In the OHL fifty three

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to forty seven percent in favor of Plant. He's up

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against another late twenty twenty four first round or the

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last time we had him in a polls against Merrik Vanaker.

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This time it's Liam green Tree, and again like he

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did last time, Plant wins, Victor. What are your thoughts

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on this young man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Plant, he's definitely someone who has emerged this season.

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I don't think we thought as much of him prior

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to that, and I think that's okay. But he is

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still one of the top NC DOUBLEA scores. I think

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when we talked about him, he was the top, but

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he's not anymore. It's Ethan Wittenbach who we also talked about,

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t J. Hughes, Cruz Lucius, all those guys are ahead

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of him, although they have played more games and so

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that's and McKenna's up there too. A couple of guys

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have played more games Anyways, he's having an outstanding in

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cublea season. He certainly will be in the Hobie conversation.

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He certainly is one of the best players on his team,

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and I think that certainly makes a big difference. University

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of Minnesota Duluth is where he Max Plants is playing,

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so forty five points in thirty four games. He had

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that disappointing World Juniors. I think we talked about him

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after that. In this Detroit system, he's certainly someone to

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be excited about, and there's definitely some optimism that he's

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going to be a player for them, where I think

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previously there they didn't really know what he would be

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or if he would even be in the conversation to

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be in NHLR, But he guys jumped to the top

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of their top of my ranks in terms of forwards

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for Red Wings, a lot of the other guys who

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Brads and Nie guard is in there, if Finny is

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in there, Nate Danielson is in there. I have all

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those guys lower just because I think they'll be closer

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to average roster players, and I think Max plant has

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the certainly has the potential to be a more likely

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top six than some of those guys. It may not

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work out, but I do like him better than green

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Tree here. Green Tree, with the move over to New York,

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is definitely one of their top prospects. They don't have

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the best system anymore New York. Some of the guys

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who graduated some have fizzled out, but Gay pro is

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still tops there, so green Tree is just behind that,

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and I still like him. I have a decent score

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for him. I have him at a six point four

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or five for green Tree, and I have Plant at

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seven point one one, so a little bit more likely

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for Plant to be a difference maker. So I like

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that the hockey prospect in between the two clearly leads Plant.

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He raised his star potential each year from twenty seven

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to thirty eight to sixty two percent. Green Tree is

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stabilized in the high teens. He's currently at sixteen percent.

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Green Tree hasn't really had the best of seasons for

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Windsor this season sixty one points in forty four games.

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This is after one hundred and nineteen points in sixteen

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sixty four games for Windsor last season, so definitely a

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huge change. I know that there's some context with the

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team there but yeah, for me, I think it's pretty

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clear I want Plant, even though you have green Tree

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being drafted much earlier. It's always interesting too to think

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about did LA know that they didn't have that great

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of a player and were happy to give him up,

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or do you use the narrative that New York had

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to get one of their best pieces, so they got

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green Tree and that makes it more exciting. I definitely

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think that he's still a decent prospect, but I think

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some of his habits and the foot speed and some

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of the things that we saw, especially at the World

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Juniors where he wasn't that impressive, I think is going

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to continue to be a problem. And it really works

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me going to the New York system because they don't

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have a very good track record of developing and grating

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great players, so that might be an issue for him.

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So I definitely go with the people here. Max Plant

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a little bit more exciting than Green Tree.

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Speaker 3: One more forward to discuss here. Carter Bear, the mid

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first round pick last year. I don't think. Yeah. Carter

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Bear is in the top ten of points per game

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in the WHL, where he's an ALT captain. In Everett.

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He plays with Land and DuPont there. I'm just a

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humble country podcaster, Victor, but I've heard good things about

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this land and DuPont kid coming up. Not this draft,

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but I think next one exceptional status is doing very well,

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and Carter Bear is out there with him. Anyway, back

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to Bear, the kid plays with a lot of want

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and he's a star for this Everett team, and we

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need to talk about him for the Red Wings and

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in comparison to Cole Eiserman. Oh, let's just pull out

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col Eiserman and beat him up again. I feel like

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it's weekly almost Coliserman ends up in one of these

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polls and we have to talk about him. I feel

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like a margin of victory here fifty eight to forty

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two percent might be from folks who aren't following Carter

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behar because it seems like to me, just on its

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face the stats going on here, that Bear might deserve

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even a bigger blowout than fifty eight to forty two

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given his exceptional performance in the WHL.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Victor, Well, I know this is fantasy,

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but you always have to think about which one of

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these players is the team gonna value more and be

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more excited about and There's no question it's Carter Behar.

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He is going to be and is a dream for

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a coach. Put him in any situation. He's tenacious, he's feisty,

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he is very good on both sides of the puck.

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He's gonna be responsible in his own end. He's going

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to be competitive. You can feel comfortable playing him any

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spot in the lineup and in any situation, and that

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is the complete opposite of Cole Eiserman. He certainly has that.

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He's a one trick pony, and that is a very

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good trick. He's a really good goal scorer, probably underrated

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passer and play, but he's certainly not that great away

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from the puck, and he knows that. He says he's

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working on It's been saying this for years, and I

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think it is getting a little bit better, but it's

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still not great. And even though he's playing on a

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really good NCAA team, there are times where you just,

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you know, you don't notice him for great stretches of

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the game, and the best players that's not really the case.

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They find a way to impact the game in other ways,

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and I don't think he's really figured that out yet.

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How to impact the way the game other than scoring,

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which is obviously really important, but he's that's going to

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limit continue to limit his opportunities. And that's why I

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have Qualijaman at a five point four to six. Even

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though he's a great scorer, I just don't know that

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he's going to be a great fantasy asset. He might

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end up just being that guy who's fringy and scores

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a good amount but doesn't can't really take his game

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to the next level at the NHL level, So I

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worry that's what he's going to be. Car Bear, I

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think is going to be a staple in the lineup.

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And looking at his numbers in the WHL, there so

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many of them are so good. His competitiveness is loose,

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pucker cover, puck battles, his play driving, his transition game,

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his passes to the slot to dangerous areas. All that

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looks really good. He seems to struggle a little bit

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with face offs, and maybe maybe that's not him long term,

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maybe he's more of a winger. But the bash is

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great and he's gonna do that for you. So tons

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of bash, whereas Isserman shoots a lot, actually has hit

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some blocks for Iaman aren't terrible, like he'll be decently bashye,

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but not to the same extent. So yeah, I think

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00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:31,480
it's interesting between these two. The hockey prospecting has them

476
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:34,759
averaging out. Iserman was way higher up in the seventies.

477
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:36,599
Now his star potential is in the low thirties and

478
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,759
Carter Bear's at twenty nine percent. So they're actually more

479
00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:42,559
similar now. And I think Bear's stock is going to

480
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,279
continue to rise and Ierman's may continue to fall or

481
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,799
stay staggered in So I agree with you. I definitely

482
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200
think this should have been way higher for Carter Behar.

483
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,920
He's I feel much more confident in his projection and

484
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,799
his value to the team that he's going to get

485
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,119
tons of opportunities. So I really I like that one.

486
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,160
He's going to be a fan. Is he gonna get

487
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,920
lots of ECE time? Definitely going Carter Bear here.

488
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And just to define my term here, want is

489
00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:12,440
something that Jason Parks came up with a baseball prospect

490
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,240
writer fifteen years ago, and I'm shamelessly stealing from him.

491
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:20,119
It's the It's a noun, and it means absolute grinder,

492
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:22,440
wants to come in early, wants to make himself the

493
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,440
best plays the hardest, absolutely his dedicated, merciless loves what

494
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,079
he does. See Sidney Crosby as the ultimate example of

495
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,960
having want in hockey, and it seems like Carter Bear's

496
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,160
got a little bit of that. And in which is

497
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,000
like you said, is gonna win Durham to a coach?

498
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,079
Finally Victor, Finally we make it to the sweet kremberlet

499
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,400
of this Detroit Red Wing system. The big two goalies,

500
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,200
Trey Augustine we'll talk about first. He We've been talking

501
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,400
about the two goalie prospects for Detroit. It feels like

502
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,880
for years. First we're gonna cover Augustine. He's the goalie

503
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,599
for Michigan State for Sparty up there in East Lansing.

504
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,559
He was the minder of the net for the US

505
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,680
in back to back World Juniors Championships. Lest we forget,

506
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,160
obviously not there this year. He's aged out. This year.

507
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,599
He's second among NCAA goalies and wins twenty two to

508
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:12,680
seven to one with a nine to twenty nine save percentage.

509
00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:15,440
He's in year three at Michigan State, just turned twenty

510
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,319
one at the end of February, so there's no rush.

511
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,920
We've got John Gibson in the BIGS. Let Trey succeed

512
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:24,680
down there in Michigan State. We're gonna put him up

513
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,079
against Jacob Fowler, which seems unfair to me because Fowler's

514
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,079
already had some success with the Montreal Canadians, although he's

515
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:34,200
settled in as the third Banana in that goalie rotation

516
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:39,240
this year with the emergence there is Adobish I'm blinking

517
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,079
with Montebou. Yeah, he has settled in there, but Fowler

518
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,039
has definitely shown us something in the NHL already. In Augustine,

519
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,160
even though he was drafted one round earlier in the

520
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,440
same draft as not yet because he's succeeded in college.

521
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:55,119
What do you think of this comparison, Victor, and what

522
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,640
do you think of Trey Augustine at this point?

523
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,799
Speaker 2: I think, and like in some of these comparisons, the answers,

524
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,599
you want both, right, and I think you definitely want

525
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,720
both here. I think people really underestimate Trey Augustine's competitiveness.

526
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:10,680
And you were talking about want. I don't know how

527
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,160
that applies to goalies, but you see some goalies are

528
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,480
just super technical and precise or athletic, and that's all great.

529
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,559
That's like physical tools, but the between the years and

530
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,000
the competitiveness, the just inability to give up on a

531
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,160
play or a puck. Not all goalies have that, and

532
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,559
Trey Augustine absolutely does. He's been a winner at every level.

533
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:31,799
I look at his Elite Prospects page and it's like,

534
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,359
you eighteen gold, you twenty gold times two and c

535
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,920
DOUBLEA Division champ. Like he hasn't won the NCAA title

536
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,839
fors and four yet, but he's won just about every

537
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,079
level he's been at, and that's just I think a

538
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,960
big factor is just his competitiveness. Like he's very technical

539
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,200
and he reads the play exceptionally well, but he's not

540
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,759
the most athletic guy. And he's not the tallest guy.

541
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:54,440
He's only six one p ninety four. It's not like

542
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,160
he's small or anything. It's not. It's not like we're

543
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,799
talking about a five to eleven goalie, but six to

544
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,839
one is slightly under what some people consider optimal size.

545
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,640
But he just has excelled at every single level. And

546
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,799
I think that you know, you might hear what I'm

547
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,519
about to say about Fowler and completely disregard Augustine, but

548
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,519
I truly feel that he and Cosa are going to

549
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,559
be a dandem for years to come, and I think

550
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,240
they're both starter quality, so it might end up being

551
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:20,880
just who fits with the team and the way that

552
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,200
they play when they're both ready, because Augustine definitely works

553
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,119
better in a structured environment where he predicts where the

554
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,960
shots are coming from and has a better defensive structure

555
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,160
in front of him, whereas Cosa will talk about later,

556
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,039
it's a little bit different, But you're right about Fowler.

557
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,559
It's really hard to compare to someone who's already shown

558
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:45,480
some NHL's success and has already shown also at various

559
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,279
levels that he's the next coming here. And he's been

560
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:51,839
pretty fantastic at the he was pretty fantastic at the

561
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,640
NCAA level, and he's transitioned to the HL extremely well,

562
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,799
including last season on a playoff run with Laval, and

563
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:01,920
this season he's been great for them as well at

564
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,160
eighteen and seven record, and we saw him in the

565
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:09,079
NHL completely looking not at all out of place for

566
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:11,839
a goalie, which is not something that you always tend

567
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,400
to see for goalies early goalies that get called up.

568
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,039
Because he's still extremely young, Jacob Fowler is. He's only

569
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:20,960
twenty one, and usually we don't talk about goalies making

570
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,480
a big impact until they're closer to twenty three or

571
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,960
twenty four, So the fact that he's gotten such a

572
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,880
good track record on his belt already is pretty fantastic.

573
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:34,920
He's already in his ten games in the NHL this season,

574
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,039
he's already outperformed his expected goals metrics both at even

575
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:42,279
strength and short handed, so it didn't really seem to

576
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,680
face him too much. Certainly, it makes sense to let

577
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:47,640
him go back down and keep writing Dobash and Monteamboau

578
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,759
to some extent, but yeah, he's definitely the future star

579
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,599
starter for years. I would say I think it's a

580
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,720
little tricky with Fewler and Dobash long term because I

581
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,680
think both those guys are really good and they might

582
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:01,000
end up splitting some time. But yeah, I think I

583
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,680
have to go Fouler here between Fowler and Augustine, just

584
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,599
because I think he has more pure upside, pushed himself

585
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,599
to the frontal line and everyone else would have to

586
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,240
dethrone him, Whereas Augustine I think is in that competitive

587
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,319
fight with Cosa and certainly can be a number one,

588
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:20,000
but I don't think he's the no doubt, I'm gonna

589
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:23,960
absolutely be the number one guy. Interesting that both these

590
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,400
guys have around to forty percent and see nhlther probability

591
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,640
in the Hockey Prospecting Model slightly higher for Fowler, but

592
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,119
they're both a little bit lower than you might think.

593
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,279
But still I have to go with Fowler here. But

594
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:38,240
I really like both these guys, Jesse. I want both

595
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,119
of them on my teams.

596
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,119
Speaker 3: Then let's talk about the other Sebasti we just talked about.

597
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,759
I get that's right. We talked about the Montreal guy.

598
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,039
But let's talk about the other Detroit guy, Sebastian Kosa.

599
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,759
It's not his fault. Pictor, Let's stop blaming Kosa for

600
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,240
going before jessper Walstadt because he didn't draft himself before.

601
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:59,319
Yesper Waalstat, maybe he feels like he's better than jessper Wallspat,

602
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,480
but Cosa, it turns out, is going to be just

603
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,720
finding his own right for those who's stressed when he

604
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:07,240
was drafted in the wings, send him to the ECHL,

605
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:09,680
and we're all like, oh no, what happened here? They

606
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:12,200
drafted a guy and sent him to the ECHL. He

607
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:17,079
has certainly recovered and he is on a ascending career. Trajectory.

608
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:21,200
He's performing very well at AHL Grand Rapids this year

609
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:24,119
nine to twenty seven say percentage, thirty one starts for

610
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,559
the team and the best record in the AHL this year,

611
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,279
the first to clinch a playoff spot where the Grand

612
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Rapids Griffins Cosa has a couple of years on. Augustine

613
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,599
seems to be working okay to have a top goalie

614
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:40,119
in the NCAA, the top goalie in the AHL. Arguably,

615
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,720
one would think someone would be coming in behind the

616
00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:45,759
thirty eight year old unrestricted free agent Cam Talbot when

617
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:50,079
he leaves this year. John Gibson's renaissance is great in Detroit,

618
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:51,519
but he will be in the last year of his

619
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:55,400
contract next season. In a way, really good to keep

620
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,920
Augustine in the NCAA because Augustine and Kosa are both

621
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,119
able to thrive right now and get full time starts,

622
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,680
while John Gibson is doing very well and helping Detroit

623
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,240
with a playoff push in the NHL. But yeah, there's

624
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:13,039
a transition coming and who's coming first, and are they

625
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,640
both coming? And where are we going to put everybody?

626
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,400
It's not as crowded as it was a couple of

627
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,559
years ago in Detroit, but it's definitely going to be

628
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:23,039
crowded when both of these guys come out. Let's put

629
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,000
Sebastian Kosa in the NHL ranking poll up against Sergei Miruschev,

630
00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:30,240
who who went a couple of years a couple of

631
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,680
years or one year later than Kosa, but he's also

632
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,480
a little over a year younger, and he's already had

633
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,279
some time in the NHL as Mershop. But Kosa wins

634
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,680
handily over him, sixty seven point five to thirty two

635
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,319
point five percent. Mershov's time in the NHL's had uneven results.

636
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:52,519
Obviously they were not comfortable enough with him to just

637
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,759
make him part of a tandem there Ar Turshilovs, and

638
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,440
of course the famous Pittsburgh goalie trade this year changing

639
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000
that landscape a little bit. But both Kosa and Murshop

640
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,039
doing very well in the AHL. Victor is Cosa the

641
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,799
clear winner and how high are you on this young man.

642
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna hear that I'm not taking the Detroit goalie

643
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:18,599
in either of these and maybe take it as a

644
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,799
negative sign, But the reality is you gotta blame Mason

645
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:25,839
Black because he put him up against two exceptional goalies

646
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:27,440
that I have a little bit higher my rank. So no,

647
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,039
I'm not taking Kosa, and I'll tell you why in

648
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,240
a second. Even though everything you said is true, he

649
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:34,440
has been great, he has turned things around. There was

650
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,799
a lot of skepticism when he was in the ECCHL,

651
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,680
but we talked about it with Kat Silverman. This is fine.

652
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,440
This is giving him time to figure out his game,

653
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,960
and it worked and he's been great in the AHL

654
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,359
ever since. And I think that he certainly, as I mentioned,

655
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,079
looks like he's gonna compete for the number one job

656
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,000
with Augustine has the inside track is a little bit older.

657
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:56,720
Certainly is bigger and more athletic, but sometimes with that athleticism,

658
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,400
he relies on it a little too much, and sometimes

659
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,440
he's a little moves a little too quick and opens

660
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,400
up some holes and plays a little deep in his net,

661
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,960
which opens up some spots to shoot at. So there

662
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:11,519
might be a little bit more concern there long term.

663
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,000
As I mentioned, with Augustine, it's just going to come

664
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,039
down to style. Who fits better with the way the

665
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,159
Wings are playing right now. I think based on their

666
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,239
defensive structure, it should be Augustine, but we'll see how

667
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,360
that works out. I think that they'll give both a try,

668
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,760
and I think you're right. Talbot will move on or

669
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,159
retire or whatever, and Cosa will be the backup and

670
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,440
it'll be great having Gibson there who they wanted to

671
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,599
rely too much on Cosa. That'll be perfect. And then

672
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,119
Augustine will come along after some HL time and they'll

673
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,679
split the net. So you're gonna be fine, Red Wings

674
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,840
and goal don't worry about it. Cosa is great. But

675
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,280
let me talk about Serge Mhershaw, because this guy is

676
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,760
frigging incredible and he is the next coming in my opinion,

677
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,320
he's going to be awesome. He is killing it in

678
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,119
the AHL already. We did see him in the NHL.

679
00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:59,119
There was some there was a bit, a bit of

680
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:01,440
a mixed bag there look great at times, he looked

681
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:04,360
like he didn't understand where shots were coming from sometimes,

682
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,880
which happens with young goalies and this Pittsburgh team, although

683
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,599
they are apparently a playoff team, much to my complete bewilderment,

684
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,639
but he has He did do pretty well in terms

685
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:18,559
of the underlying numbers in the NHL, but clearly needs

686
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:21,599
a little bit more HL time to adjust. But this

687
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:24,159
guy has a super high ceiling. He's not the biggest either,

688
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,239
but he's just so incredibly technical and an amazing skater.

689
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,719
His feet moves so well and he's able to track

690
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,199
the puck very well. He's six to two one ninety,

691
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,840
so it's not like he's small or anything. He's not

692
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000
sixty six like Kosa, but in terms of athleticism and

693
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:43,679
tracking and positioning, he is elite. So I think he's

694
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:45,840
going to be a star starter for years to come,

695
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:50,320
and hopefully Pittsburgh will be good by then. I guess

696
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,639
they're good now, although it still doesn't make sense to me,

697
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,559
But is he a better goalie than she loves and

698
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:58,440
Skinner and Jari And I would say absolutely yes. Maybe

699
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,679
not right at this moment, but I think he absolutely

700
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,199
will be, and he's a reason to be excited because

701
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,880
he's so good. He's the kind of good that prevents

702
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,679
you from tanking, which may not be good the Pittsburgh

703
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:11,119
Penguins that try to decide they want to tank, but

704
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:13,639
he's like just circing level good with an awful Rangers

705
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:15,199
team that just keeps him in it every night, and

706
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,960
like he's that level. So I'm taking Sergei Murshov and

707
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:21,880
I'm pretty happy about it. But again another one wre

708
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,000
I would like to have both. I would like to

709
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:24,840
have Cosa and Myershov on my team, but I think

710
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,880
Marshov has star elite starter potential and Cosa should be

711
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,039
a starter, So there's a little bit of a tear

712
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:32,960
difference there for me.

713
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: Jesse all right, wow, all right, a rave review on Murshaw.

714
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,440
That's something to keep in mind. Let's take a quick break.

715
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,639
We're gonna come back and move on to our next

716
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:47,199
prospect system on.

717
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: Selfish, Shock's right, selfish, break it down, skate fuck, don't

718
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,920
got It's still gonna be there when he's gotta jumps,

719
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,199
taking coast to coast talking for angles are still shot

720
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,559
a bad balance. That's a good breakaway. Gotta get the

721
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:10,079
bounced boys.

722
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: As we returned, Victor, this is some time l brackets

723
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,519
when we dance and when sometimes Victor says some things

724
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:21,559
that people might be interested in joining up with us for.

725
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,559
Do you got any little plugs to put in here?

726
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we took way longer than I thought, But

727
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:29,719
a few weeks ago we finally got all the data

728
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,239
updated on the site and post World Juniors, and midway

729
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,000
through the season, huge updates and all the data is updated,

730
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,760
so we'll be talking about some of the patron casts,

731
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,360
some of the guys who moved the most. You can

732
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,440
get access to all of that, the ranks, the tiers,

733
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,159
the list, the player cards, all of that. If you're

734
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,599
a patron, you have to sign up for the top level,

735
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:50,360
the ultralifers, and you get access to all of that.

736
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,800
There's also a download available where if you just want

737
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,559
the PDF of all the ranks. It's basically like a guide.

738
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:58,679
It has all the ranks by team, by forward by position,

739
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,000
broken down in several different ways. You could just buy

740
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:05,159
Brandon a few cups of coffee for the efforts and

741
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:08,440
you get unlimited. Every time we update it, you get

742
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,239
access to the download, which is so a year's worth

743
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,840
of that. Usually we do five or six updates throughout

744
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,199
the year, so it's pretty good deal if you just

745
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,320
want to do that rather than continued website access. Of course,

746
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,639
I think getting access to the cards is really helpful.

747
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,760
But yeah, all of that plus patroon casts and bonus

748
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,440
content go over to patreon dot com Slash Fantasy Hockey Life.

749
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 3: Talented dudes we're working with here and like I say,

750
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,920
at the end of every episode. Thank you to Brandon

751
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,880
out there. Let's move on to a system that you

752
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,519
mentioned earlier you're not quite as enthused about, but we

753
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:39,440
got to talk about him. And there's still some guys

754
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,400
with fantasy relevance here and that is the Dallas Stars.

755
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:45,400
And in this system, we are going to talk about

756
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,519
a couple of guys that you are seeing in Dallas

757
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:51,000
right now, and not just guys who were in the minors.

758
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,440
But we're going to start out with Maverick Bork, a

759
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:57,079
man of mystery to me. He is probably one of

760
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:59,599
the last prospect episodes we'll discuss him on. But he's

761
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:03,320
continuing to transition to the NHL. Hasn't been scoring in

762
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,519
the NHL, but advanced stats do hold up. He's getting

763
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,360
mid six minutes and power play two time one. Suspects

764
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,559
of the Waters are not partying anytime soon to let

765
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:15,559
him glide to a spot in the top line or anything,

766
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,199
given the talent at the top end of the system

767
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,880
and the possibility that they could trade for somebody else

768
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,880
at the deadline, which will happen before you listen to

769
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,880
this episode. Not sure what to think of Maverick Bork's progress,

770
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,039
He took a big jump his second year in the NHL.

771
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:34,960
This is basically his second in the NHL. Maybe he

772
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,920
will continue to round into form as the season comes along,

773
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,599
but yeah, right now the results are mixed, and probably

774
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,480
his potential has dipped a bit in the last couple

775
00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:46,599
of years as far as the way that the models

776
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,000
take him. But in the NHL ranking poll, we put

777
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:53,280
him up against Ridley Greek, who in some ways has

778
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,760
similar results for the Ottawa Senators, although I think he's

779
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,239
getting a little bit more juice right now than and

780
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:05,760
Greg comes out ahead fifty two to forty eight over Bork,

781
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:09,679
similar guys getting middle six times scoring in a somewhat

782
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,719
similar rate victory. What do you think of those comparison?

783
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,960
What do you think of Maverick Bork?

784
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've long been a fan of Borg. I think

785
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,880
listeners to this podcast will probably know that kind of thought.

786
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,599
He might transfer a little bit better some of his scoring,

787
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,960
But the reality in Dallas is that they have such

788
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,679
good depth that they allow him to play a little

789
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:31,480
bit lower in the lineup and it works out really

790
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,199
well for him. They like to spread out their offense.

791
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,880
Although right now it seems like he's getting really good

792
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,960
deployment and as someone who might be a little bit

793
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,239
more exciting in terms of streaming role. But playing with

794
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,519
John Why Johnson and Jason Robertson is pretty fantastic and

795
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:46,880
that's where we hope he will stay. They might not,

796
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:51,039
So I like Bork a lot. You're right that these

797
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:54,079
guys are basically the same. They're like thirty five ish

798
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:57,400
point paced players, more depth, rolls on their team, not

799
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,559
getting a ton of ice time. So I think pick

800
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:03,880
them and a lot of leagues are redraft league. Certainly,

801
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,559
they're probably their streamer territory at best, but in deeper

802
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,400
leagues you certainly want to think about who has a

803
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,480
little bit higher potential. At hockey prospecting, Bork graduated slightly

804
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:19,119
higher sixteen percent versus Griggs twelve percent. Looking at some

805
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,239
of the underlying metrics, I ran some queries ver evolving

806
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,639
hockey based on how much time they've been in the

807
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,519
NHL and not just looking at this season, and Bork

808
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:33,400
definitely looks better in all pretty much all situations offense, defense,

809
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,559
power play, penalty. He definitely looks a little bit better.

810
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:41,320
The one big difference is Greig looks better shorthanded defensively,

811
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,760
so penalty killer, and I think he has a little

812
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,840
bit better bash, although he might be surprised that Bork's

813
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,599
bashed isn't terrible. Neither one of them shoot a ton, though,

814
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:53,599
and so they're definitely a little light on their peripheral

815
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:56,519
contribution with the exception of Grieg's hits, and Greeg has

816
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:59,679
been playing on this line. Maybe that means less fewer

817
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,920
hits for him because it's conjuckt hitting everybody. But I

818
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,760
think in terms of who has more untapped offense, I

819
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,880
have to go with Bork. And so it's interesting that

820
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,280
Greg he's been consistently playing higher in the lieup. Maybe

821
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,760
that's why the voters liked him a little bit better

822
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,199
in this poll. Otherwise I don't really understand. I think

823
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,199
Bork has more offense, but on the other hand that

824
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Dallas does spread their offense around, and so maybe that's

825
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960
the reason to not be as excited about Bork. But yeah,

826
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,199
these guys are certainly not very interesting in shallower leagues,

827
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,920
but in super deep leagues, certainly in thirty two team leagues,

828
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,039
these guys are both definitely rostered and probably decent depth

829
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:39,960
options on your team. So you might want to think

830
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,639
about who you want, and I would want Bork. I

831
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:45,320
think he still has some untapped offensive potential. He's only

832
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,159
at one hundred and thirty four NHL games, so it's

833
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,639
not like he's even hit that two hundred where a

834
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:53,000
lot of guys break out, So I'm gonna hold out

835
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,480
a little bit more hope for that. Greg is that

836
00:42:54,519 --> 00:42:56,400
two hundred and twenty four games in case you're interested,

837
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,119
So he probably is what he is at thirty four

838
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:02,920
point pace. Player Bork is still at thirty point pace,

839
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,039
but he has about seventy sixty five more games to

840
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:08,199
go to show what he can be.

841
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: Very good. Next, we have a player who I will

842
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,360
say makes me wonder whether I have undiagnosed dyslexia when

843
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,760
I try to read his name, because it's Ayrton Martino,

844
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,239
and somehow when I look at it, I want to say,

845
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,119
it's like Ariton or Marino or something, and this is

846
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:30,239
just not working. Maybe I shouldn't make that joke, but

847
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,039
you have to be very careful spelling his name is

848
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:35,639
what I would have to say. The winger from Toronto

849
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,920
finished a solid four year career at Clarkson University and

850
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,280
now he's in the second year of the AHL, so

851
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,880
he's he's well down the funnel considering his age and maturity,

852
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:50,400
and the scoring has definitely developed slowly. Given all of that,

853
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:54,199
I don't think there's probably much to see here voters.

854
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:57,079
I usually don't comment on this either, but the voters

855
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:00,400
did not express great enthusiasm voting in this poll. This

856
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:04,920
was a little voted on pole, but Simoon Robertson of

857
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,800
the Saint Louis Blues was up against Marino. No, that's

858
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,840
not Marino. He misspelled it. It's Martino. Maybe that's why.

859
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,280
And Robertson won this poll fifty three to forty seven percent.

860
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,840
Victor Martino Robertson or flip over the monopoly board and

861
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,159
just quit. What do you prefer here?

862
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: I think it's definitely the latter, And we talked about

863
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,639
somewhere you want both of these guys. This is definitely

864
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,599
one where I don't think you want either. I'm glad

865
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,719
you said that about Martino because I feel like reading

866
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,199
his name sometimes gives me a mini stroke as well.

867
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,280
I'm like, what is happening here? And so when I

868
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,119
try to look up his name, I usually just use

869
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:43,280
his last name. I'm like, Martino. Yeah, and then I can't.

870
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:45,920
I can never remember if the y comes before the

871
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,199
tee or like how that's all working. None of this

872
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,239
is really relevant to his performance on the ice, but

873
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,280
I totally feel you it's a confusing first name. He

874
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,719
has been interesting, Martino has and that he's really trended

875
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,480
down his equivalency since Clarkson, who's a STA out at

876
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,760
Clarkson University, and his final season went well over point

877
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,639
per game. That's when a lot of people started noticing him.

878
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:08,079
Fifty one points in thirty nine games, and then had

879
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:11,639
some ECHL time sometime with the Texas Stars. I actually

880
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,800
watched him in a recent HL game that I'll be

881
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,880
writing about for the Journey, and I will have to say,

882
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,920
Artin Martinez completely invisible for most of that game, which

883
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960
is not a good sign. You just did not stand

884
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,159
out at all for the Texas Stars. And there are

885
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:27,760
some other guys who are pretty good on that team,

886
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,920
but you expect to see some flashes. I expect to

887
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,519
see something really exciting player seat a little bit, and

888
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,519
there was not any of that. He has eight points

889
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:37,039
in twenty eight games with the Texas Stars this season.

890
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,400
This is first full HL season I guess maybe there's

891
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,920
some hope for more, but I don't think he's going

892
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,079
to be anything. I don't even think he's in NHL

893
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,840
or quite frankly, I have him at a four point

894
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,559
six y four meaning sub average roster player, which basically

895
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:52,159
means I don't really think he's going to make it.

896
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,920
And a lot of his tracking data on my Fantasy

897
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,800
Hockey Life skater card is pretty awful. A lot of

898
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,440
his play driving is off. I don't understand how this

899
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:03,840
happens though his course he is at eighty percent and

900
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,039
his FEN looks at sixteen percent. I don't know how

901
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,639
those two can be so different, but it paints a

902
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,519
different story there, so I'm a little confused by that.

903
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:12,840
But the rest of his numbers are all pretty awful.

904
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:16,119
If you look at Simon Robertson on the other hand,

905
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,559
the Saint Louis draft pick, and he is also not

906
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,039
doing super well. This is a second season with Springfield

907
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,639
of the AHL since coming over. He's actually fewer points

908
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:28,239
this season than last season. A lot of his underlying

909
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,280
numbers are pretty bad. I have him at at three

910
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,239
point four or five. I just don't think either of

911
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,360
the guys are going to be relevant. I guess if

912
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,960
you had to pick, I would pick Martino just because

913
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,800
he is had less time in the AHL to show

914
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,559
that he can't hang. So, whereas Robertson this is the

915
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:48,000
second season, I wouldn't be surprised if Robinson just went

916
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:52,480
back to Sweden after this. Martino probably isn't going anywhere.

917
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:55,880
He might play several seasons in the AHL. Maybe eventually

918
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,960
he shows us something. But I think Jesse, as you said,

919
00:46:59,039 --> 00:46:59,920
just move along.

920
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: Here, cambrhone Schmidt. He was traded from Langley. I refused

921
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,559
to recognize him as Vancouver. They're Langley Victor. He went

922
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:11,719
down to Seattle this year in the WHL, and he

923
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,480
continues to put up amazing WHL scoring numbers. Actually, at

924
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:19,360
press time, his forty one goals between the two teams

925
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,840
of let's call him Vancouver and Seattle tops the WHL,

926
00:47:24,039 --> 00:47:26,599
while he's one off the points lead at present at

927
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:29,239
eighty seven. So he is burning it up right now

928
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,599
in the WHL. Now the exception that we always hear

929
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,199
for these guys, why haven't I seen him at the

930
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,079
top of my list? Well, he's five eight, so he's

931
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:40,000
on the shorter end. But I recently read. I've been

932
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:42,000
reading a lot about prehistory, Victor. Do you know five

933
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,960
eight is about the exact average of height of humans

934
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,880
through most of prehistory, So in a way, he's average.

935
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,599
Cameron Schmidt is up against even a Reapkin in our

936
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,280
NHL ranking poll, and it's pretty close. I know Riapkin

937
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,480
was taken around earlier and by the savvy Keynes, and

938
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,280
we always give a little extra oop to Keane's picks.

939
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,159
But so far in the HL, he's got two penalty

940
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,199
minutes and a quarter of a point per game, so

941
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:13,119
he's not showing out quite in the same way that

942
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:16,320
that old Cam Schmidt is in the DUB unless we're

943
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,800
heavily waiting, Bash, I don't quite understand how we're going

944
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,440
to give how we're going to give Riapkin even competition

945
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:26,519
in this one. Seems to me like Cameron Schmidt should

946
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:29,039
be winning by more than fifty four to forty six percent.

947
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,280
What do you think there, sir?

948
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,159
Speaker 2: You can't talk about ry Apkin without talking about his

949
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,599
attitude and the office issues, and I just continue to

950
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:41,280
think that's going to be an issue for him. It's

951
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,199
continued throughout his draft here that there was no one

952
00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:45,679
at the draft that I saw with more arrogance and

953
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,000
just gravitas than him, which confidence in yourself is one thing,

954
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:52,599
but having that kind of attitude is not something that

955
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:55,039
usually rubs off well with your teammates. So I just

956
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,639
worry about him. I don't know that he's really gonna

957
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:00,920
make it Ryapkin, especially because his away from the puck

958
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:03,360
play is pretty terrible. You can be as good all

959
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,840
you want with the puck on your stick, but you

960
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:07,719
have to be better away from it, and especially if

961
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,639
you're going to have an attitude like that, you better

962
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:12,639
be all world. So that concerns me a little bit.

963
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,760
Rapkin did go from the USHL to the Q and

964
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,079
was pretty great there for charlottean but then has moved

965
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:22,000
over to the HL for Chicago and has just seven

966
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,880
points in twenty five games, so it's been a bit

967
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,079
of a rough transition for him. Though he is still eighteen,

968
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:30,000
so hey, that can certainly improve. And if you're wondering

969
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,880
why he's in the AHL so young, it's because he's

970
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,239
Russian and went the USHL route and isn't bound by

971
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,599
the NHL agreement. So that's a strange move from the

972
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:42,400
Q to the A. But he's not bound by the

973
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:45,360
CHL agreement was an import draft, so I believe that's

974
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,920
why he is allowed to do that transition. But Schmid,

975
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,639
as you said, he is small five eight. I think

976
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,800
it was in Brooklyn nine nine where Jake Peralta quoted

977
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,119
a nineteen sixteen census saying that he was tall at

978
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:02,480
that height. Apparently I'm tall too if that's the case.

979
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,079
But no, he's a smaller guy, but he hits a ton,

980
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:08,199
He's very he's physical. Schmidt is maybe not. I guess

981
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:10,639
a ton is maybe slightly overrated, but he's pretty decent

982
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:13,360
for hits and shots, so he's a physical guy. He

983
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,760
transitioned really well. I watched him too live and he's

984
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,920
feisty and all around the puck. People probably want to

985
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,800
compare him to like Logan Stankove, and I think those

986
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,400
guys are in different worlds. I think Schmidt is a

987
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,599
decent player. Stank Coven was clearly elite and is obviously

988
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:31,760
in NHL. Aer Schmidt, I think it's going to be borderline.

989
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,599
But between these two, I would definitely take Cameron Schmidt. He,

990
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,159
as you mentioned, did win this poll fifty four to

991
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,360
forty six. But I agree it should be higher. His

992
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,239
hockey prospecting is much higher twenty nine percent. Chance of

993
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,639
being a start ray Apkins six percent. And even though

994
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:49,639
he's small, he's very feisty, he's very physical. I could

995
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:52,360
see him being like a Brendan Gallagher type or some relevance,

996
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:56,599
some physicality, some energy. Certainly has some skill too that

997
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,360
can play on a scoring line, but might settle into

998
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,519
a middle sixth depth scoring role. So in a deep league,

999
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,079
twenty four plus probably still pretty relevant, but in a

1000
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:09,559
more shallow league you might not be that excited in Schmid.

1001
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:13,079
And in terms of Ryapkin, I would just cautiously watch

1002
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,840
his development. I'm not investing anything in him until I

1003
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,880
see a big shift in some of those off ice

1004
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,239
off puck concerns.

1005
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: All Right, I think I'm finally going to say it, right, Victor.

1006
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,599
I think it's Liam Bischel, right, Bischel, not Bixel, which

1007
00:51:26,639 --> 00:51:30,880
I had been seeing. Nice the Stars. The Dallas Stars

1008
00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:36,000
took Mira Hayskin, Jake Ottinger, Thomas Harley, Maverick Bork, and

1009
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:39,400
Wyatt Johnston in the first round in a five year stretch.

1010
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,960
What an amazing time. But our next two discussions with

1011
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:45,079
the guys they've taken in the first round since that run,

1012
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:48,199
and the results are less overwhelming. Bischell took a lower

1013
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,639
body injury in November. He missed up to the end

1014
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:53,400
of the Olympic break. He'd been in a fifteen minute

1015
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,400
type time share strictly five on five. Dude doesn't play

1016
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,800
special teams, and he's returned to that since he came back.

1017
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:03,760
Excellent source of hits is this guy, and for a

1018
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,960
lower pairing type defenseman, fifteen minutes not bad, not in

1019
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:11,880
the complete dregs of minutes for them, but still it

1020
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,079
seems like limited offensive upside profile here to say, the

1021
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:19,400
least twelve points in his last what sixty four games,

1022
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:22,920
not so much. But he goes up in the NHL

1023
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,920
ranking poll against Oliver Bonk sixty seven point five to

1024
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,599
thirty two point five wins. Bischel am I crazy. I

1025
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,280
vaguely remember on past jos, maybe about last year, that

1026
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,000
we were thinking that bank was going to be more

1027
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,519
than a Bonker and more than just an amusing name.

1028
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:39,719
He seemed to be on the right up. But I

1029
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,960
feel like Bischel's ceiling is captain in the environment, so

1030
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,280
I was a little surprised to see the blowout in this,

1031
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,719
but maybe it's because Bank has not quite put up

1032
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,599
is maybe not quite the same performance in the A

1033
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,599
this year as he'd been putting up previous to that.

1034
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,199
What do you think of this comparison and what do

1035
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,199
you think of Liam Bishel?

1036
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:03,119
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know if that accurately categorizes what I

1037
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:05,559
thought about Bonk. I think that he had shown some

1038
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:08,199
promise in London where he played last year. He was

1039
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,320
getting really strange deployment playing the bumper. They called him

1040
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,960
Bumper Bank on the power play, so he doesn't even

1041
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,760
really have experience running a power play. He's definitely he's

1042
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,679
not the bashiest guy, but he doesn't have the best

1043
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,000
foot speed in transition, So it's like, what are you

1044
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,920
at the NHL level? He certainly has the bloodlines there

1045
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,480
with Radibunk, but is he going to be a no

1046
00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:30,880
doubt NHL or I don't think so. And I don't

1047
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,199
think he's going to be a scorer. I don't know

1048
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,039
he's going to be a basher. So then what is

1049
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:35,679
he just a depth guy? I have him at a

1050
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,000
four point eighty five and my puck stood ranking. You

1051
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:40,519
look at the fancy hockey life skater card and there's

1052
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:42,159
just a lot of red and purple everywhere. He's not

1053
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,320
doing so well in the AHL, and so that's interesting

1054
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,719
in terms of the underlyings. Eleven points in twenty seven

1055
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,639
games is not awful, but it is certainly not blowing

1056
00:53:51,639 --> 00:53:55,360
the doors down making sure that he's gonna get an opportunity.

1057
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,159
So he needs to improve that a little bit. He

1058
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,920
had some physicality before, but it has materialized at the

1059
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,559
pro level, so it'll be interesting to see what happens there.

1060
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,480
Bischel is yeah, and I mentioned this before. He had

1061
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:11,239
said Bixel in the past, but he's decided it's Bishal

1062
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,960
and he's gonna go by Bischel. Okay, he is absolutely

1063
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,079
a guy who wins you your hits categories. You might

1064
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:19,920
not even have known who he was, but once you

1065
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,000
sort by hits per game, and if you're in a

1066
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,840
category is linking that checks Perferroles, you know about him.

1067
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,199
He's three plus hits per game. The guy's incredible. In fact,

1068
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,079
last season he was closer to four and a half

1069
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:35,440
almost five hits per game, so that's incredible. I wonder

1070
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,199
what that Swiss team would have been like with him

1071
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,119
at the Olympics. That would have been a really interesting place,

1072
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:42,360
and I think he would have made the team, but

1073
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,119
he was injured. As you said, Yeah, I think that

1074
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,159
he's he's but is he going to do more than

1075
00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:47,880
that is a question, and I would say no. I

1076
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,599
think he's basically just Bixel is just a basher. His

1077
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,519
even strength defense is actually not so good, a little

1078
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:55,920
bit lower than average. Some of his foot speed and

1079
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,639
transition struggles a little bit. But I think you could

1080
00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:00,840
probably get himself up to average and then he'll just

1081
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,239
basically be a hitter and someone who doesn't score a lot.

1082
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,440
He has fourteen points in sixty seven games. I don't

1083
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,840
know if that's going to change too much throughout his career.

1084
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,639
He's probably not gonna be a big scorer. But the

1085
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:14,800
guy is huge. He's six seven, two hundred and forty pounds,

1086
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:20,239
so huge, big reach, physical guys are really gonna worry

1087
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,679
coming down the flank on him. So I'm definitely taking

1088
00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:25,880
Bixel here. He's already or sorry, bischeal He's already in

1089
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,519
the NHL. He's hitting a lot, and at least he's

1090
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:32,559
already there compared to Bonk, So if someone had Bonk,

1091
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,639
or if someone had Bichel and you wanted to give Bonk,

1092
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:38,400
I definitely would. I would make that trade, and I

1093
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,719
would rather have bischeal Jesse.

1094
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 3: Okay, very good. Let's move on to our next guy,

1095
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,440
Mel Heming. We also talked about a meal Heming on

1096
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,639
our World Juniors episodes. I remember my my feeling coming

1097
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:55,000
out of it was okay, good but not great. Not

1098
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,159
that he's absolutely blown it away, but if you look

1099
00:55:59,199 --> 00:56:03,480
at his staff, he's looking pretty good in the OHL.

1100
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:06,000
He's enjoyed since he came back from the World Juniors,

1101
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:09,159
a three to four and a five point game up

1102
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,119
in the OHL for the Barry Colts, and he missed

1103
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,280
the number of games, but his point per game pace

1104
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,000
of one point four to seven on the season, Emil

1105
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:21,320
Heming is fifth in the OHL for the reasonably full

1106
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,199
time players in there. Now screwed out the two game

1107
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:29,440
type guys but Victor in this NHL ranking poll. But

1108
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:32,679
beyond to Meil Heming, I won an entire episode next

1109
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:37,159
week dedicated to this guy, Benjamin route Tynan. It would

1110
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:40,400
help if I learned to recognize his name, because what

1111
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,960
the heck, Victor, He's been picked up in all my

1112
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:46,760
leagues and I see why, because Benjamin rout Tynan is

1113
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,519
putting up amazing freaking numbers in Liga this year. As

1114
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:54,239
a matter of fact, his sixty eight points is sixth

1115
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,960
clear of the next highest score in the league, and

1116
00:56:57,199 --> 00:57:00,159
that's tied for thirtieth in the history of LIGA. With

1117
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,079
seven games to go, he's been scoring one point three

1118
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:05,480
to one points per game. Let's give him ten more

1119
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:08,039
points for the last seven games, he would tie for

1120
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:12,199
the fifth all time scoring in Liga. The only twenty

1121
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,559
year old season even in the top eighty right now,

1122
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:19,400
and again rat Tainan is already there. The only twenty

1123
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,280
year old season or below is Saku Koivu seventy four

1124
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,079
and nineteen ninety five. I just got chills, Victor. And

1125
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:30,079
yet within this poll fifty three to forty seven percent

1126
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:35,239
over once again a late round Tampa steel in rat Tan, Victor,

1127
00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:37,360
I guess we got to talk about Amel Heming, But

1128
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,679
tell me about the other guy too.

1129
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, and I believe it's pronounced Rotianen. Rotianen is see.

1130
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to say his name yet, Victor,

1131
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,039
And he's putting up historic numbers Route Rotianan. Is that

1132
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:54,719
what you just said?

1133
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: ROTI aen Roti Ininen.

1134
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: Roti Ininen. All right, we're there.

1135
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he bottom line, the TLDR version is pause

1136
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:06,719
the pod and go check if Roti and is in

1137
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,280
your league, because you definitely want him. It's our AUTIAI

1138
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:16,440
any end. Benjamin Routainan he is. Yeah. Tampa took him

1139
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,800
in the fourth round this year, which I believe was

1140
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,679
their first pick. I don't think they have many for

1141
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:24,079
a few round picks anymore. But apparently they got the

1142
00:58:24,119 --> 00:58:26,519
memo of just hey, go swing for a home run,

1143
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:29,239
and apparently that's what they got because the guy is

1144
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,199
absolutely killing it. As you said, he was original draft

1145
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:35,480
year was twenty twenty three. He's a double overrager and

1146
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,639
that draft year he was in the U twenty league,

1147
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:40,079
didn't do too great. The following year, he had sixty

1148
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:42,519
two points in thirty six games for the U twenty version.

1149
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:45,519
Could have gotten drafted as a later pick. Apparently he

1150
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:48,079
was small. I couldn't figure out exactly how big he

1151
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,239
was back then, but he was a little bit on

1152
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:52,400
the smaller side. He is now six foot twenty eighty three,

1153
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,199
so he's not super small. But then last season he

1154
00:58:56,679 --> 00:58:58,800
jumped to the Legua at thirty three points in fifty games,

1155
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,519
and that got him drafted. He also played a pretty

1156
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:03,400
decent role for the Finns at the U twenty World

1157
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,159
Junior Championships last season, and that's what Tampa saw. They

1158
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:09,239
drafted him with the fourth round pick. And all he's

1159
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,679
doing this season, as you said, leading Liga. I got

1160
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:14,800
a little bit of info from our FHL scout, Yarno,

1161
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,280
who goes by Amalad and he plays the Britannian plays

1162
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,000
for his favorite team, the Tapata, and so got a

1163
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,840
little bit of info from him who watches all these

1164
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,719
games very closely and definitely mentions that he's an intelligent

1165
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,880
player and someone who excels in the offensive zone and

1166
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,199
plays with deception. He's also really versatile. Part of the

1167
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:39,679
issues that might limit him is that he's not that

1168
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,440
fast and needs to improve on some of that edgework

1169
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,960
and invasiveness. He's also not very physical and not so

1170
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:50,000
great defensively, so those are some things to think about

1171
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:54,519
with rutaining, but he's absolutely someone who you want to

1172
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:57,440
go grab and people are already starting to wonder if

1173
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,440
he could come over as early as next season or

1174
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,079
at the end of this league season and I think

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it's possible with the Tampa and the availability to loan

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him over here, so maybe we see him sooner than later.

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He's he's June birthday, so he'll be twenty one this summer.

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Not crazy young, but definitely young enough. But it's certainly

1179
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old enough to get a look here there see what

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they have. I don't know what the development plan is

1181
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:22,639
after this. Maybe he comes to the Aho, but I

1182
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:27,280
definitely would rather have routiern In. He looks much more

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01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:31,719
plausible as a top prospect, and the fact that he

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is in the Tampa system, which is just pretty awful

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in general, so I think you have to be excited

1186
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about that and go check and see if he's in

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any of your leagues and if he isn't, sorry, but

1188
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:43,679
he isn't in a lot of ours either. A lot

1189
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of people have scooped him up after he's been going off.

1190
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,039
But yeah, he's definitely definitely one of the biggest risers

1191
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:52,440
because he's someone didn't even really have him on my ranks.

1192
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,840
He's now twenty fifth on my ranks. Routin an In

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01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,559
I have him at a six point eighty seven. Is

1194
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:00,320
it going to be Saku Koivu? Level of impact probably not.

1195
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:03,519
He certainly looks tracking to be well above average. His

1196
01:01:03,679 --> 01:01:07,159
fantasy hockea Life Skater card has some pretty good numbers.

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01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:10,039
He is play driving, some of his transition numbers look

1198
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really good. He doesn't bash much. He shoots a lot,

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,760
but he doesn't really hit her block very much. And

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he's definitely got a good shot, that's one of his

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01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:20,360
best attributes, and a really good playmaker, so it's going

1202
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,400
to get you, hopefully a lot of points. Heming, on

1203
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,320
the other hand, six point one five is what I

1204
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,239
have him at, so a little bit lower. I still

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01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,039
like Hemming, and I liked some of the improvements that

1206
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:34,280
we've seen from him since coming over and being in

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the OHL. He's looked pretty good for Barry. He looked

1208
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:40,199
good at the U twenties this year. And his little brother,

1209
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:42,840
Oscar is in this draft, so that'll be interesting to

1210
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,440
see where Oscar Hemming goes in the twenty twenty six draft.

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But yeah, Hemming I still like, But I like routian

1212
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,079
in a little bit better, and you got to go

1213
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get him if you can. Basically, that's the bottom line.

1214
01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:54,440
And I definitely would prefer him in this poll, which

1215
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,840
is interesting because, as you said, Hemming won by a

1216
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,880
little bit. More people need to know about routin An

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01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,199
in Ys.

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Speaker 3: The man wants to etche that name in your kitchen table.

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01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,119
Last Victor, we got one more guy in. It's goalie

1220
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:10,480
Arno Tiefensi. He is the backup at AHL Texas to

1221
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:16,960
longtime HL Texas stalwart Remy Poitier, the starting goalie down

1222
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,679
there in Tifensi. I believe, I believe he's a German.

1223
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,960
Somebody's got to start for the Germans in the twenty

1224
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:25,639
thirty four Olympics. Maybe it'll be him. He's got reasonable

1225
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,920
numbers this year in the AHL. He's even been loaned

1226
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:32,480
to the Idaho Steelheads, probably just to get some time

1227
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:35,840
since he's not the starter at the AHL. He's been

1228
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,960
doing fine. We're gonna put him up against the guiney

1229
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:42,360
Volokan of the Montreal Canadians. As we've talked earlier this episode,

1230
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:46,199
Montreal's got a pretty stacked goalie system right now. Maybe

1231
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:49,239
not a Sir Gaybobrovski at the top, but certainly three

1232
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:53,119
pretty potent goalies working their way up are already up.

1233
01:02:53,679 --> 01:02:57,079
But over in Spartak Moskva in the KHL and in

1234
01:02:57,159 --> 01:03:00,639
various levels the Russian systems. If Geney Volok is playing

1235
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:04,639
his wares and he was drafted thirteen picks ahead of

1236
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:10,119
Defensi in that draft, Volocan wins this poll fifty eight

1237
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:13,119
to forty two percent. What can you tell us about

1238
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:15,239
these two up and coming goalies?

1239
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,719
Speaker 2: I did. I got a chance to see Tfanc when

1240
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,000
I went to a goals game, and I thought I

1241
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,119
was impressed. I thought he was good. He definitely was

1242
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:26,719
a better goalie in that game. He really good, positionally,

1243
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,480
solid reaction, read the play really well. I don't think

1244
01:03:29,519 --> 01:03:31,639
he was He impressed me in the sense that I

1245
01:03:31,679 --> 01:03:33,840
didn't really know much about him or think much of

1246
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,800
him as a prospect. He didn't always have the best numbers,

1247
01:03:38,199 --> 01:03:41,760
and he was Germans playing in the DL for Adler Manheim,

1248
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,079
which is a good program. But just didn't really know

1249
01:03:44,199 --> 01:03:46,400
much about him or know his style too much. And

1250
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,119
he was good, and he's got good numbers this year,

1251
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:49,880
even though he's had to go down to the ECCHL

1252
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,079
for a playing time. I like him better than Remy Poirier,

1253
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:55,920
who's the other goalie. There's interesting. I've talked about him

1254
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,400
with kat As well, and we agreed that wasn't super

1255
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:03,079
excited with Prio. Well, he's getting more of the reps

1256
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:05,599
as it stands right now, but I would prefer def

1257
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:10,119
and C there. Volocan is interesting. Montreal already has some

1258
01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:12,920
really good goalies. They don't really need him, but it's

1259
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,639
always its fine. This is one of those things where

1260
01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:16,400
don't worry about the guys ahead of h. I'm sure

1261
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,239
Debesh Montebo de Beese and Jacob Fowler are a head

1262
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,079
of Volocan, but don't let that dissuade you. He looks

1263
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:25,760
really solid. He's got good size, sixty three one seventy.

1264
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,079
He's playing primarily in the VHL right now in Russia,

1265
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:31,440
he has gotten a couple of KHL games. In fact,

1266
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,000
he played more in the KHL last season. Unload Tsoci.

1267
01:04:34,639 --> 01:04:39,119
He's in the Spartak Maksva program and hasn't looked so

1268
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:41,840
great in the KHL this season, but it looks stellar

1269
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,800
in the VHL. And but he's twenty and got to

1270
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,679
give him time. He looks like he might have a

1271
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:48,360
little bit more upside than Def and C. Will see

1272
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,679
when and if he comes over. So I think Volocan

1273
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,360
probably has more upside, But I might like def and C,

1274
01:04:54,719 --> 01:04:57,559
especially if you're looking for someone who can compete a

1275
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:00,239
little bit sooner. He might have the inside track being

1276
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,639
closer to being nhlready and being over here already. But

1277
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,159
these guys are pretty similar. I would base my decision

1278
01:05:07,199 --> 01:05:09,719
based on how close I was to being competitive. If

1279
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,159
I could wait, I'd probably take Volocan, But if I

1280
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:15,239
wanted someone to be relevant sooner, it would be defencye Jesse.

1281
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,119
Speaker 3: All Right, that's our tour through Dallas, Victor. Any final

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words to say before we get out of here.

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good series and we'll be finishing that up this season

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with a couple more episodes on the podcast.

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