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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number two of TB
one O four five ESPN Baton Rouge, and it is
now time for the nineteenth right team on the oh
TB Top twenty five.
Speaker 4: Let's get a quick recap here.
Speaker 3: Coming in at number twenty five, it is Boise State,
the Broncos at number twenty four, the Memphis Tigers at
number twenty three, the Baylor Bears at number twenty two,
the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets at twenty one, the Tennessee Volunteers,
and at number twenty the Iowa State Cyclones. And now
it is Matthew Clayton Lin.
Speaker 5: Let's turn for the listeners all around the world, all
around the globe, the much anticipated drop of the nineteenth
ranked team and the OTV Top twenty five preseason poll.
We're gonna keep it with a school that has traditions
like no others. They are a team that inspires. They
are a team that likes to get together and just
yell at midnight before games. So we're gonna keep it
within the great state of Texas. I went to Waco
last week for the twenty third ranked team, Taylor Bears.
We're gonna keep it in the lone star state in
the SEC number nineteen.
Speaker 2: Texas A and M.
Speaker 3: Uh sounded way too, way too natural for you, Bud,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Actually, did you know?
Speaker 5: There's a tradition on campus that if the I can't
remember the name of the dog, it's a collige of
a Yeah, if he if he goes into your classroom smoke, Wait,
what if he goes into your classroom during the day?
Is that he even barks? If she barks in class?
That's what I said, doesn't sure.
Speaker 6: Texas A and M fans.
Speaker 7: Texas A and M fans would be ones to get
mad about that.
Speaker 5: In offense, they would be, uh, yeah, if he she
barks in your classroom and you're dismissed, you got to
go home.
Speaker 2: So it's not a big deal. Yeah, I didn't know
this Home of the twelfth Man.
Speaker 3: Only the things I know about Texas A and M
or Dan Campbell, Billy Luchon.
Speaker 5: But the twelfth Man is a pretty cool I think
we can all agree it's a pretty cool tradition. If
you don't know about it, I don't even know if
they really still do it. I think it started back
in war times, back.
Speaker 4: In the time, like having a player wear twelve.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you said, yeah, they would have all yo
as a walk on things. So you tried out for
the twelfth Man. It was a guy that like May
sometimes I didn't Eve play football, played high school fotball.
But it was a tradition that started like back in
the war with a lot of people were deployed and
fighting for a country. Blah blah blah. But a really
cool tradition then. But that's not why they're nineteen. They're
nineteenth because I think they're pretty darn good this year.
They got a lot of talent. Of course, they have
the goat strength coach mister Tommy Moffett.
Speaker 2: They got a really good defense this year. Yeah, they
are very hydrated.
Speaker 5: I believe that Marcel Reid has a potential to be good.
Like the guys from tech SAgs at SEC Media Day
really talking up, talking them up, and they're spring trainings
and things like that, So I don't know. We've seen obviously,
we saw him do a lot of damage against LSU
as a change up coming in the second half. Le'Veon
mos one of the best running backs in the SEC.
Speaker 4: If he's healthy, he could be a first team type guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen him. He's from Ben Rouge. I've
seen him do it for a long time. Hell's going
to be, you know, obviously an issue for him. Probably
their strongest position group room though, is running back with
Moss Owens Daniels.
Speaker 4: Uh, They've got E J. Smith that is Emmi Smith's son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're pretty they're they're locked at that position.
Speaker 5: And I do remember I remember maffitt say talking to
him and he's like, because they've they've recruited really well
at Texas, especially on the defense, and he's like, man,
they just got some really talented, big, fast, strong folks
on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2: So they're going to be a strong defense.
Speaker 5: And you know they're gonna they're nineteenth there and no
we're in the SEC, and they're going to be a
tough out, especially if Marcel Reid can take a next
steps as a passer, it's yeah, they're going to be
a very dangerous team. So that's that's going to be.
To me, the key focal point. Mike Elco He's I
think he's probably a pretty pretty darn good coach. So yeah, yeah,
we'll see, We'll see what happens with them. That's why
of the nineteenth because they have the potential, yeah, and
the talent and especially if Marcel Reid does improve as
a passer to you know, at the end of the year,
maybe be ranked higher than that.
Speaker 3: One name to pay attention to for SEC fans that
are going to be watching Texas A and M and
maybe you don't watch another conference. Casey concept you on
coming over from n C State. He is a baller.
He is somebody that is a jack of all trades.
Like whatever you need him to do, he can do it.
At NC State, he lined up in the backfield, he
lined up wildcat quarterback, he lined up in the slot outside.
Speaker 4: He is all over the place.
Speaker 3: Now, he got hurt last year, so he didn't have
the year that he had the year before. But he
was on the All Meathead team a year ago. He
was our all purpose offensive play. He is somebody that
can really be a mismatch for you if you put
him in the right spots. So you're gonna know his name,
and if he stays healthy, he's gonna be a big weapon.
He's not gonna be there like you know, go to
leading receiver that's gonna look like a Sunday player. He's
just that guy that is so annoying because anytime you
think you have him stopped, they're gonna come up with something.
Get him the football and he's going to convert it
into a first down. So Casey concept you on certainly
a name to pay attention to. When it comes to
the Aggies, there big trip for them and taity, I
know you've got thoughts on the Aggies, but a big
trip for them. It's wild that they play in the SEC,
but their first three SEC games are all at home.
I don't think an SEC game is the most important
game on their schedule. I think going to Notre Dame
is their most important game because if you win that,
knowing you have three home games to start off your
SEC slate, that can really get you going in the
right direction.
Speaker 4: The momentum for that could be huge for the Aggies.
When you look at their most difficult games.
Speaker 3: I think you have to go on the road to Missouri,
you have to come to LSU. That is going to
be probably the toughest part of their schedule. But as
far as SEC schedules go, you like the way they
get it started, certainly so that Notre Dame game feels
like a massive one.
Speaker 7: I mean, just look at how those two team seasons win.
A year ago, Notre Dame came to Kyle Field, they
won that game. Notre Dame made the College Football Playoff
like Texas A and M, if things fall their way,
do I think they're going to They're probably gonna go
eight and four, but they have the potential to do it.
This team, like you mentioned Auburn, Mississippi State, Florida all
at home, you could win and probably will be favored
in all three of those games. Arkansas on the road
your favored there, Like you could potentially be seven and
oh coming to baton Rudge October twenty fifth.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 7: That's the type of season Texas A and M could
have and you split the rest of your games. You're
nine and three.
Speaker 3: What are you laughing at?
Speaker 5: You're talking about the A and M mascot Revelly, she
barks in your classroom, you get dismissed, and somebody in
the chat said, what happens at TCU? Quarterback Josh Huper
barks class.
Speaker 8: Real quick.
Speaker 9: I just got a message from a listener, Adam Cheney.
He says, I'm still trying to figure out how to
enter the chat.
Speaker 8: Lol. I have a lot I would like.
Speaker 9: To say, slash interact with my fellow meatheads about Oh,
mark words, he says, mark my words, this is.
Speaker 8: Going to be a special season. Wait, I had to
restart the special season.
Speaker 9: Everything around this program has a different look, vibe, and
feel about it. Not saying it will be the equivalent,
but feels a lot like the twenty nineteen team's mindset,
with even deeper talent on both sides of the ball.
Adam shout out, thank you for using the speak up
feature on our app.
Speaker 8: Literally, just go to YouTube and we're live, and then
the chat just pops up. It's like you.
Speaker 4: Just type in one of four five ESPN and then
you'll see.
Speaker 5: If you want to type you if you want to
like participate, you have to sign up, have.
Speaker 8: A YouTube account.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you also have to subscribe to one of four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of steps.
Speaker 4: You can do it, though, I believe in you, Adam.
Speaker 5: So to wrap up this nineteen thing, if you're an
A and M fan out there and you're listening, a
lot to be hopeful for, a lot to be excited
about potential all around you. So if you're a fan,
put on your onesie white body jumpsuit, short sleeve, roll
up the sleeves even higher, put your thumb up or
put your hands on your hips and yell woo a
lot and do quarter push ups every time your team scores.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 4: Get carried into a fountain.
Speaker 5: And then get buried in the fountain. And maybe once
or twice a year you wear dumb little overalls and
make terrible jokes. Oh so bad.
Speaker 4: I feel like we have.
Speaker 3: We haven't made fun of that portion of it to
Moffitt enough yet, probably because in the back of our
mind we're still a little nervous that he'll make us
run one tens.
Speaker 2: If we do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, I've also forget put a towel in your
back pocket as well. Look, we make that's an important
part of the universe. We make fun of the fountain.
Speaker 7: Worst part about Texas A and M that's actually cooler
than their baseball tradition of blowing bubbles after every win.
Speaker 2: Mmm, you know, tradition is a great thing.
Speaker 6: Bubbles is bad.
Speaker 5: Tradition is a great thing. That's what makes college football great.
And making fun of them is a tradition like none other.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, where are you going with this?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: I didn't know, you know, since they're so hydrated, I
didn't know if you were nervous to do so you
ever see the one that go I don't know a
lot about it. I'm serious. I went to camp, so
I would go to the football camp campbells Out.
Speaker 5: I would go to the football camps in the summer
like like you do, like you I was in Texas.
I would go to the Baylor, the and M the Texas.
I'd go to all those football camps in middle school
and high school. And yeah, I think in multiple of
the camps at A and M, like they'd have the
yell leaders come and like talk through the aggy traditions
and like what all their yells are about?
Speaker 10: And I was.
Speaker 2: I remember, like as an eighth grader thinking like this
is dumb.
Speaker 3: I don't think you had to be in eighth grade
to know that, but I'm glad you realized it before
it's too late.
Speaker 5: Even at that age, you're very impressionable. Second, I mean
you did think puka shells are cool. Still are, but
even at that time, I thought that the yell leaders
were not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pukashell hates to see me coming well each tips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 3: Anybody, anybody got any son in we'll do it right now.
Speaker 4: All right, when we come back.
Speaker 3: There is a player on LSU's defense that is going
to be as important as any player in the country
to one side of the ball for his team, and
we're going to break down that player. I know Tatay's
got thoughts on this player as well, and we'll do
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Speaker 4: This reminds me Little Ridgewood Middle School.
Speaker 3: Whatever dance it was might have been Sadie Hawkins, might
have just been the fall dance, the initial fall dance.
Going to middle school for the first time, you didn't have,
you know, dances, school dances in elementary school. Little Brandy
and Monk are playing. Now nobody's dancing because the boys
are in this corner, the girls are in that corner.
There was great intention to get into the middle and
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Speaker 3: Uh screen name real quick before we get to uh
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ball eleven?
Speaker 2: What is it? We our two? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you talking about throwing the football? Person that complained
about us?
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Speaker 3: Quarterback deep vice wi its singular, not plural, throw the football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why it is in that order as well.
But flipping the two.
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Speaker 5: But at the time, like I was, I think I
was seventh eighth grade, and I was like, that's every
time I wantch priactice.
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Speaker 9: What was it?
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is kind of cool.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: So there is a player on LSU's defense that could
be as important as any player in the country to
his team, certainly defensively. Field Still Magazine, the Great field Still,
where you can find the all Meatthead team on page
number three as well, ranks this player as the top
outside linebacker for the twenty twenty six NFL Draft. Surprise,
surprise that player. Nope, not Lance Harbor. It is Harold Perkins,
number one on the list. Now, he is somebody that
we've talked more about than maybe any defensive player over
the last ten years. Freshman year, we know what it was.
He took over games. He won, you the Arkansas game
like single Handley won the Arkansas game. He had, you know,
four sacks, force fumble like he did everything. The offense
didn't do anything, and Perk made up for it. We
all remember him spying Bryce Young. Bryce Young used to
have that little stutter step move. They got every linebacker
in the country. Perk laughed at it, tracked him down
tackle for loss. He was a man possessed. Now we've
also talked about his position. He can't live on the edge.
He just it's it's not what he's built to do. Now.
He can, he can dabble, he can you know, he
can line up there every once in a while. It's
a great change of pace. But you know, talking with
Jimbo Fisher, who was the head coach at A and M,
He's like, look at Perk lived on the edge of
that year, and we're like, okay, well he's a really
good player, but he's two hundred and twenty pounds. We're
going to game plan to run at a two hundred
and twenty pound player where we have a combo block
with a tight end and a tackle. So that's what
teams were doing. It's not, you know, sliding Perkins at all.
Perkins is an incredible player. I think he's gonna play
a long time on Sundays. It's finding the right spot,
play a little stack linebacker right that position. It's not
all about how big, fast and strong you are. Right
there's things like reading guards and reading running backs and
like that. If you haven't done it your whole life,
it can be difficult. I think the star position, which
is a nickel sam in this defense, is perfect for him.
I think he has great coverage skills. You look at
the Pro Football Focus grades. He's always his entire career
had great coverage numbers. Grades. You can still and Matt
you know this, Like when you rush a nickel off
the edge, he can be disruptive. And think about a
running back having to come across the formation to block
a full speed Harold Perkins, like that is a scary
thought for a running back. As far as setting the edge.
That's gonna have to be something that like you're gonna
have your edge defender as well, but like he's gonna
be able to be a little bit more free because
he's not gonna be that edge defender, right, He's gonna
be able to set the edge coming downhill. I love
the move for him. LSU has to have him be
a dog. He has to be a version of what
we saw him be his freshman year, and we have
to remember, even if it doesn't show up in sacks,
he is a player that can help them in coverage,
in the run game and also getting after the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 5: Harold Perkins has been this puzzle for defensive coordinators defensive
coaches to figure out where his piece fits. Because when
it fits, it's incredible. When it doesn't fit, it doesn't
stick out. That's that's with any position and trying to
find it's the coaching job to find the timing and
how to use talent. And my god, does this guy
have talent just oozing out of him right? And it
just kind of like body type size puts him as
this kind of tweener guy.
Speaker 2: Like what do we do? How do we get the
most out of him.
Speaker 5: I don't agree that the star Nicol Sam is the
place for him every down and distance. Maybe first down,
maybe second down.
Speaker 4: He'll move to the edge some for sure, But you're.
Speaker 5: Also doing a disservice to something that he has proved
as a freshman that he can be a lead at,
which is spying the quarterback. You can't do that as
from Nichol Sam. You can't do that from defensive end
as much. So it's up to Blake Baker in the
defensive stats to figure out how to utilize him with that.
Because this year you're gonna have to have it. You're
gonna have to have it Game one. You're gonna have
to have it. You have to have Harold Perkins stalking
Clay k club Day. Would you would he got four
or five quarterbacks that he is gonna be a key
factor and he doesn't do at Nicol Sam like you're
gonna got is Like, you can't do that at Nicol Sam.
So and in third down passing situations, he doesn't need
to play Nickel Sam. Yeah, Okay, he's serviceable in coverage,
he's good, he's he's a good athlete. Nah, he needs
to he needs to be putting a move on a
on a tackle. He needs to be putting a move
on a tight end staying in like I get, I
get the theory of like, yeah, put it'd be really
cool to see him coming off the edge and like
being lined up one on one with the back. Yeah,
that'd be cool because he's gonna win that battle. But
I think from a play and playout situation, he needs
to be attacking the quarterback on passing situations or in
a lot of these games that we're gonna need it
spying the quarterback. You can find a lot of serviceable
guys that can line up in coverage, but to do
have his his his his skill set is rare.
Speaker 3: No, I agree with you. But here here's the question,
and kind of the devil's advocate, I'll throw back at you.
What Weeks is pre damn athletic too, And I think
he can also be a quarterback spy. So if you
were the defensive coordinator, knowing you have two guys that
can do it, don't you have to come up with
a game plan that's going to feature both of those guys.
So you don't know, hey, this is going to be
the quarterback spy and you can be really creative, and
then it puts a lot of pressure on whatever linebackers
next to what weeks because then you've got some things
that you've got to do. You're can have more space,
and that could be West weeks, it could be divine keys.
But the fact that you do have two guys that
can do it, don't you need to be able to
utilize that to your advantage as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 5: Certainly a luxury to haven't and you have two guys
that can do I mean, we're calling it a spy.
Like sometimes it's not like actually declared a spy. It's
just a guy's told to all right, you have you
have you're the hook player here, you're the curl flat,
you're the curl player here. Whatever it is as a linebacker,
like inside zone defensive terminology, like sometimes it's like, all right,
let's speak faster to react to a quarterback this time.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not.
Speaker 5: Maybe sometimes sometimes it is a spine like Harrold Perkers,
like as a legit spy Verse Price Young, but it.
Speaker 2: Is it is like it is electory to happen old.
Speaker 3: In the next year. I just said, nah, it's not
a good idea against it.
Speaker 5: It's just like I sell with you fans, we're pulling
our hair out sometimes we're watching the defense out there
because you got a quarterback scrambling around for thirteen seconds
and then he makes the first down runs for twelve
yards on left side of the field, and you got
Harold Perkins covering the curl flat on the right side
of the field.
Speaker 2: Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 4: He didn't to be carl flat.
Speaker 5: He doesn't need to be doing the curl flat on
the far side of the field that quarterbacks are running around.
Speaker 3: For twelve So I agree. I agree there's gonna be
certain game plans, and again I do think like the
star position as far as where he's going to live
on first and second down.
Speaker 4: I like that position for him.
Speaker 3: But I also agree with you, and it's a great
point that if you're playing one of these quarterbacks and
you're gonna play multiple guys, Kay Klutman, we talked about it.
Over five hundred rushing yards, Diego Pavia can change a
game and his is not gonna be design quarterback runs.
I think it's even more important against a guy like that.
I think I thought wit weeks that are really notice
shobbled on him a year ago old Miss Arkansas. Remember
how good wit was last year against Arkansas and Taylor Green, Like,
you have multiple guys that can do it, but you
have to be better against elite running quarterbacks. And I
think you're gonna face some You might not face the
athletic ability of a Jayla Millroe on this schedule, because
like that was his strongest suit, that he's a track guy.
Speaker 4: We saw how that went. But you're gonna face face
a lot.
Speaker 3: You're gonna face more of them, Yes, you face in
the totality of the schedule. I think it's gonna be
more of a five good ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Mattier at Oklahoma, Oh yeah, I mean he rushed for
I think four hundred plus yards a year ago. If
I'm not hell, Actually I think it was a lot more.
I think he was like closer to seven hundred or something.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is somebody.
Speaker 3: Again like John Mitchier's gonna have design quarterback runs, but
also like he's gonna have some improv and he's gonna
like Sady and Diego Pavia.
Speaker 4: So that position, whoever that ends up being, is going
to be as important as anybody.
Speaker 5: And what you said you said about interviewing Jimbo Fisher
years ago, Like they're like, all right, well, yeah, he's
a great player, great rusher, but let's just run right
out of him, because I guys, a younger player just
didn't have to ask for right, Like he's just skinny fast.
I mean he's nineteen twenty years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know his measurables right now, but.
Speaker 4: Your head eight hundred and twenty six yards okay.
Speaker 6: With sex fifteen touchdowns on the ground.
Speaker 3: I think it was a big number. I didn't know
was that eight twenty six Yeah.
Speaker 5: Like I'm Harold's passing the eyeball test. I don't know
what his measurables are compared to years before. Yeah, but
he looks like got a little bit more muscle, got
a little bit bigger, like I we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: What happens with that.
Speaker 5: But but earlier in his days, yeah, you could just
line up if he was playing that defensive end hand
in the dirty, you could run around at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think that will probably change as he continues to
progress in his career.
Speaker 3: Again, one of the things, like, if you're having this conversation,
we're talking about, you know, spying a quarterback, making sure
the running quarterback doesn't go off on you. Again, Like, yes,
Harold Perkins is going to be very important. What weeks
is going to be very important because they're going to
be a sign to said quarterback. But also you have
to remember Devine Keys and West Weeks. Like whoever that
linebacker that you know gets left on the island, he's
used to having a pot in the next to him.
It's kind of like we always talk about, like when
you play tackle, you're on an island. We play guard.
You got some bodyguards, so that player it's it's a
trickle down effect like this. You talk about the totality
of a defense or an offense or whatever it might be.
And I'm excited about Devine Keys. Nobody's talked about him
in training camp. I haven't heard this show any show
talk about Devine Keys. But if you have a five
minute conversation with Blake Baker, he's going to bring up
de Vine Keys in the first two minutes. I think
we all forget how good he was a year ago
as a freshman. I mean he had big play after
big play. I mean you go back and you watch
the latter portion of the season, even in a game
against Florida and a loss, like he played really well
in that game. So like, that's a player that if
you're gonna do all these things that we talk about
with all these X factors in Weeks and Perkins, the
vine Keys and again Wes Week's gonna play as well,
They're gonna be as important as anybody to make sure
that you're able to do all the things we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 5: The more we we just kind of dive into the personnel,
the more that what I'm hearing and what we're all
saying is this is by far going to be the
best defense that we've had in the Brian Killer.
Speaker 3: So William said, well, Jacob, Jacob sounds weird. Maybe you
should give your on hyping him up. I know, but
nobody ever calls me that I got you, Willie. I'll
start that the vine Keys, let's go defense player of
the Year didn't say that he's really good and he
played really well as a freshman, and the deft coordinator
loves him. He is going to have a role on
this team. That might be the first time that anybody's mentioned.
And he played a lot last year he was. He
actually started at Star last year, like at the back
end of the season. They put him in that role.
Speaker 5: So how many yurs you'll say, John met your head
rushing over eight hundred, I'm re reading eight and fifty seven.
Speaker 2: Yep, pretty good. Eight fifty seventy. Don't include the sacks,
so to say.
Speaker 3: And again he's going to do it both ways. Design
quarterback runs and also just off the cuff there play
breaks down. He so real quick.
Speaker 4: He was so good at Wazoo.
Speaker 3: But he had cam Ward, who was the number one
pick in front of him that they did create that
package that I talked about where he was in the
backfield with cam Ward and they would hand the ball
off to him and he would throw it.
Speaker 4: They would fake it and you know, let him get
into the flats and they throw it to him. They
would They had one.
Speaker 3: Play where he's a running back, kim Ward catches it,
kind of wraps around and John Mattia would try to
throw it to cam Ward. I mean, they he was
a talent that they knew even though they had the
future number one overall pick, they had to integrate into
the game plan. And he's athletic enough to go back
there and do things like that. That's what we're talking about.
You might not have a Jaln Milroe, but you got
five dudes that can go out there and beat you
with their legs.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: John Mattier is like this, Like we know him because
he played and we just like you looked slated it
all out.
Speaker 2: He was behind cam.
Speaker 5: Ward and he's this guy that could end up being
real scary, could has the potential to. Now he might
just kind of he might just be a serviceable, good,
dangerous player that plays well, you know, eighty percent times.
It has some bad games, but he's got the talent
and the skill set. If Venables and the crew can
figure out how to call a good offense, yeah, which
they could not do a year ago. Their offense was
objectively bad. So it's which is weird for an Oklahoma
Sooner fanbase. I'm sure to have a not very good
offense and be at the bottom of the of the.
Speaker 3: Two Heisman Trophy quarterbacks and a runner up like in
a four year span.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and overall be at the bottom of your conference.
Speaker 5: So I think if they can utilize it and he
can carry over and the hype train is real with him,
he's got a chance to be pretty scary in this league.
Speaker 4: All right, we will take a break.
Speaker 3: It is football season, training camp pads, preseason games coming up.
Speaker 4: Certainly want to get to some New Orleans Saints talk.
Speaker 3: Got some good news? Wait, did I here?
Speaker 4: Let's give you here over there from the Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if the listeners heard it,
but I can. I can appreciate the fact that I
heard it with the headphones on. I get it.
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it. I mean it's a thirty.
Speaker 3: Second ran.
Speaker 8: Right pack right.
Speaker 9: There you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's excited, excited.
Speaker 8: About Spencer Rawler and his potential.
Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. We got something uh so and
also smelling salts.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're not banned. Stick around and find out O
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Speaker 3: I just need to know real quick before we move on.
Has R and B Thursdays made you enjoy R and
B music more?
Speaker 8: It's not that I didn't enjoy it, It just wasn't
like a go to for me. But yeah, I mean
I like it?
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I love Destiny's Child, I love Tlcright.
Speaker 8: I've told you all this. I love in Vogue.
Speaker 4: You do like the in Vogue?
Speaker 8: I just never play them because it feels like.
Speaker 3: A you do it after seven thirty five, Flynn, what's up?
R and B now kind of finding its way into
the playlist maybe a little bit more.
Speaker 5: No, not only normal playlist. But I've always liked it
all right, always like you might?
Speaker 1: You might?
Speaker 3: I mean yeah? True from Walker, Louisiana, how are you
feeling now about R and B?
Speaker 7: I don't mind taking in R and B on Thursday mornings.
Do I take it in outside of work?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 6: But I enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're getting there, baby steps.
Speaker 2: Everybody has to be like you.
Speaker 3: Who said that. I like to think, Alandro, could you
back me up here? I like to think that I
listened to all music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And that's what everybody should be. Everybody
should listen all.
Speaker 8: I think I listened to everything.
Speaker 2: What is the.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's like the one.
Speaker 8: But y'all know this about me. I don't really do
computer I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like mumble rap.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't like that either.
Speaker 6: So anything made after like twenty twelve year out, I.
Speaker 4: Mean well, I mean like it's like it's kind of
phasing out a little bit.
Speaker 3: Thank god, mumble.
Speaker 4: Oh jobsy will make an appearance, don't you worry.
Speaker 2: But I kind of just appreciate all types of music,
even the computer erated.
Speaker 8: Music, except for that that's like the one I just
cannot get behind.
Speaker 5: Computer generated m yeah, computer music, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I will say there was a big phase.
Speaker 5: I think it's kind of phasing out now, Like is
phase out where people's voices were just like so computer generated.
But I think more talented people are actually are the
ones becoming stars now, which yeah, nice, there's a I
feel like there was a pretty good stretch of time
where some very untalented.
Speaker 4: People, Oh for sure, we're the top. Yes, I feel
like it's.
Speaker 2: It's changed now. I feel like there's a lot more
talent out there.
Speaker 3: In which realm and all the realms. I think people
can make music pretty easy. I want easy.
Speaker 4: It's easier like podcasting at home.
Speaker 9: She made a very like we have a O T
b AI song, but it's like from when T Bob
was here, so we never play it anymore.
Speaker 2: I think I heard it. I think I remember hearing it.
Speaker 4: Got the smile, Yeah, I mean, did you drive off
the road when you heard it.
Speaker 6: I've been I've been called worse things.
Speaker 9: I would always randomly drop it and t BA would
be like, oh my god, it's a really bad song, like.
Speaker 6: Tab of all people. Seems like he would love that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 6: He was also scared of a I though.
Speaker 2: That's true, which she should be.
Speaker 3: Can we get a new O T B song like
a new AI Bilbo Baggins.
Speaker 8: Is that what he's like? A new AI one like
the one that.
Speaker 3: We're doing we play? Can we get an AI are
like early two thousand's R and B song for O
for O TV.
Speaker 8: Okay, I'll try to get it done today.
Speaker 2: Tell GBD to like make it good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, don't suck.
Speaker 8: Make it objectively easy, because.
Speaker 2: I wanted to do like one like each quarterback and
do a breakdown of Okay, so the quarterback.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The problem I have with AI and I don't know
how you don't onto this as much as you love it.
It's cheesy as hell.
Speaker 3: It is so cheesy, so cheesy, like the like the
rejoins that it tried to give us for this show,
Like I loathed them, five of them.
Speaker 5: I think it just depends on what application, Like when
if it's writing like a retirement speech, he.
Speaker 4: Actually did pretty good.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, sure as you should me too, so did
everybody listening.
Speaker 5: I've had multiple people stop me around town saying, hey, man,
that's on the retirement.
Speaker 3: Here's what we do. We get an O T B
because we got somebody in the chat says not an
R and B fan at all. Okay, here's what we do.
We get a country version, an R and B version.
What was it that you like?
Speaker 4: House music version?
Speaker 2: House music? Yeah, yeah, and music.
Speaker 3: We get trap music version, and then we get an
emo as a throwback to a Laundra's youth.
Speaker 9: Dude, I was so emo, like I had the you know,
like back in the day where girls would just dye
the bottom of their hair a different color.
Speaker 8: Do you know what I'm talking about, though, Yeah I do. Yeah,
I dyed the bottom of my hair pink.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that's not real goth.
Speaker 8: It kind of is like more emo, like seeing whatever
it was for Warped Tour.
Speaker 2: What's white? I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 9: It was like an emo tour that they it was
Vand's Warped Tour. And I went when I was like
in middle school and it was in San Antonio and
there's just a bunch of like emo bands and like
rock bands that go.
Speaker 8: But they brought it back this year.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 8: That's how That's how seen I was back in the day.
Speaker 5: From there, can we get one of the songs for
the OTB and like the popa roach style.
Speaker 6: Coas like pieces, it's perfect.
Speaker 3: I don't know if our getting a lot of text
messages from a lot of people, What is happened? Dad?
Speaker 4: I don't know if our you get no text about
the show? No, it's not about the show.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Our Poncho shot might have released and released a lot
of like text messages.
Speaker 4: I see also here in the chat somebody said something
about it.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, come see how.
Speaker 8: Good if the pictures came out good. I think it's
because I was in said.
Speaker 4: O TB made Oh look at us cheesing?
Speaker 7: Is it on Twitter?
Speaker 2: I don't know, had brother, Where did you find that?
It was like on an email?
Speaker 3: Okay, not the email, the email list. All right, all right,
let's take a break on Yeah, we'll do some what
are some research? See if we can throw those up there,
little research.
Speaker 2: I got it right here.
Speaker 3: More OTB when we come back one O four five
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