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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
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Speaker 2: me today is my usual Wednesday, Guy Blake, I you're
Speaker 2: from Southern Arizona, sports tourism and film with thy I
Speaker 2: know a bunch of other things. Why don't you promote
Speaker 2: the other stuff?
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got a Winter League coming right, I
Speaker 3: can't say too much yet or we're going to have
Speaker 3: a press conference on the eighteenth. It looks like, oh good,
Speaker 3: that will be all sent out. But yeah, we're working
Speaker 3: on that. We've got a big meeting tomorrow, gover comms
Speaker 3: and super exciting.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that it's kind of just dotting the eyes,
Speaker 2: crossing the t's and knowing what to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we had in our meeting last week. We
Speaker 3: spoke about it a little bit and we've got some
Speaker 3: talking points. But I think instead of me leading that charge,
Speaker 3: it'd be great if the ownership can do that and
Speaker 3: then all follow suit. And I think Sarah Horvata Ko
Speaker 3: is going to do the same. And but you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, let's face it, we haven't had a permanent
Speaker 3: anchor tenant at that kind of level of professional baseball
Speaker 3: at Keno since twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: Can you at least say when starting will happen? Start
Speaker 2: season starts in October? Okay, yeah, okay, great? You also
Speaker 2: have one his final days in Tucson. The last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks has been I've been emotional, Steve. I bet
Speaker 2: you're kidding because because leaving Okay, get you your favorite meal?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Call it the castle? What are you sad? As?
Speaker 3: I mean, has it it's set in obviously at this point,
Speaker 3: it's been something you've been working on. We tried to
Speaker 3: say it earlier last week and I got shut down
Speaker 3: immediately because we weren't able to say it publicly. But
Speaker 3: I mean, because from our standpoints, really exciting for whatever
Speaker 3: that opportunity may be, right, Yes, and it's a huge
Speaker 3: it's a huge chance, an opportunity for you. It's also
Speaker 3: just a huge move in life. So are you nervous
Speaker 3: a little bit? Have you lost any sleep over?
Speaker 2: No? Been more? Actually, how much has your mom cried?
Speaker 2: A lot? Oh?
Speaker 3: It's going to be but not as much as my brother. No,
Speaker 3: your brother's cried more. Oh yeah, I asked him that
Speaker 3: last week. It's going to be the he said, his brother,
Speaker 3: his brother.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised about that.
Speaker 3: Now, Steve, is that weird that his family likes him
Speaker 3: and yours doesn't like you? Is that still repeat that?
Speaker 3: I don't know your family situation to do it here,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's amazing, man, It's very exciting, very exciting, mean, Steve.
Speaker 6: Steve before the show asked me how many students, former students,
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call alumni have found a job
Speaker 6: within the field of journalism within my class? And I said, well,
Speaker 6: I can name one, maybe two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I asked you that question a couple of months ago, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not an easy field to get into.
Speaker 2: There was no jobs.
Speaker 3: The fact that you're doing it, I mean almost immediately
Speaker 3: after graduating is extremely impressive.
Speaker 2: I think you did it, probably not as right as
Speaker 2: you as I'd like, but you started early enough and
Speaker 2: twelve many times, as I tell you, did you get
Speaker 2: to apply for a job. Applying for a job because
Speaker 2: you got to beat out not just the people here,
Speaker 2: you got to beat the people out there too, uscs
Speaker 2: as hues blah blah blah because they're looking for jobs too.
Speaker 2: So no, good, good for you, Good for you. You'll
Speaker 2: you'll be fine. You'll be fine once you get there
Speaker 2: and you unload your stuff and you say, Okay, it's
Speaker 2: the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that first three months is a real mother and
Speaker 3: then after that, like you start to settle in and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's easy.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One, that's why you went to school. I mean, you
Speaker 2: went to school for a reason.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we talked about that's that's what I've been talking
Speaker 6: to my family. But I said, I want to do
Speaker 6: something with this.
Speaker 2: I want it.
Speaker 6: Might as well go for it now. It may not
Speaker 6: be what I'm doing in life, but I at least
Speaker 6: got to try.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, what did you want to do when
Speaker 2: you grew up? I want to be a professional baseball players? Okay?
Speaker 2: And you did?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but like that was that? That's your life?
Speaker 3: I mean that's a rare circumstances. Yeah, Like I never
Speaker 3: say enough.
Speaker 2: You'll do that kind of You can even latched onto
Speaker 2: a professional team If.
Speaker 3: I don't have that interest in me, I just knew
Speaker 3: I wanted to agree that I agree it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I think what I'm doing right now is my dream
Speaker 3: scenario able to help the community. In two sents, but
Speaker 3: getting back to one, you're right, you're at the age
Speaker 3: too right now where who cares? You're so young, like
Speaker 3: you go make your mistakes, go fail, like you don't
Speaker 3: have a family to take care of, Like this is
Speaker 3: the greatest time of your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, without question, because you're stepping into a workforce.
Speaker 2: You have a job.
Speaker 3: Fifty bucks a week is good, Like you'll figure it out,
Speaker 3: you'll make it work, right.
Speaker 2: True, So no, that's exactly right. It is the best.
Speaker 2: You don't have a family to worry about. You know. Also,
Speaker 2: you know when I go play poker or whatever, and
Speaker 2: I have the kids playing poker, and you know, they're
Speaker 2: hot shots and they're good. Actually you gamble, it's it
Speaker 2: says yeah, they say, yeah, this is what kind of
Speaker 2: you know? Well, this and stuff like that is are
Speaker 2: you married, you have kids? They say, no, you haven't gambled?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, this little stuff you're doing here, I
Speaker 2: was spinning a chamber of my gun in the party.
Speaker 2: You have a house to go to, Yeah, just what
Speaker 2: it is? Well, thanks everybody for listening. Welcome back, my
Speaker 2: first show in a week. I was out. I had
Speaker 2: a little surgery here and I'm allowed to come outside
Speaker 2: and play. So here I am. Thanks everybody for being
Speaker 2: concerned last week or the last few days. I'm okay
Speaker 2: so far. So here we go. A lot to talk about, right,
Speaker 2: a baseball team. You're closer to that than I am.
Speaker 2: Blake the Chip kind of works his magic at this
Speaker 2: time of year. Yeah, he kind of does really well,
Speaker 2: kind of slumps and then regroups, and that's been the
Speaker 2: case this year. Yeah. I mean, did you guys watch
Speaker 2: the championship game, Big twelve? I did not.
Speaker 3: I was impressive. They fought. I mean it was one nothing.
Speaker 3: Then Andrew hit a bomb in the nineth Indy and
Speaker 3: it tied up. We call those pumps, right, hit a
Speaker 3: pump in the ninth inning and tied up big, big,
Speaker 3: big hit, And then they secured it with another run
Speaker 3: in the next inning and came back or I think
Speaker 3: two innings after that. When I go twelve, there was
Speaker 3: ten was a ten yes in the next inning. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I did watch it, by the way. Just a phenomenal game, great,
Speaker 3: great show of grit and grind from that team. I
Speaker 3: think they can do some damage. I think that that
Speaker 3: bullpen looks a lot better than I thought it did
Speaker 3: the start of the season.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if I talked to you this,
Speaker 2: because I've talked to it with the guys all the time.
Speaker 2: I've done it for years now since Jay momentum one.
Speaker 2: Do you believe in it? And are we here with it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We've argued about this all the time. I believe in momentum.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's worked for me, like I've
Speaker 3: gone both ways.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I call it a run. So do they
Speaker 2: have momentum? And the team they're playing, do they have momentum? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying. My point is either
Speaker 2: you're good or you're not good, and you're gonna win
Speaker 2: that day because both teams, guess what has momentum or a.
Speaker 3: Moment Yeah, they're both stepping into the same kind of atmosphere, right,
Speaker 3: the same culture that they have.
Speaker 2: What's happened.
Speaker 3: But I just think the I think you've as talent
Speaker 3: is a little higher. It should be, it should be right,
Speaker 3: And I think that now that they're lining up somewhat healthy,
Speaker 3: I would say and argue that they can they have
Speaker 3: their people back. They've got their people back. Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: a watch party at the Monica.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: Ray text me yesterday Friday. Yeah it's one o'clock. It's
Speaker 3: a one o'clock Yeah, and he's like, let all the
Speaker 3: kids know. And I was like, I guess school is
Speaker 3: out right, So yeah, yeah, I make them. I might
Speaker 3: drop I hadn't be with Raoul ro and I went, no,
Speaker 3: I might do that just to go for any or
Speaker 3: too and then get here.
Speaker 2: Yeah let me know. Yeah you going to go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I might all be at my office, which is like,
Speaker 2: oh okay, yeah, okay, that might be. That may be
Speaker 2: have a little sandwich there or something. What do you
Speaker 2: guys think? I mean, what do you think about this
Speaker 2: you BA baseball team? I know we talked about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know enough. I don't know if that's why
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to pick your brain.
Speaker 6: Did you cover the team at all? I covered maybe
Speaker 6: three games, and they're very talented. They're never out of
Speaker 6: a game. Yeah, but do they show up for every game?
Speaker 6: Not necessarily? That's that's the thing.
Speaker 2: And I was gonna ask you. I don't know Chip
Speaker 2: very much. He's very good when he's on the show,
Speaker 2: and I know his history obviously, but he has this pattern, right,
Speaker 2: I guess we all have these patterns of what he's done.
Speaker 2: He's done well well enough to get to do to
Speaker 2: the postseason, the number of times, what is his magic sauce,
Speaker 2: and we all have blind spots.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you could go to those blinds. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I can only talk to my personal experience.
Speaker 3: Ship's a friend of mine. As you know, I've been
Speaker 3: very fortunate to both be on the field and off
Speaker 3: the field with him. He's not only been a mentor,
Speaker 3: but he's been a friend. He's he's he's who he is, right,
Speaker 3: So when you're having a conversation with Chip, it's never different.
Speaker 3: So from a players standpoint, I know what I'm getting right.
Speaker 3: I think when you get into the circumstance, he might
Speaker 3: need to he might need to find a different gear
Speaker 3: just to light a fire as needed where he's calm
Speaker 3: and collected.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, no question. In fact, I was
Speaker 2: talking to out coach today about other things and just
Speaker 2: the good coaches have this bite to them because they
Speaker 2: just have to have this bite. Sometimes coaches don't have
Speaker 2: that bite and you can tell that they're not going
Speaker 2: to be successful. You have to have that bite. No
Speaker 2: one to kick him in the ass and no one
Speaker 2: to hug them, and that gives you some they get,
Speaker 2: they get some respect that are playing hard for you
Speaker 2: because you have that bite for you know, they lout lute.
Speaker 2: They played out of respect for him, played hard for him.
Speaker 2: He was very good at what he does. But a
Speaker 2: lot of it was playing for your And I've been
Speaker 2: told this a thousand times, playing for your grandfather. And
Speaker 2: the last guy you want to disappoint in your life
Speaker 2: is your grandfather. Yeah, so you played your butt off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so for similar Kindle, right, I think Kindle and
Speaker 3: lut had I think at that time frame were very
Speaker 3: similar from a player, So it's a generational and then
Speaker 3: you move on to uh coach Stitt, same thing, same
Speaker 3: that same realm. And then you go to and Lopez
Speaker 3: had a different, different gear. Not a lot of people
Speaker 3: are gonna see it because I mean, it's it's Andy's.
Speaker 2: We talked about it because he's got that bite, and
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a he knows what to push.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I think Jay was a little
Speaker 3: bit similar. I also think that Jay was just able
Speaker 3: to out recruit a lot of people and get more
Speaker 3: talent and a smart baseball dude, smart smart am I
Speaker 3: going up the track. I think that he tried to
Speaker 3: play systems too I don't He's gone, so I don't
Speaker 3: even care what that's fine. I think he tried to
Speaker 3: play into systems too much and didn't give guys free will.
Speaker 3: You had some of the best athletes similar wea you
Speaker 3: talked about with Miller. Right, you've get some of the
Speaker 3: best athletes in the country. Let him meet Right, you
Speaker 3: get Bobby Dolback bunting with a man on second and
Speaker 3: the third inning.
Speaker 2: Of the World Series. What are we doing?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 9: Right? Uh?
Speaker 3: Where Chippers at? He's exactly the opposite, right, Like the
Speaker 3: best piece of advice I've ever got coaching came from
Speaker 3: Chipper when when we were this is a long time ago.
Speaker 3: We were on the field and I was trying to
Speaker 3: correct somebody's like just a basic stand. I was throwing BP.
Speaker 3: So it was my academy. He came out to help coach.
Speaker 3: So I would have him and like Tito and Jack
Speaker 3: Hall and George Arrius and Chilly.
Speaker 2: And A those guys would come out.
Speaker 3: I was just really fortunate and he would come out
Speaker 3: and he's like, he pulled me afterwards after b people
Speaker 3: to me, he goes, is that kid athletics, He's super athletic.
Speaker 3: He's like, stop trying to mechanically change him. Let him
Speaker 3: be athletic. Like he's going to figure out. And that's
Speaker 3: what I think he's doing now, right. But I think
Speaker 3: that you have to get in a circumstantance sometimes where
Speaker 3: you have to.
Speaker 2: Let them go. You got to let them go, but
Speaker 2: you also have to light a fire under their ass. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's the that's the part of it. That's
Speaker 2: part of it. Doing that in today's world is tough.
Speaker 2: My god, we had this quote. I had this conversation
Speaker 2: with Arizona Bowl yesterday. Right, I'm talking to bing Chulluk
Speaker 2: in his office and we're talking about because he's a
Speaker 2: big Michigan State guy, right, he went to Michigan State.
Speaker 2: He worked under Tom Izzo as a as a GA
Speaker 2: or as when he was going there, so he knows them.
Speaker 2: So we were talking about tom Izzo and we boasted
Speaker 2: the same thing. In this day and age, can you
Speaker 2: still have that kind of bite? Yes? I can. I'm
Speaker 2: listening to you.
Speaker 10: So I don't know if you can to be honest
Speaker 10: with you, if you can m f a guy that
Speaker 10: he understands that you care about his at the end
Speaker 10: of the day, you care about his success in life
Speaker 10: and winning and they have to do it to do
Speaker 10: win that game.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the young guy in this room. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and not that you're the example for the litmus test there,
Speaker 2: but does that help?
Speaker 6: It always helped me. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 6: when you ask me stuff like talking about nil, I'm
Speaker 6: like that last bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got through the old school, traditional way, and
Speaker 2: you gotta you're an older, an older hart, I'm an
Speaker 2: older soul, older soul.
Speaker 6: You can't do it anymore. Yeah, just just looking at
Speaker 6: some of the way, like my younger family members are
Speaker 6: brought up in coast or even parents, you can't. You
Speaker 6: can't have a bite anymore because the world is too fragile. Now,
Speaker 6: so then what do you You have to outprepare? Then
Speaker 6: that's what you have to do. You have to outprepare,
Speaker 6: and you prepare them in instinctively for those situations without
Speaker 6: them even knowing it, so they're just reacting at those points.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, you just have to do that. A lot
Speaker 2: of times. I mean, that's stuff I sent you yesterday though,
Speaker 2: that was fantastic, fantastic, And we'll talk about that at
Speaker 2: some of the point because it is today's today's and
Speaker 2: we talked about we wax poetic on little kids. But Chip, okay,
Speaker 2: So Chip will let them go, let them play, let
Speaker 2: them learn on their own, not on their own, but
Speaker 2: give them the chance to make mistakes. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And now he's I think, uh, you know, because
Speaker 3: my dad has season tickets and my uncle goes with
Speaker 3: him all the time, and then our close friends. I
Speaker 3: don't go to a lot of them. Just honestly, I
Speaker 3: don't go to a lot of college baseball games. It's
Speaker 3: not my cup of tea. But I won't support anything
Speaker 3: that Chip does. I think he gives them enough leniency
Speaker 3: to make mistakes early on, yeah, to figure it out right.
Speaker 3: And I think he's done a better job with that
Speaker 3: with the pitching staff where guys have to learn how
Speaker 3: to work out of trouble, and if you don't have
Speaker 3: that confidence when you get into it, as you progress
Speaker 3: during that season, that that the confidence's gone. Right, So
Speaker 3: you get a guy on second and third early in
Speaker 3: a game with less than two outs. There's a pretty
Speaker 3: good chance you're gonna make a mistake, right unless you
Speaker 3: know how to work.
Speaker 2: Out of it. So how much leeway do you give them? Okay,
Speaker 2: so you're you're in early in the season, he doesn't play,
Speaker 2: let him play, doesn't make mistakes, make bad decisions or whatever.
Speaker 2: Maybe they do, maybe they don't. At some point when
Speaker 2: you say, okay, you've had enough. Now what do you mean,
Speaker 2: like playoff time?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Now, oh not late in the season.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I think you you're in. They're in
Speaker 3: a position late in the season where their security get
Speaker 3: in the Big Twelve tournament as a fourth seed. I
Speaker 3: think it came down to the wire a little bit
Speaker 3: bit with them. But I mean, once you get into
Speaker 3: the tournament play it's it's you got to treat every
Speaker 3: game like it's do or die, like oh of course, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's when you talk about this And obviously I covered
Speaker 2: Loop for a number of times twenty five years, and
Speaker 2: he was always the flat line, Every game is the
Speaker 2: same everything, And I get that. I get that, and
Speaker 2: he was that guy. I'm sure his and I've never
Speaker 2: asked this about those those those pre game fiery things
Speaker 2: because he didn't have any But then you get to
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you get to the tournament and every game
Speaker 2: was the same, right, everything game And that's when the
Speaker 2: issues came in because well, he lost the number of
Speaker 2: first round game. Yeah, he lost the number of first
Speaker 2: round games, and you're thinking, how can he can't get
Speaker 2: these guys to play? Yeah, at this time of the year,
Speaker 2: And that was the question, and the answer was, I'm
Speaker 2: always this way. Yeah, it was this way. And of
Speaker 2: course you don't want to throw curves at the kids
Speaker 2: because they know, they know the magnitude of Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's a it's a fine line to walk because you're
Speaker 2: saying it right now, Steve.
Speaker 3: You don't want to do is you don't want you
Speaker 3: don't want the players to take it as that you
Speaker 3: you know, you're nervous, right, there's a nervous feeling to it.
Speaker 3: For the coach, you want to you want to make
Speaker 3: sure they understand that there's a sense of urgency. Right,
Speaker 3: So what's the difference between nervousness or a sense of urgency.
Speaker 3: And it's the fact if you're instilling confidence, but at
Speaker 3: the same time, like, hey, it's not who we're playing,
Speaker 3: it's how to beat them, right, like you're you're going
Speaker 3: out there. It doesn't matter the name on their jersey
Speaker 3: or anything. You're just going out there to kick the
Speaker 3: living crap out of the right right.
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Speaker 7: How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2: We're doing fine? Hey, Rot. You purposely to talk about
Speaker 2: the grand scheme of the high school sports scene for
Speaker 2: this year, but we were talking real quick. You're gona
Speaker 2: have to remind me of philosophies, maybe high school, maybe
Speaker 2: the philosophy of kids, because you've most of your stories
Speaker 2: are about the high school families and the kids. Where
Speaker 2: were we going with us? Just about the kids? Can
Speaker 2: they be yelled at things like that? The makeup of
Speaker 2: a young man? Yeah? Do the kids today take that
Speaker 2: bite like they did? Maybe our generation where the coaches
Speaker 2: are tough on them and they're okay with it? Are
Speaker 2: things have things changed?
Speaker 11: I think things have changed, and it's because of the parents.
Speaker 11: But if you have a coach.
Speaker 7: That's established and well respected, the.
Speaker 11: Kids are gonna fall in line.
Speaker 7: They're going to be respectful, and they're going to listen
Speaker 7: and learn and grow. Well, We've got a lot of situations,
Speaker 7: is a lot of coaching turnover. A lot of the
Speaker 7: old old guard have left and best in football, and
Speaker 7: it's created a lot of new new football coaches who
Speaker 7: are trying to get their feet wet and haven't established themselves.
Speaker 7: So I think that's where you run into some situations.
Speaker 7: But if you look at the established coaches that Tucson's
Speaker 7: had in every sport, uh uh. You know, people want their.
Speaker 11: Kids to play for them and and they.
Speaker 7: They realize that that's the best thing for them. So
Speaker 7: there are a lot of situations though, where that a
Speaker 7: lot of coaches aren't established, and we get into these
Speaker 7: situations where coaches are you know, you know, either fired
Speaker 7: or or they're let go right before the season or
Speaker 7: during the season. You got you got parents revolts, you know,
Speaker 7: complaining about the coach. And we saw that this year
Speaker 7: that you know, at one point is iron Ridge. Uh
Speaker 7: you know, it's you have you have some good and
Speaker 7: you have some bad, like in anything. And I think
Speaker 7: it's gotten more.
Speaker 11: I think it's since since our days.
Speaker 7: You know, when I covered high school sports right out
Speaker 7: off at Sunnyside and I was at the star. It's
Speaker 7: a lot different, and I think it's because of the parents,
Speaker 7: and it's because of the new age we're in, the
Speaker 7: social media and so forth. As far as entitlement with
Speaker 7: some kids and they're handling out now now we have
Speaker 7: handlers and things of that. Natures actually talk about bringing
Speaker 7: nil to high schools, which is just a crazy thing.
Speaker 2: Oh so, so let me give give me a scenario,
Speaker 2: because you've covered it most of your life here doing this. Uh,
Speaker 2: of the all the coaches, let's give you fifty and
Speaker 2: then that's a small sample size of the fifty. How
Speaker 2: many actually left coaching because of all this, of the
Speaker 2: things you talked about, Well, we.
Speaker 7: Just saw one Pat Nugent. We just saw he could
Speaker 7: coach another ten fifteen years. I mean he's not even
Speaker 7: sixty years old, and he cited burnout. He decided, you know,
Speaker 7: having to deal with you know, the parents more and
Speaker 7: more and have an answer to that, and he, uh,
Speaker 7: he just feels like he needs to step away. You've
Speaker 7: you've had him on your show as a co host
Speaker 7: and he's I.
Speaker 11: Mean, this guy he could coach another ten fifty years, but.
Speaker 7: He wants to get out. You know, why would you
Speaker 7: want to get out. I mean, you just want to
Speaker 7: stay championship. So, yeah, it does happen. It's happening today.
Speaker 11: We saw with other other coaches.
Speaker 7: To stepping down. Jorge Mendevie that at amphis he stepped
Speaker 7: out a lot for the same reasons. Plus it has
Speaker 7: to do with with the administration buy in and and
Speaker 7: support from the communities around the high schools. Some coaches
Speaker 7: feel like that's not the case, especially in USD from
Speaker 7: from the things I've heard and seen. So there's a
Speaker 7: lot of factors of all. But yeah, it is a
Speaker 7: case where coaches are not sticking it out like they
Speaker 7: have in the past because it's a different, you know,
Speaker 7: the different scenario that they have to coach under now,
Speaker 7: as I you know, said before, with some of the
Speaker 7: outside elements now becoming more involved in high school athletics.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're seeing it with Patt Newten, who is
Speaker 3: one of the best to do it in Tucson at
Speaker 3: both a high school level and the collegiate level. Right
Speaker 3: he was at Flyn Walls when I was there. But haave,
Speaker 3: I mean we're having this conversation. That's why I stepped
Speaker 3: away from coaching. I was just gonna say yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's I mean, I did it for eighteen years and
Speaker 3: I loved the youth aspect of development. Ave, you've been
Speaker 3: around the game so long on both every multiple sport.
Speaker 3: You can see it's just a different time frame where
Speaker 3: it's just constant dealing with parent.
Speaker 2: Could it return.
Speaker 7: You like what it was before?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I know it's a silly call,
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it should.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, listen, we're sitting here, these were the
Speaker 3: good they weren't the good old days because people were
Speaker 3: getting away with some really shady stuff during that time.
Speaker 3: You know, you're right, you have to find a merger
Speaker 3: between the two of your coach should be able to
Speaker 3: coach the way he wants to or but you should
Speaker 3: be held accountable sure as well. But I think that
Speaker 3: the one question that we always laughed about. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you were seeing Jave, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you ever seen that the Seinfeld episode where Seinfeld is
Speaker 3: doing stand up comedy and he's getting heckled in the crowd,
Speaker 3: and so the next day he shows up to the
Speaker 3: person's work and heckles that person right at work. Like,
Speaker 3: I feel like we've got to find a way to
Speaker 3: hold those parents accountable, like you shouldn't be. We did
Speaker 3: a system where you're not allowed to come.
Speaker 2: To the field.
Speaker 3: You have to drop your cut off, right, you can't
Speaker 3: be at the field, smart or suspension after that, like
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to be a game.
Speaker 2: I should to be the accountability. I suggested that when
Speaker 2: the kids were playing soccer, and because you I want,
Speaker 2: I went to watch you and support the kids. But
Speaker 2: there was a number of kids out there that they
Speaker 2: were you know, their parents were overzealous, right, And I suggested,
Speaker 2: you know, this is what you do. Do exactly what
Speaker 2: you do, drop them off, blah blah blah. If they
Speaker 2: want to see their kids. After a couple of mistakes
Speaker 2: of not being there, you get the tape. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is your kid playing, This is your kid playing soccer.
Speaker 2: This is how you'll see your sons or daughters playing soccer.
Speaker 2: Otherwise you can't do this. You'll watch them be a tape.
Speaker 2: Not allowed to come and watch any person.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's I don't know if I'm sure you saw it.
Speaker 7: Kevin McCabe, he stepped aside from his radio show. He's
Speaker 7: citing burnout and having to deal with a lot of
Speaker 7: these outside factors, you know, parents even complaining to him
Speaker 7: about something you might say on the air about a
Speaker 7: team or so and so forth. And the situation with
Speaker 7: the media is kind of changing too. Along with that.
Speaker 7: Because of social media, you're having people out at games.
Speaker 7: It's becoming saturated. I see it all the time because
Speaker 7: I'm out there with high school football games. You're standing
Speaker 7: among and we stand on the sidelines. We don't go
Speaker 7: and the we don't say in the press box because
Speaker 7: the press box is so a lot of them are antiquated,
Speaker 7: and they're they're you know, they're they're small, and plus
Speaker 7: when you're on the field, you're closer to the action
Speaker 7: and you feel like you're you know, you're you can
Speaker 7: get a better story that way. But things are becoming saturated.
Speaker 7: You're getting guys with a lot of like cameras, equipment,
Speaker 7: video equipment that are just starting up there their their
Speaker 7: thing on Instagram or what have you. There are some
Speaker 7: good ones. I'm not going to throw a blanket over
Speaker 7: all those guys that you know, they shouldn't be a game.
Speaker 7: There are some that actually work hard, work a lot
Speaker 7: of hours to get kids noticed that way. But there
Speaker 7: are others who go there to to take advantage of things,
Speaker 7: and you be a spectator on the sidelines.
Speaker 1: You know it.
Speaker 7: Imagine somebody hearing in the press box. It's basically what
Speaker 7: it is. So he doesn't he doesn't like that aspect
Speaker 7: too of what's going on. He feels like the AA
Speaker 7: isn't doing their their end of trying to keep things
Speaker 7: in line with a lot of things, or they're over
Speaker 7: zealous in other things, like the way they treat some
Speaker 7: of the media after the after the playoff games, like no,
Speaker 7: you can't do this, you can't talk the coach until
Speaker 7: we do the trophy presentation. You got to wait here,
Speaker 7: you got to do that. He just felt like it's
Speaker 7: it's a situation is a lot different than what he
Speaker 7: what he is accustomed to when you started doing more
Speaker 7: high school sports. And I've seen it too, and you know,
Speaker 7: we get we get messages every now and then, you.
Speaker 11: Know, instead of instead of like the constructive criticism or
Speaker 11: or like a you know, the right way of saying
Speaker 11: things to somebody, instead of saying, hey, my son did
Speaker 11: this in this game. I just wanted to point that
Speaker 11: out to you and and maybe maybe you guys were
Speaker 11: out about it or follow up on it. Instead, we
Speaker 11: get some like why are you writing about this kid
Speaker 11: and not my kid? And you guys don't know what
Speaker 11: you're talking about. You don't know how, you don't know anything.
Speaker 7: We get a lot of that kind of approach instead
Speaker 7: of the the you know, the the saying, you know,
Speaker 7: calm approach, where if parents did that, they would get
Speaker 7: a lot more out of it, their coverage, out of
Speaker 7: their their their kid instead of being so like in
Speaker 7: attack mode, and that that just that just blows me away,
Speaker 7: that that why would you be that way? Why why
Speaker 7: would you comment us like that when all we're doing
Speaker 7: is we're trying to get as much kids, notoriety as possible.
Speaker 7: We're not charging you anything, We're not you know, we're
Speaker 7: not covering one person more than the other, things like that.
Speaker 7: But we are seeing a lot more of that, and
Speaker 7: it's because of it's the parents and the coaches. The
Speaker 7: coaches are feeling it too or more than us because
Speaker 7: they talk to the parents every day. And I think
Speaker 7: that's why you see something like Pat NuGen stepping aside.
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's unfortunate, but that's what's happening.
Speaker 3: Do you see Hobby, Do you see Actually, I should
Speaker 3: ask this question because we have this we've we've had
Speaker 3: this conversation a lot. Where do you see high school
Speaker 3: athletics in the next three to five years?
Speaker 7: M three to five years. I think I think it's
Speaker 7: headed towards more of like the college model. We're going
Speaker 7: to have more and more, you know, as there's you know,
Speaker 7: you have the SEC and you have separations like that,
Speaker 7: You're going to see like the cell points and the
Speaker 7: other high level programs and seen its kind of separate
Speaker 7: themselves and it's be more of like an elite system.
Speaker 7: You're going to see more and more gravitate towards that.
Speaker 7: It's done that over the years, it's gotten more and
Speaker 7: more towards that. And you're going to see more players
Speaker 7: getting more opportunities as far as UH monetary value before
Speaker 7: they reach college, which is already in place in some states. So,
Speaker 7: you know, and there's good and bad to that. The
Speaker 7: good is that these kids are getting some kind of
Speaker 7: you know, they're getting a business. Local business is supporting
Speaker 7: them while they're either going to college or you know,
Speaker 7: they're about to go to college or something like that.
Speaker 7: But on the other hand, they feel they're going to
Speaker 7: it's going to increase the sense of entitlement, and I
Speaker 7: think it's going to be more and more where the
Speaker 7: old school coaches are not gonna are not going to
Speaker 7: stick around. So we're going to deal with a lot
Speaker 7: of the younger coaches, club coach type people that aren't
Speaker 7: bad people, but they're like the A. AAU type that
Speaker 7: are are all about the sport and not about the character,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So we're gonna see more
Speaker 7: and more of that, I think, which will have a
Speaker 7: negative impact.
Speaker 2: I mean it's going to.
Speaker 7: Totally go in the in the you know, down the pot. No,
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be I think I think
Speaker 7: high school athletics will still be great to cover, great
Speaker 7: to great to follow. They're gonna have some great individuals
Speaker 7: things like that, but it's gonna be different. It's already
Speaker 7: it's already getting different. Uh, you know, the feel of
Speaker 7: of just the overall landscape of the coaches, how the
Speaker 7: players feel more entitledment, how the parents feel like they
Speaker 7: should have more say of what they're what should happen
Speaker 7: to their kids. It's going to be more and more
Speaker 7: like that, I think.
Speaker 3: Have you with that being said, so if that does
Speaker 3: that changes the landscape a little bit, but could you
Speaker 3: see that also helping from a recruitment standpoint, And what
Speaker 3: I mean by that is, I mean you're around all
Speaker 3: different sports at the high school level. The weight of
Speaker 3: high school recruiting has kind of subsided. It's not really there.
Speaker 3: Everything's h The recruitment side is really on the club
Speaker 3: side and what they're doing in the off season and
Speaker 3: following them. Do you think that then if this does
Speaker 3: change like that in three to five years, do you
Speaker 3: think the recruiting comes back to the high school piece
Speaker 3: of it. And it does, it gives the high schools
Speaker 3: a little bit more credibility at the national level, then.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think you're going to see.
Speaker 11: We're you know, the recruiting.
Speaker 7: There was a point in time and not too longer
Speaker 7: where people were complaining about this, this school is recruiting
Speaker 7: these kids and so forth. I think you're going to
Speaker 7: see more more open work where kids parents could take
Speaker 7: their kids where they want to because of the because
Speaker 7: of the you know how program's established and so forth.
Speaker 7: I think you're going to you're gonna hear and less
Speaker 7: criticism about recruiting because the kids is going to be
Speaker 7: we're there they're going to be you know, they're gonna
Speaker 7: they're they're gonna wind up at a program where they
Speaker 7: should be or there if they feel like they should be.
Speaker 7: I think I think they're The recruiting aspect isn't gonna
Speaker 7: be as negative, but there will be. There will be
Speaker 7: the case where schools are going to be attracting athletes
Speaker 7: that normally would have went to a high school. They're
Speaker 7: going to be going to a different school. But that happens,
Speaker 7: that happens today, that happens, that's happened in the past.
Speaker 7: But I think it's going to happen more to where
Speaker 7: it's becoming more of like the the elite. Uh, there's
Speaker 7: an elite status of high schools and then it filters
Speaker 7: down to just you know, to where the common athlete
Speaker 7: will go to different different schools. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 7: sure if I answered your question, but I think I
Speaker 7: think the recruiting aspects will will not be as big
Speaker 7: of a topic because it's going to be understood of
Speaker 7: what we're where players are going.
Speaker 2: Okay, we got a couple of minutes, just real quick.
Speaker 2: One of my original questions I wanted to be how
Speaker 2: did the two soon teams and uh fair in the
Speaker 2: state level overall throughout the year. I know everyone you know,
Speaker 2: Phoenix is the bohemoth.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know Mike Mounin won the football went undefeated, Uh,
Speaker 7: second year in a row. That's happened. Cdio did it
Speaker 7: last year. So that's that's great. I mean, uh, that's
Speaker 7: that four A level that's been doing really well. You know,
Speaker 7: it's just I think that's something that is promising. The
Speaker 7: three A level.
Speaker 11: Pushers won the championship last year.
Speaker 7: Sabino did so. The three and four A levels are
Speaker 7: you know, Arizona's really two sons, really got a good
Speaker 7: strongholder because they've won the last two years and hardly
Speaker 7: lost any games. Of those teams that won championships, it's
Speaker 7: hard to remember all this stuff throughout those school year,
Speaker 7: but uh, you know, just recently sell Point won the
Speaker 7: baseball Uh, they're pretty much wired to watch or there
Speaker 7: were number one seed the whole the whole year, which
Speaker 7: doesn't happen usually. So they they you know, Danny Prebble
Speaker 7: and those guys, they did a great job and I
Speaker 7: think he believes that they're gonna have uh, you know,
Speaker 7: another good year next year. They're gonna they're gonna reload.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: That's that's the case right there at the Cell Point.
Speaker 7: They're gonna they're gonna be reloading every year with top
Speaker 7: talent C D O. Uh, they're gonna be reloading. They're
Speaker 7: gonna see a lot of reloading like that because you know,
Speaker 7: that's where the that's where they the players and families
Speaker 7: think that's that's where they're gonna they're gonna prosper the most.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be up to the other schools in the
Speaker 7: administrations in the school districts to kind of you know,
Speaker 7: raise the level of their their level to try to
Speaker 7: be competitive.
Speaker 2: And it can't.
Speaker 7: We can no longer have a wait and see type
Speaker 7: of attitude like we have. And I'm gonna be blunt
Speaker 7: as like t U s D.
Speaker 2: We can't.
Speaker 7: School districts have to be more proactive with facility and
Speaker 7: you know, making an enticing to the student athletes to
Speaker 7: go to those schools because otherwise you are gonna have
Speaker 7: an elite you know programs that are going to continue
Speaker 7: to be that way. But yet the Cell Point, just
Speaker 7: the softball team lost unfortunately in the championship game, ended
Speaker 7: the streak of six in a row cdeo with Amelia Struber.
Speaker 7: They came up short in the championship game, so it
Speaker 7: was a little bit more of a kind of a
Speaker 7: disappointment in softball. But those teams really went far. Empire
Speaker 7: one the softball championship. So you know in the three
Speaker 7: A level there there two sons one like eight in
Speaker 7: a row, almost ten ten years.
Speaker 2: In a row.
Speaker 7: So that you know, there's Tucson is really really good
Speaker 7: in spring sports and baseball and softball. Look at the
Speaker 7: u of a baseball team. Arizona does not win the
Speaker 7: Big Twelve without four guys from Southern Arizona. And you
Speaker 7: know Andrew K Mason White Rogue got his odd and
Speaker 7: Owen Cromkowski, those guys. It was because of those four
Speaker 7: guys that Arizona won the Big Twelve championship. And I
Speaker 7: don't think Arizona's really had that many from Southern Arizona
Speaker 7: be that significant of contributors. But I know I'm going
Speaker 7: off on a tangent here, but I thought that was
Speaker 7: really impressive the way those four guys really came through.
Speaker 2: Well, how have we got to go? Thanks so much
Speaker 2: for joining us today. If you well, t thanks you
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 7: Thank you guys.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, got a lot to catch up right now on
Speaker 6: Bricky News.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 6: And it's been a good Conference finals in my opinion.
Speaker 6: I know it's three one both ways, but they've been
Speaker 6: a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: I have some money with Chris obviously, But who's gonna
Speaker 2: watch Indian universitys Oklahoma City? Not many?
Speaker 3: But you said this, and I and watching these two series,
Speaker 3: and they're exciting teams to watch, right, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of young talent.
Speaker 2: I can get it.
Speaker 3: But Steve dar point that's probably NBA. I would argue
Speaker 3: NBA is probably worst case scenario for a championship.
Speaker 6: Right now, somewhere at T n T and Espana, Well,
Speaker 6: there should be a lot of viewers from Tucson for
Speaker 6: Indian reasons. Yeah, yeah, and they're they're both they're called
Speaker 6: Ben Mathrin and t J mcconmbey.
Speaker 3: Yeah they're playing. Oh yeah, absolutely part of India. But
Speaker 3: the market is not Tucson to worry about. Yeah, we're
Speaker 3: not going to not take Tucson.
Speaker 2: No, we'll see. They're both good teams. I really like
Speaker 2: the way that Indiana plays and Oklahoma stew if it's
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Indiana, Oklahoma City is gonna beat them, But
Speaker 2: Indiana's fun to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Oklahoma City is an MVP on the
Speaker 3: team right So for NBA should be a dream scenario.
Speaker 3: Be able to promote him in a new face maybe
Speaker 3: changing the card.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know you don't have Facebook, right, yeah? Smart?
Speaker 2: You smart man? Uh? And one I think I don't
Speaker 2: know if you do or not. Maybe. Yeah, you're too
Speaker 2: young to worry about. He's still on my Space.
Speaker 5: Going on.
Speaker 2: He's going on a TikTok TikToker dance in with us
Speaker 2: his relatives. So yes, A couple daears ago when I
Speaker 2: was watching The Sunday and obviously I like watching it
Speaker 2: because I have a little twenty bucks on it. And
Speaker 2: I'm amazed. I say this every year, how much of
Speaker 2: a shot making league it is, because it seems like
Speaker 2: every time they have a shot, it goes in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it just goes in. But again, if you were getting
Speaker 2: paid two point five million dollars to make a basket,
Speaker 2: guess what you're gonna end up doing. I don't know
Speaker 2: who's getting paid two point five million dollars. They're mostly
Speaker 2: getting paid twelve.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I was trying to make a point. But to
Speaker 2: your point right now, right, So if you're making that much,
Speaker 2: you better be damn good. You should be the best
Speaker 2: of your position in the world. And that's what they are. Ye, No,
Speaker 2: because they're fantastic and making shucks off. She's Steph Curry,
Speaker 2: but other teams.
Speaker 6: To even talk about just looking at centers now, and
Speaker 6: we we've talked about this since I think last about
Speaker 6: a year ago. This he's not made for the umars.
Speaker 11: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: You better, yeah, you better be able to handle the
Speaker 3: ball as the center. Sure, I mean that's that's why
Speaker 3: Henry he is the future. Yeah, I mean it's a
Speaker 3: positionless game. It's a position in sport at this point,
Speaker 3: all those yeah bangers and bruisers in there. Well, he
Speaker 3: developed his shot after after his call and maybe he
Speaker 3: didn't need it in his college days. But if you
Speaker 3: can develop that shot, well, towns towns now right, he
Speaker 3: can get from the logo the guys. Yeah, the guys consistently.
Speaker 3: He held him in the last couple of days ago. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we'll see.
Speaker 2: There's that.
Speaker 3: There's a baseball you've been paying at hockey on the
Speaker 3: other side, same thing. There's three one in both series.
Speaker 2: I'm not a hockey I don't know any better.
Speaker 6: I feel like there's a little bit of buzz with Edmonton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to get a Canada championship again. Yep. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been a while. M hmm, that's news to me.
Speaker 5: News.
Speaker 2: We're trying to make the fifty first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, Yeah, my Chicago Cubs are playing pretty well
Speaker 3: right now, so it might be I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Who's second because they talk about that, was it Milwaukee?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 2: Who's second in that league? Because there's the other teams
Speaker 2: are playing fair as well, but Chicago is playing now
Speaker 2: they're not because someone said yesterday they had Milwaukee, and
Speaker 2: who's Cincinnati might be second right now?
Speaker 3: No, it would be Milwaukee, it would be my guess central. Yeah,
Speaker 3: who's in l Central? Who's second?
Speaker 6: St? Louis Cardinals?
Speaker 2: St? Louis? Yeah, yeah, but they're hot's the game difference,
Speaker 2: game backs? I think there are ten games? What are they?
Speaker 3: Maybe that's too much. What's Saint Louis right now? Over
Speaker 3: five hundred two games?
Speaker 6: Uh seven?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so they're four games up, five games up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I haven't been. Yeah, that's a terrible baseball fan.
Speaker 3: I am no, No, I just were invested into the
Speaker 3: AL Central because every single team in the AL Central
Speaker 3: I think is legit, and El Central I think I
Speaker 3: hate Saint Louis, so I try not to watch those games.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why. And none of those guys are on
Speaker 2: my fantasy baseball. I can tell you nothing about anything
Speaker 2: about that. I just don't do you turn Do you
Speaker 2: turn baseball off when it's on?
Speaker 3: Like I know I have a problem when I walk
Speaker 3: into like we went to Roadies, you know the roadhouse,
Speaker 3: which is super it's really nice. But yeah, we walked
Speaker 3: in it was like lacrosse on every table or TV,
Speaker 3: and I was like, you the Cubs are playing, Like
Speaker 3: why are we watching?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't know better, but it's a West
Speaker 2: Coast thing, like we don't have a clubs. That's the
Speaker 2: funny thing. But people who probably work there don't know
Speaker 2: any better.
Speaker 3: You don't put Okay, you're going to your top three
Speaker 3: right if the NFL is not you're going to NBA
Speaker 3: or MLB, And you're going to NBA right now because
Speaker 3: the playoffs right if the if the NBA is not on,
Speaker 3: then you're going to MLB, maybe NHL.
Speaker 2: At that point, why lacrosse. Well, that's the funny thing.
Speaker 2: Part of the people there don't know any better. It's
Speaker 2: kind of the people you hired. Do you know what's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just got a job. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: I mean maybe that's right. I mean I've had to
Speaker 3: I had to ask them to put the Masters on
Speaker 3: the other week.
Speaker 5: What are we?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Exactly what?
Speaker 3: But and this isn't a knock on lacrosse. I've never played.
Speaker 3: It's probably a phenomenal where it's great.
Speaker 2: But we I mean, do you know I.
Speaker 3: Didn't know the I didn't even know the sport existed
Speaker 3: until I was in high school. Maybe like I didn't know, right,
Speaker 3: So yeah, anyway, sorry, I didn't mean no, no, no, But.
Speaker 2: That's the prefect simple. It's kind of like time and place.
Speaker 2: So I know your clientele. Yeah, maybe it's Hey, they're
Speaker 2: the favorites of the crowd. You know, every not every
Speaker 2: but the beers beer bars have the favorite teams, right, No,
Speaker 2: this is the Cowboys place, this is the Steelers place. Okay,
Speaker 2: at least you know that that's who they are. You
Speaker 2: can go some of the players.
Speaker 3: You're gonna go there to either watch the game or
Speaker 3: watch your rival play. Okay, let me ask you this Ross,
Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna ask you. Have you ever watched
Speaker 3: a what is it a match? A full lacrosse match?
Speaker 2: Never once? I have you have? Not dating somebody that
Speaker 2: you had to know.
Speaker 6: It was early in the morning. It was like Creighton
Speaker 6: and Saint John's. There's nothing else on it. It was
Speaker 6: like the summertime thing was on. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just kind of got stuck on it. It was
Speaker 6: it was it was funny. I was so they were
Speaker 6: going back and forth. Yeah, here's the funny thing.
Speaker 2: I watched softball and I really like watched it now
Speaker 2: that I was injured. Yeah, I watched softball. I watched
Speaker 2: a lot of it the last couple of weeks, and
Speaker 2: I will love watching it covered with Candrea. But it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: The women are fantastic, and you just get into it
Speaker 2: because and it's a quick game. Yeah, it's a quick game.
Speaker 2: There's one that was on a station and then they
Speaker 2: moved that to to ping pong because they went back
Speaker 2: to the regular stay And I think I used to play.
Speaker 2: He used to be very decent. And those dudes are
Speaker 2: fantastic those and then you watch if you play, and
Speaker 2: you think, what am I watching this for? And they're
Speaker 2: just beating the crap out of the ball and moving
Speaker 2: back and all that, and that's I gotta watch softball.
Speaker 3: I think the great thing about college softball is that
Speaker 3: there's it's it's it's the best of the best in
Speaker 3: the in the world playing in that stage. Right, there's
Speaker 3: no professional league that they're leaving to. Well, there is
Speaker 3: no there's the one in Chicago, right. The all sports
Speaker 3: are all something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I.
Speaker 3: Mean you're seeing very good, yeah, the top level of
Speaker 3: the sport and that in that regard, and it's just
Speaker 3: a it's a blast. I mean I would argue at
Speaker 3: times that softball is better to watch in baseball, right,
Speaker 3: So it's a I think it competitively, I would rather
Speaker 3: watch college softball than I would college baseball. Maybe I'm
Speaker 3: crazy for seeing that, but it's truth. What's the purpose
Speaker 3: that because you've been there, done that, and it's not
Speaker 3: a college baseball guy, I'm just not. I just I
Speaker 3: you don't like I don't like what. I don't like
Speaker 3: the metal bat. I don't like the metal bat. I
Speaker 3: don't like the like over over arching cheerleading going on,
Speaker 3: and the coaches like are always I'm so I'm so
Speaker 3: fired up.
Speaker 2: I just moment you're wrong, it's like, okay, it gets old,
Speaker 2: Like I get it. Did you want softball at all?
Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks so so to me, and
Speaker 2: this have been the case forever, the cheering and the
Speaker 2: press ball cheering in the dugout and the dancing and nothing.
Speaker 2: I said, I wonder how it would be for college basketball.
Speaker 2: You know, you do the dances, and I think that's
Speaker 2: kind of over the over the top because you're seeing
Speaker 2: it right, and I guess you can do that to mean,
Speaker 2: it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: Could you show up and watch a college basketball game
Speaker 3: if the whole game they were cheering the whole game
Speaker 3: they had different cheers they were doing. But it works
Speaker 3: in softball, it's it's something that works, right, So yeah, anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're baseball a little bit too. Yeah, if you have anyway,
Speaker 3: So no lacrosse. You've never watched a full across one.
Speaker 3: You've watched one match one from start to finish. So
Speaker 3: we just know not to go to Roadies now because
Speaker 3: I'm out.
Speaker 2: I'm just Joe.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: That place was awesome because if you're listening you need
Speaker 2: a sponsor from Roadies, you should absolutely go. That should
Speaker 2: be a place. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We we end up watching the movie Friendship in the
Speaker 3: screening room and there's it's like five seats, but it's
Speaker 3: a movie theater.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. Why there Roadhouse? Roadhouse and then we go
Speaker 2: to road Did you watch The Amateur?
Speaker 11: Have you seen The Amateur?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. Fantastic, great movie.
Speaker 3: I watched Warfare, which is a phenomenal movie and it's
Speaker 3: written by this It's it's about the Afghanistan. It's a
Speaker 3: seal team getting intel, but it's written by the seal team.
Speaker 2: But it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's two and a half hours of my life
Speaker 3: that I insighted. Would you guys talked about a movie
Speaker 3: last week? About something like Thunderbolts. Yeah, Thunderbolts and New
Speaker 3: The New Avengers. That was really good too. Anyway, stay
Speaker 3: on topic really quick because I want to get this.
Speaker 3: I want to the one sport that you wish you
Speaker 3: could watch more of.
Speaker 2: That you don't? What is it? Wow? I watched them
Speaker 2: exactly enough. I don't have one.
Speaker 6: Maybe f one for me. Yeah, that's getting like a
Speaker 6: lot more popular, especially after.
Speaker 3: The Netflix documentary or document series Women's seven on seven
Speaker 3: Rugby after the Olympics last summer.
Speaker 2: Did you guys watch any of that?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 3: Oh, phenomenal like busting heads open like it was awesome,
Speaker 3: Like I would rather watch women's soccer. And I'm a
Speaker 3: huge soccer guy, right, I would rather watch women's soccer
Speaker 3: because every time they get tripped, they don't just on
Speaker 3: the ground crying, they're bleeding. Like Team Germany had a
Speaker 3: girl that was literally bleeding from her head and would
Speaker 3: refuse to come off the pitch. I thought you might
Speaker 3: say bikini football or something. No, I don't like, I
Speaker 3: want to see like that's fine. I remember the thirteen
Speaker 3: year old Blake would have said yes to that. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: At my age, I would Yeah, I would rather watch
Speaker 3: something that's a little bit more.
Speaker 2: My answer is that, but is it still Is it
Speaker 2: still around? I don't know, but I've I've seen I've
Speaker 2: seen some highlights. Oh man, yeah, history later